November 26, 2025 • 17 mins
Doug riffs on doing his coaching job. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Dan Hurley makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug gottl.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What up Doug Gottlieb Show. But but got ya?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
So I think the question people ask most is what's
it really really like? And I will tell you that
you know now that I'm like a year into it
(00:41):
and we want a couple of games down there. Oh gosh,
It's just there's so much pressure involved because no matter
how much you want to block out noise and block
out any negativity and doubt whatever, it's really really hard
to do, even blocking out your yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Do you doubt yourself? But what's it really like? Whoo?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
It's wild how many things there are that are variables
in when you travel with a big group. I'll tell
you the biggest experience. So this is the in the
Modus podcast. Appreciate you downloading it and listen to the
radio show. But I just all I can tell you
is how much of a job is it?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Both these jobs?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So when you're covering sports, for as long as we
cover sports, you have to kind of constantly be covering.
It's one of the reasons I was basically off for
five days, but it wasn't that was not planned. It
was because our travel was so kind of wonky, and
then the game times ended up matching up with the
times of the show. We couldn't make it work. But
all that's part of all the variables within this. But
(01:54):
being a sports host, I think you have to be
as invested and constantly reading stories and talking to people,
and so when you go to a basketball tournament, you
actually do get caught up on because basketball people are
sports people. We watched basketball, we watched sports. I probably
watched more sports while in the US Virgin Islands than
(02:14):
I do even when I'm stateside, one because I wasn't
hosting the show, but and two because of you're an
hour ahead of East Coast time, and we never left
properties so we didn't have outside of practicing games, so
we had plenty of time. But here's the example of
how much there is in terms of decision making when
(02:35):
you're a head coach at a high major a mid
major level. Right, So you know, we had to plan
out the travel times and the Virgin Islands is a
tough place to get to from green Bay, Wisconsin because
Green Bay's airport, which is great, it flies NonStop to
Chicago to Minneapolis to Detroit. I want to say a
(02:56):
couple of other places, but those places don't NonStop to
the Virgin Islands. And if you can avoid a double stop,
you avoided the double stop. You go twenty minutes down
the road. There's Appleton, which flies to Charlotte that goes
to Virgin Allens to Dallas that goes to Virgin Islands,
and to Atlanta that goes to Virginalwns. So we were
supposed to take a flight from Appleton to Atlanta to
(03:20):
the Virgin Islands last Wednesday morning. Tuesday night, I get
a text at like nine o'clock and all the guys
are gonna have to get up at like two, be
at the bus at three because our flight was at
five twenty three, and everybody knows I like to cut
it close, but you can't cut it close when you
go with a group of thirty people. So nine o'clock
(03:42):
we find out our first flight is pushed back four hours,
so there's no way we're gonna catch the connection. But
we got to get down to the Virgin Islands pretty soon,
because you got a day to practice and then a
day then you play. So we get to we get
to the airport the next day at like eight for
a nine forty five flight. The good news is guys
got to sleep till seven, get to the bus, get
(04:04):
there whatever. So we get there plenty of time. But
I actually could only take fifteen people on the first flight.
The other fifteen people had to come either the next
day or even two days later for some ansilary people.
So if you're gonna fifteen people, sounds like enough for
a basketball team, But you gotta have a coaching staff,
you have to have a trainer, gotta have me. So
(04:26):
we had five guys, you know, three of them are
red shirting, but five guys who didn't get to go
day one. One of them played in the second and
third game. Then when you get then while you're flying
to Atlanta and you're stuck in Atlanta, you didn't know
you'd be a second line. You gotta find a place
to practice. Thankfully, the Atlanta Hawks gave us a practice
(04:48):
facility for a day. We had a great practice. Then
you gotta find a hotel. We got that.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Then you gotta find where you're gonna eat.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I texted all my friends in Atlanta where I was,
and the guys from Turner gave me a place to eat.
Then you fly into the virginility to decide. Okay, do
we practice right away? Do we wait by practicing right away?
I missed the radio show. There was no touring of
the island on that and other stuff. But that's just
in twenty four hours. But anyway, we're back. We're stateside.
(05:16):
Snow is falling in Green Bay. I got a suntan,
we got a couple of wins. Let's talk some sports.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Let's find out who what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug, Jamar Chase.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I just want to give you chronologically what happened. Jamar
Chase spit in the face of Jalen Ramsey. Jamar Chase
got suspended one game, his appeal held up, and it
took him eight days to issue an apology written by
his agent that he obviously did not mean because he
(06:06):
answered questions from reporters yesterday.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
When you look back.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
At kind of everything that happened in that Steelers game.
What's probably now you gotta lot to talk to think about.
What's the thing you probably regret the most after how
everything went from before beginning.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
After messing over my name. Like I said, how.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Tough was that to see that kind of being everywhere,
the way that you were talked about, discussed and that
way was that was that?
Speaker 6 (06:27):
The toughest part about it is social media. Everybody got
to opening. Everybody gonna say something, But it is what
it is at the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
I keep my points on it. I watch it, I
see who say stuff, and it is what it is.
So I don't really care.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Something to keep in the back of your mind before.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
No think opponents are gonna try to bait you into
more of that moving forward.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
They could.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
They already do it, They've been doing it. Ain't nothing
new at the end of the day. I mean, like
I said, it's a lot stuff that you're gonna allow
and stuff that you're not gonna allow, sublimit everything.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
So his apology, if you read it, is all really
like legaliese and agents speak about how there is no
excuse and how he apologizes to everybody, and that he
takes full ownership over it, and then he's confront of
our reporters, he seemingly is not doesn't regret a single
(07:19):
thing he did, and then he actually justifies spitting on
somebody because there are only certain things that you could take.
There's a threshold. Once you reach a certain threshold, for me,
then it's justifiable to spit in somebody's face. I'm not
going to get into why this is annoying to me personally.
Who drafted him first overall in a fantasy league that
(07:41):
I can't afford, and he missed last week. I'm not
going to get into that. That would be personal. I
just think that it's annoying that you want us to
believe that issued apology on Monday and then you contradict
it on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, I'm gonna I agree with you on all parts, Jason,
on all parts. The only part I'm I'm trying to
find if this is what he thinks is you know
that he wasn't I wasn't intentionally spitting on him, just
in the process of talking Ish a big, a big
(08:17):
loogie came out or whatever. I again, that's the only thing,
but he hasn't said that, right like that would have
been the one thing that you would if you would.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Have said, hey, here's what really happened. But he's not,
so he's not.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And I'm sure Jayalen Ramsey probably went to places you're
not supposed to go, even in trash talk. But it's
not that hard to go, hey, I lost my cool.
I would guess that all of you have lost your cool.
Maybe haven't maybe maybe not to that level before, but
it's in a football game. You can't throw a punch
(08:52):
and you know whatever. But I again, I I don't
understand why it's so hard to go, hey, my bad
because he's doing the yeah, well you should hear what
he said to me, right, that's really what he's saying.
He's basically saying, yeah, I shouldn't have done it, but
it was justified.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Everything he said in that comment completely undid the handwritten
apology by his agent on Monday. He's a total moral
and to all kids that watch, everyone's got a threshold.
I guess he's telling all the kids that are his fans,
there's a threshold. Somebody talks enough shit they deserve to
be spit on.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Oh this is a good one. There's so much, so
many layers to this one. So I tell people all
the time, I love consuming political talk and political theater.
I like watching it. I like both sides. I don't
have a rooting interest. I do like the way people
talk about politic and I remember a year ago when
(10:02):
I said to my sister, who is a leftist, like
old hippie, pot smoking liberal, you should watch Joe Rogan
with Donald Trump for this very for this reason, because
you're going to hear things that are not in your algorithm,
and you're gonna understand where the other side is coming from.
So if he's voted in again, you'll understand why. And
(10:25):
she's like, fuck that, I'm not listening to Trump, and
I said, Okay, maybe if you listen to both of
these sides, you'll you'll hate them less because you'll least
understand that there's there's you know, they're coming from somewhere
with something. And then you hear Kendrick Perkins yesterday on
a podcast and you realize there is a whole segment
(10:45):
of people who feel a certain way about Shadeur that
you never even it never hits my algorithm. And Kendrick
Perkins says, all black people on the face of the
earth are rooting for shador Sanders, are no exceptions. And
he put it this way.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Shadua Sanders is the most powerful black man since two
thousand and nine. You know it happened in two thousand
and nine, that's when President Obama got elected in office.
He's the most powerful black man since two thousand and nine.
You said you were sitting there watching the game in
(11:25):
your house.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And what you did?
Speaker 8 (11:27):
You ran, You ran with the TV. Right, what was
you doing, dB? You was chained like a motherfucker when
Shadua Sanders is on the field. And when I say powerful, powerful,
because it's two sides of it, right, think about it. Okay,
you got the black community. He bringing the whole black
community together. I ain't ran across one black person that
(11:50):
then said one bad thing about should do it. We
won't even guess what not one because he has the balance.
He has the balance of that. I'm arrogant, but I'm
humble too. And he having fun with the ship. And
on top of that, y'all want me to say it
ain't y'all want me to.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Feel, and I ain't gonna have Yeah, he talking ship.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
He's the most powerful black man in sports, no other,
no other, matter of fact, fuck black man.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
He the most powerful player in sports. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I don't really know what to do with that one, Jason,
what what do I do? I mean, I do I listen,
I have last year we're we're uh, you'll love this.
We were in Dayton in between games we played Evansville
then played Ohio State if you remember, and we actually
stayed in practice Dayton and we were watching Colorado play
(12:42):
and uh, several of my assistants are black, and they
were like, yeah, I'm rooting. I'm a Shador guy, I'm
a I'm a prime guy. I was like, oh, because
he's black. They're like yeah. I was like, there's other
black quarterbacks, Like yeah, well I love Dion and so
I mean, look, Kendrick Perkins. I do actually think he's
right in that he's super popular in the black community,
(13:05):
and I do think that it's fucking asinine to act
like he's somebody because of his act and what he's
done to be championed. But that's what that's what we've
that's what black culture has has decided. They've decided that
that there's there's a racial component to shoudure Sanders fucking
(13:31):
up his own draft status and like that, it's that
the world is racist. And again, there's nothing you can
do other than he's either gonna succeed or fail. I
succeed or fail. And look, we've he's appeared in two
NFL games. The first game he looked awful. Last game
he looked decent, you know, and for a rookie, he
(13:51):
looked good. And so we'll just see. I just I
don't know what to do with it, because again, like
I know what you're thinking, is that, like that's one
of the dumbest things I ever heard, but I actually
know it to be mostly he's not the most powerful guy.
It's like it's fucking stupid, but Kendrick Perkins makes it,
(14:11):
makes a living saying outland as shit that is absolutely
racially biased and just fucking dumb or whatever. I don't
think I but I do think in this case in
terms of because he doesn't have.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
A feel for the whole world or whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
But I mean it, Jay, like you may think it's crazy,
but I would say black community is more behind him
then then Lamar Jackson, then Pat Mahomes that I mean,
pick the quarterback, Pick the black quarterback. It's like it's crazy,
like they legitimately think Kevin Stefanski doesn't want to succeed.
(14:50):
The whole thing is fucking beyond fucking stupid. It's why
I'm so glad I had a couple of days off
just because like I don't even know what to do
with it, like what, but Jay, I mean it, He's
right about the black community like acting like like this
is their guy, and it's it's white people who are
(15:12):
holding back Shador Sanders because they're scared of the black
guy with with money when he just he was just
a fucking arrogant prick who wasn't that good and kept
running backwards instead of standing in the pocket delivering the football.
They've obviously worked with him. He's improved some, like we'll see.
It's also really interesting that there's no empathy at all
for Dylan Gabriel, who was you know, he had a
(15:35):
really good game when he started.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
He's had some bad games when he started.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Then he gets concussion, loses his spot, doesn't get to
take it back right, And he's not white, so I
don't even know what to do with it. But I
can tell you that, as as annoying as it is,
it's a real thing that the black community somehow has
embraced Schador Sanders and believes that that.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
He's their guy.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
He's their guy, and if he doesn't succeed, or if
he doesn't get a chited, it's because he's black.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I don't really know what else to tell you.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Who's more annoying that conundrum there that you just pointed out,
or Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I would say Jamar Chase is monnoy because Jamar Chase
is beloved as a football player. He did something stupid
in the height of battle. It's not that big a
fucking deal. Just apologize profusely, be done with it, move on,
and everybody will get back to cheering for Jamar Chase.
And because you can't see how easy it is to
(16:38):
just say I was wrong, why.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Are we doing this?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
I do because we can. All right, this combines a
couple of things. You know, Dan Hurley, and you know Thanksgiving,
and you know, because we can, this is a great one.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Great Thanksgiving to everyone out there. We're gonna celebrate our
Thanksgiving on Wednesday as a team. We're gonna eat the
what's in the turkey, Bobby, No, no, no, no, what
makes people sleepy? Trip to Fan. So we're not gonna
eat the fucking trip to Fan on when on Thursday
and and be sluggish as shit on Friday. So we're
(17:22):
gonna eat the trip to Fan, the turkey and everything
on Wednesday, so that all the trip to Fan is
out of our system by the time we get to MSG.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Everybody talks about trip to Fan and it's like, because
you get you get sleepy. Also because you eat a
bunch of food and you're and you're sitting around. But
and a lot of guys don't eat. We can have Well,
we had a turkey discussion on radio. I like this
little short snippet of a turkey covers why can we
do it? Because we can't. That's it for the in
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Speaker 2 (17:56):
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All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug gottl.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What up Doug Gottlieb Show. But but got ya?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
So I think the question people ask most is what's
it really really like? And I will tell you that
you know now that I'm like a year into it
(00:41):
and we want a couple of games down there. Oh gosh,
It's just there's so much pressure involved because no matter
how much you want to block out noise and block
out any negativity and doubt whatever, it's really really hard
to do, even blocking out your yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Do you doubt yourself? But what's it really like? Whoo?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
It's wild how many things there are that are variables
in when you travel with a big group. I'll tell
you the biggest experience. So this is the in the
Modus podcast. Appreciate you downloading it and listen to the
radio show. But I just all I can tell you
is how much of a job is it?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Both these jobs?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
So when you're covering sports, for as long as we
cover sports, you have to kind of constantly be covering.
It's one of the reasons I was basically off for
five days, but it wasn't that was not planned. It
was because our travel was so kind of wonky, and
then the game times ended up matching up with the
times of the show. We couldn't make it work. But
all that's part of all the variables within this. But
(01:54):
being a sports host, I think you have to be
as invested and constantly reading stories and talking to people,
and so when you go to a basketball tournament, you
actually do get caught up on because basketball people are
sports people. We watched basketball, we watched sports. I probably
watched more sports while in the US Virgin Islands than
(02:14):
I do even when I'm stateside, one because I wasn't
hosting the show, but and two because of you're an
hour ahead of East Coast time, and we never left
properties so we didn't have outside of practicing games, so
we had plenty of time. But here's the example of
how much there is in terms of decision making when
(02:35):
you're a head coach at a high major a mid
major level. Right, So you know, we had to plan
out the travel times and the Virgin Islands is a
tough place to get to from green Bay, Wisconsin because
Green Bay's airport, which is great, it flies NonStop to
Chicago to Minneapolis to Detroit. I want to say a
(02:56):
couple of other places, but those places don't NonStop to
the Virgin Islands. And if you can avoid a double stop,
you avoided the double stop. You go twenty minutes down
the road. There's Appleton, which flies to Charlotte that goes
to Virgin Allens to Dallas that goes to Virgin Islands,
and to Atlanta that goes to Virginalwns. So we were
supposed to take a flight from Appleton to Atlanta to
(03:20):
the Virgin Islands last Wednesday morning. Tuesday night, I get
a text at like nine o'clock and all the guys
are gonna have to get up at like two, be
at the bus at three because our flight was at
five twenty three, and everybody knows I like to cut
it close, but you can't cut it close when you
go with a group of thirty people. So nine o'clock
(03:42):
we find out our first flight is pushed back four hours,
so there's no way we're gonna catch the connection. But
we got to get down to the Virgin Islands pretty soon,
because you got a day to practice and then a
day then you play. So we get to we get
to the airport the next day at like eight for
a nine forty five flight. The good news is guys
got to sleep till seven, get to the bus, get
(04:04):
there whatever. So we get there plenty of time. But
I actually could only take fifteen people on the first flight.
The other fifteen people had to come either the next
day or even two days later for some ansilary people.
So if you're gonna fifteen people, sounds like enough for
a basketball team, But you gotta have a coaching staff,
you have to have a trainer, gotta have me. So
(04:26):
we had five guys, you know, three of them are
red shirting, but five guys who didn't get to go
day one. One of them played in the second and
third game. Then when you get then while you're flying
to Atlanta and you're stuck in Atlanta, you didn't know
you'd be a second line. You gotta find a place
to practice. Thankfully, the Atlanta Hawks gave us a practice
(04:48):
facility for a day. We had a great practice. Then
you gotta find a hotel. We got that.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Then you gotta find where you're gonna eat.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I texted all my friends in Atlanta where I was,
and the guys from Turner gave me a place to eat.
Then you fly into the virginility to decide. Okay, do
we practice right away? Do we wait by practicing right away?
I missed the radio show. There was no touring of
the island on that and other stuff. But that's just
in twenty four hours. But anyway, we're back. We're stateside.
(05:16):
Snow is falling in Green Bay. I got a suntan,
we got a couple of wins. Let's talk some sports.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Let's find out who what is annoying Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug, Jamar Chase.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I just want to give you chronologically what happened. Jamar
Chase spit in the face of Jalen Ramsey. Jamar Chase
got suspended one game, his appeal held up, and it
took him eight days to issue an apology written by
his agent that he obviously did not mean because he
(06:06):
answered questions from reporters yesterday.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
When you look back.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
At kind of everything that happened in that Steelers game.
What's probably now you gotta lot to talk to think about.
What's the thing you probably regret the most after how
everything went from before beginning.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
After messing over my name. Like I said, how.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Tough was that to see that kind of being everywhere,
the way that you were talked about, discussed and that
way was that was that?
Speaker 6 (06:27):
The toughest part about it is social media. Everybody got
to opening. Everybody gonna say something, But it is what
it is at the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
I keep my points on it. I watch it, I
see who say stuff, and it is what it is.
So I don't really care.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Something to keep in the back of your mind before.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
No think opponents are gonna try to bait you into
more of that moving forward.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
They could.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
They already do it, They've been doing it. Ain't nothing
new at the end of the day. I mean, like
I said, it's a lot stuff that you're gonna allow
and stuff that you're not gonna allow, sublimit everything.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
So his apology, if you read it, is all really
like legaliese and agents speak about how there is no
excuse and how he apologizes to everybody, and that he
takes full ownership over it, and then he's confront of
our reporters, he seemingly is not doesn't regret a single
(07:19):
thing he did, and then he actually justifies spitting on
somebody because there are only certain things that you could take.
There's a threshold. Once you reach a certain threshold, for me,
then it's justifiable to spit in somebody's face. I'm not
going to get into why this is annoying to me personally.
Who drafted him first overall in a fantasy league that
(07:41):
I can't afford, and he missed last week. I'm not
going to get into that. That would be personal. I
just think that it's annoying that you want us to
believe that issued apology on Monday and then you contradict
it on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, I'm gonna I agree with you on all parts, Jason,
on all parts. The only part I'm I'm trying to
find if this is what he thinks is you know
that he wasn't I wasn't intentionally spitting on him, just
in the process of talking Ish a big, a big
(08:17):
loogie came out or whatever. I again, that's the only thing,
but he hasn't said that, right like that would have
been the one thing that you would if you would.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Have said, hey, here's what really happened. But he's not,
so he's not.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And I'm sure Jayalen Ramsey probably went to places you're
not supposed to go, even in trash talk. But it's
not that hard to go, hey, I lost my cool.
I would guess that all of you have lost your cool.
Maybe haven't maybe maybe not to that level before, but
it's in a football game. You can't throw a punch
(08:52):
and you know whatever. But I again, I I don't
understand why it's so hard to go, hey, my bad
because he's doing the yeah, well you should hear what
he said to me, right, that's really what he's saying.
He's basically saying, yeah, I shouldn't have done it, but
it was justified.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Everything he said in that comment completely undid the handwritten
apology by his agent on Monday. He's a total moral
and to all kids that watch, everyone's got a threshold.
I guess he's telling all the kids that are his fans,
there's a threshold. Somebody talks enough shit they deserve to
be spit on.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Be sure to catch live editions of the Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Oh this is a good one. There's so much, so
many layers to this one. So I tell people all
the time, I love consuming political talk and political theater.
I like watching it. I like both sides. I don't
have a rooting interest. I do like the way people
talk about politic and I remember a year ago when
(10:02):
I said to my sister, who is a leftist, like
old hippie, pot smoking liberal, you should watch Joe Rogan
with Donald Trump for this very for this reason, because
you're going to hear things that are not in your algorithm,
and you're gonna understand where the other side is coming from.
So if he's voted in again, you'll understand why. And
(10:25):
she's like, fuck that, I'm not listening to Trump, and
I said, Okay, maybe if you listen to both of
these sides, you'll you'll hate them less because you'll least
understand that there's there's you know, they're coming from somewhere
with something. And then you hear Kendrick Perkins yesterday on
a podcast and you realize there is a whole segment
(10:45):
of people who feel a certain way about Shadeur that
you never even it never hits my algorithm. And Kendrick
Perkins says, all black people on the face of the
earth are rooting for shador Sanders, are no exceptions. And
he put it this way.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Shadua Sanders is the most powerful black man since two
thousand and nine. You know it happened in two thousand
and nine, that's when President Obama got elected in office.
He's the most powerful black man since two thousand and nine.
You said you were sitting there watching the game in
(11:25):
your house.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And what you did?
Speaker 8 (11:27):
You ran, You ran with the TV. Right, what was
you doing, dB? You was chained like a motherfucker when
Shadua Sanders is on the field. And when I say powerful, powerful,
because it's two sides of it, right, think about it. Okay,
you got the black community. He bringing the whole black
community together. I ain't ran across one black person that
(11:50):
then said one bad thing about should do it. We
won't even guess what not one because he has the balance.
He has the balance of that. I'm arrogant, but I'm
humble too. And he having fun with the ship. And
on top of that, y'all want me to say it
ain't y'all want me to.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Feel, and I ain't gonna have Yeah, he talking ship.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
He's the most powerful black man in sports, no other,
no other, matter of fact, fuck black man.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
He the most powerful player in sports. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I don't really know what to do with that one, Jason,
what what do I do? I mean, I do I listen,
I have last year we're we're uh, you'll love this.
We were in Dayton in between games we played Evansville
then played Ohio State if you remember, and we actually
stayed in practice Dayton and we were watching Colorado play
(12:42):
and uh, several of my assistants are black, and they
were like, yeah, I'm rooting. I'm a Shador guy, I'm
a I'm a prime guy. I was like, oh, because
he's black. They're like yeah. I was like, there's other
black quarterbacks, Like yeah, well I love Dion and so
I mean, look, Kendrick Perkins. I do actually think he's
right in that he's super popular in the black community,
(13:05):
and I do think that it's fucking asinine to act
like he's somebody because of his act and what he's
done to be championed. But that's what that's what we've
that's what black culture has has decided. They've decided that
that there's there's a racial component to shoudure Sanders fucking
(13:31):
up his own draft status and like that, it's that
the world is racist. And again, there's nothing you can
do other than he's either gonna succeed or fail. I
succeed or fail. And look, we've he's appeared in two
NFL games. The first game he looked awful. Last game
he looked decent, you know, and for a rookie, he
(13:51):
looked good. And so we'll just see. I just I
don't know what to do with it, because again, like
I know what you're thinking, is that, like that's one
of the dumbest things I ever heard, but I actually
know it to be mostly he's not the most powerful guy.
It's like it's fucking stupid, but Kendrick Perkins makes it,
(14:11):
makes a living saying outland as shit that is absolutely
racially biased and just fucking dumb or whatever. I don't
think I but I do think in this case in
terms of because he doesn't have.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
A feel for the whole world or whatever.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
But I mean it, Jay, like you may think it's crazy,
but I would say black community is more behind him
then then Lamar Jackson, then Pat Mahomes that I mean,
pick the quarterback, Pick the black quarterback. It's like it's crazy,
like they legitimately think Kevin Stefanski doesn't want to succeed.
(14:50):
The whole thing is fucking beyond fucking stupid. It's why
I'm so glad I had a couple of days off
just because like I don't even know what to do
with it, like what, but Jay, I mean it, He's
right about the black community like acting like like this
is their guy, and it's it's white people who are
(15:12):
holding back Shador Sanders because they're scared of the black
guy with with money when he just he was just
a fucking arrogant prick who wasn't that good and kept
running backwards instead of standing in the pocket delivering the football.
They've obviously worked with him. He's improved some, like we'll see.
It's also really interesting that there's no empathy at all
for Dylan Gabriel, who was you know, he had a
(15:35):
really good game when he started.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
He's had some bad games when he started.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Then he gets concussion, loses his spot, doesn't get to
take it back right, And he's not white, so I
don't even know what to do with it. But I
can tell you that, as as annoying as it is,
it's a real thing that the black community somehow has
embraced Schador Sanders and believes that that.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
He's their guy.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
He's their guy, and if he doesn't succeed, or if
he doesn't get a chited, it's because he's black.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I don't really know what else to tell you.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Who's more annoying that conundrum there that you just pointed out,
or Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I would say Jamar Chase is monnoy because Jamar Chase
is beloved as a football player. He did something stupid
in the height of battle. It's not that big a
fucking deal. Just apologize profusely, be done with it, move on,
and everybody will get back to cheering for Jamar Chase.
And because you can't see how easy it is to
(16:38):
just say I was wrong, why.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Are we doing this?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
I do because we can. All right, this combines a
couple of things. You know, Dan Hurley, and you know Thanksgiving,
and you know, because we can, this is a great one.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Great Thanksgiving to everyone out there. We're gonna celebrate our
Thanksgiving on Wednesday as a team. We're gonna eat the
what's in the turkey, Bobby, No, no, no, no, what
makes people sleepy? Trip to Fan. So we're not gonna
eat the fucking trip to Fan on when on Thursday
and and be sluggish as shit on Friday. So we're
(17:22):
gonna eat the trip to Fan, the turkey and everything
on Wednesday, so that all the trip to Fan is
out of our system by the time we get to MSG.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Everybody talks about trip to Fan and it's like, because
you get you get sleepy. Also because you eat a
bunch of food and you're and you're sitting around. But
and a lot of guys don't eat. We can have Well,
we had a turkey discussion on radio. I like this
little short snippet of a turkey covers why can we
do it? Because we can't. That's it for the in
the Modust podcast. Check out the radio show every day
three to five to Pacific Fox Port Tradio.
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