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December 4, 2025 • 41 mins

Doug riffs on an interesting record set recently by a talented man. Doug reacts to Brady Quinn's take on Lane Kiffin. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Maxx Crosby makes today's installment of "Because We Can".

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottly Show. Heres in
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
I heart radio app All right, we're gonna go down
a little rabbit hole here. Well, we'll talk about sports.
You know how this pot works.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
At some point, Jason is going to have an issue
with somebody, gen Z, I'm gonna say something that about
sports that will draw your attention, and Sam will probably
wax poetic about something a little bit longer than we
had kind of a cording off time for him. But yeah,
that's this pot. That's the pot is Okay. So I

(00:47):
wake up and I do I check my phone probably
way too often, but the first thing in the morning
and there was a video that I sent to the
guys and I I'm just fascinated by it.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
The video is of a new world record for longest.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Air biscuit.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Sure flats its air biscuit.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Forty second long fart fart and now, and Jason made
the really smart comment, hey do we need it? Like,
can't you just say forty second fart?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
We can? And of course you can pull it up
on your own social media if you want. But here's
how my brain works, and Jay, I'm kind of you know,
like your brain works differently than other people. Sam, yours
works differently than other people. Like Sam's already wants to
talk about the science of that sort of flatulence.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
For me, it's how do you had you know you
had a special gift? Right, like the guy who sets
the world record. At some point somebody has to go
like that literally is the longest one I've ever heard
in my life, ever, ever, that I've ever heard in
my life, And then like, what's the science behind it?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Is it what you eat? Is it holding it in?

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Like?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Is this family proud? Do you go to your family members?

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Do you go to your mom and your dad and go, hey, look,
I've discovered that I'm great at something, And they're like,
what is it?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Is it the electric guitar?

Speaker 6 (02:29):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Mom, you know they already know you're not good at basketball.
If you're good at basketball, you look like you're good
at basketball. If you're good at football, you look like
you're good at football.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Right. If you're good at baseball, Okay, maybe maybe we
would know.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
That you're good at baseball because you can look like
at every guy, although generally you know you're playing baseball
all the time. You could be hiding in plain sight.
If you have that sort of ability, how do you know?
Who do you tell? And at what point did you go?
I should really check out the world record book and
see if I can break that. And then what's the
training life? What's the training?

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Like Jason?

Speaker 4 (03:04):
When you see this and the last part is, and
I mean this, when you don't find farts funny, you
got to readjust something in your life, because.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
They're still funny.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Not when they're done in your face, not when somebody
you know, like the old or somebody goes does it
on their hand and then they put their hand in
front of your nose. All the other little things that
people have done that aren't funny, But just the sound
of a fart is funny. Jace D When do you
think he knew I could be great at this? I

(03:36):
could be great because I always like basketball. I don't
look like a basketball player. And it was a little
bit of a pipe dream for a long time, and
then I grew and it wasn't until really, maybe my
summer after my sophomore year, we're like, oh, you can
be pretty good at this thing. Might get a division
on scholarship again. I just I wonder all these other

(03:57):
things about somebody who's a now a world record hold.

Speaker 6 (04:01):
I wonder, like, which was the poor Schleepp who drew
the shortest straw and had to do the postgame interview.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
UH, And you walk into the locker room, You're like,
what is that smell?

Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's Jimmy. Jimmy's that smell.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
I like farts. I think they're I think they're funny,
but you laid out examples when they're not funny, and
then I don't like intentional stuff like this. I remember
Howard Stern. He would have these long farterers fart on
Q and they would they would do a song and
then have the fart, and I never liked that. So

(04:44):
maybe I have a certain aversion to farting on C
if you can.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
I had an assistant coach.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
I will not say which one, but I do have
a couple older assistants. So maybe that's the reason why.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
In host game of one of our wins, closed the
door and it felt like there was there was a
little thrust behind the door being closed, and there was
the sound of a fart. That's always a hard one,
Like did you and like we all looked around, but
we didn't because he was older. We didn't want to ask, right,
because if an older guy farts and he didn't mean

(05:20):
the fart and he didn't know he farts, that's that's
a pretty disarming thing, right, That's.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Like, was that me? That's how you know you're old,
isn't it?

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, farest fart escapes and you're oblivious to it.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Correct, Not only does it happen when you're not expecting it,
but you don't actually know it and everybody else does
and it happens and you still don't know it was you.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
It's like the point of your life where you're starting
to you're like incontinence becomes an issue, you're starting to
lea control of your bodily faculties.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yes so, but but but here's the thing that can
occur some people. What happens when you're in your forties
or fifties, that could occur in your seventies.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
So here's how that's how you people.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
It happens to people when they're in yoga. They might
you know, lean up or whatever, and then they let
one rip. You know, you just but those people know, well,
I don't know, there's people.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'm talking about people who don't know oh.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Like like like as you like, I don't know, you're
in yoga, you fart, You're like, yeah, yeah, you knew
that you were just stretching in a weird way and
it came out as an accident. But then they're yeah,
older people who just they don't even know it came out.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Okay, Jason, here's a question, since we both do find
it funny, what do you do when one sneaks out
on you and you're on an airplane and you know,
you kind of gambled and you didn't lose in terms of,
you know, a fart turned into a poop, but you
gambled when like you just couldn't hold it anymore, a
little bit snuck out and it smelled.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
How do you play it?

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Do you play it off like it's not bothering you?
Do you play it off like you look around? Do
you play it off by looking at the person next
to you?

Speaker 2 (06:50):
How do you play it off?

Speaker 6 (06:53):
Maybe I would have just I would have like had
to go through that intense multiple choice. Uh, twenty years ago.
I just don't care anymore.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
You just don't care.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
I'm at that point in my life where when I
do things, I just it's basically like the world just
has to deal with my thing.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I'm at that point, Sam.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
I think if you accidentally let out your fart on
an airplane, you just just like let it go, Let
the rest of it go, Do not look around, Just
stare out the window and wait for the uh, the
pain and suffering to dissipate in the air. That's the
best you can do. I will say this. Jason made
it clear based on his little his Howard Stern comment

(07:33):
that if he was picking entertainment for the evening, he
would go to the fart improv over farts on Broadway.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
A good point. It's a good point.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
The fart musical, Well, the fart musical is where you're
you've you've produced him.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, it's too planning.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
He wants to go.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
He wants the farting to be improvised. He wants it
to be all natural, organic, improvised. I will say this
about that, the guy who set the record there, as
you get older and maybe you know you don't get
enough fiber every day, you do have to worry about
the occasional shart. So that's like it's like you're.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
That's called gambling and losing. Well that's my brother always
told me. That's called gambling.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, it's gambling and losing. Go ahead. I was just
gonna say that that it's a part of like you know,
it's you know, guys out on the field and maybe
you know he ate you know some Campbell's chunky soup
before the game and too much running and he's gonna vomit.
Like it's kind of a it's kind of an occupational hazard.
So I don't know how this I think this guy
it all comes down for him. It comes down to

(08:28):
like sphincter training, like it's it's it's a it's controlling
the gas release so that you're in your the duration
is stretched out as much as it's possible. I don't
know how you trained for that. I don't know how
you hone that skill. It's impressive, but also like we're
at the point now where Guinness Book's Guinness Book of
World records are just like the most abstract records. Like

(08:50):
I saw two guys doing as many fist bumps as
they could in like a minute, and it was just
the weirdest thing to look at, Like how did this
come about?

Speaker 2 (08:58):
This requires some amount of skill though.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Oh yeah, for sure. No, it really goes.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
There's like an art like kind of a skill to it.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
I mean, I mean, your whole your poop shoot ain't
isn't supposed to be you know, honed in this way.
It's just supposed to be for you know, excreting gas
and waste. This guy has turned it into like a
musical instrument. It is pretty impressive, and you think about it.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Very impressive.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
I mean I stayed up at night for at least
I don't know, thirty minutes thinking about all the different
elements of it, Like myu's impressive, and then like can
you make a can you make a living doing this?
It's like the Joey Chestnut thing, only different right where
it's this weird kind of abstract subculture that exists that
you don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
It's even more on the fringe, Doug. It's even more
in the fringe than even competitive eating. I mean, they're
kind of related. If you think about it, you just.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
Gave You just gave fodder to your haters on Twitter,
because now they have this to play back if I
publish it, If you lose your first league game tonight
instead of watching film, Yeah, you were spending thirty minutes
thinking about farts.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Fairy listen, it's a it's a it's a fair critique. Gay.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
I think factor in that.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
What factor in it was that I was I've stayed up.
I mean, like, we watched more film than anybody ever.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
You got to take a break at some point and
just watch.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Actually, yeah, I was a nice to I do the
I It's like you don't want to give in to them,
but like at some point you want to go, like, yeah,
last night I had the multi view up with a
couple of basketball games of our teams in our league.
I'm watching what's called synergy. Synergy you can break down
like every play of every team you play, and I
always do it the night before a game. The fart
thing was a couple of days ago, and.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
It's still, guys, it's still no.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
I mean I wanted to talk about little bit.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Noah, Yeah, but no, you want to talk about it.
I get it, and I want a little bit.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
I mean, I kind of think it's more interesting than
me talking about Cowboys Lions stunt like we did in
the radio show. Not the Cowboys lines isn't interesting, But
everybody's talking about cowboys lines.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
How many people saw that video, like, you.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Know, it's a gas questions, it's a gas I have.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
I have the same I have the same question. I
just I always wonder how people discovered it's Scott. Was
Scott fan Fount? Now was Josh?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Do you guys remember Josh Elliott? Oh, Josh Elliott?

Speaker 6 (11:13):
Oh? Yeah, career that there should be a documentary on
that guy's career.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
On his career. I'd love to know what Josh is
doing now.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
But Josh was a was a friend when we were
at ESPN together, and he would talk about Michael Phelps
as the like Michael Phelps is like six six sixty
seven and he kind of has a weird athletic body, right,
super long torso not long arms, but he's he's a
he's generally a good athlete, but you know, most parents
would stick him into being a tight ender or play

(11:42):
being basketball player, which he's not. He discovered like the
one sport his body was kind of made for, and
because he has a little bit of a different personality
and that he's a uh an introvert that he could
throw on his earbuds and go swimming for hours and
hours and hours, and that would be fine. The point

(12:02):
is that he discovered something he's great at. Turns out
he's better than anybody who's ever done it. So too
has this gentleman. And I call him a gentleman because
you have to be a gentleman to be able to
to do.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
What he does. Who set a world record for longest ripstorm.
It's impressive.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
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Speaker 2 (12:28):
Let's get to what the Fox Says and now every
day of this time.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
In the Bonus Podcast to play for your previous portion
of a Fox Sports Radio Fox Sports One show, here's
Dan Patrick talking about Giannis and the Bucks.

Speaker 7 (12:42):
There's been a lot of talk about where Giannis is
going to go. I think he turns thirty one tomorrow
or the next day. You know, when you look at
a franchise and you think you got it set up,
you think you did it right, and you know, I
can give you credit for boldness, but the league is
too deep in, too competitive to sit still and just say, oh,

(13:02):
we got draft picks and we're gonna grow aggression cuts
both ways. When it works, you get to hang banners.
When it doesn't, it's a disaster Milwaukee with the Dame
Lillard big swing and miss that was supposed to extend
a championship window. Instead the Bucks under five hundred. Dame
Lillard's gone, and now Jannis reportedly asking out how about

(13:25):
the Clippers? They spent years flipping picks, prospects, and you
know they wanted to have a veteran super team. They're
six and sixteen, no first round pick on the horizon,
and a harsh reminder what happens when that bill finally
comes due.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Yeah, it's it's really hard when you go all in.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
And it doesn't work. Then it's like, okay, do we
go all in again? What do we do?

Speaker 4 (13:53):
I just yesterday was a traumatic day if you're a
Milwaukee Bucks fan. Right, Like, first you figure out that
there's a discussion about being traded, which means he's ultimately
that's gonna happen. And then he hurts his calf, which
of course freaks everybody out because you think caf automatically
means achilles, and you start to figure factor in, Wow,
we got to figure out what's next? What's life without

(14:16):
Giannis like and with the injury, will he have the
same value on the open market. But it's probably hard
in the short term. But I do think there's plenty
of smart Milwaukee Bucks fans are like ay, end of
the day, we did win a championship. It was an
incredible closeout game for Giannis in that championship.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
He's a great dude.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
He's given us the better part of his career. If
he moves on now, if we handle it right, it
can trigger the next run. It's just going to take
a minute to get there. I think that's a reasonable
way of looking at it. And I think that because
the Bucks won a championship, there won't be nearly the
bitterness there will be with other exits from other franchises.

(15:01):
Here's Brady Quinn talking about the aftermath of the Lane
kiffn exit from ole miss and reporting this week that
the school has a different version of the departure story
than Kiffin has told the media.

Speaker 8 (15:11):
Keith Carter did take a stance if you're not gonna
be here, you can't coach here. So there was that. Now,
what the lie was is that the players once he
announced he was going to LSU wanted him to coach
in the playoff. That was the lie. I don't know
that every player felt that way. Maybe there was some
that wanted him to. Maybe there's some who are indifferent.

(15:33):
I mean, it's gonna be interesting after the playoffs and
after the season whenever it ends for Old miss, how
many join him at LSU. But by the way, there's
multiple coaches who fall in this category. You know, if
Duke beats Uva, the door opens up for James Madison
to get into the College Football Playoff. Bob Chesney is

(15:53):
now gonna be the head coach at UCLA. He's gonna
be still allowed to coach jam You you know, I
already pinted out pictures too about John summerl who's going
to Florida. But at Slaine. Right now, they win the AAC,
they'll probably be the highest ranked group of sixteen, and
by the way, they'll get in over Duke because they
beat them head to head. So if you start going
through the scenarios, there's a good chance there's other coaches

(16:16):
who have decided to coach somewhere else that are being
allowed to potentially coach their teams, not just in the
conference championship. Weekend, but also into the playoff.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
I mean, look, there's plenty of coaches that are coaching
their teams. Eric Morris is coaching North Texas even though
he's headed to Oklahoma State. It can be done. I
think this is a lot of this is grand standing
by people. I know that we're blaming Lane Kiffn, but
people were openly approaching lank Kiven about the job during
his season as well. And I don't doubt that there

(16:48):
are some players who probably once they knew he was leaving,
didn't want him to coach.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
I don't know if that's all the players. I probably
think it's not.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
And it is curious that Ole Miss isn't allowing him
to coach, but they are allowing Charlie Weiss Junior to
be the offensive coordinator even though he's gonna leave and
go with Lane Kiffen. All of that stuff just means
there's a bunch of drama here and end of the day,
I mean, you talk about a complete resurrection of his career,
that's what Lane Kiffin has done. What does he do

(17:21):
at LSU, what's left behind? How much big a drop
off of their's old miss? I do think that for
one game. There may be a spike there, there may
be a bump there, because now Charlie Weiss gets the call,
plays without worrying about repercussions, without worrying about what Lane
kiffn wants, And maybe the players play harder thinking that
they are under soldier, undervalued because he's getting the new gig.

(17:44):
But I think for three games they'll miss lane Kiffin.
Here's Colin Cowherd talking about the Lions and why they're
not as good on offense this season.

Speaker 9 (17:53):
Everybody's telling me it's injuries, or it's the Frank Ragnow retirement,
or it's Jared GoF. You want to know why Detroit's
not as good. They lost Ben Johnson, the offensive coordinator.
Now he's the coach of the Bears, and the Bears
are looking down at the Lions. That's it. It's almost impossible.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
It's not hard.

Speaker 9 (18:13):
It's really impossible to replace brilliance. I remember Nike two
thousand and four. Phil Knight steps down as CEO Nike,
one of one, a powerhouse, immediately starts losing market share
to Adidas. Here comes Phil, he comes back. We all
know the story of Steve Jobs left Apple. Apple was

(18:36):
a powerhouse. They begged to have him back ten years later.
It's hard to replace excellent people. I think Ben Johnson's different.
I mean, what a shock. Suddenly the Bears are as
good as any team in the league running the football.
They weren't last year, and suddenly now the Lions are
horrible on third down? How with that offensive line? How

(18:56):
would Jamir Gibbs with a veteran quarterback. How they're good
at tight end, wide receiver? How because they lost Ben Johnson.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Well, the secret to sustaining success, okay, he is having
guys who can immediately ascend to whatever that next position
is in coaching, because obviously Dan Campbell had incredible success.
About replacing those guys is hard, But the same thing
happened in Philadelphia and eventually they got it right. I

(19:28):
do think Ben is a big time play caller and
an excellent offensive coordinator. But then he's gonna have the
same challenges. Right, if he comes in and he's been
as successful as he's been, and somebody's gonna come and
poach his guys. When they poach his guys, then he's
got to have a replacement for whomever he loses, and
so on and so forth.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
That's what the Fox says say.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 2 (20:01):
Let's find out who are What's annoying Jason Stewart.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
And now it's your annoying.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
Hey, Doug. The Deshaun Watson thing. Obviously, I think I've
been more interested in most in this story. But remember
Jimmy Haslam back in April made this very curious, like
seemingly declaration of finality about Deshaun Watson. This was him

(20:35):
quoted in the local paper. We took a big swing
and miss with DeShawn. We thought he had the we
thought we had the quarterback, we didn't, and gave up
a lot of draft picks to get him. So we've
got to dig ourselves out of that hole. Why is
the news cycle telling us that Deshaun Watson is practicing

(20:56):
with the Browns? How do you recover from an April
state from the person that signs your checks that we
made a swing and a miss and we need to
dig ourselves out of that hole. The skeptic would be like, well,
they're trying to retain his trade value. The word out
of camp is that he's been an amazing mentor for

(21:18):
Shador Sanders. I guess we could believe what they're telling
us at face value, But which one's true. Was it
a huge swing and a miss we got to dig
it out of the hole, or is he practicing he's
been a great mentor and he'll eventually play for the Browns.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
You don't think both can be true?

Speaker 6 (21:36):
I do think so. The more I talk more I
talked that through, I think that you're telling me that
Haslin thinks it was a swing in the miss. He'll
never play for the Browns again. And now they're gonna
tell everybody he's practicing, he could be traded and he's
a great mentor for Shudur.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah again, I would just you, you've been doing this
long enough to know this to be true. I would
never take what anybody releases a statement to the public
as factual in terms of what's actually going on inside
of a inside of a locker room or inside of
an organization, Right, Like, what is the point of saying
like this guy keeps showing up because he has to,

(22:16):
and we're pretending like he's gonna play because he because
we have to.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
I you know, you know what I'm saying. I get it.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
He's probably he's not the mentor that you want for anybody.
On the other hand, he is under contract. It is
all guaranteed. You might as well get something out of it.
And they're just trying to put some pr out there.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
Yeah, it's I think it's interesting and I'm wondering what
the what the market is. I'm wondering what the market
is for him. Oh right the way, by the way,
this just came through. And when you said it, I laughed.
I just didn't. I don't get it. I don't you
think that it's an It's a seamless and obvious choice.

(22:59):
But Russell Wilson is going to be a guest commentator
I think on CBS this weekend. You're the one who
said it will probably do TV. I said his personality
is like a fucking uh like a like a wet newspaper,
and why would anyone want to put them on TV?

(23:20):
I guess you were right on this one, and I
guess CBS would be the landing spot. They don't, of
course for dynamic people over there. Anyways.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
No, they got Matt Ryan and they got JJ Watt, Right,
Matt Ryan is a great dude, super smart, and JJ
Watt is Captain America. Both of those guys are super safe. Okay,
CBS operate here. I'm just I've worked for everybody, right,
so I believe I know how this works. CBS likes

(23:49):
the biggest name possible, and they think you're good if
nobody calls to complain.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
That's how they did.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
That's how they've always determined whether that because they they
put extra effort into the presentation of graphics and cameras
and how it looks.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
They're the Tiffany Network. Okay. There Honestly, Brady fits.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Way more at CBS than he does at Fox, way
more at CBS in that of everything's in a suit,
everything's cleaning crisp, it's all about Madison Avenue. So yeah,
I mean I kind of saw that one coming. Russell
Wilson will say absolutely nothing interesting and they'll love him
and they'll have a job whenever he wants.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
So this one is interesting to me because when Travis
Kelsey Taylor Swift became a thing, I went the way
of this skeptic and said, there's no way that this
could be an actual relationship. A loving relationship. Thought it
was some kind of pr stone whatever the hell was,
and then I was proven wrong. I thought I thought

(24:57):
they had fallen in love. I actually bought that when
she went on their podcast. They seem to have a
genuine connection on the podcast. But then something came out
today that makes me question it all again. Whoa Travis
Kelsey said this about the relationship.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
You claim that you and your wife haven't gotten a
fight in ten years. That's right, argue lying.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
No, I'm not lying, Travis, ask you the same questions.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Well, it's only been two and a half years, and
you're right, I haven't gotten an argument to all right,
never once?

Speaker 5 (25:34):
Honestly, you know, neither of us are going to win
the argument, So why get in it?

Speaker 2 (25:37):
There? There you go, that's a smart man right there.

Speaker 8 (25:40):
What's the secret just not just staying out of the
argument all together?

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Dude, I'm sixty four years old, and what am I
going to argue about it? At this point?

Speaker 4 (25:48):
You know?

Speaker 5 (25:48):
I'm like, yeah, you know, I met this incredible woman
that you know is you know, she's beautiful and smart,
and she stands for all the most important thing is
that I believe in in the world and I can't
believe how lucky I am. So what am I gonna
fight about? You know?

Speaker 2 (26:05):
I like it's a great answer.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Damn, that's a good one.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Too late to do it. Yeah, you can use that
if you want.

Speaker 6 (26:10):
I'm just I'm just taking notes this whole time, big guy.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
You don't even know exactly.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
So I think one of two things are true here.
He's lying, or they have a very superficial relationship. They
don't have a deep intimacy. They haven't invested in each
other as purported as we thought that. Maybe everything that

(26:40):
they have is everything we see. It's a public relationship,
which goes back to my original skepticism, because I just
don't believe that any healthy relationship is void of strife,
void of arguments. If you are not passionate enough to
get into alter case verbally you could do it respectfully,

(27:04):
then you just don't have enough invested in the relationship.
It doesn't matter as much to either of you. And
maybe this thing is surface level. So which one is it?
You think they have actually argued or they.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Have I think they have actually argued.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
I think that there was a tongue in cheek there
in when he said we haven't had an argument whatever.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
But I would also.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Tell you that there is one dynamic to the and
this is not what George Colney.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
This is more.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
With with Travis Kelce. The one other piece of it
that I don't know if you're giving credit to, is
that is that when you're in a long distance relationship,
like it's a waste of time to argue, right, just

(27:53):
because you end up the times you're together, you're like,
we're not together enough to argue, you argue, You end
up arguing when you're together all the time, So that
that would be that's that's my thought. Now I got
to but we never freaking argued until like all of
a sudden it got bad when I was in my
my marriage. But that that's my read on it, is

(28:19):
that that they're not together enough and that there have
been whatever arguments. He's just like wave white flagged it
because you know that that's what he's saying it. I've
white flagged it because it doesn't matter enough, Like I'm
I know I'm not going to win it, and she
has hand in the relationship.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
So I actually believe.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
My point is I actually believe what she's saying, what
he's saying, go ahead, there, Sammy.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
I think that money plays a big role in this too.
I saw a really hilarious comment where is like someone said,
you know, it's it's kind of easy not to argue
with your your significant other when your collective net worth
is one point sixty seven billion and her sided it
is one point six billion, and she likes you in bed,

(29:05):
she's all into you, like things are good you. Often
you'll see people arguing, like couples arguing for a couple
of reasons. Maybe they don't have a lot of money.
They're stressed out, so they're arguing about money. They're arguing
about life because just money is just the lack of
money is stressing them out.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
What people argue about, they argue about money and about kids,
sometimes about like trust right trust, trust.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Issues if if you violate that that that trust.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
But you argue about money and about kids, and probably
about your job, like you don't like your job, Well,
she has an unbelievable job. He has an unbelievable job.
They both have ridiculous amounts of money, neither of them
have kids, and they don't live together, so not together
all the time. The only thing that could cause an
argument is if he did something that she specifically said, Hey,

(29:48):
I really don't like you doing that.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Let's just say.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
And I do think that, and I do think that
the amount of attention that that relationship yet means he's
got to kind of be on the straight and narrow, right.
It's not like he can have a little side piece
going on, because everybody would know and he'd be outed
in a heartbeat, and then she'd record and then she'd
record an album all about it.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
And then in terms of like George and Amal Clooney
both have a lot of money. He's older, he's sixty four,
she's forty seven. I think that, Yeah, he's like, I
don't what's the point of arguing with anything. Maybe he's
at a point where he's just like at peace with
a lot of things. Maybe that age gap, there's a
dynamic there where like they're not the same age. They're
not young people full of hormones like are you know,
like you'll see like young couples who will be really

(30:33):
into each other and then they're just like they're they're hormonal,
they're just sort of volatile. This is a different kind
of relationship. She's in her late forties, he's in his sixties,
And of course I think money when it comes to
your kids, your job, your financial situation. Money can it's
not it's the root of all evil. We you know,
we can say, but it soothes a lot of things
in life.

Speaker 6 (30:53):
Yeah, you guys are talking about like surface triggers. Most
of the arguments I've had with my signet, significant other
or are much less tangible than money. Kids. You're talking
about like the absence of being present, of a kind
of distractiveness, not much attention mentally and emotionally to the relationship.

(31:16):
These are things that people that have a passionate investment
in a relationship argue about. And if you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
I wait to say, Jay, don't you do that when
you're around each other a lot? If you're not around
each other a lot, And then you know, like we
don't know, maybe Travis Kelcey does a great job putting
his phone in his pocket and he's not pay doesn't
pay attention to it, like I understand, But those are
things you get distracted. You get noticed being distracted, one
if you're really bad at it, or two if you're
around each other all the time.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Like Doug, like you said, and you made the previous point.
When you're doing a long distance relationship and you finally
have the time to spend together, you have busy schedules,
you're gonna be like cherishing your time. You're gonna be
doing activities, you're gonna be there's no arguing when you're
together because you're finally making that time to spend together
and it should be like joyful time.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
Yeah, but his comment was that we never argue when
we're together. His mab is we never argue period. So
the ninety percent of the time when they're not together,
I've been in long distance relationships, those are those are
some of the most the hardest arguments to have because
you're not present and the other is wondering what you're

(32:24):
doing or Again, it goes back to what Doug said,
if there's a trust issue, there's insecurities with absence. I mean,
these are like deep issues. If you're saying that money
and their jobs make this a great relationship, this proves
my point that this is superficial. They're just they really
like being around each other. There isn't but I don't

(32:45):
think there's a deep loving connection if you have not
argued about the important things.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
But again, what's important if you don't have kids and
you have lots of money. That's what people argue about
the most.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Sometimes some people like a relationship that you know, like, oh,
I'll get to see her for two weeks at the
end of the month, or like whatever it might be.
We have this trip planned out, we got my own
thing going on, I got my season, she's got her tour.
Like sometimes people like living a little bit distant and
then but yes, like Jason said, a central breaking point
in a long distance relationship can be the long distance part,

(33:19):
and that could be the source of the argument, not
being around each other. But some people that's just like
and I'm sure George and Amal Clooney being celebrities themselves,
they don't get to spend each other around a time,
around each other all the time. Maybe they just have
worked out a situation a relationship that way.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Let me bring up something that happens when you when
you do have a relationship with NBA players, especially, it
doesn't matter if you're married or not. This is gonna
be a very unpopular opinion. So if you're triggered by this,
you can go ahead and not listen. And it's very
unpopular on my group text. I have a group text
of about ten buddies and they always make fun of me,

(33:57):
and they they sent me these stories this morning because
they know that I guess I get triggered by it. Yes,
Draymond Green is going to miss the birth of his
I don't know, fourth or fifth kid with his wife.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
And he said this, Draymond, your family is about to grow.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
What is it like going on the road knowing something
like really big and important is on the horizon.

Speaker 10 (34:18):
Uh sucks if I'm honest. But nonetheless, this is this
is my job. I love to do my job, so
but it's terrible if I'm honest. It's not the first
time I've been in this position, though, But my wife
does a great job. She's strong. You know. I'll do

(34:39):
all I can get back here if I need to.

Speaker 6 (34:42):
And this also comes on the day when I guess
Luka Doncic's girlfriend in Slovenia is having his kid and
I think he is missing time two games for the
second child. Yeah, so you have you have two cases here.
Draymond Green is a throwback, So I'm going to go
back to something. Tommylasorta said, this is probably around nineteen

(35:03):
ninety nine. I remember it distinctly because they filled in
for Jim Rome once and he went on this massive
rant about baseball players that don't choose to have their
kids in the offseason, how they are being selfish, how
they play a game for hundreds of thousands of fans
that depend on their presence when they're at the game

(35:25):
or to vibe for championships when they're on the field.
That if you're a professional athlete, you should be able
to time your biological clock around your childbirths. And if
you do slip up and have a child during the season,
you should miss the birth of that child because the
sense of duty to your team and to your fans
and the compensation you get warrants that sacrifice. That was

(35:50):
by Tommy Lasorda in nineteen ninety nine, which was twenty
six years ago, and he managed for like thirty years
before that. I understand this is an old school of mentality.
Nobody agrees with it now. Whenever I bring this up
again among friends, nobody agrees with this. But to Draymond's point,
I have a sense of duty to the fans. I

(36:10):
have a game against the Spurs. This is my job.
We I'm guessing he's in that moment admitting we slipped up.
This was not a plan pregnancy. Otherwise we would have
done it for the five to six months that I
don't play, which is what you should do.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
I'm you and I are in agreement with this, total
agreement with it. I mean, look, I had an assistant,
I have an assistant coach. I don't know if you
know this. Kil Ganz who joined me and his wife
just gave birth last week and ended up working out great.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Right where she saw your.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Post where you guys were in the Caribbean and he's
child was on the way.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, well no, it was on the way, but I
mean she was due any day.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, that's what I meant, Like she's he had kind of.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Talked the whole thing through, right, he'd been through, like
the whole thing, and like he knew that he if
he was, I said, you got to figure out a plan,
but I don't really want to lose you. You know,
you can go home, but you may not have anyway,
it ended up working out for him. Look, I do
have sympathy over people who want to I don't know

(37:13):
if I'm I don't. I'm not bothered by the missing
time for the birth of the kid, especially if it's
your first, but really any of them if it's a
regular season. It's the paternity leave thing that I don't get.
I just don't get.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
And look like sometimes couples they may struggle for an
entire year to have a kid, like they don't know
when they're gonna get pregnant. They just keep trying and
try and trying. So, yeah, there's an ideal time to
conceive a child if you're gonna plan it out on
a schedule and nine months later it'll be like in
the off season. But I just think that lining those
things up can be a lot trickier when it's people's
body body clocks in action.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
Yep, No, that's the that's the millennial and gen z viewpoint.
Nobody understands my viewpoint below. I just want the generation.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
I don't think there's any job in the world, in
the world where something like a family event like your
birth of your child or the death of a parent
takes uh takes second fiddle to your job. Because there's
people that work in the entertainment field who make their
own schedule and they're well compensated, and they're just like, yeah,

(38:21):
I'm I'm sorry, I'm gonna have to postpone or cancel
these tour dates or what have you.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
Yeah, but again, that's a concert. That's not that's not
an event that has a definitive schedule.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah, I know, but it's all entertainment.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I actually listen.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
I again, Jason, we're talking regular season, especially the NBA.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
I'm okay with it if it's the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
I don't miss anything for the playoffs. Yeah, that's where
that's where you and I are aligned. Like when it
really matters, Sorry, it really matters.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
That is what you sign them to do. Everybody else
is depending upon you.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
I get.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Then you have the religious.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Thing with with uh. I mean the LA Dodgers are
the most famous. You know, Sandy Kopak missing a playoff
game because of his religion. I do understand that I'm
not there as a religious person, But I think you can.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Plan to not avoid.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
You can have avoid the playoffs or the most important times,
maybe a little bit more so than early in the season.

Speaker 6 (39:17):
And we can get the paternity leave it and then
a whole other podcast. That's a whole other tangent. That's
another millennial gen zu pacification of America topic. So I've
got the Deshaun Watson situation is annoying Travis kelcey wine
or their relationship is pretty surface or attending the birth

(39:40):
of your child over playing for millions.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Of fans, m was the first one.

Speaker 6 (39:47):
It was the Deshaun Watson situation.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Shawn Watson situation.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Uh, I'll go, I go to Shaun Watson situation and
it's because and here's where I'm aligned with with you, Jason.
It's like this was the biggest thing ever. And then
your owner didn't have to say what he said, which
is they took a big swing and missed. But because
he said it, now everything anything they say about Deshaun Watson,

(40:12):
we know it to be a lie, right, We know
it to be disingenuous on some level, and for that
it's a nice.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Why are we doing this.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Because we can?

Speaker 6 (40:29):
This guy's becoming quite a regular and because we can
because he has a podcast and he likes to let
it rip. Remember Max Crosby and Justin Herbert got into
it on Sunday. In fact, Crosby hit him and then
Herbert took a dive or was really hit hard. Anyways,
he described it. Max Crosby from his viewpoint, Herbert.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Looked at you made a decision. He knew he's gonna yell,
and then he had to pay the consequences.

Speaker 11 (40:54):
Yeah, they're gonna get special treatment when it comes to
that type of stuff. If it was a lineman and
he flopped like that, they probably wondn't call it, you
know what I mean. But if you're gonna talk shit,
talk shit, and he you know, I'm running away and
I hear him, there's nobody around, like they singled in
the camera like this, there's nobody around. He's screaming in
my ear like on purpose, yes, and of course like yeah,

(41:14):
I'm pissed off, and I gave him like a little
love tap and he flopped like crazy. You know, it's
a he did a good job. You know, I shouldn't
have even reacted in general. So that's not me. But
I respect him, bro.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
I respect him.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
But if you're gonna talk shit, talk shit, that that's
He offered the most disrespectful take on him, basically calling
him a flopper and calling him soft, and then goes, but.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
I respect him, but I respect him. Why I couldn't
play for you? Because we can't. That's it for the
end the bonus podcast.

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