December 12, 2025 • 30 mins
Doug speculates on what may have happened with the Sherrone Moore scandal. Doug reacts to Colin Cowherd's take on Shedeur Sanders. Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus Todd Bowles makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in
the bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
In the bonus Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Welcome in, Dud, Dud.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Okay, we got a lot to get.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
To here in the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
So here's what I want to do, Jason.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Since this is the podcast and we can say whatever
we want to say on the podcast, I think it's
really really important for us to speculate because on the
radio you can't really speculate as much. On the podcast,
you can go like, Okay, let's have the real talk
that we really want to have, which is, what do
you actually.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Think happened with Sharon Moore?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Because we have the succession of all right, they found
out in September, or people say they found out in September,
they launched an investigation. It didn't come out until December.
There's all this other talk of things in regards to
the young woman who's involved. What do you is it?
Is it wrong speculation to be like, Okay, he thought
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this thing was handled, was not going to be discussed,
had been whatever they had done and discussed had was
not supposed to come out, and then you know, locks,
loose lips, sink ships. She did not hold up her
into the bargain in terms of what she said or
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telling people, and it got around and ultimately it got
him fired or I don't know, and that's why he
was losing his Sahi double chopsticks when when the police recalled,
what do you what speculate for me? What do you
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how do you think things went down?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I have no idea what would happen, but I do
find this part interesting. Paul Speary if he's got like
eight hundred thousand followers online, I'm on Twitter and he's
a columnist for New York Post. He tweeted this last night.
Michigan coach allegedly paid young Stafford University hush money to
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cover up affair, then fire fired her after officials started
asking questions, but after she came forward, prompting his firing
for a cause no payout, he stormed her apartment with
a knife, which, by the way, according to the indictment
read at the arraignment, was a couple butter knives and scissors,
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and Sam I was Sam speculated that maybe he was
going to make biscuits with the butter knives. But anyways,
I think that rumor or what speculation is the most interesting.
Hush money this much is nothing about the abortion, So
I don't know if that's still speculation, if that's been confirmed.
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I will say this that the sit down with her,
whether it's TMZ or ABC or whatever, the sit down
with her is going to be incredible.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Light the lighting, the lighting is going to be really interesting.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Right, She'll have what kind of an orangeish tin?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yes, yes, there'll be a halo around her head.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
And and it's interesting though, right like we're here, we
are doing all talking about these things. I mean, the
Boston Celtics fired their coach ever at Michigan State, Michigan
Bob Petrino lost his job at Arkansas. Inappropriate relationships in
the workplace are going to get you. But but again,
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what is it is Is it hush money or is
it and again it essentially is hush money? But how
is it actually how is it actually presented?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Right?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
How is it actually presented? Does she have a what's
it called when you can't talk about a topic?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Non disclosure?
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
She has? Is it a non disclosure agreement?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And that's the settlement of a non disclosure agreement, which
it is hush money.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
That's called the Stormy Daniels.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You know, yeah, it is hush money. It is not
admittance of guilt, although pretty obviously he's guilty here. But
did the wife know about the hush money? Did Was
she kept in the dark or was she in the loop?
Was she just along for was she just like, hey,
I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut because it getting's
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good here as the Michigan football coach's wife, like, I
don't know. All of that stuff is fascinating. And that's now,
that's the part that we've all gotten talking about. Right now,
we've moved on from the surprise of it to the.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Man that's dumb. Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
You know, the Michigan football fan just wants to know
who's next and Underwood's staying and everybody else is like,
oh well, how who found out? How they find out?
Was she paid off? Did she just tell friends? Did
she go and tell the authorities? Did she go and
tell Michigan?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
You know? Did she you know?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Is there is there was there a baby in Pulf
like all those things, and this can only exist in
the podcast on the radio show because he can't speculate
to this level on the radio show.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It's just not how it's done.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
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Speaker 2 (05:37):
Three two one. Let's get to the Fox Says and now.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Every day, this time in the Bonus podcast, we play
for you a portion of a previous show Fox Sports
Radio Fox Sports One. Here is TJ Housh Manzata talking
about Sharon Moore.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
He a dumb ass, like you can't be that damn
stupid man, Like I don't feel sorry for him. You
a dummy. You got a wife and you got kids,
and you care about messing with somebody else over your family.
How dumb can you be? And then you get caught
and you want people to show empathy towards what you
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got going on. Don't do what you did, get or
pregnant having abortion. No, I'm a double salary, like, I
don't have sympathy for dumb shit Like you're an adult
and this is what you chose to do. You're not
sorry about what happened. You sorry you got caught and
then now you want to garner sympathy. Oh, I'm gonna
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do this to you, and I'm gonna do this to myself.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
No, you not look.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I think that's how so many of us felt when
you originally heard it.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And my argument is.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
It's the he's not wrong, but TJ's also speaking as
if he doesn't know plenty of friends that have done
dumb shit. And I'm again, TJ's a friend, just so
we're aware, Okay, like a really really good friend, and
I trust him and I like him and I respect him,
but I he I know, like right TJ in his
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younger life, and I have a podcast, all ball podcast
somewhere out there where he talks about like he was
a drug dealer. Drug dealer, got his ged, didn't graduate
from high school, wasn't academic eligible, was an eligible period
to play in high school.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So yet like we all do dumb shit.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
His it's just it affected his family, and it's you're
He's completely accurate with the you shouldn't feel sorry for him,
but this it's not like this is an isolated incident
for men.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's like he's the first guy ever to do it.
First guy ever.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
As for the other stuff, the rumors of of a
pregnancy and abortion, Like, I don't even want to get
into that. I don't know what's true and what's not true.
My empathy comes from the fact that as a man
who has made mistakes in his life, and as a
man who has gone through the breakup of a twenty
year marriage, I just I feel and again, I don't
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know if that's happening, but that's kind of a gas, right.
I just know that it's not a fun place to be.
It's a really, really hard place to be, really hard
place to be.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Here's Colin Cowhert talking about Shador Sanders.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
Eight of the top twelve teams drafting currently in the
NFL at the top of the draft board are desperate
for a quarterback, and people thought should do her. NFLGM
said he's a little immature. I agree, he's not serious
enough for my taste. So I think the NFL wanted
to send sort of a message straighten up, young man.
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I'll say it again, fifth round. Every team in this
league passed on him at least four times. Do you
realize with the worst receiving core in the league and
the third worst offensive line since becoming a starter, Schadour
is the best rookie quarterback in the league. Total yards,
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total touchdowns, big plays, passing yards and attempts. He's the
best rookie quarterback since he got the start. Again, not
much around him, So some of these NFL teams, I think,
said we're just going to send a message. He thinks
he's a celebrity. I kept saying, he's the most accurate
college quarterback in the sports history. He moves pretty well,
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he's a big play guy. And I don't know if
he's going to be a franchise quarterback. I don't know,
but I know what I'm watching and I know what
he has to work with. Go look at the draft
order right now. Eight of the twelve teams at the
top could use a quarterback, and everybody passed on him.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Let's stop doing revisionist history.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Stop that shit right now.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Okay, cam Ward went number one overall, went number one overall.
No one had Shador Sanders in that in that discussion.
I was never a big cam Ward guy, only because
he was prone to the big mistake, but everybody else
was super in on him.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
He's way more athletic.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
There's a way better deep ball, and let's let's stop
with the he's the most accurate quarterback in college football, Like,
shut stop. He was all fucking checkdowns, check down Charlie,
Like come on, dude, what are we actually saying. Go
back and look through all the guys that were crazy
accurate like that, and it's all within five yards of
the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Okay. So uh. The Jaguars were the second pick. They
had a quarterback. The Giants were the third pick.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Okay, they passed and circled back and took Jackson Dart.
Jackson Dart was the better quarterback than Shador Sanders. Is
what is what exactly is Colin actually talking about? Okay,
the New England Patriots have a better quarterback. He didn't
want to meet with the Browns. He blew off meetings
with the Giants. By the way, he acted completely disinterested
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in playing for the New York Giants.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Tom Brady was an advisor to the Raiders. Tom Brady
apparently did not tell them to take him at quarterback.
They took Ashton Genty. So this whole kind of narrative
of well, you guys all missed you guys because they
want to teach him lesson bullshit okay, and he may
end up being a starter. The problem is when you
have that type of when you rub people the wrong way,
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you can't be a fucking quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You just can't.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
The reason that Philip Rivers is getting another shot is
it's not just that he knows the offense and knows
Shane Steichen and he can come in and still sling
it like you can't lose a step that you never had.
But Philip Rivers is immensely likable, beloved by anybody who
played with him, anybody.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
It's not the case with Shador.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Bears had a quarterback, Niners had a quarterback, Cowboys had
a quarterback, Dolphins had a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Colts chose to go with a veteran who was playing
with a brilliant decision of what they went because they
still had Anthony Richardson, and they went with Danny dimess
As to compete and really take the job. Hey, the
Falcons drafted quarterback last year in Michael Pennicks. Arizona had
a quarterback in Kyler Murray. The Bengals had a quarterback.
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Seattle went with Sam Darnold. The Buccaneers had a quarterback,
Denver had a quarterback. The Steelers chose not to. They
chose not to. Instead they went with Aaron Rodgers. The
Chargers have a quarterback. The Packers have a quarterback. The
Vikings had a young quarterback. The Giants circled back again.
He was completely caught, you know, didn't know anything on
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the whiteboard with them. They took Jackson Dart, who's better
back to. The Falcons had a quarterback.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
To.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The Ravens have a quarterback. To, the Lions have a quarterback. To.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
The Commanders have a quarterback. To, the Bills have a quarterback.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
To.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
The Eagles have a quarterback.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
To.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
The Chiefs have a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Shut the fuck up about every team in the NFL
needing a fucking quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Stop doing the revision is fucking history. This is not
that hard.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
He only wanted to play for a couple of teams,
and those teams didn't want to draft him. And if
you don't need a starter, you can't bring in a
backup who thinks he's a fucking superstar and has all
these TV cameras and paparazzi and people thinking he should play.
Don't get me wrong, he's been solid the past couple
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weeks he had been great. Now he's a rookie, so
he gets kind of the rookie pass for stuff, and
he's improved some on the back pedaling. But he's had
some bad moments. He's had some really good moments. He
can only stay in Cleveland if he's the unquestioned starter.
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You can only stay in Cleveland if he's a unquestioned starter,
because his name, his presence is too much of a
distraction to be a backup.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Everybody fucking knows that. Everybody knows that they.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Play the Bears, they play the Bills, they play the Steelers,
they played the Bengals, who are a terrible defense. In
the last games of the year. In the next four games,
you'll know. And that's that's what the Browns have to know.
Either he's the guy, or they find somebody who is
the guy in the draft. My guess is I don't
think it happens. I think they move on from him.
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But I'm I'd be gladly proven right, I have proven wrong.
I have no bone to pick other than you don't
go in and blow off a fucking job interview when
you've never played a fucking down in the fucking NFL
like the level of arrogance, and that doesn't marry with
that position. That's the kind of thing you do if
you're a cornerback or a wide receiver. Here's Dan Patrick
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talking about Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Jalen Hurts is not going to beat you from the
pocket too many times if he's throwing the ball over
thre thirty times, forty times. I got to look at
the coach, an offensive coordinator, the scheme of what you're doing. Now,
you have a luxury. They had a luxury of a
great offensive line. They could run the football. Running the
football sets up play action. You've got two really good receivers,
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You've got a really good tight end, and you even
have a running back who can catch the ball out
of the backfield. So something is missing there. And I
would start with the offensive line. But to put this
on Jalen Hurts and all of a sudden, go coach,
you thought about benching Jalen Hurts and putting in Tanner McKee, Like,
what are we doing? Where else would this happen? Somebody
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has a couple of Super Bowl appearances, wins the Super
Bowl as an MVP, and then all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You go.
Speaker 8 (15:46):
You're thinking of benching Patrick Mahomes. Are you really giving
this great thought that you're going to put in Tanner
McKee over Jalen Hurts. Oh maybe you're sitting down and
lett him what? Let him?
Speaker 5 (16:01):
What?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Watch Tanner play?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, you're not. Again.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
All of it is dumb, and I agree with the
idea of the game plan was off.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
They were running the.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Hell out of the football with uh with Saquon more
so than they had all year. And we're suddenly not
using Jalen Hurts as a running weapon and he was
an unbelievable running weapon. Some of it is people have
gotten wise to it, kept him in the pocket and
they're making him throw more. They're making him throw more.
This is your open for a reason is what they
say in basketball. But they're not pulling him. They're gonna
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have to figure it out, and if they don't, they'll
have a new offensive coordat or not a new quarterback
next year.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
That's what the Fox said. What does say?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
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Speaker 2 (16:56):
Let's find Out who what's annoying, Jason Stewart, And now it's.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Your annoying, Hey, Doug. Bjeon Robinson had quite a night.
He led his Falcons to a come from behind win
and then got a little too comfortable with the crew
afterwards on the Amazon broadcast, I don't need to replay it,
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but he basically said, at some point, yeah, like when
we used to play Smear the Queer first and foremost,
Bjon Robinson, I'm guessing was born in two thousand or
around there. I didn't know Smear the Queer was an
actual thing for that generation, so that surprised me. I
grew up playing it. I know you did, and we
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called it that, and then at some point it became
politically incorrect, like wife beater and all these other terms.
So he sent out the following tweet, Hey everyone, I
want to apologize for the insensitive comment I made in
the broadcast. It was a football game we used to
play as a kid, but that's not an excuse. Recognize
the mistake and make sure to do better in the future.
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It was not reflective of my beliefs. I'm so sorry.
I offended seriously. And then the Great Sage Le'Veon Bell,
who everyone goes to for advice in life, says he
quote tweets ununderstandable. We all played the game growing up.
It's just crazy. The world we live in is so
sensitive that everything keep killing brut up. But Le'Veon Bell
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was also the guy last night who made waves by
tweeting the following Nobody tells you that a big part
of being an adult is doing all you can to
stay out of prison. Yeah, that's not my experience. I
thought knowing right from wrong is one of the easier
things to figure out. But anyways, I digress. Jean Robinson says,
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smear the queer on a national broadcast has to apologize.
But I will say this, if the President of the
United States three weeks ago could call the governor of
minnesot to retard it, and then when asked if he
regrets or wants to take back that, he says, no.
Where are we with language in America? Like what qualifies
as offensive and not?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I definitely you bring up a great question, and it's
what's what President Trump has changed for the worst is
that office used to used to have the highest regard
for human decency and for proper language and he simply
does not, and we've allowed it, we've fostered it, we've
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in many people who support him have championed it, and
it's wrong. And again, like as a Jewish person, and
there are times in which you could if you call
someone if someone's a Jew, you're a Jew, Well, that's
not a negative term. If you say a dirty jew, right,
or a cheap Jew or whatever, use a negative connotation.
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The point is that the word is actually not an
inappropriate word. Smear the queer by definition is is inappropriate
and offensive, right, because it's about jumping on and dogpiling
on somebody essentially because they're gay, right, And it's the
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exact negative connotation of somebody who is homosexual. So every
part of it should be offensive. It's not a generational thing.
It's just a Hey, these two words together are really
really offensive for how people have in the past treaty
gay people. So and I'm not the I'm not the
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moral police, I'm not the I'm not a Karen. I'm
not searching for inappropriate things. But I think most people
know it. I thought the way he handled it after
afterwards was great. It was a game that we played.
I didn't I'm with you. I didn't know it was
still played in the two thousands, and he's going to
be like it was a game. It slipped out of
my mouth. I reckon it's offensive. But was it Le'Veon
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Bell as any who?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
That was?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yeah? Le'Veon Bell?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, great stage, at the great stage, l Bell, you know,
spitting spitting bars about staying out of prison.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I don't think he's the one we should go to
for his advice.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
The thing that annoys me about this is that I
didn't think about it. All I do what we What
did I say that we do? We churned through content.
All I do every day is churn through interesting content.
And it took a listener, Fred and Nebraska to bring
this to our Attentionent Fred and Nebraska, I think is
a Fox Sports radio p one. Hello Fred, and thanks
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for listening, and thank you here for the content. He
said this. He sent this following texts. Have any of
you seen the latest Google Pixel cell phone commercial featuring
Steph Curry? Is if that's not a direct shot at Lebron,
I don't know what is. So I'm watching sports this
past weekend and I saw the commercial and I'm like,
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how has this not been pointed out, this is the commercial,
the first eleven seconds of Steph Curry's Google Pixel commercial.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
I get it. It's hard to change me. I'm pretty loyal.
I've been on the same team for seventeen years, same
coach for eleven never switched my number once.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I mean, cool, How great is that? Thank you Fred
and Nebraska at Quiet Guy NB. That's a great thing
to bring up. Thank you, And how has that not
been made a bigger deal? Doug.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
It's a great point because I did see it and
I was like, was he talking about Kobe? And then
I was like, oh no, wait, let's talk about Lebron.
I get he's just reading the script that was written
for him. But it definitely is an interesting script that
was written for him.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah, there's no way in hell he signs off on
it if it's Steph Curry. But anyways, thanks Fred Nebraska,
and I'm annoyed that I didn't come up with it first. Now,
Joe Burrow's comments this week have raised eyebrows. He's been
u compared to Andrew what's his face? Andrew Luck the
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one where that you tweeted about after his retirement, saying
the most millennial thing ever that rehab is hard. Joe
Burrow said this to reporters earlier this week when asked
when did football stop becoming fun?
Speaker 9 (23:28):
I want to keep doing this. I have to have
fun doing it. You know, I've been through a lot,
and if it's not fun, then what am I doing
it for. I'm not sure. I'm not sure there is
a singular moment or of time. It's just a reflection,
reflection on a lot of things that I've done and
been through in my career. I think I've been through
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more than most and it's certainly not easy on the
brain or the body. So it's trying to have Fu'm doing.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
It again now. I checked. He's an old gen Z.
He's a very young millennial born in nineteen ninety six,
and that those generations, especially gen Z, thinks that you're
entitled to have fun at work. That's that's the reason
why there is so much turnover that if you're not
having fun, why should I be working?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Well.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Work is used to be called labor. There are labor laws,
there have been labor there have been actual amendments in
the Constitution that have to do with labor, and labor
has the connotation of not being fun. In fact, the
opposite of fun laborious. It's something that you have to
do in order to get something. And in most of
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our jobs, our job is to make the most money
for our employer, to provide the best productivity, maximize productivity,
and provide the best product for our employer. That's what
we all do. Fun is not in any any job description,
and you're not owed fun even if you play a
kid's game. You're paid fifty million bucks a year. I
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ran into a guy at Disneyland last week. We had
an iHeart event. I ran into a guy who I've
known for years and he's like, yeah, hey, I was
talking to so and so about you last week, and
he says, you're all business at work. And he didn't
say that as a as a positive thing, right, I'm
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all business like when I show up to work, I
should be fucking around and making it pleasant and fun
for everybody. Again, this generation thinks that fun is an
entitlement at work, and I think that is at the
basis of these Joe Burrow comments that have been talked
about all week.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I actually I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I do think though, that the idea of playing with
joy is something that people have decided is because the
Warriors kind of brought that to the table. That's what we're
trying to emulate, right, is the play with joy and yeah,
you do have sports are supposed to be fun work,
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you know, it's it's not a job if you if
you don't, if you don't feel like it's a job
and it's fun, it doesn't feel like a job. So
I get it. I understand. I do think it translates.
It it the trickle down to it is the reaffirmation
of that gen Z idea that you have to have
fun at work. I don't think that's truly what he means,
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but I do. I do think that's the narrative that
people will take from it, especially gen Ziers.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
So gen Z's approach to labor. Uh, Steph Curry's commercial
that I didn't catch and then they smear the queer
comment by Jon Robinson and the Ray apology and all that.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Wow, that's good. I'm gonna go with, Man, what am
I gonna go with? Uh?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I'm gonna go with gen Z's approach to work that
it's always got to be fun. I do think that
one of the great things about what you and I
do and what Joe Burrow does is it can be very,
very fun, but you can't search out the fun. The
fun comes in the performance, not actually doing the performance.
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The success of it is the fun part. So to
gen zers who expect all of their jobs to just
be a blast, be a party, bring them giggles on
a daily basis, you are, in fact no, that's.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Why are we doing this? Because we can?
Speaker 4 (27:43):
To me, this is like the very essence of because
we can, Because we every broadcast entity today has had
to play Todd Bowles because this is one of the
sound bites of the year, and we talked about it
at length on the show, but only we on this
podcast could the uncensored version. Todd Bowles started his press
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conference last night after the game like this excusable.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
You don't make excuses. We You gotta fucking care enough
where the shit hurts. You gotta fucking care enough where
the shit hurts. It gotta fucking mean something to you.
It's more than a job. It's your fucking livelihood. How
well do you know your job? How well can you
do your job?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Well?
Speaker 5 (28:23):
You can't sugarcoat that shit. It was in the fucking
excusable and he has no fucking answer for it. That's
for no excuse for it. That's what you're telling them
in a lot. Look in the fucking mirror.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
That's so good. That's so good. I love it. I
love it now. Uh I was.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I was critiqued by some people that are close to
me when we lost the game to Robert Morse. I said,
you know, uh, they got to learn how to finish.
They played like idiots. And I've had a couple of
people will be like, well, you're critical of your players, Like, no, no,
When you say somebody played like an idiot, just so
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people understand, that means you're not an idiot. But for
a minute and thirty seconds, you lost your all your
brain cells stopped activating. You played like something you are not.
If I said my players are idiots, well now that
is super offensive.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
They played like idiots. It means no, they're not.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
They're actually really good, really smart kids that at work
really well together. They just had collect We all had
collective and I and I should have been more and
I did say it. But what happens is when you
say they and I didn't say that. I did at
point out, we as a coaching staff needs to be
better and people get caught up in we and they
what they don't realize is when we win, as we
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won last night, I said, this is what they did.
They won the game. They won the game, won the game.
So yeah, I think I understand what Todd Bowles is saying,
and Todd Bowles says it in such a matter of
fact way that guys actually take that. They take that
way better. I know people think in the media, and
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of course you're supposed to in front of the media,
coaches take all the blame and they get all the
respect when they win. You make it never about yourself
in the good in the good way. If it's bad,
just take it as a coach. Hey, that's on me.
Don't worry about If he screwed up, that's on me.
That's on we didn't prep them well enough, we didn't
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tell them, if we didn't put them incision to succeed,
that's on us, not on them. But then privately, that's
actually how people talk. Unacceptable. Look yourself at the mirror,
be a man, admit it, fix it. Let's move on.
Why could we play for you because we can't. That's
it for the in the Bonus podcast. Check out the
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Speaker 2 (30:49):
I'm Doug Gottlie
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in
the bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
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What Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
In the bonus Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Welcome in, Dud, Dud.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Okay, we got a lot to get.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
To here in the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
So here's what I want to do, Jason.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Since this is the podcast and we can say whatever
we want to say on the podcast, I think it's
really really important for us to speculate because on the
radio you can't really speculate as much. On the podcast,
you can go like, Okay, let's have the real talk
that we really want to have, which is, what do
you actually.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Think happened with Sharon Moore?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Because we have the succession of all right, they found
out in September, or people say they found out in September,
they launched an investigation. It didn't come out until December.
There's all this other talk of things in regards to
the young woman who's involved. What do you is it?
Is it wrong speculation to be like, Okay, he thought
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this thing was handled, was not going to be discussed,
had been whatever they had done and discussed had was
not supposed to come out, and then you know, locks,
loose lips, sink ships. She did not hold up her
into the bargain in terms of what she said or
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telling people, and it got around and ultimately it got
him fired or I don't know, and that's why he
was losing his Sahi double chopsticks when when the police recalled,
what do you what speculate for me? What do you
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how do you think things went down?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I have no idea what would happen, but I do
find this part interesting. Paul Speary if he's got like
eight hundred thousand followers online, I'm on Twitter and he's
a columnist for New York Post. He tweeted this last night.
Michigan coach allegedly paid young Stafford University hush money to
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cover up affair, then fire fired her after officials started
asking questions, but after she came forward, prompting his firing
for a cause no payout, he stormed her apartment with
a knife, which, by the way, according to the indictment
read at the arraignment, was a couple butter knives and scissors,
(02:47):
and Sam I was Sam speculated that maybe he was
going to make biscuits with the butter knives. But anyways,
I think that rumor or what speculation is the most interesting.
Hush money this much is nothing about the abortion, So
I don't know if that's still speculation, if that's been confirmed.
(03:10):
I will say this that the sit down with her,
whether it's TMZ or ABC or whatever, the sit down
with her is going to be incredible.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Light the lighting, the lighting is going to be really interesting.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Right, She'll have what kind of an orangeish tin?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yes, yes, there'll be a halo around her head.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
And and it's interesting though, right like we're here, we
are doing all talking about these things. I mean, the
Boston Celtics fired their coach ever at Michigan State, Michigan
Bob Petrino lost his job at Arkansas. Inappropriate relationships in
the workplace are going to get you. But but again,
(03:54):
what is it is Is it hush money or is
it and again it essentially is hush money? But how
is it actually how is it actually presented?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Right?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
How is it actually presented? Does she have a what's
it called when you can't talk about a topic?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Non disclosure?
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
She has? Is it a non disclosure agreement?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And that's the settlement of a non disclosure agreement, which
it is hush money.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
That's called the Stormy Daniels.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You know, yeah, it is hush money. It is not
admittance of guilt, although pretty obviously he's guilty here. But
did the wife know about the hush money? Did Was
she kept in the dark or was she in the loop?
Was she just along for was she just like, hey,
I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut because it getting's
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good here as the Michigan football coach's wife, like, I
don't know. All of that stuff is fascinating. And that's now,
that's the part that we've all gotten talking about. Right now,
we've moved on from the surprise of it to the.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Man that's dumb. Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
You know, the Michigan football fan just wants to know
who's next and Underwood's staying and everybody else is like,
oh well, how who found out? How they find out?
Was she paid off? Did she just tell friends? Did
she go and tell the authorities? Did she go and
tell Michigan?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
You know? Did she you know?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Is there is there was there a baby in Pulf
like all those things, and this can only exist in
the podcast on the radio show because he can't speculate
to this level on the radio show.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It's just not how it's done.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Three two one. Let's get to the Fox Says and now.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Every day, this time in the Bonus podcast, we play
for you a portion of a previous show Fox Sports
Radio Fox Sports One. Here is TJ Housh Manzata talking
about Sharon Moore.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
He a dumb ass, like you can't be that damn
stupid man, Like I don't feel sorry for him. You
a dummy. You got a wife and you got kids,
and you care about messing with somebody else over your family.
How dumb can you be? And then you get caught
and you want people to show empathy towards what you
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got going on. Don't do what you did, get or
pregnant having abortion. No, I'm a double salary, like, I
don't have sympathy for dumb shit Like you're an adult
and this is what you chose to do. You're not
sorry about what happened. You sorry you got caught and
then now you want to garner sympathy. Oh, I'm gonna
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do this to you, and I'm gonna do this to myself.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
No, you not look.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I think that's how so many of us felt when
you originally heard it.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And my argument is.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
It's the he's not wrong, but TJ's also speaking as
if he doesn't know plenty of friends that have done
dumb shit. And I'm again, TJ's a friend, just so
we're aware, Okay, like a really really good friend, and
I trust him and I like him and I respect him,
but I he I know, like right TJ in his
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younger life, and I have a podcast, all ball podcast
somewhere out there where he talks about like he was
a drug dealer. Drug dealer, got his ged, didn't graduate
from high school, wasn't academic eligible, was an eligible period
to play in high school.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
So yet like we all do dumb shit.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
His it's just it affected his family, and it's you're
He's completely accurate with the you shouldn't feel sorry for him,
but this it's not like this is an isolated incident
for men.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's like he's the first guy ever to do it.
First guy ever.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
As for the other stuff, the rumors of of a
pregnancy and abortion, Like, I don't even want to get
into that. I don't know what's true and what's not true.
My empathy comes from the fact that as a man
who has made mistakes in his life, and as a
man who has gone through the breakup of a twenty
year marriage, I just I feel and again, I don't
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know if that's happening, but that's kind of a gas, right.
I just know that it's not a fun place to be.
It's a really, really hard place to be, really hard
place to be.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Here's Colin Cowhert talking about Shador Sanders.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
Eight of the top twelve teams drafting currently in the
NFL at the top of the draft board are desperate
for a quarterback, and people thought should do her. NFLGM
said he's a little immature. I agree, he's not serious
enough for my taste. So I think the NFL wanted
to send sort of a message straighten up, young man.
(08:54):
I'll say it again, fifth round. Every team in this
league passed on him at least four times. Do you
realize with the worst receiving core in the league and
the third worst offensive line since becoming a starter, Schadour
is the best rookie quarterback in the league. Total yards,
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total touchdowns, big plays, passing yards and attempts. He's the
best rookie quarterback since he got the start. Again, not
much around him, So some of these NFL teams, I think,
said we're just going to send a message. He thinks
he's a celebrity. I kept saying, he's the most accurate
college quarterback in the sports history. He moves pretty well,
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he's a big play guy. And I don't know if
he's going to be a franchise quarterback. I don't know,
but I know what I'm watching and I know what
he has to work with. Go look at the draft
order right now. Eight of the twelve teams at the
top could use a quarterback, and everybody passed on him.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Let's stop doing revisionist history.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Stop that shit right now.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Okay, cam Ward went number one overall, went number one overall.
No one had Shador Sanders in that in that discussion.
I was never a big cam Ward guy, only because
he was prone to the big mistake, but everybody else
was super in on him.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
He's way more athletic.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
There's a way better deep ball, and let's let's stop
with the he's the most accurate quarterback in college football, Like,
shut stop. He was all fucking checkdowns, check down Charlie,
Like come on, dude, what are we actually saying. Go
back and look through all the guys that were crazy
accurate like that, and it's all within five yards of
the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Okay. So uh. The Jaguars were the second pick. They
had a quarterback. The Giants were the third pick.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Okay, they passed and circled back and took Jackson Dart.
Jackson Dart was the better quarterback than Shador Sanders. Is
what is what exactly is Colin actually talking about? Okay,
the New England Patriots have a better quarterback. He didn't
want to meet with the Browns. He blew off meetings
with the Giants. By the way, he acted completely disinterested
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in playing for the New York Giants.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Tom Brady was an advisor to the Raiders. Tom Brady
apparently did not tell them to take him at quarterback.
They took Ashton Genty. So this whole kind of narrative
of well, you guys all missed you guys because they
want to teach him lesson bullshit okay, and he may
end up being a starter. The problem is when you
have that type of when you rub people the wrong way,
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you can't be a fucking quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You just can't.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
The reason that Philip Rivers is getting another shot is
it's not just that he knows the offense and knows
Shane Steichen and he can come in and still sling
it like you can't lose a step that you never had.
But Philip Rivers is immensely likable, beloved by anybody who
played with him, anybody.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
It's not the case with Shador.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Bears had a quarterback, Niners had a quarterback, Cowboys had
a quarterback, Dolphins had a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Colts chose to go with a veteran who was playing
with a brilliant decision of what they went because they
still had Anthony Richardson, and they went with Danny dimess
As to compete and really take the job. Hey, the
Falcons drafted quarterback last year in Michael Pennicks. Arizona had
a quarterback in Kyler Murray. The Bengals had a quarterback.
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Seattle went with Sam Darnold. The Buccaneers had a quarterback,
Denver had a quarterback. The Steelers chose not to. They
chose not to. Instead they went with Aaron Rodgers. The
Chargers have a quarterback. The Packers have a quarterback. The
Vikings had a young quarterback. The Giants circled back again.
He was completely caught, you know, didn't know anything on
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the whiteboard with them. They took Jackson Dart, who's better
back to. The Falcons had a quarterback.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
To.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The Ravens have a quarterback. To, the Lions have a quarterback. To.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
The Commanders have a quarterback. To, the Bills have a quarterback.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
To.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
The Eagles have a quarterback.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
To.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
The Chiefs have a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Shut the fuck up about every team in the NFL
needing a fucking quarterback.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Stop doing the revision is fucking history. This is not
that hard.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
He only wanted to play for a couple of teams,
and those teams didn't want to draft him. And if
you don't need a starter, you can't bring in a
backup who thinks he's a fucking superstar and has all
these TV cameras and paparazzi and people thinking he should play.
Don't get me wrong, he's been solid the past couple
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weeks he had been great. Now he's a rookie, so
he gets kind of the rookie pass for stuff, and
he's improved some on the back pedaling. But he's had
some bad moments. He's had some really good moments. He
can only stay in Cleveland if he's the unquestioned starter.
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You can only stay in Cleveland if he's a unquestioned starter,
because his name, his presence is too much of a
distraction to be a backup.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Everybody fucking knows that. Everybody knows that they.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Play the Bears, they play the Bills, they play the Steelers,
they played the Bengals, who are a terrible defense. In
the last games of the year. In the next four games,
you'll know. And that's that's what the Browns have to know.
Either he's the guy, or they find somebody who is
the guy in the draft. My guess is I don't
think it happens. I think they move on from him.
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But I'm I'd be gladly proven right, I have proven wrong.
I have no bone to pick other than you don't
go in and blow off a fucking job interview when
you've never played a fucking down in the fucking NFL
like the level of arrogance, and that doesn't marry with
that position. That's the kind of thing you do if
you're a cornerback or a wide receiver. Here's Dan Patrick
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talking about Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Jalen Hurts is not going to beat you from the
pocket too many times if he's throwing the ball over
thre thirty times, forty times. I got to look at
the coach, an offensive coordinator, the scheme of what you're doing. Now,
you have a luxury. They had a luxury of a
great offensive line. They could run the football. Running the
football sets up play action. You've got two really good receivers,
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You've got a really good tight end, and you even
have a running back who can catch the ball out
of the backfield. So something is missing there. And I
would start with the offensive line. But to put this
on Jalen Hurts and all of a sudden, go coach,
you thought about benching Jalen Hurts and putting in Tanner McKee, Like,
what are we doing? Where else would this happen? Somebody
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has a couple of Super Bowl appearances, wins the Super
Bowl as an MVP, and then all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You go.
Speaker 8 (15:46):
You're thinking of benching Patrick Mahomes. Are you really giving
this great thought that you're going to put in Tanner
McKee over Jalen Hurts. Oh maybe you're sitting down and
lett him what? Let him?
Speaker 5 (16:01):
What?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Watch Tanner play?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, you're not. Again.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
All of it is dumb, and I agree with the
idea of the game plan was off.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
They were running the.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Hell out of the football with uh with Saquon more
so than they had all year. And we're suddenly not
using Jalen Hurts as a running weapon and he was
an unbelievable running weapon. Some of it is people have
gotten wise to it, kept him in the pocket and
they're making him throw more. They're making him throw more.
This is your open for a reason is what they
say in basketball. But they're not pulling him. They're gonna
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have to figure it out, and if they don't, they'll
have a new offensive coordat or not a new quarterback
next year.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
That's what the Fox said. What does say?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekday. He's at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
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Speaker 2 (16:56):
Let's find Out who what's annoying, Jason Stewart, And now it's.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Your annoying, Hey, Doug. Bjeon Robinson had quite a night.
He led his Falcons to a come from behind win
and then got a little too comfortable with the crew
afterwards on the Amazon broadcast, I don't need to replay it,
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but he basically said, at some point, yeah, like when
we used to play Smear the Queer first and foremost,
Bjon Robinson, I'm guessing was born in two thousand or
around there. I didn't know Smear the Queer was an
actual thing for that generation, so that surprised me. I
grew up playing it. I know you did, and we
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called it that, and then at some point it became
politically incorrect, like wife beater and all these other terms.
So he sent out the following tweet, Hey everyone, I
want to apologize for the insensitive comment I made in
the broadcast. It was a football game we used to
play as a kid, but that's not an excuse. Recognize
the mistake and make sure to do better in the future.
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It was not reflective of my beliefs. I'm so sorry.
I offended seriously. And then the Great Sage Le'Veon Bell,
who everyone goes to for advice in life, says he
quote tweets ununderstandable. We all played the game growing up.
It's just crazy. The world we live in is so
sensitive that everything keep killing brut up. But Le'Veon Bell
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was also the guy last night who made waves by
tweeting the following Nobody tells you that a big part
of being an adult is doing all you can to
stay out of prison. Yeah, that's not my experience. I
thought knowing right from wrong is one of the easier
things to figure out. But anyways, I digress. Jean Robinson says,
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smear the queer on a national broadcast has to apologize.
But I will say this, if the President of the
United States three weeks ago could call the governor of
minnesot to retard it, and then when asked if he
regrets or wants to take back that, he says, no.
Where are we with language in America? Like what qualifies
as offensive and not?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I definitely you bring up a great question, and it's
what's what President Trump has changed for the worst is
that office used to used to have the highest regard
for human decency and for proper language and he simply
does not, and we've allowed it, we've fostered it, we've
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in many people who support him have championed it, and
it's wrong. And again, like as a Jewish person, and
there are times in which you could if you call
someone if someone's a Jew, you're a Jew, Well, that's
not a negative term. If you say a dirty jew, right,
or a cheap Jew or whatever, use a negative connotation.
(19:58):
The point is that the word is actually not an
inappropriate word. Smear the queer by definition is is inappropriate
and offensive, right, because it's about jumping on and dogpiling
on somebody essentially because they're gay, right, And it's the
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exact negative connotation of somebody who is homosexual. So every
part of it should be offensive. It's not a generational thing.
It's just a Hey, these two words together are really
really offensive for how people have in the past treaty
gay people. So and I'm not the I'm not the
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moral police, I'm not the I'm not a Karen. I'm
not searching for inappropriate things. But I think most people
know it. I thought the way he handled it after
afterwards was great. It was a game that we played.
I didn't I'm with you. I didn't know it was
still played in the two thousands, and he's going to
be like it was a game. It slipped out of
my mouth. I reckon it's offensive. But was it Le'Veon
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Bell as any who?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
That was?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yeah? Le'Veon Bell?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, great stage, at the great stage, l Bell, you know,
spitting spitting bars about staying out of prison.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I don't think he's the one we should go to
for his advice.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
The thing that annoys me about this is that I
didn't think about it. All I do what we What
did I say that we do? We churned through content.
All I do every day is churn through interesting content.
And it took a listener, Fred and Nebraska to bring
this to our Attentionent Fred and Nebraska, I think is
a Fox Sports radio p one. Hello Fred, and thanks
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for listening, and thank you here for the content. He
said this. He sent this following texts. Have any of
you seen the latest Google Pixel cell phone commercial featuring
Steph Curry? Is if that's not a direct shot at Lebron,
I don't know what is. So I'm watching sports this
past weekend and I saw the commercial and I'm like,
(22:01):
how has this not been pointed out, this is the commercial,
the first eleven seconds of Steph Curry's Google Pixel commercial.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
I get it. It's hard to change me. I'm pretty loyal.
I've been on the same team for seventeen years, same
coach for eleven never switched my number once.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I mean, cool, How great is that? Thank you Fred
and Nebraska at Quiet Guy NB. That's a great thing
to bring up. Thank you, And how has that not
been made a bigger deal? Doug.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
It's a great point because I did see it and
I was like, was he talking about Kobe? And then
I was like, oh no, wait, let's talk about Lebron.
I get he's just reading the script that was written
for him. But it definitely is an interesting script that
was written for him.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah, there's no way in hell he signs off on
it if it's Steph Curry. But anyways, thanks Fred Nebraska,
and I'm annoyed that I didn't come up with it first. Now,
Joe Burrow's comments this week have raised eyebrows. He's been
u compared to Andrew what's his face? Andrew Luck the
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one where that you tweeted about after his retirement, saying
the most millennial thing ever that rehab is hard. Joe
Burrow said this to reporters earlier this week when asked
when did football stop becoming fun?
Speaker 9 (23:28):
I want to keep doing this. I have to have
fun doing it. You know, I've been through a lot,
and if it's not fun, then what am I doing
it for. I'm not sure. I'm not sure there is
a singular moment or of time. It's just a reflection,
reflection on a lot of things that I've done and
been through in my career. I think I've been through
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more than most and it's certainly not easy on the
brain or the body. So it's trying to have Fu'm doing.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
It again now. I checked. He's an old gen Z.
He's a very young millennial born in nineteen ninety six,
and that those generations, especially gen Z, thinks that you're
entitled to have fun at work. That's that's the reason
why there is so much turnover that if you're not
having fun, why should I be working?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Well.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Work is used to be called labor. There are labor laws,
there have been labor there have been actual amendments in
the Constitution that have to do with labor, and labor
has the connotation of not being fun. In fact, the
opposite of fun laborious. It's something that you have to
do in order to get something. And in most of
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our jobs, our job is to make the most money
for our employer, to provide the best productivity, maximize productivity,
and provide the best product for our employer. That's what
we all do. Fun is not in any any job description,
and you're not owed fun even if you play a
kid's game. You're paid fifty million bucks a year. I
(24:59):
ran into a guy at Disneyland last week. We had
an iHeart event. I ran into a guy who I've
known for years and he's like, yeah, hey, I was
talking to so and so about you last week, and
he says, you're all business at work. And he didn't
say that as a as a positive thing, right, I'm
(25:20):
all business like when I show up to work, I
should be fucking around and making it pleasant and fun
for everybody. Again, this generation thinks that fun is an
entitlement at work, and I think that is at the
basis of these Joe Burrow comments that have been talked
about all week.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I actually I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I do think though, that the idea of playing with
joy is something that people have decided is because the
Warriors kind of brought that to the table. That's what we're
trying to emulate, right, is the play with joy and yeah,
you do have sports are supposed to be fun work,
(26:06):
you know, it's it's not a job if you if
you don't, if you don't feel like it's a job
and it's fun, it doesn't feel like a job. So
I get it. I understand. I do think it translates.
It it the trickle down to it is the reaffirmation
of that gen Z idea that you have to have
fun at work. I don't think that's truly what he means,
(26:30):
but I do. I do think that's the narrative that
people will take from it, especially gen Ziers.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
So gen Z's approach to labor. Uh, Steph Curry's commercial
that I didn't catch and then they smear the queer
comment by Jon Robinson and the Ray apology and all that.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Wow, that's good. I'm gonna go with, Man, what am
I gonna go with? Uh?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I'm gonna go with gen Z's approach to work that
it's always got to be fun. I do think that
one of the great things about what you and I
do and what Joe Burrow does is it can be very,
very fun, but you can't search out the fun. The
fun comes in the performance, not actually doing the performance.
(27:21):
The success of it is the fun part. So to
gen zers who expect all of their jobs to just
be a blast, be a party, bring them giggles on
a daily basis, you are, in fact no, that's.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Why are we doing this? Because we can?
Speaker 4 (27:43):
To me, this is like the very essence of because
we can, Because we every broadcast entity today has had
to play Todd Bowles because this is one of the
sound bites of the year, and we talked about it
at length on the show, but only we on this
podcast could the uncensored version. Todd Bowles started his press
(28:04):
conference last night after the game like this excusable.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
You don't make excuses. We You gotta fucking care enough
where the shit hurts. You gotta fucking care enough where
the shit hurts. It gotta fucking mean something to you.
It's more than a job. It's your fucking livelihood. How
well do you know your job? How well can you
do your job?
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Well?
Speaker 5 (28:23):
You can't sugarcoat that shit. It was in the fucking
excusable and he has no fucking answer for it. That's
for no excuse for it. That's what you're telling them
in a lot. Look in the fucking mirror.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
That's so good. That's so good. I love it. I
love it now. Uh I was.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I was critiqued by some people that are close to
me when we lost the game to Robert Morse. I said,
you know, uh, they got to learn how to finish.
They played like idiots. And I've had a couple of
people will be like, well, you're critical of your players, Like, no, no,
When you say somebody played like an idiot, just so
(29:04):
people understand, that means you're not an idiot. But for
a minute and thirty seconds, you lost your all your
brain cells stopped activating. You played like something you are not.
If I said my players are idiots, well now that
is super offensive.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
They played like idiots. It means no, they're not.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
They're actually really good, really smart kids that at work
really well together. They just had collect We all had
collective and I and I should have been more and
I did say it. But what happens is when you
say they and I didn't say that. I did at
point out, we as a coaching staff needs to be
better and people get caught up in we and they
what they don't realize is when we win, as we
(29:47):
won last night, I said, this is what they did.
They won the game. They won the game, won the game.
So yeah, I think I understand what Todd Bowles is saying,
and Todd Bowles says it in such a matter of
fact way that guys actually take that. They take that
way better. I know people think in the media, and
(30:10):
of course you're supposed to in front of the media,
coaches take all the blame and they get all the
respect when they win. You make it never about yourself
in the good in the good way. If it's bad,
just take it as a coach. Hey, that's on me.
Don't worry about If he screwed up, that's on me.
That's on we didn't prep them well enough, we didn't
(30:31):
tell them, if we didn't put them incision to succeed,
that's on us, not on them. But then privately, that's
actually how people talk. Unacceptable. Look yourself at the mirror,
be a man, admit it, fix it. Let's move on.
Why could we play for you because we can't. That's
it for the in the Bonus podcast. Check out the
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