It’s Only A Big Deal Because It’s The Spurs

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You're listening to Fox Sports Boom, What Up America, Doug
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and then they'll be six, and then they'll be four.
And we'll be with you in San Antonio next Thursday,
next Friday. It is a great time of year for hoops. Uh.
Last night, the last night, the Cleveland Cavaliers surrendered what
was at seventy eight points in the first half. It

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seemed like a hundred and fifty points in the first half.
The Cleveland Cavaliers um seem to give up a bucket.
Excuse me, it was seventy nine points in the first half.
They give up seventy nine points in the first half
and win, and when, of course, they scored sixty eight

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of their own points in the second half, they come
from behind. Lebron James nearly perfect game, thirty five seven rebounds,
seventeen assists, and naria turnover. I'm only reading this outline
because I wanted to say, Naria turnover. That's the real reason. Toronto,
for lack of a lack of a better way to

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say it, they are who we thought they were, right like, Oh,
Toronto's new, Toronto's better, Toronto's in first place. Toronto had
two opportunities to opportunities to show that they were an
elite team in playoff caliber games, Cologne games as we
like to call them. Recently, they played the Thunder at home,

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gave up a hundred and thirty two. They gave They
played the Calves on the road, they gave up a
hundred and thirty two. The Raptors, in the words of
the late and I think pretty good, maybe even great
Danny Green are who we thought they were. But let's
get to the story of the day. In the NBA,

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Jim Jackson's gonna join us later on today, right, Jim
and Penny Hardaway is gonna join us later on today
as well. New head coach the Memphis Grizzlies. A meend
Memphis Grizzlies, Memphis Tigers, University of Memphis Tigers. Yeah, sources,
New Grizzlies head coach. We're also gonna take you to Cleveland,
take it to New York. Find out who the Browns

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are taking feels like Sam Donald. Find out who the
Jets are trading up for feels like Josh Rosen. But
there was apparently a players only meeting in San Antonio.
Here's the report from Adrian war Zanowski WOAJ from ESPN.

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Sources Spurs hold players only meeting, imploring Kawai Leonard to
return to the lineup. He goes on Spurs guard Tony Parker,
four time NBA champion and quarterback, and meeting after the
team's victory over Minnesota Saturday night. Non players would have
to leave the locker room, a stource told Michael C. Wright.
The conversation was described as tense and emotional at times.

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Several players spoke up, expressing their frustration and confusion, confusion
over the growing divide that has created significant tension between
Leonard and the Spurs. Outside the Spurs locker room, players
voices could be heard through the doors. Sources said Leonard
was resolute in his response, insisting that he had good
reason for sitting out all but nine games with the
right quad injury this season. Because of the meeting, the

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team did not conduct the usual postgame player interviews with
his broadcast partner. Leonard is a two time defensive Player
the Year YadA, YadA, YadA. He's eligible for two hundred
billion dollar contract extension this summer. He has impressed his
coaches and teammates and three on three, four on four,
and there's a belief that his rehabilitation was cycling towards

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returned to the court. Has targeted games in the past week,
only to decide he wasn't ready to return. League sources
said they got ten games left. Danny Green on his
Twitter account after agent Wargernowski Woae tweeted out Spurs held
of players only meeting imploring Kawhi Leonard to return to
the lineup, Danny Green said quote on his Twitter account

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couldn't be anymore incorrect. L o l uh so, that's fascinating.
Jabbari Young, anybody know wh Jabari Young is? Jabari Young
had this to say with with the with the San
Antonio Spurs. Actually, you know what, Let's first, this is

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what Monto gen Nobili said a couple of days ago.
He's not coming for me and he's not coming back
because he's he's not helping. We fell for it a
week ago. Again, I guess you guys made us fall
for it. But as I said, and maybe a month ago,
I don't know when he was. We we gotta think
that he's not coming back though we are who we are,
and that we gotta fight without camera. So yeah, I

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doubt shouldn't be changing at least till we he's ready
for the jumbil. So I generally think that while would
probably had the story, Remember Woulds was reporting on the
story based upon what a source told Michael C right right,
this is the game of telephone. They had a meeting.

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It was players only accurate. Guys were asking questions about Kauai,
whether it was healthy, probably accurate. It was tense, you know,
it's all what your definition of what is is. It
was tense, It was it tends for a regular conversation.
Was it tends for a basketball conversation in a locker room?

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Guys talk to each other far differently, And I'm guessing
that part of the issue is Kauai probably wondering why
Mono said what he said. I'm guessing the players wondering
why it's been reported one way and portrayed differently. Guys

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trying to all get their stories straight and figure out
what what's what and quite is just not a verbal guy.
But the reason I think this is so interesting is
not just Kawhi Leonard, who is arguably the third best
player in the league behind Lebron and Kevin Durant and
what people will say is best two way player in
the league. On the other hand, Durant has become one

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of the better two way might be the defensive player
of the Year this year. What what what This jumps
out to me as look, if it was Cleveland, you
would nodre ahead and go. As Lebron his teams have drama, right,
if it was the Lakers, should go. It's a young
l a team. Even if it was the Rockets, a

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team that's been super successful, you scratch your head because
they've been winning a bunch of games and you're like,
you know what, that's Chris Paul trying to get that
team lined out for the playoffs. There's a certain fascination
I was I played my first professional uh my, my
first professional team I played with It was in Russia.
And Russia has been open since you know, the early

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to mid nineties, since Paristroika. But there's always a fascination
with Russia, Like even now you feel like I remember
I lived there in two thousand one. I lived in
a surgeon called you'd call it Perm, they call it
pet him p e r M. From the base Theaterol mountains.
It's like the gateway to Siberia, if you will. And

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uh it's the actually the second largest city in Russia,
but no one knows that exists because even during Paris
Roika it was a closed city because one of the
big it was a big military city where they made weapons.
Have you ever watched Dr Givago that's based in shot
partly in Perm? Anyway, everywhere I went I was fascinated

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by because even though it's still you know, really outside
of Moscow, it's the third world country. You know, we
have the World Cup, obviously come me on Fox Sports one.
There's still a fascination of Russia because there's just so
much we don't know, and we don't here and our
only the only thing you think of with Russia now

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is either the Soviet Union from back when we were kids,
Red Square or Vladimir Putin. That's it. There's this is
incredibly huge, the biggest in terms of land, biggest country
in the world, I believe still and yet there's so
much stuff we don't know because we couldn't find out
information for most of our lifetime. Now we can, but

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either we don't have access, or we don't really care,
or there's not kind of a reason for it. So
even though Russia is just another country and in many
ways it has some of the same and some of
the same and bigger problems of all the other countries,
there's some good, there's some bad. There's some incredible wealth

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and some incredible poverty. Because we don't know anything about
on it, it's far more fascinating then say, I don't
know country like Denmark, Norway or even England one that
our our history is tied to. In the NFL, I
think the reason that the Patriots seem like more of

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a dumpster fire than previously is we never all these
stories that have come out about the Patriots, the dysfunction
with it. We just couldn't get information from them from
for fifteen years, like Lebron has been given us. We've
been getting snippets of drama from Lebron forever. In the NFL,
we've been getting snippets of drama from the Dallas Cowboys forever.
We get it from New England. Now we're really interested.

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We get it from the Spurs were really interested. We
get it from Kawhi Leonard, really really interested, because otherwise,
like I don't players only meeting for telling, imploring a
player who is hurt but maybe not injured to play
late in the season, trying to clear things up. They

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don't show up for media stuff. They're trying to iron
out differences, all get their stories straight. Like all of
that is great. It's only really interesting because it's the
Spurs and because it's Kauai right, which is much like
the Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft story. Sure,
all of these teams that have I'm I'm interested in

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In New Orleans, you know Drew Brees signs for less
than market value. What were those conversations, Like, how tied
to Drew Brees is his head coach Sean Payton? How
does that work with ownership? Do they all get along?
I'm fascinated by what ownership thought of Alex Smith when
he was treated from Kansas City. Like all of these

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relationships between the owner or the owner's family and the
quarterback is really interesting. But it's more interesting not just
because the Patriots win but because we haven't gotten information
for the Patriots forever. That's why the Spurs conversation is
so interesting. My guest, though, is it's far less sinister

(11:11):
than it reads it because this is probably how you
read it. All the Spurs are pissed because they think
he's healthy and they want to know why he's not playing. Right,
That's what it sounds like. That's what it feels like.
Players only meeting. They're shouting. There's yelling why aren't you playing?
You're healthy, I'm out there beaten, when it's probably hey,

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can we just talk this thing out? Are you hurt?
Are you injured? Are you mad? How much of it
this is your contract? How much of this is what
Pop said? Is any of it with man who said, like,
let's just figure it out? And I know that we
think all these players hang out around each other, they
live near each other, they're best friends with one another.

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But that's likely not the case here and the best
way to do so. One of the one of the
things about playing on the road is it allows you
to cut through it and cut out any middleman in
conversation and just ask Kawhi Leonard, like, what are you
gonna come back? This year. What do you want us
to say? How can we protect you and not make
you look bad? On the other hand, tell the world

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we want to see you on a basketball court. Danny
Green says it couldn't be anymore incorrect, but Adrian wa
Zanowski's the the tweet was players held players only meeting
imploring Kawhi Leonard to return to the lineup. It's possible
they held a players only meeting that was part of

(12:40):
what was discussed, but maybe it's a bigger frustration and
preparation for the playoffs. We're gonna ask Jim Jackson he's
going to join the show come next. When you're dealing
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two because we've seen a thing or two. We are
Jim Jackson played for twelve teams in the NBA, none
of them the Spurs. I'll ask him on about Kauai
Leonard when the nighty thinks he can come back and
play and shut short or and get ready for the playoffs,
plus will preview tonight's Sweet sixteen games. That's next in

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Doug Gotlic Show, Fox Sports Radio. Jim Jackson usually caused
the players only meetings, right, he didn't just attend I'm kidding.

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Jim Jackson a former college, high school, college superstar and um.
Of course you see him on Fox Sports one and
played the lottery pick number three pick in the NBA draft.
Of course played for twelve different teams in the NBA.
Who has a greater sen for teams in and the
old players only meeting then Jim Jackson, he joined us
now on the dougo j j I want to get

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to college basketball Sweet sixteen a moment. But Kauai has
only played nine games this year, and there's various reports
about players only meeting, which guys are trying to figure
out why he wasn't playing. What what's your sense of
exactly what's going on in San Antonio. It's the same thing.
It's kind of weird because this is kind of out
of character in regards to what we've heard. You You've

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been around us a long time, Dougy with how many
times if we heard San Antonio having a players only
meeting ever, you know what I mean. So it's kind
of uncharted territory in regards to in the circles. Maybe
they didn't had some before, we didn't. It just hasn't
come out. But it's kind of a delicate situation because
Kauai is so quiet, we never really get a cent

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to what he's thinking. And if this is the case
in regards to Kauai and the stalemate with the Spurs,
and there's a lot more to his injury in regards
to his ability to play, because I don't think as players,
if you know a guy's hurting injured and can't was

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injured and can't play, you don't have a meeting to
implore him to come back on the team or get
back in the mix in fear that that may you know,
endanger him, you know, long term. So that just indicates
to me that something else is going on in regards
to his injury, and it may not be as serious

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um as what it was, but it may be some
some conflicts between Kauai and upper and management. Right, so
I feel like you hear players only meeting and because
the spurs, because it's Kauai, we freak out because we
don't we get no information from them and the church
and the truth might be a little bit less sinister
than players because as you know, like one of the

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things that players never do, like guys never talked about
somebody else's money, right, I'll never you stay away from
what their their personal relationships, right Unlet's like not not
in front of the team, like that's not your deal.
And you never question at least I've never questioned whether
somebody's hurt or not. It feels like it's more realistic
to say, like, hey, just tell us what's going on

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so that we can answer the questions properly and we
can we can fight for you in the media without
maybe on the other hand, we want you to play
like is it is it kind of a clearing of
the air, but in a less sinister way in which
is presented from the media. Is that fair? Well? I
would like to say that the players sincerely want to

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know what's going on. To hear from Kauai because I
don't you know that. The figure is what's the dynamics
of the players relationship on the team, who's closer to Kauai,
who has his ear, who does he talk to? We
we just don't really know that, you know what I mean.
So obviously the team, the teammates are getting mixed signals
from somewhere on his availability. And that's that's the tricky

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part here, because when you have teammates that they've been around,
they've been together for quite some time, so they know
each other, especially Parker and Genoblie. With Kauai, Okay, they
know each other, so it's something there for them to
have to do it, and it's a trust thing to do.
They are they the Kauai led on to somebody that

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the reason why he's not playing has to do with
more than the injury. And I tend to look at
things a little bit differently just because I've been in
those locked rooms before, because if a guy has hurt,
you know, a guy's hurting, the guy's injury, you know it.
He's gonna tell you. But I can't play, I can't go.
This is what's going on. But if there's a question
about it, then that tends to leave me. That is
more to this than just the injury. And that's the

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that's the tricky part. Jim Jackson joining us in the
Dougallin Show, Fox Sports Radio. I want to believe in Toronto,
I swear to you, Jim, I do. I do. But then, um,
a hundred thirty two given up last night, hundred thirty
two given up in the gutel O Glooma City. Those
are both playoff caliber games and in both cases they

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couldn't get stops. And like, look, I like that they're
moving the ball more. I like their talent. I like
DeMar De Rosen seemingly taking his game to the next level,
to to maybe superstar caliber level. I like a lot
of those things. But you can't give up a hundred
and thirty two to both the Thunder and the Calves
and lose both those games, and me take you seriously,
Yeah no. And here's the thing. I was listening to

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Colin earlier today, and Colin made a great point, okay,
in regards to playoff basketball, situational basketball, and you need
to have superstar And that's true because I always look
at it like this, though it's not like the n
C double A where it's a one game scenario, it's
some stuff hits the fan. Uh lord, I mean an

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underdog team can win in the seven games. Serious, it's
about making a US meant within the game, but also
going into the next game. It's also being relatively healthy.
It's also being strategic. To me coaching, I look like
coaching like this in the NBA during the regular season,
you're coaching minutes, you're coaching um, injuries and health, and

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you're coaching egos to kind of keep all those in
line so you can get to the playoffs in the
prime position. Where now the coaching, the strategic part of
it really comes out. I mean, look, I'm gonna run
that again again, say that one more time. So in
the regular season, you're coaching minutes, injuries, injury, egos, and

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that's that's what you're doing in the regular season. Now
what you because you have so many dynamics going on
and so many things with injuries and how you've manipulate
the line of this guy feels he needs to play
my my my main guy may be heard and it
may when does the injury happen? How do I, uh
game plan for not having maybe my core group for

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ten games all that stuff, But once you get in
the playoffs, man, it's I'm drilling in on what's the
four or five go to play that this team really
loves to do. How can we make adjustments offensivity? And
that's the difference. Now, who do you have that can
execute these our game playing the best? See does everybody

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wants to emulate Golden State? Right, shoot the three ball,
getting multiple guys to handle. But what they're missing and people,
really you know this because you played at a high
level in this maybe not the most athletics, but here's
what you had. And a lot of players Golden State
high i Q. So you got eight or nine guys
on that team you're starting, four or five have high

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i Q. So when you go to your bench, okay,
you've got three more guys in Igua Dollar, David West
and also Sean Livingston. They got high i Q. So
what do you lose from that? You may lose athleticism,
but you don't lose the field for the game and
how to execute and place. So if you put a
swaggy p um or other guys out there that maybe
don't understand the game as much. Veil McGee but you

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balanced that because you have three other guys to understand
how to play basketbat is so tough to beat and
to boot. You have Steve Kerr. So with Toronto, look
at it, they've been proved so much. But when you're
playing against Cleveland High, I Q, Lebrons ain't off the chart. Okay,
Kevin Um you talk about you may lose Kyrie, but

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when you have a guy that's won before, like Kevin loved,
they don't give him enough credit about how he plays.
So we saw last night of State in the game
with with Lebron like, hey, I'm still the best player
in the world and we're still the favorites to the knees.
Why do you you think he's played better since ty Lewis
has stepped away? Do you think you played better? But

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you know, you know what, don't know the thing. Let's
go back about a month though, he's been trending towards
this for about a month though, think about how he's played. Okay,
I think he's really been sending a message. Okay, you
want to talk hard m v P. That's fine. Let
me show you. Oh, Toronto is the best team. Yeah,
I got the number one tea but remember we get

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the Boston last year when they had the number one
seed late this season were blue the doors off of them.
So let me just show you, just to quiet things
down a little bit. How do you have thirty six
seventeen and you no no, no, no turnovers, no turns,
I mean, I mean no turnovers do that? Don't know?
I don't know. I don't understand. Like I do. I

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knew his shooting would get better, because everybody shoots better
the older they get. I just didn't know he'd be
able to maintain this level of athleticism and his body,
his body not breakdown. Bro. It's it's incredible, It's it's
really Can you hang for a minute, okay? Cool? Make sure,
by the way, you check out Jim's new show on
Fox Sports Radio every Sunday alongside Mark Willard three to

(23:04):
six Eastern time, So you get Tough Juice, you get
you get who's hosting with Tough Choose with Karen Butler,
Chris Mannix and Butler, and then you get Jim Jackson
and Mark Willard. Like that's that's not six hours great
radio on Sundays. I don't know. And by the way,
um so I guess Jim, you're confirmed you're gonna join

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me next Wednesday? Oh, no doubt. All right, it's early.
It's like I know you like to smoke cigars late
at night in in really really nice places that I
can't afford to get into. That's that's six am East
Coast time. And that's all right. I have my big
boys who have his R and B boys going. Jim
and I gonna fill in on the Dan Patrick Show

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next week next Wednesday on Fox Sports Radio. Let me
find out what else is going on in the world sports.
Here's Dan Byer and the last Jim about the Sweet sixteen?
What you got d Yeah, sweet six scenes and I
had a double dose in Atlanta in l A. But
there's other college troops news. Dan Hurley leaving Rhode Island
to be the next head coach at Yukon. Reports say
he'll get a six year deal to coach the Huskies. Well.
The Louisville Courier Journal says Xavier coach Chris Mack will

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meet with Louisville officials on Saturday about the school's coaching vacancy.
Box forward, you honest and did a coombo doubtful to
play tomorrow against the Bulls because of a springed ankle
suffered and last night's lost to the Clippers. Hornet center
Dwight Howard has been suspended for Tonight's game against Memphis
after picking up his sixteen technical of the season. Wait,
so he had a thirty for thirty thirty rebounds, thirty points,

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thirty rebounds and then he can't play the next game?
That is correct? That is correct, although maybe he's like
most of us and would want to miss Hornet's Grizzlies um.
The Giants traded defense eve end Jason Pierre Paul to
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Giants sent jpp In a fourth
rounder to Tampa for a third round pick and a
fourth round pick and Engulf. I know something that's goes
to Jim's heart as well. Jordan Speeth won his Day

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two match at the match Play Championships Tony Romo five
over par seventy seven, playing at the Corralis Championship in
the Dominican Republican five of the par And what is
He's not gonna make the cut? Is he? No? That that?
That would have been magnificent miracle if he did, But no,
he's not. Is he in last place? Well, you know what,

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I was gonna save it for game time, but he's
not in last place. So Jim Jackson continues to join us.
Check him out Sundays on Fox Sports Radio. Let me
let me ask you about about tonight. Let's start with Kentucky. Um,
what's your reaction to Kentucky's resurgence and the fact that
I mean, like, look, he complained about their seed. They
get a twelve and a thirteen and now Kansas State

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and the winner of Nevada and and loyal, I mean,
the highest seat might plays a seven to go to
a Final four, but they're playing better basketball. What's your
thoughts on what cal has been able to do there? Well, listen,
they were young, I thought from a point guard perspective perspective,
it just wasn't there at the beginning of the season.
Young guys have figured and you think about what Kentucky

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played their best basketball from a point guard perspective, they
were solid to two, really good, and that kind of
drove them when you don't have the right guys running
the ship at the time in regards to understanding how
the player is gonna happen what you do. But I
always said that this team was long athletic, and they
were going to be a better team at the end

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of the year than they were at the beginning. And
Cal has done that in the past. So it's one
of those dangerous teams that you hate to see in
one game scenario. But to boot, they put themselves in
a position by winning a lot like Duke okay um
when you have some questions maybe at times, but because
those other teams dropped up. Now they're the teams that
you look at, blue bloods that you thought maybe wouldn't

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be there, they're there, you know. So it's it's it's
it's incredible with if you just take care of your business,
especially in today's world, that you can put yourself in
the position to be able to get to potential final
for the national championship game. But they're I love them.
They're long athletic, they can play cow. Cow's gonna happen ready, Yeah,

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I just I don't know if they can shoot man,
And I know, right, and I think Kansas State, now
you're stepping up in weight class and I know they
Kan State only at a nine C. I thought they
were underseated. Um, but you know, big thing is this
this case they have to Dean Wade. If they do
Dean Wades a face up for all league player in
the Big twelve, good player, That's gonna be a fascinating game. Um,
let's let's let's go to Michigan. You did a ton

(27:19):
of Big ten games, and let's be honest, Michigan was
beaten by Houston. Houston makes uh. Devin Davis makes uh
any of his he had he missed three free throws
in row to when the game was essentially done. And
this is a different story. But we know how they
play four out, one in, and Mr Wagner has not
played great in the n c A tournament. After the

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week and a half off. They're playing against Texas A
and M, who's got a tremendous front line. But I
don't I don't know how they'll guard Michigan. What are
your thoughts on Michigan and A and M. Well that
practice yesterday because I'm calling the game tonight, both games
here in l A. And the challenge is gonna beat
us for Texas dating and because you have big can
they guard on the perimeter and staying gay because as

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you know, with the multiple movements to pour in one
out for Michigan. They're going to make you have to
think the game and really react to a lot of downscreens, picks,
misdirection plays, especially for a post player, and that's a
little bit more challenging. Plus, I think Michigan the advantage
they have, they end up pulling those bigs um Tyler

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Davis and Robert Williams away from the basket. So you've
got something. You've got some offensive rebound opportunity. But talking
to Billy Kennedy said, sometimes we can play small and
match up. So it's gonna be interesting. Is there their
attention to detail in regards to what they're doing game
planning wise, how those bigs react. Because Michigan, I'm gonna
give you this, Douggie, you don't get credit for their defense.

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They're playing pretty good defense. They went up against some teams,
okay from a side perspective during the tournament, and they
competed where they only give up eight nine offensive rebound
the last two or three games. So their rebounding ball
the ball to ire rad during the tournament defensively, so
I think that bodes well from Michigan. That's that's that's

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fascat Florida State Gonzaga your other game tonight. Look, the
Zags have obviously been here four times in a row
in the streets team, but this is a this is
a new Gonzaga team against the Florida State team that
was also dead to right spating, but one that when
they walk on the floor, like if the two teams
in the lamp lines, you you pick Florida State. Um,
but Gonzaga has you know, found a way culture wise

(29:28):
and just making enough shots. Who do you like in
that matchup? Well, two things. Talking to March for you,
this is what he said. He said, we're a different
team than last year because now we had traditional post
up players. But now what we're doing with Jonathan Williams
and Accrue, they're more face up. Okay, so the offense
is totally different. Okay, so they're playing better. They don't
have the super superstar that they had in the past,

(29:50):
but this group is different. They rely on two, three
or four guys to kind of get it done. The
challenge is gonna be talking to Hamilton's can with disaster
gonna face. Is this then a Hamil him to tell you, listen,
our top seven guys teams are better. Our top seven
guys versus their top seven, but our top eleven to
their eleven we got. And what he means by that

(30:12):
is that he got eighteen guys on the team. Have
you seen eighteen guys on the team he plays eleven.
So they're gonna press and try to wear you down
and try to keep the game close, that you wear
it down that they can win it in the end.
And he's comfortable doing that. So the Zags have had
problems turning the ball over against pressure. Will they be
able to handle that? There was ways the bodies, fresh

(30:34):
bodies coming at them in order to I think extending
the lead. So it's not within a one or two
possession game going down the stretch because that may not
bowl well for them from a mental perspective, but the
physical perspective. And in my favorite Florida State uh, Penny
Hardway's coach in Memphis obviously went and coaching high school

(30:55):
coaching high schoolball, and Penny, if you've ever spent any
time with him, he's super bright and um, I think
he'll obviously be great with the kids and anybody who's
a mentor and au coach. We all grew up watching
Penny bequest the ads were really good. I don't see
it as nearly as big a challenge as some people do.
What's your thoughts on Penny and whether or not it's

(31:17):
a huge challenge for him to be successful as a
college basketball coach. Well, first, it's it's a lot of
pressure and weight. I don't think he realized it yet
because he's from Memphis. He's a hero to Memphis. He
played at Memphis State, he coached um their high school
was au program. So what they're expecting, their expectation that's

(31:41):
gonna be I think the initial part of of how
he impacted early on, what are the expectations for the
program where a coach who hasn't coached in college, who
hasn't gone on recruited, who hasn't strategized, who hasn't game plan,
What is the time frame that we're looking to have

(32:02):
in order for the program to grow those expectations that
you are so important because no matter how great Penny
Hardaway is as a player and as a person and
as a high school coach, you know and I know,
coming into college, this is a this is a period
situation where it takes a little bit of time, especially
from an inexperienced coach to be able to come in,

(32:23):
So what are your expectations as a program? You know,
that's to me is going to be the key to
the timeline on their patients to kind of get Memphis
back on the map. You know, they're thinking that a
penny will be to go right in and get all
the Memphis players. But that's not necessarily true. That's you know,
that's not necessarily true. So what are the expectations? And

(32:47):
I think he could be great there, but they got
to give him a chance to really build this program
the way he wants to, but also have some realistic
expect expectations the first one of three years. Yeah, no, listen,
I think it's totally fair. I do think that it
brings energy back. I think the most interesting thing is, yes,
you can get all the guys from Memphis, do you

(33:09):
want them all? And and then the other part is like,
just because guys all grow up in the same hometown
doesn't mean they all like each other, you know, or
want to play dude. So sometimes you will take one
and that means you can't get another, Like, well, what
what what happened? Like? I thought you guys are boys?
Like yeah, I don't really want to. It doesn't mean
I want to play in college with him. So it's
a it's a little bit of a minefield there. But
I do think I I think it's the little things

(33:31):
outside of the coaching that make it harder. The actual
ball coaching. I kind of think that stuff you can
do pretty well with a little bit of help. It's
gonna be fascinating to watch. Go ahead, But think about this.
If you're a people say you want to listen. I
love to teach. I love the game. But most of
coaching college coaches is on the court. The rest of

(33:52):
the stuff is can you deal with the alumni? Can
you deal with the administration? Can you deal with recruiting?
A you the parents to handlers? Ready to get that
three o'clock in the morning phone called us something that's happened.
That's the crux of coaching a lot of times, the
on the court stuff and gott to tell you, man,
I love it as easy. It's the other stuff that

(34:13):
if you haven't been in that situation now you're dealing
with can you really handle that part of it and
still grow the program? That's that's also gonna be the
channel great stuff. J J and enjoy the call tonight
on Westwood One. That's Jim Jackson. You see you on
Fox Sports one. You'll hear him next week hosted with
Me and the Dan Patrick Show, and weekends on Fox
Sports Radio three to six Eastern Time. Who want pal

(34:34):
Mark Willard j J. Thanks so much? All right, that's
Jim Jackson, who will be calling the games to night
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Radio m H fascinating UH college basketball games tonight. Really

(35:40):
interesting stuff going on in UH in the NBA. And
of course Johnny Menzel throwing it showing up at pro
day at us D University San Diego. That's just weird. Yeah,
I went down to us d's Pro day. Who who's
down there, like Johnny Manziel, Like, okay, okay, sure this

(36:02):
is game time. Side on the Doug Gottlieb Show. You
have to get to Hooters and try these new smoke wings.
It's a whole new way to crave wings. I'm craving them.
Are you craving them? John, I'm craving them. Of course
we are craving them. I haven't had them, but I'm
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many at Hooters. Buyer, Dan, buyer, what he got? My friend? Today?

(36:25):
We have got guess alright, Doug, Guess who is a
future Hall of Famer that just signed with the Miami Dolphins.
Future Hall of Famer Miami Dolphins, Future Hall of Famer,
Miami Dolphins future I don't know. Frank Gore running back
who I believe is destined for Canton and there's no
way you can't get it. And you know he uh

(36:49):
played for Miami, right you ever see Miami like he's
he's been over there. He's supposedly been over the hill
for like the last five years and he still is
a productive although now I think he's a ficially over
the hill. Yes, Frank Gore will be in the Hall
of Fame. Should he be though, Um, yeah, I think so.

(37:09):
I think that there are I think that the bar
of what Frank Gore has done it he has passed
the bar set by other running backs that maybe shouldn't
have gotten in. Was he ever the best running back
in the league? No, then there's your answer. Now that
was Jerome Bettis. I look again, I'm not disagreed, like
this is the thing you're doing. You're doing the well,

(37:30):
there's guys that he's had a better career than they're
in the Hall of Fame. I'm not going to dispute
that with you. I'm not because you're gonna win that
argument every single time. My argument is just because we
made a past mistake on get letting a guy in.
Because you know, Jerome betisis from Detroit' not sure if
you guys wear that? Yeah? Yeah, and they play in
the Detroit Super Bowl. Huh about that? Which he almost
he bumbles and almost cost him the Super anyway. Um,

(37:53):
but I think he's one of these. He's been good
for a long time. Was never great, but yes, he'll
be in the the thing. Guess who Doug was supposed
to be a part of Kyle Shanahan's master plan in
rebuilding the San Francisco forty Niners. Kirk Cousins. Yes, that
is the case, not as g M John Lynch told

(38:14):
ESPN that Shanahan was actually in morning early after the
team traded for Jimmy Garoppolo because they knew that they
wouldn't be able to trade for Cousins anymore and also
wouldn't be signing him in free agency. Remember he was
in d C with Redskins when they drafted Kirk Cousins.
Work with Kirk Cousins liked him a whole lot better
than r G three. Guess who Doug is not expected
to return from injury to play the Sweet Sixteen. Not

(38:38):
expected to return Isaac Hast Yeah. CBS Sports reports that
Hass was able to practice today, but the team doesn't
expect him to go tomorrow against Texas Tech with a
fractured elbow. In fact, Doug, a little video clip was
um put on by Yeah Ellie La Force year old
co worker and Isaac cost was throwing a pass with
his left hand with right hand, no this left hand?

(39:00):
Oh yea. By the way, happy birthday to Joe Smith
of the Houston Astros, husband to one Ali Force. Alright,
happy birthday. Maybe maybe a gift will be in the future.
Guests who received an edible arrangement thanks to getting one
of the top athletes in the world back on track.
So this person received a gift for helping a top

(39:21):
athlete get back into form. I don't have no idea. Um,
give me a hint, um engulf oh tag Woods. His
back surgeon, Dr Richard Geyer of the Texas Back Institute
received an edible arrangement bouquet from Claire Rodgers, a twenty
three year old Boston College student who sent the fruits

(39:42):
bouquet bouque after watching Tiger compete in the Arnold Plumber.
I'm okay with that, honestly, like does edible arrangements are
delicious and you can need to eat the hell out
of him, not feel like you get like, uh, you know,
like you get something else. There's so many the other
things that are bad for you in this world. Do
you buy the dark chocolate is really good for you?
I get an entire dark chocolate bar the other day

(40:03):
and I'm told that it has anti oxidants and it's
kind of good for you. You buy that? Hey, I'll
believe anything to eat more of it. Backing out there
and pressed that there is game time on the Duck
Gottlieb Show. It helps that I love Ramos so much,

(40:23):
just helps so much. The process is almost complete. But
before Philadelphia goes crazy patting themselves in the back, there's
something that's been patting their stats. I'll tell you next
in the Doug Gotlip Show. What up, Doug Gottlieb Show,

(40:50):
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(41:13):
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I'll be hosting Cowherd show tomorrow defending his honor right now. So,

(41:36):
last night Joel Embi took to Twitter and called Calin
Colin cowherd. Uh Colin coward calling coward? Uh that's because
that's because um, Colin did not think they would win
forty games and that was the over under this year

(41:59):
in Vegas for the Philadelphia seventies Sixers. The Sixers have
in fact won forty games, exactly forty games. Now they
have twelve to play, so it stands a reason they'll
hit the over right. Congratulations to you, Philadelphia. You have

(42:19):
proven so many wrong. I guess and Colin sucked it up.
And um, did he ever actually get the right size jersey?
When I was listening, they'd send him a sh medium
and uh, he's not exactly built, but he is tall,
so a medium jersey won't do. Did eventually find a
size large? I don't know about the sizing, but at

(42:40):
some point he was wearing a jersey. And so this
is what we do is is you make a prediction
over under. He says under. For the seventy sixers, they
tie the over. Still haven't hit the over, but stands
a reason after winning four in a row, they'll hit
the over. And he's all called all kinds of names
because somehow he doesn't get it. But does anybody actually

(43:05):
know what's going on in the NBA. I'm not sitting
here telling you that the process isn't getting closer and
closer to completion. But before we hurt ourselves patting ourselves
on the back, let's remember what's going on in the
Eastern Conference. Maybe even more than anything, let's remember what's

(43:28):
going on in the bottom of the NBA. Teams are
tanking at a remarkable rate ralmost do you know a
many games the Memphis Grizzlies one in the month of February. February,
I would say four. If I said less than four,
Dan Buyer, would you go over under on four in February?

(43:50):
I would probably go under because I know it was
a rough month, rough month. How rough a month was it?
I would say, I would say one game. What if
I said less than one game zero. Now, look, they
were helped out because there's an All Star break there, right,
helped because there's an All Star breaks. You didn't play

(44:11):
every every week. Um, but just pull it up and
look look at the month of February and you're like,
they didn't win a single game. Matter of fact, they've
only won one game since the All Star Break. That
was last Saturday. They somehow beat the Denver Nuggets at home.
Other than that, their last win was January twenty nine,

(44:35):
So forgive me, and and look, they're not the only team.
Can you name an Atlanta Hawks? And the Hawks just
won a game after losing their previous seven. And I'm
not sure if you guys know what the Hawks are doing.
The Hawks are quite clever about this. They're signing guys
that no one has ever heard of and putting them
on ten day contracts and then playing them at the

(44:56):
end of games. Now, when they beat the Jazz, they
let Dennis Reuter play most of the game and he
had forty one Can you name another Atlanta Hawks starter?
I'm gonna go with you, Dan Buyer, who Dan, you
know a ton about the NBA. You probably know more
about the personnelity NBA than anybody else in this room.

(45:17):
Can you name another Atlanta Hawks starter? Oh gosh, no,
I can't. I want to take a shot at it.
Their Ryme music I'm gonna go with. I can't. I
can't even think of one. Cephalosha Does he even play
there anymore? Well, he's not currently playing there. No. He.

(45:38):
I believe he's with the Utah Jazz. Um Thabo is,
but I don't think he's even playing there. Um they're
starting lineup in their win against the Jazz was Mike Muscala.
That's U. He went to buck Now borderline NBA guy
Tory and Prince former first round draft pick of the
Baylor Uh. DeMarcus said, what's the name DeMarcus Dedmond? It's

(46:00):
Dwayne Dedmond played at USC a couple of years ago.
Dwyne Demond, Dennis Shrewder and Damien Lee. Who Damian Lee?
I think was that m was at Louisville. He was
at Little South and at Louisville. Yeah, that's their starting lineup.
That's that's kind of my point, like they're starting a
borderline dly. I got a D league roster in the NBA,

(46:23):
and so I guess here, let me just get around
this really quickly. The seventy sixers are getting better, not
not denying that, and them hitting the over proves a
lot of us wrong. They're seventeen and twenty three against
playoff teams, which is not terrible but also not great.
They're twenty three and seven against lottery teams there and

(46:45):
seven one no against the Hawks, one on one against
the grizz two and one against the Bulls, two and
one against the Nets. The Philadelphia seventies sixers benefit from
the fact that half the teams in the East are
trying to be bad and they're no longer one of
those teams. And actually, while that will sound like a

(47:06):
slight at their forty wins, the truth is it's kind
of out of respect for what they've been able to do.
The league sees the talent that they've been able to
acquire by tanking for three or four years, and like,
we need to do that. And what do they say
about imitation. It's the most sincere form of flattery. And
that's what Orlando is doing, and that's what the Hawks

(47:27):
are doing, and that's what the Bulls are doing. And frankly,
now that the Hornets, you know, are a playoff team
and their coach was sick, and their mess and they
they're trying to they were trying to think about trading
Kemba Walker. They've decided the hell with it. It's better
off being really bad then being competitive. They've tried to
tank to get into that bottom rung of of teams.

(47:51):
The King's three, the Mavericks, the Grizzlies nineteen, the Son's nineteen,
the Hawks t one, the Magic one, the Nets three,
the Bulls twenty four, and the Knicks. That's how many
wins they have on the year. So forgive me if
I don't do backflips over the Philadelphia seventis and tell

(48:13):
you they're the greatest team of all time. Good talented,
and you know what, they'll have a shot at landing
some more talented free agents because they overpaid for J. J.
Reddick for one year, so they keep that cap space.
But they're also benefiting greatly from Tanka Palooza. That's what
I think. Bill some Simmons calls it massive widespread tanking

(48:36):
that hasn't gotten better because they've adjusted the lottery, it's
actually gotten worse. And while that sounds like a slight
at the Philadelphia seventy six. The fact is that when
everyone at the bottom of the league, everyone at the
bottom of the league is copying what the seventies sixers did.

(48:57):
That's the most sincere form of flattery. Yeah, we don't
think you're great now, but we think what you did
was a great idea, So we're gonna copy alright. Coming
up next. He was a lottery pick. He's from Memphis.
He's coached uh in a U ball, he is coaching
high school ball, and now he's come back home to

(49:20):
what's now the University of Memphis was Memphis State when
he played there. Penny Hardaway is the new head coach
the Memphis Tigers. About seven years ago, I shared a
plane ride with Penny's that across from him. He was
he got too. He was part of Memphis basketball program
as a mentor, and I think they beat you Mass

(49:41):
in Boston Garden and then I flew home with I
flew with them to Memphis, caught a flight to Dallas.
The not to why I spent a couple of hours
with him. I found him to be a fasting where
the interesting guy has a super high basketball like you,
also great interpersonal skills. I'm gonna ask him about the
challenges to it and and when this became a reality,

(50:02):
because it was rumored as such before Tubby ever got fired.
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there there's um. I said this last year, Um, when

(51:56):
the Oaklahoma stage job was open, that it is. Recruiting
is a about telling a story, right, Let me tell
you a story. But the next one to five years
is gonna be like and then what your life is
going to be like after you go to the school
that I'm working for. Most coaches coach at places that
they didn't go and most of a good number of

(52:18):
them didn't experience bastball at the level of which they're coaching.
So you're still telling somebody else's story. There's a difference
when it's you're Alva matter and then you double down
on the fact that you were, in fact a star
and you're from that town. That's what Penny Hardaway is
gonna be able to tell. He's not telling somebody else's story.
He's gonna say, I grew up in Memphis, I was you,

(52:41):
I played at Memphis, I played in the NBA. I've
accomplished everything you could ever dream of accomplishing, and that
some things you could never even fathom doing. So if
you want to know what it's like or gonna be like,
other people can tell you. But I actually lived it,
that's the that's the that's the sale, I would guess,

(53:01):
And so look I didn't. I thought two years was
too short a tenure for Tubby Smith, but it was
still an odd fit for Tubby at this point in
time in his career to be coaching in Memphis. But
once I heard the idea of Penny and I understood
what he was gonna do, or what I thought he
was gonna do, I was like, no, my my years
are perked up. Let's hear from him ourselves and find

(53:26):
out what his vision is, what he thinks is realistic
and some of the challenges in coaching at Memphis being
from Memphis, having coached high school basketball and AU basketball Memphis.
Penny Hardaway joins this new head coach of University of
Memphis on the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio.
How you doing, man, I'm loving good? Okay. So, um, look,

(53:48):
it was leaked out as a possibility a couple of
weeks ago. When did this become When did the rumors
become really kind of tangible to which you started to
go like, Okay, this is gonna happen. Oh you know, like, um,
maybe a couple of days when they think that they
were that coach wouldn't gonna be retained. After that, I

(54:08):
knew it's gonna be a reality. It was really unfair
to coach Smith for them to kind of, I know,
the media has to do their job, but to to
broadcast that out there like that before the conference tournament
even came about. But I just I knew, like maybe
like a day day after day before he was he
was getting fired and I was gonna be coming in
and I was super excited for me kind of said

(54:31):
to him and his stuff because as like you said,
it was only a two run. So so when you
you come in to do the interview, what was the
you know, did you did you line it out for
them this is how it's gonna be. Did you simply
answer questions? How did you approach the Q and A
the interview with them? No? They really just asked what
was I dedicated to doing this? They didn't have any

(54:54):
questions that I could turn to, you know, the program
around that I could do some things that they knew
that I could do. That Basically all they want to
know was am I willing to put my legacy that
I've had here in Memphis? People love me here. I'm
born and raised here. I played here on the line
because it could be an ugly game when you're coaching
and you're not winning, and how the fans and how
the media you know, looks at you. UM could have

(55:16):
handled that part and could have handled the media side
of it, could have handled the um the ants and
outs of what comes along with the job, with the ambassadors,
with the boosters, with all the appearances. And I told
me yes, and that's basically all I had to do
was tell them that I was all in and they
were fine with that. You know, It's it's interesting because

(55:36):
that's the it's the Tony Bennett said this last week
when they got beat University of Virginia. He was like, look,
I told our guys, you haven't time you entered the arena.
Everybody thinks of the great things, but the bad things
can happen to this even more so, like you are
a legend, you are a deity, you are a I've
I've been to Memphis games when you're there and everybody
stops and everybody wants to talk to you. I mean,

(55:57):
but have you really had that thought, like what if
it goes really bad? Dude? No, I'm not worriedt that way.
I know that things can't happen, but we won't wallow
in the sorrow, you know, And I know things can.
You can have a tough loss and then they could
kind of be bad around the town until the next game,
because I did that in the NBA. You have a
tough loss. The next day, you look at the paper,
You're like, oh man, this is this is not good,

(56:19):
and you're stilling down into the next game. But I've
never I don't come in with that attitude. I come
in with a window's heart. I winer his mindset, a
winder's attitude that we're gonna be successful and we're gonna
have some bumps, but the bumps aren't gonna linger. We're
gonna smooth it back out and keep rolling. You know,
people forget you were a prop for that. Your first
year you couldn't practice team, you couldn't play with the team.
I remember there's an article done on you and you're

(56:41):
you're alone. I think Sports Illustrated did a piece on you.
You're alone shooting in arena. I bring it up because,
um one, you had a really strong year that you're
academically and you you stayed in college for three years.
Do you know how it is in Memphis, like some
of the kids that you've coached in high school and
in au ball, like there's some dire poverty and there's
this sense that kids go to Memphis and they see

(57:02):
they got to see success immediately, and then they got
to go off to the league. How do you handle
that now as a college coach? How do you handle
the expectations, many of them unrealistic, about the kids that
you're going to recruit. Well, I do agree with you
saying most of them, many of them unrealistic. But you
just have to tell a kid man have to work.
Allowed to allow the nation to talk about you. Don't

(57:24):
come in saying what you're gonna do, I'm one and done.
I've heard so many kids that they were wanting done
to three or four years. Uh, you can get yourself
into trouble doing it. I would hope that they would
listen to me and, uh, let me give them the
advice on when they should go or if they could
go and just keep working on the game. If most
kids like focused on working on the games and getting
better versus saying what they're going to do and where

(57:45):
they're going, there'd be much better office players. And uh,
it's since though in this in this society, were kids
this generation. Everybody thinks that they're one and done and
they're not. You're not. It's not true, no, I know.
And then the other thing you run into is now
all the kids in Memphis, like even the kids you
coached at at East High School, they're all gonna just
assume that you want them to play and play the

(58:07):
same role in college. And there's all these other kids
you're gonna recruit. How do you handle that? The the
look just because I used you this way in high
school doesn't mean I'm gonna use you the same way
at at the university. Memphis is a little bit different
deal there. How do you handle those expectations? Well, you
know you just played the best players. You know, I
don't show favoritism just because the kids from Memphis or
he played for me, um that he has favoritism over

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a kid that we recruited from Georgia or Texas or
Florida or even California. No, it's the better player played,
and not tell every kid. Competition is healthy. You're going
to compete, and if you earn your minutes, you earn them.
You We're not gonna give you anything. And most kids
don't like to hear that. The parents don't like to
hear that they wanted to be given to him. They won't.
They won't so many minutes or my child has to start,

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or my kids has to start. No, not here. The
way we handle it is it's fair. You're gonna earn everything.
It canna be fun though, right, I mean this is
I saw you, I saw you tour in the facility
and and looking around. There had to be inside your brain.
You had to be like, this is sweet. I get
to be the head coach of Memphis. This is awesome.
Oh my god man, this new practice facility. And I'm

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not trying to, you know, brag, but the new practice
facility is on the internet right now with me walking
through it my first time in it. In the facility.
Uh no, stone On Turn. Unbelievable facility and it's only
like three months old. Uh it's only been open for
like three months. And I'm I'm able to come in,
uh to an unbelievable situation, to even coach my alma mater.

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But to be in a building like this and then
had my home Jim be the FedEx form. I mean,
you can't you can't. No, you can't beat that. Um.
Something weird though, when when Cal had it going there,
it wasn't really with Memphis kids. And you know, early
on he had some Memphis kids, but you know d
Rose and c Dr. Those guys weren't Memphis kids. Josh
Pastor did a good job of getting Memphis kids, they

(59:54):
just didn't win maybe enough games. Um, what what's the
real challenge of recruiting memph His kids and getting them
to compete at a high level, not just seven nationally. Well,
the good thing for me is that I've been in
the community. I've been with these ships, uh since middle school,
this generation of kids that are that are gonna be
coming out of the next two or three years, and

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I've gotten to know them well, They've gotten to know
me well. So we've been doing the ring to the
normal kids, morning flies, morming, anybody. I know who the
real guys are, the guys that can really play at
the level that we need here in Memphis. So I
don't want to shut Memphis kids out because you know
they're not gonna reach the expectations. I know who's going
to reach the expectation, and you still have to recruit nationally.

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I'm not just gonna just limit myself to Memphis. But
I'm not gonna forget about Memphis kids either, So there
has to be an even balance with with it. I'm
not gonna, you know, shut down Memphis because I'm trying
to do Monket like Cloud and I feel like I
have a better relationship with the with the parents, with
the kids around here, and I know who's who because
I'm going to rain here are you gonna bring back

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to Memphis state uniforms. So that's a big question. Yes,
I'm saying that everybody's saying that we're gonna bring back
the throwback miss State uniforms. We have to do it
for a couple of games. Can you believe though, these
all the kids going the short shorts, like like, we
fought for years to get the shorts lengthened, and now
everybody wants the short shorter, like you have to we
There has to be a straightened out of this thing
because this this trend of the shorts getting mid thigh length,

(01:01:20):
This that's a bad trend. You know, we fought so
hard so to try to get longer shorts. We kept
pulling our shorts down and we tried to make them longer,
and now the kids are volding them to make them shorter.
It's it's it's just what's what's going on? Um Having
coached in high school but played so long in the
NBA and so successfully in the NBA. One of the

(01:01:41):
things that I've seen in colleges there's kind of a
mix a lot of the old school college coaches. They're
struggling to adjust to not just a three point shot,
but to the new style kind of of how they're
playing in the NBA. Have you thought about style wise,
do you know how you how you want to play.
Do you want to have kind of more NBA style
attack or more of a on style attack. No, I

(01:02:01):
want to I want to get up and there you
know I'm I'm a fast paced guy. And then if
we don't have anything, then we can set some type
of motion or or run a set. But initially I
want to run. We want to be a fast paced
team getting up down the floor. A lot of hockey
has seen some regular says, I'm a big guy throwing
the ball ahead and allowing my wings to attack downhill.
Big man, rim running, have a trail, big and we're

(01:02:23):
we're out and we're running. And if we don't have anything,
we get into some secondary action or even get into
a safe But I want the kids to be free.
They have a lot of freedom. I want them to
play basketball and not be micromanaging them and and and
and coaching every possession. And defensively, I love West Virginia style.
That's how I've always taught. I've taught that type of pressure.
I don't believe in letting someone walks the ball up

(01:02:45):
the court. It's almost like a slow death. You know,
I don't like that. I want to dictate the tempo
and I'm not going to I'm not gonna allow teams
to just walk it up on the entire game. Now.
You know, they foul a lot, so you can wheel
in a lot of dudes. When when if you're you're
picking up full word Penny Hardaway joining us? When when
was the Little Penny campaign? When was that proposed? You?

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When did some when did Nike sit you down and
show you that you mean? Back when I was in
the league, Yeah, you do you but do you remember,
like you remember came to me and said, hey man,
we had a brilliant idea, which was it was brilliant
that we held alter ego to be a dog and
we'll name Little Penny and he'll talk so much smack
that you will never have to say anything. And then
he'll talk to smack before you just keep doing what

(01:03:27):
you're doing, continue to play at the level, and he'll
do all the trash talking. And I thought that would
sin and it ended up being a huge hit. You
know that, Like when you walk in the door, everyone's
gonna everyone's gonna want you to. Like you go to
a recruiting visit, people are getting all the parents all day.
You guys, everybody's just gonna talk about Little Penny like
you no, like almost your your NBA career, the fact

(01:03:49):
that you were, you know, um, a four time NBA
All Star, that you were third team All NBA, even
you know, even your great college career. Everywhere you go,
they're gonna talk about little Penny just as much as
they talk about how great a player you were. Yeah, well,
you know that's that's that's a testament to Nike. And
that's also a great testament to what my career was

(01:04:09):
because Little Penny was a big part of my career.
I don't mind them talking about Little Penny. I don't
get jealous because that's a part of me. Uh Larry Brown,
will he be on the staff? I can't answer that
right now about suspect Brown, one of my favorite coaches ever,
and I'll just have to discuss with my my athletic director. Hey, listen,

(01:04:30):
I wish you nothing but success. I can't wait to
see your team's play, especially if they play up and
down and garden people. More than anything, I'm happy for
you get a chance to steer the ship of your
alma mater. Best of luck, Ty, I'll see in the
recruiting trail. Yeah, all right, pleasures mind. It's Penny Hardaway
who joined us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. When you're
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are bringing Dan Buyer. What are your thoughts? What do
you remember about Penny the player? Oh a lot. Him
and David Vaughan teaming up in Memphis, saw him play

(01:05:12):
in the n C Double A Tournament. They made a
sweet sixteen run that year. They lost too. I believe
it was oh gosh, now that I'm thinking, actually, maybe
it was Elite eight. They ended up beating Georgia Tech
and then lost to Cincinnati. I think of the Elite eight.
I also remember it's the tenure anniversary of me hitting
a golf ball on the Penny Hardaway's fairway at a

(01:05:35):
golf course in San Antonio. At the final four and
and was he was he cool about it? Yeah, it
was cool and it was weird too because it was
a Nike golf ball and you know, hey, Penny Hardaway,
Nike it was you know, he said, is it a Nike?
I said, yes it is. And that was mine little
little offline Doug maybe kind of like Tony Romo today. Actually,
Tony Romo didn't play too bad. Five were p seventy

(01:05:55):
seven in his debut as a tournament golfer on the
PGA Tour. Shoot seventy seven. But Romo in a field
of one D and thirty two right now in a
tie for one and elsewhere in college tube, Dan Hurley
leaving Rhode Island to be the new men's basketball coach
at Yukon Well. Chris mckazavier is going to interview for
the Louisville job this weekend, according to the Louisville Courier Journal.

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Of course, Sweet sixteen rolls han tonight, Loyola in Chicago,
Loyal of Chicago taking on Nevada that is, Kansas State
in Kentucky in the late game in Atlanta, while in
l a out here, Michigan takes on Texas A and
m followed by Florida State in Gonzaga Frank Course on
to what you're dealing with the Miami Dolphins, Giants straighter
defensive at j Z Pierre Paul to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Well.
In the NBA Warriors cards, Steph Curry probably will deplay

(01:06:38):
tomorrow against Atlanta, Kevin Durant, Raymond Green, and Clay Thompson
won't play in Dwight Howard not gonna play to night
against Memphis. The Hornets center suspended after receiving a technical
in last night's game. Is sixteenth of the season. Okay,
so help me out here. Let me I'm trying to
bring up this golf. I'm trying to find the scores
here because remember the golf from the Tony Roma was
playing in. It doesn't have some of the best golfers

(01:07:00):
in the the world because they're playing the w g C. Right, Yes,
that is correct, the top sixty four technically, I mean
there are top players that are missing out. So but
they still have a field event in the Dominican Republic,
the d R as it's called. Okay, so um who's
below him? If he's had a hundred and there's there's

(01:07:21):
two guys below him. I want to know who those
two guys are belowing. Well, Guy Borrows was the one
who was the only one who was behind him at
seven over par. Tony Romo is at five over in
the clubhouse. There are a couple of players on the course.
Brian Davis has tied with him, Tony technically right now
tied for a hundred and twenty eight as Robert Gamez
and d A Points are at six over parre not

(01:07:44):
the good golfer what what thirty years ago? Robert twenty
seven years ago? D A Points has had more success
lately than Robert Gamez has. But Tony Romo now tied
for a hundred and twenty. But he's in the clubhouse
at seventy seven. These guys have couple of more holes
to go. Guy Borrows is the only one. Tony Romo
is beaten so far. Bryce Garnett is nine under leading

(01:08:05):
the leading the tournament. Right, yeah, so Rice Garnett, Corey Connors, Boy,
you have to scroll all the way down. I just
that's gotta be. The thing is like whatever you do,
like you're in your head. Whatever I do, I can't
finish below. A former football player announcer, no matter how
good a golfer that he might be. Tony Tony Romo
is he's in the clubhouse and Guy Borros is not

(01:08:26):
gonna beat him. Guy Borros is finished, He's done. He's
at seven uh, finished with the seven seventy two shots
behind him. But Guy Borrows, um, he's old as well,
but still and Tony, by the way, you should lose
your tour card if you get if you finished below.
This is golf. Though, this is golf. Tony is good
enough to at least compete, but maybe maybe a day

(01:08:48):
puts just didn't fall for Guy Borrows. And Tony had
a couple of three putts as well. But yeah, you
don't want to I agree with your sentiment. You don't
want to lose to Tony Romo. Jason Gore finished seventy
Uh what do I married on hell? Cabreros is actually
a Southern California kid and a guy, and he was
in the US Open in two thousand five. He was

(01:09:11):
in contention at Pinehurst. How good? How good is how
good is he on the golf is amazing? He's like, yeah,
two was like Rainman, you just did the Rainman things.
That's what you just did you did golf Fraeman Buyer. Yeah,
it was like two thousand, two thousand five, definitely two
thousand five. I gotta go watch wapner. Jason Gore seventeen.
He sprayed a drive to the right and then he

(01:09:33):
was short of the green left and then he three
jacked it and then he was out of the tournament.
Out of the tournament in two thousand five. Definitely two
thousand five. You rainman me. That's where Jason Gore is
most known for. Rotief Goosen I think was also playing
with him in that but a tournament ended up being
won by Michael Campbell. Retief Goosen who uh goose one

(01:09:53):
at Southern Hills, right, he won the US had two
thousand one, and then two thousand four ended up winning
at Chinikos because he's because those are two places where
you the greens are incredibly difficult. Chinnecock, remember when they
had to water the greens, aren't they isn't the open
at Chinnicock this year? I did there. I kind of
showed a little golf CA knowledge. That was a good job.
Remember they're watering the greens in between holes, like hold on,

(01:10:15):
we got a water the green why because they're parking lots.
Kevin it wouldn't stop. Kevin Stadler had a shot that
just was a put that would not hold the green
and ended up rolling off and they had to do
something in Usja lost control of the greens. Then Southern
Hills is the most fun, really hard golf course I've

(01:10:36):
ever played. He here's what I mean. You could I've
played there and shot uh three fig shot like a
hundred and five. But I played with one ball. Right,
There's I played a lot of really tough golf courses
and then you're like, well that one's gone, let's go back. Hey,
look there's another ball. One of those deals. Did you
go through a sleeve? You go through a couple of

(01:10:56):
sleeves the ball like, that's not fun them, it's embarrassing,
whereas you know it's look, it's it. It takes a
long time and some and some shot creativity. But Southern
Hills in Tulsa, um, you get, well you ever get
to play it, it's awesome because it's one ball. You
cannot there's only a couple of holes to which you
have to really really miss to hit it on the street.

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Outside of that, if you're gonna play with one. Yeah, Doug,
it's easy to rack up a high score when you're
hitting it in the water and losing golf balls and
adding penalty strokes. And it shows you how difficult of
course can be. I don't think there's any water at
Southern Hills, but that's the point. You played with just
one ball, didn't lose any It shows how difficult it
can be. You know, sometimes you can get a nine
because you put a couple in the drink, but well,

(01:11:38):
you can get there. It's it can be so thick.
You know, you hit it when it's where it's thick,
and you and and you know, you just try and
power through it. You have no idea where the ball
is going, You have no idea what the distance is
going to be of a shot. But I honestly had
a great time playing there, whereas there's other courses I've played.
I mean, look, Oklahoma State's course is a aesthetically well, uh,

(01:12:00):
a more beautiful course than Southern Hills. It's you know,
it's still water. It's it's an incredible and it's longer
and it's hard, but it's not that much fun because
it's when he gets windy, you got it's so long,
you got no shot. And then if you hit it
off the you hit it off the fairway. He hid
in the into the sticks. You know, you're fighting black snakes.
You're like, no things. You go. You go in there

(01:12:22):
and you hear the rattle and you're like, nah, I'm
not I'm just I'll take the penalty. Take the penalty.
No such, no such thing. Yeah, this rain stops and
you get out, did you guys? See Jason Pierre Paul
was was traded earlier today. Um, Jason Pierre Paul had
the in his his cap hit its twelve point five

(01:12:42):
million dollars, which would have made him six highest among linebackers,
would have been the thirteen the third highest paid player
on the team. The Giants have just one player from
there to two thousand ten to two thousand fourteen draft
classes still on the roster. That's Odell by com Jr.
I mean, like, look, the reason Jerry Rees lost his

(01:13:02):
job wasn't because ob J got hurt, but because they
just didn't have a good enough team and they had
some bad contracts. But the JPP thing is is fascinating
to me. Remember, of course, he blew off a couple
of his digits and fireworks. That's what he'll forever be
known for. More interesting is in the contract and like, look,
this is Dave Gettleman, who was with the Giants previously

(01:13:25):
then went down to the Carolina Panthers, and he comes
up and he's like, this is not my guy, it's
not my style, and that contract is untenable, and so
it's it's a it's a good piece of business advice
that I got from a friend a long time ago,
which is this is careful of taking the contract that
takes people, shakes people upside down for money. Here's a

(01:13:48):
famous broadcaster, famous elite broadcaster who um at one point
was probably the king of all broadcasting and still went
on to have a very good career. But he lost
his job like three years later. It wasn't because of
that contract negotiating. Because that the three years previous contract negotiating,

(01:14:10):
where we try to get every last dollar. Sometimes it's
better off to leave a little bit on the table,
all right. And look, I'm I have that problem with
eating dinner, all right. I go out to eat dinner.
And one of my biggest issues my wife and I
used to have this great thing ramos where we would do.
She would order an entree. I mean she would order um, yeah,

(01:14:34):
she would order entree, and I would order a salad
like a dinner salad, and I eat most of the
salad to fill up and then kind of finish off
parts of ronentree. She didn't done dig salad, but she
did a little bit of it, and we just share.
That was our our thing. But you know that was
also when we didn't have a ton of money and
we were you know. Now sometimes you go out with
friends and everybody ordered entree. My thing is this My

(01:14:57):
problem when I go to restaurants is I want to eat.
I want to feel like I got my money's worth,
even if somebody else picks up the tab. I don't
want to be the guy that didn't. Hey, I bought
you a fifty dollar steak and you didn't need all
of it, right, Sometimes better if you leave a little
bit there, little little meat on the boat. The same
thing in negotiations, like sometimes players are so concerned with

(01:15:18):
back end dollars, what it looks like in the next
couple of years, Like you know what, that's the kind
of thing that gets you cut. I mean, that's what
happened to Jordy Nelson, Right, Jordy Nelson's nine point five
million dollar nine point five million dollar capit had to
go love him in Green Bay. Look, we love you, dude,
but nine point five million dollar capit can do that, JPP,

(01:15:41):
love you, dude. Point five milldar capit can't do that,
not at this point in your career. And you're not
even the guy of the general manager. That's there. Is
Sam Donald overrated because he went to USC. Clay Travis things,
So give you my thoughts. Next, Doug Gotli show Fox

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(01:16:24):
It's on six to nine Eastern time, three to six
Specific time. It's a m on Fox Sports Radio. He
had this to say about Sam Donald the day after
his uh much lauded Pro Day. There's a long collection
of USC quarterbacks who have bombed. Right, Guys who you thought, hey,
this is gonna be a great quarterback and they haven't

(01:16:45):
actually panned out. Here's the collection of drafted USC quarterbacks
and what looks to be like the last thirty five years. Basically,
are you ready for this list? Carson Palmer, Matt Winer,
Matt Barkley, Rob Johnson, Matt Castle, Rodney Pete, Pat Hayden,
John David Booty, Cody Kessler, Sean Salisbury, Paul McDonald, Vince Evans,

(01:17:10):
Mark Sanchez, and now Sam Donald of that list. Of
that list of USC quarterbacks, I would say that Carson
Palmer is probably the most accomplished. To me, when you
look at that list, is it not fair to ask
are USC quarterbacks getting an SC bump? SC is the

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straw that stirs the drink, certainly for the last twenty
years when there's been no NFL team, but even before that,
Southern California is the glitz and glamour program when it
comes to football in the nation's second largest media market.
And so when I run through that list of quarterbacks
that have been drafted into the NFL, is there not

(01:17:51):
an argument to be made that the quarterbacks that have
been drafted from SC have been over ray did relative
to the fact that they actually went to Southern cow
It's an interesting thought or an interesting theory. Um okay,
like yeah, the answer is no, uh, it hasn't. I

(01:18:15):
don't believe it has to do with the sc bump,
so to speak. Let's take U c l A, for example,
not the same football school as USC. They have Troy Aikman.
They also have k McCown he was a bus Tommy
Maddox mostly a bust um what's my man's name with
the Green Baby was with the Green Bay Packers, Brett

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Brett Hunley who hasn't ever lived up. And then you
have Josh Rosen, right, like, is Josh Rosen the last
bunch of guys from u c l A. Or is
he Troy Aikman. I've never really understood the association between
a player and the school. Now I have understood it
when it's the same coaching staff and the same coaching style.

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Here's the example. John Bee line head coach at Michigan,
and I think John Bilin's as good a coach as
there is in the country. I mean that, and I
think his players become wildly overrated because they look great
and play great and play in the n C deep
into the n c A tournament. And when you play
deep in the n c A tournament NBA people like, well,
I kind of I guess I like him more than

(01:19:20):
I thought i'd liked him. Trey Burke's perfect example. Then
Robinson the thirds perfect example. You know, if anyone, Tim
Hardaway Jr. Is a guy who was kind of maligned,
and the courses probably surprised people how good he's been,
even after the contract he sign which seemed ridiculous with
the New York Knicks. There's been plenty of bus coming
out of John Bee line system as opposed to if

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I went through Michigan, it's been great players come out
of Michigan. When Pete Carroll was there, it probably would
have been a more fair statement to make because there
was such like look Matt Leinert, It was he that
good or was it the system college football and the
surrounding talent. It's really hard to tell, because he Matt

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Lennard was great. Remember Matt Lennard was not a super
heavily recruited guy, did not have a great art. He
just won a ton of games in college and was
deadly accurate, and so he didn't have the arm strength
in the NFL to make some of those same plays
and never really got comfortable when he did with Arizona
then he got hurt. So I don't like the He
played at the same school as guys that weren't that

(01:20:25):
good at quarterbacks, and they were overhyped because of l A.
The overhype because of l A thing I don't really
get if anything, If anything, Sam Donald is more impressive
because this USC coach and this USC coaching staff, by

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all accounts not terribly impressive. You put him in a
situation where he's playing with a better coach team, he
doesn't have to make as many plays on the fly,
and he's probably more refined and turns the ball over less.
They would have been terrible this year if not for
Sam Donald, and last year they were terrible until Sam

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Donald took over. He just happens to be the quarterback USC.
It's an interesting question, right does does does the brand
sc raise his status? Maybe it will raise his the
initial awareness of Sam Donald, which is why you go
to a USC. But look around the country and Aaron Rodgers,
cal Tom Brady, Michigan, Matt Stafford Georgia. I mean they

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all went to different schools. There's a heart It's hard
to find the correlation between school and players or styles.
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(01:21:54):
different tournament in the Sweet sixth Team than it is
in sixty four or in thirty two. It just is.
I'll explain it to you having been a part of
it and watching it, give you my thoughts on it.
That'll coming next in the Doug Gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio.

(01:22:17):
What Up Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio? Do Do Do? Do? Do?
M h, I got a lot to tell you, a
lot to talk about one time of the Sweet sixteen,

(01:22:38):
the moment um, there's this this this story out of
San Antonio is super super interesting to me. But it's
more interesting not because of the story out of San Antonio,
but because it's the story out of San Antonio that
makes sense. Like, I don't know if KWHI Leonard is
gonna play anymore today than he was yesterday. I don't
really know. Do I think Adrian ward Zanowski missed on

(01:22:59):
the story probably not, although technically he's not actually reporting
the story as much as Michael C. Wright, who works
underneath kind of his umbrella. So Woads writes the story
Spurs hold players only meeting to implore Kawhi Leonard to return.
That's the headline. But then he goes on to say

(01:23:21):
that Spurs guard Tony Parker, four time NBA All Star
quarterback the meeting after the team's victory over Minnesota on
Saturday night, non players were rest to leave the locker room,
a source told Michael C. Wright. In other words, there's
a little bit of game of telephone here, and that
doesn't mean that any of the story is incorrect, but
it can be made more in more and more pronounced.

(01:23:46):
Ramos and Buyer both married. Music is essentially Mary. He's
been with the same girl for over a year. They're
going on trips to Hawaii together. You know, he turned
vegan because of her. He actually, I mean all this stuff.
He really only has a beard because she says grow
a beard or else. She has like a Kenny Rogers thing. Right,

(01:24:07):
at some point, the beard's gonna become silver and soil
his hair and he'll start singing the gamble humming the
gambler every day anyway. Anyone who has a significant other
that's a woman knows there's a word that actually doesn't
mean anything bad, but can be taken to means something

(01:24:29):
really awful. Fine. How are you fine? How are you fine? Right?
How are you fine? No? I'm fine, I'm fine. Can
I get some drink? No, I'm fine, No, I'm fine.

(01:24:49):
Like fine is a completely neutral It means fine, I'm okay.
It actually means I'm good. But she didn't say I'm good.
She said I'm fine. She didn't say I'm okay. She
said I'm fine. Fine. Can what do you mean? Fine?
And I use that because just because they might have

(01:25:12):
been speaking loudly, and just because there might have been
a player's only meeting, does not necessarily mean that they
were yelling at Kauai, And because because when you hear
players only meeting, players call it telling Kawahi Leonard to
play automatically, like oh, they think he's soft and they're
telling him be soft, And dude, you better get out

(01:25:32):
back out here and play because we need you and
we know you're not hurt. Right, isn't that the isn't
that the kind of the hoops that your mind mentally
goes through. Players like you don't ever tell me about
my money, don't ever tell me about my I don't
say anything about my girl or my wife or whatever,
my family, my kids, and players don't usually talk about

(01:25:54):
whether or not somebody's hurt or not hurt. So when
you hear they talked in their locker him loudly about
Kawai Leonard Portly's injury, you automatically think, oh, well, they
think he's not hurt and he should be playing, and
they're essentially calling him either a faker or soft. But
that's us trying to that's me me reading my wife

(01:26:17):
said she was fine, and assuming I know what the answer,
has a bad way to do it, because this is
a story that's written by a writer who's who's taking
the word forward from another writer who was actually there
but not in the room, and got it from a

(01:26:38):
source like things can be taken completely out of context.
And Danny green called him out as such, And we've
had others Danny Greene saying couldn't be any more inaccurate
l O L. There were other players that said the same.
I tend to believe the reporter I tend to believe
the sources. I tend to believe that there probably was

(01:26:59):
a meeting. It was players only they did discuss Kawaide
Leonard's injury. I don't know if it was imploring him
to play or just say just kind of a fact
finding mission. But once it becomes a game of telephone,
it's like somebody saying fine. Unless I heard them say
fine and saw their facial reaction and the context of
where they said fine a sentence and how they said fine.
And do they use fine to describe things that are

(01:27:21):
good or bad? Some people say things are fine, I'm fine,
she fine, Oh, she's fine, Right, finds a good word.
Some people like fine fine, and it's really a bad word.
So I don't know. What I do know is it's
really interesting because this is the Fort Knox of the NBA,
this is the Patriots of the NBA, and in the
same year to which we had some dysfunction within the Patriots,

(01:27:42):
Malcolm Butler, Rob Gronkowski saying it's not fun trading away
Jimmy Garoppolo for like nothing. Now we got meat on
the bone to talk about with the San Antonio Spurs.
That's interesting. Sweet sixteens tonight, and look, the first weekend
is generally about the upset. Especially the first night's about

(01:28:04):
the upset. The first day, I think a lot of
teams play with a ton of pressure. You don't want
to be that. You don't want to be Virginia, right,
you don't want to be Arizona. You don't want to
be Michigan State and get beat earlier that Michigan State
got beaten the second But generally the first weekend, the
first game very pressure field, and it's embarrassing to lose

(01:28:26):
in the first round if you're an elite team. Second weekend,
it's not the same amount of pressure. It's much and
it's weird because there's a lot more build up to it,
but there's not the pressure to it because if you lose,
it lost in the sweet sixteen. Right, even if you're

(01:28:48):
in Nevada and you lose the loyal to Chicago you
got to a sweet sixteen, doesn'tn't really matter. You're Syracuse
and you get beaten by Duke It lost in the
sweet sixteen. It's really interesting on how because Sweet sixteens
now are like Final four is twenty five years ago
in terms of the amount of attention they get in
most of these individual cities. But let's say, just for

(01:29:12):
for a second, just for giggles, Perdue loses. Michigan loses
Michigan one the Big Ten tournament, huge expectations. Some people
had them going to a final four. Let's say they lose.
The text s A and M like, ah, they got
too Sweet sixteen. It's weird because you can get upset. Duke,
for example, was I think eleven and a half even
a twelve point favorite in some books over Syracuse, the

(01:29:35):
team they beat by sixteen orlier. This year, Duke gets
beat by Syracuse, and even though Syracuse was the last
team in the field based upon the the rankings they
released after they released the field, He's still like he
lost the Sweet six team. And that is that fascinating

(01:29:55):
to anybody else? Uh? The other thing that I I
find I find interesting is that the games are at
Staples Center, where the Lakers play in l A. And
we've had Sweet sixteen Elite eight games there before. I
live in law we live in Los Angeles. To live

(01:30:15):
in Los Angeles, do you guys, is there any hype
over these games at all? Like it's oh, it's one
of those things. I think the one big city you
can go to and you get the hype, some hype
when you play the n c A tournament there is
New York City. They do seem to care. When they
had the Sweet sixteen Elite eight theory was kind of

(01:30:36):
a big thing, but it's it's weird. One of those
is like, well, we gotta get to l A. That's
a big market there in l A, There in Atlanta,
there in Boston, and they're in Omaha. And I kind
of feel like Omaha is the perfect market for this
sort of this, this sort of event. Omaha loves the

(01:30:57):
College Baseball World Series. Omaha will be packed to the
os by the way, Omaha's I mean, you've got Kansas there,
it's right down the road from Kansas City. You've got
Syracuse and Duke. Oh, you got Clemson too. Um. The
one in boston's good because you got Nova, but West Virginia,
Texas Tech and Perdue. Like Atlanta, you got Kentucky. That's

(01:31:21):
Catlanta they call it. But you know, look, gonzag in
l A should be a bigger thing, but it's not. Really.
I'm not doing a man on the street pole, but
it is interesting on how you can get in these
big markets and kind of have the opposite, the attendant effect,
like I don't I'm going to watch it, but I

(01:31:43):
don't know anybody else's like, let's a watch party Sweet
sixteen tonight. Music you you listen you know you and
romis you guys listen to sports radio trying to find
the stuff for what did the Fox say? How much
hype do you think there's over Sweet sixteen in town
for l A specifically none? And I think a lot
of it has to do with something that we kind

(01:32:03):
of talked about at the end of last week or
maybe earlier this week. And I think a lot of
it has to do with the fact that the PAC
twelve has no footing. Uh, you know, USC missed the
tournament entirely, u C. L A lost in that first
playing game, and then all of the other teams that
I think people in l A could have gravitated towards

(01:32:24):
as members of schools that they've would have played against.
I mean there's essentially after the first weekend all of
them were gone. And I know l A's a transplant city,
but that's there aren't that many college die hard fans
here as much as they are transplants of like other
professional teams, it feels like the opposite of New York.

(01:32:49):
In New York. Um in New York, there are a
lot of college transplant and some of it's like it's
a lot of big ten people moved. If it was
if it was the University of Arizona, I think it
would be big. Arizona, of course has lost a bunch
of times at the Pond and Anaheim, which is in
Orange County, that's a big USC and Arizona kind of hotbed.

(01:33:12):
Also U c l A as well, Dan Buyer, I
was gonna say, Doug when you mentioned Arizona into what
Ryan was mentioning seven years ago at Honda Center in Anaheim.
You had Arizona and San Diego State making it to
the Sweet sixteen with Duke and Yukon being there. And
while Duke and Yukon maybe didn't have the biggest of
followings just because of the travel in the side of

(01:33:33):
the schools, I mean, it was electric to see the
Arizona fans cheering on Derrick Williams in that Duke game.
In the San Diego State fans were out there. But really,
how many options does the West Coast have to bring
an electric atmosphere with the top teams of the West Coast.
What maybe four Arizona, U C L A, Gonzaga. Um, well,

(01:33:56):
you know, I mean used to be, you know, used
to be. But I just don't think that there are
a lot of options for like West Coast regionals if
those schools aren't any good to to grab any electric.
It's a hard it's a hard one. It's a it's
actually a very very hard one. Um. Maybe the new
the New Warriors Arena eventually becomes a home one. I look,
I still think you do it in Vegas. Like I

(01:34:17):
understand that the n C is like, man, we got
all this. We want to separate gambling from the kids,
and I got it. I understand like you want the
games to be on the up and up. But I
feel like I feel like we keep tiptoe around it.
And I'm not a legalized gambling everywhere guy. I just
think there's unintended constut. The people in Vegas know what

(01:34:39):
they're doing. Those they know what they're doing. And I
know there is plenty of illegal gambling that takes place.
And you know this is like the drug legalization guy, right,
legalized drugs and that way it cuts out the illicit
illegal drug suppliers. Like yeah, but it doesn't. It's not
really the message that we want us send. I don't know.

(01:35:02):
I just I feel like tiptoeing around whether or not
we uh, we have games in Vegas. That that's a
it's just having Vegas. Vegas is a destination. It would
be a big thing in Vegas and everybody be psyched
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(01:37:15):
quick question. Okay, three options. Go to the games in
a suite with somebody's go home, watch the games on
the couch, kids running around. But here's there's actually an
added bonus to it. We have some friends in town
from Portland, so uh, and the kids love ball. But

(01:37:37):
you know, like one of the things is when it's
just your kids, like sometimes the kids like we kind
of watch teen titans go like no watching basketball games
and it's raining outside, So blanket couch basketball does not
sound like a bad thing. Or go with a buddy too. Uh.
I don't know how to describe it other than a

(01:37:57):
country club that doesn't have golf. Like really nice, really
good food, really good company, interesting people, and watch the
games while having really good food that I'm not paying for.
RANKO what you would do? One? Two or three? Uh? Yeah,
go ahead to music. I would say the free nice

(01:38:17):
food at a nice place. One, two would be in
the sweet and three would be with your lovely beautiful family.
I love my family, though, but I could also watch
some of the games Tomorrow. Um coaching flag football tomorrow.
Head coaches called, He's actually in Hawaii, so I'm gonna

(01:38:38):
play calling tomorrow. We'll run an oop to you. Spread
them all out, going the football all the time, flag
football tomorrow, Ramos one, two or three? What would you do?
I would flip the first. I would do sweet and
the game all day. That would be so much fun.
Then the nice breat place, and then your kids, your
family would be last. Yes, you guys hate your family.

(01:38:59):
I agree. If you said. Lucas is always saying, like, Dad,
can I put on YouTube? I'm like, no, I'm watching
the base. Thing is like Hayes has gotten into watching
Hoop and then his buddy, these two buddies, his buddies
are like, they really really really want to watch Hoop,
but then they'd love to go. I just don't know
if I could get them all ticket. They're actually his
friends are at Disneyland right now. Poor kids. That's Dan Buyer.

(01:39:21):
What would you do, Dan? Dan? You have? You have
three choices watched now? Remember the one thing about watching
these games in the suite. Normally I would be I
want to be courtside, but because there are other there's
another game going on the same time or other games
going out the same time. Actually just other game, other
game go on the same time. You kind of want
to be in the Sweet night, so in the suite

(01:39:43):
at Staples, um at home kids, but kids are occupied
and it's Taco Taco night at home, and I definitely sorry,
I forgot to mention the Taco night. Tacos are big
in my house. And then option three is I guess
I'll describe it as a country club without golf, like
really cool set up, nice chairs, smells of rich mahogany,

(01:40:04):
good food, drinks, adult conversation. Both games up on nice
TVs one to three. What would your choice pay? Well,
I wouldn't go to Florida State Gonzaga if they were
playing in my home, so I would go home with
the family. Number one I would go. I guess, um
if the Sweet doesn't have TV S, I'd put that
last because I would want to know what okay? So

(01:40:25):
then game and Sweet two and then country club three.
But at home, home is where the heart is. That's
number one. It's the only guy without kids, right kids,
you haven't have no kids. You're like, oh yeah, you
want to go home? You have you don't have children.
Let's get the damn buy with the APO Ah. Yeah,
tough options there. Sweet sixteen does get going in less
than two hours. Loyal of Chicago takes on Nevada in

(01:40:48):
Atlanta the second game there. Kansas State taking on Kentucky.
By the way, none of those games sound appealing at all.
No Michigan, Texas A and M game one in l A,
Florida State taking on Gonzaga in game two tonight, and
Hurley's gonna leave RhoD Islands to be the new men's
basketball coach at Yukon. The Louisville Courier Journal says Xavier
coach Chris Mack will meet with Louisville officials on Saturday
about the school's coaching vacancy. Some news from the NFL

(01:41:10):
franc Cors and a one year deal with the Miami Dolphins,
so the running back will go for season number fourteen
in his career. The Giants traded defensive end Jason Pierre
Paul to the Buccaneers. Well, the Giant sent Pierre Paul
in the fourth rounder to Tampa. The Giants will get
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(01:41:34):
Curry probable to go tomorrow against the Hawks, while Kevin Durant,
Draymond Green, and Clay Thompson will sit out. In our
Tony Romo update, now tied for a hundred and seven
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(01:41:55):
need a gal. Hey, I gotta gap, all right. So
the Cleveland Browns of the number one, the number four
pick in the upcoming NFL draft, Jimmy has them. Who's
their owner was in attendance yesterday for Sam Donald's pro day.
Should be pointed out that Josh Rosen had a pro
day the day before, so it's not like he made

(01:42:16):
the trip out just for one guy, one moment. But
I point out, look, they they got a quarterback for
this year and Donald is only twenty years old. He's
only started a year in three quarters. There's gonna be
some development there that's gonna be needed before he plays.
And that's why UH starting Tyrod Taylor this year. Seems

(01:42:37):
to make some sense for John Dorsey. But you know
who would know, Mary Kay Cabot would know. She's our
gal in Cleveland. She does a great job covering the Browns.
Beat follower on Twitter at mary Kay Cabot or reader
work at Cleveland dot com. Mary Kay. Should we look
into Jimmy has them being at Sam Donald's pro day
talking with mom and Paul Donald. You know what, No,
I don't think so. Like you said, you know, they

(01:42:59):
went out there. They also did a private workout with
Josh Rosen yesterday. They're on the move this week. There
was Baker Mayfield today. Uh, then they'll see Josh Allen tomorrow.
So no, I don't think too much should be read
into that. All right? Should we read something into Tyrod
Taylor being acquired meaning they need to get there? They
know they want to draft a quarterback, but they want

(01:43:19):
to develop the guy and that would change. You know,
it feels like Rosen is more ready to play. Maybe
even Baker Mayfield is more ready to play than Josh
Allen or Sam Donald would be. Well, you know what, yeah,
I think you can read something into that. Time Taylor
will start this season. There's no question about that he said,
it's not a competition, so you can actually go ahead

(01:43:40):
and take someone that needs a year or two to develop.
I also think what that means is they will try
to find someone with a similar skill set. Now does
that necessarily mean Baker Mayfield. No, because Sam can run
like that and so could Josh Allen. Um. What about
number four? Um? Like, I feel I feel like they're
going to draft a quarter back at one because they've

(01:44:02):
because they've passed on drafting quarterbacks before. Is that a
that a fair assessment that, you know what, maybe they
don't want to draft a quarterback at one, but they're
gonna have to because they passed on Carson Wentz among
others drafting drafting high previously. Yeah, you know, I think
they have to take a quarterback at number one, not
just because they have passed on Wentz and Watson and
guys like that. Um, but because they have the number

(01:44:22):
one overall pick and this is a very rich class
and there's just no way that they can you know,
that they can pass on another quarterback like that? All right,
what about four? What are you hearing? Well? You know,
I do actually think they probably will stay at number four. Uh,
you know, unless someone knocks their socks off with the
with the offer that they cannot refuse. Uh. But you know,

(01:44:45):
if you have an opportunity to get at number one,
the best quarterback in the director, then turn around and
get the best pass firsure in the draft. It's a
Bradley Chub, you know. I think that would look pretty attractive.
There's fantastic stuff. Mary Kay Cabott does great work. She's
gonna be super super busy getting ready for the NFL Draft, which,
by the way, this year is on Fox as well
as the NFL network. ESPN has it as well, but
she has all the low down what's going on in

(01:45:07):
C town. Mary Kate, thanks so much for joining us.
Thanks for having me all right s Doug Gallup show
Fox Sports Radio interesting. If they want somebody who can
run around back there the way that ty Shan Tyrod Tyshan,
Tyrod Taylor, Tyshon Taylor's former Kansas player, the way that
Tyrod Taylor runs around back there, I do think it

(01:45:28):
means you're not gonna draft Rosen, that you want to
develop a guy, and there are developmental guys, and I
think Donald and Allen are your most developmental guys. As
opposed to Baker Mayfield. Mayfield may go super early, he
may go high, as he may go to the Jets
at three. That's possible, But to me, it feels like

(01:45:48):
it feels a lot like they've decided they want to
develop Sam Donald, they want to develop Josh Allen, assuming
they want to develop Josh Rosen, or it's Sam, Sam
Donald or Josh Allen and that's the way they want
to go. I got a guy um Minish Meta is
an NFL calumnist for the New York Daily News. The
Daily News, of course, had a story out yesterday. I

(01:46:11):
believe it was that the Jets tried to acquire the
number one overall pick before settling on the number three pick. Miniche,
Who did they want at one? Um in their effort
to trade up? Well, I look, they e gauged all
of the teams ahead of them in the draft back
in January in Mobile, so I think it was more

(01:46:31):
about a fact finding mission determining what it would ultimately
take to move up from the number six spots. And
you know, realistically speaking, John Dorsey wasn't going to move
that unless a team offered him something outrageous. Who they want? Well,
I can tell you that there's a clear division among
the three top guys in their eyes Josh Rose and
Josh Allen and Sam Donald and everybody else. So I

(01:46:53):
know there's a big four in some people's eyes when
you include Baker Mayfield. But my understanding is that the
Jets clearly would be happy with one of the first
three guys I mentioned, and that's why they felt they
needed to get up into at least the top three
to assure one of those guys. Everyone gets gun shy
because they've made mistakes in the past. Hackenburgh's inaccuracies. Does

(01:47:13):
does that make them gunshy about Josh Allen? That's a
fair question, because you know two strong young quarterbacks uh
sub sixty percent completion rate in their college careers, Uh,
believe it or not. Christian Hackenburg is actually more accurate
than Josh Allen. But I think when you look at
it a little bit deeper, Josh Allen supporting cast specifically
in this past season, really Uh, you know, wantn't anything

(01:47:35):
to write home to mom about now that being said,
fifty is still so even with a good supporting cast,
how much better would he have been? Uh? At the
fair question, but there is a lot of physical uh tools,
They're probably more so than some of the other guys.
My understanding, however, is that if you're looking for a
guy you think can absolutely be a difference maker in

(01:47:57):
this league barring injury. I think the two eyes you
know that I've heard time and time again over the
last several months are Sam Donald and Josh Rosen. And
not not to slight Josh Allen, but just from a
football i Q standpoint, I think the two smartest guys
in this draft from a football standpoint are Baker Mayfield
and Josh Rosen. Sam Donald is extremely football smart as well.

(01:48:19):
And and again I don't want to slight Josh Allen,
but everything I've heard about how these guys do on
the board, Josh Allen is just to tick below these
other guys. I've heard the exact same thing from NFL
the literally, uh literally almost word for word in terms
of how you're how you're how you're placing these guys around.

(01:48:39):
It feels that's why it feels more and more like
Josh Rosen is that guy, right and I he's a
big city guy. Honestly, being Jewish, I don't think although
I think he's actually an atheist, but he's born Jewish,
Like I don't think that. I don't think his last name.
I think it helps him in New York and I
and I kind of think his personality his hey, you know, like,
I don't care if I go to one. I want

(01:48:59):
somebody ons me the kind of the utter on it.
If he feels like a jet kind of guy. Am
I am I painting too obvious a picture when maybe
it's it's not it's not that clear cut. Well, I
love his personality, and look, I don't know him particularly well,
but just speaking to people around him and then people
who have studied him over the last couple of years,

(01:49:19):
I like everything about him. I don't think New York
would be daunting in the least fit. But ultimately, the
question that matters the most is can he play? And
the answer that question is a resounding yes. I mean,
he is the best pocket past in this draft. He's
the guy who isn't necessarily the most mobile guy that
but that's okay because he can decipher defenses. He can
break down defenses really at this age of his career,

(01:49:42):
better than any of these other guys that we're talking about.
If I were drafting number one. I probably would take
Sam Donald only because I think that physical skill set
and this innate ability to kind of escape pressure when
things collapse around him makes him a potentially special player.
But after that, Josh Rosen would be my guy. I
would take Rosene for Allen over certainly over Baker Mayfield

(01:50:02):
as well. So if the Jets can get Josh Rosen
at three, I think parting with those three second round
draft picks to move up from number six would be
well worth it. Okay, So then here's the question. They
have two other quarterbacks under contract, right, They got Teddy
and uh and they got um uh Josh mccoweny who
started for them last year. Is their plan to try

(01:50:23):
and look if they get Rosen, see how quickly he
they can get him ready, and whenever he's ready, then
maybe used Teddy Teddy Bridgewaters trade bait, kind of like
what the Philadelphia Eagles did. Well. It's interesting because Teddy
Bridgewater's contract is a one year deal. He only had
dollars guaranteed at signing, so there is no uh, you know,
guarantee or locked that Teddy Bridgewater will be on the

(01:50:45):
week one roster. They want to see how this rookie
performs in training camp. In the preseason, they're gonna put
Josh McCown on ice like they did last preseason. They
don't want to risk any kind of injury for an
injury prone soon to be thirty nine year old, so
he's not gonna play much in the preseason. They're gonna
get a healthy look at the rookie and Teddy Bridgewater.
But this is really about the rookie. If the rookie,

(01:51:06):
as you said, you know, develops and shows enough promise
where they think that he's gonna be ready to play
in an NFL game week one, whether that's as a
starter or a backup, then Bridgewater becomes expendable and they
won't have him on the roster. He won't get the
remaining five plus million dollars on his deal. So even
though on paper to a one year, six million dollar deal,
for all intents and purposes, it's really a five thousand

(01:51:28):
dollar some are audition here because, uh, you know, if
he is not playing particularly well. And what I thought
was troubling yesterday was that he did not come out
and say that he will be ready for O T
A S in another couple of months, and you know
the health of his knee is it? Is it real concern?
I know we played a couple of snaps at the
end of last year for Minnesota, but nobody really knows
what you're gonna get out of him. You know, he's

(01:51:48):
a young player with a pedigree. But again, I think
this is really about the rookie, whether it's Josh Rosen
or Josh Allen. I would expect to be one of
those two guys. If that guy shows the coaching staff
that he is ready. Uh, don't be surprised if he's
starting Week one and Teddy Bridge rolls out of the
equation and you have Josh McCown as the number two
veteran backup. Last thing, niche, Um, is it crazy for
me to think. I understand, you need a quarterback, You're

(01:52:10):
in New York, you go for it, you move up
three spots, you do whatever it takes. But those second
round picks, this is a team that was at a
talent deficit as opposed to the rest of the league. Um,
I feel like they needed those picks. You know, those
second round picks, those are potential starters. What's your sense
of if they went too far all in just to

(01:52:32):
move up three spots. Well, they were desperates. This wasn't
Plan A. Plan A was the sign Kirk Cousins. And
they used the draft capital to give help to kirk
Cousins with the number six pick and with the two
second round picks, and to replenish the roster, much like
what Chris Ballard is now doing in Indianapolis by collecting
these additional picks. But they didn't get Kirk Cousins. So

(01:52:53):
they pivoted quickly. And this is year four now of
the Mike mccagnet Todd Bowles regime, so they don't necessarily
have the luxury of time to put off the quarterback
situation until two thousand and nineteen. They would hope that
they're not going to be picking in the top five
or top six again. And uh, you know, by by
all accounts, this is a relatively deep quarterback class with

(01:53:14):
potentially three maybe four starters, you know, at the NFL level.
So you've got to take your shot now, and they
wanted to get Cousins. It didn't happen. I don't think
that they could have stone walled anymore. Ownership management, the
coaching staff, they all want to find an answer and
they think that they're close enough and high en up
in the draft where they can get one of these

(01:53:36):
guys who they believe can be a franchise quarterback to
the next decade plus. Miniche met from the New York
Daily News, is a great job covering covering the NFL.
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Johnny Manzel was in San Diego taking part at the

(01:54:44):
University of San Diego Pro Day today and he was
considered a special guest but did throw to receivers with
about twelve to thirteen teams and attendance. I mean, I
think I've changed drastically obviously, had to hit a series
of lows to get to a point where I feel comfortable, um,
in my own skin, in my own life, and with
where I'm at. So um A lot has changed personally

(01:55:06):
and what I've learned about myself and what I've learned
about life through the highs and the loads. So I
don't necessarily think I would be where I am today
without going through some of the harder stuff. But you know,
I feel like I'm a better person because of it,
even if it, you know, it derailed where I wanted
to do for a while. Johnny Fota rooting former against him,

(01:55:27):
be honest, um rooting for him. What do you think
he ultimately is if he gets a shot. I don't
think that he he'd just be a backup. I mean,
that's that's it. That's it about you Ramo's former against him. Yeah,
I'm for people get it out of shot, so go
for it. What about you music, I think there are

(01:55:49):
a few other quarterbacks I'd like to see you get
a chance before him. Yeah. My my thing is I
knew this was. I had Cliff Kingsbury on he's his
head coach, who's his his offensive coordinator at at A
and M and his first year at Texas, Techi had
Cliff Kingsbury and I asked him about man's now and
he was like, you know, if he really gets in

(01:56:11):
the film room, he still playing in him, really buys
into getting in the film room, working on his craft,
I think he could be special. When I heard that,
immediately I knew. I knew he was a party guy.
Knew it, knew it, knew it. And um, I think
it's really hard to think you cannot do the homework

(01:56:31):
for a couple of years and then all of a
sudden start acing tests. Yeah. All he has to do
is just uh do the hard stuff, that the stuff
that you don't want to do to become a professional. Um.
Other NFL notes running back Frank Gore, So of what
do you do with the Miami Dolphins. It'll be his
fourteenth season in the National Football League. Yeah, he's gonna

(01:56:52):
be a Hall of Famer, but he's a Hall of good, right,
I mean he he's been a lot of good. Team
has been really productive, almost had a thousand yards rushing
last year at like se even years old. But this
is a comeback to Miami. They're trying to change the
culture of Miami, and Frank Gore is a guy who
he's really well respected for getting more out of his
body than maybe any running back before him. The Giants

(01:57:12):
traded defensive end Jason Pierre Paul to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
also a fourth round pick go into the Bucks in
exchange for a third and fourth round pick. I mean
that that comes down to the money that he's He
was a twelve point five million dollar cap hit, and
they're gonna try and change from a four three to
a three four, I believe, and he just doesn't fit.

(01:57:34):
He was never as good since he lost that digit.
And he's competitive as hell. Yeah, okay, he is. So
is Steph Curry and he's coming back from his sprained ankle,
missing the last six games. Curry will return tomorrow night
against the Atlanta Hawks, but the team holding out Kevin Durant,
Draymond Green, and Clay Thompson, some dealing with soreness, others
dealing with injuries, but at least at least Steph Curry

(01:57:55):
is back for the Warriors. I think they like that
to seed. I think they know that's what they're gonna get,
and I think they're trying to be healthy. The question
is can they turn it on? Can they be remember
the clapper, Remember clap on clapp? Can they be team
clapper and just got start playing? We'll find out, Stevey.
How about this from women's hoops, Yukon women's basketball coach
Gina Oriama, coming to the defense of one of his

(01:58:16):
former players and assistant coaches, To Elliott, was fired as
Cincinnati women's coach after nine years. Oriama tweeted out positively
disgraceful that Elliott was let go at Cincinnati. Anyone interested
in that job would be well advised to do their
homework end quote. I bring it up, Doug, because it's
interesting to see a head coach talk against another program

(01:58:39):
in the public eye, like, yeah, I mean that that
never happens. That absolutely, positively never happens that you talk
about it now having played for him, Um, they end
up finishing what nineteen and thirteen I believe, which is
not terrible. Their first back to back winning seasons in
like thirteen years. I think it was. Yeah, that strikes

(01:59:01):
me as odd. And unless she did something wrong, just
like it's like women's basketball, you can do it kind
of forever and if you're just above average, you're fine.
I just think it's interesting. I think in his in
his stature will also carry his words. No Clarry wait.
Dan Hurley leaving Rhode Island to be the new man's
basketball coach at Connecticut getting a six year deal. It

(01:59:21):
is really cool. I'm I'm fascinated to see if you
can get this. It's gonna be hard. The American Athletic
Conference is are hard. It's got great coaches in the
league for the man on the men's side, but man,
it's the travel is tough. The bottom is not particularly good,
nor is it. It's not a sexy league, and Ukon's
got some money issues. But Dan has been able to
do more with less at Rhode Island and at Wagner.

(01:59:44):
I assume he'll do the same a Yukon another season
like that, they're gonna be called. You can't all the
audience like that. Thank you, thank you very much. I
appreciate that. The Louisville Courier Journal says Xavier coach Chris
Mac we'll interview with Louisville officials on Saturday about that
men's basketball coaching vacancy. Everybody always leaves Xavier, right who

(02:00:06):
the thought was that he's a Xavier player, he won't
but you know, uh, from Pete going to Skip Prosper
to Thad Mata to Sean Miller, they all they all leave,
and they all leave because you can't make three four
million dollars there and Louisville you can well if he
does leave, in returns they can play Return of the
Mac at Xavier for years. And yeah, there we go. Um,

(02:00:30):
how about a golf clap? All right, Well let's start golf.
Tony Robo update. Remember a five over par round of
seventy seven today for Tony was nervous. I think I
knew going in that I was going to be trying
to rely on your mechanics and your fundamentals and just swinging.
We had it fine, but you know, I three putted
like three times, you know, twice early in the round,
and that's just nerves and hopfilling. Get that out of

(02:00:52):
the way and come back and play better tomorrow. Romo
right now at a time for one D and twenty
seven at the Coralis Championship on the Peag Tour. M hmm,
it's uh that's uh suboptimal and uh ok, I know
you're gonna touch out some Sweet sixteen action. But four
games tonight, if you didn't know, South Region loyal or

(02:01:14):
Chicago taking on Nevada, case State goes up against Kentucky,
Michigan will take out Texas A and M in the
West Region in l A, with the late game being
Florida State against Kansas, Nevada, Loyola. Pick one'll give me
the wolf Pack. I'll take them as well. A and M.
Michigan Michigan two and a half point favorite. Pick one
A and M. I'm going to take them as well.
Kansas State Kentucky Kentucky a five point favorite. Give me

(02:01:35):
the Wildcats. Which one? That was a joke, Kentucky, Okay,
I'm gonna take Kansas. Stay in that one. Florida State
Gonzaga Gonzaga six point favorite. Does of now, um, Gonzaga
six is a lot of points, A lot of points.
I'll take them as well. I think that was the
only one that was the press. So the only one

(02:01:56):
we differ on, the only one we differ on is
case case case date Kentucky on there you go. Did
you see this? There's lots of form. We had Penny
Hardaway on. Did you see Walter McCarty is the new
head coach at Evansville. I did see that. Yes, from
Evansville was on the Celtics staff, right, Walter McCarty I
played in Kentucky famously. He and Calbert Cheney, another Evansville guy.

(02:02:19):
Evansville has produced a bunch of players, but kind of interesting.
All these guys that like we grew up watching play
are not gonna be like but you're like, got Pat
you doing over there? You got Chris Mullen, you got
Penny Hardaway. Remember Evansville used to have the sleeve sleeve jerseys, right,
they had to get in parish case beer. I think
he led the country in scoring. They had sleeve jerseys,
the Evansville Aces sleeve jerseys. They also had a terrible

(02:02:42):
plane crash. I think back in the late seventies, late seventies.
I think I think they lost their team in a
plane crash. Um Udoka as a Bouquet will return without
restrictions to tomorrow for Kansas Kansas of course, his chance
Kansas Duke and only eight. That would be that would

(02:03:02):
be a dream for the n c A folks. I'll
be hosting the Herd tomorrow Dan and Jonas Dan. Dan
will be manning the Fort with Jonas Knox from noon
to three three or six Pacific Coast time. Don't forget
John Ramos, who will be pushing the wrong button at
the right time. Hey, better late than ever. Right, correct correct.

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