It's Time to Give Up on Kaepernick & Mark Schlereth

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for listening to The Doug Gottlieb Show podcast. Be
sure to catch us live every week day three to
six Eastern twelve to three Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.
Find your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at
Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every
day on the I Heart Radio app by searching fs
are you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up America,

(00:29):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Hope you're having just
a great day, getting you ready for a great Thanksgiving weekend.
Hopefully we your friends with your family or just with
friends giving. I don't know why we had to make
it friends giving. There was no family word in in
uh Thanksgiving before. But whatever, uh last, here we are

(00:52):
and we got hoops to talk about, We got college
football to talk about, and we have a lot of
NFL to talk about. Cowboys survived and look like they're
putting themselves in position to make the playoffs in the
NFC East. And one reason is because the Eagles um
heavy as the head that wears a crown, right, I

(01:13):
guess they're not having that much fun with all the
losing this year. Remember that member Lane Johnson and oh
we just have more fun here in New England. Look
at the two teams now, and then, of course you
have the Washington Redskins who lost Alex Smith and it
is remarkable history. With Alex Smith breaking his ankle, yesterday's gross. Um,

(01:34):
I've told you before, I'm a number three. If you
don't know what number one, number two, number three is,
here's the quick breakdown. Number one is. I don't want
to see it. You may have told me a guy
got hurt, but I don't want to see it. You
can just tell me about it verbally confirmed that there
was an injury. You can even describe it. I don't
want to see it. Type two I want to see
it once. Let me just check it out once so
I know what everybody's talking about. Type three is, Oh

(01:56):
that's gross. Can I see it again? Can I see
it again? Can I see it again? It's three types
people in this world. I am type three, so I'm
not squeamish. I've seen Alex Smith break his leg, break
his ankle. It was gross. I've also I've watched enough
sports now to know that Gordon Hayward, though still tentative,
is back. Paul George, though he was tentative his first

(02:18):
year back is a man as a max contract guy,
so you can come back from it. But inevitably, inevitably
what happens is as soon as a player gets hurt
at quarterback in the National Football League, as soon as

(02:40):
it happens, people say something that they just can't let
go of. This is what happens. Alex Smith goes down
with an injury and immediately they say, Cohen Kaepernick. He
would be an amrazing, he would be incredible, Like Okay, well, um,

(03:10):
here's the thing. You're gonna have to let the Kaepernick
thing go. It's just not going to happen though. Writers,
though tweeters, people get on the bird and um, they
want to relate it somehow. Two, the protest and the

(03:32):
controversy which is ensued. The fact is that in football
and frankly in business, when you have a short term job,
you go with what you know, even if it's not
the best possible option out there. Now, the first thing
about Kaepernick is, let's not kid ourselves. It's been several

(03:54):
years since he was any good in the NFL in
terms of his actual skill. He's had multiple surgery, since
he's had multiple opportunities since and he has never He
has not recaptured the luster of the career gone. But
even that doesn't matter where that's getting caught up in
the weeds. The first thing is that Mark Sanche is
gonna sign there. And you may think of Sanchez as

(04:16):
the butt fumble. You may think that Sanchez isn't a
great quarterback, and there's even a good quarterback, And there
are parts of me that will agree with you. I'll
also tell you that whatever you want to say about
Kaepernick's career, in his rise and though he was way
more productive and dominant at at for a period of time,
um did he win four road playoff games in his career?

(04:37):
He didn't. But the reason that Mark Sanchez is gonna
sign with Redskins is he knows the system. He's worked
with people in the system before. Con Kaepernick doesn't con
himsim In the league, the job of the backup quarterback
is not just too if if he plays, be the
best option at quarterback? Can you be the best option

(04:58):
for that team? And oh yeah, by the way, that's
worst case scenario. If your starter gets hurt, Culp McCoy
is the starter. The job of the backup is to
get the starter ready. And you can't get the starter
ready if you don't know the offense yourself. I've talked
to several quarterback people within the league, offensive coordinators, quarterback coaches,

(05:19):
and they all say the same thing. Familiarity is the
most important thing, the most important thing in playing quarterback. Familiarity.
It's it's one of the things that's irritating Aaron Rodgers.
Forget about the fact he doesn't love their offense. He
has had guys, some of these younger wide receivers that
don't know what they're doing or where they're supposed to be,

(05:41):
where they're lined up. Aaron Rodgers knows the offense like
the back of his hands. He knows exactly where guys
are supposed to be and when they're not supposed to be.
So you're just gonna have to let it go. Regardless
of the fact that Kaepernick has no ties to Washington
Redskins coaching staff, which makes it not even a phone

(06:01):
call they would make. Regardless of the fact that, um,
there's the politics of it suing the league, which hasn't
stopped Eric Reed from getting a job. The truth through
it is it's one of those things that is so
far gone that you're gonna have to stop asking about it,
writing about it, tweeting about it. It's over. It's like,

(06:25):
how long what is the statute of limitations on the
Seahawks or Seahawks fans talking about it? They should have
given if they would have given the ball to Marshawn Lynch, Well,
you know, we would have given the ball to marsha
On Lynches just you know, the same exact year, a
game before the Green May packagers thinking, you know, how

(06:46):
we recovered an onside kick. We would have been the
Patriots in the Super Bowl. And you could say, well, yeah,
you had had to play the Patriots in Super Bowl. Go,
that's fine. You you get like six months to be
mad in the off season, and then if you if
you fail in the next season, you an't draw upon
Well we didn't give marsha lence and football. But they
have and they didn't get over it, just like the
Kaepernick truthers in their own mind can't get over that

(07:09):
he's not in the league. I'm not gonna even I'm
not gonna dwell upon the fact that he was pulled
as a starter because he wasn't personable and he wasn't
e grace she himself to his teammates. Forget about the
fact that he showed his limitations in in scrambling too
often and only to his right, and having small hands
and having trouble changing arm angles and reading a defense.

(07:31):
Forget about all that. Just the idea of, Hey, once
you've been on a league for a couple of years
and nobody's calling it's over. I'm willing to to say
it's over with Tony Romo, who was a better quarterback
for a longer period of time with the Dallas Cowboys,
but once he did a year in the booth with
with CBS, like it was over. Now he's a year

(07:52):
and a half in, it's it's it's a that's a rap, kids.
This is like election guy, Well, you know the Russians
and they I'm not saying you can't investigate how whatever
happened happened, just like if I'm if, if you're if
you're calling Kaepernick you want to investigate whether or not

(08:12):
people colluded to keep you out of the league, that's fine.
But the second Alx Smith goes down, you go like, wow, Kaepernick,
they're not bringing him in. It's over. Once you say it.
You've gone to crazy town and anybody with a brain
just stops listening to you. Just like if you want
to bring up anything Seattle does now you're like, well
they give it to Marshall Lynch. It's over. It's been

(08:35):
over for a long time. You're that guy. You're a
Laker fan that says, you know, if if Ah David
Stern would let us have Chris Paul, we would have
like Kobe would have like eleventy billion rings. It's over.

(08:56):
There's nothing worse than the guy that can't get a
for the girl. She took two kids and she left.
It's been a year, divorces finalized. It's over. She's not
coming back. She's got another guy living in the house. Dude,
Now it means you don't want them to call you,

(09:19):
them to call him dad. So figure it out. Get
yourself together, get back to work, show up were you're
supposed to show up, be a parent, and have a life.
But we get caught up in these stuff. We we
just have this. We get caught up in things political things.

(09:40):
You get fired from a job and you had a
bad boss, and you want to bitch and complain, like, dude,
it's it's kaepernickers, you have to have an ex play
mentality because you are worrying about a play that is
several years old. It's been since two thousand fifteen. That
was when he was last good. It's about to be

(10:01):
two thousand nine. I don't know what the um. I
don't know how long you're supposed to be a lot
of the statute of limitations is, but I'm gonna tell
you it has run out. On the Kaepernick discussion. Alex
Smith is a good quarterback. There's nothing great about him,

(10:23):
but he's good. He slid, is a really good regular
season quarterback. And Cope McCoy who was once upon a
time a starter. Cope McCoy, who remember his arm went
dead the National Championship came like I never thought he's
he he would be great. But he has all the intangibles,
all the relatability, and all of the knowledge of that offense,

(10:45):
in addition to the personal quirks and not playing football
and not knowing the offense and putting it trying to
sign a guy admits it's just not gonna happen, just not.
It's not colluding. When the league has agreed his time
has passed, right, Ray Rice's time has passed, Terrell Owen's

(11:09):
time has passed. For varying a myriad of reasons. But
when a wide receiver goes down, if you say you
should bring in t O, I stopped listening to you.
When a running back goes down, if you think they
should bring in Ray Rice, I've stopped listening to you.
And when a quarterback goes down, if you believe they
should bring in Colin Kaepernick, I stopped listening to you.

(11:31):
It's not because they weren't good. It's just because whatever
window of opportunity they had to play in the National
Football League, which also stands for not for long, that
window is closed. And when you keep bringing it up,
you keep bringing it up. We all stopped listening to
you because you've gone to crazy town. That's what you've done.

(11:53):
Doug gotlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. Trent Dilford
is going to join us up coming next. I want
to ask him about the Bears. Has he seen enough
from Mitch Drabinsky to think, you know what that defense
we know is awesome, but Drabinsky is good enough if
they get behind, Plus, it feels like a shootout tonight.

(12:16):
And generally when we see a shootout. We think we're
going to see a shootout, it ends up being like
ten nine. What happens in l A. We break down
with Trent Dilfer. He joins us next, but first, using
true car, you can easily find the car that you want.
True Car has True Price from true Car, where you
can avoid the confusion you encounter online by getting a
great price you can count on before you ever visit

(12:37):
a dealership. The true price includes all dealer fees and accessories,
and true car will show you what other people in
your area pay for the car that you want. That way,
you'll know what a fair price is, so you can
feel confident and they can set their true price competitively
and win your business. It's basically like if a realtor
lays out comps for you. That's what this is. You

(12:58):
pick the make you picked them, do, you pick the accessories,
and you get what everybody else in your area pay
for the exact same car. Over three million cars have
been sold a True Car users using the true Car
Certified Dealer network, and there were fifteen thousand True Car
certified dealers nationwide. True car users save on average over
three thousand dollars off m s r P doesn't sound

(13:20):
like the easiest, smartest way to buy a car, You're
right it is. So when you're rated buy a new
or used car vis a true Car, you enjoy more
confident car buying experience. Be sure to catch live editions
of the Doug dot Leap Show weekdays in noon eastern
three pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app brought to you by Progressive Insurance. This year,

(13:41):
Progressive celebrates six years and over six hundred cars given
to veterans, giving thanks by providing independence for those who
protect it. Learn more at Keys to Progress dot com,
Doug Otlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. All right, let's get
to some guys who actually will play in the National
Football League. Uh, tonight we have Monday Night football. We

(14:03):
have the Rams, we have the Chiefs. We have the
game that everybody's been waiting for and excited about, except,
of course, the folks in Mexico City who couldn't appear
to get their stuff together so that we could have
the game in Mexico City. Instead, we'll have it in
l A. Trent Dilfer's Super Bowl Champion Quarterback Guru. Find
them on Twitter at Dilfer's dimes and check out the

(14:25):
Elite eleven dot com, the nation's premier quarterback competition. Um,
all right, let's let's start with with the Chiefs. How
do you stop this offense? If you're the Rams, Well,
you gotta you gotta keep in front of you. Um,
you gotta somehow trying to minimize the big Place. And
now traditionally about the zones, but to me, it's mixing

(14:48):
up zones and zone dogs. You gotta force the ball
out of mahomes hand quickly before Tyreek kill can take
the top off, before they can spread your thin and
then play passive defense behind it. Um, you can't play man.
And I think that's the big thing to look for
tonight is that Kansas City is just feasted off. Teams

(15:08):
have tried to man up and I've tried to play
pressure man's because they isolate their athletes on lesser athletes
in the middle of the field. And if you look
at a lot of the Big Place, most of them
come in the middle of the field because they get
these matchups their advantageous form. And what's interesting about that
is Wade Phillips, I think we talked about this last week,
has been through his career stubborn about playing man defense.

(15:31):
He's a five man pressure man team. Uh that's his
history and that's what Kansas City has absolutely torqued. So
if the Rams choose to be stubborn, I said, they
get gashed if they choose to change, because they have
the personnel to play zone covers. They have a great
front four that can rush the past without bringing extra people.
They have linebackers that can play zone and play match zones.

(15:55):
They have safeties that have um range. They have corners
that will tackle you you know, play cover two and
come up and tackle. So they actually have personnel to
play solid zone defense. They're gonna have to do it
to contain the Chiefs. What about the Rams they lose
Cooper Cup, there's the thought that Josh Reynolds can fit
in quite nicely. I don't think he's Cooper Cup, but

(16:17):
he does. He's a decent player. Okay, So with that,
with that mind, um, this is the Chiefs defense that
it doesn't look I can stop anybody on the other end.
You know, when healthy, they can rush the passers. And
they've had so many leads that allows them to kind
of hide some of their weaknesses. With you the Rams,
How do you take advantage of the Chiefs defense. I

(16:37):
think it's fascinating because the Rams will be able to
move the ball and they're aility to pretty much anything
they want to do if they protect Jared Goff. But
do you want to do it quickly or do you
want to do it methodically? I almost think you're gonna
see a Sean McVeigh come out and be more Death
by a thousand cuts in his approach to calling plays
run play action but instead of take shots, you know,

(17:01):
Nicol and Diamond death, a lot of four to eight
yard plays, a twelve yard play here and there, making
sure they possessed the ball as they moved the ball. Uh,
it's it's the way Bill Walsh called offensive football, the
way Josh McDaniels calls offensive football. Sorry, Mike Holmgren would
call it that. When they had a lot of confidence
going into a game that they would be able to

(17:21):
move the ball, they were also respectful of the other
side of the ball, knowing that hey, we're gonna move
the ball, we're gonna move the chains, we're gonna score points,
where we're gonna do it in such a fashion where
our defense can be on the sideline, resting, getting ready
to face this other high, high offense. So I think
that chess match of how McVeigh calls the game, the

(17:42):
type of plays they call, how many carries Girly gets,
how many touches Girly gets, because Girly can get a
lot of touches outside the run game. Also, I think
we'll be really interested in this game. Doug glic Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's go back to to yesterday. Um,
how is it the Drew Brees seems to be playing
even better now than he has previously in his career

(18:02):
and he's thirty nine years old. Well, he's always been
a master, um obviously, but now he's got he's got
such great support too, and he can be masterful when
it matters the most. He's not being asked to carry
all the water. He's not being asked to convert a
massive number of third downs. He's not being asked to
march the ball eight yards with seven passes. It's a

(18:25):
very balanced attack. They run the ball with amazing efficiency. Um.
They're very physical upfront, and they allow him to do
a lot of play action where he can turns back
to the defense come back, pick one guy and let
it rip. He's not having a change a ton of
protections with the line of scrimmage. Um, they have a
lot of offense that they have at their disposal, and

(18:46):
he can get to the best play possible on those
early downs. There's a lot of times you see him
come up. I don't know if it's run or pass,
but he he audibles and he gets him into a
run and that takes a great That takes a huge
burden off the quarterback and having to are you the
water all the time, So now when he pierces you,
it has a greater impact. I mean, it's it's masterful

(19:07):
how he's playing. But again he's only having the volume
is lest, the burden is less. He's had so much
help around him. Trend deal for joining us in the
Doug Gallup Show. All right, Then then we go to
the other side. What's wrong with the Eagles? Well, it's
a big story. Actually I think it's uh the thirty

(19:28):
excuse me, The thirty thousand foot answer would be they
didn't press the recept button fast enough. Um, I didn't
have the honor of being able to try to repeat
with my Ravens team. But I've talked to a lot
of my friends, both players and coaches that have not
done the repeat road well, and that I have done
the repeat road well. And what they'll all tell you
is the ones that didn't do it well, they poured

(19:50):
perfume on themselves, path themselves on the back for too long.
They looked in the rear view mirror they said, well,
we didn't like this last year, so it'll be the
same this year. Or they lost the little bit of
their edge in the off season, They lost a little
bit of their chip that fueled the fire for them
to win the championship the year before. The teams that
have repeated well have gone on that run well are

(20:12):
the teams that press the reset button really quick. They
realized after February, Hey, we gotta do it all over again.
There's no carryover. Just because we did it last year
doesn't mean anything for this year. And we have to
recreate that bunker mentality, recreate that chip on our shoulder,
re established that edge that got us there and that
carries them through the following season that has its evan

(20:34):
flows and challenges. Well, the Eagles were parting into the summer,
I mean they were still walking about and talking about
everything great that had happened to him the year before.
And I think that's why the thirty foot thing. And
then I think, drilling down a little deeper, I think
losing Frank Wright's a huge deal and you can just
see it in their offensive production. And then look at

(20:55):
Annapolis and what they're doing, um from an offensive standpoint,
and then I think there is real stuff like injuries
and they've been banged up, They've had a few more
injuries and everybody else. And you add those three things
together and this is what you get tying deal for
joining us in the Doug Otlip Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. Cowboys find a way uh settle on a

(21:17):
late field goal. Win on a late field goal? Are
they Are they getting better? Or is it the competition?
Isn't the stuff? Well? I think there there are a
flection of their quarterback. They're a high floor, low ceiling team,
and that's what Doc is at this point of his career.
He's a high floor, low ceiling quarterback. And their team
reflects that. Like I said, they are. They do a
lot of really good stuff. Doc does a lot of

(21:39):
really good stuff. There's a lot to like about the
Dallas Cowboys. Now, is there enough to like that? You
think they can go on a championship run? Heck no.
But they're definitely a team that's gonna make some noise
in a crappy division, the NFC East. They're a team
that can probably get in the playoffs, and they get
the right matchup in the NFC, can maybe even steal
a game. And that's good for what the Cowboys have

(21:59):
been recently. But again, let's put in the right context.
High floor, low ceiling, Just like their quarterbacks, try and
deal for joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. You
and I both love Philip Rivers. Love he's had a
great season. What in the hell was he doing yesterday?
Spiking the football? Uh? When all he had to do

(22:23):
was take a knee. I think he's asked himself the
same question. You saw him as soon as it came
out of his hand. It's almost like I had a
string on it, like he was trying to pull it back.
And I trust me, we've all had those. You probably
shot a few free throws or jumpers that way. Where
right is it leaving the finger? You're like, oh, what
am I doing? And you know, great players make bone

(22:45):
head and mistakes, and I bet you he was the
first person to own up to it. And he's had
he know this has happened to him over his career. Well,
he'll play incredible on the Monday night and make the
one mistake that just you can't believe of a guy
with his expertise would make. And I think he's so
emotionally so far, he's so hyper competitive that sometimes that

(23:08):
gets in the way of discretion. And that would be
my explanation for how that possibly could happen. Yesterday you
mentioned Frank Reich um in if there's a pie right on,
who's most responsible for the resurgence of the Colts? Where
does Frank Raich Andrew Luck, the offensive line, the gentle manager?

(23:29):
How do you? How do you break up that pie?
I'd give and I'm usually more of a balanced pie guy,
and I use this analogy all the time, but in
this situation, I'd give him sixty to seventy of the pie.
And this is why, because he came into a very
difficult situation, a turnover and personnel, a quarterback that had
missed the season and there was question marks about his health,

(23:51):
um a city that was questioning how in the hell
did this just happen losing Josh McDaniels. And it takes
the right type of temperament, the right type of wisdom,
the right type of communicator to come in and settle
that ship. Then to get the most out of the
best and the most out the least is the definition

(24:11):
of great coaching. And that's what Frank Reich has done.
He's gotten the best from his best players, and then
he's gotten the most from the least of his players.
And you do all that and you're working with the
GM that you had no prior relationship with. That's a
massive job. That's as big a job as anybody has
in the NFL, and he's handled it incredibly well. You

(24:32):
mentioned relationship with the general manager. What's interesting is um UH,
their general manager is close friends with Matt Naggi, who
turned down the job, right Nagie. They were together in
Kansas City and their sons were friends. I was bringing
up people who think as soon as Alex Smith goes down, like, oh,

(24:52):
Colin Kaepernick. I was like, well, he doesn't know anybody
in the staff, he's never been in the system. It's
nearly impossible for somebody who has it well traveled and
isn't currently playing football to come up to speed. I
feel like if you mentioned Kaepernick, it shows your lack
of knowledge for health pro football works. Is that two harsh?
Is that fair? I think it's fair. I'm a meddalist

(25:15):
on that conversation. I've kind of stayed out of it.
To me, Colin Kaepernick could be a great backup quarterback.
That's kind of always been my stance. But I understand
why teams haven't pursued him that way. I understand the
overall dynamic. Um. I think a lot of times this
conversation gets brought up to for kind of clickbait and

(25:36):
for knee jerk reaction. I think the NFL works this
way if you if they think you can help the
team get better, not just from an athletic standpoint, but
the locker room, the camaraderie, the role. A lot of
times it's roles. You're you're going to identifying guys that
can fill a role. That role may not be to
move the chage or score points. That role may be

(25:56):
to be the best look of being Tom Brady and
and Anc East quarterbacks during the week and scout team.
That may be a big body tight end that can
sub as a tackle uh and show team stuff, but
never really going to play a guy that can help
you on special teams. So are we feeling a role
to help her team or we just accumulating as much
flashy talent as possible. And I think that's what people

(26:19):
don't understand is every decision a front office coaching staff makes,
they're looking at it from a lot of different angles,
and one of and the most the primary angle isn't
always well, he's the best player out there a lot
of times, it's that he's the guy that can help
us the most. It's a great point, Lamar Jackson. Is
it sustainable the way they're going to use him in
Baltimore Tech? No, come on, if you run your quarterback

(26:43):
ten times a game in the NFL, it's not sustainable.
You'll let alone twenty seven. Now, I will say this,
and I've been saying this for years. I said this
back when Kaepernick before he's playing for Alex Smith. If
you are a dynamic runner with now the rules and
the zone read being so vogue and r p o
s and all these cool Saturday things, and you're a

(27:04):
limited passer at one stage of your career, you're the
perfect backup quarterback because now when you're starters hurt, you
can throw an entire new offense that the defense has
no idea how to prepare for, has not played against. It,
doesn't understand their alignment, assignment and rules that go with it.
And you can really have impact a game or two,

(27:25):
but you can't do it weekend and week out. Now
I'm not saying Lamar Jackson can't do this long term,
like if he develops and becomes better from the pocket,
but I watched that game on Sunday and I had
anxiety because it was so frenetic. It was fun, but
it was frenetic and it and you just know watching
it you can't play that style of football long term.

(27:47):
You can played the game or two. So this Lamar
Jackson takes over the team for the rest of the year. Okay,
that might sound great because it looks good on Sunday,
but let's see all looks in three weeks when he's
got seven, third and seven that he has to drop back,
change your protection, get to the second receiver, handle a blitz.
You don't handle high level quarterback in which he just

(28:08):
hasn't done a lot of. I think one day he'll
be able to do it, but right now isn't that time?
Trent Dilfer check him out and del ferst dimes on Twitter.
Go the Elite eleven. That's the nation's premier quarterback camp.
T d thanks for joining us enjoin the football tonight.
I have a great thanks for having do same to you.
Trent Dilfer, one of the all time great guests. Love

(28:30):
when he joins us. Every week here in the Doug
Gottlip Show, Dan Buyer's gonna headed to Vegas. He gets
the winner of Tiger and Phil. That's what I've heard.
No money at stake. You don't get the money, you
just get the winner. That'd be great, just just to
play golf. I mean I'd lose pretty easily. Yeah, it would.
It would be over quick, Dug, it would be over quick.
I don't think tonight's gonna be over quick. I think
we could have a decent one involved with the Chiefs

(28:53):
and Rams at the l A Coliseum eight fifteen Eastern
time to nine and one teams going at it at
the coliseum. Of course, this game was moved last week
because of the poor playing conditions at a Steca Stadium
in Mexico. City. The league did announced today they will
play a regular season game there next year, Chiefs and
Rams tonight, though in l A Sammy Watkins, Chiefs wide receiver,

(29:13):
questionable to play because of a foot injury. Some other
injury news of the NFL. The Redskins have signed quarterback
Mark Sanchez to back up Colt McCoy following Alex Smith's
broken leg, and they lost to the Texans. Tests on
the knee of Lions running back Carria Johnson revealed the
nie sprain. He could miss a game or two, according
to the NFL Network. In Jets quarterback Sam Donald missed
practice today he tries to return from a foot injury.

(29:35):
As they faced the Patriots in Week twelve, Jets had
to buy in Week eleven. In College Hoops number eight,
Auburn's on top of Xavier thirty three to twenty eight
at the half of their quarterfinal matchup at the Maui Invitational.
Earlier today at the Cayman Classic Number sixteen, Clemson dropped
Akron seventy two to sixty nine. The Tampa Bay Lightning
take on the Nashville Predators at eight o'clock Eastern time,

(29:55):
and tonight's Discover Card key matchup. Speaking of matchups, become
a new card member and Discover Card will match all
the cash back you've earned dollar for dollar at the
end of your first year. Learn more at discover dot com.
Slash match limitations apply. Finally, Pacers Card Victor Oladipo won't
play that night against the Jazz because of a knee injury. Doug,
I appreciate that Dan online car shopping can be confusing.

(30:16):
Not any more true price from true carnw you know
the exact price you'll pay for your next vehicle. VI
is the true car you enjoy more confident car buying
experienced Lamar Jackson did get the win last night or
yesterday afternoon? Did you notice on his opening drive they
threw zero passes? Zero passes? Um, Look the they're telling

(30:38):
you it's We talked about this all the time that
in relationships and in sports and in business, it's not
what they say, it's what they do. Right. If your
boss really believes in you, then he will give you
a new project on your own or put you in
charge of something. Now listen, I think you're one of

(31:00):
the bright, young, raising rising stars. Well, look, I really
like this. Well you know we're just not ready for
that yet. The same thing, you can tell her how
much you care about it, but it sometimes about showing her.
You can tell me how good a dad you are.
Unless you're there, can't be a good parent, like absentee
parenting is really his impossible. So you can tell me, hey, all,

(31:23):
Lamar Jackson, we really like him, and they may really
like him, but they're using him like a backup quarterback.
That is not you heard from trend Over. That is
not a sustainable style in any way. Now, they won
the football game, and they kept themselves in the discussion,

(31:44):
and it was a great win against the Bengals. They
needed it. But you're playing the worst defense in football,
you're off of by you're at home, and your quarterback
carries it twenty seven times? How many times? I mean, Look,
if you want to say we did it with Kaepernick,

(32:06):
that's great. Greg Roman did do it with Kaepernick, and
ultimately Kaepernick got hurt and got exposed. Robert Griffin the
third and got hurt. Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson, he got hurt,
but it was more he was in a non contact
but he got hurt. And he's been hurt twice Mike Vick.

(32:28):
Remember when Mike Vick got hurt, came off his MVP season,
got hurt in the preseason. So the Bengals credited the
Ravens because they probably want to make this move going
back before the bye week and knowing that they had
the bye week, but no one knew anything, supposedly until

(32:48):
a day or two before. She's not enough time to
prep for a completely different style. But the idea that
you can throw and he's not a big dude once
you play a legit d defense and you do it
over weeks short term. Yet, do you remember jacolee Brissette
two years ago, what the Patriots do when they put

(33:10):
a minute quarterback when Jimmy Garoppolo got hurt, They ran
read option, you know, Julie Edelman through the ball a
couple of times. They did all this other stuff, but
they were hiding the fact that they didn't think he
could throw. It's not what you say, it's what you do.
And when Lamar Jackson comes in and runs the ball

(33:31):
twenty seven times, they're telling you they don't believe he
can throw. They're telling you they don't believe he can
read a defense. So they're gonna read it for him,
and the only thing better than playing the Bengals is
playing the Raiders, who they have next week. And then
they go to the Falcons, who stink as well. Defensively,
they don't play good defense until they play the Chargers
on the road. The twenty seconds of separate. But it

(33:53):
wasn't that I wasn't impressed by Lamar Jackson. I just
wasn't impressed that he'll be a starting quarterback long term.
The Saints went forward on fourth down when they're up
thirty one points against the Eagles yesterday. Big deal, Little
deal or no deal? Find out next. Be sure to
catch live editions of the Doug Dot Leaps Show week
days at noon eastern three pm Pacific. Car shopping can

(34:16):
be confusing with terms like dealer price, Liz price, an
invoice price. True Car shows what other people paid for
the car you want. You can recognize a good price
when you're ready to buy a new or use car.
Visit True Car and enjoy more confident car buying experience.
Doug Gottlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. I'm getting tweets the
Saint the military, NFL hates individuals. You're right, they want

(34:39):
to win football games. Look, I don't want to make
this into the Kaepernick Show, but this is really really simple.
You can't bring in Colin Kaepernick the Redskins. He doesn't
know the offense, he hadn't played football in a couple
of years. He wasn't good when he last played football.
And oh yeah, by the way, if you bring a
guy in to be the backup who wants to be
the starter, and they'll be people in the media and

(35:00):
social media who want him to be the starter, that
it undercuts the starter. If you're not smart enough to
understand that that's how it works, then you should step
away from a sports conversation. It's over. What's that drop
you always play Ramos? It's over, Johnny. It's over, Johnny.

(35:23):
It's over election. Dude, gotta get over it. Bro, it's
been two years. It's over. Hey, like your guy, the
Chris Chris Paul Like, it's it's over. It's not happening,
not working. I'm not gonna happen, Caperti guy, it's over.

(35:48):
Don't bring up his name every time a dude gets hurt.
He had a chance in Baltimore and his girlfriends screwed
it up, Like, oh, what is this dude his girl
and put out a a post calling the owner, you know,
a lading the the owner of the Baltimore Ravens to

(36:09):
a character on Django Unchange, unchained. They come on. You
know what people really don't like being called is a racist,
especially when they're not a racist. It's over, let it go,
it's over, Jenny. Let's get to the game bag. This

(36:33):
is game time side on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Um,
The Doug gotlie Show is brought to you by Discover Card.
We treat you like you to treat you Dan BYO.
What's the game? The game today is big deal, little deal,
no deal? All right, Doug, big deal, little deal or
no deal that The NFL announced today that they will

(36:56):
return to play a game in Mexico City in ten. Yeah.
This is like when somebody cancels a concert, right because
he got larryn JADUs or something like we'll make it
back up. Never the same. Although I saw Michael Jackson
his bad tour, and the only reason I got to
see him was because he was sick the time before.
So um, yeah, I mean we'll give you something next year. No,

(37:19):
we're not gonna give you ramps and cheese. Next year,
we'll give you, um, we'll give you Raiders. Who else
is gonna be bad again next year? Raiders bills? Raiders bills, Yeah,
for sure, that's that's musty. Well the sails bills. Fans
will come and they'll they will they will drink you
out of tequila. You will make a lot of money

(37:40):
back on the bills fans drinking tequila. What was it
last year that it was Raiders? Patriots? Yes, that played. Yeah,
they've got in some good games in Mexico. A big deal,
little deal or no deal? Doug that the Saints went
for it on fourth and seven up thirty one points
early in the fourth quarter in their route of the
Eagles on Sunday, that felt like a pretty big deal.
It felt like an f you. Now, look, I understand

(38:02):
they were, um, they were in that kind of no
man's land of punt or go for it, but that
felt like an f youk Lebron James did the same
thing last night. I don't know if Miami saw it
was the last night with the Miami when when he's
playing in Miami and you know, the night before they
played Orlando and he took off, he unlaced his shoes

(38:24):
in the third quarter when they were down big, like
he gave no effort because he was saving up from Miami.
Then he has forty eight. Eric Spolster called time out
to help him get out of the game. He doesn't
check out of the game. Instead, he shoots it shot.
Clock was running down, but he shoots it, but like
seventeen seconds ago, hits a three to give him fifty one,
which felt a little like an f you there too,
big deal, a little deal or no deal that it
was reported the Browns were interested in interviewing Condoleeza Rice

(38:47):
for their head coaching job, a report that was shot
down by both sides soon after it was put out. Yeah,
this this feels like it was either a joke or
something said in passing. It's a no deal thing, zero chance. Listen.
I understand that we want women to be more involved
in sports. We do. I've worked with many, many talented

(39:08):
women who deserve the right in the right circumstance to
get the right opportunity sports radio, sports TV, whatever, Okay,
But the idea that I forget it. Even if it
wasn't Conda Lisa Rice, but if he had never played football,
coach football you're just a football fan man or woman.

(39:30):
Good luck with that. I thought I thought it was
a report which Adam Schefter took as real, and somebody
might have said in passing and he's like, really, you
guys really said Conda Liza Rice like yeah, he said it,
And honestly, John Dorsey might have said, like, why don't
we just bring in kind because he was the one
who kind of opened the door but didn't mean to
last week he was. It's one of them when you

(39:50):
try and say something that's inoffensive, you end up being
a mildly offensive to some people. Because he said like, wait, hey,
we'll get the great We want the best, the best guy,
and here you can. They're like best guys like well,
best person, like I don't care man or a woman,
and so you know, somebody like challenge him. I'm like, well,
did you talk to somebody? Like yeah, I don't know.
Right I look at it. I was like, yeah, do

(40:12):
you hear a Rice is interviewing for the Browns job?
Jerry Rice? No Condoleeza like that would have been whoa
that wouldn't That was that was way out there. That
actually dropped during the Fantasy Show yesterday and We had
to kind of stop in our tracks because of because
of that news Big deal, little deal or no deal,
Doug that Kansas won't allow Texas mascot Bevo to be
on the field for the game, and Lawrence Friday between

(40:34):
the long Horns and Jayhawks. Um, who won't let Kansas
it's a road game? And Lawrence but they don't allow
live animals on the field. And BiVO usually travels for
the Thanksgiving weak game, but won't this time for like
the second time in seventy some years. Wow, Um, they
she's just having grays outside right. Yeah, honestly there's room. Honestly,

(41:01):
like a cow pie has been better than most Kansas football.
Let's wrap up with this big deal, a little deal
or no deal that an ESPN reports is the Wizards
are making every player on their roster available for trade,
including John Waller Bradley Beal. I think it's a it's
a big deal because clearly there's something wrong with that team.

(41:22):
On the other hand, here's where it's not as big
a deal. Is sure, we'll trade him, what are you
gonna give us for him? And they'll want the moon,
the stars in the sun. This is game time on
the Duck Gottlieb Show. You know, I'm fascinated by one
team in the NFL. We watched him last night. The

(41:45):
Bears are seven three on the season, first place alone
the NFC North. How have they done it? I'll tell
you next in the Duck Gotlip Show. Fox Sports Radio
has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch
all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com
and within the eye Arte radio apps. Search f s
R to listen live. What Up Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox

(42:06):
Sports Radio? Mm hmmm. There are things that are said
in every locker room in the country. Um, I'm not
gonna criticize your chastise any player inn of these rivalry
games this week in college football that when they're asked
if they think they're gonna win by a reporter, they say, yes,

(42:27):
I think I'm gonna win, right, Like, do you really
think that any of these any kid, any adult, any
human being has any chance to success? If? Yeah, if
if you ask him, truth, are you gonna win this game?
They're like, not really, we got no shot. You go
to the n c A Tournament and obviously it's helped

(42:49):
by Maryland Baltimore County, NBC being Virginia. But even before that,
for the last twenty years, if you go into any
locker room, no matter how prohibitive and underdog, you hear
the coaches give the game plan to the team. They
may not say publicly, but probably they go like, look,
we win this game. Everybody is beatable. We just have
to execute, get a little fortunate and will be all right. So, um,

(43:14):
you will not hear on this show, I can't believe
and even the yeah, sure, I guarantee to win. And
even if you do the Rashid Wallace like, I guarantee
we are going to win this game. You're you're not
gonna do something incredible unless you have unwavering belief. Now
there's other things that have to go with it. You
don't win because of a guarantee. You don't lose because

(43:37):
of a guarantee. But but spreading the word that we're
gonna win this game is set in every locker room
in the country. You know what else you said? You
need to start past all right? You ever heard that
co coach what are the keys this week two? Beating

(43:57):
the Crimson Tide of Alabama? Well, you know we need
to start fast, Coach Wood of the keys this week
to be in the New England Patriots. Gotta start fast,
Coach Belichick, what are the keys as we go? Start fast? Right?
They all say we gotta start fast, But the Bears
actually half actually have when they uh. When they beat

(44:25):
the Seahawks start the year, they had a seven point
lead after like four or fifty five to go in
the first quarter, never trailed, started fast. When they played
the Buccaneers week four, they led thirty eight to three.
Dominated that game forty eight to ten. When they beat
the Jets, they didn't trail after the first quarter five

(44:47):
to go in the first quarter. Started fast. When they
beat the Bills, they were up twenty eight nothing, started fast.
They beat the Lions, are up twenty step twenty eight
nothing one. When they beat the Vikings week eleven, that's
this week fourteen nothing lead held on. Heck, the only
time they started fast and couldn't hold on with the
Packers week one, that's because well they had Aaron Rodgers

(45:08):
over the other side and some of the play calling
him mid strabiski. But the Bears have executed perfectly the
ideal scenario of starting fast, and when you start fast,
generally the other team gets out of their game plan.
When you start fast, you make that other team throw

(45:29):
the football more, which allows your pass rush to be
more effective because you get more opportunities. And when you
have Khalil Mack as well as several other talented defensive
uh defensive players up front, you're going to start fast
and you're gonna put yourself in optimal position to win
the game. The NBA is different. The NBA is like

(45:52):
everybody makes a run. Everybody seems to be tied at
some point in the fourth quarter, and then you know,
they call it a maker miss league, and the best
shot makers have a tendency to make more. The NFL,
on the other hand, it's about starting fast. It's about
starting fast because you can cover the holes in your defense,

(46:16):
cover the holes of your defense far better because offensive
coordinators get out of there, you know, get out of
their game plan. Quarterbacks try taking shots more. Quarterbacks will
hold on the ball a little bit more because they're
trying to push the ball down the field. And oh yeah,
by the way, all offenses made better when you have

(46:38):
a cushion, so you don't have you don't feel threatened
to have to get out of that game plan, have
to get out of your first fifth team plays. The
Chicago Bears are not a perfect team, and they're probably
not a super Bowl team because they'll probably trail at
some point an important game in the playoffs, and that

(46:59):
will ultimately be the I'm doing. But they have found
a way to perfectly execute that dream scenario of hey,
let's start fast. They've done it in most all of
their games, all their games. We got a really good
final two hours here of the Doug Gotlip Show. I
don't want to say great, that's that's kind of underselling it.

(47:20):
Um can I brag a little bit to you Ramos,
no brag, but or just maybe talk home. It is
called the Doug gotlip Shows, and it's so Here's been,
my Here's been. You know, two Sundays ago, I with
two Saturdays ago, right, I called Cincinnati's Xavier. Then the

(47:40):
next day I called Bengals. Um, I can't Bengals versus Saints.
Then I turned home. Monday Radio, Tuesday Radio in college
basketball studio, Wednesday, Cowher Radio, Red Eye, Chicago Radio College

(48:00):
Basketball game. Thursday, flew to through the flu to Blacksburg,
did the radio show Saturday, uh Twitter Show from Blacksburg
from it's called Tots Top of the Stairs since they're
big bar just off campus. Got a chance to see
Miami takedown Virginia Tech in Lane Stadium. It's pretty cool. Yesterday,

(48:22):
which is Sunday, I did the College Basketball Hall of
Fame induction ceremony. Today I called a game via satellite
from a studio here in Kansas City. Doing this game,
doing doing this show, going back, doing another game tonight,
and then I'm gonna go and pop in on probably
the second half of Texas Tech versus USC which is

(48:43):
at the Sprint Center in Kansas City. Tomorrow. Game in
the morning, which is from the Caymans. It's on Facebook
radio show Game in the afternoon. Wednesday. I'm gonna do
three games Thursday, Thanksgiving Day. I'm flying to Vegas late
Wednesday night, and then third day, do two games in
the morning. Fox Sports one. We have games all day,

(49:03):
great games at night. Friday, my games are in the
evening Saturday. I'll return home and in Sunday I'm gonna
call another NFL game. And my voice still holding up
pretty strong now. It helps Ron Moost that I don't
have my kids the yacht because you know, or or

(49:25):
Frankly Ryan Music, who's like another child, like basically my
fourth child. This is a good this is a good thing. Meanwhile,
Dan Buyer just gets to fly to Vegas and he's
gonna be doing an appearance and be at the Tiger
Woods versus Phil Mickelson Golf Challenge. Right, I'll have the
media event tomorrow. There's a there's a media availability for

(49:47):
some media members. I won't be there Friday because I'll
actually be in for you Friday here on the network.
But i'll be there tomorrow. You're coming back. You can't.
You can't do it from Vegas. Uh correct? Yeah, I
actually I gotta do a bunch of days here at Fox.
So wait, so do you get to interview Tiger? A
lot of it's still up in the air. I haven't

(50:08):
gotten the full rundown of what's going down. That The
whole idea of sending you there's like, hey, we're sending
that guy, Dan Buyer. He's great and he knows a
ton of golf. Yeah, don't have all the answers to
the questions you may have, but I will have a
lot of answers to the questions you have tomorrow. One. Okay,
if he has a press conference. At the end of

(50:28):
your you're gonna ask like a question, right and a
big coup win and then go up, Hey, Tiger, one more?
Can I get winners? Can I get I want winners? Okay?
Can you say that? Um, we'll think about it. We'll
run it by I don't know. Does that feel like
you know anybody else? I'll tell you what. I can't
give you an answer to that question that that's not
gonna happen. I'll probably pass the mica along. Why. I

(50:52):
don't know. You'd be like John a Costa. You just
want to ask questions, what about Russia? What of like
trying to rip the microphone from your hand. I'm looking
forward to tomorrow though. It should be fun. It should
be really really fun going to Vegas tonight and go
on Vegas tomorrow tonight. Yeah, after the show all I'll
just yeah, yes, yeah, a little. The wife was gonna

(51:18):
come along, but with the event tomorrow, then I just
fly back tomorrow night. It'll just be yeah, just me. Okay, Uh,
what are you gonna hit the crafts table, blackjack table,
sports book? Well, I'm not staying in one of those hotels.
I'm actually staying near the course where it's gonna be
taking place. So maybe I'll just go to the seven
eleven and play a slot machine or something. You're not

(51:39):
just gonna go like go downtown and go like, hey,
I saw a couple of lines, got leeves, got me
on some stuff. I want to go. I want to
go see you know your boys, the Seahawks. You're not
You're not gonna buy Seahawks in Carolina three and a
half point dogs. Yeah, like the Seahawks in that spot.
But I don't know if I'll lay money on it. Dan,

(51:59):
this sounds like the most boring Vegas trip ever. You're
gonna out bore me in Vegas, Like, I don't. I
won't sit there and gamble, but I will go and
spend an entire if I had nothing to do yesterday,
just so you know. So yesterday, so I flew in
Saturday night to Kn't City, and I don't know if
I'm a loser or if I'm a winner. I got
up yesterday morning and I did hot yoga. Then I

(52:20):
had like I had coffee where I got to just
sit there and drink my coffee and read like every
story I could read on every game college football from
the night before NFL football, and then I honestly, I
went to my hotel room. I popped up my laptop
so I can watch multiple games, and I was under
the coverage for like four hours, not sleeping, watching football.

(52:40):
It was amazing. Like, no, kids, I am. I'm one
of those guys if he goes on a work trip
like this, can't wait to just find a nice place
to eat and then just go to Vegas. Has some
good place to eat, my friends. Yeah, that's what That's
what I hope to do. Grab grab some good eats

(53:01):
even before I get to the hotel, and then go
to the hotel, prep for Tuesday, relax, and and I'm good.
All right, I'm gonna ask three times Super Bowl champion
NFL on Fox analyst Mark Schlayra about the Bears. Uh,
We're watching the Saints do it with offense and in
a pretty good defense. What about the Bears doing with
defense and then playing with the lead from from offense?

(53:22):
What's actually a better? Um? Uh, what's the call for success?
Recipe for success? I'll ask stink He joins this upcoming
next but first sports fans football season in full effect.
Rivalry Weekend is here in college football in the NFL.
Now we're getting the really important games. It's time for
you to get in on the action with my boogie
dot Net. It's the industry leading sports action website that

(53:45):
offers real Vegas odds on football, baseball, and all your
favorite sporting events. You can take a side, the total
or even bet the overrunner on how many Fantasy points
a player will score right like today, Like you got
Pat Mahomes, you can go bet how many Fantasy points
Pat Mahomes is gonna score tonight in Monday Night Football.
It doesn't just stop there. My boogie dot net lets

(54:07):
you play online win big. Use the promo code got lab.
When you register your your account, you get sign up bonus.
Did the game already kick off? Don't sweat it. My
boogie dot net has live in game action on every
major league event, even e sports. There's no better time
to join my boogie dot Net than right now. My
Bookie dot Net opening accounts start winning. Used promo code gottlieb.

(54:27):
When your register that's gottlieb. You get a sign up bonus.
No purchase necessary terms. You can just supply for the
entertainment is only void. We're priveted. Be sure to catch
live editions of the Doug Dot Leap Show week days
in noon eastern three pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the I Heart Radio app. Car shopping can be
confusing with terms like dealer price, list price, and invoice price.

(54:50):
True Car shows what other people paid for the car
you want. You can recognize a good price when you're
ready to buy a new or use car. Visit True
Car and enjoy more confident car buying experience. Doug Gottlieb
Show Fox Sports Radio. He's a three time Super Bowl champion.
He's a radio legend nationally and locally. He's also an
analyst for the NFL on Fox. He's three time Super

(55:12):
Bowl champion. Mark schlay Rick he joins us on Fox
Sports Radio. Stink, let's start with the Broncos. Huh. I mean,
I'd love to talk about the Broncos in there win,
but I cannot believe what I saw from Philip Rivers, Like,
I mean, how do you, how are you that experienced
having the season of your life since they did have

(55:34):
the fourteen and two season and you make those type
of decisions down the stretch. Yeah, You're guests as good
as mine, Dougie. I mean that that is one that
you look at and you're like, dude, what do you
I mean, take a stock and eat upon Yeah, I
mean you're gonna plunt it anyway and put him down.
The forty seconds obviously pivotal, but like how you don't

(55:56):
go through those. It's almost like literally, you know, I
coached my son a little league forever and we always
sold our tiers when they were a little like, okay,
if the balls hit to you have to think about
this every place. If the balls hit to you, what
are you gonna do with it? You know, situational baseball,
at situational football, you're like, you throw that only if
it's wide open and it's just you know, if not

(56:18):
just self stack, you know, take the sack. I mean,
it's something you discuss before you before you call it.
I mean, it's out of the time out. It's something
that you discuss. How do you have that kind of
lapse of reason? Especially with Philip Rivers's that's an inexcusable
mistake for him, and you know, frankly, I mean, there
are so many things that cost them that game, but

(56:39):
late obviously you know that that's um, that's the one
that everybody's gonna be talking about and and a game
that you know, they they made some mistakes, they probably
deserve to lose. Doug otlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Let's let's get to the Bears. Obviously, their defense is awesome,
and you know every coach talks about starting fast, and

(56:59):
really it's kind of their secret, right start fast and
unleash their pass rush on your on you, and hope
they don't have to depend on Mitch Robinsky to throw
the football. Uh deep? Do you know push the ball
down the field late? Is this a recipe that wins
in the postseason because it's winning right now. Well. I
always think anytime you can control the line of scrimmage,
you can run the football, especially if it gets into

(57:19):
nasty weather. You get a couple of home games, Like
do I think you're gonna go to New Orleans with
that philosophical approach and beat New Orleans? No, I don't.
But if you get a home game, I think you're
gonna be able to advance in a home game. Um.
You know they always talk about what what travels on
the road in the playoffs, and that's defending the run
and run on the football, controlling the line of scrimmage.

(57:40):
You do that more often than not, and you're gonna
come away with victorious even if your quarterback has a
hundred and sixty five yards throwing um. You know, Mitch
Robinsky is unique in that he scrambles around. I think
he leads the league from quarterback position in rushing. UM
makes good throws on the move. You have that touchdown.
I think the Anthony Miller on the move to scramble
when he got outside the pocket. Mattneggie does a great

(58:03):
job of giving him those opportunities, getting him in that
kind of rhythm where he is both a run threat
and a past threat. But do I think you're gonna
beat an upper echelon team, you know, on the road
like New Orleans. No, I don't. But I think it
gives you, as a football team, with the quarterback that
you're currently grooming and teaching, the best chance to win. Yeah,

(58:23):
I do so. I don't have a problem with the
way they're playing football right now. Listen, man, I tell
you what chemistry is funny, isn't it. It's a funny thing.
You know. You think it's like the whole thing with
the Eagles. You think, just because you had it last year,
you change a couple of pivotal pieces and it's gonna
you know, it's gonna you know, all of a sudden

(58:44):
re emerge. Defensively, they're just not playing like they did
last year in their secondary. Their secondary has given up
big plays they have you know, their their secondary has
not played the kind of man coverage that they played
last year. So guys escape um. So that has happened
to them obviously. You know, you look at their pass

(59:04):
rush and their ability to run rush the pastor has
always been really good. But I think from a coverage standpoint,
both the second level of the linebacking level and m
and the secondary has given up big plays that that
that second level, that linebacking level. You remember back to
that Thursday night game on Fox where they played the
Rams and they matched up Anthony Barrow like three different

(59:27):
times whether running back or receiver and absolutely torched them.
They have found themselves in those positions and they found
themselves losing more often than not when they get into
those positions. Mark Layry joining us on the Doug Gotlip
Show on Fox Sports Radio, how the Saints managed to
make Drew Brees looked even better at thirty nine listen.

(59:47):
One like I was out there this summer. Um. I
went out to Saints camp and Sean Payton and I,
you know, main dropping happened to be friends. And I
was out there for one of my son's minor league
baseball games. So I spent the day at training camp.
UM was invited to you know, to help out, to
be an offensive line, meeting rooms, to do some coaching,

(01:00:08):
you know, to be out there practice, to watch the
film with those guys. And one, they are so dynamic
and they are so multiple, you know, like you you
talk about all the different guys that are able to
get involved from camera to Ingram to to you know, Thomas,
to all their wide receivers um, and like everybody's getting

(01:00:30):
their opportunities tight ends. Drew Brees does such a great
job of spreading around. But they are by far when
you watch them on film on tape, they are the
best offensive line in football, UM doing multiple things well,
not only running the ball but also in past protection.
And you know, you look at the backup quarterback Hill
who I saw him the other day. I broke down

(01:00:52):
one of their games. He lined up at kick returner,
he lined up at fullback, He lined up at running back.
He lined up at tight end both on the line
of scare Mitch and in the squat, and he lined
up at wide receiver outside and was at quarterback and
was effective. He is, let me tell you, he is
what Tim Tebow wanted to be or what people wanted
Tim Tebow to be, but Tim Tebow didn't want to

(01:01:13):
be that. And he's a much better athlete. I mean
he is. He is one of the real unsung heroes
of this Saints team. And then the other hero is
Drew Brees. Because Drew Brees when they asked him to
motion out and play wide receiver, he doesn't throw a
hissy fit like like Flacco does. He's like, great, this
is gonna help our team win. I'm in because I'm
at a point at thirty nine where i just want

(01:01:34):
to win a championship. They are so balanced and they
have so many different people involved. It is absolutely amazing.
A matter of fact, Dez Bryant goes down with it,
you know, with the injury and everybody's sad, and they
pull a kid up off the practice squad, number eight team.
I've never even seen him before, and he's catches more
from forty three yards down to see him. I'm just like,
just bring another guy and we're good. Yeah. No, it's

(01:01:55):
really really amazing how they can they can just find
a mismatch and then drew so so deadly accurate. Um, okay,
help help me out with Lamar Jackson. First drive doesn't
draw a past that was effective in the short term,
but it feels like they're hiding the fact that he can't,
you know, do the real quarterback thing. Can you learn

(01:02:17):
that on the fly or is this just hey, let's
just kind of keep it together and see how do
the tebow thing and see if we can win by
shortening the game and making our quarterback run. Yeah. Well,
I mean I think so. I think one like, you're
gonna do what's best for for him, and you're gonna

(01:02:37):
give him the most opportunities to to be as comfortable
as possible. But in the long run, does that work?
Absolutely not. I mean, you're not gonna you're not gonna
go deep. Um you know you're not gonna you're not
gonna be a playoff team doing that. So, um, you
know it's not a it's not a sustainable form, Doug.
I mean, that's it's just it just isn't how many

(01:02:57):
how many of you are? How many? Uh? What gave
many yards? He have a hundred over a hundred yards rushing?
Is that right? Come on too seriously, Like, let let
me tell you. I picked up the ball first. I
gave up a sack my rookie year. I played center
my whole rookie year. So are not my whole rookiear
but the training camp in my rookie year. So I

(01:03:19):
get done playing center, and the Redskins thrown me in
at guard and say, hey, you know, go block al
Noga like I hadn't. I didn't take one snap the
guard the whole preseason. Al't know good bloom behind me
like I was standing still. I didn't even touch him.
And Bill Kenny was our backup quarterback. Bill Kenny got
hit right in the I mean right in the teach right.
Ball popped up in me here. I caught it and
I was covering tickoffs at the time, so like I

(01:03:40):
could run. I was like two four seven guys, you know,
I mean I could flat run. I picked up that ball,
snapped it right out there. I thought I was gonna score,
do you. I thought I was going for touchdown. I
was gonna be a hero. I took three steps and
Mike Merriwether, I swear to guy, he came off the
sideline and hit me in the lips. And I mean,
I've been lacked out, snot shot out of both nostrils.

(01:04:02):
The only reason I didn't fumble because I let ball.
The ball go about three dbs hit me in the
chest at the same time, and I was laying on
the bottom of that pile, and I was just kind
of like, literally note to self. When I came to
I was kind of like, don't ever pick up the
ball again. Like I'm telling you what this kid is.
This kid is phenomenal. I mean, he's a phenomenal athlete.
But if you like him from the ball twenty seven times,

(01:04:24):
eventually he'll catch one of the teeth and then he'll
be done. So I mean, they're gonna have to change
that style. Even Cam Newton, you know, Design runs about
eleven a game. Tops, you know, Top with Design runs
probably eight with like three or four scrambles, like twelve carries.
You cannot let your quarterback run twenty seven times in

(01:04:44):
today's NFL because somebody, you know, somebody is going to
shortenight kid's neck. Okay, this is an honest question. I
think we all want to say, we're go go for
a guy, go for two guys. The Panthers lose the
game by going for two in Detroit, and we've seen
the Titans lost a game going for two when they
didn't have to. In London. Um, the Colts went forward

(01:05:08):
on fourth down at their own forty three yard line,
which I thought it really helped change the Texans entire season,
their entire trajectory. And oh yeah, by the way you
look at it now, how they tied that game, which
is what would have happened they just punted, but would
be in a completely different place in terms of the
standings in that division. How do we get to this
place where coaches are cool, just like, yeah, you know,

(01:05:29):
we'll fight all week long to try and win a game.
And even when My thing is if you're the better team,
you want the game to go longer. That's I'm Carolina.
I want the game to go longer. I'm gonna get
the ball back. I'm the better team than Detroit. What
are we doing with this go for two to try
and win the game and get off the field. Then well, wait, right,
I mean, we are such a prisoner like our league,

(01:05:50):
the prisoners in the moment such I mean, it's it's
incredible how we get to the point where it's like, well,
the Eagles want a Super Bowl and you know it's
about wrong. So he's done in the past. But like, like,
I don't know what book you're looking at, Like, like,
but you kicked that extra point and you played for
overtime one of the time. It's like when Mike McCarthy

(01:06:13):
came out after the loss to Seattle on Thursday night
and says, hey, you know, I was going by the
numbers and that's why we punted, and uh and let
Seattle have the ball. Who had you know, a hundred
and sixty yards rushing or whatever, and we're physically dominating
a lot of scrimmage. You guys, we're going by the numbers.
And I'm thinking to myself, the only number you need
to be thinking about is number twelve, And how are

(01:06:33):
you gonna give that guy opportunities for work down to two?
Number twelve should go for it, right, I would, That's
the number I would be banking on. But um, the
whole thing is the whole thing. It seems to be
flipped on its head. Um. Yeah, in regards to Carolina,
you kicked that extra point. You make it. You make
it a tag game, and you're right. We're the better team.

(01:06:55):
We're gonna beat Detroit in their place. Awesome stuff, stink
some awesome stuff. Hey, man, I really appreciate you join us.
Look forward to talking the very near future. All right,
take everybody, The one and only Mark Shlaith joining us
on the Doug Gottlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Who a lot to take into online car shopping and

(01:07:17):
be confusing? Not any more? True price from True Car.
Now you can know the exact price you'll pay for
your next vehicle. So visit True Car you enjoy more
confident car buying experience. Let's bring in our man, John Ramos.
What do you got, Ramos? I don't know, John, what
do you guys? Oh? I'm sorry, Dan Buyer. No, No,
let's see what John's got. How did the soccer matcher
the softball game go this weeks? That's all right, I screwed,

(01:07:39):
It's all good. Actually, John's team finished in unbeaten season. Yeah,
they tied a few matches. This is in soccer, right John, Yeah,
that is correct. So always puns. That's the thing he
never goes. So congratulations to the U eight soccer team
that John coaches. Hey, we are under the four minute

(01:08:02):
mark in Mawi. Some college hoops Doug number eight all
burden getting all they can handle from Xavier seventy four
to seventy again, three seventeen left to go in that game.
Top rank two. Can San Diego State go at? It's
in about thirty minutes or so. Whenever this game ends
up coming to a conclusion. Duke remains the top ranked
team in this week's a P Top twenty five College

(01:08:22):
Hoops pull. Some news from the NBA Pacers, guard Victor
Oladipo won't play a night against the Jazz because of
a knee injury. Well Inn ESPN report says the Wizards
are making every player on their roster available for trade,
including John Wall and Bradley Beale. The Tampa Bay Lightning
take on the Nashville Predators at eight o'clock Eastern Time,
and tonight's Discover Card key matchups. Speaking of matchups, become
a new Card member and Discover Card will match all

(01:08:43):
the cash back you've earned dollar for dollar at the
end of your first year. Learn more at discover dot com.
Slash match limitations apply, and a bunch of news from
the NFL. Of course, Tonight, Chiefs and Rams Week eleven
wraps up eight fifteen Eastern time in l A. The
NFL did say today that they will play a game
in Mexico City next season. The Bucketeers are gonna start
Jamis Winston at quarterback Week twelve against the forty nine.

(01:09:04):
He replaces Ryan Fitzpatrick, the guy who he replaced in
the yesterday's game against the Giants. Packers tyn of Jimmy
Graham plans to play through his broken thumb. Well, the
Redskins end quarterback Mark Sanchez to back up Colton McCoy.
Of course, McCoy now the starter that Alex Smith has
done for the year, as the Redskins placed him on
injured reserve. Doug Okay stuff, John Ramas, it's really really,

(01:09:29):
really really good. Here's the Ron Rivera on why he
decided to go for two yesterday. Well, I think you
go for two on the road to win the game
at the end of the day was to say the
coin toss is gonna go in. Our favorite was to tay,
we're gonna stop him. So why not go for two? Well,
he missed cup kicks. I mean that's you know, that's
all part of it. When when I was going for

(01:09:49):
the wind, that's just the bottom line. I was going
for the wind. That's just the bottom line. M hm hm.
I think Ron Rivera, you guys tell me if if
you if you think I'm full of it. And I
know Graham Gonna missed the field goal and missed an
extra point. I understand that, um, you are playing indoors,

(01:10:11):
but I can't tell whether the kicking yips are were,
so we're just paying attention to him more. But I
saw a Cowboys kicker miss an extra point, Chargers kicker
miss an extra point, Graham Gonna miss an extra point,
Like they're all they're all missing what should be easy kicks.
Let's play this back. You tell me. I feel like
it's almost like Ron Rivera believes that the old overtime

(01:10:34):
system is in play. Ahead, take a listen, Well, I
think you go for two on the road to win
the game at the end of the day was to
say the coin toss is gonna go on. Our favorite
was to tell you we're gonna stop him, so why
not go for two? Well, you missed, Cup Cooks. I mean,
that's you know, that's all part of it. When when
I was going for the wind, that's just the bottom line.

(01:10:55):
That's just the bottom line. I was going for the wind.
You know you can and still win the game. So
here's the here's if if he did, in fact, and
I'll give him the benefit of the the doubt, if he
did in fact realize that the new overtime rules, which
the overtime rules in the NFL, are beyond stupid. Right,
here's the thing. You can't win on a field goal

(01:11:19):
except when you can, right, the only people that can't.
The only time you can't win on a field goal
is if you get the first position of possession of overtime,
any other possession you can win on a field goal.
That makes sense. It makes no sense at all. So
I'm I'm somebody who believes that the overtime rules should

(01:11:40):
just be put put a clock up, and let's just
play football. But it felt like Ron Rivera was like, well,
you know, we can't stop him. What you can't stop
him from scoring a touchdown or can't stop them like
the old rules and keeping out of the end zone.
The Lions had only scored two touchdowns the entire day.
It's not like they're mopping the field up right. Matt
Afride was twenty three thirty seven carry on Johnson had

(01:12:04):
eighty seven yards rushing. If your feelings were you, you
couldn't You couldn't stop them one. You got a shot
of winning the coin toss too. Even if you don't
win the coin toss, you can hold them to at
at at minimum age at maximum you go them to

(01:12:25):
a field goal. The The Detroit Lions had eleven first
downs the entire day, eleven and only and only two
of them were via the past eleven first downs the
entire day, so they had eleven drives. That's an average
of one first down per drive. That's not great. They

(01:12:48):
only average five point seven yards per pass, far less
than the Carolina Panthers. The Panthers were better in almost
every statistical category, better in the red zone. They're better
on third down, five of eleven on third down as
opposed to four or twelve of the Detroit Lions. Uh,

(01:13:08):
they had had one pick thrown by Camp. That's really
the only difference in the game. And yes, the Lions
had more rush yards ninety four to fifty six, But
part of that is camp took three sacks that lost
them twenty six yards. Otherwise it's essentially a wash. The
Carolina Panthers. Would anybody argue that the better team than
the Detroit Lions. Nobody would argue. So why would you

(01:13:32):
try and shorten it and cheapen it and go with
one play? Doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense.
It's just become the cool thing to do, all right,
Become the cool thing to do. Like when Mark Helpfrist
did it and he was the coach at Oregon. He

(01:13:52):
did it because it was the smart, the smart thing
to do, and he kept doing it. Now, one of
the things that some of these guys don't understand is
they leave you know, like you know what compound interest is.
You guys watch hard knocks compound interest. They think there's
compound risk and lessened risk based upon how many times
you go for it. Like the idea is, well, if

(01:14:14):
you convert, you know, more than fifty one percent of
the time, well as opposed to now you're only converting
one point extra points like pent of the time you've
you converted a rate of over then that's a smarter
play than going For one, the problem with football coaches

(01:14:38):
is I believe many of them think, well, if I
didn't get it this time, that means I have a
greater chance of getting it next time. Now you don't,
you got a chance again in the first time. You
got a fifty percent chance again in the second time.
And if you didn't get the first time, that doesn't
mean a chance the second time. It's the exact same probability.
But this is where it's become the cool thing to do.

(01:15:01):
It's basically the reason I didn't get a tattoo when
I was in college, because I would have been one
of the first guys, white guys really to get a tattoo.
But then it just became like, what, did I really
have a reason? Not really, not really, like you know,
my grandma passed away, Like I really want to get
that as a tattoo. Like now people now they just

(01:15:24):
get tattoos to get tattoos. Well, you know, it really
helps I have something to say, we have a mouth,
and you have a pen, write it down, somebody else
actually doing the art for what you have to say.
But it's become like the thing to do, like literally
every young person's every anybody who's thirty or younger seems
to either have ink or about to get ink. I mean,

(01:15:48):
I'm I guess I'm guilty in this sense. I have
Apple products because we're on the iCloud. I have no
idea how to use an Apple computer as opposed to Windows,
which is what I grew up using. But it school
thing to do to over your laptop and have that
illuminated Apple. Correct. Of course, Dan buyer what he got.
I think that Ron Rivera wanted to be Riverboat Ron,

(01:16:09):
and that was his only thinking, and that he just
he he wanted to get for everything that you said.
I think he just wanted to live up to that persona.
They had out gained the Lions carry and Johnson actually
left the game with a knee injury, so he wasn't
coming back. He wasn't gonna be available in overtime if
the game went that way. It just doesn't make any sense.

(01:16:30):
Maryland went for two against Ohio State on Saturday and
made no said zero sense. Consider could not stop up correct, correct,
couldn't stop them? What we were like? Go for two nations?
Why because Johnny's doing it? I want to have a
YouTube show why because somebody else made money on a
YouTube show. Like, look, if it makes sense for you

(01:16:50):
to have a YouTube show, have a YouTube show makes
sense if you have a podcast. Everybody's got a podcast.
I have two podcasts now mine are actually pretty good
at the allbapod casts All Basketball. Then you have the
Doug at Leap Show podcast. But everybody's got a podcast.
But this everybody goes for two things. I mean, it's
it's no different than the NBA, where everybody's gotta shoot threes. Hey,

(01:17:11):
no more mid rating shots. But I don't. The Maryland
thing is a great point, Dan, that is a great point.
If you watch that game. No, Marylyn was Marylyn was
having trouble scoring in so Ohio State, but like, look,
Ohio State literally could not stop. You had zero chip.
They were their defense was gassed. And here's the kicker.

(01:17:33):
You get the ball in overtime. Hey, you get the
ball in overtime and you score almost immediately. Now, look, Maryland,
Matt Canada made a bunch of errors. They get the
ball deep. You know that they're they're up a touchdown
and they get the ball deep on the first play
to like the one or two yard line. They could
have taken a knee three plays in a row. Well,

(01:17:53):
how it stayed out of time outs and then kicked
the field goal and been up ten and that's been
the end of it. But they didn't. But then in overtime,
Ohio States scores, Maryland scores almost right away, and then
they go for two. Why you're gonna get the ball
back immediately? And oh yeah, by the way, in triple overtime,

(01:18:15):
which is the stupidest rule ever, you have to go
for two. So if you get down with your set
you get your second overtime. And now you're like, are
you know you're scoring your second overtime? You're like, man
our defense. But you wouldn't do it the next over
time because then Ohio State is on is on office,
they have to score. You got the perfect set up,

(01:18:36):
but we become gopher to nation and people are like, wow,
you know what they went for it. Actually, if you
watch that play, Dan Buyer, people like, well, the guy
was wide open. He was wide open because there's a
ligneman down field. There's a lineman three yards four yards
deep in the end zone, which should have been a penalty.
That's why one of the defensive backs was like covering
two people He's like, wait, is that guy tackle eligible anyway?

(01:19:01):
All right? Coming up next, Colin Coward thinks this is
Urban Meyer's final season in Ohio State. Give you my
thoughts next. Be sure to catch live editions of the
Doug Dot Leaps Show weekdays at noon Eastern three pm Pacific,
brought to you by Progressive Insurance. We'll compare rates for
you so you get a great deal, even if it's
not with us saving you time and money. Now, that's Progressive.

(01:19:22):
Call or click today Doug Otlip Show, Fox Sports Radio
every day. This time, we'd like to play for you
a portion of a show earlier today on FS one
or Fox Sports Radio. We call it Fox Say. If
you were listening earlier, you heard Dan Buyer and I

(01:19:43):
discussed the end of the Ohio State Maryland game. Here's
Colin Cowherd on the state of Urban Myers, head coach
at Ohio State. Two separate sources told me this weekend
Urban Meyer is done after this year. He's going to
retire from football. There's a fissure between the administration there

(01:20:04):
uh and Urban Meyer. He doesn't owe his field. They've
had his back. He's not gonna admit this. He's gonna
say this is ridiculous. I don't know what you're talking about.
But you saw him on the sideline this weekend. Some
people he does not look good. Some people are saying
he's acting. I don't think he is. This is a
guy that takes every lost personal I've been told by

(01:20:25):
two people that I trust way up the food chain.
Urban Meyer after this year, could be after Michigan, after
the Big Ten championship, after maybe they get in you know,
they play a huge bolt. Whenever it is, this is
it um. Look, I'll credit Colin because he's claiming he
has two sources. This is not a privately held secret.

(01:20:46):
There's been other discussions about it. Urban Meyer actually admitted,
I think a week and a half ago, he has
assist on his brain. He looked incredibly, incredibly uncomfortable um
over the weekend when he's coaching the team. I don't
need to know if you needs some gold on powder
or what. But there seemed to be an itch that
he couldn't stop scratching, and it was a little uncomfortable
how often they went to urban Meyer, but also how

(01:21:08):
much he was bent over, as if he was suffering
from a searing headache. He does not look well. He
does have health issues, So yeah, I mean it, it
would be amazing, which leads me to the they play
Michigan this weekend, and Michigan didn't play great. They didn't

(01:21:28):
play as poorly um as Ohio State did defensively, but
they're built on defense, and they did manage to steal it,
wrangle the lead from Indiana and lead in the second
half and win the game. But they they it was
dangerously close with an eye U team that it didn't
need to be a dangerously close with This feels like

(01:21:50):
a win one for the Gipper moment, it just does.
It's amazing, you know, if it feels like a win
one for the Gipper. Ohio State hadn't been playing that well.
The defense hadn't stopped anybody in weeks. Their offense as
good as it looked earlier in the season, it's okay. Now,
Look it got explosive there against Maryland, like and that's

(01:22:13):
how they came back and and and the ultimately won
that game. But it felt like to start the year,
it felt like Ohio State was the best team in
the Big Ten and maybe if Michigan found an offense
they could be. Now it feels like Michigan is the
best team and Ohio State can't stop anybody, and they
have some turmo and they're not getting as much out
of the players as they could. But irban Meyer not

(01:22:34):
looking great. That feels like a win one for the gippery.
It feels like I win one for the giver moment.
Online car shopping can't be confusing, not even more true
price and true car. Now you can know the exact
price you'll pay for your next UH car. So is
it true car? And enjoy more confident car buying experience.

(01:22:55):
Saints seemed to be the best team in the NFL.
Now we've all said, well, you know, to they gotta
play outdoors, but they have played outdoors some and they
might not have to play outdoors on the way to
a Super Bowl. Thought about that, Are they in fact
the best team in the NFL? And what are the
weaknesses to the Chiefs tonight? What are the weaknesses to
the Rams tonight? A Titanic showdown in Los Angeles? A

(01:23:20):
Monday night football game we're actually going to discuss. And
are the Giants gonna kid themselves into keeping Eli Manning
for another year? All that with former NFL GM Michael Lombardi.
He joins the show upcoming next on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports

(01:23:40):
Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app.
Search f s R to listen live. What Up Doug
Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Hope you had a great
weekend watching Auburn takedown Xavier. Little Jared Harper, tremendous point guard.
Who is he a junior? Now? Yeah, he's backcourt mates

(01:24:04):
with Colin Sexton in high school. That's pretty good little
little backcourt, right, Colin Sexton Alabama last year first round
pick of the Cleveland Cavaliers, and now Jared Harper is
a junior at Auburn. That's a pretty good high high
school team. Um, we got some college football to talk about.
The Irban Meyers stuff. Man, he didn't he did not
look good. It's just he did not look good. Alabama

(01:24:25):
struggling with the triple option. I love when and this
is what happens you get Citadel runs the triple option.
They marched up in down the field against Alabama in
the first half. Ultimately Alabam wins a game. They really
marched up and down the field most of the game.
And you get the why doesn't anybody run the triple
option anymore? Somebody should really commit to doing I was like, uh,

(01:24:46):
Georgia Tech doesn't. Well, here's why your quarterback gets hurt.
You can turn the ball over a lot like triple
option teams turn it over a lot. And it's really
hard to recruit wide receivers. Oh and all the rules
that have been put in place to help offensive football
or to help you when you throw the football. Outside

(01:25:08):
of that, no one does it, and you should totally
do it, but you do it when you want to
shorten the game when you have inferior talent. We don't
have the studs at wide receivers, you know. And you
can't get legit quarterback play. You can convert a guy,
which you better have a bunch of dudes, a bunch
of dudes um. And then of course you got the
National Football League where the Saints flex their muscles. Last

(01:25:30):
year's champ felt like a chump and this year's Saints
look like potential champs. You got the Vikings once again
coming up short. You got tonight's Monday night football game,
you got a lot to get the Cowboys surviving the
Atlanta Falcons. Let's bring in Michael Lombardi. He joins us
every week and teaches us about football. Uh so much,
so much to learn from you this week. Michael. By

(01:25:51):
the way, the book is out, Gridiron Genius, a master
class and winning championships and building dynasties in the NFL.
Plus he has GM Street, his uh widely well regarded
podcast which comes out every week. Let's start with the Saints.
We're supposed to be watching the best two teams in football,
but the Saints have beaten one of them, and they
seem to be getting better, not getting worse. Are the

(01:26:15):
Saints in fact the best team in football? Well, I mean,
right now after Week eleven, you'd have to say, without
a doubt they are. I mean, they've They've kind a
tough schedule. They played Baltimore on the road, tough place
to play against a good defense. Win that game obviously,
justin Tucker MS is an extra point going to Minnesota,
Drew Breese throws for a hundred twenty yards, yet they
still win the game. And then last night they just

(01:26:35):
pumbled the defending Super Bowl champions. It wasn't a game.
I mean, it was seventeen seven, a third and two,
and for whatever reason, the Eagles decided to run a
play that I'm not sure they would like to run again,
and the next thing you know, that school was one
of seven. Game was over. M Um, All right, let's
let's get to the Eagles. Is this fixable? Because it's

(01:26:55):
still a division which they could find a way to win.
Is a fixable? You know, last I said all year
that the Eagles were winning because they played from in front.
Now everybody says, you know, Lombardi, that's really a revolutionary statement.
Playing from the front is important. No, it's really important.
I mean, the teams that have the first time half,
half time lead point differential always go to the Super Bowl.

(01:27:16):
Last year it was Philadelphia and New England. Last year
the Eagles were the number one team and first quarter
points scored, and they were the first best team in
first quarter point differential. They always played from in front,
and this year they can't play from in front. Their
scripts not working, they can't convert third downs at the
pace they converted him last year, and they haven't played
the same and their defense has always been a defense

(01:27:37):
that needs turnovers. It's always given you yards. They gave
up six thirteen yards in the Super Bowl in twenty
six minutes. They won that game because they were afraible
to force turnovers. This year, they've only forced two turnovers
at home. That's not good. So I think it's gonna
be a challenging to turn it around unless they get
Kim Journegan back and he unites this defensive front. Their

(01:27:58):
secondary is so bad right now, I don't know if
they can cover anybody all right. Meanwhile, the Chicago Bears
have mastered the art of playing from in front. Obviously,
they have that tremendous defense, They got a good script
of first fifteen plays. Is that a team that you
believe can win in the playoffs. And we all have
our questions about Robinsky's decision making his second third reads

(01:28:18):
throwing the ball downfield, but they seemed to hide it
with his athleticism and playing from in front. Well, look,
I think that's what they did. I mean last night,
his feet were the really difference in the game. He
moved around the pocket. Before the game, he run forty
one times. He was the second leading rushier on the team.
So you know you've got to control him in the pocket,
and that's a hard thing to do for most teams.
Most teams don't practice defensive line rush. I think what

(01:28:39):
you saw the Patriots game, they didn't do a very
good job, but they took away pretty much his first read,
and I think that's what teams will keep doing. The
Mitchell last night, I mean they won in spite of
his ability to not really throw the ball for hundred
sixty nine yards, had two turnovers. The game was right
there for the Vikings. The Vikings offensively just did not
know or understand how to attack the Bears defense, and

(01:29:00):
think it cost them. They're gonna have to play much
better offensively, and they're going to move along because their
defense isn't as good as it was last year. Every
first and tent the Bears were in six. They were
able to control the line of scrimmage. But I think
the Bears when they play against these better teams that
can move to football, the Rams, the Saints, like New
England could, I think they're in trouble because they'll know

(01:29:20):
how to attack their defense and I'm not sure their
offense can keep taste. All right, let's go to the
other side. The Minnesota Vikings. Mike Simmo was asked about
why they continual airs holding on the football and he
can't really explain it. Um, it feels like their offense
should be better than it was last year, but it's
not better than it was last year. What you're taking

(01:29:40):
the Vikings and their struggles, you know, I think the
Vikings are one of those teams that want to do
everything and they're not doing anything very well. I think
what they really need to do is focus on getting
better and getting back to what they want to become.
But they don't have an identity right now. They just
try to run a bunch of plays, and they're trying
to run beaters as opposed to really so system otically
attacking a defense. And I think sometimes they need change coordinators,

(01:30:03):
and coordinators start to read that their names are in
the paper for head coaching jobs all of a sudden,
you know, are you trying to win the game? Are
you trying to promote yourself to become a head coach?
And I think that's the challenge that Minnesota faces. They've
got to get back to their what their roots are,
which is clearly they've got to run the ball more effectively.
They gotta run play action. That's what Cousins does well,
and they haven't been able to do that, and I

(01:30:25):
think they really need that. I think the Tony Sperrano, Yes, unfortunately,
I think that's hurt them. They haven't been as good
in the offensive line as they were last year. It
was never mentioned last night, but I do think it's
a concern. Michael Lombardi joining us in the Doug Outlip
Show on Fox Sports Radio. There's a lot of belief
in Washington and Cult McCoy right like there that they

(01:30:46):
believe in him. They believe he's um maybe not a
like a Pro Bowl level starter, but can be a starter.
They also believe in their system above all else. Are
they wrong to believe that Cult McCoy can see this
thing through and get them to the play us. Look,
I actually wrote today for The Athletic that they're better
off with Cope lacoy. I hated to see what happened.
Alex said there was a gruesome injury, and I don't

(01:31:07):
wish anyone to get hurt. But the one thing the
Redskins had proven over ten games is they weren't going
to change their offense for Alex Smith. Alex Smith is
successful running the Utah College offense than Andy Reid. Basically
stole from Irvin Meyer and installed in Kansas City. I
called it West Coast College. That's what they ran, and
Alex Smith ran it to perfection. But in Washington they
expected him to run their stuff. He doesn't run their

(01:31:29):
stuff as well. Cope Lacoy, however, does And I think
they'll actually be a little bit better in the passing game.
Remember the last three games of the season, Alex Smith
has throne for exactly a hundred seventy nine yards in
each of those last three games he's played in, not
counting yesterday. So they're gonna get more from their passing game.
They cannot rely on Adrian Peterson. They're gonna have to
win the old fashioned way, which is good defense. Make

(01:31:51):
a few plays in the past game, keep the games
in the load in the high teams, load twenties, and
try to win it that way. Get me for tonight,
you have um the Chiefs. I mean, look, it's easy
to say, Hey, the Chiefs have no defense and they
have a spectacular offense. Is it as simple as that?
Or their defense a little bit better? Is their defense
improving at all? Well? I think their defense is situational.

(01:32:14):
I think they're really good on third down. I think
they could take the ball away and I think they've
got moments where they can rush the passer. So I
think there are situational defense. I think this whole notion
that great defenses exist. I mean even the Bears. I
mean the Patriots moved the ball down the field on
the Bears defense when they played them. If you know
how to attack a defense, you're gonna score points based
on the rules. And so I think what Kansas City
has to do is play from in front and utilize

(01:32:35):
their skill to rush their pastor justin Houston d Ford
those guys, and then they play really good on third down.
And that's how they've gotten off the field. I think
that's their only chance. And the running games certainly helps
because they played less defense. When you're not good on defense,
does it's always best to play less defense. Another point
the Eagles mastered last year. They averaged twenty six and
a half minutes of defense last year. That's why they

(01:32:56):
were so good. These teams are copying that. Let's go
to the other side, the Rams. They've had some injuries
of late um, but you know, Cooper cup Is. It's
it's not like you're losing Todd Gurley, what are your feeling.
But on the other hand, that their defense last year
seemed to be picked apart more as the year went on,
granted their personnels better. This year, You've got Marcus Peters,

(01:33:18):
who you feel like he's gonna try and make a
play tonight because that's one what he does, and too
going against the Chiefs who traded him way they knowing
that they're probably gonna go after him because other teams
have gone after the fact that he wants to be
a ball hawk. Give me your sense of the Rams
defense today, Well, I think this. I think that they're
gonna go after Marcus Peters with double moves. I mean,

(01:33:39):
that's why they traded him. They know Marcus Peters wasn't
disciplined in their scheme. He gave up as many plays
as he as he stopped them, and I think they'll
go after him. I think the key for the Rams is,
and this is the key for Wayne Phillips's defense. You've
got to be able to stop the run. Wayne Phillips's call,
she shrinks enormously. When he can't stop the run, he
can't do the things he wants to do to stop

(01:34:00):
your passing game. When you're running the ball on him,
he can't get into his nickel, he can't get into
his situational defenses. And until they stopped that, teams are
gonna keep moving the ball. Last week, the Seattle Seahawks
only throw the ball forty yards, but man, they ran
it for over two hundreds. If that happens tonight, don't
lose badly. How have we gotten into this thing where
coaches are like, ah, screw it, let's just go for two,

(01:34:21):
like Ron rivera I and anybody falling back on the
riverboat Ron excuse Like, okay, maybe that's the guy he
had been when they went to a Super Bowl. But
they were better. They're better football team than the Detroit Lions.
The Lions of lost carry on the lines of lost
carry on Johnson, and both teams unless you give up
a touchdown, both teams get the ball. Like, why is

(01:34:42):
he why he's like cheapening how good his team is
to me by going for two? I know good, no
had missed an extra point mr field goal. I understand um,
but I felt like, you're cheapen it. You're selling your
team short by going for two, you're not the inferior team.
I mean, Good is perfect from outside of forty yards.
He hasn't missed it outside of fifty yard kick. He

(01:35:02):
hasn't missed it outside of forty had a bad he
had a bad couple of kicks, and I think you
know you'll like. I mean, look, I hate this whole
notion that we're gonna lay our blood and guts on
the field for fifty nine minutes and have the game
come down to just one play. I mean, that's not
really smart. And I think the longer that game went,
the Path has had a better chance. Now, if you
would have told me he onside kicked it after he
tied the score twenty to twenty, I might accept that.

(01:35:24):
But to me, they Lions still had two time out left.
There was a minute to go. Matt Proud is a
long range field goal kicker. Even if you get the
two point conversion, Doug, there's no guarantee you're gonna win
the game, So why not change the way you're playing.
I wrote about this today. If you're tied the score
in twenty to twenty, the Lions take a different approach.
The Lions take the approach of Okay, we want to

(01:35:46):
be careful, we want to be cautious with the ball,
but yet we want to try to get in the
field goal range. We don't want to get the we
don't want to go three and complete passes it out
and give the ball back to the Panthers. So maybe
we'll start running the ball a little bit, be very careful.
But if you're down twenty, when the twenty, if the
Lions were down and you made that two point, the
Lions say, hell with it. We're gonna throw caution to
the wind. We're gonna throw the ball, We're gonna do

(01:36:07):
whatever it takes to get the range. Different you see,
And so you've got to play those conditions. And I
think if you tie the score, the mind's point differently.
I think if you even if you get it, the
Lions play it differently and you end up losing. I
didn't like it at all. Um. Look, I think we
all knew that James Conner's ceiling was lower than than

(01:36:27):
Levian Bell. They escaped Pittsburgh and what was an incredible
finish to football game. Um, but but do the do
the Steelers do they come up short on talent? Once
he gets to real football once he gets to January
and we're trying to get to a super Bowl because
they've used Connor so much and he's he's no matter

(01:36:48):
no matter how good he is or how much better
he is, and we thought he'd be. He's not Levian Bell.
Well it's not. But I mean that game really was.
Ben didn't play very well. I think that they were
playing big Portals because I'm not sure I've seen and
I've seen every Blake Portals game. I've not seen a
Blake Portals game that he didn't throw an interception and
that he played that portly. I mean, that was a
game where Jacksonville basically was saying to everybody, We're not

(01:37:09):
gonna let our quarterbacks participate. We are just not gonna
let him beat us today. They were three two plays
and runs crossers. They never wanted him to beat it,
and he still he stole off the game for me,
takes two bad sacks when they were in field goal
range late in the fourth quarter. They had four three
an ounce in that game in the fourth quarter. They
never converted a third down in the fourth quarter because
they were too scared to let their quarterback play in

(01:37:31):
the game. And that's the reason why Pittsburgh won. Big
Ben didn't play well. James Connor dropped the pass in
a wheel route that could have won the game earlier
than when Roethlisberg got it in. But when you play
a team like Jacksonville, whose quarter who doesn't want their
quarterback to participate, you're gonna play. You're gonna be able
to stay in the game. And it proves the point
that no matter how good you are on the defense,
you can't play great for sixty minutes. And I think

(01:37:52):
that's why they won. Fantastic stuff, Michael Lombardi. The book
is Gridiron Genius of master Class and winning championships and
building dining seas in the NFL. It's on sale now.
The podcast is GM Street downloaded and buy the book. Michael,
Thanks for joining us. Pleasures mine. Everyone wants to be
this person, to to see one guy come back and

(01:38:14):
play football, But at some point it's over. We'll get
to that next. But first, in sports, a trade can
make or break your team. A good one can mean
a championship, a bad one can set your franchise back
for years. It's no different when it comes to selling
and trading your cars. You need to make good choices
with True Car, You've got a star on your roster.

(01:38:36):
Just go to True Car. Simply enter your license plate
number and watch your cars details pop up. Then answer
a few questions. Got a sports package or a moon roof?
By the way, does anybody actually know the difference in
a moon roof in the sunroof? Alright? Hit me up
on Twitter watches they bump up your car's value in
real time. Hi mileage, I got that in my car.
You already knew it would cost you, but now you

(01:38:56):
know how much it dings you in the wallet, so
you can strategize for your next move. Once you're finalized,
you get a true cash offer sent to you in minutes.
Then just bring in your car into local certified dealer
and they'll check your car for it with you. After
that cash you out trade in a new car. So
when you're ready for a new experience in a better

(01:39:17):
way to sell or trade in your car, check out
True Car today. True Cash offer not available in all areas.
Be sure to catch live editions of the Doug Dot
Leaps Show weekdays at noon eastern three pm Pacific. Car
shopping can be confusing with terms like dealer price list,
price and invoice price. True Car shows what other people
paid for the car you want. You can recognize a

(01:39:38):
good price when you're ready to buy a new or
use car. Visit True Car and enjoy more confident car
buying experience. Doug Allip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Some things
do come back, right like the Star Wars movies came back,
um Bell Bottoms came back. High wasted pants have come back.
But oftentimes styles are gone. They're they're just they're gone.
Zoobas pants, you know, parachute pants, suckers aren't coming back.

(01:40:01):
There are moments in time that are special and then
they're not. And and never is that more parent than
the NFL. In the Nashal Football League, they they've always
joked and said, it's the NFL really stands for not
for long. There's a reason you're like, you look at
at some of these quarterbacks and you say, man, they
have incredibly long careers, and yet the average, you know,

(01:40:24):
length of an NFL career is um is like three
and a half four years. How could that be? How
could you have guys, you know, playing nineteen years and
yet the average well, obviously there's plenty of other players
that don't last that long. They just don't. Quarterbacks are
much the same way. You know, while there are a

(01:40:49):
handful of guys that maintain their position one, it depends
upon the style that they play quarterback, you know, agile, athletic,
out of the pocket. Quarterbacks don't last nearly as long.
They just don't, and surgery changes them. R G three
is the perfect example of that. RG three head surgery

(01:41:10):
when he was in college, comes out setting the world
on fire, tears his knee, we think during the playoffs,
but he didn't look right even before the playoffs, and
he's never really the same. He was at the league
for a year and he's back in the league and
now he's just a back up. And he was used
to really by Lamar Jackson, who's like a newer version, uh,

(01:41:36):
slightly smaller, maybe faster, never been hurt, doesn't seem has
a stronger arm, but maybe not as good an arm
as r G three had when r G three came out.
But it just happens really fast. Colin Kaepernick hasn't played
in the NFL and almost two years right two thousands sixteen,

(01:42:00):
he was on that terrible forty Niners team. There's a
lot of things that are lost in the Kaepernick story.
There are the protests obviously were a big part of
why to some teams he was toxic, and then suing
the league for collusion makes even more talk toxic. It's

(01:42:21):
really hard to employ a guy, but not impossible. Eric
Reads playing for the Carolina Panthers, and he sued the
league for collusion, so it's it's not impossible. It makes
it less likely, but it's also should we point out
he's had arms surgery, he's had and he's had surgery
on his legs, and he wasn't that good. And when

(01:42:43):
it worked, it worked in the style where he wasn't
the true dropback pastor. And we've seen from Vince Young
to r G three to Tim Tebow, and you could say, well,
he's better than Tebow. I'll agree with you, but the
Tebow thing didn't last long, and art In and Kaepernick
lasted six years in the NFL. Six years. The most

(01:43:07):
he ever threw four was thirty yards. That's it. That
was the year after they went to the Super Bowl
and they finished eight and eight, and he lost his
starting job because he was not relatable to people in
the building. We don't mention the fact that his teammates
didn't like him, didn't get to know him, and you
gotta love We don't mention the fact that he didn't
want to be a backup quarterback when you mentioned the

(01:43:30):
fact that though he's still supposedly throwing, it's not like
he's gone out and offered himself up to throw for whomever, wherever. Whyever.
But instead of getting into the what percentage of him
not being in the league as protests, what percentage of
it is the fact that when he might have been
able to sign with the Baltimore Ravens, his girlfriend blew

(01:43:51):
it up with a with a with an Instagram photo.
Forget about all that. What you need to remember what's
really important is this, he ain't coming back. His champions
in the league or Greg Roman, that's the guy who
was as oc. He's in Baltimore, he's got Lamar and

(01:44:13):
he's got r G three. He had his chance there.
Who else are his champions in the league. They don't exist.
You don't get a job unless you know you don't
know a guy. It's not any different than the real world.
Jim Harba's a Michigan Michigan and you're like, well, he's

(01:44:38):
better than Mark Sanchez. Okay, maybe, but Sanchez. If you've
seen the video, go back to last year and watch
Mitch Drabinsky when he's getting ready to play, is starting
to snow, and there's Mark Sanchez giving him a little
little pointers and talking him up. That's what a backup
quarterback does. That's the new Colin kaepernickiss. There's there's like

(01:45:01):
a myriad of reasons he can't bring him in because
if you do and you don't play him in, Colte
McCoy stinks. People be calling for Kaepernick even if you
know Coulte McCoy is a better fit foot you want
to do. And you know what, if you don't think
Colpe McCoy is a better fit, then that's fine. You're
not a quote coach in the NFL. We just had
Michael Lombardi, former longtime front office guy. Like they think
McCoy Colpe mcoy will be better. You don't have a

(01:45:23):
great arm, great leader, very accurate knows the system. Having
comfort within the system is the number one thing that
allows guys to play up to their potential. Fit with
that system helps just as well. So you don't know
the system doesn't fit with the system, doesn't want to
be a backup, hasn't played in two years, isn't the

(01:45:44):
same player? Not truly a leader? Not comfortable being a backup.
And yes, then there's the politics of it. So when
Alex Smith goes down with an injury, don't start tweeting
about Kaepernick because you just make your you make you
become Seahawk guy that's still bent out of shape about Marshawn.

(01:46:07):
You become election guy that says, you know, popular vote, dude,
we don't. We don't decide based upon the popular vote.
We just don't like we We can kid ourselves and
sit there and go, well, we should like, we don't.
It's not it doesn't work in the argument. We decide

(01:46:29):
our president based upon the electoral college, like it or
don't like it. Them is the rules, all right, Them's
the rules. And and just like at some point you've
been at dinner and you may have even voted for
you voted for Hillary Cuttin, but you're at dinner and

(01:46:50):
I know people like this, they've lost their mind over
the over the whole thing, Like look, it's over, Like
we've already gone through mid terms. We're like two years
in here. You gotta figure out what you're gonna do
in two years, but you're so caught up in it
that you're like, Wow, everything goes works backwards. Well, it
doesn't work backwards. But Kaepernick guy wants us to look

(01:47:14):
back and say, look, remember when he almost want a
Super Bowl? Do you know what year that was? Are
you familiar with what year that was? That the Super
Bowl was in the beginning of two thousand thirteen. Excuse me,
in the beginning of two thousand fourteen. A right, so

(01:47:35):
we're talking five years ago, five years ago. He torched
the Packer defense five years ago. Do you know when
all has happened in five years? You've seen an absolute
evolution in the league. You've seen an absolute evolution in baseball,
You've seen an absolute evolution in basketball. All these sports

(01:47:57):
are being played differently. And yes, some guys last a
test of time. Some guys last seven years and can't
accept the roles of backup. It's not any different than
why Allen Iverson failed in Denver, why Carmelo Anthony failed

(01:48:19):
in Houston. Some guys are just not built to come
out the bench. You know, if you're gonna how how
you look as advocating for Colin Kaepernick, is how I
look at or how how I look at people who
advocate for Colin Kaepernick is how I look at people

(01:48:39):
who advocate for Tim Tebow. I think he was better
than Tebow, but I don't think his style was going
to be successful long term. And I talked to a
guy who played with Tim Tebow over the weekend, and
he's like, man, greatest dude ever, couldn't row football, greatest

(01:49:00):
dude ever. Kaepernick not seen as the greatest stude ever.
Not a bad dude, just very quiet, keeps himself not
really what how Quarterbacks usually took over rooms and he
was a little bit of mixed bag as a thrower,
limited offensively. But regardless of which, you've been out two years.

(01:49:23):
You don't fit with the system, You have no relationships
in the building. Don't just make the knee jerk, Hey,
let's do that. You know you be you become the
college fan that wants Bill Belichick to come coach your
team you want, you know, or or you become the

(01:49:44):
NFL fan that thinks Jim Harbaugh is coming back. He's
not coming back. He's not it's not coming back. He
makes nine million dollars or somewhere in that neighborhood to
coaches all Mater and he's in it for the long haul.
He's not going anywhere. He grew up watching Bo schem Beckler,
watching his dad, and that's the guy. He wants to be.

(01:50:06):
Stopped living in the past and start living in the present,
start living in reality. Ross the Ross Perros, you know,
like Ross Pero. Remember when he didn't get elected. They're like, well,
you know Ross Perow or I was like Steve Forbes,
whatever he's gonna do a flat tax, Like, dude, get

(01:50:26):
over those ideas. Like all ideas are good, and the
idea of changing is good. But at some point you
gotta get to deal with the reality that whoever got elected,
those are your guys. Gotta ride or die with him,
whoever your coaches, whoever your president is. You know whatever,
you know, whatever mistakes your company made. You want to
learn from the past, but you can't get stuck in it.

(01:50:49):
Let's bring in Dan Buyer. He's a forward thinking guy.
What do you got, Doug, I've got some college shops
to tell you about. Top rank Duke just getting underway
with San Diego State Blue Devils with an early eight
for lead. I mentioned they were top ranked two because
once again they are the number one ranked team in
college basketball and the Associated Press Top twenty five College Bowl. Villanova,
Syracuse and Marquette dropped out of the hoops rankings. Auburn

(01:51:13):
came in at number eight, and today they got an
overtime win in Maui against Xavier eighty eight to seventy nine.
Some news from the NBA Pelicans point guard Alfred Payton
gonna miss about six weeks of action because he needs
surgery to repair a fractured finger. Apparently the Wizard's locker
room is fractured, and ESPN report says that the team
is making every player on their roster available for trade,

(01:51:35):
including John Wall and Bradley Beal. The Athletics saying that
there were some verbal confrontations between players at practices recently,
Bull's guard Denzel Valentine at four to six months because
of ankle surgery, Pacers guard Victor Oladipo tonight against the
Jazz because of a knee injury. The Tampa Bay Lightning
take on the Nashville Predators at eight o'clock Eastern. Tom
and Tonight's discovered card key matchup. Speaking of matchups, become

(01:51:56):
a new card member discovered card will match all the
cash back you've burned Dolliford dollar at the end of
your first year. Learn more at discover dot com. Slash
match limitations supply. As you were just talking about, Mark
Sanchez has signed on with the Washington Redskins, well the Bucketeers,
making a change at quarterback back to Jamis Winston. He'll
start in week twelve. Good news for the Lions. They've
got the Bears on Thursday against there on Thanksgiving Day,

(01:52:18):
a home game. They're not gonna have carry on Johnson
for that game. It seems like the running back has
any sprain. But the good news at least with that Doug,
is that he is not going to need surgery. And
of course chiefs Rams eight fifteen Eastern Time tonight, Doug
Autam Show, Fox Sports Radio. UM. Trying to look for

(01:52:40):
that sound, guys of of Sanchez when he was on
the sideline trying to trying to pump up his his
then his then teammate Mitchell Drobiskuy. Online car shopping can
be confusing no more. With true price from true Car.
Now you know the exact price you'll pay for your
next car. So if is a true car. You'll find
them more confident car buying experience. You know, it's amazing. Um,

(01:53:02):
I do like being on the right side of history,
and I feel like I'm on the right side of
history with Andrew Luck. If you can't see how much
better he's playing when given a good offensive line. You know,
I remember the start of this season. You tell me
if I'm wrong, Um, music, didn't I get into with

(01:53:25):
a couple of different people like Nick right over over?
How high highly tow did he was? Um? Who was?
It was? Nick Wright and Jason Smith? I think individually?
Is that about right? I do believe that's correct. Yes, yes,
I don't know if they ever called him a bust
as much as they just said he's way over hyped.
He hasn't done anything. And I said, like, look, he

(01:53:46):
took over a franchise that was the worst in football.
You know, we we all forget that. Not only did
Peyton Manning have surgery, but they got old really really quickly,
and Drean g games gone offensive line, bad defense. He
had two great Russi ends and they both got old.

(01:54:07):
They won one game and he comes in and immediately
wins eleven eleven and eleven. They go to an AFC
CHAMPI who game the authors the greatest comeback. There's the
greatest comeback in the history of the NFL at the time.
And then he plays injured and last and last year

(01:54:30):
and a half, he'd been hurt badly, but that didn't
take away from how good he was or how good
he would be if he had a decent offens line.
Chuck Bogano, he played for a terrible head coach and
a terrible genner manager. Now he's got a good young
general manager and Chris Boward and a guy in Frank
Reich that seems to be a pretty good head coach
and a pretty good offensive line, and they're one of
the hottest teams in football. The quarterback carousel and Tampa

(01:54:53):
continues to go round and round. Give you the latest next.
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk line up
in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox
sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app.
Search f s R to listen live. Previously on the
Doug got Lead Show, check this. Let's welcome in a

(01:55:15):
guy who plays defensive back for the Chicago Bears. First
place Chicago Bears. Prince of Mucamara joins us here on
the Doug got Leave Show on Fox Sports Trade. What's
this defense like to be a part of? It's definitely
an exciting time. I mean, we finished top ten last
year in defense, and we knew, um, we wanted to
take that extra, that extra step this year. And then

(01:55:37):
I mean put them with the addition of Krel that
that extra step with a little bit more um promising
and um and yeah, Kalil came back last week. I
think he I think he had a two piece. I
think he had two sacks and me just picking up
from where he left off. And I keep telling everybody
he really just makes everybody that much that much better
just because he acquires so much attention on the on

(01:55:59):
the line, and he's getting triple team, double team, so
it opens up for everybody else. If you missed anything
from the Doug got Leave Show, you can always podcast
by going to Fox Sports Radio dot com. Now once again,
here's Doug Godlib. Online shopping can be confusing, well not anymore.
With True Price from truecr Now you can know the
exact price you'll pay for your next car. So visit

(01:56:22):
Truecar and enjoy more confident car buying experience. Doug Gottlip Show,
Fox Sports Tradeio. Every day at this time we get
you update on all the stories today. There's a lot
to get to. It broke a little early because I
knew I had so much. I want to get to
a Dan Buyer. Let's get to the press, the press, press,
they by discover Car. We treat you like you treat you,
Dan Buyer, treat me to the press, Doug Tonight's it

(01:56:44):
is chiefs Rams. But there's other NFL news to get to.
Specifically in Tampa Bay, the Buccaneers going back to Jamis
Winston as their starting quarterback in week twelve. You replaced
Ryan Fitzpatrick yesterday at a loss to the New York Giants. Okay, okay,
I hate to say I told you so, but um

(01:57:06):
I did in fact tell you so. The the what
was the line you gave me music? I can't remember
now then, Ryan fitz Truthers, right. The truth is like, no,
he's really the king of quarterbacks, or this is what
he does. He's a great backup. He come in one
one or two times a year and light the world

(01:57:29):
on fire. But any time he's been given the keys
to the kingdom, he's just not he's a he's a
backup quarterback. And you know what, Jamis Winston looked good yesterday,
like Jamis Winston the rest of the year. Stop pulling
him out, let him figure it out. Green Bay Packers
are gonna try to bounce back from that lost Thursday
night against the Seattle Seahawks, and they're gonna do it
with Jimmy Graham. Yes, not without Jimmy Graham, but with him.

(01:57:51):
His head coach Mike McCarthy said today that Graham is
gonna try to play through a thumb injury. Multiple reports
that he broke his thumb in the game against the
Seahawks on Thursday night. Packers have the Vikings coming up
in week twelve. It would appear to be difficult to
play football at tight end with a broken thumb. Right. Yes,

(01:58:13):
there's one thing to be all thumbs, But to be
all broken thumbs would just be horrendous. Yes, But to
have a broken thumb, that would be difficult in a
game that we'll have some great importance on Sunday night.
Mike Daniels, by the way, for Green Bay could miss
a few weeks with a foot injury. How about this
some college football, They have the easiest schedule in the NFL.

(01:58:33):
Coming up? What's college football? Note? Oh, the college football
notice this that the Arkansas Democrat Gazette reports that to
Arkansas defensive starters have been suspended for Sunday's or Friday's
game excuse me, against Missouri after they were spotted taking
pictures with members of the Mississippi State dance team prior
to their game on Saturday. So they were fratternizing with

(01:58:55):
the opponents dance team and ended up getting suspended for
their match up at Missouri or against Missouri on Friday. Why,
I don't know. I guess you're not supposed to talk
to the dance team or the opponents dance team prior
to the game that you bought, which they lost like
fifty two to six. Why you're just trying to just

(01:59:18):
trying to increase UH interstate relations, the interconference at least,
Chad Morris, this is not going well for you. What
are you doing? What do? What's some added with coaches?
It's a good thing Missouri doesn't throw the ball either.
That was said sarcastically, because they are like the throat.
Wait wait, okay, so it's Arkansas's defensive players, right, Yes,

(01:59:41):
two guys in the secondary and they've spent against Missouri.
If they're spot taking picture of Mississippi State team prior
to the past Saturday's game, I just don't understand what
the purpose of it is. It was because before the
game was because they they guess so I don't know.
If maybe they went to school with some of the
dance team members, I don't know. If they were hitting
on them, I'm not sure, but apparently it's against policy

(02:00:05):
to do that prior to a game. M hmmm, um
m hmm. Okay, I don't know. I listen. I'm I'm
gonna have to research because it sounds like one of
the dumbest things ever. All right, like what'd you get?
What'd you get suspended for? Like, yeah, I was talking
to some girls, well girls with a dance team. Like
good for your talking to girls, some attractive young ladies

(02:00:27):
in good shape. Yeah, but they would miss Tippy State.
Like all right, yeah, that's that's against the rules. Alabama.
It's really dumb. Alabama's really dumb. To a tongue of Voloa.
I mean, now, if you're now it's the Flag girls
that's different. Although SEC Flag girls look like most other
schools cheerleaders just point yourself, all right, we'll stay We'll

(02:00:48):
stay in the SEC. Alabama's to a tongue of Voloa
had his odds to when the Heisman dropped. Yes, Barvada
says a week ago he was the two to nine favorite.
Now wonderful or Kyler Murray of Oklahoma having his odds
get a little bit better at six to one to
win the Heisman, but after the runaway win against Citadel

(02:01:08):
in the second half, his odds did drop a little. Well,
what I don't get is how we've already given to
a tongue of Bolo of the trophy. Do do you
understand that? Is like, let's just give him the trophy? Like, okay,
well he was hurt this past weekend. They still have
Auburn and they have Georgia. I don't think, I don't

(02:01:30):
doubt that he's been awesome. Kyler Murray has been amazing,
amazing with an inferior team. Now, obviously Kyla Murray doesn't
play defense, so he's not blamed for how bad their
defense is. But the pressure that's on him to make
plays because their defense thinks so bad, where's isn't the pressure? Um,
you can still give it to two. But this just
idea that it's over already is really obtusive. Oklahoma does

(02:01:53):
have injuries in their backfield and been uh a couple
of times. Rodney Anderson ended up being lost for the season.
Trace sermon dinged up as well, so I had to
pick up the slack. They're sure to also could have
had a lot better numbers if his team wasn't so
dominant as well, you could have that argument. I don't
know if there's anybody else. And after West Virginia lost
this past weekend, I don't know. I don't think we'll

(02:02:15):
career as a finalist. Maybe he'll be a finalist for
the award, but I don't think that people are gonna
put him over to UH. Same thing with Dwayne Haskins
has been good, but I'm not sure how much people.
And then Will was not good in the second half
against Oklahoma State, and he just wasn't. I think they
scored one touchdown in the second half. Have you seen
this baseball trade that just came down? Yeah, I was
gonna get to it just a little bit. I have
some basketball and then I got some base That's right.

(02:02:38):
The Athletic Reports Cavs GM Koby Altman told Lebron James
that they wouldn't trade Kyrie Irving, especially to the Celtics
that offseason, but was then overruled later by owner Dan
Gilbert's showered and I'm good. Yeah, So Koby said no,
they wouldn't trade him, but the owner said otherwise. That
that the and there in lies the probably a big

(02:02:59):
issue with with Lebron James. With Dan Gilbert, right said,
you tell me one thing, and something else happens. I
will blint this out about Lebron. And and even if
Dan Gilbert overruled people and did things that he asked
them not to do, the point is that Lebron James
simply said, hey, over my dead body, do you trade
Lebron Kyrie Irving. I'll go and I'll see him and

(02:03:19):
I'll work this thing out. He never did that. He
never did that. And if there's if he ends up
never winning another championship, he could have won a couple
with Kyrie Irving. I believe that, but he did not,
and that was his own choice, whether or not he
felt compelled to do so or not. He should have
that trade in baseball that you were talking about. The
Mariners sending picture James Paxton to the New York Yankees

(02:03:42):
for a reported deal that includes three players. Paxton, of course,
had the no hitter for the Mariners this past season.
So the Yankees adding to their starting pitching, well, that's
the big question for the Yankees, right is will they
go and get uh Bryce Harper or Manny Machado and
maybe more importantly, what type of pitching will they go
and get? Yeah, I remember the no hitter, but I

(02:04:05):
think Paxson is pretty good picture and I mean this,
This guy is a top line starter, created in Seattle,
but throws some heat as well. And the finally, the
Indians veiled in new uniforms sans Chief Wahoo. Yes, moving
on from that as they promised to do in the
twenty nineteen season. So no Chief wah who on any

(02:04:27):
of the Indians new uniforms. I gotta get a Chief
wah who happen before you can't get him anymore? I
really do. I like the I like the Chief wa
Who logo called me Intenson may get out there in press.
That was the press. It's a cartoonish logo. Cartoonish logo. Yeah.
James Paxston thirty years old. He had two eight strikeouts
three point seven six e r A. Granted it was

(02:04:50):
in a pictures park, but if you look at his uh,
his splits um pretty good away as well as home
really quick. Ramos. Who you liked to night? Rams or Chiefs? Yeah,
of course you do. What about you write music? Give
me the Chiefs, give you the Chiefs on the road. Uh,
last chance there for you, Dan Buyer, get in Chiefs.
Chiefs are three point dogs. I too like the Chiefs.

(02:05:13):
I think they're gonna expose why they traded Marcus Peters,
and I think the Rams miss Cooper Cup. This is
Doug Gotlim Show, Fox Sports Radio.

All Episodes

Episode Transcript

Host

Doug Gottlieb

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know

24/7 News: The Latest

Crime Junkie

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}It's Time to Give Up on Kaepernick & Mark Schlereth