Kaepernick settles collusion lawsuit: Is this the beginning or the end?

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the dumpster fire comments from from his head coach going
back to last night. But no, that's not actually the
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just kind of blown away here by exactly what has
taken place in the National Football League and trying to
figure out what does it mean for the future. I'll
get to it in one second. Obviously, revolves around Colin
Kaepernick and a settlement that was just just reached by
the NFL and Colin Kaepernick and Eric Rei. The Doug

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take on Del Demps being fired, why that took place

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earlier today, our reaction to the mess that is New
Orleans Pelicans, and the really bizarre and kind of ugly
scene where Anthony Davis gets uh hurt? Do the finger
things hurt? Early in the game last night against the
Oycloma City Thunder gets an m R I and then
leaves the building, doesn't return to the bench, leaves the

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building with his agent who just happened to be in town.
All right, we'll get to that upcoming in fifteen minutes.
We got some Antonio Brown news to to share with you,
but let's not let's not bury the lead. The lead
is the NFL has reached a settlement agreement in the
collusion case against the league, which was made by UH

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which was made by Eric Reid and Colin Kaepernick. The
grievance has been reached after a drawn out process over
the last two years, Kaepernick Eric Reads collusion case against
the NFL has officially come to an end. Earlier this afternoon,
Mark Arrigos, who's the lawyer for Kaepernick and Read, and

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the NFL, put out a statement saying they had put
the officially resolved. The matter. Terms were not revealed and
they will not see the light of the day because
of a confidentiality agreement. Quote. For the past several months,
counsel for Mr Kaepernick and Mr Reid have engaged in
an ongoing dialogue with the representative of the representatives of
the NFL. As a result of those discussions, the parties

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have decided to resolve the Penning grievances and the resolution
is a matter subject to confidentiality agreement. So so there
will be no further comment. I could go on and
on and on, all right, but it is funny that
there's this assumption that Colin Colin Kaepernick would have made
X money. We don't know what he would have made,

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We don't know what his value would have been. We
only know that he's not been in nash Football like
And what's interesting about this is this comes on the
hells of the story that was released yesterday, which is
the a a F, the Alliance Alliance of American Football
had reached out to Kaepernick and Tim Tebow and been
rebuffed on both accounts, and Kaepernick reportedly had asked for

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twenty million dollars. And look earlier today I co hosted
the Dan Patrick Show, and I said, I understand the ask.
I understand asking for far more money than anybody else
in the league because not just you were starting quarterback
in the NFL and went to a Super Bowl, but
also because he's got a huge name, like him or
not like him, positive or negative press whatever, he has

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a huge name, one that would make the American Football
Alliance of American Football. He would. On the other hand,
it sounds like he asked for too much, and maybe
it's because he knew that he had this as a possibility.
As for the details of the settlement, which you have
not come out, I've seen Mike Freeman tweet that he's

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he's heard between sixty eight million dollars. Now, remember the
sixt eighty million is between two clients we don't know
the split of the two. You know, Also there's the
assumption that the lawyers get their fees, and even if
he ends up getting say it's low end sixty and

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he ends up getting a seventy thirty split with Eric Reid,
maybe even more split combined with whatever he has to
pay the lawyer, is that worth it? Well, it's worth
it if you're never gonna if you're going to play
football again. If not, I think here's what happens. We

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all have, we all have our inherent biases in regards
to how we thought this would play out. And if
you like Kaepernick, you walk in going want to win. See,
the NFL knew they had a losing case, and so
they settled and Kaeperni gets his money, and this thing
keeps quiet, and now they can't clude against him. He

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can play in the National Football League. And if you're
against Kaepernick, very simple. You sit there and go like, see,
wasn't about anything, but the buyout wasn't about anything but
collecting a check. This dude doesn't want to play in
the NFL. He just got himself a big fat check
that he can do whatever he wants with. When the
truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Of course, the

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NFL wants to settle this thing. They don't. The problem
with even if, even if the settlement was a quarter
of whatever they whatever they paid him, and who knows
what the amount actually is. Who knows. The fact is
that once, once the uh, once the deliberations occur, now

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of a sudden that becomes public record, and everything, all
the information gained in the collusion case, the full disclosure
becomes public knowledge. Now all the stuff, all the text
messages between owners, all the email correspondence between the commissioner,
all the phone calls, any of the investigation gets buried away.
That's what you're paying for. That's what you're paying for.

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And while you can sit here and go, hey, Colin Kaepernick,
where's the virtue just taking a paycheck? You know? So
keep his mouth shut, I would point out that the
likelihood is and I don't love Colin Kaepernick, the quarterback,
and I do find it odd that he hasn't said
anything in regards the movement that he started. On the

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other hand, like look, I'm not blind, deaf or dumb.
He's done good works with his money. And my guess
is whatever money that he's obtained, a portion of it
will be put towards good works, because that seems to
be the kind of guy he is. That doesn't seem
to be phony. So it's it's exactly what you think

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it is. It's what we hate in sports. It's a tie.
It was as no winner. It gives us no loser. Essentially,
everybody loses. The NFL loses because there's the assumption that
they settled a losing case. If they're gonna win, why
not just go to the mattresses and hey, we did
nothing wrong. Let's let this thing play out. The NFL

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becomes losers. Kaepernick becomes a loser because if the effort
was to get your job back and to expose the
NFL for colluding against you, why would no amount of
money is enough none for the fact that you can't
play in the National Football League. Kaepernick ends up losing.
On the other hand, Kaepernick did win because he didn't lose.

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He did fight the man and got some sort of
monetary benefit. And oh yeah, by the way, there's the
assumption that the NFL did something wrong. So he won there,
and the NFL wins because they put this thing to
rest because all their information goes back to being private
and they did not lose this case. They can walk

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around and saying like, look, we didn't collude against him,
Yes you didn't know, We didn't. There is no summary
judgment that says we colluded against Colin Kaepernick. No, we
did not. This is just like, this is just as
unsatisfying as any tie you've seen in the National Football League.
Ties stink. They make sense because they bring finality to it.

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At some point a game has to end, at some
point a lawsuit has to end. And this is really
really smart on both sides, especially in the NFL side,
Like this happens in divorce. You know, could I hire
a forensic accountant and find out exactly what she's been
doing or what he's been doing with all of our money?

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He's got it tied up in a bunch of businesses.
Could I figure out what he's been hiding? Sure, but
hiring a friends account is expensive. Every time I call
my divorce attorney, it's expensive. And at some point we
just settle and set up for a tie. Enough is enough,
Enough becomes enough. So here's my question to you, in

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your mind, who won? Who lost? And maybe more importantly,
it's Colin Kaepernick play in the NFL again, because if
you said, if you sue, you don't play in the NFL,
how come Eric Reid sued and now, of course has
reached a settlement and has signed a deal in the NFL.

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On the other hand, if he made a boatload of money,
maybe this is go away, don't come back. We don't
even want to hear you about you in the NFL.
That's part of a part of said agreement. Eight seven
seven fox eight seven seven six three six nine. I do,
in fact want your opinion. I'm supposed to sit here
and tell you that I know what what's behind sealed documents,

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and I don't know. I do know that Colin Kaepernick
bet on him help by not taking a pay cut
to play with the Broncos, and though his stats were good,
his team was awful, and I don't know what his
true NFL future would have been back then. I also
know that his girlfriend sent out that that Instagram meme

(11:17):
lining Steve Bashotti to a slave, a slave master, slave
owner from Django unchained. On the other hand, I also
know that I don't know if the NFL didn't think
they did anything wrong when they see this thing out.
But do you want to protect all the information which
is which you're able to obtain when you have a

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grievance against the league. I'd love to sit here and
tell you I know, but I don't know. I think
he never plays again. But there's a sense from other
people like, hey, look, if Eric Read's playing, why can't
he play. I think it's different at quarterback. I think
once you sit a second year. I think the fact
that he uggled with what it took to be a

(12:01):
starter may mean he'll struggle to what it takes to
be a backup. It doesn't change the distraction factor. I
think he's done, But I don't think that this was
simply a money grab. I'm guessing that he puts all
that money to pretty good use and and this becomes
what Colin Kaepernick is two point oh, but I don't
know that eight seven seven nine nine Fox eight seven

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This is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Doug Gotlip Show rolls on here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh,
we got a lot to get to here. Um, let
let me take a couple of calls. First, we're gonna
work in Karen Butler in a second. Also, I want
to play for Karen what Alvin Gentry had to say

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last night. And then of course that led to the
news of what we thought was the news of the day,
which is del Demps was relieved of his duties as
general manager of the New Orleans Pelicans. But uh, Raphael
and Cincinnati, you're on the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Go ahead, well, how you doing? Hey? Uh yeah,

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over the time, FIOD with this whole Kaepernick issue. In
my personal opinion, I thought that Kaepernick by I think
opting out of that last year, choosing not to stay
at last year in San franc that I think he
became radicalized in a sense by trying to find his
identity where he could be comfortable on his own skins.

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And I think that's where he went with Dr Harry
Edwards and then I think his girlfriend ness or whatever,
and tried to take down the man based on the
man being the NFL to Shield, but based on how
he started to feel about oppression the United States against
black black people people of color. So I think he
set out for a money grab, a shakedown, and hoping

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that he would get sev of the black players in
the NFL to kneel with them every game. And when
that didn't happen, I think he had himself out on
a wrap, and so he continued to go down that path.
What's next for me to get some money out of
the Shield, And that's what when he came up with that,

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they all conspired to keep me out of the league.
I personally dug. I don't even think he wanted to
play football anymore. It was all about a money grabl
Like you said, I believe that they want this you know,
a tie. But I think the NFL one, whether it
was twenty million, fifty millions, hundred million that they gave
the Captain Eric Read, I think the NFL looks at

(15:16):
that as a drop in the bucket. NFL is a
multi billion dollar business and they just don't want to
go through with this kind of like cloud like listen,
I listen, I appreciate it. I'll say this, Look, I
don't know if it was if it was ultimately a
money grab, I would say like, look, apparently he's donated
ten million dollars. I haven't done donated ten million dollars.

(15:40):
I haven't I haven't donated ten thousand dollars. I'm not
gonna I'm just I'm not gonna lie about it and
sit here and tell you that I'm some philanthropist that
I am. I'm not. At this point in time in
my life. I got my own financial issues and I
try and donate my time whatever. So I'm not gonna
sit here and criticize the dude who's legitimately donated his
time and his money. Do I do I think he

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was radicalized? Yeah, I actually do think that he was
very influenced by his girlfriend and by the place in
which he lived and by the things that he saw
in both the regular and in social media. I don't
necessarily know if that's a bad thing, um, but he
became a symbol for a movement, you know, and it
didn't kill him. It didn't hurt when Nike supported him
this year with the ad campaign, two years removed of

(16:23):
when he started that movement. And I don't know if
that he was colluded for. I do know that there's
you know, there's only about five six teams he could
actually play for. I mean, that's the reality of it, right,
because you know ten fifteen of the teams are financially
indebted and think they have better quarterbacks. You know, five
or ten teams have a live in you know, in

(16:43):
a place like Cincinnati where you know, like he'd just
be too polarized to be their quarterback. Like I think
there's other reasons. In addition, Remember he did himself no
favors with the pig socks, with the castro shirt. But
I also would tell you that, like, look, the dude
has gitimately started a movement, it became a thing. It

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has been recognized by Nike, and if the NFL really
felt like they had a locked up. Since this is
a BS case, they would have seen it out, wouldn't they.
I don't think he wins, but I definitely don't think
he loses. And I don't think the NFL wins, but
I don't think the NFL takes a huge l because
so much is not disclosed. We may never know. I'm

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anxious to see if he plays football again. If he doesn't,
I don't makes me feel like the settlement is greater.
It makes it feel like it was hush bunny to
just go away. All right, Let's get to the NBA. Uh.
Karen Butler joins us on the Doug Gottlip Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Karen, I want to ask you to
turn to the NBA. Last night in New Orleans, the

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Pelicans are playing the Thunder obviously the prohibitive underdogs after
getting blown out a couple of nights previously, and Anthony
Davis gets hurt early on the game. He goes and
gets an m R I and leaves the arena. What's uh?
Tough Shoes joined us in the Doug Gallup Show. You've
been hurt before? Hell, you missed the season when the
Mavericks finally won NBA Championship. What is normal protocol if

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you have an m R I during a game and
you come out as okay, thanks for me on the show,
Doug half halfway through the game, and obviously halfway through
the season the two thousand leven season when I was
injured and I knew that I was pretty much done
for the year. Um, it was New Year's Day and
I'm playing in Milwaukee and I ruptured my hotel attended.

(18:37):
That happened somewhere in the first half, and I was literally,
uh removed from the arena car services cag and you know,
uh I had to rush off for you know, to
get my second opinion, my third opinion, and you know,
uh see what the foreseeable future was, you know, with
the surgery situation. So those things happened, and I think

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that and I have to say this, like whenever injuries happened,
especially with guys that are significance or have already been
storylines and things attached to it, especially when it's a
slow day in sport. Today it isn't because the Kaepernick
situation and so many more with Dempse firing, but you know,
people are gonna pick away at everything, you know, you
see Rich Paul, you see agencies, you know, with the

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influence of athletes that's doing things that's people not accustomed
to see it, and you know it's gonna get picked
away at it, you know, And that's what's happening here.
I do think the optics have Rich Paul being there,
like right, like your your agent being there when there
was talk of you sitting out games and everyone knows

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everyone's headed He's headed to Charlotte. Regardless of which it is,
at least odd optics optics, is it not? Who who
would you want at your game when you're going through
the most adversity when you're talking about a business standpoint,
and as athletes you say just play basketball, or just
focus on the field, or just focus on the tennis court,

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or whatever the case may be, whatever your profession is,
they have to fight that battle, you know, outside of
that space. Now, I'm not saying that, you know, the
clutch management approach or anything was right, but I'm not
saying it's a hundred percent wrong either. What I'm saying
is when you have a guy an agent, they need
to be on call. And you have like a young

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superstar and Anthony Davis just years old. Um, I would
want my agent there to address any issues, whether it's media.
Ask my representation. Now I can't ask you here. You
go right there, you ask him and he's right there
to defend the situation. And what happens is that from
a media standpoint, because I'm in this space, now you

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get hesitant because you're not familiar with that type of approach.
So therefore you have to tivot your thoughts and now
you can't get the sound bite sort of the thing
that you want. So that's what's happening here. Um okay,
here's what Alvin Gentry had to say after the game.
Take a listen to tell you the truth. You know,
this this whole thing has been abused the fire, you know,

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and it's just hard, you know, for guys. You know,
we want guys to be professional and we want them
to do this, but it's hard for guys to go
through what they've been through. He says, we want guys
to be professional. Obviously some of that had to be
a slight at his now former general manager, but some
of it had to be at at Anthony Davis didn't Well,
you say want to be professional, that means people have

(21:33):
not been professional. What do you think that he was
talking that Alvin Gentry, a really respected guy, was talking about. Yeah, listen,
you always want people to take the high road when
you're talking about professionalism and being on time, being um
consistent in your craft despite whatever the case may be. Now,

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I think that when you're asking is he professional? Is
he not? Not? Your question? And the injury and that's
something to be yet to be seen or heard. And
I don't know what the m r I said. I'm
not that smart to read it, but I will say
this that we only know you know in the foreseeable
future what that case may you know paying out to be.

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But I do, and I have seen people leave the
arena with injuries in the midst of the game, whether
it's half time, wherever the injury occurred, and they go
off and get uh, you know, opinions off site, off
the location. It's like a lionsole ball. When you look
at the injury that he sustained h with the at

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playing against the Houston Rockets. He did not stay there
until the end of the game. Where did he end
up at a local hospital of Houston? Why because they
didn't have an m r I machine there or whatever
the case, to see or or an X ray machine.
It was out, so he had to go to the
local hospital there. So those things happen, and you know
we have to be you know, uh, just aware of
those things, and this not have sports raising to immediately

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have so many assumptions. Karon Butler joining us in the
Doug Outland Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, then Del
Dempster was fired today, What was your reaction, man? I
felt I felt bad for him because he was in
a lose lose situation and when in the winning situation
was not in his favor. And what I mean by

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that is that, you know, you see the players kind
of you know, taking on the approach, you know, from
Jimmy Butler going to you know, Philadelphia where he didn't
want to be, in Minnesota no longer, where you've seen
Don Maker men with the Milwaukee Bucks where he didn't
want to be in Milwaukee no longer, where you see
the situation that transpired with you know, so many other guys.

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And then now all of a sudden, Anthony Davis, because
he's on that shortlist of superstars in the game and
you know, a general generational game changer in the space
you know, he was in a situation in which he
could accumulated a ton of talent, and I think that
the best deal that he could have possibly got. And
I could be wrong, but I felt like it was
from the lost as his labors, and once he passed

(24:02):
on it by you know, the higher powers, obviously it
was something a deal that I felt like he wanted
to do. But you know, the people over him to
not want to accept that deal because they didn't want
to be an embarrassment to the association. And also you
look at the board of owners. You know, across the board,
they didn't want that deal to go by because now
you may have that being at Turney thing for more

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athletes going forward. So because it was not by popular
choice to let that deal go through, they elected to
not take the best deal that could have possibly been
on that table for them. Now you put him in
a loose louse situation because now he cannot acquire the
assets that's needed to make the team functional and better
going forward. And then he's in a lose lose situation.

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So the firing was gonna happen either now or wasn't
happening in the season, because they're gonna be like, Okay,
well you took a lesser deal, and you could have
took that deal, and it was a deal that he
couldn't make whether he wanted to or not because the
hands with side. So it unfortunate for him. But you know,
hopefully he lands on his speed at some point. Um,
all right, let me ask you about the two teams

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left in It's in It's wake. Let's start with the
Boston Celtics. Um, can can the Celtics get to the
level that I think people think they're talent? Like? It
feels like obviously Kyrie's injury would would derail them even
though they played well without it, play play well without
him last year and got to the Eastern Conference Finals.

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It feels like Gordon Hayward's actually started to kind of
figure it out and play better of late while Kyrie
has been out well, the Celtics ultimately figure out figure
it out. I look, I hope so, and I think
Gordon Hayward. I was on call with the Philadelphia game
and Gordon Hayward had an exceptional night. And I hate
when star players go out and they go on streaks

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and guys have out of body performances for a stretch
you know, the team was seven and two, now eight
and two without Kyrie, uh Taylor, mcbrown averaging over eight
seen points per game, and everybody's like, hallelujah, they're playing
the best basketball ever? Are they better without Kyrie? And
that's our job as a media right to stir up stuff.
But in all, in all actuality and looking at the

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facts of the case, they cannot win a championship without Kyrie,
Irving who else on that team that you can throw
the ball to. They can introduce you to hip hop,
their game changer, their legacy defender, their legacy maker, a
big stage player that score in the moments. You can't
tell the story of basketball without mentioning that uncle Drew
and what he did in Cleveland and what he's trying

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to accomplish in Boston. So you need a guy that
can close out those games. Now, Tatum and Brown and
all those guys, they're unbelievable pieces and they're gonna be
great going forward in the future. But Kyrie is the gamer,
and he's the closer. And when that game is on
the line, when you look back when they lost to
Lebron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers to go to the finals.
That was a possession ball game, and they went down

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to pretty much the last three minutes of that fourth quarter.
Had you had Kyrie Irving, the guy that's been in
those moments, locked management all those situations, I felt like
he could have got them over the hump. And because
you did not have him, you hit that hiccup and
Lebron was able to close that game up. Um last thing,
the l A Lakers. Now you have Lebron and the Lakers,

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and they they scuffle into the All Star Break, losing
to Atlanta, but they do have a longer break than
other other teams, and they are starting to get healthy,
but they have some difficult games remaining on the schedule.
Do the Lakers figure it out get into the playoffs?
I mean, I surely hope. So. I mean, Lebron James
did not come here to you know, rest or you

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know continue Obviously, one of the things you wanted to
do is continue to build a sports empire and all
the things that he've got going away going on off
the basketball court. But most importantly, I continue to add
on to your legacy. And Lebron is the great talent,
a great player. I think he's trying to see those
guys growing the fly with him and encourage them to
be the best possible version of yourself. So you have

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twenty five plus games left. When you come out after
All Star break, it's a time for those guys to regroup, refresh,
you know, get the trade deadline things, all that stuff
out of their mind, disconnect, to reconnect and come back
with a bright approach and listen. I wouldn't bet against
Lebron James. You know you're still in the Western Conference.
You've got a top five schedule approaching. You know, tough

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to schedule in the league, but you're still capable of
doing some amazing things. And I think they pull it off.
I actually do too. We'll see what they do. They
got Pelicans three times, they got Grizzlies up there. They
got games against teams that appear to to to be
more focused on the future than on on the presence. Karen,
enjoy All Star weekend. Thanks so much for joining this
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against the NFL. It is subject to a confidentiality agreement.

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The players Union says and hopes Kaepernick gets a job
opportunity in the league. Read of course, just this week
resigned with Carolina a three year contract. Alliance release safety
Glover Quinn. The Basketball Hall of Fame finalists will be
announced later this afternoon. It's All Star weekend in Charlotte
for the NBA, so no regular season games this weekend.
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All right, so Colin Kaepernick and Eric Read have settled

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with the National Football League and uh some people believe, Okay,
well now he's come back and play. You know, the
NFL p A said they're hopeful that he can get
a job. Eric Reed came back played last year, just
got a new contract. Um, but let's be honest, Colin
Kaepernick is never playing another game in the the Nation Football League,

(31:59):
like that that ship is sailed. That'd be my guess, um.
And it's more than an educated guess. Some of it
isn't talking to people. Some of it is living on
this earth for long enough. Nobody wants to be embarrassed.
They just don't. And regardless of the fact that the

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um that the NFL settled so that there was no
disclosure of facts to the public, people who want to
believe that that Colin Kaepernick was colluded against believe Colin
Kaepernick was collluded against in spite of the fact there

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are no legit nor should there be any hard money
figures in the media, right, none of them. Because it's
supposed to be confidentiality. People assume it's a massive pay
day and even if it is, that is essentially hush money.
This is go away money, right in order for the

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NFL to settle and signed him to a contract, think
of what that means to the rest of the owners. Hey,
he just sued you and you settled. It makes it
look like you colluded against him, and now you're going
to sign him to a contract. And like, let's also

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be honest, Colin Kaepernick was not a great quarterback. He
had a year and a half maybe two two to
two and a half where he was a dynamic quarterback
within the system with the San Francisco Forts. Do you
know how many years ago that was? Five? Is the answer?
Five is the last time his team was five in

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the NFL Five years ago, five years ago when Baker
Mayfield was just enrolling at Texas Tech. Five of the Patriots.
I know, but five years ago, think about how much
has changed in the NFL. You combined all the baggage
that he brings with him in regards to how he's

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viewed in league circles, the fact that he has not
to this point or ever been willing to be a
backup quarterback, the fact that his skills have obviously diminished.
Right his his main strength, and he did have a
good fastball, but he also was based upon his legs.
He's not the same athlete at this point time. Nobody
is as they get older, and he has gone through
surgeries and he hasn't played. And then you factor in

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that whether you think he won or he lost. He
sued the league and they settled for a case colluding
against him like Doude dead, dude is not playing in
the NFL anymore. The only way the NFL settles that
deal is if they feel very very confident that it's

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enough money to make him go away. Go away. That's
what you settled for. You don't settle to a mid fault.
You you settle so that it goes away. And had
they had had anyone desired him to be in the league,
it would have helped the league out. They would have
offered him a contract this year. They didn't. They didn't.

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All they had to do was have some a team
offer him a contract or offer him a try out
and work him out. They didn't. They couldn't work for
whatever reason. Now they're like, dude, we're done with you.
Here's your check. Go away. That's the way things work.
You can take whatever side you want as to was
he right or was he wrong? And how much social
injustice there's needed, and was it the right place. You're

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allowed to have your opinion. That's the great thing about
our country. You're allowed to have that opinion. You're allowed
to think which side one, which side lost. I'm sitting
here telling you I think I ain't better playing the
NFL again. Get out of here. Don't be that guy
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six nine. Ryan Music. What what you believe the opposite?
You believe he will play again, don't you? I do

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think he will play. I just one of the main
things that I think the NFL was fighting against and
pushing back against was the fact that there was this
lawsuit out there right now, and the fact that they
have settled that and now it's over and done with.
And the NFL p A released a statement saying, you know,
we're glad that Eric Reid has been given his chance

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to compete, and now we hope that he gets his opportunity.
You know, we now hope that Colin Kaepernick gets his opportunity.
I think they don't read anything into statements. Stamens don't
mean anything, right, They literally mean nothing. We hope I know,
I know they mean nothing, but I think it clearly,
you know, set the tone for there's at least a
hope or an expectation that he will still find his
way back into the NFL. It could have just ended

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with if he was going to find his way to
the NFL, he would have found his way to the
NFL when he was suing the league, so that the
lawsuit would have been able to go away. That's it.
Or there's teams who think just the opposite. Now that
the lawsuits gone, it's less of a distraction and we
can bring him in now. Mm hm hm um. It's

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not less. It's more of a distraction because now he'll
get asked about it and he'll say, I can't comment
on it, thinking it's gonna go away. James in Virginia,
you're on the Doug out Lip Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Do you think Colin Kaepernick plays again than you're taking
my car for hail to the Redskins. And as I
was explaining to the producer, I mean he lade up.
He brought up a lot of good points. You forgot
leave and I have to say that. But at the

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same time, then if Mark Sansants can get a job
with the Walking a Redskins, and I don't know how
covered Colin Kaepernick. It will because of the five year
high at it, especially at the quarterbacks of this, but
he certainly deserves an opportunity to show what he could do.
That's all I gotta say. John Johnson, he didn't take
a snap for like four years, and he did a
little something in the game. So it remains me seen.
I think you've made a lot of good points, like

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I said, but he definitely deserves a shot. Man. I
take off the air hill for the West. He didn't
have a great weekend, gentleman. Okay, I've actually explained this before,
and actually I'm really glad that he brought up the
name Mark Sanchez, which people think Mark Sanchez sucks. And
I don't think Mark Chang says pretty particularly good quarterback
anymore either. I'm not gonna sit here and argue with

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you back and forth about Sanchez, should be pointing out
that the same argument you can some of the similar
arguments you can make about Mark Sanchez are the ones
made about Colin Kaper. Like, hey, Colin Kabinet, he went
to an NFC championship game, went to Super Bowl. Mar
Sanchez went to back to back an FC Championship games.
Like oh Mark, Sanchez was signed to be a backup

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quarterback and the true job of the backup quarterback and
he has only one job. The job of the backup
quarterback is to get the starter ready. That's it, to
get the starter ready, which is what he did when
he was in Chicago. He wasn't supposed to play, he

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was just supposed to. Who would have thought that the Redskins,
who lost Alex Smith to a broken leg, would then
the very next week lose Colt McCoy to a broken leg? Right? Who? Who?
Who would have ever thought that was possible? But what's
important to know about Sanchez is not only is he
the consummate backup, but he also knew the system, had

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relationships with with coach, with with the coaches, like that's
part of why these guys get a job. The same
thing with Josh Johnson, Right, he had played for Jay
Gruden before in the Arena League. He hadn't taken a
snap in the NFL, but he'd been in camps, including
a camp with the Oakland Raiders with John Gruden. So
when Jay Gruden needs a quarterback, he's like, who knows

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my system? Would come in and a snap and pick
it up. A guy who was was was in camp.
We had Josh Johnson on That's the way it works.
Whereas Kaepernick is only really big, He's been in three systems.
One guy is the coach at U c l A.
He has no more eligibility. One guy's Tom Sula, who
will never be a head coach in the NFL, is

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a defensive line coach. The other guys Greg Roman and
John Hardball. He had a chance to play for Greg
Roman with the Baltimore Ravens, and his girlfriend tweeted out
a meme or instagrammed out a meme likning Steve Bischotti
to a to a slave owner, like they're probably not
gonna hire you as a backup quarterback. And look even now,

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like the Baltimore Ravens are the one place it would
make absolute sense. They have Lamar Jackson, who can't throw
as a running quarterback. He's gonna have to get better
and he's playing under Greg Roman. But do you think
Steve Botti is gonna go like, hey, remember that time
your girlfriend instagrammed out that I was like a slave
owner in Django and chained. Yeah, we're all good Now,

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I don't know if you've ever been called a racist,
but I have, and you know what, it's really not
that cool because there's nothing you can say or prove
to anybody that you're not a racist, even when you're
not a racist. So I'm guessing that Steve Schott is like, Okay,
so your girlfriend called me a racist, and then you

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shoot the league and you settled for whatever you settled for,
and you haven't played in a couple of years. I
got r G three, who he does want to fit in.
That's where I'm choosing. We'll get the thoughts of Joe Corey,
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to with our next guest, who uh is gonna join
us in a moment. His name is Joel Cory. He
writes for CBS Sports. He's a former agent. UM, he's

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negotiated these contracts. I want his opinion on. But first
let me give you a kind of the if you're
just joining us, the news of the day, and it's
coming hot, it's coming heavy. UM some smaller, kind of
smaller stories, some b stories are apparently, UM the owner
of the Pittsburgh Steelers is going to UH is going
to talk with Antonio Brown in person. They both owned

(43:41):
places in Miami. They're gonna meet, They're gonna break bread.
There is some other social media social media stories in
regards to this. Antonio Brown liked an I G that
called Ben Roethlisberger a rapist e. So it continues to
be ugly in Pittsburgh. Joel's also gonna join us because
there's rumors that Levy on Bell will be tagged, but

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not with the franchise tag instead the transitional tag. What
does all that mean. We'll get to that in a moment.
But the big NFL news of the day is that
the league has decided to settle with UM, Eric Read
and most notably Colin Kaepernick. No details, you know, no
details are have come out, likely will come out in

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terms of factually, we don't know money on both sides
that come out and said, hey, look, you know it's
it's over. And the NFL p A has come out
and said we'd like to hope that now Colin Kaepernick
gets a job in the National Football League. My opinion
is pretty simple, Um that this is it's smarter the
NFL to settle. Even if they felt like they could win.

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There would just be so much collateral damage when anything
that was negative. Remember once you have to disclose your
text messages between each other, emails between fellow owners. Um
that there there would be there's there's always things that
come out like It's just it's just smarter business if

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you could afford it to write the check and make
it go away, and make it go away even if
you feel like you didn't collude against him. And if
somebody was going to hire Colin Kaepernick, they would have
done it while this court, while this case was still
on the docket, so it would have made the it
would have made the the settlement or the collusion lawsuit

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against the moot. But they didn't, so they cut the
check in order to get it to go away, which
means that Colin Kaepernick won't play football and nash Football
they get her again, and to people who say it's
a money grap for Colin Kaepernick, but what he uses
that money for? In fairness to Colin Kaepernick, he's used
reportedly ten million dollars for uh, for other people. And

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whatever you think of his stance against the flag and
some of the other stuff that he's done, which I
thought hurt his hurt his positioning of leadership and the
fact that he's not a guy who gets in front
of the camera and really leads. He has had some
actions behind it, and they have been for good deeds,
and they have been for others, not for himself. But

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I think he's done playing football. In addition to the
fact that he hadn't played in two years, he hadn't
played well in several years. And it's not like he's
a perfect fit. And the one team he could be
a fit for has Lamar Jackson and his girlfriend had
an Instagram mean which called the owner basically a safe
master that doesn't go over too well. So my guess

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is he's done playing football. Let's bring in Joe Corey,
former agent covers the NFL for CBS Sports got incredible
a couple of credible articles this week, one about Kylin Murio.
I want to ask him about the other about Tom
Brady's contract situation, which is fascinating. I encourage you to
follow Joel Corey. I do because I learned something every
time I read his work. Um, when you and you

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heard that there was a settlement, what was your immediate reaction.
I was actually surprised that there was one, and I
looked at it his NFL risk avoidience that when their
request for summary judgment was denied last year, that meant
that there was a general, genuine issue of material fact,
and who knows what would come out in discovery, what

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could be embarrassing. So I think this is a way
for them to kind of put this behind them and
not have it continually looming where there is a possibility
that maybe they would have lost if this thing had
actually continued on. Um, do you think Colin Kaepnick plays
in the NFL again. I've thought he was gonna play
again as soon as he as soon as he filed

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the UH suit, I thought he was done at that
point in time. Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. I
think that the people look at Eric Reid and they think, well,
there a reed can play and the NFL needs quarterbacks,
why not Colin Kaepernick? Well, there's some chat olenges with
Colin Kaepernick that he's not your traditional conventional drop back passer. Uh.

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If he wanted to have a job, his best shot
was lost. Uh preseason two thousand seventeen with the Ravens. Um.
There are some other teams like the Redskins which would
never employ him. Um, even though they brought in Josh
Johnson this year. Which if you were going to bring

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in an unconventional quarterback and Kaepernick, you theoretically should have
been the guy over him. But I just think the
ship has already sailed. Once you're out of football for
one year, it's hard enough, and it is. The years
go by, it becomes almost impossible. I'm I'm with you completely.
Joe Corey joining us on the Doug gotlip Shawan Fox

(48:47):
Sports Radio. All right, let's get to something that you've
been tweeting about, something that I know that you know
a lot more about. All right, let's start in Pittsburgh.
Let's go with the Levyan Bell thing first. Because everyone
talks about Antonio Brown, no one talks about Levian Bell.
There's been talk of them putting the transitional tag on
him right, the transitional tag. What does that mean for
leby on Bell with the Steelers? What does that mean

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for his contract? Well, you can only franchise someone three
times in your career, and apparently the third franchise tag
you wouldn't play last year would still be at the
quarterback number roughly twenty five million. There's another tag where
you get a writer first refusal um if a player
signs an offer sheet. Apparently Pittsburgh would file a grievance

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trying to assert that the tag would be at what
would be the formula amount under the CBA, which you
put it about nine point two million, is opposed to
going off of his last salary, which would make it
the same as the franchise tag he didn't play this
year for fourteen a half million. If you the point
links of c b A seems to me to support
the fourteen a half million dollar tag. But either way,

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if they stuck the tag on him, um, it's way
too easy for anybody for to create an offer sheet
to Pittsburgh wouldn't want to match one. You stick a
no trade clause in there for a year or two,
if not the whole deal, then Pittsburgh will be stuck
with them to Pittsburgh doesn't put a lot of guaranteed
money in contracts compared to other teams. If you do
a contract which is structured conventionally, Pittsburgh probably wouldn't want

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to match. And what's what's significant about that is that
if you lose a guy an offer sheet, you don't
get a compensatory pick. You get nothing. So if Pittsburgh
want to tend sure that they would get a compensatory
pick in presumably at the bottom of the third round.
They wouldn't even fool around with the transition tag idea.
So why are they doing this? Wek they figured they

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can get something for nothing out of him. They will
because teams just always was amused by and for ust
at about the same time. Any time a team asserts
its rights, it's just business, and any time a player
asserts his rights first the fans don't seem decide of
a player, And to my experience was the front office
management would take it personally when you're actually doing the

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same thing on the opposite of the coin, doing what's
in the best enterest for yourself. So it seems like
there's always a double it's a double standard between what
was good for the team to do, and what was
good for the player to do or what was okay
for the player to do. Now, look, in fairness, I mean,
like ful full disclosed. You're a former agent, right, so
you're gonna side even even though your facts line up

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like you're gonna take the player's side. He was offered
barely not necessarily, I did. I thought he was insane
to turn down fourteen a half million dollars this year
for the hopes of extending his career UH down the
road when running backs in their early thirties don't make
nearly that type of money. I thought that was an
interesting and crazy decision to make. Yeah, okay, So what

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is his value on the open market, that's a that's
a good question. Um, he's got some challenges because of
the UH, he's got durability concerns and also the drug
program stuff from the past, so he's not the cleanest
person to go through free agency. He's a deal with
third running back, which helps. And you've had two guys

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who reset the market, Todd Gurley and David Johnson. He
wanted seventeen million a year, supposedly. I don't know if
anyone's gonna go there. It only takes one team in
free agency. But to me, the way you look at
it is just to break even. He's already in the
whole fourteen and a half million because he didn't learn that.
So what he was supposed to make on the rejected
Pittsburgh offer over three years, he has to get that

(52:27):
over too, from whatever deal he signs in free agency.
And I think that's a tough proposition. Douglive show Fox
Sport trait that's the voice of Joel Corey, Joe Corey's
former agent, now covers the NFL for CBS Sports. Let
me get to Antonio Brown. Okay, explain to me how Pittsburgh.
I know they save real money, but how do you

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how do you form a championship caliber football team if
you lose twenty one million dollars in dead cap money
simply by trading him away. That's a tough proposition. Um,
they do pick up about million on the cap from
his cap number versus the dead money, but then you
have to go out and get a replacement player, so
you're actually spending more money. I guess in their case

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it would be addition by substraction subtraction, not necessarily from
his production, but from everything else that goes along with him. Um.
Typically you don't see a team getting rid of who
is arguably the best wide receiver in football over the
past few years. But it seems like of all the
stuff that's coming out, either from behind the scenes or

(53:32):
now he's got a couple of his incidents off the field,
this may be a hard trade to make where they
get what they feel is good value from some other team.
Is there any other there's is there any other wiggle
room for him? Like they can't cut him right because
of his contract, um, because they're actually, as you point out,
normally the Steelers don't guarantee money. This is actually a

(53:53):
contract with her is at least for this year, some
a bunch of guaranteed money. Like, is there anything else
creative that they can do? Well? The thing is they
restructured his contract last year and turned salary into signing bonus,
so that gets pro raded over the life of the contract,
and when you cut a player, there's massive acceleration. That's
what the problem is. And then there's a two point

(54:13):
five million dollar roster bonus. He's due on St. Patrick's Day,
so once that date passes. That's two point five million
that they have to pay him and counts on the
cap cashing and cap wise, So if he's not traded
by September by St. Patrick's day, maybe the play is
they try to put some distance between everything that's gone on,

(54:34):
have him go into the season, uh, and then he
gets off to a good start, they move him before
the trading deadline if at all. But it's this is
a situation where they could cut the cap hit into
take it over two year period if they made him
a post June one designation in a cut before that
roster bonuses due. I want to ask you about Tom

(54:56):
Brady's contract. You wrote about the contract situa, shouldn't um
for people who haven't followed it exactly what is his
contract situation. He's going into the final verse contract. He's
supposed to make fifteen million dollars. The cap number is
twenty seven million, which is one of the biggest cap
numbers in the league. UM Robert Kraft super Bowl week

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said he didn't have any qualms about expending Brady's contract
and sees him on the team for the foreseeable future,
which for a player who was already seriously defying odds.
Is a little surprising that the owner would say that
Brady does something no other NFL player does. He consistently
undercuts the market and gives a steep hometown discount to

(55:39):
the Patriots. So I'm expecting him to give some sort
of discount again this year instead of trying to get
his full market value because he hasn't done that since
two thousand and ten. Mm, that's a fascinating last thing.
I didn't prep it for this and ask you flaccos.
So they traded for Flacco, right, but it's eight and
a half, but there's there's no dead cap money. It

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strikes me as what Denver is gonna try and do
is restructure his deal and whether they pay him a
Tom Brady sort of fifteen million dollars or maybe even less.
You know, give him some guaranteed money, but but try
and save money on the quarterback position with a guy
they think is fine, and then that use that money
to fill out the rest of their roster. Is that
possible based upon the contract they traded for. Well, if

(56:22):
you get a traded guy and you want him to
take less money, you should probably discuss that before you
trade for him. Um, if I'm Denver, I leave his
contract alone and take the whole eighteen and a half
million dollar hit this year, because what if he doesn't
work out? You don't want to restructure the contract and

(56:42):
turn day salary and the signing bonus. So then if
you cut him after this year, you've got a cap charge.
Right now, there's no guaranteed money in the deal. If
they cut him after this year, he's it's free and clear,
and they pick up all the cap all the cap
room from what a salary is going to be. So
I would simply leave it alone. But you gotta get
case Keenum out of there because you can't have another

(57:04):
quarterback who's making comfortable one. He's going to be a backup. Okay,
I said that was the last one. I lied one more.
It feels like Jacksonville wants Folds, and Folds would like
the opportunity in Jacksonville. Problem is that kind of what
you said about Flacco is exactly what Jacksonville did going
back to last year this time right where they extended
Blake Bortles. How what do they do with Bortles and

(57:26):
that money. Oh, they're definitely gonna cut him. Um, they
guaranteed six point five million of his two thousand nineteen salary. Um,
they're gonna have initially a sixteen and a half million
dollar cap hit when they cut them, unless they split
over two years with the post June one treatment. The
good thing is is guarantee as an offset, so whatever
he signs for with the other team, they'll get some

(57:48):
cap relief up to that full six point five million.
I don't know if anyone's gonna pay him six point
five million to be a backup next year, but they
should have just taken the full nineteen million dollar cap
hit last year and then he would have been off
the books and they wouldn't have these residual cap charges
for Blake Bortles because going all in with him was

(58:08):
always going to be full of fool's gold. Joel, great stuff, man.
I can't tell you how much I just learned, and
I know everybody else just learned in the last ten
minutes thanks to me, our guest on Fox Sports Radio.
Sure anytime, Thanks for having me, Joel Corey, that's at
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So Joel agrees with me. In regards to Colin Kaepernick,
I think I think he's done okay, But but what
what's your reaction to the league settling? Right? Because when
you settle, you don't admit fault, or in a criminal case,
you don't admit guilt or whatever. But you know you

(58:50):
don't admit fault. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't
feel like Kaepernick one, but doesn't mean he actually won.
And do you think he plays in the NFL? And
if your team signed Colin Kaepernick, what would you do? Vincent?
We'll get to Vince, we'll get to Russ. We'll get
some of your calls. Eight seven seven six six six
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(01:00:06):
Doug ot Lip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Get a couple
of your calls in a second. Regards to Colin Kaepernick. Uh.
New Orleans star Anthony Davis still plans to play in
Sunday's All Star Game, but it's depending upon how he
responds to treatment incoming days. Uh. That is a dramatic
recovery for a guy who left yesterday's game with the

(01:00:27):
with the Oklahoma City Thunder, got an m R I,
and then left the arena with his agent in tow Uh.
It was such a flammable situation that his general manager,
Del Demps was relieved of his duties earlier today. But
somehow dramatic recovery, Anthony Davis can play in a meaningless
All Star Game? Got it noted? Understood? Like, what what

(01:00:53):
are we doing here? Danny Ferry also named interim GM
Danny Ferry, who of course was previously a general manager
with the Cleveland Cavaliers when they initially had Lebron James,
and then was a general manager of the Atlanta Hawks
when they had the number one seed in the Eastern Conference.
Remember he got fired because, um, he read a scattern

(01:01:16):
report or a free agent report on Lull Dang in
which there was a store. There was a a a
metaphor for the type of guy he was where he
would say something to the media, he would leak something
to the media and then say he uh, you know,
chastise the media for wherever they got that story. Knowing

(01:01:38):
he leaked the media, there was a metaphor parallel drawn
to it that he was. It was deemed racist in nature.
Danny Ferry got a terrible deal in the Atlanta thing,
which is a bitter divorce between the previous owners, and
now he's going to get an opportunity to try and
fix the New Orleans Pelicans, at least in the interim,
which seems like a really smart hire, but a dramatic recovery.

(01:02:03):
Dramatic recovery from Anthony Davis a A eight seven seven
nine nine Fox eight seven seven three six nine. I
don't take phone calls often. I just don't. But I
do think that this is a story which, uh, you've

(01:02:24):
got your opinion and you kind of want to be
heard about it. And Colin Kaepernick settles with the NFL,
and what happens when you settle When you are the
one who's accused, right, there's just this assumption that you're guilty,
that you're paying for it to go away. And while

(01:02:44):
that could be occurate, it's also could be very accurate
that while you may not have done it, there's some, uh,
there's some other damage that could be done when things
are disclosed. Remember when they go in they subpoena phone records,
email records, text message records, and you're searching for something

(01:03:07):
to prove collusion there. There there can be some collateral
damage there. Things said about one owner to another owner,
about a third owner, about the commissioner, about the protests
about a certain player. Any of this stuff could be disclosed.

(01:03:27):
And so the NFL is just like it's just it's
just easier to write the check. It's just easier to
write the check, especially especially when you know the concussion
lawsuit was not as bad as they thought. They can
generate money a million different ways. It's big money to

(01:03:47):
you and me, a million dollars, fifty million dollars, it
doesn't matter. It's big many of you and me. But
to a billion a several billion dollar corporation that's making
money hand over fist, it's better off to not disclose
the inner workings of your business, of your relationships, of
your text messages, your emails. There is otherwise it actually

(01:04:07):
makes sense. Let's get a couple of these calls. Vincent Richmond,
you're on the dug Out Leap Show on Fox Sports. Trader,
go ahead, Vincent, Hey, thanks for having me on. Man Hey,
um So, my my take is a couple of different ways. One,
I think the NFL knows that something would have come
out that would have made him liable for uh, looking
like it was. There was collusion. May not have been

(01:04:30):
like you said, just because he didn't get an offer.
It doesn't mean there was no collusion, but there would
have been an email. There would have been some communication
that would have hurt them. But I think more importantly
is two things that I think journalistically, I think a
lot of folks are just lazy when they mentioned that
Kaepernick was kneeling against the flag or against the anthem.

(01:04:50):
But that's not really what his message was. But it's
easier to mention that instead of saying what it really
was is that there was he was had situations or
concerns with social injustice and he wanted something done about
that to manage that message. If you look at the
NFL's operations web page, their Social Injustice Initiative web page

(01:05:12):
has taken that message and now you know they've got
cleats for causes. Uh, Walter Payton's award, there's these are
their things. When writing on your cleets used to be
an offense that will get you find still still can't
You still can't write, and you can only do it
once the Walter Payton Award has has existed previously. Yeah,

(01:05:34):
I would always say this, listen, I know why he
I was. You know, I've been doing this a while.
I know why he protested, why he said he protested.
I think one of the big issues with Colin Kaepernick
was he said there was this reason that he protested
with social injustice and the treatment of people of color
by police officers. He hurt that with the pig socks.
He hurt that with the Castro shirt and oh yeah,

(01:05:54):
by the way, here's the major damage that was done
is that he hasn't led. He he did start something
which has had some positive effects. It has whether it's
changed police behavior or started a conversation, which was a
true intent, right was to start a conversation about it.
However you feel about his timing other protests, the or
or where you know, how he did what he did,

(01:06:14):
whatever it did at least start the conversation about it.
But then he like started a conversation like Okay, now
I'm gonna go like that. That's not That's not really
how it works is you have to continue to lead
the cause, and that that the lack of being a rudder,
honestly is the thing that derailed his quarterback play. If
you go back, and while you're right the idea, some

(01:06:38):
journalists will point out why he protested the flag, why
he protested during the national anthem, which some people took
to be protesting the flag, and when people made that mistake,
he was nowhere to be found. You mean to tell
me that from Fox News to ESPN to Fox Sports
one to anybody like we wouldn't have him on, of
course we would. Nobody can find him. And that's the

(01:07:00):
the original reason that he lost his job with the
San Francisco forty niners was his performance beginning to wane. Yes,
people had figured out that he had small hands that
limited some of the things he could do throwing a football,
That he was a little bit too much of a runner,
not great from the pocket, That there was some that
as their as their personnel wasn't as good, he couldn't

(01:07:21):
lift them up to a higher place. Yeah. Sure, But
if you go back and read google his name and
forty niners and being demoted, it was because he just
he wasn't a leader. He'd have his headphones on and
he kept to himself. And that's not what quarterbacks do.
That's not what quarterbacks do. So you're right, and but

(01:07:43):
and and but that's not the change that he's made.
But the point is that there has been this has
been an ongoing conversation in the last to three years.
Almost three years ago he started this where's he been?
Where's it in? I'm not saying he hasn't done good
works with his money's as he said he would do,

(01:08:06):
but if you start a movement like you kind of
gotta lead the movement a little bit. We'll get the
rust in Oklahoma in a moment. First, let's get the
Steve to say, it's not like there's this supposed to
be news dump Friday, Steve, and there is a lot
of news that's been dumped your way, absolutely, including the
Kaepernick news where not only he but Eric ree they
have resolved their collusion grievances against the NFL, but it
is subject to a confidentiality agreement. The Lions release safety

(01:08:30):
Glover Quinn. The Bills have cut tight end Charles Clay
Steelers wide receiver Antonio Brown, who has requested a trade.
We'll sit down with team owner Art Rooney the second.
According to NFL dot Com, the Broncos linebacker Brandon Marshall
will likely become a free agent next month. Falcon Stevie
Bryant Pool will be a free agent next month. Alabama
has an ounce seven new assistant coaches, including offensive coordinator

(01:08:51):
Steve Sarkiesian. Next hour, Basketball Hall of Fame finalists will
be announced. The whole's class of ten will be announced
at the final four. The NBA has off for All
Star Break the NBA All Star Game is in Charlotte's
Sunday night, New Orleans, Pelicans I fired general manager Del
Demp's consultant Danny Ferry is the interim GM. According to ESPN,
Jordan's Spee shot a first round sixty four, finishing up

(01:09:14):
his round today in l A after rain wiped out
most of yesterday's schedule. Tiger Woods has just shot a
first round one under seventy, so he's six strokes back. JB.
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next hour as soon as he's completed his first, which
he now has, so likely he well, let's say he

(01:09:36):
may not have enough daylight to play all thirty six
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by the way, one under par a seventy. I mentioned
Woods with a seventy. Phil Mickelson shot seventy two, Rory
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Sergio Garcia shot first round seventy five. As for the

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(01:10:41):
Capitalty news is kind of covered up the other news
of the day, which is del Demps was fired today
and the del Demps being fired. Harkins is back to
last night when you had this weird scene where Anthony
Davis gets them everybody do the finger quote thing hurt
against the Oaklahoma City Thunder. He goes out, Pelicans play great,
beat the Thunder at home, a team that had just

(01:11:02):
been wallowing in misery, this post trade deadline gloom. They
jump up and beat one of the best teams in
the NBA, and then Alvin Gentry after the game, after
Anthony Davis leaves the arena with his agent in tow
Alvin Gentry has this to say, to tell you the truth.
You know, this this whole thing has been a dumpster fire,

(01:11:23):
you know, and it's just hard, you know for guys.
You know, we want guys to be professional and we
want them to do this, but it's hard for guys
to go through what they've been through. So uh, then
we wake up today and the Pelicans fire their my
my best guesses or one of my guests is like, look,
this is yet another kind of ugly part of it.

(01:11:45):
But if you remember, like the Saints ownership, and you know,
Gayle Benson owns both the Saints and the Pelicans and
the and one of the stories you had heard of
New Orleans was they're still so fed up with the
blown with the blown missed call all in the NFC
Championship game that it was almost like they weren't paying
attention to basketball, and then all of a sudden you

(01:12:05):
started to focus on basketball, Like wait, wait, what you
didn't do? You did? You did what? You didn't trade
for a herschel Walker type of trade. Scott Kushner joins
us on the Doug Gotlib Show. He's a Pelican beat
writer for The Advocate. You can fall him on Twitter
at Scott d Kushner. Let's go back to the last night.
What what was that like? Where Anthony Davis, who hasn't

(01:12:26):
been well received, gets hurt and then the team wins
in spite of the fact that he left the floor
and left the arena. I mean, it's it was interesting,
but it was like they played better without him. Uh,
since he requested his trade. Uh, these guys that kind
of rallied together even when he was hurt. Um, they
were playing harder. You know, they didn't win all the time,

(01:12:48):
but they were playing harder in his assets. It was
pretty It's been pretty clear there is a chasm on
that team and that Davis was not fully invested, especially
you know, since requesting the trade. So you know the
fact that they went won a game against you know,
the right for the all star break. I don't think
that was as big of a deal. I think when uh,
the idea of Davis leaving in the middle of the game,

(01:13:09):
He's done that before, to go look at m R.
Eyes believe it or not that he even hurt once
or twice in his career here. But the uh, you
know it was when Alvin Gentry kind of admitted that, yeah,
this is a dumpster fire and then basically wouldn't talk
about A D and saying, look, we're not going to
deal with this anymore. We're only talking about the guys
that are here. And uh, and that's to say that, hey,

(01:13:31):
A D really isn't a part of them anymore. And
I think that was pretty telling overall. I think so
as well. I look, last night was probably the straw
that broke the camel's back, but it also wasn't great.
When Brian Windhorse reported that, uh, what was what the
Pelicans were simply, you know, trying to damage the Lakers

(01:13:52):
by releasing some of of the trade trade demands. How
accurate do you believe that story to be. I don't
think they were going to make the deal with the
Lakers for multiple reasons. Um whether or not they were
trying to damage them intentionally. I think kind of depends
on your definition of that. But there was no no
chance they were going to make that deal with the Lakers,

(01:14:13):
mostly because they wanted to have whoever the next guy
was make the trade. They didn't want Del Demps to
make that deal. And uh, they just they didn't feel
like it was responsible to have a guy they knew
that was not going to stick around. Uh, go ahead
and make you know, probably the biggest trade in the
history of the franchise, perhaps the Chris Paul was bigger. Um,

(01:14:34):
but why do that when you know that you're going
to be changing people at the top anyway, Go get
someone you trust and allow them to kind of run
their own ship. Uh. And so unless the Lakers through
an offer that was just absolutely obscene out there with
four first round picks and swaps and all that other
kind of stuff, there was really no That's why they
didn't even return calls, didn't do anything, because they knew

(01:14:55):
they weren't going to take a deal. I mean, you
don't return a call though, and makes the tree you
gotta gotta make, gotta make an asking some of them,
all right, So so del So, why was Del Dems fired,
del DEPSS fired because Anthony Davis requested to trade. Uh,
this entire tenure, I mean he's been there nine years,
it's not a short tenure. His entire tenure, basically since

(01:15:15):
two twelve was about building a team around Anthony Davis,
building a sustainable roster and winning with him and keeping
him for the long term. And the second that that
was understood that was no longer going to happen, Uh,
it was over. And I think it was you could
have you know, you could have fired him that day,
to be perfectly honest. Uh, this has been life support
since then. And they just kind of pulled the plug today.

(01:15:38):
Whether or not they did it because it was a
Friday afternoon before they all star break or whatever the reasoning,
I had heard, you know, throughout the whole week that
there was a chance that Friday was the day. So
I don't believe a lot of these reports that they
were upset about what ad did last night and then
they fired him. This was a long time coming with
regards to dell Um, and you know, as far as
long time being three four weeks, but this is a

(01:16:00):
situation that they weren't winning. I mean, they had Anthony Davis.
They were not winning. They won one playoff series in
Davis his entire tenure. Uh, this is a failed tenure
firm and general manager. And that's basically what it comes
down to. Alright, So Danny Ferry takes over in the interim.
Do you believe that he has a shot to long
term deal? Yeah, I think they'll have an opportunity. He

(01:16:21):
has a good relationship with ownership. I think they've leaned
on him a good bit during this the whole Lakers thing.
I know he was involved, uh to a pretty large
extent with with ownership because again there was kind of
an understanding that they were going to be moving on UM.
But I don't think he's the lead candidate. I think
you're gonna have a whole bunch of guys that they're

(01:16:42):
gonna look at. It's a bad job though, I mean,
quite frankly, with the exception of what you could get
back from a p H, it's a really tough sell
I think to a high level executive. We've seen these
guys the Mikes Arans of the world and David Griffin's
like turn a lot of teams down because it's a
really hard situation to walk into I don't in New
Orleans really has to sell a guy like that on.

(01:17:04):
So perhaps Danny is that is, if you know, a
good option. But uh, they're gonna look around. They're gonna
look around. A lot of guys are gonna see what
they can sell. And I think whatever, you know, whoever
takes this job, it's going to be come down to
what they think they can get in return. For Anthony Davis,
Scott Kushner, Pelicans beat right for the Advocate faum on
Twitter at Scott d Kushner, Great stuff, thanks so much

(01:17:24):
for joining us. And what is the story of the
day in the NBA heading into All Star weekend? We're
oh yeah, By the way, Anthony davis dramatic recovery is
apparently gonna play Scott in the All Star Game. It's
good to know that that debilitating shoulder injuries not all
that bad. Oh man, Well, I'm very excited for his
media session tomorrow here in Charlotte. Should be very exciting.
Thanks so much, Scott. All right, see Doug, all right,

(01:17:46):
we'll take a couple of calls on on the Kaepernick
collusion case, which was settled earlier today. Will gage your reaction?
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(01:18:53):
six nine. Story of the day is con Kaepernick and
air Creed their collusion lawsuit against an actual bull league
has been settled. We're gauging your reaction. You've got some
of my reaction. Let's get to Russ in Oklahoma. Russ,
what do you think? Hey, Doug, thanks for taking my car.
I'll appreciate it. No worries. Um So, speaking as a

(01:19:15):
diehard Jacksonville Jaguar fan, don't make fun of me. But
if you get beat out by Blaine Gabbert, you pretty
much demented your status as a backup quarterback in the NFL.
Fair enough, I mean, in fairness to cap he did
then beat back out Blaine Gabbert, But yes, he got
beat out by blame. Like we we we have a
tendency to misremember things. We just do. We we misremember

(01:19:37):
the fact that he had the weird parking incident with
one of his teammates. Right. Uh, there was the headphones
always on the facility. There was the lack of performance,
and and and here's the thing I'm willing to give
you that with Jim tom Sula, he had no shot
and even the personnel they had with Chip Kelly, they

(01:19:58):
had had no shot. Right. But if you want to
tell me that, hey, I went to Super Bowl, nearly
won the Super Bowl, and there's a big one. Also
went to another an NFC championship game like those are accurate.
But you can't give a guy the only credit for
the winds. Say, hey, he's a winning quarterback, and not
give him any blame for the losses and not point

(01:20:21):
out the leadership issues, the injury issues. And then here's
the other thing. You have a lawsuit. I thought, think
of lawsuits pretty hard to think that you're ever gonna
come back from and play. And then when you take
a buy out, when you take a settlement, when you
that's to go. That's that's go away money. Let's just
go away. That's what happened. Just let's just make it go.

(01:20:41):
That's what NFL people thought today. Let's just make it
go away. Rich And I mean, you know, would you
take him on the Jaguars? Now? Rich in Detroit? You're
on the Doug Otlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Rich,
what's your reaction? Hey, how you doing? The First off,
I just want to say, thanks for taking a car.
Very very excited for Kaepernick. I love what he's doing.

(01:21:04):
Um at least for the black community. He's a hero.
We appreciate them. And I think this whole thing starts
from the president. And when you look at that, it's
really baffling because the president is the same guy who
pretty much single handedly ruined the CFL. So why any
corporate corporation or anything of that. That that that nature
would take advice from a person who ruined a league
is baffling to me, and I don't understand. But it

(01:21:26):
seems to be a miscorrelation because racism is not patriotism.
I mean, this guy is actually using that his American
his his American rights to protest, so you can't say
he's doing anything wrong, but at the same time, say,
you're actually standing up for whatever calls. So I'm actually
very very excited for him and hopefully he never plays
in the NFL again. Um, I would really, actually I

(01:21:46):
would be more happy all the minorities in the NFL
start their own league. That would be better the cancer
because they don't have the money, don't have the money
to do it. Said, unless you have unless you have
enough black business, and they want to buy teams the
neatural football egg, you know, Like I don't. I'm not
not sure, listen, was there, um was there was? What

(01:22:11):
was racial impression? It was racial oppression, a real, real thing,
um going back thirty fifty years ago. Sure, Um, I
don't think that's necessarily the case. But like, look, okay,
if you want to tell me that there's still some
racial impression, like, okay, look, by the way, the highest

(01:22:33):
the race that makes the most money per capita is
actually Asians. Okay, so I'm not gonna sit here and
start a race war whatever. Okay. The idea that like
NFL players, we're gonna start our own ling, like, okay,
how are you going to do that? You have that
means these players, this current group of players, If you
did that, okay, this current group of players would make

(01:22:56):
no money for several years before you could ever get
it been running, if you could get it up and running,
whereas you already have the infrastructure and the way to survive,
by my estimation, like a smarter play is to play
as much football as you can for as long as
you can, because you're collecting. You're collecting checks, even if
you feel like the NFL is the man like. By

(01:23:17):
the way, the NFL has made plenty of millionaires out
of out of minorities plenty. What you do with that
money is up to you. If you want to pull
your money together and buy an NFL team, you can
maybe do that. There have been NFL teams, but it
takes a ridiculous These are billion dollar franchises worth over
two billion, three billion, four five billion dollar franchises. So

(01:23:41):
the way to do that, okay, the way to do that,
by my estimation, get as many African Americans as much
education as possible, raise up the overall wealth of the
of the population, and then buy teams. But the idea
like we're gonna start our own league, Like okay, that,
by the way, is what Donald Trump tried to do

(01:24:01):
and failed miserably in doing it. Mark Laira joins the show.
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(01:24:48):
the New Orleans Pelicans fired general manager Del Demps. Tiger
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For some players, the second round is under way only
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(01:25:11):
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News dumb Friday really comes from politics, right, and it's

(01:25:52):
in the old days and it's still kind of applicable.
It's it's applicable in politics. It's not as applicable in
sports because we cover sixty five. We have several different networks,
uh that that cover it, and and the phone the
ability to update it, but there's not as much commentary
of it. If it happens on a Friday afternoon, the

(01:26:14):
biggest news dumps our Friday afternoon before a holiday weekend. Right, Hey, um,
Ryan Music, what's coming up Monday? What what day is
Monday on the calendar? I do believe that would be
President's Day signify as a holiday, right, I think it

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is a federal holiday, yes, correct, correct, Which means there's
gonna be some news that comes down in the political
obviously not for this channel, but they'll be political stuff
because the idea is you got a three day weekend,
you follow your story early and then you're like deuces,
I'm out take the kids. You had an up skin.
Or if you're in in the in the Northeast, we're
going down to We're going down to Florida. Right here

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in the Midwest, you're going to Texas. You're going somewhere warm.
Maybe you're going ice fishing for the weekend. I don't
know where you're going, but you're going somewhere because you've
got the kids, got Monday out of school. Let's just
get out of the house. Winner, I gotta do it.
This happens in sports. Steve Sarkisian today was named offensive
coordinator at Alabama, place he had been previously like why not?

(01:27:21):
And that? Why not? Trump? The trumpet? That one? Like
on Tuesday? Why because you kind of wanted to. You
don't want to get slaughtered to the news cycle, which
by my estimation is why the NFL and the NFL
p A and Colin Kapern why they settled their grievance.
Colin Kaepernick and Eric read today. Oh it just so

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happened to happen on February, the day before a three
day weekend, so that we we won't have People don't
watch as much TV, they don't listen to as much
sports radio, they don't read their newspapers on Saturday like
they do on Sunday. And many of the Sunday stories
have already and filed. It's a news done Friday. So

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there's a lot of news coming down. Del Dems fired
with New Orleans Pelicans. There's the the All Star game,
which I don't really watch. I love basketball, don't love
the bastball start game. Let's welcome to Mark Slayverything, the
three time Super Bowl champion. He also has his own
really good local radio show in Denver. You can see
him call games for the National Football League on Fox,
NFL on Fox, and of course you can see him

(01:28:25):
on all of our studio shows on Fox Sports One. Uh,
Kaepernick and Eric Reid settle with the league. Do you
think Cap ever plays in the NFL again? Uh? You know,
that's an interesting question. I like, now that it's been settled,
I probably Gosh, I didn't even think about that question. Um,

(01:28:47):
I don't doubt that he might get an opportunity to
be a backup somewhere. I mean I've always felt like this.
I've always felt like, is there, you know, some collusion.
At first, I was one of those, well, he's not
very good if he wants to start his money, I mean,
people aren't gonna want to pay him starters money. And
then there's no question that there was some type of collusion,
some type of we're not going to sign this guy.

(01:29:08):
It always comes down to this, are you? Is the
noise that associates with you and the noise that that
surrounds you louder than the production on the field. I
think it's exactly why Tim Tebow was no longer given
an opportunity. Now, his skill set wasn't very good at
the quarterback position, but white people don't want us to
sign Tim Tebow is that his skill did not weigh

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the noise as a backup or potential backup quarterbacks, so
eventually you move on from him. Do I think the
NFL cobouted against him. Certainly. I think there was some
form of collusion, otherwise they probably wouldn't have settled. Um.
Will he be willing to go back and and take
on a backup roll for backup money potentially? Um? But

(01:29:50):
I just I just feel like he has become more
of an activist and that's more where his passion is
than it is playing football. And therefore I probably don't
feel like I don't feel like the NFL would completely
exclude America. Read just signed a big contract or a
new contract with Carolina that the NFL would necessarily exclude him.
I just don't know if that's Kaepernick's passion anymore. Oh,

(01:30:14):
I agree with you. I look, I don't know about
his passion. I just think, look, uh, did did did
Eric read Um? Did Eric read sign a contract last year? Sure? Now,
look at the league really wanted this thing to go away.
They would have They would say, hey, somebody signed Kaepernick,
you know, offer him big money, like get this thing.

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And the fact that they didn't and he was the
face of the protest, he was the face of the lawsuit.
This feels like he hadn't played in the league in
two two and a half years. You know, this is
this is go away money, right that that's what that's just.
This is you sued and even though you didn't win,
you didn't lose as well. This feels like go away money.

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I don't know whether it's an activist or just the
fact that at the time has spent and like he's
not wasn't the perfect quarterback anyway. So I kind of
think his message is more powerful if he stays out
the league, because he can say, look, they still keep
keeping me out of the league. I should still be
in there. They still don't want to even if there's
no proof of collusion, because that lawsuits already selling right well,

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but I mean just the fact that they settled it
says there was something going on behind the scenes. It's
like the NFL settling the concussion lawsuit. Um, you know,
without ever going to court, settling that lawsuit for a
billion dollars or whatever it was. And part of the
settlement is you can never talk about it. You know,
you were going to destroy twenty years worth of research
on concussions because we don't want that out there because

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we know there was something. There was a form of
mouthpieceans that was going on. So I think the same
can be said about Colin Kaepertick. The NFL looked at
whatever text message were, you know, whether we're smoking gun
that Kaepernick and his legal team had and say, okay,
there is at least it makes us look bad. Let's
make it all go away, walk away from this um.
And part of the settlement is you can never speak

(01:32:01):
about it. You can never talk about it. UM. And
so you know, I guess Kaepernick continues to get to
be that activist and I think that's you know, I
think possibly that's where as hard as UM. And again
I've never really been a hundred percents sold on does
Kaepernick really want to come back and and you know,
be a backup quarterback and grind through and earned that

(01:32:21):
opportunity again. Um, And I believe that his motives from
the standpoint of really trying, like he has sacrificed a
lot for for racial inequalities and what he stands for.
And I think he's happy, you know, being the face
of a movement and like I said, being an activist
and and therefore I think he you know, he essentially

(01:32:43):
got what he wants. Was the NFL to admit, hey,
you know what we did wrong by this guy, and
they settled with it. Doug Otlin show here on Fox
Sports Radio, all right, we're done with the Kaepernick Kaepernick
thing for now. Let's get to something I'm sure you've
discussed on your radio show. Joe Flacco. What was your comment?
What do you think about the move? Well, I mean,

(01:33:04):
I think like it's in an upgrade overcase Keenum. Sure,
I think it's an upgrade overcase Keenum, Like, like, how
much of an upgrade is it? Overtase Keenum, you know,
I mean, is it it's not going from you know,
it's not going from uh, cheeseburger to a filet mignon
type of upgrade. You know, maybe it's going from a

(01:33:27):
veggie burger to a cheeseburger, but it's not that great
of an upgrade. I would say the same thing I
said about case Keenum going to Denver, as I'll say
about Joe Flacco. If you don't seriously upgrade the rest
of your roster, especially your group upfront, your offensive line,
then I don't think. I don't think Joe Flacco is
gonna have any more success than case Keenum did. I

(01:33:50):
think you're based on your talent around him, you're six
and tom team regardless. So and if they have him,
if they have him, excuse me, Mark, if they have
him at eighteen and a half million dollars and no
guaranteed money for next year, doesn't that help them with
the cat. They're not paying a crazy sum of money.
They draft a quarterback, he's a little bit better, and
they can continue to fix the rest of this roster.

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Wouldn't that be fair? Well that yeah, that would be fair.
But the problem is is you're gonna have to get
rid of case Keenum, so you're gonna think about a
ten million dollar cap hit there. So you're essentially playing
Joe Flacco for one Now it's only one year, but
you're essentially playing Joe Flacco Aaron Rodgers money to be
your quarterback points unless they can find somebody to take
Unless they can find somebody to take case Keena, maybe

(01:34:33):
they hold on him and hope somebody somebody takes them
off their hands. They have and injured, uh and injured.
Let let me ask you about about Antonio Brown. UM,
I don't know if this is reparable. You know, Art
Rooney has gone down to meet with him in Miami
and he's he's liking uh Instagram posts that are you know,

(01:34:55):
going back into the past, to be going back into
the past of Ben Roethlisberger. Is that a fixable relationship? Well,
I listen, I think that one. Like I think Antonio Brown,
you know, would like to redo his contract again. I
think that it's reparable. Now. I think the bottom line
for Antonio Brown, he's upset with you know, several different things, um.

(01:35:19):
And part of it is, you know, his obviously his
own doing, his own selfishness. But I think when he
looks at himself, if you really look at yourself honestly
and critically, and I know that's really hard for certain
deva receiving DIVA wide receivers to do. But if you
really look at your situation, where are you going to
find a better situation where you've got a potential Hall
of Fame quarterback, you've got a great offensive line, you

(01:35:42):
throw the ball an absolute ton, Your quarterback is constantly
looking for you, and you're and you're gonna put up
big numbers. I mean, look around the league, you know,
look around like I called a bunch of Arizona games.
You want to be there, you know, where they can't
block anybody. They got a second year quarterback that a
lot of people have question marks about. They're even talking
so much about, you know, can we move him and
pick up a column Kyler Murray Like, look around the

(01:36:05):
league wherever they're gonna ship you if they end up
finding someone to ship you too. But there's a lot
of bad teams. So I think it's reparable in that
if he's really honest with himself and he really looks
around the league, he could sit there and go, you know,
I've got it pretty good here and they take care
of me, and they put up with a lot of
my crap, and it is crap, and he knows it's crap.

(01:36:25):
So um some of the things that he does so
you know, I think it's reparable. Um, I don't think
there's any question that it's reparable. It's just a matter
of Stevens wanna you know, the Stevens want to go
down that road with him. Great stuff, stink Mark Slayra
three time Super Bowl champion. It's a news dumb Friday,
But that doesn't mean that that that you're a news
dumper at that. Have a great President's Day weekend. We

(01:36:47):
appreciate you join us. You gotta thinks man pleasures mind.
We'll turn back to the NBA as we get you
ready for All Star Weekend. J Williams, VSPN joins the show. Next,
what does he think about the dumpster fire in New Orleans?
And uh, and we'll get his sense of whether or
not Kyrie Irving ends up in New York. By the way,
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Doug ot Leap Show here on Fox Sports Radio. M
M M M M M M M M M eight seven, seven,
nine nine. Fox is in fact the phone number. UH news,
Dumb Friday. We'll see what else breaks else breaks later today.
As we've already had, We've always had Dell deps fired, right, Um,

(01:39:28):
you've already had. Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid settled their
grievance with the National Football League. I don't think this
is the type of day where Bryce harper MANI Machado signed,
but you never know Luis Ervino signed a contract extension
avoiding arbitration. Who knows news? Dumb Friday Here on the
Doug gott Leap Show. I am trying to gather your
thoughts on the National Football League and they're uh settling this,

(01:39:53):
this uh dispute, this grievance with Eric Greden Colin Kaepernick
my because I don't think Kaepernick plays football again, and
and honestly, like I understand the previous story about the
Alliance of American Football, like I understand that. Look, if
I really want to play football, I just want to

(01:40:14):
play football, I could show guys that I can play
and then tell them to go stick it right throwing
four hundred yards ball out if I really want to play.
I don't think he really wants to play. I think
he's actually at a position of strength, and I got
the I don't I don't think he should have said
twenty million dollars, But I do think you asked for

(01:40:34):
a kind of crazy sum of money in comparison to
what other people make. Problem is, the whole league makes
twenty eight million dollars. You asked for twenty, like they're
like thanks, no, thanks, not serious about it. But right now,
Colin Kaepernick, even though we have no idea, no what,
none of you don't act like like I know that
the NFL had something like all right, there's some sort

(01:40:55):
of case for a collusion. I guess you could make.
I can make the case against it if I don't know.
I don't know what the email said. You know what
text messge to say. I do know that people that
that companies, even when they think a lawsuit is completely frivolous,
they'll settle not just to let's make you go away,
but also because there's something else that they don't want

(01:41:16):
disclose to the public. Like think about it. You're an
owner and NFL team, and many of them have other businesses.
Some of them like other owners, some of them don't.
Some of them like the commissioners, some of them don't.
There's this issue, there's other issues in the Nation Football League.
There's all kinds of things you don't want out there.
It reads in texts can read really bad. And the

(01:41:39):
second this thing goes to, you know, goes to where
somebody makes the decision on on guilt or innocence or
in this case liability, all of that can become public information.
Now it's all buried. It's worth it for the NFL
to write the check and make it go away. But
part of making it go away is and playing football again. Dude,

(01:42:00):
It's part of the deal. And if you're Colin Kaepernick,
you're like, Okay, I won't I won't play football anymore.
And you don't have to tell anybody why you're not
playing football anymore. You can go like, look, they're still
holding me back. They still won't let me play. If
they wanted this lawsuit to go away, somebody could have
offered him a major contract, but they didn't. James and Charleston,

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you're on the Dug out Limb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
What do you got? James? The first things First, I
want to say, yeah, thank you for making the last
half of my work day suck just a little bit less. Uh.
What I want to say is I've got a hot take.
I think the reason Colin Kaepernick turned down the a
F deal was because he still had this collusion still

(01:42:45):
going on with the NFL. I think what's gonna be
happening here in about a year is the XFL is
going to launch and who loves this? Uh great in
determination better and Vincent Kennedy McMahon And what better poster
child could he have for watching the XFL than Colin

(01:43:06):
Kaepernick with kaepern Nick brain along a Nike deal. Now
with Carlin kaeperni kappen to play for the XSL. Maybe not,
And maybe Colin Kaepernick knows that he's passed his prim
as a player. But if he did decide to choose
to play, that would be a good starting point. He
could be the first player named to a team for
the XSL, which would get people interested in the XSL.

(01:43:27):
Or even better, bring him on as a color analyst
or bring him on he's not gonna be. He's not
gonna be a color analyst. He's not gonna be. He
doesn't have a personality. He doesn't like you know. It's
like and by the way, Vincent ncmahn is kinda um
do I think he likes the It's like Rhonda Rousey
before Rhonda Rousey left. W W like does that that?

(01:43:49):
Marketing wise? That sounds great? Like Conn Kaepernick, he could
be could could make millions of dollars in marketing if
you would just say something. The only thing we've of
him say, is a sacrifice? What was it? Sacrifice? Uh?
Something you know even means sacrificing everything. Believe in something
even means sacrificing everything. Remember that that's the literally the

(01:44:12):
only thing we've ever heard him say since he left
the San Francisco forty Niners. Like, look, dude, this is
not that's he's gonna be a social activist. He's not
gonna play in the XFL not doing that. It's not
I mean maybe maybe if he needs the money. Maybe,
And look, Derek, too many people. I'm sure Clay Travis

(01:44:34):
is already tweeting out like it's a money grab, and
maybe it is. But I will tell you this, like
do I I look, I don't think Colin Colin Kaepernick
is a saint. I don't think any of us are saying.
I don't think any of us are are perfect. I
don't think he was the perfect guy for this vehicle,
especially because he doesn't seem to have the desire to
be the outfront leader of a movement which he kind

(01:44:55):
of started right um that said, like, look, he's donated
ten million dollars of his own money, and so he
consider and go like, well, it's a money grap My
guess is he's going to donate a good portion of
his money because he's done it in the past, and
he's got the Nike deal and he get is he
gonna make money of Yeah, he probably wants to live
and he probably wants to be, you know, a social

(01:45:16):
justice worth that's what he wants to do. It doesn't
mean that he has to live in dire poverty, um.
But the idea that he's gonna go play in the XFL,
we didn't want to play in the a F. That's
not what who this guy is. He told people when
he went to Seattle he was a starting quarterback. That's
why they didn't offer him a deal. Chris and Louisiana,

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you're on the Dug got Lip Show on Fox Sport.
Trait a go ahead, Chris, Hey, Doug, are you man good?
I think I am absolutely happy at the point that
we are where he is, Uh, he's got his money.
The NFL is at the point where they can say,

(01:46:00):
all right, we settled this, let's move on. But I
don't think that's gonna happen. I think I think he's
going to raise some sort of a stink, some sort
of an issue in the future where they're going to
break open the tons of the contract and he's not,

(01:46:20):
And no, he's not, he's not. It's a confidentiality agreement.
He's not. Then he has to get back every penny
of the money. He's not. He's not not, he's not
violating the confidentially all agreement. This is not. This is
not you know somebody who sleeps or allegedly sleeps with
the president and then twenty years later violates the confidential agreement, Like,
that's that's not what happens. A confidential agreement with the

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National Football League is pretty ironclad that he's not going
to leak any information out. He's not going to raise
up any stink. He may raise up a stink in
terms of if if there's a if there's a moment
of police brutality, he may appear and march with the
protesters and be a leader in that way in the movement.
But but, but his dealings with the NFL are essentially done.

(01:47:04):
And oh yeah, by the way, because he's not playing
in the Nation Football League, his platform isn't his big,
it's just not as big. But he signed a confidential agreement.
Everyone is going their separate ways. And my guess is
this is money to say, Hey, go away, you can
do your social justice thing. We're gonna do our NFL thing.

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Goodbye to you. Let's get to Steve to say and
find out what else is going on in the world sports.
Steve what he got. Guess who just got nominated as
a finalist for the Basketball Hall of Fame. I know
it's not. Guess who? Hold on? Hold on? There are
thirteen finalists. You got a yes, and by the way,
they yes. Eddie Sutton is up for the Basketball Hall

(01:47:47):
of Fame this year. Former coach Bill Fitch as well
Marcus Johnson, Sydney Moncreef, Paul west Fall, Jack Sikma, Bobby Jones,
Chris Webber is up for the Hall of Fame. Ben
Wallace as well. Referee Hugh Evans is on the list.
April six, at the Final four, the whole class of
will be announced. The New Orleans Pelicans fired general manager

(01:48:08):
Del Demps. New Orleans star Anthony Davis has asked for
a trade consultant. Fanny Danny Ferry is the interim GM.
According to ESPN, the NBA's offer All Star Break the
NBA All Star Game is in Charlotte Sunday Night. Tonight
the Celebrity Game including X wide receiver Steve Smith, Ray
Allen dr Oz, JB. Smoove and others. Rising Stars contest
tonight as well, and for All Star Saturday Night, the

(01:48:29):
three point contest will include Steph Curry, Charlotte native and
his brother Seth Curry. Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid did
resolve their collusion at Grievances against the NFL. It's subject
to a confidentiality agreement. The Bill's cut tight end Charles Clay,
the Lions release safety Glover Quinn. Alabama formally announced seven
new assistant coaches, including offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian Tiger Woods

(01:48:52):
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Rain had wiped out most of yesterday's schedule. Woods has
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back of the new leader JB. Holmes, who's just finishing
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By the way, Phil Mickelson with a one over seventy
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(01:49:15):
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on Fox Sports Radio eight seven seven nine on OX
eight seven seven six three six nine. I have I
have a couple of of sayings that you can use. Okay,
you're ready for him. You're writing these down, Snug gotlip Show. UM.
Next week, by the way, I'll be co hosting First

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Things First in New York City as well as of
course this radio show. UH one is no one ever
seeks a second opinion on good news. Mr Gottlieb, you
don't have cancer. Well, Doc, I'm gonna have to go
get a second opinion. Right. That just doesn't That doesn't happen.

(01:50:39):
So no one ever gets the second opinion on good news. Right.
It's a gottli bism. Here's another one, Um. There are
no more secrets, only facts that are yet to be revealed.
And the easiest parallel to it is, do you remember
when Tom Brady was being investigated for defilay Gate. Now

(01:51:01):
tom Brady destroyed his cell phone, and too many of
you that incriminates Tom Brady. It doesn't to me. It
doesn't to me, Um, And the the logic behind it is,
I don't think Tom Brady wanted anybody else to have
his cell phone because he knew there are no more secrets,
only facts yet to be revealed. That what eventually happened

(01:51:24):
would have been even worse, which is there were emails
that they investigated that were linked and that we're not
so flattering about paid Manning. Do you guys remember that?
Like I get that you think everyone is on the
up and up and every the the idea that things

(01:51:44):
will be kept quiet. Now that The one caveat to
that is when there's a not when when there's an agreement,
a confidentiality agreement with a multi multi multibillion dollar corporation
like the National Football League, it's a settlement agreement of
what I would I would guess is at least seven
and likely eight figures. That is an ironclad confidential agreement.

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You ain't talking about it. You ain't, you ain't winking
about it. You're not making any han han jesters. You
can't go somebody says forty million. You can't go up,
up up. You can't point up, you can't point down.
You can't nod, you can't wink, you can't no, no, no no, no, no,
none of that stuff. Brady's email in two thousand fifteen

(01:52:33):
was in response to a grant Land story about the
decline of Peyton Manning compared to Tom Brady. Tom Brady said,
I've got another seven to eight years. He has to.
And by the way, Tom Brady was right. He actually
overestimated how many years that that Peyton Manning had. I mean,

(01:52:54):
he was right. I got seven eight more years. Don't
believe me. Look what he's doing now. Seven eight be
a little bit inflated, and the two was inflated for
paid Manning. But it doesn't matter if you're right. It
matters that he was seen as talking trash about Peyton Manning.
That's all, admit. Matters how it perceives, how it how
it reads in print. And so if you're the National

(01:53:15):
Football League and he like, well, if you settle, you
admit guilt. No you don't. That's part of the deal.
It's part of the deal. Look, you settle, so it
goes away if you leave in the hands of a judge. Yeah,
no idea how they perceived something. They don't know your industry.

(01:53:37):
They don't know that Colin Kaepernick doesn't fit into of
the teams because of his skill set. They don't understand
that Colin Kaepernick's only played in three different systems and
the only one he'd been successful in was the one
with Greg Roman, the one with John with Jim Harbaugh
as the coach, And Jim Harba doesn't coach in the NFL,

(01:53:58):
so he can't be the rabbi in the room. The
one who could was John Harball, his brother, and they
wanted to bring him in and they had Greg Roman
and then his girlfriend sends out an Instagram with a
meme basically calling the owner a racist. A judge doesn't
might might read into that be like, well, there's already
want other teams, why can't he play there? Well, he
can't play for the Patriots because they have an awesome

(01:54:20):
quarterback and he doesn't fit into how they play. And
oh yeah, by the way, that team kind of doesn't
like distractions. Kind of works for them. You know. The
Rams don't need him. They don't need a distraction. They
have a quarterback. They got his issues of his own. Like,
let's go through all the Seattle brought him up there.
You want to be a starter, like we're good. Russell
Wilson doesn't want him to be his backup. He already

(01:54:42):
has enough problem with the the defense or at least
the former l ob hating him. The Niners didn't want
him be played there. They didn't like him. It was
a new regime. They wanted him out, like, kind of
go through the list. The Giants don't want him, not
their thing. You think Eli Mannie wants con Kaepernick. There
no Green Bay Packers they want them, know, like kind

(01:55:03):
of go through there's but but a judge might read
into it. And even if even if they were going
to win a court case, the fact is that they
would lose. There's no winning this in the NFL. If
it once, it once, it was going to go to
the distance that this was. This was a loser. It
was a loser because lots of secrets get get exposed.

(01:55:26):
That's what disclosure is, and it would become public information
and it would be embarrassing. And so look, I have
no idea how guilty or how liable the NFL was.
Neither to you, by the way, Oh no, I know
you don't. You have no idea. We're all making assumptions.

(01:55:48):
But I can tell you that in corporate America, there's
always a point where you're like, this thing is going
to go to the distance, settle, get rid of it.
How much does it cost? Get rid of it? Do
you remember the um horrific story about the little kid

(01:56:09):
that was eaten by an alligator at Disney World? Do
you do you remember? That story was a couple of
years ago. The family never sued. Do you know why?
Because Disney was like, this is a bad story. We
are going to go right as big a check as possible,
and we are going to make it go away. It

(01:56:29):
doesn't go away for the family. There's no money, there's
no monetary amount that that that brings back a child
who was at what we thought was the happiest place
on earth, right, like a perfect setting for family, and
you know it gets killed by by an alligator. Like, oh,
there's no fixing that story. But what's worse is if

(01:56:49):
it goes to trial and then documents come out that
Disney doesn't like kids. There's somebody at Disney it works
there that uh, stupid as kids are all annoying. Oh,
these paying customers, let's jack up the price, or that
they're negligent in terms of their security, or you know
how much they protect people from allegator. There may be

(01:57:10):
all kinds of health and safety issues we don't know about,
but they're buried in those emails, and once you get
the full disclosure, you know, all bets are off. You
cut the check. That's what the NFL did. They cut
a check. It's always a little bit larger than it
should have been, but they got the check. Yes, Ryan Music,

(01:57:34):
what type of like how specific do you think the
restrictions are on Kaepernick in this settlement? Like do you
think if people like are they just he's gonna have
to say like, hey, you know, you know I'm not
supposed to talk about Like if someone says, you know, hey,
how do you feel about it? Do you think he's
like even allowed to comment on it? Like how strict? Yeah,

(01:57:55):
he's just he has to pretend like it did not happen.
If you wants to keep every penny that he was given,
and remember a good portion of his going to Mark
Garrigos's attorney if he wants to if they want to
keep any of it, there is a strick. I am
not allowed to comment on that. You know that I'm
not allowed to comment. I'm on the wink. I'm not
allowed to shake my head. I'm a lot of smile.

(01:58:16):
I'm not how to do anything. And you know the
is is gonna be just tracking, no question. Let me
let me explain something about the NFL. There's a true
story the NFL's chart if UH for for Fox Sports one.
Any time you see uh any sort of highlight or

(01:58:37):
play a play of the NFL on Fox Sports one, right,
it costs fifty thousand dollars per minute? And you're like,
who keeps track of that? Right? I mean, like you
know Calherd talks about Tom Brady every single stinking day

(01:58:59):
and Aaron Rodgers. He likes Brady, hates Rogers. He talks
about him every day. We listen to a show I
guess host his show, right, And so we've we've seen this,
you've seen um, you've seen um uh what's called vos,
like you know voiceovers when you're talking, you're talking over video.

(01:59:21):
It cost fifty thousand dollars a minute. And you're like,
who's gonna track that? You know who tracks that? The
National Football Day tracks it? Right. There are people that
sit up at their offices and all they do is
watch the sports networks. They're like, oh, yes, who's played.
That'll be fifty dollars, That'll be another fifty dollars. That'll

(01:59:45):
be another fifty dollars. And so if you don't think
they would if Colin Kaepernick speaks, we talked about Ef
Hutton all week, they would listen. The controversial Matt Coucher
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(02:01:33):
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Hopefully Kevin McHale doesn't call me Um. Richard head right
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McHale is very well loved in Los Angeles. Still sure
Tiger Woods by the way on the course. We'll get
to Att Coucher in a moment. But Woods has shot
a first round seventy and has started his second round.
He's on whole number three. Remember they got reined out
for most of the players yesterday. Jordan's Speech shot a
sixty four. He's back for a second round tomorrow. A
guy who shot a hole in one. Though as the

(02:02:15):
leader now by one stroke JB. Holmes, Matt Coucher heard
the cat calls from the spectators at Riviera country Club
today following his first round. He's issued a statement apologizing.
You remember the payment to the caddy in Mexico from
last year. He says, I had made comments that were
out of touch and insensitive, made a bad situation worse
that made it seem like I was marginalizing David Ortiz

(02:02:36):
and his financial situation. Not my intention, Coucher said, I
read my comments again in cringe. That's not who I am,
not what I want to represent. Golf is a game
where we call penalties on ourselves. I should have done
that long ago and not let this situation escalate the situation.
The filling caddy got five thousand bucks, while the winner
of that tournament, Coucher, got nearly one point three million. Now,

(02:02:59):
Matt Coucher thought he was like doing on a solid
because the specifics of the arrangement is, hey, caddy, you
get four thousand. If I finished in the top ten,
Hey I want it. Here's an extra foul. No, it was,
it was, it was, I believe it was four thousand
for the week, right, I think that's I think it's
two thousand for the week regardless. And then when he won,
he gave an extra two thousand if he made the cut,
and then a little more after that. Right. But this

(02:03:21):
is what this is like. Okay, so he got five
thousand cash past, like, yeah, five thousand cash. You know,
actually that's like that's like a million mocks. He's gonna
get fifty now. This guy is a regular caddy at
that resort near Cancun where the time I played it,
I've played it before. It's fun course, so I'm always
surprised at how it's the p G a h A tournament,
but of course they lengthen it whatever um anyway, But

(02:03:44):
this is what it's like, Steve. This is what we
were talking about this this morning. This is like you
go up to a bar and I don't I'm not
a big drinker, and you do what I do, which
is like Arnold Palmer and the bartender does you a
solid and he makes you fifteen Arnold Palmers while you're
watching you're watching sports on TV, and he brings you
whatever you eat. You know, you eat your steak for

(02:04:04):
dinner and he ends up, you know, saving you I
don't know, fifty dollars because he kept feeding you Arnold
Palmer's even though you weren't drinking booze the way you're
supposed to be drinking booze at a bar. And then
the tip the bill comes and you're like, Okay, I'm
gonna tip the actual bill, which you can do, but
it's not really the right thing to do. Or you
just drink our apartment. You're taking the seat of somebody

(02:04:26):
who would have been buying booze and would have been
tipping a couple of bucks or five bucks every time
they got a drink like it or not like it.
That's generally what you do, Like Matt Coucher, there's no
there's no recovering from this. You're seeing as cheap as hell. Dude, Sorry, Bud,
what'sn't exactly Uh, let's defended, let's say, from other p
g A tour players who of course have been in
this situation, no doubt, tipping caddies winning tournaments, and this

(02:04:50):
is just wasn't There was no provision in advanced with
the filling caddy of hey, what if I win this
thing here in Mexico and it went off from there,
off the rails. That is Art Rooney. The second is
the team owner president of the Pittsburgh Steelers. He is
scheduled to meet with Antonio Brown in person. After all,
NFL Network first to report on this meeting. Of course,

(02:05:11):
this is meeting with a star receiver who has asked
to be traded. At least it's a head to head
airing the grievance. You're airing your grievances, like, what's your deal? Bro?
I just I don't Again, here's another one. I don't
know if there's recovering from once you start liking Instagram
posts to call your quarterback a racist rapist, Like, it's
a hard one to That's a genie that's hard to

(02:05:32):
put back in that bottle. Plenty to announce from the
Hall of Fame finalists lists, and other things that were
announced this past hour Springfield, Massachusetts, gonna be getting a
few guys and women into the Hall. The announcement of
that the actual Hall of Famers for comes up at
the final four April six. We know the thirteen finalists

(02:05:53):
as of now, and in fact, the Lifetime Achievement Winners
Basketball Hall of Fame Lifetime Achievement. L Harris, former coach
and also Harry Glickman, co founder of the Portland Trailblazers.
Media Awards to The New York Times, Mark Stein, and
to Ralph Lawler, who's got to be the NBA announcer
who seen more losses than anybody in the history of

(02:06:14):
the league. He's been the Clippers announcer for about forty years.
Congratulations to Ralph on the Media Award for so Del
Harris gets in or he's a finalist to get in.
He is in as a lifetime UCH Achievement winner from
the Hall. Okay, I mean good, congratulate those guys. Mark
Stein's a friend of mine. He's a cow State forwards
and guy's awesome, dude. Ralph Lawler's a total gentleman. But like,

(02:06:39):
what are we? What are we doing here? Guys? What
do we what are we doing? Like it's the Hall
of Fame. It's supposed to be the absolute best of
the absolute best. Well, what are we? What are we doing?
We're just Oh, Deela Harrison. Del harrisho not get in
as a coach? He gets in? Why is Del Harris
getting in? Are you having a problem with media awards? Baseball.

(02:06:59):
Certain he has that Vin Scully, etcetera. Those are Scully, No,
but even other broadcasters, Bob Prince, whoever else they're they're
referred to as Hall of famers because there's a broadcast wing. Yeah.
I I don't have a problem. Like it's more of
the Del Harris thing, right, Like Edie Sudden's got eight
hundred six wins. He built up all these programs. He
can't get in because he has to go into the

(02:07:19):
legit coach. And yet there's these lifetime achieving awards. They
say they make up. What did Dale Harris achieving his lifetime?
He's a nice guy. I don't get it. I have
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