LeBron Is The King & Needs To Act Like It

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It is the Doug Gottlieb Show. This is Fox Sports
Radio and uh, last night we had there's there is
something different about New York, right, there's just something up
different about the garden. I can't really explain. It has
the it's what the French call of certain geness a
qua right, it's the I don't know what. But when

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there's a big event at Madison Square Garden, and even
when there's a mid size event at Madison Square Garden.
It's made to feel bigger. It's true. If you went
to Manhattan and you asked New Yorkers to draw a
picture of the Earth or maybe of the universe, they
would have things revolving around that island of Manhattan. It's

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very true. But there is at least that perception does
have some part of reality. Things are made bigger, things
are made bigger. Um. And when Lebron came into New York,
there was the discussion which we went through yesterday, of
him taking shots at Phil Jackson, even though some of

(01:49):
his own uh decisions with his management team in terms
of who they wanted to go after for the Calves,
who he liked as and a draft prospects, some of
that gets kind of lost in the wash because Phil
Jackson isn't here to defend himself. And Phil Jackson obviously
there's a lot of negative connotation based upon how his

(02:11):
tenure went while trying to run the New York Knicks.
But ultimately there's a game to be played, and Lebron
James let a miraculous come back after some early um.
It wasn't fisticuffs, it wasn't a donny Brook. It we
was more of a kerfuffle. Ryan gets into it with
Ennis Cantor. He leads them on a furious comeback which

(02:34):
they outscored the Knicks by twenty points in the fourth
quarter to steal a road win in which they really
played disinterested basketball at times, um unenthused defense at times
in the first half, they were getting embarrassed only two
at the as fourth quarters happened in the NBA games
always tied and your best player makes plays. Lebron showed

(02:55):
why he's Lebron. So look, there's the historic nature of it.
One being New York, to be a place that once
upon a time people thought they could lure Lebron. Two
three the idea that Phil Jackson ruffled his feathers talking
about his post, which was in fact accurate, and people
wanted to put a ratio connotation to a word which
everyone knows the meaning has nothing to do with race.

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And then of course there's the idea that, look, this
is what Jordan used to do. Jordan would always kill
the Knicks. This is what Kobe would do every time
he would come into the garden, he would always kill
the Knicks. And now this is what Lebron James has
taken upon himself to do kill the Knicks, specifically in
the fourth quarter. Here's an as Cantor on Lebron. We

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fight really hard, we play with a lot of energy.
But I'll tell you one thing. This team is really special.
And you ain't coming from my house playing that a
water bottle flip came a game, you know what I mean.
I don't care who you are, King, what do you
call yourself, King, Quinn, princess, whatever you are, you know what.
We're gonna fight and and nobody out there gonna punk us.
So we just we're out there ployer game and I

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think we're just gonna get better and better every day.
And his Cantor going full w W E. I don't
know what your nickname is, but he was bringing up
the fact that last year the Knicks were playing the
water bottle flip challenge on the bench during a game
because they, like the rest of America, had completely lost
interest in the New York Knickerbockers. Intentional disrespect from Lebron,

(04:25):
somehow gets that doesn't get discussed as opposed to the
fact that, uh, dis intentional disrespect from and his cantor,
We'll get discussed here's Lebron, James connot and I want
to quod you can call yourself kings. What is it

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saying a game you can call yourself king, princess. You're
not gonna well, I'm the king, my wife is a queen,
and my daughter as the princess. So we got all
three covered. It's good, good response. When Lebron says he's
the king, it's because that actually is his nickname. Everyone
calls their wife the queen, and of course the daughter

(05:06):
being the princess, quick witted and incredibly talented. But how
is it how how is it that Lebron uh carries
no burden of the fame and of the power that
he likes to to wield. I mean, think about it,
like the calves were disinterested? Why right? That's that is

(05:29):
a snapshot of your best player. And while Lebron was
worth the price of admission, and so oftentimes he is
the fact that he cannot motivate his other elderly teammates
to bring upon themselves to perform every night like and look,
you can say, hey man, so Tuesday night, Milwaukee, it's

(05:50):
a Wednesday night. It's a Monday night in New York.
And sometimes we just don't have it. That's the job.
That's the job. So oftentimes professional add they think they
get paid simply to win championships or compete in the playoffs.
But it's not. I mean, it's look, that's what Adam still.
That's why Adam Silver lengthened the season. That's why they

(06:10):
set in place the punishment for guys skipping games and
for tanking. They've tried to adjust because because America One
is not dumb. Secondly, the TV partners Turner and ESPN,
what they didn't pay for the playoffs, the payoff is
in the volume of quality competition the regular season and

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what was a very very entertaining comeback and fourth quarter
win and Lebronics showing his utter and sheer, dominance and
confidence and swag. Um. I don't know. At some point
does this act run tired, to which to which he
is capable of taking shots at whomever he wants. His

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team sometimes plays and sometimes doesn't, and when he comes
through he be key is he is the king and
no one will challenge it. On the other hand, like, look, dude,
you're if you want to carry the burden of being
called the king, you can't simply be the king when
you want to. But it's part, it's part of the

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part of the part that everybody thinks about being president, right,
Like anybody can be president during the White House state dinners.
Anybody can be president when you have to give these
big speeches. But on a on a Tuesday, when you've
gotta make you have to have cabinet meetings all morning
and meet with senators and people from the House of

(07:39):
Representatives and then foreign dignitaries of countries which carry absolutely
no weight at all, like, ah, I don't want to
meet with Luxembourg. But you know what, this is part
of the job, man, it's part of the job. If
you can figure out a way to which once a
week you show up and you play, that'd be great.

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And just show for the playoffs, that'd be great. But
the reality of it is Turner and ESPN paid for
the rights to all eighty two of your regular season
games because you're a volume producer, right, That's why you
have value. That's why Major League Baseball players make so
much money. It's because they're playing a hundred and twenty
forty sixty games a year. That's why their their product

(08:25):
is so valuable. So like Look, I'm not saying Lebron
is the worst human being on earth. He's a great
basketball player. But the pettiness over taking shots at people
who point out some of his flaws or some of
the things that he does that rub people the wrong way,
and the idea that nobody can get in his face
and talk a little trash to him, that he is

(08:47):
beyond reproach, and this idea that this calvs. Team will
play when they want to play, and when they don't
want to play, you're just gonna have to deal with it.
It does grow a little tiresome and it gets overwhelmed
because as that fourth quarter was worth the way that
fourth quarter was Lebron James, that fourth quarter is what
separates him from the mortal man. Ramos, you said you

(09:12):
weren't gonna watch at all, right, that you had you
had soccer practice. That is correct. We're talking about the
NFL game last night, the night football. Yes, I can
not see one iota of that game music. What were
you watching when you got home last night? The NFL game?
At what point did you turn the NFL game off
and decided to start watching something else because it wasn't
very entertaining? Uh, fairly early in the third quarter, UM,

(09:39):
very early, Okay. So, and did you just like I'm
done for the night. That's it, step away from the
mic and and pay attention to your to your girlfriend.
You know what what I had? What I did was
I had what happened. What happened was I had the
split screen going with the NFL game on, and I
was actually watching the Laker game. And then once the

(10:00):
UH Panthers Dolphins game pretty much looked like it was over,
I just turned on the Laker game exclusively and checked
in on the Lebron Cavaliers thing online because I don't
have the UH it was only on MSG. Yeah, you
don't have the package. I do not, Okay, So I
actually like, look, I had never bought the NBA package
until last year, and I was I felt like I

(10:22):
was rewarded by by Like. Okay, these games are interesting
and they become super interesting. I'll give you some nuggets
on on on why a Lonzo shooting Maggic Johnson talk
about Lonzo shooting, Why a Lonzo shooting is more problematic
than other poor shooting point guards in the past. We'll
get to that. Plus UH tonight, huge night in college hoops. Um,
I'll be doing uh post game on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter,

(10:47):
and Fox Sports dot com. That'll be kind of cool.
But I'll tell you why tonight's game is getting back
to a double header in Chicago is important that upcoming. Um,
we'll get to that after half past the hour, upcoming
next Marshlayor with to join us. I didn't want to
talk NFL to start because we got stink. Stink can
give you a lot more. Um. Okay, So like, look,

(11:07):
we saw a lot of good from Cam Newton. What
do we make of the Carolina pants? Like there's seven
and three and I just can't figure out if there
are any really any good. We had a bunch of
teams like that, like the Steelers, like there's seven and two.
I can are they any good? Like who's actually really
really good and who's just good? Well? Last stink he

(11:28):
he saw them. He called the Titans game right against
the Bengals. They're six and three? Are they Are they
really good? Are they just better than the really bad teams?
It's it's kind of a it's weird this year in
the NFL. All right, we'll get to uh, three time
Super Bowl champion Stink Mark Shlareth up coming on the

(11:50):
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with the New York Giants. Maybe it's not interesting, Maybe

(13:14):
it's exactly what you thought it was like if you
if you follow some of these guys on Instagram, Snapchat
and Twitter. Um, some of the Giants are making comments,
not necessarily in support of Ben McAdoo, but clearly trying
to out their teammates who are making public the infighting
within the locker room of the New York Giants. It's

(13:36):
kind of a fascinating look. It's one of the It's honestly,
it's the best part about social media. The worst part
about social media is the trolls, right like people who
have nothing to do with anything, who just try to
antagonize people who matter. That's what That's what a troll is, right,
just trying to antagonize people who matter. Um. The unintended

(13:59):
consequences of the best part of of Twitter or social
media is that we get a chance to have a
snapshot sometimes sometimes of a filterless conversation with these athletes. Um. Obviously,

(14:19):
when they say things that we disagree with or when
people say things that we somehow get offended by, Uh,
that can be that's the downside to it. But if
you follow some of these giants, it appears that there
are there are Look, there are players who have leaked
things to the media that other players either don't agree

(14:40):
with or don't agree with the idea of sharing them
with the media. With that, let's welcome in three time
Super Bowl champion NFL. But we're working on NFL and
Fox analyst Mark Layers, I'm I'm fastened by this giants
in fighting thing, Like is it really as bad as
it's perceived or is it simply somebody doesn't like Ben

(15:00):
macadoo or a couple of somebody's don't like Ben McAdoo
and they're the ones leading in to the media, which
makes it seem like everybody doesn't like Ben McAdoo. All right,
let's welcome in stink uh stink. Following some of this
giant stuff on social media, apparently guys like Snacks have
come out and said like, hey, you know, we gotta

(15:21):
keep this stuff in the house. Is it your uh?
Do you think that the perception that the Giants are
a complete mess and in complete revolt of Ben McAdoo
is accurate or is it simply kind of the echo
chamber of of a couple of players who are disgruntled
and they've gone to the media and made it seem

(15:41):
a lot worse than it actually is. Well, I think
any time that it gets to the point where it's
out in the media, then it's legitimate. Where they're smoke,
there's fire, and now there maybe some guys that are
fine with Ben macadoo. Losing is always hard, and you know,
when you're actually winning and you're doing some of those things,
you will even you know, put up or listen to
put up with, or listen to a guy that maybe

(16:03):
you don't really care for, but at least you respect.
I talked about this with you and several other programs
here on f S one and on the radio about
just when you start talking about your quarterback not taking
care of the clock and missing a you know, a
fourth down opportunity and burning time outs and you talk
about your football team in public, that's the first thing.

(16:26):
The first indicator that people are not going to do
well with that particular head coach. You can rip me.
You can rip me in front of a team meeting.
You can, I mean absolutely splay me out. And I
know that there's a lot of great coaches that do that,
and you're fine with it behind closed doors, But to
go in front at your press conference of the media

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and talk about your quarterback not managing the clockwell enough,
those things are just unacceptable. And players that will irritate
a player like like nothing else will irritated players. So
I think there's definitely definite issues there. I don't think
there's any question about it. I'm not saying that every
guy has an issue with him, but there's certainly things

(17:09):
going on there behind the scenes that they don't bode
well for his existence within that organization for very much longer.
You saw a team this past weekend, I listen, you
call in the game the Bengals versus the Titans, marsh
Layer joining us. You can see him called games NFL
on Fox. UM and and so the Titans they win
the game, they run their record to six and three now,

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and part of it is outside of Marcus Mariota. UM,
I'm not sure how many people could name a single
defensive player on the Tennessee Titans. Maybe it's name recognition,
Maybe it's some of the uneven performances, wins and losses,
and some of that. Of course, Mariota wasn't healthy, so
that obviously is going to hurt your ability to compete.

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But I'm i'm I'm kind of at a loss with
a bunch of these teams that are right in that,
even the Panthers, who we saw last night. Let's just
start with the Titans, because when you watch a game,
call a game, you prepare unlike anybody else. Um, are
they actually are they an elite team? Or have they
just had a better than ever? Like? Have they just
been better slightly better than enough teams to have this record? Yeah?

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I think right now they're slightly better. There's a couple
of fatal flaws. They don't have an edge pass rusher,
they don't have a war daddy off the edge. They
can beat any left tackle or any right tackles. So
when you play the Tennessee Titans, you're not concerned about
going five one on ones across the board if you
need to. They've got good players, but they don't have

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what I would consider elite players, especially elite edge players.
So that's a big issue for them right now. And um,
like I said, you're just not worried when you break
a huddle. You know, the one thing that you have
to do when you play a team that has those
real legitimate rushers is you've got to have a plan
to contend for those guys, and right now Tennessee doesn't

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have that. The other thing that that is gonna make
it tough for them going forward is they legitimately have
to play five on eleven on excuse me, eleven on
eleven football on the offensive side, meaning their quarterback has
to be involved. He just has to be involved in
the running game. And what you saw in the first

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half of that game is this incredibly dynamic offense with
guys and two tight informations, guys motioning different angles, wham
blocking people getting on the edge with option using a
Dory Jackson, an outstanding young cornerback out of USC on
the offensive side of the ball, and in the first
drive of the game, Mariota fake pitches to a Dory Jackson,

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takes it up outside and gets about twenty plus thirty
yards rushing on one play, and it's a dynamic play
and they drove right down the field doing those things
and it's really exciting. And then all of a sudden
the third quarters they run the same exact play and
instead of holding it, he pitched it to a Dorri
Jackson and at that particular point in time, Adam Jones,

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the cornerback, tried to break his hip. And that's how
you stop that type of running game. It's the same
thing that they're doing in Carolina with Cam Newton, and
it's why we always look at these spread quarterbacks who
run the ball and you say it's not a sustainable
form of offense. And I tipped my cap to the
Cincinnati Bengals that said, we're gonna give up the thirteen
yard run to a Dorri Jackson on the pitch, don't

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try to surf play this because that that garbage doesn't work.
What we're gonna do is go try to knock that
quarterback out of the game. And it's brutal. And you know,
those are the things we talk about in the NFL,
and if you don't like to hear it, then plug years.
But they say, go try to knock him out of
the game and Adam Jones actually knocked himself out of
the game. He gave himself a concussion. But you saw
all of a sudden them going to this four corners,

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four minute offense with about eight minutes in the third quarter.
They're like, oh lord, we can't continue to do this
because our quarterback is gonna get massacre. And and that's
really for me, what that football team is all about.
They have to, Doug, they have to have their quarterback
involved in the running game to be dynamic as an
offense and open up their play action. And when they

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took that away, they became a very average at best,
maybe below average offense. That's that's that's fascinating. Marks Layers
joining us on the Doug Goling Show. It's interesting because
people used to do that to Russell Wilson. They used
to run, you know, some some of that zone read
stuff early in his career, and then you know, defensive
ends would just, hey, just go and crush Russell Wilson

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even after he handled the ball off, because he becomes
eligible to be pummeled even after he handles the ball off,
unlike after you throw the football. And that stops some
of that for a while, though, teams have kind of
dialed it back some. Um, the Titans are taken on
the Steelers. They're another team who they fall behind seventeen
to three to the Colts. Uh, they actually have a

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negative turnover margin on the year, only playoff team as
of now that would have a negative. And there are
another team to which you're like, I really want to
think that Pittsburgh is really good because they have the
names that I recognize, and they have the helmets and
the uniforms that I recognize. But I just I have
a tough time buying in the fact that from start
of the year struggling with the Browns to last game,

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I saw them struggling with the Colts. Why aren't they better?
More dominant? Haven't scored thirty points this year? Help me outstink.
This is a team that right now is on pace
to compete for the best record in the a f C.
And I have a tough time wondering how good they
actually are. Yeah, And it's the lack of consistency, isn't it.
I Mean, you watch them in one week, You're like, Wow,

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they look really good. They seem to play somewhat to
the level of their competition, and you know, I think
that's I think they're good enough and mature enough to
be able to do I've always hated that, but you know,
I think that's what they do. I mean, you'll see
them all of a sudden roll out to you know,
Kansas City when Kansas City is rolling and thump them.

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They've got really good defensive players. They've made the requisite
changes on the defense, going after Joe Hayden, getting him
in the fold. They have become much better. Shaser is
as long as that guy is healthy. You mean, that
dude's got rocket pack strapped to his back. He's flying
all over the place. He's making plays. So they're legit
what has been great for them off the edges of rookie,

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So they really are good. I just think that they
have this attitude of, you know what, we can show
up and we can play because that's who we are.
And they've got enough talent all over the football field
to make those things happen, you know, And I do
think it's it's pretty impressive when you can play really
poorly and then be able to flip the switch late

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and go all right, let's just run this thing back
and let's get let's get the heck out of Dodge. So, UM,
I'm with you. I would rather you go out and
just handle every opponent. But they're a team that I
think is really confident in what they have and who
they are. And I think when you know the rubber
meets the road opportunities, you'll see them show up and

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show up in a big way against the really good opponents.
All right, So help me out with Carolina. I don't
think the Dolphins are a great opponent, but they they
throttled them. Now they have the week off, then they
get the Jets on the road before their schedule cranks up.
What's your opinion of the Carolina Panthers today, Well, Mike,
I think defensively, last year, you know, they made all

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those changes. They got ready Josh Norman, they had a
bunch of young defensive backs. I think they're maturing. UM.
As long as Thomas and Keith Lee stay healthy, I
think they're a really good team UM on the defensive
side of the ball. And then it comes down to
Cam Newton. It comes down to the maturity of Cam Newton.
It comes down to the balance of that offense and
keeping enough run and keeping enough of the things in

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the quarterback the designed to be run. When you have
that that, it opens up not only the running backs,
but it opens up your offense. It opens up probably
anytime you have all that read zone run stuff. There's
a bunch of one uh one route or one receiver
throws that you're making. So you basically are showing that run,

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your sucking safeties up, your sucking linebackers up, and you've
got one read in your progression. And so it becomes
you know, eight eight to nine, I mean automatic completions
a game, and it just makes it really tough. But
the issue being is, like I said, it's a it's
an unsustainable form of offense. And can you make a

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run with your quarterback putting him in harm's way on
a consistent basis like that um and survive? And that's
the dangerous game you play with that particular style of offense.
But I think it's the only style of offense that
Cam will thrive in because I just don't think that
he is a good enough pocket passer to have him
drop back thirty times a game and win a game

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for you. That way, he can throw it thirty times
a game as long as you've got enough play action
enough quarterback designed run and all the things that I
talked about with the eight to tend completions a game
with the one read routes, and and then he's really
he's outstanding in that stuff, in that formal offense. Man,
he's one of the best players in this game. But again,

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you have to be willing to put him in harm's way,
and and that's what scares teams about, you know, about
having that style of quarterback. Three times Super Bowl champion
Mark Slayers joining us in the Doug Gotlib Show. You're
an outstanding offensive lineman. You're with two of the best
offensive line groups, the Hogs of course, the Denver Broncos.
In your ability to produce thousand yard rusher after a
thousand yard rusher after a thousand yard rusher while protecting UH,

(26:32):
the great John Elway. UH is gonna go down in history.
There's two of the best offensive line groups. The Cowboys
are in that discussion. On the other hand, this past weekend,
they don't have Tyrn Smith, arguably their best player, one
of the most athletic players at the left tackle position
we've seen. Chaz Green replaces him and it was a disaster.
I guess my question is to take us to what

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the reality is. How much of that is on Chaz Green,
how much of it is on doc how much of
it is on the play calling in terms of the
fact that they struggled all night long because one guy
wasn't capable of blocking the guy across room. Yeah, I
mean I listen all of that, All those things are true,
and everybody's got a certain amount of of blame there.

(27:17):
But I look at a coaching staff, like, is it
the kid's fault that he can't block Adrian Clayborne? Or
is it the coach's fault for not not understanding that? Like,
at what point did you think he was gonna all
of a sudden learn how to block the guy? Was
it after the second stack or the third sack, or
the fourth stack, or the fifth sack or the sixth stack?

(27:38):
Apparently I'm like, maybe I was thinking this as as
that game was going down. I was actually in Nashville's
airport watching that the blockle and I started thinking to myself,
is Tyrone Smith the m v P of the National
Football League? Because apparently their coaching staff only knows how
to block their left tackle one on one. They don't
have a slide. They don't have a chip put section,

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they don't have a tight end protection. You know, they
don't get multiple guys over there, pull a guy in
a waggle pass and have a guard over their predicatives
outside edge. Apparently they just leave their tackle, their left tackle,
one on one the entire game and they don't ever
adjust in My fault was like, really, I mean, is
that his fault or is that your fault for being

(28:20):
stupid coaches and not actually getting him the help that
he needs. And you know, I mean, it would be
like saying, hey, hey, Dougie, you know you're an outstanding
point guard in your days of college basketball, but guess
what today, We're gonna have you play center against Patrick
Ewing just because you know, we think we like that matchup.

(28:41):
And then you get thumped inside and they're like, wow,
Doug gotta leave. He really sucks. Yeah, you do at center,
you know what I mean. It's just like, at some
point you gotta help a guy, right you do. That's
That's what I was saying when I was watching. But
you know a lot more about it. So I'm I'm
glad that that your opinion locks in with money A
great job calling the game. It was an outstanding watch.

(29:02):
I um, you know there's a lot of games being called.
You guys were just on all over it. The Bengals
Titans game. Who do you got this weekend? This weekend?
I'm Tampa at Miami this weekend, Tampa at Miami, Miami
on a short week and Tampa, of course you need
to win. There's talk of John Gruden taking over there.
We'll get to later on the show. In the meantime,
staying great stuff, safe travels, and thanks for joining us.

(29:26):
All right, that's Mark Slayer at that NFL discussion. Brought
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I actually have the perfect metaphor for what happened to
Chaz Green. It took me a while to develop it,
but I think you'll you, being a guy who knows

(29:48):
so much about college hoops, follows it. I want to
talk a little college hoops tonight while it's important, But
there there's a perfect college basketball metaphor. I think it's
a metaphor, uh that that I'm like, what's what's going on?
What else is going on? I can tell you this
age and Claiborne got a seven fifty thousand dollar bonus
for all of those sacs that he had. That was
reported by the NFL network on a Yeah, that isn't

(30:10):
then how the NFL should work, though, Yeah, isn't like, like,
let's just be honest. If NFL players like, hey, we
should get guaranteed money, Like you know what, if we're
gonna change this whole thing on how we pay guys,
why don't we pay massed about how they play? That
would be so it would be incredible. I know that
Ricky Williams didn't negotiate the best contract, but for years,
that's all people wanted was guys to play for incentive

(30:33):
later in deals. And then when he finally signed that
deal with the Saints, everybody's like, what are you doing?
You're crazy when yes, that was a long time ago
but still apropos today. But yeah, reached to the eight
sack bonus with those six on Sunday Cowboys. By the way,
now I have to deal with the Philadelphia Eagles coming
up on Sunday night. That should be a dandy Cowboys owner.
Jerry Jones made his weekly hit on care l D

(30:54):
in Dallas today and the topic was brought up about
NFL owners possibly having the power to remove Joe Owns
as the Cowboys owner. I've had not one inkling of
communication from the league office or any owner that would
suggist something that laughable, ridiculous, And that's about where that is. Yeah,

(31:14):
Jerry Jones saying he's going to stick as the Cowboys owner.
Why not Cowboys again? As I mentioned, have the Eagles
coming up on Sunday night. Tonight, Boston Celtics have the
Brooklyn net Skyrie Irving is gonna play this spite facial fracture,
Gonna wear a mask in that game, returning to the
Celtics lineup as we speak, Doug. The three U c
l A basketball players that were charged with shoplifting and
China are coming back to the United States back twelve.

(31:35):
Commissioner Larry Scott's is the matter has been resolved to
the satisfaction of Chinese authorities. So le Angelo Ball, Cody Riley,
and Jalen Hill are expected to land in southern California
about five o'clock local time tonight. Is Donald Trump gonna
champion this one like he freed the Iran hostages? For sure?
For sure? I can just can you just see like
Trump and LaVar walking out like hand in hand, right

(31:59):
and like uh, like Trump wearing like a big Baller
brand sneakers. That would just be amazing. Make America great again.
Hats over and he's wearing a Big Baller brand buys
buys the rights to make America great. That'd be amazing.
And that's Dan Buyer with what with what's going on? Hey, um,
here's the perfect parallel to what to what Mark schla

(32:23):
was talking about. What he's saying, Hey, Chaz Green, we
only play one way and that's the way we play.
And you're gonna, you know, man on man and you're gonna,
you know, block Adrian Clayborne across from you. That reminds
me of Greg Paulis. Greg Polish, remember, was an All
American high school quarterback. He actually end up after his
due career playing uh playing football at Syracuse. Greg Paulis,

(32:47):
by the way, now is an interim assistant coach at Louisville.
After that that staff turned over. He was part of
the Ohio State staff that was fired with fat motto.
But if you remember, Greg Paulis is a point guard
to Duke, and Duke had got into this thing to
where they only played defense one way. They came out
and they pressured you at mid court. They they just

(33:08):
got up into you and he can't do that. And
Greg Paulis was a good player like he was, and offensively,
everything they were doing at the time was set a
highball screen that point guard would come off, turned to corner,
get in the lane, drive it or shoot at three,
or kick it out for for a jump shot. Right.
That was That was how they were playing. After Jay

(33:30):
Williams and Chris Duhan and here comes Greg Police and
that's not That's not how he played. What's interesting was
Duke eventually adjusted when they had John Shire as Nolan
Smith is your point guards, and they didn't play the
same way defensively. They played much more kind of conservative defense.
But in putting Greg Paulis in position to where you're like, hey,

(33:51):
go out and pressure, like, dude, Greg Paulie can't steve
what would you how he used to do that when
we played against him the instate Germany, come out of
they pressure like three quarter of corg. What are you doing?
I'm gonna go buy you You're not athletic enough to
do that. Speaking of Duke, Duke will take on Michigan
State tonight. Also Kentucky Kansas, giving my thoughts on the
one player who you need to be paying attention to.

(34:13):
And one are the chances that Alabama, remember the rankings
come out tonight, Not that they matter, but they do
kind of start to matter. Now, what are the chances
that Alabama is the top ranked team in the country
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Fox Sports Rade It's funny Uh little p P Bumper music, guys.
I Uh, traffic wasn't terrible getting home, So I went

(34:57):
and popped into my old high school's practice. Man, that
is a as a shot back in time. I'm just
sitting there going watching kids walk around China holler girls
going in and watching practice. Man, that is as a music.
When was the last time you're back in your high school?
It's been a few years probably since you left high school.
I know it's only been a few years. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

(35:19):
So when I graduated um in two thousand. Seriously, what
years you graduated high school? I graduate two ten. It's crazy.
I mean, like I joke around, I joke around Ramos
about him being basically in Amba, right, but he graduated
high school in two thousand ten, so he is basically

(35:40):
in Amba. He's a young in Ramos. How about you,
We graduated high school at the same time. Uh, when
was the last time you went back? My ten year
class reunion? You actually went to the high school itself. Yeah,
I was at the high school in the gymnasium. The
guys ready to go all out. They wanted to go

(36:01):
to like the you know, some big hotel, but I said,
why not the gym. You're always a big spend around
must That's that's you. Let's get to a game. This
is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Fire. What
was the name of your actual high school? Meryll High School?
Same as the town Meryll and Meryll, Wisconsin. Yes, last

(36:25):
time you step foot on Meryll High School's campus. I
think it was the day I graduated. I think that
was the last time, to be honest, I really think
that it is. And now the old high schools, the
middle school, you know all those things. Go. Yeah, yeah,
what are the chances I'll be back soon? Um? Probably
pretty good. It's actually uh twenty five years next year

(36:46):
that I lettered in high school football and they have
a big ceremony for the year anniversary of that, so
I may have to go back. What position did you play?
Defensive back and uh split end, wide receiver at that time? Yes,
a long time ago. Oh why are you laughing? Doug?
Why are you left? You can't keep things to yourself.

(37:07):
What's the matter, Doug. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good.
But I do have a good smile that phase. No,
I'm not. I'm good. I'm good. How about this the
game today? Oh yeah, what are the chances? Okay, what
are the chances that my vertical was over thirty. I
actually think probably pretty good. Like I'm guessing you're a

(37:31):
much better You're you're a good athlete. I'm gonna say
you're right. It was thirty one and a half. So
I just couldn't, you know, could dunk small basketballs. But
I was a two ft jumper. Yeah, I can't, couldn't
do the one was a two foot So all right,
let's get to the actual game. Okay, what are the
chances I average per game? No, I'm just kidding. What

(37:52):
are the chances Doug that Alabama isn't number one when
the new college football playoff rankings are revealed tonight? There
were number two last week, of course, Georgia's number, and
they won at Mississippi State, although part of that was
Dan Mullen chose to allow his testicles to retract into
his stomach and not go for it on fourth and three. Uh,
Notre Dame. The number three team lost obviously to Miami,

(38:15):
and the number four team lost as well. Um one, sorry,
number one, number three three loss, but Clemson didn't play.
I'm gonna say chance. Yeah, I think it's a lot
of people are saying maybe Miami would have a chance
because they're also undefeated Ny beat Notre Dame. But I'm

(38:36):
gonna say chance, Okay, Doug, What are the chances in
the NFL that owners really want Jerry Jones out as
the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Yesterday there was that
Ceason Assist letter about him trying to sue the NFL.
Jerry Jones said that it's laughable if the owners would
try to force him out. What are the chances that
the owners really don't want Jerry Jones as the owner

(38:57):
of the five five percent? This is just, hey, we're
we're putting you in check. I think I just think
that all that move was putting him in check. Five
percent chance they really want him out? What are the
chances Doug that Saints quarterback Drew Brees is in a
Scenes uniform? Inen? I remember Breezes in the last year
of his contract sold our Fox Sports radio affiliate Extra

(39:18):
thirteen sixty in San Diego this morning that they're going
to deal with the contract stuff in the off season,
but that he'll always remain in New Orleans. What are
the chances he's in the Saints uniform next year? UM?
Five eighty seven percent? Chance? Like, look, he's probably going
to be there. The big challenge for Drew Brees is
are you going to do what what Tom Brady has

(39:38):
been willing to do? Last time he bled them for
everything they were with their worth. But now as he's
he's still important, but maybe not the most important part
of this team. And he's lived where he made a
big salary but didn't have a defense around him. Um,
I think they're gonna ask him to take a pay cut,
I really do. I think they're gonna ask him to
have a Tom Brady type of contract, And I'm not

(40:00):
or that he doesn't. And you know he is big
in San Diego. It's not all the ram and possibility
that he moves teams and goes to a team like
the Chargers, the organization that he originally left, or there's
other plenty of other teams that would like to have him.
Drew Brees is not against moving le Angelo Ball at
his two U c l A teammates on their way
back to the United States. Now, So, Doug, what are

(40:20):
the chances that le Angelo Ball gets heckled more at
a posing Arenas about shoplifting than he does about big
Ball or brand So more shoplifting seventy percent chance? I
think that the shoplifting, there'll be some creative stuff. I
think you'll see because supposedly sunglasses was the one that
that really got him gott of caught, even though they
were multiple stores that they were either trying to or

(40:42):
worse dealing stuff from. UM. I would say there will
be a there'll be a healthy amount of heckling on both,
but mostly on shoplifting. This is game time on The
Duck Godlap Show. All I want to get you ready
for tonight's college basketball games simply because though we don't

(41:03):
pay attention a ton to college basketball on national radio shows,
tonight is night to which it's really kind of in
prime time. There's four teams would paying attention to, plus
Cam Newton. What do we make of their record of
his performance last night? I'll tell you next on The
Doug Gotlip Show. What Up Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports
Radio Live and Direct from the City of Angels. A

(41:27):
lot to get to tonight, A lot to get to,
including including Cam Newton in mere moments tonight, the world
will meet um, the player many in basketball believe is
the next one who like Who's Got Next? Who's Got Next?
Is very much a basketball expression. You guys are familiar

(41:47):
with that, right. Who's got next and who's gotten next
comes from how they how they used to do it
at parks like we have. We have watered down everything
right from adding to any teams in baseball to the playoffs, UH,
to having inter league games in every different series because
there's every different week, because there's fifteen and fifteen, so

(42:10):
there has to be in the league series. We've watered
that thing down. We've watered down we'll water down the
college football playoff from one game, winner take all to
now four teams eventually be eight, and then it'll be
more college basketball from sixty four to sixty five to
sixty eight. Uh. Division one used to be special. Now
it's three D and fifty one Division one teams. College

(42:31):
football used to be you know in the seventies. Now
it's a hundred and twenty eight Division one teams. So
with all that inn we watered down a lot of things.
But but the the greatest um the thing that we've
watered down is pick up basketball. It used to be
the first ten would play and then whoever the eleventh

(42:54):
guy you called next game? Now calling next game. At
least where I came from and in New York City
and in other parts of the East Coast. I came
from from the West Coast. My dad was from the
East Coast. He take me to Miles Square Park and
then we apply play West Fourth Street, New York when
we go back and visit uh during the summer. Who's

(43:15):
Got Next is you could call next game and not
have anybody with you, and then as long as those
guys were on the court before the next game began,
they could hop out of cabs right before your game started,
ready to go. So Who's Got Next is a basketball expression.
Pick up basketball game is done, or you walk up
on a court and there's two or three stragglers shooting

(43:37):
around while the game is going up and down, and
you yell out you know, Who's gotten next? And somebody's like,
I got next? Can I run? I got my five? Dude,
all right, I got after you. That's how it rolls. Ramos,
I know was and Dan Buyer, but this is how
Dan Buyer grew up in Wisconsin, very tough, tough side
of the tracks. He grew up in where you sometimes

(43:59):
would have to fight for your game when you would
call game. That's that's fairly accurate. Yes, yeah, absolutely, yeah,
I mean you had you had to be tough. Marvin
Bagley has next. Now. Look, he's the he was playing
at Sierra Canyon, which where we broadcast from. It's twenty
minutes minutes from where we broadcast from in Sherman Oaks, California. Um,

(44:24):
Sierra Canyon. He's left handed, he can handle the basketball,
he can post up, he can you know, I don't
know if you would go lamar odom or. He's not
Ben Simmons. He's more of a score, but he is.
And he could have gone back to high school for
another year, but he is not of high school age.
He's of college freshman age. Marvin Bagley is by all

(44:47):
accounts a real deal. And tonight, for whatever reason, you
can see a guy in McDonald's All American Game, you
see a guy in video when you see him wearing
a duke uniform and like, oh, well that's who that is. Yeah,
that's who that is good enough to have been the
number one pick this past year. He'll be the number
one pick this year. And had he stayed in high school,
he'd be and then went to play college would be

(45:08):
the number one pick the following year that good. That good,
and and what's interesting about it is, um, some people
in l A are freaking out about a Lonzo Ball
not being able to shoot others. I heard Colin counter
Ruler to earlier say, how it's not that big a deal,

(45:29):
not that big a deal. He'll develop his jump shot
and make more shots. And by the way, he's a
past first guy. Later on in the hour, I'll play
for you what Colin said, and I'll explain while it's
why it's different for Alonzo, why it is important for
a Lonzo ball to fix his jump shot and fix
fankully his finishing shots even more so than other uh

(45:52):
point guards who don't shoot it all that well, who
are great pastors? All right, more on that to come.
Cam Newton's a really hard when me, he's a really
hard Uh, he's a hard one to explain. This is
the Doug Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. If you miss
Mark Schlayreth, you can download the podcast if you you

(46:13):
want to catch up. Robert Covington of the Philadelphia seventies
six is just checked in. He'll join us the top
of next hour. Can't get that if you're listening on
serious sex m you can't get that. On your I
Heart app. You can't get that on an R terrestrial
radio stations, and you can't get that on the podcast.
So Robert Covington's six Ers beat the Clippers last night,
play the Lakers tomorrow night. We'll ask him about he's

(46:33):
been around trusting the process before anybody else trusted the process.
We'll ask him about it. Cam Newton is a hard
one because what happens is when he plays poorly, it
allows for the confirmation bias of c. Cam Newton's not
any good. When he plays well, it allows people say, look,

(46:55):
you're all haters. You don't like him because of what
he said to the female reporter. You don't Cam because
he wouldn't answer your questions to the Super Bowl. You
just don't like Cam Newton. I think context is everything.
Is Cam Newton a great quarterback and elite quarterback? No?
Is he a terrible quarterback? No? Cam Newton is, and

(47:20):
I we get this all the time. He's inconsistent, No,
he's not. He's consistently inconsistent is what he is. Like.
You have to contextualize he has in some of the
attributes for what should be not just a great quarterback,
but an all time great quarterback. Right like John Elway

(47:42):
had a great arm. Cam Newton his arm might be better.
John Elway was really athletic. Cam Newton might be more athletic.
John Elway was big. Cam Newton might be bigger. But
you would never put John Elway and Cam Newton in
the same sentence because there's this erratic nature to many
of his throws. There's this inability to be a more

(48:05):
of a pure pocket passer, which puts him in harm's way,
which causes him to seemingly always get hurt or hit
really hard. Combine that, combined the inaccuracy at times, the
decision making that's flawed at times, with a propensity to
get hit and hit hard and occasionally hurt, and Kim

(48:25):
Newton is not inconsistent. When when when we have five
years at least of data to show that you're a
below six passer, we have five years at least of
data to show that some games are good, in some
games you're not. Sometimes you're accurate and sometimes you're not.
That inconsistency, when it plays out over a long period

(48:46):
of time, is actually a consistency. But it's important to
say that while I'm calling him consistently inconsistent. I'm not
calling him terrible, like you do. See the difference there, right,
if I said mediocre. If I said mediocre, Ryan Music,
producer of the Doug Otlip Show, without looking, If I

(49:08):
said mediocre, do you think that has a positive or
negative connotation? I think people take it as negative. But really,
to me, mediocre just means average, like right dead average
every day in the middle ramas, what do you think? Yeah,
I agree, mediocre means like not great, but not bad,

(49:29):
just kind of plain old Jane. Yeah. But see the
problem is you guys are smart. I don't think everybody
is as smart as you guys, but I think I
thank you. I think that's the problem, and it leads
into exactly what you're saying, right, Like, if you don't
claim Cam Newton to be this amazing quarterback, if you're
just trying to call it how you see it, like, hey,
he's average. People want to construe that into like, well,

(49:52):
you're just being disrespectful. You don't you're not willing to
give him the just do that he deserves being a
former m v P and going to a super Bowl,
Like people always want to take it that next step
and you're just like, no, I just really don't think
he's as good as everyone says he is. Well, I
don't know if everyone says he is. I just it's
that that's what happened, This is what happens. This will

(50:13):
happen in college basketball. So what we're doing tonight on
Fox sports dot Com is a digital show, okay, And
in it, I'll do my top ten rankings and people
will flip out because there'll be a team or two
that aren't in there. You're like, what do you mean
we're not in the top ten? Like, well, you know,
if I have you ranked twelve out of three one teams,
you're actually an exceptional team. I just I only have

(50:36):
ten spots, right. But so, so my point in that is, um,
there's a Division one quarterbacks. He was taking number one. Overall,
there's thirty starting quarterback thirty two starting quarterbacks in the
entire world. Correct, thirty two starting quarterbacks. There's thirty two
starting quarterbacks. I do not believe him to be a

(50:57):
top five or top ten quarterback in the world. I
believe him to be somewhere in the UH fifteen to
eighteen range, maybe at his peak as high as twelve,
but probably as low as as low as twenty, but
somewhere right there in mediocre, ordinary, average, middling, middle door.
It all takes context, though, Right there's thirty two people

(51:20):
on earth that are starting quarterbacks, so you're already in
an exceptional class. Now, of that exceptional class, he's average,
He's middle of the road. He's inconsistent consistently, which doesn't
allow him to be viewed in nearly as loving a

(51:40):
fashion as an Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady and Drew Brees,
even a Matt Ryan or or some other quarterbacks. And
you can slide Matt Ryan into the mediocre at times
division as well. The point is that context is everything everything,
And so when you say I think he's mediocre, one,

(52:02):
I don't think people actually know what the word mediocre means.
They take mediocre to have a negative connotation when it's
not necessarily positive. It's not necessarily negative. And if when
you call him a mediocre starting quarterback in the NFL,
you have to start with the premise that to be
a starting quarterback in the NFL, you have to be exceptional,
that all exceptional. They may not feel like ja color
may not feel exceptional. He may be a bottom five quarterback,

(52:23):
starting quarterback right now in the NFL, in spite of
his armed talent. Uh. But he would kill to be
called a mediocre quarterback. But he's still one of the
only one of the thirty two men on Earth who
gets to say hud hut hike uh in the first
quarter for his team. So is that I just I

(52:44):
want to be fair and contextualize the Cam Newton thing.
I don't think he's great. I'm not even sure if
he's I don't think he's very good. He can be
very good at times, he can be very poor at times.
He's right there in the middle, a guy who he
he has way more talent than Matt Ryan, if you

(53:05):
call talent throwing a football and running with a football.
He can do some things Matt Ryan simply can't do.
But because there is such wild inconsistencies with his accuracy,
with his ability to read a defense, it will forever
limit his ability for that god given talent and that
honed talent from hard work to come out. When they

(53:25):
lost to the Saints, he didn't have a touchdown, he
had three interceptions. When they lost to the Eagles, he
had one touchdown, three interceptions. They lost to the Bears,
no touchdowns, two interceptions, one fumble loss. Remember they when
they beat the Bills three He had no touchdowns, no interceptions.
This is a really good defensive team. He's their best
running back. He can throw the football. He's fine. The

(53:50):
idea that he's gonna soul, he's gonna single handedly win
you a super bolt. No, he could lose it for you.
He's shown that he can get there, but he needs
a ton of help. He is the epitome. He doesn't
look like it because he's six ft seven freak athlete
who can throw the football really really hard and at
times accurately deep down the field, but at times inaccurate.

(54:11):
And that athleticism doesn't benefit you nearly as much at
that position based upon how they can hit you and
how strong and fast everybody else is. Right up next,
we'll go to the stay in the NFC South. I
declared the Saints dead. Little did I know that they
were mostly dead. Back from the Dead of the Saints,

(54:33):
Michael Thomas, one of the young stars at wide receiver,
will join us. Did he think it was over when
they were owing two? We'll discuss next on the Doug
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buying experience. Doug Olive Show, Fox Sports Radio. The Saints
have a reputation, and reputations are earned, not given in
the National Football League, And and so what's the reputation, right?
The reputation is, um, they're better at home. They are
on the road right there, built for the dome. They
throw it a ton and they got to turn it

(55:15):
to turn you over in order to stop. Because their
defense isn't pretty good, isn't very good. Nothing could be
further from the truth. If you actually watch this Saints
team play in comparison to the previous five Saints teams,
the defense is actually really good. The running game is
the kind of secret sauce behind their offense. And they

(55:37):
just went into Buffalo. Granted it was not full Buffalo.
It wasn't blowing snow sideways in the middle of December
where everyone had to, you know, imbibe as much beer
as possible just to warm up internally to watch a game,
Bills Mafia sending out video after video no, no, but
they went into Buffalo and hammered the Bills and the

(55:58):
guy who was who was the beneficiary of nine receptions
and at his first hundred yard receiving games, quietly becoming
one of the top young wide receivers in the game.
Michael Thomas of the resurgent New Orleans Saints John's is
on the Doug Gotlip Show. How are you. I'm doing great.
Appreciate you guys having me on you were you were
owing to people like myself left you guys for dead.

(56:21):
There was some dysfunction with a d wanting more touches,
and there's thoughts of here we go again, another disappointing
year in New Orleans. Was there a team meeting? Was
there something said what led to this dramatic turnaround in NOLA? Um?
You know we didn't get off to start we had expected. Um,
but we know that throughout the course of the season NFL,

(56:45):
you know you're gonna be You're gonna face some type
of adversity, you know, But it's all about climbing out
of that and stacking the winds. And I feel like
once we got on a row once we started stacking
up the winds from after that, I went to start.
I think the guys are starting like the selling up
winning games around here, and um, realizing that we have
the tools to do that and win a lot of
games here. So so like we just the momentum hit

(57:08):
and we just kept building it. Look, you guys are
running the ball, You're throwing short efficient passes, You're turning
up clocks on drives. Like this is a very Unsaints
like style of offense. Uh, take me through the evolution.
Was this was this the thought? Was this the kind
of game plan coming into the season, that this is
what it would look like? Or was there a change
in the play calling after the early struggles. Um, we're

(57:31):
just simply doing we have to do to win games
and um close out games. Last year we're in a
lot of close games you know that could have went
either way. We finished a couple of them, we didn't
finish a couple of them. And now this year, you know,
we want to take advantage of those situations and and
try to try to not be in those situations where
we have a close game anymore. So we're managing the game. Ultimately,
we're just doing our job, and guys are doing their

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job when the numbers called and making the plays when
they have the opportunity or when they present themselves. It
feels like Sean Payton is finding easy to create mismatches.
You know, there's there's times I've I've seen linebackers covering you.
I've seen him move you all over. Um, what's what's
the sense you get of how he's been able to
kind of create different openings for you, uh, to to

(58:13):
get you more opportunities than you had previously been getting. Um,
you know, I appreciate him and haven't trusted me to
be able to move me around. Um. We have a
lot of talent on the offensive side of the ball.
I feel like guys that can make plays at any
point in the game, and just you know, when your
numbers call it, you have to you have to make
that play. You know. Coach Bayden is a genius when

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it comes to you know, calling up calling plays and
you know, um moving the ball on offense. So if
if he calls the play and that and Drew reads
it in the huddle, you and it's your play. You
have to kind of rise to the occasion and take
advantage of the opportunity when it presents itself, And that's
up to me what I'm doing Michael Thomas, who if
you read the New Orleans Advocate that the headline is accurate,

(58:57):
quietly turning into the one of the NFL's best receiving
seasons after his first one yard game. Um, what about you?
I mean, like, look, kind of the untold tale professional
athletes is confidence, right, Like, You're not gonna be able
to accomplish anything unless you believe in yourself. But it
doesn't it doesn't feel like you've gotten arrogant or your
teammates have gotten arrogant with your success. How do you

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maintain the balance of having confidence and not having arrogance? Um?
You know, when you've been doing it for a long
time and you've been you, you you stay it's all
about consistent and staying consistent. How consistent can you be?
And then once you reach a certain level, how do
you top that? How do you match that? How do
you take it to another level? You know? How can

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you create big plays with the opportunities to get it? And? Um,
that's does to me what I've been doing just trying
to say as consistent as possible, would always add something
else to my game. Always take it a step further,
always do something someone might have not seen me do
yet or unexpected. But ultimately, I've been I've been making
those type of I've been making plays. You know, in practice,

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it all starts during a week preparation, and then on
Sundays you only have a handful of plays that get called.
So when I get called, you wanna you want to
be able to make those plays and make it feel
just like that practice ultimately, so that's what I've been doing.
I've just been, uh, I grind it out and during
the week, and then I tried to when the plays
called on Sundays, I try to make the most out

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of it on a big stage. Yeah, well it's Look,
it's been obvious to anybody who's been paying attention, which
maybe most interesting is you guys got up to a
slugger start. Carolina had lost those couple of games in
a row. They're back at seven and three. Atlanta kind
of got off to an uneven start there at five
and four. Like we all thought the division would be
really good. Tampa's the only team that has not turned
in the performances that I think people thought. Of course,

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I know you you guys, just you guys got done
thumping them, going back to last week at the Dome. UM,
but it's weird because we all had great expectations of
the NFC South then because maybe if you're starting some
in Carolina start we lessen those and now you turn around,
look and you've got three legitimate playoff contender teams. UM,
give me your since you watched Carolina last night, you

(01:01:02):
watched Atlanta last night, to feel to you like kind
of like you guys have figured out what you have
to win games. They've done the same. UM. I feel
like and I felt like this since I got drafted
by Saints and playing this league last year and playing
in our division, our division has to be the top
division in NFL. If you look at it across the board,

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it's a lot of talent, it's a lot of youth
that's playing at a high level, and I feel like
there's a lot of hungry players. So I feel like
our our division definitely keeps us honest, and UM, we
like that because then when we go against other teams
and outside of our lake, we kind of, you know,
we kind of find out, you know, how these other
guys are playing and how their leagues. But it's fun

(01:01:44):
playing in our league. It keeps us I feel like,
like I said, I feel like it keeps us honest
and I feel like we're where um we I'm I
love playing. I don't really care about, you know, the
other teams as much. I can't really speak on them.
My fee like we have. We have to be a
playoffs team and make a run for the Super Bowl.
Alvin Kamarrow having just a great rookie season. People. I mean,

(01:02:07):
the great thing about fantasy football is I think people
know about the forty two catches Um, the four seventeen
yards rushing and the fact that he's you know, combined
six six touchdowns. Is just a rookie. Um, he's drafted,
he shows up at camp. Did you know that he
had this type of product productivity in him? Oh yeah,
for sure. Um, I don't want to sound like a

(01:02:28):
guy that you know, because a lot of people probably
are now just jumping on the bandwagon. But you know,
we were in New Orleans, you know, training camp where
it was you know, some type of conditions where a
lot of people won't make it out of it was
it was kind of hard. Coach emphasized that you know,
he he might say blue and it might be read
like he was gonna go hard, he was gonna challenge us,
And I'm Kamar. He was still making play out to

(01:02:51):
play out the play every day. So I'm excited for
him and I'm excited for him to get what he deserves.
And I feel like he has a bright future for sure.
But he's definitely a play make. He's definitely hungry. Um
He's not a guy that he hasn't complained about touches.
He just when he's another guy that just um leads
by example and kind of just does his job when

(01:03:12):
his numbers called, and he does it really well. So
he also helps me. He motivates me because like he
may not be getting the ball a bunch, but he's
making the most out of it and making plays. And
then I feel like that kind of helps this team
like move and um At it just challenges everyone to
just do your job. Yeah yeah, and that's that obviously,
And I know you guys have that up in your

(01:03:32):
facility to do your job. Munch or Hey listen, we've
been paying attention every I think everybody has. Saints have
turned this thing around. You're a big, big part of
the reason why. Thanks so much for spending some time
this year on Fox Sports Radio. Yes, sir, thank you
guys for having me. Pleasure is absolutely ours. Look, I've
I've owned it right guys, Like I was, like, man,
they're not very good. They don't know what they're doing,

(01:03:54):
and I do. I don't think there's coding, Like I
didn't think it'd be fair to ask him, Like, but
when he says he's not complaining about not getting the ball,
and we did see Adrian Peterson complaining about not getting
the ball right and he was Adrian Peterson running back.
And they've played better, much better since not having Adrian Peterson. Hey, look, dude,

(01:04:15):
we're gonna do more ball control or throwing shorter passes.
We're using both running backs. Everybody's gonna get a little bit,
maybe nobody gets a lot bit, and it it has
in fact work. But the fact that everybody's pulling the
same direction, it's impossible to not correlate the departure of
Adrian Peterson with the success of the Saints offense. Addition

(01:04:36):
by subtraction, let's go addition by the addition and bringing
Dan Buyer Dan when he got for us, we got
some news from the National Football League. Saints quarterback Drew
Brees telling Fox Sports radio affiliate Extra thirteen sixty in
San Diego today that he intends to remain in New
Orleans after the season. May seem like a no brainer,
but Breeze's in the last year of his contract. He

(01:04:56):
added that he has a bet approached about a new deal.
Says he's right now and the presence in the present
that is in these sides would revisit the topic. In
the off season. Minnesota Vikings have quite a showed out
with the Rams coming up on Sunday, and now there's
an interesting twist. The Vikings asked Fox Sports and the
NFL to not have current Panthers tendant Greg Olson broadcast
their games Sunday. This according to the NFL network. Now,

(01:05:19):
Olsen is going to be in the booth with Kevin
Burkhart and Charles Davis for the call, as the Panthers
have a buy. Olsen, coming back off of injury, is
going to be in the booth with those guys, and
the Vikings had asked for him to be removed. However,
that's not going to be the case. Should be noted
Olsen won't take part in the production meetings with the
Vikings or the Rams. Vikings and Panthers will play in

(01:05:39):
a couple of weeks. One of the reasons why the
Vikings opposed that move. Speaking of the Panthers wide receiver
Curtis Samuel, who miss the rest of the season because
of an ankle injury suffered last night against Miami, the
three U c l A Basketball players that were charged
with shoplifting in China. That's lo Angelo Ball, Cody Riley
and Jalen Hill. They're on their way back to the
United States, should land around five o'clock local time. PACKEDWEF

(01:06:00):
Commissioner Larry Scott says the matter has been resolved to
the satisfaction of Chinese authorities, and the Boston Herald is
saying John Carlos Stanton would not wave his no trade
clause to go to Boston or the Saint Louis Cardinals, Right,
That's what I think. That's the sense that I get.
I so can see him in an Angel's uniform in
and Angels UNI, yes, yes, not a Dodgers uniform. D

(01:06:25):
they at some point And isn't that the m O
And wouldn't that be the Angels M O to bring
in a guy like Snap Stanton. Why do you kill
my Angels? Why you? Why do you? I didn't kill
him in Hall. I just said, what Albert pool Hole.
I think they'll still be paying Alberto. I think that's
kind of the problem as well. I always thought it
was that the Dodgers seemed to make more I means

(01:06:45):
an l a guy at Dodger more in l a team,
and they've been willing to take on a ton of payroll,
as have the Angels. Angel in some arms man, but
you look, you put Trout out there with John Carlos Stanton.
I just don't know what would they trade and return?
Like would what do the Angels give? I don't know
the problem, yeah, and I don't know if it's right now.
I just think five years down the line, it just

(01:07:06):
seems like such in Angels, it seems like a match
made in heaven. If we want to put the Angels
twist on it, the problem in five years. Maybe the
problem for the Angels is like they just have a
talent issue and they're they're they've been decimated by by
bad trades, bad acquisitions in their farm system, as opposed

(01:07:27):
to the Dodgers, who Uh. Though they've parted ways with
some prospects, they still have some premier prospects that they
want to they want to keep under club control. Will
they part with them? You gotta have players in order
to trade for John Carlos Stanton As that's a backload
of deal. I agree with you in premise right overpaying
for a guy who's passed this prime and plays the
h and hits a bunch of home runs. Where have
I seen this before? Um? And he's from southern California.

(01:07:49):
That all makes sense. The problem with it is what
would they give up to the Miami Marlins that the
Marlins would would actually want that? I think that would
be my That'd be my issue. I will say this
because of the money involved. I'm wondering if that would
change the just taking on just taking on that money
is enough. Yeah, I think that's a That's a big

(01:08:11):
part of it. Right Like those the new owners, they
want to they want to shed salary. Um, there's no
question about it that they want to shed salary none. Uh.
It will be fascinating to watch to see exactly what
happens there. Fascinating um m hmm. I'm looking at this,

(01:08:33):
this deal last night, and I thought, have you guys
ever been to the Garden? You guys ever been which
buy or have you been to Medicine Square Garden? What
was the game you were there? Probably enough Calves mix, Yes,
no Lebron James. This was during his heat years. It
was during the Super Bowl, uh that week, and it
was a Kyrie Irving led Calves team against a Carmelo

(01:08:57):
and j R. Smith next team. I went last year
they played the Raptors and DeMar de Rosen came in
let him up at a game winning shot. And I've
been to the Garden for a bunch of different events.
My dad's in New Yorker. I always liked the garden.
I played in it, and I do understand, um the
idea that people say it's overrated. In many ways, there's

(01:09:18):
there is now looks since it's been been redone. It's spectacular.
It's really really nice. But you know, like every arena
kind of looks right. There's a court and there's a
there's stands, and there's different sky boxes or whatever. Um,
they put a billion dollars into the building. That's that's
with a B billion and um uh so it's it's
very very nice. And it's actually very consumer friendly in

(01:09:43):
terms of how many score boards where you can see.
I think the sight lines were always pretty good. Now
they're really really good. Um, But having played there, I'm
not I'm not sure I felt the energy when I
played there, But when I played there, it wasn't a
big event. When you have a big event at the Garden.
Last night was a big event. Nick's been playing well,

(01:10:03):
Christos perzingis Lebron James. And there's just some things that
about New York that you can't replicate elsewhere. You can't.
The lynsanity thing is not a thing if it doesn't
happen in New York. And just like remember, I think Buyer,
I think you teased it during the during the World Series.
Like I was, we were going to Game one of

(01:10:23):
the World Series and somebody sent me the list of
celebrities that were that were there and you're just like,
this is ridiculous. Only l A can you have And
maybe New York can you have that number of celebrities?
And New York's the exact same way. And then you
compile comb combined it with the fact that you have
you know, so many people from Wall Street and so
many other dignitaries. Um. You know, obviously Spike Lee is

(01:10:47):
always there. There's something special about the Garden and you
don't have to be pro New York I know, we
have this tendency to be like I like when the
Yankees lose. I hate the New York thing. New Yorkers
think they're better than everybody else. Whatever. I will say
that last night was one of those. All right, this
is why the Garden is cool, right because on a

(01:11:07):
Monday night in November, when the Knicks are a little
bit better than we thought and the Calves are much
worse than we thought a game that means very very little,
you're going to really enjoy yourself. And that was a
really cool night, really cool night. And it's one of
those things to which I think, because we've had about
what four years here, maybe five years since the Lakers

(01:11:29):
have been good, we've forgotten that Staples was the other
venue like that. Uh and and it's it's it's still
can be. You'll still get the celebs, it will still
have that cool feel, but it's one of the things
that the league needs. What's amazing about about the turnaround
in the NBA is um though it started when when

(01:11:53):
when Kobe got his teams to the championship, and it
was Lakers and the Celtics. The next step has been
performed really by the Golden State Warriors and the Cleveland
Cavaliers and the San Antonio Spurs or the Miami Heat
like these are non traditional superpower teams in non traditional
superpower cities. And so imagine, imagine the NBA and it's popularity.

(01:12:17):
If the Lakers were good, if the Celtics are good,
if the Sixers are good, if the New York Knicks
are good, And you might say, you listen to me
in small town America, like man, I don't care if
they're good in New York City, like I got you,
I feel you, I understand. But there's a lot more
people that live on that island than live in your state,

(01:12:38):
and those people's eyes on TV sets drop the popularity
and make a sport kind of an it kind of
a thing part of our culture. Last night in the Garden,
Lebron James leading a miraculous coming, incredible comeback against the Knicks.
The trash talking during, the trash talking after I was
pretty spectacular, pret spectacular stuff. And it's one of those

(01:12:58):
deals to which you don't have to like the garden,
but you last night you might have gotten the garden, like,
oh yeah, that's right, it's really cool. It's really cool.
Colin Coward said, you don't need to worry about Lonzo
ball in his lack of scoring. I'll tell you why
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I mean, if it's Ben Mallory over now you're Jason Smith. Um,
you know that the show that that follows mine with
Steve Gorman, Sports Course, JT the Brick. Those shows that
followers are great, the ones that proceed ours from Outkicked
the Coverage with Clay Travis to You can also on
Sirius sex m here. First things first, Uh, that's TV

(01:14:04):
show with Chris Carter and Nick Wright and General Wolfe
and Undisputed which is Skip Bayliss and Shinn Sharp and
Drick Taylor. Of course you can have Rich Eyesen, Dan Patrick,
Colin Callard. In this case, let's from Colin Calharda to say,
Lakers beat the Sun's last night on the road. Suns
come into Staples, I think Friday night. Tomorrow night they

(01:14:26):
play the seventies sixers. Robert Covington from the seventies Sixers
will join us at the top of next hour, so
about ten minutes away. Robert Covington will join us. But look,
Alonzo Ball did not play much in the fourth quarter.
That because Jordan's Clarks had just had a humming last night.
And many people have pointed out how poorly Alonzo Ball

(01:14:47):
has shot the basketball. Colin Colin, Colin Cowards not concerned.
Here's why. Who thought Alonzo was a great shooter? He
averaged fifteen in college. He's averaging nine and a half
in his first month in the NBA. A aren't the
Lakers trying to attract scorers? That's why they drafted a
Lonzo Ball. It was part of the plan to attract scores,

(01:15:10):
scorings gravy. He was seen as a passer, a vision guy,
and fun to play with and a culture changer. And
we look at all these point guards over the last
eight to ten years, John Wall, Westbrook, Steph Harden, Kyrie,
and we think point guards have to be great scores.
No they don't, No, they don't. If Lebron and Paul

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George are watching and coming to Los Angeles, and then
you include Kyle Kuzma who can shoot, and Brook Lopez
who can shoot, and Brandon Ingram who could shoot, and
of course Paul and Lebron could shoot, would you really
want Lonzo Ball shooting? Um, this is a little bit
more complex than Colin is letting on. It's fair to

(01:15:52):
point out that Lonzo balls a joint in the bottom
ten of fiodgo. Lonzo Ball is not shooting poorly. He
is the worst shooter in the NBA percentage wise. Let
me repeat that, he is the worst shooter in the
NBA percentage wise by a healthy margin, by three percentage points.
Of course, justin Holiday, who's a shooting guard shooting thirty

(01:16:15):
that's not a great way to be a shooting guard
on that list as well, though, In terms of poor
shooting point guards, Ricky Rubio att seven percent. Mike Conley,
who is the second or third highest paid player in
the NBA this year at thirty eight percent. Austin Rivers,
Diaron Fox, another rookie, is only shooting a Lonzo ball
shooting thirty one percent from field. The point is this,

(01:16:39):
that that being a great shooter is not a prerequisite
for what he how he wants to play. Here's the
real problem, though, a Lonzo ball shooting a poor percentage,
but a lot of it is miss layups, and while
others are shooting maybe not equally poorly, but poorly as well,
Alonzo is not athletic enough to make plays. So he

(01:17:03):
has to prove that. What what Colin I think doesn't
understand is he is a magnificent pastor. He was rought
in for your passing. But unless you can make somebody
other than your man who's guarding you help, what's the point.
What is the point of being a great pastor? There
aren't openings to make all of the passes he wants
to make. Additionally, like look, he's super super passive. Was

(01:17:28):
again last night where he looked a little bit rattled
going up against the Phoenix Suns. And so he's not wrong.
He was not brought into average game. He was not
brought into lead league in scoring to take thirty shots.
But the reason he's taking so many shots is twofold one.
His coaches are telling him to be aggressive, but the
real reason is they know he needs to be aggressive

(01:17:50):
otherwise nobody's gonna guard him, and nobody's gonna help on him.
And if they don't guard him and help on or
help on him, no one else is open. So his
gifts of passing are kind of mood. It is a
big problem, and it is a disappointment. It's still very early,
but considering the number and the volume of opportunities he's

(01:18:11):
gotten both on the floor and at the basket, in
addition to shooting jump shots, it's been disappointing this far. Yes, music,
what do you got, buddy? Isn't the problem with Lonzo
and today's NBA sort of similar to what happened with
Rondo in the sense of it's not that you have

(01:18:31):
to be a scoring first point guard like a Steph
Court Curry or Russell Westbrook, and it's more about you
just have to shoot well enough to keep the defense. Honest. Yeah,
I mean that was my problem the Rondo. What the
Celtics would do with Rondo was he would pass the
ball in the offer to initiate the offense, and and
then he they would actually have him go off the

(01:18:53):
weak side block that way, if you helped off him,
he would just make He would catch and make lamps.
He had such long arm in good hands, you could
throw it anywhere around him and he'd catch it and
he'd finish. But yeah, that limited him. I mean, look,
that's what's frankly limited Ricky Rubio is his inability shoot.
The one thing about Rubio is you know what's again,

(01:19:15):
what's really really troubling about a Lonzo is the adjusted
field goal percentage. Right, that's when you combine the three
point with the two point percentage. So as much as
you sit there and you go like, well, Mike Conley,
he's only shooting thirty eight percent, you combine it with
the adjusted I mean, Mike Conley shooting a lot of
threes and making enough of them where it actually adjusts

(01:19:36):
to forty five percent field goal shooting. A Lonzo ball
is not just the worst two point field goal percentage
shooter at thirty he has the worst adjusted field goal
percentage by a wide margin at thirty six. He's missing
layups and he's missing and he's shooting terribly from three
and so, yeah, you have to keep people honest otherwise

(01:19:58):
nobody's gonna guard you. Ken that be fixed? Can it
be tinkered with? Yes? But if you want to tell
me it's not a problem, you're completely obtuse. You have
not been paying attention. A guy who's shooting five threes
in game and only making one point two of them
is not good enough at this level. All right, we
got a bunch to get to next hour, Robert Covington,
and then, um, somebody else's got Brian Billicks canna join

(01:20:20):
us as well? Right? All right, so we're got an
NBA player, Robert Covington, get his thoughts on the seventies six,
Brian Billicks canna join us, and and we'll try and
make heads or tails. Why why do we all have
this sense that the Steelers aren't playing up to their level?
Or maybe this is their level? They win, but they
have been great? Um is all is? Are all things
good with the Patriots now? Or is simply they're playing

(01:20:41):
bad teams? It's a hard one to figure out, right,
Like I've we've there's a little bit of confirmation bias
with the Patriots. We thought the Patriots are good. Now
the Patriots are putting in big numbers, so the Patriots
are good, But are they really good? I mean, it's
hard to telling that defense because they went against the Broncos,
who nobody thinks has a good offense. I mean, what,
we're more than halfway through this thing, and I mean

(01:21:03):
I kind of have an idea, but I don't really
have an idea. Even even the Dolphins, who look like
dog poop last night, they still won four NFL games.
At four and five, they're one game. You know, they
played Tampa this week. They could very easily be five
and five. And you're like that that Dolphin team, that one.
They're terrible. When they're bad, they're bad. And I've been

(01:21:25):
bad a lot, all right, Robert Covington joins us. Next,
was there a moment to which he thought the process
wouldn't work? Find out? Next? What up? Doug Olive show?
Fox Sports Radio? Fascinated by that story of Greg Olsen, right, like,
you're like, why hasn't anybody in the NFL who's been

(01:21:47):
hurt been in a broadcast boot before? I believe Fox
did this once before with um Matt Hasselback right. Matt
Hasselback called the game once when when he was injured.
Um And of course that was for Fox Greg Olsen,
who everybody believes is going into the media when he's
done out for the year with injury. But the vikings
are like, hey, um, you know, here's the thing. We

(01:22:11):
don't want you seeing all the stuff we do in preparation.
We don't want you calling a game. And I can
I can see that. I think what's interesting about it
is um And and anybody who's called games has had
this before. You've had the coach who's paranoid about you
going back to the other coach, or you know, if
you played one place or played for a coach, you'll

(01:22:31):
share information. Uh. I actually agree with the idea because
Olson is still a player. Of not allowing him into
the production meetings, not allowing him to see kind of
the game planning and how they do things. I kind
of agree with that to having him not call the game,
which is what they had asked. I I disagree with

(01:22:53):
because there's nothing that he can see in calling a
game that would that no one else can see, right, nothing,
I mean every team, I'm hecked fans can get their
hands on an All twenty two copy that that is
absolutely no different for Greg Olsen. So I what I

(01:23:14):
find interesting is so many of these teams. Charles Davis
is a great job because he was part of that crew, right, guys,
he's part of that same crew. Charles Davis is a
really good job of sharing insight that he actually learned
at those meetings by watching practice, by watching all the
kind of game tape, by prepping. But not everybody does that.
Not everybody does that. And uh and it would be

(01:23:36):
interesting to see Olson who would have kind of the
A T M codes, if you will, and how he
would potentially use them anyway, that's a that's a story
for another day. NBA is continues to be really interesting
to me, as we like the NFL is more people
watch it what people watching. Although last night was the

(01:23:57):
fourth lowest Monday Night football broadcast ever and part of
that was the fact that Dolphins Panthers Tough Watch game
wasn't close tough Watch, um and Monday Night has you know,
Sunday nights kind of become the next Monday, the old
the new Monday Night, and even the Sunday Night game
was kind of a snooze fest. Because it was even

(01:24:19):
when it was close, it wasn't really close, and it
wasn't close for that long. The NBA, on the other hand,
seems to be, at least in the immediate future, a
little bit more interesting. Simply go to last night and
what did you have? You know last night you had
the Lebron led comeback in New York. The Calves outscore

(01:24:40):
the Knicks by eighteen in the fourth quarter to win
one oh four one oh one, after an early kerfuffle
when both team when when and his cantor got in
the face of Lebron James, Lebron James got in his face. Uh,
the Knicks were playing great basketball. Calves could not have
been any worse in the second quarter. And yet, like

(01:25:01):
so many games, tied the fourth quarter and the Calves
end up flexing their muscle and Lebron looked like the
best player on Earth. Um. Another incredible night for Janice
and to Decompo and the Lakers get a win, although
they did it by sitting Alonzo ball in the fourth quarter.
But kind of quietly, quietly the seventies sixers, who you know,

(01:25:26):
we talked about Joel Embid and how much he'd be
worth and Joel Embiden trying to figure out how do
you rate him? How do you rank him? Um, But
part of it was just this idea of the seventy sixers,
the trusting, the process. It had not yet produced wins.
Last night they went into l An beat the Clippers

(01:25:46):
one oh nine, one oh five. They got a night
off and they get the Lakers in the exact same building.
And with all the talk of him beating big with
spectacular thirty two and sixteen and Ben Simmons twenty two
twelve four assists, kind of quietly Robert Covington had thirty

(01:26:08):
one points. And Robert Covington, who like was not only
relative unknown, but he's the he's like the last of
the Mohicans, like he was there when they bottomed out.
So to go from that to thirteen games in being
above five hundred, this is the latest in the year
the Sixers have been above five and forever. You've been

(01:26:31):
there for the last four years after a short stint
in Houston during his rookie year. Robert Covington joins us
on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Robert, congrats on on the
incredible performance last night in Staples. Take me back when
you first walked into the seventies sixers organization. This is
four years ago, four years ago. What do you think

(01:26:52):
I kind of didn't know what to expect coming from.
I was betting opportunity, but um, I kind of reallydn't
know what I was coming in different, a different opportunity
to you know, to show my Thomas, But I never
I didn't really get need I have a feel for

(01:27:13):
it just as I went on. That's and I got
a better fit for happenings going on with the team
at organizations, right, you know what's what's what's interesting is, look,
I'm sure, Um, I'm sure. Like look I've talked to
t J McConnell about it. Like, look, when you're just
trying to make in the league, the best way to
making the league is to put up numbers, and the
best way to put up numbers is to get minutes.

(01:27:33):
So I'm sure during that first year you guys are losing,
Like dude, I'm getting Hey, I'm getting thirty minutes a game.
I gotta show myself so I can stick in this league.
But but take what But you're also a competitor, man,
You're a human being. What's it like to be putting
up numbers in terms of minutes, numbers in terms of points,
but suffering all those losses, what was what are those?

(01:27:54):
What are those mixed emotions? Like it was a bit frustrating. Um,
but you know, I kind of have experience that before
in my career. I understand that it was a good
and block. Uh you got to go through those times
to figure out, you know, what you got and what
gends you have. But uh, like I, like I said,
I've experienced a couple of times in my career, you know,
high school, college, But it's all about it growing, It's

(01:28:16):
all about maturing. It's all about the development phase event
you know, how you bounce back and how you take
those those losses and everything because there's a lesson and everyone,
so you know, it's a matter learning what the lesson
is doing the aspects of how to you know, finish,
and that's what episodes of grow as players and that's
what helped grow as a team. If there's a lesson

(01:28:37):
every loss, You've learned a lot of lessons in the
NBA with with the six years, absolutely I have. But
you know of all that's what it helped me, you know,
take that steps and becoming a player that I am now,
you know, evaluating the game, about going back and rewatching
the games to the states we made and being dancing
at their uh and critiquing it and they're just seeing,

(01:29:00):
know something different aspects instead of being not definitely now
you're watching it, so you get to know exactly what
the coaches be talking about. You know, it's interesting Robert
Covington joining us in the doug Otlip Show. Just drop
thirty one the Clippers, uh sixers or seven and six?
They got the Lakers tomorrow night at Staples Center. He's
hanging out in l a kind of have to spend
just five ten minutes of his time. Um. Look that

(01:29:22):
you guys signed j J to that massive deal, and
the idea is you and j J provides space on
the court for Ben simmons um and and rank you
for Joel as well. And if you can, if you can,
you know, knock down perimeter jump shots, there's gonna be
a place and guard your position. There's gonna be a
place for you in the NBA. And it's one thing

(01:29:43):
to benefit you know and getting better looks, which you have.
It's other thing to to to make those looks. I mean,
look at your numbers. You're up ten percent year to
year in raw field goal percentage and you're up seventeen percent.
Last year. You had thirty three percent from three right
now and again it's early year, you're you need from three.
How much of that is you the confidence and and

(01:30:06):
the fact the game has slowed down the work you
put in, But how much of that is Ben Simmons
creating help, dining you up, setting you up, and the
help that those guys demand in order to get you
those looks. It's very bed efficients to me. You know,
I knew this off season would be you know, a big,
a big year for me. Coming into this year, Uh,

(01:30:26):
start really focusing on making sure that want to camps
everything with its decide and make sure that I think
care of my body the right way and you know
the way been and you know, I saw so much
attention on the court, you know guys, and it's a
it's a it's a good thing for us as a
whole because you know, a guy that's who hugged up
on me. You know, it gives like it gives job

(01:30:49):
being on guy's length to you know, really operate and
if guys are you know, not hugged up, you know,
being you know, makes the right play and makes and
tries the open guy and then we just make the
right right the season as far as team, and you know,
we moved the ball really well at the Union. So
that's what it's been been inmitial for us. Okay, so um.
The juxtaposition of the start of your Philadelphia seventies six career,

(01:31:12):
you guys, and I'm not speaking on turn you guys
were the laughing stock of the league to now being
a team where you go to Staples last night and
it was a thing. And now when Wednesday night, it's
like you guys are a drawing card. People are saying, Hey,
come to the Laker game to see the seventies sixers,
to see and beat and Simmons and trusting the process.

(01:31:32):
What what what is that experience like to go from
one to the polar opposites of each other during a
four year span. It's all it's all about exactly what
it is the process. You know, wh we went through
you no them to a year to get to where
we are now. You know, we tell people just wait
and see what we came up because in a couple

(01:31:52):
of years that we'll be a team directly with and
you know, we're starting to take the steps into making
you know, our stuff deep during like what we have,
and teams are starting to take more respect to it.
They respected us before about how we played, but you know,
still we still coming and coming up on the short
end the very thing. But you know now that we're

(01:32:15):
starting to figure out everything, and we got the right
tea period, and we're putting the games, you know, finishing
our games or were supposed to, you know, previous years,
and now we're finding guys in the right situations that
are learning to you know, do that that very thing.
And that's what's you know, scary about this team. We
can do so much and you know we haven't even

(01:32:36):
touched our peak yet. So uh what we're what we're kidle,
it's gonna be amazing with everyone. Yeah, I try, and
I mean I think people see it in spurts and highlights,
but you see embiid every day. And look, I love Simmons.
I like the way he plays and the fact that
he's not a good shooter to perimeter shooter, but doesn't matter.
He doesn't take him. Uh that that in itself I love.

(01:32:57):
But but inbid Uh can have you ever seen anything
like a man that big, that agile, with that many
and and by the way he's entertaining. But that shouldn't
take away from the fact that he's a ridiculously talented
basketball player. Right, Have you ever seen anything like that?
I mean, like you you've been in the league for
for half a decade. You ever seen anybody moved like

(01:33:19):
that and do some of the things at his size? Nah?
Honestly know? And Jojoe is one of the guys that
started to really change the game, you know, the way
he plays. You know, he's adapted, you know. But he
didn't really kill a lion, right did he? Has he
told you that I Jojo killed the lion? Thing is
a b S story. He's told you that, hasn't he?

(01:33:39):
I don't know? He might have, you might not have it.
That's one thing that you know, some people have bage
experience like that. I've had a teammate that have told
me a story like that before. So and he really
he really did so? Uh? Like I wouldn't put the
past if he did. But video Robert video or didn't happen,

(01:34:01):
That's what I say, Right, video or didn't happen. Well, somebody,
you know, some people might not have because well whenever, whenever,
it has a head, but you can't have it. Alright, listen, man,
enjoy a good night in l A on your night off,
best of luck tomorrow night against the Lakers, and congrats
on last night. It was outstanding to watch, and I'm

(01:34:22):
sure it felt good to watch all those balls go
through the net. Keep it up, and thanks for joining us,
Thank you, thank you. All right, that's Robert Covington who
is he is on a season long shooting streak right now.
Super Bowl champion head coach and IF Network analysts Brian
Billy joins the show next. Um, it's a kind of
confusing NFL landscape, right, Like, there's a bunch of teams
that are good, but it's hard to super buy into

(01:34:44):
them because it feels like they're good more because other
teams are injured, right right, all right, we'll make heads
retails of the vikings of the Panthers, of the Steelers,
of the Titans that up coming next. But first you've
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(01:36:26):
nash Football League, and uh it was a super talented
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And of course now he breaks things down in the
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Coach help us, layman, Okay, help us, because we watched
the Panthers and they're okay, but you look at the
record and it's better than okay. You watch the Titans,

(01:36:49):
you're like, okay, there's six and three. Though, you watch
even the Steelers, who we all thought, well that's a
really really good offense, they're sitting there at seven and
two and a down seventeen to three. Indian applis Colts too,
have all kinds of injuries and dysfunction. Uh, coach, help
us out, who is actually? Are these teams actually good
or is it just a product of some of the

(01:37:09):
teams that we assumed would be elite are not for
a myriad of reasons. Yeah, I'll throw one on the
back end and just on the cusp of the other way.
You look at the Washington Redskins and I look at
them play and I just watched the play of Kirk Cousins,
the offense, how they're doing defensive lasting, But this is
pretty good football team. And then you look up and
you see that there four and five. I think it's

(01:37:31):
it just underlines again on any given week the consistency
that you have to have to be a dominant team.
And I don't think we have any dominant teams. I think, Uh,
Philadelphia l A Are close to getting there. When I
say Domino, I mean they're good in all fates offense, defense,
and special teams are balanced on offense. The Steelers ought

(01:37:52):
to be, but they they then they particularly on the road,
have one of those head scratchers like you're alluding to
against the Colts, like we're you know, where did has
come from? This is not the same team that we saw.
It looks so good the week before. Now every team
is capable of that. We're all kind of waiting for
Fel don'tee and the Rams to for the other to
drop and to see if they're going to have that

(01:38:12):
kind of game. They have not so far. H one
looks like they had theirs early and now they're back
into a rhythms. So it's just over sixteen games. You know,
it's it's hard to maintain that consistent level that you
have to be because it's as cliche as it is.
On any given day, you know, one team can beat another. Um,

(01:38:33):
let's let's go to those Eagles and the Rams because
there is the Obviously, the parallel is two second year quarterbacks.
Wentz played more and looked more competent in year one.
Golf has looked maybe as competent in year two. Both
are having outstanding seasons. Both. You know, it was like
growing pains the first year differently, and they've you know,

(01:38:56):
especially golf, they chose to surround him, not just with
the play calling a sham faye, but go out and
spend some legit money on the line and change some
skilled position players around him. Obviously, it's a copycat league.
What what are other coaches and organizations going to do
with young quarterbacks that we can glean from from Philadelphia
and from l A uh and their success that they

(01:39:16):
can copy. Well, I think everybody recognizes that when you
feel like you've got one of those guys, you've got
to surround him with talent. It's a lot to ask
a young quarterback to saddle him up, say with some
of the some of the talent with Sometimes I see,
say in New England with Tom Brady, but I feel like, well,
look Brady will get us through it. So we can
you know, we we can do with this player, this

(01:39:36):
B player, that be player, both the young players you
need to do just that. You need to surround them,
particularly the offensive line. You gotta with at least one
big playmaker on the outside. You can add a running game,
you know, so be it that that'd be the great,
But that because you know the proverbial quarterback driven league. UH.
You gotta put your asset someplace, and you want to

(01:39:57):
give that young player every opportunity to look good because
if they stumble early, then all of a sudden that
puts on a path that you may indeed not have
one of those guys after spending maybe a top pick
on a quarterback the way that the Rams in Philadelphia did.
Adrian Claiborne had six sacks. Obviously you have tras Green
was overwhelmed. How much of of the debacle for Dallas

(01:40:21):
in Atlanta do you put solely on Green? And how
much do you put in the play calling? How much
do you put on on Doc for not adjusting the
production as quarterbacks can do well. Everybody talks about Okay,
when you have a problem, you know, you gotta turn
the line, you gotta chip with the back here to
put the tide in there. Dallas did all that. It's
not like they were ignoring it totally. Um. But I

(01:40:42):
do think sometimes when you have a quarterback that's his
athletic as Dak Prescott and can get himself out of
problems a k. A. Russell Wilson, uh, you figure we
can get by with this offensive line. I think that's
where you see in Seattle the same way. They're relying
awful heavily on the quarterback getting themselves out of trouble
when they have trouble with the offensive line. But yeah,

(01:41:04):
it was problematic for him. But as I'm looking at
and I went back and looks at the film. But
because I was going to do a thing on the
offensive line for Dallas on our playbook show in the
NFL Network on Wednesdays at six UM to kind of
make that same point. You know, there was enough times
where they did turn the line back into it and
two on one and just didn't do it, you know,
good enough, and it's gonna have to get correct because obviously, uh,

(01:41:29):
the Cowboys playing Phildelphia is capable of doing those things
with the defense, with the wide nines and the defensive
ends that he has and some of the creative pressures
to put some pressure on Dak Prescott, you know, hopefully
to come up with the same result. Brian Billy joining
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year on the Doug Gotlip Show. All right, so last night,
I guess was the good or better version of Cam Newton,
but there's also a lot of design runs with Cam Newton.

(01:42:13):
You talked about how when you have athletic quarterback sometimes
you can think you can get away with the offensive line.
What about that style of play calling. Does that have
longevity this season what they're doing in Carolina as they've
kind of reformulated themselves throughout the year. Yeah, that's a concern.
You thought they were trying to get away from that,
and they did, and of course they have Christian McCaffrey

(01:42:34):
and Stewart, you know, they want to have that running game,
and it wasn't going real well. Uh and so I
was like, Okay, well we're just gonna crank Cam up again.
And it's been effective. He's running very, very effectively. But
you're right, at the end of the day, that's a
lot of wear and tear on a quarterback. And and
to me, it is a little problem. Mat Caroline is
playing really good defense, So back to playing good defense.

(01:42:55):
Marked difference between when Luke Kikley is in the game
and not just to show you the to what that
one player makes, but really solid defensively. And you thought
with the increased running game to be able to make
more big plays down to feel. I think that potential
is for them there. But clearly if they decide, you
know what we gotin cam Newton a bunch to win
a game and and move the ball and score a

(01:43:15):
lot of parts points, that's what we're gonna do. But
now getting into the second half of the season, that
the wear and tear on him, it would be a
concern for me. There's some discussion about John Gruden getting
back into coaching. He's been out for a decade. He
does the Monday night football broadcast. You've been out for
a while yourself. I'm sure that you've had opportunities you
have not allowed uh to go public. Some have gone

(01:43:37):
in fact public, and the discussions about you. How hard
is that? I mean, like, look, I'll just tell you
as a viewer, I learned a ton from watching your shows.
Because you do do breakdowns. You are still very connected
with the league. But when when when you do that
for a living, there is still a break between that
and actually evaluating players in a daily basis being in

(01:44:01):
the league. How difficult would that be for Gruden? From
your own perspective as somebody that I'm sure at some
point in time, in the past and in the future
will be asked to get back in John, and a
lot of people will conjecture it seems like every year
it comes up, and I don't know whether John truly
wants to get back in or not. I will say
this from from her first hand experience, and I'm done.
I'm done coaching. So I'm not saying this is the

(01:44:23):
one trne to pitch myself for a job, but any
coaching and particularly one like Jon Gruden, grhant, Okay, you've
been away from the game, but imagine keep this in mind.
And I've long said if I were to have gone
back to coaching because of what I have been doing,
not only for the NFL network, but when I was
doing games for Fox for five or six years, think
about that. You're sitting in virtually and Jonna said, every

(01:44:45):
uh facility in the national something All right, hold on,
We'll get coach Billy back. Because this is a really
good answer the it's the and and look, it's an
unprompted answer to which I completely agree with. And it's

(01:45:05):
something that I talked about when I was interviewed for
a couple of basket basketball jobs, which is you know, like, look, yeah,
I haven't been coaching by coaching one team, but when
you're evaluating every team and you're watching every team practice,
every team play, it's you're You're a more valuable resource

(01:45:26):
than a guy who's been on one staff for a year,
one staff for even for a decade. Coach Billy rejoins
us here in the Doug Gotlip Show. Sorry was your
cell phone? That was? That was the only reason we
were reconnected with that. You were you were saying you
were you were saying, um about Jon Gruden and his
in comparing first person, firsthand to his preparedness, Yeah, I mean,

(01:45:48):
and I don't think it would be he could go
back to the game very easily because of you kind
of take the blind blinders off and you see the
league as a whole. You're not preparing for a single opponent.
You're not doing it with the limited asian of Okay,
this is what we've done. Uh, and watching every every coach,
I mean, over at what John has been doing this
for eight nine years now. UM, I promise you he

(01:46:08):
would be a better coach if he choose to go
back in it, given the experiences that he's had sitting
in those buildings every Friday and Saturday doing what he's doing.
He he has not lost touch with the league in
any way, shape or form. How legitimate of the Saints,
you know what, Yeah, if get anybody has pranked off

(01:46:29):
what six in a row, seven row? Now they're legitimate.
You can't you can't administer. They are better on defense,
there's no question now the schedule, they've played what they
have the rest of the way, you know, I have
not been as challenge. They'll get challenged along the way.
A little bit of the question becomes what happens when
they will play one of those offenses that can really
push that defense. I don't know that they faced that
as readily. We know that Drew Brees can get into

(01:46:51):
a tract meat and have no problem, even though that's
not the form deala they have right now. But absolutely
they are for real. Um, I think we're gonna we're
all gonna kind of wait and see until they challenge
was one of those better offenses before we sign off on. Yeah,
they're substantially better. Can make a true Super Bowl run
based on what they're doing defensively. Brian Billicks, super Bowl
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Dan buy or find out what else is going on
the world of sports. But he got a lot of
i R news today. The Redskins finally put running back
Rob Kelly, who has been banged up all season. Tried
to play through his multiple injuries, but today was placed

(01:47:34):
on injured reserve. Seahawks doing the same with running back
c J Process and cornerback Richard Sherman. That was expected.
Sherman gonna missed the rest of the season with that
rupture achilles. The Seahawks did make the signing of Byron
Maxwell official today, and the Panthers have lost wide receiver
Curtis Samuel for the rest of the season because of
an ankle injury. Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones says it's

(01:47:54):
laughable to think that any NFL owner would suggest that
he give up ownership of the team. It was in
New York Times report yesterday that said that the owner
sent a season desist order to Jones, who had threatened
to sue the National Football League, and one of the
options could be the force Jones to give up the team.
Up the team, Jones said that it's laughable. Jones also
today talked about the status of Roger Goodell's contract extension.

(01:48:16):
I don't have any comment. Oh my bad, there, Doug.
How about this one. Roger has almost eighteen months. We've
got all the time in the world to evaluate what
we're doing. We've got all the time in the world
to extend him. We just need to slow this train
down and discuss the issues at hand in the NFL.

(01:48:36):
That was Jerry Jones on the Roger Goodell contract extensions.
So trying to slow it's, by the way, not a
crazy thing. I mean, like, look, it's the whole idea
is eighteen months out, what is what is the rush?
What's the rust? Like? Is somebody gonna steal him? Like?
That's the thing that I do think. I think that
the way Jerry Jones has handled it has been abrupt

(01:48:56):
and heavy handed. But it's not a crazy thing to
go like, hey, he's got a two months, he's asking
for an insane amount of money. Why are we rushing
this thing like there's no and it's not not even
if you don't even need a franchise tag. No one's
gonna come in and say, Roger, listen, you're doing such
a good job in the NFL. Well, they'll pay you
twice as much to come over to our shop. Like
that doesn't happen. I don't know where Roger Goodell's leverage

(01:49:18):
comes from. I really don't. It's amazing to think that
this was just a few months ago that it seemed
that it was full support for Roger Goodell, and now
it's changed, and now we've heard that there could be
other owners that maybe aren't on the side of Goodell.
But yeah, I agree with you. You've got time and
Jerry's point there on caer ld Well puts on one
NBA notes pass along. Kyrie Irving will play tonight against Brooklyn.

(01:49:39):
Gonna wear a mask to protect his facial fracture. So
Kyrie Irving gonna be going tonight against Brooklyn. He's worn
a mask before and played well in a mask. I
think he broke his nose. I've never played in one
of those masks, and they look ridiculously uncomfortable. Yes, the
heck ri Rip Hamilton's had a career and then after
then he knows just then after Stay and Lebron's that

(01:50:03):
one whatever fine he got for wearing that black mask,
that one game that was that was worth it back
in the day, Yeah, Kyrie wore a black mask. Read
the black mask too. I like the black masks and
they're much better. Do you get do you remember the
seventies and eighties masks that were like they were just
terrible looking. They were almost like they were round eye
holes with big Yeah, it was It's like they were

(01:50:25):
wearing a basketball almost. It looked like somebody has to
explain to me this Cadell thing by or can you Ramos?
Can you guys like John Ramos can do it? Ramos Ramos,
thanks for bringing me on about this, uh, this situation.
I don't know anybody who's like, yeah, I got eighteen
months left, let's let's redo it. And hey, why don't
you pay me like twice what I'm getting even though

(01:50:47):
our ratings aren't good, Like, yeah, that's that sounds now. Now.
Maybe in the world of executive comp right executive compensation,
they live in a complete alternate universe, Right, we're like
fifty min was like, yeah, it's there. You're the industry
is making blah blah blah billion and I'll make fifty million.
I'm worth you know whatever one percent of yearly earnings

(01:51:09):
are Like that sounds great. And there are and remember, um,
here's where I will take Goodell's side. There are no
stock options. Right. This is not like, well, we're gonna
give because in most most executives are compensated with stock options, right, Like,
we're gonna pay you like a million, but we give
you stock options that are but you can't sell them

(01:51:30):
right away, and there's a time in which you can
sell them that are worth a couple that are worth
you know, twenty million more and or maybe you get
a million and you get five million stock options. And
then they get a yearly bonus and they get these
insane bonuses, which, by the way, is what we think
athletes should truly get, which is paid based upon performance,
or at least teams performance. Right Like, wouldn't that be

(01:51:50):
a great way to structure a contract to which the
team wins and everybody wins financially. Yeah? But uh, but
so to to to bag Godell in this I would
I would just say, very very clearly and honestly, there
isn't a stock option. There isn't a bonus. He has

(01:52:11):
gotten bonuses in the past which have driven up his salary.
He didn't get nearly the bonuses last year, and and
so if he's asking for fifty it might sound like
a crazy number. But anybody else who runs a a
company or a corporation worth as much as the NFL
is worth member if all of their teams are worth
somewhere in the one point five billion dollar range, right,

(01:52:32):
that'd be a fair maybe a low estimate. Right, the
Cowboys are worth four and the Jaguars are aware one,
and I think the Jaguars was more than one, and
he got thirty two teams. Let's say it's thirty two
times one and a half. Okay, thirty two times one
and a half. So you're talking about, you know, in
the forties six forty seven billion range, to say, ay,

(01:52:55):
forty six seven or forty seven billion, let's round up
fifties fifty billion, uh is the value of the company.
You're making hundreds upon hundreds, maybe a billion dollars a
year in revenue To say, like, hey, I should get
fifty fifty million dollars is not crazy? Is not crazy?

(01:53:15):
So um, But if I'm the NFL owners and I'm
Jerry Jones, I think it's a reasonable point. Like, hey, look,
just because we said we want to give you a
contract extension doesn't mean we want to give a fifty
million dollars. And things have kind of turned since we
last talked and they haven't been handled well. And I'm
not saying we're not going to give you a contract extension.
I'm just saying, what is the rush? Like it's the

(01:53:39):
same in any negotiation, And who has the leverage in
this thing? Like if you're Roger Goodell, all right, you're
gonna walk out that door in eighteen months, Okay. Is
there another place that you can make twenty five million dollars?
I don't. I don't believe that exists at fifty nine
years old, sixty years old? Is there another place to
which you can go and make No, there's not. And

(01:54:03):
it always strikes me that somebody, these owners who are
remarkable businessmen, they have incredible stories coming from nothing to
something or from something to something ridiculous? Right, how there's
such terrible negotiators in all parts of the sports business,
sports of parts of the sports industry. I don't, I don't.

(01:54:24):
I don't get it. Yes, I ry music. Isn't the
old philosophy sort of in politics that if we're at war,
that usually means good for the incumbent. That like, if
there's a candidate, we don't usually elect someone new in
the middle of a war. That usually means you get
reelected for another term, because they want to create sort
of that continuity. Now, obviously, Jerry Jones is the one

(01:54:46):
in this situation trying to create all this havoc by
trying to halt the negotiations for Goodell because he's angry
at him for a variety of reasons. But what if
the other owners like Arthur Blank and whoever else is
on that compensation and committee is looking at the situation going, look,
we're struggling right now with a lot of issues. If
we can just get Goodell locked into a long term

(01:55:08):
contract that will create some continuity, it takes that whole
issue off the table, and now we can focus on
dealing with these things in front of us instead of
Goodell trying to angle for a new contract, all of
us trying to figure out the ins and outs on
what that contract is going to be. We can just
lock him in for the next five or six years
and we can worry about getting the TV ratings back up,

(01:55:30):
getting the players to stop kneeling during the anthem. So so,
because they have so many problems facing them right now,
they want to lock him into a contract that they
don't have to also worry about that while they're dealing
with all these other problems. Okay, I mean like, so,
so you think that's his leverage leverages. Look, we got

(01:55:53):
a lot of problems. I'm not saying that's the leverage.
I'm saying that's why these this group of owners is
even though he has eighteen months left, they're like, look,
let's just give him a contract extension so then in
eighteen months we don't have to worry about it. Yeah. Yeah,
I I just again or or you know, my way
of thinking is you know what, he's got eighteen months
to fix it, right, I mean again, you're ryan, You're

(01:56:14):
not wrong. That's an interesting way of looking at like
this is one last thing, let's just check it off.
Just just too much money? Yeah? Is he kind of
a is he kind of a bear? Does he think
he created the NFL and he somehow came up with
the shield thing. Yeah wow, Okay, there's a night football,
good idea, games in London, games in Mexico City, good idea.
But like, enough of this guy talking about him, So alright, fine,

(01:56:38):
but that's that's what you're saying. My My point is like,
if I'm Jerry Jones, I'm like, all right, look man,
fix it. If you want to make fifty million dollars, cool,
I will pay you fifty million dollars. I had no
problem paying fifty million dollars of the league's money that
we're making, especially most of this money is coming in
from the relocation fees, so it's not actually coming out
of Jerry Jones pocket. Great. But if it's me Ryan

(01:57:01):
and I'm running the business, I'm like, hey, you got
you're up in eighteen months. Cool, you've got twelve months.
Fix it. Let's see what you can do. We'll support you. Now.
The problem with what Jerry Jones is doing is the
way he's doing it and the timing of where Jerry
Jones he's it sounds like he's kind of a spoiled
bratt or there's another term that starts with a B

(01:57:23):
that ends with an h that he kind of feels
like because or he's as a kid, say, but hurt
because he uh because his star running back was suspended, right,
things didn't go his way, and so now all of
a sudden he wants the commissioners deal to be held up.
He wants to personally embarrass him. But if I'm running
the company, and I would agree with you that you

(01:57:44):
do have this litany of issues which is dramatically changed
the image of the NFL, even if they're still making money,
even if the TV deals are locked. Show me that's
all anybody wants in business? Hey man, let me show
you that's all anybody wants in sports. Give me the minutes.
So it's just different ways of approaching business differently. And

(01:58:07):
I would say that Jerry probably has a smart point,
but the way in which it's coming across it feels
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(01:58:53):
got for us. Now, let's start off with that Viking story,
as the Minnesota Vikings reportedly asked Fox in the NFL
to I have current Panthers Tony greg Olson broadcast their
games Sunday against the Rams. Doug, I know you touched
on this a little bit earlier, but for people who
may have missed it, Panthers have a buy in week seven.
So Olsen was going to broadcast this game, but the
Vikings objected to it because the Panthers and Vikings actually

(01:59:14):
play in a couple of weeks. The Rams also had
a bit of a problem with it for the sake
of he won't take part in pre production meetings because
the Rams and Panthers could face off in the playoffs,
but they don't play in the regular season. But it
was the Vikings, the one with the big deal of
not wanting Greg Olsen to call the game on Fox Sunday.
But he is going to call the game correct, Yes,
with Kevin Burkhardt and Charles Davis. Yeah, the Fox is like, okay,

(01:59:41):
another reason to watch that game. Yeah, I mean there's
another reason. He's really good, really good. UM got a
good boys, good projection, smart, interesting guy. Um. I think
he's I think he's excellent. And the idea that he
can't call the game when he can watch the All
twenty two like anybody else. You know, the question become
how much does he tell us? Really? That's you know,

(02:00:02):
how much is he willing to tell us even though
he still has stock in the game. The Citizens for
Responsibility and Ethics say that Vice President Mike Pence his
trip to a Colts game where he walked out after
the national anthem because some of the players were kneeling,
cost police in Indianapolis about fourteen thousand dollars in overtime
and other costs. Wait, why so why was that the

(02:00:25):
case or why why did it cost them? Because they
had to provide the security for him to attend and
then walk out, But he just went to the game,
he would have had the they would have the same
security anyway, right, correct, But we'd have stayed the whole time,
there would have been even more security for longer, right
I suppose. Look, I'm not like, I don't, but remember
if across the country and then went right back to

(02:00:47):
the West Coast after making the well whatever, this is like,
this is like uh to me, this is like athletes
in college who we calculate how much time they spend
with their team, like, oh, got like sixty hours a week, Like,
because I ate with my teammates, like you were gonna
eat anyway, I don't. I'm not a big Mike Pence dude. Right, Um,

(02:01:09):
he does have really good hair, silver fox, and he
ties an excellent tie. But but if you're going to
a game, like he actually saved money by walking out
early as opposed to all that security being there if
he stayed for the entirety of the game, it is
what it is. Nix soon or James Dolan wants to
sell the New York Liberty. Yes, I tried to look
up franchise values for the w n B A, so

(02:01:30):
I don't but I couldn't find any. Don't know what
the asking prices. But the New York Liberty here for sale.
Good luck with that one. Uh. Manager of the Year
award comes out in the next hour. American League, Yeah,
it could be Paul Molitor, could be A J. Hinch,
could be Terry Frank COONa. But Black and Dave Roberts
are actually together chilling waiting for the winner. For the
National League. There two of the finalists, Tor Lavello, the

(02:01:52):
other one for the Diamondbacks. Got me Toy Lavello of
the Diamondbacks. How he turned that around? Gotta be Polly
Molitor what he did with the Minnesota Minnesota Twins considering
the rosters, everybody knew A J. Hne had a load
of roster I agree with that. And uh, finally, speaking
of those Twins, there's a report from Fanderick Sports that
says they could go after a big name picture of
this soft season, the Twins spending money on a big name,

(02:02:13):
maybe Jake Garriotta or U Darvish. Okay, that means it
won't work if let's bag it out there. Impressed John Drunk.
The thing is with lo Angelo Ball coming back to
the States, I don't know if he ever plays for
U C l A. But LaMelo Ball is never gonna
play for U c l A, and Lo Angelo was
going to come off the bench and play limited minutes.

(02:02:35):
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