LIVE From Day 1 of the U.S. Open!

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Welcome in. I'll get to my thoughts on the current
status of the Anthony Davis trade or potential for the
Anthony Davis trade, uh momentarily, but let let me kind
of paint the picture for you. As a guy who

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I've been up here once before, I, unlike Dan Buyer,
have never actually played Pebble Beach. The time I was
supposed to play Pebble Beach, I was playing in another
kind of pro am and it got rain. We had
so much rain that we didn't come to Pebble or
Too Spyglass. Instead, we slugged it out a couple other
courses around the corner. But uh, currently Scott somebody named
Scott Piercy is leading the US Open. I say somebody

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named Scott Piercy because in Chase, Ricky Fowler, Roy McElroy, um,
John rom uh To a lesser extand Phil Mickelson still
kind of hanging around. We have yet to see the
t off of first t shot of Tiger Woods, and
and a lot of times at at at National Championships,
at p Gas, at the at the at the British Open.

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The leader on day one is a lot like the
person you see going out to check what the noises
on the trash in the trash in a in a
murder movie, right in a core movie, they're not going
to be around for the last scene. Very occasionally they are,
but for the most part, you know, brooks Kepta leading
tip to finish is a little bit different than somebody

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named Piercy but nonetheless he's getting the adulation. He's in
the clubhouse at four under par and we are here
love UM and I and obviously look because it's on
Fox and Fox Sports one, it gives us a great
chance to come out see the grounds. Buyer got a
chance to play during preview day. But because it's pebble,

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which I mean, it's as picturesque as any course anywhere
in the world and will be more importantly because it's pebble.
And nineteen years ago, in this very same tournament, Tiger
Woods lapped the field and in a nucluluche way, announced
his presence with authority. It's really cool to see nine.
Think about that ninety years later, what is the outside

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of the New England Patriots? And even the Patriots in
two thousand weren't what they are now. It wasn't until
two thousand three, right two wow, now actually two thousand two.
But nineteen years later, and I don't know if he's
gonna win. I have no idea, but the idea that
take just completely take out the injuries, the misogyny, the downfall,

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to take out all the other parts of the story
and just say hey, nineteen years after a guy wins
the US Open, dominates at lapse Field. Nineteen years later,
he's still a favorite. Like that in and of itself,
if you take out the other parts, is remarkable, absolutely remarkable,
and so like, look are we here to see if

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if Ricky Fowler, who has just taken the lead at
five under through fifteen, as he's birdied the last two holes,
can Ricky finally win a major? Obviously when the Players
Championship going back two years ago? Yeah, that would be
an amazing story. Really, a super popular golfer who we've
had on, who we followed. Yeah, that that would be cool.

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It'd be But the story this week is about Tiger
Woods and the idea that nineteen years later, after having
one out Augusta and got into his fifteen fifteen major,
can he get sixteen in a place that nineteen years
ago he was as dominant as any athlete has been

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in any championship competition. Ever, what's old is new again? Right?
Short shorts back in the mullet, back in Ricky Fowler's
sporting the mullet. All right, tight clothing has been in
for a while, but now you add in the short shorts.
So like, look smoking on airplanes is never gonna come back.

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There's some other things that are never gonna come back,
but Tiger Woods is kind of like that, kind of
like that style. My dad used to have this belief,
don't throwout your clothes. It's always gonna come back in
style again. And I give you Tiger Woods. My late
father somewhere up above is smiling. All right. Let's get
to the the the sports story of the day outside
of the US Open, and that's that. That's that. We're

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still waiting for this to be consummated. And the more
you hear it, the more you feel it, the more
it it seems like it's going to be done. And
that's Anthony Davis. It feels like it's going to be
a Laker. And the only question is can the Lakers
get away with not giving up Kyle Kuzma. They're gonna

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have to give up a Lonzo Ball there from renumber
two overall pick who I do believe has more value,
has more value then uh than the public would lead
you believe. And a Brandon Ingram, who is the only
player on the Lakers roster that wasn't drafted by when
Rob Polinko was in charge or signed when Rob Polinko

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was in charge and then likely the number four overall pick.
And the more you feel, the more you hear, the
more you sense all the combining factors that the Knicks
aren't seriously involved. And now it's the Celtics. But Anthony
Davison and through his agent Rich Paul, has said he
ain't coming back to the Celtics. You can trade for him,

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but we're not having that conversation. Kyrie seems to have
moved on and feels like he's going to be a
Brooklyn Net. Could there be a last second Hail Mary, Sure,
but time is actually on the side of the Lakers
because this deal has to be done before the draft
is completed, because then the number four overall pick has

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a limited value if it's not drafted for a specific team,
doesn't mean it can't wait until Draft Day, which is
next Thursday. Can hear on Fox Sports Radio. We've got
a great show, Christophers Starr, Jason McIntyre, Rick Buker. They'll
cover the entire first round. But that's the dead and
deadlines bring deals. And the more you hear it, the
more you feel it, the more you sense that it

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will end up that The only question is The only
question is in a game of Chicken, can the Lakers
hold on to Kyle Kuzman. And if they can, then,
as I told you before, I it was a it
was a felt like a kitchen sink type of offer
that Magic Johnson must have had out there and something.

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Do I think they offered as much as was was broadcast?
Probably not, But I do think there was an amount
of desperation from the Lakers side at that point in
time where you could have had a better deal than
you could have now, because now New Orleans rolled the
dice change management and had the Celtics felt like they
were one Anthony Davis away and had Kyrie Irving, they

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would have been more focused on going for it. They're
still gonna go for it, but it's not as good
a deal, right the Nicks. What do they actually have
to offer the Clippers that they don't want to They
don't want to trade, they want to acquire. They feel

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like they're getting Kawai Leonard. There aren't other teams in
desperation mode. And because the timing and the lack of
contract and the fact that Anthony Davis has put out
there this is where he wants to go. He ain't resigning,
even though Paul George did resign, and maybe Kawai letter does.
Times on the side of the Lakers here, they can't
wait to see New Orleans can't wait to see if

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Kauai resigns that that generates more interest. So I think
it will be done. I don't think it'll be done
e O b end of business. But the sooner it's done,
the more New Orleans can do their due diligence if
they want that draft pick. Wouldn't be surprised as something
else is thrown in and Josh Hard or some other

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player or whatever. But Kyle Kuzma is a starter. Kyle
Kuzma fits alongside Lebron James. Kyle Kuzma can make shots,
can stretch the defense, and even though he's not a
particularly good defensive player, he is a starter. And just
the Lakers would would end up being so bereft of
surrounding talent that I don't think the plan would work

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nearly as well if they included Kuzma into the deal,
and I think they feel that way. To boot, all right,
we'll get you ready for Game six of the NBA found.
By the way, there's an NBA Finals game about as
the crow flies. It's only like an hour and a
half of here to get to Oakland, but you know, traffic,
et cetera, probably a three hour trip last game and oracle,

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no matter what, will the Golden State Warriors be swept
at home by the Toronto Raptors? Or will will the
pressure which is now seemingly clearly shifted to the shoulders
of the Raptors? Right, you don't want to be the
second team to have a three games in one lead

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and then factor in Unlike when the Warriors lost the
Warriors had Draymond got suspended and Andrew Bogat got hurt,
Like this is the opposite. Kevin Durant is out. You
have a better team, you have two games, you've one
here before. Pressure feels like it's on the Raptors tonight,

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or is it? We'll ask Ethan Strouss. He covers the Warriors.
He's been joining us all season long for the athletic
Who is the pressure on tonight? What are the Warriors
have left in the tank? And oh yeah, by the way,
does he know exactly what was said to Kevin Durant
about the possibilities of injury going into Game five? We'll

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as people were lathering on that suntan lotion here in
Pebble Beach and neighboring Carmel and Monterey. But it is
back in the low sixties and high fifties where it
will remain throughout the week. Can in kind of typical
Pebble Beach overcast, yet picturesque fashion continue to keep our
eye and the leaderboard. Dan Buyer will join us momentarily

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as uh, that looked just like you, Dan Buyer, did
it not that? That? That? That that t shot. That's
the second shot that went into the ocean. So the
second shot, which which which hole? Is this picturesque par
five six holes? So you see those bunkers on the left.
I was just about fifteen feet to the right. It's

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so easy. There's this big green patch of grass and
there happens to be a little bit of rocks and
water to the right. But somehow, obviously those of us
who play golf, you hit it. It It has a tendency
to find water. It's like a water seeking device. Ethan
Strouss covers the Warriors for the Athletic fallm on Twitter
at Sherwood Strouss. Also check out the House of Strouss podcast.

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Ethan uh Last Game at Oracle No matter what tonight.
Considering Game four, was you felt like it was, you know,
closing up shop the last game. What is it like
this time around? I don't know. It's funny you mentioned
that because I actually walked along the court after the game.
It maybe one am, one three d am, and I

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was I was taking some pictures because, uh that that's
where I effectively grew up professionally, was going to that
arena after college, and so to see it come back.
I don't know if I was emotionally prepared for it
to all come back. I had, I had said my goodbyes.
You know, this is uh, at least there's some closure
in the sense that you go in knowing that it

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is the end, that there's no doubt to it. Um.
But I expect an incredible atmosphere. Uh. And I don't
think that the Warriors will win this particular game, if
I had to guess, right, nobody knows anything, as Sail
Goodwin once said, nobody knows anything when that ball goes
up in the air. But it should be it should

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be maybe even better atmosphere than there wasn't Game four. Yeah,
I'm with you. I think it is interesting that their
favored in this game. Um, you know, part of it
is right the American but betting public hasn't come around
to the fact that this is not the Warriors of old,
this is the old Warriors. Um. But but there's the
point you made about not being maybe emotionally ready to

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go back into that renafter saying goodbyes. What about the Raptors.
They had the trophy in the locker room, right, they
had the champagne on ice like this thing felt like
he was over and Nick Nurse called the time out
and all of a sudden, all bets, all bets appeared
to be off. How do they emotionally recover from kind
of like back in the day, you know, the legendary

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Celtics taken on the Lakers at the Old Fabulous Forum
and Jack ken Cook had the had all of the
streamers and the balloons up in the rafters, only to
have the Celtics win the game. How did the out
of the Raptors, uh, you know, get their emotions together
and refocus after what felt like a championship run on
a twelve to two run late in that game. Oh,

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it's a demoralizing thing. I remember it because I remember
in T S I remember seeing the Warriors because all
the family members are in town and the friends are
in town, and they're all outside that family room in
that hallway, and they're ready to go. And even if
the players and everybody else have tried not to hear
about the preparations, at some level they are aware that

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the party is being prepared. It's being prepared at home.
All of your loved ones are in town. All of
your life isn't leading up to this moment, and then
to have it snatched away and for you to fly
across the continent. I remember how demoralize the Warriors players
were and all of their family members were. I remember
that It's significant. It is difficult to come back from.

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I guess all you can say as far as the
Raptors chances are concerned, is that the Warriors also suffered
a demoralizing event of their own, and Kevin Durant getting
grievously injured in the way that he did, And also
other Raptors seemed to be a fairly resilient team. They've
got guys who have been through things like this. They
two of them were on that Spurs team that had

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the championship in their grasp. Right before the Ray Allen shots.
So they've been through I suppose similar heartbreak and can
theoretically rebround rebound from at all. Let's discuss Kevin Durant.
Yesterday he revealed on Instagram that he had his Achilles
tendon repaired, which we assumed would happen. Um, there wasn't

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any kind of venom. There hasn't been negativity from anyone
his camp. There have been other players come out and
point the finger at the Warriors and the Warriors doctors,
the same Warriors doctors, by the way, that that held
out Clay Thompson when Clay Thompson wanted to play going
back to Game four. Suddenly now these same Warriors doctors apparently,
by some people's estimation, forced or coursed Kevin Durant into playing.

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My question is this, UM, I've talked to several several
doctors and they all said it kind of felt like
it was probably an Achilles tendon, you know, slight tear
to begin with, and that there's a chance they knew
this was a possibility. But everything we're hearing out of
the Warriors can't doesn't appear to say. So what did

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they actually know and what did they actually discussed with
Kevin Durant and Kevin Durant's people, well, that devil is
in those details, even fairly mum about that, beyond conveying
some things that they say were said that Rich climate
I mean, that was the first time I had heard
Cursey anything like that yesterday saying that rich Climan was
in on the conversations and they had their own doctor

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and it was a collaborative process. I've also heard from
players and people around saying that that Durant knew the risks.
Now the devil was in those details. How were the
riffs conveyed? You know it was he actually told, Hey,
there's about a coin flip chance that your achilles just
explodes out there. I don't think he was told that.
If he was told that, then I suppose, Hey, that

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was the risk he wanted to take, and it's an
incredible risk that he took um. But right now it's
pretty murky. It's pretty murky, and you haven't seen a
blame game take place. It's been mostly from the outside.
But when something goes this wrong and there's a career
on the line and there's this much money on the line,
I'd assumed that you will see more leak out going forward.

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And the thing I don't buy into the thing. I
don't believe us much as I respect and like Bob Meyers,
and much as I respect and like Steve Kerr when
they say that it's just this world that looks for
blame and looks for the blame game, I look at
it as okay, but things happen for reasons. A space

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shuttle doesn't explode and we go, oh, you know space shuttles. No,
we tend to want to look into that and figure
that out and go, okay, well, there's an o ring malfunction.
This happened for a reason. Kyle Lowry didn't roll into
Kevin Durant's leg, right, he stepped on a floorboard and
his achilles exploded. He didn't step on a land mine,
you know. So it seems like there was an air

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somewhere along the line in that process. How that air occurred,
I do not know presently, but it seems like something
went wrong. Yeah, I would Uh. The only place you
can get away with that is baseball, right where when
you can't explain something, you go, well, that's baseball. That,
that's baseball. We described to luck off of what we

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don't understand. We just say it's luck or a freak injury,
and then you learn about it and you go, oh, actually,
that's that's why that is. That's not just random luck,
it's not just the gods. It's it's it's it's physics.
Ethan I thought actually spoken with one of the top surgeons, uh,
the guy I grew up um uh playing playing basketball with,

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and he said he thinks they looked at it and
they it's it's really hard to tell an m R. I.
So usually you go with the He felt like he
got kicked it is an Achilles, and that the the
doctors had to know on some level there's the possibility
it was already torn, and like, if it's already torn,
he's gonna have to have it fixed to begin with.
So I do. I I just wonder what he knew

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when he knew it, and and what his decision was like,
and I I do. I do think where the Warriors
protected themselves was they did let Kevin Durant have his
own doctor. And by the way, what did you know him?
When did you know? It? Is one of the reasons
why I had some frustration with the Bob Meyers press conference,
and I don't doubt his sincerity. I don't doubt the emotionality.

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And to be clear, it's an emotional event. It's awful
what happened. But when he's talking about people poking at
him and he's one of the most misunderstood people and
the people being mean to him on the internet, and
I think to myself, I mean, this is what the
everybody debates on Twitter, I suppose, but it's just not
relevant to what everybody wants to know right now. They

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want to know what your organization knew. They want to
know when you knew it. They want to know how
this happened. The beating the reputation of Kevin Durant is
one thing. We can do that another day. I I
it just doesn't It seemed to be a distraction to me.
I guess that's what I'm saying. You've obviously caught some
flak for when you're writing a book about this team
and you've covered them and you've talked about you know

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what people around Kevin Durant have said, how does this
change or what does this do to the decisions he
has in front of him this offseason? I mean, it
changes them it should completely changes the chessboard. Suddenly he's
not joining a team fully functional and ready to make

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that team a contender. You know, maybe he joins a
team that wants to tak for a year. Who knows,
uh it's and and he could easily opt into a
massive one year deal. Joe Lacobs died with the Warriors.
Think the Warriors then might get an injured player exception
for around eight million after look into all that. Uh,

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you know, if you wanted to go that way and
rehab with the Warriors. Does he want to rehab with
the Warriors? I mean, he seemed pretty keen on getting
the next chapter of his career going. So I think
right now it's all in flux. I would be a
little surprised if he if he opted in for a year,
I I would be if I had to guess, I
would think four year deal. Elsewhere that would just be

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the guests. But it throws all of it in the confusion.
It shakes up the snow gloat to be sure. Yeah,
and because as you point out, like now, I don't
think he was going to the nets, but the nets
are in wind now mode. The Knicks would be the
tanking possibility, but again like do you want do you
want a team? I get that you've wanted that, and
then it gives you a chance to continue to load up.

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But you know, I just I think there's a ton
of inherent risk there. And then you know, the Warriors
they could offer him the super Max? Could they not?
I mean could could? Could he? Could he not? Resign?
You opt out and then resign with them and say like, look,
this is where this is where I belong, as I
think people have seen his intrinsic value through injury on

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and and when he was not on the floor, unlike
at times previously during his run. All right, let's let's
talk about tonight. You and I are both kind of aligned,
and you're like, it just it's hard to see a
path for two more wins for the Warriors, considering it's
not just k D. It's Looney still, you know, nursing

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this broken cartilage in his cartero collar bone. It's Andrew
Bogett being ever banged up. It's Andre Goodala, you know,
finding a way to limp to the finish line. It's
the age and despair of that bench, and it's Steph
seemingly has to be worn down and then Clay playing
with a gimpi hamstring. On the other hand, it's game six,

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Clay is MR Game six. What what do you think
of the possibility of would they be a their their
favor but it feels like an upset if they in tonight. Yeah,
I think that's just the result of being a public
team playing a Canadian team. Uh. Look the sports movie
part of me or a part of me the like
sports movies goes Oh yeah, the Warriors for the reasons

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we mentioned where the Raptors were demoralized. But look, man,
they hit what twenty three pointers in the last game
and barely won that one. Uh, they're running out of
two way players. Um, they just have less. They have
less than the Raptors do. And so obviously what would
need to happen is Steph and Clay need to play well.

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You need some of those Uh you need some of
those extra three pointers from wide open Draymond Green and
Andrea Goodala and finally, maybe the most precarious aspect, you
need Boogie Cousins to play well. Steve Kerr was sitting
with him going over film yesterday at practice. For a
long time, I think I think Kerr is trying to
squeeze out two final good Boogie Cousins performances, and with him,

(24:58):
especially back from injury, it's been flip a coin. You
you just don't know what you're getting. So yeah, there's
certainly a path to them winning. It's just hard to
bet on it, even though so many people apparently are
amazing stuff. Ethan Strouss download the House of Strouss podcast
as he's gonna like go back down memory lane a

(25:19):
second time here at Oracle as Game six will take
place tonight. If the Warriors win, they'll firce two Game seven.
Last question is this, it does feel like the pressure
is on the Raptors though, right like and I know,
like in athletics, I'm not sure pressure matters all that.
Once you start playing, it's just a game. You're not
necessarily understanding the ramifications of everything. But it does feel

(25:43):
like the Warriors they're they're still kind of playing with
a little bit of house money or am I am
I crazy? Because it's at home and the Warriors can't
lose three home games in the NBA Finals. I think
you're right. The more pressures on the Raptors at this point.
You know that they're they're the team that could potentially
lose this, and then they've got the three one lead
lost looming over them. Um so I think you're right

(26:05):
about that. There is a little bit of house money
and so maybe the Warriors will play loose because of that.
But we do live in the moment. The Warriors, they
are technically favored, and hey, man, if Steph step has
a terrible game, people are gonna kill him for it, right.
They're not gonna just say, hey, you guys weren't favored,
and uh and and and just set that aside. So
there's some pressure on the Warriors, but I agree there's

(26:27):
a little bit more on the Raptors. Great stuff, Ethan
enjoy Oracle one last time and thanks for joining us
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um that Jay Williams has come out and said that
Kevin Durant was misdiagnosed before Game five, which is essentially

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what I told you. A couple of surgeons and especially
one notable surgeon essentially said to me, which is they
thought they they had to be pushed by the hope
that it wasn't an achilles. And it's really hard to
tell if there is a slight tear of an achilles
when looking at the m R I. But if you
go by what Kevin Durant originally said and his initial

(27:37):
reaction and your evaluation, there should have been a sense
that that Achilles was partially torn, that the one one
point to be made. And we don't know if this
was related to Kevin Durant, and as people is, if
the thing was torn, it actually didn't matter that it ruptured.
Unless it's the very slightest of tears. It doesn't repair itself.

(27:57):
It's not the way that tendon, any tendant, but specifically
that tendon works generally, Jibby and large surgery is the option,
the only option and you're still out nine months, whether
it fully ruptures as it as it did on Monday
night or not. Zachlow on a podcast with Howard Beck

(28:20):
on the Third Team being involved in the Anthony Davis
trade young ish good players available for number four. The
first name, uh I thought of this, Zaklow, was zach Levine,
because I think the Bulls might do that. I think
about what the Pelicans would be throwing out there if
they had Zach Levine, Drew Holiday, a, Lonzo Ball, and

(28:44):
all U c l A backcourt right. Uh And and
to like U c l A mal contents like Drew
Holiday hated his time at u c l A because
he didn't get to play the point. Zach zach Levine
hated his time in u c l A because he
didn't get to play the point, didn't start, wasn't a
shotmaker either. Alonzo Ball had a great run at at

(29:06):
u c l A. But Zach Lavine with those two
others along with Alonzo Ball, Uh, maybe Reeves Nelson could
play the four Reeves Nelson. We gotta love Nelson from
the Peanut Gallery. But MAT's that's a great line, by
the way, great great line. All right, coming up, next,
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site of the U S Open. Currently, Ricky Fowler is
five under a top of the leader board through seventeenth
hole seventeen holes, so's he's on the eighteen t I

(30:33):
believe the man who has dominated the eighteen eighteenth hole
joins us as we play a game. This is game
time side on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Dan Buyer, of course,
played this course a couple of weeks ago. How did
you do it? Eighteen? It was a stellar nine? Yes,

(30:56):
a stellar nine, So okay, what is it? What is
the eighteen to it? So it's a par five that
goes along the cove if you will hear at Pebble Beach.
And I pushed my tea shot way right into the rock,
so like par five? How how long did it play?
When when you were playing yards into the wind, So
you went and broke out driver because that's some people.

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I'm gonna hit the big the big dog, And I
was like, I am not hitting it into the ocean.
That was going to happen, not in the ocean. And
you did went straight right, No, went straight right. So
I got caught between the two bunkers in the rough
head to hack out, but didn't get it out of
the rough. So my third shot was also then hacking
out of the rough. And then my fourth shot I
put in the bunker, sculled one into the other bunker

(31:40):
in the end to put it up, got out of
there with a big fat nine. It was I felt
felt like Benny Hill music should been playing if they
if they ran, if they ran, your shots like in
fast forward, back to back to back would have been
Benny Hill music. Yeah, at least I felt bad when
I was describing when we were out there earlier, just describing,
and then this is I hit the shot, and then

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I hit the next shot from here, and then I
hit that shot from here. Usually you want to have
short stories when you're telling where you shot from the course.
That did not happen to me on eighteen. But hopefully,
if I'm fortunate enough to ever play Pebble Beach again,
I have got a goal to beat, and that's nine,
and hopefully I'd be able to do that. Should have
gone seven iron and seven exactly exactly. Today we got

(32:22):
a game called al right, guess who dug missed a
one ft put today on the third hole in the
first round of the nine the US Open. That would
be Phil Michelson. Yeah, that is the case. Michelson missed.
I mean, maybe one ft is generous for for how
close that putt was could end up costing him. He's

(32:44):
currently in a tie for forty thirties one over par,
wrapping up his round with in the group with Dustin Johnson.
But yet Phil Michelson missing a one ft put earlier
today on the third hole. Yeah, well, you know why
they called it golf, don't you Why because all the
other four the words were taking all right, the audience

(33:05):
love that one, by the way. On the par four
th three putt bogie for me, So yeah it was.
It was a g I R a green in regulation.
But then I three putted. Oh well, alright, one for
one here on guests, who guests? Who Tiger Woods is
old caddy Stevie Williams is caddying for this week at
the US Open. Ricky Fowler. You know it would be

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Jason Days, Australian who has said that he's underachieved in
his career, just one major championship, pulling Stevie out of retirement.
Of course, Stevie was on the bag for Adam Scott
when he won Masters. But Stevie Williams back this week,
but not on Tiger's bag, not on Adam Scott's but
on Jason Days. He still in the spins. Does he
still get the vertigo, not since that's a good memory

(33:50):
was four years ago at Chambers Bay when he collapsed
in the ninth hole. That was that was quite a
scary scene there. But I don't know if he's still
battling it, but it wasn't issue. It's interesting because Chambers
Bay is most remembered for Dustin Johnson choking that thing away, right,
and then and the gravel greens and then you know
the gravel greens and you know, choking and then um,

(34:11):
what's his name was the commentator? The shark was the
and no nobody goes like, hey, you know what it's
like to choke this thing? Uh? I think it was
the throw to him and then he said like there
are no words or like you know, like that's actually
what you're paid to do is put words and sentences together.

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If anybody, if anybody could relate to what was going on, Yeah,
may have been Greg Norman. Guess who. Doug is, a
soon to be free agent in the NBA that said
he would take less to stay with this current team
if it meant building a winner. Kemba Walker that Doug
is on the point there. Kemba Walker can get a
five year two hundred and twenty one max the supermax

(34:54):
deal from the Hornets, or he could get a four
year deal with the hundred and forty million dollars from
another team, but maybe the supermax what max out. Charlotte
says that he'd be willing to take less if they
could build a winner around him and buzz City. But
the problem is that they really don't. Even if he
takes less, they still don't. They gotta find somebody takes
some other contracts off their books because they really can't

(35:15):
be free agent players for another year or two. It's
like two thousand twenty one when some stuff comes off
their books, so they have issues. I don't think he's
resigned there. I think he's saying all the right things
and putting it strictly in Michael Jordan's court, But I
think he already knows that that Jordan's is just They're
just tapped out financially. Guess who has the longest Stanley

(35:38):
Cup titled droughts in the NHL, Now that the Blues
have claimed they Stanley Cup, I'm gonna go with the
Buffalo Sabers. No, no close there, at forty eight seasons.
The answer would be the Toronto Maple Leafs. That may believe. Yeah,
the Maple Leafs won the season before the Blues came
into the league. So Doug Waits got them to the
finals one year, right, didn't he didn't wait get them

(36:00):
to the finals one year. I'm trying to think it
could could have been. Yeah, maybe it's been a long time,
fifty one seasons. Vancouver also a drought of I believe
forty eight years as well, along with the Sabers. But
it's it's realize Vancouver has been a league that long. Yeah,
it's it's uh. As a stained would say, it's been

(36:21):
a wow for Vancouver that that songs about drug addiction,
but still will it relates? Some song was never overplayed.
Guess who was offered seventy eight hundred dollars to shoot
Red Sox legend David Ortiz. That's kind of a tricky one.
A word you want? I have no idea these suspects

(36:42):
who they have in custody? The answer hundred American dollars. Yeah, sorry, sorry, Sam,
I jumped the gun of that one. Seventy hundred dollars
to shoot David Ortiz was the bounty. That's it. I mean,
I guess. I guess if you're gonna off somebody did
Dominican Republic, it's it's a better deal. It was like, yeah,

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Still the question becomes, the question becomes, was he having
an affair with a drug dealer's wife? If so, that
is that is a that takes some lower intestinal fortitude.
Let me tell you right, like, you couldn't have slept
with somebody whose wife, whose husband is just like some
average dude. It had to be the drug. Like you know,

(37:28):
of the people that are untouchable, drug dealer's wife is
usually off the list. They should do a TV show
about like the average guy dealing or you know, selling drugs.
There's like ninety of them now, Like after haven't been
in the Stanley Cup finals since nineteen sixty that's my bad.
The Vancouver Canucks have been in several times, including Stanley

(37:49):
Cup title. Yeah I got. I mistakenly said I thought
Doug Wade was with them, but he was messing with
somebody else. Uh finally, Doug, guess who on the crew
accidentally went into the women's bathroom here at the US Open.
I'm gonna go with you. Yeah, it was Listen they've
got because you're so used to hitting off the women's teeth. No, no, no.

(38:11):
The the font on the doors is like forty eight
font of saying like enter or exit, and it completely
disguised the figure of the man or woman. At least
it didn't draw my attention. Walked in, I'm like, why
are there no stalls? And then it quickly dawned on
me wrong place, turned around and it was across the hall.
It's on the other the other side. So for your knowledge,

(38:34):
it's on the other side. It's on the other side.
I'm gonna follow all the rest of the dudes in.
That's generally what I'm gonna gonna do. Generally. Nobody said
anything either. Ryan Music's on his phone. There are some
there are some people. There are some people that are
anti porta pottiest porta potti people. I am not one
of them. Occasionally they're at these things. They have these
like luxury porta potties which are kind of amazing, kind

(38:56):
of amazing. Check out all right, Dan Buyer, who's played
this course of us the update top of the hour
as to the leaderboard here live at pel Be to
the site of the USU, which you can see on
Fox Sports one currently coming up next. Three time NBA
champion and agent B. J. Armstrong joins the show. What
does he think of the entirety of the Kevin Durant situation?
And we'll talk about tonight next to The Doug Gotland Show.

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live at Pebble Beach, site of the US Open. Ricky
Fowler post a sixties six. He's now in the clubhouse
with with the lead. So Ricky Fowler taking a first
day lead. I believe that is his first the first
time he's ever had the lead. At the end of
his first day at a major. I could be wrong.

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We'll we'll double check on that one. Of course, he
has yet to win a major. Wildly popular golfer. We're
about an hour away, I believe an hour away from
Tiger Woods teeing off. The two o'clock start time, so
um but early. The courses played fair. The weather is
kind of perfect for this kind of golf, right. It's

(40:47):
not so hot and dry like it was a couple
of days ago, where the greens gets super fast, but
it's also not raining, not moist, not misty. It's just
cool and breezy, but very much playable. Phil Mickelson stay
one footer on the first hole, making Phil Mickelson, who
people want him to be the everyman, really feeling like

(41:08):
he is the everyman. He's at one over uh, lining
up a birdie putt about to end uh the his
uh his his first trip out on the ninth hole
and he's I don't know, fifty or so yards away
and he just misses. So will end up one over

(41:28):
through nine holes? Um all right, Tonight is the night
of the NBA Finals. Game six could be the final
game uh NBA basketball game of the year. Although we
felt like it could be in Game five. Game five
gave us Kevin Durant for about eleven and a half minutes,
then he kind of tragically tore his achilles tendon and

(41:48):
somehow the Warriors end up the Warriors end up winning
the game. And so instead of not having not having
uh any more games at or as we thought, now
there's one more, could there be one additional game? You
got the pressure that's now on the Toronto Raptors, having

(42:11):
seemingly felt that the trophy was in their hands after
that twelve to two run before the time out that
was called by Nick Nurse. How do they respond to
to to what had to be a devastating loss. How
the Warriors respond to the devastating loss of Kevin Durant
and just the personnel of not having k d who
opened the floor up for their two stars. And then

(42:31):
you got Game six, and we've seen Clay Thompson perform
magnificently in these very same situations in the past, a
guy who's won a couple of NBA titles. He's also
an NBA agent with the Washerman Group. You know, Derrick Rose,
JaVale McGee, Manuel Moody, A Josh Jackson and you can
hear him on the Pure Hoops podcast. He's b J
Armstrong kind of have to spend some time this year

(42:51):
on the Doug Gatlup Show on Fox Sports Radio. B J,
how are you, Uh, Doug, I'm doing great and thank
you for having me as a gear. Uh. Take me
back to when you were playing in the NBA finals.
Of course this was this was early on in the
championship runs. You know of the bulls and I thought
the first championship run that was there's like three different uh,

(43:14):
three different kind of eras, right, Like people remember early
on Paxson hitting the threes, then you hitting the threes
than Steve Kerr hitting the threes. When you watch the
NBA Finals, what are you? What? What? What comes to
your mind in terms of your own history. Well, the
thing is that you when you have an opportunity to
play in the NBA Finals, is one how lucky you

(43:36):
have You're sharing that moment. You know, you dream of
that moment as a as a youngster, and you know
of whether you're in your backyard or playing, you know,
on the playground, you always dream of having those moments.
You have a chance to compete for a championship and
to actually go out there and do it. Is this
really a dream come true? So every time I, you know,

(43:58):
watch this, I you know, not only skilled and hard
work and all those things. Player play a factor, but
you have to have luck, and you have to have
your health and being at the right place at the
right time. And and for me is being able when
I was playing. Uh is to be able to play
with players who are playing in their prime years to
actually play that game at that level. And uh so,

(44:20):
uh it was great times and uh it was really
a dream come true from a for a young kid
from de Trade, Michigan and just love playing basketball. Uh.
What did you think of Kevin Rant's decision to come
back and play in Game five but before the injury?
What as as a for a player and as an agent,
what did you think? Well, you know the thing, Doug is,

(44:45):
you know, being a player working as an executive now
working as an agent. You know, I love all these kids,
and I always see the person behind the uniform, and uh,
I've had to make those decisions at the player myself. Um,
meaning when you have injuries, whether players should or shouldn't
come back. The one thing I will say about you

(45:08):
know now that we know what actually happened and transpired
throughout this process, is that there is an institutional knowledge
that is gained by playing in the NBA of working
in the NBA, and that is something that you can't
this credit and that is something that has to be
taken into account. Is that playing and gaining that experience.

(45:35):
You know, my biggest question to Kevin would be the followers,
what did he have to gain? What was he trying
to prove? I'm sorry, what was he trying to prove?
And who was he trying to prove? This too? But
this is always that's kind of always been his thing, though.
I get it, I get it, I get it. Uh.

(45:58):
The reason he the only reason to go to Golden State,
or his reason to go to Golden State was He's like, look,
I think I'm the best player, and the only way
to show the world in the best player is to
play against Lebron James in the finals. And he got
that opportunity and twice he had the better team and
in many ways he was the better man. He was
the two time finals MVP, and even then he didn't
feel like people really bought into him being the best

(46:19):
player on Earth until he went on this incredible run
before he got hurt. And then he gets hurt, people like, yeah,
well they might be better without him, they're not. Um,
so like this is kind of it actually fits into
who he is, isn't it that he wants to prove
to everybody? And that could be true, But you know
what the bigger question is as an ex player in me,

(46:43):
as an ex player that I was very fortunate to
play as then next and you know, being around the game,
how do you not play for a month and then
in the NBA finals, especially with a lower extremity injury? Right? Um?
And I remember Doug and I'm sure there and I'm

(47:05):
sure you had an opinion as well when I went
through the same scenario with the Derrick Rose and he
came back from an injury, and there were so many
opinions out there. But the truth of the matter is
is that it's not just the physical return. There's an
emotional return psychologically and mentally. You don't know where the

(47:27):
these kids heads are when they sustained an injury. You know,
you just don't know. And I don't think there is
a right or wrong answer. But the one thing that
I always tried when I went with this through that
scenario in that situation with Derek was you know what,
you just have to be true to yourself but respect

(47:48):
the game. Like you don't return from that type of
injury with no conditioning because there was nothing he could
physically do. It's not like he could run and get
on a bike and and maintain his condition. You need
to come back and play in the NBA Finals. So
again I get it. I think his heart was in
the right place. I think, you know what, I admire

(48:10):
players who want to play right. I admire who he
is and what he's achieved. But at some point you
know that there's nothing really you can do to bypass
the things that you have to do to prepare to
play in that game. That's why you go to training
camp for money. I've tried to be Jaft, tried to

(48:32):
explain to people, and this is this is kind of
support your point on Derrick Rose. Uh, you know, representing
him when he's with the Bulls is like people don't understand,
like it's one thing to come back and play a
basketball game. It's the other thing to come back and
play an NBA game, then to play a playoff game.
The level of intensity is you're you're literally going from
zero to a hundred. It's it's like pulling onto It's
like it's like merging on a freeway where there's no

(48:54):
ramp up in speed and and you're on the autobahn
all of a a suddenly, all of a sudden, Right that
that's what it is. You know. The one difference is
he had played in the playoffs. But yes, I I
completely understand that. Do you think, like, look, I think
that the doctors had to at least suspect this was
a it was a possibility that was there was a

(49:15):
terror in there, and as I've been told, if there's
a tear in there, you're gonna have to have it
fixed anyway. Do you think there's any way that he
knew that this was in fact a potential risk and
he still went headlong into the wind. Well, I I think, again,
annoying what I know him working with players, I have

(49:39):
to believe that Kevin was made aware of everything that
was with going on with his body, and you know,
and I have the good fortune of knowing Kevin and
his family so right, um and and weighing the risk,
so I have to give him the ultimate respect. In
the end, I don't think there's anyone that could force

(50:01):
a kid, especially who's achieved and knows his body better
than anyone else, without him having the information available. Right,
It's like you can make recommendations, but ultimately it's his call,
it's his decision. And you know, Kevin is he knows
his body and knows what he's capable of doing. And

(50:21):
you know, and and I just go back to examples.
I remember when Michael Jordan got hurt when he broke
his foot and against the doctors Wishes and then the
franchise the Bulls again he went out and played and
he gave us probably one of the greatest performances and memory.
In the playoffs against the Celtics, he goes out for

(50:42):
three points and does the think so again it's it's
so hard done. But again, I want to give the
respect to Kevin because I feel bad for the person,
because this is a decision that maybe, you know what,
who knows how he's gonna feel fifteen or twenty years
from now. But I want to respect him because we

(51:04):
all feel bad, you know, matter no matter what, when
a kid gets hurt and the kid has to sustains
the injury like this. I mean, you know, thank goodness,
with all of the technology that we have, we know
he'll have an opportunity to come back and play against
and play the game at the highest level. And so
I just want to give him their respect and the
time he needs and and hopefully has a speedy recovery

(51:26):
and gets back on the court, because you know, the
game misses him, and he's done so much for the game,
and uh, you know, he's given us so much now
it's of course to give back to him. B G.
I'm starring joining us here. Doug Otli Show, Fox Sports Radio.
I've heard people compare Kauai to m J, and I
think their logic is, like m J, he wins at

(51:48):
both at both ends. He's unafraid to guard the other
team's best player that uh you know obviously, the big hands,
the unbelievable mid range game, the desire to take and
make the big shots at the end of games. I
just don't see it because Jordan was a guard who
made himself into a great post player, made himself into

(52:09):
a great perimeter shooter, whereas it's kind of the opposite
with Kauai, who was a big guy who's made himself
into more of a guard. Nonetheless, they they're both incredible,
they both like to go right right, and they both
performed well at the highest level. You were there, like
no one can give a better representation of what it
was like to compete with Michael Jordan's than people like you. Do.

(52:33):
You see the comparison, you know, Doug, I I'm always
very neary if you will to start comparing players, especially
in different eras. You know, I I had a chance
to see a young Michael Jordan's as a college kid,
collegiate kid, and I think, like many, no one knew

(52:54):
that he was that explosive as an offensive player. You
can say the same about Kawhi Leonard. Yeah. Defensively, Kawai
Leonard affects the game not only to the man he's guarding.
So he affects the game because he has the ability
that all great defenders have. He has ability to recover

(53:17):
this young man that we're saying right now, Kauai is
really playing the game at an all time high, and
the thing that's amazing about him is that defensively his
game was far superior than his offensive game. And what
he's doing, Doug is he's affecting every phase of the game,
and then it's affecting the bottom line. This is the

(53:39):
first time, Doug, that I've seen a great defensive team
like the Warriors have to compromise their defense to just
deal with one player. Yeah, and Doug, he's really that good.
He's technically speaking. When I watched him play, Doug, he's
really that good. He's a great offensive player. Not only

(53:59):
now on the rumeter which he's shooting the three ball.
You can argue that he's shooting the three ball better
than Jordan's, but he's strong enough to play from the post.
He has huge hands, he can play, you know, wherever
you need to put him on the floor, and he's fearless.
Now has he done it to the same level and

(54:20):
length of time with Jordan's No, But Doug, what he's
doing this year with the team that he has, and
and we know he's not a percent healthy, let's not
to get that. It's not like he came here and
he's playing with you know, another Hall of Fame type talent.
What he's done, Doug has caught the notice of everyone

(54:42):
in this league and anyone who's played the game. I
don't care what error that young man now affects the
entire game. He's just not just a great offensive player.
He's just not just a great perimeter player. He's just
not just a defensive This young man makes the right play.
He takes on the double team, he rebounds the ball,
he guards your your best perimeter player, he guards Draymond Green,

(55:06):
he does it all. I don't know what position he is,
but I know he is strong enough, he's athletic enough,
and he's skilled enough to play in any era. And
he's gonna cause some problems because physically he's something to
deal with. And I definitely see the comparisons because it's
impact on the game right now. He's one of those
players that have an impact throughout the forty minutes that

(55:29):
a game is being played and you have to do
something with it. You can't just guard him with one player.
So I definitely see the comparisons and understand it because
technically speaking, does he's playing the game, it's as high
as anyone I've seen play, uh, since I've been in
this league. You know, it's interesting, is this NBA Finals
on some levels does remind me of your championship run

(55:52):
with the Bulls. Jordan's third Championship when you guys beat
the Sun's people, people, I think people don't remember. You
guys went out, won the first two on the road,
came home it was back to three to you. You
lost two of three at home and then on the
last second shot end up beating the Suns on the road.
You won all three road games. And I've talked to

(56:14):
other Formables they were like, yeah, it's like the least
discussed part about our championship teams were we always won
on the road. Why was it easier for you guys
to win on the road than other championship teams. Well,
when you're on the when you're playing in the Championship,
you know, when you're playing in the Championship Series, the

(56:34):
hardest place to play is at home. You know. I
I expected, just because of my experience of playing in
the Championship UH Series, I expected the Toronto Raptors to
lose Game five, not because they weren't going to be prepared,
but because of you have to deal with this. When
you walk into the arena in a close out game,

(56:56):
all of the fans and the whole arena is there
to celebrate. So when you walk into the arena, there's
balloons in the ceiling, there's confetti, you see the champagne
sitting there on the outside of the locker room, and
you forget that the other team is seeing the same
thing that you're seeing. And that was the first time
that the Raptors on the other than Kauai and in Green,

(57:21):
understand how much that is. You have to overcome that.
So we were better on the road because we didn't
have to deal with that. You didn't have to deal
with seating arrangements for your family, you didn't have to
deal with, you know, trafficking detours because you know police
are rerouting, you know, just for for all the things
that you have to deal with when you have a

(57:42):
close out game, and it's just easier to get on
the bus, go to the game and be ready to play.
You can eliminate all of the distractions. So I expect
this team to be much more focused. I expect the
team to ninth to come out with a different energy.
But I also know that the Warriors, because they are
a champ and ship caliber team, that they will be
prepared for this moment as well. They don't want to

(58:04):
lose and watch another team have to celebrate on their
on their home court. So I think it will be
a well played game. Um. I expect the Warriors to
to really leave it out here on the floor, and
they are the defending champions, and I think tonight should
be a treat for all of US basketball fans. Um.
Last thing, Um, I gotta ask you the final shot

(58:27):
of that nine Finals, John packs that hits you guys
are both you guys are both on the floor at
the same time. Right, Paul goes to Scottie Pippen, who
passed to Horace Grant, and instead of going up for
a contested lamp, he kicks it out to John Paxson,
who knocks down to three with three point nine seconds remaining.
If you go back and watch the YouTube, you basically
did a steph Curry right. You knew it was going

(58:50):
in before it went in the opposite side of the court. Now,
I did you trip? Did you fall down and celebrate? What?
What were you doing? Well? You know, it was like
you know every now and then, you know, a coach
or designer play and and look when you're playing, the
coach design to play and you hope that it works.
I just can't believe that he was open it was like,

(59:12):
you know, he was like, hey, guys, we're all gonna
come down and play. And then Michael, we're gonna get
the shot and we're gonna get the proper spacing and Michael,
you do what you need to do to give us
a chance to win this game, and we're gonna win
it either with you making the shot or you know,
going in the overtime. And it was a It was

(59:35):
the weirdest thing, like everything just went according to how
he was drawing up on the board and I just
was like everything was perfect, and I just fell over.
If you wanted, I just fell over. It's the funniest thing.
And I don't know why I did it. And John
Paxton and I we laugh about it from time to time.
But it was one of those moments like I just
couldn't believe it worked. It was like, and uh, you know, goodness,

(01:00:00):
don hit the shot. It was a great moment for us.
But it was one of those things where you draw
something up and it actually worked, and I just couldn't
believe it. And and I just kinda if you see it,
I just kind of like roll over and I knew
it was going in. I don't know what I was doing.
Who cares balling in the basket. It was absolute perfection.
B J. Thanks so much for joining us here it
with your insight and all your memories. Appreciate me, our

(01:00:22):
guest and Fox Sports Radio, so thank you for having
me to appreciate it. All right, We'll check in with
Bill Platsky, The l A Times and Fox Sports Tradio next.
Does he think that? Does he think the Lakers should part?
Also with Kyle Kuzma, go all in to get Anthony Davis,
last year's a legend in l A. Will get his
thoughts on the Lakers potential trade. That's next. Be sure
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(01:01:30):
A Times columnists. You can also hear him here on
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You wake up on Sunday morning, click on Fox Sports
Radio here plats Key alongside Mike Harmon. That's six am
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getting us ready for the final round of the US
Open and potentially potentially um an NBA Finals Game seven

(01:01:52):
in Toronto. Potentially, but we got game six tonight. Bill
Plaski joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Let me
just ask you about Game five. What did you think
of Kevin before it happened he got hurt? What do
you think of Kevin Rant's decision to come back and play. No,
I thought I thought it was a decision he had.
It was made obviously in concert with kids doctors, not

(01:02:13):
just the Golden State doctors. And it's just sports. I
don't know why we can't ever just say it's just sports.
Things happened. Life sucks. It's unfair. That's the way why
somebody had somebody had to be blamed in all this.
I mean, you know, and I went through the whole
Achilles thing with Kobe Bryant, and you just don't Nobody
was more prepared to play than Kobe, and nobody was
more cautious about the Achilles and Kobe and it's still blew.

(01:02:35):
It was gonna blow at some point. It's gonna blow.
It's gonna blow. And the guy, I mean, I don't know,
I don't know how you feel, but play and blame
is absurd in all this. Well, I look, I think
this is a lot like I'm gonna disagree you from
from this standpoint, we the negative word is excuses and
the more positive word is explanation, right like, And I

(01:02:59):
think that's so I don't necessarily know if you have
to have somebody to blame, although in sports we do.
Actually we watch film, we'll signed blame for what went wrong.
Even coaches can say we don't have to blame somebody. Yeah, Like,
well that's what you do when you watch film who's
screwed up? You know. On the other hand, I we
maybe not need excuses, We just need an explanation. Did
he know that this was a possibility? Did they misdiagnose

(01:03:23):
it because it And I agree with you, I think
you're gonna these people are like, well, he played twelve
straight minutes, Like who cares If you're gonna blow your
achilles tenant, it's gonna go. It has nothing to do
if you played twelve straight minutes where you played six
minutes and set and then six minutes and six minutes
on after six minutes off, Like that doesn't matter. What
what I want to know is did the doctors look
at the m R I and they're like, maybe I

(01:03:45):
don't know, and it might have been torn anyway, and
so it might not not have mattered. I want an explanation.
I don't think that's laying blame as much as finding
somebody who can explain to me if the injury had
previously occurred or if this was something completely different from
the calf injury. Yeah. I think the only explanation that
would fast for anybody would be if if is it
a was it a partially torn achilles and wasn't gonna

(01:04:08):
rupture at some point, but we don't know that. There's
so much we don't know. And unless the doctors were devious,
and again his doctors were part of the process. So uh,
you know, My point is apparently everybody thought it was fine,
and life happens and it stinks, and that's just the
way it is. I just don't you know, I don't
know why everybody and everybody blaming well the media forced
him to play and we didn't. We didn't force anybody

(01:04:29):
to play. That's ridiculous. He he wanted to he wanted
to play, he wanted to try it, he wanted to
go out on his own terms, and he did. And
uh and now you know his life is changing and
it's terrible. But I just don't know if we can
lacking the information that you just were were putting out
to I don't know if we can just say, if
we can even explain anything right now. Somethings that sports
just happened. It's just happened. Okay, Let's let's get to

(01:04:52):
the newest, latest, and greatest with the l A Lakers,
a team you have covered four years for the l
A Times. Bill Platski here on Fox Sports Radio Weekend
here Sunday morning, nine am Eastern, six o'clock in the
morning Pacific time. The latest is they've re engaged in
trade talks. They appear to be some sort of the
leader right where it's and what's being reported is they're

(01:05:13):
willing to give up Alonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram and the
fourth pick or find a trade for that fourth pick
a third team to get a better player in the deal.
So it's not all kids in this. So there's some
money also kind of because they have to equal out
the salaries as well, but not give up. Kyle Kuzma,
what do you think of that? From the deal? Make

(01:05:35):
the make the trade already? What are they waiting for?
I heard it's Kuzma. Also heard Rich Paul who is
who is, as you probably have guessed, is running the
whole show here. Rich Paul is reluctant to give up
to the number four pick because it's his guy. It's
gonna be his guy. That available guard Leonard Derres Garland Garland, Yeah, yeah,
Deres Garland, So it's gonna be his guy. So, um,

(01:05:57):
he's looking to do that, and that's ridiculous. The Lakers
have a shelf life of Lebron James about one or
two years. We discussed on on the show before. They
need to go for it now, good or bad, like
him or not. You've got to go for it now.
And if it takes Kyle Kuzman, it takes Kyle Kuzman.
He's not Kobe Bryant. He's a nice little player, but
he shouldn't be the roadblock to them getting Anthony Davis.

(01:06:17):
He shouldn't be a roadblock to them having a potential
to go back to the finals. He shouldn't. He should
This shouldn't be an issue. And again it's Rob Plinkol
and Rich Paul, you know, running the show where there.
I don't know what they're doing. The deal should have
been done by now. The Lakers have what it takes
to get the deal done. You're right, clearly they're the
leader in the clubhouse. Clearly Davis wants to sign here.
When once he comes here, they're gonna get him long term.

(01:06:39):
He'll be there if he'll be their leader for the
next ten years. Make the deal. What are they so?
And I know I know they love Kyle kuz He's
he's good off the court and all this stuff come on.
He's not Kobe Bryant. He doesn't have to be rant
the bill. I'm gonna disagree with you here. Listen, if
if they give up Ingram and Lonzo ball those are
two starting caliber players, and they're They're still both on

(01:07:01):
their rookie deals, although Ingram's rookie deal is up sooner,
uh than obviously. Alonzo ball um the idea of giving
up three starters and Kuzma. Of all the guys, Kuzma
Alonzo ball fit really well alongside Lebron James. Alonzo more
so defensively, but also is willingness to play without the
basketball and and Kuzma offensively, although he leaves something to

(01:07:23):
be desired defensively. Like I think, if you strip it down,
you trade too much when you have the leverage in
the deal, would be a massive mistake. They just don't.
They wouldn't have the money to go out and fill
out the roster with good enough people for those for
three other starting positions. I don't see it. If you
have two stars in this league, you can still around

(01:07:44):
the rest. You know that, Doug and and this is
this is only all right. So let's say they don't
make the deal. You said they have all the leverage.
Let's say they don't make the deal. Let's say they're
sitting there in the middle of July. They're not the members,
They're not the leader at any free agent derby here.
There's no free agent that is leaned towards coming to
the Lakers that could change the Lakers. So they're they're
they're they're good. There's a decent chance, and I get

(01:08:05):
shut out of the free agent market. So what do
you do. Then you're sitting there in July ten and
you get the same team you have last year, you
have Kyle Kuzum, a big whoop. Lebron's not gonna be happy.
Lebron's not gonna want to stick around. They're not gonna
want to keep Lebron around. I don't know if they
have as much leberty as you think. I mean, I
just don't know. I think I think they need to
get this this guy in here now. And I don't
think they can wait till either. You know, said, well, okay,

(01:08:27):
they can wait in sign him as a free agent
next year. I don't think they can wait. I don't
think Lebron has got that much time left. Not that
there's there's not that much rubber left on the tires.
So I you know, I don't agree with this. I
think it's I don't like. Look they were with with
a roster that didn't make sense. Last year, they still
were a playoff team. And you have Alonzo coming off

(01:08:49):
his first offseason where he can actually is he is
he gonna stay healthy? Is he gonna stay healthy? To
come on? Does is he gonna stay healthy? And it's
Brandon Ingram with the blood clot. We don't know how
if they'll take and then Ingram they'll take. I think
it's not will they take Lonzo Ball? If they would
take Lonzo Ball, I just I just don't see any
anything where we're we're living in on a dream world
here about. I'm telling people in the everybody in the

(01:09:11):
NBA seems to like a Lonzo Ball except for the
except for the media and fans because they look at
a shooting percentage. I'm I'm telling you everybody else. So
also about I'm looking at games played, I'm looking at
Kinney stale. You know that you could just say the
same thing about Steph Curry his first two years in
the NBA. You could um not like this. I could

(01:09:32):
be wrong, I could stand corrected. I don't think Steph
strolled the kind of brittleness that this guy's shown and uh,
and it's and his shooting and his shooting issues. I
just don't think. I think the Lakers are living in
a dream world. And yeah, okay, so maybe they can
have the same team. Lebron wasn't interested last yeason. I'm
betting trusted this year with with with the same group
of guys who don't who don't by the way, you

(01:09:53):
keep the team intact. They still don't trust Lebron and
Lebron doesn't trust it and they don't like each other.
So you still got that, You still got that problem.
That is it. That is a fair point. Don't think
they have a leverage that you think they have. I
think they need to make the deal and make it now.
I think you're bidding a itst yourself. Celtics aren't offering more,
Nick's aren't offering more. There's nobody else who's offering more,
and Anthony Davis has made it clear that he wants

(01:10:15):
it done. To start. Two starters and a draft pick
is better than what what Indie got for Paul George.
It's better than what it's it's different than what San
Antonio got for for Kawhi Leonard. They got de Rosen,
but a huge contract, and Rose is a mid range guy.
They got de Rosen and they got who else? Um

(01:10:37):
uh the kid from from from Utah, whoa who barely plays.
So you get two starters under rookie control. I'm gonna discry.
I think it's actually a really good deal if you
include a third player or that draft pick, Bill Platshky.
But Bill, thanks so much for join us, and I
appreciate it. All right, Lakers, make the deal now, all right?
Make it now? No pressure from Bill plash Ky and

(01:10:57):
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see if there's a deal in place. Colin Coward thinks
Kevin Durant knew the risks the moment he stepped onto
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The U s AM Champions also goes to Oklahoma State.
Hit a golf ball? How would you describe the violence
in in that swing there, Dan Dan Buyer, I mean
that's a he's playing his tee off with brooks Kepka
here at what is this the one local star time?
The There was a seemed to be a severe amount

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of torque and the leg as he was making his
way through the down swing, just holding it on for
as much as you can. He's obviously playing with brooks Keepka,
who also mashes off the first tea and these guys
are hitting iron shots. Two seventy yards straightaway. My my
amateur thinking of breaking down the golf swing, like you

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can maybe swing or try to imitate a swing of
a professional, but the difference of what they do with
the club from about your right hip to impact is
what makes in my mind a majority of the difference
and so and Hovelan and any other professional art holding
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You can do a follow three, you could do the takeaway,
but it's from the hip to the ball that I
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this was calling Cowherd earlier today, discussing the idea that
Kevin Durant was tricked into playing in Game five. If
Katie comes back and they overcome a three one day deficit,
it changes his legacy forever. He is in the Lebron pantheon.
Like like there was a reward for this move. This
was not leading three to one. I don't think Katie

(01:14:13):
comes back leading three to one. I don't. I wouldn't
have advised it. Trailing three to one. Risk is your
re injure it. Reward is nobody can ever say you're
not needed. In Golden State. There's a lot of coddling
of NBA players. I think it's patronizing. They're grown ups,
they're smart guys. They know their brand, they know the risk.
Don't don't insinuate Kevin Durant can't figure out the risk.

(01:14:34):
Kevin Durant smart, he knew the risk. And Kevin Duran's
got a hundred million dollar net worth. He's made six
or seven massive Silicon Valley investments. Kevin doesn't need the
money Kevin set for the rest of his life. But
the reality is it's called risk and reward. There was
a huge reward for Kevin Durant here playing massive. Well.

(01:14:54):
I just think, and you can download the All Ball podcast,
which is available iTunes wherever you download podcasts. I just think,
like we look logically, so the same medical staff which
would not clear Clay Thompson to play in game four
with a pulled hamstring suddenly then in game five, you know,
in spite of the fact that they're all doctors and

(01:15:16):
they sign a hipocratic coat that you know, to do
the right thing by their patients, now that they're gonna
rush Kevin Durant back. That that defies logic. Um. I
do think that there had to be some form of
awareness of the possibility of a tear having existed, but
also the likelihood that if a tear previously existed, you're

(01:15:37):
gonna have to get it fixed anyway. That thing's gonna blow.
It's gonna blow anyway, all right, and so you're gonna
need a new tire. Do you do you ride that
tire till it blows out or do you get it
fixed in the in the off season? You get it
flipped out for New Radio, and obviously Kevin Durant knew
some form of the risks. He had his own people there.

(01:15:58):
It was green lit, and his bodily body ultimately succumbed. Um.
We get too much emotion wrapped up, and we we
always think the worst of people. Do I think that
he was misdiagnosed. I don't know what the actual diagnosis was.
I know what we were told, but often what we
were told is not the reality. I'm sure they thought

(01:16:19):
it was just a calf with there's a possibility of
something going on the Achilles. But if something's going on
the Achilles, it doesn't really matter, kids, It doesn't fix
itself on his own. That's not the way the tendon works.
Zack Harper from The Athletic joins the show. Next, we'll
get you ready for Game six of the NBA Finals.
Do the Warriors have any gas in the tank? How

(01:16:42):
much shrapnel is there to pick out for the Raptors.
They had this thing wrapped up, They had the Champagne
on ice, they had the trophy in their locker room,
and then all of a sudden they're like, as psych
let's put that thing back under under wraps, we'll get
you ready for Game six. Plus we'll give you a
sense of what it's like here at Beach, a place
that looks so picturesque on TV? Is it in person?

(01:17:05):
And will Anthony Davis be a Laker by end of
the weekend. We feel like if there's a deal that's
gonna be made, it's gonna be made, uh by Draft Day,
which is a week from today, So it feels like
he'll be somewhere else in a week and as momentum
picks up for the Lakers potentially doing a deal, y
I would not part ways with Kyle Kuzma in addition

(01:17:28):
to brandon Ingram, in addition to Alonzo Ball, in addition
to whatever they can get for the number four picks.
So we'll get the potential traits, we'll talk what Katie's
injury could mean to the free agent free agent pool,
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leaderboard here live at Pebble Beach at the US Open,
where Ricky Fowler is tie to top that leader board.
Of course. Uh Ricky uh part of our group with
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with him back when Dan Buyer and I happen to

(01:18:33):
win the pro am at the South Course, much tougher
South course and much tougher south course at at Tory
Pines Brooks. Kepca just hit the ball a mile anyway,
Kepka within just an awful looking hat like that's gotta
be a special hat for him. You got a free
bowl of soup at that hat. But it looks good
on you. You You do know that? Tell you that one

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that when you do know there's a well, you're your
danger field is so spot on. Hey waiting, don't this
place is restricted? Don't tell him you're Jewish, okay, which,
by the way, is the line right before. I'll take
two of those and one of those and a couple
of pink ladies. And oh, this is the worst looking

(01:19:16):
at I've ever seen you get. I'll bet you get
a free bowl of soup with that hat. Oh but
it looks good on you. You should do the whole
hour as danger field like Max interview as well the
other just to the other night it was at the bar,
told the boat didn't surprised me, show me a picture
of my wife. I thought the awkward silence was gonna

(01:19:38):
stop the But now keep on going, keep on going,
keep on going. Anyway, we're live at at the US Open,
And if you've ever been in this area of northern California,
it does remind me. And of course there's gonna be
potentially the last NBA Finals game or of of the series,
last NBA game of the season tonight about I think

(01:20:00):
it's about a two hour drive around this time of day,
could be as bad as three during during high traffic
I volume traffic time. But by the way, you see Hovelind,
he just outdrove Brooks Kapica. Somebody's ball is further anyway
that that's happy Gilmore. You know that one were good.
Um So one of the things about northern California like

(01:20:25):
a great misconception. There's an old old saying it might
have been be a song that the coldest winner. I
remember is a summer in San Francisco, and two days
ago they had a practice rounds out here and it
was like five degrees. Even yesterday it was sunny. But
now the clouds of return. It's cool. It's overcast. It's

(01:20:46):
about sixty degrees. Dudes are like tigers. Got the sweater
vest over the polo. Obviously everybody has to wear the
pants at at the at the US Open. But it
is very much golf weather, right like British golf. Whether
it's not that windy, but cool and overcast, and this
is more the norm. And uh though those still picturesque.

(01:21:09):
It is not bright and sunny as now is the
U s opener PGA gonna be at at l A
country club and ah, that's gonna be wild. And look
there is June gloom in southern California where it's overcast
the morning and sunny. But the difference in topography, the
difference in weather like This is five hours up the coast.

(01:21:29):
It is completely different than your normal view of seaside
in California, the weather here at Pebble Beach. We we
mentioned the fact there's an NBA Finals game tonight. Obviously
we're still reacting to the Kevin Durant injury, and yesterday
k D posted on Instagram, among other things, there's some
other posts afterwards where he's sitting board in his hospital

(01:21:52):
bed that he had just had Achilles tenon surgery. He
blamed no One and he wished his brothers well and
hopefully they can complete complete the comeback task. But Katie
getting hurt and all of a sudden, now how does
Golden State recover? But the Toronto Raptors have to recover
from what seemed like a sure victory late in that game.

(01:22:15):
And then of course we have what feels like a
pending Anthony Davis trade. Will it be consummated ultimately with
the Lakers and will it be a Kinson Sinc. Deal
or will it be a two plus one player for
one type of deal. Well more on that, let's welcome in.
Zach Harper recovers the NBA for the Athletic and Series
x M NBA Radio, Zach, Let's let's let's start with

(01:22:38):
game five. How do you think Toronto recovers from what
seemed like a series clinching twelve to two run. Uh
that that that was put on the brakes were put
on by their own coach. Yeah, I mean, I get
him not wanting to lose those timeouts for nothing, but
you did have momentum. Um, you did have that twelve

(01:22:58):
to run. Kauai was turning to a superhero. And in
all series, when that happens, the Warriors have kind of
find themselves trying to tread water and thinking that gave
them a chance to breathe. And so I think for
Toronto they need to find that opportunity in game six,
just to breathe. There's gonna be a ton of emotion
last game and Oracle ever Warriors back against walls, all

(01:23:18):
that stuff. They're gonna come out and they're gonna swing
wildly and throw haymakers and the raptors. The only thing
they have to do is just absorb those haymakers and
just breathe. And once they breathe, Pascal Siak can start
hitting shot. Kyle Lowrd, you can start hitting shot. Danny
Green can maybe make another three point in this series.
But it's just got to be that moment of realizing
it's such a long game. They don't have to come

(01:23:39):
out and win it in the first quarter. It's a
it's a great point. I do think the one question
I have, or a couple of questions I have with
the Warriors, I just don't know if they have the dudes,
the bodies. I mean one, I think the matchup when
you have k d and it would force the Raptors
to go small and to spread them out defensively, But
more so just a matchup just the live bodies that

(01:24:02):
the in comparison to what the Raptors have. I mean,
it's tough. The depth is the depth was sacrificed in
order to have Kevin Durant there. They obviously missed on
a couple of draft picks that could that could help
them right now. They've they've had a couple of free
agent signs that really haven't panned out to be consistent contributors.
But the one team there is the two games they've won,
DeMarcus Cousins has looked pretty good, at least compared to

(01:24:25):
the other three games. Right, and so DeMarcus Cousins all
of a sudden becomes a role player that could really
swing this series if he comes out of Game six
and is able to score, is able to grab rebounds,
and and does a good job of of just those
two things. Like, yeah, he's gonna get carved up defensively,
but they just need that third guy to score outside
of Clay and Currying. So if Cousins had a good
game or that, the Warriors should be able to win

(01:24:46):
and force the game seven. But you're right, like they
don't have that consistent person. And when DeMarcus has been
off in the series, I mean, he looks completely unplayable. Yeah,
he he does look completely unplayable and and uh and
it also but it changes the Raptors. They have to
go big to guard him. Like there's some good, there's
some bad to it. The whole thing's the whole thing's fascinating.

(01:25:09):
What do you think about the the k D thing
now now that we had a chance to breathe And
to this point, Kevin Rant has pointed no fingers at
at anyone in the organization in terms of misinformation or
false information. We have heard that from other NBA players,
from some people who cover it, like, I don't know
if it's the blame game or just an explanation for

(01:25:30):
how we went from a calf strain that everybody thought
was an achilles to an achilles rupture in in just
one month. But what do you think now that we're
kind of post mortem with the Katie surgery. I mean,
I still think that I still think that it's a
failing of everyone around him. Of course he's gonna want
to play, Like, yeah, we shouldn't have to say like, hey,
Katie wanted to play, of course you want to play.

(01:25:50):
Clay wanted to playing Game three. The Warriors kept Clay
out because they figured there was a long term battle
there that they'd rather do. You know, in terms of
Bob Myers, in terms of the medical staff, in terms
of the independent doctors, in terms of uh, in terms
of rich Climate, his you know, his agents, all those people,
everybody fails him. If there was no chance that he

(01:26:13):
that he could have injured his achilles, I don't see
how that's a possible diagnosis when what we thought this
entire time was that caff muscle or that achilles something's
wrong with it. Of course that can that can you know,
result in ruptured Achilles. And I get that this is
all hindsight and and everything, but it's to me, it's
just a major failing of everyone around him. And I
give us the finals. I get you want to be

(01:26:33):
out there, um, and I get that it's it's important
and that's what they play for, but that you've got
that view had another ten years of historic basketball in him,
and now we don't know what it's going to be
coming through. Yeah, I actually think that. I mean I
could be wrong, but I actually think everyone knew this
was a possibility. The difference is that if there was
a partial tear from the first injury, he was gonna

(01:26:57):
have to have it fixed anyway like that. Those things
don't heal on their own. Sure, So you know, I
I think that's the one thing that has not come
out yet is that my guest would be otherwise. Yeah,
it is a failing because I've just heard too many
other doctors say that. Yeah, I mean, when the guy
get feels like he got kicked and where he held
his leg the first time, you had to at least

(01:27:19):
take a long look at the Achilles ten. It doesn't
mean you can see it if there's a slight tear,
but it's a slight tear that's that's gotta be surgically
repaired anyway. Yeah, absolutely, but that it's also just a
much different problem. I mean, he now this is a
minimum of a year, right and and that second year
after where he's trying to come back, Like, if he's
any kind of good, that would be a huge success story,

(01:27:41):
because most of these guys are not good coming back
from it. And it's getting better. It's not what it
was back in the eighties and nineties. You know, We've
had Rudy Gay come back, We've had West Matthews come back.
You know, Kobe looked surprisingly decent considering his age and
you know, wearing tear on his body when he came back. Like,
we've seen relative success stories, but for the most part,
that takes you down a couple of notches for your career.

(01:28:02):
And Kevin Durant, now maybe this is two huge years
and and yeah, he's still gonna get paid, He's still
gonna get his Maxi money. He's still like, they're still
gonna be taking care of financially. But this is a
dude that was moving up, you know, all time scoring
list at a rapid pace. He was like the fifth
or sixth highest scoring average in the NBA history. Like,
we're robbed of some historic stuff here, and so is he.
And it's not that his legacy is going to be

(01:28:22):
hurt now because of it, but but it's just unfortunate
that that ends up being, you know, kind of the
prime of his career. It gets locked off like that,
Zach Harper joining us from the athletic and Serious XM
NBA Radio Doug Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. How do
you think the injury changes or does it change his
plans for the summer. I don't think it really does.

(01:28:45):
I mean, I think I think maybe there was some
more connection with him and his teammates after this injury,
and maybe that kind of influences his decision to possibly
come back to the Warriors. But I think that as
longest teams are willing to give him max money, and
it sounds like they are, uh, I think he still
goes about it. I think the only thing can change
is just how those teams structure this team, you know,
wherever he goes, if he if he leaves the Warriors,

(01:29:07):
if it's the Knicks, how do the Knicks structure things
around him to one be a better team this season
by bringing him from help and to setting up a
culture to where in a in a medical culture to
where he can come back and get the best treatment
possible and he can be ready to go a year
from now. Um, I think in terms of the lay
of the land and how the landscape could change in

(01:29:27):
the NBA, I still think everything's in play for all
these free agents. But but in terms of in terms
of Kevin Durant like it. It won't change his plans,
It will just change the impact of those plans immediately. Yeah.
I also think they'll like not that the Clippers were players,
but the Clippers want to win now. Yah, So that
takes them out, you know. The I don't think I

(01:29:50):
think Brooklyn was a reach anyway, but I think Brooklyn
is out. I think it becomes long term play. Uh,
either long term play with UM with the Knicks or
you stay put with the Warriors. I don't necessarily know
if there is another option. Is there? No? I mean
not really. But I I also think that it was
always going to come down to those two. I mean

(01:30:10):
maybe obviously, if if Tyree goes to Brooklyn, that could
have swayed him to Brooklyn. I never really thought the
Clippers were trueing the mix. I think that's a that's
a chaire bus situation. Uh. And I think that Katie
was going to make his decision long before um they
waiting for a Kawai Domino to fall, right, So I
think it was always kind of gonna be Warriors and Knicks.
So that's why I don't really think it's that big

(01:30:31):
of a change in that respect. But yeah, I guess.
I guess technically it limits the options surrounding surrounding him
because of those other teams maybe wanting to be more
win now awesome stuff. Zach Harper joined US, so really
quickly do you think a D becomes an l A Laker?
Not this summer. Next summer, sure, but not this thing.

(01:30:52):
Where do you think he goes? I think he goes
to Boston. I think Danny is gonna pull the trader
on the trade. I don't think he's gonna be scared
off necessarily by the rental for US UM. And I
mostly just think that Gayle Benson is going to stand
firm and not allow a D two be trades with Lakers,
no matter how much David Griffin tries to try to
convince her interesting Zach Harper. Check them out in The
Athletic or Serious, x M NBA Radio, fallm on Twitter

(01:31:15):
at Talk Hoops. I'm guessing you're along the lines with
me where you just you you think Game six Clay
may show up, but you just don't know if there's
a third score. Who do you like tonight? I'm gonna
go with the Raptors just because I think they've been
much better than this team pretty much the whole series.
They just played better basketball. But I gotta be honest.

(01:31:36):
I know we're supposed to be on busing everything. I
wanted Game seven. I just like Game seven NBA Finals.
There's nothing better than that to me in the sporting world.
So I do want the Warriors and win tonight, and
then I don't care who win in Game seven, but
I think the Raptors close it out. Excellent stuff, Zach Harper, Serious,
x M NBA Radio and The Athletic. Thanks so much, Chach. Thanks.
We'll recap so far what we've seen and what we

(01:31:59):
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(01:33:03):
side of the US, but you can see on Fox
Sports One. Quickly to Dan Buyer, Dan, what happened with
Tiger on the first hole? A par of the par
for first hole for Tiger Woods just came up and
in short of a birdie to start to his opening round.
So Tiger Woods even par through one. As Harst playing

(01:33:24):
competitors Jordan Spieth and Justin rose brooks Kepta birdied one.
He is one under par through two, four back of
the lead pled by Ricky Fowlers, Andrew Shoffley and Louise
and and and there's a collective and we're here in
the media tend and there's a collective side of right
because he just missed what would have been an amazing
birdie put But there was that same kind of reaction

(01:33:45):
on the same hole when Phil Mickelson missed a one footter.
I mean that that was one of those like in
any any any Saturday group in America, pick it up,
unless it's eighteenth hole and you know you pressed a
bunch of holes and it's your it's your buddy, like no,

(01:34:06):
no, no no, put that out, like everybody else has picked
that thing up. And mrs the mrs the putt Uh.
Maybe he should have worked at Nance's house on his
is putting a little bit bit more, which of course
is off. What what what holds that off? The sixth time?
I don't know your guests would probably no, but he's
gott he's got a he's got a house on one
of these holes, because it's a replica of the Part

(01:34:27):
three seventh Toll in Jimmy's backyard, Yes, where Billy Horssel
made a hole in one for some net jets hours.
As the sport of golf continues to touch the common man, Baby,
he hasn't plaque? Does any of aces that have been
made on that hole? Does? There's a rock? Dan? I
have to compliment you, very golf announcer ish. When Doug

(01:34:51):
asked you for the tiger up that you said, will
you made a par? But the first just come into
a whisper. Somebody said to me last week. I was
telling him about my schedule. I'm all over the and
the said, wow, you must have a hard job. I said, well,
let's break it down. I sit in the box. I
look at a television Thursday through Sunday and I say,
let's go to seventeen to nine out of four, seven, twelve, fourteen.

(01:35:16):
I'm a glorified being going down, sir. I will be.
I'll be calling actually dug at the Sunrise Senior Center
in Hallendale, Florida. And then you and I both have
relatives down in Hallendale. Rich Lena's calling this. He's calling
the big out of night. I'm going out there um uh,
this always happens though, right because uh, because I want

(01:35:36):
to talk golf and you want to talk who give it?
Like we got a game that's hours away, but you
were you were. I'll tie it to the guys in
the set, Brandon and Frank and David. No. I like
to steer it towards basketball whenever I get the chance.
So I grew up playing who My two boys play basketball,
and I love the game and I love listening to you. Um,
I'll tie it to golf. I think in the bigger

(01:35:59):
sports uh landscape tonight, what we have as Tiger against
Steph right into prime time, and you know Steff's going
to win that battle in terms of number of eyeballs.
But if golf's going to ever have a chance to
compete in prime time against an enormous Game six, it
would be with Tiger playing at Pebble Beach. Uh. I

(01:36:19):
was fascinated. We do a lot of press conferences on
ours show. Uh what I saw and felt last night
after the Durant injury, after Golden State came back to
win that game, and I thought it was an incredibly
gutsy performance was as fraught with emotion and a collective
f you from the players, to us in the media,

(01:36:43):
and to the Twitter sphere. Like I I felt it,
there was genuine anger uh and and uh and in it,
almost like a Shakespearean tragedy. Durant has to blow out
his achilles and threatened his whole career in order to
somehow be embraced and and be loved. I love the

(01:37:06):
guy because I think he's I think he's one of
the all time just straight ballers, right. I compared him
to cream Abdul Jabbar from from from two or three
different aspects. One he got he has an unblockable shot
like the sky hook, like his pull up shot seven
foot two guards right seven with two guards like like,
but Kareem's uh sky hook was basically you had to

(01:37:27):
hope you hope you missed. Secondly, uh, both kind of
intellectually superior in many ways to people who are asking
them questions and so they struggle to relate to the
common man. And also a little bit of being seven footer,
you know, is and you know, I think Duran's only
listed as six nine. You know, Bill Walton was never
listed as seven foot because seven footers were all always

(01:37:48):
kind of gaulked at but a little bit uncomfortable in
their own skin, right and and and there's the last thing.
Cream of Dulabar has never brought up as the greatest
of all time. He's a six time m v P
all time leading scores, six time champion, and and the same.
And I don't think I don't know if he yearns
for the respect that Kevin Durant does. But Kevin Durant,
in a similar way, up until this year, wasn't discussed,

(01:38:11):
I think enough as the best player currently in the
in the NBA. Until he went on that run, you
would probably know better. I think he's one of the
ten greatest offensive players in the historport. And I also
I also think, uh, Steph Curry's under rated and underappreciate
it and has a chance. I think it's remote, but
he has to chance over these next two games, if

(01:38:32):
it gets to a game seven, to change that narrative
in a really big way, I would say, that's just uh.
And you understand this, and we see it in golf.
Athletes are much more sensitive than the public would believe.
We see it with Durant, I see it in our sport,
and nowadays I think what they have to deal with
is that with Twitter, with social media, there is a

(01:38:54):
referendum every damn minute on and on what they they where,
how they played, what they say, you know, some of them,
I think that's some of that. I also think that
most not all of these guys, but most of these guys,
it really isn't as much about the money as as
it is on Twitter. You know, Andy critiqued, but but

(01:39:23):
the reaction from some other players and former players and
media people about why he shouldn't have played is because
of longevity and his contract. That's on Well, we get
so far afield of like, look, he's rich, He's going
to be rich, that doesn't matter. He's going to right right,
And I think that's the reality of it is those
guys really don't like they actually do love the glory

(01:39:47):
they he did, he understood you can get us. He's
a basketball player. He wants to play basketball, and somehow
that becomes a bad thing because you're supposed to manage
your brand. And this starts how we discuss Zion Williams.
Same people that are Kevin Ranch should have played the
same people Saidzion Williamson should have shut it down because
his shoe blew up when he's at Duke, or he's
a basketball player. Go play basketball, and if you do

(01:40:08):
it well enough, you'll get paid so much money you
won't be able to spend it. Rich Lerner joining us,
all right, let's let's talk golf. Let's let's talk golf. Um,
I do think this is fascinating. I sat down and
even if you take out all of the other stuff
of Tiger, Okay, the ups, the downs, the personal trials,
the professional trials, just the idea that here we are,

(01:40:28):
nineteen years later from when he laughed the field at
the very same end. Whether or not he should be
a favorite, he is one of the favorites to win
the thing that in and of itself, taking out that
stuff is more. Then you add in the injuries and
so many people thought that he was done because of
his body, and then you know the chipping yips. He's

(01:40:48):
had everything kind of go wrong. Um, it's remarkable. But
should he be should he be a favorite? Considering where
his game is right? He won the Masters, he won
the Tour Championship. This isn't just based on on reputation
or what he did here at Pebble Beach nineteen years ago.
He's one of the five six seven best players in

(01:41:08):
the world according to the rankings. Uh, he's still the
greatest iron player in the game. Knows this golf course
inside and out, Potts, Polana Green's probably better than anybody. Uh. Look, uh,
I thought two years ago May when he was pulled
over the side of the road in the middle of
the night in South Florida, I thought it was going

(01:41:29):
to end and badly for Tiger. I thought the first
line of the bio was going, you know, it was
going to be uh Tiger Woods, um, you know, fill
in the blank there, and it wasn't pretty. Um. So
the fact that he's back and and playing at a
very high level, I think is remarkable, and I think

(01:41:49):
it's good for all of us. Like he had a
gift for the game, right and he was the most entertaining,
mind blowing, consistently mind blowing performer I've ever seen, certainly
in this sport, but maybe an any sport. And so
given where we were two years ago, that he's back,
maybe on the train in Nicholasville, I don't know, that's
still a big ask. Um happy that he's back. For short.

(01:42:11):
Look when he won here nineteen years ago by fifteen
shots with a triple bogey, with a triple bogey, and
there's kept going, Kept is getting his talk about him
in a second. The gap between best in the world
and everyone else was never wider in this sport and
maybe any other sport than it was on that week
here at Pebble Beach. Uh, tiger was on the shores

(01:42:33):
of the Monterey Peninsula and everybody else was in a
damn rowboat near Australia. It was that nuts. Uh. Two
decades a long time and uh, you know, he's got
a chance to to write another chapter. You mentioned Brooks KPCA.
He's now two under through three. So it burned the
first and just burned the third, and there was there.

(01:42:55):
You know, there was some reaction where I guess there's
four four Fox promos and he was in one of them.
So so it's somehow, somehow that was like a slap
of the face to brush Kepka. This is, by reputation
a little bit more of a shot maker's golf course
than one that you can just crush the way he
did at Bethpage Black. Um. But this is a guy

(01:43:16):
that's been dominating majors over the last two years. What
are your thoughts on Brooks heading into this tournament. Um,
he's crushing people right now. It's been a lot of
nice guys in this sport who have gone on runs. Uh,
pretty faces, they do nice commercials. We haven't had anybody
come along with some attitude, with a little bit of
Kauai Leonard, Uh kind of quiet, rootless. That that sort

(01:43:39):
of a guy. Um and and Kepka is is that
guy right now? I've seen him work out. Uh, he's
an animal. There's there's a story that is sort of
become the stuff of legend and golf. You'll like this.
Before the final round of the US Open last year,
I got pretty much all morning to sit around. He
likes to go to the gym. He goes to the

(01:44:01):
gym to get a workout. He's teeing off at whatever
two in the afternoon, trying to win the US Open,
and buddies with him and challenges him to bench to
fifteen times. He gets at fourteen and a half, needs
help on the last rep. Like, dude, what are you doing?
I asked him. I said, what are you doing? You're
not afraid of blowing out a muscle? Son injuring yourself, tired,

(01:44:25):
you're playing a fine He looks me, says, dude, I'm
just walking around a golf course for five hours. It's
not that big a deal that that that's his men,
that's his mentality. He shows up at the big ones,
he wins. Then he goes to the Maldives with Jenna
and he posts a few on Instagram, and then he
comes back and wins again. Then I'll go to the Bahamas,

(01:44:46):
then I'll go somewhere else. You look, he's a little misunderstood.
He's got a little bit of I think he's mature,
but he's got his boys. He won his first US Open.
He loaded up the private plane. They went to Vegas.
Then they went to l a rooftop party. Little Wayne like,
he get, were you there? He gets Brooks gets after it.

(01:45:08):
But when but when he gets after but when it's time,
uh to get down to business, he takes care of business.
He was not the best player growing up junior golf,
a lot of second place trophy. He's not the guy
you're looking at now. He was kind of skinny. He
came to it late. He took sort of a of
a different route to start him. He went to the

(01:45:29):
minor leagues, of Europe. He played all over the world,
places like Kenya, Kazakhstan, and he just kind of, uh,
he learned to be comfortable and uncomfortable situations. Then he
started lifting training and he kind of found this confidence
a little bit later than most guys. And here he
is at twenty nine. He's about to do something. If
he wins a third straight US Open, then hadn't been

(01:45:49):
done since the Silent movie era. Meanwhile, he's wearing a
hat that he said, it's like that hat in Caddy
Shack if she'd get a free bowl of soup with
that night he had that he has um. Lastly atop
the leader board is is Ricky Fowler. I know Ricky
obviously a little bit of the Oaklahoma state connection, and
he is probably tops on the list of most talented

(01:46:10):
guys on the tour. Agreed to not win a major,
he does have a Player's Championship under his belt, and
he came out looking great. When looking great, I'm not
talking about mullet. I'm talking about how he's playing. Um.
Is that a mullet. I think it's the it's the
Mike Gundey mullet. Quite John Daly, No, it's not there.
Yet it's not there. It's a little stringy too, but
it it qualifies as a mulay. Do you know anybody

(01:46:33):
who had a mullet? Who who's dying to go back
to the mullet? I don't know, no, but it has.
It has made its appearances more in football a little
bit Gundy, but Gundy didn't have a mullet back when
mullets were big. He was clean cut. Now he's now
he's got the mulay. Um. What has limited what has
kept Ricky from from when he was a good question.

(01:46:56):
I think it will happen. I always bet on talent,
you know, it just has have been able to close.
There's no one part of his game that is is incredible.
He's really good in in just about every area, but
he's not dominant in any one particular skill set. Uh.
What's interesting to me about Ricky Fowler is that you

(01:47:17):
know he came out with like a business plan eight
nine years ago. He was shrewd uh and charisma, A
little bit of color will give you a shortcut to
start him, I think. But he knows and we know
that if you don't back it up at some point
in any sport with the real deal with some championships,
was with with some wins that really means something. Then

(01:47:37):
it doesn't last. And Ricky's at that point. We've seen him.
He's in more television commercials for golf than any other player.
He is a force in the world of business. And
by the way, I always love this, Only in sports
could a thirty year old guy who's probably approaching a
nine figure net worth with homes all over the place,
private jets be be labeled an under achiever, right, right,

(01:48:01):
Like if you have if you have one of your boys,
like a surgeon, right and he's like thirty and he
was just listed top ten surgeons in the world and
he's flying pride, he's got a beautiful girlfriend. You say, hey,
he's knocket it out of the park. But in sports,
it's like everybody's a Jewish mother, right, Like you're a disappointment.
You haven't what you're You're a major disappointment, Ricky Alright,

(01:48:22):
So Ricky, Ricky sort of falls into that that category
where it's like he hasn't done enough. And well, that's
how they're judged. They're paid well and they're asked to
perform at the highest level. I do think Ricky Uh,
we'll get his major and it could happen this week.
Johnny Miller was on our set the other night and
he said, quote, Pebble Beach loves Californians. Fowler grew up Marietta,

(01:48:43):
between San Diego and Los Angeles, California kids. Shoftly grew
up in San Diego. He's the top of the leader
Ward California kid. So Bil Nicholson in California as well.
All right to last, who wins tonight in Oakland? You
know they're not closing down Oracle with a loss. Some way,

(01:49:06):
they find a way. Steph and Clay they need, they need,
they need, they need they Iggy hasn't been Iggy. They
need Iggy. And I love Iggdala. I actually think he's
a Hall of Famer. I don't know. It's a conversation
for it every day. I don't I don't know. We'll
argue that. I don't know. I mean, listen, he he
I mean, I'm maybe go ahead, No, he has Uh

(01:49:30):
you know they call it competitive greatness? Are you great?
When greatness is called upon? Like he's Game six against
the Rockets. He hadn't made five threes in over five
years in the NBA, and he makes it in game six, right,
but there's a reason that he was left open against
the needs that he's left open. He needs to make
some shots and I double figures. I think Livingston needs

(01:49:50):
to dial up Livingstone of a couple of years ago. Um.
By the way, Livingston looks like the bass player in
a funk band like Brothers. Johnson doesn't like do you
know what a great story? Do you know? He came
in the league as a point guard, supposed to go
to dude, He's made thirteen threes in his entire career.
He talked about doing what you do. Well, you know
we're talking about I was talking. I was giving Buyer

(01:50:12):
some golf advice, which I should never do. But he
said he had a nine when he played out here
on eighteen his part five, and I said, I said,
he said, well, I hit I hit my you know
my driver. You know, I just I don't even put
one in the water. I was stuck in the roughly
without pacific. My point was like, I got a buddy,
Dave Revson, who works for the Big ten network, and

(01:50:33):
he'll just like, hey, why not just bring out the
seven iron three times? Just you get there in three shots.
It doesn't matter, right, do what you do well? You have?
The seven is the seven iron. So that's what John
Lenison does. Right. He can't shoot three, so he doesn't
seven three from seven unbelievable. That unbelievable. But who do
you think, Winston? I think I think the Raptors win tonight,

(01:50:53):
I do. I just I don't. I don't think it
would be amazing. I think a title. Yeah, but then
you would to tell you like, look, I came in
ont tole You're welcome. That's what my message would be, Tonto,
You're welcome. But he would not would totally convinced easy
human being right, like kind of open. I think it's
it's a little like remember Darth Vader. At the end,

(01:51:15):
there was still a human being in there, but it
was mostly machine the punisher. That's what I called Brooks
kept good. The one thing he would not be able
to say upon leaving Toronto is that I want to
go play for a winner. The only thing he'll be
able to say is I want to go home. Yes.
But but in fairness to to those guys egoes, he's
in San Antonio, they won, he's in Toronto, they win.
Why can't you win with the Clippers? True right? All right?

(01:51:37):
Who wins out here on Sunday McIlroy, he keeps it going.
I thought they, I thought, I thought Johnny Miller. This
course loves Californians. It loves Northern Irishman too, because McDowell
one here. How's that? Thanks so much? Richard? How much

(01:51:57):
longer will Jared goffey nell a Ram find out next?
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get you caught up on these stories the day for
the games and action of the night. Here's Dan Buyer
with the press. The press, Doug, We've been keeping the
updated of what's happening here at the US Open at
Pebble Beach, first round play. Ricky follows Anders Shafley and
Louis Ustas and with the lead at five under par.
Rory McElroy is at minus three and just two shots

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back of the lead. Some of the other notables going
on right now, brooks kept Go the two time defending champion,
early on his round but already to under par just
three back Tiger Woods on the course he is even
part through two holes. Well, I mean, I don't think
there's any real surprises there, right Brooks. That brooks Kept
is playing well, that shouldn't be a surprise. Ricky Fowler

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has the game to play well, not a not a
crazy surprise. Um, I think you know Tiger parring That
parring the first hole is probably the one thing. As
then he just missed a birdie. Puppets at long Long
Potzo have a good what fee for for for par
on the third hole, so unable to get into the

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red numbers as of yet. One thing that I think
is of note today the first nine here at Pebble Beach,
we'll play a bit easier than the the second nine
with some of the holes, even though the two par
fives are on the on the back nine. But you've
seen a lot of the guys take advantage of holes
three through seven and they're birdies out on the back

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then as well, And that's something to at least watch
scoring wise. Of course, not playing nearly as tough as
some thought that it could and probably not going to
be playing this easy come Saturday or Sunday. No, and
of course uh tiger playing in the afternoon. Generally the
mornings are a little bit easier because a little bit
moisture and softer in terms of landing. But it's not

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like it's the wind is blowing. It's not like it's
so clearly dried out. A better as well, ram said
coach Sean McVeigh says there is zero percent chance of
quarterback Jared Goff isn't going to get a contract extension
from the team. A bit of a double negative, but
that was that's what I was thinking. Oh, there's a
hundred percent chance he will get a contract, the extension
will get done. It's not a matter of when, it's

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it's a matter of when, not if. According to the
NFL Networks Michael Silver, actually it's a matter of how much,
not if. Right, Let's just be honest. No one thinks
that they're gonna that day. He stinks just as he
an elite live is he Carson Wentz? No? Is he
better than Dak Prescott? Yeah? I think so, And we'll
get more chance. And I do think that Todd Gurley

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contract gives everybody pause, like, make sure you know exactly
what you have before you ink yourself to a long
term deal. Yeah. And Todd Gurley's health puts a lot
more on the shoulders of Jared Goff. So we'll see
how he responds this time around. Because Super Bowl fifty three,
uh Kentucky has given men's basketball coach John Caliparia new
contract with eighty six million dollars over the next seven seasons.

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Going through the six season, cal will make eight million
dollars the next two seasons, then eight and a half
the next four after that, and the final four seasons
he'll make nine million dollars per seasons. Thank you U
C l A Right for whatever sort of interest they
had bumped up his you know, sped up any sort
of contract negotiations. They weren't going to pay that much.

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But thank you U. C l A. Tiger Woods for
par at the third hole and he sinks it there
it is, and kudos to you. You said eight feet
eight feet seven inches on the measurements of that plot.
What was it rolling in the stem? It's probably it's
probably only about ten or eleven out there right now.
I don't think it's going that fast. Um, And hey,

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I know you've got some time game six tonight at
Oracle Raptors and Warriors nine o'clock Eastern time. Raptors up
three to That wouldn't be cool. I they could put
it up at this place with these big screens, but
they won't. The US opens huge depending on how late
things go. I mean, tip off a cover of John
Fox will go to about ten thirty eastern time tonight.

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You love the game going, what's starting at nine eastern?
Maybe the second half will be up here. That'd be cool.
And you get out there and pressed for tonight, what's
your prediction. I like the Raptors to win. They are.
They are underdogs right now. Ryan Music, who do you like?
I will go with the Raptors as well. Dade Do
I have to take opposites. You got the Blues last night.

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I didn't get the Blues. The Blues one. You know what?
Game six, Clay Thompson. I'm taking the Warriors for no
reason other than to be the opposite

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