Manu Ginobli Deserves More Credit

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It feels like a missed opportunity for the Houston Rockets,
uh and feels like the things that we the things
that we undervalue with the NBA. Like you'll hear people
who are either a sports radio guy who really are
kind of fanboys. They'll say, like, Wow, you know coaching

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doesn't really matter, Yes, it actually really does. They'll say
nobody plays defense, Yes, they actually really really do. Conditioning, confidence,
these things are all important and they and and frankly,
toughness and toughness is It's like the famous definition of pornography.

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I can't necessarily define it, but I know it when
I see it. And I saw it from the Spurs.
I saw Gregg Popovich sit his best player at an
important time, and I saw Mono Genoble once again come
up big, whether it's getting buckets or forcing fouls or
getting drives. The big dunk and of course the big
block shot Mano Genoble showed why by my estimation, I

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don't know if he's the best international player of all time,
right they the best international players in NBA history are
probably a chemalized one and then Dirk Niviski right like,
in terms of overall talent. But the last time I checked,
it's just me. We keep score for a reason, right Like,

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I understand that the scoreboard doesn't always tell the story,
but it sure does tell um a good amount of
those stories. Like if you look back on Michael Jackson's career,

(03:16):
you guys, Michael Jackson fans and Michael Jackson is an
interesting career because I'm a hard press to find anybody
who's a child of the eighties like I was, that
didn't like Michael Jackson. Now, the stuff that came out
at the end of his life and post and and
post mortem um, if true, is revolting. But for whatever reason,

(03:37):
most of us we're able to separate it, right, We're
able to separate Michael Jackson the artist and Michael Jackson
the person and what he has many times been over
been alleged to have done. Correct, But let's just talk
about Michael Jackson the artist. When Quincy Jones was his producer,

(03:58):
his albums were insanely good. When Quincy Jones wasn't his producer,
his albums were hit or miss, right, And like, look,
Quincy Jones eighty four years old. If you look at
the people whom he's touched, they've almost all won when

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he's been involved with their records. Right, there's something too. Hey,
every time that guy's around, it's I'm a big John
Hughes movie guy. Do you guys know John Hughes is
all right? Think back if you're a little bit older
than Ryan Music, if you're Ramos's age and you're my age.
And I started naming off Breakfast Club, I started naming

(04:41):
off Ferris Bueller's Day, Off, sixteen Kids, Weird Signs, Wait,
wait wait, there's more planes, trains and automobiles, Uncle Buck,
all those Chicago based movies. But then I kind of
go on Home Alone, Home Alone to Beethoven, Like you
keep all of those are John Hughes movies, and like,
what what is the connect if tissue with them is

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they're all John the movies. I bring it up because
there's something to this Monto Genoble. Guy, did he bring
the flamboyant sort of flopping of Argentinean soccer to the
United States. You could make the argument, sure, and we
might not be the better because of it, But this
dude has the mightas touch. By my estimation, he might

(05:24):
not be the best, but let's go let's correctly contextualize.
He has been the most successful. He has been the
most influential European basketball player foreign but he's not European
but international basketball player in the history of the NBA,
the history of the NBA, and by the way, let's

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take away the NBA. Let's just say he's been the
most influential. Let's like take two. Mono Genoble is the
most influential international basketball player, non American born basketball player
in the history of the game period. Stop and before
you say, well, what is he actually done? How I

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hold on now? Early in his life he won two
European Championships, play in Italy. He led the Argentinian national
team to a World Championship, which was by the way,
on our soil in Indianapolis. Then he won a gold medal.
Go back and look historically at Argentina and try and
find someplace in which they were competitive ever internationally before

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Monta Genoble and his his countrymen came of age, you
cannot find it. And then you fast forward to the
San Antonio Spurs, who, during this run with Gregg Popovich,
have won five titles. He's been a part of four
of them, and when you tracked their successful runs, almost
all of them coincide with Monta Genoble being healthy. Almost

(06:50):
all of the collapses have to do with Montagenobile not
being healthy. Like, is Derek a better score? Of course
he is. Dirk was the m v P. But it's
important to note Dirk Novitski's Dallas Mavericks team, whatever you
want to say about his supporting cast, Like he has
more first round losses as a superstar player than he

(07:10):
does first round wins first round. Okay, I'm not sending
the bar at NBA Finals or NBA Western Conference Championships
first round losses and you could say a chemalize you
on who won two titles, one the year Jordan was out,
the other the year Jordan's came back mid season and

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he wasn't sharp and they lost the Orlando Magic. Like,
I think it seems great, He's the best low post
score we've had in the past thirty years. And he
started out as a guy who had no post moves
to being kind of the definitive that guy can score
in the post in a myriad of ways the athleticis
and he was like a lift down there. He's great,
but you know what he didn't do. It didn't win

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as much as as Mona Jorobol and between Genoble and
he's right now, at this point in his career, thirty
nine years old, he's he's like, there's a Toby Keith
song right now. When I say Toby Keith, like like,
oh country music, hold on, hold on, take a listen
to this Toby Kei song. What wait for now? That's ready? Right?

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Everybody says that, right she'd see my dad. Well, well
that's a little uncomfortable. See, I ain't as good as
I ain't as good as that once was, but I'm
as good once as I ever was. And don't take

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my word for it. Listen to Mike D'Antoni and what
he said he's the coach of the Rockets, and what
he said about Manu after the game, Well, figures that
Manhu at least have one or two good games and
on you know you knew that was going to happen. Um,
that's why he's a champion. He's great. He's been great
on his whole life. Everywhere in Europe and then over here,
he's great. He's been great. You're like, well, he didn't start.

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He's been all the third team All NBA twice. Did
you know this? That Hall of Famer Reggie Miller was
only third team All NBA once. That's it, Like, do
you know how good he is? He's a transformative player
the position that monta genobody plays. His point forward one
to three could play the four. Did he bring flopping

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to the NBA? Sure? Did he bring versatility to the NBA. Absolutely.
He's also one of those guys that he's going left
and there's nothing you can do about it. But he's
like Quincy Jones, He's like John Hughes. You go back
in track and everything this guy brushed up against somehow
was successful. And that has a value. And while you

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can tell me Dirk Navitski is a better score, he
is great player. I'm not trying to take shots at
Dirk navi Ski. Normally trying to take shots at a
Chimalaja one. But the last time I checked, the reason
we keep score is determined who wins and who loses.
Like why do we play the game? We get so
caught up in points per game and assist per game, Like,
here's all that really matters? Who actually won the game?

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And this guy's team wins more than they lose, wins
important games. He's in at the end of the game.
He's influencing at both ends that partial portion of the game.
What you saw last night was just a snippet of
a Hall of Fame career and by my estimation, the
most influential, the best all around non American born player

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in the history of basketball. And like so many guys,
when they get to the late thirties, he and as
good as he once was. But he's as good once
as he ever was. All Right, we got a lot

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to get to, man um. The NBA has clearly changed, right,
it's changed, It's evolved, the death of the big man.
One such big man was the number one overall pick.
I want to talk to kalm A. Brown about the
pressure of being the number one overall pick. Also about
the evolution of what big men do now as opposed
to when he entered the NBA and what was it

(11:22):
like when he first got the call from Michael Jordan
to get up and get to the gym. Wells the
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on a Fox Sports radio. Back in the two thousand
one draft, he was the number one overall pick, ahead
of Sin Chandler, who came right out of high school
as he did, ahead of Pau Gasol of course, Eddie Curry,

(12:05):
Jason Richardson, Shane Batty, a Eddie Griffin, the Sonya Chop
as well. That's as your there's your top uh, Rodney
White and Joe Johnson. Joe Buckets was tenth in that draft.
He's call me Brownie's kind of have to spend some
time this year on Fox Sports Trader call me, how
are you? I'm blessed? How you doing good man. So
you're playing in the in the Big Three, playing a
little three on three whop? Absolutely alright, So, um, what

(12:29):
what's this like for you to be somebody who was
a number one overall pick, went through the ups and
downs of the NBA and now kind of putting yourself
back on center stage and playing three on three basketball,
and and for people who don't know the Big Three,
which will be on Fox Sports one, it's gonna be
kind of like theater in the round, like there's mean people.
It's gonna be a cool set up. What's this like
for you? Well, I guess if you call the NBA

(12:53):
up and down, it down for me on the court wise.
And may have been a little questions, but uh, coming
from my background, when I came from everything in the
NBA is trust me. No. I Look, that's a great
it's a great perspective that if you were to characterize
your NBA career, well, how would you characterize it? I
would characterize it as a bunch of people, uh, putting

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labels on somebody who never asked for those labels. Um,
all I did was pursuing my dream and I reached
a goal that most kids from the inner city only
dream about, and I persevered through Homer shelters and doing
anything I can do to get there, only to be labeled,
you know, as Michael Jordan's pick. And that's the whole
thing that follows me. You know, the reason why they

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say I can't play basketball is almost based on this
pick and who picked me. I've been on several different
teams and people go away. I was down in Charlotte
when I was healthy, double double and two quarters. No
reporter reported on it, nobody said anything. But then when
I go to the Lakers, I need a shoulder surgery
and I need an ankle surgery, and I go out

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there and I can't dunk the basketball and it's all
over YouTube. Uh, it's interesting. But me, I've always kept
the personality that brings me into a room and say, hey,
look we tell you and now as all we need
to do is play decent, you better, then we'll understand
that I'm gonna play decent that I've never been a
guy who cared about numbers. So I went out there

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on one leg and one short, and I did my talent.
You know, it's it's it's interesting because I talked to
the Cleveland people and they and you know, obviously, like
Anthony Bennett, like you had a much better career than
like an Anthony Bennett who was out of the league
at the end of this year. Like your your third year,
you average eleven a game, eight rebounds a game in Washington,
playing nearly the entire season. But but what happens is
I don't know if it's as much Michael Jordan's pick

(14:41):
as much as it's the number one overall pick. Right,
Like if Greg Oden goes two or three, it's not
that big a deal that his body let him down,
but his body let him down. If you go, you know,
to three or four, your body lets you down. You
you break down to your career is not as long.
It's not as big a story, doesn't Isn't it more
about being the number one overall picked? And is about

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anything else? Listen, I'm a competitor, and you know you
don't get the ball very much when you play on
the team with Michael join and Kobe Bryant and Jupiter
Arenas and Las Hughes and Antoine Jameson and all these
scorings that I played with. But if you do that
draft all over again, in the race of everybody's mind
about who did what. After the second hindsight, I would
be the number one picked all over again. And so

(15:23):
when you the skill set of a six eleven guy
who can bring the ball up the floor, the Peach Jam,
the tournament is up there in the Peach Jam, the
Round Ball Classic. Those wasn't mistake. You see a six
eleven guy doing whatever he wants to do with the floor.
You know, nobody talks about that. Doug Collins introduced me
to the dunker, and that's where I stayed. And that's
why I did my time, and I turned myself into

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a descender and a refounder and lasted twelve years doing
something that I was asked to do. Yo. But trust me,
if I had to do it all over again, I
did number one pick again. Kwamie Brown joining us. She's
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(16:05):
Ice Cube obviously is one of the founders of this league.
The first the first event is going to be in Brooklyn,
New York. I guess the question becomes, how much do
you have in the tank. Your body has gone through
a lot, right, You mentioned the surgeries, you mentioned the
pounding of being in the league, of playing inside in
a man's game. How much do you have left and tank?

(16:27):
Because this is what we're told is it's gonna be
not it's gonna be very loosely officiated, very physical brand
of basketball. Can your body stand up to the toll?
I think I'm want to surprised. A lot of people
have to see a lot of people coming on the
bandwagon of things that they heard and not seeing. Um.
They don't realize the quickness that I have. They don't
realize the skill set that I have with the ball. Um.

(16:50):
When I was in Charlotte, nobody other games and you
know that that scene and you talk about him Watsons
where the Monton. You know, I played against Chris Welver
and uh domine on the other a couple of games
and had a couple of monster games against them. Those
games they buried. So I think now it'll be a
chance for some of the fans who's just jumped on
the bandwagon because you know, in a legend like Michael

(17:12):
Jordan's says that you can't play or this or what.
I've never heard him say that. But when you talk
about the hands and all these things, and people jump
on the bandwagon and just go with the flow. Most
media outlets they don't know anything about Fanny Brown ever
saw me playing high school. But because someone else said,
they just jump on the bandwagonn't be negative. But you
can't get to the levels that I've gotten to not

(17:33):
knowing how to play. You can definitely allow people to
make you lose your confidence or whatever else. You definitely, uh,
you know, basketball player in the NBA does not know
how to play. You put them up against the average person,
you can kill them. So but we're not talking about
the average person. Were talking about NBA players. No, no, no, listen, listen.
It's funny. I had breakfast this morning with cold basketball guys,
and of course I was. I never made it. I

(17:54):
played internationally, was in summer leagues. I've never made it.
And we're talking about Clay Thompson's brother. He is one
brothers the plays for the Dodgers. Be another brother who
played at Pepperdine and had a cup of coffee in
the NBA and the guys are like, oh, well, he
can't play. I was like, hold on, dude, he played
in the NBA. There's four hundred fifty dudes who played
in the NBA this year. Four d fifty. That's that's
how many NBA players. Like there's five hundred thousand kids

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who play high school basketball, Like, don't tell me you
can't play. I had the exact same, exact same response, Um,
what what is like for people to go back and
just if you just look and don't just join the numbers,
Like if my first year I average was seven or
eight minutes of game five points top points, that those
are those are not numbers of a number one draft pick,
but those are not minutes of the number one drafts

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of keep. And so every time that how many to
play thirty minutes and twin minutes, just I wish somebody
would just do their job and just break down when
I scored in those minutes, because it's it's on the
same level as double double or close to a double
doubles any other solide player in the league. And that's
what people don't do, And that's how I lasted so long.
My agent was get the numbers and compare two players

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who played thirty minutes, and it's right on pace. With
numbers of the starting center, But when you play a
guy five or six minutes, what do you think somebody's
going to get that? Well, it's it's impossible, like any
anybody with anybody with the brain understands that. Okay, so
a couple of things here. Um, let's start with the
one and done rule. When you were coming out, you

(19:20):
come straight out of high school, obviously had a tough upbringing,
and so I don't know what your perspective on it is.
To you, what's the perfect rule? Should players be made
to have to go to college for a year, to
have to go to college for two years? Or did
you do you like the idea of going straight from
high school to the press? Listen, we all know we
could should the code it. We could pretend like those
players that going to college for four and a half months,

(19:43):
so stop months just to get through the basketball season.
Let me can pretend like that more mature than I am.
We can pretend like it's not about the units getting
two minutes a five minute. We can pretend and if
you won't do out with but a kid that goes
on to a college school one year, you actually heard

(20:04):
in that kid, Really you're hurting the investage kids because
if somebody else could have got that scholarship and could
have gone on and got an education, you know this
guy's not going. I'll tell you when they'll change the
room back. If these top players start going to HBCUs,
I guarantee you they'll say, oh, then don't come in
high school. Because I think that's why some of the
bad mouthing and the hilan think they have with me.

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They try to make me to post a child on
why not to come out. But I own two or
three buildings, I owned seven eight homes that i'm that
I've ran out or I sailed. So to act like
I'm something a story that you should be a little
or bad like that's ridiculous. So to stop free enterprise
and to stop people from going up and being game
with Floyd, Tell me why the soccer player gets to go,

(20:48):
Tell me why the baseball player gets to go. You know,
if you could, if you could go back and change
one thing about oh no, no, no no, Let me
let me finish real quick, called me brown and joining
us part of the Big three, Big three on three
professionally getting ready to start this summer start up by
Ice Cube. So many former NBA stars either coaching or
playing like kam Is in this league. If you could

(21:10):
go back to your rookie or second year and and
tell Qualm, then something Quama now knows. What would it be?
I would beg to be traded away from Thirk Collins.
Why Doug Collins is you can actually time Cominins the
Grand Heel don't like you and something's wrong. Grand Hero

(21:33):
is one of the greatest guys in the world. And
then I think everybody that plays for him that says
every all the right things because it affects them. And
Doug is a very important guy in basketball. You gotta
a great basketball mind, don't don't get me wrong. But
the mind games that he plays, you'll be in the
same room he's talking about you and try to get
another guy to go against you. You know, nineteen thirty five.

(21:55):
Nobody wants to be played with and these are this
is a livel is that this guy plays with. He's
just a micro manager and he's just not a very
good coach when it comes to that. You wanted them
to help the play and X and is he a
basketball mint, sure, but does he relate to his players
actually that's coming from the African Americans. Absolutely not. And

(22:16):
I'm I'm just it's not going to affect me to
say that now. But if you can act some of
those players and they'll speak from the heart and they'll
be honest, I'll tell you what, go grab Eaton Thomas,
You'll definitely tell you. I've trust me, dude, I've I've
heard it. And it's interesting how many stops you know, Like, look,
Jordan's the second he left, Jordan's started winning, and of
course we we know how it ended so many other places.
He is a fabulous basketball mind. But there are other

(22:39):
parts to coaching men in the NBA. All right, So,
uh so who is who is a qualmi um? Richard
Lewis is your captain? Jason Williams is your co captain.
Macmodob do like that dude can still get buckets. Gary
Payton's your coach. So, like, have you guys started practicing together?
You guys started working out? I guess three on three
I'm just wondering, like, is just all pick and roll?

(23:01):
You're gonna get the post up? Like, what's it gonna be? Like? Well,
three on three is uh you know, usually it's a
smash mouth type of basketball. It's usually we do what's
called picking a scam. Because you're a little guy, you
go into the block, you gotta be able to hold
your own. So that's why a lot of guys they
didn't even draft point guys. They just drafted big, strong
guys and they're just gonna probably take to kicking role

(23:24):
is interdresting, And yeah, it would be high if everybody
could switch and if you can have a big athletic
that keep, it would be a high deal situation. Why
don't you start switching and showing to go on the
picking rolls? You got dunks all over the places. Uh,
what are your last thing? What are your thoughts on

(23:44):
the evolution or maybe the evolution of big guys in
the NBA. You know, because it's so physical in the
NBA game in the low post and because they don't
they call all the fouls out in the perimeter, everybody's
playing four out one end or you know, pick and
roll and keep the lane open. And some teams even
playing like the Kazi, play five out at times with
changing five floating shooting threes and Lebron playing like kind

(24:06):
of the facto power forward. Do you like that evolution
of the game. I mean yes and no. Um, I
know why I get it. You got if you look
at Tony Coukos when they played Michael was uh Olympics
or whatever. You know, when I watched, they said Tony
Kukos was all world. And then when you saw how

(24:27):
big and strong Scotty kip It and Michael Jordan went
over there and what they did to him, they said,
we'll wait a minute. We got to change these rules
in this game because these players can play. Its physical,
so they made size not as employed. You know, when
I go play a pick up ball at the park
on basketball corps in the NBA, we don't like and

(24:47):
didn't start playing. So in demplement this rule called freedom
of movement, which only means we want to see more
points because we want fans in the seats. Because it
destroyed distance basketball who they wanted to and all that,
that's not exciting. We want to see high. We want

(25:08):
to see this the business of basketball. Now you got
you got little kids wanting beach. That's clearly the players,
so you gotta let them be able to play. Who
knows it would be interesting? Call me. I appreciate you
join us. I really appreciate how candid you were uh

(25:29):
in answering all of our questions. Can't wait to see
you in the Big Three with the Three Headed Monsters
coached by GP coach by Gary Payton. Thanks for being
our guest on Fox Sports Radio. Having ask kwalm a
Brown former number one overall pick, no holds barred, if
I could go back and tell myself one thing when
I was a rookie get away from Doug Collins. I'll

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Fox Sports Radio quickly on Kalmee Brown. Look, I'm gonna
I'm gonna disagree with them from this perspective. This idea
that the one and done is is bad and the

(26:11):
kids should come straight, Like I actually don't believe that.
I do think that that he is a He is
forever a success story. Right. He has not gone the
route of Greg Odin and being kind of down his
luck and going back to Ohio State about Greg Oden
was at one and done U but as a as
a number one overall pick deemed a bust, but the
the likelihood of success is greater if you get even

(26:33):
six months in a college campus. Plus the way the
n c A sets it up, you can always go
back and get your degree and actually be on the
floor as a coach. You don't have to, but you can.
It just provides you a safety net if the basketball
thing doesn't work out. And I think there's an emotional
maturity that he wasn't able to have when he first
joined the Wizards that forever set him back. But it's

(26:55):
it's fascinating what he said about Doug Collins, and this
is like, like, I get it. I understand that that
the way the way in which UH raising kids has
changed from when I was a kid was if you
got in trouble at school and you were a kid. Right,
So let's say if you're thirty five year old or

(27:16):
maybe you get in trouble. You got in trouble at school,
you come home, your teacher called your parents. You got
in trouble a lot as a kid, right, I did not,
But you were you were a gang banger. You're not
a piru right? Paru? Right? Right? Weren't you? Correct? Okay,
so did you ever get in trouble in growing up sometimes,

(27:38):
but you're right. What you're saying is correct. The teacher
would call you from the school. I haven't even gotten
to what I'm saying yet. I just men, okay, So
the teacher would call. Okay. And when you'd come home
and the teacher called and said, called your parents, what's
your what's your mom's name, dad's name? My father's name
was George, and my mother's name is Octavannah. Okay, Octave, Octavannah, George.

(27:59):
I tell you that, uh that John was a turd today.
Um he was. He gave me the finger when I
wasn't looking. I don't know. He he flicked a booger
on my chair. He did the thing with the with
the paper clips and a rubber band when he fired
it at the at the chalkboard, when I wasn't looking.
He did whatever he got in trouble. Today. You walk

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in from school and Octave is there, and George is there.
What do they do? Are they are they mad at you?
Or do they like? Let's say the principal calls, what
happens when you come home? The way it works now,
way it works now is you come home and almost

(28:41):
always the parents they're upset with their child, are also
upset with the teacher, Like we don't know how to
raise kids anymore because we as now adults who we
are parents got called when they call the parents like
the parents like, well, it's got to be the teacher's fault.
And this kind of goes into sports where it's always
the coach's fault. So I don't want to say that

(29:02):
Kwalmie Brown is a percent right about Doug Collins blaming
the coach. But a coach can kill your confidence. A
coach can play mind games. A coach, even really good ones,
can say I mean, look, I will stand by this.
I know Darko was never going to be Lebron, but
my first NBA draft average I played against Darko twice

(29:23):
when I was in Israel. Darko was part of the
NBA draft that had Carmelo. He was taking ahead of Carmelo,
Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and Lebron James the only player
taking ahead of him. Do Darko could play six, ten,
face up, four or five like right now, Darko would
be a star in this league, and he came in
this league. But you have to play for the right coach,
he was on a veteran Pistons team that was designed

(29:43):
to win and win. Then then they bring in Rashid
Wallace like mid season. You know, it wasn't there was
no D League really to help him grow at the time.
And there was a D League, but it wasn't as
developed as it is now. Um, and they put him
in like with two minutes to go in the game,
he was the ultimate victory cigar, Like, how are you

(30:04):
ever going to be good that way? You're not and
it's gonna kill your confidence. And confidence is the world's
greatest performance enhancer, and lack of confidence can be a
performance inhibitor. And so do I think that, uh, that
the parent is always that, the teachers always to blame

(30:24):
or the coach always blame. No, but I've heard that
about Doug Collins a lot. And I also think you
take a height you have to have the perspective. You
take a high school kid who has been in homeless shelters,
doesn't have the type of support structure, hasn't been in college,
doesn't know how to take orders comes in here, says
the pressure of being the number one overall pick fresh
out of high school, selected hand selected, by Michael Jeffrey

(30:47):
Jordan's and you play him for Doug Collins, who does
all these things that are really hard for veteran players
to put up with, and you're like an eighteen year
old kid. It is a recipe for disaster, and so
Doug Collins should have a portion of the blind not
all of it, a portion of the point. We'll get
to the Patriots thing a little bit later. What are

(31:09):
the chances that Deshaun Watson, the Deshaun Watson starts for
the Texans. We will discuss upcoming next Doug Olie Show.
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(31:39):
good day? Every day should be a good day, right,
Like you could be listening to something else about politics
or that's just stuff is just a mess right about? Man?
We haven't really gotten into was it Adrian It's Adriana
Lima and Ariana Grande? Right? I got those Sometimes I

(31:59):
get the names like I don't want to be the
dad who walks in and goes, uh, my daughter's harper
or she's actually not into that thing. But uh, the
wait ariana Grande. We know because she used to be
on a young kids like a tween, a pream show,
a preteen show with an incredibly annoying voice. Um, of
course she's blossomed into a flower now and she's older now. Um.

(32:22):
But like, I don't even I don't even know how
I get into the Matt Harvey supposedly got dumped by
Adriana Lima and then went out and got hammered because
of it. Um, I don't know, yes, right, Well, technically
it was that he saw that. The reports are it's

(32:43):
that Harvey saw Adriana Lima out with Julian Edelman. That's
what upset him. It wasn't necessarily that he got dumped.
It was more of seeing her with another guy. I
just I'm not like, but it was it were already
I think it over. They like friends with benefits, where

(33:05):
they like everyone when they're in the same when they're
the same town. I think part of that's part of
why he was upset about it. Was he he thought,
I don't I'm sorry, I don't buy it. I just
I don't I don't buy like, look, Matt Harvey goes
out and gets hammered. That's who Matt Harvey is. Everybody
knows that. And he he has away with the ladies.

(33:27):
There is a track record that. Yeah, kind of weird
because he's he's thrown on some LB's right, he's thrown
on some lb since he's been here, since he became
the Dark Knight. I don't know. Let's let's get to
a bunch of other So let's dig into my sack,
shall we. Let's reach into godly sack. Peto loves that.
That's his favorite thing that he's ever created on Fox

(33:49):
Sports Radio, doesn't, isn't it? Doug Gottli Show, Live and
Direct from Los Angeles. Now we bring in the Dan
Buyer working on the first day of marriage, which he
forgot his wedding ring, one of two. You didn't even
make it a week. Then it's all about the process.

(34:10):
I even mentioned to you yesterday morning. That's what worries
me because I remember I gotta do keys, wallet and phone,
and now I've got to add a fourth to it,
and today I forgot the ring. So and and now
I've been told by three people, just keep it on,
just keep it on now by four. I don't know why.
I don't know why you take it. I don't understand that,
like I don't know, I'm new to this dog, Get

(34:31):
off my back. I just I want to know. What's interesting, though,
is that you you noticed because you looked at your
hand while you were driving. The first means that you
have perfect ten in two driving position, that which I'm
pleased by. Second of all, it also tells me you
haven't had it on enough, because what happens when you
wear it enough? Ramos and I talked about this yesterdays.
You just feel it, You feel something. You're like, what
am I missing? When I'm missing? And you're not yet there?

(34:53):
All right? What's to my second? Quickly? Before I say, John,
Ramos was nodding his head so hard, and you were
naming the names like Adriana Lehman, Ariana Grande, like he
was so sure that you were correct, Like, yes, those
are correct. You can say John to the Cavaliers win
the NBA title last year, and he wouldn't have been
as sure as he was of those names that you

(35:14):
were asking him. So he knows, he knows who the
the hot ladies are or the business, all right, what
are the chances time Doug. The NBA says they're looking
into an incident involving Celtics card as Aiah Thomas and
a heckling Wizards fan where Thomas allegedly said, and I'm quoting,
I will f you up and you know that end quote?
What are the chances as Aiah Thomas by the NBA

(35:37):
for his Game three actions? Hey, you can do that
one as well. What would be the chances he does that? Um,
I'm gonna say, what are the chances he gets? Fine?
I think he'll I think he'll get fined. I hate that.
I just hate that people feel like empowered to say
whatever they think to you, and you're supposed to be
a mute there and not say anything. Obviously you're not.
You shouldn't say I'm I could f you up and

(35:58):
you know that? Because I do think that Isaiah Thomas
would like when you're five eight, five nine, you play
basketball like you've gotten in fights. Like one of the
things about like six ten, six eleven dudes, those guys
have never been in fights because they've always been the
largest men in every room. That's why they like Chack
and barely Box and all those other big stiffs can't
box at all because they've never gotten in fights. Whereas
Isaiah Thomas come at you like a spider monkey, he

(36:20):
just would right right, like I would too, Like I'd
be a spider monkey. I just come and like whatever,
just starts swinging, grab a guy. Um where the chance
he gets fine, probably could probably get fine five ten
grand or something. Just so he said like, hey, don't
ever do that again. Slap him on the red. Yeah.
I think so too. We're gonna put it out a
hundred percent. How about that Game five tonight between the
Wizards and Celtics is in Boston. On the Wizards trend

(36:42):
of thing, what are the chances Doug the Wizard's head
back to d C for Game six on Friday with
a three two series lead over Boston, then have to
win tonight and busts. I think this one holds form.
I think home team wins, bust and Celtics wins. Now,
what are the chances would like fifteen percent chance they
have a three to lead after after five. Let's stick
with the NBA because he's been a team that's been

(37:03):
making some headlines not playing. Phillip dot Com has reported
that Philadelphia native in Villanova product Kyle Lawi has been
interested in playing in his hometown. Nolias said he's gonna
opt out of his contract to become a free agent
this summer. What are the chances that Kyle Lowry plays
for the Philadelphia seventy sixers. If you watch the NBA,
you they're like, you feel like they're a point guard away. Now,

(37:26):
Ben Simmons supposed to play some point but it's not
a true point guard to be a point forward. Um.
I think this is to create leverage for him to
get a bigger deal from Toronto. Were the chances chance? Um?
Because he can play off the basketball off of the Simmons.
They do need a point guard. They do have a
ton of young talent to trade away to get some
more veterans. It would make sense they could be a

(37:47):
playoff team, and Toronto said that they need to They
need to kind of flip the script a little bit.
But I also think there's a stronger likelihood that he
makes more money staying in Toronto and resigns. This is
just to create leverage. I'll say tony five percent chance
he goes back to Philly, jumping to the National Football League.
The Houston Chronicles. John mcclan reports that Tom Savage will
be the Week one starting quarterback for the Texans and

(38:10):
that there was no competition in training camp for that
starting quarterback job, So we know the Texans straightened up
to get Deshaun Watson. What are the chances Deshaun Watson
starts a game at quarterback this year for the Houston Texans,
A game singular A y chance? I don't think he
starts Week one. I'm not as smitten with Deshaun Watson
as everybody else's. Like, there's a reason people are like, wait,

(38:31):
he's not that accurate. He hasn't played under center. It's
a very very complex system when he gets to uh
when he gets to Houston, like they're not running his
zone read when he's and and he sometimes struggles in
the pocket. So um, but I think he starts a game,
So I'll say chance he starts the game final one
for you the Rock. Yes, a k A. Dwayne Johnson

(38:52):
told GQ magazine him running for president is a real possibility.
What are the chances he runs and what are the
chances he wins? What are the chance he runs? Uh chance?
Chancey wins? Ten chance? I do think that Trump opened
the floodgates. You know, like, look, a lot of us
wish Bloomberg would have run. Uh, Mark Cuban could run.

(39:14):
I think whatever invisible ceiling it were for guys that
weren't qualified for the job, Donald Trump has blasted through.
I think you'll see more of this. That's what Kirk Cousins,
a star or just a guy find out next Boom

(39:35):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Folks, we just try
and bring you the stories of the day that you
might have missed and make you interested in spouts. And
we had our first good NBA playoff game really right,
I mean it was interesting when Lebron was down twenty
six and he's just like, I'm gonna flip the switch
and carry much those against the Pacers. Everybody knew the

(39:56):
outcome of that series. By the way, Kobe has some
I think it was a weird code made Kobe's awkward.
Anybody ever noticed that Kobe's awkward? Um, But Kobe made
a kind of a weird I don't know as a
parallel or metaphor for the formality of Calves Warriors and

(40:19):
why he's okay with it. I don't know if it
actually made any sense, but whatever, we'll tell you to
you A little bit later on in the show, Rob
Parkers joined us this hour. Rob Parker's gonna join us
from Fox Sports One and Fox Sports Radio in thirty minutes.
He's gonna join me in studio. We're gonna argue. That's it.
That's really the that's the that's the tease. We're gonna argue.

(40:40):
I like Rob a lot did. Talented sports radio guy
writer in Detroit. Of course, used to be at ESPN
before stephen A sold him out and then uh he did.
Happened to me too, Um, but anyway, not Steven age
other people. So uh, anyway, Rob's gonna we're we're trying
can textualize Lebron James as he went to like really

(41:05):
old man barbershop reference, going talking Larry Holmes, and I'll
allow him to kind of allow him the floor to
give his thoughts, and then we'll see if we can
slice and dicest points or agree with his points on
Lebron James and how we evaluate the greatness of his
career versus the greatness of others career, most notably Michael
Jeffrey Jordan's hum I think This is interesting. So Scott

(41:29):
McCluin was the guy. Scott McCluin uh lost his job
as Washington Redskins general manager. And mcclun has had personal
problems in the past, most notably with alcohol, and it
was leaked as that was part of the problem. They
didn't allow him to go to the scouting combine. Let him. Now,
I'm gona talk to the media, and now after he's

(41:50):
been fired, he did talk to the media. He was
on with Grant and Danny on one of six seven
the Fan and he had this to say about his
ter back. Remember, Kirk Cousins was a quarterback. They franchised
him last year. They couldn't get a deal done this year.
Some people thought he might trade him to San Francisco
forty Niners because Kyle Shanahan is the coach of the Niners,

(42:14):
and Kyle Shanahan was spent with Kirk Cousins even when
he was the coordinator for the Redskins and his dad
was the coach and they had r G three. They
thought They always thought Cousins was better. Cousins fit their system,
their style, and so there's always been this thought that
he'll end up in San Francisco because San Francisco will
pay him what the Redskins won't. And you have to

(42:34):
ask yourself after Kirk Cousin threw for over four thousand
yards this year and took the Washington Redskins to the
playoffs twice, Like, why wouldn't you give him that type
of deal, that type of contract. Here's mcclu i think
if ceiling is worth a right now with people around him.
You know, he's a good football player. He's a quarterback
that's proven that he can went into division, you know,

(42:57):
and and that's hard to find, you know, and have
a chance for two years in a row, you know,
go to the playoffs. That's that's what you look for. Alright.
So again, let's let's contextualize Kirk cousins year this year.
Let's let's let's like talk about so he threw for
forty seven hundred fifty eight yards touchdowns, twelve interceptions. It's

(43:20):
important to note that these days, these days in the NFL.
Back in my day, three thousand yards was a great year.
Now four thousand yards doesn't do anything, right. They were
fourteen four thousand yard quarterbacks last year. Like that's kind
of crazy, kind of crazy. When you think about it,

(43:43):
this is really interesting when you bring up four thousand
yard quarterbacks and not all of them played all seventeen games,
but Simmoth thirteen four thousand yard quarterbacks, including Eli Manning,
Jamis Winston, Andy Dalton didn't have a good year, right,
Nobody would argue any Dalt had a good year. Russell Wilson,
Carson Palmer, Carson Balm every good year. Not really, they
were disaster this year. Andrew luck didn't have a good year.

(44:06):
Joe Flacco, Matthew Stafford, Philip Rivers, and Aaron Rodgers obviously
had a great year. Kirk Cousins, Matt Ryan, Drew Brees.
Not on that list is Derek Carr, who got hurt
before the end of the season, so he didn't play
his sixteenth game. He threw for thirty nine hundred yards
would have thrown for four thousand. Blake Bortles through fort
hundred yards. Sam Bradford, who had to get the butt

(44:27):
rid of the ball super quickly and led the set
the all time record for completion percentage but all DNC
and dunk thirty eight hundred yards. Ben Roethlisberger didn't play
all all sixteen games. Uh some kinds of injury thirty
eight hundred yards. Carson Wentz thirty seven yards. Dak Prescott,
who did have a very good year, only thirty six
hundred yards. Tom Brady, who did not play the first
four games this season, through for thirty five hundred yards.

(44:49):
So look insummation. Had Tom Brady played fifteen games right
when him played the last game of the year, had
Ben Roethlisberger not been hurt at some point this season,
um and Derek Carr not gotten gotten hurt, we would
have had like sixteen seventeen four thousand yard passers. That's

(45:14):
over half the league. Now, Kirk Cousins obviously didn't just
it wasn't just that he threw for four thousand He
knewly threw for five thousand yards. Drew Brees only one
throw for five thousand. Did they actually have a good year? No?
The dunk um what McLuhan is saying, and he's not
saying it without saying it. He's saying it because he

(45:35):
believes to be fact, Like this is who he is.
He's a he's not the worst quarterback in the league.
He's not a backup. He's good. You're not gonna win
a super Bowl because of him. You probably don't get
to a super Bowl because of him, but can you
get to the playoffs? Sure, But now of a sudden,
you need a guy to win a game, and that's

(45:56):
not really who Kirk Cousins is. And I kind of
think that's really fair. And I actually think that what
the Redskins are trying to do is like hell, Like
I understand that we fully get that. Traditionally in the NFL,
whoever gets the last deal gets the most money, right,

(46:19):
But the Redskins like, look, dude, we don't think you're
a top five quarterback in the NFL. Nobody thinks you're
a top five quarterback. We think you're a second tier
between second and third tier quarterback. I'll just ask you
really quick, would you rather have, uh, Aaron Aaron Rodgers
the best? Okay, and Tom Brady, even at this stage

(46:41):
in his career, he would still probably rather have I'd
rather have Philip Rivers. I understand that people can't understand
why the the Chargers don't win more if he's so awesome,
But Philip Rivers is awesome. He's lost his number one
ride receiver the first game the past two years, Melvin
Gordon sucked two years ago. Is decent than he got hurt.

(47:02):
Antonio Gates was out with p d s. They have
no defense. Offensive line has been a joke. He's awesome,
so um like you would you take him ahead of Luck?
You wouldn't like he is somewhere between. He wouldn't take
Hm ahead of Russell Wilson, would you? No, I'm not
not not crazy and in all honesty, Derek Carr is

(47:24):
better than him, but he's not bad. He's not bad
like he's obviously. Is he better than Ryan Tannehill? I
think so. Is he better than Tyrod Taylor? Probably? I think,
ceiling wise, Marcus Mariot is probably better. He's he's as
good or better than Alex Smith, who gets the Cancer

(47:45):
Chiefs to the playoffs, but then has that same ceiling.
Here's Scott McLuhan in regards to why they haven't compensated
Kirk Cousins like he wants to be compensated. Everybody says
it's the most important too. This on the field, which
I understand, he's touching the ball every snap, but if
the guys around them, you know, it's all of a

(48:06):
sudden if you're over paying the quarterback. Then you're gonna
lose an offensive linemen. You know you're gonna lose a
defensive lineman. You're gonna lose a corner because you can't
love the cap. You can't afford it smart, Like, look,
there's a it's the reason that the Dallas Cowboys hit
a home run with Dak Prescott. Is Dak Prescott a

(48:26):
top five quarterback in the league. No, but he's a
fourth round pick who has to I don't know if
you guys know this. They cannot renegotiate his contract over
the next two years. There's there's no there's a clause
in the Collective Barten Agreement that they cannot renegotiate his
contract over the next two years. So he's making less

(48:49):
than a million dollars this season as quarterback, which allows you,
because the gallery cap, to spread all that money around
and somewhere in between that and what he's actually worth
or what Andrew luck money were like, Look, this is
what Tom this is why Tom Brady took less. Because
in order to really be successful, you gotta have an

(49:10):
offensive line, you gotta have a really good defense. And
if they're trying to be fiscally responsible and say Hey, look, dude,
we think you're good, but we we won. We don't
think you're worth twenty five million dollars a year. And
two like, that's not really smart to run a football
team that way. We think sixteen million dollars a year

(49:32):
is about right, maybe seventeen not overpay you. And oh yeah,
by the way, we surround you with better talent which
allows you to have a better career before longer. Yes,
rhyme music is the issue with the Redskins at this
point though, since they've used the franchise tag on Cousins twice,
that number one, they've now raised their number of negotiation. Like,

(49:54):
if you're paying Kirk Cousins, it's almost twenty four million
dollars this year, you're now a fair guaranteed, by the way,
and he was twenty million dollars last year, so they
paid him forty four million guaranteed over two years exactly.
So this is the issue, and you know this more
than most people, with you know, having an agent and
all of those his agents now saying, oh, so you
want us to take a pay cut if you're gonna
ask him to take sixteen seventy million dollars a year

(50:18):
you're effectively asking him to take a pay cut now. Well,
and and and what the and what the Redskins will
say is, hey, look, if we gave you a contract,
you know, if we gave you a hundred million dollar
contract that I had sixty seventy five seventy five million
dollars in guarantees, you know we would have already paid
you forty four million dollars in guarantees. The Redskins are

(50:39):
betting on the idea. Last year they the year they
won the division, the Eagles were a disaster, right. The
Cowboys were a disaster because they had injuries, and the
New York Giants found ways to Tom Coffin got fired

(51:00):
because they mismanaged the game down the stretch. Right. The
Washington Redskins didn't actually beat a team with a winning
record the year they won the division with Kirk Cousins
or quarterback. Zero wins over a team with a winning record,
not one. And so you can tell me he's great.
I would tell you he's good, and they want to
pay him. Got man like he's good. And I don't

(51:23):
believe Scott McCluin lost his job because he didn't want
to pay Kirk Cousins. I think what he's saying is
what everybody in the Redskins organization is saying. And uh,
Cousins wants to be compensated like a guy who threw
forty yards. And they're like, look, he's good, he's good
in our system. We like him, but we're not gonna
pay him top five quarterback money because he's not a

(51:44):
top five quarterback. And oh yeah, by the way, he's
more likely to be successful. We're more likely to be
successful if he signs for a reasonable sum of money.
And if we lose him because of it, fine, and
oh yeah, by the way, they're rolling the dice on
him having an average year this year, to which his
powers in the the goociation won't be great. I kind of
agree with that philosophy. I might be alone on that island.

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The sad part about this song is music is too
young to know either incarnation of this beat right, Like

(52:54):
he probably knows life ice baby, but he definitely doesn't
know come on, yeah, my queen, let's go. Let's go. Well,
I'm just I'm kind of did you do you guys know,
I'm kind of nice. I've always been kind of naive,
like not so naive. I didn't know Barry Manolow was
gay by Barry Manlow. It was like two weeks ago

(53:15):
Barry Manlow came out, Like why is Barry Manlow coming out? Like,
didn't there was somebody who didn't know Barry Manlow was gay.
I'm really know, like, Okay, I I know, do I
not care? But I just didn't think anybody didn't know.
But for a long time, like I didn't know, uh,
Freddie Mercury was gay. I just I guess that part
of music is like oh, oh, queen, Oh, that's why

(53:36):
they're called queen like it was like like Bob oh
Man oh Man and I'm a I'm a huge queen fan,
favorite queen song. There's only one answer to this one.
Everybody answers it wrong favorite queen song, uh John Ramas
my favorite queen song or just my favorite queen song?
Is we Were rock You? That's the right answer. Everybody

(53:59):
says Bohemia, everybod says. Everybody says Bohemian reps is not
not as good as we Will We Will Rock You
comes on? And is it impossible that you don't go
like there? Is it impossible music? Please don't tell me
you're gonna go Bohemian rapsody. No, I'll go with we

(54:19):
Will Rock You. But I know, uh well, my mind's
always been show must go on. But I will say this,
I've never heard anybody say I want to hear we
Will Rock You like nobody's like I gotta hear that song.
And that's why I don't understand why it gets so
much radio play. It's because it's awesome, It's because everyone
wants to listen to it. Damn bottom girls. Come on, dude,

(54:40):
you mean to tell me right now you're not ready
to go do something awesome. Well, I've just read like
this is more of a stadium anthem to me, and
this is you need seventy thousand people. Nobody's like, man,
I've got we will rock you. In my head, I
have to hear it. I just never felt it was
a listening song. Okay, but in your head is not
like Macarena gets in your head. No, hey, malcom in

(55:04):
hut right, like that gets in your head. You're welcome,
by the way. Forgot like putting that in your head, Like,
oh I hate that guy? What what? Hey? What was
your first dance song, Dan Buyer? Um, no, no, no,
I was gonna song for someone by you two? Because

(55:24):
Lisa is a big YouTube fan. Wow, you didn't you
didn't think about one? No? No, like you're one now
I understand that the one. I don't think that's really
about becoming one. But yeah, just like Boord in the USA,
isn't the patriotic anthem everybody thinks it is. It's the
exact opposite, opposite. Just listen to the lyrics and uh, hey, look,

(55:48):
my my favorite class I tell you all the time,
my favorite class ever was uh in between Notre Dame
in Oaklama State went to junior college for a year,
and I took the history of rock and roll. And
again I told you, I'm kind of naive, Like I
didn't know that most people I don't like even the
term rock and roll is sexual innuendo. Right, But I
didn't know that Frankie goes to Hollywood, Frankie stay relaxed,

(56:10):
like I didn't know what that was about. And then
all of a sudden, like you listen to the words like,
oh wait, that's the dirtiest I've ever heard. A little
red Curvette. Also is not about a car. So that's
also something that people should realize. It's not of out there,
it's about it's about drugs, right, yes, and a and
a woman. It's not like going to the Honda dealership

(56:32):
and buying a new car. That's not uh oh, that's uh,
that's funny. We're supposed to do something sports here, weren't we.
Rob Parker is going to join us in a second, Um,
I got this is this kind of does go back

(56:54):
to the eighties. Buyer is, Uh, movies are great for underdogs, right,
movies give us movies give us great underdog stories and
and some movies are based upon like Miracle is based
upon a true story, and we were the underdog, Like
we weren't that big an underdog right against the against
the Russians, Like we're still America, still of the hockey

(57:15):
playing countries in nineteen eighty we were we were probably third, right,
It's not like you're in the semis. Yes, I mean,
it wasn't like, let's kind of be on like the
Russians might have been the best because they were using
grown men and we were using college kids. But it's
it's not like we're like, oh, hockey, what is this sport?
We've never heard of it before. Like it's not it's
not like we're the Jamaican bob sled team trying to

(57:36):
win a gold medal. Okay, so, but but but like
the lower of the underdog ideas, some of it comes
from reality Mile in high school, which of course was
part of the famed Hoosiers um Um which in in
the movie Hoosiers it was Hickory Heights. That's a true story.

(57:56):
But it's interesting we have this infatuation with like we're
a little rock Rocky yo. So we love the movie
Rocky because the underdog, we like, did the Russian have
to be on steroids, Like did he have to be
on steroids? When? When? When? When? In Rocky four? Probably not.
That was a little bit over the top somehow Rocky
can just take all those shots to the head and

(58:18):
still managed to knock out Drago, Like yeah, okay, Anyway,
we have this infatuation with the idea of an underdog
in an upset, and yet we're we're completely contradictory when
it comes to actual television ratings, aren't we You track
any of the n c A championships, either in the
Bowl Championship Series back is the BCS or now with

(58:41):
the college football playoff, go to the NBA, to the NFL,
Like the numbers are bigger when the favorites are in it.
Kobe Bryant had some interesting things to say to Jackie McMullan.
Some of the that about Isaiah Thomas, but he also
said he was asked whether he thought it was bad
add for basketball for the Warriors and Cavaliers to match

(59:03):
up for a third consecutive time. He said, quote, why
is it bad for basketball? That makes no sense? Just
because it's preordained. That's a bad thing. I know I'm
gonna wake up in the morning. Is that a bad thing.
I don't think it is. I don't really understand that metaphor,
do you guys get that metaphor? Just it's not preordained
that you're gonna wake up in the morning. You're gonna
wake up in the morning because you're a human being.
Like I think, I like to think that it's preordained

(59:24):
that I'll wake up in the morning. I mean, I
hope it's preordained, but I don't know that's I mean,
eventually you may have some questions as to whether or
not that's a certainty. But as of right now and
for the foreseeable future, I would like to think that's preordained.
But I don't know if that's is that the bright
is that I don't think preordained is actually the right

(59:47):
term for for the fact you're gonna wake up in
the morning. Predetermined it is predetermined, which is preordained? Like
what the definition of certainty? Ordained? Okay? Uh? The decition
of definition is to decide or determine an outcome beforehand.

(01:00:07):
That's not pre preordained. It is. It's it's predetermined. It's
it's physiology. It's not preordained you are going to wake
up in the morning, and it has been decided. But
it hasn't been decided by a person, right, It's been
decided by your body, by nature. Preordained is like, all right,

(01:00:29):
we set it up, and it's a setup deal. The
game is rigged if you will, it's preordained. I don't
actually think it's a bad thing. I think when we
look back, I mean, what are the most popular video
games in basketball history? It's Lakers versus Celtics and the
NBA Finals. It felt like they didn't meet every year,

(01:00:51):
but it sure felt like they did. And oh yeah,
by the way, if the NBA could have preordained that
Kobe and Lebron would have matched up in the finals,
they would have or the Lakers. The highest rated series
recently was the Laker until last year was the Lakers
versus the Celtics, right when Kobe's team took out on
the Celtics. Why because they had met private previously in

(01:01:13):
previous generations going back to Jerry West and Wilton, those
guys going forward to Magic and Larry Bird and Jabbar
and those guys going forward until when you had Kobe, Bryant,
Palgasol meeting up against Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierson for
your ray Allen as well. Right, so, uh, we actually

(01:01:33):
like the history of it. We actually like the idea
of a series to decide what series actually means. More,
I don't think Kobe is using preordained the way it
should be used. I think he's misusing it. But I
agree with him. It's not bad for basketball. It's what
everybody wants to see. It. The best players in the world,

(01:01:53):
the two best teams. And this is why the NBA
expanded to seven games for the first round. First round
used to litteral with upsets back when they had five games.
This is why Major League Baseball has that that totally
hokey wild card playing game, right where teams aren't really
in the play If you make the wild card game,
you're not in the player in the playing game. But

(01:02:15):
the idea was like, we want to punish you for
not winning your division, so you're gonna have to use
your best picture, presumably to win the wild card game.
Then that takes your ace out of starting the first
game in a series. And they've lengthened the series in
Major League Baseball. Why because they want to reward the
best regular season teams, and they want the stronger likelihood
of having those teams match up in the World Series.

(01:02:39):
And oh yeah, by the way, I also think they
expanded because they want the strongest likelihood of like the
Yankees and the Red Sox getting in because America doesn't
actually like underdogs. There is no this is all right,
I'm gonna let you in on a little industry secret here. Okay, Um,
the regime I worked for or at ESPN Radio was

(01:03:02):
not the same regime. That's that that is there now,
and I'm not here to take shots at ESPN Radio.
I'm tearing to paint an actual honest picture. And here's
the perfect parallel too. Why it's actually a good thing
if the Calves and the Warriors match up in the finals.
So when I was there, we'd have meetings, and I'm

(01:03:22):
not really a meeting guy, but we would have some
interesting meetings to which they had collected data, they had
listing groups, they had really studied the radio industry. Here's
what people are looking listening for, here's what you do
more of, here's should do less of. And they would
hand you a packet of things nationally, the trend and
what people want to hear what they don't want to hear.
Not Twitter, not I saw a text one day or

(01:03:45):
something that was written, not what I think. Here's the
actual data. So when I was at CBS Radio Sports Radio,
and they are great guys, They've been very successful in
local radio, and the feedback I would get would be, hey, man,
you should take more phone calls, and why don't you
have guests at the top of the hour. Now, taking

(01:04:06):
a guest at the top of the hour is really
kind of a local radio deal. You have a guest
and then you take calls or you react to that
guest the rest of it. But when you're doing national
radio in this time slot, I'm not on in every
market for three hours, so and most of you have
a life. You may be coming in from lunch, going
out to lunch, coming in from work, hopping in your

(01:04:27):
car long drive, didn't hear. So when you turn on
your radio at one o'clock, two o'clock, three o'clock, four o'clock,
five o'clock, wherever you are, we're on across the country.
Doug Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. I don't want the
first thing you hear to be me being welcoming in
a guest. I want you to hear my opinion of
the day, of the topic of the day. That's how
we lay it out. So that's what that's My feedback

(01:04:48):
to them was like, well, where's your data? Like I
understand you think taking phone calls is a good idea,
where you think having a guest at the top of
the hour is a good idea. Do you have data
to support your argument? Because I can't argue with data.
I can't argue with what listeners think and feel and

(01:05:08):
react to based upon a listing group based upon numbers
for National sports radio, I cannot. So you may the
parallel here is you may think that America likes an underdog,
that it's better if we don't know who's going to
be in the finals, And that sounds about right, like
there should be some somebody new. But the truth is

(01:05:31):
that a larger percentage of Americans. If you want to
grow the sport of basketball, the most likely, the likeliest
scenario based upon data is more people are gonna watch.
If it's Kobe versus Steph part and with Kevin Durant
Part three, it's data. It's inarguable it's ratings. Did they

(01:05:56):
say Kobe I meant Lebron. I apologize amazing. Remember we
were talking about there was a time, like a couple
of years ago, we were talking about Kobe being close
to Jordan's which I never bought it. I just I
was never there. Never there is Lebron close to Jordan?
Is he passing Jordan? Our friend Rob Parker will argue

(01:06:17):
with me. I don't even know we're gonna argue about,
but he will argue with me, probably about Lebron, co
Lebron and uh and and MJ or maybe we'll agree.
You'll find out if we find out what's trending Doug
got Leaves Show, Fox Sports Radio. Uh quick shout out
to my man Tony Gonzalez, who was my high school

(01:06:38):
au teammate. He is the greatest tight end of all
time and he is now. It's just announced today a
new member of the Fox Sports family. So music, if
you can't get Tony Gonzalez on or um or or
if Cindy she can't get mean, we gotta get Tony
Gonzalez and we gotta have to have it done. I
can't believe we didn't announce it on the Doug got
Leaper Shop, but uh, dude, he's also he was. I

(01:07:02):
he wasn't the most skilled teammate I ever had, but
he might have been. This is kind of like my
monogenoble argument, Like we won because of Tony Gonzalez. He
found a way as a basketball player. We played AU
We won Fames Slam and Jam League, which was the
big AU league at the time in southern California, because
of Tony Gonzalez. Anyway, great dad, him on board. I
think he's gonna do the eleven o'clock pregame show. That's awesome.

(01:07:26):
Great dude, And he's one of those guys that you know,
some guys are annoying a wine guy where they can
like right, like that doesn't actually impress me when you're
a wine guy, like oh, let me let me check
out the one level. That's two thousand three. That's not
a good year. Like, uh, Tony, he's a beer guy.
You know, he's a new modelo ad. Have you guys
seen it as a new Madelo ad? And the Madelo

(01:07:46):
ad is accurate, Like every Sunday he actually has a
family dinner and they he's a he's actually huge into cooking,
but he's a big beer guy. Like he can chapter
and verse any beer. Every travels the world drinking beer,
which I guess if you have that kind of money.
He traveled War of It, right, I travel the world
looking for a place to stake anap That's just me.
We're welcome to welcome to Rob Parker, who we worked together. Man,

(01:08:10):
we're getting old. Many many moons ago, down moons ago.
Of course he has he and Mark Willard, who one
of my favorite dudes. I love Willard. He and Mark
Willard host the show after uh Weekend afternoons Saturday's Saturdays
won the four Eastern and ten am the one Pacific,
and you know what love working with Mark. What a

(01:08:30):
what a guy he is. Are just part of the
big Fox Sports radio family. And of course you can
see Rob on whether it's Undisputed, where it's the Call,
Cow Heard Show, The Herd, or on Speak for Yourself,
Speak for yourself. But sorry about that. Made an assumption
there you're supposed to go along with I know. I'm sorry,
but I'm not. I don't know if you got I
don't know. I don't know what happened there. Anyway, Rob

(01:08:52):
Parker joined us. Okay, so when I have long made
the argument like look, I'm a Jordan guy, but I'm
not so I'm not entrenched that I can't really appreciate
what Lebron is doing. And I do think that this
is the first time. I don't we never saw this
from Kobe. We didn't. People want to. They so badly

(01:09:12):
wanted to make Kobe Jordan because people forget when Kobe
first came in the league. He used to walk like Jordan,
used to talk like Jordan had the UH wristband on
his elbow. He used to sound like Michael Jordan if
you didn't see the video and just listen to him
right right. No, he wanted to be Jordan's, but he
was never Jordan because there was never that sense of inevitability,

(01:09:33):
like Jordan's gonna win this game. I don't know how
he'll figure it out, um, And he never quite figured
out what Jordan did to win championships. Where Jordan's finally
figured out, I have to trust my teammates. He would
get selfish. He didn't trust, he didn't have good teammates
and trust his teammates. They put him in the triangle,
created great spacing, and he now Lebron's different. But where Lebron,

(01:09:53):
I would say, is the same is there have we
have gotten to a place at least now where there's
a certain sense inevitability that he's going to find a way.
Where are you in the Jordan's versus Lebron debate? I
think that Michael Jordan's is the best player. I covered,
I've covered the NBA. I was there in Cleveland when

(01:10:14):
Michael Jordan hit that shot over craiggy Low. I could
just I saw so many of those things and watch them.
And that's not to take anything away from Lebron James,
and I think the differences when you talk about it,
because it's not strictly just the numbers count, and that
what a lot of people want to say, Well, if
Lebron wins six or seven, then he's better in Michael Jordan's. No, No,

(01:10:35):
it doesn't go like that because there's other guys who
have won a lot of championships. You know, Robert always
won what five or six or whatever. It doesn't It
doesn't make you the best player. Can I give you
one who's a better quarterback? Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady?
Aaron Rodgers is there's no doubt about it now, and
Aaron has one and Tom Brady has five to legitimately,

(01:10:59):
but that's another story. Legitimately that wasn't legitimate when they
just did this year, they're done, when the eight, the
three they came back and the last two championships. He's
got total gifts. Uh, choke job by Atlanta. I don't know.
Seattle gifted wrapped a super Bowl. The first Super Bowl
he got was another gift. They should have been that

(01:11:20):
they should have beaten the Giants. Dude. Wait, David Taffy,
who no one has ever heard of before or since,
caught a ball against his helmet, which was a terrible throw.
They shouldn't have beat it. But but Tom Brady were
eighteen and oh and got beat on a miracle catch.
But Tom Brady also overthrew Wes Welker with a wide

(01:11:41):
open he was wide open, came in the hand. No,
but that was a terrible pass from this and then
Mario Manningham made a great catch. I would agree, But Tom,
if you're going to if you're gonna say that Seattle
screwed up, and they did. If you're gonna say the
Atlanta screwed up and the play calling was awful, and
it was they the four times in the second half lead.

(01:12:02):
Then it would also be fair to say, hey, dude,
the David Tyree catch is a miracle. And also when
they beat the Panthers, I think it was uh it
wasn't know, but but it was also the kicker upunt
of punting the ball, kick the ball out of bounds.
I'm just saying. That's why I called Tom Brady the
load the luckiest of all time, because it's not that

(01:12:23):
he's not a great player. He said he's been. Everything
works his way. Julio Jones catches a great pass on
the sidelines first in gold doug at the twenty two.
I don't have to play one minute of football and
know I just need to rush the ball three times
on the ball right there, snap the ball and take

(01:12:46):
a knee. You don't even know one has to touch
the d We're getting so far, okay, alright, so here's
what we're gonna do. All right, So let me let
me give you a little bron, Let me get how
a bat can you do it in for real quick?
Lebron James is the Larry Holmes. Is is Larry Holmes

(01:13:06):
more so than Muhammad Ali. From this standpoint, he won't
get the recognition and the legacy will always be damaged
because of who he beat and the easy path. He's
had two finals out of the East. And I'll tell
you this, he ruined his own story by manipulating the
league instead of going through Chris Bosh, Dwayne Wade, say

(01:13:32):
if Derrick Rose was still healthy, Carmelo Anthony. What he
did is he joined those guys, not not all of them,
but joined them so that he would have an easier path.
So when you look at him, and it's the same
thing Larry Holmes was forty eight and old, and at
no time, Doug did anybody think he was the greatest
fighter ever, Not not once because of who he beat,

(01:13:54):
Because of the competition, who you beat matters. So the
question becomes, does that change if he takes down the
Golden State Warriors who won seventy three last year and
then added in Kevin Dramp. We'll get to that part
of the debate. Rob Parker continues to join us. That's
up coming next, Justin, Justin Turner of Rose Lawyers will

(01:14:18):
join us. Top of the hour. They to walk off
win last night? Didn't they walk off win? For the
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join us in studio. Fresh off of you go to Hooters,

(01:14:38):
you go to UM the Cheesecake Factory with NBC. Yeah,
GK Factory. The largest menu in all of America. That
is an incredible menu. It is. And I don't let
me forget. I got some wings that I got to go.
They were in a freege. I gotta take them on
the wings. Wait, you went there's had lunch. There's a
Buffalo wild wings right next. No, no no, no, but I

(01:14:58):
had lunch at shrimp and a Caesar salad, had a
real lunch. And then I said, let me order wing.
I've just figured the company's paying for I'll get wings too.
Oh that somebody else you're picking up. We used to
do that in college, Like we went to we needed
the we need a red lobster night before a game,
and guys would order would eat, and then they would
order just an extra dessert and order an extra extra

(01:15:19):
crab legs to go, And then you put in your fridge,
absolutely paying for it. Yea, um always a great employee.
Um got our bosses are listening to Rob Parker when
that when that reimbursement comes comes around. Okay, So the
Jordan's versus Lebron debate, it has to at least. I
don't think he's ever gonna pass Jordan's. I also think

(01:15:41):
he's greatly helped by the way in which the game's
officiate right because, as you and I know, back in
the back in the nineties, when Jordan was at his peak,
right basketball was throw it into the post, double team comes,
kick it out for a jump shot, or isolate your
best player on one side. The double team comes, he passed,
or he gets some shot. Now there's picking rolls. I

(01:16:03):
know you're trying to create a mismatch, but the big
thing is you can't post up because it's too physical
down there, and they can't touch you on the perimeter.
So everybody's playing away from the basket, and Lebron is
able to play down hill where if he played in
the nineties, a life sized player or a Scottie Pippen
who isn't as thick as Lebron, but he'd be able
to put that one hand on his hip and steer

(01:16:23):
him and he wouldn't get those straight line drives he gets. Now,
So does that take away from that's even that the
contextualization of the argument, that shows that it's a different game,
and though he's dominant, it's a different sort of dominance
from Georgiana. Absolutely, and and I think that and I
get it. I mean, I think there's so many Lebron
fans who just don't want to hear and they try

(01:16:44):
to make excuses and tell you why Michael Jordan's not
and who he didn't win with, and he didn't beat
the Celtics, and he didn't beat the Pistons, the Lakers.
Uh Kareem was old and magic was getting those magics
last year before he came down with hiv R and
all those different things and and whatnot. And I still
just go from the standpoint of the eye test. And

(01:17:07):
I did watch both of them, as I said, I
cover to the Nbass seven and I watched Michael Jordan's
and it wasn't a thing. It was Michael Jordan's. When
you watch him, you knew you were watching something special.
Even back you think you're watching something. But does it
change if they beat this Warrior's team, I think that
people will look at just it all depends and you
know what, he will have another notch and another reason

(01:17:30):
to say he's four and four and eight NBA Finals.
He made it to seven in a row. It would
it would separate him from maybe the other guys coming behind. Yes,
but will you will let definitely say he caught Michael
Jordan's I don't say how six and oh it's gonna
be caught when you've never been beaten, you want all
six m vps. It's it's interesting you point that out.

(01:17:50):
There's also this assumption that they're gonna win. Nobody ever
takes the other side to it. So if they lose
and he's three and five and eight NBA finals, now
what now? What would be the argument he didn't have this?
Or whoa they got Keming Duran? What do you expect?
You can't expect Lebron to beat that team and they
just added another superstar that will be to cry I
watch is that they had too much? Last question, Uh,

(01:18:14):
somebody else will make the finals. Pick the franchise that's
most likely to make the finals next Spurs. I hate
to say it. I wish it was Houston Spurs. But
I mean this year, I mean you mean in future years,
who's the closest to getting to that level. That's a

(01:18:35):
good question, and that's the sad part of I want
to say, Washington. You look at Boston. Can I really
sit here and say that Washington is gonna be there
in the NBA finals in a in a year or two.
I can't honestly say that. And that's the bad part
about the league. That's why the n b A is
a bad, bad league as we speak. I don't think
it's a bad I think it's a great league with

(01:18:56):
great young talent. I do think there's two teams that
are far better and the rest of it. Check out
Rob Parker this weekend one to four Eastern time on
Fox Sports Radio. Justin Turner of the l A Dodgers
will join us. What's with all these late game wins?
Find out next on The Doug Otlip Show. What Up
Doug Gotlieb Show rolls on Fox Sports Radio eight seven, seven,

(01:19:20):
six three six nine, eight seven seven ninety nine on
Fox Give us the call Ringy Dingy dingy. But not
right now though, because Justin Turner is gonna join us
in mere moments. Let me quickly give you a take
on last night's game, in which the Spurs found a
way to come from behind and take down the Houston
Rockets late by three, and the game culminated on an

(01:19:40):
incredible block from behind by the old man Mano Genobl. Look,
here's the thing about Monta genobl He's a Basketball Hall
of Famer Basketball of Famer um and it's one of
those things with old dudes to wear. It's much like
in life. You can't. You can and bring your a
game every night, but every once in a while you

(01:20:02):
remind people of the player that you used to be.
It's the I played it for you earlier that the
Toby Keith. I aint as good as I once was,
but I'm as good once as I ever was. There's
there's something to Genoble where he wins everywhere. He's been everywhere.
Italy two championships, Argentina World Championship, gold medal, Spurs four championships. Like,

(01:20:27):
there's just something. Two guys that find a way to
win games, don't believe me. Take the opposing coach, Mike
d'antoni's word for it. Well, figures that Mano at least
have one or two good games and on you know,
you knew that was going to happen. Um, that's why
he's a champion. He's great. He's been great on his
whole life, everywhere in Europe and then over here. He

(01:20:47):
has been great in Europe, and by my estimation, he
is in fact a Hall of Famer. Uh. Let's let's
let's come back to that in in moments, but first
let's let's welcome in. Um justin turn to the show,
fresh off get another walk off win at Chevez Ravine,
this one over the Pittsburgh Pirates, and just thanks so

(01:21:09):
much for joining us here on the Doug Gotlip Show
on on Fox Sports Radio. UM, what's like, what's your
go to in the celebration of walk off wins? You
guys have had a couple of this year, Like are
you a let's go get an ice bucket guy? Are you?
Are you one of the guy you to tackle the
tackle the hero guy? Like, what's your go to? Yeah,
it kind of depends on the guy. You know, last

(01:21:30):
night with Barnesy, younger guy, we got in there and
kind of tried to beat him up a little bit. So, uh,
you know, sometimes we'll grab the ice bucket dumping on
the guy. Um, sometimes we'll beat him up a little bit,
trying to rip his jersey off or something. But definitely
definitely depends on who it is. So do you get
any good looks in? I got a couple of good ones.

(01:21:51):
I mean I didn't tell him it was me though.
There's a bunch of guys around him, and you give
him some jobs and and uh, you know you've got
so much to draw only going He didn't feel anything anyway.
So who is who is take it too far? Guy?
Which one of your guys is? Oh? He Whether it's
whether it's playing topper going too far, the joke to
or or the celebration. Who is taking too far? Guy?

(01:22:13):
Because I saw you you got some jabs in, but
there's video of it you pulled out. Who's the guy
who takes it too far? Oh? Man? Probably Keik can
take it too far? Sometimes he uh, he gets a
little aggressive. I won't go into how but uh, it's
always it's always kind of funny. Justin Turner Jodious, Um,

(01:22:35):
this is kind of a fascinating year for your team.
Last year, there were there were so many injuries, right,
so many injuries to the rotation obviously this year, you
know you're Rich starts out once again. He's how does
he have a blister this early in the year. I
don't really get what's going on that he didn't have
the whole offseason to figure that thing out, and yet

(01:22:55):
the blister pops up again. Tell me there's some fix
to the blister. I know he's trying everything he can.
I think they got something figured out. Now he's actually
pitching today in San Jose. I think, uh, in the
rehab game. Um, but you know it is the way
he throws his curveball, and how many curveballs he throws,
it just keeps that seam right there, just keeps ripping

(01:23:17):
right on the right on the fingertip, And um, I
think they got a few things figgured out. We've had
We've had trainers and and bullpen coaches trying all these
different things and going out and just throwing a hunter
baseballs into a wall and seeing how it holds up.
And uh, so they're they're they're getting to the bottom
of it, and hopefully today goes well for him, and

(01:23:38):
uh he'll be back pitching for us hopefully in tan Ferancisco.
You guys want eight out of your last ten. You've
done so without rich Hill. I know Tolls went down,
he ran into the wall and got hurt. Like again,
what what is it with your team to which last
year couldn't stay healthy this year can't stay healthy? Yeah,
I said it last year too. You gotta tip your
hat to Andrew and far on the front office. And uh,

(01:24:02):
you know for the depth that they've created. You know,
when guys go down, it seems like someone comes someone
else comes up and just steps right in. You look
at UH told me last year Chris Taylor what he's
doing for us this year? Uh with Logan Foreside going down.
So um, you know, the depth that they've gone out
and they've acquired and they have in the organization. Uh

(01:24:22):
makes it really tough on on Dave On on Doc
because he's got to tell a lot of good players
that they got to play in in the minor leagues.
But at the same time, when when someone gets hurt
or someone goes down, we know we have a really
good caliber player coming up to step right in and
and we don't miss a beat. Justin Turner joining us
the third basement for the l A Dodgers. Dodgers have

(01:24:44):
won eight of their last ten. Uh, if you haven't
been following Justin's season, Like if you go old school
and you go batting average is hitting three seventy two,
which is sick, right, that's insane numbers. When you go
to O b P, he's also six and ov P.
Like you're on base forty five of the time, like that,
that is a remarkable, remarkable numbers. And you've done so

(01:25:05):
without taking a bunch of walks, Right, how is it?
How have you managed? Like what's what's the trick to
finding a way to always being on base? Do you
stand really the play and get hit all the time?
I think I think I got more of my bunches
than walks already this year. So uh yeah, it's just
it's kind of ap and blows this season. I think

(01:25:27):
walks come in bunches, Um, they kind of go hand
in hand. I also wasn't striking out a bunch in
the beginning of the year, and uh you know sometimes,
uh the only way to walk is you're missing good
pitches to hit. And then and so far in the
beginning of the year, you know, I've been hitting those balls,
uh and not telling them off and uh, you know,

(01:25:50):
that's one way to to get walks. You you miss
good pitches to hit and then you end up walking.
But when you're when you're hitting those balls and you
don't really get the cash to walk. You know, we
we've talked a bunch about this in regards to basketball,
right like, the foregone conclusion that it's going to be
the Warriors and the Calves in the finals. It does
feel like, and you can tell me if I'm wrong,
it does feel like a foregone conclusion that you the

(01:26:12):
Gnats and the Cubs are going to be in the playoffs,
right Like, that's it feels like a foe guy. And
I know that in the midst of it, right now,
you're like, hey, dude, we're just trying to keep our
head above water. We got all these injuries. We don't
have rich we don't have rich children. You can do
that in basketball and in football and and just look
on paper. But baseball is a crazy game, man. A
lot of stuff can happen. And uh, just because one

(01:26:34):
team is supposed to be, uh, you know, the best
team that year, it doesn't always work out that way.
You know, you still got to go out and play
the game. You still got to find a way to
get hits, and uh, you know, you see it every
year we have that Cinderella team or that surprise team
that they're playing really good that everyone wrote off. And
there's also that team that everyone expects to be really

(01:26:55):
really good and and for whatever reason, they can't figure
it out. So that's that's part of the And then
you know, I love this game so much, is just
not you can't take anything for granted. Justin Turner joining
us GOTLI show Fox Sports Radio. It's true, but like
the Giants are as bad as they've been in a decade, right,
like San Diego still has like it feels like the

(01:27:15):
division the Rockies are a nice story, but like nobody,
I know you guys are going out there, uh of
coming tomorrow after after today's game, but it doesn't feel
like there's ever the true buying over Colorado's ability to
get the quality pitching and they just get worn down
by playing those long games at home. I don't know,
I just I feel like that's what all of us expect.

(01:27:37):
What's it like to deal with those expectations of Dodgers
gonna be the playoffs, Kershaw is gonna go to the
seventh inning, and that's gonna decide whether or not they
go to the World Series. That's what That's what common
sports fan thinks. What's it like to deal with those expectations?
I think, Uh, I think expectations are the thing that
you know, us as as the players, as the athletes

(01:27:57):
try to avoid. You know, you have expectations and you
expect things to go a certain way and they don't.
It's pretty crushing for you. So if you can just
take that out of the equation and and kind of
trust the process and go about your business every day, Uh,
not worrying about the next day, I think that's where,
you know, you find success. And I think that's something
we've done a really good job of, especially the last

(01:28:18):
couple of years. It's not worrying about, you know, what
everyone says we're supposed to be and just showing up
and playing every day. When when the Matt Harvey news
came down, did you guys, is there ever any Is
there any discussion about that in your clubhouse? Oh? Yeah,
Everything that goes on in the league is is always
talked about and brought up, and uh, you know, the

(01:28:39):
hard part is that you never know all the facts.
You never know the real story until you actually talked
to him or whoever it is involved, and uh, you know,
you just hope everything works out for both sides and
they figure it out and they move forward. Yeah, it's
it's crazy though that, like, uh, it's it's got to
be so much different now for you guys opposed to

(01:29:00):
ten years ago, right where now, because of social media,
you go out, you have a couple of pops with
some fellas. You know, maybe somebody finds out about it.
But now there's like an immediacy to it. And and
being in l A and look, you haven't been in
New York as well, you know, like they're just such
a there's such a different it's so it's so magnified
when you're there, if you're out at a club as

(01:29:20):
opposed to like early in your career, when you're in Baltimore,
right or when you're in Pittsburgh. And I'm not gonna
say nobody knows, nobody cares, but it doesn't. It's it
doesn't ring the same in terms of level of importance.
That's fair, isn't it. Yeah? You know, and and like
you said, with social media nowadays, anyone can jump on
and and tweet sumthing. So and so is here, so

(01:29:41):
and so is there, and you know, it don't even
have to be true. They can write whatever they want.
And sometimes it gets, uh, you know, kind of gets
carried away and these stories get blown out of proportion
and people are speculating right away on what's happening, and uh,
you know, it takes a few days at least, you know,
to get to the bottom of it and find out
what's really going on. And U but you do have
to be careful, man. It's it's definitely a different world,

(01:30:03):
and uh, you don't want to get you know, caught
up with with the wrong crowd or or in a
wrong place and then you know, wake up the next
morning and have it be headline news all over the place,
no question. Julio takes a no hitter into the seventh,
the pitching staff sets a season record for strikeouts. All
anybody's talking about, obviously, is that Barnes double that ends
up in the walk off when you guys want eight

(01:30:23):
out of ten. Hey man, best of luck today against
the Pirates. Appreciate you joined us. Look forward to catching
up soon here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, thanks for
having to appreciate it, all right, that's at Red Turner
to Justin Turner, I've never been a big beard guy.
And as I've I've told you, like, I've never been
a big beard guy. He's a b He obviously a

(01:30:45):
huge beard guy that like your idol Ryan, Like you
do you like that sort of that look? I won't.
I grew up pretty thick beard, not quite to the
Justin Turner extent. I would never go back to big
beard that big again. I didn't you notice I didn't
ask him about the the ingrown hair that led It

(01:31:05):
was like two years ago, right yet that like it
was almost like if you ever had a nasty and
grown hair actually went to the hospitals, so it got infected,
and I think it was like a huge it's like
a huge ZiT type deal. Like, but I wanted to
establish some sort of trust first, like that this is
a safe Like I can't come out and go, hey, dude,
a couple years ago, you had a huge ZiT on
your leg? What's that all about? Did you not bathe

(01:31:25):
for like a week. I didn't want to. I don't
want to break out with that, you know, like I
want to have him on then I'll go out to
the stadium and watch a game, shake his hand and
be like, hey, you know, like at some point I
gotta get to the ZiT story. You're like, what's it like?
The legs? It like, Oh, it was the legs and
grown hair, Like sure it wasn't um right, So then
then then we'll hit him with it. Then we'll get
the story. Is that cool? Sounds good? That's the plan.

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I'm never sorry. I'm just not a I'm not a

(01:32:51):
big buyer into Colorado as a challenger in the NLS,
just because the attrition of that stadium, the altitude, the
size of the field there. Like we all, I don't
know how many of you guys are baseball. Layman's are
like truly ingrained in baseball. The assumption is that you
just hit more home runs in in cours, but the

(01:33:11):
fact is the field is so big that is actually
just more hits in general, right, and that taxes your bullpen.
And we talked about this a little bit yesterday day
before with the Yankees and the Cubs going to eighteen innings,
and what that does is it's terrible for baseball. Because
it ruins your bullpen. You gotta send a couple of
guys down, get a couple of fresh arms up from

(01:33:33):
the minor leagues. That's basically everyday life for the Colorado Rockies.
So I think that that stadium inflates your numbers, but
that stadium will kill your chances of having arms fresh
enough for the postseason. And I have history on my side. Wait,
Giants are not very good right now either. Giants are

(01:33:54):
in the last place. Like everybody always thinks, like, well,
figure it out, they have not figured it out. Not
figured it out. They got all excited because Bomb Gardner
opening day home to home runs and he's bumb Gardener
and that team thinks anyway, speaking of history being on
my side, it's a great article from Tom Current of

(01:34:14):
Comcast Sports Net New England wherese they cover, among other things,
the New England Patriots. Uh. He starts by saying, look,
Tom Brady is thirty nine years old. Hasn't showed any
showed any signs. Do you say showed or shown hasn't
shown it? I don't look. He's the writer somehow got approved.
We'll go with showed showed any signs of slowing. But
Jimmy Garoppolo's contract doesn't last reverence. The Patriots believe he's

(01:34:36):
the quarterback in the future. Bill Belichick might have to
nudge Brady out of the starting rule once the franchise
gives Garoppolo's starting money. Quote the night Garoppolo was drafted
and Belichick mentioned Brady's age and contract situation, the endgame
was underway. It's taken a little longer to arrive because
Brady has beaten back with the Garoppolo challenge with the

(01:34:56):
best football of his life. But that's probably the only
reason the Patriots haven't pulled the ripport already. That's probably
a pretty good reason. By the way, the Patriots don't
necessarily trade a starter when his backup is better than him.
They trade a starter when in a season or two
the backup will be cheaper approximately as good as the
starter yields return in a trade. So here's the thing

(01:35:17):
to any of you. Everyone knows Father Time is undefeated.
It's just a matter off when Father Time decides to
check into the game, and you can only do the
avocado ice cream for so long, to which eventually it's
gonna kept up catch up to you. Now he's at
a position which ages well, and he's been able to
take care of his body, and they built a team
around him who protects him. He's smart enough to get

(01:35:38):
rid of the football and not take big hits. But
at some point in time it's gonna catch up to him.
And where does you think this is. It's craziness that
will never happen. It's Tom Brady, where Joe Montana finished
his career, where Brett Farr finished his career. Peyton Manning,
granted got hurt, had multiple surgeries, but he was coming

(01:36:00):
act ended up having statistically the most successful year in
the history of the position in Denver. And if you
ask the Colts would you make that move again, they'd
say absolutely not just not just because they got Andrew
Luck and they kept Andrew Luck, not just because of that.
Andrew Luck also was more cost effective his first couple

(01:36:22):
of years then it would have been had they had
Peyton Mannick. Did they screw up some of the some
of the use of that money, sure, but it made
them They were a playoff team. They went to the
FC Championship, right, and that likely wouldn't have been possible
because you would have had to play pay Peyton Manning, Payton,
Manning Money. You got to use history as your guide

(01:36:48):
history with the Patriots, Richard seymour Um like, you just
kind of go through Logan Mankins, and I understand that
Brady is not Logan Mankins. How On, Brady's dad even
came out like, yeah, it's probably gonna happen. At some point.
It's going to happen. And my guess is that they
look there and they're like, well, why would we trade

(01:37:10):
Jimmy Garoppolo when we think he's just starting quarterback in
the NFL? Is the hardest things to find. Let's just
play this thing out out. As long as we can
play this thing out, keep kicking that can down the road,
and eventually we'll have to make a decision, and we
know what the decision is gonna be. We just don't
need to make that decision right now. We're coming off
of Super Bowl. Their favorites that they're the over under

(01:37:34):
is what is it? Twelve and a half games? Is
that what we said it was yesterday? Twelve and a
half games of the over under? They're they're they're the
favorites to win the Super They won the Super Bowl
without their best offensive player, it's not Tom Brady, it's
Rob Gronkowski. Rob Gronkowski is a mismatch in the NFL,
the ultimate mismatch. There's nobody who can put on him

(01:37:55):
to which he does not. He cannot get open um,
and they put better pieces around them. So there's a
chance that my guests would be that even if it
works out this year, they don't get rid of Garoppolo.
Why would they you keep him? He signed to a
contract somewhere in between what a starter and what a

(01:38:17):
backup makes and you backloaded knowing that Tom Brady, now
he'd be forty he can say everybody says, how long
do you want to do? The odd? Tom forty five?
It sounds great, Tommy, but at some point he'll be replaced,
whether he's traded or whether he's released, whether he retired,
that that's all for the future to decide. But to

(01:38:38):
say it will never ever happen, period. This is the
way it works. This is the way it works. And
do I think I can trace it back to draft Day? Maybe?
I also think on draft Day that was that was
Bill Belichick tweaking his quarterback. Like the reason Belichick is

(01:38:59):
great is because is he tweaks his quarterback in front
of the the rest of the team. He tweaks his quarterback
to the media and even when they're and and look,
Brady's response was to take less money over a longer
period of time. And maybe the best thing about New
England is what happens everywhere else is probably not gonna

(01:39:19):
happen there, which is owner's own. Do you guys know
what owners own means? There's an expression in the NFL
inside NFL circles and they'll say owners own, Like what
does that mean? That means that you can have a
group of people collect data on the best people to draft,
best people to acquire. You can have a general manager
of president that no football their whole lives, a head

(01:39:40):
coach that has a great relationship with all these people
and they come to a collective decision they go like,
this is what we want to do, and the other
it can go, that's awesome. I love how hard you
guys were, but I want to do something else because
I put in three d million dollars or four hundred
million dollars and that's my team. And you know what
that the manager can say nothing, you know what, the

(01:40:02):
president can say nothing. You know like Jimmy has them.
Remember when they drafted Johnny Manzel. When they drafted Johnny Manzel,
their front office is like, look, we like Teddy Bridgewater,
we like Derek Car, we like this. We don't really
like like we don't think Johnny Menzel is a good
value in the first round. And and Jimmy hasn't walked in.

(01:40:22):
It's like, that's great, I hear you. I know, we
got an analytics staff. That's a great job. Good so,
but Teddy Bridgewater most likely to be the most successful quarterback. Okay,
I like that. It's good. Oh your player breakdown. You
guys like Derek Car That's that's awesome. Here's gonna do.
We're gonna draft Johnny Menzel because we're gonna Seldiers, are
gonna fillip Stadium. It's gonna bring excitement. And what are
you gonna say? You know what owners owned? And if

(01:40:43):
you we all have bosses unless you own your own business,
and your boss can sometimes take in your input and
then go. And I want to do something completely different,
and part of the thing would being employees. You have
to go. Okay, doesn't happen that way in New England, right,
Robert Kraft Trust Bill Belichick. He's allowed Bill Belichick to
have complete football autonomy. He's rewarded with all that jewelry,

(01:41:06):
the five Super Bowl rings. Owner doesn't own there owners yet, Ryan,
you had your hand out. What is there any chance
that part of what happened with Tony Romo was he
was no longer going to be the starting quarterback for
the Cowboys, and then so he decided that he wanted
to retire. Any chance that Tom Brady looks at the

(01:41:28):
situation and goes, you know what if I can't be
the starting quarterback for the New England Patriots, I don't
want to be a quarterback for any other team and
just decides to retire. Possibly possibly, I think I do
think that there The team to track is the Niners.
Can the Niners build enough talent over the next couple
of years? Grew up in northern California, grow Montana fan.

(01:41:49):
Does he go and and you know Kyle Shanahans a
quarterback guy? That would be the one team you could
track and go like, hey, I want to go do it? Um,
I want to go do it? So but could you say,
like I mean, like, does he want to go play
in Jacksonville? No? And do you want to play for
the Jets and you want to go to Kansay Like no,

(01:42:13):
like you've been the even to the top of the mountain,
Like that's it's kind of slum. But the thing that's
interesting about tom is but playing you guys are close
friends and me and me and Tommy go way back.
And think It's interesting about Brady is when he plays
in New England, which is already like an East Coast team,
they play outdoors in the weather. So as he gets

(01:42:33):
older and he's playing indoors, Well, that's that's actually it's
funny you bring that up. It's the least discussed part
of football. The least discussed part of football is like
Peyton Manning was great, and this is kind of like
the context of Lebron James and how the game has changed,
Like Kurt Warner could only play indoors, could only play

(01:42:55):
in the shotguns. Peyton Manning was small. I thought it
was silly to go play outdoors in Denver. But Denver
does give you more, It gives you a stronger arm
because the altitude like Houston would have been smart for
Tony Romo because it was indoors, controlled environment. Ask any
of these quarterbacks like it's a if you throw the

(01:43:16):
ball fifty yards, it goes to fifty yards. It actually
also speaks to the greatness of Aaron Rodgers. He didn't
play with you can Jordy Nelson has been great, but
he's not great anymore. But I mean it hasn't played
with the star study and he's playing in the worst
weather possible. You remember when when the Broncos lost to
the Ravens and ray Lewis Is last year when the

(01:43:39):
Ravens won the Super Bowl, right, Well, the story of
that game was Peyman couldn't throw football because it was
too windy. So yeah, I do think that playing indoors
or playing in northern California is also another place. But
Tom Brady has been able to do it playing in
terrible weather. He's a great bad weather quarterback, great bad
weather quarterback. Well, Los Angeles, the city we're broadcasting from,

(01:44:06):
be getting the Olympics again. It would be the third time.
Actually we'll discuss as part of the press after we
find out what's trending. Doug Otlip Show, Fox Sports Radio
Break Bash roll Smash, break, bash roll smash. All right,

(01:44:33):
we got a bunch of things to get to and
I want to get to all of them. This is
the Doug Otlip Show. Every day about this time, exactly
this time, we try and run through as many of
the different stories breaking evolving in the world of sports
as possible, with the help of our good friend Dan Fire.
We call it the press, the press, Big deal, little deal.

(01:44:55):
How about no deal for that game? John Ramos, Hey,
rob Us is day drinking? It's It's okay, Uh, combining
it all together, it's won't we do? Hey, it's it's
a hump day. We're uh, we're looking at the end
of the week. Hey, yes, it is the press and
Doug you touched on it earlier. The Olympics could be
coming to Los Angeles, and the International Olympic Committee is

(01:45:17):
in l A today for the first of three days
of meetings and visits as the city looks to host
Summer Olympics. Now the l A bid projects the games
to cost about five point three billion dollars. Paris is
the other finalists, Doug and the loser could be awarded
the summer Games. Uh. I think the interesting part is
this has I was around her in the eighty four Games.

(01:45:37):
Obviously it's more populated area, but uh, and there Look,
there's already a plan in the books to redo the Colosseum,
which has been promised honestly since the eighty four Like
that's why the Raiders moved down to begin with, right, um,
But the infrastructure in terms of stadiums is better. Like, look,
I think the way this thing is bid is all wrong.

(01:45:59):
I think, first of all, Paris, with the terror attacks
of last year, that's got to be a I know
it's a long time in the future. We're talking about
two thousand twenty four. I gotta think that's that's tough
to say the world will be safer. I also think
that the game's needs America. We're more engaged, we pay
more money for the rights. It's more important when it's
on our soil, I think. But I also think I

(01:46:22):
wouldn't bid the way other people bid. I just wouldn't.
I would say they, look, here's the deal. You're gonna
make more money if you're here. But we already have
the infrastructure. We need. The roads need work, we need
high speed rail, which is already again being built. To me,
this is kind of a no brainer for l A
to go all in. But go all in smartly and
help it build the infrastructure of the entire state, not

(01:46:46):
the infrastructure of stadiums. By then, the RAMS stadium is
gonna be done right, the Chargers playing with it. You
already have Major League Soccer, you still have the Rose
Bowl that can be revamped, you have the Colosseum, you
have the pond Anaheim State. You've got almost everything you
need in terms of stadiums, So it wouldn't be the
barren waste land of other countries who build these stadiums

(01:47:09):
and then evacuate them and never use them at like
we've seen from Brazil with the World Cup and the Olympics.
Like this is kind of a no brainer to me,
and I think the sales should be, honestly, kind of
turn it on its head. You need us as much
as we need you. We're gonna build the infrastructure, We're
gonna have the traffic, and it's going to help you

(01:47:30):
revitalize the Olympics, which kind of, in all honesty, kind
of kind of hit alone the past couple of times.
And your point about the Colisseum is well taken, because
I know that the two save wear and tear. The
RAMS didn't use the end zones last year, try to

(01:47:51):
stay off of it. Hey, how about this a follow
up of a story that we did do earlier in
Gottlieb's Sack on one of the chances, you said that, uh,
Isaiah Thomas would be fine, that the chances were about
a hundred percent, and he was find dollars within the
last hour. Doug, what if they would have washed his mouth?
That was so like, all right, here's the deal. You

(01:48:12):
did your mom ever wash your mouth? That was so
no minded mind? Yeah? Yeah, wash my mouth that was
so didn't work. Obviously, you guys have heard me with
his microphones not bab baby, but she watched me. So
Isaiah Thomas said, I will f you up and Adam
Silver said that will cost you can engage And you

(01:48:34):
touched on it earlier as well, saying like, you know,
fans shouldn't have the right to say everything, to say
anything they want, but when you respond that way. Have
you ever heard Bill Burr's uh a bit on the
Malice of the Palace? No, it's great. You gotta search
YouTube for Bill Burke Median very funny. He's also got
a really good podcast. Bill Burr um after the Mouth

(01:48:55):
of the Palace and did you guys, do you see
the mouth palace? Like that was my favorite moment in
the history of sports. They'll tell you why. Like for
years guys have been like, what's come up here? What's
come up here? He's like, they did come up there.
It was like a cartoons just wipe me out rows
of people. Hey, and and as I'll quote, uh, I
believe this is from Unforgiven Academy Award winning movie Unforgiven, Right,

(01:49:17):
Morgan Freeman and Clint Eastwood. Right, everybody's got to come
into him. Sometimes Boston Celtics could have the number one
overall pick coming to them as well. Sure, they play
the Wizards tonight in Game five, but they have other
matters at hand. The Celtics reportedly interviewing Mark l faults
at the NBA Combine is the Celtics have the Nets
overall number first round pick that could be number one overall.

(01:49:39):
So the Celtics talking to Mark el Foltz today, Yeah,
this is not even a draft pick they traded for.
They traded for the ability to trade picks with the Nets.
It's the greatest heist in the history of the NBA.
Um mark el Folts is the most talented guard in
a field of very talented guards. He checks a lot
of boxes. I don't know if he makes everybody better,
but he makes every any better because he's so talented.

(01:50:01):
He's a much better shooter than Lonzo Ball. And then uh,
dearon Fox, really really skilled kid. Would be stunned if
he didn't go number one overall. Down in your neck
of the woods, duck skating in a game seven tonight
against the Edmonton Oilers. Two games sevens though in the
Stanley Cup playoffs, the other one in the Eastern Conference,
Pens and Capitals in d C coming up in less
than two hours. Like, this is the game for Alexovedkin? Right?

(01:50:23):
Can you finally get past the Penguins? Can they can
finally get get to the They have to get the
Eastern Finals and they have to get to the obviously
the Stanley Cup Finals, Like this is a a career
defining game. Isn't a career defined night? You're down three
one as well, and now you've been able to force
the three three time you got it at home? Who

(01:50:44):
comes back from three one? Oh? Apparently everybody comes back. Hey,
I'm Michaelobalter is starting a promotion this week at the
Players Championship that if Brooks kept records a hole in one,
fans who signed up online will receive nine cases of beer.
The winning prize would be spread out of over four
years and includes in all, two thousand, two hundred and
eighty beers. The promotion will span the next ten tournaments

(01:51:07):
for Kepta, So if he records a hole in one
in one of those ten tournaments, yes, somebody can win
over nine cases. Of all you have to do is
sign up. You got to sign up, and he yes,
and he's got to record a hole in one, something
he's never done, understand, But like, all you have to
do is sign up. Yes, Like you don't have to
pay any money. I'm signing up now, like I well

(01:51:29):
and the press. It's not the Champagne of beers, but
it is ultra, which is low and calories, like we
could you know, Ramos could throw down at least sixteen
of those. That's part of the thing too, because it's
like ninety five calories or something. Yeah, yeah, I don't
really understand the tie there with ninety five calories. But
like you're not gonna shoot a ninety five, you shoot

(01:51:50):
a hole in one. I've always said that Mountain Deers
should come out with a two calorie soda called Mountain Deuce.
And I don't know why they haven't done it yet,
but if they do, you know where you heard it first.
Um quickly Carter Wilkinson's tweet now the most popular ever.
He was the Nevada teenager who, when asking Wendy's on
how many retweets it would take for him to get
free chicken nuggets for a year, they said eighteen million.

(01:52:11):
Well he got three point four million. That makes it
the most popular tweet ever retweeted, even passing Ellen's Oscar's tweet.
Wendy's is gonna give him the chicken nuggets for a
year anyway, but three point four million dollars for a
guy who want a chicken nuggets. Let shout out to
Wendy's here, um, most underrated of the fast food chains

(01:52:31):
with the burgers. That's real meat. I like the square
of the deal, like munths, I like everything about it.
I'm not huge on your fries, Wendy's, if you could
change that, I've had every one of the burgers. I'm
not saying anything negative about any fast food joint because
if we want them all to sponsor show. I will
tell you though, that when people discuss things that like
we bring up all these other places, nobody brings up Wendy's.

(01:52:52):
Wendy's is solid, and Wendy's has really really good chicken,
really good chicken as well. Bag it out there and
pressed that was the frost and the frosty thing, and
the frosty is good too. Probably can't go wrong with
the frosty. God, I miss my fast food days. It's
not I I confided in music that I'm trying to
I'm not fat, I'm not I'm but I want to

(01:53:13):
get really really good shape, really good shape, because my
wife is when she comes out like she's coming out
next week. I see her on the weekends, flying back
and forth. I wanted to think, like, that's a good
honk and piece of meat right there. I'm man when
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Colin Cowherd had to say about the NBA finals and
how it can determine the future of NBA free agency.
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I did not know that. I'm in the market for
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(01:54:17):
like an electric car, all electric. You get to drive
in the h ov lane mostly electric, right, Like mostly
electric is like volt or that UM the car that
Will Smith had in one of his futuristic movies. I
can't remember which one it was. He wasn't in Minority Report.
I feel like his Minority Report, but it's not anyway

(01:54:38):
Will Smith was. I think it was one of those movies.
You drove the the you know, the BMW that's like
gas but also electric, like that when you can drip
like a test obviously is all electric. So I'm like torn, like,
do I get a nice car? Do I get a
sensible car. Do I get a sensible car that's partially
electric or do I get an all electric car? I
don't know. I'll up to chillis. I almost never do

(01:55:03):
the sensible thing. I had a I drove a pickup
truck into New York City every day. It's like fifty
miles each way. Like why like because I really like
I had like one of the Chevy didnali pickup trucks.
I understand Chevy GMC didn't only pick up trucks. I've
owned like every kind of car I and I've been
lucky knock would have never had like, never ever had
a Lemon. I've never had a limon. H I never

(01:55:26):
had what kind of Well, you don't want to say
what card is, Yeah, but bad always always. It just
does weird stuff that cars shouldn't do. Some people say
that about you. Let's find out what the Fox said.
The idea that what the Fox said was we try
and find something that somebody said earlier on Fox Sports

(01:55:47):
Radio or sometimes Fox uh TV that makes you think
and maybe makes you react. Here's what Colin Coward had
to say about the possibility of the NBA Finals giving
us not just a victor but maybe maybe a sign
of what's to come from free agency. What is the
one thing that would keep everybody with their same team?

(01:56:09):
Meaning Gordon Hayward wouldn't leave Utah any may, Chris Paul
wouldn't leave the Clippers, an he may, Paul George wouldn't
leave the Pacers, and he probably will. What will keep
them in your town? The Warriors crushing the Cavaliers, the
sense they have no chance to beat the Warriors. The
Gordon Hayward knows he has no chance to win in

(01:56:29):
Boston either, that Chris Paul knows he can't win in
San Antonio either. If the Warriors destroy everybody and they're
all still in their prime, why leave? So sometimes dominance
is not a terrible thing. It's an interesting theory or
maybe hypotheses. We'll see how it plays out if in fact,
the Warriors do win. My guests would be though NBA players,

(01:56:53):
if if they if winning is more important than money,
then they're going to leave anyway. If place where you
live is more important than money, than they're gonna leave anyway.
But here's the thing, Like that sounds great, But you
mean to tell me if the Warriors win that that's
not gonna make Carmelo Anthony want to play with Chris
Paul in l A. It's not it's not gonna change anything.
Um and oh yeah, by the way, Kevin Durant left

(01:57:15):
Oklahoma City to join the Warriors, it would cause maybe
somebody else, like a Dwyane Wade to join the Cavaliers
to try and team up. And again it's like a
game of topper. Oh you add him, I'm gonna add him.
I look, I I do think it comes down to
how you're wired. If you're willing to put yourself out there,
if you're willing to change cities, change jobs. Some people

(01:57:39):
like where they are, don't want to mess with happy,
like being a big fish in a little pond, regardless
of what they say, and like making a little more money,
which you do when you stay. And some people want
the risk. I don't. I don't think the outcome of
a series will determine free agency for an entire league.
But we'll see Dana White tomorrow, Jared Dudley tomorrow. Remember

(01:58:01):
Jared Dudley was part of that first Clipper crew under
Doc Rivers, and he got dusted off kind of early.
How do you fix the Clippers We'll ask him he'll
join us tomorrow. Is he join us tomorrow in studio?
He can join a studio? Who lives in l A
And why does? Why doesn't it uncertain? That's tomorrow on
The dug Out Lip Show, Fox Sports Radio

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