Mookie Betts is a rich man!

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only do we have NBA scrimmages starting, we may have
some good news for college football fans, but on the
eve of the start of the Major League Baseball season,
we have a huge, enormous deal done in Los Angeles
Aaron Torres. Mookie Betts is gonna stick around with the Dodgers.

(00:51):
This is what's amazing. And for those of you that
may have missed what Steve de Seger said from the
news desk, this was a guy who had a offer
to stay in Boston or a ten year deal. Does
he say he's He basically says I don't want ten,
I want thirteen. Then the Dodgers are like, hey, al right, okay, yeah, alright,
we'll do the trade. A thirteen year deal for Mookie

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Bets is our headline today. Absolutely astronomical. One first of all, Dan,
great to be here too. Did not know I was
filling in with Tony Robbins today. I love the positivity
coming out of you. NBA's back college sports. You've got
some good news that I don't even know where you're going.
And uh, I think baseball fiscally is going to be

(01:32):
fine if we're giving almost four million to Mookie Bets,
but uh, surreal. Obviously a landscape changing decision for baseball,
not just for this coming sixty game season, but for
the next decade and change and one. I'm glad to
be in with you and to it certainly sounds like
we've got plenty to talk about over these next couple
of hours. There is there is a lot to get

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to and what is what is crazy, Aaron is I
don't know if you know this, but John Ramos's son
turned one year old yesterday. No, No, his name is
Jonah a k A. Jonah Bear is as he has known.
But by the time the mookie Bets deal ends, Jonah
will be in a second year of med school. So

(02:15):
there is that, John, So you have at least that
going for you, that the mookie Bets deal. These are
the numbers that thirteen years, three hundred and eighty million dollars.
And there was a point in this pandemic, and during
the lead up to the season, that we weren't sure

(02:36):
if Mookie Betts was even going to play one game
in a Dodger uniform because there could have been the
possibility of no season. And then he ends up hitting
free agency. But I think that there are a lot
of reasons why Mookie Betts ended up getting this deal
from the Dodgers. And what's even crazier, Aaron and all
of this is this is happening in a pandemic where

(02:59):
there are no fans. We've we've heard about the hardships
that Major League Baseball owners feel that they are going
to be dealing with without any fans. This has also
been done in a time where in the previous off
seasons we have seen it take forever for guys like
Bryce Harper and Manny Machado to get a deal. It
took forever for j D. Martinez to get a deal

(03:20):
from the Boston Red Sox. And even with that deal
and maybe some others, those teams may be regretting the
deals that they already gave a short time ago when
we thought maybe Major League Baseball owners were colluding to
have lower salaries. And on top of that, even though
the salaries were and I'm using air quotes lower, maybe
some of the teams weren't happy with their with the

(03:41):
buck that they were spending. The point being I thought
that we were in a Major League Baseball market where
it was just extreme buyer beware when it came to
giving guys contracts. I was shocked to see the amount
of money that the Dodgers are willing to give Mookie Betts,
which would be the second most in total value in BaseT. Well,
and it goes to not just in baseball, but let's

(04:04):
not forget that the Dodgers basically uh pulled themselves out
of the Bryce Harper running. As John Ramo's reference to
me off the top. When I walked in the studio,
we were talking a little bit about it, uh, and
you know, there was talk of do they do the
short deal three four five year deal for way more money,
but they didn't want to commit for this long of
a time frame. Obviously. Manny Machado played a half a

(04:27):
season with the Dodgers and they were happy to let
him go even within division to the Padres. And so
I think it's a it's an interesting development, not only
from the larger baseball perspective of I thought we were
tempering these contracts because of this economic recession, because a
lot of these teams frankly have not gotten the return
on the investment that they had hoped. But then also

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even just from the Dodgers perspective of yes, they have
not been frugal handing out big contracts over these past
couple of years, certainly since the Magic Johnson ownership group
took over. But at the same time, it is still
surprising the timing of it, the circumstance, and even the
fact that it is the Los Angeles Dodgers. And I
will say this, and I don't mean to sit on
the fencier talk out of both sides of my mouth,

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but when Andrew Friedman came over from the race to
take over the Dodgers front office, we saw what he
did in Tampa without having any uh pocket book really
to work with. And now you come to the Dodgers,
and you come with the the Google hung group, and
you've got uh, You've got a wealth of riches literally

(05:31):
to deal with, and the Dodger fans and no haven't
necessarily been been happy. But when you look with the
with the ultimate results, I don't know how you can
be disappointed. With back to back World Series appearances, UH
constant UH Division championships, what is it seven in a
row for the Dodgers that they have won, won the

(05:52):
NL West. I don't know how you can be disappointed
in that. But I will say this, there is a
point with the Dodgers, and I do think that there
are few sure their future. Their past looks bright, the
present looks bright, their future looks bright. But there's a
point erin where you don't want to be the Atlanta Braves,
where you don't want to just cash in and be
the team that makes the playoffs every year and then

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people are just waiting for you to fail somehow, in
some way in a postseason. And to the Braves credit,
the Dodgers aren't even at that level yet because at
least the Braves won one World Series. So when you're
the Dodgers and you're trying to do your thing, you
have to be aggressive because you're gonna fall into that
category and you have to continually take their shots. I

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think the other reason another reason they gave Mookie Bets.
All this money was because they actually traded for him. Like,
you can't do a deal and give up a prospect
like you did with Alex Verdugo and then get absolutely
nothing in return. So what behooved them to end up
being like, all right, we've got to get something. We've
got to get something done with Mookie Bets. They've got
the money, they've got the ability to pay him, they've

(06:57):
got a young core. There is going to be a transition,
and but you have to make sure that you if
you're going to trade a player, you've got to get
something in return. I also think that the Angels play
a role in this. And I'm not sure what you
think about this, but with Mike Trout being the highest
paid player in baseball, we can all agree that Mike
Trout probably should be. But this is also a team

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that we know that gave, you know, money to Albert
Pools in the past and now signed Anthony Rendon in
this offseason. And when you look at what the Angels
are doing, I don't think that the Dodgers could sit
there and take a back seat to the team that
I think they feel place second fiddle in the Southern
California market to them the Angels. So I almost think
it's even a response to what the Angels did this

(07:38):
offseason and signing Rendon and having tropped into that contract
to be like, all right, well answer that, Mookie Batts.
You get thirteen years, three d eighty million dollars, Well
can you can't you extrapolate that last point out even
further that they're not just competing with the Angels, but
in a weird way, they're competing with the Lakers, the Clippers,
just in terms of relevance, in terms of what we
talk about in terms of the dollar be being spent,

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and we know there's going to be less discretionary income
here for most folks across this country over these next
couple of years. And I think to the point that
you brought up, if you bring him in for a
sixty game season, and thankfully we will see him in
a Dodgers uniform, even if it was just for sixty games,
we would see him. But if if you bring him
in for a sixty game season and then you let
him walk, and then again this is after you let

(08:23):
Manny Machado walk a year ago, I think it does
send the wrong message to the fans I don't think
any Dodgers fan doesn't think the organization is trying to
put the team in the best position to win. But
you let two pretty high profile free agents go. Uh.
And I know Manny Machado has his issues with you know,
attitude and work ethic and all that stuff, but he's
a very productive player on the field. You let those

(08:44):
guys go. I do think it sends the wrong message
to the fans. And again, in this post pandemic world
where you're in a city competing with the Dodgers, with
the Angels, but also the Lakers and the Clippers, I
think you have to be all in and it something
that we've seen across the landscape in Los Angeles is,
by the way, a big reason why people were saying

(09:05):
you gotta get rid of Clay hell In at USC
because you have to show the fans you're committed to winning.
I think the Dodgers felt a little bit of that
with Mookie Betts as well. You know, I think you
and I have unique perspectives, um uh, not unlike a
lot of people who currently live in Los Angeles. But
weren't that uh, you know originally from l a uh.
John Ramos are technical producer. Uh born and bred from

(09:27):
Southern California. Ryan Music, the executive producer, Southern California native.
Steve de Seger Southern California native. You and I came
to l a. Uh. You came from the East Coast.
I came from the Midwest. And when I came here
fifteen years ago to southern California, it was surprising to
me because where I was from, it wasn't a baseball

(09:50):
basketball sort of thing. It's football all the time. I
was surprised at how much the Lakers and how much
the Dodgers had real estate out here, like it was
foreign to me. And then like they were the they
were the top level. But you're right with the you know,
with the Clippers trying to make their push, whether it
be trying to trying to squeeze the Lakers, are trying

(10:10):
to squeeze more room out of what the Lakers already occupy.
You're right, it becomes a bigger, bigger picture in the
city of Los Angeles to really hold your ground and
and and keep your mark. And I think you're right
about that about keeping up with these other things. I
don't think that the Clippers are challenging the Dodgers. The
point is is that you they're just they're all fighting

(10:30):
for for real estate in a city that honestly was
dominated in professional sports by the Lakers and Dodgers franchise
for so long. A bit of a different story, I
think nowadays. I didn't even reference the fact that we
now have two NFL teams in this city. Uh. And
this was, by the way, a lot of what the
Rams were doing when they signed Todd Gurley to that
long term extension that clearly didn't work out. Obviously, this

(10:51):
is apples and oranges, but they bring it in. Dominicans
suffer here. I mean, they thought they had this window
to build up this fan base, to get people excited
about Rams football. Not comparing the Dodgers in that sense,
the Dodgers are always gonna have a huge spot in
this landscape. But you did reference the Clippers, and and
are the Clippers a direct competitor of the Dodgers. No,

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But if over the next four or five years they're
playing into June every single year, that's three months of
the baseball season that we're we're focused on. Frankly, either
the Lakers or the Clippers, both of them are probably
gonna be playing into late May, one of them into
early June. And so again, is it is it a
total apples to apples deal? No, But I also think

(11:33):
that there's gonna be nights in this city in Los
Angeles where Lakers have Game one of the Finals and
the Dodgers are trying to figure out a way to
get fifty people to Dodger Stadium. Uh. The Clippers the
same deal. And so I think the fact that the
Dodgers can fiscally take on this contract, I think it
was a smart move. I think it was the right move.

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And I'll tell you this. You look at that young
core with Walker Bueller, uh, Cody Bellinger. They're gonna be
really fun to watch over of this next four or five,
six seven year window. Yeah, those guys are gonna have
to be paid in sometime in the near future too.
And and and with all of that, I guess maybe
my follow reason why you know why I think they
paid him goes along to what you're saying. Let's be honest,
they're they're the West Coast Yankees. They may they may

(12:14):
produce more local talent, and usually around the trade deadline,
an annual tradition are the Dodger fans griping that they
didn't give up prospects for somebody to help them down
the stretch run. However, in March and April, you're always saying, wow,
look at the look at the depth that we have,
look at the young talent that we have. We can
option Gavin Lux and not miss a beat where other

(12:36):
teams may be trying to to rush guys or and
maybe it's a service time thing, but the point being
is you complain about one thing, but really, in the end,
this is the reason why the Dodgers are going to
compete for the next seven to ten years. And when
you are the West Coast Yankees, that means you can
pay Cody Bellinger when his contract comes up in a
couple of years, you can pay Walker Bueller and also

(12:57):
have the contract of Mookie Bets on your books. He's
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(13:19):
at Aaron Torres is a guy in Tennessee, right, we
it seemed to always have this argument. He's actually at
Aaron Torres underscore. Oh yeah, yeah, the poor kid, I
feel But and he's a sportswriter too. He's like a
high school sportswriter right out of college. And whenever I
say something on radio that upsets people, this poor kid,

(13:39):
how dare you saying that about Mookie Bets And he's like,
I don't even know who Mookie Bets is. So feel
bad for the kid. But hey, that's the you know,
that's the hazard. You know, that's that's the that's the territory.
It's like, we're at Dan Buyer. Would always get tweets
on my stupid takes, like why are you tweeting me?
I didn't do anything with who was the guy? I
know we gotta get to break, But wasn't there like
a UFC guys, something happened. I'll look it up during

(14:01):
the break where he I can't remember there was something
with the UFC and the wrong guy was getting all
these tweets and I can't remember. Yeah, it's at j S.
Ramos zero six. Okay, okay, that was the that was
the the Twitter address that you that we got so much,
so much flak. No, that's John Ramos is our technical producer.

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Coming up next, we'll talk to an insider who will
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(14:44):
and the I Heart Radio app. He's eron Torres. I'm
Dan Buyer, sitting in for Doug today here on the
Doug Gottleib Show. John Ramos is our technical producer, Aaron.
He and I were talking prior to the show. We
both have a great love for this song west End Girls.
But John told me was that he didn't realize for
a while that he was saying East End boys in

(15:07):
the song. Yeah. I didn't didn't wasn't sure what that
line was, which reminds me of a segment that I've
always wanted to do on sports talk radio. But It's
a music segment of like figuring out lines of songs
that you just had no idea and so maybe at
some point when we get together we can we can
throw that out there, because there are a bunch of

(15:28):
lines and songs that I know people have been singing
wrong for years and years and years, and uh, John
was singing out West End Girls wrong for a little while.
But he's on the right track there. There's a line
in one of the Taylor Swift songs something about it
sounds like Starbucks. I got my Starbucks lovers, uh and
nobody like Taylor Swift tried to explain it one time,

(15:48):
and even when she explained it, it didn't make sense.
We're like, no, that's not what it sounds like at all.
By the bye, I was gonna say I Uh, I
did some real deep dive investigate have worked during the break,
and I figured out who was the wrong tweet. It
was a really kind of funny story. But John Jones,
the UFC fighter, I think it was in one of

(16:10):
his uh you know, he made some declaration wants to
fight Daniel Cormier or something. He did something. But there
is an at John Jones. He's at Johnny Bones, and
so whenever he said what he said, poor at John Jones,
who's like a you know, a mechanical engineer from Buffalo
or something, just got all of John Jones the UFC

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fighters tweets. So well, if I'm Mookie Bets, I'm changing
my Twitter handle to like twelve dollar signs, because that's
that's what he's got right now to talk about that
siding and so much more as baseball is on the horizon.
Covering baseball for the l A Times, Bill Shaking joins
us here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, Bill, how's your
Wednesday going a little busy? But all right? Now? Are you? Yeah? Good?
Were you caught off guard on this? Were their rumblings

(16:55):
that a deal could be happening. How did this Mookie
Betts contract extension with the Dodgers end up playing out
over these last couple of days. Well, when the Dodgers
acquired Bets in February, he only had this one year
left on his contract, and the Dodgers gave up what
they considered some of their best prospects and took on

(17:18):
a lot of money in the David Price contract. And
he thought, well, that's that's quite a lot just for
one year of Mookie Betts, But the Dodgers had made
clear that they weren't regarding this as a one year deal,
that they wanted to keep him. And of course, you know,
they've had four months now not to play, and obviously
I've used some of that time to get a deal

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done with bets Bill. Outside of the obvious that he's really, really,
really talented Mookie Bets, what was the number one reason
they felt like they needed to secure this guy long term?
Is it to keep a young core with Cody Bellinger
Walker Bueller together? Is it because they know the competitive
Los Angeles landscape? What is the number one res and

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in your opinion, outside of this guy is really good
that they wanted him as part of their organization for
the next thirteen years. Well, when you look at what
Andrew Friedman has done since he took over the Dodgers
baseball operations department in two thousand fourteen, it's two things.
One is won the National League West every year and

(18:20):
put two teams into the World Series, and two has
never committed a hundred million dollars to a single player. Now,
the Dodgers would probably tell you that those two things
are connected. That they don't want to wait their payroll
too heavily toward one person or two guys, and if
those players get older injured, well that might ruin the

(18:41):
rest of the team. But what they've quietly done along
the way is to invest in their farm system to
develop young players and also to clear up some of
the payroll long term issues that they inherited when Freedman
came over in two thousand fourteen. So some of the
large contracts and that Camp contract, the Adrian Gonzalez contract,

(19:03):
the Carl Crawford contract came along with the Adrian Gonzalez contract,
those are all done now, so they do have some flexibility,
and they're looking at a future where you know, Clayton
Kershaw and Justin Turner and Kenley Jansen aren't going to
be the focus players anymore and probably won't be here
all that much longer. But as you mentioned, they can

(19:24):
transition now to a future of Mookie Betts and Cody
Bellinger and Walker Bueller. And by the way, along the transition,
they've still never failed to win the division in any
given years, So that's that's a tough trick. Yeah, it's amazing, Bill,
Bill shaking of the l a times joining us. He's
Aeron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer sitting in for Doug and

(19:44):
Aaron and I were just talking this off the top.
We're also based in southern California, so in Los Angeles,
so so so we hear the talk lay around Dodger
fans all the time, and and there always seems to
be like an annual tradition between what would have been
now in July the the first with Dodger fans clamoring
for the Dodgers to make deadline deals and bring in guys,

(20:07):
and then when they don't do it, August first is
what are we doing? But but there only seems to
be like that three weeks that we see that the
Dodger fans lament the front office not doing those deadline deals.
Is it because the farm system is just so darn good?
Or or why is maybe Andrew Friedman um taken this

(20:27):
path which obviously works as opposed to maybe being a
short term sort of deal. Do you know what I'm saying?
I just always feel like we're at the trade downline.
The Dodgers don't make a move, and Dodger fans complain
for three weeks, But the other maybe forty nine weeks
out of the year. They're happy with their with their
farm system. Does he look at the the Dodgers organization
different as as other teams? Maybe should be my question. Oh,

(20:51):
I don't know that. I'd say they haven't made a
move at the trade deadline. They did bring in Manny
Machado a couple of years ago at the deadline, and
you Darvish the year before. But the general premise is
right that the fans understandably want the Dodgers to win
the World Series. You know, people in l A are
tired of watching black and white grain and Kirk Gibson videos.
It would be nice to win a World Series, you know,

(21:13):
in this millennium. But the Dodgers have said part of
their consistency and part of their success is trying to
win the division every year and not going all in
for anyone particular years so that you don't give up
your very best prospects. And the Dodgers have never under Friedman,
and also as far as the bets trade still have

(21:33):
never given up their very best prospects. Um that that's
when they talk about we can build a sustainable winner.
This is what they meant, and they believed that really,
if you can get into the playoffs, as Billy Bean
famously said, it's a crap sheet. And the idea that
a player like Bets would make you that much better
just for a crapshoot has not been something the Dodgers

(21:55):
have been interested in. But as we said over the
last winter, they said, you know what, let's go out
and get Mookie beats. It does give us a chance
to go all in, but we also have enough payroll
maneuverability that we can sign them long term, and we're
gonna make every effort to do that. And look, you know,
revenues are going to go down in baseball, no doubt
because of the pandemic. But the Dodgers have an eight

(22:18):
billion dollar local television contracts, So nobody really wants to
hear the Dodgers talk about financial flexibility. They want to
see the Dodgers put the money down, and today they
have and bill. That led into actually my last question,
which was very simply, is this a good sign for
baseball that a contract of this value is being handed
out or is it strictly a Dodgers, as you said,

(22:40):
have such a massive local TV deal, local media rights
deal that they are in a stratosphere, unlike most teams.
I think at this point, I'd say it's specific to
the Dodgers. We'll find out over the next couple of years.
Um we know revenues are going to go down. For example,
when you start watching games this week, you're gonna see

(23:01):
ads and places you've never seen them before. Tarps on
the outfield, ads, stencil behind the pictures mound, and things
like that. Because teams are not necessarily trying to make money,
they're just trying to prevent themselves from losing money from
all the exposure that all those sponsors would have gotten
that they played a hundred sixty two games, So they're
trying to make good on at least some of that exposure.

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They're gonna lose money. Media revenue, we don't know where
that's gonna go. Because everybody's cutting the cord in the
pandemic has only accelerated that. You know, a lot of
people who don't watch sports, they don't need cable and satellite,
and the cable deals that have been signed over the
last ten to twenty years all depend on everybody subscribing
to cable and satellite. Because everybody pays for them, whether

(23:44):
you watch the Dodgers or the Cubs or the Braves
or whatever the team might be. So that's going to
go away. But for the Dodgers, they're signed through. That's
not a problem for them. And then in terms of attendance,
we don't know how many fans are going to be
allowed into games next and even if a lot of
fans are allowed, how many fans are gonna feel comfortable.
We don't know is there going to be a vaccine

(24:06):
for the virus or a treatment. But let's say it's
fifty of capacity, and it's going to be different from
place to place, But the Dodgers happened at the largest
stadium in the major leagues, So fifty percent of capacity
for them is going to give them more money than
fifty of anybody else's capacity. He's Bill Shaking covering Major

(24:26):
League Baseball for the l A Times. Baseball getting underway
tomorrow with those Dodgers taking on the San Francisco Giants
and one of the two opening day games. You could say, Bill,
we appreciate the time, and the next time we talk
to you will actually be able to talk about what's
happening on the field. It'll be amazing. All right, take care.
Thanks Bill the La Times. You can find him on

(24:47):
Twitter at Bill Shaking. He's Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer.
Get Aaron on Twitter at Aaron Underscore Torres, and Aaron
Torres put up a picture of the first scrimmage that
we have gotten that is being broadcast live on TV
right now between the Magic and Clippers in the Orlando bubble.
I want to dive into what we're seeing here, Aaron,

(25:09):
and we're gonna talk to NBA, but this is an
amazing look that we have gotten our first glimpse at
the NBA bubble. We dive into that. Be sure to
catch the live edition of the Doug gott Leap Show
week days at three p m. Easter noon Pacific. This
is the Doug Gotlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
He's Erin Torres. I'm Dan Buyer. So we're watching the

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Magic and Clippers, and I know that through radio you're
unable to see it. So that's what we will provide
for you if you're on social media and you can't
see the game that is happening right now. Aaron took
a screen grab of the screen. But when you see
the the enormous video boards. Aaron maybe one of the
things that that stands out the most. However, when you

(25:52):
look closely, like the there's plexiglass around the scores table,
which is something that I, you know, is wasn't necessarily
thought that I would expect it, just thought we would
see a bunch of people with masks on. They're wearing
masks as well. What is stood out to you as
you see this NBA bubble being uncovered in Orlando. Yeah,

(26:13):
I'm trying to piece together. It feels weird, but it
doesn't feel weird like it's it's you know, it's high
level basketball. And the way the TV for people who
can't see it, the way the TV is set up
is that there's only a couple rows off the court
that are filled with players, assistant coaches, whatever. So it

(26:33):
just looks like a really small arena, almost like one
of those college arenas, you know, where you have like
the small lower deck that then is Yeah, So so
I don't know that I feel like it's that weird.
When it's Game two of the NBA Finals and we
got Janice Lebron, I mean, we'll probably be so used
to it at that point, but this just feels like
a normal exhibition game to me. But like I just

(26:54):
said a minute ago, when the games start to count,
that's probably when it will feel like, oh, this is
definitely a different Yeah. The design that you mentioned, it's
kind of like Oregon's Old Court or Indiana has. Where
you've got it's almost like bleachers that are pulled out
and then you have the seating above that. That's what
it appears. The benches that you talk about, and the

(27:15):
reason why it looks like this is because the benches
for the teams are three rows deep. Usually you have
the long front row and then a couple of assistants
crammed behind the original bench, but here you have three
rows of that and those chairs are all spaced out,
so that is unique. I'm also looking at this and

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you seem to have a bigger distance from the playing
court to the beach, and without the the ability to
have photographers, no one's along the baseline there there there
there are fans that are sitting there, obviously, but there's
also no full dogs there. So you've got all this room.
It's it is. It is very unique to see how

(27:57):
this is going to play out. I think we all
had our own idea is on how the NBA bubble
would look. But just even the spacing of the court,
by the way that James Nasmith thinks this court is boring.
You've got Black Lives Matter at the top of the
NBA logo. Otherwise it's just thin black boundary lines and
three point lines. That's it. There's no color in it whatsoever.

(28:18):
So there's just it is a different, different field. But
I'll just go back to the main part. The plexiglass
scores table makes it look like an enormous penalty box.
And I get it. I get it. It's you know,
it's safety and and I'm all for it. But it's
just a different, different look that the NBA is providing us.
This is like one of those uh not a magic guy,
but the thing where hey, here are these two pictures.

(28:40):
Name the eleven things that are different between the two.
Because I hadn't noticed. I mean, you know, I'm just
kind of you know, I have it on in studio,
and obviously the Black Lives Matter, which is right at
center court stands out and the benches stand out. But
I hadn't really put two and two together about the
lack of photographers under the basket. It's for obvious safety reasons.
I have no issue with its same with the distance

(29:02):
between the playing court and the bench, that's definitely different.
But yeah, now that I'm actually really looking at it,
it definitely does have a different field. But at the
end of the day, whatever we had to do to
get basketball on the court, I'm in favor of. If
this is news all of us, and I'm trying to picture, like,
how would a Game seven of the NBA Finals or
a Game six look at would it? Would it take,

(29:22):
you know, undertake a different different look this. By the way,
it's technically a Clippers home game, and the Clippers logo
is placed on all of the video screens around the court,
so that is something else that you could see that
that that we will see. But it's our first real
look at the NBA bubble, and uh, it is a

(29:43):
unique look. You can you even see the sponsorships for
the Clippers sponsors on the electronic banners that go around,
because there's even like a almost like you know, a
hockey board in front of part of the NBA bench.
Just just completely unique. I know, we hadn't planned to
talk about it, but now that we're actually seeing what
it looks like to me is just it's it's really

(30:04):
really unique, and I encourage anybody to try to take
a look at Go to Aaron's Twitter page and you
can see a picture of it. Yeah, and it's been
a fun, I guess exercise in uh, just all this
stuff with baseball coming back in the last week, and
Arnie and I were actually on air on Saturday, I,
you know, for people who don't know who I am,
I normally do the Saturday night late night show with

(30:24):
Arnie Spanier and we were on that first day with baseball,
which was Clint Frasier wearing a mask and hitting home
runs and all that stuff. And I actually think, to me,
just and I only have a couple of minutes of
frame of reference, I think baseball feels weirder, uh than
the basketball does. The basketball it just looks like an
empty gym. But the uniforms are the same, the guys

(30:45):
look the same, all that stuff baseball between the players,
some of them wearing masks, and then of course the
empty stadium where you had a foul ball and there's
literally nobody within uhi feet of it. I think, to me,
the baseball looks weirder but it's just crazy getting all
these different in sports with all their new looks in
the next in the last couple of weeks. Yeah, the
foul balls are the the the crazy thing. Even home

(31:06):
runs into empty bleachers is unique. Usually the only time
you would see that is maybe in construction. Now Joe
Kim Noah takes a basketball and throws it into the stands.
Maybe then we'll get a look at what else the
bubble looks like. But this is basically all that that
we're going to get. It's gonna be like a pickup game.
If he throws it, he's got to go get it
because there's nobody to throw it back. So very very true.

(31:26):
He's eron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Doug
Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. By the way,
we've been getting tweets, uh nothing about our sports take,
but about but about wrong song lyrics that people have heard.
So maybe we'll bring those those out of here. I
also took a shot at cole Slaw and Sandwiches like
they do in Pittsburgh. Um, you can see that at
Dan Buyer on Fox. Get Aaron on Twitter at Aaron

(31:49):
Underscore Torres coming up next, We've got some big news
to talk about in the National Football League, as the
league will then require fans to wear face coverings at
games when fans are permitted. When and if fans are permitted?
Is that real news are fake news? We'll tell you
next year on Fox. Fox Sports Radio has the best
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(32:11):
shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the
I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live.
He's Ara Torres on Dan Buyers sitting in for Doug
Gottlieb here on Fox Sports Radio. So glad to have
you with us on a Monday where we now not
only have one, we have got two NBA scrimmages going on.

(32:33):
Nuggets and Wizards are underway, as are the Magic and
Clippers that got things going. Aaron. I wasn't sure if
the League Pass NBA League Pass was going to have games,
but apparently so, so I'm going to try to. I
thought about maybe calling the the satellite provider and being like,
you know, this NBA season cut me short, give me
a deal on this League Pass. Unfortunately, doesn't think. It

(32:56):
doesn't seem that I'm going to have any sort of
arguments since they are apparently going to air the scrimmages
on NBA League Pass, so there's, uh, it's one strike
for me. Today. I thought maybe i'd get an eight
buck discount. I'm not having a full NBA season. You know.
It's like when your buddy always tells, you know, just
call up the cable company, tell me you're gonna switch.

(33:17):
They'll give you. That's what I thought, like I could
do and just be like, hey, yeah, lead pass um, Yeah,
not a full season, I want my discount. Unfortunately, I
don't think that's gonna work. I've tried like seven variations
of that since the pandemic started and got shut down
on every single one. Really, Like I have a gym
at my uh my apartment complex in a pool, and

(33:38):
you know, like day three, I pulled the just send
an email like a very like straightforward like, so, I
assume we're getting a discount because we can't use the
gym or the pool, right, And they're like, no, absolutely not.
Article seven, Chapter two of your of your lease says
that we absolutely do not have to pay you back anything.
And I was like, okay, well that's garbage. Yeah, that's

(33:58):
uh well, sorry to hear that, I think that you
should get a discount. I'll put, I'll send, I'll sell
forward their emails to you. You can, I'll be happy
to respond. By the way, I am trying to get
this Wizard's Nuggets game on the the the old TV
and it is an up in game pass. So maybe
I've maybe I've got something, maybe I've got an argument.
I'll figure that out. Instead, let's just play a game.

(34:23):
This is Game Time Side on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Now,
I think I know the answer, Steve de Sagan, So
what game we are playing? I think too. I think
it was accidentally pushed a little bit earlier as we
are coming back. But I guess I have to throw
it to the board up anyway, since this is always overproduced, John,

(34:44):
what game are we playing today? Real news? Fake news?
I had no idea. By the way, Aaron, that did
sound like the resort fees at Lost Fan. Whether you
actually use the pool or not? Talk about your scams?
Uh now gets eighteen to seventeen late first quarter, by
the way, updating until you get your stream and Lou

(35:05):
Williams and the Clippers eleven points off the bench, they
can't be stopped. They've taken the lead on the Orlando
Magic forty nine late first half. And keep in mind
for the exhibition openers it's ten minute quarters instead of
twelve there at the NBA bubble. Well, let's get to
item number one, shall we? By the way, this news
item while we're talking about non game things, it just

(35:26):
was too big to pass up that. You know, there's
congressional testimony again going on about name image and like
usper that's going on right now, George, yeah, uh. Dave
Matter of College reporter does point out that n c
A President Mark Emmert has today been testifying remotely about
this name image and likeness legislation while sitting in front

(35:47):
of a photo of West Virginia basketball players who were
not paid for that photo of their liners. Thank you
and good nights. Okay. Item number one, this is gonna
be real news or news, you tell me which it is.
The Blue Jays are still without a home stadium for
after the Pennsylvania Department of Health denied their request to
use p n C Park. Alright, aeron, you want to

(36:10):
take this stab at that one. I'm gonna fake newsrepect.
Really it is real. They've just announced to add travelers
to this region for any reason risks residents, visitors, and
members of both teams, to which Bill Shakin said, couldn't
that be the reason for any state that has a

(36:31):
major league? So the Blue Jays are still looking or
maybe they'll just play sixty road games at this point.
Who knows the That's a tweet that I retweeted about
the shutdown, and I said, the Pennsylvania Health Department won't
allow the Blue Jays come to town, but for years
they've allowed cole slaw and sandwiches. I'm sorry, awful, I

(36:53):
can't stand. What are they thinking? Oh my goodness items
to The NFL officially announced today that all fans league
wide will be required to wear face coverings at games
where they are permitted to attend. In the first place,
is that that they will be required will be required.
That is real new Steve, and they're spectacular. It is

(37:13):
just in the last couple of hours the pr man
for the NFL did confirm it face coverings required for
NFL fans at stadiums if your stadium does, and I
know that because Deb Carson, who was at the Fox
Sports radio news desk prior to you, had that news
and uh yeah, so I uh we were on top
of it here a Fox Sports and Janice confirmed to

(37:34):
reporters he was unable to play basketball or even have
access to a hoop the entire time the league was
shut down until he arrived in Orlando. Is at real
news or fake news? Aaron? Uh? Fake for me? That
was shot fake news? You are fake news? Oh? In fact,
he admitted in Orlando he did indeed have access to
a gym. For some reason. The m v P of

(37:55):
the league is needing a leg up on the competition.
It's mental mental warfare from Janice, this is game time.
On The Dug Gottlieb Show, Chaz tweets in he thought
a C d C was singing dirty deeds in the
thunder Chief Yes for wrong lyrics. He's erin Torres. I'm

(38:19):
dan buyer. Our long term contracts really worth it? Major
League Baseball. We discussed next here on The Doug Gotlib
Show and Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch the
live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three
p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart Radio app. So glad to have you
with us on this Wednesday, in about twenty minutes or so,

(38:42):
we'll be talking with NFL network analysts and radio color
analyst for the Los Angeles Chargers. Former NFL scout Daniel
Jeremiah joins us here on Fox Sports Radio Plus. We'll
put Aaron Torres to the test. Coming up at the
bottom of the hour, Era I do want to I
do want to also add for a song lyric that

(39:03):
we've had people starting to tweet us. This was all
because John Ramos didn't know that in the song west
End Girls by the Pet Shop Boys that they were
saying east End Boys, So four M four pe tweets in.
I always thought Janet Jackson was saying what have you
done for me? Nadine? Is what have you done for me?

(39:24):
Which is interesting because that's the actual title of the song.
You would see that on the the inserts. Let's see,
what's what's the next song? What have you done for me? Lately?
Know that where is where? What have you done for me? Nadine?
Where is that? I mean, it is well known Janet

(39:45):
Jackson's rival with Nadine. I mean, that's really one of
the great rivalries that we have. Here's Yeah, you're totally right. Like,
here's the thing, like like Janet Jackson did so much
for Nadine right like and and Nadine has doesn't absolutely thing, nothing, zero,
not a Oh man, Uh dirty deeds in the thunder Chief.

(40:12):
Oh man, I just want wrong song lyrics for the
rest of this show. Uh you could tweet Aaron at
Aaron underscore Torres. I'm at Dan Buyer on Fox. I
will since I'm broadcasting from my home, I will have
to ask my wife during a commercial break if I

(40:33):
can reveal her misheard lyric because it's it's something to
wait for. It's one of my favorites, and I know
that John Ramos will like it as well. But that
will come up later on in the show, just because honestly, guys,
I need permission. That's just, you know, I just want
to make sure. I just I just want to make

(40:54):
sure that that that she's okay with it. Dodger fans,
I'm sure are okay with Mookie Bets getting a contract
extension from the team, thirteen year extension, three hundred and
eighty million dollars on that deal. W E E I
in Boston the first on it, and know ESPN had
a Ken Rosenthal as well, but Mookie Bets getting that

(41:17):
long term deal for the amount of money in that
contract Aaron's second most in baseball history, behind Mike Trout's
four hundred and twenty six point five million dollar deal.
But this puts Mookie Betts, according to my account, in
the Dodgers uniform or at least under contract with this
deal through the twenty thirty two season. A long, long

(41:40):
deal for the twenty seven year old Mookie Bets, you know,
feels like a long time from now, long long time.
I'll also say two thousand eight, Uh doesn't feel that
long ago. And uh, here we are in so it's
the same amount of time frame. But yeah, it's it's
surreal and it's something that listen, I think as we
get more data, uh on these crazy long term deals

(42:03):
and are they actually it's great to sign a star player,
right it It wins the headlines. It drive season ticket
sales or regular season ticket sales or game day walk
up sales for a little while. But if you look
at now this era where guys are signing for thirty
thirty five plus million dollars a year, it hasn't translated

(42:25):
success and it's not you know, anything that hasn't been
discussed before. But Bryce Harper leaves the Nationals. They're better
without them. U Manny Machado goes to the Padres. They
finished in last place last season. Mike Trout has not
yet won a playoff game, which is kind of the
craziest stat in sports that nobody talks about. But the
fact remains, these guys are great individual talents. But does

(42:47):
it help an organization long term? The jury is still
out on that. You know, when you look at at
these deals and and at the at the beginning of
the month of July, you see this a lot on
Twitter of people talking about it's by b Bonilla Day
the Mets, Oh Bobby Bonilla, you know, a million dollars
and and and from the stuff that I've read was that,

(43:08):
you know what, like like that probably wasn't the greatest
deal for Bobby Bonilla because if you would have gotten
this money up front, he could have invested it and
it would have been more than what he ended up
agreeing to with with the New York Mets. But when
you see these huge, huge deals, uh, Aaron, these monstrous
deals in Major League Baseball, I don't even think I

(43:32):
Garret Cole maybe a different scenario when he gets his
his deal from the Yankees. But you know, the Machado,
the Bryce Harper deal, to me, are so much more
about making a name for your franchise, keeping that in
your franchise, because I just don't think that there's a
way that one player is going to win you a

(43:54):
World Series. Now, if you get to the World Series,
maybe Madison bum Gardner comes out of the you know,
the old pen and pitches five innings in Game seven
and as five appearances in that World Series and you
end up winning it. But honestly, it's so difficult for
one player. So when I look at like like this
Mookie Bets deal with the Dodgers or any of the
other long term deals, I'm not even sure if it's

(44:16):
about winning than it is to to making a statement,
keeping your pieces or putting some pieces in place to
try to build a winner, because there's no way that
one person can be the end all be all in
Major League Baseball. And unfortunately that's the price of doing
business when you have these players, and and and and

(44:37):
and that that nature of doing business was something that
the thing the owners tried to change over the last
couple of years, but now with the Dodgers resetting the market,
I think it's going to I think other teams are
probably mad that the Dodgers have given Mookie Betts this
amount of money in this sort of time. But it's
one of those deals. Again. It may not put the
Dodgers over the top and make them the World Series

(44:59):
champions for this year or the next year, but it
positions them. They're allowed to do it, so they're going
to do it. So I don't think it's necessarily bad
because teams aren't. I don't think you can weigh it
on did you pay this guy? Did you win a
World Series? You do? Do not win a World Series.
It's the cost of doing business. Yeah, And I think
it is a little different for the Dodgers than say
the Phillies or the Padres certainly in that you know,

(45:22):
when you when the Padres signed a Manny Machado to
a new deal for whatever it was, around thirty million
dollars a year or whatever, you question how many more
pieces can they put around him? Um, And I understand
that we're not Baseball isn't the small market big market
it was fifteen twenty years ago. Everybody has money from
local TV deals. Everyone has money from the national TV

(45:43):
deals and all that. But I do think it is
a little bit different for the Dodgers because, as we
reference an hour one, Walker Bueller's coming up on a
big contract here soon, assuming he stays on his trajectory
and stays healthy. Cody Bellinger is certainly going to get
a big contract, And so the difference with the Dodgers
is that I don't think it hamstrings them from doing
other things and putting other elite pieces around him, almost

(46:05):
like with the Yankees when they traded for Gene Carlos Stanton.
When they traded for Gene Carlo Stanton, it doesn't mean
that they can't go get a Garrett Cole. Yeah, that
they can't pay Aaron Judge when he's do his big
contract extensions. So it is a little bit different for
the Dodgers than say a lot of these other teams.
But it is fascinating and I'll and I'll tell you this.

(46:27):
I mean, the window though, is wide open, and while
the data says it doesn't usually work out well for
the team, I do think the Dodgers just because of
the market, because of the attendance. In a normal circumstance,
I think it's a little bit different than those other deals.
It reminds me in a way of college football and
college basketball. There's there's no shalary cap in Major League baseball.

(46:50):
So you know in college football, Alabama, l s U, Clemson,
Ohio State, those teams are going to be there, those
teams are going to get players. When you look around
the rest of Major League Baseball, you know that there
are teams that aren't going to pay money. That was
maybe the most surprising thing about the Padres was that
you're like, oh, wow, the Padres are getting in and

(47:11):
they're gonna spend some cash. But we know that that
there are certain teams in Major League Baseball that aren't.
Just the Chicago White Sox aren't gonna be in the
top three in salary in Major League Baseball. Not gonna happen.
The Milwaukee Brewers aren't going to, the Detroit Tigers aren't
going to. So each of these teams have a different

(47:32):
way to try to, you know, figure out how they
are going to win ball games, just like you would
in college football. You know, you take trying to think of,
you know of of an example of of a smaller school,
maybe maybe just taking you know, a Princeton College shoots
team from back in the day. You know, like this

(47:52):
is the way that they're going to end up playing basketball.
They're gonna slow you down, they're gonna they're they're gonna
back door to death. And when you face a George
Town team at that time and maybe not relevant now,
but you have an opportunity to to compete with them.
But those of the the worlds that you have to
work within, and I think that's what you get with
Major League baseball. I'll give you an example from a

(48:13):
few years ago. But when Chip Kelly got to Oregon, right, like,
Chip Kelly is not going to be able to recruit
the same caliber of offensive lineman defensive linemen as USC,
let Alone, Um, Alabama, Clemson, whoever was good at that time,
Auburn who they played for a championship, and so he
had to figure out a different way to do it.
And the great thing about baseball is we kind of

(48:35):
have uh data points that show there are more than
one way to do it. And in the mid nineties, yeah,
it was really tough to compete with the Yankees in
that payroll. But in the last couple of years, I
mean we referenced Andrew Friedman coming from Tampa Bay. Tampa
Bay made a World Series. They were always competitive with
one of the smallest payrolls in baseball. Um, you know
the Washington Nationals last year. Uh, they were able to

(48:59):
move on with a younger, more dynamic team. Obviously, Steven
Strousberg is getting paid, so it's not as though their
small market or nobody's getting money. But they were able
to do it without the traditional kind of structure that
other teams have had. So that's kind of the one
thing that I do really like about baseball, about the
major league level, is that you don't have to have

(49:19):
one of the highest payrolls. You don't have to have, uh,
those four five marketable guys Manny Machadow, Bryce Harper, Mike
Trout whatever. In some cases it's actually to your detriment,
but you can to to have one of those guys,
but you can in fact win if you don't have
that star power in the middle of your lineup. He's
Arara Torres, I'm Dan Byers sitting in for Doug Gottlieb.
But made me kind of think too of of the

(49:40):
pack twelve, and I started to think, remember, you know,
in college football, and early two thousands, you know, Oklahoma
wins the the National Championship. They they end up getting
the title with Bob stoops and they threw the ball
a lot, threw the ball all over the place. And
then you see other teams trying to do that, and
now you're getting the Pack twelve in college football, and
it seemed like everybody was trying to open it up

(50:02):
or do some form. And then you had Stanford being
the team that was We're gonna run the football and
play defense and and you know, so you're trying to
do something different, but you try to fit in your own,
your mold, or try to figure out a way to
be different than the others, but work within your parameters
to compete with the others. I think that's what you
get in Major League Baseball. Listen, the Yankees are always

(50:23):
going to outspend um, you know, twenty nine of the
Major League Baseball teams. Same with the Dodgers, same with
the Red Sex. They're always going to be there. The
other teams just have to figure out a way to
to compete. And I don't think that changes with any
of this. No, I don't disagree, and I just think
that the way baseball is structured. It's just so fascinating because,

(50:44):
like I said, we now have a pretty good track
record that some of these big contracts are actually a
detriment to a team, not an advantage. I don't think
the Dodgers are necessarily in that category at this moment
because they can spend everywhere and on whomever they need,
but it is kind of an interesting dynamic to watch
going forward. He's Aaron Taures. I'm Dan Buyer. This is

(51:04):
the Doug Gottlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
Aaron on Twitter at Aaron Underscore Torres. I'm at Dan
Buyer on Fox. Coming up next, there will be no
preseason games in the NFL. Is that a good or
bad thing for the players? We'll talk about that next
year on Fox. Be sure to catch the live edition
of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.

(51:25):
Easter noon Pacific. You know, I really want John to
play this song to the chorus so we can all
sing thunder Chief at the same time. He's Aaron Torres.
I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Doug Gottlib Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. We are sitting in for Doug today,
John Ramos is our technical producer. Uh playing the ones

(51:46):
and twos if you will, and we start talking about
wrong song lyrics, and Chaz tweeted in that's he thought
that dirty deeds done dirt cheap were dirty deeds. In
the thunder Chief, Okay, yes, if it's done so yeah,
so I want you to to listen closely, all right

(52:06):
days and the thunder Chief, oh Eric tweets in my
wife told me she used to think rocky like a
hurricane was actually raunchy like a hurricane. Yeah, and my

(52:28):
my wife gave me the the the go ahead. In
Elton John's I'm Still Standing, she thought he was singing
I'm Phil Diamond and yeah, when you hear it, you're
gonna be kind of like huh. So I told this
to some friends of mine at my wedding, and my

(52:49):
buddy had the DJ play I'm still Standing. Until then
everybody in chorus was you know, I'm Phil Damn And yes, yeah,
she thought it was I'm she understood like later on
she realized it was I'm still standing, But for for
a while, when she was younger, she thought it was
I'm Phil Diamond. Those things happen, They really do you're

(53:10):
just defending her now she's in the other room. She
can hear you, can't she that's what's going on. She
gave me, she gave me the the the go ahead.
But I'm Phil Diamond. Yes, raunchy like a hurricane and
dirty deeds in the thunder Chief just some of the
wrong lyrics that have been passed along to us today
here on Fox Sports Radio as we are sitting in
for Doug Gottlieb. He's Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer. Get

(53:32):
Aeron on Twitter, at Aeron Underscore Torres, I'm at Dan
Buyer on Fox. I'm curious, Aaron, when you hear that
the National Football League says, all right, you know, players Association,
you'll get your wish zero preseason games. Is is this
the National Football League giving into the players Association? Is
this just the owners ending up thinking well, hey, it's

(53:55):
really not going to be a benefit for us to
have these games. Was this a good will YaST year?
Was this a good move for the National Football League?
Do you think? Yeah? It's really interesting. I was surprised
how quickly the owners just were like, yeah, okay, no problems. Um,
And I don't really know exactly what it is. I mean,
maybe part of it is their realization that they dragged

(54:17):
their feet for way too long on protocols and and
testing and all that. I mean to me, it strikes
me as just another negotiating point. Right, We're gonna give
you this right up front. We're gonna be very public
about it, so the world knows we gave you no
preseason games. You don't have to Patrick Mahomes, you don't
have to travel to Seattle for a game where you're
gonna play two snaps and then get pulled out. But

(54:38):
I think it's all part of a negotiating ploy as
they get set to kind of figure out what testing
protocols are gonna look like, what safety procedures are gonna
look like. And this is an easy public win for them,
especially by the way, in a year where they're not
gonna be able to bring fans to stadiums, probably for
preseason games. Anyway, you know, Doug yesterday on this show,
because we had a bit of a discussion at the end,

(54:58):
and and I told him that I I thought that
the NFL would at least want to have one game
just just to to try to figure out all the logistics,
and Doug's point was and and and and you know,
the more I think about it, the more that I
think that Doug is correct in this. It's just that
the owners were like, all right, this isn't gonna be
good for us. We're not gonna make any money off

(55:19):
of this. To your point, this is gonna look like
it's a feel good thing, or that we're we're we're
trying to be safe, or we are trying to go
along with what the players Association wanted. But in all reality,
this is an owner driven thing where they don't have
to have games, it's not gonna cost them money. And
yet Aaron allows them to keep preseason games in future seasons,

(55:42):
where then they can say, well, we did it because
of the pandemic at that time and it was safe
for everyone. But realistically, we do need these three preseason
games to go along with the seventeen game schedule that
will be in effect after this upcoming season. So the
NFL really seems to be knowing how to play. Yeah,
And I do think it's it's funny as we have

(56:03):
NBA games back on our TV today the first day
of exhibitions. It's funny how the public perception is, oh,
Adam Silver, he's a players commissioner, and he listens to
the players and he cares about their input. No, he
still works for the owners. But I bring it up
to say, when we talk about the NFL owners's exactly
they don't care about the players. More games, more hits
to the head, nobody cares about the players. Well, this

(56:26):
is just an easy way, as you said, to pick
up a big public win and what could end up
being a contentious negotiation in terms of what these protocols
are gonna be. No different than Major League Baseball. Uh
And as you said, it doesn't affect their bottom line
in the long run because one, we probably want to
have fans in most of these stadiums anyways. And two

(56:48):
it isn't a long term we're eliminating preseason games forever. Now,
maybe it gets there. I don't think that it does.
But as you said, they can bring them back next
year and say, well, look that was the pandemic that
was then, this is now we're playing We're back to
playing four, you know, three whatever it is preseason games.
And and there there was some point pointing on to
no Pro Football Talk dot Com. I think brought up
this point of is this the National Football League now

(57:11):
allowing them to maybe push for the eighteen game season.
I do think that there is something looking into the
the seventeen game regular season in the three game preseason,
at least try it or get a taste of it
before you want to move uh to the next point.
Daniel jerrold Meyer, the NFL Network, the radio color analysts

(57:32):
for the Chargers, and former NFL scout, now joins this
year on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Hey Daniel, thanks so
much for taking the time. Appreciate you coming on again.
How are you so? I'm doing great story about being
fashionably late there. Oh, that's all right, that's all right.
Aaron and I were kind of just you know, boncing
around some of the topics. We were gonna ask you
about the the zero preseason games sort of discussion. Is
this solely just done? Did the owners give this because

(57:55):
it's in their best interest to not have any games
or was this an actual concession to the players association? Well,
I think that, you know, from ownership standpoint, was still
some revenue opportunities there if you play in the preseason,
So I think it was a concession that they give
up something. But I've always felt like, you know, let's
sep the main thing, the main thing, and that's you

(58:16):
can't get through a season if you don't start a season.
So let's get to the starting line. And I think
when you look at the different protocols that are in place,
you look at the you know, reducing the roster side
that eliminates some risk, the lack of preseason games, the
lack of of of joint practices, all these things are
done to get us to the starting line. And I'm

(58:37):
more confident now than than I've been in a long time.
I know what's going on with hotspots all over the country.
I know those numbers are not good or not encouraging.
But when I look at the colleges when they've brought
the guys in initially and seen those testing numbers, which
some of them were high, um, once they've been in
that controlled environment, the numbers that have been very low

(58:58):
and very controllable. And I feel like the NFL is
going to be able to foster and even safer environment
than any of the college can colleges can because of
the sheer money they have for all the testing. Daniel,
it's kind of a topic from a few days ago.
But we we heard all offseason the NFL is the
one league that has time to figure this all out.
Yet we you know, we approach training camp and all

(59:20):
of a sudden there's this big back and forth between
the owners and the players about safety protocols, all that
stuff that wasn't done weeks ago, months ago, whatever. Why
did it take so long? Why were things not in
place earlier? Or was it just simply both league and
players kind of monitoring things and things have obviously changed
week to week, month to month over the off season. Yeah,

(59:40):
I think that's probably more it. You know. We uh,
we had a chance to talk with some of the
medical folks from the NFL and they were just talking
about how everything is changing rapidly. And when you think
about these guys, we we look at and say, Okay,
you've got the two sides. You've got the NFL side
of the NFL p a that you communicate these things
and work things out. Well. I mean, they're talking with
the CDC, they're talking with all the government officials, they're

(01:00:03):
talking with everybody that's trying to be involved in this
whole thing with healthcare. Um, there's a lot of connecting
you have to do if you're the NFL to be
able to make this thing go. And um, I can
understand the NFLP being frustrated with some of the lack
of communication there, But to me, I don't think these guys.
The way it was portrayed was that the NFL had just,
you know, was sitting on a beach stiffing cocktails and

(01:00:24):
then all of a sudden, I was like, Oh, the
seasons here, what do we do? I don't think that
was the case. Daniel Jeremiah, the NFL Network, joining us
here on the Doug Outlive show on Fox Sports Radio.
He's here and Taures I'm Dan Buyer sitting in for
Doug today. Where are the coaches in all of this,
because I don't know if they're in the middle or
if they're just out on the island. But you have
the owners, you have the players union. What are the

(01:00:44):
coaches concerns going into this this preseason with what seems
to be not a lot of say on how this
preseason is going to go. Yeah, I mean coaches are
always gonna want more time. They want more time with
their guys, they want more competitive periods of practice. But
you know. And again I preface this by saying, I'm
forty two years old and I've got a bunch of

(01:01:06):
buddies in in the in the NFL on the coaching side,
but they're all a similar age, so I can't you know,
I'm sure there's some crusty older guys they're not happy
with this, that or the other. The guys that I've
talked to have been very retonaal about it and saying, hey,
we just we we got to just get this thing
going and we're gonna be able to make it work.
We're adapting to just they've already found that some of

(01:01:26):
the zoom meeting stuff that they've done with their players
from a learning standpoint, they feel like they're tapped into
something there that that's actually an upgrade over, you know,
some of the other off season stuff they've done in
years past. So they've been pretty open to it and
and finding a way to make this whole thing work
with such a unique offseason, Daniel, between the players not
being able to get together as much as normal, if
at all. Obviously the limited preseason, what do you think

(01:01:50):
is going to be the biggest actual tangible uh negative?
Once players get to the field in terms of quality
of play. What what is the one thing that's gonna
be missing because of all the chaos of the last
four or five months. Well, I think we're just talking
about as it always is really over the last probably decades,
since we've really filed back the contact of the tackling

(01:02:10):
in the first court of the seasons terrible. Um, And
that's gonna be the same case here. It's gonna be
as bad as it's ever been at the beginning portion
of the season because there's not many padded practices, um So,
and you eliminate the joint practices where they're at leven
I not going to the ground, there's some collisions and
it's a more physical practice. Um We're not gonna have
any of that, So I would I would expect we'll

(01:02:30):
probably see some some swappy football early on. And the
other thing that we can't account for is, you know,
the good side of of the break. If you saw
Roethlisberger the other day, he looked like he's in unbelievable shape,
would have lost thirty pounds. There's gonna be some guys
that find the thirty pounds as you lost. I can
promise you Daniel Jeremiah, the NFL Network joining us here
on Fox Sports Radio. Last one for me, if if

(01:02:54):
there isn't a college football season, I know that's absolutely
positively worst case scenario. Let's just say that it was
moved to the bring. How does that affect your former
job as an NFL scout? How do those guys go
along with things? How would the NFL view that if
there were no college football season this fall? Well, you're
gonna be okay on guys that have good tape. So

(01:03:14):
if you know, are looking at somebody like a Trevor
Lawrence or Justin Field. For some of these guys that
have been you know traffic again, like we we've seen
plenty of them against good competition. There's enough to evaluate them.
You're very comfortable there's gonna be other guys that you're
gonna miss out on the who have emerged in the
in the season this year that maybe you know, you
look at l s U last year, guys like Clyde Edwards, Layer,

(01:03:35):
obviously Joe Burrow with a great example justin Jeffrey All
really really helped himself. So some of those guys are
gonna be outside the you know, the first round you're
gonna you're gonna end up in this next draft if
we have you know, if we lose the season, you're
gonna see some awful first round picks, guys that end
up being big time bus and you're gonna see guys
in the fifth, six round that end up being Hall

(01:03:55):
of Fame players, because that's just what it is. You
have regression and you have guys that improve. We won't
get a chance to see that. So if I was
picking in the top ten, i'd feel comfortable. I know
those top you know, ten fifteen players, and you feel
good about him. But if I was taking twenty two,
I don't know, there's gonna be different from twenty two
and seventy two. Wow, that teams trading out of the
first round to pick up a sixth surrounder, You know that.

(01:04:17):
I keep an eye on that too, because there's some veterans,
you know, you hear different names and all that kind
of stuff. Like it wouldn't shock me if we saw
some trade because I think some teams are gonna say,
with the limited information potentially in the draft next year,
they don't necessarily do that first round picks as valuable
as it would be in another year. Get him on
Twitter at Move the Sticks. Former NFL Scout NFL Network

(01:04:37):
analyst Daniel Jeremiah joining us here on the Doug Gotlib Show. Daniel,
thanks for the time. We appreciate it. Uh yeah, we'll
talk to you soon. Have a good day. O take.
He's Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Doug
Gotlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Steve Hennigan sweets in.
My wife thought the TLC song Waterfalls was don't Go
Jason Waterfalls. So I'm not sure where Jason in Waterfalls

(01:05:01):
come into this, but that's what Steve's wife thought. The
TLC hit song was as we hit incorrect song lyrics
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(01:05:23):
Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Because the Aaron Torres
may need your help, may need the help of John Ramos,
and may need the help of Ryan Music as he
plays a game. I like to call in the nick
of time. Now this is gonna replace googly Mooglie. I
am retiring googly moogli erin Torres. So this is like
a permanent retirement or is it like one of those
boxing retirements where it comes out like six months later. No,

(01:05:43):
I think this is good. I don't think it's gonna
be an Antonio Braun retirement either. I think googly Mooglie
will be will be done. It did have a nice run,
but but I love this game. Developed this last summer.
Uh what, I did a show with FS one College
Hoop's analyst, Nick Boss, so it's kind of named after him.
What we're keeping the same name. Basically, what you need
to do, Aaron, You just need to give me all

(01:06:04):
of the answers in seventy five seconds to a topic
that I'm going to give you. If you don't know
the answer, you have two options. You can ask John Ramos,
Ryan Music or Steve to Seger for some help and
they can help you with the answer. Or you can
say a phrase that may not be the greatest phrase
in the world, but you can say it and I

(01:06:25):
will reveal one answer. But the goal is is to
try to get as many right and by the way,
you can get as many wrong You're not gonna be
penalized for getting one wrong. It's just the goal of
filling out the board. Okay, does that make sense? So
you ask a question just as quickly as I can,
don't think about either know the answer guests or ask
one of the guys. For example, if I said I
want to know the sixteen teams in the a f

(01:06:47):
C in the NFL, you would go PA can correct,
bills correct, and then if you said Eagles, let's say incorrect.
And if you were stuck, you could go to John
Ryan or Steve to try to help you out. Okay, guys,
you plugged in, you locked in. You to go the music.
The music will start on my cue. But I have
to tell you the phrase that you would have to
say if you want an answer revealed. Okay. That phrase is,

(01:07:11):
and I'm quoting Arnie Spaniard is so hot. Okay, that's
the phrase you will have if I am going to
give you an answer. There's a price to everything. Erin Torres,
Are you ready to play in the nick of time?
I mean, how how are you gonna make me say
that on radio when his wife has never even said
he'd rather lose? All right? Are you ready to go.

(01:07:33):
I will give you the topic and start the clock.
I want to know the thirteen players and this does
include reported contracts today who have received the most lucrative
contracts overall in baseball history. That's by total value. Your
seventy five seconds begins now. Mike Trout, Mookie Bets, Mookie Bets,

(01:07:58):
Alex Rodriguez correct, Bryce Harper correct, Manny Machado correct, Garrett Cole. Guys,
get to work because I'm running out of names here.
Uh de Seger, Anthony Ndo and Angels. That is correct. Uh.
Anybody else anyway, feel free to jump in. Ramo's go ahead.
Stanton that is Carlos Stanton, Clayton Kershaw incorrect? What about it?

(01:08:21):
What about a Rod twice? Yeah, a Rod counts on both.
But that works. Uh no, that guy's not it. Um
to go five more to go? That is correct, Bryan Howard,
that is incorrect. Uh, Steven Strassburg that that is correct,

(01:08:42):
Steven Strassburg, Baseball picture picture pitcher, uh d incorrect? Players
how many nine? Cabrera three? Now you need to Cabrera
is in two more? Two more to go? Yes, you're

(01:09:10):
one away, You're one way, oh Man and apparently Arnie
Spaniard is not so hot. You never used You got
twelve of the players, and Steve was right. Alex Rodriguez
actually twice on this list, but we counted him as one,
Mike Trout, Mookie Betts, Bryce Harper, John Carlos Stanton, Garrett Cole,

(01:09:33):
Mannie Machadow, Alex Rodriguez, the eighth spot. I will tell
you at the end of ninth a rod again, mcguel Caberra,
Steven Strassburg, Anthony Rendon, Albert pooh Holes, Robinson Cano and
the name you forgot Nolan Arinado the Colorado Rockies. Yes,
you can have given me seconds. Hey, if you just

(01:09:53):
would have said Arnie Spanier is so hot, then maybe
I would have revealed it. But that's a pretty good effort, guys.
Right way to go, Yeah, way to go. The players
that you've got, and it's actually the top four team
because a rod is Is Steve mentioned was in there twice.
Not a bad uh, not a bad life to leave
or live? You like that game? You like that one?

(01:10:15):
I did. I tweeted that exact same thing earlier when
but when I was prepping for the show and I
saw a rod Is twice in the top ten or whatever. Uh, well,
you could buy a franchise with that money. Some might say, yeah,
what a life that guy's got. So he says, yes,
the game is great, except for that whole phrase. He
would have to say, that's part of the catch. You know,

(01:10:36):
that's that's the whole deal. If you want an answer
revealed and he can sleep at night. Now, yeah, maybe
we'll keep that. That was I was gonna say, they're
gonna use that audio drop against me every episode of
every fill in every regular show I do. It just
wasn't worth it. It wasn't worth winning the game. You know. Well,
a good job, a good showing twelve out of the
thirteen players done in the nick of time. Here on

(01:10:57):
Fox Sports Radio, He's Hera Torres, Dan Buyer. This is
the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Thanks
to Steve di Seger at the news desk, John Ramo said,
the technical board, and our executive producer, Ryan Music, everyone
contributing to a job well done in that game. Coming
up next, one NBA MVP candidate feels that another player

(01:11:18):
should actually win the m v P. We'll tell you
who that is next year. On Fox Sports Radio. Be
sure to catch the live edition of The Doug gott
Leap Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app.
Ah These wrong song lyrics are Dandy's Bertie Fratto chiming
in uh an amazing and amazing take on a on

(01:11:40):
a classic from CCR. We're gonna have to get to
that a little bit, Aaron Easier and Torres. I'm Dan
Buyer sitting in for Doug Gottlieb today. That's because Doug
usually at this time likes to take something from mother
f S one or Fox Sports Radio some of that
was very interesting and play it back and respond to
it in a segment he likes to call. And now
I'd say Aaron. Damian Lillard was on Dan Patrick or

(01:12:03):
was with Dan Patrick today on the Dan Patrick Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. And while Lillard is a
candidate to win the NBA's Most Valuable Player Award, he
actually thinks Lebron James should be the m v P.
I don't think you can go wrong with Lebron or Janice,
but in my opinion, I think MS Lebron just because
he's the number one seed in the Western Conference, and

(01:12:26):
I feel like he's had a dominant season to be
and what is it for him? Your seventeam leading the
league and assists, Like I said before, number one in
the West, the level that they have been playing that
right before the season was suspended. I don't think it's
it should be any argument with you know, either guy
get no war, but I would say lebron because of
how he's been able to take that team from a

(01:12:48):
non playoff team over the last however many years and
now they just jumped to number one. That's his impact.
Obviously you got a D there too, But you know,
I think lebron Um is definitely worthy of being and
we be That was from Damian Lillard earlier today. Now
there's a lot to take from it. The one quick
thing that I'll say, I don't care if it's a
year seventeen or or year two, that that doesn't matter

(01:13:10):
when you're trying to determine the m v P of
this season. Uh. In fact, that is stuff that definitely
shouldn't be considered. If if you're going to say, well
let's give it to this guy's in year seventeen, I
I think that would be the least important thing. Um,
that is not relevant at all to who should win
the m v P Award this season. Yeah, it's not
a career achievement award, um. But you know, I I

(01:13:32):
think that Damian Lillard makes some very compelling points, and
I think that there's the statistical element. There's the fact
that the team is in first place. And oh, by
the way, you talk about year seventeen, whether it matters
or not, Lebron played sixty out of sixty three games
this year, and so I look at it from the
situation that, um, you know, he's on the court. And

(01:13:53):
by the way, I'm not Mr. I hate load management.
You know, it's a terrible thing. I understand why it happens.
But he's on the court, his team's having success. Uh,
Anthony Davis obviously missed some time here and there, and
so for him to do this with all the variables,
I have no problem at all with the Brown and
the MVP. So that there was that's my that's my bad.

(01:14:17):
That was my bad. I was gonna let Aaron at
the last word. I'll just add this into it. I
don't think you could just you know, passively be like
I know they you know. I don't think you could
passively say I know they added Anthony Davis, but like
that's a really big deal, Like that's it. That's a
huge deal. And Lebron's comments the other day, we're you know,
to me of saying like, well, you know, they always

(01:14:37):
said this about me when I was in the East,
about doing it in the West. Not only was that
him trying to lift his case, he was also trying
to knock your honest his case of of being and
of being like, all right, he's in the Eastern. But
I just I don't think that you can just could
just be like, yeah, I know they and added Anthony Davis. No,
that's a pretty big part because there was one point
early on in the season where we thought maybe Anthony

(01:14:59):
Davis was the m v P. He's Aeron Torres, I'm
Dan Buyer. My vote is for Jannice. This is the
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. College football still
doesn't know if they're going to have a season. Heck,
the Power five conferences don't even know who's leading them.
We'll talk about that next year on the Doug Gotleab
Show on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch the

(01:15:20):
live edition of The Doug gott Leap Show weekdays at
three p m. Easter noon Pacific, rolling on on a Wednesday,
So glad to have you with us. You may have
heard Steve de Seger from the News desk say it,
but our first NBA scrimmages in the books, and about
twenty minutes or so, we'll check in with Michael Lee
to talk about the NBA, what we can learn from

(01:15:40):
these scrimmages, and what is ahead Clippers playing without Patrick
Beverley Mantras, Harold left the Bubble, there are some other defections.
Will dive into those topics as well. Get Aaron on
Twitter at Aaron Underscore Torres. I'm at Dan Buyer on Fox,
and I was trying to figure out a way to
transition to the is because I teased it before. But basically, Aaron,

(01:16:02):
throughout the show we've been we've been touching on misheard
song lyrics or wrong song lyrics when you thought the
line was one thing and it turns out it was another.
And I teased our teammate here at Fox Sports Radio
Bernie Fratto's tweet. He tweeted in Credence Clearwater Revivals, Bad
Moon Rising as a line that goes, there's a bad

(01:16:25):
moon on the rise, and he said that there's an
old friend that thought it was there's a bathroom on
the right. And I don't know if Bernie, if I'm
Bernie's old friend, but that's what I assumed that it
was as well. I never really looked deeply in the CCR,
but that is what I thought that the line, you know,
could have been. But it makes a lot more sense

(01:16:48):
that a bad moon on the rise than a bathroom
on the rights, considering the song is called bad Moon Rising.
I saw that that's pretty good. Shout out to Bernie,
who obviously, yeah host Fox Sports Radio, but that that
was one of my favorites that we've gotten throughout the day.
They have been amazing. I wish we had some amazing
news about college football. But I did start the show

(01:17:10):
and saying that that there may be some good news
for college football, and Aaron was like, what are you
talking about. There's there's there's there's been no good news
and and let's be honest here, and you've tried to
be you know, Mr Positive through all of this, trying
to keep a you know, trying to keep your head
up that we're gonna get sports in the fall. We're
trying to, you know, trying to be positive with all
of this. I will try to give you some positive news.

(01:17:33):
Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith on ninety seven point
one FM in Columbus earlier today was talking with Bishop
and Laura IDAs in that show and and talking about
the future of the college football season. And this is
what Gene Smith had to say about the Big Ten situation. Now,

(01:17:55):
we expect that the Big Ten is gonna if they
do play, would play ten game schedule of conference opponents.
But this is where the good news I think comes.
As part of this piece, it was brought up about
canceling the season entirely or playing spring football. And while
some of the conferences around college football at the FBS level,

(01:18:17):
maybe group of five, have talked about that, what Gene
Smith said that show was was that the Big Ten
has not talked about either of those options as of yet.
So to me, like when when you're trying to figure
out everything and everything being on the table, of them
not talking about those options makes me think that the

(01:18:38):
Big Ten um and the conference at first came out
and said we're not gonna play nonconference games, but thinks
that there could be a way to have college football
on the fall. Yeah, and I think it it plays
to most of what I've heard, which is that, listen,
we understand there's a lot of play, uh, financially for
these schools, for these athletic departments. Also for these play

(01:19:00):
is to get a season and is Daniel Jeremiah referenced
an hour two. But I also I'm of the belief
that they are going to do everything they can to
get a to get games in in the fall, even
if it means postponing, delaying starting the seat. Some people
have talked about even starting the season early. Oklahoma proposed
moving up their week one game a week. Uh if

(01:19:21):
it means starting the season late, if it means condensing
the schedule. So I am not surprised to hear it
at all. And what I'll say really quick, Dan and
toss it back to you. I was obviously really bummed
when I saw the Big Ten news, but the more
that I kind of thought about it, I thought it
might actually be weirdly a good thing, because the Big
Ten going to conference only games is what they believe

(01:19:43):
is the safest and best way to actually get games
on the field. So yes, it's a bummer we're not
gonna get some of those big out of conference games Oregon,
Ohio State, Michigan, Washington. But I also do think that
in a weird way, it was a positive when the
Big Ten said, this is our decision and we're moving
forward with this plan and giving ourselves quite a bit

(01:20:04):
of time to actually implement this plan. I think the
initial shock of hearing no nonconference games in college football
was just that of the shock. And you mentioned that
Ohio State was going to be at Oregon, but but realistically,
would Oregon want that game if no fans were allowed
in the stadium or or ten to twelve thousand fans.
I mean, one of the great things about Oregon is

(01:20:27):
is playing at Oregon and in one of the loudest
stadiums that that you could find in college football, And
when you have one of the top programs coming in,
you would want the full effect. The other point of
it that that and and when you look at the
Big Ten, and it's crazy because the Big Ten is
actually uh not been benefited from this um for a

(01:20:48):
couple of years ago twice on two occasions. But realistically,
when you look at how college football has played out aaron,
the nonconference games that we have, I would say, outside
of last year's Oregon Auburn game, really haven't had a
play in how we look at the college football playoffs.

(01:21:09):
It's different when we look at college basketball and you
try to look at how many you know, quad one
wins a team as or you know who they played.
In college football, it really does come down to what
you do in the conference. And in Oregon, maybe they
beat Auburn last year, they're able to get into the
playoff over Oklahoma, and trying to say like, look, we

(01:21:30):
went on a neutral field that maybe really wasn't even
neutral for the fan wise in Dallas, and we beat
an Auburn team. We want our conference, this is why
we should be there. I will give Oregon that, But
by and large, with what we've seen throughout college football,
I don't think that we've had a bunch of nonconference
games or or or more than a handful that have

(01:21:52):
had any say in the college football playoff. And I
think you can even point to the first year when
Ohio State lost to Virginia Tech and then was able
to run the table and end up winning a national
championship that year. That was a home game to a
team that ended up not being ranked at the end
of the year. So so with saying all of that,
by keeping it within conference, I do think that it

(01:22:13):
still then allows you also to have a college football playoff.
And I think that's maybe even what the Big Ten
was looking at of like, all right, if we handle
our own business, you can still figure out the college
football playoff. We can still do our thing how we're
going to do it, and none of that would be effective.
So I think that that that's a big deal if
you're looking to to have a season and complete a
season with a playoff. Absolutely, and it's just so fascinating

(01:22:34):
to see how different areas of the country, different conferences
are handling this whole situation. You look at the Big Ten,
and I think they have a pretty concrete plan in place.
I think it'd be easy to look at the Pac
twelve and say they were following the Big Ten's lead,
But the bottom line with the Pack twelve was they
were basically looking at the states in their footprint and saying,

(01:22:55):
we don't think we're actually gonna be able to get
anything on the field in Week one because a lot
of our facilities aren't open. There's limitations in our states,
and it has proven to be actually correct. Larry Scott
gets a lot of criticism for a lot of stuff,
the Pack twelve commissioner, but he was right. You know,
Jim's closed here in California last week, U, S, C, U, C,
l A were booted out of their own facilities. And

(01:23:16):
I don't think they're gonna play Week one. I don't
think they're gonna play maybe U till the middle of September.
And so you kind of look at those two situations.
What's going on in the SEC. I think it's gonna
be an absolutely fascinating season just from the perspective that
we are gonna have. It's gonna be so impossible to
judge teams against each other where you have potentially the A, C, C,
and the SEC in the Big twelve all playing a

(01:23:39):
quote unquote sort of normal twelve game schedule out of
conference games with a Big ten going league only, Pack
twelve going league only, but maybe not even hitting that
ten game threshold that the Big Ten does. How much
do you think that this is and I say the
n C double a UM but them not wanting to

(01:24:00):
because by and large they're really they're not. They don't
have to say in in uh FBS college football, But
how much is this trying to cover what collegiate sports
really is or they don't want their cover blown because
it's difficult to say, we can't have students in these
other sports beyond campus, but we have to have football

(01:24:23):
because why well, because it brings in the money, like
there's there's their cover will be blown if football is
the only sport that is coming back, That's my question.
So that's that's what I wanted, like, is this is
this all basically because of that um because if you
don't also don't have football, you don't have your other
athletic programs, which is is something that also is part

(01:24:46):
of the discussion. But that's what I think the hang
up here is. I think it would be easy to
maybe cancel the other sports, but you can't do it
because you don't want it to appear that football isn't
really what you're trying to make it. And one of
the interesting just dynamics of just talking to people around
college athletics is you can't get a straight and not

(01:25:06):
even straight answers. It's a people's opinions, and it's it's
informed and educated opinion on what is the best case
scenario in terms of so many of these variables. Right, So,
you look at the concept of kids, of of non
athletes being on campus. Actually, as we've done our show
here today, Clemson has announced that Clemson, obviously being one
of the big college football powers, they're not gonna have

(01:25:29):
students on campus for the first few weeks of school.
It's not a semester long thing whatever. But you know,
you talked to some people in college athletics, they'll tell you, well,
if there's no students on campus, you can't play football
because because of the optics that way. But I've also
talked to people that have said the opposite, that it
actually makes more sense to play sports and it's actually
safer to play sports without college students on campus because

(01:25:52):
then you create that quote unquote bubble like environment on
a college campus. And so that is the fascinating thing. Uh.
You know, I'm certainly not the first person gonna say it,
but we've all known that college football and college athletics
in general creates logistical issues that no other UH sports
entity creates or has. But it's also just so interesting

(01:26:13):
to speak with people inside that community over what the
best practices are. You talk to twenty different people, you
get twenty different variations. I'm from a different generation that
you are. I'm I'm a little bit older than you
in the case where we are at different times, or
some of us that are maybe closer in age. But
the point being is if I had the opportunity when

(01:26:34):
I was in college, um by staying in the dorms
or or whatever and not walking, you know, as far
as they do on campus to the class, if I
had the option to do that, I probably would, you know,
I probably I would probably you know, take the you know,
take the option to do the class online as opposed
to getting out of bed and showering and doing all

(01:26:55):
that stuff. And I feel that some of these decisions,
even with college or stuff, that we're finding out in
the real worre old of people being able to do
their work from uh from home as opposed to going
into an office building. And so I think I think
the online classes part of it is it's tough to
do the parallel. I think there's just more of a
parallel of if you're going to allow those other students

(01:27:17):
in those other sports to come um to come on
campus and have those sports. That's the tricky thing for me.
It's a great point, right, and it is a great point.
And it's if you can't if it's if you deem
it not safe or not worthwhile for women's soccer to play,
or men's soccer or whatever the fall sports are volleyball.

(01:27:37):
It kind of is hard to justify, uh, keeping football
on the field if you're not, as you said, just
gonna push aside the optics and say we don't care that.
Everybody knows that these kids are only here to make
the athletic departments money, the TV networks money, all that.
So what does a group of five, the power five,
excuse me, have to do? I mean, you know, Mac

(01:27:58):
Brown has called for a commissioner, um Mark Emmert. You
know is is gets roasted left and right and hasn't
really necessarily given great direction. It's all been more of
the conferences and the schools making their own decisions. But
if your power five, do you know point a commissioner?
Do you just let the the conference commissioners decide? How
do you go forward if things change in college sports? Yeah?

(01:28:21):
I think that there needs to be one voice for
college sports, and ironically it seems to have become Greg Sanky,
the commissioner of the SEC. But obviously he is only
looking out for the SEC's best interest. He doesn't care
about what happens in the Big Ten, Pack twelve, let
alone the MAC or the Mountain West. So I do think,
and I think in basketball too, there has to be
This is something coach k has talked about, is you know,

(01:28:42):
we could have changes to NBA draft rules. We've had
so many changes with UH agents and and all the
stuff that's come out of the FBI probe in college basketball,
but there's not one person making the decisions or at
the very least answering the questions. And so um I
do think that there's got to be some kind of
person that oversees college college football outside of the conference levels.

(01:29:05):
I mean, I was just thinking about this is that.
I mean, imagine if if we were ready to start
baseball season and the National League just came out and
said we're playing seventy two games and the a I
was like, we're playing thirty three and we're not traveling.
It's it's like it would be preposterous. But that's exactly
what we're doing in college You know, it may be
a bad example because that's what happened the American leagues

(01:29:26):
that we don't we have the d H. And I
was like, no, so so maybe, but but to your point,
isn't it ridiculous when you were looking at Major League
Baseball of being like, why does one league have one
rule and why does one league have another? Sure, you
think gets hypothetically, but it actually was reality, so you
actually have something in reality to look at it. And
you know what the funny thing is is there are

(01:29:47):
people who are pro d H, there are people who
are anti d H. So I don't know if you
would get that case in college football, but yeah, I
just you know, each of these leagues is so different,
you know, from the Big Ten to the SEC. You know,
for from the Pack twelve. It would be nice in
theory to have that commission, but I don't think that
you would get these leagues. Um, maybe it would maybe

(01:30:09):
it would stop the Big Ten from maybe coming out
and making their statement while the other leagues are still
waiting to have action that that maybe would solve some
of the problems. But uh, hopefully we'll get an answer
at some point. A C c said late July. We're
in the beginning of late July, so we should find out, um,
at least at the latest, what like August third, of
what's actually going to happen with college football. He's raatoris

(01:30:33):
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He's Aaron Torres. We're sitting in for Doug today. We
appreciate all of your wrong song lyrics. By the way,
Ryan Music are executive producer. Um, you didn't know that
you didn't get the correct name of this song. No,

(01:31:16):
I uh, I definitely thought it was always uh flirting
with the devil, Flirting with the devil. All right, let's uh,
let's let's see how close you were. So Dan Buyer
very on topic. I can't listen to the audio because

(01:31:39):
I'm obviously in the Fox Sports radio studio. But apparently
during the Clippers Magic preseason game, which was the launch
of the NBA Bubble, a Clippers announcer I don't know
if it was jokingly or seriously said that Mo Bomba
had a song named after him, which I assume is
law Bamba, but I'm not so there was. There was

(01:32:00):
it was it was? It was it Mamba was there.
There wasn't Mo Bamba song though it was a Mama
number five, I think, right, yeah, but I thought there
was something different. I remember it was like lou Bega
who had Mama Number five. But because in my early
early days I used to have to be a DJ,
and I would have to DJ like grade schools and

(01:32:21):
middle school dances, and they all wanted to hear Mama
number five, it was oh it was yeah, it was.
It was worth So when you say DJ, there's like
cool levels of DJ, and then there's that that's a
totally different animal. It is the Doug Gottlip Show here
on Fox Sports, where you'll get Aaron on Twitter at
Aaron Underscore Torres, I'm at Dan Buyer on Fox and

(01:32:43):
Music Reports is where you could find Ryan Music who
thought it was flirting with the devil. And by the way,
I'll give you a pass on that because it is
like background vocals. You know, you can't necessarily hear it clearly.
But uh, great stuff on the lyrics today. All right,
let's talk some hoops. Joining us now senior writer covering
me be a for the Athletic with one of the
greatest Twitter handles that there is, Mr Michael Lee. Michael

(01:33:05):
Lee joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey Michael,
how are you. I'm okay, but I'm I'm a little disturbed.
Let me just start off by saying that there was
a song called mo Bamba that came out two years
ago by rapper Check West who is in New York.
He grew up with mo Bamba. It was like one

(01:33:27):
of the hottest songs on the street that it was
the one of the hottest songs rap songs of and
it was incredible. Yeah, it was google it. It was
a song called mo Bamba. I thought that there was
And that's that's why when when they said, like I
thought that there was a mobile, absolutely was. It was.

(01:33:47):
It was big. It was a big hit. Sorry, Michael,
I was gonna say in my defense, I am known
in the Fox Sports radio studios as not a music guy.
Like I don't go to concerts, I don't listen to
music on the radio, and I've been like criticized ostracized
within our little community here. I just don't listen to music.

(01:34:08):
I listen to sports talk radio, I listen to whatever.
So I'll own that one, is what I'm trying to say.
So I just want to help you all out because,
like you know, I don't. I don't profess to be
the most uh you know, hip to like another modern
era hip hop on more old school nineties, you know,
early two thousands. That's more my sound, even in late eighties,
so that's more my my sound. But I know for

(01:34:29):
a fact that Mo Bamba is a big hit because
you couldn't go anywhere without hearing it, and especially leading
up to the draft, like it was pretty cool. Like
if I had if I had one of my homeboys
write a song about me, I wanted to be a
hype as mo Bamba. Okay, now we're not gonna let
you off the hook. Do you have a song lyric
that you had so wrong for so many years and
then we're shocked that you found out that it was
something different. Man, there's so many there's so many lyrics

(01:34:52):
I can't even think of right now that I probably
have like nine percent of them wrong. Anyway, you know, look,
I read the lyrics. I could, I could say something
I think I got wrong but actually was right, and
was something that was right was actually wrong. I don't know.
We we we've had a bunch. We had somebody who
thought Janet Jackson's what have you done for me lately?
It was what have you done for me? Nadine? So
I thought that that was easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you

(01:35:17):
wouldn't believe some of the ones that we've heard. Dirty
deeds done, dirt cheap. Somebody thought it was dirty deeds
and the thunder Chief. So yeah, it's been it's been great.
So we've been having fun with that. But what was
also fun one? Alright, let's hit up what we saw today.
So because we see Clippers Magic start off the scrimmage, uh,
Nuggets Wizards also playing as a scrimmage today. But when

(01:35:40):
you see this action of the NBA bubble and now
how it's going to be presented, how did you think
these first Scrimmages came off with these first games of
the bubble well, I mean, you know, it's just really impressive.
You know, it just shows you, um, what happens if
you commit to doing something. Uh, you know, the shows

(01:36:01):
their power of privilege and a plan. You know, the
NBA really executed the plan and they had the money
to invest into making sure that they could get off smoothly.
I mean, so far the first week, everything seems to
be going well. Guys aren't testing positive, they seem to
be enjoying bubble life for now. And uh, you know,
I think it just shows that, you know, if you
actually are committed to doing things the right way, that

(01:36:22):
you can find some success. And I think that's what
the NBA did. They try to do everything and and
uh you know, and do everything they could and make
the players feel comfortable, to make the teams feel comfortable
coming down there. And they had you know, a great
coporate sponsor partner in ESPN and Disney to help pull
it off. So they want to make this money, so
they gotta do whatever they can to make it happen. Michael.

(01:36:44):
When the guys got down there, there was obviously all
to talk about the food and the amenities into this,
into that. But it feels like in following these guys
on social media Instagram, Twitter, once they were able to
get out of their rooms, they're golfing, they're going to
you know, Dwight Howard went to the pool party, solo tennis.
Are they having it? It feels like they're having a
good time. It's almost like being back on college kind

(01:37:06):
of feels. Are you getting the sense from the guys
you talked to? Yeah, I mean Jamal Crawford, uh told
my colleagues dynamic that it reminds him like basketball camp.
So basically everybody, just the best basketball players in the
world just get the vote on a retreat to Disney
World for the whole summer. And that's kind of what
it's like. Um, we'll see how long, you know, they'll
enjoy it, because I think you know, right now it's

(01:37:27):
all fresh and new and it's like, okay, something different.
But if you're going to be in this three months,
you know, after while you might get tired of, you know,
going fishing and doing all those things that they're doing
right now. Is just like the first couple of days
of of like summer camp where you're in there where
you're meeting new friends and you're having fun and you're
just uh, you know. But at the longer it goes
more even like, man, I'm stuck here. Oh man. I

(01:37:50):
Michael Lee joining us here covering the NBA for the
Athletic here on the Dug Outlet Show, here on Fox
Sports Radio. He's here and tours. I'm Dan Buyer. I
I went to few bass ketball camps and there was
nothing greater than the last day. Oh it was. It was.
It was a lot of fun and doing the different stuff.
But the last day was awesome. And I think there's
gonna be a point with some of these players. I

(01:38:11):
know that some of the players have left the bubbles
I and Williamson Mantras, Harold Patrick Beverley uh for for
a variety of reasons that we do not know and
and may not be our business. But what I ask you, Michael,
did we really need this much time? Did we really
need these twenty two teams here? Do we need these

(01:38:34):
seeding games? Do we need Like My whole point is,
so what you guys were just talking about, it's nice
to think and we talked about two months and maybe
like the first week is great, but it's gonna get old,
and it's gonna get old quick. In my mind, now
that we are underway and in the bubble, do you
think we need this stuff that we're experiencing now and
we'll be experiencing in the next couple of weeks in respect,

(01:38:57):
we need basketball in general, meaning meaning should the NBA
if just started from the playoffs, did they need to
have these seeding games? They need to put these other
you know, because there's there's a same where, yeah, where
the Lakers could beat the Clippers and then there's no
point in playing their other seeds, you know, seven games,
because they would have the top seed already locked up.
That That was one of my issues. So that's kind

(01:39:18):
of what I'm getting at with the question. No, I
think it's all needed, um, you know, because one, you
need to get get ready to play the you know,
the intensity of the playoffs. You know, it's impossible to
really understand just how much how difficult it is to
play in the playoffs. To prepare for the playoffs, the
little level of intensities high. The scouting is much better.
I mean, the whole thing about the playoffs is that

(01:39:40):
every game plan is designed to stop you and the
regular season. That's not necessarily with the case. Everything is
sort of design to just run your plays and try
to win the game, and so it's much harder to score.
That's why they're truly great players. Really performing the postseason.
So that that when you go to that level of
intensity after not playing for four months, you put your
body at risk of really doing damage. So I think

(01:40:01):
that the scrimmages and some of these, you know, early
games and sort of just get your feet wet and
sort of like have like a preseason almost before you
jump into that intensity, because you don't want to do
that to your body. You don't want to do that.
There's one of the reasons why I like say John
Waller or Kevin Durant, they might be physically able to
play right now, but they don't want to jump right
into this after being gone for so long, because you're

(01:40:22):
gonna put your body at risk. So because you haven't
been playing for four months, so all of this is necessary.
It's necessary, not necessarily because of seating and things like that,
because that that may or may not affect things. You know,
maybe maybe the Blazers catch the Grizzlies or the Pelicans
or whatever, Maybe that happens, but I think more it's
just to allow teams to get ready, you know, in
getting themselves in game shape, because it's it's been a

(01:40:44):
long time without playing basketball, probably longer than most of
these guys have gone their whole lives. Last one for me, Michael.
Everyone kind of has their own opinion on what kind
of teams will have success long term in this bubble,
the younger teams, the older teams, the teams with continuity. Obviously,
we know who was in good position coming into this
whole situation with the bubble. What kind of teams or

(01:41:04):
is there a team that maybe people aren't talking about
that you're excited to see or you think and do
more damage than people are talking about. You know, there's
a lot of teams, So I think that you know,
this is a sort of situation where if you get hot,
you know, you could really, um, you know, pull off
some surprises. Um. I think the most intriguing team to
me is the one that could really be the most
compustible or the one that could really shock people in

(01:41:26):
that Philadelphia I think that's probably the most talented team
in the Eastern Conference from top to bottom. They have
all the pieces, they just may not have the right
personality to go out there and do it. And I'm
interested to see if they can, you know, get it
together in this sort of environment. Um. You know, the
chemistry was a little bit off during the regular season,
but I think if they could get it together, they
have the pieces in place. They I mean, they are

(01:41:48):
really deep. I mean they're like the Master Clippers, I
think in terms of talent just from top to bottom.
So um, I feel like if they could get it
figure it out, you know, with Ben Simmons and Joel
Embiade and Tobias Harris and how Horford. I mean, you've
got three All Stars already I just named, you know,
guys who can go out there and really perform at
a high level. Most teams can't boast that they can.

(01:42:09):
So they're an intriguing team. I'm also interested in seeing,
like a team like the Pelicans, like what they can
do if Zion can come back. You know, he actually
had to leave the bubble, but if he can come
back and play, I just think he just asked such
a boost to the league and just turned the attention
and what he could do for that team. They're able
to catch Memphis. I think that'll be fun too, if
they can get the Lakers in the first round. Um,

(01:42:29):
and also Portland's Portland's my dark horse. I think they
have a lot of talent, and they just added Nurkics
and Zach Collins to their roster. They could they could
shake things up. I'm not saying that they would beat
the Lakers, but I think they could really give them
a tough first round series. He's Michael Lee, senior writer
covering in the NBA for The Athletic. Find him on
Twitter at Mr Michael Lee. We appreciate the time, Michael,

(01:42:53):
enjoy the hoops. Will talk to you again soon. Yeah, sure,
for sure. And just just just for you guys to
know the hook mob It's billboards chart made up to
six on on the on the Hot one second. What's that?

(01:43:13):
It was a hit? It was a hit. It was
It was second on the R and B hip hop charts,
sixth on the Billboard Hot one. That's hey, hey, if
if all right, have a good one, Michael, We appreciate it. Um.
By the way, maybe we all heard the Mobama song,
we just didn't understand the lyrics and that's why we

(01:43:34):
didn't there you go. I thought they were saying, moa,
I can't even come up some clever off. He's Eric Torres.
I'm Dan Fier coming up next. If you had one
shot to take in the Orlando Bubble, what NBA superstar
would you want to take that shot? We'll answer that question.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug

(01:43:55):
gott Leap Show week days at three p m. Easter
noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the Heart Radio app.
Al Right, here's the question, one shot in the Orlando
Bubble of any of the NBA players of those twenty
two teams that are in the NBA Bubble, if you
needed a game winning shot, who takes it for you?

(01:44:17):
Aaron Torres, I hadn't really thought about it until you
brought it up a minute ago. I mean my hunch
is Kauai, right, I mean, you know Kauhi, I don't know,
you know, I mean Janice still is in a great
three point shooter. Do we have faith in uh, you know,
Harden or Westbrook in a big spot? I mean Kauai
two time finals MVP, reigning champion, uh, you know, finals MVP.

(01:44:38):
So to me, I guess I would probably go Kauai.
I would go with the guy that I picked that
uh for the m v p um at the start
of the season, Damian Lillard. Oh yeah, you know, for
for how clutchy is. But just the reason that I
was thinking of it was obviously, the Warriors are not
in Orlando. You don't have a healthy Clay Thompson. Uh,
you know you did in this past season. Steph missed

(01:45:00):
a lot of time, so the Warriors don't make it
to Orlando, so they're not there. Kyrie Irving obviously it's
one of the biggest shots in NBA history with his
Game seven three against the Warriors in the uh NBA Finals.
He's not playing for Brooklyn. Kevin Durant hasn't played all
season for the Brooklyn Nets. So these guys who have
hit big, big shots, you kind of go down the list.
And I'm glad that you mentioned Janice because realistically, I

(01:45:24):
don't think that he's the guy that a lot of
people would want to take that final shot. I think
if if your Milwaukee, it's you know, Chris Middleton is
the guy who's gonna end up maybe taking that shot.
Maybe the balls in Janice's hands and you let him
create to hit someone like Middleton on the outside. But
I think that some of the big shots that we've
maybe seen throughout the n B a uh in in
recent history, those players aren't there to make them. So

(01:45:46):
you go to Kauai who hit the game winner last
year against the Sixers, you go to Damian Lillard, who
eliminated the thunder and elimined of the Rockets. On on
big shots as well, I just I just was curious,
just one of those things you can pick one guy
in Neither of us really spent a lot of time
on Lebron, So I was gonna say, real quick, you're
you're the Bucks guy. Do you feel more or less

(01:46:08):
confident given everything that's happened, that they are going to
be the team that represents the East. I've gone back
and forth. I do think that their depth will help them. Um.
I do think that there are guys on their team
that are aged a little bit more that I'm wondering
if if the time frame will will have an effect
on them. I don't agree with what Michael Lee said

(01:46:29):
with Philadelphia if they haven't figured it out in three
years so with different incarnations of of players being there,
I don't know how it's randomly gonna start here. I
am concerned about Boston uh of being able to um
to to maybe put an end to the Bucks season
if that was the case. But I do like Milwaukee's
depth actually helping them. And then the old scenario erin

(01:46:52):
when you shorten the bench. I actually thought that that
would have gone against Milwaukee in a normal playoff series.
I do think that their bench helps them this time.
Rob But I am worried about the Boston team. Philadelphia
in Toronto not so much. Yeah, I picked Boston in
the preseason actually make the finals, but Kemba being a
little bit banged up does concern me. But yeah, it's
a fact. It's gonna be a fascinating uh. You know,

(01:47:12):
a couple of months from Milwaukee, you could argue they
have as much on the line as anybody. Not that
Jason Tatum wasn't getting the pub because he because he was,
But this is also could be an opportunity as well
when you're like remember when Jayson Tatum took over Orlando,
you know, like like you could have that sort of thing.
So that when they did announce that they were officially
coming back and it was gonna be early August and
all that stuff. That was one of the most exciting

(01:47:34):
things for me is as a guy that because I
covered so much college hoops and and I think even
other people they don't really tune into the NBA till
the playoffs. I think this is gonna be a good
platform for some of these younger guys, Jayson Tatum, Devin Booker,
guys like that. He's Aaron Torres, I'm Dan Buyer. This
is the Doug Otlin Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
The n b A is in the bubble and one
of their superstars is still missing. We'll have that coming

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up for you next year on Fox Sports Radio. Be
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He's Aara Torres. I'm Dan Buyer, sitting in for Doug today.
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(01:48:39):
I don't know. My wife's a little crazy, you know,
I could hear still, but she thought it was Phil.
All right, Let's get to Steve to Sega in the
Press the Press. Hello, Steve, good afternoon to you. We
have an update on Zion Williamson from the New Orleans
Pelicans today, the young star who departed the NBA A

(01:49:00):
campus in Orlando last week to quote attend to an
urgent family man. Well, he's been getting tested daily for
COVID nineteen while he's away and continues to produce negative results.
Why is this notable because if this continues for NBA protocol,
his quarantine period would be less when he returns to
the NBA bubble right and in quote fully intends to

(01:49:21):
rejoin the team. So that news from the Pelicans on
Zion today. John Hayman MLB Network with this just tweeted.
In recent minutes, MLB and the Union are re engaging
on the possibility of expanded playoffs for this season. It
has to be done before first pitch twenty five hours
from now, but there seems to be optimism. End quote.

(01:49:42):
The hope was to go from ten total playoff teams
to sixteen. What do you think, Well, I'll tell you
what I think. Major League Baseball realized that they're gonna
have a bunch of teams that are going to be
out of it in a month, and that they didn't
want those teams to continue to be flying around their regions.
So you allow more teams to get in, which makes

(01:50:04):
the games more meaningful, which makes it seem like you
need to play these games. Otherwise, when teams were gonna
be eliminated, there was no point in them playing games,
and why put them at risk. I think this is
a way to cover it up. It's a that's a
good point, because I was gonna say the opposite, which
is that I thought the whole point of the sixty
games season was to make every game meaningful. But I
think to your point, it does make more meaningful games

(01:50:26):
for longer into the season. For one season. Personally, I
have no problem with it, but that's just me. And
it's good for this year because you'd think the standings
would be closer. It's such a shortened season. As far
as the Dodgers officially saying they have a twelve year
extension without fielder Mookie Bets, they also have confirmed that
talks on this started in spring training. So for those
who are wondering, how can you have these numbers on

(01:50:47):
this contract is if there's no pandemic and no loss
of money, Well that's because the talks started in March.
That's why. This also explains why Mookie Betts, when asked
recently if you regretted down the Red Sox offer, said no,
like he knew something that we all didn't know what
he said. So it was a ten year term he
had rejected from the Red Sox and this is finish

(01:51:09):
out this year plus twelve years. On top of that
three sixty five million, including deferrals from the Dodgers. The
Minnesota Vikings, according to NFL media, are finalizing a multi
year contract extension with head coach Mike Zimmer. Also Drew
Rosenhouse famed agents is running back DeVante Freeman has joined
his squad. He hasn't joined a squad in the NFL,

(01:51:30):
but he's still a free agent and has a new agent.
Remember it was the previous agents severed ties with the
running back after Freeman turned down the Seahawks offer. Yeah,
he was a four million dollars for for one year,
I think was the offer. Um. Yeah, Mike Zimmer By
the way, he didn't realize that third most winning is
coach in Vikings history. Backing out there and pressed that

(01:51:52):
was the press behind Bud Grant and Dennis Green for
that honor. Still has a way to go to catch
Dennis Green four second. Uh, Aaron, It's been fun. We'll
have to do it again soon, anytime you guys need me.
I love filling in. I know Doug has been killing
it over these last couple of months, but always enjoy
coming in with you guys. Thank you. He needed a
break today. I'll be back tomorrow with George Rice Stirland.
Doug will be back on Friday. Thanks so much for

(01:52:15):
listening here on Fox Sports right here. We'll talk to
you soon.

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