Sam Darnold’s Pro Day & Caron Butler In Studio!

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Danny Hurley played at Seton Hall. He's reportedly been offered

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the head coaching job at both Pitt and Yukon, two
former Big East foes. Neither it's in the Big East
and neither to be kept better because of it. He
could also return to Rhode Island. In the pros and
cons list, where where does he go? What does he decide?
And how does that shift the coaching carousel in college basketball.

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David Pageant, who is the interim head coach, intermed coach,
former Root Petino player at at at Kentucky. David Pageant
was the intern head coach at Louisville, was just told
he would not be retained. Of course, most people think
that Louisville will try and get Chris mack to come
out over from Cincinnati's about an hour and a half away.

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Would Chris mc leave Cincinnati for what would would seemingly
be double his money to coach at Louisville. Remember, he
played at Xavier. He also played at Evansville, but he
transferred to Xavier. Played at Xavier. So there's a lot
a lot to that that that's interesting in college basketball coaching.
Of course, the games are tomorrow. Last night, James Harden
has what se and the Rockets do what no one

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had done in like a month, which is beat the
Portland Trailblazers. Some m v P talk, I'll at some
point the show will get to when did the m
v P of the NBA becomes such a big thing
that we care about. I thought you play to win
the game. But today was Today was the pro day

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at USC, and look at USC, You've got a pro day.
And the day started, guys with their shirts off, sun
was shining. It was beautiful, Sam Donald dropping back through
an absolute Rockets to his wide receivers. But then the
clouds came in and the rain began to fall, and

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Sam Donald still through by all accounts, p after p
after p after p just and then you look in
the stands and there's Jimmy Hasling. He's the owner of
the Cleveland Browns, and he saddled up talking to the
donald family Ma pau just In from Saint Clemente, and

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you started to think H meant to be right. The
Browns of course traded for Tyrod Taylor, which when it happened,
I told you this doesn't mean they're not going to
draft a quarterback. It means they're gonna draft a developmental quarterback. Yes,
the Browns and John Dorsey have learned from their past.

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They are almost forced to draft a quarterback at number
one overall, not just because at two, maybe at three,
definitely at you know, and then at five and at
six you got the potential for quarterback needing teams to
either trade up, which has already happened at three, or
to continue to try and trade up. Plus the Giants, look,

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they could go they never draft this high. They could
go get a quarterback. And so while they have absolutely
learned from their past, passing on Carson Wins you know
the story, and how many quarterbacks the Cleveland Browns have
passed on the past couple of years now. They passed
on Teddy Bridgewater twice, um, they passed on Derek Carr,

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they passed you know, all this. The fact is that
because of what they have done or maybe more importantly
not done in the past, they have to draft quarterback today.
This draft, on the other hand, we all take lessons
that we've learned from our previous stops. John Dorsey comes

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to the Cleveland Browns from Kansas City. In Kansas City
has had what by all accounts appears to be, you know,
until games are played, a seamless transition. Last year they drafted,
They traded up and drafted Pat Mahomes at number ten.
Mahomes set the world on fire in the preseason. They
didn't play him a down until they got to week

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seventeen and they were set the playoffs. Then they played him.
He played well. They went through the playoffs. They did
with the Chiefs always do in the playoffs, which is
get a big lead, choke it away, and then start
pointing fingers. They jettison Alex Smith and now Pat Mahomes
is their quarterback. And if what past is president president,

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then it's a good precedent for John Dorsey. Tyrod Taylor
is fine. You can actually go to the playoffs with
Tyrod Taylor if the rest of the team around you.
The issue with frankly with Carson Wentz, and we all
look at Carson Wentzi. Why didn't you draft Carson Wentz?
Because Carson Wentz wouldn't have been allowed to become Carson
Wentz had he been on those Browns teams. He got

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injured this year scrambling, he would have been gotten injured
the previous year running for dear life. And so the
plan is starting to come together. And if you're gonna
develop the draft a developmental guy, it's not gonna be
Baker Mayfield, he's kind of already developed. It's not gonna
be Josh Rosen, he's kind of already developed. It's gonna

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be one of two guys. It's gonna be Josh Allen,
who's behind, or Sam Donald who's a little bit behind,
only twenty years old, only started what a season in
three quarters? And I don't know if you guys are
a signs signs everywhere as signs sort of guy. But

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I am. And when Sam Donald's that is pro day
and Jimmy has them's there and Mom and Pod Donald
are up there and stands and MAM's knitting a sweater.
I made the last part of She's Got a Hot
cup of tea. She offers another cup of tea for jim.
Mr hass Mr Hassum comes sit next to us. Dad's

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reading the paper. I don't know how it's reading outside,
and nobody actually buys paper anymore. Somehow, there's a fireplace,
two rocking chairs, corn cob pipe. You understand, You get
the image. And oh, Jimmy has somem comes up and
says nice to Mitya, love your son, like to know
more about his upbringing. Then it starts to rain, because

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the big question is you take a kid from southern California,
how is he gonna handle the fact that Cleveland, well,
it sucks watherwise, it just does. Yes. Oh, and it's
not like they play in the garden spots of America
when they play on the road. No offense to our
affiliates in Pittsburgh and Baltimore and Cincinnati, but no one says,

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hey can't wait to see how you how you like
enjoying the weather here in Pittsburgh, Cincinnati and Baltimore. I've
told you before that Donald being from Saint Clementi makes
me want to draft him more than Rosen being from
Manhattan Beach. Saint Clementi is a little bit more real,
a little bit more blue collar, a place that people

(08:49):
are from, whereas Manhattan Beach is a place where you
moved to. And everybody's got cash, whether they're born with it,
inherited it, married into it, or made it really early
in life. Like he seems like our kind of guy.
The owner got up on his private plane, the entire

(09:10):
coaching staff came there and oh yeah, by the way,
it starts raining midway through his throwing session. I'm just
meant to beat. Just feels that way. Here's Sam Donald
after the performance. It's just a job interview to be
honest with you. And then just coming out here and

(09:31):
I thought, I, honestly, I showed them the best version
of myself. Um. I've been training really hard for this day,
and I thought, I thought I did really well, just
like how I would train for any other game, being
able to meet all these coaches. Um, I'm really just
living out my dream. Anytime, you know, days get hard, Uh,
you know, especially at the combine when you're up at
you know, four am for a drug test and you
got to stay up late in meetings. Um, you just

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think about where else would I rather be? And that's
kind of what I think about um during those moments.
I mean, come on, forget about wanting to draft a kid.
You want to marry him, don't you. He's not even
complaining about a drug test. He was like, man, you
know sometimes you gotta stand for him for a drug test.
Part of the part of the deal. You know, you
almost feel like he's gonna go putty out of support
the team. I don't know if you believe in meant

(10:16):
to be. I don't know if you believe in signs,
signs everywhere signs. But I sure as I'll do and
rain midway through Sam Donald's pro day, when the owner
of the Cleveland Browns who just so happened to own
the number one pick, and the kid answers every question
the right way and everyone knows he needs time to develop.

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He's okay sitting for a season because you got Tyrod Taylor.
If that in a sign or a series of them,
I don't know what is. And with the first pick
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on the weekends, and Fox Sports Trading. You canna join
us next hour in studio for two segments. Talk a
little college Whoop, Doug a little pro Whoop. He covers
him both. Let's welcome to Bucky Brooks, another former player
from an NFL player, a guy who covers the league
for the NFL Network. He joins us on the Doug
Gottlip showing Bucky, I'm wondering what your impressions. I take

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it you're at the prod at USC's Pro Day. No,
we covered it from studios so we had a split crew,
so I did watch it from the network seat. Though,
what do you think? I mean? I thought it was
pretty solid, about as good as it can get considering
the weather conditions. Um, the first time we had a
chance to see Donald just kind of do the polish
up throw thing in his T shirt and shorts, and

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I thought he looked pretty good. Obviously he was hindered
by his receivers not necessarily being able to catch the
ball in the rain, but in terms of his footwork,
his delivery, his accuracy, he was all on point. Sam
Donald is exactly what we thought he would be as
an athlete, outstanding athlete, a gun slander. He has enough
on town to make all the throws that you want
to see. The big thing for Sam will be at

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the next level. Can he make good decisions and take
care of the ball because he's clutching all those other
things that you look for the position. UM, remind me
we didn't Deshaun Watson have issues with throwing interceptions. Maybe
not not as much losing the football as Sam Donald did,
but didn't he have issues his final year at Clemson
and throwing interceptions before we won the national championship. Oh

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he did. He had a lot of issues, and you
remember we took him to task for those issues. I
think the one thing that we do doing this says
leading up to the draft, we nitpick and we poked
holes in every good prospect. And so the main thing
that you look at when you're looking at Sam, all
the positive things, the gun slinger, the clutch uh factor
in terms of being able to bring his team back,

(14:32):
and playing the way that he did played, all those
things are positive. The only negative that you really could
point to is his inability to consistently take care of
the ball this season. You worry is it going to
be something that just is a part of his DNA.
We've seen successful quarterbacks who have turned the ball over
a lot, breath fall and others. However, you're just trying
to figure out is this something that we can be

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corrected or is just one of the things that if
we bring them in, we're going to have to coach
around the fact that he's going to give the ball
to the other team once or twice again. Bucky Brooks
joining us on the Doug Gotli Show on Fox Sports Radio. UM,
I felt like when they went and got Tyrod Taylor
that ment whoever they were gonna draft was gonna be
more of a belt mental guy that cuts Josh Rosen

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out of the mix. Correct. Uh, And I mean he
cut him out a custom the nick. I just don't
think he maybe necessarily the guy. I think today was
kind of them revealing their hand. If this is a
poker game, They kind of let everyone know what they
had the owners in the building. Uh, you had every
high level executive for the Browns in attendance. The Cleveland

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Browns are going to take Sam Donald. He is. They're
sick the girls to what they're doing with Tyrod Taylor.
Sam Donald's going to be the guy. But I think
what's interesting about the situation that he steps to in
Cleveland it could be very very similar to what Carson
Palmer stepped into in Cincinnati. John Kitten and Carson Palmer's
rookie year took every snap the entire season and started

(15:58):
sixteen games. Carson Palmer took over as a sophomore in
the league and then became their franchise quarterback. For Sam Donald,
he could get an opportunity to really sit learn, grow
on the side, kind of learn how to become the
franchise quarterback before taking over the range from Tyrod Taylor.
That should be a good thing for him and a
good thing for us career, because we would like to

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think in a year the Browns would have a better
team around him than what they currently have at this moment.
What do you think the Giants do it too? Man?
I think that the good pressure is all on the
Giants in terms of what they do. I think the
Giants are going to take someone big. I think They're
either going to take a guarden quintin Nelson, or they
may even take Bradley Chubb as much as I want

(16:40):
them to take see Juan Barkley to make that offense
more dynamic. I think you have to understand the guy
who's making decision gave gentleman. He believes in big guys.
He talks about the hog Molly's. I can see the
Giants even taking a garden Quence when Nelson, which is
a typical for taking a position player dead high, particularly
inside player, for taking a pass rusher, because when the

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Johnson won their Super Bowls, they've always had a dominant
pass rush going all the way back to the days
of the team. Okay, so now the Jets trade up
to three. Jets have Teddy Bridgewater, Jets have Josh McCown.
Jets obviously can also put themselves in that, Hey, we'll
draft the developmental guy and if, like Carson Wentz, he
over cheese and he's ready early, maybe we could trade

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a Teddy Bridgewater if he proves to be healthy. What
did the Jets do? You think? Just got a position
at three to put themselves in a situation to take
a quarterback. You have to do that. They had to
be court. They had to be comfortable with any of
the top three quarterbacks that they had on their board.
Now on the outside, I would say those three quarterbacks
would be Sam Donald, Josh Rosen, and when you have

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to figure out that Josh Allen the Baker Mayfield alto.
It comes down to my estimation, between Josh Allen and
Bacon Mayfield, what is the gay that they're most comfortable with?
If you look at their previous history h Mcamah and
those guys took Christian Hackenburg and in a good quarterback
come from Penn State, who's big. When you look at
Josh Allen, he is more like Hackenburg than Baker Mayfield. Typically,

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when you take something that doesn't go your weight, you
go opposite. So maybe Baker Mayfield is a guy that
they're looking for to be the face of the franchise.
Do you think Baker Mayfield is good to be a
face of so much franchise? I don't think Baker Mayfield
in most drafts is worthy of being a top five pick. However,
we have this fascination with quarterbacks where we overvalue him,
we jump up, we take them, and we we bo

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passed some really good players. I will say this about
Baker Mayfield. I think Baker Mayfield can be a really
good player if the supporting caster around him is really good,
much like the cast that he had at Oklahoma that
was full of pros, he can drive that car to
the winner circle. But if you're taking Baker Mayfield and
you're thinking that heat single handedly can elevate your franchise,

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I think he's gonna be a little disappointed. I see
him a little more like case Keenum than a Drew
Brees Russel Wilson type. But we'll see. Maybe fools me wrong.
I you know, I haven't watched Julie as much film.
I don't have nearly the football background. That's exactly what
I thought, I mean, like everyone wants him to be
Russell Wilson and he's not man'zell. He's more case keenum

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and it's exact same offense as case keenum Um. I
kind of kind of feel like we're chasing that ghost
of Drew Brees and Russell Wilson too often. Oh, we
are chasing that. And if you really come down and
you think about it, like the draft of the bet catch,
like typically the guys that are going in the first round,
they check up all the boxes in certain areas, whether
it's prototypical traits as outstanding production. There's some kind of

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blue chip of blue quality that system apart from the rest.
When I look at Baker Mayfield, what is his elite quality?
What is the thing that separation from others? Yeah? I
like the story is a two time walk on. Yeah,
like the fightiness and the leadership and the emotional stuff.
When it comes down to breaking down his game, what
is it. He's not athletic like Wilsell Wilson. He's accurate,

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but when you really dig into the U throws and
stuff that he makes it Oklahoma, it makes a lot
of throws that are Atalanta sty was the right near
the line of scrimmage. So the actually there is a
little inflated by the system that he plays in. So
if we don't have special qualities of the six quarterback,
it is hard to exist in this league. And so
for me when I say case Keenum, there's really a

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confident because you saw what case Keenum did at Minnesota
when he had a great supporting cast Bacon Mayfield. So
hopefully he goes a little later so he has a
cast that will allow him to do what he's always
done at Oklahoma, Bucky Brooks, it's moved the sticks. As
the podcast he and Daniel Jeremiah Uh do together. Of course,
he was in the studio today for USC's pro day
as Sam Donald through well it started raining. I said,

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it was a sign. He's like sign or no sign,
that's where he's going. Uh. We started, we started discussing
all these other quarterbacks. What about Josh Allen. He's sitting
out there. He checked so many box in terms of
size and arm strength. Where are you on Josh Allen.
I'm a little lower on Josh Allen than most people like.
Because here's the thing, Doug. At some point, if we

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think about it, if you're a dominant player at every vel.
Did high school be a college and in the pros?
At some point I should see some level of dominance
in the game. When I look at Josh Allen and
I think of all the prototypical traits, six five thirty pounds,
the strongest on that we've ever seen. But yet when
I look at him play in big games, when he

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played against big power five schools, he does one touchdown,
eight interceptions. So then all of the excuse makes him
You're like, well, he didn't have a supporting cast, he
didn't do this, he didn't do that. Well, when you're
drafting at the top, they dude, this in the top five,
he's supposed to make people better, So I need evidence
to see that he is going to elevate a franchise

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as a top tick. We can talk about him like, yeah,
he developmental, Well, why am I drafting someone that's developmental?
Dad high? At some point I need to have some
visual evidence that he is that guy outside of just
being a highway speech specimen. And then he got Lamar Jackson,
who there's a lot of a lot of talk about him,
and since the draft combine, I was told he struggled

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a lot of the white board but but he's he
can be. It's a it's a polarizing thing because he's
so crazy athletic that when Bill Polan said, like, maybe
you switch positions didn't work out for anybody at a
different position, where are you and Lamar Jackson. Yeah, that's
the thing, Like, like, here's the thing. And so we'll
go back just to the conversation that I had about
Josh Allen. The one thing that I can say about

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Lamar Jackson. You can talk about this completion presentage, which
is very similar to Josh Allen, but it's always improved
each season. We can talk about, Oh, I don't know
about his white board stuff, but in games I've seen
him dominate big time competition NBA TC, Fluorida State twice,
Clempson when he played head to hit against Deshaun Watson.
There are enough games where I've seen him be a
dominant player the team that you have to figure out

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with Lamar Jackson, where is he when it comes to
his football aptitude? What can he do and what can
you do to help him? Much like we saw Bill
O'Brien put Deshaun Watson in a offense that allowed him
to elevate the team. Is there an offensive coordinator in
the league that is willing to do the same for
Lamar Jackson. When I talked about him being the most

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electrifying athlete that I've seen played the position, that's not
being disrespectful to Michael Vick. That's just what it is.
Who wants to take on the challenge of putting that
down in the situation where you can win games at quarterback?
That's what remains to be seen. I think he's the
first round talent, but he may go in the second round,
just because all of the stuff that he's done leading
up to this point has not necessarily been things get

(23:25):
Ho would advise him to do in terms of give
a quarterback coach spending time learning pro offenses and the like.
We'll see how much that hurts Hione after Yeah, and
and even his agent, you know, I think his mom
is handling a lot of stuff instead of having more
traditional agents who can help shield him from some of
the stuff that maybe he wasn't expecting. Is that fair?
Your dad is absolutely free, and it may be one
of the things that he regrets down the line. There's

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a reason why sometimes coming in you need to have
representation because it's your first time going through the process,
and if no one in your family is going through
the process, they can't really give you good advice on
how to navigate through some of these it false. And
so for a guy like Lamar Jackson, who already was
a polarizing prospect, he needed someone who could make sure
that they put him in the right situation to look

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his best when he needed to be interviewed and all
those other things. Those things haven't happened. And sometimes, man,
you only give one shout at the apple in terms
of making that first impression because some people may have
already been kind of on the sense in terms of
how they thought about him as a quarterback. If he
didn't go in an interview, well, that crushes him and
there's no coming back from that when it comes to draft.
That great stuff. That's Bucky Brooks. Listened to the Move

(24:33):
the Sticks podcast. Check him out in the NFL Network. Bucky,
thanks so much for joining us on Fox Sports Radio.
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(24:59):
bunch of NFL st for you after you talked to uh,
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just a sex of college basketball New Sweet sixteen. Of course, tomorrow,
Kansas State will be taking on Kentucky. K State forward
Dean Wade could come off the bench for the Wildcats
and their Sweet sixth team match up with Kentucky. Hasn't
played in the n c Double A Tournament because of
a stress fracture in his foot. And yes, David Patchett

(25:20):
out after one season. That's the head coach at Louisville.
I thought it was a stress reaction. I thought, I
mean I again, Chris reacts, okay, only because Bruce Weber
had said it's not a stress faction when he was
on the on the show. But Bruce Webber is a liar. No,
I'm just kidding, just lit uh, Bruce Weber a liar

(25:41):
show Fox Sports Radio. He may play tomorrow, how about that.
Let's just settle on that A minute restriction. He won't.
He wouldn't start if you would if he was to
go tomorrow in that game against Kentucky. So that's uh,
that's the That's at least the latest on Wade and
David Patchett. Yes, done it Louisville after one season. Not

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much of a surprise. Some sadness to pass along in
the NBA. Cavalier's Kyle Cover is gonna miss tonight's game
against the Raptors following the death of his younger brother, Kirk,
who was just twenty seven years old. Kirk played collegiately
at Missouri Kansas City for four years, graduated in But
Kyle Korver is gonna miss tonight's game because of the
death of his brother. National second baseman Daniel Murphy won't

(26:23):
be ready for the start of the season is he
continues to recover from Mike curl Fratcher surgery last October.
And Doug I think we have a catch rule. We'll
find out next week if it's improved by the NFL.
But the Competition Committee saying the catch needs light, receiver
needs control of the football to feet down and a
body or a body part and a football move. So
that could be a third step or he reached for
the goal line like Jesse Jamesden of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

(26:45):
But that's going to be the criteria to determine what
is a catch in the National Football League. So isn't
this like kind of act to the future anything, going
back to how we always used to see it? Yeah? Yeah,
I think so. That's seems pretty it was. There were
things I think of the rule books though, in the
Calvin Johnson and the Birt Emmanuel that maybe we didn't know,

(27:08):
you know, that that were there that maybe the only
you know, like what obviously you're watching a baseball game,
You're like, I had no idea what that rule was.
That could have been the thing with the catch. But
this seems to simplify it at least. Okay, let's go back.
There's a previous story you had there. I'm trying to
think which one it was. That's the case one we did.
Uh Kyle Korver, what did How did his brother get sick?

(27:30):
I saw that story last night and I saw it
on Twitter, and I was just so sad. You know,
the Corvers, He's got several brothers. They've all kind of
played collegianately. Diffrom Pella Iowa, just like Salt of the
Earth people an he worked on like he just suddenly
got sick last week. I read, Yeah, that's that's the
only those are the only details that I had read
about Kurt Korver. But it was just a sudden illness

(27:54):
that he came down with about a week ago. That's
pretty much the worst thing I've ever heard. That's that's
like next to like a baby getting sick or a
little kid getting sick. Like a healthy adult male who
is an athlete and has their whole life ahead of them,
all of a sudden they're sick and the next week
they die like that? What how does that still happen?
My my, my heart goes out to that family. That's

(28:14):
just awful, awful. All Right, I'll try and keep it
talking about sports, Doug Otlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. I
want to discuss this this deal, the decision that Danny
Hurley has, and maybe more interesting, the hubbub that came

(28:35):
out earlier today, which is at least on some level,
been quieted by a statement from Sean Miller, the head
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(28:56):
So Pittsburgh is open. And if you're not old enough, No.
Sean Miller played at Pittsburgh. Danny Hurley was a brother
of Bobby Hurley. Danny played at Seaton Hall. Now, um,
there's another there's uh, there are other coaching possibilities at Pittsburgh.
Kevin Willard, once upon a time was the starting point

(29:19):
guard at pitt when his dad was a coach at
pitt I actually played against them that and apparently he
had spoken to Pittsburgh and is as somewhere on the
list and so and I found that to be weird.
And here's why. Kevin Willard actually had one additional year
of eligibility. He started his career in Western Kentucky playing
for his dad for the Hilltoppers. His dad got the

(29:41):
Pittsburgh job. He played for them for I think a year,
but by the end of that year there was another
point guard who was younger named Fontigo Cummings. I think
it was the second round draftic ultimately NBA draft that
Vontigo Cummings and Mark Blunt. When he first got there,
they had Jerry Ice McCullough. Really they had some good
talent at Pittsburgh, but his his final year playing college basketball, UM,

(30:08):
pitt pitt wasn't good and they were booed lustily, and
he was. He was booed every time he came on
the floor, be as he's a coach's son. And so
he actually had an additional year of eligibility left that
he said, ah, I don't want to do it, went
and started working for Rick Pottino, but then with the
Boston Celtics. That's how he began his coaching career. Um

(30:31):
So I find that when like, look, bygones are bygones,
but you know, you give up your last year of
eligibility because you disliked the fan base or how they
treat you so much, I find that hardly so Danny
Hurley appears to be their main candidate. That Danny played
at Seton Hall. He also he didn't get booed by

(30:53):
the home fans. But I mean, we're a notre dame.
Everybody would chant Bobby's better, where's your brother? You know,
things like that, he's the little brother already. But Danny
has kind of made he's made away from himself by himself.
He went to the high school coach at St. Ben's,
I believe in uh in In in New Jersey, where

(31:15):
his dad's a Hall of Fame coach, and then he
went to Wagner and then from Wagner Rhode Island, and
now he's taking them, you know, to the tournament. The
last couple of years. He's a hot candidate. So he
has the choice between Yukon's went four national titles Pittsburgh
and staying at Rhode Island. And he's doing the old,
the old, the old pros and cons thing right right

(31:38):
downald list pros cons, pros for Pittsburgh probably the most
money cons. They didn't win a game in the a
c C and the a CEC is really really hard,
and pit it's kind of a weird fit in the
a SEC. So there was a story out earlier today
in which apparently the athletic director at Pittsburgh had reached

(31:58):
out to On Miller, and it got to be such
there was such discussion over it that Sean Miller actually
had to release a a statement saying he you know,
he wishes Pittsburgh the best, but he was, but he
is not a candidate for that job. Like that's weird, right,

(32:22):
Like that you actually have to release a statement. And
part of it comes from the report that Shan Miller
had actually spoken to Pittsburgh's athletic director. Her name is
Heather Like, and so there are some that believe the
story that she would speak to Sean Miller. Considering the

(32:44):
active FBI and n c A investigation that we all
assume the microscope, Shan Miller is under no way I
would even talk to him. There are some that believe, well,
the only reason Shan Miller is not going because he's
too hot, he's toxic. He really wants the job. He
must have reached out. I think part of it is

(33:05):
there's a lot of people who don't understand how an
athletic director is supposed to do their jobs. If you're
gonna take over, if you're gonna be the athletic director
of Pittsburgh and you're gonna try and find out who
can win at this job, well, the people we need
to talk to are former players, former coaches, people who

(33:28):
have been at pitt when pitt has been successful. People
who know the landscape, people who know the local talent.
I'm not sure if you're aware, but Sean Miller's dad,
Archie Miller's dad legendary coach in western Pennsylvania. He played
at pitt It's not a question of if it's why
she takes so long to call Sean Miller once she

(33:50):
relieved Kevin Stallings of the job. Just calling somebody is
not offering them the job, is actually doing your job. Well,
we have this weird thing, and part of it is
guys in the media, maybe they haven't ever been reached
out to by a head hunter, maybe they don't really

(34:12):
know how the sport works. But the second a job
comes open, what you do is And as an accolic director,
you've heard from your boosters, and your boosters like, go
get the best coach that money can buy, go higher,
and you know dream candidates that have no chance of
getting So then you have to talk to people who
understand the reality of it. Who can I get, who fits?

(34:33):
How do we win here? How do we maintain how
do we maintain consistency? If I've had their likes, I
hope she talked to Ben Hellan I hope she talked
to Jamie Dixon. I hope she talked to Sean Miller.
Otherwise not doing her job, and that doesn't mean that
she's offering them the job. Just like men and women
are allowed to talk and not hit on each other, right,

(34:57):
Like this is a This is a tough thing for dudes.
Like just because she's smiling doesn't mean she wants you.
Just because an athletic director of Pittsburgh is calling Sean
Miller doesn't mean she wants to hire Sean Miller. I mean, honestly,
this is the biggest issue with guys and the idea

(35:20):
of having homosexual teammates in the locker room. Just because
he's homosexual and he's a nice guy in the locker
room doesn't mean he wants to see you naked. Sorry,
I hate to be that guy there. Not into everybody,
just like you're not into every girl. Yeah, it is
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(36:31):
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(37:23):
very near future. Uh. Well, Mano says that then it
must be real fake news. But it's fake. Huh, it
is fake. As he says, right now, it's best for
the team to think that Kawhi Leonard won't come back
this season from his quad injury. Heading it doesn't do
the team any good to think that Leonard will be
returning this season, saying they got their hopes up last week.

(37:45):
Now it's just best if they think they're not going
to have them at all. Well, you do get to
a point to which you're like, hey, dude, you gotta
you know, you gotta walk in there like Jimmy Chip
would and say it's time for me to start playing ball.
And that has not taken place yet. Real news are
fake news, Doug. Some NFL West Coast teams are joining
forces asking the NFL to limit the amounts of one
o'clock Eastern time kickoffs, the kickoffs that they have to

(38:05):
play in a season. That sounds like real news and
they're spectacular. Yeah. The MMQB dot comps is the Chargers, Niners,
and Cardinals are proposing the rule that I would have
them or West Coast teams, even Mountain teams playing no
more than three one o'clock Eastern time kicks in a season.
I'm all for, honestly, with our our TV partners at Fox,

(38:27):
not having those Thursday games in the West West Coast either.
I mean, like, look, you just it's a Thursday, hey boss, listen,
I gotta I gotta take off here, Like why I
gotta go see it Thursday night football game. I gotta
go see a Chargers game in Carson. You gotta leave
it ten to get there as well. I mean, it
looks it look look, it looks bad. And then now

(38:50):
does it look bad? But then they have uh it
looks bad? And then you have empty seats, and you're like,
why is why is he Francisco finding four Niners seats empty? Like, hey,
their stadiums in San Jose. You're in San Francisco or Oakland.
It takes you over an hour to get there. Forget
about being ridiculous the expensive, It just doesn't fit your schedule.

(39:12):
I think it looks bad. I'm all for less one
o'clock starts and no Thursday night or Monday night games.
Either real news or fake news the New York Jets
tried to trade up to the first overall pick before
doing their deal with the Colts last weekend. They're real
and they're spectacular. Yeah. Reports saying that the Jets did
make a call to the Cleveland Browns about number one.

(39:34):
Remember John Dorsey, the Bronze GM said that they were
open for business, but apparently the business closed quickly, so
the Jets ended up moving on to the Indianapolis Colts.
We'll talk about this at the top of the hour.
It's the Jets being the Jets. Real news are fake news, Doug.
The Raiders will have Marshawn Lynch back after the running
back got a bump in salary to go back to
the Sylva did not get a bump in salaries. That's

(39:55):
fake news. Yeah. It took a five hundred thousand dollar
pay cut to clinics of the NFL Network, but will
play next season. For This is a mistake from John Gruden.
This is not knowing he and Derek Carr do not
get along. Derek Carr does not like him. They do
not get along. This is he has a divisive force
in that locker room. Mark it down. This is a
mistake for the Raiders. Finally, Doug, real news are fake news,

(40:17):
free age in defensive lineman and Dominican Sue has canceled
who scheduled meeting with the Raiders today. That's fake news.
They're real and they're spectacular. Reportedly was set to meet
with the Silver and Black, but is now canceled that
meeting After a meeting with the Rams yesterday, he stayed
back in Los Angeles and now the NFL Network saying
that the Rams, Saints, and Titans seemed to be the

(40:39):
final three right now for Sue's services. It would be
fascinating to see the Rams have a key to leave
and Dominican Sue and Marcus Peters the land of misfit
toys and that defense. I think Wade could keep together,
but I don't know it that. That's gonna be interesting
to watch this game time on the Duck Gottlieb Show.

(41:05):
How long do baseball season starts? Like? A week? Right?
I think mar opening Day Forgers Marsh for the Dodgers,
which is all that really matters, eight days away, eight
days away from opening day. I love postseason baseball, I do,
and I really care, I really care about Opening Day.

(41:27):
Um My son hit a hit a home run last night.
It was inside the parker. Guy hit a hit a
line drive over the right fielder and it kind of
occurred around and it went past the right fielder. He
was it was probably was a triple with an air,
but we'll give him a home run. I love baseball.
Struggle to get fired up for opening day. NFL Draft

(41:49):
is a month away, but the Jets are. The Jets
will explain next What up? Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio,
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(42:11):
back some other day. Um I. I have this expression
we used quite often. It goes like this, don't shop hungry, right,
don't shop hungry? What happens when you shop hungry? Man?
You go buy some stuff, you get back and you're
looking like the hell. You know, even hunger makes you

(42:36):
do all kinds of things. You get angry, you start
lashing down at people, or you go to a restaurant
when you're like just starved, you order something like, man,
that was great. You go back order the same meal
like when one great. I was just really hungry last time.
But shopping hungry. I think it's it's just a bad practice,
bad business. So when you shop hungry, everything looks good

(42:57):
and you're under pressure to that sounds good, and that
sounds good, You're like, you're just better off making a
list and having a plan. And I do think there
are you know We've told you before, there are three
types of people in this world. You see a gruesome injury,
you either don't want to see it once, you want
to see it once to catalog it, or you can't

(43:17):
help but watch it over and over and over again.
I think it's the same thing with chopping the grocery store. Right.
There are people that that never go. I cannot go.
I hate it, I don't I don't do it. Somebody
else in my house does it. There are people that
only go shopping get on the list. And there are
people that they just go and every time they just
go pick up stuff and they figured out when they
get home rambus, which one are you? I figured out

(43:39):
when I get home music? Which one are you? Gotta
go with the list, Gotta go to the list, Gotta
go to list, gotta be prayer prepared, the art of preparredness.
It feels like Mike mccagnet and the Jets are shopping hungry.
Everyone thought the Jets were going to purge their gentle manager,
purge their head coach after they were going to tank

(43:59):
this path season. Right Like, when you look at the Jets,
rosh like, dude outside of the Browns don't know how
they could how they could not finish in last place,
and they were kind of surprising. They end up having
the sixth pick in the draft, which of course subsequently
they moved up to the third pick in the draft.
And think about it, they gave up three second round

(44:21):
picks to this year one next year to move up
three spots in the draft to take a quarterback. Now,
maybe just maybe they know or knew before today that
the the Browns were going to draft Sam Donald. It

(44:41):
feels like Sam Donald's the guy just feels that way,
doesn't doesn't it. We discussed signs at the start of
the first hour, Ramers, do you believe her in signs?
Do you believe like when you see stuffing like oh
it just yes, most definitely and music, I'm guessing you
don't believe in signs. That's a bunch of hullabalue. Not
not usually Doug usually more in the reality of things

(45:03):
as opposed to the gut feeling of it. Yeah, but
I'm not even some time my gut feeling and sometimes
the reality of it is there are all these signs
that are pointing to something, and maybe it's a little
bit of confirmation bias, but there is sometimes Like you
make a decision, they're like, don't know if I made
the right decision, Like, Yep, that was the right decision.
Fair enough, I traditionally don't view it that way, but

(45:25):
I see where you're coming from. No, so do you
think it was a signed today that Sam Donald has
a pro day and it just so happens to start
raining when Cleveland is there watching him. And one big
question about Cleveland is can you play in the weather?
I think it seems as though there maybe one thing
finally going in the favor of the Browns after all
these years. Fair enough, um, But unless they have incredible foresight,

(45:51):
unless they have a mole in the Browns organization and
in the Giants organization. Remember they're not picking for first.
I mean, this is a group. Whatever group is making
the decision with the Jets, it's the same one that
drafted them a quarterback at a Penn State who was

(46:12):
wildly erratic, and two years in, no one thinks he
has a shot to be the start of this year.
So much so they just signed two other quarterbacks. It's
one of those what in the hell are they doing now?
Maybe just maybe they think they're the Philadelphia Eagles, because
if you remember, two years ago, the Philadelphi Eagles did

(46:34):
the exact same thing. Do you guys remember, Okay, two
years ago the Eagles changed coaching staffs and Doug Peterson
was named a head coach. Doug Peterson brought with him,
um uh, what's the shape? What's the little quarterback from

(46:57):
the backup in Kansas City was the backup and Chase
the Chase Daniel. Yes, I I got lost in his name.
Chase Daniel, missour form Missouri quarterback. Chase Daniel was a
Doug Peterson guy. He was Doug Peterson's back up with
the with the Chiefs. When Doug Peterson came over, he
brought him with him to be the backup. Now he's
a backup. I'm gonna stay with the Bears, right did?
He just signed with the Bears. So they had Chase

(47:21):
Daniel and remember they resigned Sam Bradford to like a
thirteen million dollar a year deal for two years. People like,
what are they doing? Then they traded up and drafted
Carson Wentz and they just so happened to luck into
the fact that the Vikings lost Teddy Bridgewater before they
ever played a game, and so they got a first

(47:42):
round draft pick for Sam Bradford and the rest, as
they say, is history. Right, here's the problem. One, the
Jets are depending on good luck. How often is that
like it happened especially to the Jets. And Two, they
had a chance to kind of replenish themselves with a
bunch of second round picks. Now they can't, so they're

(48:03):
leaving it to chance. I mean, it's crazy mccagnet parted
with those precious draft capital. That's Minishe Metta from the
New York Daily News said, two second round picks this year,
thirty seven second round picks. It's about at shot whether
or not they're gonna be starters. The Jets overpaid and

(48:29):
now they need some divine intervention. Now they need a
little bit of luck. And this from mccagnon, who his
previous quarterback selection was Christian Hackenburgh. That does not bode
well for the Jets. But the biggest thing is whoever
they think they want to have as their starting quarterback,

(48:50):
they don't know if he'll be there because they didn't
trade up for the number one pick, that didn't trade
up for the number two pick. They traded up for
the number three pick. In the best case scenario for
the Jets, they get their second best option. And when

(49:10):
you're struggling to make a decision to begin with, and
you feel pressure to get a quarterback even though you
already have too relatively fairly competent guys, and you shed
away any sort of draft pick help in the second round,
I mean like, look, they could have used that first
round draft pick and they could have gotten additional picks,
and they could have loaded up and said, hey, look

(49:32):
six isn't good enough for us, We'll draft a guy
later on. In the meantime, we'll roll with the fact
that we have to fairly competent starting quarterbacks were at
a talent deficit. It feels to me like a plan
that is uh flawed, to say the least, really really flawed.

(49:53):
Like John Dorsey's going, hey, you know what, we got
a bunch of draft picks, but we don't have to.
We can still trade away draft picks. We can still
keep loading up, but let's trade away some of these picks.
Let's get some guys that can help us right now.
Let's trade for a quarterback that can start in meantime.
I'm gonna sit a guy for a year, much like
we just did in Kansas City. You're like, you know what,

(50:14):
It's not a terrible plan, especially considering the Cleveland Brown's
offensive line lost their Hall of Fame left tackle. No
matter what you think, they're gonna look like. You've got
no idea without their leader, without their sergeant holka Um,
without Joe Um, Joe Thomas coming back. It feels like

(50:37):
I can't blom saying this. Cleveland's better run than the Jets.
I just it feels like. Now it doesn't mean it's
gonna work out that way, but man, and let's say
they go and get a Josh Rosen who everybody thinks
it's ready to play. You got these other two, got

(50:58):
Josh mc county will be a good back. People be fine,
no matter what you do. I'll beat a little bit overpaid,
Like what do you do with Teddy Bridgewater? Hm? Weird plan?
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(51:40):
Try Young coming out, DeAndre Ayton coming out? Would he
take Aton or badly? Talk a little college hoops, and
then we'll turn to the NBA. Harden puts on a show.
Is he the m v P? Did we care about
m vps when he played? Weird? And is there any
reason to believe that would be somebody other than the
can has in the Warriors in the NBA Finals. All

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Tough shoes obviously covers the NBA. For the folks at Turner,
that's the players only Tuesday night, it was last night's Yeah,
Tuesday night. I was watching Boston last night. Were you
really man? That finished? Was crazy? And then you hopped
on hopped on the last flight out of what? First flight?
First thing this morning, first thing smoking, All right, I

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want to talk to you about I want to I
want to talk to you about the game last night.
But anyway you can so you can check him out
on on Turner and then listen to him here on
Fox Sports Radio. Let's let's talk about the thunder before
we get to the ending of that game. Um, Like, look,
I know there's been some some downs. I know Paul
George sends some great things around the year, but they're
about where we thought they would be and then only

(54:07):
where you thought they'd be, like the fourth seed in
the West. But this is with Kauai out most of
the year. This is with the Warriors having all kinds
of injuries and just being disinterested, like kind of interesting.
I can't figure out whether they've underachieved, overachieved, or rightfully achieved.
They're they're exactly where you know me personally where I
thought they would be, still trying to struggle to find

(54:29):
their identity. But at the same time, I think Russell
Westbrook has done an amazing job of balancing the scoring,
the rebounding, and the dominance of playing with two superstars
still in Paul George and Carmelo Anthony. Is Carmelo Anthony
still a superstar? Yeah, he's still a star in his league.
Like he's more than capable. And the thing that's, you know, interesting,

(54:52):
is that he's not being featured no longer, and is
it's necessary because you have Paul George and Russell playing
at an amazing pace, So you know, he needs to
be that guy that needs to play, you know, somewhat
more with that second unit where he can massage the
ball and do his things. So he needs to be
out there with Grant Felton and he can be featured

(55:14):
and he's still capable of doing certain things. I mean,
he averaged twenty plus points last season. He's still averaging
I think sixteen and a half plus right now, and
he's playing with you know, Russell Westbrook, majority of them
men and Steven Adams and Paul George, and as it
lines out now, they would be on a collision course
with the Houston Rockets. Like I think of of all
the kind of genius things, and I'm not sure how

(55:35):
intentional unintentional I want to talk about the Warriors, but
the idea that the Warriors wouldn't have to see the
Thunder and unless the Thunder go through the Rockets, I
think would be perfect for that team. Because the Thunder
a team that have beating them Auber Thunder, a team
that can play big when they play small and kind
of rough them up that listen, the Thunder is a
scary team if they're clicking on all cylinders. But you know,

(55:55):
coach Donovan has said it when we sat down last night,
he has said, you know, most of they want to
be playing good defensively, offensively. You know you've got players
that can win you a series. You got Paul George,
who was a superstar, never been a number two guys,
been the number one guy Indiana his whole career. You
know he can carry you through a series. We know
Russell westbrooks Brook can carry you through a series. Carmelo

(56:17):
Anthony is more than capable of having those moments, those
vintage moments, and carrying you through a series. And that's scary.
You've got three guys that can carry you through a series.
And then Houston, they're playing amazingly well and the one
thing that benefens to them is that they have a
ton of confidence. And Chris Paul's playing amazingly Uh, he's healthy.

(56:38):
James Harden is the m v P second and none.
This is his year. He's playing exceptionally well. So it's
gonna be interesting to see what hot shakes up in
the Western Conference when you were playing. Was there in season?
It feels like this is very, very recent, and some
of it is kind of ESPN doubling down and going
all in on the NBA as opposed to in previous years.

(56:59):
It wasn't. It's it's kind of peaked in popularity the
last four or five years. I don't remember there being
this much season long discussion of the m v P.
You play in the league for a decade. What was
it like this when you play? I think it was
more so so on the back of my career. You
had Steph Curry that had to just the out of
body performance season where he was just clicking on all cylinders,

(57:20):
making everything and Lebron James is always in the discussion.
So like over the last three or four years, you
have seen the discussion starting earlier as the first quarter
of the season, where you're talking about the Greek freak,
You're talking about James Harden immediately because he's playing extremely well.
You're talking about Dame Lillard now in the back end
of the season, and you're still talking about your fifth team.

(57:41):
What Lebron has been capable of doing. You know, his
his performance has been just amazing, averaging the triple double
since All Star break. Uh, still shooting the ball amazingly well,
adding dementias to his game. But you know, this season
in particular, I think it's hard to say that James
Harden is not the m v P. Throw a name
out there you haven't mentioned. It is Anthony Davis. I mean,

(58:02):
Anthony Davis has led the league in scoring in the
second half of the year since the All Start break,
and his team is playing better than this without DeMarcus Cousins.
And look, I'm with you. I think that I think
the Harden is gonna win it. Not just because of
his performances this year, but you could have seen him
win it to out the last three years anyway, right,
and his team is gonna finish with the best record

(58:23):
likely in in the NBA. So I'm with you whether
he's gonna win it, but how close should it actually be?
With him and Anthony Davis? You know what? I feel like,
it's James Harden and then this. Now you've got Lebron, James,
Anthony Davis, and uh, Damon Lillard. That's the next wave,
that's the next conversation. I think we take Lebron for
granted because he's been doing this consistently for so long. Uh,

(58:46):
seeing the rise of Anthony Davis and the Pelicans the
reasertaence of you know, playing winning basketball and having a
shot to be in the playoffs. It seems like they're
gonna make it this season in spite of losing a
guy like Boogie. You know, that was something that was devastating,
but they all rallied around him, you know, they really did,
and they're doing it because of him. You know, they're like, look,

(59:09):
you know, we're playing inspired basketball because of you. And
then Dame Lillard. Just I don't think that anyone will
question that he's a star or superstar again in this league.
You know a guy that had been you know, um
over overlooked for so long. He's a perennial All Star,
one of one of the best young spots in this
game of basketball. Karn Butler joining us in the Doug

(59:30):
Out Lip Show. You won NBA championship, But I think
people remember you're hurt during the NBA Championship, right, and
that was supposed to be like a death death blow
because of your leadership on the floor. But there was
something special, Like you look at Dirk's career, as good
as it's been been, he's had like nine or ten
first round exits in his career. That year was different.

(59:50):
That year was special. Can you can you make any
comparisons as obviously, aside from the injury to you, the
that and the Houston year to which Houston's a team.
D'antoni's lost early, James Harden's lost early, Chris Paul his
teams have lost early because of injury to everything kind
of coming together and fitting right at the right time.

(01:00:10):
Golden States heard some of these things and being a
dream year for the Rockets. Listen, I think that. You know,
timing is everything, and I think camaraderie and and having
momentum is key. You don't want to fiz out too
early and you don't want to do it too soon. So,
like you look at what Houston is doing, and they're
playing their best basketball right now and hopefully they can

(01:00:31):
keep that momentum going into the second half of the season.
Right now, you look at the Golden State Warriors, who's
everyone's favorite, it's just the injuries and things like that.
Like we all know that they're talented enough to win
and run through the Western Conference and be right back
in the finals. But chemistry and rhythm and all that
is very very important. And right now you have four

(01:00:53):
All Stars guys that's not out there playing. You question
the health of Steph Curry right now, even though that
they say he's back to full contact. Kevin Durant, that's
extremely important. He has to be. You know, he's the
guy that you go through in the half court. Obviously
they play off of him and he draws the double
teams and you got the shotmakers and Clay and all

(01:01:15):
the rest of the guy's knocking shots down on the perimeter.
But it's going to be intriguing to see, and and
and last, but not leave, not least you look at
the Houston Rockets. They believe that they can beat anyone.
The story, the true story of the underdog. Chris Paul
never been into a conference finals. This, this is something
he wants so desperately. And you know he's tuned out

(01:01:38):
the noise, but he definitely heard all the things and
he wants to prove all the doubters. Brow Caron Butler
Johnny in studio. You got Chancey Boston up close last night, Right,
that was crazy game where Oklama City could have ended
at the free to the line. They didn't. I guess
Boston screwed up to play and Moore still ends up
hitting a crazy game winning three at the at the

(01:01:59):
end of the game. But remember this is a Boston
team that haven't had Gordon Hayward the entire season. Kyrie
missed last night because of because you know, no, no
Jalen Brown. How do they do it? Like it's easy
to say, well, well they got Brad Stevens, but like,
come on, like, yes, coaching does in fact matter some
of it? His players combined with coaching and belief, how
have they been able to kind of maintain this pace

(01:02:21):
in spite of the fact haven't had Hayward and they've
had so many other injuries. Yeah, you know, sitting down
with coach Brad Stevens yesterday, he had said that point
of emphasis is going to be playing with sides. You know.
So you got Greg Monroe, you got Al Horford, and
you got big guys with length, and then you got Rosier.
They're gonna play through those guys as much as possible.

(01:02:41):
And then the development of Tatum. He's been amazing, you know,
a rookie, but a guy has you know, season the moment,
capitalizing on the moment, and I think his development, you know,
during the time that Kyrie Irving and those guys are
down and out. You know, it's gonna pay extremely dividends
going forward. If you're a betting man, where is Lebron
James play next year? You know, I think Los Angeles,

(01:03:04):
I really do. I think Los Angeles, depending on what
the ext it looked like. Uh, you know, this season,
I don't have them winning the championship, possibly making it
to the finals again, but the road is gonna be
extremely tough. That The reason why I say that is
because with all due respect, you know, you look at
Jordan Clarkson, you look at you know, Nance and all
those guys, the additions, these guys were second, second string

(01:03:31):
guys on their respective teams coming in, so all of
a sudden, you're gonna put them in a in a
space where now they have to be consistent on a
on a contender. And I just think that's too quick
of a light switch to turn on for a young nucleus.
And you know, it's it's demands playing with a guy

(01:03:53):
like Lebron James, you know, and the second best player, playmaker.
Lebron always had that playmate in Miami at Dwayne Waite,
a healthy Dwayne Waite. Now he goes back to Cleveland
early he had Kyrie Irvan, a guy that can close
and get his shot great for others. And then now
you look at the second best playmaker on that squad,

(01:04:15):
it's probably Jordan Clarkson. Can he be relied upon in
the biggest moments? And I love his game, huge fan
of Jordan Clarkson. But this is a different beast. This
is a different animal, right. It's well, it's one thing
to get buckets off the bench for a non playoff
Laker team. It's a whole other thing to do it
in the NBA playoffs when everything when when everyone has
a scout on you, every possession is more important. There's

(01:04:37):
a lot more pressure. And you got Lebron James who
puts his own kind of amount of pressure on you.
All right, I want to ask you about some of
the college players who are declaring, because you also covered
college games for ESPN and for Spectrum Sports earlier this year. First,
so let's get to Dan Buyer before rejoined by Karen Butler.
What's going on sports on the NFL Competition Committee is
formulated a new rule. Well, I guess it's an old rule,

(01:04:59):
but they're clarified the catch rule. Control of the football
is what a receiver needs. They also need two feet
down or a body part inbounds and a football move
and that will constitute a catch. Just needs to be
approved approved by the NFL next week at the annual meetings.
NFL Draft coming to Fox this April. First two days
of the draft will air on Fox, would be simulcast
on the NFL network. The New York day of the

(01:05:20):
news is the Jets tried to move up to number
one overall in the NFL Draft before striking a deal
with the Colts last weekend for number three Well Raiders
running back Marshawn Lynch reportedly took a five hundred thousand
dollar pay cut to return to Oakland next season. That
second baseman Daniel Murphy won't be ready for the start
of the season as he continues to recover from micro
fracture surgery last October. Some college hoops news David Paget

(01:05:42):
not returning his Louisville's head coach after just one year
when he replaced Rick Pattino. Dean Wade could come off
the bench for Kansas State in their Sweet sixteen matchup
with Kentucky tomorrow and guys. I thought it was official
last week when he said after their loss in the
first round to Buffalo, but Arizona's DeAndre Ayton made it
official today declaring for the NBA Draft. Thanks Dan doug

(01:06:03):
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(01:06:25):
weekend lineup and uh it's headlined by Karen Butler, NBA
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Turner covers the college game for ESPN as well as
Spectrum Sports that's locally here on the West Coast, and
he'll be joined by Yahoo Sports NBA insider Chris Mannox.
Also Mannix is host the national radio show in the past,

(01:06:45):
so that should be great. Twelve to three Eastern time
every Sunday here on Fox Sports Radio. Trey Young declares
for the NBA Draft before you even say anything, I'm
happy you did. I'm really because you know, this is
this is a guy that had us in all all
season and you know, we can we can talk about

(01:07:07):
you know, them not playing extremely well down the stretch
or whatever, but Troy Trey Young was the nd all
be all for that team. You know, he was a
guy that brought uh electric, you know, this flash and
flavor to that team and to you know, college basketball.
He became must watch television, you know, all season long.

(01:07:28):
So you know, I'm happy for him, happy for his family.
Definitely would be in the top fifteen, I believe, And
you know, I'm looking forward to watching him develop on
the fly. Does that work in the NBA his game? Yeah,
I think he's a guy that you know, it's gonna
have to develop, you know. But the thing that's super
intriguing about him, you know, you think about the Yukon guys,

(01:07:50):
and you think about you know, kimber Walker. You think about, um,
you know, smaller guards that's able to create space and
shoot shoot off the dribble. He has unlimited range, probably
have a lack of size a little bit, and he's
gonna build on his strength and things like that. But

(01:08:10):
he just have it. Whatever it is, he has it,
and um, he's special. He's a special talent. So he's
gonna be okay going. But let's let's let's let's examine
the Kemba Walker. So look, Kemba. I always thought Kemba
coming in, I thought he could be at his best
in the Jamal Crawford role, right that that was what
I thought. That was what I thought his ceiling was.

(01:08:31):
He's obviously exceeded that, becoming an All Star. But I
thought you put Kemba Walker where you're like, hey man,
I don't wonder about running any team. Just minutes a game,
you just go be, go, get buckets, don't want about
anything else. And because he has a different gear than
most guys have. You know, Cason point the last his
last jump shot at Madison Square Garden in the Big

(01:08:54):
East Championship where he made the kid from Pittsburgh fall down,
you know, like Demba, like Kemba kem. But the reason
the step back works is you're so scared of that
first step that you and that you retreat and then
all of a sudden your legs just go they're just dead. Um.
I know that that a jump shot can also allow

(01:09:14):
you to get space, you know, because what in the
NBA called gravity right where you know, everybody's just drawn
to you because they're they're scared of that jump shot.
But the numbers were bad. I mean I read them
on air yesterday since February one from two from three,
and I I know early in the year it was
he was at a ridiculous level. But it's like you're

(01:09:37):
trying to be Steph and everybody wants him to be Steph,
but he's just not Steph. And my fear is, or
maybe the reality is, you go to the NBA and
you've played this one way where you've always had the
ball and always been able to either you try and
do that, and you know how vets are vets like
young fella passed the ball um or he tries to

(01:09:57):
change his game, and that's even maybe harder to do.
Two things. If if you're if you're on, if you're
in the lottery one, you're gonna go to a team
that's gonna feature you. So he's not gonna have to
worry about too many vets telling him like don't do
this and don't do that. As you saw with the
lines of ball this season with the Lakers, Luot thing
and those guys was sitting down watching him develop on

(01:10:18):
the fly. So it's gonna be the same thing with
Trey Young. And then also if you look at what
you touched on the spacing and now people are keying
in on all his strengths. And then once he gives
up the ball, you have to think about the talent
that he's also playing with, So the talent pool goes
up a notch. He's gonna be playing with elite talented players.

(01:10:40):
Guys that you know, been the man on their team,
whether it's college or you know, had a little season
in the NBA, know how to play, uh specialized in
making shots or being playmakers or what have you. So
he's gonna be highlighted and featured in a different way.
Therefore he's going to be able to be successful. One

(01:11:00):
of the things you guys have with Yukon, there's two
parts to it. Calhoun would always tell me, I tell
guys to go, but it wasn't necessarily based upon where
they're drafted, but you got to focus on getting that
second contract right. He was always he was big because
the second contract is the generational wealth, is the is
the big money. But he also you, guys, there was
demands that you played defense, and those demands weren't made

(01:11:22):
to him this year. How hard is it to especially
in the league you cover the league for Turner Ron
Butler joining us check him out noon to three Eastern
every Sunday here on Fox Sports Radio. Now in the NBA,
everybody wants to switch, you know, obviously don't switch with staff.
They kind of hide him with Golden State. But that
he's he's smaller than Staff, He's younger than Staff coming out,

(01:11:42):
and he hasn't there hasn't been the demands on him
to play defense. How difficult adjustment is that it's gonna
be a difficult adjustment, But it's adjustment that you know,
That's what it's all about. Development. How many guys do
you know in the NBA are two way players right now?
There's a handful of them. And we we highlight the
guys that do play on the defensive end. We we
talked about Kawhi Leonard, We talked about Clay Thompson. We

(01:12:05):
talk about like these guys. That's what you're supposed to do, right,
you know, I'm supposed to just be an athlete. Is
supposed to play both sides of the floor. You supposed
to be offensively sound, supposed to have a skill set
on defense as well. You're supposed to be, uh this,
have a niche. His niche right now is he can
make shots, he can make plays, and he has no sillings.

(01:12:27):
His his his his his future is extremely bright. Like
I love what I'm seeing out of him. And he's
still so he's relatively young, you know, so he has
a bright future, all right, DeAndre Ayton or Marvin Bagley.
Bagley is more of a face up four who can
score something the post. Eyton, you talked about two. A
guy can help you as a shot blocker, can also
shoot the ball and score in the post. You have

(01:12:49):
the number one pick, who do you take him on?
I'm gonna take Aid And And the reason why I
say that is, you know, I think you didn't really
get a chance to see the real Arizona team because
of all the controversy and adversity he was going through,
you know, before they was fighting the battle before they
even made it to the court. So now you look
at a guy like Aiden Um athletically he's off the charts. Um,

(01:13:13):
he's a man, he's a grown man, you know, playing
amongst you know children this season they say the least,
and I feel like his upside is you know, he
has no sillings and you know, going forward, I think
he's going to be special. It's it's really crazy though
on how there there seems to be the re birth
of the big band in the NBA. And I'll be
fast to see how they can adjust because the officiating

(01:13:33):
now helps the guards, right, you can't touch guys the perimeter.
There's no rarely calling the legal screen, you know, so
you can run up and at the Clint Capela last night,
act like you're sitting the screen on one side, flip
it and said on the other side, it's really confusing
with But they haven't done the same thing for Biggs.
And yet you see Joel Embiid, you see uh Yo kich,
you see Carl Town's, you see both the bigs in

(01:13:56):
New Orleans, um all, you know, all performing really really
well without the help of the official. It feels though,
like that we're very, very close to the kind of
rebirth of the Big Man, carrying you to an NBA champion. Yeah,
we we saw this. I was watching Kobe's moose Cage
and he has said that this could be the death
of the Big Man or the reasurgence of the Big Man,

(01:14:18):
because the game is so perimeter oriented, and it doesn't
it doesn't cater to what we traditionally seen for years
with the Big Man, you know, operating in the post,
getting the contacts. It's more pace, it's not more grinded out.
Uh it's tempo. So if you have guys that can

(01:14:38):
come in and you know, add that dimension and make it,
you know, something super intriguing to watch. Then it's gonna
it's gonna help the case because it's all about you know, ratings,
it's all about viewership, it's all about excitement. And you know,
people don't want to look at a game that's this
mucked up. They want to look at pace, they want
to look at high scoring, and they want to see excitement.

(01:15:00):
I still think that, yes, they want to see the
threes and the dunks and the excitement, but they're all
also what is something to Like you go to the
NBA game and there's a seven footer going against another
seven footer and these guys are it's not like in
the seventies or early eighties, like these dudes are super
super athletic, right, and there has to be away. It
is mucked up when it's down there, right, I mean,

(01:15:21):
they just beating the crap out of each other. It's
really really hard to even make a move in the
low post. That's why teams don't post up anymore. It's
gotta be away in which they can tighten up the
official and to loosen up down there. Yea, And what's
what's super intriguing now with the NBA It's all about space,
and it's about real estate because everything is perimeter oriented.
So you want to give guys that space to operate

(01:15:43):
and play that temple and have the exciting place where
you're going down he'll get into the paint and forcing
your thrusts offensively on the defensive guy and having the
exciting place. But if somebody's always clogged up in the paint,
it takes away from a lot of things, all right.
He ended, He did the game last night in Boston,
flew all the way here back to his home in

(01:16:03):
l A. You can see him on Turner Sports Course
there coverage with the players only night on Tuesday nights. Uh.
He was covering college basketball a year. And you'll hear
him on Fox Sports Radio noon to three Eastern Time
with our man, Chris Bannocks Man. That's gonna be just insightful.
Cannot miss radio every Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's tough.
Juice NBA Champion Corron Butler CB, thanks for joining us.

(01:16:25):
Pleasures always always ours are the Raiders having a terrible offseason.
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(01:17:12):
about to do right here? Uh Doug Gotlan Show, Fox
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A lot of those shows you can actually hear on
Serious Channel eight three XM Series eight three. We call
it now. Rod Woodson, the Hall of Famer safety cornerback

(01:17:36):
return man. How good was he? Stud and a former
coach with most recently, Who do you coach with last year? Oh?
The Raiders? The Raiders? Yeah he did anyway. He had
this to say about the Silver and Blacks offseason. I
don't want to sound like a scorn lover because I
was fired by the Raiders. I love Mark Davis, I
love the Davis family, but you can't tell me you

(01:17:56):
got rid of Michael Crabtree and you get put Jordy
Nelson in there, and Jordy Nelson's better than Michael Crabtree.
That's a lie. And I love Darry Carr. Derrey Carr
is not Aaron Rodgers, all right, So that's completely different.
You can't tell me you bring in Doug Martin and
they're better football team. Now, I understand Gruten is wonderful
and on his in his TV gig, he did a
lot of great things as a coach, but he only

(01:18:18):
his games ten years. Shay a hundred million dollars. I'm
hoping Mark Davis had some outs because my question would be,
how many Super Bowls do you have to win for
a hundred million dollars? You give that deal to a
Bill Belichick, absolutely, but to a to a John Gruten,
I just it's hard for me to understand. And then
he's making a lot of moves. I get it, but

(01:18:39):
those two moves. Rab Tree was the he was the
glue to that offense because he gave them a backbone,
he gave them toughness. Jordy Nelson not gonna give him that. What.
I don't know if I completely agree with with Rod
Woodson because I'm not sure that rod Is is telling
the entire story. That was a defunct no locker room.

(01:19:01):
Last year, they had a play caller who had ever
called place before, and he ran a style. They have
a massive offensive line, and they played a style in
which they tried to they tried to have it was
for a more mobile offensive. They running his zone blocking scheme.
Like look, I'm not sitting here trying to tell you
I know more about football than Rod Woodson not. But
in talking to NFL people that all go like they're

(01:19:23):
running something that doesn't fit. We we talked about this
with Johnny Flynn, a ball screen point guard was drafted
by the Timberwolves who were coached by Kurt Rambis, and
they were running the triangle like that doesn't fit. That
doesn't work. And if you if you you know, or
or when Dwight Howard was was running the Princeton offense,
forget about playing with D'Antoni. Maybe that works, you know,
just picking and rolling to the hoop. But when he

(01:19:45):
when Mike Brown took over and he had Eddie Jordan
the Princeton style offense, like that doesn't work with any
of their personnel. Steve Nash didn't work with Dwight Howard whatever,
the same thing in basketball and in football if you
remember his zone blocking scheme who popularized in the NFL
the Denver Broncos, and they would have undersized offensive lineman,
mobile guys that get out, everybody could pull, everybody could move,

(01:20:08):
more agility overpower. That's not how the Raiders were structured.
That's not however they're built. So the first thing is
you've got to completely rethink what the Raiders are going
to look like next year in terms of style when
they're gonna get back to power running football with Bill
Callahan as their offensive line coach, because he his style
and the play calling style will fit that personnel. Secondly,

(01:20:32):
the crab Tree thing isn't at all about talent. The
crab Tree thing is about personalities. Derek Carr, Derek Carr
is a very very religious guy, very humble, very religious
and almost a little bit too quiet at times off
the field in terms of being a leader. And you

(01:20:52):
had huge personalities, crab treating a huge personality and um
uh uh what's his name at running back? Uh, Marshawn
Lynch at you know, at at running back. And that's
why I'm most surprised they brought back Marshall Lynch. It's
not that Marshawn Lynch is totally washed, and they get him.
They got him a discountant, very playing him any paying

(01:21:15):
him anything, but but his persona, his personality taking up
for his cousin on a different team when he gets
into a fight with a rayer like that. Locker room
was a mess last year, and I think that's what
some of these moves are meant to clean that up.
Jordy Nelson is not a great player anymore. He doesn't
have to beat me a third wide receiver with them.

(01:21:35):
But Jordy Nelson is a great dude, a humble dude
in one who can be the right hand man and
the confidant to Derek Carr. They fit together personality wise,
and that's what I think that moves about. You got
to get the Hooters and try the new smoke wings,
a whole new way to crave wings with all the
taste and half the calories you eat twice as many
from Hooters. Important to point out that only less than

(01:21:58):
a third of the free agents last year contributed to
their teams this year, so there's a lot of talk
about free agency and all these guys switching places. But
there's a reason that, guys, if you're really good, for
the most part, you're not gonna be available. With franchise
tag and the ability to cut you and reset your
your salary, for the most part, you're not gonna be available.

(01:22:22):
I'm gonna ask you again, do you believe in signs
in the NFL world? I do? And there's a sign
to what's happening in Cleveland. It took place in l
A today. Let's share it with you. Next in the
Doug Gotlip Show. Mm hmmm, what up? Dog Gotlip Show?
Fox Sports Radio. I'm try m Are you guys? U um?

(01:22:55):
Are you guys? Signs people? That's that's really what it
kind of comes down to. Are you sign person? Stug
Golam Show. It's Fox Sport Trade. It's coming to you
live and direct from a city of Angels. And I
know some people are like I was looking for a
sign and then there's this cleaner's I go to that
always has a saying on it and it just so happened, like, yeah,

(01:23:18):
a little bit of it, oh bob it um, But like, look,
are you a signs person? Now? I'm part of it?
Is part of The problem with signs is you can
use them to You can always use them for affirmation, confirmation, affirmation, right,
Like I give an example yesterday, I missed the first

(01:23:43):
pitch of my son's baseball game and hit home run.
And so if I was negative on the signs thing
I would be. You know, it could be usy. Well,
you know, if you lived closer to work, you would
have seen it, you know. And I booked out of
here as quickly as I could. Of course, I forgot
my phone in the process and that delayed me. Um,

(01:24:06):
but regardless of which, like it's a schlept to get home.
Then my wife said, like, hey, don't feel bad. He
actually sometimes plays better when you're not there, like when
later on the game he was pitching, and early on
he was kind of struggling because he kept after very pitch.
He'd look over at me, like, don't look at me,
it's pitch. And so as much as I would have
liked to been there, fly on the wall, pull up,

(01:24:28):
seem hit home run, lop the bases one, he gets
better and better every time he tells the story. Right, Dad,
I hit home run. Everybody asked him, how did you do?
I had a home run. It gets better and better better.
So it's not the because it didn't go over the fence,
and it might might have only been a number, and
they might have bad news. Beared it right, just kicked
the ball, kicked the ball, kicked the ball. I have
no idea my my estimation. It was a triple throwing air.

(01:24:52):
He scored a run. We'll call it a home run.
My wife's like, you're good, don't worry about it. He
he's better sometimes when you're not there. He wants you
to be there to help him. When you know afterwards,
when he's not playing well, he wants you to show
him the video and help teach him. Don't And I
so I don't. I don't. I know I need a bridge,

(01:25:16):
maybe not as big a bridge as I have between
home and work, but I need that that space, I
need that time. I need sometime. So I don't know
if that was a sign of where to live or
what to do. I do think sometimes I'll be today
I was. I was on his playground before he went

(01:25:39):
to school. He just shooting hoops as playground before school,
and a couple of parents, Hey, I listen to show
like the show. Whatever didn't you I went to this
high school. Didn't you go there? And I was like, yeah,
you know what, it kind of makes sense that I'm here.
So maybe these are affirmation signs, right, confirmation signs that
I was searching for and looking for, and I just
happened to receive them. But I'm a signed guy. I

(01:26:05):
think there's just you know, did you make the right
decision at the right time. I always, almost always, when
I'm done with something, I want to get the first
flight spoken and I want to get on the last
flight in you know, the last flight of the day.
And I do so because I want to spend as
much time, you know, here as possible, because sometimes we

(01:26:31):
travel a lot in our business and then you land
and where you see that the flight that you thought
were thought about taking what were was delayed, and you're like,
see as a sign I caught the right flight. Do
you ever get one of those? I felt like there
was a sign today At USC's pro day, Sam Donald's quarterback,
Sam Donald was the wet quarterback. It was raining, it

(01:26:52):
was mucky, it was ugly, and Sam Donald performed more
than modestly well and he happened to do show it.
Jimmy has them the owner of the Cleveland Browns, who
I was told also went and saw Josh Rosen work
out as well, So it's not like he's the only
thing he was in town for. But nothing says Cleveland

(01:27:14):
more than Grace Guys, Cloudy rain right that there's a
legit conversation to be had about whether you know Drew
Brees couldn't have been Drew Brees in New England couldn't
or in Green Bay or in Cleveland, not just because

(01:27:34):
the organizations, but but he couldn't because he didn't have
that kind of arm strength. Probably the same is true
with Peyton Manning and Paymentning played indoors. So Cleveland is
a tough putt. It's gonna take a different sort of mentality,
a different level of toughness and the ability to play
outside and with nothing to really gauge it against. Right,

(01:27:59):
there's no way. Yesterday Josh Rosen has his pro day
and man, it wasn't a cloud in the sky. It
was beautiful, it was sunny, it was a little brisk,
it was a little windy, but I mean it looked
like a Hollywood set. And he's got like just a
nice amount of sweat. He got kind of like a

(01:28:19):
a scruff sort of beard. Donald gets out there and
it fits St. Clement. A guy who wasn't a five
star recruit, guy who didn't simply focus on football, and
he also played basketball in high school. Guy who just
finds a way to make plays. And it's raining and
Jimmy has them's there. You're like, dude, I don't know

(01:28:42):
if you believe in signs in the draft. I sure
as hell do. That's a he's going to be a
Cleveland Brown. He's gonna be a Glenn Brown. He's got
one of these personalities that you can't kind of pinpoint it,
but you just feel like he's got a little of
that girl the prom happy to be there. Take a
listen to Josh to to Sam Donald after his pro day,

(01:29:02):
it's just a job interview, to be honest with you,
and then just coming out here and I thought, I, honestly,
I showed them the best version of myself. Um. I've
been training really hard for this day, and I thought
I thought I did really well, just like how I
would train for any other game. Being able to meet
all these coaches. Um, I'm really just living out my
dream anytime. You know, days get hard, Uh, you know,
especially at the combine when you're up at you know, four,

(01:29:23):
I am for a drug test and you gotta stay
up late in meetings, Um, you just think about where
else would I rather be? And that's kind of what
I think about um during those moments. God, he says
all the right things, doesn't he anybody? He says all
the right things, but not in a program sort of way. Music.
Do you hear it as well? Or am I just?
Am I hearing things because I want to hear those things?

(01:29:44):
You're you're hearing them because you really want to like him?
Is that what you're trying to say? No? No, I
already like him. He's immenseally likable. But I'm I'm saying
it's it's one thing to say the right things. It's
other things to say the right things in a way
in which is really believable. And I think he's the latter,
not the point. I see what you're saying, because Russell

(01:30:04):
Wilson says all the right things, but people him and
Tom Brady they always go well, he kind of sounds
like a robot, like Russell Russell Wilson sounds. It's too
it's too much. It's just too much. He just just
too much. It's it's it's um, it feels like a preacher,
feels like a preacher, and I'm sorry. There's no disrespect

(01:30:27):
to religion. It's more to Sunday preachers. Joel Olstein, on
the other hand, is one guy to which I don't
like that he didn't open up. It's like, I don't really,
I don't know why I didn't open up his church
during the floods. I was like, well, they would have
asked us to that. Somebody had to ask, you know,
would be churchill floods. But Joel Olstein has a way
of not sounding as much preachery as some of the
other guys that are on TV. Preacher wise, but for

(01:30:48):
the most part, the TV and radio preachers sound like
they're selling you something right, right, I get what you're saying.
And I think Rosen has a tenden not Rosen Russell
Wilson has a tendency to sound it's a little too
much like Gosh, I listen to your show, it's incredible,
like I think, stop stopping right sports radio show, catch

(01:31:10):
your breath, Whereas Donald is kind of saying some of
the same stuff but just has a way of like, yeah,
I bought that, right. Yeah. He has much more of
a relatability and gets you to buy into it as
opposed to you're constantly questioning, is this dude for real?
Is he just selling me? You know? Is he trying
to sell me on the idea that he's actually a

(01:31:30):
good dude? Mm hmm um. So I don't think he's
trying to sell me. I just think this is who
he is. I actually don't think he's trying to be gracious.
I think he is gracious. I think he's trying to
be respectful. I think he is respectful. And I think
all of that is going to come in really handy,

(01:31:51):
really handy with with Cleveland. And by the way, if
the Jets do in fact at Josh Rosen, I kind
to think that fits the Jets. Now you might say, well,
why does that fit the Jets? The Jets are the
second team in New York, right, the Jets. The Giants
are the ones that have won all the Super Bowls.

(01:32:13):
The Jets have just won one, and that's when they
had you know, Broadway Joe calling his shots. Um. But
I actually think kind of that person personality that more
than tinge of arrogance that this is where I'm supposed
to be, this is what you're I'm I'm just better
than you sort of sense. Like I think that works

(01:32:35):
out really well for the Jets. I don't think it
works in Cleveland. I don't because with the Jets you
are going to feel more than a bit of disrespect.
You are going to feel slighted. Look in New York,
as much as people are Giants and Jets fans, none
of that matters until the Yankees season is over. Now

(01:32:55):
the Yankees are good again, none of it and you
have to learn that that that's the specking order. And
when you're well normally some of the Jets they don't,
they don't like it, they don't, but you have to
feed off the negative energy of others. Rosen will do that.
But when I watched today, I see the rains start

(01:33:17):
coming down and Josh Rosen like, oh yeah, what's on
the rain throwing the way? It's like the end of
um Green Eggs at Ham? You remember the great novel
from Dr SEUs Green Eggs at Ham? How's it end?
Rama's I just remember, Sam, I am, That's what I remember.

(01:33:38):
Right at first, He's like, I'm not gonna try him
in a car, in a house, in a plane. I'm
not gonna try him on a boat. I'm not gonna
try him anywhere. And then he takes some nibble and
he's like, you know what is pretty good? And I
will try them in a house, and I will try
them on a train, I will try them in a boat,
and I will try them in the rain. Sam Bradford,
I mean, so that's Sam Donald sim was like, now

(01:34:01):
the football. You got a shirt on, no shirt on,
I'll throw a football. Roll out your left, I'll do that,
throw out your right, I'll do that. It's raining. Fine,
I'm just I just I just want to try green
eggs and him. It felt like a sign today. I
felt like I've never I've never felt comfortable with anybody

(01:34:21):
going to the Cleveland Browns before, every time somebody's been
drafting Breads like that's not gonna end. Well. I'm friends
with Brandon Weeden. I remember when he was drafted. I
was like, that's the death knell. This is the death
knew and I look at their plan. You've got a
starting quarterback in place, he'll have a chance to learn.
There's a kid who sat and learned and red shirted before.
He knows what that's about. He knows what it's like

(01:34:44):
to be ready to get inserted when it becomes obvious
time to be inserted, and then how to lead. And
he's not perfect. That the perfect prospect doesn't have the
perfect release, but Cleveland's not the perfect town, perfectly imperfect,
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(01:36:02):
all right, so look, we're less We're about twenty five
hours away from the tournament getting back underway. We've had
this kind of respite. You still have some big name
teams in it, some interesting lines in it. There's lots
of intrigue in it. And what's a better way to
get us fired back up for the Sweet sixteen than
the head of Vegas? WAITI like, give my money, right?

(01:36:22):
Are you tired of losing money every week? Do you
want to be in the know? Well, we might not know,
but Vegas always knows. R J Bell from pregame dot
Com Fox Sports Radio joins the show. Uh. He knows

(01:36:44):
all the lines, knows all the numbers, knows all the trends.
Let me just out back to last weekend, last Friday night,
r J, how big an upset was that UNBC over Virginia.
They had a lot of ways to look at it. Right,
on one hand, and this is a little bit of
water on It wasn't even the biggest upset in the
history of the tournament based upon seedings. Right, So if

(01:37:08):
you go back to two thousand twelve, a number two
Missouri team lost to Norfolk State as a twenty one
and a half point underdog, and you NBC was about
twenty one, so right in that range. But that Missouri
loss was even bigger. Now, what's crazy about that. What's
crazy about the Missouri game is that they were also

(01:37:30):
I believe, the first team to lose shooting eighty. But
it was a fifty forty over fifty over forty over
eighty and lost the game like they didn't. It wasn't
like Virginia or Michigan State. They couldn't buy couldn't buy
a bucket. They actually made shots, they just couldn't get
a stop. Well that's I didn't really remember that, but
that's your right, anatomy of these big upsets, especially in

(01:37:56):
this high variance age of so many three pointers, right,
which allows a underdog to potentially get really hot and
play a high variance game, but it also allows a
favor to play a high variance game that goes against them,
right in that extreme range of the variants. So that
that's a fascinating point on that two thousand twelve game. Now,

(01:38:16):
when it comes to cash to one underdog U NBC
winning the game. Outright, you might think, oh r J.
Who had that? Nobody had that one guy, and I
guess he was an alum or associated with the school.
He bet eight hundred dollars here in Vegas to win
over sixteen thousand. I tweeted out the ticket. So pretty amazing,

(01:38:41):
not only the huge upset, but a huge payoff for
that fellow. Yeah, it was. I'm actually looking at that
Norfolk State Bucks score. Norfolk State eighties six eighty four
was the final score. And Missouri check out these numbers. Uh,
Missouri for the game shot sixteen of twenty six from
two to sixty one, sent thirteen of twenty nine from

(01:39:02):
three forty four nearly they shot seventy from three from
the free throw line thirteen of seventeen. Uh. And they
only had eight turnovers, I mean, and they still lost
the game. That's because they couldn't stop anybody. It's crazy,
you know, dog it in my opinion, And I say
this to you often, one of the sharpest college basketball

(01:39:23):
guys out there, you for sure, in my opinion, do
you agree with me? And I think the math makes
it unequivocal that the very best teams actually suffer from
all the threes where if somehow some question you agree
with you. No, I mean like, look at look at
the two biggest almost the most pronounced upsets in the

(01:39:43):
first and that what Thursday or Friday Buffalo was fifteen
of thirty from three, right, UNBC was twelve of twenty
four from three. The way to beat the bigger traditional
teams has played small ball and shoot and make a
lot of threes. You make of your threes, especially when
you make more more than ten of them, you're gonna
win most of those games. And you think about it
as much as we think back, okay, nfol back in

(01:40:06):
Jim Brown's days very different than today. We get that
sense in every sport, right Mickey man o versus today.
But you think about college basketball, no threes and no
shot clock. Boy, those and obviously John Warden was amazing,
but those victories very different basketball than today, probably the
most of any sport. The difference from let's say forty

(01:40:27):
years ago until today. Uh, but this is uh The
Doug Gollip Show on Fox Sports Radio. R J. Belzer
guests from pregame dot com, and you can also hear
him on Fox Sports Radio Friday night at eleven o'clock
Pacific time Saturday. Uh again, and Saturday morning is well
Eastern time. UH. Saturday night at ten o'clock at night,
we're a one am Eastern time. So you can hear

(01:40:48):
straight at Vegas or just go to pregame dot com
or follow him on Twitter. Let's let's let's get to
the Sweet sixteen. I read this that only one Elite
eight team has been seated worse than the number eleven,
none this year. So as much as there's been a
wide variance of upsets in the first weekend, in the
first round, there were no twelves over fives, and there

(01:41:10):
there's there's you know, no terrible seeds heading into the
six Sweet sixteen. Yeah, I think you touched on, in
my opinion, the underreported story here, which is as much
as we've got that sixteen seed, but as I like
to say, trademark pending, Cinderella is invited to the dance,
but she has a curfew. Well, that's sixteen obviously played

(01:41:32):
a heck of a game, covered the spread loss against
Kansas State, but no team worse than an eleven even
making the Sweet sixteen, which makes that Elite eight trend
a lock no matter who wins. And think about that. Now,
after this year, in the modern era, dug, there's gonna
have been two hundred and eighty Elite eight teams and

(01:41:55):
one worse than an eleven seed. I mean, all this
talk of twelves, and obviously this year the twelves were
oh for. But the idea that that that one has
made the Elite eight in the modern era worse than
eleven doesn't mean we shouldn't have sixty four teams in
the tournament. But boy, it's so clear that there's a

(01:42:17):
ceiling each round and that continues all the way to
the finals. Last twenty nine years, twenty eight times a
four seed or batter has won the n c A tournament. Right,
Let's get to some of the Sweet sixteen games. Let's
start with Kentucky. Kentucky a young team. First game they
beat Davidson, didn't even make a three point shot. We
talked about three point shots of nine from three uh.

(01:42:38):
And then you know, they play Buffalo, who seemed to
really be bothered by their length and run out of
little gas and they beat Kentucky. Now they get Kansas
State legit High Major, but Kansas State doesn't know how
much or if they'll have Dean Wade, who's their leader score,
the best player in all league player. The lines moved
from four and a half to five and a half.
Where's the smart money. I tell you I've never seen
a team and I might that might sound extreme, never,

(01:43:01):
but I don't think I have that's gone from being
underrated to overrated so quickly, literally a couple you know,
last game, I would still make the case Kentucky was underrated,
and you mentioned it their youth, because you've got games
from November, you know, even a little earlier through March,
and it's not that long, right, five months or so.

(01:43:23):
You're gonna blend those five months and look at the stats,
look at the record. But young teams in college basketball
that are pedigree, that have great young players, can trend
upwards faster than any other league. So the way Kentucky
was playing in December very different than the way they
were playing in February and March. The market, the Vegas

(01:43:45):
market had not caught up to that. But now that
if you look in their region, the ones out, the
twos out, the threes out, the fours out, and the
six is out. The fact they have such a clear
path to the final four. Now everyone's woken up to
how good Kentucky is. So I would probably lean Kansas
State like you said injury questions, but I think right

(01:44:06):
now Kentucky is overrated, all right. Loyala Chicago. The Kentucky
could go through Kansas State as the highest seed before
they get to the final four. Loyala Chicago and Nevada
Lota Chicago has got sister Jean on their side. Um,
but they she didn't pick that, She didn't pick him
into the lead eight. She she did not against Nevada

(01:44:27):
team that came from down twenty two to beat Cincinnati.
It's in's interesting, like you can take shots at Loules
Chicago saying, hey, Tennessee had him then they stopped playing
like Nevado was down twenty two points. Nevadas, I believe
a point and a half favorite is what it opened at.
It's a point and a half favorite as of now.
If you had to lean, whereould it be? We were
talking about this on our podcast. Let me ask you.

(01:44:50):
An expert that I trust on the pod said that Nevada,
when they are playing their defined offense has been horrible
in the tournament. And obviously we know they've trout against
Taxes to by double digits. But then they go with
their best player, kind of spread it out NBA style,
and this guy's brought them back. As you've watched these games,

(01:45:10):
is that the way you've seen it. When they've been
in offense, Nevada has really been outplayed. Yeah. I mean, look,
they don't have their point guard, Lindsay Drew towards Achilles Tendon,
and so you have the Martin twins, Caleb Martins the
better of the two twins, and yeah, they just kind
of isolate their guys and let them go. And that's
what and playing on the whole game. Uh yeah, turn
turn around the entire game. So I would the big

(01:45:31):
thing is to me, can you can you if you
can pressure Nevada without a point guard? You know, the
kid the Martins are are really more threes and fours
than they are ones. Can you can turn them over
and you can make them look bad? I just don't
know if that's the personality of Loyala, even though loyal
To play small. I like Nevada in the game. Here's
the thing. If Nevada comes out and commits, they're gonna

(01:45:53):
run the normal offense for a majority of the game.
I would really like Liola here, but I am free.
They're gonna say, listen, we've played poorly that way. Let's
go this NBA style the whole game. Then I probably
like Nevada. So I've seen sharps on both sides of this.
I'm passing Duke. Syracuse is one that's a big number.
Eleven and a half. Now. Duke beat them at their

(01:46:15):
place by sixteen points, ruling in the year when Syracuse
only scored forty four. But Syracuse has found a way
to get kind of, you know, blood from a rock,
if you will, playing these absolute grinders and just getting
a bucket from tius battle here or there and winning games.
Why does Vegas not think this is gonna be a grinder? Yeah,
so right now, Duke favored by eleven and a half.

(01:46:37):
I think it's justified. Syracuse was the most egregious in
the eyes of Vegas, in the eyes of the power ratings,
most egregious inclusion into the tournament. Now they've redeemed themselves
so and we see that often that one team that
gets the most media heat for making the tournament tends
it tends the one at least step up one game

(01:46:59):
and may their statement. Now, I think some of the
other wins, and remember Syracuse won three games in that
first week, is about that zone. It's so quirky if
you haven't faced it, and if you're not physically able
to deal with the length. And Syracuse is obviously a
pedigreed program, it's a problem. Duke not only can deal
with it physically. They've already played this zone. And if

(01:47:22):
you look on the other side Duke, and I'm sure
you've talked about this, Doug, when they went to a zone,
predominantly their defense has gotten much much better. Well, the
thing about Duke is they still even in the zone,
they struggle to guard people. The good news is that
Syracus just doesn't appear to have the the firepower to score, right,

(01:47:43):
It's like, all right, so sometimes they there's some stat
where North Carolina had all these uncontested shots in their
a c C matchup against Duke. Would that Duke won
the semifinals but North Carolina didn't make them that that
Syracuse Syracus just doesn't have anybody can shooting and score.
But wouldn't you say, if it's all relative, right, maybe
objectively now, Duke is in a great defense. But relative

(01:48:06):
to before they played the zone, would you agree their
efficiency has gone way up? Yes, some of it was
that they were playing the bottom of the A C
C during that period of time, but yes, but it's
gone through the tournament, uh, the conference tournament and now
the n c A tournament, and they've kept up. I
think their improvement. I tend to agree with you, all right,
real quick picks Purdue Tech. What's your lean? Uh, Texas

(01:48:27):
Tech here? I think Purdue, Uh, the absence of their
big man did not hurt them as much last game
because the matchups, I think it hurts them more here.
Completely agree. Villanova West Virginia. This is West Virginia is big.
They pressed Villanova a little bit smaller. They shoot a
ton of threes, which and they're they're also a prohibitive
favorite thoughts. Yes, so Villanova five and a half in
this game. I like Villanova. West Virginia's press is a differentiator.

(01:48:51):
It's quirky. Villanova has great guard play. I think they
have enough to combat and you have a week to
prepare for that press as opposed to one day to
prepare for that press. Gonzaga Florida State. These games out
in l a You'll be sitting in Vegas. I'll be
sitting in courtside in l Aza. Gonzaga fourth straight Sweet sixteen,
went to the final four last year. A Florida State
team who was down twelve in the waning minutes and
came back and beat Xavier. But a very athletic Florida

(01:49:14):
State team. You have a good bit of money on.
Florida State opened up the Zags minus seven, down to
five and a half. I would lean that way, but
I'm not gonna beat that one. And but I will
be betting the last game this Kansas Clemson. Oh yeah,
I forgot Clint Kansas Clemson. You're you're betting which way?
I like? Kansas? Here and I'll tell you this the
one game that spoke to me about Kansas. And again

(01:49:36):
you knowing the Big twelve, especially that team loves the
streak of winning in the regular season conference It was
thirteen in a row. Now they were down one game
against Tack. It was a hack of a comeback. Everyone said,
oh self doesn't really care about the conference tournament as much,
but he wants to beat Okay State in the first
round because of revenge they did. Oh, then he doesn't

(01:49:56):
want to lose against Kansas State. They beat them instead, right,
obviously the arrival, but then in the finals they were
underdogs against West Virginia. The fact they won that game
tell me something about this team. I think Kansas is underrated.
They've got a quasi home field advantage home court advantage
Kansas minus four and a half. I think one of
the better bets of Thorsan Friday. Go to pregame dot

(01:50:18):
com or follow him on Twitter, or even better yet,
listen to his radio show Friday night straight at a
Vegas eleven o'clock Pacific time, two am East Coast time,
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He's the only r J Bell. R J great stuff,
Thanks so much, Thank you. All right, let's get to uh,
let's get to Dan buyer Dan when he got well.

(01:50:41):
We've got some catch rule recommendations coming up before next
week's vote on the matter of the annual league meetings.
The Competition Committee, trying to simplify the wording. The proposed
rules to finding a catch would be control of the
football two feet down in bounds or another body part
like in the were an elbow, and then a football

(01:51:01):
move such as a third step, the ability to reach
or extend for a line to gain. All of that
would clarify what is a catch and what isn't a catch.
So Jesse James reaching for the go line like he
did for the Steelers against the Patriots under these under
these recommendations, that would be a sufficient catch in the
National Football League. We'll find out next week if it passes.

(01:51:22):
Coming up next month, the NFL Draft will air on Fox.
The first two days of the selection process will be
on Fox and simulcast on the NFL Network as it
takes place at A and T and T Stadium in Arlington, Texas,
April through the New York Day of The news is
the Jets tried to move up to number one overall
in the NFL Draft before striking a deal with the
Colts last weekend for number three. Some college basketball news,

(01:51:45):
Arizona's DeAndre Ayton made an Officials said last week he
was going to the NBA Draft, and today he declared.
David Paget is not returning his Louisville's men's basketball coach.
He took over for Rick Pattino some NBA news, Cavs
guard Kyle Korver will miss Tonight's game against the rat
if there's following in the death of his younger brother, Kurt.
The twenty seven year old Kirk Corver played college basketball
the University of Missouri Kansas City before graduating in In golf,

(01:52:09):
the Dell Match Play Championships underway. Jordan's speet Justin Thomas
and Jason Day when their first matches playing in Austin, Texas. Doug,
did you see this note from John Cali this thing?
John cal Perry said earlier today byre no, what's that? Um?
John cal Perry's team, of course, had lost one in
a row in the SEC and was falling on hard times.
We talked about a little bit here on my show

(01:52:31):
where I didn't bail on them, and they were great,
but I thought they were better than they have been playing,
And of course they turned around when the SEC tournament.
UM got a really good five twelve matchup against Davidson,
beat Dave, survived Davidson, and then, benefited by Buffalo's upset,
took on a third twelve and a thirteen seed to
get this Sweet sixteen. Here was calorie earlier. Today, My
challenge is making sure these kids don't drink that poison.

(01:52:54):
That poison being where we have an easy road, there
are new easy roads in this tournament. If they junk
that poison will be done Thursday. If they don't drink
the poison, and it will be a dogfight on Thursday.
Let's see what happens lands Fair. Uh. Look, I don't
know if it's drink the poisons A strong statements. One
of the reasons I don't know. I don't really like

(01:53:15):
Loyola in this case is loyal was such a big
national story. Sister Jean making the game winning shot, Sister Jean,
two upsets Sister Jean. Boy, you look at Griffin or
Sister Jean. You go home to a small school in
a big city, and everybody goes crazy. Everybody's become a

(01:53:36):
Loyal Rambler fan and a Porter Moser fan, and man,
why isn't he getting a job. I don't know whether
it's poison, but you're just not used to that type
of fandom. Don't get me wrong. It's not like Nevada
is used to be in the Sweet Sisteen either. But
and they had a spectacular comeback but it doesn't feel
like they're as small as score and as big a thing,

(01:53:57):
and they were home as long and had that much
of uh made that much of a statement, or it
wasn't that big a story. I don't know if it's poison.
It's just really hard to deal with people all of
a sudden coming out of the woodwork and being your
biggest fan, your biggest best friend. That's hard to do.
What are the chances Sean Miller returns as Arizona's head
men's basketball coach next season, I'll tell you next. Online

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southern California, which means people freaking out, freaking out roost
you freak out with the rain. No, I enjoy the rain.
It makes me feel like a nap. They use a
really good fifteen inches of snow and counting um two
inches an hour. Some people reporting that's the snore Easter

(01:55:14):
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do you got for me, Dan Well, I've got some
betting ads on Arizona head coach Sean Miller. Bovada is
listing odds on whether Miller will be the coach of

(01:55:55):
the Arizona Wildcats for Game one of the season. Three
to two odds that he will be, one of the
two odds that he won't be. However, there is something
to note. If he is suspended, suspended, or on administrative
leave for Game one, that would count as yes and
not know, so he would be still be the head

(01:56:17):
coach Arizona just wouldn't coach and that came, but that
would be He's more likely to be or not to be,
based upon more likely not to be, I would take
the money that he is going to be. You know, well,
we'll hear the tape right, Eventually we'll hear the wire,
and the wire doesn't the wire will. The truth will
set him free. I believe one thing that we do know,
David Paget won't return as Louisville's head coach. He took

(01:56:38):
over for one season following the dismissal of Rick Pettino
last fall, but not coming back next year. I thought
he did a good job. You know, It's not not
easy to be the substitute teacher all season long, especially
when I think he was the fourth assistant or the
third assistant. That is not an easy task, and he
did so admirably. But this is not a surprise. Now
the question is will Chris Mack, who was supposedly the favorite, Well,

(01:56:59):
Chris Mack leave his alma mater and take on that job.
Warriors guard Steph Curry practice today, returning from his sprained ankle,
on track to play Friday. As for Kevin Durant took
part in the non contact workout today but isn't expected
to return from his rib injury until next week. Well,
I think the Warriors are all gonna be healthy. Are
they gonna play a game or two before we get

(01:57:19):
to the playoffs is the big question. The father of
Buffalo Bill's wide receivers A Jones, says his son will
be fine after his arrest on Monday following a disturbance
where police found him bloody, bloodied, and naked following an
incident with his brother, Za Jones was released from custody
now will face charges of felony vandalism after breaking glass
and windows in a building where he reportedly threatened to

(01:57:40):
jump out of a thirtieth story window. Yeah. I don't
think he's fine. His dad's like he's fine, Like that
doesn't Bloody naked, threatened to jump out of a window
not my definition of fine. That's scary. That's just blood
everywhere as well. Just his brother was the one who
was helping him to not jump out of that window.

(01:58:02):
M Bloomberg reports the Carolina Panthers are going to go
for at least two and a half billion dollars when
the team is sold to a new buyer. That's at
least two and a half billion dollars. The report quote
sources who are familiar with the bids that have been submitted.
Now Forbes values the team at two point three billion dollars.
Just the two point five billion dollar price take Doug
would be the highest for an American sports franchise. Yeah,

(01:58:24):
of course, all this game after Terry Richardson sexual Harrison
complaints came out became public. Um, I know he's had
some health issues and maybe this is the plan all along,
but boy, there's sure seems like there's a correlation. This
just tells you how how how financially feasible those those
NFL teams are. Would you rather buy an NBA or

(01:58:45):
NFL team? Right? Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah. The
NFL Draft is coming to Fox this April. First two
days of the draft will air on Fox, would be
simulcast on the NFL Network of course. The draft taking
place in Arlington, Texas at AT and T Stadium Thursday
April through Saturday. April's at Stame. It's not a Jerry's world.
That that is that is Jerry's world. What's the what's

(01:59:08):
the new Star? No, it's at the at the Stadium.
I would have liked the Star better. The Star. You know,
they had the conferenists a basketball, they had the the
state championships in football. They're pretty amazing facility they have.
But look, this is this is the thing now. I
think eventually it'll get to l A and it'll stay
in l A. That'd be my guest. That's pretty cool.

(01:59:30):
Speaking of l A, this was revealed a day or
two ago, but the Dodgers are selling special tickets to
the seat where Kirk Gibson's home run landed in Game
one of the Night World Series. The seats has an
autograph of Gibson on it. Ticket sales of that seat
and the one next to it will benefit the Kirk
Gibson Foundation, which raises money for Parkinson's disease. As Gibson

(01:59:51):
revealed his diagnosis in That's crazy stuff. Um yeah, I
just don't know if I pay extremity to sinis where
a guy hit a home run back remember the home run.
I don't believe what I just saw. I don't believe
what I just saw. And that was the jack butck call,
I actually thought, uh that it was poetic, more poetic

(02:00:11):
what the goats said. Right, And in a season that
has given us the uh, the improbable, the impossible has happened, right, Um, Nonetheless,
I wouldn't pay the extra money. I like that. I
like the markings of where sports history happened. You know,
when we're in the Mall of America, did you see
the killer Brew chair on the wall. Yeah, that's where

(02:00:33):
Harmon Killer Brew hit a five foot home run at
um Build Metropolitan Stadium right there. Also in Atlanta, at
the old Fulton County Stadium, they have a brick infield
and they have the part of the fence where Hank
Aaron hit number seven fifteen, and so there's a wall
and there was it was actually a Turner Field parking

(02:00:53):
lot for a while. Know that the Braves Avenue Stadium.
I'm not sure what's there, Probably still a parking lot
because it's not a football stadium. But anyway, the point
being that they marked where Hank Aaron seft went so
you could go to that spot. In Atlanta, did in
fact digress right there? I think I think that's I
think that's neat for sports fans. Okay, anyway, Former NFL
quarterback and now broadcaster Tony Romo makes his PG Tour

(02:01:14):
debut in the Corrals Championship tomorrow in the Dominican Republic.
How do you think Tony's gonna fair tomorrow. You know
what he'll do really, really well, still the fourth round,
get out there and pressed. That was the press, at
which time he'll run around, run around, run around, and
then he'll completely three jack a putt that he needs
to make. He's going to tell what he's gonna do

(02:01:36):
with each shot before he hits. That's what he should
do tomorrow. That new gym Nance commercial is really good
where Jim Nance has Spike Lee is the Capital One
ad with Spike Lee and Samuel l and Charles Barkley there.
That's that's a very very good one. Uh. Nance listens
to the show occasionally. He told me as such. He

(02:01:56):
actually quoted. I was like, no, I listened to your show.
Come on, stop it. You're Jim Nance. And he's like, no,
I heard this and that, and I was like, oh, okay,
well thank you. I just now in addition to and
I just called you a liar, right, I just I
just mocked you and called you a liar. I apologize.
Did you say what are the chances to the show?
And I hate I hate when people go like I

(02:02:19):
love your show on ESPN. You're like, yeah, that was
six years ago. I think what you meant to say
is Jim Nance used to listen to the show. No
Jim Nance. He was flattered me. He was like, you
had this thing you said about it was actually about
the n c A. And then I heard you then
you had done and he quoted one of the guests,
and I was like, oh my god, you did listen.
And I don't picture Jim Nance doing the podcast thing right,

(02:02:40):
going like, no, just I'll just catching the podcast button, button, button.
There we go. I'm gonna sit down, listen to an
hour of Goblin. Check out the All Ball podcast that's available.
That's all basketball. It's got Dan dick Out, It's got
my brother telling recruiting, a couple of recruiting stories. How
does it really work? Does everybody actually ask for money?
Chris Beard, our interview with Chris Beard is on that,

(02:03:00):
and so is our interview with my boy Steve Lapp
as Lapp who called both of the Cincinnati and Xavier
choke jobs, I mean comebacks in those games. Jim Jackson
and an Freny Hardaway. Penny Hardaway maybe Little Penny joins
us tomorrow in the Dug Gottlip Show. Box Portradio

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