July 2, 2025 • 49 mins
On a Wednesday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug reacts to the news that the Knicks are about to sign former NBA Coach of the Year Mike Brown as their new head coach.
In this installment of The Midway, Doug and the crew discuss what they are most looking forward to seeing play out over the second half of the year.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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having a spectacular day. It is July the second. Yes,
it's July already. July already. That was for you there,
Jays too, Is it July already? I think you tweeted
at yesterday or the day before. Not really sure. So
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let's get after with the topic of the day. The
long search is over. Two time NBA Coach of the
Year Mike Brown is the new head coach of the
New York Knicks, and he does, in fact fit the bill.
And you're like, what do you mean fit the bill?
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There's a couple of things. First, like I said, here's
the amazing part about being a two time NBA Head
Coach of the Year. There's actually a trend with that
that he was fired a year after both times he
was NBA Coach of the Year. But I said previously
and I meant it that if you're going to replace
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Tom Thibodeau with another head coach, when Tibbs takes the
Knicks to the conference finals for the first time in
twenty five years, you have to replace with somebody who
has been to that level and beyond. The NBA on
some many levels is about respect. And you know there's
the catch twenty two of in order to have the
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respect to the locker room, you have to win in
the NBA. In order to win in the NBA, you
have to have the respect of the locker room. Well,
Mike Brown, if you remember, was the head coach of
the Cleveland Cavaliers. Remember when Lebron James and Booby Gibson
and others went to the NBA Finals early in Lebron's
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career and got swept. Who was the head coach? Then?
Mike Brown's the answer. So the problem is not in
selecting Mike Brown. The problem is very likely in the
execution or lack there of a plan. Now, can Brown
deal with James Dolan as a crazy owner per se? Yeah,
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he had Vivid Reneddive as his owner. How crazy is
Vivic grena dive the Veck g Renda DV owner of
the Kings, once upon a time coached his daughter's AAU team,
and they had a unique style where they pressed and
they left one young woman underneath their own basket so
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that every time they got the ball, they flung it
up the court, basically playing four on five on defense.
So they'd sacrificed that so they could get wide open
lamps on offense. And there was a time when he
actually wanted that strategy tried in the G League before
they could try it in the NBA. These words were
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set out loud in professional basketball offices and thought about,
and one coach was actually, I believe was fired because
of it because he didn't want to do it. He
wouldn't have anything of it. So if you could survive that,
you could survive Sacramento. And oh yeah, by the way,
he turned Sacramento from you know, from a desolate kind
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of wasteland of coaches, even with really good Mike Malone
was there, right, and they got rid of Mike Malone
to playing a fun up and down style. My guess
is that because Mike Brown's been to the finals, because
He's seen as a great dude, somebody who can work
with anybody, somebody who's won, but much more offensive minded.
My guess is he's the opposite of Tibbs, and Tibbs
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was I'm gonna do it my way, this way, we're
gonna do it. We're gonna do defense first, We're gonna
grind with our top seven guys, and if no one
else plays, that's fine. Mike Brown's like, hey, whatever, man,
let's just go out, have fun, run, score a bunch
of points, and you know, we'll figure it out at
the end. And it's worked some That's just a guess,
but he passes that bar of you can't fire a
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guy who took you to the conference finals unless you
hire somebody who's gone beyond the conference finals. So I
think because of where we started, where we get to
feels disappointed to some But when you take a breath
and go like, yeah, I mean, Tibbs had been successful
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the NBA, but it's not like he'd never been to
the conference finals before. It's not like he's set the
world on fire in the playoffs. It is a more
offensive mind the league. You do have to guard people.
Mike Brown had played you know, turned his style into
a wide open one. He's in Sacramento. It worked, it
was fun, people came, people watched, and the team was
relative is successful. He was successful with the Golden State
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Warriors during the interim stint and really well. He liked, well, liked.
And this is it's no different than when you're in
a relationship, right, you get married, you get divorced. Who's
the next woman you date? Well, if she was blonde,
sometimes it's the burnette. If she has short hair, now
it's long hair. If she's more passive, you get somebody
who's more aggressive. You date the opposite, or maybe you
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have a type and everybody you date looks exactly the
same and you just substitute in name tags. I don't know,
but most dudes, it feels like go from one you
know from from polar opposes, just like with just like
with coaches, you have Tibbs who's heavy handed, demanding, kind
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of gruff on his he it only works with his guys,
doesn't play a deep bench and wants to play defensive
minded ball. Regards to the fact that if you actually
watch Tim's team, they played pretty free, pretty easy on offense,
but persona wise, style wise seen as defensive first gritty mentality,
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you know, not a guy that constantly has a smile
on his face. And oh yeah, by the way, he
happens to be white. The Knicks hire a guy who'd
been slightly more successful in the playoffs but loved by
a lot of people. Super likable guy, play a fast style.
He happens to be black as well, and I'm guessing
plays more of his bench. And I actually think this
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becomes the year in which my dad used to tell
me something about guys that follow Bill Parcells, like that
first year you get there, still they still have in
grained in them all of the little discipline oriented things
that made Bill Parcells arguably the greatest coach of our
generation in the National Football League. But then it comes
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some of the kind of free spirit and oh the
dictator's gone. And that first year you actually kind of
get the best of both worlds. You get the new
energy combined with the discipline of Parcels. Now year two
it gets really hard because parcells stuff did in fact work,
the discipline was needed, and some of that disappears over time.
And I think that'll be a challenge to Mike Brown
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in the year two, but right now you're one. I
don't know. I don't hate it. I think the part
that's killing the Knicks is the perception. Right if you
fire a guy and the job is opening this song,
you couldn't get your first guy, you couldn't get your
second guy, you couldn't get your third guy. Well, they
end up getting the guy who's NBA Coach of the
Year two years ago, and it's happened to him twice.
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He's very familiar with the East. It actually makes sense
if if you take out, you know, you take out
the the guys they tried to talk to. The timing
and how TIBs was fired, all of those things. Byer,
does it make sense to you, Dan Byer?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I mean you've this search didn't make sense. But the hiring, ultimately,
I think is fine. I think you can point your
point about the time in Sacramento and we've seen kind
of how that organization is completely revamped itself from that
playoff year that were just a couple of seasons removed
from where they took the Warriors to seven games, and
you can you can blame it on ownership, or you
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could blame it on what was going on in the
front office and not have Mike Brown take any other responsibility.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
So yeah, it was it was fine.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I just the search process of them going to all
the other teams when you had a Mike Brown out there,
when you had a Taylor Jenkins who you also spoke with.
I don't think they even talked with Michael Malone. But
so that that whole deal was the search was crazy.
But ultimately you get Mike Brown.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Fine. Higher. I don't know if it's a loteral move,
but it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, I I that's it. It's this is the airs
withould Like It's like when you on a basketball team
runs an offensive set, nobody executes it particularly well, and
then they jump up and knock down a shot and
you're like, eh, yeah, good coaching, you know. Yeah, So
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that's what the Knicks did, right. The Knicks passed the
ball around a bunch of times, guys dribbled it, dribble it,
dribble it. What are we doing? And then they throw
it to Jail and Bruns and he throws in a
questionable shot. He goes in and you're like, hey, good job.
I'm probably too close to it because I know Mike
really well. I think he's a fantastic guy. I think
he you know, the the Laker stint was he probably
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butchered trying to bring in Eddie Jordan to run Princeton
style offense. It was a great thought. He got to
clear it with Kobe Bryant if you want to work.
But again, Mike's been around it long enough, yeah, you know,
to have learned from his mistakes and how to handle it.
And look, maybe it's what got him fired in Sacramento.
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Remember the waning days of his time in Sacramento. He
was He pointed out that Daron Fox kind of butchered
something late in the game, said that to the media,
and then supposedly Darren Fox was unhappy. Then he gets fired,
and then Darren Fox like, why'd Darren Fox? Like, why'd
you fire him? I liked him? Why'd you fire him?
And then Darreon Fox gets traded.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, like I almost give him a pass, honestly,
And I know that. Like his Coach of the Year
honors were with Lebron and the Calves and with the
well it wasn't one with the Lakers, but said him. Think,
but the point is it's tough to coach superstars as well.
So like, if you're gonna look at him and say
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what kind of coaches he, I would look at the
Sacramento tenure more than I would the other two.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Or you could say, remember he got fired after a
fifty one win season with the Cleveland Cavaliers, right when
they lost to the Boston Celtics in the playoffs. And
then when they fired him, they again, the Calves thought
they were firing him because Lebron didn't like him, And
Lebron may not have liked him, but it didn't stop
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Lebron from leaving and going to Miami. Those two things
go inside with each other. Yeah, Jase do so?
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Can we drove down on something that Buyer brought up?
And you brought it up a couple of weeks ago too,
and I agree. You know, the Knicks took this kind
of like you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs
kind of thing to the offseason, and I'm guessing they
pissed off a bunch of teams, like trade partners, Like
how if they ultimately landed on a guy who was
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a free agent to begin with, didn't they piss off
trade partners along the way? Aren't they aren't teams less?
Likely to deal with the Knicks now because they caused
this disturbance with their head coaches and it forced them
to have to pay their head coaches or it forced
them to have this these public acknowledgements. Isn't there a
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a net negative here?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Maybe? Maybe, but one it's not show friends as show business. Secondly,
I think the easy landing place if you did feel
like there were feelings that were hurt, is hey, we
could have gone and talked to those guys without clearing
with you. We didn't have to do that right, Like
we could have done the agent thing where we talked
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to the agent and never actually you know, make the
formal ask so we can say we did the right thing.
I think it's more, yeah, you fire tips and people
get excited, and this happens in all coaching jobs. Like
if Mike Brown's name the head coach, like yeah, I
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like Mike Brownie's fine, Like like Dan said, like be fine.
But if you fired tips, you're like, ooh, they got
to have something big going on, you know, And it's
it's a lot like you say, hey, listen, we turned down.
You know, Brad Pitt wanted this role. We told him,
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like we didn't think he was a good fake, like, oh,
you turned down Brad Pitt. Okay, well that means you're
going after somebody really really big and they end up
getting kind of a solid B list actor and like, really,
that's that's it, right.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Multiple coaches got contract extensions or modified contracts because the
Knicks wanted to talk to them. Billy Donovan in Chicago
was the one that really stood out.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah they screwed Chicago.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah yeah, where they get a trade with Chicago anyway?
Does it matter anyway? Maybe? You know, maybe I don't know.
Does it hurt your trade partners? I guess you know.
I don't think anybody's gonna call them and hand them
Luka Doncic the way that the way that the Mavericks
handed him to the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Yes, yes, Sam, I'm just curious if we'll have another
moment like this like Mike Brown had in front of
the Sacramento media where he really drilled down on the
importance of possessions.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Just need to be methodical, I'm stacking or playing the
right way. Possession after possession, after possession, What about the
next after possession and the next after possession? Okay, after
possession after possession after possession, after possession.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
How do you think the New York media would take
something like that?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
They would play it probably fifteen or twenty times over
and over and over and over and over again. Yes, yes,
I will. I'm gonna warn everybody. The crew is kind
of in a mood we had. You're gonna want to
listen to the podcast. It's a great discussion about circumcision
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in the podcast. That just I'll leave it at that.
I cut my remark short, so we did there, cut
my right short. The crew is in a bit of
a mood, and it's a good mood, but it's definitely
like a snappy, kind of like fun, sarcastic mood. So again,
just throwing that warning out to you. If you're listening today.
Dan's got on a good looking golf shirt. That means
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he's probably hitting the links after the show.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
That's just a guess, Dan, Or yeah, the laundry was
not completed.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, I forgot to Dan.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
That shirt makes me want to eat orange Sherbet's bright.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Can you also clean up trash? Inside of the road.
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He's not getting the middle It's time.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
For So what's the midway? You ask yourself? Thanks so
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It's Wednesday, middle of the day. I don't know. It's
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one on the west, four on the east. You know
your day doesn't end at five anymore, and it's the
middle of the show. We call it the midway. Can
be any topic, Jay Stu, what's the midway?
Speaker 8 (17:14):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I did want to make this is a special midway today.
I saw this note and I'm like, man, this is
this is almost written for the Doug Gottlieb Show. Whoever,
whoever took the time to post this must be a listener.
This is what PMT Stats and Info posted this morning.
July second, twenty twenty five is exactly the middle of
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the year, which means from this day moving forward will
be closer to twenty fifty than we were two thousand. So, Doug,
not only are we in the middle of the day,
in the middle of the show, we're in the very
middle of twenty twenty five and to this tweets, I
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guess sentiment, we are in the middle of the half century.
We are right in the middle of our half century.
To me, these these things are more than coincidences. Really,
this is why we have the Midway to discuss topics
of the day and have a good time with them.
Today I threw out on the group text, since we
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are at the very middle of the year, what storylines
are you looking forward to following for the rest of
the calendar year. I saw exactly zero comments about it,
so I'm assuming that's what we're good with me.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, it's good with me.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yeah, yes, no need to change.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
No, I thought it was outstanding. I didn't want to
give away an idea because I think, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
No.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
The one good thing about the twenty five years is
if we were to do that angle, like what are
we looking for the next twenty five years? All of
the US open sites have been basically set from now
and so there's only like four open So thanks a
lot USGA for that one.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Redict. Sorry just to golf take it's it's like the
Marvel movie schedule coming out, like fifteen years ago, and
they're like, these are all the Marvel movies we're gonna
make over the next twenty years. Yeah, like, okay, thanks
for the surprise, Thank thanks for giving everybody else a chance.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
That's not By the way, has anybody seen F one?
Speaker 8 (19:15):
Is it out?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
The movie? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:17):
It did very well except first weekend. Yeah, I've not
seen it.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
S Brad Pitt combined with the guy that made Top
Gun Maverick. What could go wrong? Right, Brad Pitt who
got it? Still got it?
Speaker 8 (19:29):
Here's what could go wrong?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Go ahead? Can you say it? Jay stew I I
don't know if I should say it as a college
basketball coach. Brad's Pitt still still got it? You know
what's in the bar? No?
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Not that, No, No, I just movie drop from Brad.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Say, Brad Pitt's still hot.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Yeah, he's like sixty one, I think something like that.
No way, Yeah he's in the sixties.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yes he is.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Brad Pitt is sixty one years old.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
He's gorgeous too, He's gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, he's good looking man.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
He is sixty one. He'll in December and he was
a bee.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Wow. Huh.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
I would love I would love to fall into Brad's
pit pause.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Apparently I don't know if you do.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Let's move on, Okay, things I'm looking forward to later
on this year, not Brad Spit, Not Brad spin I'm sorry,
I'm going to say it. I know it feels like
prisoner of the moment. I want to see the Aaron
Rodgers thing in Pittsburgh. I'm with you there, just I
just do like it's his last year. They're kind of
acting on Pittsburgh like a motivated Aaron Rodgers is usually
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pretty good, but he wasn't very good half the year.
He succeeds, he fails as a player. You know, he's
going to say it doesn't matter because it's bigger than that,
it's a spiritual journey or whatever. But like it's really
going to be a kind of how you end your career.
Sometimes defines a little bit of your career. It doesn't, right,
Peyton Manning, he won a Super Bowl, but I mean
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he was bad and he really kind of got pulled
old midway through the season. Brady's last year, they weren't
particularly good. He was okay, not really enthused in like,
you know who's playing with and playing poor. But I
want to see what Aaron Rodgers does this year. I'm
that's a storyline I want to pay attention to.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Well, there's going to be that kind of weekly thing too, right,
because like it's going to be interesting to see the
first time Aaron Rodgers does something on McAfee that directly
contradicts what Mike Tomlins said on Sunday night, like tom
and will do one of his we want volunteers and
not hostages, and then Aaron Rodgers will go on McAfee
and be like, no, no, no, we need that guy. I
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don't care what he just did on Sunday. We need
that guy. He's important to the team. He'll like, he'll
do things that will just directly contradict the head coach.
That's a part of his brand, and it's going to
be interesting. Given the amount of respect that each of
these two guys have.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
It's pretty amazing because they're going to spend seven months
with each other.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
That's what that's that's what it is. That's not even
a school year.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
July.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
I don't even think the Dan points out, I don't
even think the NBA playoffs are shorter than seven months.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Okay, So that's that's one. That's one Dan you go.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
So Jason Stewart last year pointed out many times and
he was right about this on how he was intrigued
about the Kansas City Chiefs going for a three peat.
And I don't think that that story got enough run
because of the greatness of the Chiefs. Now they fell
a game short, we get tired of them. So now
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that they've lost this Super Bowl, I am curious to
see on how they do rebound because the last time
that they lost the Super Bowl, they did not make
it back the next year. Granted Cincinnati had to have
a crazy AFC Championship game in Kansas City to beat.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Them, but still they did not return.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
And I am curious to see on if that Super
Bowl game was a sign of things to come or
just a mirage that has fixed this offseason with a
rededicated Travis Kelcey and whatnot. So I will carry that
Chiefs banner. I continue to think that that story in
Kansas City teetering on which way is gonna go, It's
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gonna be very interesting.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
This fall, Chase do, I'm gonna keep it local.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I think the Dodgers baseball story this coming October is
one of the most intriguing baseball stories that we've seen.
How many different World Series champions have there been in
the past eight years? I want to say eight eight
because I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I believe it's eight.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
And coming off an off season where you're like, are
the Dodgers bad for baseball? And how stupid a notion
that is being a team or the first team to
repeat in quite some time, I think is a is
just like a Dan just pointed out, it's kind of
like the chief story like this is this is an
intriguing thing to follow if you like the Dodgers or not.
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In fact, if you hate the Dodgers, it's even more interesting.
Can they repeat? They have the most talented team, they
have the biggest payroll, And I'm gonna be following closely
as a Dodger fan and a strong critic of Andrew Friedman.
So the storyline I'm looking forward to most the second
half of twenty twenty five the Los Angeles Dodgers in October.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Sam just briefly going back to that Aaron Rodgers topic.
I am curious if midway through the season, Aaron Rodgers
will ask Mike Tomlin if he could bring in Alan
Lizard and Randall Cobb for help, just gonna dust them off.
Let's throw out Randall Cobblizard out there.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
Let's get it.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Get those guys catching balls. No, actually had a couple
in mind, but I am curious if this is going
to be a by the end of the year, a
sophomore slump for Caitlin Clark. You can define a slump
a sophomore slump in a lot of ways. Sometimes it's
just pet poor shootings. Sometimes it's injury. Sometimes it's both.
And right now she has the growing issue and her
shooting has been an issue. But this Fever team has
actually had some really, really impressive wins. They obviously beat
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the Links last night in Minneapolis to win the Commissioner's Cup.
They had the best record in the w NBA coming
into that game. They took the bloom off the Rows
at the New York Liberty and beat them for the
first time. They won at Seattle, so the team is
able to win without her. I think clearly we need
to have KAITLYNK Clark playing again.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Uh just hold on a second, put a pause on
your uh your script.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
Did you just refer to the Fever as we you
just said we?
Speaker 5 (25:38):
I don't think I did it.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, it was a week.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
Well, we'll replay that, we'll your script, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Do we care? I'm just I don't. Who cares?
Speaker 8 (25:47):
Oh, Doug has a problem with people saying, right, but.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I don't like hardcore fantasy. We but like the n
w NBA Fever team. You're from Iowa, you just started fall.
You're clearly a Caitlyn Clark putting at it.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I don't remember saying go to be here.
Speaker 8 (26:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Not usually one guy. I'm a me guy.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
But all right, yeah, okay, I gotta I got a
couple of here, a couple here. First of all, I
do have we talked about this in the pod, and
I have received work. Okay, this is not breaking news.
But I've been led to believe that Caitlin Clark will
not take a penny of the money from the Commissioner's
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Cup that the team received and will break up. I
think she's like, hey, I didn't play. Let team personnel
get it. The people who make the least get it.
That's what I've been told.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
That's nice.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Wait where are you getting that?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I just sources, layers close to the situation have led
me to believe that is not a confirmed report.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
That's just looking out. Yeah, that's great, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yes, and probably, honestly, she probably would have done it
if she would have played as well.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I honestly, it's it's a drop in the bucket to
what she makes. Yeah, Mamba shoes sold out like that.
She's really, really bright woman.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
She played, She played in certain games that helped them
get to the Commissioner's Cup Championship. I opined earlier that
maybe she could give her money away to her teammates,
because they did go out there, her teammates.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I don't know if she gave her teammates. I think
it's the team personnel.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
I don't I've not heard that from anybody, but just
myself thinking that maybe she could do people.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah, can we.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Get to the here's the things we're looking forward to.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
We have I.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Mentioned before we get there. Before we get there, I
did want to I have evidentiary. Evidentiary what's the word proof?
Iowa say, I'm just three minutes ago talking about his fever.
You have me up on the computer?
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Sound, oh, go ahead, Yeah, So the team is able
to win without her? I think clearly we need to
have Kaitlyn Clark playing. I'm talking about his sports dude.
Come on, I'm talking about sports fans. You need to
have Clark pack. You know what, we fever fans.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I'm actually gonna go to Sam on this, Sam, Sam,
I got your back here. I'll catch you in this
tress fall.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Okay, thank you, guys, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
No listen, because he meant we as sports fans, we
need to have Kayla Clark because otherwise we don't care.
Starting to about Sophie Cunningham, but.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
We Sophie Stunningham, Sophie stunning Okay, I've been vindicated. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I know you're gonna say Ohio State, but I'm gonna
say arch.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Manning, right, Yeah, I'm glad you weren't there. Yeah arch Manning.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Like again, part of me feels bad for the kid,
all right, but part of me is like, hey, dude,
you're the dude. You're gonna put yourself man in the arena. Now,
the quarterback of Texas Texas, right they spent didn't They
spend three million dollars on his visit supposedly, right, Like
this is that's like all time, Johnny be good levels
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our archbanding quarterback of.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Texas there there.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I think, I'm so glad you brought that up because
I think that he is far and away the biggest
story in college football. And it's also because I think
there are stories that are lacking in college football. And
I'm going to bring up a topic that we kind
of talked about last year. Do you remember I was
not high in Alabama? Remember, like they you know, they
went to Madison, they took care of what Wisconsin and
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you're like, oh, it's Alabama's Alabama. Alabama's not Alabama when
Nick Saban isn't there, And there was intrigue because you
think that maybe that team's going to keep rolling with
Caitlin de Boorr.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
But it ended up not being the case.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
They don't even make they don't even make the playoffs,
So now Alabama isn't Alabama anymore. Ohio State's got a
you know, a bunch of new faces on offense outside
of Jeremiah Smith that you have to replace.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Oklahoma stinks spinks.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, Penn State is maybe the second biggest story I
think because if not now, when for them, like finally,
even though they made it to the semi final last year,
it's kind of a all right, let's see it, James Franklin,
Let's win that big game. And but other than that,
you know, I have a tough time in getting a
lot of buzz about the college football season. I think
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arch Manning is the story far and away in college football.
And they open up at Ohio State just to start
the season. So that's the game that everybody's gonna be
looking at.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
How do we feel in what late December? I guess
about because we had a lot of problems with how
teams were seeded in the first twelve team playoff, and
now we're going to try to correct those errors and
not have it like a Boise State be like have
a buye. You know, we need to correct those things.
So I think that the makeup of the playoff will
be interesting. See how we do it this time around,
maybe trying to correct some of those mistakes from last year.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, it's not a great There's not tons of momentum
for college football right now.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Do you see the big twelves getting rid of pre
season polls because like Arizona State was picked to finish
whatever way deep into the conference in the end of winning.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
It, camstat I'll tell you what though, that's what makes
the story great.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Agreed.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I love preseason polls. It's just talking fodder though you know,
it's just yeah, yeah, but to talk about it at least, but.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
It gets us talking about it. Yes, yeah, I'm with Dan.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
So what you think that it's good it went away
or you should keep it?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
No, they're dumb because nobody knows, Like most teams have
entirely new teams, so it's really hard. Like people ask
them all the time, like what's your league gonna look like?
Like I don't know of in my league in the
Horizon League in basketball, the top twenty five scores too
are back. I have one of them, and we're the
worst team. So, I mean, you know, it's crazy. Okay,
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So we got college football, we got NFL.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
There's also gonna be a good Rider Cup at H
so that'll be a good weekend in late September. H.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I mean, anybody, anybody else wonder like I don't think
they'll trade him, but what if Lebron gets traded? Thunder
at least interesting? Uh, But I thought that was a
pretty good midway chase. Do anything else?
Speaker 8 (32:21):
Nope, we got Daniel Jeremiah here.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Great, we'll ask him what he's most looking forward to
that is The Midway.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
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Speaker 1 (32:39):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. Fox Sports Radio. I mean this.
According to the Athletic stand Waiki, Lakers are already targeting
Al Horford. His call is A colleague Sam Ameck, who's
also from the Athletic said that the Warriors are too
Warriors could end up they could end up a key
(33:00):
piece in the battle for a thirty nine year old center. Again,
my my thing is this, Like DeAndre Ayton is DeAndre
at officially a Laker? Dan Bayer did he Did he
sign with the Lakers?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
No. No, again, that was supposedly he was. They were
one of the final teams. It's like DeAndre Ayton, I
I look, I understand what Lebron's people are kind of saying, like, hey,
they're kind of threwed here, right not gonna probably not
gonna win a title this year. And I don't understand Ayton.
(33:39):
I don't understand Horford. Like, the best thing Luca does
is come off of pick and roll and either score it,
pass it, or throw a lob. And you have to
have a lob threat. And they don't seem to like Jack,
say so, why aren't they going after that type of center?
You know who might know? Frank Iola, He joins us
(33:59):
down in the Doug Gottlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Of course, longtime NBA writer. You see him on ESPN,
Herb of the Yes Network, on Serious XM as well.
He joins us now on Fox Sports Radio. What was
your opinion this would have been like a backward around
the horn existed great around the horn topic. Lebron James's
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agent comes out and is like, hey, Lebron wants to
win a championship, so we're going to explore our options
after he just re ups with the Lakers with the
player option. Was what was your read on that?
Speaker 9 (34:32):
Yeah, well, first of all, don't be hating DeAndre, all right,
we'll start there. I do think it's funny. I always
love that he's monitoring the situation. Well, guess what, somebody
break the news to him that the Lakers just signed
the guy that's gonna be forty one on December thirtieth
to a fifty three dour contract, which which kind of
hurts him a little bit. I'm not telling him to
take less he could. Obviously he's earned the right to
(34:53):
do that. That's in his contract. But you mentioned it.
The biggest issue that the Lakers have is that they're
in the Western Conference and you were talking about centers
that they can get. You know, Nick Claxton would certainly
fill the bill. I don't think he's been traded yet,
like he would be available from the Nets. But you know,
the Lakers are going to have to give up a
first round pick if they if they want to acquire
Nick Claxon. But Lebron's in a tough situation. You know,
(35:15):
it's amazing that we're still talking about the guy after
after all these years. The best thing for him would
be to figure out a way to come to the
Eastern Conference, Like I don't know why Kevin Durant didn't
try to do that. All the teams are in the
West while the East is wide open right now?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, okay, so the East is wide open. The New
York knicks Hire Mike Brown, what do you think of
the higher Well?
Speaker 9 (35:41):
I like Mike Brown a lot and obviously as a good,
you know, record you know, he got to coach Lebron
a lot in Cleveland, which which certainly helps. It's it's
strange because you know, you go out and you made
it to the conference finals first time in twenty five years,
and then they decide to get rid of their coach.
And I think they're targeted for a long time was
Jason Kidd, And you know, I think that's why it's
(36:03):
probably dragged on as long as they did. They tried
to get Jason Kidd. You know, they couldn't eve get
permission to speak to him, and then you know they
did talk to the Rockets. They tried. So they went
after four four coaches that we know of that are
under contract. So if you're doing that, come on, Doug,
if you're getting if you're trying to talk together a
turty in the contract, that's the guys that are hiring.
So it sounds like that Mike Brown at best would
(36:25):
have been their fifth choice. But you know that doesn't
make them the wrong choice. And you know, many years ago,
I think it was you know, all the way back
in ninety six. I know it's ancient history, but you know,
when Joe Torrey got hired by the Yankees, nobody thought
it was a good hire than the next thing. You know,
he's part of a dynasty there. Mike Brown's walking into
a good situation. Like he just said, wide open the East.
The Knicks do have a talented roster, but there's gonna
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be a lot of pressure on them. The nixt won
ten playoff games last year. I mean this past season
the most since ninety nine. They made the conference finals
first time since two thousands. Of the expectations like the
pressure are going to be through the roof.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, I I tend to agree there. Kevin Durant to Houston,
Houston's made a lot of moves. Several people like it.
What do you think about Houston and their evolution?
Speaker 9 (37:12):
I like it a lot. I kind of I always
thought would they try to make a run at Devin Booker,
you know, for Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant still has in
my opinion, a lot left. The problem is can he
stay healthy? And we did have a really I thought
the season overall was disappointing because they didn't get at
the take place in the Western Conference. But you know,
Imodoko was an assistant coach in Brooklyn when Kevin Durant
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was there, so they have a relationship. I think they
have a really good young nucleus around them, especially the
kid Thompson, who's terrific. They got some toughness with guys
like Fred van Fleet and what you like about the Rockets.
Now they still have the assets to make a run
at Giannis if and when, you know, Jannis does become
available and wants out of Milwaukee. So I think it
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works out well for Kevin Durant. The one thing about
Kevin Durant which I don't understand, I still tie it
to like not being married, not having kids. If he
had that, he'd be like the rest of us. He'd
be kind of miserable. So he spends most of his
time being miserable about silly things like fighting people on
social media and things like that. Like Kevin Durant never
seems to be happy. I don't get it. I mean,
even just recently you look at some of his social
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media activity, just like go going after people. I don't
understand it for like a guy that I mean, I
don't know. You look across sports, like the all time
grades in any sport, whether it's tennis, football, basketball, soccer,
Like an all time grader they really just randomly calling
after people on social media. I don't understand that part
about Kevin Durant. But when it as it relates to
how good Houston could be, I mean, come on, Doug.
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They were the second seed last year, they won fifty
two games. There were a young team. I get it.
They got knocked out in the Game seven by Golden State.
But they're going to be a legit contender in the
Western Conference.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I agree. I actually think the NBA. I think the
Texas teams are loaded for battle. I mean, I don't
know what Kyrie's looks like when he comes off the
knee injury, but the rest of that roster looks really,
really athletic and can really defend. The Spurs. They still
may be a year or two away, but it's it's
not that far away. You got obviously Oklahoma City. I
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know that's a different state, but it's right there in
that same corridor, and then the Houston Rockets. It's those
four are where the players and the draft picks and
the future seems to seems to live in the NBA.
What about Giannis, Is this the offseason that he gets moved?
Speaker 9 (39:23):
I don't think so, because I don't think they make
a move like that. I'm not buying this idea that
he was unhappy, that the Milwaukee Bucks are really making
a seismic move like that without Giannis knowing about it.
To me, that that move from Miles Turner and releasing
Damian Lillard, that's Milwaukee saying we're really going to roll
the dice here. We have the best player in the
Eastern Conference, the Eastern Conference about Jason Tatum, and without
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Tyres Haliburt for the time being, looks like, you know,
we have you know, we could make a run here.
So I don't think it'll be this season, you know,
trades like that. I mean, I know Luca got traded
before the deadline this year, but any trade like that
with the honest would usually would probably take place before
the draft. So I think I think Milwaukee and Giannis
are going to be together for at least a year.
(40:07):
Know that that could all change by you know, right
around the draft next June. But I think now he's
going to be in and to his credit, you know,
he he is loyal to the city and the franchise.
You know they drafted I mean, it was a skinny
guy out of Greece, nobody knew about. He turned into
a man there, had incredible success. I mean, you know this,
(40:27):
the arena, the you know the arena there, you know
a lot of the downtown area, that Deer District. A
lot of that has to do with the honest he
really changed the brand of the Milwaukee Bucks, and it
would be a big deal for them to trade them.
I think it would be a big deal for him
to get traded. But I think I think Milwaukee realizes.
You look at San Antonio, you look at Houston, they
have assets. Look at what the Brooklyn Mets have done
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with all the assets they have there. The Golden State
Wars could potentially be in play. The Miami Heat would,
you know, be a lot of the usual suspect. But
I think I think the Bucks, if and when that
more to come, I think they would do right by Yannis.
I think he would do right by them and not
make it. I'm sure he'd probably identify a few teams
and they would just try to get the best assets
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that they could.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Stutg Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Trader, that's the
voice of Frank Isola. Frank, Look, obviously we want to
talk NBA's big NBA free agency time. But what are
your thoughts on where the w NBA is now with
their handling. I mean, you just had the women's the
(41:31):
player's poll for the All Star Game had Caitlin Clark
as the ninth best guard in the league. Now again,
I'm I don't watch enough w NBA to tell you
if she's first or second or maybe ninth, but ninth
does seem a little low. And it's the narrative of
they just don't like her. They don't like her even
(41:53):
though she's helping them all get rich. What's your read
on what's going on in the w.
Speaker 9 (41:58):
Well, the only thing that said about the players in
the WNBA in this case, I think, you know, every
year the NBA does the same thing where the fan
vote means the most, which they should just let the
fans this fans game, whoever they voted into the game, whatever,
Let the fans have it. It's there, it's their game.
But the you know, the fans, I think would have half,
you know, half of the vote would be for the
fans in the media, and the players would have the
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you know, would make up the other twenty five percent.
He's gonna get twenty five and the NBA players a
lot of times. Would you know, there were times when
the media voted Lebron and Kevin Durant unanimously as All
Star starters and the players didn't. They had guys from
like all over the place. So some of that I
have to take with a grain of salt. I still
think a lot of it goes back to last season.
I think the league set a bad tone by not
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putting on the Olympic team Cheryl Reeves. But you know,
the national team coach, who's the Minnesota coach, came out
with a tweet before the first preseason game and she
took a little dig at caately Leclark. I do think
if David Stern were around, he would have called up
Cheryl Reeves and basically told her stop tweeting about Caitlin Clark.
And it would have called the USA Basketball and said,
we know that Caitlin Clark is going to be on
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this team, right and they would have put her on
the team. So I think the way that she came
into the league, I mean, look at Page Beckers her
you know, entrance into the league wasn't nearly I think,
you know, it wasn't nearly as many minefields as Caitlin
Clark had. But come on, Doug, you know this. If
Duke runs men's basketball, they're you know, they're everywhere in
the NBA, and Yukon runs women's basketball. It's just the
(43:27):
way it is, and it just so happens. You know,
Grant Hill is the executive director of the men's national team,
and it's Sue I think believe now it's Sue Verd
is the executive director of the women's national team. So
that's pretty powerful. My thing is, if Kaitlin Clark went
to Yukon, none of this stuff would be going on.
She would have been on the national team and she
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wouldn't be catching as much grief as she catches. I
think it's unfortunately. I think the problem that the w
NBA players have that NBA players don't have. NBA players
understand marketing, and they understand economics and they have common sense.
I think a lot of the players in the NBA
need to take an economics one on one course, a
common sense one on one course, and a marketing one
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on one course to really understand that. I think they're
fighting something which they don't. It's not in their best interest,
but for some reason they keep fighting.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
That's Frank I Sola. You hear him on Serius XM,
NBA Radio, you see him on ESPN, you see him
on s n Y, you see him all over. He
does a great job. Frank, you're the best man. Have
an absolutely great fourth July, and thank you for being
our guest.
Speaker 9 (44:33):
You too, Doug, take care of you.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Ah, it's Dog Gottlieb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio. That's
my guy, Dan Bayer. Oh so I'm doing I'm what
we're doing? Cow hurt on the fourth? Is that right?
Jay stew Are you doing that with me? Or are
you off? So I think I asked if you're doing it?
Speaker 8 (44:57):
Uh, hurt on the fourth and I'll be working, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
And then Dan, are you doing my show or are
you off? Or are we doing the herd with me?
Speaker 4 (45:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (45:04):
I'm not doing the hard I'm doing your show.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Okay, So you'll hear Dan next couple of days. This
is just an interesting one to me. Are you guys? Fireworks?
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Now, I know you live in southern California, so you
can't really buy I mean legally the same fireworks you
can buy. But do you still enjoy a good you know,
semi street legal explosion.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
I've become more and more. I loved it when I
was a kid. Then I don't know if I just
became too cool for school, like in my teens and twenties,
but I do appreciate them. Obviously there's dangers with fires
and possible injuries, but I have enjoyed them more, I
could say, probably for the last decade or so.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
Jase, do I think fireworks are first simpletons unless you're
a child. I think that people are who are motivated
to do fireworks or watch fireworks are just simple in nature.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
I love fireworks.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Simple. Dan's what they call me?
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Simple, simple dog. I'm just simple, all right, Sammy. What
about you?
Speaker 5 (46:08):
I'm with Dan? I simple?
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Sam?
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Well, sweet Dan?
Speaker 6 (46:11):
Was your.
Speaker 5 (46:13):
Was your takeaway that you actually like it more now
in the last ten years, like you went through that hole?
Speaker 3 (46:17):
Yeah? I just yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
I think when I was a teenager and and you know,
my twenties is just like you know, like, what's that
I'm yeah, too cool? And now I have a little
bit more of an appreciation.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
I would say that I loved it as a kid
meant a lot. Fourth July, I meant a lot to me.
We used I used to go down to Missouri with
my mom and buy fireworks, bring it back to our
our rural farm in Iowa and shoot them off, have fun.
I think now as an adult, I'm, you know, like,
occasional fireworks show is fun. But you know, I think
what I was really against drones in general. But drone
shows are very cool and they don't spook veterans. They
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don't spook dogs or bees or birds. They can do
really cool stuff. But I will say some this rule
fireworks warehouse in California. I put this on Twitter and
I was Sam ninety nine. If you want to check
it out. This is a helicopter hovering over this fireworks
warehouse somewhere in California and County Yolo. Yeah, Yolo County,
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very fitting. You only live once, so don't blow your
fingers off. So it was smoking and all of a sudden,
just this massive Hollywood style explosion. It was wild. So
check that out. But yeah, fireworks are cool once in
a while, but you kind of get you see enough shows,
you're like, right, well.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
The fireworks shows are different that now looks some of
the fireworks shows are better than they used to be.
I agree with you on drone shows firework shows. I
am one of those, like, can we just get the finale, Like,
just give me. I'd rather have fireworks five minutes of
the finale than thirty minutes with a two minute finale.
But but and I I actually agree with Jason. But
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I think that's why we like it. Right, It's like
a it's like a primal thing. Yes, it's simple. We
like blowing stuff up. Now, I don't actually like the
ones that blow stuff up, the M one thousands or whatever.
You know, the M eights go to M one thousands
and they are little mini sticks of dynamite. It can
be fun, but I really like the ones that fire
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stuff up.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yes, I love four seasons. Yeah, the one that goes
you know, white to yellow to green to red and
then putters out.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
It is It's also an interesting cottage industry, right. It's
like could be the same people to do like Christmas
trais like pumpkin pumpkin patch, Christmas tree sales, and fireworks, right,
and those people like only work a couple weeks out
of the year, and each of those.
Speaker 5 (48:37):
Things and their carnies, well they're also travel a way.
They're like also in states where they're illegal, which I
never like understood, Like there are fireworks stores where fireworks
aren't legal, and I've always undered what the It goes
back to that Joe Dirt scene where he's like, uh no, Cirril,
we only have snakes and sparklers. It's like where all
(48:59):
your your fud ruckers and your your your belly blasters
and your your feed ripples. By the way, that stuff
is expensive.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
It's it's expensive. It's also sneaky expensive. Yes, it is
steaky expensive.
Speaker 8 (49:10):
Do you guys?
Speaker 5 (49:11):
Do you guys like the I was obsessed as a
kid with those fireworks. They would fire out the little
parrot chute guy, they would come sprinkling down. Then you
could go catch run after it and catch it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
I think part of part of my love for it
is in California didn't have them, didn't.
Speaker 5 (49:24):
You didn't have the fun like personal foul.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
We had like flowers and then you had to like
peel off the flowers if you want to make something,
and yeah, then you had to get the one.
Speaker 5 (49:33):
Tanks, tanks and boats were fun, fire little cannons and stuff.
Speaker 6 (49:38):
Good.
Speaker 9 (49:38):
Thanks
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(00:29):
having a spectacular day. It is July the second. Yes,
it's July already. July already. That was for you there,
Jays too, Is it July already? I think you tweeted
at yesterday or the day before. Not really sure. So
(00:51):
let's get after with the topic of the day. The
long search is over. Two time NBA Coach of the
Year Mike Brown is the new head coach of the
New York Knicks, and he does, in fact fit the bill.
And you're like, what do you mean fit the bill?
(01:13):
There's a couple of things. First, like I said, here's
the amazing part about being a two time NBA Head
Coach of the Year. There's actually a trend with that
that he was fired a year after both times he
was NBA Coach of the Year. But I said previously
and I meant it that if you're going to replace
(01:34):
Tom Thibodeau with another head coach, when Tibbs takes the
Knicks to the conference finals for the first time in
twenty five years, you have to replace with somebody who
has been to that level and beyond. The NBA on
some many levels is about respect. And you know there's
the catch twenty two of in order to have the
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respect to the locker room, you have to win in
the NBA. In order to win in the NBA, you
have to have the respect of the locker room. Well,
Mike Brown, if you remember, was the head coach of
the Cleveland Cavaliers. Remember when Lebron James and Booby Gibson
and others went to the NBA Finals early in Lebron's
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career and got swept. Who was the head coach? Then?
Mike Brown's the answer. So the problem is not in
selecting Mike Brown. The problem is very likely in the
execution or lack there of a plan. Now, can Brown
deal with James Dolan as a crazy owner per se? Yeah,
(02:41):
he had Vivid Reneddive as his owner. How crazy is
Vivic grena dive the Veck g Renda DV owner of
the Kings, once upon a time coached his daughter's AAU team,
and they had a unique style where they pressed and
they left one young woman underneath their own basket so
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that every time they got the ball, they flung it
up the court, basically playing four on five on defense.
So they'd sacrificed that so they could get wide open
lamps on offense. And there was a time when he
actually wanted that strategy tried in the G League before
they could try it in the NBA. These words were
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set out loud in professional basketball offices and thought about,
and one coach was actually, I believe was fired because
of it because he didn't want to do it. He
wouldn't have anything of it. So if you could survive that,
you could survive Sacramento. And oh yeah, by the way,
he turned Sacramento from you know, from a desolate kind
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of wasteland of coaches, even with really good Mike Malone
was there, right, and they got rid of Mike Malone
to playing a fun up and down style. My guess
is that because Mike Brown's been to the finals, because
He's seen as a great dude, somebody who can work
with anybody, somebody who's won, but much more offensive minded.
My guess is he's the opposite of Tibbs, and Tibbs
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was I'm gonna do it my way, this way, we're
gonna do it. We're gonna do defense first, We're gonna
grind with our top seven guys, and if no one
else plays, that's fine. Mike Brown's like, hey, whatever, man,
let's just go out, have fun, run, score a bunch
of points, and you know, we'll figure it out at
the end. And it's worked some That's just a guess,
but he passes that bar of you can't fire a
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guy who took you to the conference finals unless you
hire somebody who's gone beyond the conference finals. So I
think because of where we started, where we get to
feels disappointed to some But when you take a breath
and go like, yeah, I mean, Tibbs had been successful
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the NBA, but it's not like he'd never been to
the conference finals before. It's not like he's set the
world on fire in the playoffs. It is a more
offensive mind the league. You do have to guard people.
Mike Brown had played you know, turned his style into
a wide open one. He's in Sacramento. It worked, it
was fun, people came, people watched, and the team was
relative is successful. He was successful with the Golden State
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Warriors during the interim stint and really well. He liked, well, liked.
And this is it's no different than when you're in
a relationship, right, you get married, you get divorced. Who's
the next woman you date? Well, if she was blonde,
sometimes it's the burnette. If she has short hair, now
it's long hair. If she's more passive, you get somebody
who's more aggressive. You date the opposite, or maybe you
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have a type and everybody you date looks exactly the
same and you just substitute in name tags. I don't know,
but most dudes, it feels like go from one you
know from from polar opposes, just like with just like
with coaches, you have Tibbs who's heavy handed, demanding, kind
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of gruff on his he it only works with his guys,
doesn't play a deep bench and wants to play defensive
minded ball. Regards to the fact that if you actually
watch Tim's team, they played pretty free, pretty easy on offense,
but persona wise, style wise seen as defensive first gritty mentality,
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you know, not a guy that constantly has a smile
on his face. And oh yeah, by the way, he
happens to be white. The Knicks hire a guy who'd
been slightly more successful in the playoffs but loved by
a lot of people. Super likable guy, play a fast style.
He happens to be black as well, and I'm guessing
plays more of his bench. And I actually think this
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becomes the year in which my dad used to tell
me something about guys that follow Bill Parcells, like that
first year you get there, still they still have in
grained in them all of the little discipline oriented things
that made Bill Parcells arguably the greatest coach of our
generation in the National Football League. But then it comes
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some of the kind of free spirit and oh the
dictator's gone. And that first year you actually kind of
get the best of both worlds. You get the new
energy combined with the discipline of Parcels. Now year two
it gets really hard because parcells stuff did in fact work,
the discipline was needed, and some of that disappears over time.
And I think that'll be a challenge to Mike Brown
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in the year two, but right now you're one. I
don't know. I don't hate it. I think the part
that's killing the Knicks is the perception. Right if you
fire a guy and the job is opening this song,
you couldn't get your first guy, you couldn't get your
second guy, you couldn't get your third guy. Well, they
end up getting the guy who's NBA Coach of the
Year two years ago, and it's happened to him twice.
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He's very familiar with the East. It actually makes sense
if if you take out, you know, you take out
the the guys they tried to talk to. The timing
and how TIBs was fired, all of those things. Byer,
does it make sense to you, Dan Byer?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I mean you've this search didn't make sense. But the hiring, ultimately,
I think is fine. I think you can point your
point about the time in Sacramento and we've seen kind
of how that organization is completely revamped itself from that
playoff year that were just a couple of seasons removed
from where they took the Warriors to seven games, and
you can you can blame it on ownership, or you
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could blame it on what was going on in the
front office and not have Mike Brown take any other responsibility.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
So yeah, it was it was fine.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I just the search process of them going to all
the other teams when you had a Mike Brown out there,
when you had a Taylor Jenkins who you also spoke with.
I don't think they even talked with Michael Malone. But
so that that whole deal was the search was crazy.
But ultimately you get Mike Brown.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Fine. Higher. I don't know if it's a loteral move,
but it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, I I that's it. It's this is the airs
withould Like It's like when you on a basketball team
runs an offensive set, nobody executes it particularly well, and
then they jump up and knock down a shot and
you're like, eh, yeah, good coaching, you know. Yeah, So
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that's what the Knicks did, right. The Knicks passed the
ball around a bunch of times, guys dribbled it, dribble it,
dribble it. What are we doing? And then they throw
it to Jail and Bruns and he throws in a
questionable shot. He goes in and you're like, hey, good job.
I'm probably too close to it because I know Mike
really well. I think he's a fantastic guy. I think
he you know, the the Laker stint was he probably
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butchered trying to bring in Eddie Jordan to run Princeton
style offense. It was a great thought. He got to
clear it with Kobe Bryant if you want to work.
But again, Mike's been around it long enough, yeah, you know,
to have learned from his mistakes and how to handle it.
And look, maybe it's what got him fired in Sacramento.
(10:07):
Remember the waning days of his time in Sacramento. He
was He pointed out that Daron Fox kind of butchered
something late in the game, said that to the media,
and then supposedly Darren Fox was unhappy. Then he gets fired,
and then Darren Fox like, why'd Darren Fox? Like, why'd
you fire him? I liked him? Why'd you fire him?
And then Darreon Fox gets traded.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, like I almost give him a pass, honestly,
And I know that. Like his Coach of the Year
honors were with Lebron and the Calves and with the
well it wasn't one with the Lakers, but said him. Think,
but the point is it's tough to coach superstars as well.
So like, if you're gonna look at him and say
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what kind of coaches he, I would look at the
Sacramento tenure more than I would the other two.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Or you could say, remember he got fired after a
fifty one win season with the Cleveland Cavaliers, right when
they lost to the Boston Celtics in the playoffs. And
then when they fired him, they again, the Calves thought
they were firing him because Lebron didn't like him, And
Lebron may not have liked him, but it didn't stop
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Lebron from leaving and going to Miami. Those two things
go inside with each other. Yeah, Jase do so?
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Can we drove down on something that Buyer brought up?
And you brought it up a couple of weeks ago too,
and I agree. You know, the Knicks took this kind
of like you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs
kind of thing to the offseason, and I'm guessing they
pissed off a bunch of teams, like trade partners, Like
how if they ultimately landed on a guy who was
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a free agent to begin with, didn't they piss off
trade partners along the way? Aren't they aren't teams less?
Likely to deal with the Knicks now because they caused
this disturbance with their head coaches and it forced them
to have to pay their head coaches or it forced
them to have this these public acknowledgements. Isn't there a
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a net negative here?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Maybe? Maybe, but one it's not show friends as show business. Secondly,
I think the easy landing place if you did feel
like there were feelings that were hurt, is hey, we
could have gone and talked to those guys without clearing
with you. We didn't have to do that right, Like
we could have done the agent thing where we talked
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to the agent and never actually you know, make the
formal ask so we can say we did the right thing.
I think it's more, yeah, you fire tips and people
get excited, and this happens in all coaching jobs. Like
if Mike Brown's name the head coach, like yeah, I
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like Mike Brownie's fine, Like like Dan said, like be fine.
But if you fired tips, you're like, ooh, they got
to have something big going on, you know, And it's
it's a lot like you say, hey, listen, we turned down.
You know, Brad Pitt wanted this role. We told him,
(13:08):
like we didn't think he was a good fake, like, oh,
you turned down Brad Pitt. Okay, well that means you're
going after somebody really really big and they end up
getting kind of a solid B list actor and like, really,
that's that's it, right.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Multiple coaches got contract extensions or modified contracts because the
Knicks wanted to talk to them. Billy Donovan in Chicago
was the one that really stood out.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah they screwed Chicago.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah yeah, where they get a trade with Chicago anyway?
Does it matter anyway? Maybe? You know, maybe I don't know.
Does it hurt your trade partners? I guess you know.
I don't think anybody's gonna call them and hand them
Luka Doncic the way that the way that the Mavericks
handed him to the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Yes, yes, Sam, I'm just curious if we'll have another
moment like this like Mike Brown had in front of
the Sacramento media where he really drilled down on the
importance of possessions.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Just need to be methodical, I'm stacking or playing the
right way. Possession after possession, after possession, What about the
next after possession and the next after possession? Okay, after
possession after possession after possession, after possession.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
How do you think the New York media would take
something like that?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
They would play it probably fifteen or twenty times over
and over and over and over and over again. Yes, yes,
I will. I'm gonna warn everybody. The crew is kind
of in a mood we had. You're gonna want to
listen to the podcast. It's a great discussion about circumcision
(14:49):
in the podcast. That just I'll leave it at that.
I cut my remark short, so we did there, cut
my right short. The crew is in a bit of
a mood, and it's a good mood, but it's definitely
like a snappy, kind of like fun, sarcastic mood. So again,
just throwing that warning out to you. If you're listening today.
Dan's got on a good looking golf shirt. That means
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he's probably hitting the links after the show.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
That's just a guess, Dan, Or yeah, the laundry was
not completed.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, I forgot to Dan.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
That shirt makes me want to eat orange Sherbet's bright.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Can you also clean up trash? Inside of the road.
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Speaker 7 (16:40):
He's not getting the middle It's time.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
For So what's the midway? You ask yourself? Thanks so
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can get on podcast download ver download podcast the week.
It's Wednesday, middle of the day. I don't know. It's
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one on the west, four on the east. You know
your day doesn't end at five anymore, and it's the
middle of the show. We call it the midway. Can
be any topic, Jay Stu, what's the midway?
Speaker 8 (17:14):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I did want to make this is a special midway today.
I saw this note and I'm like, man, this is
this is almost written for the Doug Gottlieb Show. Whoever,
whoever took the time to post this must be a listener.
This is what PMT Stats and Info posted this morning.
July second, twenty twenty five is exactly the middle of
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the year, which means from this day moving forward will
be closer to twenty fifty than we were two thousand. So, Doug,
not only are we in the middle of the day,
in the middle of the show, we're in the very
middle of twenty twenty five and to this tweets, I
(17:58):
guess sentiment, we are in the middle of the half century.
We are right in the middle of our half century.
To me, these these things are more than coincidences. Really,
this is why we have the Midway to discuss topics
of the day and have a good time with them.
Today I threw out on the group text, since we
(18:20):
are at the very middle of the year, what storylines
are you looking forward to following for the rest of
the calendar year. I saw exactly zero comments about it,
so I'm assuming that's what we're good with me.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, it's good with me.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yeah, yes, no need to change.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
No, I thought it was outstanding. I didn't want to
give away an idea because I think, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
No.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
The one good thing about the twenty five years is
if we were to do that angle, like what are
we looking for the next twenty five years? All of
the US open sites have been basically set from now
and so there's only like four open So thanks a
lot USGA for that one.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Redict. Sorry just to golf take it's it's like the
Marvel movie schedule coming out, like fifteen years ago, and
they're like, these are all the Marvel movies we're gonna
make over the next twenty years. Yeah, like, okay, thanks
for the surprise, Thank thanks for giving everybody else a chance.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
That's not By the way, has anybody seen F one?
Speaker 8 (19:15):
Is it out?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
The movie? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:17):
It did very well except first weekend. Yeah, I've not
seen it.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
S Brad Pitt combined with the guy that made Top
Gun Maverick. What could go wrong? Right, Brad Pitt who
got it? Still got it?
Speaker 8 (19:29):
Here's what could go wrong?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Go ahead? Can you say it? Jay stew I I
don't know if I should say it as a college
basketball coach. Brad's Pitt still still got it? You know
what's in the bar? No?
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Not that, No, No, I just movie drop from Brad.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Say, Brad Pitt's still hot.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Yeah, he's like sixty one, I think something like that.
No way, Yeah he's in the sixties.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yes he is.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Brad Pitt is sixty one years old.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
He's gorgeous too, He's gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, he's good looking man.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
He is sixty one. He'll in December and he was
a bee.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Wow. Huh.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
I would love I would love to fall into Brad's
pit pause.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Apparently I don't know if you do.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Let's move on, Okay, things I'm looking forward to later
on this year, not Brad Spit, Not Brad spin I'm sorry,
I'm going to say it. I know it feels like
prisoner of the moment. I want to see the Aaron
Rodgers thing in Pittsburgh. I'm with you there, just I
just do like it's his last year. They're kind of
acting on Pittsburgh like a motivated Aaron Rodgers is usually
(20:37):
pretty good, but he wasn't very good half the year.
He succeeds, he fails as a player. You know, he's
going to say it doesn't matter because it's bigger than that,
it's a spiritual journey or whatever. But like it's really
going to be a kind of how you end your career.
Sometimes defines a little bit of your career. It doesn't, right,
Peyton Manning, he won a Super Bowl, but I mean
(20:58):
he was bad and he really kind of got pulled
old midway through the season. Brady's last year, they weren't
particularly good. He was okay, not really enthused in like,
you know who's playing with and playing poor. But I
want to see what Aaron Rodgers does this year. I'm
that's a storyline I want to pay attention to.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Well, there's going to be that kind of weekly thing too, right,
because like it's going to be interesting to see the
first time Aaron Rodgers does something on McAfee that directly
contradicts what Mike Tomlins said on Sunday night, like tom
and will do one of his we want volunteers and
not hostages, and then Aaron Rodgers will go on McAfee
and be like, no, no, no, we need that guy. I
(21:38):
don't care what he just did on Sunday. We need
that guy. He's important to the team. He'll like, he'll
do things that will just directly contradict the head coach.
That's a part of his brand, and it's going to
be interesting. Given the amount of respect that each of
these two guys have.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
It's pretty amazing because they're going to spend seven months
with each other.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
That's what that's that's what it is. That's not even
a school year.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
July.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
I don't even think the Dan points out, I don't
even think the NBA playoffs are shorter than seven months.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Okay, So that's that's one. That's one Dan you go.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
So Jason Stewart last year pointed out many times and
he was right about this on how he was intrigued
about the Kansas City Chiefs going for a three peat.
And I don't think that that story got enough run
because of the greatness of the Chiefs. Now they fell
a game short, we get tired of them. So now
(22:41):
that they've lost this Super Bowl, I am curious to
see on how they do rebound because the last time
that they lost the Super Bowl, they did not make
it back the next year. Granted Cincinnati had to have
a crazy AFC Championship game in Kansas City to beat.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Them, but still they did not return.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
And I am curious to see on if that Super
Bowl game was a sign of things to come or
just a mirage that has fixed this offseason with a
rededicated Travis Kelcey and whatnot. So I will carry that
Chiefs banner. I continue to think that that story in
Kansas City teetering on which way is gonna go, It's
(23:22):
gonna be very interesting.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
This fall, Chase do, I'm gonna keep it local.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
I think the Dodgers baseball story this coming October is
one of the most intriguing baseball stories that we've seen.
How many different World Series champions have there been in
the past eight years? I want to say eight eight
because I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I believe it's eight.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
And coming off an off season where you're like, are
the Dodgers bad for baseball? And how stupid a notion
that is being a team or the first team to
repeat in quite some time, I think is a is
just like a Dan just pointed out, it's kind of
like the chief story like this is this is an
intriguing thing to follow if you like the Dodgers or not.
(24:05):
In fact, if you hate the Dodgers, it's even more interesting.
Can they repeat? They have the most talented team, they
have the biggest payroll, And I'm gonna be following closely
as a Dodger fan and a strong critic of Andrew Friedman.
So the storyline I'm looking forward to most the second
half of twenty twenty five the Los Angeles Dodgers in October.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Sam just briefly going back to that Aaron Rodgers topic.
I am curious if midway through the season, Aaron Rodgers
will ask Mike Tomlin if he could bring in Alan
Lizard and Randall Cobb for help, just gonna dust them off.
Let's throw out Randall Cobblizard out there.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
Let's get it.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Get those guys catching balls. No, actually had a couple
in mind, but I am curious if this is going
to be a by the end of the year, a
sophomore slump for Caitlin Clark. You can define a slump
a sophomore slump in a lot of ways. Sometimes it's
just pet poor shootings. Sometimes it's injury. Sometimes it's both.
And right now she has the growing issue and her
shooting has been an issue. But this Fever team has
actually had some really, really impressive wins. They obviously beat
(25:08):
the Links last night in Minneapolis to win the Commissioner's Cup.
They had the best record in the w NBA coming
into that game. They took the bloom off the Rows
at the New York Liberty and beat them for the
first time. They won at Seattle, so the team is
able to win without her. I think clearly we need
to have KAITLYNK Clark playing again.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Uh just hold on a second, put a pause on
your uh your script.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
Did you just refer to the Fever as we you
just said we?
Speaker 5 (25:38):
I don't think I did it.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, it was a week.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
Well, we'll replay that, we'll your script, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Do we care? I'm just I don't. Who cares?
Speaker 8 (25:47):
Oh, Doug has a problem with people saying, right, but.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I don't like hardcore fantasy. We but like the n
w NBA Fever team. You're from Iowa, you just started fall.
You're clearly a Caitlyn Clark putting at it.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
I don't remember saying go to be here.
Speaker 8 (26:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Not usually one guy. I'm a me guy.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
But all right, yeah, okay, I gotta I got a
couple of here, a couple here. First of all, I
do have we talked about this in the pod, and
I have received work. Okay, this is not breaking news.
But I've been led to believe that Caitlin Clark will
not take a penny of the money from the Commissioner's
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Cup that the team received and will break up. I
think she's like, hey, I didn't play. Let team personnel
get it. The people who make the least get it.
That's what I've been told.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
That's nice.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Wait where are you getting that?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I just sources, layers close to the situation have led
me to believe that is not a confirmed report.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
That's just looking out. Yeah, that's great, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yes, and probably, honestly, she probably would have done it
if she would have played as well.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I honestly, it's it's a drop in the bucket to
what she makes. Yeah, Mamba shoes sold out like that.
She's really, really bright woman.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
She played, She played in certain games that helped them
get to the Commissioner's Cup Championship. I opined earlier that
maybe she could give her money away to her teammates,
because they did go out there, her teammates.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I don't know if she gave her teammates. I think
it's the team personnel.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
I don't I've not heard that from anybody, but just
myself thinking that maybe she could do people.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah, can we.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Get to the here's the things we're looking forward to.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
We have I.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Mentioned before we get there. Before we get there, I
did want to I have evidentiary. Evidentiary what's the word proof?
Iowa say, I'm just three minutes ago talking about his fever.
You have me up on the computer?
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Sound, oh, go ahead, Yeah, So the team is able
to win without her? I think clearly we need to
have Kaitlyn Clark playing. I'm talking about his sports dude.
Come on, I'm talking about sports fans. You need to
have Clark pack. You know what, we fever fans.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
I'm actually gonna go to Sam on this, Sam, Sam,
I got your back here. I'll catch you in this
tress fall.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Okay, thank you, guys, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
No listen, because he meant we as sports fans, we
need to have Kayla Clark because otherwise we don't care.
Starting to about Sophie Cunningham, but.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
We Sophie Stunningham, Sophie stunning Okay, I've been vindicated. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I know you're gonna say Ohio State, but I'm gonna
say arch.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Manning, right, Yeah, I'm glad you weren't there. Yeah arch Manning.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Like again, part of me feels bad for the kid,
all right, but part of me is like, hey, dude,
you're the dude. You're gonna put yourself man in the arena. Now,
the quarterback of Texas Texas, right they spent didn't They
spend three million dollars on his visit supposedly, right, Like
this is that's like all time, Johnny be good levels
(29:01):
our archbanding quarterback of.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Texas there there.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I think, I'm so glad you brought that up because
I think that he is far and away the biggest
story in college football. And it's also because I think
there are stories that are lacking in college football. And
I'm going to bring up a topic that we kind
of talked about last year. Do you remember I was
not high in Alabama? Remember, like they you know, they
went to Madison, they took care of what Wisconsin and
(29:26):
you're like, oh, it's Alabama's Alabama. Alabama's not Alabama when
Nick Saban isn't there, And there was intrigue because you
think that maybe that team's going to keep rolling with
Caitlin de Boorr.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
But it ended up not being the case.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
They don't even make they don't even make the playoffs,
So now Alabama isn't Alabama anymore. Ohio State's got a
you know, a bunch of new faces on offense outside
of Jeremiah Smith that you have to replace.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Oklahoma stinks spinks.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, Penn State is maybe the second biggest story I
think because if not now, when for them, like finally,
even though they made it to the semi final last year,
it's kind of a all right, let's see it, James Franklin,
Let's win that big game. And but other than that,
you know, I have a tough time in getting a
lot of buzz about the college football season. I think
(30:20):
arch Manning is the story far and away in college football.
And they open up at Ohio State just to start
the season. So that's the game that everybody's gonna be
looking at.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
How do we feel in what late December? I guess
about because we had a lot of problems with how
teams were seeded in the first twelve team playoff, and
now we're going to try to correct those errors and
not have it like a Boise State be like have
a buye. You know, we need to correct those things.
So I think that the makeup of the playoff will
be interesting. See how we do it this time around,
maybe trying to correct some of those mistakes from last year.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, it's not a great There's not tons of momentum
for college football right now.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Do you see the big twelves getting rid of pre
season polls because like Arizona State was picked to finish
whatever way deep into the conference in the end of winning.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
It, camstat I'll tell you what though, that's what makes
the story great.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Agreed.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I love preseason polls. It's just talking fodder though you know,
it's just yeah, yeah, but to talk about it at least, but.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
It gets us talking about it. Yes, yeah, I'm with Dan.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
So what you think that it's good it went away
or you should keep it?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
No, they're dumb because nobody knows, Like most teams have
entirely new teams, so it's really hard. Like people ask
them all the time, like what's your league gonna look like?
Like I don't know of in my league in the
Horizon League in basketball, the top twenty five scores too
are back. I have one of them, and we're the
worst team. So, I mean, you know, it's crazy. Okay,
(31:48):
So we got college football, we got NFL.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
There's also gonna be a good Rider Cup at H
so that'll be a good weekend in late September. H.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I mean, anybody, anybody else wonder like I don't think
they'll trade him, but what if Lebron gets traded? Thunder
at least interesting? Uh, But I thought that was a
pretty good midway chase. Do anything else?
Speaker 8 (32:21):
Nope, we got Daniel Jeremiah here.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Great, we'll ask him what he's most looking forward to
that is The Midway.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
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Speaker 1 (32:39):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. Fox Sports Radio. I mean this.
According to the Athletic stand Waiki, Lakers are already targeting
Al Horford. His call is A colleague Sam Ameck, who's
also from the Athletic said that the Warriors are too
Warriors could end up they could end up a key
(33:00):
piece in the battle for a thirty nine year old center. Again,
my my thing is this, Like DeAndre Ayton is DeAndre
at officially a Laker? Dan Bayer did he Did he
sign with the Lakers?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
No. No, again, that was supposedly he was. They were
one of the final teams. It's like DeAndre Ayton, I
I look, I understand what Lebron's people are kind of saying, like, hey,
they're kind of threwed here, right not gonna probably not
gonna win a title this year. And I don't understand Ayton.
(33:39):
I don't understand Horford. Like, the best thing Luca does
is come off of pick and roll and either score it,
pass it, or throw a lob. And you have to
have a lob threat. And they don't seem to like Jack,
say so, why aren't they going after that type of center?
You know who might know? Frank Iola, He joins us
(33:59):
down in the Doug Gottlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Of course, longtime NBA writer. You see him on ESPN,
Herb of the Yes Network, on Serious XM as well.
He joins us now on Fox Sports Radio. What was
your opinion this would have been like a backward around
the horn existed great around the horn topic. Lebron James's
(34:19):
agent comes out and is like, hey, Lebron wants to
win a championship, so we're going to explore our options
after he just re ups with the Lakers with the
player option. Was what was your read on that?
Speaker 9 (34:32):
Yeah, well, first of all, don't be hating DeAndre, all right,
we'll start there. I do think it's funny. I always
love that he's monitoring the situation. Well, guess what, somebody
break the news to him that the Lakers just signed
the guy that's gonna be forty one on December thirtieth
to a fifty three dour contract, which which kind of
hurts him a little bit. I'm not telling him to
take less he could. Obviously he's earned the right to
(34:53):
do that. That's in his contract. But you mentioned it.
The biggest issue that the Lakers have is that they're
in the Western Conference and you were talking about centers
that they can get. You know, Nick Claxton would certainly
fill the bill. I don't think he's been traded yet,
like he would be available from the Nets. But you know,
the Lakers are going to have to give up a
first round pick if they if they want to acquire
Nick Claxon. But Lebron's in a tough situation. You know,
(35:15):
it's amazing that we're still talking about the guy after
after all these years. The best thing for him would
be to figure out a way to come to the
Eastern Conference, Like I don't know why Kevin Durant didn't
try to do that. All the teams are in the
West while the East is wide open right now?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, okay, so the East is wide open. The New
York knicks Hire Mike Brown, what do you think of
the higher Well?
Speaker 9 (35:41):
I like Mike Brown a lot and obviously as a good,
you know, record you know, he got to coach Lebron
a lot in Cleveland, which which certainly helps. It's it's
strange because you know, you go out and you made
it to the conference finals first time in twenty five years,
and then they decide to get rid of their coach.
And I think they're targeted for a long time was
Jason Kidd, And you know, I think that's why it's
(36:03):
probably dragged on as long as they did. They tried
to get Jason Kidd. You know, they couldn't eve get
permission to speak to him, and then you know they
did talk to the Rockets. They tried. So they went
after four four coaches that we know of that are
under contract. So if you're doing that, come on, Doug,
if you're getting if you're trying to talk together a
turty in the contract, that's the guys that are hiring.
So it sounds like that Mike Brown at best would
(36:25):
have been their fifth choice. But you know that doesn't
make them the wrong choice. And you know, many years ago,
I think it was you know, all the way back
in ninety six. I know it's ancient history, but you know,
when Joe Torrey got hired by the Yankees, nobody thought
it was a good hire than the next thing. You know,
he's part of a dynasty there. Mike Brown's walking into
a good situation. Like he just said, wide open the East.
The Knicks do have a talented roster, but there's gonna
(36:46):
be a lot of pressure on them. The nixt won
ten playoff games last year. I mean this past season
the most since ninety nine. They made the conference finals
first time since two thousands. Of the expectations like the
pressure are going to be through the roof.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, I I tend to agree there. Kevin Durant to Houston,
Houston's made a lot of moves. Several people like it.
What do you think about Houston and their evolution?
Speaker 9 (37:12):
I like it a lot. I kind of I always
thought would they try to make a run at Devin Booker,
you know, for Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant still has in
my opinion, a lot left. The problem is can he
stay healthy? And we did have a really I thought
the season overall was disappointing because they didn't get at
the take place in the Western Conference. But you know,
Imodoko was an assistant coach in Brooklyn when Kevin Durant
(37:32):
was there, so they have a relationship. I think they
have a really good young nucleus around them, especially the
kid Thompson, who's terrific. They got some toughness with guys
like Fred van Fleet and what you like about the Rockets.
Now they still have the assets to make a run
at Giannis if and when, you know, Jannis does become
available and wants out of Milwaukee. So I think it
(37:54):
works out well for Kevin Durant. The one thing about
Kevin Durant which I don't understand, I still tie it
to like not being married, not having kids. If he
had that, he'd be like the rest of us. He'd
be kind of miserable. So he spends most of his
time being miserable about silly things like fighting people on
social media and things like that. Like Kevin Durant never
seems to be happy. I don't get it. I mean,
even just recently you look at some of his social
(38:14):
media activity, just like go going after people. I don't
understand it for like a guy that I mean, I
don't know. You look across sports, like the all time
grades in any sport, whether it's tennis, football, basketball, soccer,
Like an all time grader they really just randomly calling
after people on social media. I don't understand that part
about Kevin Durant. But when it as it relates to
how good Houston could be, I mean, come on, Doug.
(38:35):
They were the second seed last year, they won fifty
two games. There were a young team. I get it.
They got knocked out in the Game seven by Golden State.
But they're going to be a legit contender in the
Western Conference.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I agree. I actually think the NBA. I think the
Texas teams are loaded for battle. I mean, I don't
know what Kyrie's looks like when he comes off the
knee injury, but the rest of that roster looks really,
really athletic and can really defend. The Spurs. They still
may be a year or two away, but it's it's
not that far away. You got obviously Oklahoma City. I
(39:08):
know that's a different state, but it's right there in
that same corridor, and then the Houston Rockets. It's those
four are where the players and the draft picks and
the future seems to seems to live in the NBA.
What about Giannis, Is this the offseason that he gets moved?
Speaker 9 (39:23):
I don't think so, because I don't think they make
a move like that. I'm not buying this idea that
he was unhappy, that the Milwaukee Bucks are really making
a seismic move like that without Giannis knowing about it.
To me, that that move from Miles Turner and releasing
Damian Lillard, that's Milwaukee saying we're really going to roll
the dice here. We have the best player in the
Eastern Conference, the Eastern Conference about Jason Tatum, and without
(39:46):
Tyres Haliburt for the time being, looks like, you know,
we have you know, we could make a run here.
So I don't think it'll be this season, you know,
trades like that. I mean, I know Luca got traded
before the deadline this year, but any trade like that
with the honest would usually would probably take place before
the draft. So I think I think Milwaukee and Giannis
are going to be together for at least a year.
(40:07):
Know that that could all change by you know, right
around the draft next June. But I think now he's
going to be in and to his credit, you know,
he he is loyal to the city and the franchise.
You know they drafted I mean, it was a skinny
guy out of Greece, nobody knew about. He turned into
a man there, had incredible success. I mean, you know this,
(40:27):
the arena, the you know the arena there, you know
a lot of the downtown area, that Deer District. A
lot of that has to do with the honest he
really changed the brand of the Milwaukee Bucks, and it
would be a big deal for them to trade them.
I think it would be a big deal for him
to get traded. But I think I think Milwaukee realizes.
You look at San Antonio, you look at Houston, they
have assets. Look at what the Brooklyn Mets have done
(40:49):
with all the assets they have there. The Golden State
Wars could potentially be in play. The Miami Heat would,
you know, be a lot of the usual suspect. But
I think I think the Bucks, if and when that
more to come, I think they would do right by Yannis.
I think he would do right by them and not
make it. I'm sure he'd probably identify a few teams
and they would just try to get the best assets
(41:10):
that they could.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Stutg Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Trader, that's the
voice of Frank Isola. Frank, Look, obviously we want to
talk NBA's big NBA free agency time. But what are
your thoughts on where the w NBA is now with
their handling. I mean, you just had the women's the
(41:31):
player's poll for the All Star Game had Caitlin Clark
as the ninth best guard in the league. Now again,
I'm I don't watch enough w NBA to tell you
if she's first or second or maybe ninth, but ninth
does seem a little low. And it's the narrative of
they just don't like her. They don't like her even
(41:53):
though she's helping them all get rich. What's your read
on what's going on in the w.
Speaker 9 (41:58):
Well, the only thing that said about the players in
the WNBA in this case, I think, you know, every
year the NBA does the same thing where the fan
vote means the most, which they should just let the
fans this fans game, whoever they voted into the game, whatever,
Let the fans have it. It's there, it's their game.
But the you know, the fans, I think would have half,
you know, half of the vote would be for the
fans in the media, and the players would have the
(42:22):
you know, would make up the other twenty five percent.
He's gonna get twenty five and the NBA players a
lot of times. Would you know, there were times when
the media voted Lebron and Kevin Durant unanimously as All
Star starters and the players didn't. They had guys from
like all over the place. So some of that I
have to take with a grain of salt. I still
think a lot of it goes back to last season.
I think the league set a bad tone by not
(42:44):
putting on the Olympic team Cheryl Reeves. But you know,
the national team coach, who's the Minnesota coach, came out
with a tweet before the first preseason game and she
took a little dig at caately Leclark. I do think
if David Stern were around, he would have called up
Cheryl Reeves and basically told her stop tweeting about Caitlin Clark.
And it would have called the USA Basketball and said,
we know that Caitlin Clark is going to be on
(43:05):
this team, right and they would have put her on
the team. So I think the way that she came
into the league, I mean, look at Page Beckers her
you know, entrance into the league wasn't nearly I think,
you know, it wasn't nearly as many minefields as Caitlin
Clark had. But come on, Doug, you know this. If
Duke runs men's basketball, they're you know, they're everywhere in
the NBA, and Yukon runs women's basketball. It's just the
(43:27):
way it is, and it just so happens. You know,
Grant Hill is the executive director of the men's national team,
and it's Sue I think believe now it's Sue Verd
is the executive director of the women's national team. So
that's pretty powerful. My thing is, if Kaitlin Clark went
to Yukon, none of this stuff would be going on.
She would have been on the national team and she
(43:48):
wouldn't be catching as much grief as she catches. I
think it's unfortunately. I think the problem that the w
NBA players have that NBA players don't have. NBA players
understand marketing, and they understand economics and they have common sense.
I think a lot of the players in the NBA
need to take an economics one on one course, a
common sense one on one course, and a marketing one
(44:11):
on one course to really understand that. I think they're
fighting something which they don't. It's not in their best interest,
but for some reason they keep fighting.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
That's Frank I Sola. You hear him on Serius XM,
NBA Radio, you see him on ESPN, you see him
on s n Y, you see him all over. He
does a great job. Frank, you're the best man. Have
an absolutely great fourth July, and thank you for being
our guest.
Speaker 9 (44:33):
You too, Doug, take care of you.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Ah, it's Dog Gottlieb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio. That's
my guy, Dan Bayer. Oh so I'm doing I'm what
we're doing? Cow hurt on the fourth? Is that right?
Jay stew Are you doing that with me? Or are
you off? So I think I asked if you're doing it?
Speaker 8 (44:57):
Uh, hurt on the fourth and I'll be working, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
And then Dan, are you doing my show or are
you off? Or are we doing the herd with me?
Speaker 4 (45:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (45:04):
I'm not doing the hard I'm doing your show.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Okay, So you'll hear Dan next couple of days. This
is just an interesting one to me. Are you guys? Fireworks?
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Now, I know you live in southern California, so you
can't really buy I mean legally the same fireworks you
can buy. But do you still enjoy a good you know,
semi street legal explosion.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
I've become more and more. I loved it when I
was a kid. Then I don't know if I just
became too cool for school, like in my teens and twenties,
but I do appreciate them. Obviously there's dangers with fires
and possible injuries, but I have enjoyed them more, I
could say, probably for the last decade or so.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
Jase, do I think fireworks are first simpletons unless you're
a child. I think that people are who are motivated
to do fireworks or watch fireworks are just simple in nature.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
I love fireworks.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Simple. Dan's what they call me?
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Simple, simple dog. I'm just simple, all right, Sammy. What
about you?
Speaker 5 (46:08):
I'm with Dan? I simple?
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Sam?
Speaker 5 (46:10):
Well, sweet Dan?
Speaker 6 (46:11):
Was your.
Speaker 5 (46:13):
Was your takeaway that you actually like it more now
in the last ten years, like you went through that hole?
Speaker 3 (46:17):
Yeah? I just yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
I think when I was a teenager and and you know,
my twenties is just like you know, like, what's that
I'm yeah, too cool? And now I have a little
bit more of an appreciation.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
I would say that I loved it as a kid
meant a lot. Fourth July, I meant a lot to me.
We used I used to go down to Missouri with
my mom and buy fireworks, bring it back to our
our rural farm in Iowa and shoot them off, have fun.
I think now as an adult, I'm, you know, like,
occasional fireworks show is fun. But you know, I think
what I was really against drones in general. But drone
shows are very cool and they don't spook veterans. They
(46:48):
don't spook dogs or bees or birds. They can do
really cool stuff. But I will say some this rule
fireworks warehouse in California. I put this on Twitter and
I was Sam ninety nine. If you want to check
it out. This is a helicopter hovering over this fireworks
warehouse somewhere in California and County Yolo. Yeah, Yolo County,
(47:11):
very fitting. You only live once, so don't blow your
fingers off. So it was smoking and all of a sudden,
just this massive Hollywood style explosion. It was wild. So
check that out. But yeah, fireworks are cool once in
a while, but you kind of get you see enough shows,
you're like, right, well.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
The fireworks shows are different that now looks some of
the fireworks shows are better than they used to be.
I agree with you on drone shows firework shows. I
am one of those, like, can we just get the finale, Like,
just give me. I'd rather have fireworks five minutes of
the finale than thirty minutes with a two minute finale.
But but and I I actually agree with Jason. But
(47:48):
I think that's why we like it. Right, It's like
a it's like a primal thing. Yes, it's simple. We
like blowing stuff up. Now, I don't actually like the
ones that blow stuff up, the M one thousands or whatever.
You know, the M eights go to M one thousands
and they are little mini sticks of dynamite. It can
be fun, but I really like the ones that fire
(48:09):
stuff up.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yes, I love four seasons. Yeah, the one that goes
you know, white to yellow to green to red and
then putters out.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
It is It's also an interesting cottage industry, right. It's
like could be the same people to do like Christmas
trais like pumpkin pumpkin patch, Christmas tree sales, and fireworks, right,
and those people like only work a couple weeks out
of the year, and each of those.
Speaker 5 (48:37):
Things and their carnies, well they're also travel a way.
They're like also in states where they're illegal, which I
never like understood, Like there are fireworks stores where fireworks
aren't legal, and I've always undered what the It goes
back to that Joe Dirt scene where he's like, uh no, Cirril,
we only have snakes and sparklers. It's like where all
(48:59):
your your fud ruckers and your your your belly blasters
and your your feed ripples. By the way, that stuff
is expensive.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
It's it's expensive. It's also sneaky expensive. Yes, it is
steaky expensive.
Speaker 8 (49:10):
Do you guys?
Speaker 5 (49:11):
Do you guys like the I was obsessed as a
kid with those fireworks. They would fire out the little
parrot chute guy, they would come sprinkling down. Then you
could go catch run after it and catch it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
I think part of part of my love for it
is in California didn't have them, didn't.
Speaker 5 (49:24):
You didn't have the fun like personal foul.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
We had like flowers and then you had to like
peel off the flowers if you want to make something,
and yeah, then you had to get the one.
Speaker 5 (49:33):
Tanks, tanks and boats were fun, fire little cannons and stuff.
Speaker 6 (49:38):
Good.
Speaker 9 (49:38):
Thanks
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