November 8, 2022 • 47 mins
On the Tuesday edition of The Best of the Doug Gottlieb Show: Coming off of the Ravens' Monday night win and the conversation on the talk shows today involving Lamar Jackson and his lack of a contract extension, Doug wants people to stop saying to pay Lamar Jackson and explains why.
Doug and Dan Beyer talk about the Kansas City Chiefs and why they seem to get a pass from criticism for their style of play.
Former team executive and Bucs' General Manager Mark Dominik joins Doug to talk about the Jeff Saturday hiring, Lamar Jackson's contract situation, and all of the major headlines coming off of the NFL weekend.
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ready to go. Um. I want to start with last
night's football game, which I was inaccurate in my selection
of the New Orleans Saints winning the game. My logic
behind the New Orleans Saints winning the game isn't because
I think the New Orleans Saints are any good. I
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don't uh Andy Dalton's are starting quarterback. The defensive hasn't
been the same, even though Dennis Allen was the architect
of that defense last year. And obviously the offense has
left a lot a lot to be desired. It does
feel like at some point Alvin Kamarow is going to
be suspended for a long time. Michael Thomas stopped, if
you've heard this before, is hurt yet again. Like all
of these things, the Saints aren't good. But I saw
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who Baltimore was bringing in with Lamar Jackson on offense,
you know, and I was like, man, you got running
backs down, receiver down, Mark Andrews, down, your your your
favorite option, your number one right receiver, your number one
pass catching target and your number one running back all
out didn't look good. And yet they found a way, right,
they found a way. And I think part of the
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genius to that offense, the genius to how Baltimore plays,
is that not just not just running back, right, not
just running back quarterback. It's in short, in a short
period time, it's not crazy hard to replace. And like, wait,
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so you're saying that because last year's backup came in
that you should replace Lamar Jackson's not what I said.
It's not what I said. What I said is for
a short period of time, it's easier to get somebody
to come in and run essentially a college offense and
run the football forty times last night, shorten the game,
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and play to your defense, which is improved with the
additions recently, most notably ro Quan Smith was awesome last night,
not surprisingly in the three four He's awesome. But the
same reason roe Kuan Smith is traded is the same
reason that I just I'm blown away by the things
that people say about Lamar Jackson. Yes, he completed twelve
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passes the ten different receivers because none of them are
particularly good, right, they just are I mean, hell, I
didn't know Deshan Jackson was back with the Ravens. I
had forgotten. Did you guys remember that Kenyan Drake ends
up running for ninety three. Lamar Jackson runs for eight two.
They combined for uh thirty five rushing attempts and they
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win the game. And you know, Andy Dalton turns it
over once. They can't run the football at all, right,
I think it's three point two yards and carry only
run at fifteen times. It was a time of possession
disaster for the New Orleans Saints and the Ravens were
the far better team. Ravens held the ball thirty seven
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minutes forty seven seconds. The Saints had the ball two
minutes thirteen seconds. Classic, run the football, keep the change moving,
keep your defense out the field, and then you can
unleash your pass rush on Andy Dalton because they can't
run the football. And then one but you'll hear people say, like,
you need to pay Lamar Jackson. Why isn't Baltimore pay him?
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Why do we omit? The truth is because we want
to win some sort of stupid argument. Why do we
do that? Because the idea of paying him would lead
you to believe like you didn't know anything about the situation,
and you had people go on radio and TV today
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and say, you need to pay Lamar Jackson. Okay, first
of all, everyone who plays in the NFL is getting paid.
That's why they called professional athletes. The Baltimore Ravens want
to keep Lamar Jackson. They don't want to trade him.
They don't want to lose in free agency, and they're
not going to you know why, because he's not actually
a free agent. Well, his contract expires this year. Yeah,
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not really. There's the franchise tag, and there's another franchise tag,
and if they want to there's a transitional tag into
your three. It would cost him a lot of money.
But the fact is that if they don't want him
to leave, he's not going anywhere for the next three
years at least at least. So this thing of you
need to pay him, well, he was offered a report
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over two in guarantees. Do you do you these two? All?
I what I want to hear from people who say
you have to pay him is do you want to
pay him more than Deshaun Watson? If you're there, hey,
God bless you. Nobody in the NFL is there. They're
they're not. They all think that contract is bad. Is
a joke, is one that is a is a bad
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look for the NFL. And some of it, in all honesty,
is because the Shaun's coming off of the suspension. Some
of it, though, is because Deshaun Watson signed a big
guaranteed contract in Houston and then only months later decided
I want out collected the first three years and never
played it down on a contract in Houston. I didn't
play it down, but it's more the idea of five
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years guaranteed for a guy who runs like it's not
I love the not a running quarterback mm hmm, okay,
running quarterback in the NFL, and last night was the
first night of college basketball? Is the mid is the
term mid major to college basketball, which is most people
either don't know what it means or just simply want
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to avoid the reality of the truth of what it means.
Mid Major is not a bad word, and being a
running quarterback is not a bad word. He's the greatest thrower.
He's the greatest combination runner thrower in the history of
the NFL. He's not the scrambler passer of Steve Young,
but in terms of pure running who can also throw.
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That's Slammar Jackson and he's like no man dominated last night,
Like come on man. He had a hundred and thirty
three yards passing, and in fairness to him, he didn't
have his full wide receiving corps. In fairness to the Ravens,
I've heard people say they don't invest in wide and
wide receivers. That's funny. They drafted two first round draft
picks at wide receivers since he's been there. The year
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he was drafted, they drafted first round draft pick at
tight end end. Mark Andrews is actually I believe the
second highest paid tight end. He was the highest paid
tight end coming in the season. Travis Kelsey gets a
new deal, he's the second highest paid tight end. They
have a ton of money locked up in the offensive line,
so there's a lot of money that has been spent
around Lamar Jackson. J K. Dohm is the second round pick. Right,
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So they've given up first round picks for wide receivers
in the tight end, second round pick for running back,
and they haven't invested in it. No, they haven't gone
out and gotten free agents one because the team doesn't
believe in it. The team doesn't believe in high priced
wide receiver free agents. They draft their wide receivers generally
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generally and do a good job of driving him. And secondly, stainly,
why do you need to I mean, look at the
wide receivers who have signed as free agents and it's
hit or miss. And oh yeah, by the way, wide
receivers aren't exactly thrilled with how he throws the football.
Sometimes they love. Everybody loves Lamar Jackson. The dude, great dude,
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great dude. But you don't hear wide receiving going. You
know what I want to go. I want to go
to Baltimore where they run the football three quarters of
the time. It's effective, it works. It's just hard to
recruit anybody to come as a free agent. Rightfully so,
and honestly, they don't want to pay that much money
because they want to win based upon running the football,
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playing great defense. And then every once in a while
Lamar has an explosive play because the guy throws the
ball downfield really well. But I I I've heard on
like six different shows today like, man, they really need
to pay Lamar Jackson. They never said they weren't going
to pay Lamar jack This is exhausting. You are all
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exhausting because what you will do. And I'm so glad
today is election day, which means we get to stop
hearing all these nonsensical uh uh commercials. I'll give you one.
I'll give you one. There's um there was something done
in California. I don't know if you guys know this
one Ramos and Jason Stewart where um recently, recently the
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governor moved and this is how it was reported by some.
The governor moved to to to change whether or not
somebody would automatically be labeled a sex offender if they
were caught having relations with somebody who's underage, if the
span of years is ten or less. Okay, So this
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is a real thing, a real thing in politics where
if you are uh, if it's a same sex crime,
the governor of California has pushed to change whether or
not you get it, you're labeled as a sex offender
if the span of years is it's at the discretion
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of the judge. And when you hear that, you're like, what,
what are we even possibly talking about? How could you
possibly do that? Right? Then you actually read further, read
all the details and the discretion of the judge is
actually the same if it's a heterosexual act. You're like, oh,
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so the idea is like, look, if you're not automatically
labeled with something that I think all of us actually agree,
like I would actually have done the opposite, which is,
if that happens between somebody's less than ten years but
you're twenty three and they're sixteen, it should be an automatic.
I guess they don't because it's nuanced. But the fact
is we're just trying to even out the laws, right,
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that's the idea behind it. Let's just even out so
that are a homosexual, that doesn't matter crime against somebody
younger at the discretion of the judge. I like the automatic,
but okay, discretion of the judge most I would say,
any judge is going to rule in the exact same way.
But what happens is we omit it half of it.
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That's who we become. We're disgraceful, and it's just it's
obviously different crimes against children. I'm a human being plus
a father, I'm equally sensitive. So when I heard it,
I was like, what, this is crazy? How could you
do that? Then I read further and I was like, Okay, well,
I don't like the previous rule. I wish they both
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changed or they both changed back to the right. We
do the same thing in sports. Now. I've heard people
on six different shows television and radio say the Ravens
really need to think about they need to pay Lamar.
This is they offered to pay Lamar more money they'd
ever paid anyone ever, more money than everybody in the
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NFL outside of one player to Shaun Watson. Because that's
a terrible contract. And I've been the one telling you
guys for six seven months, like, look, I actually think
Lamar has an argument, But he has an argument. The
argument is never been hurt like DeShawn tours a c L.
I don't have any of these off field issues like
he has. I have one m v P. DeShawn hasn't
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one m VP. Like normally you get a dollar more
than the guy before you. The difference is that, um,
there's like five quarterbacks Aaron Rodgers included, Russell Wilson included,
Derek Carr included, um Kyler Murray included. They have gotten
new contracts after Deshaun Watson got his contract, and they're
not the same as that it's by anyone's definition of
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an outlier anyway. The Ravens, it's all been reported that
before the season, they offered more money guaranteed in the
first three years than anybody else is getting in line
with how it generally has done. They just weren't willing
to go to what Cleveland's doing because everybody thinks Cleveland's
contract is a joke. It's a bad look, not just
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because what Deshaun Watson is coming off with all these
allegations and the suits that are settled, but because five
years guaranteed money in the NFL, which is the violent
sport where one hit can end your career, is stupid.
So we're not doing it. It doesn't mean they don't
want to pay him. It doesn't mean they don't want
to pay him more money than they've ever paid anybody.
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It doesn't mean they don't want and oh yeah, by
the way, while he's not technically under contract, he's actually
under contract for up to at least three more years.
So what's mind numbing about last night's win is not
that the Ravens found a way. That's what good teams do.
That's a good quarterbacks to that's what good franchises. Do
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just find a way to win a game on a
Monday night when you got half your roster and you're
on the road against a team that I don't know.
Maybe for half the game thought maybe we got a chance,
and they played great complimentary football. Run the ball, stop
the run. Make Andy Dalton beat us. He can't beat you.
He doesn't have the weapons and he's not good enough.
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That's not a good enough football team. That's a good win.
But we have to stop with this insane argument of well,
now the Ravens need to pay them. They want to
pay him. I just don't want to match the Deshaun
Watson contract. I think that's actually reasonable. But for whatever reason,
we have become a society of people that choose to
omit things to further our argument in the same way
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that politicians omit things. And we gotta stop. Maybe today
is the last day we can omit things, and then
tomorrow we come back to our senses because the mid
term elections are over and we can stop bussing people
into believing only half of the story. All right, there
we go, Happy election, by the way, go vote. Uh
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like track your ballot, Like, dude, really, I put it
in the mail. It's gonna get there. It's gonna get there.
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we're gonna talk cancer chiefs in a second. First, let
me kind of give you a rundown of a couple
of things that I have a strong opinion about. Um,
I'm gonna talk in the pod our talk to some
Jaylen Brown as Jalen Brown, who uh, he's doing something
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which I understand where he's like, look, Kyrie apologized, and
you know, end of the day, you apologize. Can't we
move on. I don't think he's anti Semitic at all.
He's also the vice president of the Players Association and
he doesn't like the five or six things that Um
that the Nets are telling him to do if he
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wants to come back and be a Net. The problem
is he's not taking into context all the other stuff
of Kyrie and how Kyrie handled it. We'll get to
that in the pod. Last night, Ravens beat the Saints Saints. UM.
The Saints have escaped much discussion because they're in New
Orleans and Sean Payton is the coach. But i mean,
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ask yourself, honestly, no matter what you think of Jameis
Winston before he's gotten hurt, whatever that roster, you have
thought last year, dominant defense, and you bring back Michael
Thomas Alvin Kamara. Especially as bad as the division has been,
They've been an abject disaster, some of it injuries. But
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the Ravens just found a way to win. And it's
one of the things about a team, and it's one
of those things as we kind of find a way
to get into a Chiefs discussion, I'm wondering if that's
what you're asking, buyer, which is do we think the
Chiefs are good because they just find a way to
win even when it's fairly ugly at times. UM, it's
it's part of that and it's part of of what
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we're talking about, um a little bit today. Again it
falls in standalone games, Uh, grab a lot of people's attention.
And it was just surprising to me, but it shouldn't
be surprising of what the narrative was coming off of
that Chiefs win against the Titans. Patrick Mahomes unbelievable. Mahomes
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does it again. Um, what a what a what a performance?
This is? I mean, this guy arms arm legs, just
does everything. This is this is our guy. And yet Doug,
when we go back to less than two seasons ago
when the Chiefs only had really Patrick Mahomes and that
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Super Bowl against the Buccaneers because they didn't have their
tackles and the offensive line was you know what it
was was. You know, they got blown out by the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And and I just look at at
Sunday's game and I know where a week removed from
them just turning on the Jets and blowing past the Fort.
But I just I think we hold these Kansas City
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like to this, to this not a standard, but we
put them on this pedestal when there is no way
the way that they won on Sunday night would be
sustainable in the in the NFL, like Patrick Mahomes throwing
the ball sixty eight times and not getting double digit
rushing yards from any of your running backs that you
have in the game, and like that is not sustainable.
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And what is lost in what Patrick Mahomes did was
it took that sort of herculean effort by Mahomes to
be a team that had a quarterback that couldn't complete
a pass down field and and and that's like, it's
it's such a I get Kansas City. If I'm making
the rankings of my top three teams in the National
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Football League, Doug, Kansas City is probably in there. But
when we want to look at these teams, and we
you know, people are still questioning Josh Allen, and there's
questions about the Eagles, and like, like we put the
Chiefs on such a pedestal that even when they don't
perform to their best of abilities, we are putting them
three tiers higher. I'm looking at an m v P
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pyramid from Nick Wright on Fox Sports One, which by
the way, I had m v P pyramid last year.
Just for the record, Patrick Mahomes is number one on
his list nixt nixt Kansas City, and he can't stop.
He's the only one who consists on constantly talking about
Kansas But there is a lot of positivity coming from
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Kansas City. And I and I just think that, like
we sit back home, Patrick Mahomes, like I, I that
Chief Charges games should be really good. Those two teams
play really good games and exciting games. But man, they
shove the Chiefs and Buccaneers down our throats when it
comes to national TV. And it's even more surprising Doug
to see it because we'll we'll, you know, pick apart
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pretty much everybody, but Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City kind
of gets Scott Freelick. They had a thing needed an
amazing comeback to beat the Malik Willis led Titans, and
I don't know it was Derrick Henry Lad but the
point being like it's not sustainable, but all we want
to do is just take the Chiefs and put them
on this petestal and be like, you know, gosh, you know,
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Gali g look at Kansas City and look at how
great Patrick Mahomes is. They also did a good job
with with with Kelsey right, they covered him a little differently,
not just safeties but also using using cover corners to
cover him, and they did. They did a good job
where he you know, obviously he's had games with four
touchdowns in it. Um, I agree with you. I actually
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who hardly agree with you. My my issue is it's
like the Charger game. Charger were better. They didn't win
the game Tennessee. Like I thought that was an incredible
coaching job by Tennessee, but they didn't win the game.
And there is something to Kansas City and MA homes
a bill need to win a game, even if they're
badly outplayed. So you're right, the problem is that they
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on they find ways to win games. Yeah, there are
a lot of good ways to do about it. But
what we're not talking about is we're not talking about,
like with would that sort of game be sustainable in
the playoffs? I don't think so. I don't I don't
think so. Yeah, I don't think so either. And and
what you know, it's you know, if you're constantly looking
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to bail you out, you're constantly throwing the football, there
will be turnovers. I'm I'm with you. I'm actually with
you on that. The other issue with it is I
get it. I don't think they're great. Tell me who is? Yeah, no,
you're You're absolutely right, and that same energy because we
want to make Kansas City be great. I don't think
we give it to the Eagles. I don't think we
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give it to the Buffalo Bills. I don't think we
don't trying to find another great team to mention Baltimore.
Maybe Baltimore. Um, you know, we don't give it. Charges
are five and three and everybody injured and blown some
really bad games. So your point is is correct. There
are a lot of great teams, but even the great
teams that we think are great, we're still wondering, you know,
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like can they do it? You know, can Josh Allen
do it in in this scenario? And and I just
I just looked at I just came back from Sunday
and it was this love fest from what we had
instead of just taking a look back and seeing the
effort that Patrick Mahomes had to provide to beat an
extremely shorthanded Tennessee Titans team at home in primetime. Can
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I ask you guys a question? This is uh um
you and Jays too, And roma was question. I'm some
of this is hypotheses. Now it feels like there's more
injuries this year, and there have been usually usually right, yes, yes, yeah,
um yeah, yes, especially being that didn't most of the team.
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I'm not saying all of them. I would saying didn't
most of the teams hold off all of their starters
for the majority of the three game preseason, which was
told to us to be why we you know, because
we don't want to get man injured. We we weren't
then to be good during sea and yet during the
season we still have Probably if more like you said, injuries,
then we would have. Okay, what's the one position that
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has the fewest number of injuries? Quarterback? Okay, I mean
go through the go through the league, and I know
Baker got hurt when he's back and the Baker is
gonna start um and Matt Ryan got hurt and he's back.
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But I think I tracted it was like twenty eight
out of thirty two or something. We're healthy, even if
they've changed quarterbacks. It wasn't. It was because of a
performance based right, Tannehill's hurt, he'll get his job when
he comes back. And by the way, to your point,
I tweeted this, uh Sunday night when I was watching
the game, Ryan Tannehill's job is safe. Maleek Willis, maybe
Sunday can play today? Is not that day. Can't look
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so uncomfortable throwing the football. They win the game, you know, Oh,
you know, I don't think there's any question they win
the game. I don't ask any question. They win the game,
even if we can pick apart their wide receiving corps. Um.
My belief in why there's so many injuries is the
same is that by holding guys out. And again I
don't have the data in front of me, so I
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could be wrong. I would guess that there's a higher
percentage of soft tissue injuries this year than there ever
have been previously. And um, and look, some of it
is unavoidable because you're trying to protect guys from from
the action, the helmet, the helmet contact, et cetera. And
this is what happens. But if you don't play enough football,
you're gonna get hurt playing football, but not get hurt
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playing football from the old contact, from all the pulled muscles,
all the torn every something something tear or something breaks.
I think that resting guys and keeping guys away from
nearly as much action, you know, and and this is
one of those things that it's a hypotheses and to
take probably five years to gather the data with this
number of practices and how they're operating. Now we won't
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have it for a while, but I think we'll come
back to you know, we weren't practicing enough. We went
from practicing too much, hitting too much, to not hitting enough.
I would also say that there are two other factors
that I believe. One is the increased length of the
season by the extra week in the extra game, and
also the added playoffs spot where there are certain injuries,
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and I think we we we recognize it a lot
in fantasy football because it's, oh, this guy's out, that
guy's out, this guy's on by, but then this guy
got hurt. So maybe we look at it from that,
you know point of view. Now with the extra playoffs spot,
you have an easier time getting into the playoffs and
all you have to do without the you know, the
two teams getting buys with only one team getting a by.
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It's just getting in and peeking at the right time.
I think the days of you know, sixteen and o
are obviously long gone. In a sixteen weeks season or
seventeen week season. But now I think teams want to
make sure they're ready by weeks thirteen or fourteen to
kind of make that push. And to play a guy
in week eight when you have a buy in week
nine or coming up in week ten doesn't make a
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lot of sense. No, I I agree with you, and
and some teams I think they're preparing for that final kick,
and then you know, you get to that final kick
and other guys that you need aren't healthy. So it's
a it's a it's a weird one, like my hope
is and this is the Charger fan in me that
they get healthy at the right time. But to steal
from Jason Stewart, we had this conversation yesterday having her
anything but uh, nothing on Joey bos To being back,
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nothing on Keenan Allen being back and Keen now and
it's just been a hamstring. So it's but you're you're right,
this is this is yes, John Ramas, you would think. Again,
nobody wants to lose. Noboe wants to say, hey, we're
gonna lose, But you would think, and I've always been
a big proponent of this, I don't think Philadelphia wants
to be undefeated, right going into My theory is always like,
you never want to be undefeated. You're bound to lose
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a game, and you don't want to be the Super
Bowl or the NFC championship games. So I was somewhere
along the line, they're gonna lose, right, whether it's why
why why? Why would you not want to be undefeated?
I just I've every time I see undefeated heep go
into like the March Madness or or anything. I I
stay away from him because they're not going to run
the gamut. But was one team ran the gamut? Right?
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Was it? Was it kentucting me seventy two Dolphins, right,
l Y went undefeated in the regular season a couple
of years ago. That was two thousand, So they scare me.
So anybody going into any playoffs like undefeated, I just
they're not gonna make it. I mean the Patriots went underfeld, right,
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but then they lost the Super Bowl, right right? That's
what I mean, is there not I lose the super
because they went underfeeding the regular season. They lose the
Super Bow because they couldn't protect Brady and um they
couldn't protect Brady and then David Tyree made an unbelievable
catch where he went when Eli should have been down
in the backfield. There you go. Those are things that happened.
The thing that I had. I think that they have
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to protect against in on. I think this is part
of what you're also saying, is like, if you're in
week fourteen or week fifteen worrying about keeping your perfect
record intact instead of how are we going to make
this playoff run, then you're you're different than the other teams,
and now you've got this additional distraction, you know, because
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in the in in that sort of world, even though
Dallas is winning, you likely would probably have your division
wrapped up. In most cases, if you're undefeated and there's
four games left, like you would be like, all right,
we're good. We can put this on cruise control. How
do we handle it. But now, if you're sitting there
focusing on winning games, maybe you're not getting ready for
your playoff push. Your more focused on your perfect record.
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Is that? Yeah? I just I just want to know
if you guys think like Philadelphia, nobody wants to lose.
No one goes to game. Hey, we need to lose
today because we don't want to be undefeated. They want
to keep winning. I'm just saying that. I just always
have this bad feeling about teams that are undefeated going
into the playoffs and stuff, because I just don't think
they can maintain They could have to be. Like you said, Doug,
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one team in the history of the NFL has got undefeated.
It's just not a good and plenty of teams that
lost the game. I mean Carolina lost the game, lost
in the Super Bowl. I don't think there's like, look,
here's the thing. Here's why I like being undefeated because
I want my players, or when I was a player,
I don't want there to even be a thought of
losing being a potential And if you don't lose, you
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sit there and go like we lose, hey, fellas, we
win games. That's what we do. Either way, you're kind
of convincing your mind, you know, I do I think it.
I think the better way to say it, just to me,
John would be, I don't think it. It kills you
or hurts you that bad if you lose an unfeeding season.
I think you want to be undefeated. And and Dan
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to your point, I do think that week seventeen Week
sixteen seventeen. The idea of going for it is a
little stupid, right, Rest your guys, be be the best
version of themselves, especially now that only one team gets
to buy take advantage of that right, be really rested,
really fresh mentally physically. But if you're undefeated, I don't
think that I don't think that hurts you. I just don't.
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know what time it is, right, Jason Stewart, You know
what time it is? What time is it? Uh, it's
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time to call everybody a racist. That's the time, UM,
because Jeff Saturday was hired because he hadn't coached in
the NFL, and somehow this has something to do with
blackhead coaches, right, which essentially makes Jimmer says hiring life
privilege and racially biased. Right. Keep in mind, this is
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the same organization that has had UM two coaches. Their
most successful coach ever was Tony Dune, who was who
was black, of course, and Jim Callwell who succeeded him,
and call Well the only limitations on him at times,
even in Detroit went into words health right, but this
idea that like, okay, now is Jim or Say a
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racist because he hired like I don't even understand now
you're racist? Not before when you hire black coaches, now
you are? Okay. Struggle with it. It is an outside
the box higher. It does have everybody talking. I think
it's funny that no one said boo when they're like, hey,
we're gonna name Steve Wilkes, the interim head coach of
the Caroline Panthers. Granted, Wilkes was a long time assistant
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with the Panthers before he left to be the head
coach of the Airs on the Cardinals. He was an
abject disaster as a head coach of the Cardinals. They
could not change coaches quick and as much as you
want to question Cliff Kingsbury, you're allowed to. They haven't
been good recently. They weren't good in the playoffs. They're
far more successful in the Cliff Kingsbury than they were
under under Steve Wilkes. You win three games in your
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one year's head coach and you could sit there and
go like, is he really qualified? But He's loyally organization
and they wanted him there. That's what Jeff Saturday is.
He's loyalty the organization. And whoever gets the interim job,
I mean, like, look, you can't do a better job
than Ritch Spasaccia did last year in vas Vegas. Did
he get the job? No, because the interim guy, I'm
not gonna get the job. The only difference here between
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this in Vegas is the fact that they're gonna keep
Chris Ballard Vegas. You're changing gms and presidents. That means
the whole thing is gonna get scrapped and redone. Obviously,
it hasn't been the better because of it. Let's catch
up with Mark Dominic. His entire professional career has been
in the front offices in nash Football League. After being
a scout in the NFL. He was most recently gentle
manager with the Tampai Buccaneers. He's Got the GM podcast
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with the Athletic He joins us every week, including right
now on the Doug Gotling Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, uh, first,
Frank Wright was fired. What do you think of them
firing him? Shocked? You know, just you know, it doesn't
make sense. For you. Over the last two and a
half weeks, we've heard say that Matt Ryan's one of
the best thingies ever been around. Off with Peyton Manning
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and then he gets to the bench and then he's
you know, the Frank Wrights, the guy that can help
us turn the ship around. And he gets fired, and
so they're running out of people to fire and and
things to do. So I did not see this coming
at all. I thought that Frank. You know, obviously I
don't know what happened in the internal dynamics with Matt
Ryan or who pushed the button for Carson Wentz, who
pushed the button for Matt Ryan, or who pushed whatever.
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But the problem is that, you know, the balance of
power or whatever, somebody's not making good decisions in the organization,
and obviously felt like he was the head coach. And
now they're uh, obviously gonna have a lot of new
stuff going on Indianapolis. Okay, So, Jeff Saturday name coach,
fresh out of an ESPN booth, what's your reaction? You know,
it's unique. I had a chance. You know, I worked
at the ESPN for five years and worked with Jeff
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up there too, and he's always had a coaching buck. Now,
I know he's coached in high school, and I get
that there's a huge, uh, you know, transition that's gonna happen.
He's look, he's going to go in there and he's
not gonna coach off and he's not gonna coach defense.
He's gonna make decisions during the game. And I think
that's gonna be interesting see how Jeff handles that, because
your point that everybody's probably everybody's point around the country.
It's like, well, you've never really done it before. No
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one's ever really been a head coach as they get
their first shot is out of the box. Absolutely, Is
it a surprise? Not completely. Jeff was very instrumental in, uh,
some of the different things that have happened with the
Colts over the years. I think he was part of
the group when they were trying to figure out who
the new GM was gonna be with Chris Pollard. So
he's been with the earth Stays or around the arth
Stays here for a while. And again Jeff has that buck.
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So is it completely unique. Yes, But you know, Josh
McCown almost became the head coach of Houston, Texas last
year and I didn't think that was crazy either. I
don't either. I don't either. And when you're and McCown
didn't have the experience in game experience of a Saturday
And again you tell me, like, just help people out
who don't understand the center gay has to has to
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call the protections. Right, the center works with the quarterbacks.
The whole quarterback room has to know everything. And you've
evaluated centers. Those guys are brilliant. Okay, offensive linemen generally
are brilliant. And you know when you're a center, you
have you have to be And as a head coach,
there's a lot of similarities there. Right, you gotta understand
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what the defense is doing and the protections. You gotta
have a way of talking to your quarterback, of understanding
what to do offensively, talking to the offensive coordinator. And look,
he's not recreating the wheel here. If you have other
people who you know that the things that he doesn't know,
do what what they don't know? Like again, I this
idea that he's never coaching for Yes and no, playing
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fifteen years in the NFL, starting at center with the sheriff,
is your quarterback your right hand man? That that helps
you way more than being an assistant with any other team.
It does have help a lot, and I think one
of the things that gets lost is I think a
lot of people look at television personalities like it's just Saturday,
or you know, again, I've done television for years. You know,
I still watched tape. It's not like I'm sitting around
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just kind of guessing and what's going to happen? And
I stuff against the wall. We watched tape. And when
we're on television or we're on the media or we're
on radio, we're not asked like, hey, what was it
like to win the game last week and you went
by fourteen? How was it? It was never those questions, right,
It's like what's wrong with the seat? What do you
see on tape? What's going on with the organization? And
so it's always those introspective questions you could ask. And
I do think it helps train you a little bit
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more than what if you're just sitting on the sideline
and you're just watching tape. So, yes, it's unique, and yes,
there are coaches that were passed over to John Fox
or Gus Bradley or whatever that have been coached in
the NFL, like you said with Steve Wilks, you know
where he got it because he's been a head coach
in the NFL before. But you know what it's it's
such a unique thing to do that. What if it
does have traction? What if it does work? And to
your point, like you know, I don't know if Chef
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Senator is gonna be the head coach of the football team.
Obviously in three highly highly unlikely, But what if you
can get to that locker, I mean kind of say
the right messaging, you know, because he's been there before.
And that's, to me, is probably the most unique thing
I would have loved or heard was Jeff addressed the
team and the coaching staff and what did he say,
because that's really the critical moment of like are these
guys gonna be like this is crazy? But he was like, yeah,
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let's go, let's try to see what we can do.
And I still think, to me, I don't know where
Jeff is on it. I think Matt Ryan still in
play if he gets himself healthy, I would agree. I'd
also tell you that I think he can. I don't
want to use the term spy, right, but you mentioned
his relationship with Jim Er say, as Jimmer says, trying
to figure out, like what sounds wrong with my team, right,
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you know, and you're like, what is wrong? Like on paper,
we should be way better than this. Who can give
you a better update than a guy who respects was
been was there when you were really good, and I I
can say like, look, I was there for the last
you know, nine games whatever, and here's my report, here's
here's here's it needs to go, here's he needs to stay.
Here's what you're like, here's what need to do. And
it's almost like coming in and being a consultant, only
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your name the head coach right to the exact same way,
and he's don't learn a lot more about the team.
You don't just to announce a Parks Fraser, who's the
assistant officer quarterback coach, is going to call plays And
here's the young guy that's I think he's about thirty
years old. I don't think he's ever been in a
position to call plays before. In Vectu was on the
deep at the side of the Baller College and then
got to be head coach back at the Colts back
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in two thousand and eighteen. So it's gonna be obviously,
what's this young guy and what made you choose him
over like a Scott malanch who's called played the NFL
and the bend quarterback coach, has been a head coach
up in Canada. He chose Parks Fraser, so we'll get
to learn a little bit more about him as well.
And maybe that's what the Colts want to do. They're like,
we see two as a disaster. It's not what we
expected to be. But let's find out as much as
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we can about everything we can in these last eight
to nine weeks. I you and I seem to be
lock step on this thing. Let's see for lockstep and
something else. I'm exceptionally frustrated today when I watched the
Ravens play and they win in the Mare plays well,
and look it was it was hard. It would be
not for any quarterback, right, I mean Johnny and Nitius,
Joe Montana, Damn Marino. You don't have your tight end
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who they use a ton in the offense. You don't
have your best wide receiver, you don't have your best
running back. You're on the road Grand New Orleans not
very good and they got their own issues. But you
gotta find a way to win the game. Okay, And
then what comes out of it is, well, the Ravens
have to pay Lamar. They want to pay Lamar, they
just don't want to pay more than Deshaun Watson's game.
They want five years guaranteed. Nobody in the NFL outside
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the Browns likes that deal. When you hear people say
pay Lamar as a former GM, what do you think? Yeah,
I think the Ravens have done a great job of
pretending like they were gonna try to get a deal
done and slowly not get a deal done so they
can get one more year of data, one more year
of data. And I wouldn't be surprised if the Ravens go, hey,
here's the franchise tag and we're gonna try to work
on a deal Lamar. And if Lamar continues to go
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for the five years fully guaranteed, there's gonna be little
movement on the Ravens side. But they're gonna push papers
back and forth. They're gonna see if they can get
the play to the franchise and they're getting great value
then because they're getting him for you know, six years,
maybe up to seven years before they really have to
commit two hundred and something million dollars. Lamar Jackson is
not gonna get a fully year in two contract. I
know the Ravens Fun office too well, I know their
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negotiators too well. They're not gonna put themselves out there
in that kind of situation. So this is where, you know,
it gets up to the large deciding what level does
he want to get to or be at in terms
of the guarantees or in terms of the overall compensation.
But there's no rush. And again you gotta remember there's
an owner there that say, hey, look, as long as
you can keep stopping me from right now four or
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fifty million dollar signings check, keep playing this out, because
that's just money I get to hold onto a little
bit longer that gets to grow from me. In fairness,
it's not even that much. It's actually more than that
because you have to basically gotta put three years up
front and escro right, Oh yeah, you're right. If right now,
if it's five years, you gotta put it all in escrow.
You gotta put it in escrow. Like people. No one understands.
It's it's really it's I had I had a GM
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tell me these two things. One he was like people
think if I save money that I get to keep
it myself. Like I don't, like I get I get
nothing right. I'm trying to get a whole roster together.
The other part that was explained to me was before
the season, when there's a thought that maybe you get
done before the season. My GM friend was like, no way,
because you can get close to those numbers without the
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full guarantees kind of cleverly put in different sort of bonuses.
But you can't do that unless you have an actual
agent doing it who understands understands how all that works.
And doing without an agent makes it almost impossible without
a long period of time to negotiate it. But the
guy I feel this way. You know, you know there's
agents out there that would happily will represent l large
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action for one percent, right, because one percent still two
two and fifty million dollars is still two point five
million bucks, right. So um, And to me, if you're
a player in this kind of a situation, especially a quarterback,
you could sign a deal where maybe the Ravens can
cut you after three years and you miss out and
you sign. Let's say you signed five years and fifty
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million dollars but the Ravens have triggers in it were like,
you know what, after you three, we can let him
go because we can do this to the contract, just
the contract, and he doesn't hit this and this doesn't guarantee,
and then in three years he's gone and he's got
his one hund four year one millions. Or you can
hire an agent who's like, no, we're gonna get four
years at least four years, Like we're gonna roll these
guarantees to make sure we get four years. So no
matter what, you're gonna walk on two or no. It
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So if you're Lamar Jackson and you don't want to
pay two five million dollars to make sure you get
another forty seven and a half billion dollars, that's where
it feels logical to me. And this kind of situation
was I think that I think a player like Lamar
Jackson should have an agent, and even at one percent
is not over paying for what you're geting in terms
of how you can protect you or she can protect
you in that contract language. I was taught by uh
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my ex father in law that to change the oil
and then I realized, like, you know what, this is
not what I do. Let somebody help pay the money.
Let somebody else change it. Because that way, if I
don't put a cap on or something, you know, I can,
I can, I can blame them. I agree with you, right,
but hire somebody to do it, and you just go
and play football and collect all the benefits from it. Um, alright,
I got a bunch of quick things to get to. Um.
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Grahams seem like an absolute mess, but I I I'm
fast by this jail In Ramsey kind of calling out
the offense for not winning the game. Meanwhile the defense
doesn't keep the Buccaneers from getting out of bounds. I
understand Jaalen Ramsey is a competitor, but this is classic
Jalen Ramsey. Things are going bad and now he's a
bit of a problem. Yeah, and I think he'll be
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okay because I think, uh, coach Morris will bring him
in a little bit. And you know it, there is
a part of him that's correct, like the defense is
playing well, but the offense just isn't finding its rhythm
or true and yes, in the final drive, you know,
is very unlike coach Morris because usually he's a boundary
protector and so I don't know if the players were
making mistakes or or if he wasn't called it right,
because that's not like for him. He usually knows that
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are like he usually plants guys that right on the right,
on the sideline or one yard off of it to
make sure that no matter what, just keep him in
bounds and fall on him and eat up eight to
ten more seconds. And so that was very bizarre to
me the way that they played defensively, because that's not
like them. So, you know, interesting film study, But you know,
I don't mind a player that gets frustrated and angry,
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and Jalen is a star in this league, and I
think it's okay for him to speak out a little bit.
You know, he's just got to make sure he keeps
his game at the level HiT's gotta be yet, because
you know, this always comes back around where next week
he's going to give up some long touchdown and people
and we're like, oh, see how this works. But that's
in the National Football League. But you know, the unique
think about the Rams, and I don't know it's it's
just me because they're coming off the Super Bowl. But
I think of all the teams that have a really
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terrible for some reason, I still didn't get it together
and kind a way to get to that splint spot
and and and make it to the post. He's gonna
be a team you don't want to play. But we'll
see what happens. But this is gonna be an interesting
weekend of games. Um, what do you do with your
green Day? Yeah? You know, I said last week, I
was kind of surprised that they said pat. You know,
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allegedly they were in the Chase Claypool discussion, but they
didn't get it done and so it didn't happen. Um,
you know, I think Green Bays in a really tough
spot because the concern is I see Aaron Rodgers and
he's talking everything like that, but at some point he's
going to get tired of playing like he's just gonna
be set up and like, you know, this isn't fun
anymore whatsoever, because he's never really kind of gone through
this type of experience and he's still very frustrated with
the skill set guys around it except for Aaron Jones,
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And I just worry that his Aaron there's you know,
start to like shut down the season two and be like,
you know, I've been m d P a couple of
times in a row and this is nothing like that,
and this isn't fun anymore. And now he gets frustrated
and starts pressing, and really the rest of the teams
just kind of falling apart. Uh. I don't see a
lot that they can do. I mean, I keep looking
this team going, who's going to step up at the
wide receiver room? Tonyon is trying to do what you
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can at the tight end room, but still there's just
no difference maker on offense besides obviously Aaron Jones. And
and you know they're going to play a Cowboys team
that I think the Cowboys can bury this team and
knock them out of everything because it'll be three and seven. Yeah,
you can still at the independent seven. But this isn't
a Packers team that's gonna make a five or six
game run. I just don't feel that sending them offensively
that they can do that. Uh last thing, And and
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I know you gotta go what we do we do
as well. Um let's circle back to Tampa. Tom did win,
but man, it didn't look good like it's just kind
of petering out and they may make the playoffs. This
division is is so bad Um, what do you think
Tom does at the end of the season. I think,
no matter what, I think, it's in the last year,
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I think I feel like I see it. I think
it's been frustrated. I don't think it's has been as fun. Obviously,
winning helps cure a lot of that stuff. And to
your point, the Bucks can still win this division and
get out of here, especially when we saw what it
would happened to the Saints in the way they played.
So uh, you know, Tampa is getting a good, good
test with Seattle, who has been just completely consistent. But
I think Tom Brad at the end of the year
hangs it up and walks away and just kind of like, look,
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I've done what I've got to do. If you can
get this team to the playoffs. She goes to Tampa Bay,
puts him in the postseason three times, wins the super Bowl.
You know, there's just not much more to do, and
I think that this is it for him personally. Awesome stuff. Mark,
can't wait talk talk next week. Thanks so much of
your time. Good alright, Mark, Mark Dominic twenty years in
the NFL. That's what's really people that, that's what people
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night's football game, which I was inaccurate in my selection
of the New Orleans Saints winning the game. My logic
behind the New Orleans Saints winning the game isn't because
I think the New Orleans Saints are any good. I
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don't uh Andy Dalton's are starting quarterback. The defensive hasn't
been the same, even though Dennis Allen was the architect
of that defense last year. And obviously the offense has
left a lot a lot to be desired. It does
feel like at some point Alvin Kamarow is going to
be suspended for a long time. Michael Thomas stopped, if
you've heard this before, is hurt yet again. Like all
of these things, the Saints aren't good. But I saw
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who Baltimore was bringing in with Lamar Jackson on offense,
you know, and I was like, man, you got running
backs down, receiver down, Mark Andrews, down, your your your
favorite option, your number one right receiver, your number one
pass catching target and your number one running back all
out didn't look good. And yet they found a way, right,
they found a way. And I think part of the
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genius to that offense, the genius to how Baltimore plays,
is that not just not just running back, right, not
just running back quarterback. It's in short, in a short
period time, it's not crazy hard to replace. And like, wait,
(02:57):
so you're saying that because last year's backup came in
that you should replace Lamar Jackson's not what I said.
It's not what I said. What I said is for
a short period of time, it's easier to get somebody
to come in and run essentially a college offense and
run the football forty times last night, shorten the game,
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and play to your defense, which is improved with the
additions recently, most notably ro Quan Smith was awesome last night,
not surprisingly in the three four He's awesome. But the
same reason roe Kuan Smith is traded is the same
reason that I just I'm blown away by the things
that people say about Lamar Jackson. Yes, he completed twelve
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passes the ten different receivers because none of them are
particularly good, right, they just are I mean, hell, I
didn't know Deshan Jackson was back with the Ravens. I
had forgotten. Did you guys remember that Kenyan Drake ends
up running for ninety three. Lamar Jackson runs for eight two.
They combined for uh thirty five rushing attempts and they
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win the game. And you know, Andy Dalton turns it
over once. They can't run the football at all, right,
I think it's three point two yards and carry only
run at fifteen times. It was a time of possession
disaster for the New Orleans Saints and the Ravens were
the far better team. Ravens held the ball thirty seven
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minutes forty seven seconds. The Saints had the ball two
minutes thirteen seconds. Classic, run the football, keep the change moving,
keep your defense out the field, and then you can
unleash your pass rush on Andy Dalton because they can't
run the football. And then one but you'll hear people say, like,
you need to pay Lamar Jackson. Why isn't Baltimore pay him?
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Why do we omit? The truth is because we want
to win some sort of stupid argument. Why do we
do that? Because the idea of paying him would lead
you to believe like you didn't know anything about the situation,
and you had people go on radio and TV today
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and say, you need to pay Lamar Jackson. Okay, first
of all, everyone who plays in the NFL is getting paid.
That's why they called professional athletes. The Baltimore Ravens want
to keep Lamar Jackson. They don't want to trade him.
They don't want to lose in free agency, and they're
not going to you know why, because he's not actually
a free agent. Well, his contract expires this year. Yeah,
(05:36):
not really. There's the franchise tag, and there's another franchise tag,
and if they want to there's a transitional tag into
your three. It would cost him a lot of money.
But the fact is that if they don't want him
to leave, he's not going anywhere for the next three
years at least at least. So this thing of you
need to pay him, well, he was offered a report
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over two in guarantees. Do you do you these two? All?
I what I want to hear from people who say
you have to pay him is do you want to
pay him more than Deshaun Watson? If you're there, hey,
God bless you. Nobody in the NFL is there. They're
they're not. They all think that contract is bad. Is
a joke, is one that is a is a bad
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look for the NFL. And some of it, in all honesty,
is because the Shaun's coming off of the suspension. Some
of it, though, is because Deshaun Watson signed a big
guaranteed contract in Houston and then only months later decided
I want out collected the first three years and never
played it down on a contract in Houston. I didn't
play it down, but it's more the idea of five
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years guaranteed for a guy who runs like it's not
I love the not a running quarterback mm hmm, okay,
running quarterback in the NFL, and last night was the
first night of college basketball? Is the mid is the
term mid major to college basketball, which is most people
either don't know what it means or just simply want
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to avoid the reality of the truth of what it means.
Mid Major is not a bad word, and being a
running quarterback is not a bad word. He's the greatest thrower.
He's the greatest combination runner thrower in the history of
the NFL. He's not the scrambler passer of Steve Young,
but in terms of pure running who can also throw.
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That's Slammar Jackson and he's like no man dominated last night,
Like come on man. He had a hundred and thirty
three yards passing, and in fairness to him, he didn't
have his full wide receiving corps. In fairness to the Ravens,
I've heard people say they don't invest in wide and
wide receivers. That's funny. They drafted two first round draft
picks at wide receivers since he's been there. The year
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he was drafted, they drafted first round draft pick at
tight end end. Mark Andrews is actually I believe the
second highest paid tight end. He was the highest paid
tight end coming in the season. Travis Kelsey gets a
new deal, he's the second highest paid tight end. They
have a ton of money locked up in the offensive line,
so there's a lot of money that has been spent
around Lamar Jackson. J K. Dohm is the second round pick. Right,
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So they've given up first round picks for wide receivers
in the tight end, second round pick for running back,
and they haven't invested in it. No, they haven't gone
out and gotten free agents one because the team doesn't
believe in it. The team doesn't believe in high priced
wide receiver free agents. They draft their wide receivers generally
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generally and do a good job of driving him. And secondly, stainly,
why do you need to I mean, look at the
wide receivers who have signed as free agents and it's
hit or miss. And oh yeah, by the way, wide
receivers aren't exactly thrilled with how he throws the football.
Sometimes they love. Everybody loves Lamar Jackson. The dude, great dude,
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great dude. But you don't hear wide receiving going. You
know what I want to go. I want to go
to Baltimore where they run the football three quarters of
the time. It's effective, it works. It's just hard to
recruit anybody to come as a free agent. Rightfully so,
and honestly, they don't want to pay that much money
because they want to win based upon running the football,
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playing great defense. And then every once in a while
Lamar has an explosive play because the guy throws the
ball downfield really well. But I I I've heard on
like six different shows today like, man, they really need
to pay Lamar Jackson. They never said they weren't going
to pay Lamar jack This is exhausting. You are all
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exhausting because what you will do. And I'm so glad
today is election day, which means we get to stop
hearing all these nonsensical uh uh commercials. I'll give you one.
I'll give you one. There's um there was something done
in California. I don't know if you guys know this
one Ramos and Jason Stewart where um recently, recently the
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governor moved and this is how it was reported by some.
The governor moved to to to change whether or not
somebody would automatically be labeled a sex offender if they
were caught having relations with somebody who's underage, if the
span of years is ten or less. Okay, So this
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is a real thing, a real thing in politics where
if you are uh, if it's a same sex crime,
the governor of California has pushed to change whether or
not you get it, you're labeled as a sex offender
if the span of years is it's at the discretion
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of the judge. And when you hear that, you're like, what,
what are we even possibly talking about? How could you
possibly do that? Right? Then you actually read further, read
all the details and the discretion of the judge is
actually the same if it's a heterosexual act. You're like, oh,
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so the idea is like, look, if you're not automatically
labeled with something that I think all of us actually agree,
like I would actually have done the opposite, which is,
if that happens between somebody's less than ten years but
you're twenty three and they're sixteen, it should be an automatic.
I guess they don't because it's nuanced. But the fact
is we're just trying to even out the laws, right,
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that's the idea behind it. Let's just even out so
that are a homosexual, that doesn't matter crime against somebody
younger at the discretion of the judge. I like the automatic,
but okay, discretion of the judge most I would say,
any judge is going to rule in the exact same way.
But what happens is we omit it half of it.
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That's who we become. We're disgraceful, and it's just it's
obviously different crimes against children. I'm a human being plus
a father, I'm equally sensitive. So when I heard it,
I was like, what, this is crazy? How could you
do that? Then I read further and I was like, Okay, well,
I don't like the previous rule. I wish they both
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changed or they both changed back to the right. We
do the same thing in sports. Now. I've heard people
on six different shows television and radio say the Ravens
really need to think about they need to pay Lamar.
This is they offered to pay Lamar more money they'd
ever paid anyone ever, more money than everybody in the
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NFL outside of one player to Shaun Watson. Because that's
a terrible contract. And I've been the one telling you
guys for six seven months, like, look, I actually think
Lamar has an argument, But he has an argument. The
argument is never been hurt like DeShawn tours a c L.
I don't have any of these off field issues like
he has. I have one m v P. DeShawn hasn't
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one m VP. Like normally you get a dollar more
than the guy before you. The difference is that, um,
there's like five quarterbacks Aaron Rodgers included, Russell Wilson included,
Derek Carr included, um Kyler Murray included. They have gotten
new contracts after Deshaun Watson got his contract, and they're
not the same as that it's by anyone's definition of
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an outlier anyway. The Ravens, it's all been reported that
before the season, they offered more money guaranteed in the
first three years than anybody else is getting in line
with how it generally has done. They just weren't willing
to go to what Cleveland's doing because everybody thinks Cleveland's
contract is a joke. It's a bad look, not just
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because what Deshaun Watson is coming off with all these
allegations and the suits that are settled, but because five
years guaranteed money in the NFL, which is the violent
sport where one hit can end your career, is stupid.
So we're not doing it. It doesn't mean they don't
want to pay him. It doesn't mean they don't want
to pay him more money than they've ever paid anybody.
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It doesn't mean they don't want and oh yeah, by
the way, while he's not technically under contract, he's actually
under contract for up to at least three more years.
So what's mind numbing about last night's win is not
that the Ravens found a way. That's what good teams do.
That's a good quarterbacks to that's what good franchises. Do
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just find a way to win a game on a
Monday night when you got half your roster and you're
on the road against a team that I don't know.
Maybe for half the game thought maybe we got a chance,
and they played great complimentary football. Run the ball, stop
the run. Make Andy Dalton beat us. He can't beat you.
He doesn't have the weapons and he's not good enough.
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That's not a good enough football team. That's a good win.
But we have to stop with this insane argument of well,
now the Ravens need to pay them. They want to
pay him. I just don't want to match the Deshaun
Watson contract. I think that's actually reasonable. But for whatever reason,
we have become a society of people that choose to
omit things to further our argument in the same way
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that politicians omit things. And we gotta stop. Maybe today
is the last day we can omit things, and then
tomorrow we come back to our senses because the mid
term elections are over and we can stop bussing people
into believing only half of the story. All right, there
we go, Happy election, by the way, go vote. Uh
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I mailed mine in I don't know you have people
like track your ballot, Like, dude, really, I put it
in the mail. It's gonna get there. It's gonna get there.
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it's a level respect we have for our friends. So
we're gonna talk cancer chiefs in a second. First, let
me kind of give you a rundown of a couple
of things that I have a strong opinion about. Um,
I'm gonna talk in the pod our talk to some
Jaylen Brown as Jalen Brown, who uh, he's doing something
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which I understand where he's like, look, Kyrie apologized, and
you know, end of the day, you apologize. Can't we
move on. I don't think he's anti Semitic at all.
He's also the vice president of the Players Association and
he doesn't like the five or six things that Um
that the Nets are telling him to do if he
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wants to come back and be a Net. The problem
is he's not taking into context all the other stuff
of Kyrie and how Kyrie handled it. We'll get to
that in the pod. Last night, Ravens beat the Saints Saints. UM.
The Saints have escaped much discussion because they're in New
Orleans and Sean Payton is the coach. But i mean,
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ask yourself, honestly, no matter what you think of Jameis
Winston before he's gotten hurt, whatever that roster, you have
thought last year, dominant defense, and you bring back Michael
Thomas Alvin Kamara. Especially as bad as the division has been,
They've been an abject disaster, some of it injuries. But
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the Ravens just found a way to win. And it's
one of the things about a team, and it's one
of those things as we kind of find a way
to get into a Chiefs discussion, I'm wondering if that's
what you're asking, buyer, which is do we think the
Chiefs are good because they just find a way to
win even when it's fairly ugly at times. UM, it's
it's part of that and it's part of of what
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we're talking about, um a little bit today. Again it
falls in standalone games, Uh, grab a lot of people's attention.
And it was just surprising to me, but it shouldn't
be surprising of what the narrative was coming off of
that Chiefs win against the Titans. Patrick Mahomes unbelievable. Mahomes
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does it again. Um, what a what a what a performance?
This is? I mean, this guy arms arm legs, just
does everything. This is this is our guy. And yet Doug,
when we go back to less than two seasons ago
when the Chiefs only had really Patrick Mahomes and that
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Super Bowl against the Buccaneers because they didn't have their
tackles and the offensive line was you know what it
was was. You know, they got blown out by the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And and I just look at at
Sunday's game and I know where a week removed from
them just turning on the Jets and blowing past the Fort.
But I just I think we hold these Kansas City
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like to this, to this not a standard, but we
put them on this pedestal when there is no way
the way that they won on Sunday night would be
sustainable in the in the NFL, like Patrick Mahomes throwing
the ball sixty eight times and not getting double digit
rushing yards from any of your running backs that you
have in the game, and like that is not sustainable.
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And what is lost in what Patrick Mahomes did was
it took that sort of herculean effort by Mahomes to
be a team that had a quarterback that couldn't complete
a pass down field and and and that's like, it's
it's such a I get Kansas City. If I'm making
the rankings of my top three teams in the National
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Football League, Doug, Kansas City is probably in there. But
when we want to look at these teams, and we
you know, people are still questioning Josh Allen, and there's
questions about the Eagles, and like, like we put the
Chiefs on such a pedestal that even when they don't
perform to their best of abilities, we are putting them
three tiers higher. I'm looking at an m v P
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pyramid from Nick Wright on Fox Sports One, which by
the way, I had m v P pyramid last year.
Just for the record, Patrick Mahomes is number one on
his list nixt nixt Kansas City, and he can't stop.
He's the only one who consists on constantly talking about
Kansas But there is a lot of positivity coming from
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Kansas City. And I and I just think that, like
we sit back home, Patrick Mahomes, like I, I that
Chief Charges games should be really good. Those two teams
play really good games and exciting games. But man, they
shove the Chiefs and Buccaneers down our throats when it
comes to national TV. And it's even more surprising Doug
to see it because we'll we'll, you know, pick apart
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pretty much everybody, but Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City kind
of gets Scott Freelick. They had a thing needed an
amazing comeback to beat the Malik Willis led Titans, and
I don't know it was Derrick Henry Lad but the
point being like it's not sustainable, but all we want
to do is just take the Chiefs and put them
on this petestal and be like, you know, gosh, you know,
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Gali g look at Kansas City and look at how
great Patrick Mahomes is. They also did a good job
with with with Kelsey right, they covered him a little differently,
not just safeties but also using using cover corners to
cover him, and they did. They did a good job
where he you know, obviously he's had games with four
touchdowns in it. Um, I agree with you. I actually
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who hardly agree with you. My my issue is it's
like the Charger game. Charger were better. They didn't win
the game Tennessee. Like I thought that was an incredible
coaching job by Tennessee, but they didn't win the game.
And there is something to Kansas City and MA homes
a bill need to win a game, even if they're
badly outplayed. So you're right, the problem is that they
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on they find ways to win games. Yeah, there are
a lot of good ways to do about it. But
what we're not talking about is we're not talking about,
like with would that sort of game be sustainable in
the playoffs? I don't think so. I don't I don't
think so. Yeah, I don't think so either. And and
what you know, it's you know, if you're constantly looking
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to bail you out, you're constantly throwing the football, there
will be turnovers. I'm I'm with you. I'm actually with
you on that. The other issue with it is I
get it. I don't think they're great. Tell me who is? Yeah, no,
you're You're absolutely right, and that same energy because we
want to make Kansas City be great. I don't think
we give it to the Eagles. I don't think we
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give it to the Buffalo Bills. I don't think we
don't trying to find another great team to mention Baltimore.
Maybe Baltimore. Um, you know, we don't give it. Charges
are five and three and everybody injured and blown some
really bad games. So your point is is correct. There
are a lot of great teams, but even the great
teams that we think are great, we're still wondering, you know,
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like can they do it? You know, can Josh Allen
do it in in this scenario? And and I just
I just looked at I just came back from Sunday
and it was this love fest from what we had
instead of just taking a look back and seeing the
effort that Patrick Mahomes had to provide to beat an
extremely shorthanded Tennessee Titans team at home in primetime. Can
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I ask you guys a question? This is uh um
you and Jays too, And roma was question. I'm some
of this is hypotheses. Now it feels like there's more
injuries this year, and there have been usually usually right, yes, yes, yeah,
um yeah, yes, especially being that didn't most of the team.
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I'm not saying all of them. I would saying didn't
most of the teams hold off all of their starters
for the majority of the three game preseason, which was
told to us to be why we you know, because
we don't want to get man injured. We we weren't
then to be good during sea and yet during the
season we still have Probably if more like you said, injuries,
then we would have. Okay, what's the one position that
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has the fewest number of injuries? Quarterback? Okay, I mean
go through the go through the league, and I know
Baker got hurt when he's back and the Baker is
gonna start um and Matt Ryan got hurt and he's back.
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But I think I tracted it was like twenty eight
out of thirty two or something. We're healthy, even if
they've changed quarterbacks. It wasn't. It was because of a
performance based right, Tannehill's hurt, he'll get his job when
he comes back. And by the way, to your point,
I tweeted this, uh Sunday night when I was watching
the game, Ryan Tannehill's job is safe. Maleek Willis, maybe
Sunday can play today? Is not that day. Can't look
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so uncomfortable throwing the football. They win the game, you know, Oh,
you know, I don't think there's any question they win
the game. I don't ask any question. They win the game,
even if we can pick apart their wide receiving corps. Um.
My belief in why there's so many injuries is the
same is that by holding guys out. And again I
don't have the data in front of me, so I
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could be wrong. I would guess that there's a higher
percentage of soft tissue injuries this year than there ever
have been previously. And um, and look, some of it
is unavoidable because you're trying to protect guys from from
the action, the helmet, the helmet contact, et cetera. And
this is what happens. But if you don't play enough football,
you're gonna get hurt playing football, but not get hurt
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playing football from the old contact, from all the pulled muscles,
all the torn every something something tear or something breaks.
I think that resting guys and keeping guys away from
nearly as much action, you know, and and this is
one of those things that it's a hypotheses and to
take probably five years to gather the data with this
number of practices and how they're operating. Now we won't
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have it for a while, but I think we'll come
back to you know, we weren't practicing enough. We went
from practicing too much, hitting too much, to not hitting enough.
I would also say that there are two other factors
that I believe. One is the increased length of the
season by the extra week in the extra game, and
also the added playoffs spot where there are certain injuries,
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and I think we we we recognize it a lot
in fantasy football because it's, oh, this guy's out, that
guy's out, this guy's on by, but then this guy
got hurt. So maybe we look at it from that,
you know point of view. Now with the extra playoffs spot,
you have an easier time getting into the playoffs and
all you have to do without the you know, the
two teams getting buys with only one team getting a by.
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It's just getting in and peeking at the right time.
I think the days of you know, sixteen and o
are obviously long gone. In a sixteen weeks season or
seventeen week season. But now I think teams want to
make sure they're ready by weeks thirteen or fourteen to
kind of make that push. And to play a guy
in week eight when you have a buy in week
nine or coming up in week ten doesn't make a
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lot of sense. No, I I agree with you, and
and some teams I think they're preparing for that final kick,
and then you know, you get to that final kick
and other guys that you need aren't healthy. So it's
a it's a it's a weird one, like my hope
is and this is the Charger fan in me that
they get healthy at the right time. But to steal
from Jason Stewart, we had this conversation yesterday having her
anything but uh, nothing on Joey bos To being back,
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nothing on Keenan Allen being back and Keen now and
it's just been a hamstring. So it's but you're you're right,
this is this is yes, John Ramas, you would think. Again,
nobody wants to lose. Noboe wants to say, hey, we're
gonna lose, But you would think, and I've always been
a big proponent of this, I don't think Philadelphia wants
to be undefeated, right going into My theory is always like,
you never want to be undefeated. You're bound to lose
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a game, and you don't want to be the Super
Bowl or the NFC championship games. So I was somewhere
along the line, they're gonna lose, right, whether it's why
why why? Why would you not want to be undefeated?
I just I've every time I see undefeated heep go
into like the March Madness or or anything. I I
stay away from him because they're not going to run
the gamut. But was one team ran the gamut? Right?
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Was it? Was it kentucting me seventy two Dolphins, right,
l Y went undefeated in the regular season a couple
of years ago. That was two thousand, So they scare me.
So anybody going into any playoffs like undefeated, I just
they're not gonna make it. I mean the Patriots went underfeld, right,
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but then they lost the Super Bowl, right right? That's
what I mean, is there not I lose the super
because they went underfeeding the regular season. They lose the
Super Bow because they couldn't protect Brady and um they
couldn't protect Brady and then David Tyree made an unbelievable
catch where he went when Eli should have been down
in the backfield. There you go. Those are things that happened.
The thing that I had. I think that they have
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to protect against in on. I think this is part
of what you're also saying, is like, if you're in
week fourteen or week fifteen worrying about keeping your perfect
record intact instead of how are we going to make
this playoff run, then you're you're different than the other teams,
and now you've got this additional distraction, you know, because
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in the in in that sort of world, even though
Dallas is winning, you likely would probably have your division
wrapped up. In most cases, if you're undefeated and there's
four games left, like you would be like, all right,
we're good. We can put this on cruise control. How
do we handle it. But now, if you're sitting there
focusing on winning games, maybe you're not getting ready for
your playoff push. Your more focused on your perfect record.
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Is that? Yeah? I just I just want to know
if you guys think like Philadelphia, nobody wants to lose.
No one goes to game. Hey, we need to lose
today because we don't want to be undefeated. They want
to keep winning. I'm just saying that. I just always
have this bad feeling about teams that are undefeated going
into the playoffs and stuff, because I just don't think
they can maintain They could have to be. Like you said, Doug,
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one team in the history of the NFL has got undefeated.
It's just not a good and plenty of teams that
lost the game. I mean Carolina lost the game, lost
in the Super Bowl. I don't think there's like, look,
here's the thing. Here's why I like being undefeated because
I want my players, or when I was a player,
I don't want there to even be a thought of
losing being a potential And if you don't lose, you
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sit there and go like we lose, hey, fellas, we
win games. That's what we do. Either way, you're kind
of convincing your mind, you know, I do I think it.
I think the better way to say it, just to me,
John would be, I don't think it. It kills you
or hurts you that bad if you lose an unfeeding season.
I think you want to be undefeated. And and Dan
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to your point, I do think that week seventeen Week
sixteen seventeen. The idea of going for it is a
little stupid, right, Rest your guys, be be the best
version of themselves, especially now that only one team gets
to buy take advantage of that right, be really rested,
really fresh mentally physically. But if you're undefeated, I don't
think that I don't think that hurts you. I just don't.
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Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug gott
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know what time it is, right, Jason Stewart, You know
what time it is? What time is it? Uh, it's
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time to call everybody a racist. That's the time, UM,
because Jeff Saturday was hired because he hadn't coached in
the NFL, and somehow this has something to do with
blackhead coaches, right, which essentially makes Jimmer says hiring life
privilege and racially biased. Right. Keep in mind, this is
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the same organization that has had UM two coaches. Their
most successful coach ever was Tony Dune, who was who
was black, of course, and Jim Callwell who succeeded him,
and call Well the only limitations on him at times,
even in Detroit went into words health right, but this
idea that like, okay, now is Jim or Say a
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racist because he hired like I don't even understand now
you're racist? Not before when you hire black coaches, now
you are? Okay. Struggle with it. It is an outside
the box higher. It does have everybody talking. I think
it's funny that no one said boo when they're like, hey,
we're gonna name Steve Wilkes, the interim head coach of
the Caroline Panthers. Granted, Wilkes was a long time assistant
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with the Panthers before he left to be the head
coach of the Airs on the Cardinals. He was an
abject disaster as a head coach of the Cardinals. They
could not change coaches quick and as much as you
want to question Cliff Kingsbury, you're allowed to. They haven't
been good recently. They weren't good in the playoffs. They're
far more successful in the Cliff Kingsbury than they were
under under Steve Wilkes. You win three games in your
(32:58):
one year's head coach and you could sit there and
go like, is he really qualified? But He's loyally organization
and they wanted him there. That's what Jeff Saturday is.
He's loyalty the organization. And whoever gets the interim job,
I mean, like, look, you can't do a better job
than Ritch Spasaccia did last year in vas Vegas. Did
he get the job? No, because the interim guy, I'm
not gonna get the job. The only difference here between
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this in Vegas is the fact that they're gonna keep
Chris Ballard Vegas. You're changing gms and presidents. That means
the whole thing is gonna get scrapped and redone. Obviously,
it hasn't been the better because of it. Let's catch
up with Mark Dominic. His entire professional career has been
in the front offices in nash Football League. After being
a scout in the NFL. He was most recently gentle
manager with the Tampai Buccaneers. He's Got the GM podcast
(33:39):
with the Athletic He joins us every week, including right
now on the Doug Gotling Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, uh, first,
Frank Wright was fired. What do you think of them
firing him? Shocked? You know, just you know, it doesn't
make sense. For you. Over the last two and a
half weeks, we've heard say that Matt Ryan's one of
the best thingies ever been around. Off with Peyton Manning
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and then he gets to the bench and then he's
you know, the Frank Wrights, the guy that can help
us turn the ship around. And he gets fired, and
so they're running out of people to fire and and
things to do. So I did not see this coming
at all. I thought that Frank. You know, obviously I
don't know what happened in the internal dynamics with Matt
Ryan or who pushed the button for Carson Wentz, who
pushed the button for Matt Ryan, or who pushed whatever.
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But the problem is that, you know, the balance of
power or whatever, somebody's not making good decisions in the organization,
and obviously felt like he was the head coach. And
now they're uh, obviously gonna have a lot of new
stuff going on Indianapolis. Okay, So, Jeff Saturday name coach,
fresh out of an ESPN booth, what's your reaction? You know,
it's unique. I had a chance. You know, I worked
at the ESPN for five years and worked with Jeff
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up there too, and he's always had a coaching buck. Now,
I know he's coached in high school, and I get
that there's a huge, uh, you know, transition that's gonna happen.
He's look, he's going to go in there and he's
not gonna coach off and he's not gonna coach defense.
He's gonna make decisions during the game. And I think
that's gonna be interesting see how Jeff handles that, because
your point that everybody's probably everybody's point around the country.
It's like, well, you've never really done it before. No
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one's ever really been a head coach as they get
their first shot is out of the box. Absolutely, Is
it a surprise? Not completely. Jeff was very instrumental in, uh,
some of the different things that have happened with the
Colts over the years. I think he was part of
the group when they were trying to figure out who
the new GM was gonna be with Chris Pollard. So
he's been with the earth Stays or around the arth
Stays here for a while. And again Jeff has that buck.
(35:27):
So is it completely unique. Yes, But you know, Josh
McCown almost became the head coach of Houston, Texas last
year and I didn't think that was crazy either. I
don't either. I don't either. And when you're and McCown
didn't have the experience in game experience of a Saturday
And again you tell me, like, just help people out
who don't understand the center gay has to has to
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call the protections. Right, the center works with the quarterbacks.
The whole quarterback room has to know everything. And you've
evaluated centers. Those guys are brilliant. Okay, offensive linemen generally
are brilliant. And you know when you're a center, you
have you have to be And as a head coach,
there's a lot of similarities there. Right, you gotta understand
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what the defense is doing and the protections. You gotta
have a way of talking to your quarterback, of understanding
what to do offensively, talking to the offensive coordinator. And look,
he's not recreating the wheel here. If you have other
people who you know that the things that he doesn't know,
do what what they don't know? Like again, I this
idea that he's never coaching for Yes and no, playing
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fifteen years in the NFL, starting at center with the sheriff,
is your quarterback your right hand man? That that helps
you way more than being an assistant with any other team.
It does have help a lot, and I think one
of the things that gets lost is I think a
lot of people look at television personalities like it's just Saturday,
or you know, again, I've done television for years. You know,
I still watched tape. It's not like I'm sitting around
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just kind of guessing and what's going to happen? And
I stuff against the wall. We watched tape. And when
we're on television or we're on the media or we're
on radio, we're not asked like, hey, what was it
like to win the game last week and you went
by fourteen? How was it? It was never those questions, right,
It's like what's wrong with the seat? What do you
see on tape? What's going on with the organization? And
so it's always those introspective questions you could ask. And
I do think it helps train you a little bit
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more than what if you're just sitting on the sideline
and you're just watching tape. So, yes, it's unique, and yes,
there are coaches that were passed over to John Fox
or Gus Bradley or whatever that have been coached in
the NFL, like you said with Steve Wilks, you know
where he got it because he's been a head coach
in the NFL before. But you know what it's it's
such a unique thing to do that. What if it
does have traction? What if it does work? And to
your point, like you know, I don't know if Chef
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Senator is gonna be the head coach of the football team.
Obviously in three highly highly unlikely, But what if you
can get to that locker, I mean kind of say
the right messaging, you know, because he's been there before.
And that's, to me, is probably the most unique thing
I would have loved or heard was Jeff addressed the
team and the coaching staff and what did he say,
because that's really the critical moment of like are these
guys gonna be like this is crazy? But he was like, yeah,
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let's go, let's try to see what we can do.
And I still think, to me, I don't know where
Jeff is on it. I think Matt Ryan still in
play if he gets himself healthy, I would agree. I'd
also tell you that I think he can. I don't
want to use the term spy, right, but you mentioned
his relationship with Jim Er say, as Jimmer says, trying
to figure out, like what sounds wrong with my team, right,
(38:21):
you know, and you're like, what is wrong? Like on paper,
we should be way better than this. Who can give
you a better update than a guy who respects was
been was there when you were really good, and I I
can say like, look, I was there for the last
you know, nine games whatever, and here's my report, here's
here's here's it needs to go, here's he needs to stay.
Here's what you're like, here's what need to do. And
it's almost like coming in and being a consultant, only
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your name the head coach right to the exact same way,
and he's don't learn a lot more about the team.
You don't just to announce a Parks Fraser, who's the
assistant officer quarterback coach, is going to call plays And
here's the young guy that's I think he's about thirty
years old. I don't think he's ever been in a
position to call plays before. In Vectu was on the
deep at the side of the Baller College and then
got to be head coach back at the Colts back
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in two thousand and eighteen. So it's gonna be obviously,
what's this young guy and what made you choose him
over like a Scott malanch who's called played the NFL
and the bend quarterback coach, has been a head coach
up in Canada. He chose Parks Fraser, so we'll get
to learn a little bit more about him as well.
And maybe that's what the Colts want to do. They're like,
we see two as a disaster. It's not what we
expected to be. But let's find out as much as
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we can about everything we can in these last eight
to nine weeks. I you and I seem to be
lock step on this thing. Let's see for lockstep and
something else. I'm exceptionally frustrated today when I watched the
Ravens play and they win in the Mare plays well,
and look it was it was hard. It would be
not for any quarterback, right, I mean Johnny and Nitius,
Joe Montana, Damn Marino. You don't have your tight end
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who they use a ton in the offense. You don't
have your best wide receiver, you don't have your best
running back. You're on the road Grand New Orleans not
very good and they got their own issues. But you
gotta find a way to win the game. Okay, And
then what comes out of it is, well, the Ravens
have to pay Lamar. They want to pay Lamar, they
just don't want to pay more than Deshaun Watson's game.
They want five years guaranteed. Nobody in the NFL outside
(40:12):
the Browns likes that deal. When you hear people say
pay Lamar as a former GM, what do you think? Yeah,
I think the Ravens have done a great job of
pretending like they were gonna try to get a deal
done and slowly not get a deal done so they
can get one more year of data, one more year
of data. And I wouldn't be surprised if the Ravens go, hey,
here's the franchise tag and we're gonna try to work
on a deal Lamar. And if Lamar continues to go
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for the five years fully guaranteed, there's gonna be little
movement on the Ravens side. But they're gonna push papers
back and forth. They're gonna see if they can get
the play to the franchise and they're getting great value
then because they're getting him for you know, six years,
maybe up to seven years before they really have to
commit two hundred and something million dollars. Lamar Jackson is
not gonna get a fully year in two contract. I
know the Ravens Fun office too well, I know their
(40:55):
negotiators too well. They're not gonna put themselves out there
in that kind of situation. So this is where, you know,
it gets up to the large deciding what level does
he want to get to or be at in terms
of the guarantees or in terms of the overall compensation.
But there's no rush. And again you gotta remember there's
an owner there that say, hey, look, as long as
you can keep stopping me from right now four or
(41:15):
fifty million dollar signings check, keep playing this out, because
that's just money I get to hold onto a little
bit longer that gets to grow from me. In fairness,
it's not even that much. It's actually more than that
because you have to basically gotta put three years up
front and escro right, Oh yeah, you're right. If right now,
if it's five years, you gotta put it all in escrow.
You gotta put it in escrow. Like people. No one understands.
It's it's really it's I had I had a GM
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tell me these two things. One he was like people
think if I save money that I get to keep
it myself. Like I don't, like I get I get
nothing right. I'm trying to get a whole roster together.
The other part that was explained to me was before
the season, when there's a thought that maybe you get
done before the season. My GM friend was like, no way,
because you can get close to those numbers without the
(41:57):
full guarantees kind of cleverly put in different sort of bonuses.
But you can't do that unless you have an actual
agent doing it who understands understands how all that works.
And doing without an agent makes it almost impossible without
a long period of time to negotiate it. But the
guy I feel this way. You know, you know there's
agents out there that would happily will represent l large
(42:19):
action for one percent, right, because one percent still two
two and fifty million dollars is still two point five
million bucks, right. So um, And to me, if you're
a player in this kind of a situation, especially a quarterback,
you could sign a deal where maybe the Ravens can
cut you after three years and you miss out and
you sign. Let's say you signed five years and fifty
(42:40):
million dollars but the Ravens have triggers in it were like,
you know what, after you three, we can let him
go because we can do this to the contract, just
the contract, and he doesn't hit this and this doesn't guarantee,
and then in three years he's gone and he's got
his one hund four year one millions. Or you can
hire an agent who's like, no, we're gonna get four
years at least four years, Like we're gonna roll these
guarantees to make sure we get four years. So no
matter what, you're gonna walk on two or no. It
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So if you're Lamar Jackson and you don't want to
pay two five million dollars to make sure you get
another forty seven and a half billion dollars, that's where
it feels logical to me. And this kind of situation
was I think that I think a player like Lamar
Jackson should have an agent, and even at one percent
is not over paying for what you're geting in terms
of how you can protect you or she can protect
you in that contract language. I was taught by uh
(43:26):
my ex father in law that to change the oil
and then I realized, like, you know what, this is
not what I do. Let somebody help pay the money.
Let somebody else change it. Because that way, if I
don't put a cap on or something, you know, I can,
I can, I can blame them. I agree with you, right,
but hire somebody to do it, and you just go
and play football and collect all the benefits from it. Um, alright,
I got a bunch of quick things to get to. Um.
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Grahams seem like an absolute mess, but I I I'm
fast by this jail In Ramsey kind of calling out
the offense for not winning the game. Meanwhile the defense
doesn't keep the Buccaneers from getting out of bounds. I
understand Jaalen Ramsey is a competitor, but this is classic
Jalen Ramsey. Things are going bad and now he's a
bit of a problem. Yeah, and I think he'll be
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okay because I think, uh, coach Morris will bring him
in a little bit. And you know it, there is
a part of him that's correct, like the defense is
playing well, but the offense just isn't finding its rhythm
or true and yes, in the final drive, you know,
is very unlike coach Morris because usually he's a boundary
protector and so I don't know if the players were
making mistakes or or if he wasn't called it right,
because that's not like for him. He usually knows that
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are like he usually plants guys that right on the right,
on the sideline or one yard off of it to
make sure that no matter what, just keep him in
bounds and fall on him and eat up eight to
ten more seconds. And so that was very bizarre to
me the way that they played defensively, because that's not
like them. So, you know, interesting film study, But you know,
I don't mind a player that gets frustrated and angry,
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and Jalen is a star in this league, and I
think it's okay for him to speak out a little bit.
You know, he's just got to make sure he keeps
his game at the level HiT's gotta be yet, because
you know, this always comes back around where next week
he's going to give up some long touchdown and people
and we're like, oh, see how this works. But that's
in the National Football League. But you know, the unique
think about the Rams, and I don't know it's it's
just me because they're coming off the Super Bowl. But
I think of all the teams that have a really
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terrible for some reason, I still didn't get it together
and kind a way to get to that splint spot
and and and make it to the post. He's gonna
be a team you don't want to play. But we'll
see what happens. But this is gonna be an interesting
weekend of games. Um, what do you do with your
green Day? Yeah? You know, I said last week, I
was kind of surprised that they said pat. You know,
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allegedly they were in the Chase Claypool discussion, but they
didn't get it done and so it didn't happen. Um,
you know, I think Green Bays in a really tough
spot because the concern is I see Aaron Rodgers and
he's talking everything like that, but at some point he's
going to get tired of playing like he's just gonna
be set up and like, you know, this isn't fun
anymore whatsoever, because he's never really kind of gone through
this type of experience and he's still very frustrated with
the skill set guys around it except for Aaron Jones,
(45:58):
And I just worry that his Aaron there's you know,
start to like shut down the season two and be like,
you know, I've been m d P a couple of
times in a row and this is nothing like that,
and this isn't fun anymore. And now he gets frustrated
and starts pressing, and really the rest of the teams
just kind of falling apart. Uh. I don't see a
lot that they can do. I mean, I keep looking
this team going, who's going to step up at the
wide receiver room? Tonyon is trying to do what you
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can at the tight end room, but still there's just
no difference maker on offense besides obviously Aaron Jones. And
and you know they're going to play a Cowboys team
that I think the Cowboys can bury this team and
knock them out of everything because it'll be three and seven. Yeah,
you can still at the independent seven. But this isn't
a Packers team that's gonna make a five or six
game run. I just don't feel that sending them offensively
that they can do that. Uh last thing, And and
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I know you gotta go what we do we do
as well. Um let's circle back to Tampa. Tom did win,
but man, it didn't look good like it's just kind
of petering out and they may make the playoffs. This
division is is so bad Um, what do you think
Tom does at the end of the season. I think,
no matter what, I think, it's in the last year,
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I think I feel like I see it. I think
it's been frustrated. I don't think it's has been as fun. Obviously,
winning helps cure a lot of that stuff. And to
your point, the Bucks can still win this division and
get out of here, especially when we saw what it
would happened to the Saints in the way they played.
So uh, you know, Tampa is getting a good, good
test with Seattle, who has been just completely consistent. But
I think Tom Brad at the end of the year
hangs it up and walks away and just kind of like, look,
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I've done what I've got to do. If you can
get this team to the playoffs. She goes to Tampa Bay,
puts him in the postseason three times, wins the super Bowl.
You know, there's just not much more to do, and
I think that this is it for him personally. Awesome stuff. Mark,
can't wait talk talk next week. Thanks so much of
your time. Good alright, Mark, Mark Dominic twenty years in
the NFL. That's what's really people that, that's what people
(47:45):
really think
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