May 12, 2023 • 47 mins
On the Friday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug gives his main takeaways from the Sixers' loss to the Celtics in game 6 in Philly.
Doug talks about the weekend and why people who ordinarily wouldn't spend a Friday night watching NBA should watch the Lakers-Warriors game 6 tonight.
Doug weighs in on Kevin Durant after his exit from the playoffs. NBA Insider Marc Stein joins Doug to do the obituary on the Suns, talk about the Celtics and the Lakers.
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Speaker 4 (00:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I hate this, but this is a case where it's needed.
You're like, what do you hate? Well, there's things that
I hate in life, right. I don't like meetings. I
don't I don't like like formal meetings. You know where
we need an agenda.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I don't like that. I don't like dress shoes. I've
never liked dress shoes.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
One of the great things about our generation is we've
kind of done away with dress shoes right now.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
People was very comfortable where sneakers.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
With whatever, jeans with whatever. But even with sneakers with slacks,
you gotta find the right sneakers. You can't wear high
tops whatever. But I don't like dress shoes. Never been
a dress shoe guy. Throw pillows, never send the need
for it. I've changed and wavered a little bit on
the top sheet. I didn't grow up with the top sheet,
(01:38):
and you know, there was a long time there when
I didn't like the top sheet. But now you know,
obviously with my sleep number bed, I don't run hot
all the time, but when I run hot, I kind
of need a top sheet instead of having the covers,
so I vacillate. But I don't really need a top sheet.
I don't like fish when it's cooked inside, even though
(02:00):
I like eating.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Fish, usually off the grill.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
There's just things in life that I don't like, and
I don't like about my job. I don't like the
did the Sixers lose or did the Celtics win? But
last night the answer is yes. But it's a great topic,
like as on one hand, the Sixers had complete control
of the game. Jason Tatum could make a shot and
(02:24):
yet the Sixers could not step on the throat of
the Celtics. And on the other hand, you had Jason
Tatum who's just hung around, hung around, and they believed
him enough to get more shots, more opportunities, and he
made them down the stretch. We'll break down who's at
fault or who won or who lost in a second.
Here's Joel Embiid first on how he was utilized or
(02:46):
underutilized in late minutes.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
We stopped moving the ball and I don't think I
touched the ball the last four minutes of the game.
I gotta be, you know, more demanding, but kind of
went away from what was walked came at the beginning
on about four quarter. As a big, it's hard to
you know, go get the ball and you know just create,
you know, for yourself. But I just gotta go get it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
He's right, you got at some level you got to
demand the basketball, demand the basketball. Some of them not
getting was by design by the Celtics, but a lot
of it is you got to demand the ball. Here's
Jason Tatum, who was absolutely dreadful until the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
I'm one of the humbly one of the best basketball
players in the world.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
You know, go through struggles, go through slumps.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I love that I'm one of the best basketball players
in the world. He also then went and credited his
teammates with continue to encourage him and to keep them
close until ultimately made shots.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Here's Tatum on his night.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
You know, I gotta give a lot of credit to
my teammates, Right, they were extremely vocal throughout the game, right,
encouraging I mean, I mean, I'm being transparented, frustrated. Right,
you want to win it so bad, you want to
play so well, and you know, shots not falling, things
just now necessarily going your way, and you want it.
You want it so bad. Trying to stay present, trying
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to stay in a moment, try and do other things.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I love that he's he was trying to not let
it bother him, that he wasn't making shots. I love
that he encouraged, got the encouragement of his teammates. I mean,
all of that is good stuff, which leads us to
the question and when people ask did a team winner
didn't team lose it? Like I think the answer is yes.
(04:34):
It's interesting because it's very easy and rightfully so, to
be critical of the Sixers and of Doc Rivers, who
once again had a series leave and is now stuck
in a game seven. We can also be honest and
say didn't they just you know, go in and thoroughly
dismantle the Celtics who slept walk through Game five? Like
we're allowed to be critical of the Sixers now, but
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aren't we shouldn't we also be critical of the Celtics,
and you know, we're acting like the Celtics mental state
was out of it for Game five and they only
got alerted to it at the end of Game six.
I don't know, but I do think the Celtics went
out and won the game, and embiid not demanding the.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Ball and not getting the ball was why. I know.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
The football expression is more games are lost than one,
but I think in this particular case the game was.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
One and then lost and then lost.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
But all of that pales in comparison to tonight. Tonight's
the game right Tonight's again. You don't even have to
be a Warriors or a Lakers fans.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
There's so many elements at play today.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
First, it's at Crypto, which is formerly Staples, which is
the second most prominent arena in the sport. Masisve Square
Garden is the biggest one, but it is the most
the world's most arena, but in the sport, I would
say that's number one and Staples is number two. And
you're very it's very fair to go like, hey, when
(06:06):
was the last big game, really big game before tonight?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Right, tonight's in New York. Oh, no tonights in Miami.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
When's the last really big game in New York that
actually mattered? Whereas with Crypto, we have all of the
Lakers championships of the Kobe Bryant era and the three
with Shaq and the two with Pal those were all
in Crypto, which was then Staples. Whereas the Knicks, they
have been to the finals since OJ, but there's been
(06:34):
plenty of other, albeit regular season games and college games
where it New York's different. It's special, but you have
because of the star quality of the fans, the energy
will be there.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
It's Lebron and Steph.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Lebron's team famously came from three games to one down
to beat the Warriors, but the Warriors also came from
three games to one down to beat the thunder and
now Steph's got a chance to do it. Back to Lebron, like,
there's a lot here. You got injuries, you have the
potential end of the Warriors era. You also have whatever
(07:12):
surprising championship window there is for the Lakers. If even
if it goes to seven and they win, you gotta
wonder about their conditioning getting ready for the Western Conference
finals for that to play on the road in Denver,
in altitude. But you can't get there without winning one
more game. Tonight is the game Steph and Lebron. Steph
(07:36):
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and foremost? Are you watching tonight's game? Are you setting
aside time to watch the night's game or you're doing something.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
With your ladies?
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Oh no, I'm watching tonight. There's so many great angles
to this game, so much interest. I want to I
actually I think Waki told you yesterday, and I agree
with this. If there's a game for Lebron to have
like one of his thirty point triple doubles, I think,
and they win tonight, I think that goes a long
way towards what we've been talking about since the beginning
(08:20):
of these playoffs, Lebron's acceptance by the Lakers fans as
a Laker. I think, like one of those signature games,
in a close out game like this, I think we
go a long way. You agree completely, there's.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I think there's two different parts to it.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I think what he's done, how he's played, how they
came to his defense after uh he was called old
in the previous series.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
He feels like he's become a Laker.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
But losing a three games to one lead, what does
if they lose this series? What does every Laker fan says?
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Every Laker fan, Well, I I blame Anthony Davis, But.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Will every Laker fan say if Lebron's team lose the
three games one.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
League, Kobe wouldn't have lost.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Correct, Bingo, you get the big door prize, You know
Kobe wouldn't have lost three games one.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Seriously, Buyer, tell me I'm wrong. There's just no right.
I mean, my way.
Speaker 8 (09:25):
Off on, dog, I'll tell you what I want to
do is you're right. You're right, Doug. Don't you tell
me what I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
No, you're right, right, every stinking Laker fan, if they
lose this series, like.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Come on, man, Kobe would have lost three one.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
He would have taken he would have taken the ball,
and he would have personally made sure that they beat
the Golden State Warriors. Like again, Kobe has taken on
such mythical I had this discussion last night. Okay, so again,
I fully disclose this. I he was not a Kobe
Bryant fan.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
It was not.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I was always in awe of his talent. I like
the fact that he played both ends. But I was
not a Kobe Bryant fan. I just I thought he
was selfish and took bad shots like he just I
thought he was a lesser version of Michael Jordan. But
he tried so hard for so long to be Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
But man, he took.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And so last night I was watching and I had
this kind of my good friend of mine, Mike, Mike
calls me, He's like, man, he's a Celtics things.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I'm the I'm I feel like they're gonna give me
a heart attack.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I was like, God, I was like, does Tatum take
an easy shot? It feels like every shot he takes
is like, how can I make this a harder level
of difficulty? Just so it's a harder level of difficulty.
And the guy it most reminds me of is Kobe Bryant.
Where I remember going to a Laker game once and
watching and going like he didn't take one easy shot
(10:53):
the whole time. It was like a regular season game
and every game, and part of it is how he
was defended, but part of it was like that was
just Kobe, like, man, you force some shots, and that's
that's how Tatum kind of plays, like, yeah, those are
hard shots. You can just take easy mid range pull
ups or just it's like everyone he has to make
(11:13):
a dribble and sidestep into a three that's contested and
throw out his leg. But that that's not how Laker
fan sees it, because Kobe was tragically killed in his
prime in a helicopter accident and Kobe won them five titles.
Is that Kobe walks on water and there's no way
(11:34):
Kobe Bryant's team would lose eight three games to one lead.
That's so Jay Stude, that's what he's up against.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
That's great up again.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Yeah, that's what he's up against.
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He had some storms, thunderstorms you know that happens in
May in the Midwest and southeast Southwest last night. But
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I thought Ramos coming in the tank top was a
(12:21):
little bit much today, but I get Ramos that gun
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Speaker 6 (12:28):
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Jay Stow's even working on his tan Jayce dou you're
going for a hike this weekend. He's always posting hike videos.
You haven't jumped off any sort of thing, and he
had no daredevil stuff in the last year.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
What's going on there?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (12:52):
I got to do that. I have yet to do
it since I started working here, But yes, skydiving is
is on the docket, and then maybe a bungee jump.
But the hiking is just like, that's just something that's
been introduced to my life for the last three or
four years. My girlfriend loves it and she's got me
(13:12):
into living it.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
I never thought just walking outside for a few hours
was going to be fun or gratifying or change my.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Life, but it has change your life.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Yeah. There's something about being in the nature and smelling
nature and being among the I don't know, animals. Yeah,
I don't know what it is, but it it. It
has a market like a marketably what's the word I'm
looking for it marketbly Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Markedly, markedly.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
It has changed my life markedly. Yeah, from a mental
health standpoint and physical stampoint.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
This is the happy you.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Oh yeah, this is You've got me at my happiest guys.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Wow, that's that one.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
That one's a because on the pod we do You're annoying,
which is BA Who's annoying Jason Stewart And it's a
long list. We have to parry down that list every day.
This is the happy Jason to know, but I agree.
Here's here's when I hike in California. I have, I've
gone for ikes, and I I do enjoy it. I
think a lot of it's the company, but also the
fact you're off your phone. But I'll tell you the
(14:17):
thing I like the best is uh spring in California.
This smells. It smells like old California smells like when
we were kids a little bit. And what is the
what are the different smells and flowers that it's.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
It's very unique. It's really really unique. Like you do
smell the what's the purple flower? Is that jasmine?
Speaker 9 (14:40):
What is it?
Speaker 6 (14:41):
Yeah, that's when you lose me. I'm not a botany guy.
That's a body.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's just but you you would agree, Like there's a
there's a smell, and it especially when you go into
like the canyons in California and the mountains and the
hill regions, it has a different like it has a
nature smell and then nature smell in California is different
than nature smell on the East Coast, different than the
nat your smell and in other in the north Northwest
is whatever, but it is there is a smell that
kind of takes your mind to a different place.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
I have a question.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I have an hour different than the smell in downtown
LA and in the valley at times which the smells
are getting closer to New York smells.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Yes, I have allergies. Is that constitute that I like
to walk as well? I don't know about up into
the the the uh wilderness wilderness type, But does allergies
prevent that.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
From me being? Yeah, okay, it's going to be a challenge.
I think you should still do it.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Take a little cleraton or was it zykac?
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Is that the other one is which.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
When you first feel like you're getting sick, it's about okay,
less than the blow. But I don't think you need
zycam uh any sort of allergy man. The benadrill makes
you a little sleepy, but that's not bad. That sleepy, sleepy,
sleepy John. Or you can do the allergy shots. One
of my daughters says, the allergy shots. I think actually,
by the way your connection with nature on it, that's
I mean, Dan loves all but I think also, I
(16:02):
mean it's that's his kind of therapy, right, That's where
you get out there and you kind of smell nature
and you hit the ball and.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
There's a big part of Yes, the surroundings amazing.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Because you love working on your yard.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So it's kind of much the same thing, right you
just you like the not just being off your phone,
but being with plants and smelling the grass and smelling
the flight.
Speaker 8 (16:23):
Yeah, yard work is a little different for me. Like
I would love to mow the lawn. We don't have
a big enough lawn for me to want it, so
we just had somebody else to do it. But like
I had to replant the a plant yesterday and you
got to dig out the rock bed, had to pull
out the weeds, and then I had to dig it up.
And by the end of it, I'm like, all right,
this is I'm done. I'm just I'm I don't want
(16:45):
to do this anymore. And so it's a different feeling
where in golf you're really enjoying the surroundings. But yeah,
there are there are there there are there are ties
that bind it. But my wife tried to use though,
well you love to garden, It's like, no, I don't
want our yard to look like crap. That's why I'm
doing it.
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you know, it really works out well here at seven
(17:42):
at night, like you can go and get out in nature.
You can do a hike, work on your yard and
then PLoP yourself down and kind of go old school.
I guess remember TV dinners Man when you had the
tinfoil used to roll back and then I don't know
if you had this in your home, like we had
those trays that were like would stand up and then
(18:03):
you have the you put the TV dinner on top
of the tray, and you, just like my dad, would
completely ignore anybody else except if they were talking during
a big portion of the game, in which they would
get the i'm watching the game here. That's what tonight's
game is. That's what tonight's game is like. You don't
really have to be like a hardcore basketball fan to
(18:23):
be like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm an And I actually
thought so, I thought of this, and I want to
kind of wind these two together. Did you guys see
the schedule release video that the NFL had This they
went around, was that was that Times Square that they
asked people felt like Timeshville? Okay, now it was downtown Nashville,
(18:45):
and the Titans asked people.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Well, they showed them the team mascot, right.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
They showed the logo the logo. Right. They showed the
logo of each of the.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Teams that the Titans were playing. And this was a
couple of the reactions.
Speaker 9 (19:07):
St.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Louis Rams Queen, the Chargers, by the way, I charge
were white, naw the Queen.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
The Boston Bobcats, No, I had the.
Speaker 10 (19:26):
White, but.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
The Cowboys were the Colts Baltimore, Baltimore Oriole.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Baltimore's were the Ravens right, Yeah, so it was. But
but what it spoke to me was like, and is
we think us guys think everybody knows about sports. I mean,
my my own daughter came into the I was watching
(19:58):
Lakers Warriors two nights ago and we were getting ready
she won, We were gonna binge watch It's Queen Charlotte
show she likes watching. And I was like, as soon
as the game is over, will will watch it? And
She's like, Okay, Who's who's who?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
And I was like, what the Lakers? Which one are
they like with the Laker uniforms on? Like how are you?
Speaker 9 (20:19):
My child?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
But she's now she.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Can quote chapter and verse any horse anywhere in America
and what they do and who their rider is and
how high they jump in all this stuff. And a
buddy of mine says this, it's really good. Is you
do realize that at least one hundred and fifty to
two hundred million people do not.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Watch the Super Bowl?
Speaker 9 (20:37):
Like what?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, so I'm fully understanding that. Use that NFL schedule
video as your guide. Tonight there will be three hundred
and twenty five million people who won't watch Lakers Warriors,
but they're missing out cause it's the game is fun. Like,
(21:00):
say what you want about how the Warriors play, like
it seems like it's a good time. The ball's moving,
they're shooting threes, they're spraying you all out, you know.
Then they're driving in and throwing out the loops, are
kicking it out. They have what looks like a lamup
of kicking.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Out for a three. Like it's fun.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
And you have his two historically great players. It's the
old and I hate this expression, but I'll use it.
You can't tell the story of the NBA without the
story of Steph Kerry, Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
But it's true.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You have the opposite style of the Lakers that they
don't shoot the three very well. They've had like some
random guy every game they've won, one of the random
also guys steps up make shots. You got Lebron who
he just kind of like. There are moments in which
he looks like Lebron and there are moments like, man,
he looks tired. He looks really tired, and it's in Staples.
(21:49):
Here's one also also happened the other night. My daughter's
like they kept showing Jack. She's like, who is that
Jack Nicholson? Who's Jack Nilson? It's like I did have
her watch As Good as It Gets one time, was
like you remember the movie as Good as It Gets?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He's like sort of with the dog, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
So maybe I'm not I'm doing a poor job of
child rearing, but I think it's this is one in
which you grab the other three hundred and twenty five
million people and go like this is kind of a
big thing, because if they vanquished the Warriors, it does
feel like the Warriors are gonna there's gonna be some
wholesale changes and if they don't, now all of a sudden,
(22:34):
there is so much pressure on the Lakers. You don't
want to be another team that loses three games to win.
And the truth is, like every game is so different
from the last. The Warriors had a ton of opportunities
to win two of the games that they've lost that
it's not that far fetched a thought to think the
(22:56):
Warriors can come in and get a win or win
two more games. But it was three to one. It
is Lebron James, it is the Lakers. And there are
times in which they've looked dominant, and the Warriors have
looked old in some of their own rights, and like
they're just chucking out three point shots to try and
keep it close. I don't know tonight to night where
(23:19):
I get that people want to hike and people want
to cook out, and people want to do all these
other things on a Friday night.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
But man, you got to have a TV on, got
to have a TV on a watch one, yes, Romos, do.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
You think it gets harder as a coach, being that
you know you've coached and stuff for just as a
team to play the same team over and over and
over again? You would think like you would find a
way to get better against them, or to find you
things that work better. But do you do you think
it's just hard to just beat a team over and
over again and see them over and over again all
(23:50):
the time, like like you know, this is the last
time the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
I looked at this.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
The last time the Lakers lost three games in a
row was February of twenty twenty three, So that was
almost what March templemat That's almost three and a half
months ago that they lost three consecutive games in a row.
And yet you know, they lose tonight and they could
be on the verge of losing three consecutive games. So
do you think it's just seeing the same team over again?
Is that Is that hard for a coach to kind
of focus on the same team again and again and again.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I think it?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I Well, the NBA is weird, right, The NBA is weird.
And by the way, I got a great reminder here
on from TJ. TJ hits me up on Instagram at
Gottlieb Show. You do know that Kobe blew a three
games one lead in two thousand and six. Again, try
and convince a Kobe Bryant Laker fan. Oh no, no, see,
(24:39):
I see what happened was it doesn't matter what happened.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
That's a great point.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Can I can I answer John's question because we were
giving proof of it the other night when when they
did the Inside tracks with Darvin Ham.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
Did you guys see that? You guys don't give up
right now? You gotta rebound. Don't don't give in.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Rebound more. You gotta rebound. I love that.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
That's do you Here's this is an honest question. Do
you lose respect for a guy when you go like, hey,
what do you think about the game, Like what game?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Like?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
There's a couple of exceptions, right.
Speaker 8 (25:39):
I don't lose respect. I just it's unfortunate that he
and I are not going to be able to connect.
Speaker 10 (25:46):
That happened to me.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
Had a party years back. A guy was asking me
about fantasy football, and it just I didn't feel sorry
for him because I'm the doorc who plays it, but
he was just so far from reality of what fantasy
football is.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Like.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
I think he even asked me, like, what do you
do in March, you know, And I'm like, well, we
don't do anything, you know, Like you just just you're
not able to You're just not able to connect in
that sort of world.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
My first thanksgiving up at ESPN. This is real. I
don't know if I told you guys this story. I
moved in this neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I mean I probably should have moved into West Hartford
where it was much more populous, But I got a
house in a town called Burlington's like fifteen twenty minutes
from work. I love this little It was like a
private street kinda, and we had a couple of acres.
Mostly it was like a long driveway and then your
backyard was like wooded, but I had neighbors on both sides,
(26:46):
and one of my neighbors in their house was like
kind of below us, like if you walked off of
our driveway, there's like steps down, and they had their
own really nice and they had two little girls, and
I forget what the guy did for a living. But
we didn't have a frigerator. We moved in, Like I
remember moving into like, ah, the fridge will be easy.
It was like no, it's a counter depth frigerator. You
gotta order it special. So we so we actually borrowed
(27:09):
from our neighbors, like it was like a college fridge,
and we moved in I don't know, I want to
say like early mid November. So Thanksgiving time comes round
and they're like, don't cook. You don't have a fridge
for its store stuff, Like just come down and have
some of our food. We got family coming over, and
you know, we were getting to like two o'clock in
(27:30):
the afternoon, and finally I was just like are we
gonna Are you guys gonna watch the game? And I
remember them saying, like what game. It's like it's Thanksgiving football?
What football games are? It's like Lions and Cowboys are on.
At some point in time, you know, like, this is
not that hard, and I remember thinking to myself, at
no point is there ever going to be a sports
conversation with this guy that'll ever be legitimate.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
So that's the yet, right, which is my nice way
of saying, We're not ever gonna be friends. We're not
ever gonna be friends. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 9 (28:01):
Dan?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Can you be friends with somebody who doesn't watch Dan
Byer's got breaking news?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Let's it's even more than maybe what I.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Got breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
A joint statement has just been released that Josh Harris
and the Washington Commanders have entered into a purchase and
sale agreements. That agreement taking place today, Commission should Say
Commanders co owners Tanya and Dan Snyder releasing a statement
saying they're very pleased to have reached an agreement for
the sale of the Commander's franchise, with Josh Harris, adding
(28:35):
we look forward to the prompt completion of this transaction
and to rooting for Josh and the team in the
coming years. There was a report earlier today saying that
Snyder was trying to limit the release of the investigation
into his team by Mary Joe White and trying to
use that as leverage. The Commanders have denied that, and
now the Commanders have been an agreement has been made
(28:57):
for Dan Snyder and his wife Tanya to say, tell
the team to Josh Harris.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
All right, good, I mean, let's Josh Harris also owns
part of the Sixers, right, Let's hope they can close
this thing out unlike the Sixers couldn't.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Close this thing out last night?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Is that the national nightmare of the Commanders is over?
I just I continue to tell you this like look,
I have no reasonably that Dan Snyder is a good guy.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Feels like a bad guy.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
But it is interesting that for how many years have
been calls to sell the New York Knicks, and because
they've been so much better this year, no one said
a word about Jim Dolan selling.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Uh, Snyder selling the team means that they'll have a
new stadium soon, and the question becomes, do they move
it back to DC at old RFK and redo that thing,
or do they push it further into the suburbs.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Gonna be interesting.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
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Show Fox Sports Radio. Mark Stein will join us in
a moment steinline, this guy knows what about what's going
on in the NBA?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Wow, So, I guess here's the question. Kevin Durant really
didn't shoot the basketball well.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
But I mean that's a team with no bench, and uh,
you know, they didn't have Chris Paul they're starting guard.
I don't know if you still there.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I guess still their point guard though he plays off
the ball bunch, and didn't have DeAndre Ayton.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
So you don't have two of your top five on
a team that really goes like six deep. And what
did what did you expect to have happened? You know,
what do you expect to have happened?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
So it wasn't really a surprise of last night. Denver
Nuggets are really good. Nikola Jokicic is really good, and
you know you're starting the game with Jock Landel guarding
him right like, I'm not sure what anyone expected to
have happened. But the question becomes, like we make so
(31:41):
much of people's legacies based upon how their team does
in the playoffs. It's really interesting. Now you go back
two years ago, he's with the Brooklyn Nets, He's playing
incredibly well. Kyrie Irving gets hurt, he still nearly carries
the Nets past the eventual champion Milwaukee Bucks. Then and
in that summer, he's the best player by a mile
(32:04):
on the Olympic team by a mile.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Go back, and if you remember, like.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Damian Lillard kind of struggled, other guys kind of struggled,
and yet Kevin Durant was the guy.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
He was the guy.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Second straight Olympic team, he was the guy carries them.
They win a gold medal, comes back to Brooklyn and
was having a great year, MVP caliber year, and he
hurts his knee, comes back and because they're banged up,
has to play a ton. Get into the playoffs and
you know, constantly seeing double teams. Didn't play well. They
(32:39):
get swept by the Celtics. Then this year, again MVP
caliber season, he and Kyrie want to be traded. They
blow up the Nets. He gets to the Suns, didn't
lose a game, in the regular season with the Suns,
but that's because he didn't play a portion of time
because he rolled his ankle in warm ups.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
And now out in the second round. How do I
view him?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I think the only way you can do him one
of the greatest scores in the history of the sport.
And the amazing thing about Lebron James is he hasn't
gone through for the most part in the middle of
his career what Kevin Durant and what Kawhi Leonard have,
which is injuries that derailed him. They win a third
(33:29):
title in Golden State if they don't Durant doesn't get hurt,
and of course they had everybody else get hurt as well. Right,
they probably win a title in Brooklyn if Kyrie doesn't
get hurt, and I don't know if they could have
beaten the Nuggets, but we're never going to know if
they don't have two of their top five on a
(33:50):
team that really goes five deep. Okay, let's get to
Mark Stein, who an immensely talented writer and insider. He
has a new podcast with Chris Haynes, and of course
you see Chris on the sidelines for TNT. Chris and
Mark together. It's called This League Uncut. Additions on the
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You'll feel like the insider that both of them are.
Uh Mark, Let let's start with last night. We'll do
a little oh bit for the Phoenix Suns. How would
you how would you write the obituary for this.
Speaker 10 (34:31):
Team concerning man you do when you lose a closeout game. Again, like,
I mean, you know, we we're always going to seize
upon that when you when you when a team falls
behind by thirty at halftime, and obviously it's a different
team construction now than they had a year ago, but
(34:51):
just there's no way to sugarcoat it. An eighty one
to fifty one halftime score is going to found a
lot arm belt. But you know, if we try to
be objective here, I mean, the reality is they could
have lost by two, five, seven, twelve. It was going
to be the same the essentially it was going to
be the same next day ovid if you want to
(35:15):
use that term, I mean, you know, around the league.
There's you know, the expectation is growing by the minute
that Ayton has played his last game for the Suns.
And Chris Paul has a very trade friendly contract, but
that requires action before free agency even starts. Only fifteen
(35:36):
point eight million of his thirty point eight million guaranteed
next season, But the Suns or another team that trades
for Chris Paul would have to move off that contract
by June twenty eighth, before free agency starts. So the Suns,
they just go right to the top of that group
that we've been talking about Milwaukee, Dallas, Portland, Toronto. You know,
(35:58):
Philly will join that group as well, just like the
minute the season is over, your faith with these really
difficult off season decisions, and it's just you know, i'm, i'm.
My list is short, it's it's a longer group than that,
and it's the it's amazing how fast it turns, no.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Question about it. Okay, So let's why did they not
trade Ayton to begin with? Right like this is it's
last year on repeat only he has a bigger contract,
which is harder to trade.
Speaker 10 (36:30):
You know, look here, there is there's going to be
a lot of that talk that he's harder to move
and there isn't a market for big men in today's NBA.
I ain't buying it. I think you can trade him.
I don't think his number is super outrageous. Look, he's
only five years removed from being the number one pick.
Whatever criticisms you want to throw at him. I just
(36:53):
find it hard to believe that suitors won't surface. And
you know, I live in Dallas and it's constantly talked
about out here. Is eight and someone that the MAVs
would theoretically go after because you know, he and Luca
Donsons don't know each other super well. They haven't spent
a ton of time together, but they're in the same
draft class and there is I mean, you've seen them
(37:13):
together when the Suns and the Mavericks play. There is
a friendship there. So you'll given all the problems that
the Mavericks have had inside a team that has no
rim protection, no rebounding, no again that that's just one hypothetical.
I want to underline hypothetical. But I am not buying
that that DeAndre Ayton, you know, five years removed from
(37:36):
being the first pick in the draft, and go ahead
and say it's a mistake if you want, you won't
be the first to do it. But you know he
was going to be a top two three pick at worst,
that he has no market and just I don't I'm
not no.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
I mean like, look, I mean there's it appears that
there's almost I can't think of a contract which is untradeable.
But just the thing was, like last year he had
a beef with his head coach, Manty Williams, who everybody likes,
some respects, and you know, then he signs as a
restricted guy. They ultimately match him, bring him back, and
(38:09):
but it just it felt like they just did it
because they did it. I don't know, like it didn't
it didn't really make sense. And now again there's an
was how was he hurt or was he injured last night?
Speaker 10 (38:21):
I mean, look, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit
here and question it. I mean enough people are questioning it,
and you know, I I don't know. I you know,
it's it's just interesting when you just oppose it. You know,
de Andre Ayton a heavily criticized player who doesn't play
Game six, and you know there's immediate skepticism about it.
But you know, I don't. I don't know that it's
(38:43):
the exact same injury, but Andrew Wiggins is now dealing
with some sort of rib injury that threatened his availability
tonight in Game six, and you know, it's to me,
it's just kind of viewed through a different prism, so
you know, Bayton and just just kind of the way
everyone reacts to the fact that that Ayton didn't play
(39:04):
in game six. It just tells you he needs a
fresh start. He needs to go somewhere else. You know,
the Sun's drafting him number one overall. It didn't work out.
I think both sides at this point would benefit from
a fresh start.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
How is Kevin Durant views league?
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Why right now?
Speaker 10 (39:23):
I still think more I still think more people than not,
you know, hold him in the high regard and are
not going to get too bogged down by efficient efficiency
talk that you know, I mean, did he play through
Kevin Durant's standards in this series? Okay? Even I mean
he he was the first guy to say he didn't.
(39:44):
But you know, annoying pests like me weren't banging on
the minute load that Devin Booker and Kevin Durant played
in the first round we weren't making such a big
deal out of it for no reason. There's a reason
why people were talking about because it was clear from
you know, that Clipper series that these guys were playing
(40:05):
way too many minutes. They're number one and two in
minutes in the playoffs, and you throw in the altitude,
how good Denver is at home and you're playing a
much better team than a short handed Clippers team, and
it's just too hard to be great for six seven games.
I mean, you know, Booker, same thing. You know, after
Game four, we were thinking the guy would never miss
(40:25):
a shot again, and you saw what happened last night.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Let's get to tonight. Andrew Wigan is gonna play, Anthony
Davis's gonna play?
Speaker 10 (40:33):
Right?
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Is there with any likely that either doesn't play?
Speaker 10 (40:38):
I know, I think they both will try. I don't
think there's any question about that. With a game of
this stake, they're both going to give it a go.
But the effectiveness question is the one we won't know
until we see it. And I mean, look, I'm sure
you watched Game five in Golden State. I mean that
was scary stuff. And when you hear that, you know,
in the bowels of the arena that Anthony Davis needed.
(41:00):
It could be transferred from one place to another via wheelchair.
You know that's I mean, that's as daunting as it gets.
So he you know, he ultimately was not placed in
the concussion protocol. I hope he's okay. I mean, I'm
I'm nervous about it to see what it kind of
looks like. And you know, Wiggins, by all accounts, this
is an injury that in the regular season he would
(41:20):
be sitting for sure. But it's Game six of the playoffs.
The Warriors are trying to save their season, so he
will try to play, but effectiveness is very much a TBD.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Okay Stein Mark Stein joining us here on the Doug
Ottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Here's what I find interesting.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Before the season and even before the playoffs, make a
real argument that though he's played for the Lakers down
for five seasons, people in LA didn't view him as
a Laker. And I thought that the Dylan Brooks comments,
combined with how he played and how they just wiped
the floor with the Grizzlies, suddenly then that you walked
in the arena and it wasn't Cobe. He's placed anymore
(42:00):
is back to being the Lakers place and Lebron felt
like he's a Laker. But if they lose this series lead,
let's see if Mark say, you guys think Mark's gonna
I will think Mark's gonna answer this question correctly? What
will most Laker fans will their first sentence out of
their mouth be if they lose a three games to
one series lead and lose the Warriors?
Speaker 10 (42:22):
Are you, basically asked me, are they gonna blame Lebron?
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Most?
Speaker 10 (42:25):
Are they gonna? I mean, because you know, again I
don't live there anymore. From afart, it feels like a
d is the one who gets the bulk of the
blame here. But yeah, I mean a three to one
blown lead would be you know, everybody goes nut when
when the three to one lead is lost, So.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
It would be it would be Kobe. Kobe never lost
up three games to one, that would doubt. That's what
we think. Kobe would never lose up three games to one.
Speaker 10 (42:50):
But Kobe is also like nobody compares to in terms
of love and adoration, Like nobody Magic Johnson struggles to
approach that level of love and adoration. So I mean,
if we're going to compare Lebron to Kobe. He's always
(43:11):
gonna lose that one.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
I can't wait to hear the next pot. You and
Chris Haynes do a great job. It's called this League uncut,
the Ultimate Insiders. Friends, two different perspectives, both have covered
the league forever, and they're awesome at it. Sonny, thanks
so much for joining us. Have enjoy Friday night hoops.
Speaker 10 (43:28):
Thanks man, appreciate talk soon.
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that compares to the love and adoration of Lakers fans
(43:52):
with Kobe Bryant?
Speaker 3 (43:55):
What do you what do you think there? Jase Tuo?
Speaker 6 (43:57):
No, No, not at all. And and you know it
sounds weird saying this, but him dying early like only
amplified that love, like it's cemented now. You know, it's
one of those things where it's like it's almost like
Jimi Hendrix or Morrison or whatever. More so they're more
(44:18):
highly regarded because they left us early. And I think
that's what one of the main factors is. But everyone,
it's so it's so easy to forget those days. I
remember just like driving home from work one day and
hearing on the local station Kobe has demanded a trade.
He wants to play for the Clippers. And that was
(44:40):
kind of, you know, in the wake of kind of
Eagle Colorado and all that. And then I'm thinking, this
is kind of a low point for Kobe Bryant in
this town, but he turned it all around.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
It's really amazing, Ramos, Is that fair? Like, yes, this
is a city, Los Angeles, a city of stars, city
of stars. There is there's no one on earth that
compares to Kobe Bryant in terms of the love and
adoration of it, Like no mention of he wanted to
be traded, no mention of any of the bad games
or any anything.
Speaker 7 (45:10):
I think your point too, was the fact that you
even admitted, like I was no Kobe fan, but after
his playing career, you became a fan of just where
he went from his post career to where he was going,
and that was enough for you to have some sort
of adoration of just the life he was going to lead.
So you take the people that just were fans of
(45:32):
Kobe as a player, and people like you who were
not totally fans but became out adoring of him after
his post career, put them all together, and it's just
it's humongous.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
I started by saying I was not a fan of
him when he was at his peak, although I will
point out that as he evolved as a person, I I.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Grew to really really enjoy him.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
And maybe it's also talking to him after that last
season where he said, like, dude, I sucked.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
I couldn't, but I had to. Like I saw the contract,
I had to do it. It was my last year.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
They were filming a documentary and then having sixty in
his last game, and the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Was crazy crazy.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
I grew to really appreciate, respect and like him. But
I wasn't a Kobe guy for the longest time, because
you know, if you want to call it efficiency, whatever
however you want to call it, like, I didn't think
he was the best at making everybody else better. He
demanded everybody else be better. I didn't feel like he
made others better, and that was to me kind of
(46:37):
the difference in him and some of the other all
time great players. That said, I became more and more
of a fan, and then when you got to know
him personally, became more of a fan.
Speaker 7 (46:47):
So then the point we're trying to make is that
a Lebron James win tonight sets him on a pathway
of becoming an actual Laker. A last night sent him
down the other way.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Is that what word?
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah, he's had to lose the next two But yes, okay, yes, yes,
And it's like crazy because if you go and say, like,
all right, man, Kobe is awesome, right, give me the
Kobe Bryant finals moment, like well, you know, against the
Indiana Pacers, maybe, right, Like give me the finals moment.
You can go through Jordan moments, you can go through
(47:22):
Lebron moments, you can go through name the superstar player
and they all have their you know, their moments. Larry Bird, Magic, Johnson,
Baby skyhooking the lane at Boston Garden. Larry Bird wasn't
the finals, but stealing the ball back from you know,
stealing the ball when when Isaiah Thomas inbounded. Of course,
he had so many big shots he hit for the Celtics,
Isaiah Thomas, he had I think thirty seven or thirty
(47:44):
nine right, playing on a bad ankle. All those things
you can't name the but it doesn't matter, like Kobe
is deity status, and for Lebron, you don't want to
be the captain of the ship that sank up three
games to one,
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Speaker 1 (00:52):
I hate this, but this is a case where it's needed.
You're like, what do you hate? Well, there's things that
I hate in life, right. I don't like meetings. I
don't I don't like like formal meetings. You know where
we need an agenda.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I don't like that. I don't like dress shoes. I've
never liked dress shoes.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
One of the great things about our generation is we've
kind of done away with dress shoes right now.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
People was very comfortable where sneakers.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
With whatever, jeans with whatever. But even with sneakers with slacks,
you gotta find the right sneakers. You can't wear high
tops whatever. But I don't like dress shoes. Never been
a dress shoe guy. Throw pillows, never send the need
for it. I've changed and wavered a little bit on
the top sheet. I didn't grow up with the top sheet,
(01:38):
and you know, there was a long time there when
I didn't like the top sheet. But now you know,
obviously with my sleep number bed, I don't run hot
all the time, but when I run hot, I kind
of need a top sheet instead of having the covers,
so I vacillate. But I don't really need a top sheet.
I don't like fish when it's cooked inside, even though
(02:00):
I like eating.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Fish, usually off the grill.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
There's just things in life that I don't like, and
I don't like about my job. I don't like the
did the Sixers lose or did the Celtics win? But
last night the answer is yes. But it's a great topic,
like as on one hand, the Sixers had complete control
of the game. Jason Tatum could make a shot and
(02:24):
yet the Sixers could not step on the throat of
the Celtics. And on the other hand, you had Jason
Tatum who's just hung around, hung around, and they believed
him enough to get more shots, more opportunities, and he
made them down the stretch. We'll break down who's at
fault or who won or who lost in a second.
Here's Joel Embiid first on how he was utilized or
(02:46):
underutilized in late minutes.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
We stopped moving the ball and I don't think I
touched the ball the last four minutes of the game.
I gotta be, you know, more demanding, but kind of
went away from what was walked came at the beginning
on about four quarter. As a big, it's hard to
you know, go get the ball and you know just create,
you know, for yourself. But I just gotta go get it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
He's right, you got at some level you got to
demand the basketball, demand the basketball. Some of them not
getting was by design by the Celtics, but a lot
of it is you got to demand the ball. Here's
Jason Tatum, who was absolutely dreadful until the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
I'm one of the humbly one of the best basketball
players in the world.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
You know, go through struggles, go through slumps.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I love that I'm one of the best basketball players
in the world. He also then went and credited his
teammates with continue to encourage him and to keep them
close until ultimately made shots.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Here's Tatum on his night.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
You know, I gotta give a lot of credit to
my teammates, Right, they were extremely vocal throughout the game, right,
encouraging I mean, I mean, I'm being transparented, frustrated. Right,
you want to win it so bad, you want to
play so well, and you know, shots not falling, things
just now necessarily going your way, and you want it.
You want it so bad. Trying to stay present, trying
(04:05):
to stay in a moment, try and do other things.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I love that he's he was trying to not let
it bother him, that he wasn't making shots. I love
that he encouraged, got the encouragement of his teammates. I mean,
all of that is good stuff, which leads us to
the question and when people ask did a team winner
didn't team lose it? Like I think the answer is yes.
(04:34):
It's interesting because it's very easy and rightfully so, to
be critical of the Sixers and of Doc Rivers, who
once again had a series leave and is now stuck
in a game seven. We can also be honest and
say didn't they just you know, go in and thoroughly
dismantle the Celtics who slept walk through Game five? Like
we're allowed to be critical of the Sixers now, but
(04:56):
aren't we shouldn't we also be critical of the Celtics,
and you know, we're acting like the Celtics mental state
was out of it for Game five and they only
got alerted to it at the end of Game six.
I don't know, but I do think the Celtics went
out and won the game, and embiid not demanding the.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Ball and not getting the ball was why. I know.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
The football expression is more games are lost than one,
but I think in this particular case the game was.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
One and then lost and then lost.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
But all of that pales in comparison to tonight. Tonight's
the game right Tonight's again. You don't even have to
be a Warriors or a Lakers fans.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
There's so many elements at play today.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
First, it's at Crypto, which is formerly Staples, which is
the second most prominent arena in the sport. Masisve Square
Garden is the biggest one, but it is the most
the world's most arena, but in the sport, I would
say that's number one and Staples is number two. And
you're very it's very fair to go like, hey, when
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was the last big game, really big game before tonight?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Right, tonight's in New York. Oh, no tonights in Miami.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
When's the last really big game in New York that
actually mattered? Whereas with Crypto, we have all of the
Lakers championships of the Kobe Bryant era and the three
with Shaq and the two with Pal those were all
in Crypto, which was then Staples. Whereas the Knicks, they
have been to the finals since OJ, but there's been
(06:34):
plenty of other, albeit regular season games and college games
where it New York's different. It's special, but you have
because of the star quality of the fans, the energy
will be there.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
It's Lebron and Steph.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Lebron's team famously came from three games to one down
to beat the Warriors, but the Warriors also came from
three games to one down to beat the thunder and
now Steph's got a chance to do it. Back to Lebron, like,
there's a lot here. You got injuries, you have the
potential end of the Warriors era. You also have whatever
(07:12):
surprising championship window there is for the Lakers. If even
if it goes to seven and they win, you gotta
wonder about their conditioning getting ready for the Western Conference
finals for that to play on the road in Denver,
in altitude. But you can't get there without winning one
more game. Tonight is the game Steph and Lebron. Steph
(07:36):
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and foremost? Are you watching tonight's game? Are you setting
aside time to watch the night's game or you're doing something.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
With your ladies?
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Oh no, I'm watching tonight. There's so many great angles
to this game, so much interest. I want to I
actually I think Waki told you yesterday, and I agree
with this. If there's a game for Lebron to have
like one of his thirty point triple doubles, I think,
and they win tonight, I think that goes a long
way towards what we've been talking about since the beginning
(08:20):
of these playoffs, Lebron's acceptance by the Lakers fans as
a Laker. I think, like one of those signature games,
in a close out game like this, I think we
go a long way. You agree completely, there's.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I think there's two different parts to it.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I think what he's done, how he's played, how they
came to his defense after uh he was called old
in the previous series.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
He feels like he's become a Laker.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
But losing a three games to one lead, what does
if they lose this series? What does every Laker fan says?
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Every Laker fan, Well, I I blame Anthony Davis, But.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Will every Laker fan say if Lebron's team lose the
three games one.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
League, Kobe wouldn't have lost.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Correct, Bingo, you get the big door prize, You know
Kobe wouldn't have lost three games one.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Seriously, Buyer, tell me I'm wrong. There's just no right.
I mean, my way.
Speaker 8 (09:25):
Off on, dog, I'll tell you what I want to
do is you're right. You're right, Doug. Don't you tell
me what I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
No, you're right, right, every stinking Laker fan, if they
lose this series, like.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Come on, man, Kobe would have lost three one.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
He would have taken he would have taken the ball,
and he would have personally made sure that they beat
the Golden State Warriors. Like again, Kobe has taken on
such mythical I had this discussion last night. Okay, so again,
I fully disclose this. I he was not a Kobe
Bryant fan.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
It was not.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I was always in awe of his talent. I like
the fact that he played both ends. But I was
not a Kobe Bryant fan. I just I thought he
was selfish and took bad shots like he just I
thought he was a lesser version of Michael Jordan. But
he tried so hard for so long to be Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
But man, he took.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And so last night I was watching and I had
this kind of my good friend of mine, Mike, Mike
calls me, He's like, man, he's a Celtics things.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I'm the I'm I feel like they're gonna give me
a heart attack.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I was like, God, I was like, does Tatum take
an easy shot? It feels like every shot he takes
is like, how can I make this a harder level
of difficulty? Just so it's a harder level of difficulty.
And the guy it most reminds me of is Kobe Bryant.
Where I remember going to a Laker game once and
watching and going like he didn't take one easy shot
(10:53):
the whole time. It was like a regular season game
and every game, and part of it is how he
was defended, but part of it was like that was
just Kobe, like, man, you force some shots, and that's
that's how Tatum kind of plays, like, yeah, those are
hard shots. You can just take easy mid range pull
ups or just it's like everyone he has to make
(11:13):
a dribble and sidestep into a three that's contested and
throw out his leg. But that that's not how Laker
fan sees it, because Kobe was tragically killed in his
prime in a helicopter accident and Kobe won them five titles.
Is that Kobe walks on water and there's no way
(11:34):
Kobe Bryant's team would lose eight three games to one lead.
That's so Jay Stude, that's what he's up against.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
That's great up again.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Yeah, that's what he's up against.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
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Speaker 3 (11:58):
What but that dot leeb show?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Fox Sports Radio. It's Friday. I've seen nationally weather really good.
He had some storms, thunderstorms you know that happens in
May in the Midwest and southeast Southwest last night. But
otherwise it looks like a good weather weekend. Ramos is
I thought Ramos coming in the tank top was a
(12:21):
little bit much today, but I get Ramos that gun
show looking good, John looking good.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Workout.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
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Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yes it is.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Protein is your other middle name, John, workout, Protein, Ramos, workout, Protein, Ramos.
Jay Stow's even working on his tan Jayce dou you're
going for a hike this weekend. He's always posting hike videos.
You haven't jumped off any sort of thing, and he
had no daredevil stuff in the last year.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
What's going on there?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (12:52):
I got to do that. I have yet to do
it since I started working here, But yes, skydiving is
is on the docket, and then maybe a bungee jump.
But the hiking is just like, that's just something that's
been introduced to my life for the last three or
four years. My girlfriend loves it and she's got me
(13:12):
into living it.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
I never thought just walking outside for a few hours
was going to be fun or gratifying or change my.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Life, but it has change your life.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Yeah. There's something about being in the nature and smelling
nature and being among the I don't know, animals. Yeah,
I don't know what it is, but it it. It
has a market like a marketably what's the word I'm
looking for it marketbly Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Markedly, markedly.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
It has changed my life markedly. Yeah, from a mental
health standpoint and physical stampoint.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
This is the happy you.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Oh yeah, this is You've got me at my happiest guys.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Wow, that's that one.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
That one's a because on the pod we do You're annoying,
which is BA Who's annoying Jason Stewart And it's a
long list. We have to parry down that list every day.
This is the happy Jason to know, but I agree.
Here's here's when I hike in California. I have, I've
gone for ikes, and I I do enjoy it. I
think a lot of it's the company, but also the
fact you're off your phone. But I'll tell you the
(14:17):
thing I like the best is uh spring in California.
This smells. It smells like old California smells like when
we were kids a little bit. And what is the
what are the different smells and flowers that it's.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
It's very unique. It's really really unique. Like you do
smell the what's the purple flower? Is that jasmine?
Speaker 9 (14:40):
What is it?
Speaker 6 (14:41):
Yeah, that's when you lose me. I'm not a botany guy.
That's a body.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's just but you you would agree, Like there's a
there's a smell, and it especially when you go into
like the canyons in California and the mountains and the
hill regions, it has a different like it has a
nature smell and then nature smell in California is different
than nature smell on the East Coast, different than the
nat your smell and in other in the north Northwest
is whatever, but it is there is a smell that
kind of takes your mind to a different place.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
I have a question.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I have an hour different than the smell in downtown
LA and in the valley at times which the smells
are getting closer to New York smells.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Yes, I have allergies. Is that constitute that I like
to walk as well? I don't know about up into
the the the uh wilderness wilderness type, But does allergies
prevent that.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
From me being? Yeah, okay, it's going to be a challenge.
I think you should still do it.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Take a little cleraton or was it zykac?
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Is that the other one is which.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
When you first feel like you're getting sick, it's about okay,
less than the blow. But I don't think you need
zycam uh any sort of allergy man. The benadrill makes
you a little sleepy, but that's not bad. That sleepy, sleepy,
sleepy John. Or you can do the allergy shots. One
of my daughters says, the allergy shots. I think actually,
by the way your connection with nature on it, that's
I mean, Dan loves all but I think also, I
(16:02):
mean it's that's his kind of therapy, right, That's where
you get out there and you kind of smell nature
and you hit the ball and.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
There's a big part of Yes, the surroundings amazing.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Because you love working on your yard.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So it's kind of much the same thing, right you
just you like the not just being off your phone,
but being with plants and smelling the grass and smelling
the flight.
Speaker 8 (16:23):
Yeah, yard work is a little different for me. Like
I would love to mow the lawn. We don't have
a big enough lawn for me to want it, so
we just had somebody else to do it. But like
I had to replant the a plant yesterday and you
got to dig out the rock bed, had to pull
out the weeds, and then I had to dig it up.
And by the end of it, I'm like, all right,
this is I'm done. I'm just I'm I don't want
(16:45):
to do this anymore. And so it's a different feeling
where in golf you're really enjoying the surroundings. But yeah,
there are there are there there are there are ties
that bind it. But my wife tried to use though,
well you love to garden, It's like, no, I don't
want our yard to look like crap. That's why I'm
doing it.
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a buddy reach out saying we're not on in Albany.
You can listen to us on the app in Albany
if they're running local stuff now. But wherever you are,
you know, it really works out well here at seven
(17:42):
at night, like you can go and get out in nature.
You can do a hike, work on your yard and
then PLoP yourself down and kind of go old school.
I guess remember TV dinners Man when you had the
tinfoil used to roll back and then I don't know
if you had this in your home, like we had
those trays that were like would stand up and then
(18:03):
you have the you put the TV dinner on top
of the tray, and you, just like my dad, would
completely ignore anybody else except if they were talking during
a big portion of the game, in which they would
get the i'm watching the game here. That's what tonight's
game is. That's what tonight's game is like. You don't
really have to be like a hardcore basketball fan to
(18:23):
be like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm an And I actually
thought so, I thought of this, and I want to
kind of wind these two together. Did you guys see
the schedule release video that the NFL had This they
went around, was that was that Times Square that they
asked people felt like Timeshville? Okay, now it was downtown Nashville,
(18:45):
and the Titans asked people.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Well, they showed them the team mascot, right.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
They showed the logo the logo. Right. They showed the
logo of each of the.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Teams that the Titans were playing. And this was a
couple of the reactions.
Speaker 9 (19:07):
St.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Louis Rams Queen, the Chargers, by the way, I charge
were white, naw the Queen.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
The Boston Bobcats, No, I had the.
Speaker 10 (19:26):
White, but.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
The Cowboys were the Colts Baltimore, Baltimore Oriole.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Baltimore's were the Ravens right, Yeah, so it was. But
but what it spoke to me was like, and is
we think us guys think everybody knows about sports. I mean,
my my own daughter came into the I was watching
(19:58):
Lakers Warriors two nights ago and we were getting ready
she won, We were gonna binge watch It's Queen Charlotte
show she likes watching. And I was like, as soon
as the game is over, will will watch it? And
She's like, Okay, Who's who's who?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
And I was like, what the Lakers? Which one are
they like with the Laker uniforms on? Like how are you?
Speaker 9 (20:19):
My child?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
But she's now she.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Can quote chapter and verse any horse anywhere in America
and what they do and who their rider is and
how high they jump in all this stuff. And a
buddy of mine says this, it's really good. Is you
do realize that at least one hundred and fifty to
two hundred million people do not.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Watch the Super Bowl?
Speaker 9 (20:37):
Like what?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, so I'm fully understanding that. Use that NFL schedule
video as your guide. Tonight there will be three hundred
and twenty five million people who won't watch Lakers Warriors,
but they're missing out cause it's the game is fun. Like,
(21:00):
say what you want about how the Warriors play, like
it seems like it's a good time. The ball's moving,
they're shooting threes, they're spraying you all out, you know.
Then they're driving in and throwing out the loops, are
kicking it out. They have what looks like a lamup
of kicking.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Out for a three. Like it's fun.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
And you have his two historically great players. It's the
old and I hate this expression, but I'll use it.
You can't tell the story of the NBA without the
story of Steph Kerry, Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
But it's true.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You have the opposite style of the Lakers that they
don't shoot the three very well. They've had like some
random guy every game they've won, one of the random
also guys steps up make shots. You got Lebron who
he just kind of like. There are moments in which
he looks like Lebron and there are moments like, man,
he looks tired. He looks really tired, and it's in Staples.
(21:49):
Here's one also also happened the other night. My daughter's
like they kept showing Jack. She's like, who is that
Jack Nicholson? Who's Jack Nilson? It's like I did have
her watch As Good as It Gets one time, was
like you remember the movie as Good as It Gets?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
He's like sort of with the dog, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
So maybe I'm not I'm doing a poor job of
child rearing, but I think it's this is one in
which you grab the other three hundred and twenty five
million people and go like this is kind of a
big thing, because if they vanquished the Warriors, it does
feel like the Warriors are gonna there's gonna be some
wholesale changes and if they don't, now all of a sudden,
(22:34):
there is so much pressure on the Lakers. You don't
want to be another team that loses three games to win.
And the truth is, like every game is so different
from the last. The Warriors had a ton of opportunities
to win two of the games that they've lost that
it's not that far fetched a thought to think the
(22:56):
Warriors can come in and get a win or win
two more games. But it was three to one. It
is Lebron James, it is the Lakers. And there are
times in which they've looked dominant, and the Warriors have
looked old in some of their own rights, and like
they're just chucking out three point shots to try and
keep it close. I don't know tonight to night where
(23:19):
I get that people want to hike and people want
to cook out, and people want to do all these
other things on a Friday night.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
But man, you got to have a TV on, got
to have a TV on a watch one, yes, Romos, do.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
You think it gets harder as a coach, being that
you know you've coached and stuff for just as a
team to play the same team over and over and
over again? You would think like you would find a
way to get better against them, or to find you
things that work better. But do you do you think
it's just hard to just beat a team over and
over again and see them over and over again all
(23:50):
the time, like like you know, this is the last
time the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
I looked at this.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
The last time the Lakers lost three games in a
row was February of twenty twenty three, So that was
almost what March templemat That's almost three and a half
months ago that they lost three consecutive games in a row.
And yet you know, they lose tonight and they could
be on the verge of losing three consecutive games. So
do you think it's just seeing the same team over again?
Is that Is that hard for a coach to kind
of focus on the same team again and again and again.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I think it?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I Well, the NBA is weird, right, The NBA is weird.
And by the way, I got a great reminder here
on from TJ. TJ hits me up on Instagram at
Gottlieb Show. You do know that Kobe blew a three
games one lead in two thousand and six. Again, try
and convince a Kobe Bryant Laker fan. Oh no, no, see,
(24:39):
I see what happened was it doesn't matter what happened.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
That's a great point.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Can I can I answer John's question because we were
giving proof of it the other night when when they
did the Inside tracks with Darvin Ham.
Speaker 9 (24:55):
Did you guys see that? You guys don't give up
right now? You gotta rebound. Don't don't give in.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Rebound more. You gotta rebound. I love that.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
That's do you Here's this is an honest question. Do
you lose respect for a guy when you go like, hey,
what do you think about the game, Like what game?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Like?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
There's a couple of exceptions, right.
Speaker 8 (25:39):
I don't lose respect. I just it's unfortunate that he
and I are not going to be able to connect.
Speaker 10 (25:46):
That happened to me.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
Had a party years back. A guy was asking me
about fantasy football, and it just I didn't feel sorry
for him because I'm the doorc who plays it, but
he was just so far from reality of what fantasy
football is.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Like.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
I think he even asked me, like, what do you
do in March, you know, And I'm like, well, we
don't do anything, you know, Like you just just you're
not able to You're just not able to connect in
that sort of world.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
My first thanksgiving up at ESPN. This is real. I
don't know if I told you guys this story. I
moved in this neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I mean I probably should have moved into West Hartford
where it was much more populous, But I got a
house in a town called Burlington's like fifteen twenty minutes
from work. I love this little It was like a
private street kinda, and we had a couple of acres.
Mostly it was like a long driveway and then your
backyard was like wooded, but I had neighbors on both sides,
(26:46):
and one of my neighbors in their house was like
kind of below us, like if you walked off of
our driveway, there's like steps down, and they had their
own really nice and they had two little girls, and
I forget what the guy did for a living. But
we didn't have a frigerator. We moved in, Like I
remember moving into like, ah, the fridge will be easy.
It was like no, it's a counter depth frigerator. You
gotta order it special. So we so we actually borrowed
(27:09):
from our neighbors, like it was like a college fridge,
and we moved in I don't know, I want to
say like early mid November. So Thanksgiving time comes round
and they're like, don't cook. You don't have a fridge
for its store stuff, Like just come down and have
some of our food. We got family coming over, and
you know, we were getting to like two o'clock in
(27:30):
the afternoon, and finally I was just like are we
gonna Are you guys gonna watch the game? And I
remember them saying, like what game. It's like it's Thanksgiving football?
What football games are? It's like Lions and Cowboys are on.
At some point in time, you know, like, this is
not that hard, and I remember thinking to myself, at
no point is there ever going to be a sports
conversation with this guy that'll ever be legitimate.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
So that's the yet, right, which is my nice way
of saying, We're not ever gonna be friends. We're not
ever gonna be friends. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 9 (28:01):
Dan?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Can you be friends with somebody who doesn't watch Dan
Byer's got breaking news?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Let's it's even more than maybe what I.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Got breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
A joint statement has just been released that Josh Harris
and the Washington Commanders have entered into a purchase and
sale agreements. That agreement taking place today, Commission should Say
Commanders co owners Tanya and Dan Snyder releasing a statement
saying they're very pleased to have reached an agreement for
the sale of the Commander's franchise, with Josh Harris, adding
(28:35):
we look forward to the prompt completion of this transaction
and to rooting for Josh and the team in the
coming years. There was a report earlier today saying that
Snyder was trying to limit the release of the investigation
into his team by Mary Joe White and trying to
use that as leverage. The Commanders have denied that, and
now the Commanders have been an agreement has been made
(28:57):
for Dan Snyder and his wife Tanya to say, tell
the team to Josh Harris.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
All right, good, I mean, let's Josh Harris also owns
part of the Sixers, right, Let's hope they can close
this thing out unlike the Sixers couldn't.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Close this thing out last night?
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Is that the national nightmare of the Commanders is over?
I just I continue to tell you this like look,
I have no reasonably that Dan Snyder is a good guy.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Feels like a bad guy.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
But it is interesting that for how many years have
been calls to sell the New York Knicks, and because
they've been so much better this year, no one said
a word about Jim Dolan selling.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Uh, Snyder selling the team means that they'll have a
new stadium soon, and the question becomes, do they move
it back to DC at old RFK and redo that thing,
or do they push it further into the suburbs.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Gonna be interesting.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
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studios of Fox Sports Radio. Here's Doug Gottley.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
When miss sometime Sharona.
Speaker 10 (30:25):
William the.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Show Fox Sports Radio. Mark Stein will join us in
a moment steinline, this guy knows what about what's going
on in the NBA?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Wow, So, I guess here's the question. Kevin Durant really
didn't shoot the basketball well.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
But I mean that's a team with no bench, and uh,
you know, they didn't have Chris Paul they're starting guard.
I don't know if you still there.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
I guess still their point guard though he plays off
the ball bunch, and didn't have DeAndre Ayton.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
So you don't have two of your top five on
a team that really goes like six deep. And what
did what did you expect to have happened? You know,
what do you expect to have happened?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
So it wasn't really a surprise of last night. Denver
Nuggets are really good. Nikola Jokicic is really good, and
you know you're starting the game with Jock Landel guarding
him right like, I'm not sure what anyone expected to
have happened. But the question becomes, like we make so
(31:41):
much of people's legacies based upon how their team does
in the playoffs. It's really interesting. Now you go back
two years ago, he's with the Brooklyn Nets, He's playing
incredibly well. Kyrie Irving gets hurt, he still nearly carries
the Nets past the eventual champion Milwaukee Bucks. Then and
in that summer, he's the best player by a mile
(32:04):
on the Olympic team by a mile.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Go back, and if you remember, like.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Damian Lillard kind of struggled, other guys kind of struggled,
and yet Kevin Durant was the guy.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
He was the guy.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Second straight Olympic team, he was the guy carries them.
They win a gold medal, comes back to Brooklyn and
was having a great year, MVP caliber year, and he
hurts his knee, comes back and because they're banged up,
has to play a ton. Get into the playoffs and
you know, constantly seeing double teams. Didn't play well. They
(32:39):
get swept by the Celtics. Then this year, again MVP
caliber season, he and Kyrie want to be traded. They
blow up the Nets. He gets to the Suns, didn't
lose a game, in the regular season with the Suns,
but that's because he didn't play a portion of time
because he rolled his ankle in warm ups.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
And now out in the second round. How do I
view him?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I think the only way you can do him one
of the greatest scores in the history of the sport.
And the amazing thing about Lebron James is he hasn't
gone through for the most part in the middle of
his career what Kevin Durant and what Kawhi Leonard have,
which is injuries that derailed him. They win a third
(33:29):
title in Golden State if they don't Durant doesn't get hurt,
and of course they had everybody else get hurt as well. Right,
they probably win a title in Brooklyn if Kyrie doesn't
get hurt, and I don't know if they could have
beaten the Nuggets, but we're never going to know if
they don't have two of their top five on a
(33:50):
team that really goes five deep. Okay, let's get to
Mark Stein, who an immensely talented writer and insider. He
has a new podcast with Chris Haynes, and of course
you see Chris on the sidelines for TNT. Chris and
Mark together. It's called This League Uncut. Additions on the
biggest NBA topics and rumblings beyond what Stein and Haynes
report on social media, with way more candor and opinions. Again,
(34:14):
This League Uncut. Just put in your cue, listen to it.
You'll feel like the insider that both of them are.
Uh Mark, Let let's start with last night. We'll do
a little oh bit for the Phoenix Suns. How would
you how would you write the obituary for this.
Speaker 10 (34:31):
Team concerning man you do when you lose a closeout game. Again, like,
I mean, you know, we we're always going to seize
upon that when you when you when a team falls
behind by thirty at halftime, and obviously it's a different
team construction now than they had a year ago, but
(34:51):
just there's no way to sugarcoat it. An eighty one
to fifty one halftime score is going to found a
lot arm belt. But you know, if we try to
be objective here, I mean, the reality is they could
have lost by two, five, seven, twelve. It was going
to be the same the essentially it was going to
be the same next day ovid if you want to
(35:15):
use that term, I mean, you know, around the league.
There's you know, the expectation is growing by the minute
that Ayton has played his last game for the Suns.
And Chris Paul has a very trade friendly contract, but
that requires action before free agency even starts. Only fifteen
(35:36):
point eight million of his thirty point eight million guaranteed
next season, But the Suns or another team that trades
for Chris Paul would have to move off that contract
by June twenty eighth, before free agency starts. So the Suns,
they just go right to the top of that group
that we've been talking about Milwaukee, Dallas, Portland, Toronto. You know,
(35:58):
Philly will join that group as well, just like the
minute the season is over, your faith with these really
difficult off season decisions, and it's just you know, i'm, i'm.
My list is short, it's it's a longer group than that,
and it's the it's amazing how fast it turns, no.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Question about it. Okay, So let's why did they not
trade Ayton to begin with? Right like this is it's
last year on repeat only he has a bigger contract,
which is harder to trade.
Speaker 10 (36:30):
You know, look here, there is there's going to be
a lot of that talk that he's harder to move
and there isn't a market for big men in today's NBA.
I ain't buying it. I think you can trade him.
I don't think his number is super outrageous. Look, he's
only five years removed from being the number one pick.
Whatever criticisms you want to throw at him. I just
(36:53):
find it hard to believe that suitors won't surface. And
you know, I live in Dallas and it's constantly talked
about out here. Is eight and someone that the MAVs
would theoretically go after because you know, he and Luca
Donsons don't know each other super well. They haven't spent
a ton of time together, but they're in the same
draft class and there is I mean, you've seen them
(37:13):
together when the Suns and the Mavericks play. There is
a friendship there. So you'll given all the problems that
the Mavericks have had inside a team that has no
rim protection, no rebounding, no again that that's just one hypothetical.
I want to underline hypothetical. But I am not buying
that that DeAndre Ayton, you know, five years removed from
(37:36):
being the first pick in the draft, and go ahead
and say it's a mistake if you want, you won't
be the first to do it. But you know he
was going to be a top two three pick at worst,
that he has no market and just I don't I'm
not no.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
I mean like, look, I mean there's it appears that
there's almost I can't think of a contract which is untradeable.
But just the thing was, like last year he had
a beef with his head coach, Manty Williams, who everybody likes,
some respects, and you know, then he signs as a
restricted guy. They ultimately match him, bring him back, and
(38:09):
but it just it felt like they just did it
because they did it. I don't know, like it didn't
it didn't really make sense. And now again there's an
was how was he hurt or was he injured last night?
Speaker 10 (38:21):
I mean, look, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit
here and question it. I mean enough people are questioning it,
and you know, I I don't know. I you know,
it's it's just interesting when you just oppose it. You know,
de Andre Ayton a heavily criticized player who doesn't play
Game six, and you know there's immediate skepticism about it.
But you know, I don't. I don't know that it's
(38:43):
the exact same injury, but Andrew Wiggins is now dealing
with some sort of rib injury that threatened his availability
tonight in Game six, and you know, it's to me,
it's just kind of viewed through a different prism, so
you know, Bayton and just just kind of the way
everyone reacts to the fact that that Ayton didn't play
(39:04):
in game six. It just tells you he needs a
fresh start. He needs to go somewhere else. You know,
the Sun's drafting him number one overall. It didn't work out.
I think both sides at this point would benefit from
a fresh start.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
How is Kevin Durant views league?
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Why right now?
Speaker 10 (39:23):
I still think more I still think more people than not,
you know, hold him in the high regard and are
not going to get too bogged down by efficient efficiency
talk that you know, I mean, did he play through
Kevin Durant's standards in this series? Okay? Even I mean
he he was the first guy to say he didn't.
(39:44):
But you know, annoying pests like me weren't banging on
the minute load that Devin Booker and Kevin Durant played
in the first round we weren't making such a big
deal out of it for no reason. There's a reason
why people were talking about because it was clear from
you know, that Clipper series that these guys were playing
(40:05):
way too many minutes. They're number one and two in
minutes in the playoffs, and you throw in the altitude,
how good Denver is at home and you're playing a
much better team than a short handed Clippers team, and
it's just too hard to be great for six seven games.
I mean, you know, Booker, same thing. You know, after
Game four, we were thinking the guy would never miss
(40:25):
a shot again, and you saw what happened last night.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Let's get to tonight. Andrew Wigan is gonna play, Anthony
Davis's gonna play?
Speaker 10 (40:33):
Right?
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Is there with any likely that either doesn't play?
Speaker 10 (40:38):
I know, I think they both will try. I don't
think there's any question about that. With a game of
this stake, they're both going to give it a go.
But the effectiveness question is the one we won't know
until we see it. And I mean, look, I'm sure
you watched Game five in Golden State. I mean that
was scary stuff. And when you hear that, you know,
in the bowels of the arena that Anthony Davis needed.
(41:00):
It could be transferred from one place to another via wheelchair.
You know that's I mean, that's as daunting as it gets.
So he you know, he ultimately was not placed in
the concussion protocol. I hope he's okay. I mean, I'm
I'm nervous about it to see what it kind of
looks like. And you know, Wiggins, by all accounts, this
is an injury that in the regular season he would
(41:20):
be sitting for sure. But it's Game six of the playoffs.
The Warriors are trying to save their season, so he
will try to play, but effectiveness is very much a TBD.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Okay Stein Mark Stein joining us here on the Doug
Ottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Here's what I find interesting.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Before the season and even before the playoffs, make a
real argument that though he's played for the Lakers down
for five seasons, people in LA didn't view him as
a Laker. And I thought that the Dylan Brooks comments,
combined with how he played and how they just wiped
the floor with the Grizzlies, suddenly then that you walked
in the arena and it wasn't Cobe. He's placed anymore
(42:00):
is back to being the Lakers place and Lebron felt
like he's a Laker. But if they lose this series lead,
let's see if Mark say, you guys think Mark's gonna
I will think Mark's gonna answer this question correctly? What
will most Laker fans will their first sentence out of
their mouth be if they lose a three games to
one series lead and lose the Warriors?
Speaker 10 (42:22):
Are you, basically asked me, are they gonna blame Lebron?
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Most?
Speaker 10 (42:25):
Are they gonna? I mean, because you know, again I
don't live there anymore. From afart, it feels like a
d is the one who gets the bulk of the
blame here. But yeah, I mean a three to one
blown lead would be you know, everybody goes nut when
when the three to one lead is lost, So.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
It would be it would be Kobe. Kobe never lost
up three games to one, that would doubt. That's what
we think. Kobe would never lose up three games to one.
Speaker 10 (42:50):
But Kobe is also like nobody compares to in terms
of love and adoration, Like nobody Magic Johnson struggles to
approach that level of love and adoration. So I mean,
if we're going to compare Lebron to Kobe. He's always
(43:11):
gonna lose that one.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
I can't wait to hear the next pot. You and
Chris Haynes do a great job. It's called this League uncut,
the Ultimate Insiders. Friends, two different perspectives, both have covered
the league forever, and they're awesome at it. Sonny, thanks
so much for joining us. Have enjoy Friday night hoops.
Speaker 10 (43:28):
Thanks man, appreciate talk soon.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
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that compares to the love and adoration of Lakers fans
(43:52):
with Kobe Bryant?
Speaker 3 (43:55):
What do you what do you think there? Jase Tuo?
Speaker 6 (43:57):
No, No, not at all. And and you know it
sounds weird saying this, but him dying early like only
amplified that love, like it's cemented now. You know, it's
one of those things where it's like it's almost like
Jimi Hendrix or Morrison or whatever. More so they're more
(44:18):
highly regarded because they left us early. And I think
that's what one of the main factors is. But everyone,
it's so it's so easy to forget those days. I
remember just like driving home from work one day and
hearing on the local station Kobe has demanded a trade.
He wants to play for the Clippers. And that was
(44:40):
kind of, you know, in the wake of kind of
Eagle Colorado and all that. And then I'm thinking, this
is kind of a low point for Kobe Bryant in
this town, but he turned it all around.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
It's really amazing, Ramos, Is that fair? Like, yes, this
is a city, Los Angeles, a city of stars, city
of stars. There is there's no one on earth that
compares to Kobe Bryant in terms of the love and
adoration of it, Like no mention of he wanted to
be traded, no mention of any of the bad games
or any anything.
Speaker 7 (45:10):
I think your point too, was the fact that you
even admitted, like I was no Kobe fan, but after
his playing career, you became a fan of just where
he went from his post career to where he was going,
and that was enough for you to have some sort
of adoration of just the life he was going to lead.
So you take the people that just were fans of
(45:32):
Kobe as a player, and people like you who were
not totally fans but became out adoring of him after
his post career, put them all together, and it's just
it's humongous.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
I started by saying I was not a fan of
him when he was at his peak, although I will
point out that as he evolved as a person, I I.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Grew to really really enjoy him.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
And maybe it's also talking to him after that last
season where he said, like, dude, I sucked.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
I couldn't, but I had to. Like I saw the contract,
I had to do it. It was my last year.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
They were filming a documentary and then having sixty in
his last game, and the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Was crazy crazy.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
I grew to really appreciate, respect and like him. But
I wasn't a Kobe guy for the longest time, because
you know, if you want to call it efficiency, whatever
however you want to call it, like, I didn't think
he was the best at making everybody else better. He
demanded everybody else be better. I didn't feel like he
made others better, and that was to me kind of
(46:37):
the difference in him and some of the other all
time great players. That said, I became more and more
of a fan, and then when you got to know
him personally, became more of a fan.
Speaker 7 (46:47):
So then the point we're trying to make is that
a Lebron James win tonight sets him on a pathway
of becoming an actual Laker. A last night sent him
down the other way.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Is that what word?
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah, he's had to lose the next two But yes, okay, yes, yes,
And it's like crazy because if you go and say, like,
all right, man, Kobe is awesome, right, give me the
Kobe Bryant finals moment, like well, you know, against the
Indiana Pacers, maybe, right, Like give me the finals moment.
You can go through Jordan moments, you can go through
(47:22):
Lebron moments, you can go through name the superstar player
and they all have their you know, their moments. Larry Bird, Magic, Johnson,
Baby skyhooking the lane at Boston Garden. Larry Bird wasn't
the finals, but stealing the ball back from you know,
stealing the ball when when Isaiah Thomas inbounded. Of course,
he had so many big shots he hit for the Celtics,
Isaiah Thomas, he had I think thirty seven or thirty
(47:44):
nine right, playing on a bad ankle. All those things
you can't name the but it doesn't matter, like Kobe
is deity status, and for Lebron, you don't want to
be the captain of the ship that sank up three
games to one,
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