August 24, 2023 • 45 mins
On the Thursday edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show, Doug starts the show off talking about Shohei Ohtani and his UCL injury preventing him from pitching the rest of the season. Jon Paul Morosi, MLB insider joined the show to talk about the injury and other big news around the league.
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Firesale in Phoenix as the Cardinals have started to break
up heart parts of their roster. Some guys they don't want, well,
some they don't want, but some of more value. Well
you heard some of that from Isaac Low and Cron.
There is some news of the NBA in that Damian
Lillard's no longer talking about the Portland Trailblazers, even though
he's still technically a Portland Trailblazers. And Jerry Judy another
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wide receiver. Second consecutive day in which the Broncos have
lost a wide receiver, this one hamstring. So maybe it's
not that bad, But hamstring injuries it can be very,
very difficult, especially at that position, with any position, to
come back from because you feel like you're back and.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Then you pull it again. So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
But let's start with the news of the day. We've
gotten to the I'm just gonna check my phone. I
can't even watch time for the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, right,
I'm an Angel fan, and yesterday they lost a doubleheader
to the Reds. Reds are good. Angels are not, even
with Mike Trout back. They just don't have it. And
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what felt like a possible feel good story in baseball
is now, what a bunch of dopes?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Why didn't they trade away show Heyo Tani?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
But then a weird thing happened when I woke up
today and looked at my phone, show Heyo Tani has
at least a partial tear of his UCL in his
throwing arm. Now, of course, he's had this before. He
had Tommy John surgery. Before and after having off season surgery,
he did hit, but didn't pitch for an entire year,
which leads us to a question which I think we
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all know the answer, or I think, but I don't know.
We're told or we've come to believe that pitchers who
come back from Tommy Don surgery are always going to
be better and never going to tear it again. That
obviously is not the case. He hasn't been nearly as
dominant pitching this year, and now maybe we know why,
and he also reinjured it. So could this news actually
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be the best news ever for the Angels, Because now
you say, hey, look whatever, our last number was five
hundred million dollars, we'll keep it. If you're the Dodgers
and Ramos, you're a Dodger fan, are you still gonna
go all in on six hundred million dollars for Shoo
Tani If he's not a pitcher, and he won't be
a pitcher at least for another year, and even when
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he comes back from being a pitcher, if he does
he want to pitch anymore, what does that all look like? So,
I mean, this is one of those. Obviously, his market
value is going to take a dip on some level.
I don't know how great, but it actually could be
decent news long term for the Angels. What are you
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gonna say, Ramos, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I was gonna say, it's it's It definitely is. It's.
It's sucks is what it does for show heo Tani.
I mean this thiss gotta be one of the biggest
stories of the year. A guy set up to be
a free agent, set up to be one of the
highest paid players in baseball period, and I still think
he's going to be one of the highest pade players.
But it's it's really throws at everything into a loose
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I file the Dodgers. I still go after him because
I think that he's just a great player.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
He's not.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
He can I mean, the guy's gonna hit forty forty
home runs a year, driving one hundred RBIs so right there,
like Aaron Judge. That's enough to warrant a lot of money.
But maybe he can become a closer, Doug. Maybe he
can become a guy comes in in the ninth inning
and throw his slider and all those pitches just one,
you know, one ending and get out of that starting pitching.
That maybe another story edge which wear.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
And tear on the elbow.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, yeah, the value thing is the really interesting one,
and it could be a win for the Angels. Like
if you're right now, you're already, Marina, and you pick
up the phone and you call his agent and go like, look,
nothing's changed, we want him now. It might not be
smart business, but it's really it wasn't smart business to
hold on to him either, And that becomes it just
becomes fascinating that we were all convinced Shohtani will be
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the highest paid pitcher, highest played player in the history
of the sport. And this doesn't take away from being
a hitter. There's lots of people like, look, he can
still be a great hitter. Can He's a great outfielder,
and he runs well and he throws well, like he's
he has all five tools. Obviously we don't know about
throwing going forward in the future. But the point is
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all of this doesn't affect him as a hitter. And
I know people in baseball like, he doesn't even actually
need to pitch. But and it's not really a circus
act because he's a very good pitcher. He's not as dominant.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
As he's been.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Do you think Doug when they you know, they held
him out of his last start before yesterday against the
Reds with arm fatigue. This was the same thing that
happened with Max Schurzer last year in the playoffs. Do
you think maybe they should have just stopped him pitching,
shut him down, shut him down at that point since
they were eight games out of the wild card and
why risk it? And they did it and we see
what happened. You would you blame the Angels a little
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bit or would you kind of give him a pass?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I don't know enough about it.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I mean, I know the Angels have been besieged by
injuries and their training staff has been questioned in the past.
I don't think there's any way they would throw Shoheo
Tani out there unless they thought that he was right.
But it you know, I operate under the assumption that
this thing was probably torn before that. I think you're right,
you know, this thing was probably torn and we don't
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know what he said was bothering him. But now they know,
and it's not good. It's not good at all. Stut
Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. So it does
nothing to really to major League Baseball now currently right
the Angels aren't really a player now playing the Mets.
But it's just a devastating blow to baseball. And it's
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what's the eval of it. What happens with the market.
And you know we I think we all are kind
of victims of this. I like to use real estate
as the perfect example. So many of us were thinking
about being on the market, like three years ago when
the rates were in the twos and housing prices were
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suppress because we were coming out of a pandemic. And
you know, after the pandemic, people moved to all the
suburbs and bought up all the houses. And you know,
people who were in the suburbs made a ton of money,
or by the beach cities made a ton of money
on their homes. Right now, really hard and you're you know,
because now you're you're paying in the seven six ers
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or sevens in terms of your your interest rate. So
prices are high, interest rates are high, inventory is low,
and you know, if you own a nice house, why
would you get out of it? Because then to get
in a new one, you got to get a new
interest rate. And that'll even for the same house. It
will increase your payment by thousands, not ones or twos
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or ten dollars. I just I do wonder about the
psyche of Sho Heeo Tani, knowing that with this move
to pitch for the Angels and pitch an extra start,
he probably costs himself hundreds of millions of dollars. Progressive
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hundred Progressive. I mean, we could even do it. The
Angels cursed? Are they the new Clippers? Although they've actually
won a World Series before? They have, Yes, twenty one
years ago, but in eighty seven, Donny Moore gave up
the home run. I had tickets to the World Series.
I said some very mean things about Donny Moore, and
then obviously he he died at far too young in age.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Joe huh.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
And in eighty two they were up two games to
none on the Brewers heading back to Milwaukee and lost
three in a row.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
So that's Angels baseball.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
So we'll check in with John Paul Morosi and figure
out what this does for his value.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Plus, well, we'll look.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
At the two former Mets who are now pitching very
well in their new homes and what that's done to
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Actually, in baseball today, Steven Strasburg retires right remember when
he was supposed to be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Still a good career.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's always interesting on what happens we the number one
pick and how it changes the perception of somebody's career, right,
like Steven Strasburg. How many wins over under on wins?
Let me ask you, Ilo, how many wins do you
think Steven Strassburg has in his career?
Speaker 7 (11:10):
Am I allowed to answer this question before or after
I've looked it up on Baseball Reference dot Com? Or Okay,
I'm gonna say one hundred and twenty four.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Romo's over and over under under that? Okay, what do
you guess the number from h sixty five? Okay, it's over,
It's one thirteen. Okay, two hundred and forty seven career starts.
So obviously that's disappointing. Right, last three years he's barely played,
and you know he had he had some solid, solid years,
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some really good years.
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Matter of fact, you know.
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He had in the meat of his career he had
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two and he was fifteen and four. Maybe's a good pitcher,
but I think it's because of the hype, right that
anybody else ends up one thirteen and sixty two, they
end up with seventeen hundred strikeouts. They're essentially a starter
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for nine years in the BIGS, they win a World Series,
win a World Series MVP, and you're like, that's a
pretty good pitcher. But I would guess that when you
say Steven Strasburg and his career is over, you're like,
that's kind of disappointing. John Paul Barossi joins us MLB
on Fox of course, uh, major League Baseball inside of
four Fox Sports Radio. How do you view Strasburg's career
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now that he calls it today?
Speaker 8 (12:32):
So good afternoon. It's a really interesting point that you
make about how the number one pick in a lot
of ways skews the way that you view his career
because to a large extent, I think he, by any
sort of reasonable recognition, one hundred wins for a major
league pitcher is elite. Really, it's not the Hall of Fame.
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But if you win more than one hundred games, you've
had an amazing career in baseball. And I also point
to this, you think about what he did during the postseason,
dougs a one point four to six ERA in nine appearances,
eight of them starts. That is a remarkable, remarkable number.
Your ERA is under two, including a win in an
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elimination Game six in a World Series. So he had
some moments, and I think that, especially with the postseason
aspect of things, he was He was unfairly criticized for
the shutdown of twenty twelve, which was not, of course
his decision. It sort of painted him as someone that
didn't quote unquote answer the bell in the postseason in
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twenty twelve out of his control. When you look at
twenty fourteen and on, he was excellent in the playoffs.
He won one hundred games. He had a very good
career that certainly could have been better had he enjoyed
better health. He was one of the most hyped prospects
in the history of the game. He will not be
a Hall of Famer, but he had what I think,
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by any reckoning, would be a very good major league career.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Wow, I completely agree with you.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
John Paul Morossi joins us than Doug Gottlieb Show show
here Tony has at least a partial tear of his UCL.
What does this do to his value in the offseason?
Speaker 8 (14:15):
Well, Doug, that is one of the great questions that
we're discussing as an industry right now. I think no
one really knows for sure, because first of all, we're
not yet certain that he's going to have surgery. Certainly
that's one of the options, but we don't know that yet.
We also don't know how he's going to respond at
the end of the day, and how his representation at
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CIA will handle things this offseason. Do they move forward
and say, if there is surgery to be done, do
you do it now and effectively get it out of
the way, and say we want to get back on
the mound in a year plus. I mean, obviously, if
he were to have a Tommy John surgery he's not
pitching at all in twenty twenty four. How long should
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the deal be or does he effectively And again I'm
speculating here, but I think it's one of the things
that we should think about. Do you take a two
year deal at a very high aav with the idea
being that next year would be at best a hitting
only situation, and then potentially he could return to pitch
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again if hes f surgery by twenty twenty five, and
then after a healthier platform year, you then go back
out on the open market and see what you can
do after the twenty five season. I think that's one possibility.
But I think, Doug, what we're speaking about is twofold
number one. It reminds us of how tenuous this always
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was and how important it was for us to truly
appreciate the grandeur and the historic nature of what he
was doing while it was happening, because Babe Ruth himself
said it wasn't possible to do. And I think now
that you look at is what has done? Does it
change what he's doing forever? Is he ever able to
get back to this mountaintop again? Is there all valid questions?
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And I think, Doug, there's a lot more questions right
now than answers as it relates to.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Show Otani, where are you?
Speaker 8 (16:10):
I'm trying to successfully keep two of my three kids
away from asking me a lot of questions right now
at at I'm at a playground where I thought the
kids were going to occupy themselves, Doug, But you know,
sometimes they the kids have other plans, especially when we
know I like this.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
So what what what are they playing on currently? Are
there slides? Are they climbing up stuff? What's the question?
Speaker 8 (16:34):
So my youngest Blue Lu is asking me, sweetheart, what's
your question? Love? I'm sticking with mister Gottlieb on Fox
Sports Radio tell.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Me, fine, go ahead, low what's your question?
Speaker 8 (16:44):
Okay? The spot to go is right over there, and
I'll come find you in two minutes. Okay, good job, kiddo.
All right, I bought ourselves a little bit more time.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
So so what give give me the picture of the
playground equipment we're looking at here?
Speaker 8 (16:56):
So this is uh, it is a ductory day at
the elementary school. We got this meeting their teachers and
I sort of said, okay, kids, go meet your teachers.
And while I talked to mister Gottlieb, and the idea
is The idea was great. The execution on my part
and the kid's part has been a little bit suboptimal.
But at the very least I still have some thoughts
on Showy to share with you.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I love that. I love that.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Eventually, Okay, could this be the opportunity for the Angels
to bring him back? Only in that you know, Ardi
Marino go like, look, the deal is still good with us.
We're still good? Does this because previous to this announcement,
this has been an abject disaster, right they and they
didn't win in August forever. They the series against Seattle
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where they lost every game by a run, just torpedo
their season. And now you get trout back and they
get swept in a double dip yesterday. Could this actually
end up working out better for the Angels?
Speaker 8 (17:54):
Well, in a strange way, I think the answer is yes,
the least as it relates to them keeping him for
the long term or at least the next couple of years.
Because so if you're a show way, let's think about
it this way. If you have to go down the
road of surgery, how do you feel about totally changing
teams right now before you have an operation? If you
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have to go down that road and then and then
you try to bounce back and perform in a new
place in a way that either makes you a championship
level pitcher again in twenty five or sets yourself up
for a lucrative free agent pay day at the same time.
These are all questions that I think that he and
his representation are looking at very very seriously. Part of this, though,
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Doug is as follows. If I were him, and again
I'm not him, but if I were sitting down and
advising him on this, and I think you have to
set and we don't know this right now. The question
of do you really want to be a pitcher still?
Like is this how important is it to you? Maybe
it's a better way to ask it, how important is
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it to you to still be a pitcher? And then
make the plan from there. If your whole plan is
I've got to be a pitcher again, then I would
say you go to the place that your agency and
representation have looked around the entire sport and said, I
believe the single best place for you to come back
from a second Tommy John surgery is this team. Go
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to that team and then figure out the commitment level
of that team to let you be a pitcher and say, listen,
I'll sign with you and you're going to benefit from
having my name and number on all these jerseys for
the for the really for the rest of time. And
then you find a way to go with that team
and make you the best effort that you can to
come back and pitch with that team on probably a
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two year deal, and then figure out the rest of
your career from there. And if that place is the
Angels with all the familiarity, then just say an Anheim
and they know you the trainers know you all those things.
But if there's a team out there that you say,
you know what, I like the way they've brought players
back from Tommy John before a second Tommy John, and
I think they've got the best rehab process, the best trainers,
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the best doctors, all of those things. Look at it
as you're no longer thinking about, Doug, where can I
get my six hundred million dollar record setting ultimate contract
in the history of pro sports as of yesterday as
the last night, I just don't think that's in the
cards right now. It might be down the line, but
the timing obviously could not be worse for show Ay,
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and in some ways from the Angels perspective, it does
create the environment whereby staying in Anaheim might be a
more appealing option than what it would have been earlier
on this week.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
The Yankees are losing to day, but they won yesterday
after nine game losing streak. How secure should Aaron Boone
feel in his position, Doug, I.
Speaker 8 (20:48):
Think at this point in time, I don't think anybody
with the Yankees, with the exception of Aaron Judge, is
really secure in his spot. Aaron Judge and Garrett Cole
so people. I think those are the two people that
I know for certain are going to be with this
organization on opening day of twenty twenty four. Everybody else,
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I think it's open questions up and down the roster,
up and down the infrastructure of the organization, because, Doug,
when you look at this team, there are teams that
go through cycles where they don't win, and that happens,
and that's understandable. The Yankees have done nothing but have
winning seasons for decades, and they should be respected and
admired for that. But when you have a team that
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is both old and expensive, which is what they are,
one of the larger pay rolls in the game, the
largest or the oldest group of position players in Major
League Baseball. When you are both old and expensive and
your young players have not yet shown they can carry
the weight of this organization going forward, you've got major issues.
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And the Yankees right now have major issues. You know,
they thought that last year that they had to go
out there and spend a bunch of money on free
agent pitching, and they did. They signed Rodan. It's been
a disaster for him individually and for the team overall.
Whether it was Donaldson Lemayhew's inability to replicate his success.
Vader's been injured at different times, Anton has missed a
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lot of time as well. Bolpi, I think overall you've
seen power and defense, but the average has not been there.
They're just shorts in a division where everybody else is
really good, and this is where you compare, and it's
just part of the misfortune of being in that division.
If they were in the AL Central, they might be
winning the division right now, they're not, and a team
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like Baltimore is only going to get better. Toronto's still
in their window. Boston has shown a lot more to
me this year than the Yankees have. So I'm just
a lot more competent just about everybody else in the
American League East than the Yankees are, and so I
don't think that they can be sure anybody can be
sure about Aaron Boone's job because they just have not
been able to deliver the good down the field since
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about the month of May this season.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Completely agree with you.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
What do you make of the resurgence of Cody Bellinger?
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Great story. I think he got to a spot where
his shoulder was sound and he believed. Now after two
or three years that he's finally able to trust that
shoulder and swing like he means it every single time.
I think, Doug In, whether it's for us as broadcasters,
or for for anybody in the working world, or for
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players on the field, confidence and having conviction of what
you do is everything, and I think for a long
time Cody Bellinger did not have that, and now he does.
And we can talk about mechanics, and mechanics might be
part of it where he's able to hit the ball
on a truer trajectory now and drive it better into
the gaps. That's all true in Chicago, but I also
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think that it was a change of scenery, a different voice,
and just renewed confidence that he can still will be
the MVP level hitter that he was years ago, and
that's proven to be true. So I'm I'm thrilled for him.
And by the way, I think he's going to be
a tremendous free agent of offseason. I think his his
marketplace is all of a sudden gotten to be a
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lot more interesting because if you're going to compare and
he's not, all of a sudden get a catapult to
a Aaron Judge contract in one year, but if with
the uncertainty surrounding show A, and if you were to
look at Showy and say he's going to be a
d H and you're not sure about the pitchings versus Bellinger,
who is a Gold Glove level defender in center field
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and potentially first base if you need him. So he's
a more versatile defender. He's not the hitter the show
he is in terms of the quite the same output,
but he's close and he's a much more versatile defender.
So what does that get you? I think it's going
to be a fascinating discussion to where there are probably
some teams, Doug, that would tell you that, with now
this uncertainty surrounding show A's arm, that they might rather
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actually have Bellinger than Showy, which is a remarkable statement,
but I think it's accurate based on the events of
this week.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
That's crazy, absolutely crazy. All right, get back to Lulu
and the kids. We appreciate spend some time away.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Thank you, Doug. I appreciate it. I thought I had
found a nice quiet place. But you know how kids are, man,
they just they find you. It's like the game, the
game will find you when you put in that one
defensive back off the bench for the first time in
the second quarter. The ball's coming in his direction.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Well, it's it's a kid you put in right field, like,
don't hit the ball right field, and that kid can't catch,
and sure enough that's where the ball goes.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
The game.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
The game will find you, The kids will find you.
It's always true, my friends.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
John Paul Morosi, father insider, sideline reporter, baseball Iceberg swordinaire,
thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 8 (25:46):
Thanks Doug, all the best, Thank you.
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Got, Doug Denver Broncos receiver Jerry Judy gonna have an
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during today's joint practice with the Los Angeles Rams. The
Arizona Cardinals trading safety and twenty twenty first round pick
Isaiah Simmons to the New York Giants. ESPN reported as
well that The Cardinals are now also trading offensive tackle
Josh Jones to the Houston Texans. The Seattle Seahawks officially
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the Washington Post reports Nationalist pitcher Steven Strasburg will announce
his retirement in early September. Strasburg number one overall pick
in two thousand nine, the World Series MVP and twenty
nineteen for the Nationals, but has not pitched since June
of last year due to injury. Right now, the Nationals
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holding on to a five to four lead against the Yankees.
In the bottom of the eighth inning, Aaron Judge his
fourth home run in two games. The Los Angeles Dodgers
have just resumed at Cleveland with a six to one
lead over the Guardians. In the top of the ninth inning,
a game in which Mookie Betts is five for five.
They are finishing off a game that was suspended from yesterday,
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so they're still set to play yet another game. And
right now in Houston they are in the bottom of
the third inning. It's the Red Sox eleven the Astros. Nothing,
Doug back to you.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Thanks Eilo. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
This is going to be me ripping bad radio hosts
and people who truly don't understand the sports that they
think they understand. I'll give you an example, the San
Francisco forty nine ers. It looks like they'll probably get
it giveaway or cut Trey Lance. And what you get
is people going like.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, neither suck. Jarvin sucks. So what a bust?
Speaker 8 (28:12):
What like?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
And we have no ability to take a breath and go, okay,
well it was not a good pick.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
They're like, well they had to trade up.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, you're not getting the number three pick in the
draft unless you trade up. And I would point out
that Zach Wilson went number two. Zach Wilson is no
closer to being a starting quarterback than Trey Lances. He
was awful last year, awful, awful. They didn't even have
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It's like, now there's Aaron Rodgers. They didn't even have
like viable dudes like anybody but him. Right, So the
first thing is it's not a perfect science. Even science,
by the way, is like, do you guys know what
a what's something a factually correct by science scientific data is?
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You know it's ninety seven percent right above ninety seven percent,
because there just isn't one hundred There aren't things that
are just one hundredercent. Outside of the sun rising in
the east one hundred percent of the time setting in
the west one hundred percent of time, there's no like
one hundred percent. So even science is an exact science
scientifically speaking, and this is not an exact science.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
It's not close.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
What I find to be interesting is I have I
guess I have too much time in my hands. I watched
too many shows and listen to too many shows, and
you'll hear people ripping the niners, and my feeling for
it is quite the opposite. Despite the fact that they
use several picks to move up and draft. Trey Lance,
who has thrown what too had taken two hundred and
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sixty two snaps as a quarterback in the NFL. Despite that,
they still feel like they should have won the NFC
Championship game. They still figured it out. And they're not
the only ones I mentioned Zach Wilson. We should also
point out, okay, that that year was the COVID year,
and like, what does that have to do with it?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Everything? You had one game?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
One game is all Trey Lance played one game to
evaluate him. You look at Zach Wilson. Why did they
miss on Zach Wilson? Well, at least a portion of
it could be you're evaluating him. Do you remember who
they played that year? Like the best team by you
played was Coastal Carolina. Coastal Carolina. I mean, like, let's
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go through it, and that two of the best players
Jamar Chase didn't play football that year.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Trevor Lawrence wasn't great that year.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
He was the number one pick, Like, kind of go
through it right, Like, well, Justin Fields, I mean, just
is Justin Fields a great quarterback. I think Mac Jones
should have been the guy. I think Kyle Shanahan is.
You know, he's gonna win other arguments because that was
the guy that he wanted. But I mean like, let's
are we just being honest here and trying to figure
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out Travis Aten hadn't been great go through that year?
That was a all drafts are difficult. No one bats
a thousand. Alex Leatherwood went to the Raiders. Remember how
about a disasters. I think he just got picked up
by somebody in the league. Right, It was really really
difficult to draft that year. It's difficult to draft and
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evaluate anyway. And when you'll know, it's not just that
you only have one game of Trey Lance. You couldn't
be on campus to you know, evaluate these guys. Everything
the whole world was on zoom and oh yeah, by
the way, while we can all admit the Niners screwed
it up, they still figreigured it out.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
The Jets screwed it up, and they were awful last year.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
And just by happens since they've been able to hire
his offensive coordinator because they're in the NAFC, they got
the Packers to trade them Aaron Rodgers, and it feels
like they'll be good, that the Niners are going to
be good regards.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
To who the quarterback is. But the people going like
Nanna booboo, the Niners are dumb, like, yeah, they missed, right,
they missed.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
The Broncos went out last year and gave Russell Wilson
a brand new contract and the fit was a little weird.
But ask anybody, did you think that would work? Like, yeah,
Russe Wilson's good and he was awful.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
He was awful.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
There is not a team that doesn't miss. There is
not a player that does miss. It's how you react
to that miss can you still figure it out? So
when you hear hack job radio guys or TV guys
act like the Niners don't know what they're doing because
they missed on Tree Lance.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
They missed on Tree Lance.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
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the NFL season getting started. Chris Jones is still holding
out with the Kansasy Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
And I was just.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I do think there's a little something called complacency that
we have to be realistic about with the Chiefs. This
is not in any way an indictment of Andy Reid.
He's awesome, or even if Pat Mahomes he's awesome, right,
And you know, I mean they have some I don't
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think their schedule is crazy out of the gate. It's
like they have the Lions, and we love the Lions
because the Lions, you know, finished above five hundred last
year and beat the Packers last game in the season.
But do we really think the Lions are a championship
caliber team? Is especially in Kansas City, the answer is no.
But the Jaguars second the season. Remember the Jaguars kind
of had the Chiefs in the playoffs, or at least
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played them very competitively.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Then he hit the Bears.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Then they go to the Jets, to the Vikings, Broncos
at home, Charges at home, and then to the Broncos.
So some of this we just don't know in terms
of how good those teams are. We have no idea
and we don't know who's gonna be healthy. But it should
be pointed out that the Chiefs, well, now we've hit
the Pat Mahomes is making real money. We don't know
if Chris Jones is playing. I do think eventually he plays, so,
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but if we're honest with ourselves about the past couple
of years, we'd say, hey, they could be fairly complacent in.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
The regular season.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Right last year they opened up four and one.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
That helps. They went on a run at the end
of the year.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Could have lost that Chargers game, but the Chargers didn't
get screwed up down the red zone dominated Cardinals to
start the season, who made the playoffs previous year were
bad last year lost to Indy that ends up becoming
like the worst loss of the season in football. You know,
beat up on Tampa, beat the Raiders by a point.
Games were really close early and so I guess my
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question is, you know, this is not me saying chicken
little sky is falling, but I do realize that Pat
Mahomes has saved them so many times, and at times
he would save them because they had Tyreek Hill. You
still have Travis Kelcey, who seems like a cheat code.
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You still have an incredible coach, and maybe they're better coached.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
It's like one of the things.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
You look at with their coaching staff in I mean,
I've said this before.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
We all act like Eric b.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Enemy was some great assistant coach, you know, but the
fact is that all they did in Kansas City when
he left. When he left, they basically bumped up you know,
bumped up a guy who has been a head coach
before into being an offensive coordinator, you know, And I
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just think it's it's amazing, truly amazing what they've been
able to do. But at some point there does come
a complacency. There does come Hey, it's a copy of
a copy, doesn't there.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Isn't that fair?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I mean, I do wonder Andy Reid's is a head coach,
Matt Naggi is now the offensive coordinat of course, Naggy.
It is interesting we make a big deal about the enemy,
whereas Naggi was gonna take the enemy spot anyway. And
they have Steve Spagnola, who's good, but Spagnolo stuff sometimes
that runs cold Naggy stuff. I mean, it's it's the
same over and over again. I'm just fascinated by are
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they really you know, last year, by the time they
got to the end of the year, that wide receiving
corp wasn't great. Here's a question, Uh, let me ask
any of you guys, can you name any of the
top four wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
For the Kansasity Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Good question, Doug not knock counting, not counting Travis Kelt
because he's a tight end, correct, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, there's one more that people know his name because
it's kind of a unique name and he played somewhere else.
Uh No, Juju's not on I don't think Jujus on
their team anymore. Marcus Faldez scanting.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Ah with the Packers a right.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Like their starting wide receivers Orkadarius Tony, Marcus Valda, Scantling
and Sky Moore, you know, and I love and this
this kind of goes back to what I was saying
about the Niners is they drafted Clyde Edwards Hilaire in
the first round, Isaiah Pacheco in the seventh round last year.
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Isaiah Checko is the starter. But like, there's not there
are no wow guys outside of Travis Kelcey and Pat Mahomes. Now,
some of that is the magic of Mahomes. I mean,
he's incredible, and Andy Reid's a tremendous coach. Defensively, if
they don't have Chris Jones, that's a very different football team.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
And they're good, but they're not great.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I just I'm really interested to see if this is
a year in which the Chiefs every game becomes close,
every game they have to almost like the Seahawks with
Russell Wilson. He's got to win it for them, and
we've seen them more often than not be able to,
you know. So anyway, that's my one thought coming into
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the year, Like I go through all these teams and
it's like, I actually think the Giants, you know, part
of it was that NFC East they had such a
soft schedule, but I thought they've gotten better.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I think they're going to be really good this year.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
I think the Eagles feels like they might take a
step back, lose your coordinators, lose some guys, and harder schedule.
Cowboys feel like they're the same.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
We look at the AFC West and I believe the
Chargers have the best talent in the AFC West, but
they don't have the confidence of Mahomes or the confidence
of a head coach who's been there and done that before.
So I'd still pick the Chiefs to win the division.
But the Chiefs shouldn't win the division on paper, should not.
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And I know games aren't one on paper, they're one
inside television sets.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
That's a Kenny main line. Nobody got there.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
None of you guys laughed, Any guys even smile. You know,
I can get I can get Ramos to laugh and
smile at anything, but that one was actually a line
you're sus supposed to smile on.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
So you're saying they're just writing I always love this
when whenever they put like the top twelve or fifteen
high school teams or preseason stuff, it's always like the
same teams, but the people don't really look into the team.
They just go, well, they came in third last year,
so we'll put them third this year. That's kind of
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your theory about the Chiefs is that, well, they're so
good they have to be that they have to win
the AFC West. There'sn't really challenge, but you're saying there
is a challenge.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Oh, I think the Charge I mean, like, look, Charge
is always playing close Chargers talent wise is better. And
the reason I think it's better is, you know, they
haven't had to do what the Chiefs had to do
with Pat Mahomes contract yet. Now eventually they will when
Justin Herbert's contract goes live, and you know, Keenan Allen
will probably be somewhere else in a year, but they're
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not in that space yet, so they have that's a
crazy talented roster. Derwin James is among the ten best
football players.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
In the world.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Okay, he's that good when he's healthy. Joey Bosa is
one of the best pass rushers? Is he Chris Jones?
He's different? But whatever, you know, you kind of go
through like they have dudes and the Chiefs. I know
they won the Super Bowl. I was there, I watched
the whole thing, and it's my home. But and how
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many times has he been able to pull a rabbit
out of a you know what Jaguars game was a rabbit.
You know, the defense came up big against the Bengals.
They the Bengals were the better team for a good
portion of that game. And you don't have Tyreek Hill.
We'll see if they have Chris Jones. And you know,
they've kind of cycled through a lot of guys, a
lot of guys offensively. I just I mean, if he
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wins it this year, say wins again, You're like, man,
that is not a great supporting cast. It's a great
coaching staff and like a good overall team. But that's
show me the guys that you're going to write down
the history books is all time greats. I don't see
them there, and that that speaks volumes for Mahomes and
for Andy Reek.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yes, Sir John.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Ronos, I assume the one drawback that I've heard from
many people for the charges of probably the head coach.
Will Kellen Moore help that? Will he be that type
of offensive coordinator that can help open.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
I don't know. I don't know. I think, but I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I have no idea. We don't know anything until they
actually play football, right college football, especially because so many
guys are in new places. But I just I remember
watching the Chiefs last year in the Soup Bowl, and
obviously they had some injuries, and you know, you're working
through no name wide receivers and you're like, this is
not a great team or a great group like individual players. Now,
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Firesale in Phoenix as the Cardinals have started to break
up heart parts of their roster. Some guys they don't want, well,
some they don't want, but some of more value. Well
you heard some of that from Isaac Low and Cron.
There is some news of the NBA in that Damian
Lillard's no longer talking about the Portland Trailblazers, even though
he's still technically a Portland Trailblazers. And Jerry Judy another
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wide receiver. Second consecutive day in which the Broncos have
lost a wide receiver, this one hamstring. So maybe it's
not that bad, But hamstring injuries it can be very,
very difficult, especially at that position, with any position, to
come back from because you feel like you're back and.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Then you pull it again. So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
But let's start with the news of the day. We've
gotten to the I'm just gonna check my phone. I
can't even watch time for the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, right,
I'm an Angel fan, and yesterday they lost a doubleheader
to the Reds. Reds are good. Angels are not, even
with Mike Trout back. They just don't have it. And
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what felt like a possible feel good story in baseball
is now, what a bunch of dopes?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Why didn't they trade away show Heyo Tani?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
But then a weird thing happened when I woke up
today and looked at my phone, show Heyo Tani has
at least a partial tear of his UCL in his
throwing arm. Now, of course, he's had this before. He
had Tommy John surgery. Before and after having off season surgery,
he did hit, but didn't pitch for an entire year,
which leads us to a question which I think we
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all know the answer, or I think, but I don't know.
We're told or we've come to believe that pitchers who
come back from Tommy Don surgery are always going to
be better and never going to tear it again. That
obviously is not the case. He hasn't been nearly as
dominant pitching this year, and now maybe we know why,
and he also reinjured it. So could this news actually
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be the best news ever for the Angels, Because now
you say, hey, look whatever, our last number was five
hundred million dollars, we'll keep it. If you're the Dodgers
and Ramos, you're a Dodger fan, are you still gonna
go all in on six hundred million dollars for Shoo
Tani If he's not a pitcher, and he won't be
a pitcher at least for another year, and even when
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he comes back from being a pitcher, if he does
he want to pitch anymore, what does that all look like? So,
I mean, this is one of those. Obviously, his market
value is going to take a dip on some level.
I don't know how great, but it actually could be
decent news long term for the Angels. What are you
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gonna say, Ramos, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I was gonna say, it's it's It definitely is. It's.
It's sucks is what it does for show heo Tani.
I mean this thiss gotta be one of the biggest
stories of the year. A guy set up to be
a free agent, set up to be one of the
highest paid players in baseball period, and I still think
he's going to be one of the highest pade players.
But it's it's really throws at everything into a loose
(04:00):
I file the Dodgers. I still go after him because
I think that he's just a great player.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
He's not.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
He can I mean, the guy's gonna hit forty forty
home runs a year, driving one hundred RBIs so right there,
like Aaron Judge. That's enough to warrant a lot of money.
But maybe he can become a closer, Doug. Maybe he
can become a guy comes in in the ninth inning
and throw his slider and all those pitches just one,
you know, one ending and get out of that starting pitching.
That maybe another story edge which wear.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
And tear on the elbow.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, yeah, the value thing is the really interesting one,
and it could be a win for the Angels. Like
if you're right now, you're already, Marina, and you pick
up the phone and you call his agent and go like, look,
nothing's changed, we want him now. It might not be
smart business, but it's really it wasn't smart business to
hold on to him either, And that becomes it just
becomes fascinating that we were all convinced Shohtani will be
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the highest paid pitcher, highest played player in the history
of the sport. And this doesn't take away from being
a hitter. There's lots of people like, look, he can
still be a great hitter. Can He's a great outfielder,
and he runs well and he throws well, like he's
he has all five tools. Obviously we don't know about
throwing going forward in the future. But the point is
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all of this doesn't affect him as a hitter. And
I know people in baseball like, he doesn't even actually
need to pitch. But and it's not really a circus
act because he's a very good pitcher. He's not as dominant.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
As he's been.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Do you think Doug when they you know, they held
him out of his last start before yesterday against the
Reds with arm fatigue. This was the same thing that
happened with Max Schurzer last year in the playoffs. Do
you think maybe they should have just stopped him pitching,
shut him down, shut him down at that point since
they were eight games out of the wild card and
why risk it? And they did it and we see
what happened. You would you blame the Angels a little
(05:49):
bit or would you kind of give him a pass?
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I don't know enough about it.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I mean, I know the Angels have been besieged by
injuries and their training staff has been questioned in the past.
I don't think there's any way they would throw Shoheo
Tani out there unless they thought that he was right.
But it you know, I operate under the assumption that
this thing was probably torn before that. I think you're right,
you know, this thing was probably torn and we don't
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know what he said was bothering him. But now they know,
and it's not good. It's not good at all. Stut
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nothing to really to major League Baseball now currently right
the Angels aren't really a player now playing the Mets.
But it's just a devastating blow to baseball. And it's
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what's the eval of it. What happens with the market.
And you know we I think we all are kind
of victims of this. I like to use real estate
as the perfect example. So many of us were thinking
about being on the market, like three years ago when
the rates were in the twos and housing prices were
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suppress because we were coming out of a pandemic. And
you know, after the pandemic, people moved to all the
suburbs and bought up all the houses. And you know,
people who were in the suburbs made a ton of money,
or by the beach cities made a ton of money
on their homes. Right now, really hard and you're you know,
because now you're you're paying in the seven six ers
(07:21):
or sevens in terms of your your interest rate. So
prices are high, interest rates are high, inventory is low,
and you know, if you own a nice house, why
would you get out of it? Because then to get
in a new one, you got to get a new
interest rate. And that'll even for the same house. It
will increase your payment by thousands, not ones or twos
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won a World Series before? They have, Yes, twenty one
years ago, but in eighty seven, Donny Moore gave up
the home run. I had tickets to the World Series.
I said some very mean things about Donny Moore, and
then obviously he he died at far too young in age.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Joe huh.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
And in eighty two they were up two games to
none on the Brewers heading back to Milwaukee and lost
three in a row.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
So that's Angels baseball.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
So we'll check in with John Paul Morosi and figure
out what this does for his value.
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Plus, well, we'll look.
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Speaker 2 (10:38):
Actually, in baseball today, Steven Strasburg retires right remember when
he was supposed to be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Still a good career.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's always interesting on what happens we the number one
pick and how it changes the perception of somebody's career, right,
like Steven Strasburg. How many wins over under on wins?
Let me ask you, Ilo, how many wins do you
think Steven Strassburg has in his career?
Speaker 7 (11:10):
Am I allowed to answer this question before or after
I've looked it up on Baseball Reference dot Com? Or Okay,
I'm gonna say one hundred and twenty four.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Romo's over and over under under that? Okay, what do
you guess the number from h sixty five? Okay, it's over,
It's one thirteen. Okay, two hundred and forty seven career starts.
So obviously that's disappointing. Right, last three years he's barely played,
and you know he had he had some solid, solid years,
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some really good years.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Matter of fact, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
He had in the meat of his career he had
one great season where his ERA was two point five
two and he was fifteen and four. Maybe's a good pitcher,
but I think it's because of the hype, right that
anybody else ends up one thirteen and sixty two, they
end up with seventeen hundred strikeouts. They're essentially a starter
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for nine years in the BIGS, they win a World Series,
win a World Series MVP, and you're like, that's a
pretty good pitcher. But I would guess that when you
say Steven Strasburg and his career is over, you're like,
that's kind of disappointing. John Paul Barossi joins us MLB
on Fox of course, uh, major League Baseball inside of
four Fox Sports Radio. How do you view Strasburg's career
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now that he calls it today?
Speaker 8 (12:32):
So good afternoon. It's a really interesting point that you
make about how the number one pick in a lot
of ways skews the way that you view his career
because to a large extent, I think he, by any
sort of reasonable recognition, one hundred wins for a major
league pitcher is elite. Really, it's not the Hall of Fame.
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But if you win more than one hundred games, you've
had an amazing career in baseball. And I also point
to this, you think about what he did during the postseason,
dougs a one point four to six ERA in nine appearances,
eight of them starts. That is a remarkable, remarkable number.
Your ERA is under two, including a win in an
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elimination Game six in a World Series. So he had
some moments, and I think that, especially with the postseason
aspect of things, he was He was unfairly criticized for
the shutdown of twenty twelve, which was not, of course
his decision. It sort of painted him as someone that
didn't quote unquote answer the bell in the postseason in
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twenty twelve out of his control. When you look at
twenty fourteen and on, he was excellent in the playoffs.
He won one hundred games. He had a very good
career that certainly could have been better had he enjoyed
better health. He was one of the most hyped prospects
in the history of the game. He will not be
a Hall of Famer, but he had what I think,
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by any reckoning, would be a very good major league career.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Wow, I completely agree with you.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
John Paul Morossi joins us than Doug Gottlieb Show show
here Tony has at least a partial tear of his UCL.
What does this do to his value in the offseason?
Speaker 8 (14:15):
Well, Doug, that is one of the great questions that
we're discussing as an industry right now. I think no
one really knows for sure, because first of all, we're
not yet certain that he's going to have surgery. Certainly
that's one of the options, but we don't know that yet.
We also don't know how he's going to respond at
the end of the day, and how his representation at
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CIA will handle things this offseason. Do they move forward
and say, if there is surgery to be done, do
you do it now and effectively get it out of
the way, and say we want to get back on
the mound in a year plus. I mean, obviously, if
he were to have a Tommy John surgery he's not
pitching at all in twenty twenty four. How long should
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the deal be or does he effectively And again I'm
speculating here, but I think it's one of the things
that we should think about. Do you take a two
year deal at a very high aav with the idea
being that next year would be at best a hitting
only situation, and then potentially he could return to pitch
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again if hes f surgery by twenty twenty five, and
then after a healthier platform year, you then go back
out on the open market and see what you can
do after the twenty five season. I think that's one possibility.
But I think, Doug, what we're speaking about is twofold
number one. It reminds us of how tenuous this always
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was and how important it was for us to truly
appreciate the grandeur and the historic nature of what he
was doing while it was happening, because Babe Ruth himself
said it wasn't possible to do. And I think now
that you look at is what has done? Does it
change what he's doing forever? Is he ever able to
get back to this mountaintop again? Is there all valid questions?
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And I think, Doug, there's a lot more questions right
now than answers as it relates to.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Show Otani, where are you?
Speaker 8 (16:10):
I'm trying to successfully keep two of my three kids
away from asking me a lot of questions right now
at at I'm at a playground where I thought the
kids were going to occupy themselves, Doug, But you know,
sometimes they the kids have other plans, especially when we
know I like this.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
So what what what are they playing on currently? Are
there slides? Are they climbing up stuff? What's the question?
Speaker 8 (16:34):
So my youngest Blue Lu is asking me, sweetheart, what's
your question? Love? I'm sticking with mister Gottlieb on Fox
Sports Radio tell.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Me, fine, go ahead, low what's your question?
Speaker 8 (16:44):
Okay? The spot to go is right over there, and
I'll come find you in two minutes. Okay, good job, kiddo.
All right, I bought ourselves a little bit more time.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
So so what give give me the picture of the
playground equipment we're looking at here?
Speaker 8 (16:56):
So this is uh, it is a ductory day at
the elementary school. We got this meeting their teachers and
I sort of said, okay, kids, go meet your teachers.
And while I talked to mister Gottlieb, and the idea
is The idea was great. The execution on my part
and the kid's part has been a little bit suboptimal.
But at the very least I still have some thoughts
on Showy to share with you.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I love that. I love that.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Eventually, Okay, could this be the opportunity for the Angels
to bring him back? Only in that you know, Ardi
Marino go like, look, the deal is still good with us.
We're still good? Does this because previous to this announcement,
this has been an abject disaster, right they and they
didn't win in August forever. They the series against Seattle
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where they lost every game by a run, just torpedo
their season. And now you get trout back and they
get swept in a double dip yesterday. Could this actually
end up working out better for the Angels?
Speaker 8 (17:54):
Well, in a strange way, I think the answer is yes,
the least as it relates to them keeping him for
the long term or at least the next couple of years.
Because so if you're a show way, let's think about
it this way. If you have to go down the
road of surgery, how do you feel about totally changing
teams right now before you have an operation? If you
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have to go down that road and then and then
you try to bounce back and perform in a new
place in a way that either makes you a championship
level pitcher again in twenty five or sets yourself up
for a lucrative free agent pay day at the same time.
These are all questions that I think that he and
his representation are looking at very very seriously. Part of this, though,
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Doug is as follows. If I were him, and again
I'm not him, but if I were sitting down and
advising him on this, and I think you have to
set and we don't know this right now. The question
of do you really want to be a pitcher still?
Like is this how important is it to you? Maybe
it's a better way to ask it, how important is
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it to you to still be a pitcher? And then
make the plan from there. If your whole plan is
I've got to be a pitcher again, then I would
say you go to the place that your agency and
representation have looked around the entire sport and said, I
believe the single best place for you to come back
from a second Tommy John surgery is this team. Go
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to that team and then figure out the commitment level
of that team to let you be a pitcher and say, listen,
I'll sign with you and you're going to benefit from
having my name and number on all these jerseys for
the for the really for the rest of time. And
then you find a way to go with that team
and make you the best effort that you can to
come back and pitch with that team on probably a
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two year deal, and then figure out the rest of
your career from there. And if that place is the
Angels with all the familiarity, then just say an Anheim
and they know you the trainers know you all those things.
But if there's a team out there that you say,
you know what, I like the way they've brought players
back from Tommy John before a second Tommy John, and
I think they've got the best rehab process, the best trainers,
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the best doctors, all of those things. Look at it
as you're no longer thinking about, Doug, where can I
get my six hundred million dollar record setting ultimate contract
in the history of pro sports as of yesterday as
the last night, I just don't think that's in the
cards right now. It might be down the line, but
the timing obviously could not be worse for show Ay,
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and in some ways from the Angels perspective, it does
create the environment whereby staying in Anaheim might be a
more appealing option than what it would have been earlier
on this week.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
The Yankees are losing to day, but they won yesterday
after nine game losing streak. How secure should Aaron Boone
feel in his position, Doug, I.
Speaker 8 (20:48):
Think at this point in time, I don't think anybody
with the Yankees, with the exception of Aaron Judge, is
really secure in his spot. Aaron Judge and Garrett Cole
so people. I think those are the two people that
I know for certain are going to be with this
organization on opening day of twenty twenty four. Everybody else,
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I think it's open questions up and down the roster,
up and down the infrastructure of the organization, because, Doug,
when you look at this team, there are teams that
go through cycles where they don't win, and that happens,
and that's understandable. The Yankees have done nothing but have
winning seasons for decades, and they should be respected and
admired for that. But when you have a team that
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is both old and expensive, which is what they are,
one of the larger pay rolls in the game, the
largest or the oldest group of position players in Major
League Baseball. When you are both old and expensive and
your young players have not yet shown they can carry
the weight of this organization going forward, you've got major issues.
(21:54):
And the Yankees right now have major issues. You know,
they thought that last year that they had to go
out there and spend a bunch of money on free
agent pitching, and they did. They signed Rodan. It's been
a disaster for him individually and for the team overall.
Whether it was Donaldson Lemayhew's inability to replicate his success.
Vader's been injured at different times, Anton has missed a
(22:17):
lot of time as well. Bolpi, I think overall you've
seen power and defense, but the average has not been there.
They're just shorts in a division where everybody else is
really good, and this is where you compare, and it's
just part of the misfortune of being in that division.
If they were in the AL Central, they might be
winning the division right now, they're not, and a team
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like Baltimore is only going to get better. Toronto's still
in their window. Boston has shown a lot more to
me this year than the Yankees have. So I'm just
a lot more competent just about everybody else in the
American League East than the Yankees are, and so I
don't think that they can be sure anybody can be
sure about Aaron Boone's job because they just have not
been able to deliver the good down the field since
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about the month of May this season.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Completely agree with you.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
What do you make of the resurgence of Cody Bellinger?
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Great story. I think he got to a spot where
his shoulder was sound and he believed. Now after two
or three years that he's finally able to trust that
shoulder and swing like he means it every single time.
I think, Doug In, whether it's for us as broadcasters,
or for for anybody in the working world, or for
(23:32):
players on the field, confidence and having conviction of what
you do is everything, and I think for a long
time Cody Bellinger did not have that, and now he does.
And we can talk about mechanics, and mechanics might be
part of it where he's able to hit the ball
on a truer trajectory now and drive it better into
the gaps. That's all true in Chicago, but I also
(23:54):
think that it was a change of scenery, a different voice,
and just renewed confidence that he can still will be
the MVP level hitter that he was years ago, and
that's proven to be true. So I'm I'm thrilled for him.
And by the way, I think he's going to be
a tremendous free agent of offseason. I think his his
marketplace is all of a sudden gotten to be a
(24:14):
lot more interesting because if you're going to compare and
he's not, all of a sudden get a catapult to
a Aaron Judge contract in one year, but if with
the uncertainty surrounding show A, and if you were to
look at Showy and say he's going to be a
d H and you're not sure about the pitchings versus Bellinger,
who is a Gold Glove level defender in center field
(24:37):
and potentially first base if you need him. So he's
a more versatile defender. He's not the hitter the show
he is in terms of the quite the same output,
but he's close and he's a much more versatile defender.
So what does that get you? I think it's going
to be a fascinating discussion to where there are probably
some teams, Doug, that would tell you that, with now
this uncertainty surrounding show A's arm, that they might rather
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actually have Bellinger than Showy, which is a remarkable statement,
but I think it's accurate based on the events of
this week.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
That's crazy, absolutely crazy. All right, get back to Lulu
and the kids. We appreciate spend some time away.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Thank you, Doug. I appreciate it. I thought I had
found a nice quiet place. But you know how kids are, man,
they just they find you. It's like the game, the
game will find you when you put in that one
defensive back off the bench for the first time in
the second quarter. The ball's coming in his direction.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Well, it's it's a kid you put in right field, like,
don't hit the ball right field, and that kid can't catch,
and sure enough that's where the ball goes.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
The game.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
The game will find you, The kids will find you.
It's always true, my friends.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
John Paul Morosi, father insider, sideline reporter, baseball Iceberg swordinaire,
thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 8 (25:46):
Thanks Doug, all the best, Thank you.
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what do you.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Got, Doug Denver Broncos receiver Jerry Judy gonna have an
MRI on his hamstring. He was carted off the field
during today's joint practice with the Los Angeles Rams. The
Arizona Cardinals trading safety and twenty twenty first round pick
Isaiah Simmons to the New York Giants. ESPN reported as
well that The Cardinals are now also trading offensive tackle
Josh Jones to the Houston Texans. The Seattle Seahawks officially
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the Washington Post reports Nationalist pitcher Steven Strasburg will announce
his retirement in early September. Strasburg number one overall pick
in two thousand nine, the World Series MVP and twenty
nineteen for the Nationals, but has not pitched since June
of last year due to injury. Right now, the Nationals
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holding on to a five to four lead against the Yankees.
In the bottom of the eighth inning, Aaron Judge his
fourth home run in two games. The Los Angeles Dodgers
have just resumed at Cleveland with a six to one
lead over the Guardians. In the top of the ninth inning,
a game in which Mookie Betts is five for five.
They are finishing off a game that was suspended from yesterday,
(27:31):
so they're still set to play yet another game. And
right now in Houston they are in the bottom of
the third inning. It's the Red Sox eleven the Astros. Nothing,
Doug back to you.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Thanks Eilo. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
This is going to be me ripping bad radio hosts
and people who truly don't understand the sports that they
think they understand. I'll give you an example, the San
Francisco forty nine ers. It looks like they'll probably get
it giveaway or cut Trey Lance. And what you get
is people going like.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, neither suck. Jarvin sucks. So what a bust?
Speaker 8 (28:12):
What like?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
And we have no ability to take a breath and go, okay,
well it was not a good pick.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
They're like, well they had to trade up.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, you're not getting the number three pick in the
draft unless you trade up. And I would point out
that Zach Wilson went number two. Zach Wilson is no
closer to being a starting quarterback than Trey Lances. He
was awful last year, awful, awful. They didn't even have
(28:45):
It's like, now there's Aaron Rodgers. They didn't even have
like viable dudes like anybody but him. Right, So the
first thing is it's not a perfect science. Even science,
by the way, is like, do you guys know what
a what's something a factually correct by science scientific data is?
(29:08):
You know it's ninety seven percent right above ninety seven percent,
because there just isn't one hundred There aren't things that
are just one hundredercent. Outside of the sun rising in
the east one hundred percent of the time setting in
the west one hundred percent of time, there's no like
one hundred percent. So even science is an exact science
scientifically speaking, and this is not an exact science.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
It's not close.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
What I find to be interesting is I have I
guess I have too much time in my hands. I watched
too many shows and listen to too many shows, and
you'll hear people ripping the niners, and my feeling for
it is quite the opposite. Despite the fact that they
use several picks to move up and draft. Trey Lance,
who has thrown what too had taken two hundred and
(29:52):
sixty two snaps as a quarterback in the NFL. Despite that,
they still feel like they should have won the NFC
Championship game. They still figured it out. And they're not
the only ones I mentioned Zach Wilson. We should also
point out, okay, that that year was the COVID year,
and like, what does that have to do with it?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Everything? You had one game?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
One game is all Trey Lance played one game to
evaluate him. You look at Zach Wilson. Why did they
miss on Zach Wilson? Well, at least a portion of
it could be you're evaluating him. Do you remember who
they played that year? Like the best team by you
played was Coastal Carolina. Coastal Carolina. I mean, like, let's
(30:46):
go through it, and that two of the best players
Jamar Chase didn't play football that year.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Trevor Lawrence wasn't great that year.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
He was the number one pick, Like, kind of go
through it right, Like, well, Justin Fields, I mean, just
is Justin Fields a great quarterback. I think Mac Jones
should have been the guy. I think Kyle Shanahan is.
You know, he's gonna win other arguments because that was
the guy that he wanted. But I mean like, let's
are we just being honest here and trying to figure
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out Travis Aten hadn't been great go through that year?
That was a all drafts are difficult. No one bats
a thousand. Alex Leatherwood went to the Raiders. Remember how
about a disasters. I think he just got picked up
by somebody in the league. Right, It was really really
difficult to draft that year. It's difficult to draft and
(31:43):
evaluate anyway. And when you'll know, it's not just that
you only have one game of Trey Lance. You couldn't
be on campus to you know, evaluate these guys. Everything
the whole world was on zoom and oh yeah, by
the way, while we can all admit the Niners screwed
it up, they still figreigured it out.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
The Jets screwed it up, and they were awful last year.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
And just by happens since they've been able to hire
his offensive coordinator because they're in the NAFC, they got
the Packers to trade them Aaron Rodgers, and it feels
like they'll be good, that the Niners are going to
be good regards.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
To who the quarterback is. But the people going like
Nanna booboo, the Niners are dumb, like, yeah, they missed, right,
they missed.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
The Broncos went out last year and gave Russell Wilson
a brand new contract and the fit was a little weird.
But ask anybody, did you think that would work? Like, yeah,
Russe Wilson's good and he was awful.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
He was awful.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
There is not a team that doesn't miss. There is
not a player that does miss. It's how you react
to that miss can you still figure it out? So
when you hear hack job radio guys or TV guys
act like the Niners don't know what they're doing because
they missed on Tree Lance.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
They missed on Tree Lance.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
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I do think there's a little something called complacency that
we have to be realistic about with the Chiefs. This
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He's awesome, or even if Pat Mahomes he's awesome, right,
And you know, I mean they have some I don't
(34:48):
think their schedule is crazy out of the gate. It's
like they have the Lions, and we love the Lions
because the Lions, you know, finished above five hundred last
year and beat the Packers last game in the season.
But do we really think the Lions are a championship
caliber team? Is especially in Kansas City, the answer is no.
But the Jaguars second the season. Remember the Jaguars kind
of had the Chiefs in the playoffs, or at least
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played them very competitively.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Then he hit the Bears.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Then they go to the Jets, to the Vikings, Broncos
at home, Charges at home, and then to the Broncos.
So some of this we just don't know in terms
of how good those teams are. We have no idea
and we don't know who's gonna be healthy. But it should
be pointed out that the Chiefs, well, now we've hit
the Pat Mahomes is making real money. We don't know
if Chris Jones is playing. I do think eventually he plays, so,
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but if we're honest with ourselves about the past couple
of years, we'd say, hey, they could be fairly complacent in.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
The regular season.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Right last year they opened up four and one.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
That helps. They went on a run at the end
of the year.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Could have lost that Chargers game, but the Chargers didn't
get screwed up down the red zone dominated Cardinals to
start the season, who made the playoffs previous year were
bad last year lost to Indy that ends up becoming
like the worst loss of the season in football. You know,
beat up on Tampa, beat the Raiders by a point.
Games were really close early and so I guess my
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question is, you know, this is not me saying chicken
little sky is falling, but I do realize that Pat
Mahomes has saved them so many times, and at times
he would save them because they had Tyreek Hill. You
still have Travis Kelcey, who seems like a cheat code.
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You still have an incredible coach, and maybe they're better coached.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
It's like one of the things.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
You look at with their coaching staff in I mean,
I've said this before.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
We all act like Eric b.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Enemy was some great assistant coach, you know, but the
fact is that all they did in Kansas City when
he left. When he left, they basically bumped up you know,
bumped up a guy who has been a head coach
before into being an offensive coordinator, you know, And I
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just think it's it's amazing, truly amazing what they've been
able to do. But at some point there does come
a complacency. There does come Hey, it's a copy of
a copy, doesn't there.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Isn't that fair?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I mean, I do wonder Andy Reid's is a head coach,
Matt Naggi is now the offensive coordinat of course, Naggy.
It is interesting we make a big deal about the enemy,
whereas Naggi was gonna take the enemy spot anyway. And
they have Steve Spagnola, who's good, but Spagnolo stuff sometimes
that runs cold Naggy stuff. I mean, it's it's the
same over and over again. I'm just fascinated by are
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they really you know, last year, by the time they
got to the end of the year, that wide receiving
corp wasn't great. Here's a question, Uh, let me ask
any of you guys, can you name any of the
top four wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
For the Kansasity Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Good question, Doug not knock counting, not counting Travis Kelt
because he's a tight end, correct, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, there's one more that people know his name because
it's kind of a unique name and he played somewhere else.
Uh No, Juju's not on I don't think Jujus on
their team anymore. Marcus Faldez scanting.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Ah with the Packers a right.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Like their starting wide receivers Orkadarius Tony, Marcus Valda, Scantling
and Sky Moore, you know, and I love and this
this kind of goes back to what I was saying
about the Niners is they drafted Clyde Edwards Hilaire in
the first round, Isaiah Pacheco in the seventh round last year.
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Isaiah Checko is the starter. But like, there's not there
are no wow guys outside of Travis Kelcey and Pat Mahomes. Now,
some of that is the magic of Mahomes. I mean,
he's incredible, and Andy Reid's a tremendous coach. Defensively, if
they don't have Chris Jones, that's a very different football team.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
And they're good, but they're not great.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I just I'm really interested to see if this is
a year in which the Chiefs every game becomes close,
every game they have to almost like the Seahawks with
Russell Wilson. He's got to win it for them, and
we've seen them more often than not be able to,
you know. So anyway, that's my one thought coming into
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the year, Like I go through all these teams and
it's like, I actually think the Giants, you know, part
of it was that NFC East they had such a
soft schedule, but I thought they've gotten better.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I think they're going to be really good this year.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
I think the Eagles feels like they might take a
step back, lose your coordinators, lose some guys, and harder schedule.
Cowboys feel like they're the same.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
We look at the AFC West and I believe the
Chargers have the best talent in the AFC West, but
they don't have the confidence of Mahomes or the confidence
of a head coach who's been there and done that before.
So I'd still pick the Chiefs to win the division.
But the Chiefs shouldn't win the division on paper, should not.
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And I know games aren't one on paper, they're one
inside television sets.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
That's a Kenny main line. Nobody got there.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
None of you guys laughed, Any guys even smile. You know,
I can get I can get Ramos to laugh and
smile at anything, but that one was actually a line
you're sus supposed to smile on.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
So you're saying they're just writing I always love this
when whenever they put like the top twelve or fifteen
high school teams or preseason stuff, it's always like the
same teams, but the people don't really look into the team.
They just go, well, they came in third last year,
so we'll put them third this year. That's kind of
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your theory about the Chiefs is that, well, they're so
good they have to be that they have to win
the AFC West. There'sn't really challenge, but you're saying there
is a challenge.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Oh, I think the Charge I mean, like, look, Charge
is always playing close Chargers talent wise is better. And
the reason I think it's better is, you know, they
haven't had to do what the Chiefs had to do
with Pat Mahomes contract yet. Now eventually they will when
Justin Herbert's contract goes live, and you know, Keenan Allen
will probably be somewhere else in a year, but they're
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not in that space yet, so they have that's a
crazy talented roster. Derwin James is among the ten best
football players.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
In the world.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Okay, he's that good when he's healthy. Joey Bosa is
one of the best pass rushers? Is he Chris Jones?
He's different? But whatever, you know, you kind of go
through like they have dudes and the Chiefs. I know
they won the Super Bowl. I was there, I watched
the whole thing, and it's my home. But and how
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many times has he been able to pull a rabbit
out of a you know what Jaguars game was a rabbit.
You know, the defense came up big against the Bengals.
They the Bengals were the better team for a good
portion of that game. And you don't have Tyreek Hill.
We'll see if they have Chris Jones. And you know,
they've kind of cycled through a lot of guys, a
lot of guys offensively. I just I mean, if he
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wins it this year, say wins again, You're like, man,
that is not a great supporting cast. It's a great
coaching staff and like a good overall team. But that's
show me the guys that you're going to write down
the history books is all time greats. I don't see
them there, and that that speaks volumes for Mahomes and
for Andy Reek.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yes, Sir John.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Ronos, I assume the one drawback that I've heard from
many people for the charges of probably the head coach.
Will Kellen Moore help that? Will he be that type
of offensive coordinator that can help open.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
I don't know. I don't know. I think, but I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I have no idea. We don't know anything until they
actually play football, right college football, especially because so many
guys are in new places. But I just I remember
watching the Chiefs last year in the Soup Bowl, and
obviously they had some injuries, and you know, you're working
through no name wide receivers and you're like, this is
not a great team or a great group like individual players. Now,
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