June 11, 2024 • 46 mins
On a Tuesday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug reacts to USA Basketball's explanation for why Caitlin Clark will not be a part of the Olympic team this summer.
Doug talks about the Los Angeles Lakers a day after Danny Hurley turned them down to remain at UConn, and Doug offers up what he thinks really happened.
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in and once again, the let's just I don't need
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to do the intro of what the show is going
to be about or whatever. This is really kind of
an amazing time. I want you to take a snapshot
and remember twenty twenty four, the month of June, because
I've said this throughout the year, and I mean it.
I don't think we'll ever be here again. I don't
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And the more time goes on, the more I believe
I'm proved right. And by here I mean that we
lead television shows, sports, television shows, news shows as well
with something about Caitlin Clark, something about the WNBA. And
you know I've said this in regards to other stories
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in the past that anytime you need to clarify remark, right,
the President would like to clarify the remarks that he
said yesterday, and then you have a spokesperson come out
of was what the President meant to say was right?
Anytime you have to clarify what a manager says, what
a coach says, what a player says, anytime you have
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to clarify it, it means the initial statement didn't land
anywhere near where people wanted it to land. Right. Anytime
you need to explain a joke, you know the joke
wasn't funny or you didn't tell it away that whoever
was listening could consume it and found it to be humorous,
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even if you could read it to the guy stand
next to you or your buddy, like, if the audience
doesn't find it funny, you can't explain away a joke.
You just kind of got to move on. And yet
the USA Basketball, which is led by USA Women's selection
Committee chair Jen Rizzotti. By the way, I can spot
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the lie in this very very simply. But she clarified
the criteria that the basketball committee went by and why
they didn't select Caitlin Clark, because this has become a
really really interesting discussion, right there is a portion of it.
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There is a portion of it which I really like.
But the problem with that portion of it is it's
not being discussed, honestly. I get to that in a second.
Here's what gen Rizotti said. Remember Generrizotti was a great
player at Yukon Yukon before playing professionally in I think
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it was the WNBA, but are very different teams back then.
And then she was a head coach in college at
Hartford I lived in Connecticut at the time and at
GW George Washington. So she says, here's the basketball criteria
we were given as a committee, and how do we
evaluate our players based on that? And when you base
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your decision on criteria, there were other players that were
harder to cut because they checked more boxes. Then sometimes
it comes down to positions play for coach Cheryl Reeve,
and then sometimes a vote. Rissotti added, it wasn't in
the purview of our committee to decide how many people
would watch or how many people would root for the US.
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It was in the purview to create the best team
we could for Cheryl. That's great, that's a great idea, right, Listen.
We just wanted no politics to create the best possible
team for Cheryl. Right. But again, like part of it is,
does anybody know who Cheryl Reeve is? Could you pick
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Cheryl Reeve out of a lineup? The answer is no.
Cheryl Reeve, by the way, is apparently the head coach
of the Minnesota Lynks. She's been a long time assistant
coach in the WNBA and since for the last fourteen years,
has been the head coach of the Link So her background,
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her background is in the WNBA. And obviously he's gotten
a chance to watch Caitlin Clark and evaluate Kate Clark,
and she's trying to build a team. And I get it.
You're a coach. Which you don't want is to build
a team where you gotta play this kid who's not
as good as the other kid more minutes. But when
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you're trying to build an entire team, you have to
find players that fit the aspects of a team. I'm
doing this. I'm actually building a team as we speak. Currently,
I have at least we've broadcast eight players on scholarship.
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We have three others that are committed, but until certain
things get worked out, we don't announce those commitments. Right,
So I have eleven and I have another commitment that
we have announced, but it doesn't count against our twelve
scholar or thirteen scholarships. So we have two more scholarships
to give. And what you have to figure is, okay,
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I can only play five players at once. I have
yet to see a team that can play more than
five players, and in a rotation you got eight or nine.
So if you have thirteen, you've got to build a team.
Where do you expect ten to compete? To play? One
probably will compete, And then what are those other three guys?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Do?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Do you leave spots open or do you fill them
with the idea in mind you're going to develop maybe
even red shirt players. That's the reality of it, because
you can't keep thirty. You can't play thirteen players. I
mean you can, but it's just becomes the turnstile and
nobody's happy. So I understand all of that, but a
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couple things one happy birthday to one of one of
the players on Team USA who just so happens to
be one of the great players in the history of
the sport, who just so happens to have been selected.
Her name is Diana Trossi. She's forty two today. By
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the way, where Dina Trosti go to school? She went
to Yukon. Jen Rizzotti was a great player. Do you
want to shoot to school? You cut? If there's a
player on this team and there's a couple others right
cole players By the way, Khalaia Cooper and Brittany Griner
okay are both on the Mercury. Okay. Nowfiicia Collier is
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on the links. She only has one player from her
own team on the links. But the idea, like Diana
Trassi got in because she's basically grandfathered in one of
the all time great players. Some people think greatest player ever.
I haven't watched who Win's Basketball enough. I know she
went for NCAA titles. I know she's won WNBA titles.
I know she's awesome. I have I don't have the
I don't have the bandwidth of the knowledge to argue
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back and forth and honestly, I don't care. But at
forty two years old, I think you can make the
case that she's probably not one of the twelve best
players in the WNBA. But there's a couple of things. One,
she's probably okay not playing a ton of minutes because
she's forty two years old. She can't play every minute. Secondly,
at that age, I guarantee she can stick a jump
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shot in any situation because she's had confidence, she's seen
it all that can she guard anybody? I don't know.
And then the third thing is she's been so good
for so long and done so much for USA basketball
that you're like, eh oh. And then there's this other part.
Do you think for one second, Jen Rizzotti is gonna
leave Diana Tarassi off the team? Do you know why?
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Because every time those Ukon women get together, she doesn't
want to be the one who left. You want to
be the one that left Bria Dan Tarassi off the team? Hello?
Because that's why it works. So we operate. And I
heard who is a Joi Taylor? Right? Joy Taylor talked
about the men's team and how well you know this
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caused the women's team to lose if they were to
take Cale. First of all, they're not losing and she's
not gonna be part of the reason that they'd be losing.
But I find it really interesting that no one seems
to point out that, For example, the twenty twenty one
Olympic men's basketball roster. Do you remember who was on
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that team? Any idea? I do? Kevin Durant was their
best player, right bam out of Bayo. Is he one
of the twelve best Americans? I know Jeremy Grant isn't.
And some of it was because not everybody wanted to go.
I understand Kevin Love was on the team. Keldon Johnson
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was on the team. Why was Kelvin Johnson the team? Oh,
that's because Greg Papovich is big with USA basketball, That's right, right,
I mean everyone that USA Basketball has always been pla
and this crap that it's like, oh, this Typelly just
wanted to select the best team possible to help Cheryl
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out with building her team. Why'd you take gent Dan Tarassi? Well,
you know she wanted all the time great players, but
is she currently one of the twelve best players? And
if you said, hey, it's because we want to build
a really good team. Part of building a really good
team is having really good energy and having two or
three players at the end of that bench are just
happy to be there. And I understand that gen Rizzotti
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can sit there and say it wasn't on her perview,
decide who's popular or not, what the TV ratings are not.
But what you're saying is you're under a rock. Okay.
The same reason that Diana Tarassi was selected out of
college she wasn't one of the twelve best players, then,
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is the same reason that you should select Caitlin Clark
because of her college accomplishments. She scored more points than
any woman to ever play college basketball. She also went
to two straight national championhi games. I'in like she's a loser,
and she did it surrounded by good players, but not
what they had at Yukon, be honest. And then oh yeah,
by the way, I did you ask her if she
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would be the twelfth twelfth woman? Of course not. But
the idea that, oh, we don't. We don't decide these
things based upon popularity. Okay, it's not like she has
a little following. Okay, This is you had the opportunity
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to include Taylor Swift at what's the concert series out
in the desert, not Kutchella, the country one stage coach.
You had a chance to put Taylor Swift at stagecoach,
and you decided not to do so because her songs
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aren't as good as Luke Comb's songs. Right, that's what
she did. You're like, what, hey, you know Taylor Swift,
she's not that great a singer. Excuse me, well, we're
not here because of popularity, Like she is a thing.
She has a chance to grow the sport to heights
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not previously possible. And then oh yeah, by the way,
did you think of the downside to it? Did you
think of the downside? Because there's this gigantic Caitlin Clark
following They're playing the Connecticut Son last night and I'm
sure I was, Sam was watching and in the fourth
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quarter she's not playing because she's in foul trouble, which
I mean last time I checked. By the way, she
has four, you're down twenty, they give you five. This is,
by the way, this is not my line. I didn't invented.
This is my old coach, Eddy Sutton. He played our
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best player, Adrian Peterson four foul in the first half,
We're playing at Baylor one year and he's like, you
get five, stop bowling, And you know what he did,
you get six. She was sitting with four. So they're
chanting we want Taitlin like she's a walk on on
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the end of the bench, but the whole arena is
chanting on the road. What is that? Forrest Gump said,
might not be a smart man Jedi, right, but I
do know that all right. She might not be the twelvelest,
she might not be perfect, but she's she can play.
She's got more points than any woman in the history
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college basketball. She's done amazing things for the sport. And
the downside is now, just like you've got swifties, you've
got Kaitlyn Clarkey's or whatever they're gonna think. And I
think they're right to think this, that enough of the
women are like, yeah, we don't want that around that
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they're not going to watch on purpose, So I women's
basketball can't help themselves. They want to be so viewed
as legitimate. On the other hand, it's like they want
anyone who made fun of women's basketball or didn't watch
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for twenty five years to admit that they were wrong
for not caring about something that they care about that
we didn't care about. And then when there's something that
we care about, one sham on us for not caring
for twenty five years, but two, yeah, we're not going
to give that to you because it's not as good
as you think it is. Dumb people do smart things.
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Smart people do dumb things by overthinking it. That's all
this is. You completely overthought it in an effort to
be legitimate. You delegitimize yourself in an effort to be popular.
You're making yourself less popular. I mean, what a load
of crap. Like somebody should ask gen Rozzotti, Jen, what
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would have happened had you not named the greatest Yukon
player ever at forty two years old to the lipic team.
What would happened? How would that have gone over? We
know the answer. We're not stupid, but we're made to
be treated as if we're stupid based upon these results.
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We they're just trying to find the best basketball team possible.
So to people who say, hey, you know, the men's
team is always the twelve best player, no, they're not.
Some of it because guys don't want to go, but
some of it is they gotta find guys that are
just happy to be there, and those last couple guys
are guys are just happy to be there, and they're
usually connected somehow with USA basketball, which is what should
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have happened here. So I just it's it's just embarrassing. Meanwhile,
here we are talking about Win's basketball again and we're
in the We're on June eleventh, So I guess they win,
but they keep turning people off and then instead of
making people tun two watching it.
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way tire buying should be. So there's more out of
the Lakers camp today as they search for their next
head coach, where Sham Sharania says, hey, you know jjritt,
I mean excuse me, uh Dan Hurley wasn't the top
candidate overall, right, which needs to people to believe. And
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I think there is some reality to the idea that
they were hot to trot on JJ Reddick and then
they started to have some second thoughts and then they
went after Danny Hurley. Danny Hurley took them on a dance,
didn't complete the dance and want to go home with them. Instead,
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he went back to Yukon for less money. Right, that's about.
And now people say how the Lakers have egg on
their faces, and I think they do. I'll offer up
what I think is much closer to the reality. Okay,
much closer to the reality. First thing is this, Okay,
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the first thing is this. I want anyone who you
read that tweets or says, well, I can't believe they
fired Darvin Ham. Okay if and I've seen several people say, well,
the reason that the Laker's job isn't viewed as a
great job is because they fired Darvin Ham just a
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year removed from the Western Conference finals. Darvin Ham is
viewed in the NBA by people outside the Lakers and
inside the Lakers as a below average at best head coach.
He was utterly and completely unimpressive. In fact, I'll sell
it to you this way. Not only was he not
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an X and O guy and he was a play
hard guy, but he was underwhelming in terms of his
preparation for well his staff meetings. He was late to
his own staff meetings, and there wasn't much to his
preseason training camps in terms of offensive install It was
all sort of generalities. And it's not a miracle. I mean, like, look,
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if Memphis had their full bow to players, they probably
don't get out of the first round. They did beat
the Golden State Warriors. But the idea that he was
done wrong. There isn't anyone I know in the NBA
is like man, whereas Frank Vogel. They should probably rehire
Frank Vogel. And yes, Frank Vogel got fired a year
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later after only coach for a year with the Sons.
That was a debuckle of a season, but a lot
of it was but widely respected in the NBA. Just
not a good fit is there is not a good
fit and not a good coach. So the first thing
is just anyone who says with Darvin Ham, like, dude,
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Darvin Ham's a bad coach. Next. Hey, second part, I'm
gonna offer you up an alternative history that I think
is more likely than not an accurate one. And I
don't have sources that tell me it. But the source
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I have is my own brain because I know a
lot of the players and the way these things work.
You ready for it? Okay? So they fired Darvin Ham
and they start compiling a list of who do we
want to hire? Right, it's not an easy job. Traditionally,
the Lakers don't pay a ton of money, don't offer
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up a lot of years. And I'm sure at some
point in time they said, what about Danny Hurley. Danny
Hurley be great? Danny Hurley won back to back titles
at Ucott and so they probably reached out to say,
where's Danny Hurley with this deal? And remember he had
just turned down the University of Kentucky and was offered,
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we were told a big contract extension. So you go
through the early lists of things and like, who would
you who do you really want? Man? I love to
have Danny Hurley. He's awesome, awesome, and then they were
told he wasn't available. Then, when you look back at
last week shortly before the Danny Hurley news broke. The
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coach that was in for the last interview before the
news broke was James Barrego. Now, James Rego is probably
going to be the head coach of the Cabs, right.
James Barrego has the same agent as Danny Hurley. His
name is Bret Brett. Just I know Brett because he
used to rep me when I was a CIA guy.
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He since left CIA. He's maybe the most powerful basketball
coaching agent in the country US. Most of it used
to be with college basketball, but now it's in the
NBA as well. So my guess is this is a
fairly educated guess is that when the Barrego thing didn't
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feel like it would make JJ, they're like, how do
we build a staff? Remember there was actually talk and
rumors out there, printed rumors by I think and I
know Scham's that Brego. They talked about him being the
lead assistant. So you bring Brego in, You're like, hey,
what about being the assistant. He's like, h I'd rather
be the head coach. I don't want to be the assistant.
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They were likely struggling to find a staff to work
with JJ Reddick. So when you're struggling to find the staff.
You start having second thoughts, You circle back and you
just talk to James Brego's agent and he says, you know,
Danny Hurley's contract has not been signed. It's not done.
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Matter of fact, it's a little light of the money
he expected. So then Danny Hurley becomes the primary target.
They're going to fly him out to Los Angeles. And
if you remember, before that Friday meeting there was the
story of expectations being one hundred million dollar contract. You
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do know that the Lakers aren't the only ones that
get the leak stories. So too does Danny Hurley in
his camp. And as I believe Jason Stewart has pointed out, Jason,
there's only one book that Adrian war Zanowski has written.
And when Woj does his appearances from his home, didn't
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she tell me that book is behind him.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
It's called The Miracle of Saint Anthony.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Miracle Saint Anthony. That's a book written by Woch, the
only book he's written about Bob Hurley Senior, the Hall
of Fame head coach and father of Danny Hurley. So
when the story comes out that the expectations are a
hundred million dollar deal.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
That is the if you want to get this done,
if you want Danny Hurley to be your next head coach,
there's the number. And they landed on seventy million. Now
seventy million compared to the fifty million that he ended
up signing with with Yukon is substantial money. But he
told you through sources a hundred million was the number
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in thirty million dollars short. And so now they're left
with JJ Breddick, JJ Reddick feeling like he's more than
just the second choice, he's like the last possible choice.
And they got all questions about it. The Lakers extended
themselves to a level that they never have for a coach,
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especially when now that's never coached in the NBA. And
oh yeah, by the way, he turned them down because
they still came in light and this perception that they
weren't in on Danny Hurley all along. They're just simply
lying about it, Dan Byer, what do you think? What
do you think of my hypotheses?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Sorry, Doug, can you repeat that for I'm sorry?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, just my hypotheses is that they did, in fact,
we did have interest in Danny Hurley initially only at
that time he was involved with Kentucky. He turned down Kentucky.
They thought he had a contract extension, they thought it
was done, and then Brego and him have the same agent.
When the Brego thing wasn't going to be for a
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head coach, his agent very likely said, hey, you know,
Danny Hurley's Deal's not done. So did Danny use it
for leverage? Sure? But would he have taken it if
it was one hundred million dollars? Probably because one hundred
million dollars versus fifty million dollars that's twice as much money.
Of Course, you take that deal. Everybody takes that deal
seventy million dollars Like, Yeah, I don't know. I'm a
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Jersey guy. I'm an East Coast guy. The Knicks are
going to be open in a couple of years. I
could go for the three pt. So did leverage become
a part of it? Yes? Was it a leverage play?
I don't think so. If it was one hundred million dollars, I.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Think it was a majority was was based on leverage.
And it's from what you were saying in terms of, yeah,
if they would have given me one hundred million dollars,
that would have been the you know, their head coach,
which would have doubled what we expect him to get
at Yukon so to So even in that where I
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don't know how realistic it would be that the Lakers
would give him that amount. I know they're comparing average
annual salaries to other NBA head coaches, and the Lakers
probably should have topped, you know, Monty Williams deal. But
it just seems to me of if you're not going
to coach the Lakers now, when are you gonna do it?
Like are they better in five years?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I don't know. No, I don't think. I don't think
the Lakers think comes along again. So I don't I
got it. And I I asked my son last night
he was watching. He's like, he turned down the Lakers
and seventy million dollars? Is he crazy? I was like,
I guess it's like that's dumb. They're never gonna ask
him again. And I agree, and he's, you know, he's
he's fifteen year old kid. But I agree. I mean,
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I think everybody thinks, well the Knicks should. Yeah, there's
no there's no telling what happens with those jobs. I mean,
really that's why I took my job, you know, like
I didn't get it last year. I didn't think it
was coming back around. It's a great opportunity, a great
job go. Obviously the zeros are there's fewer. There's a
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lot of other stuff, but everybody has their reasons or
excuses or whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It is funny that the Knicks finally have success in
a coach that has stabilized the organization, and now we're
just wondering when they're going to move on so Danny
Hurley can take over.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Well, it's also the yeah they have success that people
are like, well, he wears out their players, he coaches
them too hard. It's like your people are never happy. Like,
what do you want him to do? You know, what
do you want him to do? J S. What do
you think of my hypothesies? No?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I think it has a lot of truth to it.
And what your hypothesis does is it directly contradicts this one.
Want remember when woj broke the news was on the
sixth of June. Was that last Thursday? Among his tweets
disclosing that the Lakers have zero did on Danny Hurley,
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he says Hurley's been at the forefront of the Lakers
search from the beginning of the process. Now, like most things,
I'm less interested about the details on these than how
it's covered. So the cold war between Woje and Chalms
is interesting. Chams went on his platform today and said
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that Hurley was not at the forefront of their search
from the beginning. This was a fairly recent process. I
find that interesting because Woje is all about reputation. Woge
is the top of the business, and I don't know
why he would exaggerate that or put that in there
if it wasn't true, if not to just help out
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Danny Hurley. And that's kind of the curious talking about those.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Sam Moo, do you think.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
I definitely think that Danny Hurley is benefits from all
of this. You know, he comes out of this, uh
even more above it all. And by the way, if
he's coaching the Knicks, Danny Hurley's coaching, he also coaches
guys pretty hard, doesn't he. I mean he I saw
a clip of him being like, these guys run, they
run everywhere. I know, I don't know, so, I mean,
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if if Tom, if Bibbs or Tibbs, how are you.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
No I'm I'm with I'm with I'm with Dan. Though, Dan,
it's like, you know, we're we finally got a Knicks
coach who's finally got them competitor. Yeah, and now you're like, yea,
let's get rid of it, let's get Danny.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Oh yeah, No, I think that they're Yeah, this is
the most the Knicks have had a long time.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
But I also think that and and also the powers
that be Leon Rose that those aren't his people. There
would have to be a regime change, Like, look, I
I just think he didn't think it was the deal
was right, and I would guess there's a lot of
other parts to the Lakers that I think people are
starting to realize, Like Rob Polinka doesn't have an assistant GM.
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You know that they'll hire a cat, they have a
cap consultant, but that stuff sometimes. So you got one
guy who's not really he didn't come up through the
GM rank, so he doesn't have this depth of Man,
I've done this for years and he has been the
GM for a good amount it almost a decade, like
a decade now, right, but it's it's just a very
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different shot. Basically him and Kurt Rambis and then Kurt
Rambas's wife and making the decisions like that's it. It's
so weird in comparison to how other organizations are run.
And I don't know, it's quite obviously not a well
run deal. And I think part of it is they
try and keep it lean, but sometimes you try and
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keep it too lean and it ends up biting in
the in the backside. It's really really interesting though, how
you know. I think our view of the Lakers and
the actual Lakers are two different things, and and they
have a reputation of being cheap with everybody outside the players.
Seventy million isn't cheap, but he told you through that
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other tweet, one hundred million dollars was the number. Here's
sham Sharania summing up the coaching search.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
He met with JJ Reddick, once he met with James
Brigo a separate time solo, and then James Brago came
into the facility, met with everyone, met with ownership, and
then they last week on Wednesday, turned their attention. I'm
told to Dan Hurley and he was not the number
one candidate, the number one guy to go.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Pursue from the start, from the beginning. Yeah, so a
little bit of is Shams and Woje in a peeing match, right, No,
he wasn't the number one. I think it's very possible
that in a brainstorming session somebody said, hey, what about
Danny Hurley and they made a call and they're like, yeah,
(31:54):
he's he's got a new deal coming, and when they
found out the deal hadn't made yet, they tried to go,
which actually is really really smart. The problem is that
if you don't get it and you tick off all
the other potential coaches, especially a JJ Reddick. I still
think JJ takes it by the way, like it's not
like the head coaching jobs are just coming JJ's way,
(32:16):
you know, on a he gets chance to be Lakers,
I just don't think they're going to go. I think
both sides are just cool on each other. You know,
you go on dates with the people and you're like,
you know, that first date wasn't as good as I thought.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
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Speaker 1 (32:36):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I love that Gen Rizzotti,
Like no one asked Gen Rozzotti like, hmm, I don't know.
You got another Yukon chick who is forty two years old.
She deserved to be on the team. Curious by the way.
(33:01):
She didn't play very well? Did she last night? There?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Iowa, Sam, No, she got hat on a several moments.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yep, look great, and honestly, I think she probably needs
the physical break right. It's just it's been a lot.
There's no there's been no letdown, no slowdown, but didn't
play particularly well and that team is going nowhere fast.
John Middlcoff in a moment, I saw this story and
I thought it'd be interesting. Robert Salah talked about why
(33:31):
Aaron Rodgers wasn't at OTA's today. Take a listen.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
Aaron and I spoke before OTIA started. He's been very
good in communication. He's been here the entire time. It's inexcused,
but he had an event that was very important to him,
which he communicated. He came through yesterday, he had his physical,
he did the multimedia day or the media day and
all that stuff. But like I said, he had something
that was very important to him. And if it's important
(33:56):
to him, it's important to us.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
It's not because it's in excuse apps, right, So what
do we think this absence is? I mean, we can
have some fun with that one. What do you think,
Jase do If you had to guess, what would the
absence be for Aaron Rodgers? What would the reason something
he had to go to?
Speaker 4 (34:19):
I personally, I think that he is going to a
convention for doing your own research? Come on, yeah, it's
the doing your own research convention. I think they have
it in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
They have lots of things in Vegas. It's very very
possible that could be slightly off strip right. Maybe that's
what's going to replace the Fountain Blue or the Fount
Blues in Trouble. Maybe that's that's the way to get
it back going is to is to make it the
home for people doing their own research. Let's welcome in
(34:52):
John Middelkoff. He of course has the Thread Out podcast. John,
what do you think of what do you think Aaron
Rodgers is doing? What event could be so important to
him that he could miss an excuse fashion I'm.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
Going to AOC fundraiser.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Okay, possible, It's possible.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
New York. You know he's already he's right around there,
you know, supporting the cause.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
What do you think of Caitlin Clark not being on
the national team.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (35:21):
Like, I can't pretend to break down the strengths and
weaknesses of the roster, but my overall tak my overall
take was this. The people that have been running the
WNDA for however, what two and a half decades, have
never been tapped with making any money. Right in your job,
(35:43):
in my job, if you don't make money, you go under.
But they've been subsized by the NBA. And I look
at it a lot like the government. The government doesn't
operate like a lot of companies do because they never
have to worry about going under so financially, it's why
you could have issues and like whatever, it doesn't matter.
And you look at the WNBA, like from a marketing standpoint,
(36:06):
it's obviously a no brainer. You know, the NBA operates
with with the NBA team where they factor in obviously
the best team. But there's a business element of it.
The moment, any player of any recognition, no matter how
old they are Lebron at forty four, once on the team,
Steph Curry, they know that matters for Jersey sales. And
(36:29):
I just I'm not shocked. I'm just I'm not shocked
to the WNBA they keep and the people at large
and women's basketball keep pushing back against her. And listen,
I've sait over and over, I've never paid attention to
women's basketball time maybe the Final four or whatever until now,
and it is incumbent on her now for the next
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like five years, like part of Bryce Harper or Tiger
Woods or all these people when they first show up
and everyone's taking shot or Lebron then you've got to
answer the bell. So it's like, it's not like she
you know, she's got a long way to go. But
to me, it is a simple one in this notion,
I'm like, what if she was on the bench and
the fan ry, but like, who cares? Shut up? Just
put her on the team.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
So not that hard.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
It's it's a it was a very but it's but
also it gets back to how could anyone be shocked?
I go seen this coming from a mile away, fair point,
fair point.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
He's John Metalcffee joins on the Doug Otutlib Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. What are your experts, Let's go
back to Aaron Rodgers. What are your expectations of the Jets.
Speaker 8 (37:31):
Well overall, I mean, whenever this and I'm sure it is.
I bet the Jets are very hesitant to leak it
out because then it's clear that they leaked it out
against them. It's probably some sort of if I truly
had to guess ayahuasca darkness in the wilderness, something like that,
don't you think.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
No, I think I think it's it's got to be something.
He was there yesterday. He made sure to point out
he was there yesterday, So it's something that I would
say it's in close proximity. I don't know what it is,
but yeah, I don't think it's I don't think it's
Ayahuaska or anything like that.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
Yeah, I don't mean he's going to do ayahuasca. I
I'm just using that symbolically to like, I think it's
probably some sort of mental growth thing would be my guess.
I also don't think, like to me, Lamar never showing
up the old off season is much bigger deal than
Aaron going, hey, listen, guys, I'm forty. I had this
thing I was going to like whatever. I don't think
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it's that big of a deal topically a big headline,
but he's been there the entire time. I don't think
it's that where you could argue that when the season ended,
Hassan Reddick, who has been an Eagle star pass rushers, like, guys,
I want a new contract. They're like, okay, think it's ray.
And when you trade for a guy that wants to
(38:47):
do contract in football, like if you just trade it
for Brandon a Uk right now, do you think he'd
just be happy, you know, day one of training camp
if the new team doesn't extend him like that problem
like that, That's just that was bizarre, Like he's nowhere
to be found, Like ultimately Aaron Rodgers, they want to
train and everything's fine. They just traded for a path
rusher who the Eagles and how he was like, okay,
(39:10):
you're just going to take our problem for a third rounder? Well,
are you going to extend them? And they never sended them.
And now Robert Salad said, like last week, they haven't
even talked to him.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, it's it's a weird one. But what about the team.
Did they fix the offensive line issues?
Speaker 8 (39:26):
I mean, they're just very dependent on some older players
that have some injury history. I give him credit for
taking an offensive lineman in the first round. I think
a lot of us thought, and I talked to a
lot of people in the NFL, and again, sometimes the
NFL can think a lot like us on the outside,
that they were going to go with bowers or an
offensive weapon, and they went with their guns as an
(39:46):
offensive lineman. Who if those guys are healthy, might not
even start, but they're definitely improved. He definitely have to
feel a lot better. But I think their whole team,
or a lot of the guys they've signed, including Aaron,
you the health risk for them, is it fair to say,
is for any team that has a chance to be competitive.
(40:07):
It feels like it's the highest in the league. I mean,
Mike Williams, Tyron Smith, now Aaron with his achilles. It's
those guys are good. They're trying to be fine, right that.
If I told you right now that those three guys
played ninety of the games like they'll probably be in
pretty good shape.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
It's a big ift, though, uh, the biggest. I mean,
it's hard enough to stay healthy when you're young, let
alone when you're old.
Speaker 8 (40:31):
And Mike, Mike Williams, I mean, I don't know who
doesn't like him. They watches them play high character. Guys,
he's got a roof for he gets hurt a lot.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
He was always he was always hurt when he even
when he's in his prime. Now he's coming off a
major injury, and I would say he's not in his prime.
But so it'll be interesting to see. But you know,
there are certain organizations that feel like they got to
roll the dice on guys instead of developing their young
guys the way for example, the Chiefs are developing.
Speaker 8 (40:57):
You could you could argue the way they have to play.
Remember the Floor's first year with them, Aaron wasn't quite
I mean, he wasn't even close to what he became.
The next two years when he's an MVP, they kind
of just dumbed it down a little bit. And this
defense on the Jets is better now, the AFC is
better than the NFC. But maybe they don't need him
to be super human if their defense, again, it's incumbent
(41:18):
on the defense to be top five is in the
league because last year, once he goes down, it's just
hard for defensive players. When he started looking at the
quarterback like this is a joke. So even you could
argue even if Aaron Rodgers now is the ten best
quarterback in the NFL if he doesn't turn the ball over,
which he doesn't, and they play good defense, you run
the ball. But you could argue the big question mark
(41:40):
at the opfensive coordinator is pretty clearly the floors better
than Rogers.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Guy there and pack it slightly, just a little bit,
a little little smidge a little smidge better. I would
say that's the problems.
Speaker 8 (41:54):
That's the problem. I mean, anytime you hire the coordinator
thing and what are they supposed to do? I mean,
Aaron on him. But it's like even Lebron want to
Russell Westbrook. Sometimes you just you have these rose colored
glasses and it's like this, this is not gonna work.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Mike Tomlin three year extension. This is coming off a
ten and seven year but one in which they actually
gave up more points than they scored. Is this the
right call for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 8 (42:19):
I just think it's just it's just their mo I mean,
they can't even help themselves. They're just like, we're just
we're never going to get rid of a coach, like
the Eagles got rid of Andy Reid. And I got
news for you, Tomas, even I know he won a
Super bowler on his career, he's never been as good
as Andy Reid. So I just I think they are
very It's it's the rooty way they refuse to change.
(42:42):
I said last year. I love Mike Thomas. I mean
he's I think he's a really good coach. If he
would have been a free agent, been easily the number
one guy on the market, and he would have got
a job immediately, some teams might have fire their coach
to hire. But like, isn't there time. Isn't the old
adage like in kind of basketball and the ball is
like it only goes like what Belichick did twenty five years?
(43:04):
Is really even Andy fourteen years in Philly? Hasn't that
kind of runs? Course? I just I just don't expect
to see anything different this year. Hell I already think
and I don't even like justin Field that much as
a player. Just put justin Field out there, see what
he got.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
As as the quarterback, what is a running back wider quarterback?
Speaker 8 (43:25):
Well, he hybrid kickoff return man quarterback?
Speaker 1 (43:31):
What do you think? Say that again, what do you
think kickoff returns look like this year? Anyway?
Speaker 8 (43:37):
I actually was watching some clips. I think it's gonna
be pretty sweet. I've watched a lot of just coaches
press conferences during OTA's kind of a loser that way,
and they're all like kind of getting juice up. I
think at first, you know, the natural reaction to any
human in any industry is pushed back on a big change.
But I think the more they've looked at it, it's
got a chance to kind of put your own spin
(43:58):
on it. We're going to get a lot more or
explosive place, you know. And I think we're also going
to see a big diversity of different people returning. I mean,
some people have like true returners, but I think we're
gonna see a lot in tight games. You know, in
a big game, if you're playing a division rival or
a conference rival, where you're like Deebo saming to go
(44:18):
back their return you know, ta Kwon Barkley, go back
there and return this one because you're going to take
a hit or you're not gonna you're gonna take a tackle,
no different than you would as you would as a
as a runner, like Alvin Kamara hit back. It's it's
seventeen seventeen, we're both four and four. We're playing in
the Atlanta Falcons is a huge game, and I think
(44:39):
you're less hesitant because now really the big molly wop
hit shop because we didn't. I think only a little
over twenty percent of kickoffs were return so that that
play had become almost no one void. Now I think
we're just going to see a lot of action because
there's severe penalty for kicking it out of bounds, even
kicking it way through the end zone, so it is
(45:04):
promoting kicking it in that little kickoff zone, and again
the defense only gets the five yard head start on
the offensive blockers. I think it's gonna be fascinating. You know,
our guys that might not have made the team now
make the team because they can play a role even
more consistently on special teams, so that bottom half of
your roster. It kind of might open up more competition
(45:27):
in training camp where most of the good teams they
really only have a couple of spots. I wonder if
that number on you know, the top ten teams in
the NFL goes from like two to three true open
spots in training camp to maybe six seven, which is
definitely a cool aspect if you're in the front office
or a coaching staff. It just adds the more intrigue.
I think definitely preseason games now mostly suck because the mcveighlification,
(45:53):
and I don't blame them, and everyone kind of fallows suit. Besides,
like Andy, I think we're all going to be paying
attention with that play happen right on a preseason game.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah, no question, I can't wait. I'm I'm like you,
I'm actually quietly looking forward to it, wondering what it's
actually gonna look like.
Speaker 8 (46:08):
Well like all of a sudden Debo or Saquon or
a guy like that back there or still coaches are
going to be hesitant to like hurt a main offensive player.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I think initially we will not, but I think if
they see the possibility and in rare situations, yeah, then
I think by mid season we will. It'll be guys
maybe last year their contract, or guys that have major
contracts that have been signed so they're good for a
couple of years. I think guys in the middle will
you won't use He's John mittl Koff three and out
(46:39):
as the podcast, Going Low as the golf podcast. He's
the best, Johnny, Thanks so much.
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to do the intro of what the show is going
to be about or whatever. This is really kind of
an amazing time. I want you to take a snapshot
and remember twenty twenty four, the month of June, because
I've said this throughout the year, and I mean it.
I don't think we'll ever be here again. I don't
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And the more time goes on, the more I believe
I'm proved right. And by here I mean that we
lead television shows, sports, television shows, news shows as well
with something about Caitlin Clark, something about the WNBA. And
you know I've said this in regards to other stories
(01:42):
in the past that anytime you need to clarify remark, right,
the President would like to clarify the remarks that he
said yesterday, and then you have a spokesperson come out
of was what the President meant to say was right?
Anytime you have to clarify what a manager says, what
a coach says, what a player says, anytime you have
(02:04):
to clarify it, it means the initial statement didn't land
anywhere near where people wanted it to land. Right. Anytime
you need to explain a joke, you know the joke
wasn't funny or you didn't tell it away that whoever
was listening could consume it and found it to be humorous,
(02:26):
even if you could read it to the guy stand
next to you or your buddy, like, if the audience
doesn't find it funny, you can't explain away a joke.
You just kind of got to move on. And yet
the USA Basketball, which is led by USA Women's selection
Committee chair Jen Rizzotti. By the way, I can spot
(02:46):
the lie in this very very simply. But she clarified
the criteria that the basketball committee went by and why
they didn't select Caitlin Clark, because this has become a
really really interesting discussion, right there is a portion of it.
(03:06):
There is a portion of it which I really like.
But the problem with that portion of it is it's
not being discussed, honestly. I get to that in a second.
Here's what gen Rizotti said. Remember Generrizotti was a great
player at Yukon Yukon before playing professionally in I think
(03:31):
it was the WNBA, but are very different teams back then.
And then she was a head coach in college at
Hartford I lived in Connecticut at the time and at
GW George Washington. So she says, here's the basketball criteria
we were given as a committee, and how do we
evaluate our players based on that? And when you base
(03:52):
your decision on criteria, there were other players that were
harder to cut because they checked more boxes. Then sometimes
it comes down to positions play for coach Cheryl Reeve,
and then sometimes a vote. Rissotti added, it wasn't in
the purview of our committee to decide how many people
would watch or how many people would root for the US.
(04:13):
It was in the purview to create the best team
we could for Cheryl. That's great, that's a great idea, right, Listen.
We just wanted no politics to create the best possible
team for Cheryl. Right. But again, like part of it is,
does anybody know who Cheryl Reeve is? Could you pick
(04:33):
Cheryl Reeve out of a lineup? The answer is no.
Cheryl Reeve, by the way, is apparently the head coach
of the Minnesota Lynks. She's been a long time assistant
coach in the WNBA and since for the last fourteen years,
has been the head coach of the Link So her background,
(04:54):
her background is in the WNBA. And obviously he's gotten
a chance to watch Caitlin Clark and evaluate Kate Clark,
and she's trying to build a team. And I get it.
You're a coach. Which you don't want is to build
a team where you gotta play this kid who's not
as good as the other kid more minutes. But when
(05:14):
you're trying to build an entire team, you have to
find players that fit the aspects of a team. I'm
doing this. I'm actually building a team as we speak. Currently,
I have at least we've broadcast eight players on scholarship.
(05:39):
We have three others that are committed, but until certain
things get worked out, we don't announce those commitments. Right,
So I have eleven and I have another commitment that
we have announced, but it doesn't count against our twelve
scholar or thirteen scholarships. So we have two more scholarships
to give. And what you have to figure is, okay,
(06:03):
I can only play five players at once. I have
yet to see a team that can play more than
five players, and in a rotation you got eight or nine.
So if you have thirteen, you've got to build a team.
Where do you expect ten to compete? To play? One
probably will compete, And then what are those other three guys?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Do?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Do you leave spots open or do you fill them
with the idea in mind you're going to develop maybe
even red shirt players. That's the reality of it, because
you can't keep thirty. You can't play thirteen players. I
mean you can, but it's just becomes the turnstile and
nobody's happy. So I understand all of that, but a
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couple things one happy birthday to one of one of
the players on Team USA who just so happens to
be one of the great players in the history of
the sport, who just so happens to have been selected.
Her name is Diana Trossi. She's forty two today. By
(07:08):
the way, where Dina Trosti go to school? She went
to Yukon. Jen Rizzotti was a great player. Do you
want to shoot to school? You cut? If there's a
player on this team and there's a couple others right
cole players By the way, Khalaia Cooper and Brittany Griner
okay are both on the Mercury. Okay. Nowfiicia Collier is
(07:33):
on the links. She only has one player from her
own team on the links. But the idea, like Diana
Trassi got in because she's basically grandfathered in one of
the all time great players. Some people think greatest player ever.
I haven't watched who Win's Basketball enough. I know she
went for NCAA titles. I know she's won WNBA titles.
I know she's awesome. I have I don't have the
I don't have the bandwidth of the knowledge to argue
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back and forth and honestly, I don't care. But at
forty two years old, I think you can make the
case that she's probably not one of the twelve best
players in the WNBA. But there's a couple of things. One,
she's probably okay not playing a ton of minutes because
she's forty two years old. She can't play every minute. Secondly,
at that age, I guarantee she can stick a jump
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shot in any situation because she's had confidence, she's seen
it all that can she guard anybody? I don't know.
And then the third thing is she's been so good
for so long and done so much for USA basketball
that you're like, eh oh. And then there's this other part.
Do you think for one second, Jen Rizzotti is gonna
leave Diana Tarassi off the team? Do you know why?
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Because every time those Ukon women get together, she doesn't
want to be the one who left. You want to
be the one that left Bria Dan Tarassi off the team? Hello?
Because that's why it works. So we operate. And I
heard who is a Joi Taylor? Right? Joy Taylor talked
about the men's team and how well you know this
(09:00):
caused the women's team to lose if they were to
take Cale. First of all, they're not losing and she's
not gonna be part of the reason that they'd be losing.
But I find it really interesting that no one seems
to point out that, For example, the twenty twenty one
Olympic men's basketball roster. Do you remember who was on
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that team? Any idea? I do? Kevin Durant was their
best player, right bam out of Bayo. Is he one
of the twelve best Americans? I know Jeremy Grant isn't.
And some of it was because not everybody wanted to go.
I understand Kevin Love was on the team. Keldon Johnson
(09:46):
was on the team. Why was Kelvin Johnson the team? Oh,
that's because Greg Papovich is big with USA basketball, That's right, right,
I mean everyone that USA Basketball has always been pla
and this crap that it's like, oh, this Typelly just
wanted to select the best team possible to help Cheryl
(10:06):
out with building her team. Why'd you take gent Dan Tarassi? Well,
you know she wanted all the time great players, but
is she currently one of the twelve best players? And
if you said, hey, it's because we want to build
a really good team. Part of building a really good
team is having really good energy and having two or
three players at the end of that bench are just
happy to be there. And I understand that gen Rizzotti
(10:28):
can sit there and say it wasn't on her perview,
decide who's popular or not, what the TV ratings are not.
But what you're saying is you're under a rock. Okay.
The same reason that Diana Tarassi was selected out of
college she wasn't one of the twelve best players, then,
(10:49):
is the same reason that you should select Caitlin Clark
because of her college accomplishments. She scored more points than
any woman to ever play college basketball. She also went
to two straight national championhi games. I'in like she's a loser,
and she did it surrounded by good players, but not
what they had at Yukon, be honest. And then oh yeah,
by the way, I did you ask her if she
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would be the twelfth twelfth woman? Of course not. But
the idea that, oh, we don't. We don't decide these
things based upon popularity. Okay, it's not like she has
a little following. Okay, This is you had the opportunity
(11:31):
to include Taylor Swift at what's the concert series out
in the desert, not Kutchella, the country one stage coach.
You had a chance to put Taylor Swift at stagecoach,
and you decided not to do so because her songs
(11:53):
aren't as good as Luke Comb's songs. Right, that's what
she did. You're like, what, hey, you know Taylor Swift,
she's not that great a singer. Excuse me, well, we're
not here because of popularity, Like she is a thing.
She has a chance to grow the sport to heights
(12:15):
not previously possible. And then oh yeah, by the way,
did you think of the downside to it? Did you
think of the downside? Because there's this gigantic Caitlin Clark
following They're playing the Connecticut Son last night and I'm
sure I was, Sam was watching and in the fourth
(12:37):
quarter she's not playing because she's in foul trouble, which
I mean last time I checked. By the way, she
has four, you're down twenty, they give you five. This is,
by the way, this is not my line. I didn't invented.
This is my old coach, Eddy Sutton. He played our
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best player, Adrian Peterson four foul in the first half,
We're playing at Baylor one year and he's like, you
get five, stop bowling, And you know what he did,
you get six. She was sitting with four. So they're
chanting we want Taitlin like she's a walk on on
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the end of the bench, but the whole arena is
chanting on the road. What is that? Forrest Gump said,
might not be a smart man Jedi, right, but I
do know that all right. She might not be the twelvelest,
she might not be perfect, but she's she can play.
She's got more points than any woman in the history
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college basketball. She's done amazing things for the sport. And
the downside is now, just like you've got swifties, you've
got Kaitlyn Clarkey's or whatever they're gonna think. And I
think they're right to think this, that enough of the
women are like, yeah, we don't want that around that
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they're not going to watch on purpose, So I women's
basketball can't help themselves. They want to be so viewed
as legitimate. On the other hand, it's like they want
anyone who made fun of women's basketball or didn't watch
(14:24):
for twenty five years to admit that they were wrong
for not caring about something that they care about that
we didn't care about. And then when there's something that
we care about, one sham on us for not caring
for twenty five years, but two, yeah, we're not going
to give that to you because it's not as good
as you think it is. Dumb people do smart things.
(14:47):
Smart people do dumb things by overthinking it. That's all
this is. You completely overthought it in an effort to
be legitimate. You delegitimize yourself in an effort to be popular.
You're making yourself less popular. I mean, what a load
of crap. Like somebody should ask gen Rozzotti, Jen, what
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would have happened had you not named the greatest Yukon
player ever at forty two years old to the lipic team.
What would happened? How would that have gone over? We
know the answer. We're not stupid, but we're made to
be treated as if we're stupid based upon these results.
(15:31):
We they're just trying to find the best basketball team possible.
So to people who say, hey, you know, the men's
team is always the twelve best player, no, they're not.
Some of it because guys don't want to go, but
some of it is they gotta find guys that are
just happy to be there, and those last couple guys
are guys are just happy to be there, and they're
usually connected somehow with USA basketball, which is what should
(15:51):
have happened here. So I just it's it's just embarrassing. Meanwhile,
here we are talking about Win's basketball again and we're
in the We're on June eleventh, So I guess they win,
but they keep turning people off and then instead of
making people tun two watching it.
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way tire buying should be. So there's more out of
the Lakers camp today as they search for their next
head coach, where Sham Sharania says, hey, you know jjritt,
I mean excuse me, uh Dan Hurley wasn't the top
candidate overall, right, which needs to people to believe. And
(17:01):
I think there is some reality to the idea that
they were hot to trot on JJ Reddick and then
they started to have some second thoughts and then they
went after Danny Hurley. Danny Hurley took them on a dance,
didn't complete the dance and want to go home with them. Instead,
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he went back to Yukon for less money. Right, that's about.
And now people say how the Lakers have egg on
their faces, and I think they do. I'll offer up
what I think is much closer to the reality. Okay,
much closer to the reality. First thing is this, Okay,
(17:42):
the first thing is this. I want anyone who you
read that tweets or says, well, I can't believe they
fired Darvin Ham. Okay if and I've seen several people say, well,
the reason that the Laker's job isn't viewed as a
great job is because they fired Darvin Ham just a
(18:03):
year removed from the Western Conference finals. Darvin Ham is
viewed in the NBA by people outside the Lakers and
inside the Lakers as a below average at best head coach.
He was utterly and completely unimpressive. In fact, I'll sell
it to you this way. Not only was he not
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an X and O guy and he was a play
hard guy, but he was underwhelming in terms of his
preparation for well his staff meetings. He was late to
his own staff meetings, and there wasn't much to his
preseason training camps in terms of offensive install It was
all sort of generalities. And it's not a miracle. I mean, like, look,
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if Memphis had their full bow to players, they probably
don't get out of the first round. They did beat
the Golden State Warriors. But the idea that he was
done wrong. There isn't anyone I know in the NBA
is like man, whereas Frank Vogel. They should probably rehire
Frank Vogel. And yes, Frank Vogel got fired a year
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later after only coach for a year with the Sons.
That was a debuckle of a season, but a lot
of it was but widely respected in the NBA. Just
not a good fit is there is not a good
fit and not a good coach. So the first thing
is just anyone who says with Darvin Ham, like, dude,
(19:32):
Darvin Ham's a bad coach. Next. Hey, second part, I'm
gonna offer you up an alternative history that I think
is more likely than not an accurate one. And I
don't have sources that tell me it. But the source
(19:54):
I have is my own brain because I know a
lot of the players and the way these things work.
You ready for it? Okay? So they fired Darvin Ham
and they start compiling a list of who do we
want to hire? Right, it's not an easy job. Traditionally,
the Lakers don't pay a ton of money, don't offer
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up a lot of years. And I'm sure at some
point in time they said, what about Danny Hurley. Danny
Hurley be great? Danny Hurley won back to back titles
at Ucott and so they probably reached out to say,
where's Danny Hurley with this deal? And remember he had
just turned down the University of Kentucky and was offered,
(20:40):
we were told a big contract extension. So you go
through the early lists of things and like, who would
you who do you really want? Man? I love to
have Danny Hurley. He's awesome, awesome, and then they were
told he wasn't available. Then, when you look back at
last week shortly before the Danny Hurley news broke. The
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coach that was in for the last interview before the
news broke was James Barrego. Now, James Rego is probably
going to be the head coach of the Cabs, right.
James Barrego has the same agent as Danny Hurley. His
name is Bret Brett. Just I know Brett because he
used to rep me when I was a CIA guy.
(21:27):
He since left CIA. He's maybe the most powerful basketball
coaching agent in the country US. Most of it used
to be with college basketball, but now it's in the
NBA as well. So my guess is this is a
fairly educated guess is that when the Barrego thing didn't
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feel like it would make JJ, they're like, how do
we build a staff? Remember there was actually talk and
rumors out there, printed rumors by I think and I
know Scham's that Brego. They talked about him being the
lead assistant. So you bring Brego in, You're like, hey,
what about being the assistant. He's like, h I'd rather
be the head coach. I don't want to be the assistant.
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They were likely struggling to find a staff to work
with JJ Reddick. So when you're struggling to find the staff.
You start having second thoughts, You circle back and you
just talk to James Brego's agent and he says, you know,
Danny Hurley's contract has not been signed. It's not done.
(22:32):
Matter of fact, it's a little light of the money
he expected. So then Danny Hurley becomes the primary target.
They're going to fly him out to Los Angeles. And
if you remember, before that Friday meeting there was the
story of expectations being one hundred million dollar contract. You
(22:54):
do know that the Lakers aren't the only ones that
get the leak stories. So too does Danny Hurley in
his camp. And as I believe Jason Stewart has pointed out, Jason,
there's only one book that Adrian war Zanowski has written.
And when Woj does his appearances from his home, didn't
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she tell me that book is behind him.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
It's called The Miracle of Saint Anthony.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Miracle Saint Anthony. That's a book written by Woch, the
only book he's written about Bob Hurley Senior, the Hall
of Fame head coach and father of Danny Hurley. So
when the story comes out that the expectations are a
hundred million dollar deal.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (23:39):
That is the if you want to get this done,
if you want Danny Hurley to be your next head coach,
there's the number. And they landed on seventy million. Now
seventy million compared to the fifty million that he ended
up signing with with Yukon is substantial money. But he
told you through sources a hundred million was the number
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in thirty million dollars short. And so now they're left
with JJ Breddick, JJ Reddick feeling like he's more than
just the second choice, he's like the last possible choice.
And they got all questions about it. The Lakers extended
themselves to a level that they never have for a coach,
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especially when now that's never coached in the NBA. And
oh yeah, by the way, he turned them down because
they still came in light and this perception that they
weren't in on Danny Hurley all along. They're just simply
lying about it, Dan Byer, what do you think? What
do you think of my hypotheses?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Sorry, Doug, can you repeat that for I'm sorry?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, just my hypotheses is that they did, in fact,
we did have interest in Danny Hurley initially only at
that time he was involved with Kentucky. He turned down Kentucky.
They thought he had a contract extension, they thought it
was done, and then Brego and him have the same agent.
When the Brego thing wasn't going to be for a
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head coach, his agent very likely said, hey, you know,
Danny Hurley's Deal's not done. So did Danny use it
for leverage? Sure? But would he have taken it if
it was one hundred million dollars? Probably because one hundred
million dollars versus fifty million dollars that's twice as much money.
Of Course, you take that deal. Everybody takes that deal
seventy million dollars Like, Yeah, I don't know. I'm a
(25:30):
Jersey guy. I'm an East Coast guy. The Knicks are
going to be open in a couple of years. I
could go for the three pt. So did leverage become
a part of it? Yes? Was it a leverage play?
I don't think so. If it was one hundred million dollars, I.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Think it was a majority was was based on leverage.
And it's from what you were saying in terms of, yeah,
if they would have given me one hundred million dollars,
that would have been the you know, their head coach,
which would have doubled what we expect him to get
at Yukon so to So even in that where I
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don't know how realistic it would be that the Lakers
would give him that amount. I know they're comparing average
annual salaries to other NBA head coaches, and the Lakers
probably should have topped, you know, Monty Williams deal. But
it just seems to me of if you're not going
to coach the Lakers now, when are you gonna do it?
Like are they better in five years?
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I don't know. No, I don't think. I don't think
the Lakers think comes along again. So I don't I
got it. And I I asked my son last night
he was watching. He's like, he turned down the Lakers
and seventy million dollars? Is he crazy? I was like,
I guess it's like that's dumb. They're never gonna ask
him again. And I agree, and he's, you know, he's
he's fifteen year old kid. But I agree. I mean,
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I think everybody thinks, well the Knicks should. Yeah, there's
no there's no telling what happens with those jobs. I mean,
really that's why I took my job, you know, like
I didn't get it last year. I didn't think it
was coming back around. It's a great opportunity, a great
job go. Obviously the zeros are there's fewer. There's a
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lot of other stuff, but everybody has their reasons or
excuses or whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It is funny that the Knicks finally have success in
a coach that has stabilized the organization, and now we're
just wondering when they're going to move on so Danny
Hurley can take over.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Well, it's also the yeah they have success that people
are like, well, he wears out their players, he coaches
them too hard. It's like your people are never happy. Like,
what do you want him to do? You know, what
do you want him to do? J S. What do
you think of my hypothesies? No?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I think it has a lot of truth to it.
And what your hypothesis does is it directly contradicts this one.
Want remember when woj broke the news was on the
sixth of June. Was that last Thursday? Among his tweets
disclosing that the Lakers have zero did on Danny Hurley,
(28:13):
he says Hurley's been at the forefront of the Lakers
search from the beginning of the process. Now, like most things,
I'm less interested about the details on these than how
it's covered. So the cold war between Woje and Chalms
is interesting. Chams went on his platform today and said
(28:34):
that Hurley was not at the forefront of their search
from the beginning. This was a fairly recent process. I
find that interesting because Woje is all about reputation. Woge
is the top of the business, and I don't know
why he would exaggerate that or put that in there
if it wasn't true, if not to just help out
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Danny Hurley. And that's kind of the curious talking about those.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Sam Moo, do you think.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
I definitely think that Danny Hurley is benefits from all
of this. You know, he comes out of this, uh
even more above it all. And by the way, if
he's coaching the Knicks, Danny Hurley's coaching, he also coaches
guys pretty hard, doesn't he. I mean he I saw
a clip of him being like, these guys run, they
run everywhere. I know, I don't know, so, I mean,
(29:27):
if if Tom, if Bibbs or Tibbs, how are you.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
No I'm I'm with I'm with I'm with Dan. Though, Dan,
it's like, you know, we're we finally got a Knicks
coach who's finally got them competitor. Yeah, and now you're like, yea,
let's get rid of it, let's get Danny.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Oh yeah, No, I think that they're Yeah, this is
the most the Knicks have had a long time.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
But I also think that and and also the powers
that be Leon Rose that those aren't his people. There
would have to be a regime change, Like, look, I
I just think he didn't think it was the deal
was right, and I would guess there's a lot of
other parts to the Lakers that I think people are
starting to realize, Like Rob Polinka doesn't have an assistant GM.
(30:04):
You know that they'll hire a cat, they have a
cap consultant, but that stuff sometimes. So you got one
guy who's not really he didn't come up through the
GM rank, so he doesn't have this depth of Man,
I've done this for years and he has been the
GM for a good amount it almost a decade, like
a decade now, right, but it's it's just a very
(30:24):
different shot. Basically him and Kurt Rambis and then Kurt
Rambas's wife and making the decisions like that's it. It's
so weird in comparison to how other organizations are run.
And I don't know, it's quite obviously not a well
run deal. And I think part of it is they
try and keep it lean, but sometimes you try and
(30:46):
keep it too lean and it ends up biting in
the in the backside. It's really really interesting though, how
you know. I think our view of the Lakers and
the actual Lakers are two different things, and and they
have a reputation of being cheap with everybody outside the players.
Seventy million isn't cheap, but he told you through that
(31:08):
other tweet, one hundred million dollars was the number. Here's
sham Sharania summing up the coaching search.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
He met with JJ Reddick, once he met with James
Brigo a separate time solo, and then James Brago came
into the facility, met with everyone, met with ownership, and
then they last week on Wednesday, turned their attention. I'm
told to Dan Hurley and he was not the number
one candidate, the number one guy to go.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Pursue from the start, from the beginning. Yeah, so a
little bit of is Shams and Woje in a peeing match, right, No,
he wasn't the number one. I think it's very possible
that in a brainstorming session somebody said, hey, what about
Danny Hurley and they made a call and they're like, yeah,
(31:54):
he's he's got a new deal coming, and when they
found out the deal hadn't made yet, they tried to go,
which actually is really really smart. The problem is that
if you don't get it and you tick off all
the other potential coaches, especially a JJ Reddick. I still
think JJ takes it by the way, like it's not
like the head coaching jobs are just coming JJ's way,
(32:16):
you know, on a he gets chance to be Lakers,
I just don't think they're going to go. I think
both sides are just cool on each other. You know,
you go on dates with the people and you're like,
you know, that first date wasn't as good as I thought.
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Speaker 1 (32:36):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I love that Gen Rizzotti,
Like no one asked Gen Rozzotti like, hmm, I don't know.
You got another Yukon chick who is forty two years old.
She deserved to be on the team. Curious by the way.
(33:01):
She didn't play very well? Did she last night? There?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Iowa, Sam, No, she got hat on a several moments.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yep, look great, and honestly, I think she probably needs
the physical break right. It's just it's been a lot.
There's no there's been no letdown, no slowdown, but didn't
play particularly well and that team is going nowhere fast.
John Middlcoff in a moment, I saw this story and
I thought it'd be interesting. Robert Salah talked about why
(33:31):
Aaron Rodgers wasn't at OTA's today. Take a listen.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
Aaron and I spoke before OTIA started. He's been very
good in communication. He's been here the entire time. It's inexcused,
but he had an event that was very important to him,
which he communicated. He came through yesterday, he had his physical,
he did the multimedia day or the media day and
all that stuff. But like I said, he had something
that was very important to him. And if it's important
(33:56):
to him, it's important to us.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
It's not because it's in excuse apps, right, So what
do we think this absence is? I mean, we can
have some fun with that one. What do you think,
Jase do If you had to guess, what would the
absence be for Aaron Rodgers? What would the reason something
he had to go to?
Speaker 4 (34:19):
I personally, I think that he is going to a
convention for doing your own research? Come on, yeah, it's
the doing your own research convention. I think they have
it in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
They have lots of things in Vegas. It's very very
possible that could be slightly off strip right. Maybe that's
what's going to replace the Fountain Blue or the Fount
Blues in Trouble. Maybe that's that's the way to get
it back going is to is to make it the
home for people doing their own research. Let's welcome in
(34:52):
John Middelkoff. He of course has the Thread Out podcast. John,
what do you think of what do you think Aaron
Rodgers is doing? What event could be so important to
him that he could miss an excuse fashion I'm.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
Going to AOC fundraiser.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Okay, possible, It's possible.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
New York. You know he's already he's right around there,
you know, supporting the cause.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
What do you think of Caitlin Clark not being on
the national team.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (35:21):
Like, I can't pretend to break down the strengths and
weaknesses of the roster, but my overall tak my overall
take was this. The people that have been running the
WNDA for however, what two and a half decades, have
never been tapped with making any money. Right in your job,
(35:43):
in my job, if you don't make money, you go under.
But they've been subsized by the NBA. And I look
at it a lot like the government. The government doesn't
operate like a lot of companies do because they never
have to worry about going under so financially, it's why
you could have issues and like whatever, it doesn't matter.
And you look at the WNBA, like from a marketing standpoint,
(36:06):
it's obviously a no brainer. You know, the NBA operates
with with the NBA team where they factor in obviously
the best team. But there's a business element of it.
The moment, any player of any recognition, no matter how
old they are Lebron at forty four, once on the team,
Steph Curry, they know that matters for Jersey sales. And
(36:29):
I just I'm not shocked. I'm just I'm not shocked
to the WNBA they keep and the people at large
and women's basketball keep pushing back against her. And listen,
I've sait over and over, I've never paid attention to
women's basketball time maybe the Final four or whatever until now,
and it is incumbent on her now for the next
(36:49):
like five years, like part of Bryce Harper or Tiger
Woods or all these people when they first show up
and everyone's taking shot or Lebron then you've got to
answer the bell. So it's like, it's not like she
you know, she's got a long way to go. But
to me, it is a simple one in this notion,
I'm like, what if she was on the bench and
the fan ry, but like, who cares? Shut up? Just
put her on the team.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
So not that hard.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
It's it's a it was a very but it's but
also it gets back to how could anyone be shocked?
I go seen this coming from a mile away, fair point,
fair point.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
He's John Metalcffee joins on the Doug Otutlib Show here
on Fox Sports Radio. What are your experts, Let's go
back to Aaron Rodgers. What are your expectations of the Jets.
Speaker 8 (37:31):
Well overall, I mean, whenever this and I'm sure it is.
I bet the Jets are very hesitant to leak it
out because then it's clear that they leaked it out
against them. It's probably some sort of if I truly
had to guess ayahuasca darkness in the wilderness, something like that,
don't you think.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
No, I think I think it's it's got to be something.
He was there yesterday. He made sure to point out
he was there yesterday, So it's something that I would
say it's in close proximity. I don't know what it is,
but yeah, I don't think it's I don't think it's
Ayahuaska or anything like that.
Speaker 8 (38:05):
Yeah, I don't mean he's going to do ayahuasca. I
I'm just using that symbolically to like, I think it's
probably some sort of mental growth thing would be my guess.
I also don't think, like to me, Lamar never showing
up the old off season is much bigger deal than
Aaron going, hey, listen, guys, I'm forty. I had this
thing I was going to like whatever. I don't think
(38:27):
it's that big of a deal topically a big headline,
but he's been there the entire time. I don't think
it's that where you could argue that when the season ended,
Hassan Reddick, who has been an Eagle star pass rushers, like, guys,
I want a new contract. They're like, okay, think it's ray.
And when you trade for a guy that wants to
(38:47):
do contract in football, like if you just trade it
for Brandon a Uk right now, do you think he'd
just be happy, you know, day one of training camp
if the new team doesn't extend him like that problem
like that, That's just that was bizarre, Like he's nowhere
to be found, Like ultimately Aaron Rodgers, they want to
train and everything's fine. They just traded for a path
rusher who the Eagles and how he was like, okay,
(39:10):
you're just going to take our problem for a third rounder? Well,
are you going to extend them? And they never sended them.
And now Robert Salad said, like last week, they haven't
even talked to him.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, it's it's a weird one. But what about the team.
Did they fix the offensive line issues?
Speaker 8 (39:26):
I mean, they're just very dependent on some older players
that have some injury history. I give him credit for
taking an offensive lineman in the first round. I think
a lot of us thought, and I talked to a
lot of people in the NFL, and again, sometimes the
NFL can think a lot like us on the outside,
that they were going to go with bowers or an
offensive weapon, and they went with their guns as an
(39:46):
offensive lineman. Who if those guys are healthy, might not
even start, but they're definitely improved. He definitely have to
feel a lot better. But I think their whole team,
or a lot of the guys they've signed, including Aaron,
you the health risk for them, is it fair to say,
is for any team that has a chance to be competitive.
(40:07):
It feels like it's the highest in the league. I mean,
Mike Williams, Tyron Smith, now Aaron with his achilles. It's
those guys are good. They're trying to be fine, right that.
If I told you right now that those three guys
played ninety of the games like they'll probably be in
pretty good shape.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
It's a big ift, though, uh, the biggest. I mean,
it's hard enough to stay healthy when you're young, let
alone when you're old.
Speaker 8 (40:31):
And Mike, Mike Williams, I mean, I don't know who
doesn't like him. They watches them play high character. Guys,
he's got a roof for he gets hurt a lot.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
He was always he was always hurt when he even
when he's in his prime. Now he's coming off a
major injury, and I would say he's not in his prime.
But so it'll be interesting to see. But you know,
there are certain organizations that feel like they got to
roll the dice on guys instead of developing their young
guys the way for example, the Chiefs are developing.
Speaker 8 (40:57):
You could you could argue the way they have to play.
Remember the Floor's first year with them, Aaron wasn't quite
I mean, he wasn't even close to what he became.
The next two years when he's an MVP, they kind
of just dumbed it down a little bit. And this
defense on the Jets is better now, the AFC is
better than the NFC. But maybe they don't need him
to be super human if their defense, again, it's incumbent
(41:18):
on the defense to be top five is in the
league because last year, once he goes down, it's just
hard for defensive players. When he started looking at the
quarterback like this is a joke. So even you could
argue even if Aaron Rodgers now is the ten best
quarterback in the NFL if he doesn't turn the ball over,
which he doesn't, and they play good defense, you run
the ball. But you could argue the big question mark
(41:40):
at the opfensive coordinator is pretty clearly the floors better
than Rogers.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Guy there and pack it slightly, just a little bit,
a little little smidge a little smidge better. I would
say that's the problems.
Speaker 8 (41:54):
That's the problem. I mean, anytime you hire the coordinator
thing and what are they supposed to do? I mean,
Aaron on him. But it's like even Lebron want to
Russell Westbrook. Sometimes you just you have these rose colored
glasses and it's like this, this is not gonna work.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Mike Tomlin three year extension. This is coming off a
ten and seven year but one in which they actually
gave up more points than they scored. Is this the
right call for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 8 (42:19):
I just think it's just it's just their mo I mean,
they can't even help themselves. They're just like, we're just
we're never going to get rid of a coach, like
the Eagles got rid of Andy Reid. And I got
news for you, Tomas, even I know he won a
Super bowler on his career, he's never been as good
as Andy Reid. So I just I think they are
very It's it's the rooty way they refuse to change.
(42:42):
I said last year. I love Mike Thomas. I mean
he's I think he's a really good coach. If he
would have been a free agent, been easily the number
one guy on the market, and he would have got
a job immediately, some teams might have fire their coach
to hire. But like, isn't there time. Isn't the old
adage like in kind of basketball and the ball is
like it only goes like what Belichick did twenty five years?
(43:04):
Is really even Andy fourteen years in Philly? Hasn't that
kind of runs? Course? I just I just don't expect
to see anything different this year. Hell I already think
and I don't even like justin Field that much as
a player. Just put justin Field out there, see what
he got.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
As as the quarterback, what is a running back wider quarterback?
Speaker 8 (43:25):
Well, he hybrid kickoff return man quarterback?
Speaker 1 (43:31):
What do you think? Say that again, what do you
think kickoff returns look like this year? Anyway?
Speaker 8 (43:37):
I actually was watching some clips. I think it's gonna
be pretty sweet. I've watched a lot of just coaches
press conferences during OTA's kind of a loser that way,
and they're all like kind of getting juice up. I
think at first, you know, the natural reaction to any
human in any industry is pushed back on a big change.
But I think the more they've looked at it, it's
got a chance to kind of put your own spin
(43:58):
on it. We're going to get a lot more or
explosive place, you know. And I think we're also going
to see a big diversity of different people returning. I mean,
some people have like true returners, but I think we're
gonna see a lot in tight games. You know, in
a big game, if you're playing a division rival or
a conference rival, where you're like Deebo saming to go
(44:18):
back their return you know, ta Kwon Barkley, go back
there and return this one because you're going to take
a hit or you're not gonna you're gonna take a tackle,
no different than you would as you would as a
as a runner, like Alvin Kamara hit back. It's it's
seventeen seventeen, we're both four and four. We're playing in
the Atlanta Falcons is a huge game, and I think
(44:39):
you're less hesitant because now really the big molly wop
hit shop because we didn't. I think only a little
over twenty percent of kickoffs were return so that that
play had become almost no one void. Now I think
we're just going to see a lot of action because
there's severe penalty for kicking it out of bounds, even
kicking it way through the end zone, so it is
(45:04):
promoting kicking it in that little kickoff zone, and again
the defense only gets the five yard head start on
the offensive blockers. I think it's gonna be fascinating. You know,
our guys that might not have made the team now
make the team because they can play a role even
more consistently on special teams, so that bottom half of
your roster. It kind of might open up more competition
(45:27):
in training camp where most of the good teams they
really only have a couple of spots. I wonder if
that number on you know, the top ten teams in
the NFL goes from like two to three true open
spots in training camp to maybe six seven, which is
definitely a cool aspect if you're in the front office
or a coaching staff. It just adds the more intrigue.
I think definitely preseason games now mostly suck because the mcveighlification,
(45:53):
and I don't blame them, and everyone kind of fallows suit. Besides,
like Andy, I think we're all going to be paying
attention with that play happen right on a preseason game.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah, no question, I can't wait. I'm I'm like you,
I'm actually quietly looking forward to it, wondering what it's
actually gonna look like.
Speaker 8 (46:08):
Well like all of a sudden Debo or Saquon or
a guy like that back there or still coaches are
going to be hesitant to like hurt a main offensive player.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I think initially we will not, but I think if
they see the possibility and in rare situations, yeah, then
I think by mid season we will. It'll be guys
maybe last year their contract, or guys that have major
contracts that have been signed so they're good for a
couple of years. I think guys in the middle will
you won't use He's John mittl Koff three and out
(46:39):
as the podcast, Going Low as the golf podcast. He's
the best, Johnny, Thanks so much.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
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