July 18, 2024 • 44 mins
On a Thursday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug explains why the US OIympic basketball team needs Joel Embiid and all of this talk about Anthony Davis is uninformed.
Doug welcomes NFL analytics expert Warren Sharp onto the show to talk about Jordan Love. the Chiefs, and all of the other headlines around the NFL.
Doug talks about the upcoming Olympic Games and explains why the sport of Swimming is the most Olympic sport of all of the sports.
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I want to start with something that I actually really
relate to in my current position, and by position, I
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don't mean seated in my office. No, that's not it.
My current position is a head basketball coach of a
Division one men's team, and we have what do we
have currently on our roster, and we got a lot
of dudes. I think it's sixteen dudes, and we're going
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to end up with eighteen dudes. You can have thirteen scholarships,
you can have other non scholarships. We came walk ons,
non scholarship players. And I want to relate it to
something that is being said about USA basketball that is
both right and wrong at the same time. So if
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you've watched it all in any of these games, and
by games, I mean exhibition games, you would know that
Joel Embiid looks like he hasn't played basketball maybe ever
in his life, right. He's just this just does not
look like he's sharp, does not look like he's in shape,
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does not look locked in with the rest of the team.
For a guy who's been an NBA MVP and called
by yours truly to be the most talented big man
the game has ever seen, he's looked anything but so far.
But I know this from coaching in a similar and
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dissimilar tournament, and I know that from preparing for an
upcoming season. It's that everything you see now looks like
it's going to be international basketball in the Olympics smells feels,
the names on the jerseys, the way in which it's officiates,
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the basketball is the same. It is not the same.
And there have been many people, many people who have
said on on social media, whatever, and on media and
right here on Fox Sports Radio that Anthony Davis is
better with the starting group, should be playing at center.
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He should be the starting center. He's the guy, he
moves better, he's in better shape, he spaces out the
floor bearer, YadA, YadA, YadA. Anthony Davis should be the
starting center with USA basketball. And based upon how they've played,
and I haven't seen practice, but I'm guessing you're probably right.
But this isn't about beaten Serbia yesterday. It's not about
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beating Australia previously. It's not about any of that, not
about beating Canada previous to that. Well, they beat they
could show up hungover, everyone plays left handed, and they
would beat Sudan to win a gold medal. If you've
watched when USA basketball has struggled, he what international competition
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and international rules allow is a much more traditional center.
You can play old school zone defense, and oftentimes we
have big guys that just get worn out. I mean,
it's the whole reason, the whole reason that we push
for Joel Embiid to naturalize, so we have a legit,
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legit NBA center who's fantastic when he's in shape, and
though you may not need him now, and though he
may not look like he belongs now, he will. And
Anthony Davis or bam out of Bayo even go back
and look at the last Olympics, like bam out of
Bayo did not have a great Olympics. And one of
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the things he struggled with is kind of old school,
big old big men who lean into you. Because a
skill set it takes to play NBA basketball. You got
to play out on the pruiter. You gotta be able
to block shots. But coming from outside the lane, your
teams are playing five out, you got it, You're playing
in the drop, You're doing all these things. Whereas it's
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a different skill set required to play in the Olympics.
It's a it. It looks the same, it feels the same,
it sends the same, but it's not the same. I mean, look,
it's the same reason at least on a micro level,
on somebody that you don't want Jalen Brown and you
you do want, you know a Derek White, because you
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need guys that can shoot, that are bigger and can
guard bigger guards, and that can space and don't need
the basketball. You need big guys who can score and
defend at the block like it was nineteen ninety two
when it's Pat Ewing. We weren't trying to wear you
out down there. That's the reality to it. So you're
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right if you say that, right now, by your own eyes,
Anthony Davis is is playing better. It looks like he's
in better shape. You're right, But you're wrong if you
think that Steve Kerr and the brain trust of USA
basketball is making a mistake by continuing to throw Joel
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Embiid out there. They're not playing for this week. They're
not playing for next week. They're playing for three or
three weeks from now or so when they're playing for
Olympic gold medal, and they have to have a big
guy who can score at the block and stop somebody
at the block. And that is not naming Anthony Davis.
He does not want to play center. That is not
named Bam out of Bayu who he's just not big
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and thick enough, and they cannot score at the low block.
And it's one of those things that you gotta understand.
You gotta take my word for it that international basketball
is different and that you have to believe in at
some point, Joel Beid's gonna win you a game. Joel
Ebid is going to win you a game. And I
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know this because again, I've coached an international competition. I've
had these exact same conversations with a basketball staff. It's different,
but it's the same, and it's what it takes you
to win some games before you play in that tournament,
because when you get there, USA Basketball gets no calls.
We're not used to playing that style of officiating where
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everybody's biggest game. And oh yeah, by the way, the
one thing that they do that we cannot do is
they we just don't teach low post play anymore because
of the way it's officiating the NBA, the way it's
officiating college, and we want our big guys to be
screeners rollers throw it to the rim. That doesn't that's
not how it's played international basketball. So you can be
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right about how Anthony Davis looks in comparison to Joel Embiid.
You can be critical of Joe Embiid. What you can't
do is. I don't believe you can use this, make
this critique and blow it up to meaning something bigger.
In terms of his NBA career, It's a different sport,
a different style. Here's Colin Cowher earlier today on Joel Embiid.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
My eyes did not tell me that Westbrook was an
MVP and Carmelo was an absolutely dominant player, or Derreck
Rose was going to run the league, and my eyes
are telling me the same for years. With Joel Embiid.
I'm not denying he's got a shack feel to him.
But Shaq won in the playoffs. Shaq was dominant when
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it mannered. I'm watching this Olympics stuff and Beid gets
in the way of the offense. Anthony Davis doesn't. Hell.
Anthony Davis took two shots yesterday and was the second
most dominating player in the game to Steph Curry. He
is literally jumps off the television set. And here's the
thing I like about AD and we've seen this for
years in Los Angeles. He can be a star and
dominated game, but he's also an incredibly complementary player. He
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elevates Lebron. Lebron doesn't have to worry about defending the rim.
He can be a complementary player on this Olympic team,
or he can dominate moments. With Embiid, there is no
complementary to his game. He forces you to play his style,
and so does Steph Curry. But I get four titles,
and so did Lebron. But I got eight straight finals
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with Embiid. He forces you to play his game, but
I don't get the payoff at the end of the season.
He gets in the way of the Olympic offense. And
I find sometimes watching Philadelphia. Yes, he's productive, so was
Zach Levine, and the Bulls can't give him away. If
you're talking about the greatest bigs of all time. Russell titles,
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Kareem titles, Shack titles, a game titles. Embiid can't win
a second round playoff series in the weaker.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Conference, Well, the couple lots to unpacked. There Again, Colin
is conflating what he's seeing in exhibition games with Team
USA to what's happened what happened with the Philadelphia seventy
six ers. It's a different sport, it's a different composition,
and frankly, my guess would be when Joel Embiid lost
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in the playoffs and he had a bit of an
e issue. It feels like he he didn't touch basketball
for a month or two, so it feels like and
by the way, Shaq would be like that. And just
so we're aware, if we remember, Okay, Shaquille O'Neill was
not on the Dream Team. He was on the second
and then the third like dream team whatever. That was
an abject disaster. He was actually an awful international player.
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Go back and look was not good. And yeah, Shaq
won in the playoffs. He won when he had Kobe Bryant.
Kobe carried them and then oftentimes in the finals Shaq
would have a massive mismatch. But I'm not trying to
dimin a shack. He was dominateting. But he's different than
Joel Embiid. Different And if the East is a weaker conference,
to why the Celtics just win going away? Granted they
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didn't play the top team in the West, but how
good was the actual West top? But the bigger point
is now, he's not wrong that the ball everything flows
better with Anthony Davis. He's not wrong that Embiid feels
a little clunky right now.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Not wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
But you have to have a vision of what it's
going to look like when they get to the semi
finals and the gold medal game. And anyone who's watched
the Olympics and USA Basketball, they've done this things through
the embarrassment of the World Cup, the last Olympics when
they survived because Kevin Durant and I guarantee what they're
thinking right now is we got to have a legit,
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big dude. We got to have Joel Embiid in shape,
and sitting him over there because Anthony Davis is playing
better now doesn't help us get him in game shape
for two three weeks from now. And we have the
same conversations in college basketball. What it looks like now
in the summer when we let him play is not
what it's going to look like when we get to
December eleventh and I play our rival UW Milwaukee in
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our home in our home arena. That's the challenge of
coaching is understanding what's ahead of you and that oftentimes,
either in practice or exhibition games, it's not going to
look the same once you get to the real heart
of competition. People saying that Joel Embiid should be pulled
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from Starry Lamp should barely be played. He looks like
crap or whatever. Aren't seeing the bigger picture. I think
Steve Kurr and Grant Hill are.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
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Nick Cope, Sam, you guys are just.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
I know who Bob Newhart is.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I know you know who he is, but I don't.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
I used to watch what was the show he's on,
Mary Tyler Moore? Wow, you watch Mary Tayler Moore like
Nick and Knight reruns?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
You know?
Speaker 5 (13:01):
So also it was on he had new Heart, Yeah,
his own show, and he's also in like the Simpsons.
He had Camra very funny guy, very dry sense of humor.
Great life he was.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
He was I think most famous for the one person
conversation when he was a stand up comedian. I know
my dad had cassettes and he had LPs of some
of the great comedians, Richard Pryor, which is I mean
just hysterical. But but Bob Newhart as well and Bob Newhart.
(13:32):
Would it would it would? It would be as if
you were listening to me on the phone talk to
somebody else like that. That was like the one person conversation,
if you will, and I mean just a riot. And
then of course New Heart. I think the most famous
part about New Heart the TV show was one of
the characters, I'm Darryl. This my brother Darryl. I my
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other brother Darryl. Say Hi Darryl, A Jay dude?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You or you?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Were? You a New Heart guy? At all?
Speaker 6 (14:00):
I was?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I was.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
His particular style of humor is right at my alley. Correct.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Honestly, that's been. There have been times in which I
have thought you were doing a New Heart in a
way in which you cracked me up.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
He just he never gave away the joke. If you
weren't smart enough to pick up on his humor, that
was on you. I love those kind of comics.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, he's absolutely absolutely brilliant man, brilliant man. I was
thinking about this, it's, uh, what are we at July?
What day? Stay eighteenth? Isn't it fascinating that last July eighteenth?
If I would have mentioned the name Jordan Love, What
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do you think your reaction would have been right because
at the time, Jordan Love, remember, was the guy who
basically the Packers had chased Aaron Rodgers away or upset
Aaron Rodgers. All depends upon, you know, I don't know
whose side you were on or how they handle it
or whatever. But we had people, talented television people, very
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few football analysts, but mostly yackers who said he can't play.
They didn't say he's not great, he's not good, he's
not top ten, he's not top fifteen. They were people
who said he can't play. He's not an NFL caliber
starting quarterback. That was one year ago, right, If I
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were to reracket, and my whole thought was like, hey,
let's see how this thing plays out. My entire thought
when he was drafted, we have the tape to prove it.
My entire thought was like I totally understood when he
was drafted. It was coming off of Aaron Rodgers having
a disappointing year. He was a project guy. He'd had
two years in college, one where he was good, one
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where he wasn't very good. He went through a ton
of personal stuff going back to when he was in
middle school, high school's dad. Of course, everybody knows was
a cop committed suicide, so there was a lot there
to unpack, and he was. He was potentially a top ten,
top fifteen prospect, but the Packers would never draft in
that spot, so they took a flyer on him because
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they knew that Aaron Rodgers thing eventually would come to
an end. And last year, this time, you guys tell
me if I'm wrong. Most people thought he couldn't play,
and here we are now where the Packers seem to
found their quarterback in the future. Most people think that
in the coming days before they have camp starting Monday
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in Green Bay, that he'll sign a new deal an extension.
I think he makes like eight million dollars this year,
which again that was an extension to his rookie contract
eight million dollars. Warren Sharp joins us. He's an expert
in predictive NFL analytics, the founder of Sharp Footballanalysis dot com. Warren,
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if I was to ask you what Sharpfootballanalysis dot Com
thought of Jordan Love last year, this time, the entry, Oh.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Well, that's a good question. I think coming off of
the season that we saw out of Aaron Rodgers, and
in terms of predicting what we might get out of
the twenty twenty three Green Bay Packers. I was on
there over I want to say they were at seven
and a half wins. So the overall expectation in terms
of like what you are suggesting is absolutely accurate. The
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league as a whole, the betting markets did not think
that we would get a Jordan Love season like we saw.
I believe that their win total was only seven and
a half wins. I did not think they would win
first place in their division, the NFC North, but I
thought they would exceed their expectations. At seven and a half,
I thought there was room for growth. I thought that
there would not be that much of a drop off
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twenty twenty three Jordan Love versus twenty twenty two Aaron Rodgers,
because twenty twenty two Aaron Rodgers was extremely bad. But
Jordan Love did a lot of things this past season
that I don't think anybody could see possible, anybody would
have predicted. And in addition, there are some things that
like just are not going to improve in twenty twenty
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four over what he was doing last year in twenty
twenty three. For example, I'll just share this one simple
statistic goal to go situations last year, Jordan Love was
the number one best quarterback in goal to go situations,
in success rate, in touchdown rate in EPA. For pass attempts,
he threw the number five most touchdown of any quarterback
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in goal to go situations while delivering the best efficiency
in those situations. You're not going to do any better
than that this upcoming year. So I think Jordan Love
obviously exceeded expectations last season. But I'm just I'm really
curious what this assent is going to be. I hope
it's great. I want excellent quarterbacks throughout the league, but
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there was a lot of things that really went well
for him last year that I'm just not sure that
we're going to see a huge jump in twenty twenty
four over what he was delivering last season.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, it's gonna be fascinating to see what happens now.
Look in fairness, okay, I don't know. If they win
the division, if Kirk Cousins doesn't get hurt right like that,
they may look very very different. On the other hand,
you know, they are a player two away, a made
field goal away from beating the San Francisco forty nine
ers and going to Super Bowl so there's a or
potentially going to Super Bowl, So there's a lot to unpack.
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I brought him up because who do you think is
this year's Jordan Love? Where we don't really know, right,
we don't really really know and it's an important year.
Is there one quarterback you can think of who is
this year's Jordan Look doesn't mean they have the success
in first and goal to go and overall success of
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a Jordan Love, but is in a similar predicament in
terms of we just don't have enough data, but this
is going to be a telling year.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Well that's a really tough question for me because I
don't think that there is somebody who. I mean, Jordan
Love was in such a unique situation where he had
the ability to sit and not play for several years
and when he was injected into the offense that the
one key thing that really helped Jordan Love, let's be honest,
was that offensive line. They're one of the best young
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offensive lines in the NFL that could protect for him,
and so he had that ceiling. So what you're looking
for is somebody who is probably is not a rookie
who's got the maturity and the experience, even though He
hasn't had playing experience. He just had the experience of
working within a system, working within the same offense for
several years, and is going to be pass protected with
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one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. I'm
looking around the league right now at all the teams,
I just don't see another player like that out there.
There are some players that are obviously really good quarterbacks
that have done nothing with their time in the league,
and one of them would be like a Justin Herbert,
where Justin Herbert, I don't think his weapons this year
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are going to help him excel and really reach his zenith.
But I do think that Justin Herbert is better even
than what we've seen the last couple of years. If
you just look at what he's been delivering, he's been
playing behind one of the most injured offensive lines in
the NFL. If you look back at how frequently Mike
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Williams and or Keenan Allen were actually healthy, because they're
not there this year. Both of them are gone this year.
But those guys, I think over the last two years,
that's out of thirty four combined games they've actually played
on the field and been healthy for six of those
games together. They really have not been there and dependable.
Now they've got a new head coach there, they've got
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a new philosophy. They're going to be running the football
a lot more, which should open up things when they
do end up passing the football. But I just think
that their general manager gutted that receiving corps and they
do not have any good receivers. I do not like
their number one receiver. He's the second year player.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Is his name?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
I'm forgingna now, Quentin Johnston not a TCU didn't really
like him coming into the league. Relying on him as
your number one, I don't think it's going to get
you very far. But he's a guy who could potentially
if there were things around him, if that receiving class
improved a lot. You know, Justin Herbert's a guy who
I would throw into that group. But I don't think
there's anybody like a Jordan Love this year, honestly.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, but please don't mention that name. We're just so,
you know, myself and Jason Stewart are Charger fans. So
when you say Quentin Johnson, we get that, you know,
that little taste of barf in your mouth. We kind
of get that thing. That thing going a little bit
too much. Although Lad McConkey I think is going to
have a nice litt run and everybody likes Josh Palmer
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thinks he can be on right. But again, they're going
to do I mean, this is going to be the Ravens, right,
They're going to run the football. This is this is classic.
It worked in Buffalo, it worked in San Francisco, and
it worked in in Baltimore with the same offense coordinator.
We'll see if it works with the La Chargers. You
mentioned your thoughts on overs and unders. Who do you
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believe is the easiest to pick under? Who's the team
that Vegas or the number in Vegas is in love
with more so than you are.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Unfortunately, I don't think they're going to win by like
a whopping margin here. But I just think that Dallas
Cowboys are so fragile right now. The best thing that've
got going for them, in my opinion, is the simple
fact that Jason Kelsey is no longer the starting center
for the Philadelphia Aples, and so there's a lot of
questions as to how effective inefficient the toush Bush is
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going to be without them. But Apart from that, everybody
in that division has gotten better, and I don't think
the Dallas Cowboys have. I think the Dallas Cowboys have
progressed and gotten a little bit worse. We tend to
overlook we focus so much on the offensive side of
the football, whether that's because of fantasy football or because
the quarterback contract values is things of that nature, but
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we don't focus as much on defense as we should.
And the Dallas Cowboys for three consecutive years have had
such a good defense that their turnover margin has been
positive double digits for each of the last three years
their overall turnover margin and only eight teams in the
last two decades have delivered three consecutive years where their
team has been double digit to the positive and turnover margin.
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None of those teams that Dallas Cowboys were one of
them in twenty one, twenty two to twenty three. None
of those teams we're able to deliver four consecutive years
with plus ten or more total turnover margin, and most
of them average plus four the very next year. If
you take away six turnover margin, this team is losing
easily three more games. I mean, it's turnover margin is
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so predictive of game outcomes that if you take those away,
there's no way that they're going to have a season
like they did last year. And then let's also remember
that they lost their defensive coordinator who was really responsible
for that scheme and that aggressive attacking ability. They had
I believe five return touchdowns last season. That's hard to repeat.
That's probably unlikely to happen. And all those guys now
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went to d C, right, and so that's a competitor
of yours. DC's got a new quarterback, Daniel Jones, probably
hopefully is going to be healthy this season. And I
think the Philadelphia Eagles replacing their coordinators, it's going to
make a big difference for this team. I think last year,
people forget the Philadelphi Egos. Last year started ten and one,
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which is identical to what they started in twenty twenty
two when they went to the super Bowl. But that
Eagles team last year was not even close to the
twenty twenty two team because of their style on offense,
because of that offensive coordinator. They replaced, their offensive coordinator,
they replace the defense cordnat. I think this team is
going to be more aggressive, get out to leads earlier
in games. I think that they're more well rounded than
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the Dallas Cowboys, So you know, I think the Cowboys
moved back a little bit. They won first place in
that NFC East last last year. I think they win
second place at best this year. I think the Eagles
are going to go over their win total. I think
the Eagles are going to win that division. I think
the Cowboys go under their win total. I think the
Cowboys finished second.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
In the nfcast Steg Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports, Trady
Warren Sharp is our guest. He's an expert in predictive
NFL analytics, founder of Sharp Football Analysis dot com. Okay,
last year felt like the worst possible supporting cast offensively
for the now defending Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs.
What does your predictive analysis say about the chief season
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this year?
Speaker 6 (26:36):
The only thing that's difficult for the Chiefs this year
is just their overall strength to schedule, which you would
expect when you win that division, When you win that
conference and you're the best team from a Super Bowl perspective,
you have to play that first place schedule, and so
their schedule overall is the twelfth most difficult. But this team.
They lost a couple of pieces defensively, but I think
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they're going to be offensively which can compensate for that.
This team did so many things that weren't perfect last season.
They threw so many passes behind the line of scrimmage.
They were not an aggressive downfield passing attack. You know
two years ago when they won the Super Bowl in
twenty twenty two. This is a team that had sort
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of quote unquote solved the two high safety defenses that
they started throwing at them, and oh my gosh, it's
taking away the deep stuff. What are offenses going to do?
The Chiefs had figured it out a little bit in
twenty twenty two, but in twenty twenty three, they did
not have the confidence in their receiving corps. They did
not have the expertise there to really solve that, to
really punch back, and so they struggled in against Cover two.
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Unlike in twenty twenty two. I think they're going to
be better suited to deal with it this upcoming season.
The long question you really have here is just how
long is Travis Kelsey going to be healthy for They
did a smart thing last year where they pulled him
off the field pretty predictively on so that he did
not have to waste his snaps run blocking quite as much.
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So he was mostly out there when they were passing
the football to take advantage of what he could deliver.
But they're going to need to lean more on some
of the other guys because it's one thing for him
to run as many routes as he's running, but if
he's actually going to be targeted at that same rate,
that requires the stress of catching the football and then
running after that, cast being tackled and being dragged to
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the ground, all things that you don't have to do
if they simply target a secondary weapon there. And I
think getting Marquise Brown in there is definitely going to
be very interesting. Marquis Brown has never been in the
past first offense. Keep this in mind, he played under
Greg Roman's scheme we talked about him earlier in Baltimore.
Then he's playing in Arizona last year, which had a
league average rate with some really bad quarterbacks. Now he's
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going to hind the city one of the highest pass
rates of any team in the NFL, and he's playing
with the best quarterback in the NFL. His involvement here
is going to look much different, and then of course
you've got a fever Worthy the speed demon on the outside.
So I think there's a lot more that the Chiefs
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I think it's an X factor, a hidden weapon that
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fact that Spags has been delivering at such a high
rate and hasn't been poached by another team is absolutely
ridiculous and is a massive edge for the Kansasity Chiefs
because he's just so good at those big game situations,
at crafting a defensive scheme that can slow down your
opposing offense.
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So the Olympics are upon us, right.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
It's weird Like in nineteen eighty four, I was eight
years old and the Olympics came to Los Angeles and
I've heard people say, like Lebron say like, well, I'm
gooding out of LA when the Olympics come. Okay, well
I understand that Lebron has played in the Olympics, but
I gotta tell you it's kind of awesome. Now. I
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know there's certain things they're doing. I think they're doing
They're doing the softball in Oklahoma, right, and are they
doing the rowing there as well? Like I know, it's
going to be spread out, it's not gonna be as
centralized as it was in eighty four, but there is
something really cool about the world's greatest athletes, all competing,
all coming together in one place, and the chance to
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go see sports you never thought you could see ever again.
Like I remember we saw the Olympic basketball team play
in eighty four. That was Michael Jordan. They had an
exhibition game at cal State Fullarton, which, of course cal
State Fullarton is known basically for three things. Great baseball. Hey,
Phil Nevin, my great baseball. They used to have a
football team, great baseball Bruce Bowen and Leon Wood probably
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was a member of the Olympic team in eighty four.
And it's also the alma mater of Jason Stewart, right,
I mean that's actually is there a statue or just
a plaque out front Jay stew it's.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
A copy of my GPA. So you can go on
campus and see a plaque of one point nine to three.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Love it anyway. So if you went to what's now
the Home Depot Center, did the Galaxy still play there?
The Chargers used to play there. That used to be
the velodrome that used to be where the bike racing
was in eighty four and I remember going to it,
and if you've ever seen the I think it's a velodrome, right,
(34:08):
if you ever see it, like that thing is insane,
the pitch and the angle that they raise spikes at.
So there's a lot of cool Olympics. The people that
like want to get out of town like whatever, goodbye. Uh,
there's just they'll do it. They did a great job
in eighty four with the traffic. Obviously, Los Angeles is
exponentially bigger. Traffic is exponentially worse, but I'm guessing that
(34:30):
they'll do some of the similar things they did and
so many people were from home. Now they can continue that.
But I was thinking about swimming. That's going to be
it's so fi And I'm thinking about the Olympics that
are coming up in Paris. And look, I'm not a
huge fan of the Olympics. Now I would still go
and watch, but like this year, part of it is
(34:51):
anything that's really on in a different time zone I
struggle with I'm not the ugly American. I just kind
of struggle with it. So I'm sitting here and I'm
thinking to myself self, is there any more Olympic sports?
Any more Olympic sports than swimming? And by swimming, I
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mean and swimming is brilliant, right, because if you ask somebody, honestly,
I'm gonna list all these sports, where does this one rank?
You would put like swimming pretty low. But they they
almost always have it. I think they always have it.
Like in the first week of competition, and let's be honest,
we all get Olympic fatigue. You know, by the time
(35:35):
you get to the second or third week and they're
doing track and field, They're like, oh, this thing still on,
but in the first week you have almost always swimming,
and swimming only really works in the Olympics because well,
nobody cares otherwise, Like, can anyone name any other And
(35:56):
this is not to the swimming community, but to anyone
outside of the swimming can can anyone name anybody that
races for USA swimming? Have you ever watched the swim
meet outside the Olympics ever? And yet during the Olympics,
from Mark Spitz to Michael Phelps to Katy Ldecki to
(36:18):
everybody in between, Like these names become synonymous with American sports,
not just Olympics. And oh yeah, by the way, it
only works because of the video presentation of swimming. Otherwise,
like and just people racing in a pool. I don't
know who's who, but they do such a good job
of like you know that little arrow that comes down
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with the timing and the world record and then they
touch the wall and all of that stuff. I think
it's the most Olympic sport ever. And by that I
mean it's literally only important every four years. It's only
good because it's on TV. None of these people matter
in mainstream sports world, in the main stream world forever
(37:01):
except for during the week and a half or two
weeks in which their events take place, and yet for
that week and a half, it is literally the biggest
thing on the planet. That's my presentation of facts, chasing
Stewart your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I think it's perfect. It's a because I'm everyone pays
attention to it times one thousand in that first week
of the Olympics. You're right the first week, because the
first week of the two weeks is swimming. The second
week is track and field. If I'm not mistaken, but
you're right, swimming is is like the I guess what
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is the perfect example of an Olympic sport and that
everyone cares a lot. And then then the annoying part
of our industry is that you get talk show hosts
that act like they know a lot about it. Yeah,
for a couple of days, and then it goes away.
I can think of a couple of hosts on this network.
I think that they're going to have a lot of
(38:00):
swimming takes and then disappear for four years. But you're right,
You're right. And by the way, Amy van Dykin was
I want to say a gold medalist, or at the
very least an Olympic swimmer who had a really bad accident,
and she is an alum of Fox Sports Radio. She
hosted a show with Rob Dibble nightly. I don't know
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ten to fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Tibbs Dibbs, Sam, are you an Olympic?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Not?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Kind of sear you Olympic? You consume the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
I only have red hot takes over the biathlon.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
It's winter? Is that running and shooting steeple chase?
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Maybe it's the Uh, it's where you like cross country
ski and then you stop and you have this weird
looking twenty two caliber rifle and you get down on
your on your chest and you fire at a target.
Then you get up and you continue.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
To cross basically GTA right, It's it's.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
An interesting sport. Is that not a winter sport?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
It is?
Speaker 5 (39:02):
It's a winter sport. So I'm more into the Winter Olympics,
uh than the Summer Olympics.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Uh is it?
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Where is it as a Paris? So it's gonna be
like on yeah, like different hours, tape delay, whatever it's
going to be. I'll catch a little bit of it.
Summer Olympics not so much into, but Olympics in general
not so much into I think I tend to favor
the Winter Olympics.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
It's basically GTA before GTA, right, basically GTA without shooting
actual people or punching out people and robbing them right
where you're running in your shooting and you're running in
your shooting.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
I have I don't, I could be. I'm sure, I'm right.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
How do we not dominate in that? I mean, just
it feels like we should be completely dominant in the run.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
Where did that sport? Did it come from? Like Russia
where they'd like cross country ski and like hunt at
the same time, and they're like, I can cover a
lot of land and I'll carry my gun.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
So they have in the Winter Olympics too, where you're
actually like skiing, right, is that is it the same
is the biathon?
Speaker 5 (39:52):
It is a Winter Olympics.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
It's only window. Yeah, I didn't know if there was
a there was a summer version.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
I like this ski well that'd be yeah, I don't know,
you could use how about rollerblading? Shooting a gun? I like, uh,
I like skiing as well. In the Winter Olympics. Yeah,
in the cross countries, like you know, Usain Bolt captivated
us all. I mean, like he was one of, you know,
one of the one fastest, Like look the the so
he was watch him.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Right track and field. You're talking about the fastest human
beings on earth.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Shakari Richardson's pretty cool. She draws a lot of eyeballs
and uh so, yeah, I mean I'll probably catch that
some some of that stuff. The swimming, you know, since
Michael Phelps and what was that kind of the the
the Mimbo guy, uh the Ryan Lochte, those two like
those who are definitely memorable, but they're time right Ryan Lockty.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
But but Ryan Lockty. I got to know Michael Phelps
a little bit last year. I did an event with him.
He was amazing, Like it's just amazing kind of the
transformation of him. I heard him speak, he was he
was great. But yeah, I mean, you talk about one
of the biggest, one of the most popular, fascinating athletes
in the planet and people saw him what was it
(40:58):
was it twelve three three different times for like two
weeks and then never saw him perform ever again, and
yet it's still resonated. It's kind of an amazing thing.
It's the art of the Olympic Games in which we
care about things we don't ever care about what's amazing
about the Olympics now is you know now we used
to care because well we used to you know, our
(41:19):
rivals worldwide, where our rivals in the Olympic Games right
seventy two and in the eighty Winter Olympics was against
the Russians. Now because the Russians and most sports have
been exposed as frauds, and because our enemies now don't
exactly field the greatest Olympic Olympic teams.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
Does North Korea have a biathlon in the team?
Speaker 1 (41:44):
They do not they have a basketball team, or like
soccer is not not at anyone's level, not that our
soccer team's great or you know, any of the things
that we're good at. Yeah, I'm fascinated by the by
the Olympic thing. And I agree with you, Jason, And
that's something you'll never hear me do. I'm not going
to profess to be an expert on anything. Anything.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Well, the gymnastics are so huge, especially with the women,
like there's you almost have to have Like I remember
your most one of your most resonating takes was your
take of someone Bios when she bailed. So it's going
to be like one of those things again, like those
kind of transcendent topics. But do not try to tell
(42:27):
me that you are into the Olympic trials and timing.
And this is the key term I remember in the
London Games was that the London pool was a slower
pool than the Beijing pool. I remember that takeaway. I
remember somebody had that take I'm like, how do you
know what makes water slower? What does that even mean?
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Nick Cope? You have takes on Olympic swimming, don't you.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
I was thinking just the excitement with swimming.
Speaker 7 (42:56):
I wonder how much of that is from Rowdy Gains
because as long as I've been alive and watch, I mean,
he's just yelling through his microphone and excitement and he's
been doing it for a long time, and so I
feel like Rowdy Gaines is probably paid a little bit
of a part of that was swimming too.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Are you familiar with Rowdy Gaines.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
I am familiar Roddy Gains.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah, I'm not so that you just saying that is
he's the guy that does a lot of that. He'll
be the color commented.
Speaker 6 (43:22):
He was.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
He was a.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Very good I don't think he was ever the best
swimmer in the world, but one of the he was
a gold medalist I believe, Yeah, eighty four and great name, right,
that's one of those things where great name. Yeah, if
his name was like Stan Gaines, probably doesn't have nearly
as good as a broadcast.
Speaker 7 (43:41):
Well, his his real name is Ambrose, Ambrose Gains the fourth.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Ambrose is a solid that's a solid name. That's definitely
obviously with the fourth. It's a family name, right, it's
Tradish but I I think but the nickname of Rowdy
like that one resonates also because you know he was
still popular back when Rowdy Roddy Piper was dominating WWE.
Any man who can go in front of ninety three
(44:05):
thousand people at the Silver Dome in a kilt, I'm
all four, so yeah, and know it's not the same
I know it's not the same guy who swam. I
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I want to start with something that I actually really
relate to in my current position, and by position, I
(01:12):
don't mean seated in my office. No, that's not it.
My current position is a head basketball coach of a
Division one men's team, and we have what do we
have currently on our roster, and we got a lot
of dudes. I think it's sixteen dudes, and we're going
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to end up with eighteen dudes. You can have thirteen scholarships,
you can have other non scholarships. We came walk ons,
non scholarship players. And I want to relate it to
something that is being said about USA basketball that is
both right and wrong at the same time. So if
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you've watched it all in any of these games, and
by games, I mean exhibition games, you would know that
Joel Embiid looks like he hasn't played basketball maybe ever
in his life, right. He's just this just does not
look like he's sharp, does not look like he's in shape,
(02:16):
does not look locked in with the rest of the team.
For a guy who's been an NBA MVP and called
by yours truly to be the most talented big man
the game has ever seen, he's looked anything but so far.
But I know this from coaching in a similar and
(02:40):
dissimilar tournament, and I know that from preparing for an
upcoming season. It's that everything you see now looks like
it's going to be international basketball in the Olympics smells feels,
the names on the jerseys, the way in which it's officiates,
(03:00):
the basketball is the same. It is not the same.
And there have been many people, many people who have
said on on social media, whatever, and on media and
right here on Fox Sports Radio that Anthony Davis is
better with the starting group, should be playing at center.
(03:23):
He should be the starting center. He's the guy, he
moves better, he's in better shape, he spaces out the
floor bearer, YadA, YadA, YadA. Anthony Davis should be the
starting center with USA basketball. And based upon how they've played,
and I haven't seen practice, but I'm guessing you're probably right.
But this isn't about beaten Serbia yesterday. It's not about
(03:44):
beating Australia previously. It's not about any of that, not
about beating Canada previous to that. Well, they beat they
could show up hungover, everyone plays left handed, and they
would beat Sudan to win a gold medal. If you've
watched when USA basketball has struggled, he what international competition
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and international rules allow is a much more traditional center.
You can play old school zone defense, and oftentimes we
have big guys that just get worn out. I mean,
it's the whole reason, the whole reason that we push
for Joel Embiid to naturalize, so we have a legit,
(04:32):
legit NBA center who's fantastic when he's in shape, and
though you may not need him now, and though he
may not look like he belongs now, he will. And
Anthony Davis or bam out of Bayo even go back
and look at the last Olympics, like bam out of
Bayo did not have a great Olympics. And one of
(04:53):
the things he struggled with is kind of old school,
big old big men who lean into you. Because a
skill set it takes to play NBA basketball. You got
to play out on the pruiter. You gotta be able
to block shots. But coming from outside the lane, your
teams are playing five out, you got it, You're playing
in the drop, You're doing all these things. Whereas it's
(05:13):
a different skill set required to play in the Olympics.
It's a it. It looks the same, it feels the same,
it sends the same, but it's not the same. I mean, look,
it's the same reason at least on a micro level,
on somebody that you don't want Jalen Brown and you
you do want, you know a Derek White, because you
(05:37):
need guys that can shoot, that are bigger and can
guard bigger guards, and that can space and don't need
the basketball. You need big guys who can score and
defend at the block like it was nineteen ninety two
when it's Pat Ewing. We weren't trying to wear you
out down there. That's the reality to it. So you're
(05:59):
right if you say that, right now, by your own eyes,
Anthony Davis is is playing better. It looks like he's
in better shape. You're right, But you're wrong if you
think that Steve Kerr and the brain trust of USA
basketball is making a mistake by continuing to throw Joel
(06:22):
Embiid out there. They're not playing for this week. They're
not playing for next week. They're playing for three or
three weeks from now or so when they're playing for
Olympic gold medal, and they have to have a big
guy who can score at the block and stop somebody
at the block. And that is not naming Anthony Davis.
He does not want to play center. That is not
named Bam out of Bayu who he's just not big
(06:43):
and thick enough, and they cannot score at the low block.
And it's one of those things that you gotta understand.
You gotta take my word for it that international basketball
is different and that you have to believe in at
some point, Joel Beid's gonna win you a game. Joel
Ebid is going to win you a game. And I
(07:04):
know this because again, I've coached an international competition. I've
had these exact same conversations with a basketball staff. It's different,
but it's the same, and it's what it takes you
to win some games before you play in that tournament,
because when you get there, USA Basketball gets no calls.
We're not used to playing that style of officiating where
(07:25):
everybody's biggest game. And oh yeah, by the way, the
one thing that they do that we cannot do is
they we just don't teach low post play anymore because
of the way it's officiating the NBA, the way it's
officiating college, and we want our big guys to be
screeners rollers throw it to the rim. That doesn't that's
not how it's played international basketball. So you can be
(07:48):
right about how Anthony Davis looks in comparison to Joel Embiid.
You can be critical of Joe Embiid. What you can't
do is. I don't believe you can use this, make
this critique and blow it up to meaning something bigger.
In terms of his NBA career, It's a different sport,
a different style. Here's Colin Cowher earlier today on Joel Embiid.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
My eyes did not tell me that Westbrook was an
MVP and Carmelo was an absolutely dominant player, or Derreck
Rose was going to run the league, and my eyes
are telling me the same for years. With Joel Embiid.
I'm not denying he's got a shack feel to him.
But Shaq won in the playoffs. Shaq was dominant when
(08:30):
it mannered. I'm watching this Olympics stuff and Beid gets
in the way of the offense. Anthony Davis doesn't. Hell.
Anthony Davis took two shots yesterday and was the second
most dominating player in the game to Steph Curry. He
is literally jumps off the television set. And here's the
thing I like about AD and we've seen this for
years in Los Angeles. He can be a star and
dominated game, but he's also an incredibly complementary player. He
(08:55):
elevates Lebron. Lebron doesn't have to worry about defending the rim.
He can be a complementary player on this Olympic team,
or he can dominate moments. With Embiid, there is no
complementary to his game. He forces you to play his style,
and so does Steph Curry. But I get four titles,
and so did Lebron. But I got eight straight finals
(09:19):
with Embiid. He forces you to play his game, but
I don't get the payoff at the end of the season.
He gets in the way of the Olympic offense. And
I find sometimes watching Philadelphia. Yes, he's productive, so was
Zach Levine, and the Bulls can't give him away. If
you're talking about the greatest bigs of all time. Russell titles,
(09:39):
Kareem titles, Shack titles, a game titles. Embiid can't win
a second round playoff series in the weaker.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Conference, Well, the couple lots to unpacked. There Again, Colin
is conflating what he's seeing in exhibition games with Team
USA to what's happened what happened with the Philadelphia seventy
six ers. It's a different sport, it's a different composition,
and frankly, my guess would be when Joel Embiid lost
(10:10):
in the playoffs and he had a bit of an
e issue. It feels like he he didn't touch basketball
for a month or two, so it feels like and
by the way, Shaq would be like that. And just
so we're aware, if we remember, Okay, Shaquille O'Neill was
not on the Dream Team. He was on the second
and then the third like dream team whatever. That was
an abject disaster. He was actually an awful international player.
(10:35):
Go back and look was not good. And yeah, Shaq
won in the playoffs. He won when he had Kobe Bryant.
Kobe carried them and then oftentimes in the finals Shaq
would have a massive mismatch. But I'm not trying to
dimin a shack. He was dominateting. But he's different than
Joel Embiid. Different And if the East is a weaker conference,
to why the Celtics just win going away? Granted they
(10:57):
didn't play the top team in the West, but how
good was the actual West top? But the bigger point
is now, he's not wrong that the ball everything flows
better with Anthony Davis. He's not wrong that Embiid feels
a little clunky right now.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Not wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
But you have to have a vision of what it's
going to look like when they get to the semi
finals and the gold medal game. And anyone who's watched
the Olympics and USA Basketball, they've done this things through
the embarrassment of the World Cup, the last Olympics when
they survived because Kevin Durant and I guarantee what they're
thinking right now is we got to have a legit,
(11:36):
big dude. We got to have Joel Embiid in shape,
and sitting him over there because Anthony Davis is playing
better now doesn't help us get him in game shape
for two three weeks from now. And we have the
same conversations in college basketball. What it looks like now
in the summer when we let him play is not
what it's going to look like when we get to
December eleventh and I play our rival UW Milwaukee in
(11:59):
our home in our home arena. That's the challenge of
coaching is understanding what's ahead of you and that oftentimes,
either in practice or exhibition games, it's not going to
look the same once you get to the real heart
of competition. People saying that Joel Embiid should be pulled
(12:20):
from Starry Lamp should barely be played. He looks like
crap or whatever. Aren't seeing the bigger picture. I think
Steve Kurr and Grant Hill are.
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Speaker 5 (13:01):
So also it was on he had new Heart, Yeah,
his own show, and he's also in like the Simpsons.
He had Camra very funny guy, very dry sense of humor.
Great life he was.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
He was I think most famous for the one person
conversation when he was a stand up comedian. I know
my dad had cassettes and he had LPs of some
of the great comedians, Richard Pryor, which is I mean
just hysterical. But but Bob Newhart as well and Bob Newhart.
(13:32):
Would it would it would? It would be as if
you were listening to me on the phone talk to
somebody else like that. That was like the one person conversation,
if you will, and I mean just a riot. And
then of course New Heart. I think the most famous
part about New Heart the TV show was one of
the characters, I'm Darryl. This my brother Darryl. I my
(13:53):
other brother Darryl. Say Hi Darryl, A Jay dude?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You or you?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Were? You a New Heart guy? At all?
Speaker 6 (14:00):
I was?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I was.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
His particular style of humor is right at my alley. Correct.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Honestly, that's been. There have been times in which I
have thought you were doing a New Heart in a
way in which you cracked me up.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
He just he never gave away the joke. If you
weren't smart enough to pick up on his humor, that
was on you. I love those kind of comics.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, he's absolutely absolutely brilliant man, brilliant man. I was
thinking about this, it's, uh, what are we at July?
What day? Stay eighteenth? Isn't it fascinating that last July eighteenth?
If I would have mentioned the name Jordan Love, What
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do you think your reaction would have been right because
at the time, Jordan Love, remember, was the guy who
basically the Packers had chased Aaron Rodgers away or upset
Aaron Rodgers. All depends upon, you know, I don't know
whose side you were on or how they handle it
or whatever. But we had people, talented television people, very
(15:07):
few football analysts, but mostly yackers who said he can't play.
They didn't say he's not great, he's not good, he's
not top ten, he's not top fifteen. They were people
who said he can't play. He's not an NFL caliber
starting quarterback. That was one year ago, right, If I
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were to reracket, and my whole thought was like, hey,
let's see how this thing plays out. My entire thought
when he was drafted, we have the tape to prove it.
My entire thought was like I totally understood when he
was drafted. It was coming off of Aaron Rodgers having
a disappointing year. He was a project guy. He'd had
two years in college, one where he was good, one
(15:50):
where he wasn't very good. He went through a ton
of personal stuff going back to when he was in
middle school, high school's dad. Of course, everybody knows was
a cop committed suicide, so there was a lot there
to unpack, and he was. He was potentially a top ten,
top fifteen prospect, but the Packers would never draft in
that spot, so they took a flyer on him because
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they knew that Aaron Rodgers thing eventually would come to
an end. And last year, this time, you guys tell
me if I'm wrong. Most people thought he couldn't play,
and here we are now where the Packers seem to
found their quarterback in the future. Most people think that
in the coming days before they have camp starting Monday
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in Green Bay, that he'll sign a new deal an extension.
I think he makes like eight million dollars this year,
which again that was an extension to his rookie contract
eight million dollars. Warren Sharp joins us. He's an expert
in predictive NFL analytics, the founder of Sharp Footballanalysis dot com. Warren,
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if I was to ask you what Sharpfootballanalysis dot Com
thought of Jordan Love last year, this time, the entry, Oh.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Well, that's a good question. I think coming off of
the season that we saw out of Aaron Rodgers, and
in terms of predicting what we might get out of
the twenty twenty three Green Bay Packers. I was on
there over I want to say they were at seven
and a half wins. So the overall expectation in terms
of like what you are suggesting is absolutely accurate. The
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league as a whole, the betting markets did not think
that we would get a Jordan Love season like we saw.
I believe that their win total was only seven and
a half wins. I did not think they would win
first place in their division, the NFC North, but I
thought they would exceed their expectations. At seven and a half,
I thought there was room for growth. I thought that
there would not be that much of a drop off
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twenty twenty three Jordan Love versus twenty twenty two Aaron Rodgers,
because twenty twenty two Aaron Rodgers was extremely bad. But
Jordan Love did a lot of things this past season
that I don't think anybody could see possible, anybody would
have predicted. And in addition, there are some things that
like just are not going to improve in twenty twenty
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four over what he was doing last year in twenty
twenty three. For example, I'll just share this one simple
statistic goal to go situations last year, Jordan Love was
the number one best quarterback in goal to go situations,
in success rate, in touchdown rate in EPA. For pass attempts,
he threw the number five most touchdown of any quarterback
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in goal to go situations while delivering the best efficiency
in those situations. You're not going to do any better
than that this upcoming year. So I think Jordan Love
obviously exceeded expectations last season. But I'm just I'm really
curious what this assent is going to be. I hope
it's great. I want excellent quarterbacks throughout the league, but
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there was a lot of things that really went well
for him last year that I'm just not sure that
we're going to see a huge jump in twenty twenty
four over what he was delivering last season.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, it's gonna be fascinating to see what happens now.
Look in fairness, okay, I don't know. If they win
the division, if Kirk Cousins doesn't get hurt right like that,
they may look very very different. On the other hand,
you know, they are a player two away, a made
field goal away from beating the San Francisco forty nine
ers and going to Super Bowl so there's a or
potentially going to Super Bowl, So there's a lot to unpack.
(19:24):
I brought him up because who do you think is
this year's Jordan Love? Where we don't really know, right,
we don't really really know and it's an important year.
Is there one quarterback you can think of who is
this year's Jordan Look doesn't mean they have the success
in first and goal to go and overall success of
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a Jordan Love, but is in a similar predicament in
terms of we just don't have enough data, but this
is going to be a telling year.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Well that's a really tough question for me because I
don't think that there is somebody who. I mean, Jordan
Love was in such a unique situation where he had
the ability to sit and not play for several years
and when he was injected into the offense that the
one key thing that really helped Jordan Love, let's be honest,
was that offensive line. They're one of the best young
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offensive lines in the NFL that could protect for him,
and so he had that ceiling. So what you're looking
for is somebody who is probably is not a rookie
who's got the maturity and the experience, even though He
hasn't had playing experience. He just had the experience of
working within a system, working within the same offense for
several years, and is going to be pass protected with
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one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. I'm
looking around the league right now at all the teams,
I just don't see another player like that out there.
There are some players that are obviously really good quarterbacks
that have done nothing with their time in the league,
and one of them would be like a Justin Herbert,
where Justin Herbert, I don't think his weapons this year
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are going to help him excel and really reach his zenith.
But I do think that Justin Herbert is better even
than what we've seen the last couple of years. If
you just look at what he's been delivering, he's been
playing behind one of the most injured offensive lines in
the NFL. If you look back at how frequently Mike
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Williams and or Keenan Allen were actually healthy, because they're
not there this year. Both of them are gone this year.
But those guys, I think over the last two years,
that's out of thirty four combined games they've actually played
on the field and been healthy for six of those
games together. They really have not been there and dependable.
Now they've got a new head coach there, they've got
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a new philosophy. They're going to be running the football
a lot more, which should open up things when they
do end up passing the football. But I just think
that their general manager gutted that receiving corps and they
do not have any good receivers. I do not like
their number one receiver. He's the second year player.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Is his name?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
I'm forgingna now, Quentin Johnston not a TCU didn't really
like him coming into the league. Relying on him as
your number one, I don't think it's going to get
you very far. But he's a guy who could potentially
if there were things around him, if that receiving class
improved a lot. You know, Justin Herbert's a guy who
I would throw into that group. But I don't think
there's anybody like a Jordan Love this year, honestly.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, but please don't mention that name. We're just so,
you know, myself and Jason Stewart are Charger fans. So
when you say Quentin Johnson, we get that, you know,
that little taste of barf in your mouth. We kind
of get that thing. That thing going a little bit
too much. Although Lad McConkey I think is going to
have a nice litt run and everybody likes Josh Palmer
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thinks he can be on right. But again, they're going
to do I mean, this is going to be the Ravens, right,
They're going to run the football. This is this is classic.
It worked in Buffalo, it worked in San Francisco, and
it worked in in Baltimore with the same offense coordinator.
We'll see if it works with the La Chargers. You
mentioned your thoughts on overs and unders. Who do you
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believe is the easiest to pick under? Who's the team
that Vegas or the number in Vegas is in love
with more so than you are.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Unfortunately, I don't think they're going to win by like
a whopping margin here. But I just think that Dallas
Cowboys are so fragile right now. The best thing that've
got going for them, in my opinion, is the simple
fact that Jason Kelsey is no longer the starting center
for the Philadelphia Aples, and so there's a lot of
questions as to how effective inefficient the toush Bush is
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going to be without them. But Apart from that, everybody
in that division has gotten better, and I don't think
the Dallas Cowboys have. I think the Dallas Cowboys have
progressed and gotten a little bit worse. We tend to
overlook we focus so much on the offensive side of
the football, whether that's because of fantasy football or because
the quarterback contract values is things of that nature, but
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we don't focus as much on defense as we should.
And the Dallas Cowboys for three consecutive years have had
such a good defense that their turnover margin has been
positive double digits for each of the last three years
their overall turnover margin and only eight teams in the
last two decades have delivered three consecutive years where their
team has been double digit to the positive and turnover margin.
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None of those teams that Dallas Cowboys were one of
them in twenty one, twenty two to twenty three. None
of those teams we're able to deliver four consecutive years
with plus ten or more total turnover margin, and most
of them average plus four the very next year. If
you take away six turnover margin, this team is losing
easily three more games. I mean, it's turnover margin is
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so predictive of game outcomes that if you take those away,
there's no way that they're going to have a season
like they did last year. And then let's also remember
that they lost their defensive coordinator who was really responsible
for that scheme and that aggressive attacking ability. They had
I believe five return touchdowns last season. That's hard to repeat.
That's probably unlikely to happen. And all those guys now
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went to d C, right, and so that's a competitor
of yours. DC's got a new quarterback, Daniel Jones, probably
hopefully is going to be healthy this season. And I
think the Philadelphia Eagles replacing their coordinators, it's going to
make a big difference for this team. I think last year,
people forget the Philadelphi Egos. Last year started ten and one,
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which is identical to what they started in twenty twenty
two when they went to the super Bowl. But that
Eagles team last year was not even close to the
twenty twenty two team because of their style on offense,
because of that offensive coordinator. They replaced, their offensive coordinator,
they replace the defense cordnat. I think this team is
going to be more aggressive, get out to leads earlier
in games. I think that they're more well rounded than
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the Dallas Cowboys, So you know, I think the Cowboys
moved back a little bit. They won first place in
that NFC East last last year. I think they win
second place at best this year. I think the Eagles
are going to go over their win total. I think
the Eagles are going to win that division. I think
the Cowboys go under their win total. I think the
Cowboys finished second.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
In the nfcast Steg Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports, Trady
Warren Sharp is our guest. He's an expert in predictive
NFL analytics, founder of Sharp Football Analysis dot com. Okay,
last year felt like the worst possible supporting cast offensively
for the now defending Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs.
What does your predictive analysis say about the chief season
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this year?
Speaker 6 (26:36):
The only thing that's difficult for the Chiefs this year
is just their overall strength to schedule, which you would
expect when you win that division, When you win that
conference and you're the best team from a Super Bowl perspective,
you have to play that first place schedule, and so
their schedule overall is the twelfth most difficult. But this team.
They lost a couple of pieces defensively, but I think
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they're going to be offensively which can compensate for that.
This team did so many things that weren't perfect last season.
They threw so many passes behind the line of scrimmage.
They were not an aggressive downfield passing attack. You know
two years ago when they won the Super Bowl in
twenty twenty two. This is a team that had sort
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of quote unquote solved the two high safety defenses that
they started throwing at them, and oh my gosh, it's
taking away the deep stuff. What are offenses going to do?
The Chiefs had figured it out a little bit in
twenty twenty two, but in twenty twenty three, they did
not have the confidence in their receiving corps. They did
not have the expertise there to really solve that, to
really punch back, and so they struggled in against Cover two.
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Unlike in twenty twenty two. I think they're going to
be better suited to deal with it this upcoming season.
The long question you really have here is just how
long is Travis Kelsey going to be healthy for They
did a smart thing last year where they pulled him
off the field pretty predictively on so that he did
not have to waste his snaps run blocking quite as much.
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So he was mostly out there when they were passing
the football to take advantage of what he could deliver.
But they're going to need to lean more on some
of the other guys because it's one thing for him
to run as many routes as he's running, but if
he's actually going to be targeted at that same rate,
that requires the stress of catching the football and then
running after that, cast being tackled and being dragged to
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the ground, all things that you don't have to do
if they simply target a secondary weapon there. And I
think getting Marquise Brown in there is definitely going to
be very interesting. Marquis Brown has never been in the
past first offense. Keep this in mind, he played under
Greg Roman's scheme we talked about him earlier in Baltimore.
Then he's playing in Arizona last year, which had a
league average rate with some really bad quarterbacks. Now he's
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going to hind the city one of the highest pass
rates of any team in the NFL, and he's playing
with the best quarterback in the NFL. His involvement here
is going to look much different, and then of course
you've got a fever Worthy the speed demon on the outside.
So I think there's a lot more that the Chiefs
are going to be able to throw at teams, and
I think it's an X factor, a hidden weapon that
they still get to retain Steve Spagnola. I mean, the
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fact that Spags has been delivering at such a high
rate and hasn't been poached by another team is absolutely
ridiculous and is a massive edge for the Kansasity Chiefs
because he's just so good at those big game situations,
at crafting a defensive scheme that can slow down your
opposing offense.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Awesome stuff, Warren, You're the best man. I'd love to
have you on as often as possible. By the way,
if you like this stuff, then you got to go
to his site, Warren Sharp Sharp Analytics. It's the best.
Thanks so much for really wetting our appetite if you
get ready for training camp to get in a way
and being our guest on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Absolutely thanks having dev He's.
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So the Olympics are upon us, right.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
And.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
It's weird Like in nineteen eighty four, I was eight
years old and the Olympics came to Los Angeles and
I've heard people say, like Lebron say like, well, I'm
gooding out of LA when the Olympics come. Okay, well
I understand that Lebron has played in the Olympics, but
I gotta tell you it's kind of awesome. Now. I
(32:41):
know there's certain things they're doing. I think they're doing
They're doing the softball in Oklahoma, right, and are they
doing the rowing there as well? Like I know, it's
going to be spread out, it's not gonna be as
centralized as it was in eighty four, but there is
something really cool about the world's greatest athletes, all competing,
all coming together in one place, and the chance to
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go see sports you never thought you could see ever again.
Like I remember we saw the Olympic basketball team play
in eighty four. That was Michael Jordan. They had an
exhibition game at cal State Fullarton, which, of course cal
State Fullarton is known basically for three things. Great baseball. Hey,
Phil Nevin, my great baseball. They used to have a
football team, great baseball Bruce Bowen and Leon Wood probably
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was a member of the Olympic team in eighty four.
And it's also the alma mater of Jason Stewart, right,
I mean that's actually is there a statue or just
a plaque out front Jay stew it's.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
A copy of my GPA. So you can go on
campus and see a plaque of one point nine to three.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Love it anyway. So if you went to what's now
the Home Depot Center, did the Galaxy still play there?
The Chargers used to play there. That used to be
the velodrome that used to be where the bike racing
was in eighty four and I remember going to it,
and if you've ever seen the I think it's a velodrome, right,
(34:08):
if you ever see it, like that thing is insane,
the pitch and the angle that they raise spikes at.
So there's a lot of cool Olympics. The people that
like want to get out of town like whatever, goodbye. Uh,
there's just they'll do it. They did a great job
in eighty four with the traffic. Obviously, Los Angeles is
exponentially bigger. Traffic is exponentially worse, but I'm guessing that
(34:30):
they'll do some of the similar things they did and
so many people were from home. Now they can continue that.
But I was thinking about swimming. That's going to be
it's so fi And I'm thinking about the Olympics that
are coming up in Paris. And look, I'm not a
huge fan of the Olympics. Now I would still go
and watch, but like this year, part of it is
(34:51):
anything that's really on in a different time zone I
struggle with I'm not the ugly American. I just kind
of struggle with it. So I'm sitting here and I'm
thinking to myself self, is there any more Olympic sports?
Any more Olympic sports than swimming? And by swimming, I
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mean and swimming is brilliant, right, because if you ask somebody, honestly,
I'm gonna list all these sports, where does this one rank?
You would put like swimming pretty low. But they they
almost always have it. I think they always have it.
Like in the first week of competition, and let's be honest,
we all get Olympic fatigue. You know, by the time
(35:35):
you get to the second or third week and they're
doing track and field, They're like, oh, this thing still on,
but in the first week you have almost always swimming,
and swimming only really works in the Olympics because well,
nobody cares otherwise, Like, can anyone name any other And
(35:56):
this is not to the swimming community, but to anyone
outside of the swimming can can anyone name anybody that
races for USA swimming? Have you ever watched the swim
meet outside the Olympics ever? And yet during the Olympics,
from Mark Spitz to Michael Phelps to Katy Ldecki to
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everybody in between, Like these names become synonymous with American sports,
not just Olympics. And oh yeah, by the way, it
only works because of the video presentation of swimming. Otherwise,
like and just people racing in a pool. I don't
know who's who, but they do such a good job
of like you know that little arrow that comes down
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with the timing and the world record and then they
touch the wall and all of that stuff. I think
it's the most Olympic sport ever. And by that I
mean it's literally only important every four years. It's only
good because it's on TV. None of these people matter
in mainstream sports world, in the main stream world forever
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except for during the week and a half or two
weeks in which their events take place, and yet for
that week and a half, it is literally the biggest
thing on the planet. That's my presentation of facts, chasing
Stewart your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I think it's perfect. It's a because I'm everyone pays
attention to it times one thousand in that first week
of the Olympics. You're right the first week, because the
first week of the two weeks is swimming. The second
week is track and field. If I'm not mistaken, but
you're right, swimming is is like the I guess what
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is the perfect example of an Olympic sport and that
everyone cares a lot. And then then the annoying part
of our industry is that you get talk show hosts
that act like they know a lot about it. Yeah,
for a couple of days, and then it goes away.
I can think of a couple of hosts on this network.
I think that they're going to have a lot of
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swimming takes and then disappear for four years. But you're right,
You're right. And by the way, Amy van Dykin was
I want to say a gold medalist, or at the
very least an Olympic swimmer who had a really bad accident,
and she is an alum of Fox Sports Radio. She
hosted a show with Rob Dibble nightly. I don't know
(38:23):
ten to fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Tibbs Dibbs, Sam, are you an Olympic?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Not?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Kind of sear you Olympic? You consume the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
I only have red hot takes over the biathlon.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
It's winter? Is that running and shooting steeple chase?
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Maybe it's the Uh, it's where you like cross country
ski and then you stop and you have this weird
looking twenty two caliber rifle and you get down on
your on your chest and you fire at a target.
Then you get up and you continue.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
To cross basically GTA right, It's it's.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
An interesting sport. Is that not a winter sport?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
It is?
Speaker 5 (39:02):
It's a winter sport. So I'm more into the Winter Olympics,
uh than the Summer Olympics.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Uh is it?
Speaker 5 (39:09):
Where is it as a Paris? So it's gonna be
like on yeah, like different hours, tape delay, whatever it's
going to be. I'll catch a little bit of it.
Summer Olympics not so much into, but Olympics in general
not so much into I think I tend to favor
the Winter Olympics.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
It's basically GTA before GTA, right, basically GTA without shooting
actual people or punching out people and robbing them right
where you're running in your shooting and you're running in
your shooting.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
I have I don't, I could be. I'm sure, I'm right.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
How do we not dominate in that? I mean, just
it feels like we should be completely dominant in the run.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
Where did that sport? Did it come from? Like Russia
where they'd like cross country ski and like hunt at
the same time, and they're like, I can cover a
lot of land and I'll carry my gun.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
So they have in the Winter Olympics too, where you're
actually like skiing, right, is that is it the same
is the biathon?
Speaker 5 (39:52):
It is a Winter Olympics.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
It's only window. Yeah, I didn't know if there was
a there was a summer version.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
I like this ski well that'd be yeah, I don't know,
you could use how about rollerblading? Shooting a gun? I like, uh,
I like skiing as well. In the Winter Olympics. Yeah,
in the cross countries, like you know, Usain Bolt captivated
us all. I mean, like he was one of, you know,
one of the one fastest, Like look the the so
he was watch him.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Right track and field. You're talking about the fastest human
beings on earth.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Shakari Richardson's pretty cool. She draws a lot of eyeballs
and uh so, yeah, I mean I'll probably catch that
some some of that stuff. The swimming, you know, since
Michael Phelps and what was that kind of the the
the Mimbo guy, uh the Ryan Lochte, those two like
those who are definitely memorable, but they're time right Ryan Lockty.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
But but Ryan Lockty. I got to know Michael Phelps
a little bit last year. I did an event with him.
He was amazing, Like it's just amazing kind of the
transformation of him. I heard him speak, he was he
was great. But yeah, I mean, you talk about one
of the biggest, one of the most popular, fascinating athletes
in the planet and people saw him what was it
(40:58):
was it twelve three three different times for like two
weeks and then never saw him perform ever again, and
yet it's still resonated. It's kind of an amazing thing.
It's the art of the Olympic Games in which we
care about things we don't ever care about what's amazing
about the Olympics now is you know now we used
to care because well we used to you know, our
(41:19):
rivals worldwide, where our rivals in the Olympic Games right
seventy two and in the eighty Winter Olympics was against
the Russians. Now because the Russians and most sports have
been exposed as frauds, and because our enemies now don't
exactly field the greatest Olympic Olympic teams.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
Does North Korea have a biathlon in the team?
Speaker 1 (41:44):
They do not they have a basketball team, or like
soccer is not not at anyone's level, not that our
soccer team's great or you know, any of the things
that we're good at. Yeah, I'm fascinated by the by
the Olympic thing. And I agree with you, Jason, And
that's something you'll never hear me do. I'm not going
to profess to be an expert on anything. Anything.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Well, the gymnastics are so huge, especially with the women,
like there's you almost have to have Like I remember
your most one of your most resonating takes was your
take of someone Bios when she bailed. So it's going
to be like one of those things again, like those
kind of transcendent topics. But do not try to tell
(42:27):
me that you are into the Olympic trials and timing.
And this is the key term I remember in the
London Games was that the London pool was a slower
pool than the Beijing pool. I remember that takeaway. I
remember somebody had that take I'm like, how do you
know what makes water slower? What does that even mean?
(42:49):
Nick Cope? You have takes on Olympic swimming, don't you.
Speaker 5 (42:52):
I was thinking just the excitement with swimming.
Speaker 7 (42:56):
I wonder how much of that is from Rowdy Gains
because as long as I've been alive and watch, I mean,
he's just yelling through his microphone and excitement and he's
been doing it for a long time, and so I
feel like Rowdy Gaines is probably paid a little bit
of a part of that was swimming too.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Are you familiar with Rowdy Gaines.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
I am familiar Roddy Gains.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah, I'm not so that you just saying that is
he's the guy that does a lot of that. He'll
be the color commented.
Speaker 6 (43:22):
He was.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
He was a.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Very good I don't think he was ever the best
swimmer in the world, but one of the he was
a gold medalist I believe, Yeah, eighty four and great name, right,
that's one of those things where great name. Yeah, if
his name was like Stan Gaines, probably doesn't have nearly
as good as a broadcast.
Speaker 7 (43:41):
Well, his his real name is Ambrose, Ambrose Gains the fourth.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Ambrose is a solid that's a solid name. That's definitely
obviously with the fourth. It's a family name, right, it's
Tradish but I I think but the nickname of Rowdy
like that one resonates also because you know he was
still popular back when Rowdy Roddy Piper was dominating WWE.
Any man who can go in front of ninety three
(44:05):
thousand people at the Silver Dome in a kilt, I'm
all four, so yeah, and know it's not the same
I know it's not the same guy who swam. I
know they're different people. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show
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