August 7, 2024 • 49 mins
On a Wednesday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug weighs in on the Steelers' quarterback situation. Doug and crew get into why women's basketball is not garnered any interest in the Olympics.
Doug welcomes former pro-bowl defensive back Donte Whitner on to give his thoughts on the Brandon Aiyuk situation, the Bears and all of the other major headlines around the NFL.
In this edition of "The Midway" Doug and the crew share their favorite moments from these Olympics.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR interesting. Justin Fiald
is going to get the first start for the Steelers
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in their preseason that because Russell Wilson's nursing a bad
calf muscle. Here's Mike Tomlin when he's asked about fields
and his competition.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I think he just comes to compete every day. He's
got an awesome competitive spirit. We got a competitive environment,
and it seems like he's enjoying it. He's doing a
really good job of accle who made it himself to
it and his teammates and letting his talent show. I
think everything is an audition. Everything that we do is
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an audition, not only for him, but for others.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I still don't buy that he's gonna be their starting
quarterback day one, or that it's even close, but I
could be wrong. Remember, the entire league had a chance
to Justin Field's making very little to no money this year,
with not much in terms of trade value, and they
all passed. Now, that doesn't mean that the entire league
can't be dopes, can't be idiots, but they saw something
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or know something about Justin Fields, the quarterback that the
Steelers are trying to act like he maybe is overcome.
I don't buy that. I just don't. And it goes
again goes back to what we said about Jalen Hurts.
Jalen Hurst doesn't go from a guy you're like, yeah,
I don't know, they might want to move on to
the greatest quarterback we've ever seen. Justin Fields doesn't go
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from a yeah, Bears need to get a new quarterback.
He can't really throw a football to oh my gosh,
he's gonna beat out Russell Wilson. So I think, you know,
the name gets us excited, the fact that he was
a first round pick, a great player at Ohio State,
and a guy who had some moments with the Bears.
The reality is he has had the time to fix
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all of his flaws. So if you think that the
Steelers think he has, I think we're taking the bait
on that one. I think we're taking the bait Stuck
Gotib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, So if
you are, you know, Stuck Gottleib Show here on Fox
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Sports Radio, unless you're hitting under rock. You knew the
NCAA was investigating Michigan, but you probably thought they were
just investigating Michigan for stealing signs. The NCAA announced today
a four year show cause for Michigan for Michigan head
coach Jim Harbaugh for in permissible contact with recruits and
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players while access was restricted during COVID nineteen pandemic, effectively
banning him from college athletics and August of twenty twenty four,
the nca said that Harball, who left his all moder
as coach of the LA Chargers after last seasons championship game,
engaged in unethical contact, failed to promote an atmosphere of compliance,
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and violated head coaching responsibility obligations. The NCAA already put
in Michigan on three years of probation along with a
fine for recruiting limits after reaching a negotiated resolution in
the case, Harball did not go along with the agreement,
disputing the allegations he failed to operate with investigators. His
case was handled separately. Yeah, I don't know. I look,
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I work for a university that has to abide by
NCAA rules. There are lots of NCAA rules that don't
make any any sense. I have long been a proponent
of the rules of the NCAA because, like, look, they
were voted on and approved on by a majority of
the schools. So you can fight to change it, but
don't break a rule and act like you're surprised. The
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COVID ones are a bit Darconian, no doubt. And if
we think back to COVID I understand that you look
at it now and you're like, that was ridiculous. That
was ridiculous. That was ridiculous. The realistic way of looking
at it, I believe is some of them were over
the top of many of them were meant with the
right spirit in mind that you didn't want to get
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people infected, that didn't mean to be infected to bring
it home to mom and dad or somebody who was communocompromiser.
God forbid your grandma and grandpa, and then it spreads
and it kills them. They have the right intention of
heart to not always the right execution but did you know,
and I learned this last week, I don't know, you
are not allowed to use exercise as punishment for a
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player performance was scholastically or otherwise. Do you guys know that?
In other words, if a player gets in trouble, right,
player gets in trouble, you can't run them or make
them do stadium steps or you know, we used to
do these workouts called twenty fives at Oaklham State that
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were just impossible to do. You're not technically you're not
allowed to do it. Now everyone I know violates that rule.
Now it's supposed to not as supposed to be a
standalone workout only for punishment. Right, there's a gray area
there within it and how you do it. The point
is so many rules, and one of the big rules
is you're responsible as head coach for everybody under your watch.
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Any Yeah, by the way, you got to completely disclose
what you do and why you do it, how you
do it, and give up your cell phone. And Jim
Harbaugh wasn't going to this is the Pete Carroll though
Pete Carroll member was s he was going on probation,
right is he left? And you're wondering if forever leave
and that was what caused him to leave. So harpball
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is never coming back to coach college anymore. Anyway, Why
would you You won a national championship game in your last game,
it was at your own monitor. You left in a
better place. You're good. But I don't think that he'd
be done fighting this one because I do believe Jim
is about his ethics. You may not agree with them,
but he's pretty strong in terms of what he believes
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in his ethics. The hard part is gonna be the
COVID stuff where you just weren't allowed to have contact
with people, and they did, and lots of programs did
and they got caught. They got caught. My take has
always been unless you're buying players, and this is before
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the world of nil and even now, like just I
just don't like it now. But buying players, I believe,
is different than compensating players, and compensating guys that have
established themselves and you know they do some appearances and whatever,
and there's a reasonable rate there. Like just giving a
kid money, especially back then before it was legal against
the rules, and doing anything to change somebody's grades or
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take the test for him. That's unethical those two things.
I got no problem with you getting fired for other stuff.
What are we doing, what are we doing? What are
we actually doing? So I you know, and this has
nothing to do, by the way, with sign stealings, So
there could be additional punishment, I guess for sign stealing.
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But like we're not allowing Jim Harbaugh to come to
a party that he was no longer going to come to.
Is like I already went to that Christmas party. I
don't need to go in again. Like oh yah, I'm fine,
You're you're suspended, you can't come anymore. Like I'm not
coming to your Christmas party. This is Jim Harbaugh's attorney,
Tom Mars. The way I see a Coach Harbaugh's respective
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today's COI decision is like being in your college and
getting a letter from your high school saying you've been
suspended because you didn't sign the yearbook. If I were
in Coach Harbaugh's shoes and had an eighty million dollar
contract of head coach of the Chargers, I wouldn't pay
any attention to the findings of a kangaroo court, which
claims to represent the principles of the nation's most flagrant
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repeat violators of antitrust laws. Yeah. I mean, look, Tom
Mars obviously clearly a lawyer, and he's dancing on the
grave of the NCAA. And I don't blame him. I
think a stronger statement would have been he is the
most ethical coach in college football. None of this has
anything to do with reality. But we made a bunch
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of money and you're a violator of anti trust laws.
I don't know. He just asked him to hammer Michigan harder.
Is that what you're doing? And there is a certain
sense of you can't win with the NCAA. I get it.
Mile Monter Oklaan State felt like with basketball they cooperated
fully and they still got taken out of the NCAA tournament.
Still happened. It's a Dog Gotlieb show here on Fox
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Sports Radio. So Jay stew I was wondering because this
was something I felt like was kind of right up
your alley, right is is how we're watching now and
the US women's national team is not drawing well or
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getting any attention, And I guess this is one of
those Do you think if they could do it all
over again, they would include Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I mean what's her face? What's the name of the
South Carolina's head coach, Don Staley. I think she admitted
as much last week. I don't know if she was
admitting that in the context of the lack of interest.
I think she was just admitting that somehow Caitlyn Clark
got a lot better as a player in the last
few weeks and it changed her mind. But now I'm
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on record, I think on this show at the very
weast I said it on the podcast, I'm rooting against
our woman. Like I'm I'm I don't care about this
women's basketball team. In fact, it'll make a much better
story if they lose to Nigeria today. I mean that
that's our lead tomorrow if they if they lose Nigeria
tips off here in a couple of minutes. I'm rooting
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against our team so that we could have great content tomorrow.
The I told you so, you wouldn't have lost with
Caitlyn Clark, or I told you so.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
This is why you don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I don't even know what they're the head coach's name is,
but she has shown she has shown such an arrogance
around the whole Kaitlin Clark.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Have you noticed though, and and like, look, I don't
think it's intentional. Yeah, I don't think NBC not paying
attention to it is intentional. It's just not interesting. It's
just not interesting. Correct And and you know they've done
this to themselves. They're still winning and they're still gonna
win the thing. They're still the best team, but they're
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not interesting anymore. There's nothing of that that's interesting. And
if if I'm sitting there and I'm in a production
meaning like, hey, do we want to talk to the
women's coach of yousa or do we want to talk
to the guy who the pole vaulter who hit his
junk on the pole? Like yeah, that guy.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I mean, I think it's hard to say that she's
not doing it on purpose, or that I don't know
who's not doing purpose or what's the name of the coach,
not Don Staley the other one that like, yes, she's doing.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
It on purpose. I'm saying, Oh, I'm saying I don't think.
I don't think NBC. Like if you notice that NBC,
NBC and Peacock which is NBC, they're not focused on
the women's national team, not having the players in studio
and I don't watch every moment, so I'm if I'm mistaken,
please tell me. But it's not a talking point, not
at all. I'm not talking about it at all. We're
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back to covering women's basketball the way it's always been covered,
where nobody really cares, nobody really pays attention. It doesn't
matter that we're better than everybody else, it's just what's
the There is no ratings boon from covering it, where
with the men, clearly there is.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
And I also think the men's is kind of not
being covered as much.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
But I agree with you there is a huge.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Gap between the women and the men, and it is interesting.
Would this be the case if Caitlin Clark was on
the team?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Of course not.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Yeah, it's right, there's a person.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So the Olympics are really more made for women. More
women viewers tune into the Olympics. It's not that men
don't watch the Olympics, but women watch a lot more
of the Olympics, and they're women that normally don't watch
sports on TV.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
I think that's the reason.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Is because there's more women participating in these sports, is
why more women watch? Yes, and no, I mean women
don't necessarily aren't necessarily drawn to sports with predominantly men
in them.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
There are female football fans out there, and.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You know, Sam, I think you're talking about something you
have absolutely no statistical background for other than a feeling
that you're.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Just wing it.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, you are, your eyeball. You can prove to because
because what happens is the reason.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
Again, Doug, when you go to NFL game, do you
think it's a majority men or women in there?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
It's definitely definitely a dude's sport, right, Okay, but but women,
But the female audience in football is growing substantially.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Sure, but it's definitely more men watching, like men watching me.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I understand. But like track and field, for example, the
men any Olympic sport, regardless of men and women, there
is a higher percentage of women watching as opposed to
how many women watch normal sports regardless to where as
men or otherwise. Okay, it just is that's just again,
we can we can kind of track the eptomology, emtomology, eptomology,
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the background of it, etymology. Yeah, if we want, like
for a different podcast or something like what causes That
was fine, okay, but the real again, the reality to
it is the Olympics are really more for female viewers.
They just are guys will watch, but women watch the
Olympics and they love them and they do love them
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for the females, for the women's stories. But also if
you look at the way that NBC has always broadcast
the Olympics, you know they have these short stories, they
tell people's backgrounds, you know, all this amazing stories of
triumph and comebacks and et cetera. Like again, that is
more how women watch sports. Men watch sports are like
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who can I bet on? How can I win money
and give me the most violent thing possible? Like that's
how we watch Okay, So the point is that you
have this, you have a captivated female viewer that you've
told I know you really like watching this woman play,
but we don't care. And now you throw a team
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that we know is going to be successful and it's
just not deemed as likable. And so again I don't
think calculated thing where NBC's sitting there going like, well,
show didn't want Caitlin Clark. So we're not telling an
we're not telling a story about the women's team. It's
just none the stories are interesting, and no one's watching.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Man I didn't even think about that angle until you
guys talked about it, Like I think it would be amazing.
It would make a great story if NBC said, oh,
you don't want to include the most popular person on
the planet in sports right now, Okay, then we just
won't cover your sport. That would be amazing. But I
think it goes back to your original point, Doug. That
the reason why nobody's paying attention now and nobody's going
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to these games now is the reason why the WNBA
has been largely ignored since it started. There just is
not a thirst or a hunger from the mainstream sports
fan for women's basketball and Monts. You could disagree with
me because I know you like women's basketball, but I
could just say from my standpoint and anybody I hang
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out with, we don't go and look for women's basketball
because it isn't a great product. Same reason I don't
go and look for hockey. It's just not to me entertaining.
So if you're not going to include Kaitlin Clark, I'm
gonna root against you in this regard.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
I mean, you're not wrong.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
You're not wrong because I watched WNBA games and I
catch myself comparing it to the NBA. Even though I'll
sit down and watch it, I catch myself comparing the
style of play, the level of without wanting to, and
I'm doing it.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, I don't know if it's I do think there's
a certain amount of And I've always believed this that
the WNBA, when you put it up against the NBA
or against Internet, you're like, wow, the level of skill
is so far below right. And I think the same
thing happens with men's college basket when you compare it
to the NBA. But again, it's for having such a
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high percentage of female viewers and such a low volume
of eyes watching in comparison to other sports. It only
tells you that women have spoken they want to watch
Kaitlin Clark play basketball and they don't care otherwise. And
I think the US women's national team did this them themselves.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
I have a question here.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
So if we're talking about just the Olympics, initially, for
that first game or two, the attendance for all the
game except for US games was really high, like sellouts,
like they're doing really well. And then for the women's game,
like I know, at least their first one, maybe their
second one, the attendance was not as lagged way below
the other games. I don't understand that because the US
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are the best. They've for a long time, for thirty years,
They've won fifty eight straight Olympic Games. So I don't
understand why the best team in Paris does not have
the highest attendance. I just don't get that because we're
not talking about radios.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
But nobody knows who they are.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Yeah, but nobody knows who these other teams are.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Well, what are the teams?
Speaker 7 (17:52):
Like the other teams playing in the Olympics and women's basketball,
they have good attendance. Why don't the US women had?
Why didn't they have good attendants for like that opening game?
And I'm seeing I can't really see. I've seen some
empty seats. I see empty seats galore at this game.
And I don't get it because the US Women, if
you want to go watch the best of the best,
these this team is the best with Kaitlin Clark or
no Kaitlyn Clark. So I don't understand why, like the
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people in Paris are not going to these games of
the US Women.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I don't know. My guess again, and this is sheerly.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Spiting the team as well, because there's no Kaitlin Clark.
Do they somehow know about this and they're like, well,
we're not going to show up because there's no Kaitlyn Clark.
And if you love Kaitlyn Clark in a French.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Accent, M.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
No, I again, this is just yeah, you guys have
ever been in the Olympics. No, Nope, me neither. Okay.
Just to guess, though, most people go to see their
home country play, right unless they're just gigantic stars. And
I don't think they have any gigantic stars. I don't
think anybody cares about them, and I think most of
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us are like eh, I would guess that that's a
reflection of Americans not showing up.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
I could I could see, like, you know, you're taking
a trip from Germany to France, from Spain to France.
You know, all of those are like I would assume
like a train ride or you could take a two
hour flight or less and get to Paris and watch
your team. But I don't know. I feel like there's
probably a good amount of Americans over in Paris. But yeah,
they're not showing.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Up for the games.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
They're showing up not for the.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
Yeah, they're showing up for other events.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Let me, uh, there's your answer.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Let me let me offer another answer. And I'm going
to use a French term. You guys know what fate
complay means. Fate yea something that has already been determined. Yes,
I don't know. If you're winning every game by fifty points,
maybe that's just not very interesting.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
Yeah, I think that. Yeah, more parody between these teams
or the US and whoever team they're facing. There's more
parody in their close games. I guess people would tune
in to see them, like Jason possibly fail and lose.
But they're wiping the floor with everybody. So yeah, it's
not really interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
We do like interesting. Faye de complay fy Dick Crumpy.
We come from France. Hey, Dick compley.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
This is the best of the Don dot Lead Show
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Stuck Atleeb Show, Fox Sports Radio, Mike Silver. The San
Francisco Chronicle reports that brand Ayuk's decision to show up
for training camp but not practice is bothering Kyle Shanahan
because it's perceived as Ayuk brooding while in around the building.
The Niners could play hardball with Ayuk telling him he
must practice and prepare to play for fourteen point one
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million this year or be fined for conduct detrimental to
the team. At some point between now and Week one,
they'll need to tell them it's time to get to work. Still,
there's a way to be present and also way to
be a pain in the ass without being an overt
paying the ass Auk seems to have found the sweet spot,
but apparently it's hitting a raw nerve with Shanahan. Look
at some point, and again I can speak to this coaching.
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You got to know are you in or y out?
Are you in and your out? That's really what this
kind of comes down to. Are you in or are
you out? And there was a story earlier today that
they were trying to figure out a deal with the
Pittsburgh Steelers. That story has not come in terms of
there's no been no fruition to that in terms of
(21:23):
no trade has been made, but we're getting close to that,
you know what, or get off the pot stage for anybody, anybody,
Brandon Ayuk is no different than anybody else. Talented, but
no different than anybody else. And if not the Steelers,
then we're talking. You know, he didn't want to go
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to Heat clear didn't want to go to the Patriots,
And I just don't think the really good teams. I
think the Steelers is a hard fit. But with Pickens
and his attitude, they can go up and down. The
fact that they don't have an elite level quarterback, but
maybe that means they're always going to go cheap on
the quarterbacks and put great personnel around him. Maybe that's
their new philosophy. But I get it. How do you
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get how you round but not a Debbie Downer? How
much can they share with you knowing that you might
or might not be there when it gets to be real,
real football season Stug Gottlieb Show Here on Fox Sports Radio.
Dante Whittner joins this. They called him Dante Hitner back
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when he was a Pro bowler, three time Pro Bowl
in the Nation Football League. He also covers the entire NFL
for NBC Sports Bay Area. He's a former Niner and
a former Bill Let me ask you your opinion of
Ayuk and of the Niners and the entirety of the situation.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
In my opinion, Brendon Ayuk is the top five wide
receiver currently in the NFL, and I gauze that based
on his amount of targets, his production, and last year
he was all pro, is the best downfield threat for
the forty nine Ers, and if they lose him to
the Steelers or Washington or whoever's involved, it'll be a
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big loss in a hard position to be able to
cover up with the loss of Brandon au.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
So why not extend them.
Speaker 9 (23:12):
Well, the forty nine Ers and their star players over
the last few years have had contract disputes. You can
go back to Nick Bosa last year, you can go
to Deebo Samuel before that, and you can go to
Fred Warner before that. So this happens a lot with
the forty nine ers. But I believe that they do
value Brandon Ayuk, and it's just a mind game, contractual
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mind game that's going on between the forty nine Ers
and Brandon and Ayuk and his representatives.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
What's the mind game.
Speaker 9 (23:42):
Get him to take roughly twenty four to twenty five
million dollars a year and not really what he's actually
valued at, and to say, hey, go out and you
can find a deal somewhere else. And then Brandon Ayuk
understands that you're only valuable as a wide receiver if
you have an offensive line and a quarterback that can
get you to football, and a lot of these places
haven't really shown that they've developed the quarterback and an
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offensive an offensive strategic system to get the football downfield.
So I think that's probably where he is with it.
He wants to grow with Brock Purbey.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Okay, So how do you balance that out as a
player where you can have way more success playing with
a team that is likely going to pay you less money.
How do you balance that out?
Speaker 9 (24:26):
Well, I look at it like this. You're looking at
the guaranteed money nowadays when you look at the NFL contracts,
if you do a five six year contract, the last
two years are pretty much fluff. The teams and the
organizations don't really expect you to perform at the high
level that you are when they paid you five years
four years down the row. So it's a lot about
getting that guaranteed money up front. So if I'm Brandon,
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iuke I really go into a short term deal with
a lot of guaranteed money, probably all three years guaranteed,
and then you're right back at the table, and then
you have a proven offensive for low under Kyle Shanahan
in an up and coming quarterback in the NFL, you
couldn't be in a better place. Otherwise, you go to
the Steelers and they can't get it right, and you
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go to another team like Cleveland and they don't get
it right. On the off of the side of the
ball you played two years, three years, they're looking to
trade you, or they're looking to cut those top players
that are making the most money off of the team
when they don't perform. So if I was Brandon n you,
I would figure out a way to get it done
with the forty nine Ers and then get back to
the table three four years down the road for another contract.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Do you think that happens.
Speaker 9 (25:34):
I do think it happens. I think that when you
look at the entirety of the forty nine ers offense,
of course it all runs through Christian McCaffrey and the
offensive line, But when you really look at the plays
that were made last year in big moments in the playoffs,
Brandon and I you came through on a lot of
those third and shorts, fourth and shores, and he's their
number one target. So I do think they value him.
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I think that he was a little emotional in the
way that he handled it early on, communicate through the
media and telling people how the forty nine ers don't
want them. You have to understand when you're a young
guy that these are tactics that teams use to get
their favorable deals. So I think that they'll figure out
a way to get it done.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Rady, that's the
voice of Dante Whittner joining us. Okay, what about Rock Perdy.
What have you seen from him in camp this year?
Speaker 9 (26:21):
Well, he was taking full command of this offense last
year coming back off of injury. We saw him sputter
sometimes through the season, but he did get it done
in the playoffs. Right now, he's looking phenomenal. And there
were two days where he had multiple interceptions on multiple throws.
I think there was a day when he had three
interceptions and he followed it up the following day with
four interceptions. I don't really look at those things because
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when they game plan and Kyle Shanahan sits with Rock
Purty in the quarterbacks in that room, they know exactly
where to go with the football, and he has all
the tools and the capabilities. I think that the forty
nine or faithful would just like to see him step
it up sometimes late in those games and pull it
out like maybe a Tom Radio or Aaron Rodgers could.
But other than that, he's right on course to be
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a top paid, top performing quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
How much pressure is for them to finally get over
that hump and to get to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 9 (27:13):
There's an immense amount of pressure for the forty nine
ers to get over the hump. And it started back
in twenty twelve, and we get so close, and they
get so close, and then something happens to where you know,
they relinquished the whole Layton football games. And we saw it,
I believe three four or five years ago against Patrick
Mahomes late in the game turned long to Tyreek. Hell,
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you squandered that lead. This time they were driving late
in the game, you get a blown blocking assignment by
Spencer Bufor and you don't get an easy touchdown. So
it's just about the continued growth of everybody involved. And
then when you get to the playoffs in those big games,
you have to make plays to get over the hump.
So there's immense pressure on the forty nine ers because
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that window is starting to close.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports. Ready, that's the
voice of Dante Whittner joining us. The players voted on
that NFL dot com poll. They voted Lamar Jackson ahead
of Pat Mahomes in terms of best players in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Do you agree?
Speaker 9 (28:17):
I do not agree. I think that the number one
player in the NFL should have been Patrick Mahomes and
then number two could have been Tyreek Heel. But when
you're a quarterback that consistently leads your team and organization
to the super Bowl and you perform well in late moments,
high pressure moments, I think you deserve to be the
number one player in the NFL. And it's all about
winning championships. So I agree that Patrick Mahomes he should
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have been number one, But I never really got into
that list. I've never voted as a player for the
top one hundred players, so I don't know if they
picked selected players and coaches and front office members to
vote on that, but I've never voted on it. And
Johnson from Chicago was absolutely right. There's no way that
Aaron Rodgers should be on the if he didn't play
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last year. So I think that Johnson should have also
been included on that list, And I've never really gotten
into it, you know, just a bunch of opinions, but
the guys that are in the top five definitely deserve
to be there.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Okay, speaking of Aaron Rodgers, what type of year do
you think he has coming off an Achilles ten and tear?
All reports our arm looks great, but you tell me,
what do you think?
Speaker 9 (29:22):
Well, with all the psychedelics that he's been doing, clearing
out his aura, you know, losing the game for a year,
probably let a flame under him like he hasn't had
in a long time. And then you know, a guy
like Aaron Rodgers, he's into people doubting him, right, So
when you doubt a guy like that and a guy
like Tom Brady, they really get off on coming out
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and proving everybody wrong. So I think he's going to
have a phenomenal year. You have Gary Wilson down there,
who's going to be his number one threat, Ohio State guy.
He's ready to take the next step. So I think
that the New York Jets and their fan base should
get ready for an incredible year from Aaron Rodgers and
net organization did you.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Have a chance to watch Hard Knocks ad Al.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
I didn't have a chance to watch it at all,
maybe a couple of years ago. But you know, nowadays
there's so much, you know, with the reality TV. I
think a lot of it is planned. I don't really
get into it too much.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
No, No, I only ask because I did watch the first
first episode of The Bears of the Bears one, and
they've added just a bunch of new pieces, right, kind
of like a whole new offense to go along with
the rookie quarterback to a defense that improved dramatically. Does
that work? Right? Does just going out and getting more
talent and getting a new quarterback? Does that work in
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the short term?
Speaker 9 (30:37):
No, you have to have continuity. You have to have
veteran players that all understand second and third level thinking
when it comes to football. For example, if you have
a young secondary, they can be talented at all they want.
But if you don't know how to deceive quarterbacks based
on with in depth perception, if you don't know how
to do it with your shoulders and read steps, if
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you don't underst and how to split the field, it's
going to be difficult to be quarterbacks that are at
the top of the game and have seen every coverage,
So you know, I really don't agree that just because
they go and draft the Heisman winning quarterback and had
a couple of pieces that is going to finally get
them over to hump. There are teams that understand what
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it means to practice hard and be able to persevere
through tough situations and perform in the moment. And then
you have teams who subcumb to a lot of that
pressure and pain. And you know, and I believe that
the Chicago Bears will be another one of those teams
this year that will succumb to that. Eventually. I think
that Caleb Williams will lead them to some success, but
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I don't think it's going to happen overnight.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Big story today is Jalen Hurts apparently a lack of
respect for his head coach, Nick Sirianni is an excellent
owing and kind of did his own thing last year.
Where do you said, as a guy who sat in
those film rooms but analyze as well, where do you
sit on Jalen Hurts not paying attention to his coach
leading to an awkward relationship.
Speaker 9 (32:02):
Well, I think that when you have these type of
stories that are released. I have to think that a
lot of it is probably made up and some of
it is probably true. And when you think about the
fan base in Philadelphia and how rugged and tough they
are on their fan base, there's many stories that are
going to come out of there. Everything is great when
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you're winning, when you struggle with that type of fan base,
you're going to get all type of stories. I think
that they've shown that they can work together and have success.
They've shown what their formula lais. Last year, Jalen Hurst
was maybe injured a little bit, so he didn't have
the productivity that he had the previous year. But I
think that, you know, true professionals, working grown man will
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find a way to get over the hump. They have
all the talent in the NFC and maybe the entire NFL,
and if they can just find a way to work
together and not allow the emotions or the personal to
get to interfere with the game of football, you can
expect the Philadelphia Eagles to be competing with the forty
nine ers for that top spot in the NFC. So
I don't really get into that a lot. I think
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that knowing who Jalen hurts Is and what he's accomplished,
and the trials and tribulations and how he persevere. I
think that he'll figure out a way to be professionally
and get some wins on the board.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Okay, let me ask you about the Green Bay Packers,
really young team. Jordan Love gets his deal, how does
that season play out.
Speaker 9 (33:25):
I think that can come back and bite them. If
you watch them. In the first eight games of the season,
he looked average and below average. He did catch fire.
Some of those games were against the low average defenses
and secondaries, and then when you get in the playoffs,
anything can happen. I think that the Green Bay Packers
probably should have waited another year before they paid Jordan Love,
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But I just totally see it backfiring on those guys.
I do have a lot of respect for their defensive
coordinator who I play for and the Cleveland Browns, and
you know he was at Ohio State. I think that
he's going to do a great job. I understand his philosophy,
the three to four system. He understands the width and
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depth of the safety is how to manipulate quarterbacks. So
if they can really get that defense going, anything can happen.
But I don't see Jordan Love starting the season, you know,
going through the middle of season and finishing the way
he finished off last year.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Trader. That's the
voice of Dante Hitner. Whitner, you got a guy who's
better educated on actually playing and covering the league, and
we're opinioned. Good luck find him. He's awesome and you
can find him here as well as NBC Sports Bay Area. Dante,
you're the best man.
Speaker 9 (34:37):
Thanks for joining us, all right, Doug, thanks for having
me look forward to the next time.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
No no doubts, and look, Dante's a guy who, like
he didn't care if you agree with this opinion. His opinion.
He played a really high level, he analyzed a really
high level, and I don't agree with everything he says,
by respect, it has come from a place of actual knowledge,
not not hot taking stuff. It's awesome.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
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Sam on the ones and twos. It's the middle of
the week. Not sure if you realize that, it's like Man,
(35:49):
summer does that to you?
Speaker 7 (35:50):
Right?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Even though no Vacano holidays this weekend, We'renogg's middle of
the week middle of the show. Remember we have our
one hour podcast in our third hour middle of the day.
Let's get to the midway.
Speaker 8 (36:03):
Is that getting.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
It's time for the midway? All right? Dear okay, dear guys,
what do you think they're a kidding? Topic wise? We
doing Olympics? Is that what you guys want to do?
Our favorite Olympics storylines? Is that? Is that what I'm
(36:26):
feeling for you guys or stories thus far? You guys
want to flush, flush this one out, or you guys
all decided.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I think that's interesting because you and I have both
said on the record that we weren't going to watch
the Olympics. We had no interest in watching the Olympics
other than the men's basketball. I think you and I
are both on the we're both on the same page.
But inevitably, if you follow sports and you follow on Twitter,
you get wrapped up into these storylines or moments or
(36:54):
see things go viral, and you do end up paying
attention to the Olympics. I'm not watching it in a
linear fashion now, Sam and MATSI, I think do seek
it out. If I don't want to speak for either
of you, but don't you two seek out events and
watch events?
Speaker 7 (37:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think basketball and maybe women's soccer.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
I've saw it out. I'm like, oh, that's on, let's
watch that.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
If I'm at home and they're doing the replays at
night on NBC they encore performances.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
I'm not.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
I mean, I've had it on the other night, watch
some badminton that was fun. I'm not. I'm not, you know,
I'm not fully one hundred percent into this Olympics.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
I'm enjoying it though. Yeah, that's how I am.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
I don't know if I'm seeking it out, but definitely,
if something's on and I sit.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
And watch it, I'm into it.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
I may not know what is happening in front of me,
but I'm into it.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
For example, So my most memorable moment of the last
ten days of the Olympics was Noah Lyles and the
hundred yard dash. Okay, he won by point zero zero
zero five of a second. I think each of the
runners finished an under under ten seconds. I guess that's
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a big deal. I like the fact that Lee Diffy,
the play by play announcer, completely botched the call and
was as clumsy in his apology and explanation. I like,
see that was cool because that was all over Twitter
and there are a lot of memes and stuff. And
then this Noah Lyles guy. I guess he was the
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same character who said that winning a gold medal is
a lot better than winning an NBA championship because it's
not a world championship. In the NBA, it's not war,
it's just the country's championship, so a gold medal is
more significant. He was that guy. I found that out
because of that one hundred yard death. I appreciate all
that from Noah Lyles.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
So is that your Is that your storyline that you want?
Speaker 4 (38:55):
That's that's my that's my.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
That you're watching the Olympics more or the.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I'm not watching the Olympics anymore than I thought I would,
but that one thing caught my interest, so it forced
me to pay attention.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Okay, mon's your favorite storyline story about the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Okay, So this, I mean not the answer that you're expecting,
but I think what my favorite thing that has happened
from the Olympics is all of those videos of people
saying sorry, I didn't make the Olympics, and it's them
just eating you know what, trying to.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Perform, whether it's swimming, gym not whatever.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
Have you seen those videos, Doug, They're like, yeah, I
didn't Oh, I'm going to send it to you.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
So it's like.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
People are posting themselves trying to do gymnastics or swim diving,
the whole thing, and it's like, yeah, I guess I
didn't make the Olympics and it's.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Because they eat you know what.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
And it's so hilarious.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
And I feel like because of social media, This is
the first time I've seen this during an Olympic period,
and it's just so so funny seeing us normal people
out there making fools out of ourselves when it comes
to the level of letticism that we're seeing on TV.
So my favorite things.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
So far are all of those videos.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
That are popping up of people just not making it
the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
I thought you were referring to the phenomenon that's totally
separate than what you're talking about, the phenomenon of people
posting actual Olympics fails like the diver.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Oh yeah, that's so funny.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Resume's that's a.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Thing I enjoy. That actually a great deal.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
I'm what's the light on his resume?
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Must have light on it.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
Yes, I've seen that one too.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
I'm gonna I'm gonna text you guys all this one
because this one has a bunch of videos. But it's
just so funny and I feel like this is my
favorite part of the Olympics so far.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Right now, Okay, you are such a volleyball hump.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
I do love volleyboo ball.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
No, of course I love volleyball.
Speaker 6 (40:52):
But you know this is too funny. This is too funny.
Speaker 7 (40:55):
Uh, Sam I'm going to start off with a general
general thing here. The United States is kicking some serious
ass at these Olympics. If you look at the overall
medal leaders in terms of country, the USA is at
ninety one medals one, China sixty two, and France forty nine.
But here's a kicker. So we're the best in that.
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We are also two gold medals ahead of China twenty
six to twenty four, and in distant third places Australia.
Australia loves to kick our butts in any sport that
they can when they get a chance a shot at
the US. And we know that the competition, the competitive
nature between the USA and China and the US in
Russia and China and Russia, it's all very competitive. Like
we're financial economic adversaries and we're Olympic adversaries. So this
(41:43):
is I've heard a lot of US athletes very very
proud to have medaled or won of gold, have that
USA across their chest, and I just have to play this.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
I think this will be a memorable.
Speaker 7 (41:57):
Olympics that the Americans definitely don't forget because of how
well we've done it.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
It's been it's been very Uh, very patriotic.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
To see how well the US is done gold medals
and overall metals.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
My god, Doug, have you looked at the video Manzi
sent us. No, this is right up your rally. So
Doug always talks about there are three people that when
they see people hurting themselves online.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (42:22):
The person who says I need I can't watch it enough. Yeah,
person says I watch.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I can't see it ever. Yeah, I only see it
once just to catalog it, and I can't stop watching it.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
I think Mancy obviously falls in the category of I
can't stop watching this stuff because I at least the
second entry and I'm like, oh, I can't watch these
This is people hurting themselves.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
No, No, this is a young woman jumping off of
a one meter Look, get.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
The next one, the gymnastics one.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Oh, there's another one. Scroll.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
I can't be alive after that, right, she can't be
alive after that.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
But she's on the uneven parallel bars and she just
lets go and she's okay.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
She's okay, but her body parts aren't going the right.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Where is this one going?
Speaker 9 (43:11):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Then it's amazing.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
On that third one.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
No, she's she's not probably not a big woman, but
she's clearly too big for gymnastics, and she what is
this a round off back ran off handspring?
Speaker 6 (43:31):
But she want to her knees, both meniscus gone. Everything
that's part of your knee, it's gone.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
In that moment, I'm out. Sorry, God, you guys.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
Can I can't even watch past the first video because
I don't have Instagram, so I can only see the backflop.
So ah, Instagram, I am nature that type would be
like I don't want to watch someone breaking their leg.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
I want to avert my eyes. They're not breaking the
I know.
Speaker 7 (43:56):
But so since I can't see the second videos and
beyond that's like, it's okay because I don't have Instagram,
so it works out.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
I'm sorry I can't Monsie, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
I was doing such a.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Good job of being like locked in on this crap
and then this radio show and then now I'm I
don't even know what we're talking about or who I am.
My favorite part of the Olympics storyline.
Speaker 6 (44:25):
Oh wait, I see the videos.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Now there you go, there you go say goodbye to
Sam for the next five minutes. Yeah, he's gone. I'm
gonna wrack my brain here on things that I like
the best. I mean, the Djokovic winning on clay when
the gold medal was pretty amazing.
Speaker 6 (44:43):
That is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah, it was, It was really amazing. I thought last
night's Australia Serbia quarterfinal match, which Serbia came from twenty
four down to win an overtime, was awesome. But the
best one's probably, honest, See, the best one is the swimmer,
the French swimmer who's annihilated everything.
Speaker 6 (45:04):
And then I Leon Machamp.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah, but then they show Michael Phelps in the studio
like cheering for him, and I just I wanted to
ask you, guys, like if you hold all these world
records and you're watching somebody take down your world records.
Like again, I got to know Michael Phelps lot last year.
By this time, I do this dinner every year in
LA at the Beverly Hilton and we raise money for
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cancer research and the good thing out with Michael that night,
and I was like, what a great dude, Like he
really has like kind of found out who he is
here now with having kids and being married to be
away from the sport. But man, what a dude to
be cheering for other people to break your world records.
I can tell you right now. If I have world
records and somebody is trying to beat them, I am
doing that. No no, no, no, no no. All right, Jason,
(45:55):
have you seen any of this Michael Phelps cheering for
him to beat his world records?
Speaker 4 (45:59):
I have not seen that video.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
No, And it just it doesn't look fake, which is
what's really nice about it. He seems genuinely excited for.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
The dude midway full of beard, right, full beard and
long hair.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
Yeah, not about long hair, but the beard is very
full and very long.
Speaker 7 (46:16):
Yeah right now he could he make a great extra
as like a pirate in a pirate movie with that beard.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
Yeah, he looks very pirate esque. Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Are we done making pirate movies? I thought, how many?
How many Pirates of the Caribbeans did we get with?
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Oh no, because Johnny Depp was uncanceled. I think he's
negotiating for another one.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
He's back.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
He was uncanceled.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
The great thing about that series is it's a lot
like the all the Marvel ones, like you can never
really die, you know. They if they kill off your character,
you just go to the metaverse and then you're back.
You know, it's the same thing with with Pirates of
the Caribbean. You can come back as the ghost. Fine,
that's if you're ever going to get into a series
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and you're not the lead character. I think you should
get into a series in which you can be brought
back to life, like a Marvel one and like a
fantasy one like Pirates of the Caribbean.
Speaker 6 (47:10):
I got a couple more things? Can we do a couple?
Speaker 7 (47:12):
Okay, did you quickly did you guys see the video
of Lebron thinking that the crowd was cheering for him, Yes,
when it was really Leon Marchamp.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
I have not seen it, but I heard Bron.
Speaker 6 (47:22):
Sort of like putting his arms in the air and
he's like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yeah, yeah, I'm good. He did the cool Yeah, like yeah,
I'm good. I thanks, thanks so much for all the recognition.
Speaker 7 (47:31):
And last but not least here, last but not least here,
I want to kind of celebrate the bronze medal.
Speaker 6 (47:38):
And I know that's third place.
Speaker 7 (47:39):
It's still a medal though, But Iowa is not known
for its track and field like internationally. Maybe they went
an outdoor competition every once in a while, but former
Hawkeye athlete Britney Brown. She won the bronze medal in
the two hundred meter and then she becomes the first
woman in Iowa cross country and track and field due
you saw that earn an individual individual Olympic medals, So
(48:00):
I think that's awesome. And you got the women, the
American women winning the bronze and rugby, and you had
Grant Fisher who took the bronze in the ten thousand
meter dashed twenty five times around the track to become
the first American man to do that in like fifty
six years.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
So does anybody have any idea how boring that is?
Speaker 7 (48:16):
That's a lot of run, that's a lot of you
got to be just gassed after that. You're sprinting that whole.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
It's not just the running, it's the going around to
track twenty.
Speaker 6 (48:23):
Five twenty five times.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
But good for him, Like that's the boring ist trapped
there actually ever has been.
Speaker 6 (48:29):
Hey man, I'm going to celebrate that bronze medal.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
I'm not disreading I No, I'm actually giving you more credit.
Like I think that's harder than running a marathon, at
least the marathon. Ever, the topography changes, right, Oh yeah,
And you're looking around, like just running around the same
loop like hm, hmmm, was that twenty two or twenty one?
I can't remember. I just yeah, I'd be done after that. Yeah, agreed, Agreed,
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in their preseason that because Russell Wilson's nursing a bad
calf muscle. Here's Mike Tomlin when he's asked about fields
and his competition.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I think he just comes to compete every day. He's
got an awesome competitive spirit. We got a competitive environment,
and it seems like he's enjoying it. He's doing a
really good job of accle who made it himself to
it and his teammates and letting his talent show. I
think everything is an audition. Everything that we do is
(00:53):
an audition, not only for him, but for others.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I still don't buy that he's gonna be their starting
quarterback day one, or that it's even close, but I
could be wrong. Remember, the entire league had a chance
to Justin Field's making very little to no money this year,
with not much in terms of trade value, and they
all passed. Now, that doesn't mean that the entire league
can't be dopes, can't be idiots, but they saw something
(01:21):
or know something about Justin Fields, the quarterback that the
Steelers are trying to act like he maybe is overcome.
I don't buy that. I just don't. And it goes
again goes back to what we said about Jalen Hurts.
Jalen Hurst doesn't go from a guy you're like, yeah,
I don't know, they might want to move on to
the greatest quarterback we've ever seen. Justin Fields doesn't go
(01:42):
from a yeah, Bears need to get a new quarterback.
He can't really throw a football to oh my gosh,
he's gonna beat out Russell Wilson. So I think, you know,
the name gets us excited, the fact that he was
a first round pick, a great player at Ohio State,
and a guy who had some moments with the Bears.
The reality is he has had the time to fix
(02:05):
all of his flaws. So if you think that the
Steelers think he has, I think we're taking the bait
on that one. I think we're taking the bait Stuck
Gotib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, So if
you are, you know, Stuck Gottleib Show here on Fox
(02:29):
Sports Radio, unless you're hitting under rock. You knew the
NCAA was investigating Michigan, but you probably thought they were
just investigating Michigan for stealing signs. The NCAA announced today
a four year show cause for Michigan for Michigan head
coach Jim Harbaugh for in permissible contact with recruits and
(02:51):
players while access was restricted during COVID nineteen pandemic, effectively
banning him from college athletics and August of twenty twenty four,
the nca said that Harball, who left his all moder
as coach of the LA Chargers after last seasons championship game,
engaged in unethical contact, failed to promote an atmosphere of compliance,
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and violated head coaching responsibility obligations. The NCAA already put
in Michigan on three years of probation along with a
fine for recruiting limits after reaching a negotiated resolution in
the case, Harball did not go along with the agreement,
disputing the allegations he failed to operate with investigators. His
case was handled separately. Yeah, I don't know. I look,
(03:41):
I work for a university that has to abide by
NCAA rules. There are lots of NCAA rules that don't
make any any sense. I have long been a proponent
of the rules of the NCAA because, like, look, they
were voted on and approved on by a majority of
the schools. So you can fight to change it, but
don't break a rule and act like you're surprised. The
(04:04):
COVID ones are a bit Darconian, no doubt. And if
we think back to COVID I understand that you look
at it now and you're like, that was ridiculous. That
was ridiculous. That was ridiculous. The realistic way of looking
at it, I believe is some of them were over
the top of many of them were meant with the
right spirit in mind that you didn't want to get
(04:24):
people infected, that didn't mean to be infected to bring
it home to mom and dad or somebody who was communocompromiser.
God forbid your grandma and grandpa, and then it spreads
and it kills them. They have the right intention of
heart to not always the right execution but did you know,
and I learned this last week, I don't know, you
are not allowed to use exercise as punishment for a
(04:49):
player performance was scholastically or otherwise. Do you guys know that?
In other words, if a player gets in trouble, right,
player gets in trouble, you can't run them or make
them do stadium steps or you know, we used to
do these workouts called twenty fives at Oaklham State that
(05:10):
were just impossible to do. You're not technically you're not
allowed to do it. Now everyone I know violates that rule.
Now it's supposed to not as supposed to be a
standalone workout only for punishment. Right, there's a gray area
there within it and how you do it. The point
is so many rules, and one of the big rules
is you're responsible as head coach for everybody under your watch.
(05:34):
Any Yeah, by the way, you got to completely disclose
what you do and why you do it, how you
do it, and give up your cell phone. And Jim
Harbaugh wasn't going to this is the Pete Carroll though
Pete Carroll member was s he was going on probation,
right is he left? And you're wondering if forever leave
and that was what caused him to leave. So harpball
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is never coming back to coach college anymore. Anyway, Why
would you You won a national championship game in your last game,
it was at your own monitor. You left in a
better place. You're good. But I don't think that he'd
be done fighting this one because I do believe Jim
is about his ethics. You may not agree with them,
but he's pretty strong in terms of what he believes
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in his ethics. The hard part is gonna be the
COVID stuff where you just weren't allowed to have contact
with people, and they did, and lots of programs did
and they got caught. They got caught. My take has
always been unless you're buying players, and this is before
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the world of nil and even now, like just I
just don't like it now. But buying players, I believe,
is different than compensating players, and compensating guys that have
established themselves and you know they do some appearances and whatever,
and there's a reasonable rate there. Like just giving a
kid money, especially back then before it was legal against
the rules, and doing anything to change somebody's grades or
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take the test for him. That's unethical those two things.
I got no problem with you getting fired for other stuff.
What are we doing, what are we doing? What are
we actually doing? So I you know, and this has
nothing to do, by the way, with sign stealings, So
there could be additional punishment, I guess for sign stealing.
(07:22):
But like we're not allowing Jim Harbaugh to come to
a party that he was no longer going to come to.
Is like I already went to that Christmas party. I
don't need to go in again. Like oh yah, I'm fine,
You're you're suspended, you can't come anymore. Like I'm not
coming to your Christmas party. This is Jim Harbaugh's attorney,
Tom Mars. The way I see a Coach Harbaugh's respective
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today's COI decision is like being in your college and
getting a letter from your high school saying you've been
suspended because you didn't sign the yearbook. If I were
in Coach Harbaugh's shoes and had an eighty million dollar
contract of head coach of the Chargers, I wouldn't pay
any attention to the findings of a kangaroo court, which
claims to represent the principles of the nation's most flagrant
(08:05):
repeat violators of antitrust laws. Yeah. I mean, look, Tom
Mars obviously clearly a lawyer, and he's dancing on the
grave of the NCAA. And I don't blame him. I
think a stronger statement would have been he is the
most ethical coach in college football. None of this has
anything to do with reality. But we made a bunch
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of money and you're a violator of anti trust laws.
I don't know. He just asked him to hammer Michigan harder.
Is that what you're doing? And there is a certain
sense of you can't win with the NCAA. I get it.
Mile Monter Oklaan State felt like with basketball they cooperated
fully and they still got taken out of the NCAA tournament.
Still happened. It's a Dog Gotlieb show here on Fox
(08:54):
Sports Radio. So Jay stew I was wondering because this
was something I felt like was kind of right up
your alley, right is is how we're watching now and
the US women's national team is not drawing well or
(09:15):
getting any attention, And I guess this is one of
those Do you think if they could do it all
over again, they would include Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I mean what's her face? What's the name of the
South Carolina's head coach, Don Staley. I think she admitted
as much last week. I don't know if she was
admitting that in the context of the lack of interest.
I think she was just admitting that somehow Caitlyn Clark
got a lot better as a player in the last
few weeks and it changed her mind. But now I'm
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on record, I think on this show at the very
weast I said it on the podcast, I'm rooting against
our woman. Like I'm I'm I don't care about this
women's basketball team. In fact, it'll make a much better
story if they lose to Nigeria today. I mean that
that's our lead tomorrow if they if they lose Nigeria
tips off here in a couple of minutes. I'm rooting
(10:09):
against our team so that we could have great content tomorrow.
The I told you so, you wouldn't have lost with
Caitlyn Clark, or I told you so.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
This is why you don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I don't even know what they're the head coach's name is,
but she has shown she has shown such an arrogance
around the whole Kaitlin Clark.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Have you noticed though, and and like, look, I don't
think it's intentional. Yeah, I don't think NBC not paying
attention to it is intentional. It's just not interesting. It's
just not interesting. Correct And and you know they've done
this to themselves. They're still winning and they're still gonna
win the thing. They're still the best team, but they're
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not interesting anymore. There's nothing of that that's interesting. And
if if I'm sitting there and I'm in a production
meaning like, hey, do we want to talk to the
women's coach of yousa or do we want to talk
to the guy who the pole vaulter who hit his
junk on the pole? Like yeah, that guy.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I mean, I think it's hard to say that she's
not doing it on purpose, or that I don't know
who's not doing purpose or what's the name of the coach,
not Don Staley the other one that like, yes, she's doing.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
It on purpose. I'm saying, Oh, I'm saying I don't think.
I don't think NBC. Like if you notice that NBC,
NBC and Peacock which is NBC, they're not focused on
the women's national team, not having the players in studio
and I don't watch every moment, so I'm if I'm mistaken,
please tell me. But it's not a talking point, not
at all. I'm not talking about it at all. We're
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back to covering women's basketball the way it's always been covered,
where nobody really cares, nobody really pays attention. It doesn't
matter that we're better than everybody else, it's just what's
the There is no ratings boon from covering it, where
with the men, clearly there is.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
And I also think the men's is kind of not
being covered as much.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
But I agree with you there is a huge.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Gap between the women and the men, and it is interesting.
Would this be the case if Caitlin Clark was on
the team?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Of course not.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Yeah, it's right, there's a person.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
So the Olympics are really more made for women. More
women viewers tune into the Olympics. It's not that men
don't watch the Olympics, but women watch a lot more
of the Olympics, and they're women that normally don't watch
sports on TV.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
I think that's the reason.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Is because there's more women participating in these sports, is
why more women watch? Yes, and no, I mean women
don't necessarily aren't necessarily drawn to sports with predominantly men
in them.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
There are female football fans out there, and.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You know, Sam, I think you're talking about something you
have absolutely no statistical background for other than a feeling
that you're.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Just wing it.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, you are, your eyeball. You can prove to because
because what happens is the reason.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
Again, Doug, when you go to NFL game, do you
think it's a majority men or women in there?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
It's definitely definitely a dude's sport, right, Okay, but but women,
But the female audience in football is growing substantially.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Sure, but it's definitely more men watching, like men watching me.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I understand. But like track and field, for example, the
men any Olympic sport, regardless of men and women, there
is a higher percentage of women watching as opposed to
how many women watch normal sports regardless to where as
men or otherwise. Okay, it just is that's just again,
we can we can kind of track the eptomology, emtomology, eptomology,
(13:45):
the background of it, etymology. Yeah, if we want, like
for a different podcast or something like what causes That
was fine, okay, but the real again, the reality to
it is the Olympics are really more for female viewers.
They just are guys will watch, but women watch the
Olympics and they love them and they do love them
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for the females, for the women's stories. But also if
you look at the way that NBC has always broadcast
the Olympics, you know they have these short stories, they
tell people's backgrounds, you know, all this amazing stories of
triumph and comebacks and et cetera. Like again, that is
more how women watch sports. Men watch sports are like
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who can I bet on? How can I win money
and give me the most violent thing possible? Like that's
how we watch Okay, So the point is that you
have this, you have a captivated female viewer that you've
told I know you really like watching this woman play,
but we don't care. And now you throw a team
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that we know is going to be successful and it's
just not deemed as likable. And so again I don't
think calculated thing where NBC's sitting there going like, well,
show didn't want Caitlin Clark. So we're not telling an
we're not telling a story about the women's team. It's
just none the stories are interesting, and no one's watching.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Man I didn't even think about that angle until you
guys talked about it, Like I think it would be amazing.
It would make a great story if NBC said, oh,
you don't want to include the most popular person on
the planet in sports right now, Okay, then we just
won't cover your sport. That would be amazing. But I
think it goes back to your original point, Doug. That
the reason why nobody's paying attention now and nobody's going
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to these games now is the reason why the WNBA
has been largely ignored since it started. There just is
not a thirst or a hunger from the mainstream sports
fan for women's basketball and Monts. You could disagree with
me because I know you like women's basketball, but I
could just say from my standpoint and anybody I hang
(15:52):
out with, we don't go and look for women's basketball
because it isn't a great product. Same reason I don't
go and look for hockey. It's just not to me entertaining.
So if you're not going to include Kaitlin Clark, I'm
gonna root against you in this regard.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
I mean, you're not wrong.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
You're not wrong because I watched WNBA games and I
catch myself comparing it to the NBA. Even though I'll
sit down and watch it, I catch myself comparing the
style of play, the level of without wanting to, and
I'm doing it.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, I don't know if it's I do think there's
a certain amount of And I've always believed this that
the WNBA, when you put it up against the NBA
or against Internet, you're like, wow, the level of skill
is so far below right. And I think the same
thing happens with men's college basket when you compare it
to the NBA. But again, it's for having such a
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high percentage of female viewers and such a low volume
of eyes watching in comparison to other sports. It only
tells you that women have spoken they want to watch
Kaitlin Clark play basketball and they don't care otherwise. And
I think the US women's national team did this them themselves.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
I have a question here.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
So if we're talking about just the Olympics, initially, for
that first game or two, the attendance for all the
game except for US games was really high, like sellouts,
like they're doing really well. And then for the women's game,
like I know, at least their first one, maybe their
second one, the attendance was not as lagged way below
the other games. I don't understand that because the US
(17:32):
are the best. They've for a long time, for thirty years,
They've won fifty eight straight Olympic Games. So I don't
understand why the best team in Paris does not have
the highest attendance. I just don't get that because we're
not talking about radios.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
But nobody knows who they are.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
Yeah, but nobody knows who these other teams are.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Well, what are the teams?
Speaker 7 (17:52):
Like the other teams playing in the Olympics and women's basketball,
they have good attendance. Why don't the US women had?
Why didn't they have good attendants for like that opening game?
And I'm seeing I can't really see. I've seen some
empty seats. I see empty seats galore at this game.
And I don't get it because the US Women, if
you want to go watch the best of the best,
these this team is the best with Kaitlin Clark or
no Kaitlyn Clark. So I don't understand why, like the
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people in Paris are not going to these games of
the US Women.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I don't know. My guess again, and this is sheerly.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Spiting the team as well, because there's no Kaitlin Clark.
Do they somehow know about this and they're like, well,
we're not going to show up because there's no Kaitlyn Clark.
And if you love Kaitlyn Clark in a French.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Accent, M.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
No, I again, this is just yeah, you guys have
ever been in the Olympics. No, Nope, me neither. Okay.
Just to guess, though, most people go to see their
home country play, right unless they're just gigantic stars. And
I don't think they have any gigantic stars. I don't
think anybody cares about them, and I think most of
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us are like eh, I would guess that that's a
reflection of Americans not showing up.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
I could I could see, like, you know, you're taking
a trip from Germany to France, from Spain to France.
You know, all of those are like I would assume
like a train ride or you could take a two
hour flight or less and get to Paris and watch
your team. But I don't know. I feel like there's
probably a good amount of Americans over in Paris. But yeah,
they're not showing.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Up for the games.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
They're showing up not for the.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
Yeah, they're showing up for other events.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Let me, uh, there's your answer.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Let me let me offer another answer. And I'm going
to use a French term. You guys know what fate
complay means. Fate yea something that has already been determined. Yes,
I don't know. If you're winning every game by fifty points,
maybe that's just not very interesting.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
Yeah, I think that. Yeah, more parody between these teams
or the US and whoever team they're facing. There's more
parody in their close games. I guess people would tune
in to see them, like Jason possibly fail and lose.
But they're wiping the floor with everybody. So yeah, it's
not really interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
We do like interesting. Faye de complay fy Dick Crumpy.
We come from France. Hey, Dick compley.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
This is the best of the Don dot Lead Show
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Stuck Atleeb Show, Fox Sports Radio, Mike Silver. The San
Francisco Chronicle reports that brand Ayuk's decision to show up
for training camp but not practice is bothering Kyle Shanahan
because it's perceived as Ayuk brooding while in around the building.
The Niners could play hardball with Ayuk telling him he
must practice and prepare to play for fourteen point one
(20:37):
million this year or be fined for conduct detrimental to
the team. At some point between now and Week one,
they'll need to tell them it's time to get to work. Still,
there's a way to be present and also way to
be a pain in the ass without being an overt
paying the ass Auk seems to have found the sweet spot,
but apparently it's hitting a raw nerve with Shanahan. Look
at some point, and again I can speak to this coaching.
(21:00):
You got to know are you in or y out?
Are you in and your out? That's really what this
kind of comes down to. Are you in or are
you out? And there was a story earlier today that
they were trying to figure out a deal with the
Pittsburgh Steelers. That story has not come in terms of
there's no been no fruition to that in terms of
(21:23):
no trade has been made, but we're getting close to that,
you know what, or get off the pot stage for anybody, anybody,
Brandon Ayuk is no different than anybody else. Talented, but
no different than anybody else. And if not the Steelers,
then we're talking. You know, he didn't want to go
(21:44):
to Heat clear didn't want to go to the Patriots,
And I just don't think the really good teams. I
think the Steelers is a hard fit. But with Pickens
and his attitude, they can go up and down. The
fact that they don't have an elite level quarterback, but
maybe that means they're always going to go cheap on
the quarterbacks and put great personnel around him. Maybe that's
their new philosophy. But I get it. How do you
(22:06):
get how you round but not a Debbie Downer? How
much can they share with you knowing that you might
or might not be there when it gets to be real,
real football season Stug Gottlieb Show Here on Fox Sports Radio.
Dante Whittner joins this. They called him Dante Hitner back
(22:26):
when he was a Pro bowler, three time Pro Bowl
in the Nation Football League. He also covers the entire NFL
for NBC Sports Bay Area. He's a former Niner and
a former Bill Let me ask you your opinion of
Ayuk and of the Niners and the entirety of the situation.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
In my opinion, Brendon Ayuk is the top five wide
receiver currently in the NFL, and I gauze that based
on his amount of targets, his production, and last year
he was all pro, is the best downfield threat for
the forty nine Ers, and if they lose him to
the Steelers or Washington or whoever's involved, it'll be a
(23:03):
big loss in a hard position to be able to
cover up with the loss of Brandon au.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
So why not extend them.
Speaker 9 (23:12):
Well, the forty nine Ers and their star players over
the last few years have had contract disputes. You can
go back to Nick Bosa last year, you can go
to Deebo Samuel before that, and you can go to
Fred Warner before that. So this happens a lot with
the forty nine ers. But I believe that they do
value Brandon Ayuk, and it's just a mind game, contractual
(23:33):
mind game that's going on between the forty nine Ers
and Brandon and Ayuk and his representatives.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
What's the mind game.
Speaker 9 (23:42):
Get him to take roughly twenty four to twenty five
million dollars a year and not really what he's actually
valued at, and to say, hey, go out and you
can find a deal somewhere else. And then Brandon Ayuk
understands that you're only valuable as a wide receiver if
you have an offensive line and a quarterback that can
get you to football, and a lot of these places
haven't really shown that they've developed the quarterback and an
(24:04):
offensive an offensive strategic system to get the football downfield.
So I think that's probably where he is with it.
He wants to grow with Brock Purbey.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Okay, So how do you balance that out as a
player where you can have way more success playing with
a team that is likely going to pay you less money.
How do you balance that out?
Speaker 9 (24:26):
Well, I look at it like this. You're looking at
the guaranteed money nowadays when you look at the NFL contracts,
if you do a five six year contract, the last
two years are pretty much fluff. The teams and the
organizations don't really expect you to perform at the high
level that you are when they paid you five years
four years down the row. So it's a lot about
getting that guaranteed money up front. So if I'm Brandon,
(24:49):
iuke I really go into a short term deal with
a lot of guaranteed money, probably all three years guaranteed,
and then you're right back at the table, and then
you have a proven offensive for low under Kyle Shanahan
in an up and coming quarterback in the NFL, you
couldn't be in a better place. Otherwise, you go to
the Steelers and they can't get it right, and you
(25:10):
go to another team like Cleveland and they don't get
it right. On the off of the side of the
ball you played two years, three years, they're looking to
trade you, or they're looking to cut those top players
that are making the most money off of the team
when they don't perform. So if I was Brandon n you,
I would figure out a way to get it done
with the forty nine Ers and then get back to
the table three four years down the road for another contract.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Do you think that happens.
Speaker 9 (25:34):
I do think it happens. I think that when you
look at the entirety of the forty nine ers offense,
of course it all runs through Christian McCaffrey and the
offensive line, But when you really look at the plays
that were made last year in big moments in the playoffs,
Brandon and I you came through on a lot of
those third and shorts, fourth and shores, and he's their
number one target. So I do think they value him.
(25:55):
I think that he was a little emotional in the
way that he handled it early on, communicate through the
media and telling people how the forty nine ers don't
want them. You have to understand when you're a young
guy that these are tactics that teams use to get
their favorable deals. So I think that they'll figure out
a way to get it done.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Rady, that's the
voice of Dante Whittner joining us. Okay, what about Rock Perdy.
What have you seen from him in camp this year?
Speaker 9 (26:21):
Well, he was taking full command of this offense last
year coming back off of injury. We saw him sputter
sometimes through the season, but he did get it done
in the playoffs. Right now, he's looking phenomenal. And there
were two days where he had multiple interceptions on multiple throws.
I think there was a day when he had three
interceptions and he followed it up the following day with
four interceptions. I don't really look at those things because
(26:44):
when they game plan and Kyle Shanahan sits with Rock
Purty in the quarterbacks in that room, they know exactly
where to go with the football, and he has all
the tools and the capabilities. I think that the forty
nine or faithful would just like to see him step
it up sometimes late in those games and pull it
out like maybe a Tom Radio or Aaron Rodgers could.
But other than that, he's right on course to be
(27:04):
a top paid, top performing quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
How much pressure is for them to finally get over
that hump and to get to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 9 (27:13):
There's an immense amount of pressure for the forty nine
ers to get over the hump. And it started back
in twenty twelve, and we get so close, and they
get so close, and then something happens to where you know,
they relinquished the whole Layton football games. And we saw it,
I believe three four or five years ago against Patrick
Mahomes late in the game turned long to Tyreek. Hell,
(27:34):
you squandered that lead. This time they were driving late
in the game, you get a blown blocking assignment by
Spencer Bufor and you don't get an easy touchdown. So
it's just about the continued growth of everybody involved. And
then when you get to the playoffs in those big games,
you have to make plays to get over the hump.
So there's immense pressure on the forty nine ers because
(27:54):
that window is starting to close.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports. Ready, that's the
voice of Dante Whittner joining us. The players voted on
that NFL dot com poll. They voted Lamar Jackson ahead
of Pat Mahomes in terms of best players in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Do you agree?
Speaker 9 (28:17):
I do not agree. I think that the number one
player in the NFL should have been Patrick Mahomes and
then number two could have been Tyreek Heel. But when
you're a quarterback that consistently leads your team and organization
to the super Bowl and you perform well in late moments,
high pressure moments, I think you deserve to be the
number one player in the NFL. And it's all about
winning championships. So I agree that Patrick Mahomes he should
(28:40):
have been number one, But I never really got into
that list. I've never voted as a player for the
top one hundred players, so I don't know if they
picked selected players and coaches and front office members to
vote on that, but I've never voted on it. And
Johnson from Chicago was absolutely right. There's no way that
Aaron Rodgers should be on the if he didn't play
(29:01):
last year. So I think that Johnson should have also
been included on that list, And I've never really gotten
into it, you know, just a bunch of opinions, but
the guys that are in the top five definitely deserve
to be there.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Okay, speaking of Aaron Rodgers, what type of year do
you think he has coming off an Achilles ten and tear?
All reports our arm looks great, but you tell me,
what do you think?
Speaker 9 (29:22):
Well, with all the psychedelics that he's been doing, clearing
out his aura, you know, losing the game for a year,
probably let a flame under him like he hasn't had
in a long time. And then you know, a guy
like Aaron Rodgers, he's into people doubting him, right, So
when you doubt a guy like that and a guy
like Tom Brady, they really get off on coming out
(29:44):
and proving everybody wrong. So I think he's going to
have a phenomenal year. You have Gary Wilson down there,
who's going to be his number one threat, Ohio State guy.
He's ready to take the next step. So I think
that the New York Jets and their fan base should
get ready for an incredible year from Aaron Rodgers and
net organization did you.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Have a chance to watch Hard Knocks ad Al.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
I didn't have a chance to watch it at all,
maybe a couple of years ago. But you know, nowadays
there's so much, you know, with the reality TV. I
think a lot of it is planned. I don't really
get into it too much.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
No, No, I only ask because I did watch the first
first episode of The Bears of the Bears one, and
they've added just a bunch of new pieces, right, kind
of like a whole new offense to go along with
the rookie quarterback to a defense that improved dramatically. Does
that work? Right? Does just going out and getting more
talent and getting a new quarterback? Does that work in
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the short term?
Speaker 9 (30:37):
No, you have to have continuity. You have to have
veteran players that all understand second and third level thinking
when it comes to football. For example, if you have
a young secondary, they can be talented at all they want.
But if you don't know how to deceive quarterbacks based
on with in depth perception, if you don't know how
to do it with your shoulders and read steps, if
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you don't underst and how to split the field, it's
going to be difficult to be quarterbacks that are at
the top of the game and have seen every coverage,
So you know, I really don't agree that just because
they go and draft the Heisman winning quarterback and had
a couple of pieces that is going to finally get
them over to hump. There are teams that understand what
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it means to practice hard and be able to persevere
through tough situations and perform in the moment. And then
you have teams who subcumb to a lot of that
pressure and pain. And you know, and I believe that
the Chicago Bears will be another one of those teams
this year that will succumb to that. Eventually. I think
that Caleb Williams will lead them to some success, but
(31:39):
I don't think it's going to happen overnight.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Big story today is Jalen Hurts apparently a lack of
respect for his head coach, Nick Sirianni is an excellent
owing and kind of did his own thing last year.
Where do you said, as a guy who sat in
those film rooms but analyze as well, where do you
sit on Jalen Hurts not paying attention to his coach
leading to an awkward relationship.
Speaker 9 (32:02):
Well, I think that when you have these type of
stories that are released. I have to think that a
lot of it is probably made up and some of
it is probably true. And when you think about the
fan base in Philadelphia and how rugged and tough they
are on their fan base, there's many stories that are
going to come out of there. Everything is great when
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you're winning, when you struggle with that type of fan base,
you're going to get all type of stories. I think
that they've shown that they can work together and have success.
They've shown what their formula lais. Last year, Jalen Hurst
was maybe injured a little bit, so he didn't have
the productivity that he had the previous year. But I
think that, you know, true professionals, working grown man will
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find a way to get over the hump. They have
all the talent in the NFC and maybe the entire NFL,
and if they can just find a way to work
together and not allow the emotions or the personal to
get to interfere with the game of football, you can
expect the Philadelphia Eagles to be competing with the forty
nine ers for that top spot in the NFC. So
I don't really get into that a lot. I think
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that knowing who Jalen hurts Is and what he's accomplished,
and the trials and tribulations and how he persevere. I
think that he'll figure out a way to be professionally
and get some wins on the board.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Okay, let me ask you about the Green Bay Packers,
really young team. Jordan Love gets his deal, how does
that season play out.
Speaker 9 (33:25):
I think that can come back and bite them. If
you watch them. In the first eight games of the season,
he looked average and below average. He did catch fire.
Some of those games were against the low average defenses
and secondaries, and then when you get in the playoffs,
anything can happen. I think that the Green Bay Packers
probably should have waited another year before they paid Jordan Love,
(33:47):
But I just totally see it backfiring on those guys.
I do have a lot of respect for their defensive
coordinator who I play for and the Cleveland Browns, and
you know he was at Ohio State. I think that
he's going to do a great job. I understand his philosophy,
the three to four system. He understands the width and
(34:07):
depth of the safety is how to manipulate quarterbacks. So
if they can really get that defense going, anything can happen.
But I don't see Jordan Love starting the season, you know,
going through the middle of season and finishing the way
he finished off last year.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Trader. That's the
voice of Dante Hitner. Whitner, you got a guy who's
better educated on actually playing and covering the league, and
we're opinioned. Good luck find him. He's awesome and you
can find him here as well as NBC Sports Bay Area. Dante,
you're the best man.
Speaker 9 (34:37):
Thanks for joining us, all right, Doug, thanks for having
me look forward to the next time.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
No no doubts, and look, Dante's a guy who, like
he didn't care if you agree with this opinion. His opinion.
He played a really high level, he analyzed a really
high level, and I don't agree with everything he says,
by respect, it has come from a place of actual knowledge,
not not hot taking stuff. It's awesome.
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Sam on the ones and twos. It's the middle of
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(35:49):
summer does that to you?
Speaker 7 (35:50):
Right?
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Let's get to the midway.
Speaker 8 (36:03):
Is that getting.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
It's time for the midway? All right? Dear okay, dear guys,
what do you think they're a kidding? Topic wise? We
doing Olympics? Is that what you guys want to do?
Our favorite Olympics storylines? Is that? Is that what I'm
(36:26):
feeling for you guys or stories thus far? You guys
want to flush, flush this one out, or you guys
all decided.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I think that's interesting because you and I have both
said on the record that we weren't going to watch
the Olympics. We had no interest in watching the Olympics
other than the men's basketball. I think you and I
are both on the we're both on the same page.
But inevitably, if you follow sports and you follow on Twitter,
you get wrapped up into these storylines or moments or
(36:54):
see things go viral, and you do end up paying
attention to the Olympics. I'm not watching it in a
linear fashion now, Sam and MATSI, I think do seek
it out. If I don't want to speak for either
of you, but don't you two seek out events and
watch events?
Speaker 7 (37:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think basketball and maybe women's soccer.
Speaker 6 (37:18):
I've saw it out. I'm like, oh, that's on, let's
watch that.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
If I'm at home and they're doing the replays at
night on NBC they encore performances.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
I'm not.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
I mean, I've had it on the other night, watch
some badminton that was fun. I'm not. I'm not, you know,
I'm not fully one hundred percent into this Olympics.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
I'm enjoying it though. Yeah, that's how I am.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
I don't know if I'm seeking it out, but definitely,
if something's on and I sit.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
And watch it, I'm into it.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
I may not know what is happening in front of me,
but I'm into it.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
For example, So my most memorable moment of the last
ten days of the Olympics was Noah Lyles and the
hundred yard dash. Okay, he won by point zero zero
zero five of a second. I think each of the
runners finished an under under ten seconds. I guess that's
(38:09):
a big deal. I like the fact that Lee Diffy,
the play by play announcer, completely botched the call and
was as clumsy in his apology and explanation. I like,
see that was cool because that was all over Twitter
and there are a lot of memes and stuff. And
then this Noah Lyles guy. I guess he was the
(38:30):
same character who said that winning a gold medal is
a lot better than winning an NBA championship because it's
not a world championship. In the NBA, it's not war,
it's just the country's championship, so a gold medal is
more significant. He was that guy. I found that out
because of that one hundred yard death. I appreciate all
that from Noah Lyles.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
So is that your Is that your storyline that you want?
Speaker 4 (38:55):
That's that's my that's my.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
That you're watching the Olympics more or the.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
I'm not watching the Olympics anymore than I thought I would,
but that one thing caught my interest, so it forced
me to pay attention.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Okay, mon's your favorite storyline story about the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Okay, So this, I mean not the answer that you're expecting,
but I think what my favorite thing that has happened
from the Olympics is all of those videos of people
saying sorry, I didn't make the Olympics, and it's them
just eating you know what, trying to.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Perform, whether it's swimming, gym not whatever.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
Have you seen those videos, Doug, They're like, yeah, I
didn't Oh, I'm going to send it to you.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
So it's like.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
People are posting themselves trying to do gymnastics or swim diving,
the whole thing, and it's like, yeah, I guess I
didn't make the Olympics and it's.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Because they eat you know what.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
And it's so hilarious.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
And I feel like because of social media, This is
the first time I've seen this during an Olympic period,
and it's just so so funny seeing us normal people
out there making fools out of ourselves when it comes
to the level of letticism that we're seeing on TV.
So my favorite things.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
So far are all of those videos.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
That are popping up of people just not making it
the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
I thought you were referring to the phenomenon that's totally
separate than what you're talking about, the phenomenon of people
posting actual Olympics fails like the diver.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Oh yeah, that's so funny.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Resume's that's a.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Thing I enjoy. That actually a great deal.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
I'm what's the light on his resume?
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Must have light on it.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
Yes, I've seen that one too.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
I'm gonna I'm gonna text you guys all this one
because this one has a bunch of videos. But it's
just so funny and I feel like this is my
favorite part of the Olympics so far.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Right now, Okay, you are such a volleyball hump.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
I do love volleyboo ball.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
No, of course I love volleyball.
Speaker 6 (40:52):
But you know this is too funny. This is too funny.
Speaker 7 (40:55):
Uh, Sam I'm going to start off with a general
general thing here. The United States is kicking some serious
ass at these Olympics. If you look at the overall
medal leaders in terms of country, the USA is at
ninety one medals one, China sixty two, and France forty nine.
But here's a kicker. So we're the best in that.
(41:17):
We are also two gold medals ahead of China twenty
six to twenty four, and in distant third places Australia.
Australia loves to kick our butts in any sport that
they can when they get a chance a shot at
the US. And we know that the competition, the competitive
nature between the USA and China and the US in
Russia and China and Russia, it's all very competitive. Like
we're financial economic adversaries and we're Olympic adversaries. So this
(41:43):
is I've heard a lot of US athletes very very
proud to have medaled or won of gold, have that
USA across their chest, and I just have to play this.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
I think this will be a memorable.
Speaker 7 (41:57):
Olympics that the Americans definitely don't forget because of how
well we've done it.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
It's been it's been very Uh, very patriotic.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
To see how well the US is done gold medals
and overall metals.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
My god, Doug, have you looked at the video Manzi
sent us. No, this is right up your rally. So
Doug always talks about there are three people that when
they see people hurting themselves online.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (42:22):
The person who says I need I can't watch it enough. Yeah,
person says I watch.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I can't see it ever. Yeah, I only see it
once just to catalog it, and I can't stop watching it.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
I think Mancy obviously falls in the category of I
can't stop watching this stuff because I at least the
second entry and I'm like, oh, I can't watch these
This is people hurting themselves.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
No, No, this is a young woman jumping off of
a one meter Look, get.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
The next one, the gymnastics one.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Oh, there's another one. Scroll.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
I can't be alive after that, right, she can't be
alive after that.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
But she's on the uneven parallel bars and she just
lets go and she's okay.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
She's okay, but her body parts aren't going the right.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Where is this one going?
Speaker 9 (43:11):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Then it's amazing.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
On that third one.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
No, she's she's not probably not a big woman, but
she's clearly too big for gymnastics, and she what is
this a round off back ran off handspring?
Speaker 6 (43:31):
But she want to her knees, both meniscus gone. Everything
that's part of your knee, it's gone.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
In that moment, I'm out. Sorry, God, you guys.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
Can I can't even watch past the first video because
I don't have Instagram, so I can only see the backflop.
So ah, Instagram, I am nature that type would be
like I don't want to watch someone breaking their leg.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
I want to avert my eyes. They're not breaking the
I know.
Speaker 7 (43:56):
But so since I can't see the second videos and
beyond that's like, it's okay because I don't have Instagram,
so it works out.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
I'm sorry I can't Monsie, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
I was doing such a.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Good job of being like locked in on this crap
and then this radio show and then now I'm I
don't even know what we're talking about or who I am.
My favorite part of the Olympics storyline.
Speaker 6 (44:25):
Oh wait, I see the videos.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Now there you go, there you go say goodbye to
Sam for the next five minutes. Yeah, he's gone. I'm
gonna wrack my brain here on things that I like
the best. I mean, the Djokovic winning on clay when
the gold medal was pretty amazing.
Speaker 6 (44:43):
That is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah, it was, It was really amazing. I thought last
night's Australia Serbia quarterfinal match, which Serbia came from twenty
four down to win an overtime, was awesome. But the
best one's probably, honest, See, the best one is the swimmer,
the French swimmer who's annihilated everything.
Speaker 6 (45:04):
And then I Leon Machamp.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah, but then they show Michael Phelps in the studio
like cheering for him, and I just I wanted to
ask you, guys, like if you hold all these world
records and you're watching somebody take down your world records.
Like again, I got to know Michael Phelps lot last year.
By this time, I do this dinner every year in
LA at the Beverly Hilton and we raise money for
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cancer research and the good thing out with Michael that night,
and I was like, what a great dude, Like he
really has like kind of found out who he is
here now with having kids and being married to be
away from the sport. But man, what a dude to
be cheering for other people to break your world records.
I can tell you right now. If I have world
records and somebody is trying to beat them, I am
doing that. No no, no, no, no no. All right, Jason,
(45:55):
have you seen any of this Michael Phelps cheering for
him to beat his world records?
Speaker 4 (45:59):
I have not seen that video.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
No, And it just it doesn't look fake, which is
what's really nice about it. He seems genuinely excited for.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
The dude midway full of beard, right, full beard and
long hair.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
Yeah, not about long hair, but the beard is very
full and very long.
Speaker 7 (46:16):
Yeah right now he could he make a great extra
as like a pirate in a pirate movie with that beard.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
Yeah, he looks very pirate esque. Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Are we done making pirate movies? I thought, how many?
How many Pirates of the Caribbeans did we get with?
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Oh no, because Johnny Depp was uncanceled. I think he's
negotiating for another one.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
He's back.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
He was uncanceled.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
The great thing about that series is it's a lot
like the all the Marvel ones, like you can never
really die, you know. They if they kill off your character,
you just go to the metaverse and then you're back.
You know, it's the same thing with with Pirates of
the Caribbean. You can come back as the ghost. Fine,
that's if you're ever going to get into a series
(46:57):
and you're not the lead character. I think you should
get into a series in which you can be brought
back to life, like a Marvel one and like a
fantasy one like Pirates of the Caribbean.
Speaker 6 (47:10):
I got a couple more things? Can we do a couple?
Speaker 7 (47:12):
Okay, did you quickly did you guys see the video
of Lebron thinking that the crowd was cheering for him, Yes,
when it was really Leon Marchamp.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
I have not seen it, but I heard Bron.
Speaker 6 (47:22):
Sort of like putting his arms in the air and
he's like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Yeah, yeah, I'm good. He did the cool Yeah, like yeah,
I'm good. I thanks, thanks so much for all the recognition.
Speaker 7 (47:31):
And last but not least here, last but not least here,
I want to kind of celebrate the bronze medal.
Speaker 6 (47:38):
And I know that's third place.
Speaker 7 (47:39):
It's still a medal though, But Iowa is not known
for its track and field like internationally. Maybe they went
an outdoor competition every once in a while, but former
Hawkeye athlete Britney Brown. She won the bronze medal in
the two hundred meter and then she becomes the first
woman in Iowa cross country and track and field due
you saw that earn an individual individual Olympic medals, So
(48:00):
I think that's awesome. And you got the women, the
American women winning the bronze and rugby, and you had
Grant Fisher who took the bronze in the ten thousand
meter dashed twenty five times around the track to become
the first American man to do that in like fifty
six years.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
So does anybody have any idea how boring that is?
Speaker 7 (48:16):
That's a lot of run, that's a lot of you
got to be just gassed after that. You're sprinting that whole.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
It's not just the running, it's the going around to
track twenty.
Speaker 6 (48:23):
Five twenty five times.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
But good for him, Like that's the boring ist trapped
there actually ever has been.
Speaker 6 (48:29):
Hey man, I'm going to celebrate that bronze medal.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
I'm not disreading I No, I'm actually giving you more credit.
Like I think that's harder than running a marathon, at
least the marathon. Ever, the topography changes, right, Oh yeah,
And you're looking around, like just running around the same
loop like hm, hmmm, was that twenty two or twenty one?
I can't remember. I just yeah, I'd be done after that. Yeah, agreed, Agreed,
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