September 13, 2024 • 41 mins
On a Friday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug gives his opinion of what Tua Tagovailoa should do next as he suffered a bad concussion on Thursday night.\
Doug welcomes former Bucs' GM Mark Dominik onto the show to discuss the situation with Tua Tagovailoa, what the Dolphins do next, and all of the other headlines around the NFL.
Doug and the crew predict what the Dolphins will do next at quarterback.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
Thanks for listening to the best of the Doug Gottlieb
Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday
three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.
Find your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at
boxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day
on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR boom Up America
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fine Sports Radio Broadcast Libroth, The tiret
(00:26):
dot Com Studios tirect dot com let me get there
unmatched election fast free shipping, free road as a production
over ten thousand recommended dollars tyrect dot com Sway tire
buying should be welcome in. This show is sponsored by DraftKings.
Stay tuned you'll hear more about DraftKings it all has
to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, The Crown is yours,
(00:46):
all right, I'm gonna play free a bunch of sound,
we'll talk about it a lot, and I'm gonna tell
you a couple of things which we all know are true,
even if we won't want to admit it. And uh,
it's all revolving around to a tongue Iloa who unfortunately
got a concussion last night as part of the loss
by the Miami Dolphins to the Buffalo Bills. It should
(01:11):
be pointed out and this has nothing to do with
the decision that he'll have to make or he and
his team will have to make in regards to what
his future looks like. It should be pointed out though,
that I've never been a to a guy in the
NFL in terms of his I just don't think his
ceilings that high. And I you know, I remember it
(01:33):
was like a year and a half ago or a
year and three quarters ago when Emmanuel Acho was on
Fox Sports one saying that that Justin Herbert was a
what was it social media quarterback or something, and that
Tua Tongue Bilo it was actually like an MVP candidate.
(01:54):
I went to the game, and if you watch the two,
those two men play quarterback, and you think there's any
way of comparing Tua Tongue Bailoa was with with Justin Herbert,
and I don't know what you're watching, but he's widely
regarded as an incredible human being. And remember he's been
(02:16):
kind of a sympathetic figure this year, considering how he
relayed that Brian Flora as their former head coach treated him.
So two was the guy who came in off the
bench and won the National Championship Game. Two was the
guy who was seen is better than Jalen Hurts, and
so Jalen Hurts had to lead. Tua was the guy
that the league won to tank for. Two was the
guy who in some ways was in many ways is
(02:40):
the reason Brian Flores was fired because he didn't buy
into Tua and the way he treated to and the
rest of the front office saw that, and they of
course wanted to draft Tua and they did. And so
you're basically saying all your opinions stink. And now two
is the guy who has a decision to make whether
or not he's gonna return to the Nation Football League
(03:03):
this year or ever. Ever. Here's Mike McDaniel when he
talked to reporters this morning about the quarterback future.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I totally understand it, and it's not misplaced. I totally
get how that's where people want to go to. I
just wish that people would for seconds hear what I'm
saying that bringing up his future is not the best
interest of him.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
HM. Here's he was asked about the quarterback's future, so
is Mantiteya, a longtime friend of two of them. Ambre
Mantitea now has joined Good Morning Football in the NFL network.
Here's what he had to say this morning.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
After he suffered the one against the Bengals. I wanted
him to walk that that that when I saw him
have to be carted off the field. Yeah, I wanted
him to walk like that was m hm, yep, that
was hard. Pro Like what people have to understand is
this is just a game, you know, and then and
(04:06):
then there's a life. And when you watch when you
watch a young man that you've known since she was
a little boy go out there, you know, yeah, is hard.
Is it hard for me? Yeah, but I can't imagine
how it is for Uncle Nahlu and Auntie Diana watch
their son again go down. And you know, khalais mentioned
it was so good to watch him stand up for
(04:26):
somebody that's been in that situation where I've had a concussion.
I don't even know if two is there as he's
walking off the field, Like there's been clips of me
after concussions getting off the ground and walking off the stadium,
walking into the locker room. I don't remember those walks.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I get it, but I'd also point out, this is
what we're doing with all of this, and it's very
natural to do. It is we're putting ourselves in the
shoes of two a tongue of by law. We're living
our own life through to it. When this is totally
you know, I'm not saying that Mantai didn't have concussions
and any of this stuff is made up, not in
(05:03):
any way. But I don't know if that's the experience
of to a tongue of Bayoloa. I don't Here's Antonio Pierce.
Of course they're a former linebacker in the NFL. Because
the Raiders head coach talking about to his future.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I'll be honest, I'll just sudden retire. It's not worth it,
It's not worth to play the game. I haven't witnessed
anything like I've seen. This happened to him three times.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Scary.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
You can see right away the players faces on the field.
You can see the sense urgency from everybody to get
to a help. I just think at some point, you know,
he don't live longer, and he's don't play football, take
care of your family.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So it does feel like again you have football players
and former football players saying like, what are you doing here?
Plus he just signed the new contract, which would be settled.
But I also know that one of the things that
has made football players different is they've known this, they've
known what could happen, and they've still gone and down
it anyway. I mean running a lot cut off part
of his fingers, so he could play in a playoff game,
(05:57):
Like what are we doing here? You know? So I
don't know. My big thing is I don't think we
can insert ourselves our own lives, our own thoughts, our
own dreams, our own wishes, or what we think he
should do into his life. I think we just got
to let him handle that one. Well. It's true former
(06:17):
football players, good friends can get good advice. My guess
is he didn't play the rest this year. That's my guess.
In times of retirement. I don't think he makes that
decision in the short term. I think it becomes a
decision that's made further down the road, and there's a
strong possibility he does shut it down. Does Could he
(06:37):
try to come back one more time? Maybe maybe and
make it about and you know, when he comes back,
he'd make it about the Dolphins they're belief in him
giving him the contract despite the fact this could happen.
But this is also one of the reasons that people said,
don't give that contract. Dan Byer, what would you do?
You're to a tongue of Bailoa, a good team. And
(07:01):
here's the thing. If you say, well the doctors tell him.
If you want to find a doctor that can make
that can make it so that you can play, you
will find a doctor. You will find a doctor. If
you want to find a doctor that says you should
never play, you will find a doctor. Byer, what do you.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Think, Well, there's a couple of things.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
And I may not be taking this head on to
what you're you're asking, but because as he said, all
of this is speculation.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
On what we think is going to happen. What would
I do with Tua, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
I can't even can't even fathom a guess on it.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
But what I do know is he can't protect himself
right now.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
That play last night was so avoidable, absolutely avoidable, and
you would hope that after last season, in trying to
manage a season where there wasn't that big injury, he
was able to make it through that we didn't see
this again that maybe Tua actually learned from it. I'm
(08:04):
not trying to blame him for it, but last night
didn't have to happen. Last year was an example of
how you can get through the season in maybe trying
to protect yourself in certain ways because the year prior,
there were what three instances where you know, the first
game they had against the Bills in twenty twenty two,
the obvious one that Mantaiteya was just talking about with Cincinnati,
(08:26):
and then there was the Christmas Day Packers game where
he also suffered that that concussion. So I thought that
maybe Tua had learned and figured out a way to
do so. But if you can't protect yourself, let alone
anybody else on your team, yeah, I don't know if
I'd want to play anymore. And that may be the
reason why Tua wants to play, because he still thinks
(08:48):
he can, but he's the one that's hurting himself.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Last night did not have to happen.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Case too. What do you think?
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Yeah, I think I was. I thought the exact same
thing that Anthon and I think this should be baked
into his decision or whoever's going to make the decision.
For him, because I think there is a legitimate question
of whether or not you should allow him to make
the decision if his head is scrambled multiple times, is
(09:17):
he of the right mind to make a decision like this,
and that that thing where he can't protect himself should
be baked into this decision. You know, anybody else that
has had multiple concussions, you have a decision to make
about your future. But there's a history now of him
not being able to protect himself, and I think that
(09:37):
that that is a part, a big part of this.
I just I did not see any reason for doing
what he did last night. Right, he had already gotten
the first down. There's just no reason to not slide there.
And if, like Dan says, if he was making these
decisions last year and he was going fine, I don't
know why he decided to do that last night. And
(10:00):
I'm going to use this example from a personal standpoint.
My son has balance is shoes. He's on the spectrum
and he has balance issues, and he does a lot
of athletic things, but inevitably he falls. He's broken the
exact same elbow five times. It's a miserable situation that
I can't stand and I hate seeing him go through this.
(10:23):
But he breaks his fall, he breaks his elbow, and
if I'm to his parents, I'm in the same shoes.
He obviously can't protect himself.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
Sam, So after he did like the martial arts training
to help, you know, buffer his falls and stuff or
soften the blows of his falls. You know, he had
a clean year last year. But my question is like,
did we really think this wouldn't happen again. I mean,
if he's going to play, you know, ten to fifteen
years in the NFL, of course it's going to happen again.
I was thinking this last night that if he does
(11:00):
decide to continue his career after sitting out, I don't know,
half the season or the full season, maybe comes back
next year. He should be the first guy to really
celebrate and sport the you know, the Guardian cap, and
we should celebrate it. And there's nothing, nothing at all
that's unmanly or woosy about protecting your brain. Yeah, he's
(11:21):
gonna look like Marvin the Martian out there, but I
think that all these guys are gonna end up wearing
these at some point. So he could be the first
quarterback in the NFL to really celebrate it and sport it,
and he has to show us. There's gonna be a
lot of pressure on him from the outside. He has
to show us that he's trying to protect his brain safety.
So if he does continue his career, that's totally up
to him. I agree with Jason that maybe it's not
(11:42):
completely his decision, but I do think at the end
of the day, if he wants to continue his career,
he should be the one to decide that. But he
needs to he needs to protect protect himself more with
actual materials in the future.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
No question he's gonna ultimately he'll have to make the call,
but you know there'll be a steady amount of pressure.
And look, you heard that from Anti Tea. I have
no doubt that he's getting to get a ton of
pressure from people close to him to shut it down.
But I thought all of you guys made the really
good point. While you look yesterday, it wasn't like it
(12:16):
was a direct helmet to helmet hit. It wasn't some violent,
violent collision, and that only shows where he is now
in that it doesn't take a lot. And again, this
is kind of classic multiple concussions, where the more you have,
the easier it is to get the next one, and
with every next one it becomes more damaging, and then
(12:37):
we haven't even gotten to Like it's not like you
can tell people to stop tackling him. Eventually he'll get
tackled and his head will hit the dirt. And his
head hits the dirt, it feels like it's the autoconcussion.
So I think we all know what the decision will
ultimately be. It's just a question of how long will
it take him to get there and will he try
it one more time before he does? Does that make sense?
Speaker 7 (12:57):
Dan?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Does that?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I mean, I just feel like that stuff.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
You know. I love that.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Sam pointed up that at some point this was probably
going to happen again, and this happened again in a
nationally televised game, you know, the standalone game, and the
visual aspect of the of the hits is jarring. It
really is. I have one more thing. It just looked
(13:22):
like he reverted back to bad habits. Was they were
down thirty one to ten, he was going to pick
up a first down. So instead of like Mahomes is
always so conscious of his body and like where he
is on the field and like what he's going to
do next, And I feel like Tua in that moment
was desperate just to get them to score. So he
kind of sloppily goes out running and then just goes
bareling into DeMar Hamlin head first, and he just all
(13:45):
of the things he learned last year with the martial
arts training just went out the window. And so it's
like guys sometimes are desperate, they lose control of their bodies.
They're just trying to get a first down or score
a touchdown, and they don't think about like the physics
of it, and he ended up really hurting himself.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, it's called game slippage, Sam, where you result you
you know you you regress to the mean. That's really
what happens. You regress to the mean. It's sad. It
just it just is because by all accounts, really good dude.
And yeah, he had had some sympathy a lot of
people because of how he said Brian Flora has treated him.
(14:23):
But there's also the football reality to it, which is
this is why so many people told the Dolphins, like,
don't give him some big long term deal. Now there
are some injury stuff, and you if he retires, you
can get it off the books, whatever. But that was
that that's not pretty. And how about the fact this
is Deamar Hamlin.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Like all people poetry poetry.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It was super ironic that it's Damar Hamlin of all people,
who makes just an innocuous tackle and ends up believing
in the concussion.
Speaker 8 (14:53):
Yeah, there's nothing at all. Like his tackle was just
like him putting his body in the way of Tua
to stop him from progressing. So it's like, you know,
there's nothing. Yeah, no, nothing at all. It was Tua
running his head first into tomorrow. It was just a bad,
bad situation.
Speaker 9 (15:06):
This is the best of the Done dot Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Hey, what up with your Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio.
It's a Friday, you ain't got nothing to do? Said,
let's do us on the radio. We're taking you all
the way up into the weekend, all the weekhead on
the Fox Sports Radio. We're broadcasting live from the tirag
dot com studios tyrek dot com where we get there
unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free road as a protection
of ten thousan recommend It's allars diirat dot com. It's
(15:35):
the way tire by jed Me got some football games night,
Sunflower State two games. Do you guys see this? I
know Byer did, because Byron and I were all locked
in on the college football uh KU hosting UNLB, who
kind of curiously has yet to get the call regarding
(15:56):
the PAC twelve or the new PAC ten or whatever
it's gonna be called. And then Kansas State plays at
home and they play an hour apart, and I think
now kay is playing the soccer stadium again tonight. Right
they're playing where Case United I think plays, which is
out near Kuah. It's kind of on the western side
(16:19):
of a loop of Kansas City on the way to
Lawrence because the redoing their stadium. And then k State
plays Arizona, which is technically eight two Big twelve teams,
but it's not a Big twelve game because it's previously
previously scheduled home and home. So we got some college
football last night. We had NFL football and a reminder
of the show's sponsored by Draft Kings. Stay tuned because
you hear more about Draft Kings all it has to
(16:40):
offer throughout the show Draft Kings to Crown. He is yours.
Speaking of last night, Mark Dominic joins us he spent
twenty years in the NFL front offices and scouting. Former
general manager of the Tampay Buccaneers. He joins Us Town
on the Doug Gally Show on Fox Sports Radio and Mark,
let's start with the topic everybody wants to discuss the
day you're a general manager in Tua's quarterback. What's the
(17:01):
conversation with two alike in regards to his future?
Speaker 10 (17:06):
Right? It's a tough one, right, I mean, we talked
about this a lot when we were wondering if two
was going to get a deal, and I kept saying, then,
it's a very hard deal to do because of what
actually occurred last night. Is it a three year extension?
It ends up being a four year extension. As a
GM today, I reached out to two his agents. I
reach out to two his family, and I talked to
(17:27):
two himself. If he's okay enough to come in the office,
I want to sit down and talk to him and
just kind of get a sense of how does he feeling,
what's he's feeling, what's the message from the family, what's
the message from the agent, what's mess for the player?
And then certainly the psychological or the neurological testing that
needs to be done to get a sense of where
that is. But it's a very open and honest question
(17:50):
and answer a situation where I selfishly you want the
player to play, but understandably the player needs to make
that decision and you have to respect it.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Do you think he should retire? I do?
Speaker 10 (18:06):
I actually do, And I know it's a hard one.
Most people are kind of like, well, I think he
should consider it. Everybody's kind of sitting on the fence
on this. This is the problem, Doug. I mean, we again,
we talked about this. This is not an easy contract
for Chris Career or the Dolphins to do because they
knew that it took one hit. And I'll be honest,
I mean the iron I don't think it's irony. It
was amazing that it was Demark Hamlin's chest, and.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, it was even it was it wasn't even really
a it wasn't it wasn't a massive blow and it
wasn't his hit in the ground exactly.
Speaker 10 (18:34):
That made that makes me more concerned about it, because
when we would go back and I would get ready
for the draft, and let's say a player had a concussion,
we would go back with our medical staff and watch
the concussion happen. How did it happen, What was the impact,
Why did it happen? Right, so we can get a
better sense of like, is this something that's gonna happen
more often? Javid Best, if you remember him the running
back out of cow He's a kid that had three
(18:54):
concussions coming out. He went in the top of a second.
We took him off for board because our doctors were
like this, these are not high impact concussions. These are
low impact, I thought last night, with a low impact concussion,
which means although he made it through the year before,
this is I think something's going to happen. And he's
got fifty years to live, if not longer, hopefully sixty.
He's got some money in the bank. Yes, some of
(19:15):
this contract's going to disappear that we just saw because
of the injury part of the way it's structured. But
I think he should retire because he's you know, as
hard as that's going to be. Drill Davis retired, you know,
you know other players have retired early because of the situations.
I think this one's too critical because of long term
effects a CTE or what else it could be.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Okay, so help us out what does he actually get
from like, say he retires, what does he actually get
out of that contract?
Speaker 10 (19:43):
Yeah, so it's a medical So this is going to
be interesting how they would work through this from both sides, right,
because he's got guarantees in there. It just depends on
how they wrote the guarantees. Is there anything touched? Is
there any like holdback that the Dolphins created in this
contract to say, hey, look if it's and then this
part is not guaranteed, but this part stays guaranteed. Because
(20:03):
I've got to think the Dolphins had to do a
little bit of protection in there, because if it's fully guaranteed, right,
the signing bonus, but the player retires because of medical,
he gets to keep the signing bonus. Doug. If the
if the fifty three bonuses are all like fifty three
man rosters that haven't rolled into guarantees where the club
has to guarantee it like the fourth day or the
(20:23):
fifth day of the next league year, those he's not
going to get. And I would think that the Dolphins
had a lot of those in the contract to be
able to protect year certainly year three and year four.
I'll bet he collects his signing bonus and year one
and year two salaries probably what he's going to collect
out of this deal. And I think if you're really
smart with it, it's more than enough to set him
up for life and walk away from the game.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Uh okay, okay, now you're the Dolphins. Right. It didn't
look very good. I mean, like the the other part
to it, which is actually really interesting. As you know,
I've never been a huge too a game guy. It's
more when the when the weather turns bad. But this
Buffalo tam Is is at a beat on what he
(21:03):
does and what they do and how they do it.
And it kind of got embarrassed at home last night.
So what are your thoughts on what they should do?
Because you've got to assume best case scenario he's out
for six to eight games, right, do you do? You
go get Garoppolo who played for McDaniel before, Like, what
do you do in terms of the quarterback position?
Speaker 10 (21:26):
Well, I mean, does mister Ross want to get reunited
with Ryan Tannehills? Could be an interesting conversation Garoppolo. You
could consider if he's being willing to be moved or traded,
you could certainly do that because of it like you said,
the familiarity, which seemed you know, would be interested this
weekend to see Sam Darnold play again. But certainly it
looks like a different Sam Donald going through that you know,
(21:47):
San Francisco offense. So I think you could have those
both those conversations. But you know, I mean, I appreciate you.
We talked about case Stayton, Skylar Thomas is a backup
for the Dolphins right now or the starter. You know,
this is a team that's expecting to go to the postseason.
They're going to have to do something and it's going
to have to be a veteran and to me, it's
either Ryan Tannehill or you go trade for a guy
(22:08):
like you just said. I think it's a good point, Doug,
as you go with Jimmy Garoppol or somebody who's familiar
with the San Francisco system.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Then you got the Buffalo Bills. What are your thoughts
on how they've looked so far this year?
Speaker 10 (22:21):
Yeah, I think that they've outplayed what everybody's expectations were
for some point. I'm thankful that I chose the Bills
to win the division. I got a lot of heat
on that in television or radio, because everybody's like, well
look what they lost, like what they lost or what
they lost. But the reality is the Buffalo Bills and
Josh Allen. You know, Josh did not have this typical
year last year, and I think that that was an anomaly.
I think you're seeing more of the Josh Allen that
(22:42):
we've seen over the last previous years. And as long
as they can keep that team healthy. They had players,
as we call them, the Killer Cads. It's Knocks, it's Khalil,
it's Concaid, it's all these different guys that you know
are coming through for this football team that are staying
on the field and staying healthy. It helps that defense
look a lot better. And I think that that's where
(23:02):
they're getting through as a most Matt Mlonald gets healthy
and can get the Green dot back on his element
here in a few weeks. Hopefully they're doing a good job.
But Terrell Bernard is a really talented linebacker who's handled
the load. I just I think the team is complete,
and I think the more they work through Von Miller
and get you know, the that production increasing. I think
this team's only gonna get better.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
You know, I watched the Giants I just think they're awful.
They are just okay, they are. I'm not I'm not
miss It wasn't just one bad game.
Speaker 10 (23:35):
No, this is a bad Giants team. And I don't
know if it was us last week or the week before,
but I said then and I continue to say it.
I just think they have a blind spot to Daniel Jones.
They're around them too much. In practice, they're around him
as a person. Everybody wants to believe because the first
year there was hope there, but the reality is everything
was wrong to me when you've got to watch them,
(23:57):
you know, behind the scenes getting for the draft, I've
been talking about the wide receivers and not one mention
that if this quarterback's there, we'd take him. They were
so convinced that Daniel Jones was going to be fine,
and the history says no, he's not, and they were
in a position to go address that and they bailed
on it. And I think that's going to come back
and haunt the Giants, and think it's going to haunt
(24:17):
maybe a lot of people to Giants, not just the
quarterback position, but head coaches and GM as well.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
All the rookie quarterbacks struggled, which one leaves you with
the most concern.
Speaker 10 (24:28):
Caleb Caleb Williams. And it's not because he's the first tickets,
because all the rookie quarterbacks played well in the preseason
except for Caleb Williams. Caleb was fifty percent in the preseason.
He's fifty percent in the regular season. That has to
be somewhat of a concern. And when you watch the
balls and you watch some of the location, the athletes
fantastic and maybe he can work through it. But because
(24:51):
Bo Nicks looked good in the preseason and Michael Pennix
looks good in the preseason, Drake may looked pretty good
in the preseason. What we got there, I mean, everybody
was good, but I would say that Caleb Willams really
next never. He looked great in the preseason. He had
a couple of nice runs, but it wasn't like he
was just dising people up. And so that to me
is the most discouraging. I think Jayden Daniels still I'll
stick with my Rookie of the Year with.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Him, Okay, A couple of a couple other ones. Doug
Gottlieb Show Here on Fox Sports Radio, Mark Dominic's our guest,
You spent over twenty years in NFL or office, front
offices and scouting, and of course he was the general
manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Look, the Niners are
a loaded team, loaded team, but they didn't have Christian McCaffrey,
(25:33):
and they still ran the ball right over, down and
through the Jets. And then the Jets offense left a
lot to be desired. It's only Week one, it's traveling
across the country. It's a team that is ready made
for the Super Bowl. I get all that stuff, but
what's your level of concern if you the Jets.
Speaker 10 (25:50):
Not as much like when we talk about the New
York teams. The Giants to me is completely concerning the
Jets are. I think that was just a lump game
where you took on, you know, like you said, Doug,
like a team that's had tons of success. Even with
that Christian Cappy, there's still so many different people. I mean,
even you know, coach Slad talked about Fred Warner, who
he knows very well because he coached Hi. At one
(26:11):
point the linebacker was just able to shut him down.
So there's so much talent on that forty nine Ers team.
I think a better barometer the Jets fee this week
and the next week to kind of get a better
sense of where they are instead of like saying, look
the sky is falling once again, we got tricked. As
Jets fans, I don't feel that way yet. I still
feel like that was not the typical performance. I think
we'll see how the Jets going forward at all.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Okay, what about Atlanta. Kirk Cousins off the Achilles Tenant
looks really immobile and they get beat at him.
Speaker 10 (26:43):
Yeah, that was more of a surprise. I got to
give credits board the Justin Fields and I think I've
ever given him because I didn't think that's his production
would be to that level. And that was that was
a surprise to me. But you know, we always underestimate
Mike Tomlins teens and his coaching a bill. But to
talk about the Atlanta Falcons, Uh, that was very concerning
(27:04):
because Kurt did look very uncomfortable. Uh, certainly statue escus
might be the better word, and that and that's what
the Atlanta Falcons offensive line, which I think is really
top ten for sure in the national Football like easily
and so all in all, that was a very bad
performance and we saw what the Saints did, and certainly
Tampa Bay. We'll see what Tampa Bay does against Detroit.
(27:27):
That'll be a good litmus test for that organization. But
more and more, this is the Atlanta team I picked to
win the division, Doug. They can't show up two weeks
in a row like that.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
When does it? When did the Carolina Panthers call it
and just go He's just Bryce Young's just too small?
Speaker 10 (27:43):
Yeah, I think week eight. I think you give him
half a season to see what happens. I think that
they played it wrong in Carolina, kind of like the
way I felt like, you know, Drake May got under
used the preseason and now you know he didn't get
his May snaps that I think he could have and
should have, and Bailey's actually got more than he should
have and could have. I think that in this situation,
they should have had the first team out there with
(28:04):
Pryce Young a lot more in the preseason, a lot
more working together and not acting like there's some hidden
the secret gym. More like, we realized that we've got
lots to do here, and we need every rep, live
rep we can get in the preseason, at least a
much more majority than just saying we don't need to
do it at all, and I think that backfired tremendously
on a rookie head coach and a rookie GM.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Mark, you're the best man. Have a great weekend. Always
appreciate your incredible insight. Thanks to our guest on Fox.
Speaker 10 (28:28):
Sports Radio Rock Chock Tonight, Rock Shock.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Rock Shock, the Jayhawks. They got the ReBs coming into
Kansas City. Take them on. It's Mark Dominic. Spent over
for twenty years in NFL front offices. Youse gentlemenager for
the Tampay Buccaneers, managing staff for your supply chain is complex.
Speaker 9 (28:43):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation yet. Catch all of our shows at Fox
sports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. Mark Domin's going to
join us next hour. Appreciate Mark for colling in and
telling us he a little bit, a little bit busy happens.
You know, I got a funny story for you guys.
My son is his favorite artists music artists are. He
(29:17):
loves Playboy, Cardi and Ken Carson. Playboy Cardi and Ken
Carson and so Playboy Cardi apparently, So he texts me
this morning at five in the morning, Dad, Cardi dropped
a new one today. So I'm like, okay, tell me
what songs I should download? And he does this, start
(29:41):
doing laughing emojis and clown emojis. I got clowned by
my son today and he's like, it's only one song.
So am I wrong to think? Usually when you drop something,
you drop an album, not one song. Jay, Still, am
I the idiot here?
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Well, let me tell you what I've thought. As soon
as you said that, I thought it's a single. He
dropped a single today, so that's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Hm.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
I don't know if it warrants multiple laughing emojis. That
seemed multiple.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Laughing emojis, multiple laughing emojis. And it's crazy because like
I took him to a Playboy Cardi concert this summer.
Like I'm the hippiest dad there is there any anybody
like you think if he walks down the halls of
his high school, there's any other dads that that got
VIP passes and went to Playboy Cardi concert with their
(30:29):
son this summer? No? Why am I getting clowned for that?
Why am I getting clowned? For it.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
You know how kids are, Dougley, They'll they'll turn a
little little molehill into a mountain just to have fun
at your expense.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
I just I felt like I made a massive faux
pa this morning, Like, dude, relax. Can we point out
the fact that while all the conversation is about Tua,
the Bills look really good and they dismantled the Dolphins.
Now the interesting part is, and again I'm not I
don't have I don't come from any place of knowledge
(31:02):
on what happens with Tua the rest of the season. None. Okay,
I'm not saying I didn't talk to any insiders. I
don't care because they're gonna be super, super cautious. I would.
I believe it's probably the last game he plays this season.
So now you're like, okay, we got to find a quarterback.
So I'm just a little pop quiz guys, what do
(31:26):
you what do you think that? How do you think
they find the pool for quarterbacks to replace Tua in Miami?
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Pop quiz?
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Hot shot?
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Perfect drop for that situation.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
It was a perfect drop. Well done, Sam. Now you
have to answer the question.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
Someone on Twitter floated out, why don't you get Ryan
Tannehill down there again. Obviously he didn't play under Mike McDaniel,
but right he's available.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I saw Mark Slayer this morning say Russell Wilson, No,
you have to have somebody who's played in the Shanahan system.
The crazy part about it is the guy who would
get that gig. I believe. I believe if it wasn't
if if JJ McCarthy was healthy, I think they'd have
(32:13):
Sam Donald there like this would be like Sam Donald
one on one.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
How about the Rams current backup?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, so I think again, I would guess that one
of the guys that would at least be in consideration.
Wouldn't Garoppolo get a call? He knows that system, played
in this system. Now he's oft injured too, but you
want to pay a bunch of money, so if he
gets hurt, you get other one. You know, you can
always get another quarterback. I think byer like, who who
else have to I believe you have to know the
(32:42):
Shanahan system. If you played for Mike McDaniel as well,
even better, So go back to who is on that
roster in San Francisco back when you know Garoppolo was
was the quarterback? I think that's the first call they make,
But who else.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
I here's my point in all of this, because Ryan
Tannehills has been thrown around a lot. I don't say
give up after two games. And it's fun to put
names in places like Russell Wilson and stuff like that,
and Jimmy Garoppolos scenario would make sense. But if you're
the Miami Dolphins right now and you saw what you've
(33:17):
seen in the first two games of this season, in
the first seven quarters of the season, why in the
world would you want to give up any draft capital
to try to save this season right now? I'm not
saying punt and tank and end it. But this was
a team that made it to the playoffs last year
and played the first two games, granted against teams that
(33:40):
we think should compete for a playoff berth, but they
were a Travis etn fumble away from being down twenty
four to seven against Jacksonville and likely being out of
that game. And there was really no point last night
where I felt that the Dolphins were in a good
spot against the Buffalo Bills. And I think that that's
more of the conversation in a bigger picture, which may
(34:02):
be callous to Tua, but really of to getting the extension.
And this is the this is the team that you've got.
There are holes on defense, but there are names on
defense that you know. The Dolphins have five players that
are currently in the top one hundred salaries in the NFL,
tied for second in the NFL with like six other teams.
(34:26):
But they're paying all these guys and that's what they're
maxing out as So, whether it be Ryan Tannehill, whether
it be Russell Wilson, whether it be Jimmy Garoppolo, it's
fun to talk about the possibilities, but I just don't
think they're going to be a good football team.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Hmm, well, I think this is this is me, Dan,
I hear you, because they weren't really impressive last week
and they got embarrassed this week. But Bo Rayan and
the too injury. Like for if you didn't watch the game,
Tua was not very good and yeah, they were just awful,
completely ineffective before that, and then he got hurt, which
(35:05):
we're not and just so we're aware, Dan, like we're
not like rubbing it in. We're trying to tell the
story in case you missed the game and watch the game,
going wow, this is way worse. Like I knew, as
we discussed yesterday, not having the afternoon sun on the
Bills took away some of the superpower from the Dolphins.
But like it wasn't really competitive. I thought maybe it's
(35:26):
a shootout when I was seven to seven. Then all
of a sudden, they're like, wow, they can't really move
the ball correct. But I also know that kind of
like it really bothers Jason, but most of the league
believes that just like Cincinnati, don't freak out it is
those first four games are like extended preseason. They do
(35:48):
still have some players. And remember, I think this is
the biggest thing. It's like, do you guys remember when
we used to ask for directions to go places? Sam
may not be old enough. No.
Speaker 8 (36:02):
I used to write like going map quest and then
write stuff down if I didn't have a printer.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
I absolutely remember that I used to use maps.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
And we talked about this couple weeks ago because I
couldn't remember Thomas guides. You guys ever remember a Thomas
guide if you're in Las Ane, if you grew up
in southern California, you remember a Thomas brother's guide. Jay
s dou I know you've had you had one, there's
no question, right of course, Okay, and anyway, the point
is that for our lifetime, a stereotype of men is
(36:29):
that we were the ones that wouldn't ask for directions. Right.
The way is that because it's a pride thing, it's
an ego thing. You don't want to feel like you
don't know where you're going. Well, I think the same
thing here of the Dolphins brass, like they don't want
to be told, hey, your team's not that good. Like, no,
we built that team. We think it was a super
Bowl team, and now we just lost a quarterback who
(36:50):
although very good. Like the magic to this, part of
the magic to this system, the Shanahan system is yes,
you if you have a great quarterback like when you
had John Elway, when you have others, you can be great.
But you can turn a rock party into a star
if they just get the ball where the offense determines
the defense as it should go. So the point is, Dan,
(37:13):
I think you're more right than wrong. I think I
don't think they're nearly as good as reputation would lead
you to believe. But the Dolphins brass doesn't agree. With that, right, Yeah,
they think they can make any well, sure, that's why
that's why they'll go when they move. And I don't
know how much draft capital you need to go get
a Jimmy Garoppolo, right, I don't know if that much
draft capital.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Yeah, I have no idea either. I am not sure
and how much the Rams would value or anybody else
would value. There's also a team that is stuck with
Skyler Thompson, who ended up playing in place of Tua
in that wild card game a couple of years ago
that they had in Buffalo, so they're obviously familiar with him.
(37:59):
Last night, in the short amount that he played, I
think he left a lot to be desired. Maybe that changes,
but it's just more shocking to me. And the reason
I bring it up this way, Doug, is because I
think it sounds callous to have this conversation. But if
Tua doesn't get knocked out of the game with the concussion,
(38:21):
and I think one of the reasons why he couldn't
protect himself was because he was so awful in the
first half. And when you throw that last pick six,
when you're just throwing it away, that is the definition
of trying to do too much, and so then on
the drive where you're trying to score and scramble and
get every single yard you can, that is also a
(38:42):
perfect example of trying to do too much. Like Tua
is feeling some of the heat and your point of
the Dolphins being a team where Okay, Tua maybe doesn't
have the biggest ceiling of the world. They're not equipped
right now to be, you know, a great team. You
don't have Bradley Chubb fully healthy. I don't think they
(39:05):
have as good of a pass rush as they did
last year. The running game does not seem as dynamic
as it has been in the past. Although Han got
a lot of work, most of it was out last night.
There's just a lot off with them. And I actually
think if Tua doesn't get hurt, we are having the
Tua contract discussion today, and where the Dolphins are as
(39:25):
an organization, I.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Don't think there's any question about that none that we
were having. We'd be having to a contract discussion today.
That's what I was prepared to when I watched the
first two interceptions, second one, I was just like I was,
I was self patting, I was self padding. Yep, do it,
and this go ahead.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
I was just gonna say one other thing, And this
was a team that was set up with greatness for
all of their first round picks that they had for years.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
And.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
One of them ended up being forfeit. Maybe they haven't
cashed in as well as they would have hoped on
the other ones, but man, like, this was a team
that you know, they ship Laramie Tunzel to the to
the Texans in a deal like they were kind of
scaling stuff down. We're like, what are the Dolphins doing?
And you have all these draft picks and now you
(40:18):
look at what this team is right now, and I
just am like, I think Mike McDaniel's a good coach.
I think people look at his record and be like, well,
I don't know how great of a coach he is,
but if he's going to emulate what Kyle Shanahan has done,
they try to be the forty nine Ers of the East,
but they're just nowhere near personnel wise or anything with
what the forty nine ers do outside of a big
(40:39):
play from Tyreek Hill and maybe to a throw in
the football, but that seems about it right now.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah, I do think the mcgannel thing is interesting, right,
Like I like him, but there's some of the stuff
he does where you're like you're driving a Bentley and
it's a little is this there's a little little part
of me. It says he's feeling himself a little bit
more than maybe the actual record or the actual job
(41:05):
says you should be in the in the NFL, and
the public facing part about being all about the players
may not be what it's really like. I could be wrong,
but they got this is a big issue. Right. You
waited thirty thirty five years to find a quarterback to
replace Dan Marino. This is the guy you picked. I
didn't think he was that good. But now you may
(41:26):
be back right back in that same situation. Oh yeah,
by the way, because you locked in on that contract,
then you had to shed some other ones and now
becomes kind of house of cards. So now you're coaching
when you're dealing with backup quarterbacks, are going to reach
out and trade for Garoppolo if that happens. Whatever. Now
we find out that's what's called coaching. Lots of dudes
(41:48):
can run out there with your ones when you have
the fastest you in the NFL and get rid of
it quick and score some points. Now you're coaching
Thanks for listening to the best of the Doug Gottlieb
Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday
three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.
Find your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at
boxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day
on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR boom Up America
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fine Sports Radio Broadcast Libroth, The tiret
(00:26):
dot Com Studios tirect dot com let me get there
unmatched election fast free shipping, free road as a production
over ten thousand recommended dollars tyrect dot com Sway tire
buying should be welcome in. This show is sponsored by DraftKings.
Stay tuned you'll hear more about DraftKings it all has
to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, The Crown is yours,
(00:46):
all right, I'm gonna play free a bunch of sound,
we'll talk about it a lot, and I'm gonna tell
you a couple of things which we all know are true,
even if we won't want to admit it. And uh,
it's all revolving around to a tongue Iloa who unfortunately
got a concussion last night as part of the loss
by the Miami Dolphins to the Buffalo Bills. It should
(01:11):
be pointed out and this has nothing to do with
the decision that he'll have to make or he and
his team will have to make in regards to what
his future looks like. It should be pointed out though,
that I've never been a to a guy in the
NFL in terms of his I just don't think his
ceilings that high. And I you know, I remember it
(01:33):
was like a year and a half ago or a
year and three quarters ago when Emmanuel Acho was on
Fox Sports one saying that that Justin Herbert was a
what was it social media quarterback or something, and that
Tua Tongue Bilo it was actually like an MVP candidate.
(01:54):
I went to the game, and if you watch the two,
those two men play quarterback, and you think there's any
way of comparing Tua Tongue Bailoa was with with Justin Herbert,
and I don't know what you're watching, but he's widely
regarded as an incredible human being. And remember he's been
(02:16):
kind of a sympathetic figure this year, considering how he
relayed that Brian Flora as their former head coach treated him.
So two was the guy who came in off the
bench and won the National Championship Game. Two was the
guy who was seen is better than Jalen Hurts, and
so Jalen Hurts had to lead. Tua was the guy
that the league won to tank for. Two was the
guy who in some ways was in many ways is
(02:40):
the reason Brian Flores was fired because he didn't buy
into Tua and the way he treated to and the
rest of the front office saw that, and they of
course wanted to draft Tua and they did. And so
you're basically saying all your opinions stink. And now two
is the guy who has a decision to make whether
or not he's gonna return to the Nation Football League
(03:03):
this year or ever. Ever. Here's Mike McDaniel when he
talked to reporters this morning about the quarterback future.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I totally understand it, and it's not misplaced. I totally
get how that's where people want to go to. I
just wish that people would for seconds hear what I'm
saying that bringing up his future is not the best
interest of him.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
HM. Here's he was asked about the quarterback's future, so
is Mantiteya, a longtime friend of two of them. Ambre
Mantitea now has joined Good Morning Football in the NFL network.
Here's what he had to say this morning.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
After he suffered the one against the Bengals. I wanted
him to walk that that that when I saw him
have to be carted off the field. Yeah, I wanted
him to walk like that was m hm, yep, that
was hard. Pro Like what people have to understand is
this is just a game, you know, and then and
(04:06):
then there's a life. And when you watch when you
watch a young man that you've known since she was
a little boy go out there, you know, yeah, is hard.
Is it hard for me? Yeah, but I can't imagine
how it is for Uncle Nahlu and Auntie Diana watch
their son again go down. And you know, khalais mentioned
it was so good to watch him stand up for
(04:26):
somebody that's been in that situation where I've had a concussion.
I don't even know if two is there as he's
walking off the field, Like there's been clips of me
after concussions getting off the ground and walking off the stadium,
walking into the locker room. I don't remember those walks.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I get it, but I'd also point out, this is
what we're doing with all of this, and it's very
natural to do. It is we're putting ourselves in the
shoes of two a tongue of by law. We're living
our own life through to it. When this is totally
you know, I'm not saying that Mantai didn't have concussions
and any of this stuff is made up, not in
(05:03):
any way. But I don't know if that's the experience
of to a tongue of Bayoloa. I don't Here's Antonio Pierce.
Of course they're a former linebacker in the NFL. Because
the Raiders head coach talking about to his future.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I'll be honest, I'll just sudden retire. It's not worth it,
It's not worth to play the game. I haven't witnessed
anything like I've seen. This happened to him three times.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Scary.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
You can see right away the players faces on the field.
You can see the sense urgency from everybody to get
to a help. I just think at some point, you know,
he don't live longer, and he's don't play football, take
care of your family.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So it does feel like again you have football players
and former football players saying like, what are you doing here?
Plus he just signed the new contract, which would be settled.
But I also know that one of the things that
has made football players different is they've known this, they've
known what could happen, and they've still gone and down
it anyway. I mean running a lot cut off part
of his fingers, so he could play in a playoff game,
(05:57):
Like what are we doing here? You know? So I
don't know. My big thing is I don't think we
can insert ourselves our own lives, our own thoughts, our
own dreams, our own wishes, or what we think he
should do into his life. I think we just got
to let him handle that one. Well. It's true former
(06:17):
football players, good friends can get good advice. My guess
is he didn't play the rest this year. That's my guess.
In times of retirement. I don't think he makes that
decision in the short term. I think it becomes a
decision that's made further down the road, and there's a
strong possibility he does shut it down. Does Could he
(06:37):
try to come back one more time? Maybe maybe and
make it about and you know, when he comes back,
he'd make it about the Dolphins they're belief in him
giving him the contract despite the fact this could happen.
But this is also one of the reasons that people said,
don't give that contract. Dan Byer, what would you do?
You're to a tongue of Bailoa, a good team. And
(07:01):
here's the thing. If you say, well the doctors tell him.
If you want to find a doctor that can make
that can make it so that you can play, you
will find a doctor. You will find a doctor. If
you want to find a doctor that says you should
never play, you will find a doctor. Byer, what do you.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Think, Well, there's a couple of things.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
And I may not be taking this head on to
what you're you're asking, but because as he said, all
of this is speculation.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
On what we think is going to happen. What would
I do with Tua, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
I can't even can't even fathom a guess on it.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
But what I do know is he can't protect himself
right now.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
That play last night was so avoidable, absolutely avoidable, and
you would hope that after last season, in trying to
manage a season where there wasn't that big injury, he
was able to make it through that we didn't see
this again that maybe Tua actually learned from it. I'm
(08:04):
not trying to blame him for it, but last night
didn't have to happen. Last year was an example of
how you can get through the season in maybe trying
to protect yourself in certain ways because the year prior,
there were what three instances where you know, the first
game they had against the Bills in twenty twenty two,
the obvious one that Mantaiteya was just talking about with Cincinnati,
(08:26):
and then there was the Christmas Day Packers game where
he also suffered that that concussion. So I thought that
maybe Tua had learned and figured out a way to
do so. But if you can't protect yourself, let alone
anybody else on your team, yeah, I don't know if
I'd want to play anymore. And that may be the
reason why Tua wants to play, because he still thinks
(08:48):
he can, but he's the one that's hurting himself.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Last night did not have to happen.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Case too. What do you think?
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Yeah, I think I was. I thought the exact same
thing that Anthon and I think this should be baked
into his decision or whoever's going to make the decision.
For him, because I think there is a legitimate question
of whether or not you should allow him to make
the decision if his head is scrambled multiple times, is
(09:17):
he of the right mind to make a decision like this,
and that that thing where he can't protect himself should
be baked into this decision. You know, anybody else that
has had multiple concussions, you have a decision to make
about your future. But there's a history now of him
not being able to protect himself, and I think that
(09:37):
that that is a part, a big part of this.
I just I did not see any reason for doing
what he did last night. Right, he had already gotten
the first down. There's just no reason to not slide there.
And if, like Dan says, if he was making these
decisions last year and he was going fine, I don't
know why he decided to do that last night. And
(10:00):
I'm going to use this example from a personal standpoint.
My son has balance is shoes. He's on the spectrum
and he has balance issues, and he does a lot
of athletic things, but inevitably he falls. He's broken the
exact same elbow five times. It's a miserable situation that
I can't stand and I hate seeing him go through this.
(10:23):
But he breaks his fall, he breaks his elbow, and
if I'm to his parents, I'm in the same shoes.
He obviously can't protect himself.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
Sam, So after he did like the martial arts training
to help, you know, buffer his falls and stuff or
soften the blows of his falls. You know, he had
a clean year last year. But my question is like,
did we really think this wouldn't happen again. I mean,
if he's going to play, you know, ten to fifteen
years in the NFL, of course it's going to happen again.
I was thinking this last night that if he does
(11:00):
decide to continue his career after sitting out, I don't know,
half the season or the full season, maybe comes back
next year. He should be the first guy to really
celebrate and sport the you know, the Guardian cap, and
we should celebrate it. And there's nothing, nothing at all
that's unmanly or woosy about protecting your brain. Yeah, he's
(11:21):
gonna look like Marvin the Martian out there, but I
think that all these guys are gonna end up wearing
these at some point. So he could be the first
quarterback in the NFL to really celebrate it and sport it,
and he has to show us. There's gonna be a
lot of pressure on him from the outside. He has
to show us that he's trying to protect his brain safety.
So if he does continue his career, that's totally up
to him. I agree with Jason that maybe it's not
(11:42):
completely his decision, but I do think at the end
of the day, if he wants to continue his career,
he should be the one to decide that. But he
needs to he needs to protect protect himself more with
actual materials in the future.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
No question he's gonna ultimately he'll have to make the call,
but you know there'll be a steady amount of pressure.
And look, you heard that from Anti Tea. I have
no doubt that he's getting to get a ton of
pressure from people close to him to shut it down.
But I thought all of you guys made the really
good point. While you look yesterday, it wasn't like it
(12:16):
was a direct helmet to helmet hit. It wasn't some violent,
violent collision, and that only shows where he is now
in that it doesn't take a lot. And again, this
is kind of classic multiple concussions, where the more you have,
the easier it is to get the next one, and
with every next one it becomes more damaging, and then
(12:37):
we haven't even gotten to Like it's not like you
can tell people to stop tackling him. Eventually he'll get
tackled and his head will hit the dirt. And his
head hits the dirt, it feels like it's the autoconcussion.
So I think we all know what the decision will
ultimately be. It's just a question of how long will
it take him to get there and will he try
it one more time before he does? Does that make sense?
Speaker 7 (12:57):
Dan?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Does that?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I mean, I just feel like that stuff.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
You know. I love that.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Sam pointed up that at some point this was probably
going to happen again, and this happened again in a
nationally televised game, you know, the standalone game, and the
visual aspect of the of the hits is jarring. It
really is. I have one more thing. It just looked
(13:22):
like he reverted back to bad habits. Was they were
down thirty one to ten, he was going to pick
up a first down. So instead of like Mahomes is
always so conscious of his body and like where he
is on the field and like what he's going to
do next, And I feel like Tua in that moment
was desperate just to get them to score. So he
kind of sloppily goes out running and then just goes
bareling into DeMar Hamlin head first, and he just all
(13:45):
of the things he learned last year with the martial
arts training just went out the window. And so it's
like guys sometimes are desperate, they lose control of their bodies.
They're just trying to get a first down or score
a touchdown, and they don't think about like the physics
of it, and he ended up really hurting himself.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, it's called game slippage, Sam, where you result you
you know you you regress to the mean. That's really
what happens. You regress to the mean. It's sad. It
just it just is because by all accounts, really good dude.
And yeah, he had had some sympathy a lot of
people because of how he said Brian Flora has treated him.
(14:23):
But there's also the football reality to it, which is
this is why so many people told the Dolphins, like,
don't give him some big long term deal. Now there
are some injury stuff, and you if he retires, you
can get it off the books, whatever. But that was
that that's not pretty. And how about the fact this
is Deamar Hamlin.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Like all people poetry poetry.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It was super ironic that it's Damar Hamlin of all people,
who makes just an innocuous tackle and ends up believing
in the concussion.
Speaker 8 (14:53):
Yeah, there's nothing at all. Like his tackle was just
like him putting his body in the way of Tua
to stop him from progressing. So it's like, you know,
there's nothing. Yeah, no, nothing at all. It was Tua
running his head first into tomorrow. It was just a bad,
bad situation.
Speaker 9 (15:06):
This is the best of the Done dot Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Hey, what up with your Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio.
It's a Friday, you ain't got nothing to do? Said,
let's do us on the radio. We're taking you all
the way up into the weekend, all the weekhead on
the Fox Sports Radio. We're broadcasting live from the tirag
dot com studios tyrek dot com where we get there
unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free road as a protection
of ten thousan recommend It's allars diirat dot com. It's
(15:35):
the way tire by jed Me got some football games night,
Sunflower State two games. Do you guys see this? I
know Byer did, because Byron and I were all locked
in on the college football uh KU hosting UNLB, who
kind of curiously has yet to get the call regarding
(15:56):
the PAC twelve or the new PAC ten or whatever
it's gonna be called. And then Kansas State plays at
home and they play an hour apart, and I think
now kay is playing the soccer stadium again tonight. Right
they're playing where Case United I think plays, which is
out near Kuah. It's kind of on the western side
(16:19):
of a loop of Kansas City on the way to
Lawrence because the redoing their stadium. And then k State
plays Arizona, which is technically eight two Big twelve teams,
but it's not a Big twelve game because it's previously
previously scheduled home and home. So we got some college
football last night. We had NFL football and a reminder
of the show's sponsored by Draft Kings. Stay tuned because
you hear more about Draft Kings all it has to
(16:40):
offer throughout the show Draft Kings to Crown. He is yours.
Speaking of last night, Mark Dominic joins us he spent
twenty years in the NFL front offices and scouting. Former
general manager of the Tampay Buccaneers. He joins Us Town
on the Doug Gally Show on Fox Sports Radio and Mark,
let's start with the topic everybody wants to discuss the
day you're a general manager in Tua's quarterback. What's the
(17:01):
conversation with two alike in regards to his future?
Speaker 10 (17:06):
Right? It's a tough one, right, I mean, we talked
about this a lot when we were wondering if two
was going to get a deal, and I kept saying, then,
it's a very hard deal to do because of what
actually occurred last night. Is it a three year extension?
It ends up being a four year extension. As a
GM today, I reached out to two his agents. I
reach out to two his family, and I talked to
(17:27):
two himself. If he's okay enough to come in the office,
I want to sit down and talk to him and
just kind of get a sense of how does he feeling,
what's he's feeling, what's the message from the family, what's
the message from the agent, what's mess for the player?
And then certainly the psychological or the neurological testing that
needs to be done to get a sense of where
that is. But it's a very open and honest question
(17:50):
and answer a situation where I selfishly you want the
player to play, but understandably the player needs to make
that decision and you have to respect it.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Do you think he should retire? I do?
Speaker 10 (18:06):
I actually do, And I know it's a hard one.
Most people are kind of like, well, I think he
should consider it. Everybody's kind of sitting on the fence
on this. This is the problem, Doug. I mean, we again,
we talked about this. This is not an easy contract
for Chris Career or the Dolphins to do because they
knew that it took one hit. And I'll be honest,
I mean the iron I don't think it's irony. It
was amazing that it was Demark Hamlin's chest, and.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, it was even it was it wasn't even really
a it wasn't it wasn't a massive blow and it
wasn't his hit in the ground exactly.
Speaker 10 (18:34):
That made that makes me more concerned about it, because
when we would go back and I would get ready
for the draft, and let's say a player had a concussion,
we would go back with our medical staff and watch
the concussion happen. How did it happen, What was the impact,
Why did it happen? Right, so we can get a
better sense of like, is this something that's gonna happen
more often? Javid Best, if you remember him the running
back out of cow He's a kid that had three
(18:54):
concussions coming out. He went in the top of a second.
We took him off for board because our doctors were
like this, these are not high impact concussions. These are
low impact, I thought last night, with a low impact concussion,
which means although he made it through the year before,
this is I think something's going to happen. And he's
got fifty years to live, if not longer, hopefully sixty.
He's got some money in the bank. Yes, some of
(19:15):
this contract's going to disappear that we just saw because
of the injury part of the way it's structured. But
I think he should retire because he's you know, as
hard as that's going to be. Drill Davis retired, you know,
you know other players have retired early because of the situations.
I think this one's too critical because of long term
effects a CTE or what else it could be.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Okay, so help us out what does he actually get
from like, say he retires, what does he actually get
out of that contract?
Speaker 10 (19:43):
Yeah, so it's a medical So this is going to
be interesting how they would work through this from both sides, right,
because he's got guarantees in there. It just depends on
how they wrote the guarantees. Is there anything touched? Is
there any like holdback that the Dolphins created in this
contract to say, hey, look if it's and then this
part is not guaranteed, but this part stays guaranteed. Because
(20:03):
I've got to think the Dolphins had to do a
little bit of protection in there, because if it's fully guaranteed, right,
the signing bonus, but the player retires because of medical,
he gets to keep the signing bonus. Doug. If the
if the fifty three bonuses are all like fifty three
man rosters that haven't rolled into guarantees where the club
has to guarantee it like the fourth day or the
(20:23):
fifth day of the next league year, those he's not
going to get. And I would think that the Dolphins
had a lot of those in the contract to be
able to protect year certainly year three and year four.
I'll bet he collects his signing bonus and year one
and year two salaries probably what he's going to collect
out of this deal. And I think if you're really
smart with it, it's more than enough to set him
up for life and walk away from the game.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Uh okay, okay, now you're the Dolphins. Right. It didn't
look very good. I mean, like the the other part
to it, which is actually really interesting. As you know,
I've never been a huge too a game guy. It's
more when the when the weather turns bad. But this
Buffalo tam Is is at a beat on what he
(21:03):
does and what they do and how they do it.
And it kind of got embarrassed at home last night.
So what are your thoughts on what they should do?
Because you've got to assume best case scenario he's out
for six to eight games, right, do you do? You
go get Garoppolo who played for McDaniel before, Like, what
do you do in terms of the quarterback position?
Speaker 10 (21:26):
Well, I mean, does mister Ross want to get reunited
with Ryan Tannehills? Could be an interesting conversation Garoppolo. You
could consider if he's being willing to be moved or traded,
you could certainly do that because of it like you said,
the familiarity, which seemed you know, would be interested this
weekend to see Sam Darnold play again. But certainly it
looks like a different Sam Donald going through that you know,
(21:47):
San Francisco offense. So I think you could have those
both those conversations. But you know, I mean, I appreciate you.
We talked about case Stayton, Skylar Thomas is a backup
for the Dolphins right now or the starter. You know,
this is a team that's expecting to go to the postseason.
They're going to have to do something and it's going
to have to be a veteran and to me, it's
either Ryan Tannehill or you go trade for a guy
(22:08):
like you just said. I think it's a good point, Doug,
as you go with Jimmy Garoppol or somebody who's familiar
with the San Francisco system.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Then you got the Buffalo Bills. What are your thoughts
on how they've looked so far this year?
Speaker 10 (22:21):
Yeah, I think that they've outplayed what everybody's expectations were
for some point. I'm thankful that I chose the Bills
to win the division. I got a lot of heat
on that in television or radio, because everybody's like, well
look what they lost, like what they lost or what
they lost. But the reality is the Buffalo Bills and
Josh Allen. You know, Josh did not have this typical
year last year, and I think that that was an anomaly.
I think you're seeing more of the Josh Allen that
(22:42):
we've seen over the last previous years. And as long
as they can keep that team healthy. They had players,
as we call them, the Killer Cads. It's Knocks, it's Khalil,
it's Concaid, it's all these different guys that you know
are coming through for this football team that are staying
on the field and staying healthy. It helps that defense
look a lot better. And I think that that's where
(23:02):
they're getting through as a most Matt Mlonald gets healthy
and can get the Green dot back on his element
here in a few weeks. Hopefully they're doing a good job.
But Terrell Bernard is a really talented linebacker who's handled
the load. I just I think the team is complete,
and I think the more they work through Von Miller
and get you know, the that production increasing. I think
this team's only gonna get better.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
You know, I watched the Giants I just think they're awful.
They are just okay, they are. I'm not I'm not
miss It wasn't just one bad game.
Speaker 10 (23:35):
No, this is a bad Giants team. And I don't
know if it was us last week or the week before,
but I said then and I continue to say it.
I just think they have a blind spot to Daniel Jones.
They're around them too much. In practice, they're around him
as a person. Everybody wants to believe because the first
year there was hope there, but the reality is everything
was wrong to me when you've got to watch them,
(23:57):
you know, behind the scenes getting for the draft, I've
been talking about the wide receivers and not one mention
that if this quarterback's there, we'd take him. They were
so convinced that Daniel Jones was going to be fine,
and the history says no, he's not, and they were
in a position to go address that and they bailed
on it. And I think that's going to come back
and haunt the Giants, and think it's going to haunt
(24:17):
maybe a lot of people to Giants, not just the
quarterback position, but head coaches and GM as well.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
All the rookie quarterbacks struggled, which one leaves you with
the most concern.
Speaker 10 (24:28):
Caleb Caleb Williams. And it's not because he's the first tickets,
because all the rookie quarterbacks played well in the preseason
except for Caleb Williams. Caleb was fifty percent in the preseason.
He's fifty percent in the regular season. That has to
be somewhat of a concern. And when you watch the
balls and you watch some of the location, the athletes
fantastic and maybe he can work through it. But because
(24:51):
Bo Nicks looked good in the preseason and Michael Pennix
looks good in the preseason, Drake may looked pretty good
in the preseason. What we got there, I mean, everybody
was good, but I would say that Caleb Willams really
next never. He looked great in the preseason. He had
a couple of nice runs, but it wasn't like he
was just dising people up. And so that to me
is the most discouraging. I think Jayden Daniels still I'll
stick with my Rookie of the Year with.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Him, Okay, A couple of a couple other ones. Doug
Gottlieb Show Here on Fox Sports Radio, Mark Dominic's our guest,
You spent over twenty years in NFL or office, front
offices and scouting, and of course he was the general
manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Look, the Niners are
a loaded team, loaded team, but they didn't have Christian McCaffrey,
(25:33):
and they still ran the ball right over, down and
through the Jets. And then the Jets offense left a
lot to be desired. It's only Week one, it's traveling
across the country. It's a team that is ready made
for the Super Bowl. I get all that stuff, but
what's your level of concern if you the Jets.
Speaker 10 (25:50):
Not as much like when we talk about the New
York teams. The Giants to me is completely concerning the
Jets are. I think that was just a lump game
where you took on, you know, like you said, Doug,
like a team that's had tons of success. Even with
that Christian Cappy, there's still so many different people. I mean,
even you know, coach Slad talked about Fred Warner, who
he knows very well because he coached Hi. At one
(26:11):
point the linebacker was just able to shut him down.
So there's so much talent on that forty nine Ers team.
I think a better barometer the Jets fee this week
and the next week to kind of get a better
sense of where they are instead of like saying, look
the sky is falling once again, we got tricked. As
Jets fans, I don't feel that way yet. I still
feel like that was not the typical performance. I think
we'll see how the Jets going forward at all.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Okay, what about Atlanta. Kirk Cousins off the Achilles Tenant
looks really immobile and they get beat at him.
Speaker 10 (26:43):
Yeah, that was more of a surprise. I got to
give credits board the Justin Fields and I think I've
ever given him because I didn't think that's his production
would be to that level. And that was that was
a surprise to me. But you know, we always underestimate
Mike Tomlins teens and his coaching a bill. But to
talk about the Atlanta Falcons, Uh, that was very concerning
(27:04):
because Kurt did look very uncomfortable. Uh, certainly statue escus
might be the better word, and that and that's what
the Atlanta Falcons offensive line, which I think is really
top ten for sure in the national Football like easily
and so all in all, that was a very bad
performance and we saw what the Saints did, and certainly
Tampa Bay. We'll see what Tampa Bay does against Detroit.
(27:27):
That'll be a good litmus test for that organization. But
more and more, this is the Atlanta team I picked to
win the division, Doug. They can't show up two weeks
in a row like that.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
When does it? When did the Carolina Panthers call it
and just go He's just Bryce Young's just too small?
Speaker 10 (27:43):
Yeah, I think week eight. I think you give him
half a season to see what happens. I think that
they played it wrong in Carolina, kind of like the
way I felt like, you know, Drake May got under
used the preseason and now you know he didn't get
his May snaps that I think he could have and
should have, and Bailey's actually got more than he should
have and could have. I think that in this situation,
they should have had the first team out there with
(28:04):
Pryce Young a lot more in the preseason, a lot
more working together and not acting like there's some hidden
the secret gym. More like, we realized that we've got
lots to do here, and we need every rep, live
rep we can get in the preseason, at least a
much more majority than just saying we don't need to
do it at all, and I think that backfired tremendously
on a rookie head coach and a rookie GM.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Mark, you're the best man. Have a great weekend. Always
appreciate your incredible insight. Thanks to our guest on Fox.
Speaker 10 (28:28):
Sports Radio Rock Chock Tonight, Rock Shock.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Rock Shock, the Jayhawks. They got the ReBs coming into
Kansas City. Take them on. It's Mark Dominic. Spent over
for twenty years in NFL front offices. Youse gentlemenager for
the Tampay Buccaneers, managing staff for your supply chain is complex.
Speaker 9 (28:43):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation yet. Catch all of our shows at Fox
sports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. Mark Domin's going to
join us next hour. Appreciate Mark for colling in and
telling us he a little bit, a little bit busy happens.
You know, I got a funny story for you guys.
My son is his favorite artists music artists are. He
(29:17):
loves Playboy, Cardi and Ken Carson. Playboy Cardi and Ken
Carson and so Playboy Cardi apparently, So he texts me
this morning at five in the morning, Dad, Cardi dropped
a new one today. So I'm like, okay, tell me
what songs I should download? And he does this, start
(29:41):
doing laughing emojis and clown emojis. I got clowned by
my son today and he's like, it's only one song.
So am I wrong to think? Usually when you drop something,
you drop an album, not one song. Jay, Still, am
I the idiot here?
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Well, let me tell you what I've thought. As soon
as you said that, I thought it's a single. He
dropped a single today, so that's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Hm.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
I don't know if it warrants multiple laughing emojis. That
seemed multiple.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Laughing emojis, multiple laughing emojis. And it's crazy because like
I took him to a Playboy Cardi concert this summer.
Like I'm the hippiest dad there is there any anybody
like you think if he walks down the halls of
his high school, there's any other dads that that got
VIP passes and went to Playboy Cardi concert with their
(30:29):
son this summer? No? Why am I getting clowned for that?
Why am I getting clowned? For it.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
You know how kids are, Dougley, They'll they'll turn a
little little molehill into a mountain just to have fun
at your expense.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
I just I felt like I made a massive faux
pa this morning, Like, dude, relax. Can we point out
the fact that while all the conversation is about Tua,
the Bills look really good and they dismantled the Dolphins.
Now the interesting part is, and again I'm not I
don't have I don't come from any place of knowledge
(31:02):
on what happens with Tua the rest of the season. None. Okay,
I'm not saying I didn't talk to any insiders. I
don't care because they're gonna be super, super cautious. I would.
I believe it's probably the last game he plays this season.
So now you're like, okay, we got to find a quarterback.
So I'm just a little pop quiz guys, what do
(31:26):
you what do you think that? How do you think
they find the pool for quarterbacks to replace Tua in Miami?
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Pop quiz?
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Hot shot?
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Perfect drop for that situation.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
It was a perfect drop. Well done, Sam. Now you
have to answer the question.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
Someone on Twitter floated out, why don't you get Ryan
Tannehill down there again. Obviously he didn't play under Mike McDaniel,
but right he's available.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I saw Mark Slayer this morning say Russell Wilson, No,
you have to have somebody who's played in the Shanahan system.
The crazy part about it is the guy who would
get that gig. I believe. I believe if it wasn't
if if JJ McCarthy was healthy, I think they'd have
(32:13):
Sam Donald there like this would be like Sam Donald
one on one.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
How about the Rams current backup?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, so I think again, I would guess that one
of the guys that would at least be in consideration.
Wouldn't Garoppolo get a call? He knows that system, played
in this system. Now he's oft injured too, but you
want to pay a bunch of money, so if he
gets hurt, you get other one. You know, you can
always get another quarterback. I think byer like, who who
else have to I believe you have to know the
(32:42):
Shanahan system. If you played for Mike McDaniel as well,
even better, So go back to who is on that
roster in San Francisco back when you know Garoppolo was
was the quarterback? I think that's the first call they make,
But who else.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
I here's my point in all of this, because Ryan
Tannehills has been thrown around a lot. I don't say
give up after two games. And it's fun to put
names in places like Russell Wilson and stuff like that,
and Jimmy Garoppolos scenario would make sense. But if you're
the Miami Dolphins right now and you saw what you've
(33:17):
seen in the first two games of this season, in
the first seven quarters of the season, why in the
world would you want to give up any draft capital
to try to save this season right now? I'm not
saying punt and tank and end it. But this was
a team that made it to the playoffs last year
and played the first two games, granted against teams that
(33:40):
we think should compete for a playoff berth, but they
were a Travis etn fumble away from being down twenty
four to seven against Jacksonville and likely being out of
that game. And there was really no point last night
where I felt that the Dolphins were in a good
spot against the Buffalo Bills. And I think that that's
more of the conversation in a bigger picture, which may
(34:02):
be callous to Tua, but really of to getting the extension.
And this is the this is the team that you've got.
There are holes on defense, but there are names on
defense that you know. The Dolphins have five players that
are currently in the top one hundred salaries in the NFL,
tied for second in the NFL with like six other teams.
(34:26):
But they're paying all these guys and that's what they're
maxing out as So, whether it be Ryan Tannehill, whether
it be Russell Wilson, whether it be Jimmy Garoppolo, it's
fun to talk about the possibilities, but I just don't
think they're going to be a good football team.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Hmm, well, I think this is this is me, Dan,
I hear you, because they weren't really impressive last week
and they got embarrassed this week. But Bo Rayan and
the too injury. Like for if you didn't watch the game,
Tua was not very good and yeah, they were just awful,
completely ineffective before that, and then he got hurt, which
(35:05):
we're not and just so we're aware, Dan, like we're
not like rubbing it in. We're trying to tell the
story in case you missed the game and watch the game,
going wow, this is way worse. Like I knew, as
we discussed yesterday, not having the afternoon sun on the
Bills took away some of the superpower from the Dolphins.
But like it wasn't really competitive. I thought maybe it's
(35:26):
a shootout when I was seven to seven. Then all
of a sudden, they're like, wow, they can't really move
the ball correct. But I also know that kind of
like it really bothers Jason, but most of the league
believes that just like Cincinnati, don't freak out it is
those first four games are like extended preseason. They do
(35:48):
still have some players. And remember, I think this is
the biggest thing. It's like, do you guys remember when
we used to ask for directions to go places? Sam
may not be old enough. No.
Speaker 8 (36:02):
I used to write like going map quest and then
write stuff down if I didn't have a printer.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
I absolutely remember that I used to use maps.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
And we talked about this couple weeks ago because I
couldn't remember Thomas guides. You guys ever remember a Thomas
guide if you're in Las Ane, if you grew up
in southern California, you remember a Thomas brother's guide. Jay
s dou I know you've had you had one, there's
no question, right of course, Okay, and anyway, the point
is that for our lifetime, a stereotype of men is
(36:29):
that we were the ones that wouldn't ask for directions. Right.
The way is that because it's a pride thing, it's
an ego thing. You don't want to feel like you
don't know where you're going. Well, I think the same
thing here of the Dolphins brass, like they don't want
to be told, hey, your team's not that good. Like, no,
we built that team. We think it was a super
Bowl team, and now we just lost a quarterback who
(36:50):
although very good. Like the magic to this, part of
the magic to this system, the Shanahan system is yes,
you if you have a great quarterback like when you
had John Elway, when you have others, you can be great.
But you can turn a rock party into a star
if they just get the ball where the offense determines
the defense as it should go. So the point is, Dan,
(37:13):
I think you're more right than wrong. I think I
don't think they're nearly as good as reputation would lead
you to believe. But the Dolphins brass doesn't agree. With that, right, Yeah,
they think they can make any well, sure, that's why
that's why they'll go when they move. And I don't
know how much draft capital you need to go get
a Jimmy Garoppolo, right, I don't know if that much
draft capital.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Yeah, I have no idea either. I am not sure
and how much the Rams would value or anybody else
would value. There's also a team that is stuck with
Skyler Thompson, who ended up playing in place of Tua
in that wild card game a couple of years ago
that they had in Buffalo, so they're obviously familiar with him.
(37:59):
Last night, in the short amount that he played, I
think he left a lot to be desired. Maybe that changes,
but it's just more shocking to me. And the reason
I bring it up this way, Doug, is because I
think it sounds callous to have this conversation. But if
Tua doesn't get knocked out of the game with the concussion,
(38:21):
and I think one of the reasons why he couldn't
protect himself was because he was so awful in the
first half. And when you throw that last pick six,
when you're just throwing it away, that is the definition
of trying to do too much, and so then on
the drive where you're trying to score and scramble and
get every single yard you can, that is also a
(38:42):
perfect example of trying to do too much. Like Tua
is feeling some of the heat and your point of
the Dolphins being a team where Okay, Tua maybe doesn't
have the biggest ceiling of the world. They're not equipped
right now to be, you know, a great team. You
don't have Bradley Chubb fully healthy. I don't think they
(39:05):
have as good of a pass rush as they did
last year. The running game does not seem as dynamic
as it has been in the past. Although Han got
a lot of work, most of it was out last night.
There's just a lot off with them. And I actually
think if Tua doesn't get hurt, we are having the
Tua contract discussion today, and where the Dolphins are as
(39:25):
an organization, I.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Don't think there's any question about that none that we
were having. We'd be having to a contract discussion today.
That's what I was prepared to when I watched the
first two interceptions, second one, I was just like I was,
I was self patting, I was self padding. Yep, do it,
and this go ahead.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
I was just gonna say one other thing, And this
was a team that was set up with greatness for
all of their first round picks that they had for years.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
And.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
One of them ended up being forfeit. Maybe they haven't
cashed in as well as they would have hoped on
the other ones, but man, like, this was a team
that you know, they ship Laramie Tunzel to the to
the Texans in a deal like they were kind of
scaling stuff down. We're like, what are the Dolphins doing?
And you have all these draft picks and now you
(40:18):
look at what this team is right now, and I
just am like, I think Mike McDaniel's a good coach.
I think people look at his record and be like, well,
I don't know how great of a coach he is,
but if he's going to emulate what Kyle Shanahan has done,
they try to be the forty nine Ers of the East,
but they're just nowhere near personnel wise or anything with
what the forty nine ers do outside of a big
(40:39):
play from Tyreek Hill and maybe to a throw in
the football, but that seems about it right now.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah, I do think the mcgannel thing is interesting, right,
Like I like him, but there's some of the stuff
he does where you're like you're driving a Bentley and
it's a little is this there's a little little part
of me. It says he's feeling himself a little bit
more than maybe the actual record or the actual job
(41:05):
says you should be in the in the NFL, and
the public facing part about being all about the players
may not be what it's really like. I could be wrong,
but they got this is a big issue. Right. You
waited thirty thirty five years to find a quarterback to
replace Dan Marino. This is the guy you picked. I
didn't think he was that good. But now you may
(41:26):
be back right back in that same situation. Oh yeah,
by the way, because you locked in on that contract,
then you had to shed some other ones and now
becomes kind of house of cards. So now you're coaching
when you're dealing with backup quarterbacks, are going to reach
out and trade for Garoppolo if that happens. Whatever. Now
we find out that's what's called coaching. Lots of dudes
(41:48):
can run out there with your ones when you have
the fastest you in the NFL and get rid of
it quick and score some points. Now you're coaching
Host
Doug Gottlieb
Popular Podcasts
Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club
Welcome to Bookmarked by Reese’s Book Club — the podcast where great stories, bold women, and irresistible conversations collide! Hosted by award-winning journalist Danielle Robay, each week new episodes balance thoughtful literary insight with the fervor of buzzy book trends, pop culture and more. Bookmarked brings together celebrities, tastemakers, influencers and authors from Reese's Book Club and beyond to share stories that transcend the page. Pull up a chair. You’re not just listening — you’re part of the conversation.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!