February 17, 2025 • 42 mins
On a Monday edition of The Best of the Doug Gottlieb Show: Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos in for Doug as they discuss a recent post by Lebron James on X about Doug Gottlieb.
Dan and Monse welcome Doug Gottlieb onto his own show to talk about his Horizon League win Sunday and about the tweet from Lebron.
Dan and Monse welcome Hall of Fame basketball coach Roy Williams onto the show to talk college hoops and something special Coach doing for his hometown people. Dan and Monse then discuss the NBA All-Star format.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Look, we were gonna talk about Lebron James anyway, it
was gonna happen Monty. Now we get to talk about
him in a whole new fashion. Welcome in. Happy President's Day.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
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Hit her up at Monty Belano. She did that all
off the top of her dome, right out of the gates.
She doesn't need a script lead any lines. I have
to say this. Doug Gottlieb, about two months ago, lost
a game to Michigan Tech. That tipped off at about
(01:13):
noon Eastern time, and the game ended probably at about
a little after two o'clock Eastern time, and that's when
the nobody you came out conversation came out and people
were saying, huh, Doug Gottlieb didn't even show up for
his own radio show that after making those comments. Well,
Number one, the comments were taken out of context. Number two,
(01:34):
Doug was never scheduled that day. You can't whether you
like the fact or don't like the fact that he's
got two gigs is beside the point the game that
was scheduled, with the window that it was, there was
no way he was going to be able to host
a nationally rated show. This was back in December, so
people think that he was ducking out. Do you think
today would be the day that Doug would duck out
(01:55):
after a victory? No? No, oh, absolutely not. So Doug
is not ducking out on anything. In fact, Doug actually
maybe joining us at some point on the show today,
even though we are in on this holiday. So we
hope to hear from Doug Gottlieb at some point within
the next two hours. But we heard from Lebron James
(02:16):
this morning, not on this show, but via Instagram, and
Doug Gottlieb was the target of his message. What did
I say? It was Twitter? Right? Yeah? What did I
say about? What did I Instagram? I meant x x x.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
X what like, you know what?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I still don't call it x So when I was like, yeah, Twitter, uhuh,
That's why I was confused, I was like, I don't
understand its Twitter? Yes on x X marks the Spot.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
College basketball report over the weekend. Prior to doug victory
yesterday against Wright State, tweeted out that Doug and the
Phoenix hadn't won a game in three months. The Phoenix
were currently two and twenty four. Oh, that was true.
They hadn't won a game since late November. Doug's talked
about it openly on the show. All he wanted was
(03:09):
a win. All he wanted was a win, and gosh,
Donnady got it yesterday against Wright State.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
First Horizon League victory. Congratulations to Doug Gottley been snapping
that twenty one game losing streak, and honestly, I'm just
happy for the kids. We don't know them personally, but
we've had interactions with the kids with going to his
opening game at Oklahoma State. I stopped buying and saw
Doug in the summer at Green Bay and met some
of the guys. So there's a connection there. And for
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as much as Doug has it, you know, Doug, Doug
Scott this job, Doug Scott that job. Doug's got his contract.
These kids have only these years, so you don't want
them to go on a twenty one game losing streak.
So for all of the hate and the vitrol that
Doug takes, there's also kids who are trying to live
out their basketball dream on a twenty one game losing streak.
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So Doug takes a lot of heat for this, But
I think of those kids who were so excited to
get that win yesterday and how awesome it was, and
how awesome that locker room scene was. Lebron James goes
and tweets today quoting the College Basketball Report tweet pointing
out that Doug hen won a game in three months.
Lebron James says earned two, not given. Got to give
him credit, though, Jason, you did the count and the emojis,
(04:19):
what are we on the emojing count? For the laughing
emojis from Lebron.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I count twenty three laughing emojis.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Nice in addition to five poop emojis.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Yes, not three.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Not five, not six, not seven.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
That didn't Angel did it.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
We were gonna talk about Lebron and him ducking out
of the All Star Game. We will and don't worry
real but this seems to be Lebron James. First of all,
I'm glad Jason actually made the distinction that it was
X because this isn't your following thing, Lebron's. It is
for you looking at everything else. Because this was from
Saturday when Lebron tweets this this morning, this is actually
(04:58):
dated information. This was early Sunday that they did it
before his game. So Lebron is on dated information but
couldn't wait to take a shot at Doug, which I
think is solely because of his Doug has said a
lot of stuff over the here that's ruffled feathers. But
Doug took shots at Bronnie James and Bronnie James' career,
and one of the phrases Doug is used is that
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Bronnie James is stint with the Lakers is more like
a make a wish situation that Bronnie James was a
make a Wish kid. That's where I think Lebron James
is piling on on Doug Gottlieb here and his now
three and twenty four record with the Green Bay Phoenix.
That's where I think this all stems from. This completely
distracting from the fact that he bailed out on the
(05:40):
All Star Game last night in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
This obviously stems from that. There's no question where that
tweet comes from. But Lebron, you don't have better things
to do than to tweet Doug Gottlieb about this win
like it is the lowest of hanging fruit. Isn't your
foot messed up? Shouldn't be worried about that? Like, I
don't get like why Lebron? To me, it makes Lebron
(06:06):
look a little bit pathetic if I'm being completely honest.
And what Doug said about Bronnie James, were acting like
nobody was critical of Bronnie James when everyone and their
mom was. So what Doug said wasn't breaking news or
a hot take. Nobody thought that Bronnie James was ready
for the NBA, And so to me, what Lebron. I'm like, Lebron,
this is the lowest hanging fruit. Come on, man, like
(06:27):
this is what you're tweeting about. You're gloating about this
to Doug Gottlieb Like, man, he lives a rent free
in your head.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Come on, man, and his point, his point, manci is
the exact point that Doug is trying to make about
Bronnie James. Yes, it's to be earned and not given.
And that was the problem that everyone had if they
had a problem with Bronnie James being drafted by the Lakers,
because we feel it was being given to him because
of his last name and knew his dad was. And unfortunately,
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Bronnie James is the victim in a lot of this
because he's the subject, but it does trace back to Lebron.
So it's completely hypocritical for Lebron to call out Doug
in being in a job that Lebron says was given
to him and not earned, when that's the whole point
that people are saying about Bronnie James, and whether Lebron
is trying to turn it in using Doug's words or
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other's words against Doug. There is the fact that college
basketball in college sports in general has turned to a
spot where maybe you don't necessarily need to be in
the coaching game for twenty five years. You need to
figure out a way to raise nil money and do
that sort of stuff and bring in different people. And honestly,
that is a strength that Doug has over other coaches.
(07:38):
Doug took the job in May, and I'm not sitting
here fighting the battles for Doug. But it's the point
of there's more of If you wanted to compare the two,
and if that's what Lebron is trying to do here,
Doug getting the job at Green Bay is ten times
one hundred times more legitimate than the Lakers taking a
flyer on Bronni James, who wasn't even ready for the
(07:59):
NBA Draft at this point.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Absolutely, I don't disagree with that. I don't know the
details of like what Doug has tried to do when
it comes to coaching, but I know this isn't his
first stint. I know he has some experience. Maybe it's
not the experience to this level, but I agree with
you this we're not comparing the same thing, and like
you said, it, it's now, It's times are different. You
(08:22):
are not looking for a necessarily older coach who's been
around you. You kind of want somebody to spice things up.
We were literally seeing that. I know Bill Belichick is
going to college. They're spicing that up too, Okay, in
a different way, but I'm with you, like it's it's
not the same. And again, it's just like makes Lebron Lebron,
this is not this is not the the tweet you
(08:42):
think it is. You're not cooking here, you.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
And there are there are people getting pushed, but there
are people They're gonna fight and argue with Lebron no
matter what he does. Likes that's true.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And people are gonna fight with Doug no matter what.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Absolutely, And there's also a part of me, honestly, like
I don't I feel a little weird because it's not
that Doug knee me to fight his battles. Doug can
handle this himself. I think Doug would welcome this, and
I think you'll welcome it when he's on the show
tomorrow and when he actually hopefully joins us today if
travel plans end up working out and allowing him to
do so, Like that's I don't need to fight anything
(09:15):
for Doug. It just is Lebron now in our world.
And I don't think this tweet erases what he did
last night from NBA Twitter, but it does in our
world of Fox Sports Radio, and it does on the
Doug Cottleeb Show, considering he's calling out Doug Gottlieb, you,
Jason Stewart. It even pointed out I thought of his
Doug's comments using the make a wish phrase, which, by
(09:36):
the way, not to discredit Doug, and other people have
used that term as well in talking about Bronni. You
felt it was another thing that Doug said that may
have gotten under Lebron's skin to make him go to
this route.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
I think Doug was the only division one head coach
in the country that said that he doesn't know if
Bronni would start for his team. That went viral. That
was over the summer. That was a little bold, and
I remember that got some run to Dan Patrick could
commented on it, and at the time it was consistent
with what Doug was saying about Brownie. But I think
(10:07):
maybe in a vacuum, if you just kind of saw that,
that would probably raise to get on Lebron's radar.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And I don't think Lebron has been sitting here waiting
for the right moment. Again. I think he was on
his for you page, not on the following page, maybe
sitting on the can, scrolling on a Monday morning, resting
that foot, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
The minute Doug one someone told him, They're like, hey,
this is your mom.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That's the thing is the tweet was already dated, like
because Doug won yesterday. And unless Lebron is a huge
Right State fan, we know how much he loves Ohio State,
being the Ohio guy, but maybe he also loves Right State,
which is in the state of Ohio. Could be that
could possibly be the case. But that's what happened. He
was scrolling the college basketball report. Tweet did gainsteam because
(10:52):
it's Doug and they haven't had a good season and
they were riding that twenty one game losing streak, so
it was completely Doug had no idea that Green Bay
played yesterday and actually won. He wanted his opportunity. He said,
oh wow, I remember what Doug Gottlieb said to Jason's
point or to my point about the make a wish stuff,
and now let's pile on. And maybe that's why there
were the five emojis at the end because of what
(11:14):
he was doing when it came up on his for
you page. That's exactly what happened.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
But either either way, Lebron, take care of your foot.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Come one.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
NBA Twitter isn't gonna worry about this, but we will
on Fox Sports obviously. Again, Doug's gonna respond to this
at some point, whether hopefully later on in the show
or even tomorrow. And if you think that he's ducking
you don't think Doug would want to come on the
show after a win, you know, after a victory, after
a big w that they got yesterday.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
All Right, this is the best of the Doug Gottlieb
Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio on this President's
Day holiday. I'm Dan Byerci's Monty Belango sitting in for Doug.
We're gonna hear from Doug in a matter of minutes,
not only talk about the ending of his twenty one
game losing streak as Green Bay topped Wright State yesterday,
but Doug was in the news because of a tweet
by one Lebron James and the coach of the Green
(12:12):
Bay Phoenix and host of the Doug Gottlieb Show, joins
us here on Fox Sports Radio. Doug, first off, congratulations
on the w on Sunday, Welcome to your own show.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
You know, two streaks broken eighty nine days, that'll win
streak one. And then as a program, we hadn't won
a Division One game at the Cres Center, which is
our on campus facility, since twenty twenty one. Wow, Now,
I'm fairness. We only play there about four to six
times a year, but it's been it's the curse of
(12:46):
the Cress. And it was Yeah, it was a lot.
So that was It was fun. It was great for
the guys. You know, they're just such a good group
of young men. And I've told I know everybody who
listens to the show, and then all these people who
come to town like they're awesome kids and they're totally
united on wanting to win every game. But you know,
(13:09):
the results just haven't been there. And yesterday, I thought
the second half of our game Friday night and then
probably the last thirty seven minutes actually most of the
game yesterday, like they were just awesome in terms of
buying in defensively and playing just as hard as they could.
They weren't perfect, they played really hard.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It was a fun game to watch. I was able
to watch the second half and even even a shot
clock breakdown couldn't stop the Phoenix from from snapping that
losing streak. And it's funny.
Speaker 8 (13:38):
Yeah, wait, we had a shot clock violation on defense
in the first half. That's when they were working. That's
how much better we've gotten defensively. We went from that's
I told our guys, we went from bottom five in
the country defensively to getting a shot clog violation against
a really good team. Like that's a good team. So yeah,
it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Now that the targets and stuff that you've had to
face throughout the last couple of months, it's new to
you because you're the head coach at Green Bay, but
when you're a talk sports talk show host for a living,
I know it's it's part of the territory. Well what
is it like and what is your response when Lebron
James tweets at you about your your coaching record and
(14:19):
what you've done at Green Bay so far the season?
Speaker 8 (14:21):
Well, you know, I had no idea, like I was.
I knew I had the day off at that point
in time, and so all a sudden I get, I
get like, my phone just goes crazy. When I was
getting ready to hang out with with Hayes and my
son and just like, what did you do to Lebron?
(14:43):
I was like, I'm I'm off, dude, I'm not even
I'm not on Soldier media today, I'm not on anything,
And what are you talking about? So people send it
to me? I don't know, I don't I don't think
it speaks well for somebody who like, don't you have
the day off? That's a better thing to do. Don't
you don't you have better things to do? My response
(15:05):
is Colin told me a long time ago, don't don't
punch down, always punch up, So me talking trash to
him would technically be punching up and him is punching down.
So I don't know. I mean, I guess pettiness and
insecurity aren't limited to people who aren't super successful in
(15:25):
their field. I guess that that would be my response.
I don't not really sure. Some kind of rant. Was
it some random Twitter handle who posted something about me
about our record? And then I got all the different
notes in the tweet, But it just doesn't I don't know.
It doesn't make any sense. Like why on a President's
(15:48):
Day Monday, when you have the day off, are you
worried about me? Not really sure?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Listen, coach I kind of said the same thing, you're
living rent free in his head. That literally what I said.
So it seems like you're you're not going to respond.
Speaker 8 (16:01):
Well, I don't know what, like what like it's not
like what what's the response? I don't really know what
do we have to respond to? Right? I don't know.
I mean he's just like, yeah, our record is not good, okay,
Like I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
I mean.
Speaker 8 (16:13):
All right, so like what what? What's what's the point?
My My thing is this, like if you're gonna talk
trash about me like a fine, you talk trash about records, fine,
if you're gonna actually do a story like you know,
like the guys like Brian died in the athletic and
there's one coming out at CBS Sports and there's one
coming out of USA today like investment in time and
figure out what's going on. But I don't I don't
(16:35):
even know what I'm responding to, just other than Lebron
talking ish uh too to me? Why because I didn't
think Bronnie should be a Dallads All American or should
have been the NBA draft pick. Like, okay, that's my
my job to give a sports opinion. So this is
what he wants to do. Like okay, like grab a
mic takes some trades, take some bullets. I don't know.
(16:57):
I don't I don't even know, Like what what's the sponsors?
Other than you know, he's trying to clown us for
our record, Like okay, hey, listen, if it was easy,
everybody would do it. And you know, I know what
we're doing. I know what we're building. I have an
incredible amount of pride, not just in the final score,
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but if you watch that game and I know, Dan
you did, how awesome was our bench? Like we have
like our you know, we have roughly forty points sitting
over there. Plus we have a couple of other guys
are injured, and then a couple of other guys are red shirting,
you know, guys in sweats, and they were awesome today.
Like that's what this is about. That's about teaching guys
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to be good teammates. And it's really hard because we're
in a society that doesn't teach young people to be
great teammates. Doesn't teach young people it's okay to sit
and cheer for somebody else who's doing work. We like you,
like we said, you haveked about Ben Tweety or no,
Jason has about Ben Tweety on the call, like you know,
I changed my starting lineup there so and then we
(17:59):
played c J O'Hara a bunch at the end of
the game. And so some of my starters did not
play a ton of minutes last night. And we're obviously
without you know, our far away our league score and player,
and without you know, Ton Levyard, our best inside player.
And you know, none of them are pouting like they're
all they're waving the towel, flapping fives. You know. So
(18:23):
I honestly I don't care. There's my response, Monci, there's
I could I gives zero f not even one.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I get that. Doug Gottlieb, by the way, guest on
his own show, The Doug Gottlieb Show, she is Moncey Bolonios.
I'm Dan buyer in for Doug is again you hear
Doug's traveling today. But when Lebron says something like this,
it doesn't matter to you. But you know that there's
probably fifteen kids that have spent their entire lives cheering
for Lebron James and now he's coming. Like, how does
that make you feel? Like, how do you how do
(18:54):
the players respond? Have they giving you any discourse on
stuff like that?
Speaker 8 (19:00):
Well, my players have all like texted me or called
me and said, you know, something along the lines basically
of hey, we got your back, and I'm like, don't
worry about like I'm buying. I'm a big boy. But
like my son, like he hopped in the car, He's like, dude,
I love Lebron. What did you say, Lebron? No, I
(19:21):
said nothing and nothing like Dan those The only thing
I've ever said here recently is if the worst thing
he's done is forced his son's way into the NBA
in twenty years, So that's literally the worst crime he's committed.
He's had a pretty good career, right, Like, he's arguably
one of the one of the best players in the
history of the sport, multi time Olympian, all time league
(19:44):
scoring the NBA and in comparison to things that others
have done, like he's a relative angel. I don't think
he's done right by his son in trying to He's
done right by his son in terms of trying to
force him into the in the NBA. But other than that,
like all right, now we're just you know, now we're
just picking on dudes like Giannis's brothers are in the league.
(20:06):
You know, we go back to that stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So different when it's your kid, though, you know, it's
different when it's your.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
Kid, Yeah, of course, yeah, yeah, But like look, if
you don't, you can't I understand that he's If that's
what he's responding to, why is you responding.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
To it now?
Speaker 8 (20:25):
It's so weird. The whole thing is so weird. It's
like somebody told him, Hey, Doug gottlieb is or whatever.
Like I'm not even really sure why, you know, Like
I don't even get it. I honestly, it's kind of
a loser deal, just is. It's like one of those
you don't have more important things going on in your
life on a Monday on an All Star break than
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tweeting about me and our Kings record.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I thought he was sitting on the can on X
scrolling through the for you, because it's not a following thing.
It was an old tweet you had already won a game,
and it came up, and I think that that popped
in and that's that's when he took the opportunity.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
So he was so he was. Is that called trolling?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
What was that called?
Speaker 8 (21:07):
When you're like searching your somebody's name or your own
name and.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I don't think you searched it. I have a feeling
it popped up so that in his algorithm, I think
so like it was in his Why was my?
Speaker 8 (21:20):
Why was green Bay basketball? I mean, that doesn't speak
to doesn't speak to what ultimately is gonna happen here
at Green Bay. I don't know what does.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
I don't know that, Lebron.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I'm just guessing.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
James just tweeting about it on a Monday, that we're
in people's algorithm.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
How about how about I can say I'm not in
his head, but I'm in his algorithm, which is kind
of the same thing. That's Hey, hey, Lebron, I'm in
your algorithm.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
You'll have more to say when you're back in your
chair tomorrow. I'm sure congrats on that.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
I just people were people were just so mean. I
don't know. Damn we dam we won. Nothing's gonna nothing's
gonna stop this high.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I know, I know. I said, you have the fifth
longest winning streak in the Horizon League. We said yesterday
Monzi did breaking news because it was during my show
when you won, and yeah, we had the game on
and the whole deal. It was great song.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Yeah, that's very nice.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
I mean, like, look again, my statement is, I don't care.
I really wish. I would love an explanation for why
a four year old with three kids, you know, one's
a professional player on All Star break, is even on Twitter,
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let alone, worried about me crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I just felt bad for your players if they took
any heat, but obviously so, they're.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
Taking plenty of heat. They don't need it. They're fine.
By the way. By the way, all of them just
called me from the gym on the day off.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
All right, let's make it back to back. Yeah, Doug,
we appreciate it. Talk to you, sir. Doug Gottlieb, host
of his own show. Here at The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
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Speaker 2 (23:15):
Doug Gottlieb Show at Fox Sports Radio. Happy President's Day.
She's Monte Belanos. I'm Dan Byer. Let's get right to it.
Joining us on the program right now, spending time with
us on behalf of Verizons Hall of Fame basketball coach
Roy Williams joining us in coach. Thanks so much for
coming on the program. Usually we bring you on, we
(23:37):
talk coops, we do the plug at the end, but
this plug is different than any others. You're teaming up
with Verizon because what you are doing with Western Carolina
is absolutely amazing. You are erasing their debts of more
than twelve million dollars for over sixty five hundred people
in the area that you call home. You're from Asheville,
North Carolina, for those recovering from the devis station that
(24:00):
occurred with Hurricane Helene. You're actually making phone calls telling
people that their debts being erased. First of all, welcome,
but how does it feel to make those sort of
phone calls to basically the area where you're from.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Well, Dan, thank you very much for your comments, and
you'll be sure to tell Doug it's a lot more
fun talking to you than it would have been him.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I won't throw any retirement rumors out. I won't do that.
You don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Yeah, I'm still I'm gonna be retired today, tonight, tomorrow,
and everything. But no, thank you very much for those comments.
And you're exactly right. I mean, Verizon's given that money
to erase debt for sixty five hundred North Carolinians that
were affected by problems, particularly those with a Hurricane Helene.
And I mean it's a good deal for me because
(24:48):
I believe so much in One of the things they
say is we will always stand by you. And I
think that for us, for me and my family, being
able to do something that might perhaps bring some We're
attention to what Verizon's doing, and perhaps somebody else will
start doing some other things because it was really a
difficult time. And people can see the pictures like I did,
(25:11):
they can see the show on the Weather Channel like
I did, but until you come and look and see.
We have a home in western North Caroline. We stayed
there during the summertime, very close to where we grew up,
and four days after the start of the hurricane, we
became up and brought some gallance jugs and water to
our little community. We did. There's three ways to get
(25:32):
to my house. Two of them bought completely in the
other one was one lane. Last week drive to Ashton
and drive on up to Knoxville, Tennessee, and to see
Tennessee play against Missouri. And what the devastation that you
see in the mountains of North Carolina on into Tennessee.
Pictures don't do it justice. And then you see cars
(25:52):
and trucks down in the middle of the river, still
sitting there, you know, one hundred days later, and the
Interstate forty is gone from Ashville to Knoxville. And so
for me to be involved in touch and actually people
and relieve, giving them some relief on their dead, it's
just it's been a neat morning for me, and it's
given them some more hope. And because I think my
(26:14):
hope is that other people will see this and get
the feeling that I had, and they'll do even more
of themselves.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Roy Williams joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. I think that it's great. Sometimes
we see these tragedies and then we just move on
with our lives, and there's still devastation that needs to
be dealt with and you're doing a great thing. Let's
talk a little hoops right now. I know year four
for Hubert Davis hasn't been the greatest. You just mentioned
going to check out Miszoo, Tennessee. I saw your thing
(26:42):
with coach k that you did with the North Carolina coaches,
and you kind of joked of you know, it took
me a while to not be a coach. You know,
maybe I jumped up in my seat once or twice.
But now you're a couple of year years removed. Maybe
things aren't going great with the tar Heels right now
on the BAA tournament, do you have conversations with Hubert
(27:03):
and what do you think about the state of where
the tar Heels are in year four under him?
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Well, it's it has been a tougher year. We've had
so many close games and we've won a couple, but
we've lost some of those games too, And it's they're
in a position right now that we haven't been in
very often. And it's been harder on Coach Davis and
his staff and the players than it has anybody else.
But when I talk to the fans, they act like
it's they're the ones that are hurting. You're not hurting
(27:28):
anything like the players and the coaches are. But yes,
I do see. Excuse me, I think it's six games left.
I think we're going to have a great last three
weeks of the season. I still think that we're going
to make the tournament. We get into tournament, I think
we can get some things going and do some things
that would make everybody very proud. But coach Hubert Davis
(27:48):
is fantastic, doing a fantastic job.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
R J.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
Davis was the last player that's that I recruited that's
still on the team. I still have that little feeling
for that, you know, man who's had a great, great career.
And so I'm still in the stands. I've only missed
two home games in four years and don't expect to
miss any of the rest of this season. So at
the end of the season, there'll be two home games
that I've missed in four years, and they're a lot
(28:13):
harder to watch as a fan. When I was coaching,
I was always thinking about the next possession, next possession,
next possession. I wasn't thinking about the score. Now look
at the score every five seconds to see if it's changed.
So it's much more difficult, But I think we just
need to put a little run together here and if
we do, then I think we'll make the tournament. And
I have faith in our team that we can make
(28:35):
a run. And we've seen it before last year in
North Carolina State made a great run. There's been one
or two teams every year that really get things going
at the end of the year, and I think we
can be one of those teams.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
One of the things that I I've always wanted to
ask you was Roy Williams joining us here on the
Doug Gottlieb Show. By the way, she's Monti Bolonio, so
I'm dan byer in for Doug today. Was the transition
from you to Hubert because it wasn't Dean Smith to
use Bill Guthritch Matt Doherty and then you end up
taking over and winning the national title in two thousand
(29:06):
and five. But did you learn from anything to handing
the reins over to Hubert from when you took the
job at North Carolina. Was there anything from that transition
that you used in passing your own torch over to Hubert.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Well, I had tremendous faith in Hubert. It still do,
and I think he's the nicest person I've ever known
who is also fiercely competitive, and I think that's a
great combination. I'm extremely happy he's our coach. I mean,
his first year we played for the national championship. His
second year was not a good year. But his third year,
we won the regular season, and that is hard to do.
(29:42):
It was hard to do when it's fifteen teams, much less.
I think we've got one hundred and six teams in
the league. Now maybe it's just eighteen, but it seems
like we got the nation covered. But so this year
has been a little bit of an up and down year.
But for us, we still have a chance. There's a
lot of teams that are just going to play out
their schedule. We have something to fight for. But to
(30:03):
answer your question, I had tremendous confidence who still have
coredremendous confidence in Hubert. He knows where I am. I
don't go and knock on his door and say, let's
talk about this on offense of this on defense. I
don't do that. We do talk, we do text back
and forth. But I'm a fan right now, and that's
the way I like it. Right now. If I was
(30:23):
not going to be a fan. I would have stayed
in coaching. And you know, other people have come up
and asked me if I wanted another job, and I
said no, if I was going to continue working, I
had the best job in the world. So our best
job for Roy Williams, and there's no question. But I
do believe we have a chance. And you know, you
look down their bench, or I looked down their bench
and the last player I recruited as an assistant at
(30:43):
North Carolina for coach Tin Smith, what's huber Dates and
everybody else on that staff either recruited or helped recruit.
And some of them, like Sean May and Marcus Page,
they played for me. So it's that's my family and
it's not going to change my support.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
For them, all right. Well, then the last one, since
you're now a fan, do you despise Cooper flag Johnny, Okay,
I'm just gonna say he's a duchie. Now that you're
a fan, we'd give you a pass if that was
the case.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
No, don't do I don't do that at all. I
think he's been a great, great player. I enjoy watching
him play. I would really like to see him play
three weeks and now, and this about every shot. You
know he's going to do well. He can have one
terrible game and that'll be fine with me. But he
appears to be a great young man, a great kid.
I'm seventy four friaking years old and called him just
(31:33):
about anybody a kid, But it appears to be a
great kid who's really gifted and really does some good
things for his team. And you can tell that he
puts in the sweat equity and I love that well absolutely.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
And yesterday on my show, I announced that Cooper Flagg
was born in December of two thousand and six, so
he wasn't even born when you won the first title
at North Carolina. It blew my mind for me in
my late forties. I'm like, oh my goodness, two thousand
and six, crazy crazy, But yeah, I can't best rivalry
in college basketball by far. Before we let you go, coach,
(32:05):
if anyone is listening, if they want to help out,
if they're still struggling from the aftermath of Hurricane Heleen,
what is your message to them today.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
That everybody can help and if you can just help
a little, that is still help. And the people that
I spoke with on the phone this morning, either FaceTime
or just on the phone. They were so appreciative and
they need help. And there's so many other people. There's
so many organizations the Red Cross or whatever here in
North Carolina that are really taking as many contributions in
(32:40):
you know, food or clothing or money or whatever, and
it does go to help these people. And if you again,
if you see in person the devastation, it is mind boggling.
And like I say, I watched it on the Weather Channel,
saw all the pictures, but when I see it, it's
still just mind boggling. And where I used to be
a high school coach, Swan and nohen Black Mountain area,
(33:02):
so many things are gone. And so that's that's what's
really heartbreaking, and that needs that people have lost homes
and loved ones.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Well, coach, you'd like to thank you and Verizon for
teaming up to wipe out the ten million dollar debt
for those thousands of people that are still vulnerable from
Hurricane Helene. You're calling families today. I hope no one's
hanging up on you thinking it's a prank call, because
that's pretty awesome. But thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
They've been very good. Thank you very much, Stan, and
you have a great day too.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Roy Williams, Hall of Fame coach, Tar Heels, Jayhawks, the
whole shebang joining us here. Kid is the Doug Gottlieb Show,
Life onthetirerec dot Com Studios, All Star.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Weekends, All Star Weekend. It's also I think today Michael
Jordan's birthday. It's also my friend Natalie's birthday. I always
remember it like that.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
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Speaker 2 (34:09):
I mean, is the lone takeaway from All Star Weekend
that Lebron didn't play?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
No, Okay, but that's a big part of it. But no,
because it was so bad. The product itself was so bad.
Like I thought I was gonna watch basketball. I didn't
think I was gonna watch Kevin Hart and then a
little bit of basketball, like and I don't even dislike
Kevin Hart. He I know a lot of people do
not like him, find him a little bit of annoying
because it's the same stuff every time. But I just
(34:34):
was unaware that I was watching a Kevin Hart show
with a little bit of basketball in it. There was
how much basketball? Maybe thirty minutes and I was sitting
there for three and a half hours.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Breaks, Yeah, get out of my face.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Why the whole thing was bad?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
They even interrupted the championship game to honor the TNT crew.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Exactly, and I was like, why are we honor? Aren't
they back together? Aren't they I'm still doing this next year.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I actually didn't think it was I didn't hate the
play like you did.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
But I if I'm tuning in to watch the All
Star Game, I want to watch the game. I want
to watch the players play. I don't care about Kevin Hart.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
Shake Gil.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Just Alexander was not having it when Kevin Hart was
trying to make fun of him. That made no sense.
I just that's not why we tune in to watch
the NBA All Star Game. If you wanted to add
those antics, maybe to the Dunk Contest, the Skills contest,
and have Kevin Hart out there making jokes. Maybe, but
this is not This is not why I tuned in.
(35:36):
I had hopes. Why I don't know that I had hopes.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I want to bring Jason in on this, Jason, because
I have a thought and I just know where he's at,
and I'm curious on your thoughts as well. Jason Stewart's
our executive producer. To Manti's point, there was a point
where Kevin Hart was introduced like he was an all star, yes,
like he was actually one of the players. He came
from the tunnel, they had graphics and he was there
(36:01):
the whole time.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
And then he got on award like a participation.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Trophy, which was funny because it was small. It is
the same joke over and over. Yes, no, No, Jason
loves to talk politics, and not that I'm going to
make this a politics conversation, but I feel that there
were people turned off in the Fall because of the
number of celebrities that were being brought out by Democrats,
(36:26):
and I feel that that's what this is as well,
Like how many different things are you trying to bring
out to to to fool us and I don't want
to use fooling in the politics sort of way, but
it's just of like, okay, enough already, you don't understand
what my needs are. Bringing out another celebrity doesn't do
anything for me. I actually felt there was a little
(36:47):
bit of a parallel with that to Manti's point of
here we're bringing out why are we bringing out Kevin
Hart to spice up the NBA All Star Game or
why is why is it needed that Caitlin Clark's got
to come out from the outside. Do you find any
parallels to that?
Speaker 5 (37:01):
I hadn't until you just said it. So let me
just so I'm tracking this right. So instead of delivering
the lacking substance, they're delivering these shiny objects, yes, distract
people from the lack of substance. Correct, Yeah, I think
that's a great parallel.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
I wanted to watch the game, and you know what,
the little bit of game we did get, there were
some fun moments, there were there was a little bit
of defense, there was some block shots. But again, in
a three and a half hour broadcast, I think I
watched thirty minutes of an.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
NBA game, with some of that being from rising stars
who weren't all stars.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Who weren't All stars who weren't And I.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Had no problem with that.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Trying a little bit more, I have a problem with it,
but that's a separate conversation.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Now they shouldn't be there. I agree they should not
have been there, But that, to me wasn't the biggest
problem in the product that you provided me. You know
what I'm saying, Like it was just so much. I
just was like, what are we doing? Like we are
you realize that you have nothing, so you threw all
of this crap at us, and now I'm just like,
just cancel it all. Just cancel it, bring it back
(38:05):
in five years and make us miss it, because that
was so bad. That was worse than anything. Bring back,
I tweeted it. I take it all back, Bring back
the high scoring, no defense, bring that game back.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I would have rather. We actually thought last year's was better.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
No stoppages, no stoppages, no crap all around, all this fluff.
Like I'm just like, you know, don't spit in my
face and tell me a training that's not the All
Star game. That was not an All Star game. That
was some sort of almost like a like an awards
show where You're like, what.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Was the point of this?
Speaker 3 (38:34):
You know, like when I watched when I watched the Oscars,
I'm like, why am I watching those?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
That was a pointless I the o little drama that
I felt was who was going to hit the shot
for the shack team, if it was going to be
Dame Lillard or Steph Curry. And then they kept taking
threes when you can get you could get two, two's
easiest pie. And so that's what annoyed me is they
wanted to make it a three from twenty eight feet
(38:59):
that ended it. And then slowly, and this was in
the Rising Stars matchup, slowly the Rising Stars started to
come back and I'm like, wait, I don't want to
watch another fifteen minutes of these guys play. You better
end the game. Than finally Durant had a donk and
then they did end on a big shot. But for
a while they were just putts it around.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
If you will yes, And then when you said the shot,
I thought, I was like, yeah, like when mister Beast
came out and you were like, what is this guy
doing here? Like happy for the kid who won one
hundred thousand dollars by all means, but.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
What I was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Why is mister Beast out here with it?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Just I actually liked that part. I thought it was
I thought it was unique. I do think that Dame
gained the system. I think he purposely missed shots, hope,
so because of a guy. Yeah, and then it went
on too long. Yeah, and so they were about to
wrap up. He's like these going to commercial guard seconds.
You got to do this, and the kid MJ's over
Elo from thirty seven feet and banks it in like
(39:56):
it crazy, but I did. I did find that great.
But to the that shouldn't save the All Star Game.
We should be tuning in the TNT to see if
a kid wins on hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
And if you tune in to put on the All
Star Game, let's say you haven't been watching it, you
and you see mister Beast. If I'm again, if I
am tuning in to watch the best players in the
NBA play and I haven't been watching, I tune in
and there's mister Beast, I would be like, click next.
I guess I'm not watching the All Stars. That's not
what I'm tuning in for.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
It was neat when he hit the shot.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
I was that good for him.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
I was so happy for the kid because he was.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Near the buzzer. And by the way, they didn't go
to commercial thirty seconds later. They ended up just like
going on. But I agree with your point. The fishing
gear was was funny in theory when you write it
on paper and you say we're gonna give the TNT
guys their fishing gear because they send everybody else out
on fishing gear.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Sure that it wasn't that in the middle like again,
it was.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
It was not only in the middle. There wasn't even
like a halftime. It was it was during the game
when it was like eleven to one, right, it's really weird,
and then it went on for way longer. You're right,
there were way too many stoppages. I was not opposed
to the play that we saw. There were a lot
of easy baskets. But again it does effected. Yeah, like
(41:14):
those sorts of things are expected. The different of how
different it was in something to play for and at
the end you're trying to make them win. That's what
the whole deal was. In the fourth quarter back in
the day of all right, they can mess around for
three quarters, but in the fourth quarter, let's try to win.
So now the NBA is trying to figure out a way, Well,
what about if we have three different scenarios where you've
(41:36):
got late game situations. It all works on paper, it
doesn't work when it's on the basketball court.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
I really do think it would have been better if
there weren't that many breaks in between. And I get
I get it, you're trying to keep people tuned in,
which is how you broke it up, but put all
of that antics at the end, Like, I don't they
literally were making them. I think Jason Tatum after the
game was like we had to like wait twenty minutes
in between like games or a time out.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
So is it the NBA's problem or is it TNT's
problem for trying to make it a TV show?
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Both both, because you know a lot of people approved it.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
She's Moncey Bologno. So I'm Dan Buyer in for Doug
Gottlieb today, we are with you for the next three
plus hours. We're in for Covino and Rich as well.
Here on Fox Sports Radio. We hope to hear from
Doug Gottlieb. There's gonna be plenty more all star talk.
Kevin Durant had his say, Monzi's even got more to say.
Hit her up at Monci Blagnos. You can find me
(42:30):
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Hit her up at Monty Belano. She did that all
off the top of her dome, right out of the gates.
She doesn't need a script lead any lines. I have
to say this. Doug Gottlieb, about two months ago, lost
a game to Michigan Tech. That tipped off at about
(01:13):
noon Eastern time, and the game ended probably at about
a little after two o'clock Eastern time, and that's when
the nobody you came out conversation came out and people
were saying, huh, Doug Gottlieb didn't even show up for
his own radio show that after making those comments. Well,
Number one, the comments were taken out of context. Number two,
(01:34):
Doug was never scheduled that day. You can't whether you
like the fact or don't like the fact that he's
got two gigs is beside the point the game that
was scheduled, with the window that it was, there was
no way he was going to be able to host
a nationally rated show. This was back in December, so
people think that he was ducking out. Do you think
today would be the day that Doug would duck out
(01:55):
after a victory? No? No, oh, absolutely not. So Doug
is not ducking out on anything. In fact, Doug actually
maybe joining us at some point on the show today,
even though we are in on this holiday. So we
hope to hear from Doug Gottlieb at some point within
the next two hours. But we heard from Lebron James
(02:16):
this morning, not on this show, but via Instagram, and
Doug Gottlieb was the target of his message. What did
I say? It was Twitter? Right? Yeah? What did I
say about? What did I Instagram? I meant x x x.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
X what like, you know what?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I still don't call it x So when I was like, yeah, Twitter, uhuh,
That's why I was confused, I was like, I don't
understand its Twitter? Yes on x X marks the Spot.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
College basketball report over the weekend. Prior to doug victory
yesterday against Wright State, tweeted out that Doug and the
Phoenix hadn't won a game in three months. The Phoenix
were currently two and twenty four. Oh, that was true.
They hadn't won a game since late November. Doug's talked
about it openly on the show. All he wanted was
(03:09):
a win. All he wanted was a win, and gosh,
Donnady got it yesterday against Wright State.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
First Horizon League victory. Congratulations to Doug Gottley been snapping
that twenty one game losing streak, and honestly, I'm just
happy for the kids. We don't know them personally, but
we've had interactions with the kids with going to his
opening game at Oklahoma State. I stopped buying and saw
Doug in the summer at Green Bay and met some
of the guys. So there's a connection there. And for
(03:36):
as much as Doug has it, you know, Doug, Doug
Scott this job, Doug Scott that job. Doug's got his contract.
These kids have only these years, so you don't want
them to go on a twenty one game losing streak.
So for all of the hate and the vitrol that
Doug takes, there's also kids who are trying to live
out their basketball dream on a twenty one game losing streak.
(03:56):
So Doug takes a lot of heat for this, But
I think of those kids who were so excited to
get that win yesterday and how awesome it was, and
how awesome that locker room scene was. Lebron James goes
and tweets today quoting the College Basketball Report tweet pointing
out that Doug hen won a game in three months.
Lebron James says earned two, not given. Got to give
him credit, though, Jason, you did the count and the emojis,
(04:19):
what are we on the emojing count? For the laughing
emojis from Lebron.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I count twenty three laughing emojis.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Nice in addition to five poop emojis.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Yes, not three.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Not five, not six, not seven.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
That didn't Angel did it.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
We were gonna talk about Lebron and him ducking out
of the All Star Game. We will and don't worry
real but this seems to be Lebron James. First of all,
I'm glad Jason actually made the distinction that it was
X because this isn't your following thing, Lebron's. It is
for you looking at everything else. Because this was from
Saturday when Lebron tweets this this morning, this is actually
(04:58):
dated information. This was early Sunday that they did it
before his game. So Lebron is on dated information but
couldn't wait to take a shot at Doug, which I
think is solely because of his Doug has said a
lot of stuff over the here that's ruffled feathers. But
Doug took shots at Bronnie James and Bronnie James' career,
and one of the phrases Doug is used is that
(05:20):
Bronnie James is stint with the Lakers is more like
a make a wish situation that Bronnie James was a
make a Wish kid. That's where I think Lebron James
is piling on on Doug Gottlieb here and his now
three and twenty four record with the Green Bay Phoenix.
That's where I think this all stems from. This completely
distracting from the fact that he bailed out on the
(05:40):
All Star Game last night in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
This obviously stems from that. There's no question where that
tweet comes from. But Lebron, you don't have better things
to do than to tweet Doug Gottlieb about this win
like it is the lowest of hanging fruit. Isn't your
foot messed up? Shouldn't be worried about that? Like, I
don't get like why Lebron? To me, it makes Lebron
(06:06):
look a little bit pathetic if I'm being completely honest.
And what Doug said about Bronnie James, were acting like
nobody was critical of Bronnie James when everyone and their
mom was. So what Doug said wasn't breaking news or
a hot take. Nobody thought that Bronnie James was ready
for the NBA, And so to me, what Lebron. I'm like, Lebron,
this is the lowest hanging fruit. Come on, man, like
(06:27):
this is what you're tweeting about. You're gloating about this
to Doug Gottlieb Like, man, he lives a rent free
in your head.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Come on, man, and his point, his point, manci is
the exact point that Doug is trying to make about
Bronnie James. Yes, it's to be earned and not given.
And that was the problem that everyone had if they
had a problem with Bronnie James being drafted by the Lakers,
because we feel it was being given to him because
of his last name and knew his dad was. And unfortunately,
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Bronnie James is the victim in a lot of this
because he's the subject, but it does trace back to Lebron.
So it's completely hypocritical for Lebron to call out Doug
in being in a job that Lebron says was given
to him and not earned, when that's the whole point
that people are saying about Bronnie James, and whether Lebron
is trying to turn it in using Doug's words or
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other's words against Doug. There is the fact that college
basketball in college sports in general has turned to a
spot where maybe you don't necessarily need to be in
the coaching game for twenty five years. You need to
figure out a way to raise nil money and do
that sort of stuff and bring in different people. And honestly,
that is a strength that Doug has over other coaches.
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Doug took the job in May, and I'm not sitting
here fighting the battles for Doug. But it's the point
of there's more of If you wanted to compare the two,
and if that's what Lebron is trying to do here,
Doug getting the job at Green Bay is ten times
one hundred times more legitimate than the Lakers taking a
flyer on Bronni James, who wasn't even ready for the
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NBA Draft at this point.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Absolutely, I don't disagree with that. I don't know the
details of like what Doug has tried to do when
it comes to coaching, but I know this isn't his
first stint. I know he has some experience. Maybe it's
not the experience to this level, but I agree with
you this we're not comparing the same thing, and like
you said, it, it's now, It's times are different. You
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are not looking for a necessarily older coach who's been
around you. You kind of want somebody to spice things up.
We were literally seeing that. I know Bill Belichick is
going to college. They're spicing that up too, Okay, in
a different way, but I'm with you, like it's it's
not the same. And again, it's just like makes Lebron Lebron,
this is not this is not the the tweet you
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think it is. You're not cooking here, you.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
And there are there are people getting pushed, but there
are people They're gonna fight and argue with Lebron no
matter what he does. Likes that's true.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And people are gonna fight with Doug no matter what.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Absolutely, And there's also a part of me, honestly, like
I don't I feel a little weird because it's not
that Doug knee me to fight his battles. Doug can
handle this himself. I think Doug would welcome this, and
I think you'll welcome it when he's on the show
tomorrow and when he actually hopefully joins us today if
travel plans end up working out and allowing him to
do so, Like that's I don't need to fight anything
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for Doug. It just is Lebron now in our world.
And I don't think this tweet erases what he did
last night from NBA Twitter, but it does in our
world of Fox Sports Radio, and it does on the
Doug Cottleeb Show, considering he's calling out Doug Gottlieb, you,
Jason Stewart. It even pointed out I thought of his
Doug's comments using the make a wish phrase, which, by
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the way, not to discredit Doug, and other people have
used that term as well in talking about Bronni. You
felt it was another thing that Doug said that may
have gotten under Lebron's skin to make him go to
this route.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
I think Doug was the only division one head coach
in the country that said that he doesn't know if
Bronni would start for his team. That went viral. That
was over the summer. That was a little bold, and
I remember that got some run to Dan Patrick could
commented on it, and at the time it was consistent
with what Doug was saying about Brownie. But I think
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maybe in a vacuum, if you just kind of saw that,
that would probably raise to get on Lebron's radar.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And I don't think Lebron has been sitting here waiting
for the right moment. Again. I think he was on
his for you page, not on the following page, maybe
sitting on the can, scrolling on a Monday morning, resting
that foot, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
The minute Doug one someone told him, They're like, hey,
this is your mom.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That's the thing is the tweet was already dated, like
because Doug won yesterday. And unless Lebron is a huge
Right State fan, we know how much he loves Ohio State,
being the Ohio guy, but maybe he also loves Right State,
which is in the state of Ohio. Could be that
could possibly be the case. But that's what happened. He
was scrolling the college basketball report. Tweet did gainsteam because
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it's Doug and they haven't had a good season and
they were riding that twenty one game losing streak, so
it was completely Doug had no idea that Green Bay
played yesterday and actually won. He wanted his opportunity. He said,
oh wow, I remember what Doug Gottlieb said to Jason's
point or to my point about the make a wish stuff,
and now let's pile on. And maybe that's why there
were the five emojis at the end because of what
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he was doing when it came up on his for
you page. That's exactly what happened.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
But either either way, Lebron, take care of your foot.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Come one.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
NBA Twitter isn't gonna worry about this, but we will
on Fox Sports obviously. Again, Doug's gonna respond to this
at some point, whether hopefully later on in the show
or even tomorrow. And if you think that he's ducking
you don't think Doug would want to come on the
show after a win, you know, after a victory, after
a big w that they got yesterday.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
All Right, this is the best of the Doug Gottlieb
Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio on this President's
Day holiday. I'm Dan Byerci's Monty Belango sitting in for Doug.
We're gonna hear from Doug in a matter of minutes,
not only talk about the ending of his twenty one
game losing streak as Green Bay topped Wright State yesterday,
but Doug was in the news because of a tweet
by one Lebron James and the coach of the Green
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Bay Phoenix and host of the Doug Gottlieb Show, joins
us here on Fox Sports Radio. Doug, first off, congratulations
on the w on Sunday, Welcome to your own show.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
You know, two streaks broken eighty nine days, that'll win
streak one. And then as a program, we hadn't won
a Division One game at the Cres Center, which is
our on campus facility, since twenty twenty one. Wow, Now,
I'm fairness. We only play there about four to six
times a year, but it's been it's the curse of
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the Cress. And it was Yeah, it was a lot.
So that was It was fun. It was great for
the guys. You know, they're just such a good group
of young men. And I've told I know everybody who
listens to the show, and then all these people who
come to town like they're awesome kids and they're totally
united on wanting to win every game. But you know,
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the results just haven't been there. And yesterday, I thought
the second half of our game Friday night and then
probably the last thirty seven minutes actually most of the
game yesterday, like they were just awesome in terms of
buying in defensively and playing just as hard as they could.
They weren't perfect, they played really hard.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It was a fun game to watch. I was able
to watch the second half and even even a shot
clock breakdown couldn't stop the Phoenix from from snapping that
losing streak. And it's funny.
Speaker 8 (13:38):
Yeah, wait, we had a shot clock violation on defense
in the first half. That's when they were working. That's
how much better we've gotten defensively. We went from that's
I told our guys, we went from bottom five in
the country defensively to getting a shot clog violation against
a really good team. Like that's a good team. So yeah,
it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Now that the targets and stuff that you've had to
face throughout the last couple of months, it's new to
you because you're the head coach at Green Bay, but
when you're a talk sports talk show host for a living,
I know it's it's part of the territory. Well what
is it like and what is your response when Lebron
James tweets at you about your your coaching record and
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what you've done at Green Bay so far the season?
Speaker 8 (14:21):
Well, you know, I had no idea, like I was.
I knew I had the day off at that point
in time, and so all a sudden I get, I
get like, my phone just goes crazy. When I was
getting ready to hang out with with Hayes and my
son and just like, what did you do to Lebron?
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I was like, I'm I'm off, dude, I'm not even
I'm not on Soldier media today, I'm not on anything,
And what are you talking about? So people send it
to me? I don't know, I don't I don't think
it speaks well for somebody who like, don't you have
the day off? That's a better thing to do. Don't
you don't you have better things to do? My response
(15:05):
is Colin told me a long time ago, don't don't
punch down, always punch up, So me talking trash to
him would technically be punching up and him is punching down.
So I don't know. I mean, I guess pettiness and
insecurity aren't limited to people who aren't super successful in
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their field. I guess that that would be my response.
I don't not really sure. Some kind of rant. Was
it some random Twitter handle who posted something about me
about our record? And then I got all the different
notes in the tweet, But it just doesn't I don't know.
It doesn't make any sense. Like why on a President's
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Day Monday, when you have the day off, are you
worried about me? Not really sure?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Listen, coach I kind of said the same thing, you're
living rent free in his head. That literally what I said.
So it seems like you're you're not going to respond.
Speaker 8 (16:01):
Well, I don't know what, like what like it's not
like what what's the response? I don't really know what
do we have to respond to? Right? I don't know.
I mean he's just like, yeah, our record is not good, okay,
Like I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
I mean.
Speaker 8 (16:13):
All right, so like what what? What's what's the point?
My My thing is this, like if you're gonna talk
trash about me like a fine, you talk trash about records, fine,
if you're gonna actually do a story like you know,
like the guys like Brian died in the athletic and
there's one coming out at CBS Sports and there's one
coming out of USA today like investment in time and
figure out what's going on. But I don't I don't
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even know what I'm responding to, just other than Lebron
talking ish uh too to me? Why because I didn't
think Bronnie should be a Dallads All American or should
have been the NBA draft pick. Like, okay, that's my
my job to give a sports opinion. So this is
what he wants to do. Like okay, like grab a
mic takes some trades, take some bullets. I don't know.
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I don't I don't even know, Like what what's the sponsors?
Other than you know, he's trying to clown us for
our record, Like okay, hey, listen, if it was easy,
everybody would do it. And you know, I know what
we're doing. I know what we're building. I have an
incredible amount of pride, not just in the final score,
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but if you watch that game and I know, Dan
you did, how awesome was our bench? Like we have
like our you know, we have roughly forty points sitting
over there. Plus we have a couple of other guys
are injured, and then a couple of other guys are red shirting,
you know, guys in sweats, and they were awesome today.
Like that's what this is about. That's about teaching guys
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to be good teammates. And it's really hard because we're
in a society that doesn't teach young people to be
great teammates. Doesn't teach young people it's okay to sit
and cheer for somebody else who's doing work. We like you,
like we said, you haveked about Ben Tweety or no,
Jason has about Ben Tweety on the call, like you know,
I changed my starting lineup there so and then we
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played c J O'Hara a bunch at the end of
the game. And so some of my starters did not
play a ton of minutes last night. And we're obviously
without you know, our far away our league score and player,
and without you know, Ton Levyard, our best inside player.
And you know, none of them are pouting like they're
all they're waving the towel, flapping fives. You know. So
(18:23):
I honestly I don't care. There's my response, Monci, there's
I could I gives zero f not even one.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I get that. Doug Gottlieb, by the way, guest on
his own show, The Doug Gottlieb Show, she is Moncey Bolonios.
I'm Dan buyer in for Doug is again you hear
Doug's traveling today. But when Lebron says something like this,
it doesn't matter to you. But you know that there's
probably fifteen kids that have spent their entire lives cheering
for Lebron James and now he's coming. Like, how does
that make you feel? Like, how do you how do
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the players respond? Have they giving you any discourse on
stuff like that?
Speaker 8 (19:00):
Well, my players have all like texted me or called
me and said, you know, something along the lines basically
of hey, we got your back, and I'm like, don't
worry about like I'm buying. I'm a big boy. But
like my son, like he hopped in the car, He's like, dude,
I love Lebron. What did you say, Lebron? No, I
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said nothing and nothing like Dan those The only thing
I've ever said here recently is if the worst thing
he's done is forced his son's way into the NBA
in twenty years, So that's literally the worst crime he's committed.
He's had a pretty good career, right, Like, he's arguably
one of the one of the best players in the
history of the sport, multi time Olympian, all time league
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scoring the NBA and in comparison to things that others
have done, like he's a relative angel. I don't think
he's done right by his son in trying to He's
done right by his son in terms of trying to
force him into the in the NBA. But other than that,
like all right, now we're just you know, now we're
just picking on dudes like Giannis's brothers are in the league.
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You know, we go back to that stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So different when it's your kid, though, you know, it's
different when it's your.
Speaker 8 (20:11):
Kid, Yeah, of course, yeah, yeah, But like look, if
you don't, you can't I understand that he's If that's
what he's responding to, why is you responding.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
To it now?
Speaker 8 (20:25):
It's so weird. The whole thing is so weird. It's
like somebody told him, Hey, Doug gottlieb is or whatever.
Like I'm not even really sure why, you know, Like
I don't even get it. I honestly, it's kind of
a loser deal, just is. It's like one of those
you don't have more important things going on in your
life on a Monday on an All Star break than
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tweeting about me and our Kings record.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I thought he was sitting on the can on X
scrolling through the for you, because it's not a following thing.
It was an old tweet you had already won a game,
and it came up, and I think that that popped
in and that's that's when he took the opportunity.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
So he was so he was. Is that called trolling?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
What was that called?
Speaker 8 (21:07):
When you're like searching your somebody's name or your own
name and.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I don't think you searched it. I have a feeling
it popped up so that in his algorithm, I think
so like it was in his Why was my?
Speaker 8 (21:20):
Why was green Bay basketball? I mean, that doesn't speak
to doesn't speak to what ultimately is gonna happen here
at Green Bay. I don't know what does.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
I don't know that, Lebron.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I'm just guessing.
Speaker 8 (21:30):
James just tweeting about it on a Monday, that we're
in people's algorithm.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
How about how about I can say I'm not in
his head, but I'm in his algorithm, which is kind
of the same thing. That's Hey, hey, Lebron, I'm in
your algorithm.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Baby.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
You'll have more to say when you're back in your
chair tomorrow. I'm sure congrats on that.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
I just people were people were just so mean. I
don't know. Damn we dam we won. Nothing's gonna nothing's
gonna stop this high.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I know, I know. I said, you have the fifth
longest winning streak in the Horizon League. We said yesterday
Monzi did breaking news because it was during my show
when you won, and yeah, we had the game on
and the whole deal. It was great song.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Yeah, that's very nice.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
I mean, like, look again, my statement is, I don't care.
I really wish. I would love an explanation for why
a four year old with three kids, you know, one's
a professional player on All Star break, is even on Twitter,
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let alone, worried about me crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I just felt bad for your players if they took
any heat, but obviously so, they're.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
Taking plenty of heat. They don't need it. They're fine.
By the way. By the way, all of them just
called me from the gym on the day off.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
All right, let's make it back to back. Yeah, Doug,
we appreciate it. Talk to you, sir. Doug Gottlieb, host
of his own show. Here at The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
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Speaker 2 (23:15):
Doug Gottlieb Show at Fox Sports Radio. Happy President's Day.
She's Monte Belanos. I'm Dan Byer. Let's get right to it.
Joining us on the program right now, spending time with
us on behalf of Verizons Hall of Fame basketball coach
Roy Williams joining us in coach. Thanks so much for
coming on the program. Usually we bring you on, we
(23:37):
talk coops, we do the plug at the end, but
this plug is different than any others. You're teaming up
with Verizon because what you are doing with Western Carolina
is absolutely amazing. You are erasing their debts of more
than twelve million dollars for over sixty five hundred people
in the area that you call home. You're from Asheville,
North Carolina, for those recovering from the devis station that
(24:00):
occurred with Hurricane Helene. You're actually making phone calls telling
people that their debts being erased. First of all, welcome,
but how does it feel to make those sort of
phone calls to basically the area where you're from.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Well, Dan, thank you very much for your comments, and
you'll be sure to tell Doug it's a lot more
fun talking to you than it would have been him.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I won't throw any retirement rumors out. I won't do that.
You don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Yeah, I'm still I'm gonna be retired today, tonight, tomorrow,
and everything. But no, thank you very much for those comments.
And you're exactly right. I mean, Verizon's given that money
to erase debt for sixty five hundred North Carolinians that
were affected by problems, particularly those with a Hurricane Helene.
And I mean it's a good deal for me because
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I believe so much in One of the things they
say is we will always stand by you. And I
think that for us, for me and my family, being
able to do something that might perhaps bring some We're
attention to what Verizon's doing, and perhaps somebody else will
start doing some other things because it was really a
difficult time. And people can see the pictures like I did,
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they can see the show on the Weather Channel like
I did, but until you come and look and see.
We have a home in western North Caroline. We stayed
there during the summertime, very close to where we grew up,
and four days after the start of the hurricane, we
became up and brought some gallance jugs and water to
our little community. We did. There's three ways to get
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to my house. Two of them bought completely in the
other one was one lane. Last week drive to Ashton
and drive on up to Knoxville, Tennessee, and to see
Tennessee play against Missouri. And what the devastation that you
see in the mountains of North Carolina on into Tennessee.
Pictures don't do it justice. And then you see cars
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and trucks down in the middle of the river, still
sitting there, you know, one hundred days later, and the
Interstate forty is gone from Ashville to Knoxville. And so
for me to be involved in touch and actually people
and relieve, giving them some relief on their dead, it's
just it's been a neat morning for me, and it's
given them some more hope. And because I think my
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hope is that other people will see this and get
the feeling that I had, and they'll do even more
of themselves.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Roy Williams joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. I think that it's great. Sometimes
we see these tragedies and then we just move on
with our lives, and there's still devastation that needs to
be dealt with and you're doing a great thing. Let's
talk a little hoops right now. I know year four
for Hubert Davis hasn't been the greatest. You just mentioned
going to check out Miszoo, Tennessee. I saw your thing
(26:42):
with coach k that you did with the North Carolina coaches,
and you kind of joked of you know, it took
me a while to not be a coach. You know,
maybe I jumped up in my seat once or twice.
But now you're a couple of year years removed. Maybe
things aren't going great with the tar Heels right now
on the BAA tournament, do you have conversations with Hubert
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and what do you think about the state of where
the tar Heels are in year four under him?
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Well, it's it has been a tougher year. We've had
so many close games and we've won a couple, but
we've lost some of those games too, And it's they're
in a position right now that we haven't been in
very often. And it's been harder on Coach Davis and
his staff and the players than it has anybody else.
But when I talk to the fans, they act like
it's they're the ones that are hurting. You're not hurting
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anything like the players and the coaches are. But yes,
I do see. Excuse me, I think it's six games left.
I think we're going to have a great last three
weeks of the season. I still think that we're going
to make the tournament. We get into tournament, I think
we can get some things going and do some things
that would make everybody very proud. But coach Hubert Davis
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is fantastic, doing a fantastic job.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
R J.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
Davis was the last player that's that I recruited that's
still on the team. I still have that little feeling
for that, you know, man who's had a great, great career.
And so I'm still in the stands. I've only missed
two home games in four years and don't expect to
miss any of the rest of this season. So at
the end of the season, there'll be two home games
that I've missed in four years, and they're a lot
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harder to watch as a fan. When I was coaching,
I was always thinking about the next possession, next possession,
next possession. I wasn't thinking about the score. Now look
at the score every five seconds to see if it's changed.
So it's much more difficult, But I think we just
need to put a little run together here and if
we do, then I think we'll make the tournament. And
I have faith in our team that we can make
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a run. And we've seen it before last year in
North Carolina State made a great run. There's been one
or two teams every year that really get things going
at the end of the year, and I think we
can be one of those teams.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
One of the things that I I've always wanted to
ask you was Roy Williams joining us here on the
Doug Gottlieb Show. By the way, she's Monti Bolonio, so
I'm dan byer in for Doug today. Was the transition
from you to Hubert because it wasn't Dean Smith to
use Bill Guthritch Matt Doherty and then you end up
taking over and winning the national title in two thousand
(29:06):
and five. But did you learn from anything to handing
the reins over to Hubert from when you took the
job at North Carolina. Was there anything from that transition
that you used in passing your own torch over to Hubert.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Well, I had tremendous faith in Hubert. It still do,
and I think he's the nicest person I've ever known
who is also fiercely competitive, and I think that's a
great combination. I'm extremely happy he's our coach. I mean,
his first year we played for the national championship. His
second year was not a good year. But his third year,
we won the regular season, and that is hard to do.
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It was hard to do when it's fifteen teams, much less.
I think we've got one hundred and six teams in
the league. Now maybe it's just eighteen, but it seems
like we got the nation covered. But so this year
has been a little bit of an up and down year.
But for us, we still have a chance. There's a
lot of teams that are just going to play out
their schedule. We have something to fight for. But to
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answer your question, I had tremendous confidence who still have
coredremendous confidence in Hubert. He knows where I am. I
don't go and knock on his door and say, let's
talk about this on offense of this on defense. I
don't do that. We do talk, we do text back
and forth. But I'm a fan right now, and that's
the way I like it. Right now. If I was
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not going to be a fan. I would have stayed
in coaching. And you know, other people have come up
and asked me if I wanted another job, and I
said no, if I was going to continue working, I
had the best job in the world. So our best
job for Roy Williams, and there's no question. But I
do believe we have a chance. And you know, you
look down their bench, or I looked down their bench
and the last player I recruited as an assistant at
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North Carolina for coach Tin Smith, what's huber Dates and
everybody else on that staff either recruited or helped recruit.
And some of them, like Sean May and Marcus Page,
they played for me. So it's that's my family and
it's not going to change my support.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
For them, all right. Well, then the last one, since
you're now a fan, do you despise Cooper flag Johnny, Okay,
I'm just gonna say he's a duchie. Now that you're
a fan, we'd give you a pass if that was
the case.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
No, don't do I don't do that at all. I
think he's been a great, great player. I enjoy watching
him play. I would really like to see him play
three weeks and now, and this about every shot. You
know he's going to do well. He can have one
terrible game and that'll be fine with me. But he
appears to be a great young man, a great kid.
I'm seventy four friaking years old and called him just
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about anybody a kid, But it appears to be a
great kid who's really gifted and really does some good
things for his team. And you can tell that he
puts in the sweat equity and I love that well absolutely.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
And yesterday on my show, I announced that Cooper Flagg
was born in December of two thousand and six, so
he wasn't even born when you won the first title
at North Carolina. It blew my mind for me in
my late forties. I'm like, oh my goodness, two thousand
and six, crazy crazy, But yeah, I can't best rivalry
in college basketball by far. Before we let you go, coach,
(32:05):
if anyone is listening, if they want to help out,
if they're still struggling from the aftermath of Hurricane Heleen,
what is your message to them today.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
That everybody can help and if you can just help
a little, that is still help. And the people that
I spoke with on the phone this morning, either FaceTime
or just on the phone. They were so appreciative and
they need help. And there's so many other people. There's
so many organizations the Red Cross or whatever here in
North Carolina that are really taking as many contributions in
(32:40):
you know, food or clothing or money or whatever, and
it does go to help these people. And if you again,
if you see in person the devastation, it is mind boggling.
And like I say, I watched it on the Weather Channel,
saw all the pictures, but when I see it, it's
still just mind boggling. And where I used to be
a high school coach, Swan and nohen Black Mountain area,
(33:02):
so many things are gone. And so that's that's what's
really heartbreaking, and that needs that people have lost homes
and loved ones.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Well, coach, you'd like to thank you and Verizon for
teaming up to wipe out the ten million dollar debt
for those thousands of people that are still vulnerable from
Hurricane Helene. You're calling families today. I hope no one's
hanging up on you thinking it's a prank call, because
that's pretty awesome. But thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
They've been very good. Thank you very much, Stan, and
you have a great day too.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Roy Williams, Hall of Fame coach, Tar Heels, Jayhawks, the
whole shebang joining us here. Kid is the Doug Gottlieb Show,
Life onthetirerec dot Com Studios, All Star.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Weekends, All Star Weekend. It's also I think today Michael
Jordan's birthday. It's also my friend Natalie's birthday. I always
remember it like that.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
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Speaker 2 (34:09):
I mean, is the lone takeaway from All Star Weekend
that Lebron didn't play?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
No, Okay, but that's a big part of it. But no,
because it was so bad. The product itself was so bad.
Like I thought I was gonna watch basketball. I didn't
think I was gonna watch Kevin Hart and then a
little bit of basketball, like and I don't even dislike
Kevin Hart. He I know a lot of people do
not like him, find him a little bit of annoying
because it's the same stuff every time. But I just
(34:34):
was unaware that I was watching a Kevin Hart show
with a little bit of basketball in it. There was
how much basketball? Maybe thirty minutes and I was sitting
there for three and a half hours.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Breaks, Yeah, get out of my face.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Why the whole thing was bad?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
They even interrupted the championship game to honor the TNT crew.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Exactly, and I was like, why are we honor? Aren't
they back together? Aren't they I'm still doing this next year.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I actually didn't think it was I didn't hate the
play like you did.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
But I if I'm tuning in to watch the All
Star Game, I want to watch the game. I want
to watch the players play. I don't care about Kevin Hart.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
Shake Gil.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Just Alexander was not having it when Kevin Hart was
trying to make fun of him. That made no sense.
I just that's not why we tune in to watch
the NBA All Star Game. If you wanted to add
those antics, maybe to the Dunk Contest, the Skills contest,
and have Kevin Hart out there making jokes. Maybe, but
this is not This is not why I tuned in.
(35:36):
I had hopes. Why I don't know that I had hopes.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I want to bring Jason in on this, Jason, because
I have a thought and I just know where he's at,
and I'm curious on your thoughts as well. Jason Stewart's
our executive producer. To Manti's point, there was a point
where Kevin Hart was introduced like he was an all star, yes,
like he was actually one of the players. He came
from the tunnel, they had graphics and he was there
(36:01):
the whole time.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
And then he got on award like a participation.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Trophy, which was funny because it was small. It is
the same joke over and over. Yes, no, No, Jason
loves to talk politics, and not that I'm going to
make this a politics conversation, but I feel that there
were people turned off in the Fall because of the
number of celebrities that were being brought out by Democrats,
(36:26):
and I feel that that's what this is as well,
Like how many different things are you trying to bring
out to to to fool us and I don't want
to use fooling in the politics sort of way, but
it's just of like, okay, enough already, you don't understand
what my needs are. Bringing out another celebrity doesn't do
anything for me. I actually felt there was a little
(36:47):
bit of a parallel with that to Manti's point of
here we're bringing out why are we bringing out Kevin
Hart to spice up the NBA All Star Game or
why is why is it needed that Caitlin Clark's got
to come out from the outside. Do you find any
parallels to that?
Speaker 5 (37:01):
I hadn't until you just said it. So let me
just so I'm tracking this right. So instead of delivering
the lacking substance, they're delivering these shiny objects, yes, distract
people from the lack of substance. Correct, Yeah, I think
that's a great parallel.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
I wanted to watch the game, and you know what,
the little bit of game we did get, there were
some fun moments, there were there was a little bit
of defense, there was some block shots. But again, in
a three and a half hour broadcast, I think I
watched thirty minutes of an.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
NBA game, with some of that being from rising stars
who weren't all stars.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Who weren't All stars who weren't And I.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Had no problem with that.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Trying a little bit more, I have a problem with it,
but that's a separate conversation.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Now they shouldn't be there. I agree they should not
have been there, But that, to me wasn't the biggest
problem in the product that you provided me. You know
what I'm saying, Like it was just so much. I
just was like, what are we doing? Like we are
you realize that you have nothing, so you threw all
of this crap at us, and now I'm just like,
just cancel it all. Just cancel it, bring it back
(38:05):
in five years and make us miss it, because that
was so bad. That was worse than anything. Bring back,
I tweeted it. I take it all back, Bring back
the high scoring, no defense, bring that game back.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I would have rather. We actually thought last year's was better.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
No stoppages, no stoppages, no crap all around, all this fluff.
Like I'm just like, you know, don't spit in my
face and tell me a training that's not the All
Star game. That was not an All Star game. That
was some sort of almost like a like an awards
show where You're like, what.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Was the point of this?
Speaker 3 (38:34):
You know, like when I watched when I watched the Oscars,
I'm like, why am I watching those?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
That was a pointless I the o little drama that
I felt was who was going to hit the shot
for the shack team, if it was going to be
Dame Lillard or Steph Curry. And then they kept taking
threes when you can get you could get two, two's
easiest pie. And so that's what annoyed me is they
wanted to make it a three from twenty eight feet
(38:59):
that ended it. And then slowly, and this was in
the Rising Stars matchup, slowly the Rising Stars started to
come back and I'm like, wait, I don't want to
watch another fifteen minutes of these guys play. You better
end the game. Than finally Durant had a donk and
then they did end on a big shot. But for
a while they were just putts it around.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
If you will yes, And then when you said the shot,
I thought, I was like, yeah, like when mister Beast
came out and you were like, what is this guy
doing here? Like happy for the kid who won one
hundred thousand dollars by all means, but.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
What I was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Why is mister Beast out here with it?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Just I actually liked that part. I thought it was
I thought it was unique. I do think that Dame
gained the system. I think he purposely missed shots, hope,
so because of a guy. Yeah, and then it went
on too long. Yeah, and so they were about to
wrap up. He's like these going to commercial guard seconds.
You got to do this, and the kid MJ's over
Elo from thirty seven feet and banks it in like
(39:56):
it crazy, but I did. I did find that great.
But to the that shouldn't save the All Star Game.
We should be tuning in the TNT to see if
a kid wins on hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
And if you tune in to put on the All
Star Game, let's say you haven't been watching it, you
and you see mister Beast. If I'm again, if I
am tuning in to watch the best players in the
NBA play and I haven't been watching, I tune in
and there's mister Beast, I would be like, click next.
I guess I'm not watching the All Stars. That's not
what I'm tuning in for.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
It was neat when he hit the shot.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
I was that good for him.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
I was so happy for the kid because he was.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Near the buzzer. And by the way, they didn't go
to commercial thirty seconds later. They ended up just like
going on. But I agree with your point. The fishing
gear was was funny in theory when you write it
on paper and you say we're gonna give the TNT
guys their fishing gear because they send everybody else out
on fishing gear.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Sure that it wasn't that in the middle like again,
it was.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
It was not only in the middle. There wasn't even
like a halftime. It was it was during the game
when it was like eleven to one, right, it's really weird,
and then it went on for way longer. You're right,
there were way too many stoppages. I was not opposed
to the play that we saw. There were a lot
of easy baskets. But again it does effected. Yeah, like
(41:14):
those sorts of things are expected. The different of how
different it was in something to play for and at
the end you're trying to make them win. That's what
the whole deal was. In the fourth quarter back in
the day of all right, they can mess around for
three quarters, but in the fourth quarter, let's try to win.
So now the NBA is trying to figure out a way, Well,
what about if we have three different scenarios where you've
(41:36):
got late game situations. It all works on paper, it
doesn't work when it's on the basketball court.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
I really do think it would have been better if
there weren't that many breaks in between. And I get
I get it, you're trying to keep people tuned in,
which is how you broke it up, but put all
of that antics at the end, Like, I don't they
literally were making them. I think Jason Tatum after the
game was like we had to like wait twenty minutes
in between like games or a time out.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
So is it the NBA's problem or is it TNT's
problem for trying to make it a TV show?
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Both both, because you know a lot of people approved it.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
She's Moncey Bologno. So I'm Dan Buyer in for Doug
Gottlieb today, we are with you for the next three
plus hours. We're in for Covino and Rich as well.
Here on Fox Sports Radio. We hope to hear from
Doug Gottlieb. There's gonna be plenty more all star talk.
Kevin Durant had his say, Monzi's even got more to say.
Hit her up at Monci Blagnos. You can find me
(42:30):
at Dan Byer on Fox
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