May 9, 2025 • 45 mins
On a Friday edition of the Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug weighs in on the Draymond Green controversy as the embattled NBA star made an inflammatory comment after the game.
Doug welcomes FSR NBA Insider Marc Stein onto the show to talk about the Knicks, Lakers and all of the other major news around the NBA.
Doug decodes what the Steelers GM said about George Pickens. Doug welcomes former Bucs GM Mark Dominik to talk about the Cowboys, Steelers and all of the major headlines around the NFL.
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It's a beautiful day in Green Bay, Wisconsin. I think
it's beautiful out there in southern California as well, coast
to coast, and we're in the Midwest, the flyover region.
We're with you for the next couple of hours. Plus
we have our podcast, which drop after the show. This
is the DG Show. Mark Dominic joins us twenty five
after the hour, we have our preview of Nick's Celtics
(00:47):
Game three. All right, Mark Stein's gonna join us. We'll
talk to more NBA playoffs. A lot to get to.
Happy Friday, Happy Friday, Happy Friday. The t Wolves beat
the Warriors, and they did a good job for the
most part. There's one run in the third quarter where
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the Warriors got it close, but for the most part,
they kept the Warriors at arms distance, and they tied
the series up at one apiece. No Steph Curry not
expected to play in Game three either, and Draymond Green
gets a technical so he's two texts short of receiving
an automatic one game suspension. And then after the game,
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Draymon well, he went full of Raymond.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It looked like the angry black man. I'm not an
angry black man.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I'm a very successful, educated black man with.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
A great family, and I'm great at basketball. I'm great
at what I do.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
To get the a gender. To try to.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Keep making me look like an angry black man is crazy.
I'm sick of it. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Okay, So they're trying to make him look like an
angry black man. I mean, here's the guy who's led
the NBA in technical fouls, a guy who punched his
own teammate and negatively impacted the trajectory of that version
of the Golden State Warriors. Like this is who Draymond
Green is. And yeah, I don't know how he is?
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He black? Yes? Did he look angry? Sure? Is he?
Then the angry black man? We all know that that's
a different sort of portrayal. And the idea is, you know,
you're making somebody defensive, and then you're like, why are
you being so defensive? Like, well, because I have to
defend myself, and then you crank it up. But Draymond
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turning himself into a victim is Yeah, it's I mean,
that's uh, that's odd to see if that actually passes
anybody's stiff test. Do any of you guys think that
Draymond is the victim in this in this particular situation.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I'm I'm I don't no, not at all.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, it's a weird thing, Dan, And I feel like,
are we giving him oxygen that he doesn't need for
this particular part of the comment?
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Right, I mean, like this show, are you talking about media?
Are you talking about like of giving that oxygen?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I just say, in the whole Angry black Man comment
from this show's perspective, are we giving an oxygen when
like that that's just taking us a field from the
actual play, from the suspension, from the antics, from everything else.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
I think that the comment is absurd, so just in
by itself that it should be left alone. But I
also think that Draymond, I think there's there's some sort
of angle here. Again it's another daring of the of
the referees, of the officials.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I think that that comes into play.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I don't know if he's trying to garner any sort
of you know, empathy, or anything from from a fan
base that may not of otherwise cheerful.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I have no idea. I don't know if he's trying.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
To garner support from the home crowd, trying to think
that he's the one that's being wronged. I think all
of those could be in play. I just don't think
that what he claims is happening is actually happening.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
But no one does, Yeah, no one does. On the
other hand, there's a little bit of I said this
before about about Lebron where we can and others do
this as well, where they copy the Trump idea. If
you don't follow what Lebron is saying, you don't agree
with what he's saying, one, then you're out right, which
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is what Donald Trump has done. This is a little
bit Trumpian as well, where you're like, no, no, I'm
the victim here. Everybody else is wrong me. You put
me in a position to look like something that I'm
not like one, No one brought up the old idea
of an angry black man previously. And secondly, like, yeah,
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I mean the most of the league, the American born
players are black. So if anybody gets angry, technically, if
you want to get down to it, I know that's
not what he means by angry black man, but you'll
look like an angry black man or an angry man
who happens to be black. And then you're the one
who's constantly getting thrown out of games. You're the one
who's constantly getting into a fray because you're the one
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who's constantly you know, hitting guys across the head or
kicking guys in the nuts, like those are the things
that you're doing. And there's just no acceptance of it,
despite the fact that he is right, he is well educated,
does have a good family, none of that, all that
can be true. But this is like an every year
thing with him. Sure, and the part that I've said
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this before, but this is the perfect example of it.
You know, us pointing out that he appears angry, he's
he can label you as a racist. And when you're
labeled a racist, especially when you're not and I know
you are not, and I know I am not. It's like,
what am I supposed to do to prove that I'm
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not a racist? But still point out your bs? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (06:17):
So this is this is the interesting part of it
is I don't think he's talking. I don't know who
he's talking to because I don't know if he's talking
to Like in this case last night, Tony Brothers was
part of the officiating crew, which, by the way, I
feel like Tony Brothers has officiated every single Playoff game
this year, like it. Every time I'm on TV. I
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think I saw Zach Zarbel once, but otherwise I think
I see Tony Brothers every single game. So I don't
know if Draymond is saying not an in a racial
way of white against black, but saying to Tony Brothers,
who is one of the three officials last night.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And for people don't know if Tony Brothers is black, Yes.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
You keep doing this to me and you're the one,
as a black man that's making me look like an
angry black man because.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Every well could be true, but he doesn't. He doesn't specify,
So it's left us feel like, does he point out
the media, Is he talking about the crowd in Minnesota.
Is he talking about the officials? Is he pointing out
the league?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
And I think he's smart enough to know that everyone
will take notice of his comments and react in some way.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Which is what we're doing. Sure, this is the part
about giving an oxygen that I.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Mean, yeah, absolutely, And the officiating like will you will
you react in a way where you will either change
give him more leeway or will you do the opposite?
And I think that he's betting that maybe he will
get more more leeway. He was yelling at some of
and I don't know if he was yelling at Nazrid yesterday,
because there's no doubt that he hit nas Read. There's
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no doubt that he hit Fred van Vliet in Game
seven on Sunday night. Like those on those follow through actions,
those are absolutely deliberate.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
And and it's Draymond one oh one, yes, right, it's
literally Draymond one on one. That's what he does. That's
what he does. So I it's he does so many
things on the basketball floor which are amazing. But there's
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a way and and there is a necessary evil too,
And might say evil, I don't mean like real evil,
but in terms of basketball evil there's a necessary evil
to having a guy who's not afraid to be a
little bit of a cheap shot or not afraid. You
need a couple of guys that are crazy. You can't
have too many, but you need a couple of guys
otherwise you just get punked, You just get pushed around.
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If you have too many nice guys, it doesn't work.
If you have too many guys that are nasty, sometimes
that doesn't work. So he the whole thing works together.
But when you're right on that line of except and
unacceptable behavior, don't be surprised when some people take it
as unacceptable. He just doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.
And I think he's thinking he doesn't get the benefit
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of the doubt, you know, because they're trying to trigger him.
I don't think that's not what it is. It's dude,
you lost the benefit of the doubt years ago when
you were constantly, you know, calling out officials, making a
mockery of them and causing yourself to get technical fouls
and you get you suspended Previously.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
I think he lost the benefit of the doubt in
the twenty sixteen finals. I think that that was the
that was the line with the crotch shot the suspension.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Remember he had a bunch of different kicks into the crotch, Yeah,
that were supposedly inadvertent leading up to that.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
So it's been nine years and now's the time that
he's had enough.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
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Speaker 1 (09:58):
It s Doug Otlib Show, Fox Where's Radio. Mark Stein,
for my entire professional lifetime has been covered the NBA.
He writes the substack called the sideline, and he kind
of suspends some time with this year, right in the
heart of the NBA playoffs, you know, this round of
the playoffs, all the road teams won. The Knicks have
come from behind in both the first two games in Boston.
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Which of these series so far has surprised you the most.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
You have to say, Nick, Celtics, because with Cleveland, Okay,
there is an injury component in that series. However, the
Calves were up by seven with inside fifty seconds left
in Game two without three of their top seven or
eight guys and still lost. So to me, we have
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a seven point lead with forty eight seconds to go
and you don't close. You can't really bring up the
injuries at that point, if you were good enough to
get a seven point lead, you have to finish a
three possession game there. But look the Knicks coming back twice,
the Celtics looking so shaky and nervy. I mean, they
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just won the championship, Like, why are you guys looking
fragile now? So you know, I think there are still
plenty of twists and turns in that theory. I don't
think the Knicks are sweeping the Celtics and Boston is
too good. But for the Knicks to be able to else,
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to be able to win two games in Boston, that
that that is pretty high on the surprise meter.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I would I would agree, especially when you're up twenty,
when you when you're when you're up twenty.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Well you look, you've coached many more high level games
than me. What did you think even just we haven't
even tooked. I mean the thunder in Game one, fouling
intentionally when Denver had no timeout and Yokich is at
the table, I mean, like you intentionally foul and put
Yolkic back in the game and they ended up losing
Game one. I mean, second Round has been a circus
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and a fun circus. I mean there's been surprises everywhere
you look.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Let me let me play for you something that Lebron
James said. So Lebron's now talking on his podcast about
the end of their season. This is Lebron when he
talked about the matchup of Minnesota.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
I've had all those emotions, you know, to the point
where it's like, you know, we entered a season well,
but like you said, you know, when it comes to
the postseason man matchups, sometimes it doesn't determine how.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Well of a regular season you had. You know, it's
the matchups.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
And we ran into a damn good matchup, a team
that's been battle tested, a team that's hungry, a teina
that a lot of a lot of youth but also
experienced at the same time, and another team that's trying
to make the next step. And you know, they were
a worthy opponent, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
So there was this weird like, hey, it was just
a bad matchup. So look they've lost, and I actually
agree with him. I actually think it was a bad matchup.
A bunch of my NBA friends said the same. But
they lose in first it's the ah, my knee, My
knee couldn't have gone anyway, right then he's asked about
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their future with the Lakers, and he's like, you gotta
ask Luke about that one. But hey, last time anybody
said what they need to add was Anthony Davis. He's gone.
Then when he's asked about the series. Now there's just
a bad matchup. Sometimes just a bad matchup. Let's your
read on what's going on with Lebron post playoffs.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Yeah, Look, I was actually in the room for the
Anthony Davis comment and it was funny, but like you know,
I think Lebron could have safely said something there and
said so without worry without worrying about being traded. I
don't think Lebron is going.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
To be traded.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
So it was a funny line. Everybody in their laugh.
But look the comment you referenced that he gave to ESPN,
and I thought, was, you know, a pretty strong comment
from Lebron, and I think he does be the situation.
This is Luka Doncic's team. Now, Luka Doncic is the
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future of the Lakers, and look, it's the Lakers, so
expectations are always going to be ridiculously sky high. I
thought they had a puncher's chance. I think we discussed
that before. I thought they had a puncher's chance to
make some noise and win a round or two because
Luca Lebron and reeves as a playmaking trio. Having three
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guys who can have a moment and beat them and
you know, really cause trouble for the opposing defense, I
thought they could be a handful. But look, Minnesota is
very underrated. Minnesota is a very good team. The Wolves
went seventeen and four to finish the season and all
that got them was six. They had to go seventeen
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and four just to get out of the plane. The
West was so deep, you know, Memphis finished eighth, was
forty eight wins. So I think the other thing about
Minnesota is they're a top ten They were a top
ten team both offensively and defensively this season that nobody
talks about. The only other teams that were top ten
in both categories were the three sixty win teams. So
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I do think Minnesota is very good and underrated. And
Rueyo Gobert turned into Moses Malone in Game five. But
that comments that really stuck out to me is Lebron
saying Lebron basically publicly acknowledging that the Luca trade was
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made for the future. I think it shows he clearly
understands this. You know, the Lakers with when it was
Lebron and Ad. If those two guys played at their
peak and their max, the Lakers could be a playoff problem.
But I mean, Lebron is in year twenty two and
Ad is in his thirties. Now the Lakers have a
future they didn't have when they woke up on February first.
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I mean, they have a long term runway now because
lucas there, they've got to put a team around him.
The team that they have does not compliment him.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
And you know, he needs.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
A rim running center for starters, and they don't. You know,
they didn't have big men that they were even willing
to put in the game in Game four, in Game five,
So the roster is a long way from being tailored
to Luca's specifications. But Lebron sees it and admitted it
to ESPN that this team is now going to be
built around Luca. And you know, I think I think
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that was the answer that I really focused on.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It has to feel a little bit better around Dallas
considering how that thing ended, right, I mean, with and
and even JJ Reddick talking about, hey, you know, we
got to get into championship shape. I mean, that was
a direct shot across the bow to Luca, was it not.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
I mean I think, yeah, you could probably take it
that way. But the day after that press conference, JJ
Reddick and Rob Polinka were meeting with Luka Doncic and
his chief brand officer and business manager Laura Beth Seeger,
and they were, you know, taught by the La paparazzi
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leaving Craigs in West Hollywood, and they were having a
strategy meeting. So I think that kind of illustrates for
you the level of collaboration that team Luca already has
with his new team. I mean, the Lakers are doing
everything they can to make Luca feel welcome, like it
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obviously was not the case for the last several months
in Dallas. And Okay, you know, a Lakers first round exit, Yes,
that does you know, I guess that does cool the
heat down on the Mavericks to a degree. But I
don't know, man, You know this is you know, I
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live in Dallas. You know, MAVs fans are in my
life every day with the podcast I do for the
All City Network. On DLS, and you know, the MAVs
are in the lottery and have a one one point
eight percent shot at Cooper Flag and are probably coming
away with the eleventh.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Pick or lower.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
So there are so many questions about the Mavericks future.
And again it's not just that Luca was traded, but
it's the return. The return is just not anywhere near
enough for a player of that stature, and the MAVs
have a lot of hard work to do to get
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moving back in the right direction. I mean, they were
in last season's NBA Finals, and right now you can't
even imagine a pass back to the finals for Dallas
because you don't even know when Kyrie Irreen is going
to be able to play next season.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Mark Stine JOININGSU subseat called the Steinleine. You should just
download it and make it part of your weekly reading.
He joins to the Doug Ottleib Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. This one's a hard one for me because
I'm trying to figure out like Draymond goes into the
locker room last night and starts saying, you know, you
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turning me into the angry black Man, And I thought
I thought Dan Byer said it best, like, because he
didn't specify who he's talking about. I think us as
fans were talking about like, wait, what is he playing
the victim? Is he talking about Tony Brothers?
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
What's your thoughts on that reaction from Draymond last night?
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Look, I truly don't have a great hand on it
because I'm not covering that series. I wasn't there. You know,
I've seen a lot of reporters who I'm close with
reporting there was obviously some sort of incident with a
fan last night that the Wolves said today they are
now investigating. So I'm not really sure how that factors in.
But look, I covered the Warriors extensively for the first
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three years of their five straight trips to the finals,
and I was basically embedded with that team. And so
my I am a massive fan of Draymond Greens because
I've been able to witness from close range the kind
of impact he has on winning. And you know, I've
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probably heard, you know, Steve Kerr always gives the speech
about how we can't you know, we wouldn't have banners
with an S without him, And you know, I've probably
heard it, you know, fifty more times than he said it.
Publicly just because again, like he was such a big
part of the four championships that they've already won. So look,
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do do other teams think he gets away with more
than he should? You know, of course there's that sentiment
from teams that have to play against the Warriors, and
you know, look, he's he's put himself in this position
in these playoffs that I mean he's got it, you know,
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between technicals and flagrant fouls. I mean he is, he
is caetering close to suspension territory. So he's got to
figure that out because, I mean, the Warriors are already
in this very difficult position, not even knowing when Stephen
Curry is going to be back. But like the Warriors have,
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you know, they they brought in Jimmy Butler and they
aligned it, so you know, that is their core death Draymond,
Jimmy Butler, They're all contractually on the same timeline because
that is how the Warriors feel about Draymond Green and
how he drives winning.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Steug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, Is there
any argument from your perspective, because part of your job
as the insider is treu us a bit of a Storian,
any argument that Steph is in the stratosphere of Lebron
in terms of all time.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Greats, I mean Steph for me is yeah. I mean
I think I think Steph is a top ten player.
And you know, it's easy to say that, like I
don't have I probably don't have my firmed up, perfectly
buttoned up list in front of me that I could
just reel off the top of my head. But I
feel as though because of not just the championships, the
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way he changed the game, his impact on I mean,
he is literally responsible for changing what we perceive is
a good shot or not, the distances from which he
made shots acceptable. Just I mean, he is to me
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the best shooter we've ever seen. And you know, when
guys like Ray Allen and Reggie Miller say, and I mean,
that really gets your attention. So I mean to me,
you know, again, we probably have to sit here and
go through all the names and argue who's in and
who's out. But if I'm if you're telling me draft
your top ten list, Stephen Curry's going to be in there.
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For me, I think he is that It's not just
it's not just the individual achievements. For me, but it's
like he also just has such when you change, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Is gravitational pull as a human being.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
I always say that about Navitsky too, like Dirk Naviski
to me, he has to be in the top twenty
because he changed the power forward position. And like on
my scorecard, I give bonus points for that, and and
I really feel like Steph change the way that a
shooting and that thing you know is the appoint guard.
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No is he a shooting guard. No, he's Stephan Curry.
He's one of one. But he changed the way the
backcourt operates because of his ridiculous shooting range and how
it bends before.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
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a substack called the Steinline. I encourage you to go
read it. Mark, enjoy the weekend. We hope to talk
to you soon. Thanks for joining us.
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It's Doug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Happy
Friday to you. So what we're gonna know is we're
gonna play for you what they said. They're gonna tell
you what they meant, right, it makes sense, Uh, play
for you what they said and then tell you what
they meant. But by that, I mean, here's O. R.
Connie's the GM of the Pittsburgh Stealers. He explained how
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the George Pickens trade came to be.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
Colon reached out at.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
How to normal data work.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Earlier this week, and you know, they gave us.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
They proposed something first for us to think about. You know,
we had a conversations internally and also has some conversations
with George age to Dave, who I have a put
relationship with, and you know, we we we discuss where
things us have been with George, where they are and
you know where things can go with George and uh uh,
(25:33):
you know this this trade made sense for everyone.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
So made sense for everyone. In other words, he had
a good relationship. It's always important to point out that, hey,
no animus here. We just tried to find him a
better spot for him. But the more you talk about it,
and I'll ask Mark Dominic he's going to join us
upcoming in about five minutes. The more you talk about
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the more you hear about it, the more you realize
that it is as I portrayed it yesterday. Pittsburgh Steelers
they're about their culture. The Dallas Cowboys are about we
just want dudes, just dudes, dudes, dudes. You know, the
better the player, the better the production. When the player's
happy he's producing, then he'll turn into being a great citizen.
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And it's not that George Pickens has any off the
field issues. It's just more getting along with an offensive coordinate,
with a quarterback with a head coach. And he hasn't
liked his time in Pittsburgh. And you know, part of
me doesn't blame him. Right Like, he didn't get to
play with Big Ben. He played with a washout Russell
(26:44):
Wilson and a fairly erratic justin Fields. He was with
you know, he was with Mason Rudolph when they went
to the playoffs, and before that with Kenny Pickett. So
I do understand, like anybody who's been successful out of
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place has had a time when they work with people
are like, yeah, I don't know, this guy's not good
enough for what we're doing. I've worked at ESPN, CBS,
Fox Now coaching college basketball. Like you don't think that.
You look around and there are people that are promoted
above their level of competency, of course, but allowing that
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to come out for the world to see, especially when
you're in Pittsburgh, a place where the culture is super important,
it just doesn't work. So when you hear Omar Conny's like, yeah,
they reached out to us this week and were they
reached out to what the translation is, everyone knows he's
on the market. Cowboys reach out after the dust settled
(27:51):
with the draft. We couldn't move him during the draft,
so his value is low, and yeah, we call the agent,
were like, great, let's get rid of him. That's what
it feels like to me. Awesome, Oh you want trade
for George, Well you're gonna have to give us, so okay, sure,
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because in addition to George Pickens kind of be in
the pain that took us right and complaining about touches
in et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. At some point,
George Prickens is gonna have to get a contract extension.
The Pittsburgh shrear is like, yeah, we're that. We're not
doing we're not paying the fifth year option, and we're
not doing the contract extension. You guys do that, and
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the price for getting rid of that amount of money
or that amount of future contract is you give up
him in the sixth for the third to fifth. That's
what I heard in it. I don't know what you
heard of it. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on
Fox Sports Radio, and he joins us every week and
he just gives us unbelievable insight. He's Mark Dominic. He
joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark, Let's start
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with what I think undoubtedly is the story of the week.
Sah Pickens is traded. It's a post draft trade of
a former first round pick wide receiver. It's George Pickens
and a sixth for a third to fifth next year,
going back from Dallas to Pittsburgh. What what what's your
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immediate reaction to this trade?
Speaker 9 (29:18):
Yeah, I mean my immediate reaction is Pittsburgh has been
consistently correct in releasing receivers when they feel like it's
not a fit for what they want to be fundamentally.
And that's knowing Mike Tomlin, having worked with Mike Tomlin.
You go back to Antonio Brown, you can think of
Chase Claypool, and you can think of Deontay Johnson, you could.
The look goes on and on, and now George Pickens
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sadly falls in that same bucket.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
It feels to me like this is a move, a
culture move for Pittsburgh and Dallas going after talent which
honestly tracks with both teams, both franchises. Is that is
that a fair representation of what looks like to the league?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
I think so.
Speaker 9 (30:01):
I mean, I think obviously Mike knows what he wants
that locker room. I've been around Mike for years as
an assistant coach and certainly kept in touch with him
as the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, saying, you know,
you know that one thing that's unique is, you know,
George Pickens was kind of known this way prior to
coming into school. You know, Chase Claypool had a little
bit of like I'm not so sure, but the Steelers
took them, but then they realized it was not what
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they're looking for. I agree with you also, I think Dallas,
you know, went through the draft and knows that they
have to do something on the other side of ceedee Land,
And I think that they're going to try to see
if they can manage pickens first season, to see what
it goes like. And this is a chance for Pickens
uh to kind of hopefully put his heels in the
ground and understand how quick things can change in the
Nation FOOTBA League, how fast you could be enter out
a Chase Claypool. And if I'm Dallas, I'm encouraged because
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they didn't.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Give up a lot.
Speaker 9 (30:48):
And if I'm Pittsburgh, I know that to your point,
I've got DK metcalf is really my number one, and
I still think the quarterback thing will get resolved there
before we get to the regular season.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Stug Gottlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, you
said the quarterback thing will get resolved for the start
of the season. Do you think it's going to be
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 9 (31:07):
Well, I mean that's said all along. It's been interesting
that Aaron hasn't said anything in the way that Pittsburgh
reacted to the draft. I got to think Aaron Rodgers
is one A and then Kirk Cousins is one B.
I just feel like that's the way they're looking at it.
I can't I can't imagine they can say what they
want in terms of feeling really good about the organization
and what's going on internally, you know, with you know,
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a team that you know obviously got Baltimore and Sannion's division.
I like me through Rudolph, you know, and I know
these draft Will Howard, but I feel like there's just
it's hard for me to imagine them going the season
with those two quarterbacks knowing what's going to attack you
from you know, Baltimore and Stani's respectively, in their own company,
in their own division. So I think they're going to
do something. I'm still leaning towards Aaron. It doesn't cost
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you anything from the a draft flateral standpoint, But if
they make a move for Kirk Cousins, that kind of
tells that Aaron Rodgers just doesn't want to tell anybody.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Else he's quitting or he's done with football. But I
think parent still't.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, I'm with you, I think that's I think you nailed.
I think that's exactly what's what's going to take place.
It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark
dominic Y is our guest, of course, former jail manager
of the Tap Bay Buccaneers. What does this do for
the Cowboys?
Speaker 9 (32:20):
Yeah, I think it really helps him. I think you know,
it gives Dak Pruscott another guy that certainly has a
tremendous because we all know, a tremendous ball awareness ball skills.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
You know, there's two different things.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
There, Doug as I'm sure you know, but you know,
when we scouts talk about a guy having ball awareness
versus ball skills, it's two different things. Number One, awareness
is like understanding where the ball is going to be
or where it ends up. The ball skills means you
have that, but you also know how to make the
play on the ball, so you're going to make the interception.
Alack Kirby Joseph last year with the Detroit Lions and
his interceptions. You know, George Pickens has, you know, ball skills.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
He is so elite in terms of being able to.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
Track the ball, adjust his body and has the big
catching radius that this really helped him because they really
don't have an other person opposite of CD Lamb or
somebody to take a little bit heat up with Jake
Ferguson or what they're.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Going to want to do on the backfield.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
I think it's a big move for Dallas, and again
I think the risky ward is worth it for Dallas
based off of that.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I know that Jerry.
Speaker 9 (33:14):
Jones wants to win.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
They don't want to win.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
But Jerry knows that clock is ticking in his eternal
life and he wants to do anything he can to
make sure that the team has a chance.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
To get all the way. So he's going to willing
to take the shot.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Mark Tomicker is our guests here on the Doug Gotlips
Show on Fox. For sure, there's a video circulating out
there that the Rams clearly wanted out right, Sean McVay
kind of introducing DeVante Adams to the rest of the team,
and in it he's a fused to his praise of
Devanta Adams. But what are the legit legitimate expectations Davante
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at this point in his career.
Speaker 9 (33:51):
Well, I think you know this is it's Kouka Kost team.
I think I think when you look at what they're
going to ask him to do. I think he's going
to be more of a move to change and get
first down because he knows he's going to do the
right thing at the right spot and run the right
a right route for DeVante Adams.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Where this this offense is going to run through Pooka.
Speaker 9 (34:07):
I think Puka is going to be the guy who
still catches one hundred balls and plus, where DeVante is
going to be more in that sixty to eighty range.
But Davante's may be the third and five and we've
got to have it. You know, it might be other plays,
but I think that pukn and Cool brings a bigger
explosion plays that I think that they're desperately looking for.
And I think that's why they drafted Terrence Ferguson, because
they feel like they need to find different ways to
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get this offense going as fast as possible to be
you know, Matt Stafford to have his you know, Swan
song two here in the next year or two. Whatever
it is Matt Stafford. But I think Devanta is going
to play a good role. But I do think it's
going to be more of that sixty to eighty catch
where I think that Puka is the hunter catch guy
in that aust for sure.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I tend to agree with you. And the question is
can DeVante handle be in that sixty catch guy? That
That's that's kind of the question, right, It's like that,
It's like that, can Cam Newton be a backup? No? Right?
You know it's those guys are not necessarily wired for
that sort of that that sort of thing. And now
that we've had a chance to catch our breath, when
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you combine draft and free agency acquisitions as well as
the guys they kept, who's off season do you like?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Yeah? You know, I think that there's a lot of
different things out there when you kind of look through it.
Speaker 9 (35:22):
You know, it's hard for me not to like what
Baltimore has done in terms of, you know, getting they
didn't do a lot in free agency, to understand that
they didn't lose a.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Lot in free agency. I guess I'd start with the
Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 9 (35:36):
I love what they did this offseason, meaning the Mountain
Extent worth six hundred million dollars on their own players
and it's still added Joey Bosa. You bring in a
Josh Palmer, who I think both have you know ability,
And I like Maxell Harrison for their first time draft
or as to think is a really good player.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
And I think p J.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
Sanders are going to be an impact tack to them
on the defensive line as a rotation player.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
So I love what Buffalo did. As close as they are,
it feels like they moved themselves. It's a little bit.
Speaker 9 (36:00):
Maybe tiger to the to the end line, and that's
a great one. And then I think one thing I'd
liked about the Green Bay Packers on the the A
the NFC because I liked how pointed they weren't cree
They way said, look, we're gonna get.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
A starting guard.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
We're going to get Aaron Bank, We're gonna get a
starting corner, we're gonna get Date Hops. And then they
said they've been saying it's the quarterback, said it. We
won a number one. And so when Matthew Golden's on
the board, they draft Matthew Golden and then they go
solidify their offensive line, take a couple of receivers, and
you know, they feel like they're a complete unit. And
so I do like when Green Bay did because I
think it.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Was so calculated. It's not like that. It made me
very impressed.
Speaker 9 (36:36):
It's hard not to give the Bears a very, you know,
solid off season. We're going to find out for a
very great off season. We're gonna find out who Callable
and Julie is. Because their offensive interior offensive line that
with Dolman, Dooey and Jackson, it's really great.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
I love the Colston Lovelin pick. I love it. I
think they that's great. If Luther Burden is not a
problem off the.
Speaker 9 (36:56):
Field, he's going to be a very big impact player.
And then you got Eddie JARED'SI you know who's going
to be still I think he still has it from
Marturner of the draft pick. So I love what the
Bears did. We're going to find out who Caleb Willing really.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Is this year, Doug.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I don't think there's any doubt we're going to find
out exactly who he is. Mark Domins our guest here
the dou Gotlib Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, who's
off season again? Free agency? Draft? All told les just
scratching your head?
Speaker 9 (37:24):
Well, I still I don't feel like the Carolina Panthers
took a big step this year. I think your offensive
line is still a big problem. I don't feel like
they've got explosive players on the offensive side of the ball.
I know they took McMillan and they had took figgers
like that last year. But Cuba Hubbard, I think is
a good back. Tommy Tremble is an average type end right,
and so Adam.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Feeling is getting fairly old.
Speaker 9 (37:47):
So I just in the offensive line is not something
but I love to write home about. So I don't
feel like the Carolina Panthers being where they were made
up a lot of ground and where I think they
would be in terms of the of the AFC. You know,
for me, it's kind of hard to look at the
Cleveland Browns and feel good about what they've been doing.
I know that the trade was good in terms of
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getting next year's number one, but I just feel like
Cleveland is interrupt in a back spot, and I know
the quarterback situation put him there, but I just don't
feel like Cleveland's in a position to be as competitive
as I thought they would be, or I hope they
would be this year. So I didn't love Cleveland's offseason.
We'll see what the team looks like this year. But again,
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Baltimore and Cincinnati are a levels ahead where Cleveland and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Are right yep, I agree with you. And you know
it's interesting you point out Cincinnati right, touch it up
and down here. What about their defense? What have they
done to fix that unit?
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Well?
Speaker 9 (38:45):
I think part of it was, you know, getting our
golden in there to run the defense. And I think
that's something that certainly Zach Taylor a felt to be
very important.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
To make that change.
Speaker 9 (38:53):
I think defensively, one of the things that really hit
them last year were injuries at the quarterback position, whether
it was DJ Turner went down to a lot back
hill down. You know, their cornerback room got decimated. Camp
Taylor Britt went through you like a rollercoaster in terms
of his consistency. I think they kind of told you
that they know they needed a little more work with
Jamar Stewarts at first rounder and the Knight in the
second round kind of spoke to you that they still
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know they need to work on next front seven. But
I think that they're a lot better off. I think
that they're you know, if they get Trey Henderson and
everything settled down, I think the defense is good enough
to be able to score point and that the offense
continued to you know, cook the way it has been
over the last couple of years. So I like what
they did. It wasn't outstanding, you know, they kind of
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like normal sinceni.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
They didn't get crazy in the free agency.
Speaker 9 (39:38):
But they certainly I think, got themselves in the spot
where I think defensively under alcohol and they're going to get.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Shape, you know out if we saw this, read this,
did Jim Harbass that he woke up and he realized
he has to get he has to get Justin Herbert
into the Hall of Fame, Like, look, let's just win
a playoff game. First. I thought Herbie had a great
year with the limited re resources. Does he have the
resources at his disposal next year to have an even
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better year?
Speaker 9 (40:07):
I think so, you know, I think, you know, with
Hampton's who I love. I think he's worthy of being
a first round pick draft pick to running back out
of Norse line. I absolutely think he's the first round
draft shots. And I think that that's kind of the
thing that they really needed, is who's the guy I
can turn the balls over to if I want to
run it twenty two times? And I know they have
Nijer Harris there, but we all know Niger is a
good background. I think Hampton has a chance to be
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more special and I think that's a big piece of it.
And I think, you know, we'll see if Bacton can
do a guard. But the offensive line together as a
unit is really good. Trey Harris, I think will help
them at a receiving spot along with the Mike LANs
and certainly Lad mcconfie is going to continue I think explosive.
I think they have given him more weapons around it.
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I think that's going to help them a lot. I
still think the tight end position, even though I love
Tyler Conklin and what he is, the one that's the
one spot where I wish they had something a little
more dynamic. We'll see it, gads who can look like
that's the only spot right to day for Justin Herbert,
I wish they had something more dynamic there.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Fair enough. Mark Dominick, he's our guest on a weekly basis.
He's former general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He's
one of the best in the absolute in the business. Mark,
thanks so much for joining us. Have a great weekend
and we appreciate you joining us. On Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Thanks so you two, buddy, all.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Right, Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. I
will say this, Dan, you know it's interesting. I was
looking at kind of the sports calendar, right and tonight
we got some NBA playoff games back in. We'll talk
next hour a bunch about Celtics Nixus that moves to
Madison Square Garden. But you know, you guys do know
that Memorial Day is like not the last weekend in May.
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I guess it's the last full weekend in May. So
it's we're two weeks away from Memorial Day weekend, right
you guys? Y? Yep, Indy five hundred is Memorial Day weekend.
And when I was a kid, this is like I
do feel like I've got to put my teeth in
and go. When I was your kid, we cared. Can
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anybody name any of the drivers who will be racing
in the Indy five hundred?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I am not familiar, I know.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
And and Dan, I'm not max anyway? Is that is
it max power? Well, don't a lot of F one drivers.
Speaker 10 (42:27):
There is some crossover to the Indy five hundred. Like Takumasato,
he does both.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Uh, it's kind of actually impressive, Sam, that you know that.
I literally And it's interesting because Dan is the most
sports guy of us as sports guys, are we okay
with that?
Speaker 2 (42:44):
I agree?
Speaker 5 (42:45):
I think certain areas, sure, I think there's other ones
where you guys have me beat.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
But yeah, but again in certain areas. But like you know,
you know enough about a lot more than most than
we do, and a far greater depth of knowledge of
hockey because of your football Fantasy Football podcast and once reflects.
I think there's a greater depth of a lot of
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the skill position guys sure than even I had.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
And just so it's it's will power not max power.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Well, like max power would be a goode.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
I looked it up.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
There's a soccer player with the name of Max Power.
Speaker 10 (43:24):
Max Power is a gag from The Simpsons in an episode,
So I confuse there. But like I've you know, Alio Castro, Nevis,
Simon Pagano, Like those are names that I think that
they they just bleed over into US IndyCar racing and
and so I yeah, maybe maybe a couple of those
names you'd find on the roster.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
I do feel like when we were kids, Dan, maybe
I'm wrong we knew. Maybe it was because we knew A. J. Foyt,
we knew some of these guys, but it was a
lot more top mind. Now they still draw incredibly well. Right,
it's still a thing, but it's just not a national
thing that anybody really cares. And now we cover sports
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a lot more than we ever did when we were kids,
but God, nobody cares well.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
I would say that people do care about the Indy
five hundred. I think that there are people that still
have family traditions watching it with their family, even if
they aren't necessarily completely familiar with the drivers. I think
that there are a couple of things in play. You know,
at one point there was the split, But I do
think that NASCAR. NASCAR took a lot of eyes and
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a lot of popularity in the mainstream media for a while.
Now that has waned, so it's not like they've gone anywhere.
But Sam brought up F one. I think that's been
a part of it as well as I think F
one has gotten extremely popular, whether it be because of
the TV series or other reasons. It's quicker watch in
those the races aren't going on for four or five
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hours like there's reasons why maybe an audience drew that way.
But yeah, it's it is not as popular as I
felt like it was maybe twenty or thirt years ago.
There are still people who carry on the tradition, but
not as mainstream. We would always have the Indy five
hundred driver on our network, usually the day after and
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that doesn't even happen anymore.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Yeah, I remember that. I mean I remember like when
I was at one of the other places, it was
the same thing, and slowly but surely it wane. They
were like nobody cares, nobody knows who these people are.
I just I don't know. I thought it's interesting because
that's you know, that was usually signified, hey, summer is here.
And I can remember many a trips as a kid.
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He's like momorw day weekend, like, oh, I know, we're
gonna flip on, flip on the five hundred
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It's a beautiful day in Green Bay, Wisconsin. I think
it's beautiful out there in southern California as well, coast
to coast, and we're in the Midwest, the flyover region.
We're with you for the next couple of hours. Plus
we have our podcast, which drop after the show. This
is the DG Show. Mark Dominic joins us twenty five
after the hour, we have our preview of Nick's Celtics
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Game three. All right, Mark Stein's gonna join us. We'll
talk to more NBA playoffs. A lot to get to.
Happy Friday, Happy Friday, Happy Friday. The t Wolves beat
the Warriors, and they did a good job for the
most part. There's one run in the third quarter where
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the Warriors got it close, but for the most part,
they kept the Warriors at arms distance, and they tied
the series up at one apiece. No Steph Curry not
expected to play in Game three either, and Draymond Green
gets a technical so he's two texts short of receiving
an automatic one game suspension. And then after the game,
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Draymon well, he went full of Raymond.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It looked like the angry black man. I'm not an
angry black man.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I'm a very successful, educated black man with.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
A great family, and I'm great at basketball. I'm great
at what I do.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
To get the a gender. To try to.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Keep making me look like an angry black man is crazy.
I'm sick of it. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Okay, So they're trying to make him look like an
angry black man. I mean, here's the guy who's led
the NBA in technical fouls, a guy who punched his
own teammate and negatively impacted the trajectory of that version
of the Golden State Warriors. Like this is who Draymond
Green is. And yeah, I don't know how he is?
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He black? Yes? Did he look angry? Sure? Is he?
Then the angry black man? We all know that that's
a different sort of portrayal. And the idea is, you know,
you're making somebody defensive, and then you're like, why are
you being so defensive? Like, well, because I have to
defend myself, and then you crank it up. But Draymond
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turning himself into a victim is Yeah, it's I mean,
that's uh, that's odd to see if that actually passes
anybody's stiff test. Do any of you guys think that
Draymond is the victim in this in this particular situation.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I'm I'm I don't no, not at all.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, it's a weird thing, Dan, And I feel like,
are we giving him oxygen that he doesn't need for
this particular part of the comment?
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Right, I mean, like this show, are you talking about media?
Are you talking about like of giving that oxygen?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I just say, in the whole Angry black Man comment
from this show's perspective, are we giving an oxygen when
like that that's just taking us a field from the
actual play, from the suspension, from the antics, from everything else.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
I think that the comment is absurd, so just in
by itself that it should be left alone. But I
also think that Draymond, I think there's there's some sort
of angle here. Again it's another daring of the of
the referees, of the officials.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I think that that comes into play.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I don't know if he's trying to garner any sort
of you know, empathy, or anything from from a fan
base that may not of otherwise cheerful.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I have no idea. I don't know if he's trying.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
To garner support from the home crowd, trying to think
that he's the one that's being wronged. I think all
of those could be in play. I just don't think
that what he claims is happening is actually happening.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
But no one does, Yeah, no one does. On the
other hand, there's a little bit of I said this
before about about Lebron where we can and others do
this as well, where they copy the Trump idea. If
you don't follow what Lebron is saying, you don't agree
with what he's saying, one, then you're out right, which
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is what Donald Trump has done. This is a little
bit Trumpian as well, where you're like, no, no, I'm
the victim here. Everybody else is wrong me. You put
me in a position to look like something that I'm
not like one, No one brought up the old idea
of an angry black man previously. And secondly, like, yeah,
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I mean the most of the league, the American born
players are black. So if anybody gets angry, technically, if
you want to get down to it, I know that's
not what he means by angry black man, but you'll
look like an angry black man or an angry man
who happens to be black. And then you're the one
who's constantly getting thrown out of games. You're the one
who's constantly getting into a fray because you're the one
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who's constantly you know, hitting guys across the head or
kicking guys in the nuts, like those are the things
that you're doing. And there's just no acceptance of it,
despite the fact that he is right, he is well educated,
does have a good family, none of that, all that
can be true. But this is like an every year
thing with him. Sure, and the part that I've said
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this before, but this is the perfect example of it.
You know, us pointing out that he appears angry, he's
he can label you as a racist. And when you're
labeled a racist, especially when you're not and I know
you are not, and I know I am not. It's like,
what am I supposed to do to prove that I'm
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not a racist? But still point out your bs? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (06:17):
So this is this is the interesting part of it
is I don't think he's talking. I don't know who
he's talking to because I don't know if he's talking
to Like in this case last night, Tony Brothers was
part of the officiating crew, which, by the way, I
feel like Tony Brothers has officiated every single Playoff game
this year, like it. Every time I'm on TV. I
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think I saw Zach Zarbel once, but otherwise I think
I see Tony Brothers every single game. So I don't
know if Draymond is saying not an in a racial
way of white against black, but saying to Tony Brothers,
who is one of the three officials last night.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And for people don't know if Tony Brothers is black, Yes.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
You keep doing this to me and you're the one,
as a black man that's making me look like an
angry black man because.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Every well could be true, but he doesn't. He doesn't specify,
So it's left us feel like, does he point out
the media, Is he talking about the crowd in Minnesota.
Is he talking about the officials? Is he pointing out
the league?
Speaker 5 (07:23):
And I think he's smart enough to know that everyone
will take notice of his comments and react in some way.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Which is what we're doing. Sure, this is the part
about giving an oxygen that I.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Mean, yeah, absolutely, And the officiating like will you will
you react in a way where you will either change
give him more leeway or will you do the opposite?
And I think that he's betting that maybe he will
get more more leeway. He was yelling at some of
and I don't know if he was yelling at Nazrid yesterday,
because there's no doubt that he hit nas Read. There's
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no doubt that he hit Fred van Vliet in Game
seven on Sunday night. Like those on those follow through actions,
those are absolutely deliberate.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
And and it's Draymond one oh one, yes, right, it's
literally Draymond one on one. That's what he does. That's
what he does. So I it's he does so many
things on the basketball floor which are amazing. But there's
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a way and and there is a necessary evil too,
And might say evil, I don't mean like real evil,
but in terms of basketball evil there's a necessary evil
to having a guy who's not afraid to be a
little bit of a cheap shot or not afraid. You
need a couple of guys that are crazy. You can't
have too many, but you need a couple of guys
otherwise you just get punked, You just get pushed around.
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If you have too many nice guys, it doesn't work.
If you have too many guys that are nasty, sometimes
that doesn't work. So he the whole thing works together.
But when you're right on that line of except and
unacceptable behavior, don't be surprised when some people take it
as unacceptable. He just doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.
And I think he's thinking he doesn't get the benefit
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of the doubt, you know, because they're trying to trigger him.
I don't think that's not what it is. It's dude,
you lost the benefit of the doubt years ago when
you were constantly, you know, calling out officials, making a
mockery of them and causing yourself to get technical fouls
and you get you suspended Previously.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
I think he lost the benefit of the doubt in
the twenty sixteen finals. I think that that was the
that was the line with the crotch shot the suspension.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Remember he had a bunch of different kicks into the crotch, Yeah,
that were supposedly inadvertent leading up to that.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
So it's been nine years and now's the time that
he's had enough.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
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Speaker 1 (09:58):
It s Doug Otlib Show, Fox Where's Radio. Mark Stein,
for my entire professional lifetime has been covered the NBA.
He writes the substack called the sideline, and he kind
of suspends some time with this year, right in the
heart of the NBA playoffs, you know, this round of
the playoffs, all the road teams won. The Knicks have
come from behind in both the first two games in Boston.
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Which of these series so far has surprised you the most.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
You have to say, Nick, Celtics, because with Cleveland, Okay,
there is an injury component in that series. However, the
Calves were up by seven with inside fifty seconds left
in Game two without three of their top seven or
eight guys and still lost. So to me, we have
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a seven point lead with forty eight seconds to go
and you don't close. You can't really bring up the
injuries at that point, if you were good enough to
get a seven point lead, you have to finish a
three possession game there. But look the Knicks coming back twice,
the Celtics looking so shaky and nervy. I mean, they
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just won the championship, Like, why are you guys looking
fragile now? So you know, I think there are still
plenty of twists and turns in that theory. I don't
think the Knicks are sweeping the Celtics and Boston is
too good. But for the Knicks to be able to else,
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to be able to win two games in Boston, that
that that is pretty high on the surprise meter.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I would I would agree, especially when you're up twenty,
when you when you're when you're up twenty.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Well you look, you've coached many more high level games
than me. What did you think even just we haven't
even tooked. I mean the thunder in Game one, fouling
intentionally when Denver had no timeout and Yokich is at
the table, I mean, like you intentionally foul and put
Yolkic back in the game and they ended up losing
Game one. I mean, second Round has been a circus
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and a fun circus. I mean there's been surprises everywhere
you look.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Let me let me play for you something that Lebron
James said. So Lebron's now talking on his podcast about
the end of their season. This is Lebron when he
talked about the matchup of Minnesota.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
I've had all those emotions, you know, to the point
where it's like, you know, we entered a season well,
but like you said, you know, when it comes to
the postseason man matchups, sometimes it doesn't determine how.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Well of a regular season you had. You know, it's
the matchups.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
And we ran into a damn good matchup, a team
that's been battle tested, a team that's hungry, a teina
that a lot of a lot of youth but also
experienced at the same time, and another team that's trying
to make the next step. And you know, they were
a worthy opponent, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
So there was this weird like, hey, it was just
a bad matchup. So look they've lost, and I actually
agree with him. I actually think it was a bad matchup.
A bunch of my NBA friends said the same. But
they lose in first it's the ah, my knee, My
knee couldn't have gone anyway, right then he's asked about
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their future with the Lakers, and he's like, you gotta
ask Luke about that one. But hey, last time anybody
said what they need to add was Anthony Davis. He's gone.
Then when he's asked about the series. Now there's just
a bad matchup. Sometimes just a bad matchup. Let's your
read on what's going on with Lebron post playoffs.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Yeah, Look, I was actually in the room for the
Anthony Davis comment and it was funny, but like you know,
I think Lebron could have safely said something there and
said so without worry without worrying about being traded. I
don't think Lebron is going.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
To be traded.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
So it was a funny line. Everybody in their laugh.
But look the comment you referenced that he gave to ESPN,
and I thought, was, you know, a pretty strong comment
from Lebron, and I think he does be the situation.
This is Luka Doncic's team. Now, Luka Doncic is the
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future of the Lakers, and look, it's the Lakers, so
expectations are always going to be ridiculously sky high. I
thought they had a puncher's chance. I think we discussed
that before. I thought they had a puncher's chance to
make some noise and win a round or two because
Luca Lebron and reeves as a playmaking trio. Having three
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guys who can have a moment and beat them and
you know, really cause trouble for the opposing defense, I
thought they could be a handful. But look, Minnesota is
very underrated. Minnesota is a very good team. The Wolves
went seventeen and four to finish the season and all
that got them was six. They had to go seventeen
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and four just to get out of the plane. The
West was so deep, you know, Memphis finished eighth, was
forty eight wins. So I think the other thing about
Minnesota is they're a top ten They were a top
ten team both offensively and defensively this season that nobody
talks about. The only other teams that were top ten
in both categories were the three sixty win teams. So
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I do think Minnesota is very good and underrated. And
Rueyo Gobert turned into Moses Malone in Game five. But
that comments that really stuck out to me is Lebron
saying Lebron basically publicly acknowledging that the Luca trade was
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made for the future. I think it shows he clearly
understands this. You know, the Lakers with when it was
Lebron and Ad. If those two guys played at their
peak and their max, the Lakers could be a playoff problem.
But I mean, Lebron is in year twenty two and
Ad is in his thirties. Now the Lakers have a
future they didn't have when they woke up on February first.
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I mean, they have a long term runway now because
lucas there, they've got to put a team around him.
The team that they have does not compliment him.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
And you know, he needs.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
A rim running center for starters, and they don't. You know,
they didn't have big men that they were even willing
to put in the game in Game four, in Game five,
So the roster is a long way from being tailored
to Luca's specifications. But Lebron sees it and admitted it
to ESPN that this team is now going to be
built around Luca. And you know, I think I think
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that was the answer that I really focused on.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It has to feel a little bit better around Dallas
considering how that thing ended, right, I mean, with and
and even JJ Reddick talking about, hey, you know, we
got to get into championship shape. I mean, that was
a direct shot across the bow to Luca, was it not.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
I mean I think, yeah, you could probably take it
that way. But the day after that press conference, JJ
Reddick and Rob Polinka were meeting with Luka Doncic and
his chief brand officer and business manager Laura Beth Seeger,
and they were, you know, taught by the La paparazzi
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leaving Craigs in West Hollywood, and they were having a
strategy meeting. So I think that kind of illustrates for
you the level of collaboration that team Luca already has
with his new team. I mean, the Lakers are doing
everything they can to make Luca feel welcome, like it
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obviously was not the case for the last several months
in Dallas. And Okay, you know, a Lakers first round exit, Yes,
that does you know, I guess that does cool the
heat down on the Mavericks to a degree. But I
don't know, man, You know this is you know, I
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live in Dallas. You know, MAVs fans are in my
life every day with the podcast I do for the
All City Network. On DLS, and you know, the MAVs
are in the lottery and have a one one point
eight percent shot at Cooper Flag and are probably coming
away with the eleventh.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Pick or lower.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
So there are so many questions about the Mavericks future.
And again it's not just that Luca was traded, but
it's the return. The return is just not anywhere near
enough for a player of that stature, and the MAVs
have a lot of hard work to do to get
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moving back in the right direction. I mean, they were
in last season's NBA Finals, and right now you can't
even imagine a pass back to the finals for Dallas
because you don't even know when Kyrie Irreen is going
to be able to play next season.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Mark Stine JOININGSU subseat called the Steinleine. You should just
download it and make it part of your weekly reading.
He joins to the Doug Ottleib Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. This one's a hard one for me because
I'm trying to figure out like Draymond goes into the
locker room last night and starts saying, you know, you
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turning me into the angry black Man, And I thought
I thought Dan Byer said it best, like, because he
didn't specify who he's talking about. I think us as
fans were talking about like, wait, what is he playing
the victim? Is he talking about Tony Brothers?
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
What's your thoughts on that reaction from Draymond last night?
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Look, I truly don't have a great hand on it
because I'm not covering that series. I wasn't there. You know,
I've seen a lot of reporters who I'm close with
reporting there was obviously some sort of incident with a
fan last night that the Wolves said today they are
now investigating. So I'm not really sure how that factors in.
But look, I covered the Warriors extensively for the first
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three years of their five straight trips to the finals,
and I was basically embedded with that team. And so
my I am a massive fan of Draymond Greens because
I've been able to witness from close range the kind
of impact he has on winning. And you know, I've
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probably heard, you know, Steve Kerr always gives the speech
about how we can't you know, we wouldn't have banners
with an S without him, And you know, I've probably
heard it, you know, fifty more times than he said it.
Publicly just because again, like he was such a big
part of the four championships that they've already won. So look,
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do do other teams think he gets away with more
than he should? You know, of course there's that sentiment
from teams that have to play against the Warriors, and
you know, look, he's he's put himself in this position
in these playoffs that I mean he's got it, you know,
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between technicals and flagrant fouls. I mean he is, he
is caetering close to suspension territory. So he's got to
figure that out because, I mean, the Warriors are already
in this very difficult position, not even knowing when Stephen
Curry is going to be back. But like the Warriors have,
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you know, they they brought in Jimmy Butler and they
aligned it, so you know, that is their core death Draymond,
Jimmy Butler, They're all contractually on the same timeline because
that is how the Warriors feel about Draymond Green and
how he drives winning.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Steug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, Is there
any argument from your perspective, because part of your job
as the insider is treu us a bit of a Storian,
any argument that Steph is in the stratosphere of Lebron
in terms of all time.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Greats, I mean Steph for me is yeah. I mean
I think I think Steph is a top ten player.
And you know, it's easy to say that, like I
don't have I probably don't have my firmed up, perfectly
buttoned up list in front of me that I could
just reel off the top of my head. But I
feel as though because of not just the championships, the
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way he changed the game, his impact on I mean,
he is literally responsible for changing what we perceive is
a good shot or not, the distances from which he
made shots acceptable. Just I mean, he is to me
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the best shooter we've ever seen. And you know, when
guys like Ray Allen and Reggie Miller say, and I mean,
that really gets your attention. So I mean to me,
you know, again, we probably have to sit here and
go through all the names and argue who's in and
who's out. But if I'm if you're telling me draft
your top ten list, Stephen Curry's going to be in there.
(23:16):
For me, I think he is that It's not just
it's not just the individual achievements. For me, but it's
like he also just has such when you change, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Is gravitational pull as a human being.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
I always say that about Navitsky too, like Dirk Naviski
to me, he has to be in the top twenty
because he changed the power forward position. And like on
my scorecard, I give bonus points for that, and and
I really feel like Steph change the way that a
shooting and that thing you know is the appoint guard.
(23:51):
No is he a shooting guard. No, he's Stephan Curry.
He's one of one. But he changed the way the
backcourt operates because of his ridiculous shooting range and how
it bends before.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
He's Mark Stein, longtime NBA writer and insider. Publish is
a substack called the Steinline. I encourage you to go
read it. Mark, enjoy the weekend. We hope to talk
to you soon. Thanks for joining us.
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It's Doug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Happy
Friday to you. So what we're gonna know is we're
gonna play for you what they said. They're gonna tell
you what they meant, right, it makes sense, Uh, play
for you what they said and then tell you what
they meant. But by that, I mean, here's O. R.
Connie's the GM of the Pittsburgh Stealers. He explained how
(25:02):
the George Pickens trade came to be.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
Colon reached out at.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
How to normal data work.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Earlier this week, and you know, they gave us.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
They proposed something first for us to think about. You know,
we had a conversations internally and also has some conversations
with George age to Dave, who I have a put
relationship with, and you know, we we we discuss where
things us have been with George, where they are and
you know where things can go with George and uh uh,
(25:33):
you know this this trade made sense for everyone.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
So made sense for everyone. In other words, he had
a good relationship. It's always important to point out that, hey,
no animus here. We just tried to find him a
better spot for him. But the more you talk about it,
and I'll ask Mark Dominic he's going to join us
upcoming in about five minutes. The more you talk about
(25:58):
the more you hear about it, the more you realize
that it is as I portrayed it yesterday. Pittsburgh Steelers
they're about their culture. The Dallas Cowboys are about we
just want dudes, just dudes, dudes, dudes. You know, the
better the player, the better the production. When the player's
happy he's producing, then he'll turn into being a great citizen.
(26:22):
And it's not that George Pickens has any off the
field issues. It's just more getting along with an offensive coordinate,
with a quarterback with a head coach. And he hasn't
liked his time in Pittsburgh. And you know, part of
me doesn't blame him. Right Like, he didn't get to
play with Big Ben. He played with a washout Russell
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Wilson and a fairly erratic justin Fields. He was with
you know, he was with Mason Rudolph when they went
to the playoffs, and before that with Kenny Pickett. So
I do understand, like anybody who's been successful out of
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place has had a time when they work with people
are like, yeah, I don't know, this guy's not good
enough for what we're doing. I've worked at ESPN, CBS,
Fox Now coaching college basketball. Like you don't think that.
You look around and there are people that are promoted
above their level of competency, of course, but allowing that
(27:31):
to come out for the world to see, especially when
you're in Pittsburgh, a place where the culture is super important,
it just doesn't work. So when you hear Omar Conny's like, yeah,
they reached out to us this week and were they
reached out to what the translation is, everyone knows he's
on the market. Cowboys reach out after the dust settled
(27:51):
with the draft. We couldn't move him during the draft,
so his value is low, and yeah, we call the agent,
were like, great, let's get rid of him. That's what
it feels like to me. Awesome, Oh you want trade
for George, Well you're gonna have to give us, so okay, sure,
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because in addition to George Pickens kind of be in
the pain that took us right and complaining about touches
in et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. At some point,
George Prickens is gonna have to get a contract extension.
The Pittsburgh shrear is like, yeah, we're that. We're not
doing we're not paying the fifth year option, and we're
not doing the contract extension. You guys do that, and
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the price for getting rid of that amount of money
or that amount of future contract is you give up
him in the sixth for the third to fifth. That's
what I heard in it. I don't know what you
heard of it. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on
Fox Sports Radio, and he joins us every week and
he just gives us unbelievable insight. He's Mark Dominic. He
joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark, Let's start
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with what I think undoubtedly is the story of the week.
Sah Pickens is traded. It's a post draft trade of
a former first round pick wide receiver. It's George Pickens
and a sixth for a third to fifth next year,
going back from Dallas to Pittsburgh. What what what's your
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immediate reaction to this trade?
Speaker 9 (29:18):
Yeah, I mean my immediate reaction is Pittsburgh has been
consistently correct in releasing receivers when they feel like it's
not a fit for what they want to be fundamentally.
And that's knowing Mike Tomlin, having worked with Mike Tomlin.
You go back to Antonio Brown, you can think of
Chase Claypool, and you can think of Deontay Johnson, you could.
The look goes on and on, and now George Pickens
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sadly falls in that same bucket.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
It feels to me like this is a move, a
culture move for Pittsburgh and Dallas going after talent which
honestly tracks with both teams, both franchises. Is that is
that a fair representation of what looks like to the league?
Speaker 4 (30:01):
I think so.
Speaker 9 (30:01):
I mean, I think obviously Mike knows what he wants
that locker room. I've been around Mike for years as
an assistant coach and certainly kept in touch with him
as the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, saying, you know,
you know that one thing that's unique is, you know,
George Pickens was kind of known this way prior to
coming into school. You know, Chase Claypool had a little
bit of like I'm not so sure, but the Steelers
took them, but then they realized it was not what
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they're looking for. I agree with you also, I think Dallas,
you know, went through the draft and knows that they
have to do something on the other side of ceedee Land,
And I think that they're going to try to see
if they can manage pickens first season, to see what
it goes like. And this is a chance for Pickens
uh to kind of hopefully put his heels in the
ground and understand how quick things can change in the
Nation FOOTBA League, how fast you could be enter out
a Chase Claypool. And if I'm Dallas, I'm encouraged because
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they didn't.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Give up a lot.
Speaker 9 (30:48):
And if I'm Pittsburgh, I know that to your point,
I've got DK metcalf is really my number one, and
I still think the quarterback thing will get resolved there
before we get to the regular season.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Stug Gottlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, you
said the quarterback thing will get resolved for the start
of the season. Do you think it's going to be
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 9 (31:07):
Well, I mean that's said all along. It's been interesting
that Aaron hasn't said anything in the way that Pittsburgh
reacted to the draft. I got to think Aaron Rodgers
is one A and then Kirk Cousins is one B.
I just feel like that's the way they're looking at it.
I can't I can't imagine they can say what they
want in terms of feeling really good about the organization
and what's going on internally, you know, with you know,
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a team that you know obviously got Baltimore and Sannion's division.
I like me through Rudolph, you know, and I know
these draft Will Howard, but I feel like there's just
it's hard for me to imagine them going the season
with those two quarterbacks knowing what's going to attack you
from you know, Baltimore and Stani's respectively, in their own company,
in their own division. So I think they're going to
do something. I'm still leaning towards Aaron. It doesn't cost
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you anything from the a draft flateral standpoint, But if
they make a move for Kirk Cousins, that kind of
tells that Aaron Rodgers just doesn't want to tell anybody.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Else he's quitting or he's done with football. But I
think parent still't.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, I'm with you, I think that's I think you nailed.
I think that's exactly what's what's going to take place.
It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark
dominic Y is our guest, of course, former jail manager
of the Tap Bay Buccaneers. What does this do for
the Cowboys?
Speaker 9 (32:20):
Yeah, I think it really helps him. I think you know,
it gives Dak Pruscott another guy that certainly has a
tremendous because we all know, a tremendous ball awareness ball skills.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
You know, there's two different things.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
There, Doug as I'm sure you know, but you know,
when we scouts talk about a guy having ball awareness
versus ball skills, it's two different things. Number One, awareness
is like understanding where the ball is going to be
or where it ends up. The ball skills means you
have that, but you also know how to make the
play on the ball, so you're going to make the interception.
Alack Kirby Joseph last year with the Detroit Lions and
his interceptions. You know, George Pickens has, you know, ball skills.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
He is so elite in terms of being able to.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
Track the ball, adjust his body and has the big
catching radius that this really helped him because they really
don't have an other person opposite of CD Lamb or
somebody to take a little bit heat up with Jake
Ferguson or what they're.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Going to want to do on the backfield.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
I think it's a big move for Dallas, and again
I think the risky ward is worth it for Dallas
based off of that.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I know that Jerry.
Speaker 9 (33:14):
Jones wants to win.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
They don't want to win.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
But Jerry knows that clock is ticking in his eternal
life and he wants to do anything he can to
make sure that the team has a chance.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
To get all the way. So he's going to willing
to take the shot.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Mark Tomicker is our guests here on the Doug Gotlips
Show on Fox. For sure, there's a video circulating out
there that the Rams clearly wanted out right, Sean McVay
kind of introducing DeVante Adams to the rest of the team,
and in it he's a fused to his praise of
Devanta Adams. But what are the legit legitimate expectations Davante
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at this point in his career.
Speaker 9 (33:51):
Well, I think you know this is it's Kouka Kost team.
I think I think when you look at what they're
going to ask him to do. I think he's going
to be more of a move to change and get
first down because he knows he's going to do the
right thing at the right spot and run the right
a right route for DeVante Adams.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Where this this offense is going to run through Pooka.
Speaker 9 (34:07):
I think Puka is going to be the guy who
still catches one hundred balls and plus, where DeVante is
going to be more in that sixty to eighty range.
But Davante's may be the third and five and we've
got to have it. You know, it might be other plays,
but I think that pukn and Cool brings a bigger
explosion plays that I think that they're desperately looking for.
And I think that's why they drafted Terrence Ferguson, because
they feel like they need to find different ways to
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get this offense going as fast as possible to be
you know, Matt Stafford to have his you know, Swan
song two here in the next year or two. Whatever
it is Matt Stafford. But I think Devanta is going
to play a good role. But I do think it's
going to be more of that sixty to eighty catch
where I think that Puka is the hunter catch guy
in that aust for sure.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I tend to agree with you. And the question is
can DeVante handle be in that sixty catch guy? That
That's that's kind of the question, right, It's like that,
It's like that, can Cam Newton be a backup? No? Right?
You know it's those guys are not necessarily wired for
that sort of that that sort of thing. And now
that we've had a chance to catch our breath, when
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you combine draft and free agency acquisitions as well as
the guys they kept, who's off season do you like?
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Yeah? You know, I think that there's a lot of
different things out there when you kind of look through it.
Speaker 9 (35:22):
You know, it's hard for me not to like what
Baltimore has done in terms of, you know, getting they
didn't do a lot in free agency, to understand that
they didn't lose a.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Lot in free agency. I guess I'd start with the
Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 9 (35:36):
I love what they did this offseason, meaning the Mountain
Extent worth six hundred million dollars on their own players
and it's still added Joey Bosa. You bring in a
Josh Palmer, who I think both have you know ability,
And I like Maxell Harrison for their first time draft
or as to think is a really good player.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
And I think p J.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
Sanders are going to be an impact tack to them
on the defensive line as a rotation player.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
So I love what Buffalo did. As close as they are,
it feels like they moved themselves. It's a little bit.
Speaker 9 (36:00):
Maybe tiger to the to the end line, and that's
a great one. And then I think one thing I'd
liked about the Green Bay Packers on the the A
the NFC because I liked how pointed they weren't cree
They way said, look, we're gonna get.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
A starting guard.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
We're going to get Aaron Bank, We're gonna get a
starting corner, we're gonna get Date Hops. And then they
said they've been saying it's the quarterback, said it. We
won a number one. And so when Matthew Golden's on
the board, they draft Matthew Golden and then they go
solidify their offensive line, take a couple of receivers, and
you know, they feel like they're a complete unit. And
so I do like when Green Bay did because I
think it.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Was so calculated. It's not like that. It made me
very impressed.
Speaker 9 (36:36):
It's hard not to give the Bears a very, you know,
solid off season. We're going to find out for a
very great off season. We're gonna find out who Callable
and Julie is. Because their offensive interior offensive line that
with Dolman, Dooey and Jackson, it's really great.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
I love the Colston Lovelin pick. I love it. I
think they that's great. If Luther Burden is not a
problem off the.
Speaker 9 (36:56):
Field, he's going to be a very big impact player.
And then you got Eddie JARED'SI you know who's going
to be still I think he still has it from
Marturner of the draft pick. So I love what the
Bears did. We're going to find out who Caleb Willing really.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Is this year, Doug.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I don't think there's any doubt we're going to find
out exactly who he is. Mark Domins our guest here
the dou Gotlib Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, who's
off season again? Free agency? Draft? All told les just
scratching your head?
Speaker 9 (37:24):
Well, I still I don't feel like the Carolina Panthers
took a big step this year. I think your offensive
line is still a big problem. I don't feel like
they've got explosive players on the offensive side of the ball.
I know they took McMillan and they had took figgers
like that last year. But Cuba Hubbard, I think is
a good back. Tommy Tremble is an average type end right,
and so Adam.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Feeling is getting fairly old.
Speaker 9 (37:47):
So I just in the offensive line is not something
but I love to write home about. So I don't
feel like the Carolina Panthers being where they were made
up a lot of ground and where I think they
would be in terms of the of the AFC. You know,
for me, it's kind of hard to look at the
Cleveland Browns and feel good about what they've been doing.
I know that the trade was good in terms of
(38:08):
getting next year's number one, but I just feel like
Cleveland is interrupt in a back spot, and I know
the quarterback situation put him there, but I just don't
feel like Cleveland's in a position to be as competitive
as I thought they would be, or I hope they
would be this year. So I didn't love Cleveland's offseason.
We'll see what the team looks like this year. But again,
(38:28):
Baltimore and Cincinnati are a levels ahead where Cleveland and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Are right yep, I agree with you. And you know
it's interesting you point out Cincinnati right, touch it up
and down here. What about their defense? What have they
done to fix that unit?
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Well?
Speaker 9 (38:45):
I think part of it was, you know, getting our
golden in there to run the defense. And I think
that's something that certainly Zach Taylor a felt to be
very important.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
To make that change.
Speaker 9 (38:53):
I think defensively, one of the things that really hit
them last year were injuries at the quarterback position, whether
it was DJ Turner went down to a lot back
hill down. You know, their cornerback room got decimated. Camp
Taylor Britt went through you like a rollercoaster in terms
of his consistency. I think they kind of told you
that they know they needed a little more work with
Jamar Stewarts at first rounder and the Knight in the
second round kind of spoke to you that they still
(39:14):
know they need to work on next front seven. But
I think that they're a lot better off. I think
that they're you know, if they get Trey Henderson and
everything settled down, I think the defense is good enough
to be able to score point and that the offense
continued to you know, cook the way it has been
over the last couple of years. So I like what
they did. It wasn't outstanding, you know, they kind of
(39:35):
like normal sinceni.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
They didn't get crazy in the free agency.
Speaker 9 (39:38):
But they certainly I think, got themselves in the spot
where I think defensively under alcohol and they're going to get.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Shape, you know out if we saw this, read this,
did Jim Harbass that he woke up and he realized
he has to get he has to get Justin Herbert
into the Hall of Fame, Like, look, let's just win
a playoff game. First. I thought Herbie had a great
year with the limited re resources. Does he have the
resources at his disposal next year to have an even
(40:04):
better year?
Speaker 9 (40:07):
I think so, you know, I think, you know, with
Hampton's who I love. I think he's worthy of being
a first round pick draft pick to running back out
of Norse line. I absolutely think he's the first round
draft shots. And I think that that's kind of the
thing that they really needed, is who's the guy I
can turn the balls over to if I want to
run it twenty two times? And I know they have
Nijer Harris there, but we all know Niger is a
good background. I think Hampton has a chance to be
(40:28):
more special and I think that's a big piece of it.
And I think, you know, we'll see if Bacton can
do a guard. But the offensive line together as a
unit is really good. Trey Harris, I think will help
them at a receiving spot along with the Mike LANs
and certainly Lad mcconfie is going to continue I think explosive.
I think they have given him more weapons around it.
(40:48):
I think that's going to help them a lot. I
still think the tight end position, even though I love
Tyler Conklin and what he is, the one that's the
one spot where I wish they had something a little
more dynamic. We'll see it, gads who can look like
that's the only spot right to day for Justin Herbert,
I wish they had something more dynamic there.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Fair enough. Mark Dominick, he's our guest on a weekly basis.
He's former general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He's
one of the best in the absolute in the business. Mark,
thanks so much for joining us. Have a great weekend
and we appreciate you joining us. On Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Thanks so you two, buddy, all.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Right, Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. I
will say this, Dan, you know it's interesting. I was
looking at kind of the sports calendar, right and tonight
we got some NBA playoff games back in. We'll talk
next hour a bunch about Celtics Nixus that moves to
Madison Square Garden. But you know, you guys do know
that Memorial Day is like not the last weekend in May.
(41:46):
I guess it's the last full weekend in May. So
it's we're two weeks away from Memorial Day weekend, right
you guys? Y? Yep, Indy five hundred is Memorial Day weekend.
And when I was a kid, this is like I
do feel like I've got to put my teeth in
and go. When I was your kid, we cared. Can
(42:09):
anybody name any of the drivers who will be racing
in the Indy five hundred?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I am not familiar, I know.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
And and Dan, I'm not max anyway? Is that is
it max power? Well, don't a lot of F one drivers.
Speaker 10 (42:27):
There is some crossover to the Indy five hundred. Like Takumasato,
he does both.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Uh, it's kind of actually impressive, Sam, that you know that.
I literally And it's interesting because Dan is the most
sports guy of us as sports guys, are we okay
with that?
Speaker 2 (42:44):
I agree?
Speaker 5 (42:45):
I think certain areas, sure, I think there's other ones
where you guys have me beat.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
But yeah, but again in certain areas. But like you know,
you know enough about a lot more than most than
we do, and a far greater depth of knowledge of
hockey because of your football Fantasy Football podcast and once reflects.
I think there's a greater depth of a lot of
(43:10):
the skill position guys sure than even I had.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
And just so it's it's will power not max power.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Well, like max power would be a goode.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
I looked it up.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
There's a soccer player with the name of Max Power.
Speaker 10 (43:24):
Max Power is a gag from The Simpsons in an episode,
So I confuse there. But like I've you know, Alio Castro, Nevis,
Simon Pagano, Like those are names that I think that
they they just bleed over into US IndyCar racing and
and so I yeah, maybe maybe a couple of those
names you'd find on the roster.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
I do feel like when we were kids, Dan, maybe
I'm wrong we knew. Maybe it was because we knew A. J. Foyt,
we knew some of these guys, but it was a
lot more top mind. Now they still draw incredibly well. Right,
it's still a thing, but it's just not a national
thing that anybody really cares. And now we cover sports
(44:02):
a lot more than we ever did when we were kids,
but God, nobody cares well.
Speaker 5 (44:07):
I would say that people do care about the Indy
five hundred. I think that there are people that still
have family traditions watching it with their family, even if
they aren't necessarily completely familiar with the drivers. I think
that there are a couple of things in play. You know,
at one point there was the split, But I do
think that NASCAR. NASCAR took a lot of eyes and
(44:29):
a lot of popularity in the mainstream media for a while.
Now that has waned, so it's not like they've gone anywhere.
But Sam brought up F one. I think that's been
a part of it as well as I think F
one has gotten extremely popular, whether it be because of
the TV series or other reasons. It's quicker watch in
those the races aren't going on for four or five
(44:49):
hours like there's reasons why maybe an audience drew that way.
But yeah, it's it is not as popular as I
felt like it was maybe twenty or thirt years ago.
There are still people who carry on the tradition, but
not as mainstream. We would always have the Indy five
hundred driver on our network, usually the day after and
(45:11):
that doesn't even happen anymore.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Yeah, I remember that. I mean I remember like when
I was at one of the other places, it was
the same thing, and slowly but surely it wane. They
were like nobody cares, nobody knows who these people are.
I just I don't know. I thought it's interesting because
that's you know, that was usually signified, hey, summer is here.
And I can remember many a trips as a kid.
(45:34):
He's like momorw day weekend, like, oh, I know, we're
gonna flip on, flip on the five hundred
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