THE BEST OF THE DOUG GOTTLIEB SHOW

On a Thursday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug explains what the Oklahoma City Thunder do better than any team in the NBA.   

On this installment of "Don't Call It a Throwback, Thursday", Doug and the crew discuss 2012. 

Doug welcomes former NBA player and current FSR NBA Analyst Olden Polynice onto the show to talk the Thunder and all of the major headlines around the NBA Playoffs.

 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:26):
great day. Long as you're not a Timberwolf fan, you're
probably having a pretty good day. One half of the
NBA Finals is set. We'll see if the other half
is set later on tonight. As The Doug Gottlieb Show
will get you ready for tonight's Game five in New

(00:48):
York City. Our guy Olden Pawny's Op will join us.
He spent fifteen years in the NBA. He's our Fox
Sports Radio NBA analyst Andrew Brands can us next hour.
We also have Don't Call It a Throwback Thursday, and
Caleb Williams talks about something that we talk a lot

(01:08):
about in college coaching, I talked about in the radio,
and he admitted and his new head coach admitted that
it's something he needs to improve upon greatly. You know,
I was thinking about our discussion that we had. Was
it two days ago? I think two days ago? And

(01:28):
Dan Byer's off. I'll actually I think I'm gonna see
Dan this afternoon as he's traveling back to the state
of his birth, to Wisconsin. He's going to be at
Aaron Hills, which is site of the Women's US Open.
It's already kind of gotten away today. We'll get updates
from Anci upcoming. But you know, Dan talked about how

(01:49):
this NBA Finals and if it's the Pacers and the thunder,
it's not going to write well, there's just no way
to tell you otherwise. And there's another side to the ratings.
I want to get to that second, but that this
will be the worst NBA champion in the last twenty
five years. And when I heard him say that, look,

(02:11):
don't get me wrong, this part of me is like,
not wrong, right. But then I started to think of
all the previous NBA Finals participants and I realized that, well,
a couple things. First, I went back and looked at

(02:32):
all the NBA Finals, NBA champions, and there's not a
lot of them that don't have a bonafide superstar. Last
year's the Boston Celtics, Jalen Brown was the MVP. Jason
Tatum is not a bonafide superstar, but a star. Year
before that was the Denver Nuggets Nikola Jokicic I think

(02:56):
became a superstar with that run. Year before that, Going Warriors,
Steph Curry here before that, Milwaukee Bucks, Joannison, Tetakumpo. Year
before that, La Lakers, Lebron James, year before that, Toronto Raptors,
Kawhi Leonard, Golden State, Golden State, Cleveland Golden State. San
Antonio had Kawhi Leonard, the Heat, the Heat, the Mavericks,

(03:20):
the Lakers, the Lakers, the Celtics, that was Paul Pierce,
Kevin Garnett. San Antonio beat Cleveland. That was when Lebron
James took an upstart Calves team probably passed the threshold
of their actual talent level. And that San Antonio team
obviously had not just him Duncan, but Tony Parker managed Noble.

(03:43):
So you go back in time and you're like, man,
when was the last time we had a mostly homegrown,
young team with an up and coming star, And I
actually think that was the Golden State Warriors Steph curR
first title run. I think that's what this team most

(04:04):
looks like recently, and you're like, no way, now, what
the difference in that team and this team? That team
in this team is that the Golden State Warriors though
they they beat Lebron James in the finals, and if
you take down Lebron James the finals, it's seen as

(04:25):
a greater championship than taking down Tyrese Haliburton in the finals.
That's reasonable. Should be pointed out that Kyrie Irving was
on that team but hurt his knee, broke his kneecap
in Game one, a game in which the Cavs forced
overtime in so it wasn't like they were playing a
fully loaded Cleveland team like the one that beat them

(04:47):
the next year when they're up three games to one.
But if you look at that team, or if you
look at Michael Jordan's first NBA championship team, you might
come due to agreement with me, and that's that this team,
the Oklahoma City thunder most replicate the first Warriors championship

(05:07):
team and the first Chicago Bulls championship team. The difference
I would say with Golden State is they beat Lebron,
albeit Kyrie was hurt, and Steph Curry was already a
household name, some because of his play in the NBA,
but mostly because of his play in the NCAA tournament

(05:29):
and because he's Del Curry's son. If again, think about
it right now, reasonably okay, When the Golden State Warriors
first won an NBA championship, Steph Curry had not yet
been an MVP. Shake Gildess Alexander has look at the
surrounding pieces. Jayalen Williams Wow. Jayla Williams is an up

(05:50):
and coming second best player on a great team. That
Warriors team. The second best player was Klay Thompson, who
was an up and coming young player on a soon
to be championship team. Now the finals MVP was Andre Iguidala,

(06:13):
who is a former All Star who they added to
a homegrown roster. The starting center was Andrew Bogan, a
former All Star who was added to a homegrown roster
part of the trade that ended up really changing their trajectory.
So you don't have those two, but you do have

(06:34):
the addition of Hertenstein, who's a center who does a
lot of little things and starts for them, and then
they got a down shift to going small, much the
way the Warriors down shift to going small. Though Draymond
and Chet Holmgren, their skill sets, their size, everything about
them is polar opposite. Still Draymon's first title, where he

(06:58):
did so many things because of his verse satility. There's
some similarities there in terms of Chet. Right. Chet obviously
a much higher draft pick, but can handle the ball,
can shoot it, although it doesn't shoot it a ton
now defends the rim saved a game early with a
block shot. Going back to Game four, I don't think

(07:19):
it's that far off. Heck, you go back even further
to win. The Bulls first won their title in nineteen
ninety one. Nobody points out I will today that that
nineteen ninety one Lakers team that play in the finals
wasn't very good. Kareem had retired, The Lakers were not
the same. It was a young Vlade Divac, It wasn't

(07:39):
coached by by pat Riley and the Bulls. Though Jordan
was a superstar, he was the guy who had never
won in the playoffs, couldn't get past the Pistons. Finally
do get to the finals, but what was his surrounding cast,
Like Scottie Pippen was not yet a superstar or a star.
He was up and coming. Horace Grant was kind of

(08:02):
similar to Chet Holmgren, where you thought he was really
good and he was really young, and for Horace unbelievable
defensively in terms of ability to guard different positions. And
they too, brought in a center from elsewhere in a
medical Bill Cartwright. John Paxson was their point guard. He
was a great shooter. You know. It was a young

(08:23):
and up and coming team that had yet to win
a title, that had not gotten to the finals before,
and they end up beating the Lakers, I think, four
games to one, and that set in place the progress
of three straight NBA titles. Now. I don't know if
Oklahoma City can win three straight NBA titles, but I
do know that we're diminishing this team because they have
yet to win one. When they have an NBA MVP

(08:46):
on it, they have guys that are respected, they just
don't have guys that are household names because they haven't
won the playoffs yet. And now they're winning in the
playoffs and we're like, yeah, you got to win a
couple times to you approve it to us, maybe this
one feels different than anything over the past twenty years,
maybe those first Warriors teams like can we agree that

(09:06):
he hasn't had the impact of a Steph Curry perception wise,
But I do think that he's going to have an
impact on the NBA because the way in which he
accumulates free throws and takes fouls, and the way they
play is going to be replicated. Already has been replicated,

(09:30):
playing with pace and space, getting the ball to him
in isolation. And look, he's a great mid range scorer
as well, which most of the league has gone away
from with a couple exceptions. I actually think that SGA
is a breakthrough player. And I think that this is
the first team, probably since the last Thunder Finals team,

(09:53):
to benefit so greatly from trading away. They're aging superstars
or guys that didn't want to be there anymore, and
then able to use that to not just draft great
players and great talent, but put together great teams that
now get to a second NBA Finals. I don't know
if the era of super team is over or if

(10:16):
this is just a one year thing. I do know
there are new rules in place which are meant to
kill dynasties but also meant to keep teams together. So
if they can find a way to keep this group together,
which no one has found a way to do, including
the thunder Right. Last time they went to the finals,
James Harden played terribly, plus apparently he was going out

(10:36):
all the time. He won the MAX, he won a
bigger contract. They didn't give it to him. They trade
them away, and though they still had success afterwards, some
success afterwards, they never got back to an NBA finals.
But with all the movement, they've been able to stay
relevant and stay loaded up, and now they have draft
picks to keep them right there in the mix. I'm

(11:02):
just again, I'm fascinated by this team. I'm trying to
figure out if we've seen this before with the Bulls
or with the Warriors, or if this is an outlider,
or if this is the way in which you build
teams in the future. You know, I've done a ton
of radio and TV in Oklahoma City, and I can
remember you go back seven, eight, nine, ten years ago. Hey,
why don't you know, why don't we go get this

(11:24):
guy or that guy? Because they didn't want to come
to Oklahoma City. It's a place where guys like Alex
Caruso love it because they're just about winning and the
right things and you don't need the you don't need
the flash. Hertenstein's same thing. But going out and getting
the big name free agent just has never worked for
Oklahoma City. So they got to build from within and
then smartly add pieces to it. I watched this team play,

(11:49):
and I think, I don't want to get caught up
and being a prisoner of the moment. I understand times change,
and I realize that you know their teams in the NBA,
I would perceive are going to get better. But again,
ask yourself now, if for the last two seasons they've
been the best team in the West, with exception of
one series against Dallas the Lakers, no matter what you think,

(12:12):
and I love Luca and Lebron's an all time great.
Having Luca and Lebron on the floor at the same
time very unlikely to be able to stop anybody. And
if you've learned anything about the NBA playoffs, you got
to be able to stop somebody if you want to
win it. Are the Clippers going to be better? Are
the Warriors going to be better? Are the Jazz, I mean,

(12:34):
are the Nuggets going to be better? Are the Wolves
going to be better? Are the Mavericks going to be better?
And the answer is very very likely to be no. Right,
if we agree that the thunder are on an upward trajectory, right,
Chet is going to get better, Jaylen Williams is going

(12:56):
to get better. Shay Gildess Alexander continues to get better
and progress every year. They're not yet to the peak,
not yet to thirty years old, thirty one, thirty two
years old, where athletically they start to kind of decline
a little bit. Even if your brain is on fire.
They still have draft picks, they still have the ability
to get better and other teams, whether or not they've
topped out or their best players are aged out, The

(13:18):
very strong likelihood is this is a team that looks
like the Warriors the first time they won a title.
This is a team that looks like the Bulls the
first time they won a title, more so than just
an outlier team. That's what it looks like to me.
So I was thinking about what Dan Beyer said about
how this is the worst champion the last twenty five years,

(13:40):
and what we may be saying, and again I'm cautious
of it because we do it with every time there's
a team in a championship series or a championship game,
or if they win one and they're young, it's up
beginning of a dynasty. And it very very rarely, if ever,
happens when we expect it to happen, which is all
the more reason for it to expect to happen with
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Speaker 2 (14:21):
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Speaker 3 (14:30):
He gets to the stripe for the fourth.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Time in game five thirty three points in thirty three
minutes one twenty.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Four ninety four of the final.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Of thirty point route.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Not a single day went by this season, but Oklahoma
City did not hold the best record in the West.
And now this historic relentless thunderstorm has unstoppably, emphatically and
officially earned the Moniker Best in the West.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yes they have. That's from the Thunder Radio Network on WWLS,
the Sports Animal in Oklahoma City. I mean, I need
you to think about this. Jay Stewing and I talked
about this probably at length, and I honestly think the
best analogy is when when some of the South Korean
automakers came into the market, right initially, Hyundai and Kia

(15:19):
were seen as the cheapest of cheap, especially Hyundai. The
very initial returns were not good, and then they they
came out with a luxury brand. Matter of fact, doesn't
isn't genesis Hundai is not what that it is because
now that's like their Lexus, that's their infinity or whatever.
And initially even still now they pry, they try and
make the exact same car, and then they try to

(15:40):
make it less than the beamers, the Audi's, the Lexuses,
the infinities of this world, that's what they trying to
than the catillacs of this world, and they always fought
the reputation of you'd still rather have a Bends, You'd
still to have a Lexis you should, And slowly but
surely people started to come around to, hey, you know,
maybe I don't know, they actually might be really nice cars.

(16:06):
You know, when there's a new name in the marketplace
and you don't have the years and years of credibility,
it's hard to build it up. And Oklahoma City has
been to this spot before, but these are all new names.
Shay Gildess, Alexander chet Holmgrin, Jalen Williams. And you're like, yeah,
I don't know. Let's wait until the next time we

(16:30):
buy a car. Let's let other people drive it. Well,
if they win an NBA title and they bring everybody
back and they can add with the draft and they
can stay healthy, and they're more likely to stay healthy
because they're younger. Will you be saying the same thing
in three years or will you admit will you miss
the fact that you could have bought in early.

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(17:25):
We also have the press up coming for you. Hey,
and uh, just a quick side note. You know we
tell you every day we have the the Basket of
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Hour includes Alan Bratton today. Allen's the head coach of

(17:49):
Oklahoma State. They won the NCAA championship in golf, and
I think you'll enjoy ten good minutes with coach Bratton
and kind of the changes in college golf that go
along with some of the changes in college athletics. But
a really young team ends up beating Virginia yesterday at
oklhom State wins. They're twenty fifth is that right? Twenty
fifth golf title. That's crazy, that's crazy, crazy crazy. We

(18:15):
do this every Thursday. It's a great way to look
back at years of the past, sports, things of the past.
It's a is it Dan Byer invention? But Jay Stu
perfected it. We call it, don't call it throw Back Thursday.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Don't call it a throwback throw Back Thursday, Jay Stu,
what do you got?

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
I want all of the listeners and everybody contributing to
the show right now to think about what they were
doing in twenty twelve, thirteen years ago, thirteen years ago,
go back in time. It was the start of Generation A.
If you had a baby in twelve, you can now
call them a Generation A baby. Jena Jennay Jenny. Oklahoma

(19:10):
City Thunder Last made the NBA Finals in twenty twelve.
Quick history for our listeners. The Seattle SuperSonics were a thing.
They had a championship. So if you hear a broadcaster
say this is the first championship and the history of
Theahoma City thunder it's half right because the Sonics won

(19:30):
one back in the seventies. But the Sonics couldn't get
an arena built in Seattle. So the owner at the time,
and I think he ran Starbucks, I could be wrong
on that detail, said I'm going to move the team
to Oklahoma City.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
No, that's the Howard Schultz owned the team. He sold
the team to Clay Bennett. Howard Schultz CEO, owner of Starbucks,
sold it to Clay Bennett, who's from Oklahoma City. And
when that arena couldn't get done, that's moved the team.

Speaker 6 (20:01):
That's what happened. I'm going to clean that up and edit.
Oklahoma City Thunder beat the Spurs on the Western Conference Finals.
It looks like they played. It looks like six games.
So they won four to two. And you're thinking, who
was on that Oklahoma City Thunder team? And boy, are
you going to be surprised at these names. Kevin Durant

(20:25):
was the leader of a team that also included James Harden,
Russell Westbrook, Serjeabaka, Kendrick Perkins. Derek Fisher was on that team,
Nick Collison. If these names ring a bell, that was
the last Oklahoma City Thunder team to make the NBA Finals,
as they this week in twenty twelve, wrapped up their

(20:50):
Western Conference Finals against the Spurs. Manzi Blago. So when
you think of twenty twelve, what first comes to mind
sports wise?

Speaker 7 (21:00):
Okay, I had to confirm, because twenty twelve I instantly
go to. That was when I started working at Universal
Studios as a tour guide. I met some of the
greatest people that are still my friends, including the boyfriend.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
But that year was the year of Lynn Sanity.

Speaker 7 (21:16):
That was Jeremy Lynn going off for the Knicks.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
He had a game winner. I wanted, I know he had.

Speaker 7 (21:23):
They had like a seven game winning streak against the
Lakers in there, But Lynn Sanity was March.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Of twenty twelve, February of twenty.

Speaker 7 (21:32):
Twelve, that was Lynn Sanity game winner against Lakers. Maybe
was Toronto, but that was That's what I think of
in twenty twelve, aside from ok see, which by the way,
they only won one game. I had to double check
it was four to one. That team that you just mentioned,
only how did they only win one game?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Well, they played the Heat who had who had Lebron James,
Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, who else? Ray Allen? Kind of
a good team.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
I saw the way that was not drafted in any
of our eight choices of ten minutes ago.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
It was not, it was not, it was I just
thought that I remember thinking, okay see, not that they
would win, but that they would win to at least
at that time.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Harden was a disaster. He was yea, he was bad.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
He was bad.

Speaker 7 (22:19):
After he hadn't been bad. Obviously, six Men of the
Year that year, right, that was the same year.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
Yeah, quick detail about when sanity Doug What were the details.
Carmel Anthony was hurt?

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, Carmelle, it was like a it was a culmination
of things. Yes, right, Carmel Anthony was hurt. He played
for Mike D'Antoni, and Mike D'Antoni has like been steroids
to any of these guys stats, right, Yeah, I mean
I think I think all those things kind of came
together wide open court. Yeah right, nobody in the lane,

(22:55):
and he just caught a heater and he also got
some teams that were tired.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, we're tired.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
It was so good.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
That was so fun.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Dog, What do you remember from that year in twenty twelve,
That was a year, by the way, I switched from
ESPN to CBS. It was two thousand. Wow. That was like,
that was a big one. That was a big one
because I really enjoyed my time there and you know,
tried something different. I remember the NFL that year.

Speaker 6 (23:27):
In the chapter of your biography, it'll be going from
ESPN to Eric Spitz.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Oh, I have some stories. That was the year that
the that was the year the Ravens won the Super
Bowl right in thirteen? Correct?

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Are we going to get bogged down into this? What
was the twenty twelve year? Go with eleven into twelve
in the Giants over the Packs?

Speaker 7 (23:55):
Correct, Giants over and then the Ravens won the.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
Next year it ended in the Harbor Bowl in twenty thirteen.
But yes, the Ravens won that season. The twenty twelve season, yep.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, but the but the twenty twelve Bowl was the
second of the Eli Manning Super Bowls. Yeah, that was
the Giselle saying, my husband cannot do it out by himself.
Do you that? Yes, my husband cannot do it by himself.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
That's second. It's a cross between like a German and
Southeast Asian accent.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
That's how she sounds. Find the clip, Sam, find the clip.
My husband cannot do it by himself.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
That's pretty good efforting. Oh, don't wait on it, I
need to.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Do Oh sorry, sorry about that one.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (24:45):
In uh Major League Baseball that year, You remember what
happened Major League Baseball.

Speaker 7 (24:51):
Is that Giants one?

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yep, Giants won every other every other now every even
oh yeah, even numbers.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
That's how Yeah, one even yours.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yes, that's right.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
That was wasn't Pablo Sandoval. Wasn't he the MVP? Right?
That was when he was k Kung Fu Panda.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (25:09):
They won in seven games over the Tigers. Yeah, the
last time the Tigers were in the World Series. And
they're having quite a year this year.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
By the way, Tigers that year were unbelievable. Did you
remember their roster in two thousand and.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
Well that was the Pesson staff that included Sureser and Verlander.
I mean, you top those two guys in their prime?

Speaker 3 (25:26):
My goodness.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, the whole but the whole team was just loaded, loaded,
and I think they got Did they get swept in
the World Series?

Speaker 3 (25:39):
I want to say, no, they lost in seven games?
You sure that's what it says here.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I got lost four games to four games to none
in the World Series to the Giants.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
But okay, Penfield four games sweep.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Johnny Peralta, a twenty nine year old Miguel Cabrera forty
four home runs, the league in batting average, led the
league in slugging. Little ead In ops.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
The first player in forty five years to win the
Triple Crown.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Yep Bertlander Scherzer, Rick Porcello, Doug Fisser, and their closure
was Jose Valverde. That's like a Jose Valverde is like
a perfect baseball announced surname. Don't believe me, Jason Stewart,
Can you please say Jose.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Valverde, Jose Valverde.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
There you go, right, That just sound like baseball sounds amazing,
how that Valverde Valverde in the stretch, Valverde wines deals
just to be outside. It's a perfect baseball name. J Valverte.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
I just watched Major Lee the other day, so you
know the wait and great Bob Buker obviously steals everything.
Valverdi would have been a perfect thing. Like up next
for the Indians Valverde. You just would just say their
last name val.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's just perfect. There's nothing imperfect at all about Jose
Valverde's name in baseballs is a great one.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Little clarification going back to our Giselle and Super Bowl discussion,
you were kind of in the same ballpark, but she
actually said she was caught on a camera kind of
talking to a group of people with her back to
the camera. My husband cannot blanking throw the ball and
catch the ball at the same time.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
That was That was when Will Welker dropped the big
third down throw that was on his finger tipically laid
out for it. You have the actual sounds, you can
hear the not with the accent is pretty good. But
my I thought my accent was pretty.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
There's a cursory in this, and look for a clean
one here.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
She sounds lovely.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Oh she is lovely, isn't she is? Giselle? She's German? Right,
isn't wouldn't she?

Speaker 6 (27:58):
Is she not?

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Brazilian German background? Yeah, bunchin buchin.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
She just had a kid with the uh yeah, she
did with the other guy she did. That sucks? It sucks.
I mean, just what was what was he their trainer?

Speaker 6 (28:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (28:19):
He was what's it called? Uh, he was what's it called.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Instructor plates or yoga or something something like that? Trainer?

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Jit right? Okay, yeah he's fig He got her in
a hold.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yes he did. Now, twenty twelve was an Olympic here and.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
He chose not to tap out Jasetu. You've gotta have
a line here, you gotta have.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
One, uh Gizelle on the trainer?

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yes, yeah, I can't.

Speaker 6 (28:50):
I just can't get beyond the fact that she obviously
dislikes guys that are out of shape.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
He pulled all the right moves with her. Something like that. Okay,
moving on. Twenty twelve was an Olympic year. Everybody's eyes
were in London, and I specifically remember this. This chapter
of social media is just like social media combining with sports.

(29:17):
It was the early years of kind of of the
social media, so this was a big deal. I remember
I was working on the gym Rome show and we
would play this. So the Olympic swimming team this like
deliciously handsome guy. I forget his name, Ryan Lochte wasn't
very smart, but he was a really good looking guy.

(29:37):
Did I mention he was good looking? Now let's look
at him again.

Speaker 6 (29:42):
The swim team on the airplane ride to London performed
this song and this became a social media thing where
like then, the Miami Dolphin cheerleaders performed this song and
they would do videos and again it was the early
day of social media. It became viral. And do you
remember this song.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
This is carly Rae Jepsum. Yes, that's correct, that is correct,
and her number one single, call Me Maybe.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
And her only her Only.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
It was boosted greatly by Justin bieber Fellow, Canadian. He
posted himself dancing to this song and it literally made
this song go to number one.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
It's very catchy. Even to this day. I still have
it in my phone. We're all dancing in the studio.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Can I let me give you a little proof here
on something though? Okay, every time we have the Olympics,
people act like it's like the biggest thing, and you know,
and it resonates so much. Again, outside of that song,
what can you remember of the twenty twelve Olympics.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
I just remember how good looking Ryan walkde is. I
think my Phelps right afterthought you could say pause.

Speaker 7 (31:05):
Yeah, but Michael Phelps, I remember haym like, hey, I.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Got a question for you. I got a question for you.
Months settle, settle an argument for us. Yes, okay, Does
it is pause strictly for same sex comments? That comments
that can be taken as a same sex comment? Or
can it be hetero as well?

Speaker 3 (31:29):
I think it can be hetero as well. I think
nowadays yes.

Speaker 6 (31:35):
According to Google AI and hip hop culture and online slaying,
pause is used as a playful way to signal that
what was just said and done might sound or appear homosexual,
but it's not meant to be taken that way. It's
a very similar to no homo. The term pause is
often used in humorous and comedic context.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Listen, this is we We agree that pause is used
in to like, hey, it may have sound sexual, it's
not sexual pause, and you're kind of bringing attention to
like yeah, I said that, but it didn't come out
the way. But I'm gonna disagree with that that what
what who are you citing as your reference?

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Urban Dictionary, which I think I think Urban Dictionary has
fewer editorial safeguards than Wikipedia, Like anybody can go in
there and be like, yeah, this is what this means.
I think Jason's correct. What I think, though, is that
a lot of these things they start in a corner
of our our our societal parlance, and then it kind
of seeps out to the mainstream. So I think that

(32:37):
I agree with you, Doug and Moncy that it started
that and now it's it's like.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
I don't think I think it's the opposite. Actually I
think it's the opposite. I thought I thought pause was
always the catch all, always like anytime you say something
that could be taken as sexual, you say pause, and
then anytime you say something that could come out as homosexual,
you go, hey, no amo.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, I'm not personally used the latter ever, and I've
only actually you heard you use pause, and I've never
heard anyone else use pause. I'm being honest here in
my experience with the word. This is just my experience.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
I thought pause took the place of no homo because
no homo's very politically incorrect.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
I agree it no homos. You're saying it took the.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Place of that's what she said. Yes, that's the crux
of this argument. That's what she said.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Is so good?

Speaker 7 (33:30):
I us that's what she said all the time.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
So good, that's what she said. Or he pause?

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Okay, did did pause? When did that start? Twenty twelve?
That's been great. If it did, it's been.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
A long pause has probably been out twenty twelve, that's probably.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yeah. I've been ever since Michael Scott from the Office
kind of popularized that that's what she said joke, I've
been trying to figure out where it actually started, and
as far back as I can find, uh, I heard
it in the movie Beverly Hills Ninja. Chris Farley utters
it when he's playing this other character. I think it
goes back further than that, though, I don't know. We'll

(34:06):
we'll have to go do a thrill act.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
I feel like, yeah, I feel like that was a
commonly used guy expression.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, like a little nudge nudge with the elbow, Yeah,
she said, She.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Said, yeah, it's one of those funny the first or
second time, and then afterwards you're like, Okay, we're good here.
Moving on.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
So, speaking of movies, Doug's the list of movies here.
But I want to play one more song from that year.
I have no idea what this song is, but Sam
says it was popular.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Doug, do you have any idea what this is? Yes, yeah,
this is a groove? Sam, who is this? Introduce us?
This is I had never heard of her name, honestly,
Ellie Goulding Golding. This came in at number five the
Billboard Year and Hot one hundred Singles of twenty twelve,

(34:54):
Number five, Ellie Goulding with lights Lights. This is a
good song. I don't like a lot of pop music.
This is a good one. This is a good one,
I think so in my opinion, you had.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
This and call me maybe this was not a great
year in music.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Okay, how about one more. You have a whole connection
with Ellie Goulden at all, Doug, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Am I supposed to the name sounds familiar? But why
would I?

Speaker 3 (35:19):
I never knew her name. Let's move up. Well, this
band had a couple of huge bits around.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Am I missing something? Is there a pause or an innuendo?
And no, that's her name.

Speaker 6 (35:30):
If you have told the story once, you've told it
twenty you have a story about this. You were driving
at some point and you heard Howard Stern interviewing somebody.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
It wasn't Elie Goulding. No, No, No, it wasn't. It
was what's the what's the uh? She sings, Uh, You're
gonna I'm gonna love you like I'm gonna lose you. Oh.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Megan Trainer.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Meghan Trainer was Megan Trainer's like life story. Megan Trainer.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
All right?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
That good?

Speaker 3 (36:01):
I do love Megan Trainer. She's great.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
You know, how do you know how she got her
her first dropped her first song. She was a songwriter
for everybody.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
And I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
You didn't know that, No, I didn't that. Just like Christampleton,
she was a strongwriter for everybody and uh, she went
in to see l a read she had this song
It's all about the Uh, I'm gonna love you. I
don't think it's all about the base. I think it
was I'm gonna love you like I'm gonna lose you, right,
And she does with John Legend and but rumor's just
her And she played it on the She just knew

(36:34):
on the ukulele, like a verse of it. And his
secretary was like, no, he wants you to play the
whole song and she had. She spent like the whole
day like teaching herself how to play the song and
deliver the song. And then when she got done, she
finally went in and saw him and sang and He's like, great,
let's record it. And he was like, who do you
want to record it with? And he said you and
that that was the day changing amazing.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
I did not know that, and.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I almost got caught in a tornado. That's a story
I've told a bunch. Okay, let's get the movies, shall
we wait.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
I'd be remiss if I didn't bring up the twenty
twelve Stanley Cup champions Since we are in the thick
of the Stanley Cup playoffs. It was the Angelina's Tell
me who was gigs?

Speaker 8 (37:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (37:17):
They won two and what four years?

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Can you name one player on the La Kings team?
Don't say and don't say Johny. He was the goaltender, right.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
He was the guy who like bridged all the arrows
of the Kings in the last like fifteen years. So
I mean, oh wait, you.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Grew up a timee Wayne Gretzky. They were all on
that team, right Wayne. The jokes is Martin McSorley, Yes,
number one movie that year? Anybody?

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Avengers seven?

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Is it me? Twenty twelve twelve, Batman.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yes, Dark Knight Okay, yeah, Dark Knight Rises Worthy Worthy three?

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Right, the third of the trogy.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yes, Dark Knight Rises Avengers was two. Hunger Games, Hunger
Games zero, Dark thirty Django Unchanged was right there too,
is actually number two? Really good year in movies, Yeah,
really good.

Speaker 6 (38:14):
I'm gonna ask you to lower the music, Sam So
in the third installment of the Batman trilogy, Bain was
the Baine was a bad guy, and I used to
do a great Baine impression, and I haven't done this
in many years.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
I'm gonna see if I can still pull it off.
Am I gonna get this right? Perhaps?

Speaker 7 (38:32):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Wandering throw that's good, and he's covering his mouth for
extra effects and aesthetic authenticity.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
That was good.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
That was good. If Tom Hardy's listening right now, I
wanted to tweet at Jason Stewart and give it a rating.
So I'm a big fan of Tom Hardy.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Do we think Tom Hardy's for this?

Speaker 3 (38:59):
I don't know he lives in Los Angeles?

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Is that pause?

Speaker 8 (39:01):
No?

Speaker 3 (39:04):
The Revenant bad? Max great, great actor. Yeah, I don't know.
That's uh what other movie?

Speaker 8 (39:11):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah? Those are I think? You know, guys, And if
we if we're still doing the show in fifteen years,
who knows where we'll be. We're gonna look back to
twenty twenty five's biggest movies and we'll be like, yeah,
it was Lelo and Stitch, and then it'll be like
Sound of Crickets and then that'll be the end of
the segment.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
It is crazy how much music movies have, like like
what is coming out and fourth of July this year?

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Good question, and trying to.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Explain to somebody now that back in the day, like
Fourth Light, like Will Smith owned Fourth of July there's
always some epic movie that came out and now it's like, yeah,
I don't know, it's Ransom Canyon on Netflix.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Oh uh, you know what, I'm actually really looking forward
to this movie. It's coming out in June. Twenty eight
years later.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (39:57):
It's like twenty eight day it's the twenty years later?
Is the twenty eight days later? Is it the third one?
Is it twenty eight days? And then I don't know
it's the second or third one? Flat? Okay, but I
don't remember. There's one betweens.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
But twenty years later is like the virus twenty eight
days is let's post that virus.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
He's twenty eight years later. I think it's still a virus. No,
the virus is still around. There's like colonies of people
I've seen previous. It looks scary and it looks thrilling.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
So it's dystopian, is what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
It's very dystopian and it looks really.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
You know, hey, it's like mister my Son's like mister
dystopian movies. Love is dystopias.

Speaker 6 (40:32):
So the actual answer to your question is this, Jurassic Park, Reworld, Rebirth,
Super Mad, Fantastic four, and Smurf's all gonna be uh
released in July.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
I think so those are all remakes. I mean essentially,
I don't know Spurf's ever been a movie, but it's
a you know, like literally those are all Lelo instance remakes.
Superman remake Superman is going to be so Superman's gonna
be prequels whatever. They closer in the ride at the.

Speaker 7 (41:01):
Six Flags, Yes they did, Yes we did. I don't
know if it was just lack of interest, like the
line was always so long and all it did was
just go up and down. I think I think it
was just lack of interest and probably make space to
build something else.

Speaker 6 (41:14):
I've got a I've got an inside, I got a mole,
I got somebody. Maybe my girlfriend's son works there. So
there's some information. Same reason the Goliath is getting closed down.
The cost of maintaining it and fixing get closed down.

Speaker 7 (41:28):
I love the lie that dip that drop oh yeah,
drop yeah, but.

Speaker 6 (41:34):
The cost of fixing it, the hours that they charged
to fix it, it is not worth the uh keeping it.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
When is it closing?

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah? But they need to get rid of There's so
many other ones they need to get rid of there.
So mid yeah, below, they need to have Hayes, Gottlieb
and me. We go in there because you know, once
a year we do that. We we did in the spring,
we go to six Flags on a vacant day and
just go ride every roller coaster.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
And then we discussed, well you have you and your
son have two things to see twenty eight years later
and you're gonna go test all of the roller coasters
at six Flags and get back to the brass in charge.
It's your summer plan.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Stuck Ah, that's still called it.

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Speaker 1 (42:25):
Stuck out the show Fox Sports right now. All the
polonies will join us after we get to the update.
This was Anthony Edwards, the ant Man, the ant Man,
a total reporters after the game, what happened in the
series and what's gonna happen in the offseason.

Speaker 8 (42:41):
They came ready to play.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
We didn't.

Speaker 9 (42:43):
When you lose a game like this is not really
too much to break down. They just did what they
were supposed to do in one a game. They dominated
the game from a tip came doing them with tip
my head. Of those guys, they came ready man, so
put job by them. Nobody's gonna work harder than me
this summer, I'll tell you that much. So yeah, I'll try.
I'll try to make it happen again.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
From Mike, I think there's some flaws in the construct
of the Timbooles. There's some expectations of Anthony Edwards that
are probably above his level currently of competency. And I
don't think that failing two years in a row in
the Western Conference finals is a death knell to a

(43:20):
twenty three year old's career. I do think people are
trying to make him into somebody's like, well, they got
to develop a post game like what okay, who's the
guy who has the post game as a wing in
the NBA like Michael Jordan Kobe that currently exists. They
don't why because nobody plays that way anymore. So I

(43:41):
just I think there's there's a lot more to it
than that. Let's you know, let's welcome in old and polonies.
Let's not wait till the let's not wait to the
update fifteen years in the NBA is our Fox Sports
Radio NBA analyst you George is now in the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Oh p, thanks so
much for taking time with us. Let's start with the Thunder.

(44:05):
The perception I think nationally is, you know, everybody else
is hurt or getting older. This is the best of
the rest of the teams. We even discussed is this
the worst champion potentially in twenty five years? And then
I wonder out loud, no, is this just the the
dawn of a new era? Much like the Warriors, I

(44:26):
don't know, ten twelve years ago, much like the Bulls
in ninety one. What are your thoughts on this Thunder
team and what it means for the Western Conference that
they're the Western Conference champion?

Speaker 8 (44:38):
Well, it says this, you know, the OKC Thunder. You know,
they wont sixty eight games. That's the time, the fifth
most in the history of the NBA. So you can't
take that away from what they've done is they've learned
how to play within the Bulls as they are, and
they take the full advantage of it. Also, Mark Dagnall
and the rest of that staff, especially Samfesti, you know

(45:01):
what all the draft picks they were able to make
moves that never really hurt them but made them grow stronger.
You know, they built this college atmospheric type situation there
and they have all embraced it. So they played with
so much energy, with so much intensive I mean, I
have not seen full court pressure defense since I played

(45:24):
in eighty seven under Bob Poppenbird and we were picking
up full court. That's how long it's been. And teams
in today's game are not expecting that. They don't expecting
you to do it at the beginning of the game,
and that's what's shocking everybody. So they playing an old school,
top stylar basketball with new age players.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Old ponies. Sin Is Doug got leave show. You listened
to Fox Sports Radio? Okay, you got the Knicks taking
on the Pacers tonight trying to stave off elimination. Tyres Halliburton,
what's your evil of how how we should look at him?

Speaker 8 (46:02):
Well, Tyres is you know he used the words used
against him to show people, you know, overrated and so
to me and that was foul, you know, with the
players doing that and making a public that wasn't cool.
But he's used everything. You know, they they bought his
dad he's used that, so he's motivated all the way around.

(46:24):
But Indiana, again similar to Oklahoma City. They run a
fast paced game and they play like a college style
and they're in Indiana, the home of basketball pitty much
in my opinion, and it's like they're doing the same thing.
They pick you up foot court, they put a lot
of fush on you, and they have a championship coach.
So those things both well for them. But ty Reese

(46:46):
is the key this guy. You know, the fact that
he's a low turnover guy is huge. And that's the
problem with so many teams the NIXT. Okay, see we
go back to teams that aren't even in the playoffs,
like the gold Say Warriors. It's like teams like that,
high turnover teams, it's hard to win. But he's a
low turnover guy and he's doing what he's supposed to do.

(47:08):
He's just taking advantage.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. That's
the that's the voice of olden polonies. Okay, the Knicks.
Is it? What's limiting the Knicks in this series? And
at the top of the NBA their exhaustit.

Speaker 8 (47:27):
You got a guy standing on the sidelines in Tom
Thibodeaux that doesn't know how to make in game decisions
and adjustment. And it's a shame. I've said this all along.
You're gonna wear these guys out, and which is what
he did. You can't play five guys forty minutes. He
just can't do it. So four guys forty forty two,

(47:48):
that's insane. You have other NBA players. You have three
guys on your team in Landry Shammoth, the Lonwright and
Precious Ature who who have been in big games, and
yet they can find extensive minutes under Tibola. And so
to me, that's the problem. These guys are gassed, and
no one wants to talk about it. You have just

(48:10):
driven your team into the ground as a coach, and
all he does is stand there with his arms cross
and looks silly.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Old Paul is joining us. Okay, what about the argument
that Brunson can't be the best player in the championship team.

Speaker 8 (48:26):
But Bronson maybe should have shouldn't be. But at the
same time, it has nothing to do with him. It
has to do with the fact that these guys are exhausted.
Experiod Indiana is using that against him. They are again
picking up full court, different defenders. All of that stuff
comes into play. It has nothing to do with whether
he can be the number one or number two. To me,
I'll say this, I don't believe he and Paul Anthony

(48:49):
Towns can co exist too much. One's a big. Ones
are big and ones are small. But they're both the
same players. They are both the same exact play, just
different body.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Yeah, it is interesting. Actually, I think Brunson's better inside
the lane, whereas I think Towns may be better at
shooting threes. It's they're actually the roles are reversed from
the usual roles of men of their size. All right,
So if we get Oklahoma City and Indy, both teams
have tremendous depths. Obviously, the Pacers want to play at

(49:27):
a great pace. Who do you like?

Speaker 8 (49:35):
I believe that the series with the knickses over pretty much.
It's unfortunate because I really like the Knicks and what
they did against Boston. But right now, again, the longer
the series go to the playoffs go that the worst
the Knicks are gonna fair. And so I'd rather see
Indiana than a one out in New York team against Okay.
See So Indiana is going to put pressure on them

(49:57):
because they pay, and I think they can up pomp
for pound. Now, the advantage I give Indiana is the
fact that I don't think they could. I obviously don't
think they can stay with Indiana's paid. I really don't,
and so to me, and they have, like I said,
they have enough bodies to throw at OLKC.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
They do. And then of course we'll see if Halburton
is as good as he's played here in the NBA.
What can we learn about the future of the league
from these two teams? Will see me playing in the finals?

Speaker 8 (50:31):
Well, the future is bright, I believe that, you know.
And so it's showing us where it's at. You know.
I think we're going to get back to the era
of you know, what we had in the eighties and nineties,
you know, physicality. We're seeing that with Carusoe, Luke Dort
and those guys, and also with mouse Turner on the

(50:52):
other side and Mathurin. All those guys were in Ganna.
So they are they are taking advantage, like I said earlier,
of the room rules. The playoffs came, and that's what's
been shocking to a lot of teams. You know, expecting
whistles that aren't coming. That's what happened with Minnesota. They
thought they were going to get the same whistles or
not whistles like they got in Game three, and it

(51:12):
didn't happen. It messed their minds up. But this league is,
you know, is in an uptick because you got some
good young players that are bringing back old school basketball.
And that's what I'm loving about it. You know, the
mid rage game is coming back, and I am loving
stuff like that. You know, neither one of those teams
shoot a lot of three, but they will shoot them

(51:36):
when they need to, so it's a good combination. And
the full court pressure defense. I you know, I love defense,
so I'm really excited about that.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Yeah, you and me both. It is its fun. It's
fun to see the depth of those teams. It's fun
to see how hard they play, like you said, sort
of a collegiate feel and playing a lot of dudes
and pressuring that's done. And the pace the Pacers plays
a very very watchable style. How do we how do
we connect those two things? Because you know, Jason Stewart,
my producer, will and he'll straight straight up tell you,

(52:08):
like not a fan of the NBA. I'm like, dude,
you got to watch the playoffs because it's way better
basketball than you think. Now he's like, it's really good,
but people aren't going to watch. How do we connect
the style that's actually being played, uh with the fans
who are kind of caught in the narrative of NBA
basketball is a hard watch.

Speaker 8 (52:29):
Well, we got to get rid of some of the
old narratives that they've been used to, you know, because
of the plays that we've had in the past, and
they got to remember. I mean, you were loving the Warriors,
but it was almost the same thing that the Warriors
were doing. It was hard nose defense. It's just that
now these two teams that I'm speaking of, Indiana and Oka,
see they extended full court. And you got to remember,

(52:50):
the NBA is a copycat league. Either one of those
teams win the championship, trust me, everybody's switching up. Oh
we need the extend id, we need to do this.
We need to get a young coach, we need it's
gonna happen. It's a copycat league.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Oh, you're the best man. Appreciate you, Jonas. Let's talk
as the finals rule on. Thanks for being our guest
in Fox Sports Radio. I that's a fifteen year NBA vet.
Unbelievable guy, Fox Sports Radio NBA insider Holden Polonies. Let's
get and by the way, he didn't even get his
theme song, like, come on, Sam, come on Sam.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
We had a production meeting behind the scenes here and
Jason put the axe on it.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Really, I told you that true. Hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 6 (53:36):
So the last two times we played his intro like
here's the this is the history of Olden Polonies' intro.
Dan Bayer put together a game called Olden Days where
we're talking about old Yes, Olden's old old playing days. Sure,
I did a theme song for it, and then I'm like, man,

(53:56):
whenever we have him on as a guest, we have
this theme song raded oh. So we started pulling it
and Oldham loved it. Like he could hear him on
the phone laughing. He loved it. He took ownership over it. Yeah,
the last two times, neither you or him even reacted
to it. It was like every guest is brought in
with a karaoke version of a producer singing at the

(54:16):
top of his lungs. It's like, just this is just
standard play. So if it's not going to get a reaction,
then I'll just put the go on it.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Well, I think, And it's funny you say kobash is
it kabash or is the kaibash.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Either or I don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
I'm just again, I just want to be right when
I say it right. The one thing, I also think
you're lacking some context there because the last two times
he joined us, I think the music was late. It
was like, oh oh, because we were coming out of
something else. We kind of had to scramble to get there.
And I think that's the reason there wasn't the normal

(54:50):
reaction as well as both of us were friends kind
of chomping at the bit to talk hoops. He's like, yeah,
let's just kind of it's like partially, let's push it
aside and get after it. Right. So that's that's I
think what was behind.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
I think Olden heard it a few times and he's like,
I'm good, now, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
I don't think in the words of Sprockets, your story
has become tiresome, this song has become tiresome.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
If that's what you think it is by all means,
guys like I'll I'll abide by that. I don't think
it was we say that deep.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
We'll dust it off some time we went without it.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Okay. Uh, this is the Doug Otlieb Show on Fox. Portrait.
Do we do eat? An update? Don't we?

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (55:36):
You do.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
There's months I'm here, Hey, mons, how come you don't
turn on the camera in your in your studio.

Speaker 7 (55:42):
Because then I have to worry about what I'm doing
with the camera on.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
I'm eating.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
I'm writing notes.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
My nose.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
But thank you for that, Sam, thank you for that.
Thank you for that.

Speaker 7 (55:55):
But I usually am eating more than anything when I'm
sitting here as I take my notes.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
That's really, that's all it is.

Speaker 7 (56:02):
Oh yeah, but maybe, yeah, maybe I'll make an effort
to not eat when I sit here, and then that
way I don't have to eat.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Not eat. You can eat, you can do whatever.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
It's hand snacking through the day, ansacs to the day.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
I don't think I find that I can't eat in
front of a camera.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
I don't know. I don't know what it is. Uh,
you want my quick comment on that? Here? It is?
Okay it Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Trade a
good roll in a Yes, Charlie Baker wants to expand
from seventy two to seventy six. And you'll have people
that are coaches like myself and they'll be like, oh,
the sanctity of college basketball and we have blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah. It is about one

(56:39):
thing and one wow, two things. Two things, okay, the
and and really comes down to one but two things.
The first thing it's about is about keeping the NCAA together.
I don't know how many people followed this, but there's
the there's this room or out there Greg Sank and
the SEC. They want them the Big ten. They want
to break off and have get away from the NCAA.

(57:03):
So with the settlement, which has not yet been I
don't believe signed by the judge, is like this designed
really for one thing, to stabilize college athletics and to
keep the NCAA together. And you think the NCAA again,
a lot of this is narrative. It's some nefarious organization,
Like no, it's not. You got some figureheads like Charlie

(57:24):
Baker who run the thing. But it's just all the
schools kind of voting and how they vote is a
good part of the argument. But the NCAA tournament is
the only place that the NCAAA makes money, and it's
also the place where programs like mine that we make
money based upon what we do with our home games
are guarantee games, and how many teams get into the

(57:48):
tournament from our league, and then how many units they get.
There's amount of money you get for every team and
then every round that they advanced in the tournament. So
last year, for example, not this year, Oakland won the tournament,
went to the tournament, won a game in the tournament,
the whole league got two units, Oakland getting the majority
of getting the biggest chunk of that money. So what

(58:11):
this does is, Okay, if you create and they'll probably
go to seventy two and then eventually expand to seventy six. Right, oh,
we're at sixty eight. You want four more teams in
two more games. Gotta pay more money, Then you get
more money. You'll wait a couple of years. Okay, you
like that. Now you gotta get more money. But all
programs need more money. Everything costs more money. There's this

(58:35):
assumption out there there's endless streams of money. It's not true.
This is where if you don't have football, this is
where you get all the money. So everybody will want
it to happen. It's not for programs like mine, and honestly,
because mid majors and low majors aren't getting they're not
gonna get a second bid. That's where the big part

(58:56):
comes in, where it's really to keep those power for
schools happy. You know, if there's eight more spots, they'll
get six or seven of them. That'll create you know,
more units, more money, and that'll keep them tied to
the NCAA longer so that everybody continue making money and
that the train can continue on to the next station.

(59:18):
So when he throws it out there, people are like, yeah, wait,
so we make more money and more teams get in
the tournament, Like, what are we losing on this? Well,
you know you have to have sixty fourteen bracket. You
still have the bracket, you just have more playing games.
Do I love it?

Speaker 8 (59:32):
No?

Speaker 1 (59:33):
But again, do I want to keep my job and
have my school and all schools make more money? Yeah,
have to in order to survive.