THE BEST OF THE DOUG GOTTLIEB SHOW

On a Tuesday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug previews the Packers season as he broadcasts live from across from Packers Camp in Green Bay, WI.

Doug welcomes long-time Packers reporter Rob Demovsky onto the show to give the latest about the Packers

Doug welcomes Cheesehead TV Co-Founder Aaron Nagler onto the show to get all of the details about the Packers entering the season.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
I hope you're having a great day.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
We are joining you live from green Bay, Wisconsin. You're
like Doug, You're always live at green Bay, Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
But if you're looking in the background, there there's the
g right that Slambo Field, and right behind me is
the practice field where the Green Bay Packers complete their
practice of the day. And we're going to talk a
lot about the pac today. Stop about the pack Arry
nag Who's going to join us, co founder of Cheesehead TV.

(00:59):
We'll talk some Cleveland round football, yeah, the Browns. Yeah.
Also Rob Demovski is gonna join us. Long time, long time,
describe covering the green Bay package and then if you
download the podcast at the top of when the show's done.
So five on the East two on the West coast.

(01:21):
You can hear my discussion with Kyal Malsan, who for
the CBS affiliate covers the Green Bay Packers. So we're
here in Green Bay covering Green Bay Packer Camp. We
should be hitting up the Chicago Bears, I believe, the
Rams and the Chargers and maybe one more TBD in
terms of little training camp tour from your boy, and

(01:43):
it's great. It's an incredible place. If you haven't come
to Green Bay before. I tell people all the time
it's almost a tourist trap there in terms of getting
into lambeau Field and going to a game. But training
camp is much the same. Right if you if you're
looking behind me, that's the road that the players ride kids'

(02:04):
bikes on, and you know, to the outside of the
stadium is where the homes are. I mean, it's a
real thing. It's like they don't really do that. No,
they really ride the kids' bikes every day, and the
kids lead the bikes, watch practice after practice, they ride
the bikes back. Pretty cool. But I think this is

(02:25):
a fascinating year for the pack because two years ago
there were no expectations of Jordan Love. He exceeded them.
They had the San Francisco forty nine ers felt like
dead to rights in the playoffs, couldn't close last year.
I don't think anybody would say it wasn't disappointing. You
lose your top or one of your top wide receivers

(02:46):
to an ACL last game of the year, Jordan Love
turned the ball over a bit too much and they
lose rule in the playoffs, only won one divisional game.
Here's Jordan Love earlier today talking about his team and
getting through the draft.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
I was definitely surprised, you know, going in that first round,
having the draft here in Green Bay and hearing them,
you know, Mark Murfield, they're talking about for the first
time since two thousand and whatever getting a receiver. So
I was pretty excited about that. Bringing in Matthew Golden
say from TCU, and I mean, those are two guys
that I think are going to add, you know, just
a more dynamic threat to our passing game. But like

(03:21):
you said, we got a lot of weapons.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
What was and still is the youngest team in the
NFL now has experience, and they've done what they hadn't
done since two thousand and two, which is draft a
talented wide receiver in the first round. It's like things
kind of stuff. Then you look around the division, You're
like year one with the Bears and a new coaching staff.
They probably don't take off. They're likely better, but not

(03:44):
challenged for the division better. The Lions lose their coordinators,
lose a bunch of players. You do feel like this
is a year where the Lions maybe come back down
to earth. The Vikings lose their second quarterback in consecutive years,
and now it's gonna be Jj McCarthy who's technically second

(04:04):
year but really a rookie. So the division, though good,
doesn't feel as strong at the top. The young team
gets experience, they finally go out and get a wide receiver.
It feels like you got a lot of things in
your favor. Is it a super Bowl team because the

(04:28):
Niners have the Niners topped out?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Right?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Have they aged out? Then kind of look around the
NFC and you're like, well, you know, I love the Eagles,
But the Eagles the year after the Super Bowl last
time around sort of fell apart. Did get to the
playoffs and they got to replace their offensive coordinator and
everything went right for the Eagles. At some point they
won't have one of those years where everybody performs at
their best and they don't get any injuries to their

(04:54):
most important players. So it's a year of hope. It's
a year that's interesting. It's a year where the packers
have done a couple of technically unpacker like things, like
drafting a wide receiver in the first round. It's a
year where you can no longer use the you know,
we're young, we don't have the experience argument. So is

(05:16):
this the year or is it the year where people
go like, Yeah, this this thing is not gonna work
and let's figure something else out. Uh, we'll get to
that with Aaron Aguler and Niggler. He's gonna join us,
co founder of Chie's Head TV. He'll join us right
here on set in ten minutes. Uh, we do need
to discuss the terrible shooting in New York City where

(05:40):
gunman came in looking for the NFL offices and for
the most part shoots up the wrong floor and uh,
and people have tragically passed away. Yeah, there's there's definitely
the I don't know if it's what's the word, guys,
not juxtaposition, it's you're pulled in opposite directions here here

(06:01):
where I am at Packer camp in the shadows of
lambeau Field. You're celebrating the NFL. On the other hand,
there's the darker side to the league where I know
this wasn't a former NFL player, but it is still
the discussion of football and what it does to the
brain and what it has done for hundreds of years
to people who play football. And we can sit there

(06:23):
and rightfully say, hey, they're professional athletes, they sign up,
they're they're they're playing a kid's game and making a
king's ransom for money. But over the past fifty years,
did high school college football players know they were signing
up to potentially have this type of damage done to
the brain? I would think the answer is no. And

(06:47):
as much as you could sit here and go like, hey,
if your brain's giving that much issue, you want to
bring it up with the NFL people, you want them
to study it. Why not just go to the NFL
offices without a gun and just say hey, I'm a
former football player, can you find me help. But again,
if you're suffering CTE or something that feels like it
might be ct your brain is probably not working correctly,

(07:10):
so you don't make the correct type of processing decisions.
All right, I don't know, it's just sad, there's no
other way to say it. And that's at the Blackstone
Building and I mistakenly thought, okay, wait, CBS, were you
in Blackstone or black Rock? They were in Blackrock. I'm
texting my CBS friends like, are you guys okay? Anybody

(07:33):
who knows, anybody who works in midtown called them yesterday,
Are you guys okay? Just so sad and scary that
when these terrible mass shootings that affects anybody, but now
it affects sports and we feel like we got to
talk about it. And then it's CTE and the dark
side of football. I don't know, you know, you're left

(07:54):
in a weird, precarious situation. Let's get back to talking football.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
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Speaker 1 (08:04):
Radio stutgott Leap Show, Fox Sports Radio, and we're live
here at Packers Camp. We're actually across the street from
Packers Camp at on the sixth floor of the Legacy Hotel.
And Rob Demowski kind of just stop by whether this.
Of course, Rob has covered the Packers all Green Bay

(08:25):
sports since ninety seven. He covers it for ESPNNFL Nation,
and I think it's one of the things that I
knew covering college basketball for a long time is you'd
walk into a gym and watch practice and they go like,
that team looks different than all the other teams that
I've seen. They look like a championship temp. Have you
experienced that during your time of covering the Packers, that

(08:47):
the championship caliber teams look differently than the others?

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Yes, except for the year that they won the Super
Bowl with Rogers, they didn't look like one that year.
I mean that team was like eight and six with
two games to go and had to win out to
make the playoffs, and then they go on the playoff run.
So just because you don't look like one sure doesn't
necessarily mean you are, and vice versa. I will say
the thing that strikes me about this team, Doug, is
that it's a really young team that has played a

(09:13):
lot of football. Like they were the youngest team in
the football two years ago. They went nine to eight
and won a playoff game and had the forty nine
ers beat until the very end of that divisional game.
Last year, second again the youngest team in football. They
win eleven games. They flame out in the playoffs. But
like to me, it's one of those groups where they're
still really young but they're not but they're not an experience. Yeah,

(09:34):
and that goes a long way. And this experience goes
a long way in this league.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Well, and the youth goes a long way because still
hungry for that big the big contracts. Yep, but also
you get hurt less often. You think more energy in
an eighteen eighteen game schedule, you know, all of the
eighteen week schedule, all those things. And Lafloor gets actually
gets to open the season here for the first time,
first time, but it's no easy open with Detroit. No,

(09:58):
and think about this last year, Doug, they won eleven games,
they won one game in the NFC North and the
one game they won, yeah, they won on a block
field goal. I mean, they're they're blackfield go away from
being oh to six and now they they play their
backups against the Bear they did last year and still
they should have. That was like a miracle for the
Bears to win that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
But I mean the point is that they know that
it starts with the NFC North and and you know,
you can say that fine or whatever, but like the
NFC North is, you know, it's Detroit has been as
good as anybody the last couple of years.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yes, okay, but Detroit loser.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Lose both coordinators, you know.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
And they lost some players to Minnesota third quarterback in
three years and he's unproven. And Chicago is Chicago, you know,
first time head coach who everybody thinks is awesome, but
it is just the first time.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
That's why I think things are lining up a little
bit for the Packers this year. Now they've got to
take care of you know, you can't go one to
five in the division and and get a home game
in the in the playoffs. That's the whole thing to
the last couple of years. They haven't had home games
in the playoffs. They haven't played at Land be Fit.
They had to go to Dallas. Now they kicked Dallas's
bud down there. They had to go to San Francisco
in the second round. Last year, they have to go

(11:06):
to Philly. Like there were like three teams that they
couldn't beat last year. It was Detroit, Minnesota, and Philly. Right,
they probably could beat a lot of people, but you
got to get those people here in January to make
it count because you know, at this point, as you know, Doug,
they don't put up banners for you know, division championships.
They put up banners for Super This place called the

(11:27):
number is thirteen. So the new locker room in the
hallway to the new locker room that they just built,
there's a banner for every year that they've won a championship,
starting in nineteen twenty nine. The last one is twenty ten.
The one right next to it is empty, right, and
and a couple of their players looked at it as
like they noticed that, right, like that's new this year,
there's an empty banner there. They are talking about Super Bowl.

(11:50):
It's they're not shying away from the expectations. I mean, heck,
the GM in this season opening press conference a week
ago says, you know, we've won a lot of regular
season games around here, but it's time we start winning
some playoff games and making a run. And I think
everyone in the organization understands that that's where they're at
because the window, you know, the window is not a
big one even if you have a quarterback that's really good.

(12:12):
And look, this is a big year for Jordan Love too.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Well, let's talk about Jordan Love. Two years ago, it was, hey,
he can actually play quarterback, right because the expectations were
so low in your one last year he had gotten
a new contract and you know, people can say it's
a step back. I don't know, second year starting quarterbacks
right away to got hurt, but he did. He had

(12:36):
the tendency to try and force something kind of far
of like and throw some interceptions. Seemed to clean it
up a lot late, but they had injuries late which
also derailed. Now it's like, okay, it's your team. We
drafted you a wide receiver, you know the system, You've
played two and a half years at quarterback as starting

(12:56):
quarterback of the Packers. Now it's his time. Does he
have it in him?

Speaker 6 (13:00):
Like?

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Is he a championship caliber quarterback?

Speaker 5 (13:02):
He's got the demeanor for it in terms of not
being rattled, but does he have the that extra year?

Speaker 1 (13:09):
That thing right?

Speaker 2 (13:10):
And the thing I don't know how you describe it.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Well, it's like you can't describe like Pat Mahomes can
for quarters one through three be badly outplayed by a
bunch of other quarterbacks and like what and then you
turn it like wait, the Chiefs just won the game.
How'd that happen?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (13:24):
And so the thing with Love he has he has
the baseline for everything. He's smart, he understands what to do.
But does he have that extra gear where when you
have a two minute drill and the game is on
the line, is he gonna take you down? Like Farv
and Rogers? You know, Rogers early in his career didn't
have a lot of those, right, So first year especially, Yeah,

(13:46):
So so those kind of developed too. And I think
you know, the expectation is that Love will do it.
I do think you mentioned it getting him a first
round receiver. Matthew Golden has been really good so far,
and you hate would better be like you don't wait
twenty three years to draft. That's a lot of pressure
on totally, like a lot of pressure. And what if
they get what? Hey, what's our guy? Jay stew In,

(14:06):
I'm forgetting right now? Johnson the guy uh with uh
from TCU with the Chargers.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Who Quinton Johnston he couldn't buyer? What's his name?

Speaker 6 (14:17):
Quin Johnston?

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Quinton Johnson? Right? I mean Quint Johnson couldn't catch a
cold in Lambeau And now last year he had some
good games but it's like, dude, I you're gonnadrat the
first roll under with the Packers, he better be a ball.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
And he's lived up to it.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
Like I mean, he catches the ball easily, like you
can just you know, I've been I don't I croup
around basketball, but I've been around natural football. You can
see a guy who catches it with ease. He catches
it with ease. He and and today they had to
play the first time in six practices that he's actually
just ran by somebody. I mean, he's made plays. Today,
he just turned it upfield and ran by somebody and

(14:55):
Love hit him for a fifty four yard touchdown. That
stuff today, that was you know, every day I kind
of see things that I hadn't seen from him the
day before. Now, let's see what happens the first time
he goes over the middle and gets drilled in the chest.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Okay, Josh Jacobs really good first year, But there had
to be a reason that the Raiders weren't gonna bring
him back on a long term deal, right, and that
had to be the ability to do it consecutive year.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
And he had come off not so great season before,
missed some games.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
But that was really the only season.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
His last year with the Raiders was really the only
season that he had major you know, availability issues. But
you know, I think maybe people realize that for what
we saw last year with Saquon Barclay, Josh Jacobs, Derrick Henry,
maybe you should pay running backs.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
You know, they weren't paying running backs.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
I'm gonna just I'm gonna I'm gonna stop you right there,
because I don't think anybody said don't pay running backs.
It was don't pay running backs for three years guaranteed,
right right right, It's like, yeah, we'll pay it.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
And if you look pay for three years. Here, if
you look at the Packers deal, it's a four year deal,
but it's really a two year deal, right. So, and
you know, he had thirteen hundred yards last season, and
you know, I don't know that you can just automatically
pencil him in for thirteen hundred yards, but he added
something to the offense that they didn't have a threat.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Of that before.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
And you know, maybe he rushes for a thousand yards
this year, but that doesn't mean he won't be as
impactful on the offense because they've got other things that
they can rely on.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Okay, what about the defense and pressuring the passer.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
That's the big question. We had Sports Center here for
the Fifty States and Fifty Days thing on Friday, and
Ryan Clark was with us. And Ryan Clark looked at
Lucas van Ness, who was their first round pick a
couple years ago, and said, man, look at the physical
traits that guy has. I said, well, it's two years
and he hasn't really made any plays yet. Now he

(16:36):
made a couple of plays so far. Now with defensive lineman,
offensive lineman. They're not going to the ground right, So
you don't know exactly, but I bring him up because
that's an example of a guy they invested a first
round pick in that hasn't done anything yet, and they
didn't go out and address that position. You know, they
signed a cornerback, they didn't sign a pass rusher. You know,
it's a big question. Jeff Affley is a really good coach,

(16:58):
had a really big impact on the defenses year. But
his challenge this year is going to be to find
a pass rush somewhere because they didn't find it with personnel.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah they didn't, and everybody pushed them so hard to
draft a wide receiver you're like, yeah, it's great.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I had him picking a defensive end in my mock draft, but.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
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at the Legacy Hotel on Fox Sports Radio. What about Lafloor,
You know, he he kind of won the Battle of
the Wills with Rogers. Yep, he's been able to get

(17:36):
to the playoffs the past two years. It's not that
there's pressure, no, but again, kind of like you said,
like at some point.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
Yeah, he was thirty nine and ten his first three
years with two NFC Championship Game appearances. Since then, I
think he's like twenty eight and twenty three and is
one and two in the playoffs. Not that that's bad.
I mean there's a lot of NFL teams that would
like to have that run. But you know, in year seven,
sometimes the message gets old a little bit. Yeah, this

(18:05):
is your seven that's isn't it crazy? And the other
thing people don't realize, like, you know, how this team
is structured from an ownership standpoint, It doesn't have one.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
It's a stockholder. Blah blah blah. That whole story has
been told the bunch.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
But this year they have a new president because Mark Murphy,
the previous president, was retired at age seventy. That's the
organization by laws. If this was another team and there
was an ownership change, all we'd be talking about was
is this guy going to keep the coach? Is he
going to keep the GM? They have a new president
here ed policy.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Now.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
He's been with the team for a while, but he
didn't hire these guys. He didn't hire the coach, he
didn't hire the GM, and he didn't say, you know
that they better have a good year. But if I'm
those guys, I'm kind of looking over my shoulder, going, okay,
I got a new boss.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
You know, this might be an important year for me.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
I tell people all the time. The cool thing about
lambeau Field is you can sit in a different place
and have a different experience. You know, you watched press
box press.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Potch during the game field beforehand.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Okay, but your kids and family they come to the games.
What do you think the best place to sit is?

Speaker 5 (19:06):
My kids are spoiled, man, they don't come unless it's
fifty yard line or we got courtside seats at the
Rest Center.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
So there's they're spoiled.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
They don't. They don't decide between lower bowl or or
club seats.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Honestly.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Yeah, those guys are as you know, they're basketball kids.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
I think people call me all the time said, hey,
I got tickets to the game. Now my kids are
in the gym this afternoon.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
No, you can get so much done when there's when.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
My wife used to go to the grocery store all
the time.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
The best I went to seven of the games. The
only one didn't go to it was I was then
I actually.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
Thought ESPN we should do a story on like Sunday
Countdown about what it's like in Green Bay everywhere else
but the stadium.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
You'll love this, okay. So that they were we were
getting ready to play Perdue Fort Wayne last year, and uh,
we were going to play them at four o'clock, and
then the NFL moved the game I remember to four o'clock.
So we moved the game to new here at the
Rest Center. So the coach of Fort Wayne calls me,
not happy about it, all, says unprofessional. They have a

(20:05):
charter flight. I'm like, just move up your charge.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
You know, what do you want to do?

Speaker 1 (20:07):
He's like, He's like, what's the difference. They're playing on
the road. You know, they're not playing at Lamba. They're
playing on the road. Just play the game, I said,
with all due respect, like the Packers are playing. He's like, yeah,
well you know, uh, there's not Oakland. Oh there he
goes to Oakland Detroit. He starts saying, like we all
these other teams have NFL teams in their market. Is like,

(20:28):
are they in Green Bay? Because I can't get anybody
who work the scoreclock if the Packers are Packers playing
the Vikings yet, Like what are we talking?

Speaker 5 (20:34):
The funny thing is most of the guys who run
the clock and the shot clock and all that at
your games work the chain game.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yes at Lambo, Yes, it's all same guys.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Correct, same people, same people.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
It's a different place and it's special in that regard.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Okay, if you're telling somebody from out of town where
to go to eat on a Packer week, where.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Would you go?

Speaker 5 (20:56):
I mean, you're the peer guy. You going to Orsetta
Hotel is really good? You need hotel. It's been there
about one hundred and some years. Packers players used to
live in the hotel above it, like it's got some
great history. That place is unbelievable. I mean we're sitting
out here looking at lambeau Field. There's ten places right here.
If you want the Packer experience. Yeah, but to me,

(21:17):
go go to your place, to the Iron Duck right
to go to Rusty Pizzeria.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
I do, like that's the opposite side of where you are.
That's it. Yeah, place, get.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
It, Doug. Like I grew up in Chicago. It takes
an hour to get in.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Fifteen minutes, like fourteen everybody says fourteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
If you notice that, Well, unless the bridge is up
and you get stuck.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
On the river, fourteen minutes. Any anywhere to get it?

Speaker 2 (21:39):
If?

Speaker 6 (21:40):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (21:41):
October twenty sixth they go to Pittsburgh, Okay, yeah, Sunday
night football?

Speaker 2 (21:47):
What like?

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Where is Aaron Rodgers for Packer fans? In your mind?
I think it's different than five. I think when Farv
left here, fans wanted Brett Favre to still be here.
I think when Aaron Rodgers they were read, they were done,
they were ready to be done. And not because I
just think it was all the extra stuff going on
around him. Not that they didn't respect him as a player,

(22:10):
but I just think the feeling was that Brett Favre
was always one of us. Aaron Rodgers was one of
us because he was a good player, and then beyond that,
that's probably it. Yeah. It is weird though that so
many people are left with that same feeling. And you
could make the case like in terms of as a person,
there's probably more redeeming qualities in many ways that Aaron

(22:31):
as opposed to Brett. Right, Brett seems like a better
time to hang around, but Aaron there's a lot of
thought and everything he does whenever.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Yeah, if you're a guy who likes to sit at
the bar and tell stories, you want to hang out
with Brett. If your guy who wants to talk philosophical
why are we here?

Speaker 2 (22:47):
What is the planet?

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (22:48):
What is life? Ben Rodgers is your guy?

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Where's Jordan love hitting that?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
We don't know yet.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
I mean he's really really nice, but quite honestly, right
now and probably by design, he's a little boring. He
hasn't let us in. Most of them are well, it's
funny real quick. I'm sure we gotta go but no,
we got time but real quick. Last year I was
talking to Josh Myers, who was their center last year,
about how different it is to have a guy like
Love who doesn't throw up his hands when a receiver

(23:13):
drops a pass, doesn't get on the offensive lineman, it
doesn't get on the center when he snaps it over
their head, and he goes, well, let's wait.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
And see what Jordan's like in thirteen years, because you know.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
You know, if you last that long and you're that good,
you're probably gonna, you know, do some things that people
don't you know, that people don't really like. And that's
just that's the nature of quarterbacks. That's the nature of
guys that have success in this league and have been.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Around a long time.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Fellow Wisconsin i at Dan Byer has one for well.

Speaker 7 (23:43):
I wanted to test the waters with Rob and see
if he has experienced this as well. I'm born and
raised in Wisconsin, and all of my aunts call the
quarterback by their first name, Yea, So it was never
it was never far for Rogers, it was always Brett
or Aaron. And I don't think any other fan base
does that with their fans. It's just to me That's

(24:05):
what always stood out. How do you think Aaron's gonna do?
How do you think Brett's gonna do?

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (24:09):
I think and I think that's locally Dan, that that's true.
But I don't have people from out of town asking me, hey,
what's you know? What was Aaron?

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Like? It was always what was Rogers?

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Like?

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Sure that was far Like, but yeah, you're right, I
mean Brett, Brett was Brett, you know.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
And this is such a unique The whole thing is
incredibly unique, right, I mean, even the fact that we
all found out how much NFL teams make with the
revenue share was because of the packer, right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
The rest of the owners hate the fact that the
packers have to disclose that the revenue sharing was.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Four hundred and whatever there was this year.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
Yeah, I mean, but the publicly owned the bizarre thing
that I tried to explain to people, and I still
can't understand it.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
My dad was in the financial business.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
And there's no money, yes, and you buy a Shriff's dock,
you get nothing. They're buying they're buying up all the
lane there. But it's technically a nonprofit like is it
a nonprofit or not for profit?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Again?

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I'm a sports No where does all the money. It's
a great, it's a great but like somewhere there's well
they also they REDI they keep redoing the stadium.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Is and I mean I go to other training camps
and other stadiums and this is this is pretty good.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
No, They've done an amazing job, an amazing job. But
I think part of it is they feel like they
have to do it because it's always hard to land
free agents here.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
That doesn't doesn't work in the market. You know, it's
not a place a destination place.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
I will push back on like all the guys like
Nate Hobbs they signed from the Raiders, and you know,
we ask him what he thinks the Green Bay goes, well,
there's nothing.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
To do here. Well, there's plenty to do here. I
do push back on that a little bit there.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Well, it's also like, okay, first of all, when you're
in an NFL season, what do you have time for? Right?

Speaker 2 (25:49):
And then you don't live here in the off season anyway.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
And and by the way, if you are here, but
if you're here in the off season, here in the summer,
it's beautiful, it's amazing, you know. Now it might not
He might not play golf, right, he might not want
to be on the water. He might not fish. If
you don't those those things, Yeah, okay.

Speaker 5 (26:02):
Well then you take a limo to Milwaukee like fire
from Frankie Winners and Mark Schimurr and all those guys
used to do every Monday night before their day off
on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Well, I get, I can't comment on that.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I have heard.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
I have heard that, have heard the stories. But yeah,
I mean again, like I always, we use that as
the if you say there's nothing to do, you're not looking,
this is not your place. Yeah, you know, we got
three gyms, we got a weight room, yep, And what
are you here for?

Speaker 5 (26:28):
Well, it's like you're one of your predecessors. Todd k
Walchak would always ask players do you play golf? And
if they said yes, he goes, you're not coming. I
don't watch you.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
I got my guys play golf. I liking to play
golf because they play with the donors and the donors well.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
That's well, that's There was one kid that they had
as a walk on. This is twenty years ago. He
was a pretty good player, really could shoot it from
Sturgeon Bay. Actually went to like Minnesota Duluth and then
came here and could really shoot it. And coach Kawalchak said,
if you put your golf clubs in my basement this
summer and just go in the gym and and really
get out after it, I'll give you a scholarship. And

(27:01):
he goes, no, I'll just I'll just stay as a
walk on. I had my ill the guys at golf
throw up in Door County right there you go, So
I had play for Mark Murphy. I had a kid,
Ryan Wade, last year, six year senior, played for three
coaches and he had him work out at Green Bay
Country Club and someone to make extra money because he's
a walk on. But you know, we had donors take

(27:22):
him out like a kid loves to play golf, Like,
go play golf with him, it's great. And one of
them led him having a job selling pharmaceuticals. That's what
it's all about, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
But yeah, I hear guys go there's nothing to do,
like did you come here to play football? Did you
come here to hang out? Right? Which which is it?

Speaker 5 (27:36):
And those aren't you know, those are the kind of
guys that makes you tell if you want those guys
or not.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Right, speaking of golf buyers, looking for somebody in his
in his foursome. What's the date on that twenty fourth
of August.

Speaker 7 (27:47):
Yeah, I'll be back. Yeah, that's the we're at.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Well, I can set him up in a night if
you want to play, I gotta I got an Elite
camp that that day.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
I've only played Dan fifty four rounds this year, so
I feel like I got to get This is the
first year my kids haven't had AAU.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Basketball and like, yeah, it's the best.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
I've played more golf this year than I have in
the last like three suppers combined.

Speaker 7 (28:07):
I play less golf in California because you can always
play tomorrow and in Wisconsin you can't.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
And yes, agreed, Rob, you're the best man. I appreciate
stop by. It's great to see Rob DeMoss. He's got
two shooters in the family. He's joined us here on
the Doug outlet.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
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Speaker 1 (29:13):
It's funny. Once you said you would come on today
after Packers practice Doug out Leap Show live here at
dead at grabya Packers training camp. I started to go, like, wait,
I've been. I've had Aaron on for like, I don't know,
a decade.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
Maybe we just saying to your buddy there, we've been.
I used to come to your studio in New York.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, yeah, when I was at CBS right, so, I
think the first time I had you on might have
been ESPN right at the end, and then CBS and
now in the Fox and forever you were like, hey,
come out and and I was like, oh, get there.
I went to seven games last year. I was like,
I like season tickets with that. Ever, that was great,

(29:50):
it was, it was awesome, and it's it's interesting there's
such a like Kansas City kind of a college spirit,
especially in the Lower Bowl and different places you sit
in Lambeau is a different.

Speaker 6 (30:04):
Experience, especially if you go to the South End zone
with some of the newer seats. It's a very different
vibe than what you're talking about. Right, Like down in
the old School Bowl, no bleach, Like it's just bleachers
everybody's but everybody's really into the ger in fairness.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
When I sat in Lower Bowl, it was the Texans game,
which is a great, great game. Weather was good, game
was good, crowd is amazing. The cold weather games. I
did sit in the club section and and everybody's like, so,
what's the club section? So it's indoors. No, but you
can go walk indoors.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
It's easy to get.

Speaker 6 (30:36):
Indoors, walk into doors the club seats.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
But the other part that I didn't know, I didn't
know everybody has these electric fests.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
Although that's all the rage now, Oh my gosh, that's
amazing and they are fantastic. Guy in California makes them.
They're phenomenal. It's so good.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
It is so I got all all kinds of the
tricks all right this year, Like I hate the super
Bowl or bust, but it does feel like maybe not
super Bowl bus, but man, you gotta be right there.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
And it's the expectation. It's certainly the expectation.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
And that's not unrealistic, right at all.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
I mean, here's the trick and when I'm fascinated to
find out kind of how they get there, if they
get there, they're very clearly and you know this, you've
watched the Packers operate for a long time. They're very
clearly all in on draft and developed to the point
where they know they need at least two or three
guys internally to become maybe not superstars, but field tilters,

(31:32):
guys who make our difference makers. Right. I think we
saw glimpses of that last year with say Edrin Cooper,
the linebacker. You know, guys who the town's clearly there,
they've got a blossom. And whether you're talking about Matthew
Golden who's started camp on fire, or a guy like
Cooper like they need a handful of these guys to
become difference makers if they want to truly challenge for

(31:54):
a championship.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Can the pressure the passer?

Speaker 6 (31:57):
I think it's looking better so far. Now it's only
two days.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
That was dipping your toes, Like I don't know.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
I mean, look, they didn't really take any big swings
as far as augmenting the actual personnel. I know they
have a new defensive line coach, new I guess approach up.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Front, but which is what by that year we're.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
Gonna find out? Like that's that's the kind of thing.
That's why I come to camp, right it is, Like
I will say, Lucas van Ness has been a disappointment
two years into his pro career, but this start of
camp he has been the trademark, you know, quietly having
a good start to camp. You never want to say
that because inevitably then they kind of fall off the map,
or they get hur disappointed, they get hurt whatever. But

(32:37):
he I tell you what he had to play today
where he beat Rashid Walker in a way that he
was not doing two years ago or even last year.
And then he had another where he's in the backfield
slipped an attempted block, and they had Dobs on an
attempted end around. He grabbed him with one hand and
threw him on the ground, Like that's the kind of
thing you expected when you took him thirteenth overall, So

(33:00):
hopefully Green shoots there.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Finally, can they run the football?

Speaker 6 (33:04):
I don't think there's any doubt they're gonna continue to
run the ball. I would love to see them maybe
ease off on running the ball a little bit. I mean,
last year they were in the league leaders I think
top five as far as running the ball on first down.
Now you look at that top five, it's all teams
that were really successful. I understand, you know why Matt
leaned into it specifically with Josh Jacobs. He's outstanding, right,

(33:26):
But you know when Bill Wolf said famously, the best
down to throw the ball and is on first down.
I would like to see, you know, the floor, let
love go to the air a little bit more on
first down. But yeah, they're gonna run the ball and
they're gonna be really effective.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Aeronegla my guest. He's the co founder and founder of
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this the Doug Out Leap Show where live at Packers
camp here in Green Bay, Wisconsin. I ask about Josh
Jacobs because I'm trying to figure out what was missing
that they didn't want to give him the long term

(33:59):
deal with the Raiders. Great, remember the Lakers Raiders were
in turmoil. They had question Okay, it's the Raiders, but
you know, like the SAQ one thing with the Giants
was the same thing with all these guys. It wasn't
they didn't want to give them a year or even
two years. It was they didn't want to give him
three three guarantees. They want to give him three guarantees

(34:19):
because guys always break down, especially after.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
A and that you talk about Jacobs specifically, that was
the issue with the Raiders because he came off that
season where he led the league in rushing, and then
that final year with the Raiders. Now he didn't have
a whole lot to work with upfront.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
I mean that's what not just that, but they were
always behind you run the football.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
But he wasn't as effective. He certainly had a down
quote unquote year. But man, the Packers essentially swooped in
and made that change from Aaron Jones to Josh Jacobs,
and I contend they got better.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
They got but I don't think they got better catching
it out of the backfield. Aaron Jones is better at that.
They don't utilize him like I got it, But they
definitely got better in between the.

Speaker 6 (34:57):
Runs, certainly. But yeah, he will be he will continue
to be a focal point of the offense. There's no doubt.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Okay, then you have then you have Jordan Love you
do right who they supplied with a wide receiver who,
by all accounts is living up to anyone's expected.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Nick.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
You can't say he doesn't have the experience anymore. Nope,
can't say he's young anymore.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
Nope.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
It's not a new system. He's been the system for years.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
He knows that system probably better than anybody in that
building except for Lafloor.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Do we know what he's like under this type of pressure?
And when I say pressure, I'm not talking about defensive pressure,
just the overall like, hey, dude, we love yet it's.

Speaker 6 (35:38):
Time to carry the team, but it's time. It's interesting
because I do think Brian Gudicunst has very specifically tried
to change course in the sense that you know, four
thirty years here in Green Bay, it has been about
the quarterback and all about the quarterback, and the quarterback
had to make things go and if he didn't, they
weren't winning games. Right. I think Brian is very intentionally

(36:00):
tried to create a team that doesn't need the quarterback
to be superman. But that said, it's still the NFL
is still twenty twenty five, and it still comes down
to quarterback play. And you know, yes, he had some
issues at wide receiver last year. They were in the
top of the league and drops, but certainly I think
Jordan would admit, you know, the injury certainly affected him
and he wasn't nearly as efficient as you'd like him

(36:21):
to be. But I'll tell you what here at start
of camp, he's fully healthy there from day one on
Lake last year, and to my eyes, he looks ready
to go, like he's certainly like you said, there's no
excuse as far as the weapons go, he's they've got
talent everywhere, and he looks in full command of the offense.
I mean, there's zero doubt that you talk about. There
was a play today where Musgrave's going over the middle

(36:43):
and he sat down. He was clearly supposed to keep going,
and you know, Jordan gave him a little not a
talking to, but certainly connected after the play and is like, look,
this is the coverage and you got to keep going.
Like he's in command, you know what I mean. So
I don't think Luke Mus text Luke and to ask him. Yeah, yeah,
he'll say Jordan, Jordan gave one of these. You gotta
be seeing what I see, you know. But yeah, there's

(37:05):
no doubt that this is Jordan's year, Like this is
the year he this is undoubtedly has to kind of
lead this team to at least championship contention.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah, tell me if this makes sense. It's like again
as a college but it's like I got a junior okay,
but his freshman year where when you're a young starting
quarterback and you're replacing Aaron Rodgers, like you do anything
well or like, oh my gosh, he's not terrible.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
Yeah thought it was going to back to the stone Age.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
And then he's like pretty good, you give him a
new contract. And then last year there are times which
you spectatia times like what are you doing? And then
you're like, well, okay, he's only again using using the
college noalogy only a sophomore.

Speaker 6 (37:44):
He got spoiled with Rogers. There's zero doubt. Yeah, there's
no doubt.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
YEA Well, it's like no one remembers like Farv.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
Coming up, thank you. I banged that drum all last
season because people were, you know, some of the he did.
He threw some boneheaded interceptions. But I'm like, does it
any would remember Farve second year as a starter Homegrod
almost pulled him for God's sake, you know. So it's
just I know we're in this age, this TikTok age
where everything is instant and gotta be now. But man,

(38:12):
just a little breathing, a little patience, and like I said,
I think this year is when it starts to pay off.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
With Jordan Love October twenty sixth Hell, yeah, now you've
lived this in a previous life, right when Farv came
back exactly now, Aaron's not coming back. Nope, it's in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
Was really pulling for him to sign with the Vikings
for that very reason.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Oh, it would have been so amazing. It's been so
it would have been so good amazing. Are you going
to the game.

Speaker 6 (38:37):
I'm not. We're we do a YouTube watch party each
and every game, and.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
So the almighty dollars is going to keep you.

Speaker 6 (38:42):
I got it, man, I have an audience, so there
there are expectations. You could zoom into the audience, but
be you know whatever that I will say, I don't
know what they call what they call it now, by
the way, I know I always call it three Verus Stadium.
I know it's that.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
It was for a while, but then heinz.

Speaker 6 (38:56):
No, it's Azure or something or other. I can't remember now,
but I still call it three Rivers because that's you know,
you go there and that's the vibe, like it's so
cool on Rivers again. And so I've lived here for
a calendar year. Nice I could tell you the people
that I come into contact with it is still very
mixed on erin right.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Most of it is it was just time, just like yeah.

Speaker 6 (39:20):
I mean, when it comes to the football stuff, a
billion percent, it was absolutely time. It was probably time
the year before. But I do think there was some
internal struggle there and they certainly, you know, wanted to
keep them around for another year while Jordan got more
kind of developed. But yeah, I mean, it's just I
don't want to say, it was like pulling a band
aid off, but it was absolutely time to turn the page,

(39:40):
like there's it. And that's that feeling around the fandom too.
I talk about this a lot on CHIESAIDV, where for
so long they were kind of banging their heads against
the wall or just holding on with their fingertips to
the attempt to get back to the super Bowl with Erin,
and came very close in twenty twenty. But man, those
last two or three year it was just like everything

(40:01):
was a struggle to just try and try and you
could just never close the deal. It was such a
breath of fresh air to move on, to turn the page.
And I think it was good for Aaron too. I
don't think, you know, he really had much more to prove,
and he knows how the packers operate because he went
through it with bread.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
You just shouldn't shows the jets. Well, it's just one
of those like that was like one it does. It
draws the instant far of comparisons obviously.

Speaker 6 (40:25):
I mean, how amazing was that?

Speaker 1 (40:26):
It was amazing.

Speaker 6 (40:27):
I'm waiting he was thinking about that and then he
want to go to the vikings, like what is going
on here? It's like an episode of Black Mirror.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
It was what's black Mirrors?

Speaker 6 (40:34):
That is it's a great show Mirror.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Do you guys know Black Mirror? I don't as anybody
Sam Jay Steele. Are you guys familiar with Black Black Mirror?

Speaker 6 (40:43):
Yep, I've seen one episode. It's very good. That one
episode is very good. That one episode he saw it
was great.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
How many seasons, God, there's like eight or not? Like
sound it must be really good if it's last that phenomenal.

Speaker 6 (40:54):
But it sounds like an episode so like I have
as preposition to watch it, but I'm I love it.
It's great.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
The division, Yes, Bears actually might have hired somebody decently.

Speaker 6 (41:08):
They finally figured it out.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Although I don't know quarterback like i've.

Speaker 6 (41:12):
Been, Caleb Williams is going to be really good. And
I know all the headlines coming out of Chicago as
a how he's struggling early. He's learned in a new
system like that. If there's new offensive linemen like he'll
he's talented as hell. He's gonna figure it out and
he's going to be good.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Unfortunate vikings you it feels like that guy can coach
any quarterback. But now you have a rookie quarterback coach,
great coach, but but he does coach a quarterback who
did not throw the football once in the second half
against Penn State.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
Like I think J. J.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
McCarthy's good. But if he's that good, like, wouldn't she
let him throw the ball?

Speaker 6 (41:44):
Well State? And now he's sat out of football for
a year? You know, it's like he's It's that situation
in particular is such a wild card because I do
think they're clearly very talented and they have all the
horses they need if the quarterback can produce, you.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Know, yeah, and then you have Detroit, who has you know,
come from nowhere to being a super Bowl right, but
they did lose a lot and they lost their coordinators,
and you know, it'll be interesting to see what that looks.

Speaker 6 (42:14):
I love that the Packers are opening up with them
week one. First time Matt's been able to open at home,
which is kind of wild to think about. It's a
first home opener under LA floor, like season opener at Lambeau.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
It's such a we we mentioned it, and I remember
we did some on the podcast as well. Doug Gottlieb
show Fox Sports for av Nagular joined me chie s
Head TV. There's there's two things about lambeau Field. Again,
I don't profess to be an expert.

Speaker 6 (42:39):
You are an expert.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
That two things that I think people don't know. It's
so far is this way, believe it or not, it's
this way. And that where you sit is a completely different.

Speaker 6 (42:49):
Experience, absolutely true.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
You know, if you sit in the lower bowl, you're
in it. There's no cell phones out, there's no selfies,
there's no nothing. It's about the game and nothing else.
And when and you better high five that dude next
to you. Yeah, and then it is a communal expression.
And then okay, and but the other part is what
time of year you go to a game. It's a

(43:11):
completely different vibe too. I went to the Colts game,
which was the opener last year, and it was like
eighty three. Well, I mean for eighty.

Speaker 6 (43:19):
Three Green Bay, Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
It was hot.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
It was it was hot, and people were like falling out. Uh.
Then you go Christmas time when you're playing the Saints
and you better be better be bundled. It may change. Okay,
So how does early season against the Lions set that
whole tone for the season.

Speaker 6 (43:38):
Well, what's interesting about that? Matchup is how well Dan
Campbell's squad has done against Matt Lafleur's team, no matter
what the personnel is. I mean Rogers last game where
all they got to do is win that game get
in the playoffs, and they can't do it. Campbell has
been a thorn in Matt's side. And outside of I

(43:59):
want to say that Thanksgiving game where they've took the
deep shot to Watson first play the game and they
end up winning that one. Outside of that game, Campbell's
had his number. So I think for Matt there's probably
a very real sense of I not only have to
get off on the right foot it's a divisional game
home opener, but man, Dan Campbell has been the bully.
He's got to turn that around. Start And that's great

(44:21):
that that's the challenge week one.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
All right, give me one Green Bay Packer that unless
you've come to camp, you don't know how excited you
should be about this player.

Speaker 6 (44:32):
Oh man, there are a couple guys. I'll go with
n Zero Stackhouse, who's an undrafted defensive tackle out of Georgia.
He has been outstanding all every practice I've watched, I
mean from the start with the unpadded stuff to now
the pads are on the last couple of days, he
had what would have been two big sacks today. He
was stuffing everything at the line of scrimmage yesterday. I

(44:53):
mean for a team that lost, you know, a couple
of the component components in their run defense last year,
you get an undress a kid who looks this good, uh,
and the zero stackhouse looks like the real deal, And
I expect he'll a good chance he'll make the fifty
three and he'll contribute.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
I think the most important information you can share. I
can because I can give my Hey, if I'm coming
to town for a Packer game, because it is it's
kind of a national landmark. You do, you'll sit there, Well,
you'll be at a game and you're like, wait, I'm
at Lanbowfield. But there'll also be somebody from LA someone
from New York, somebody from overseas list. You know a

(45:28):
lot of people are like, I gotta go to a
Packer game. If you were setting up somebody's itinerary, because
I'll take mine, would be I would stay here Legacy hotel.

Speaker 6 (45:38):
Hotel can't go wrong here.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Right totally?

Speaker 6 (45:41):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (45:41):
And six floor you come up to the crest. I
think it's like the best view bar Saturday night for
a game. Where would you send somebody to eat and
to hang and to drink when they're in uh when
when they're in the Green.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
Bay, Wisconsin for a game. I will plug the YouTube
channel and say make sure you check out Aaron Negler's
top five things to do in Green Bay. As a
friend of mine pointed out, most of it is just bars.
So you know, the drunkest town in America, right, it
is always one of them, no doubt about it. But
I will say I love all the old school stuff
like Nicky's Lions Lion's Head. Into Peer is like a
spot where like the packers in Lombardes era used to

(46:18):
go and have a few after practice, right. I love
that vibe. The place like that is awesome to peer For.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
People who not from green Bay, it's like the southern
south eastern most suburbs sort.

Speaker 6 (46:30):
Of of green Bay, kind of attached.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
There's like a loop of freeways that surround the inner
part of the city and then the outer the outer
rim the south eastern side is up here ahead.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (46:42):
I love that spot. There's a restaurant you're talking about eating.
There's a restaurant north north north part of town that's
called Blue. That Corey Banking, my co founder.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
That's not north, that's south.

Speaker 6 (46:53):
Is it south?

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Yeah, that's in Bellevue where, yes, I that was that's
my too.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I love that.

Speaker 6 (47:00):
Corey took me there, and it's phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
It's really it's really good.

Speaker 6 (47:03):
Coming from New York, I'm like, all right, Nor restaurant stand.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
It's really good. It's really good, really good. And you
don't know you're in Green Bay.

Speaker 6 (47:16):
Not really because it's outside enough that like.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Well it's it's like it's like built in like almost
like a colonial type, almost a colonial house. And then
you walk in sall wooded.

Speaker 6 (47:26):
I will say, though this is true. When we went
there a couple of years ago, I was, you know,
I get so conscious about what I'm wearing out and
about like, you know, I'm out in New York. I'm like,
if I go out to eat, if I go out
to eat, I want to look nice. So we're a
collared shirt blah blah blah. And so I brought all
these clothes when I came to visit it, and we're
going to Blue. It's this nice restaurant. Oh yeah, okay,

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So I wear the stuff and Corey is like, what
are you doing? I'm like, I gotta look nice.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
We roll up.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
Guy in front of us making like asking for a
table is wearing a Megadeth T shirt. I'm like, yep,
I'm back in Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yes, and he probably owns like probably something as well, right,
and he's got a Mega shirt.

Speaker 6 (48:07):
Getting that spotted.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Okay, So we got a bar, we got a restaurant,
late night bar or or late night music.

Speaker 6 (48:14):
You know. And I'm in Green Bay. I'm not as
juiced in as I used to be. I will say though,
I will always look to see if hang ten is playing.
They're a local band that is phenomenal, Hang ten and
they just had a singles release just came out this
past Friday. Hang ten local band. They're awesome.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
OKAYD did not know that, but be on the lookout
training can't content.

Speaker 6 (48:35):
Oh yeah, right before I came over here.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Okay, it's good and you have top five things to do.
He's Aaron Agler. He's we've we've been friends forever, but
friends usually on the phone now in person. And I
moved to his town. And while I'm back at the
yard right that makes complete sense,