July 31, 2025 • 37 mins
On a Thursday edition of The Best of The Doug Gottlieb Show:Doug talks about the now-notorious picture of Lebron James, Maverick Carter and the agent of Nikola Jokic on a yacht in Europe, and how Lebron's new business venture shows us who he cares about.
In this week's version of "Don't Call It A Throwback, Thursday", Doug and the crew feature the year 2020.
Doug weighs in on Tom Brady's response to Scottie Scheffler. Doug welcomes NFL Analyst and prolific podcaster John Middlekauff onto discuss the headlines around the NFL.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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know we're playing today. Welcome in Hope. You made the
best of your day and you continue to do so.
We've got a great show for you planned, including who's
a better dad, Scottie Scheffler or Tom Brady. Uh Jay
(01:11):
Stu has one opinion. I have the polar opposite opinion.
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I say, dare Queen, and people were like, yeah, well
I might not have it because I'm trying to do
something with my body or I'm model which what I
what he eat, or there's not one in my town
or whatever. But I don't think there's anybody's like, you know,
I don't like look Drry Queen now protesting dairy Queen
(02:19):
would be very very lonely, very lonely.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yes, emmy, sorry, we are just starting the show. But
I was curious, what are your favorite what's your favorite
Blizzard combo?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I mean, I'm an oreo cookie guy, like put Puru
in there, but I again, they didn't ask me. They
asked him my favorite blizzard. What they didn't ask me
is what I like to order from DQ. Dipcne Oh yeah,
vanilla dip it in the chocolate.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
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Speaker 1 (02:43):
And by the way, again per Hay has got leave
my son who knows about chicken strips and chicken sandwiches
from every spot. He's DQ, he says, underrated. I was like,
I don't know where they rank in the rankings. It's like, no, no, no,
that the chicken strips or chicken fingers, whatever they call it,
they're all the same. They're fantastic at Q. So there
you go. There's your there's your DQ ed and everybody
else is not like yeah, I kind of do like DQ.
(03:05):
I may not have it, but I like it. No
one dislikes it. Okay, I'll give you somebody that people
do are. It's polarizing, like and dislike. Is Lebron James.
So there is this picture of Lebron Maverick Carter, his agent,
and Nikolae Jokich's agent on a boat and there's lots
of like, what are they talking about? Is Lebron going
(03:27):
to Denver? Is Yoki coming? To LA, what's going on? Then,
I don't know. It was yesterday or earlier today, it
was yesterday. It came out that the conversation was in
regards to Maverick Carter starting a league, some international league
where you have men's teams and women's teams and it'll
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be like Live Golf, only for the NBA. Like wow,
that's genius, right. Everybody takes an idea, and I like,
I don't don't know if Kudoba came first or if
Chipotle came first, but somebody stole somebody else's fast casual idea, right,
and then you look at all the fast cash places.
(04:10):
Then you guys have had kava, like kava came in,
Like I will do the Greek form of it. There
is an Indian food form of it. But as I
told you, no disrespect to my Indian brothers and sisters,
but I just I don't do Indian food. It's like
the only thing I don't do. I don't. I just don't.
It's just not my jam. But the bigger point is,
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like you know, I obviously Live has made a lot
of people a lot of money. It has broken through.
They have partnered with the PGA. No one knows you know,
what's going to happen to in the future. But a
lot of guys have gotten rich off it, and it's
it's interesting, and they try and do the kind of
rock and roll NBA introductions and try and spice it
up whatever. And golf, which can be seen as lame,
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is trying to be made cool by liv golf whatever.
Whether it's working or not working, it's still surviving. You
guys are still getting paid and so it's lasted this long,
so it has worked. But but I have a hypothesis
that I'd like to share with you, and you tell
me if it makes sense. Okay. Chris Prefett, by the way,
(05:17):
is filming in for Dan Byer's here. Hey, welcome and Chris,
of course you got Iowa, Sam and m A Man
Jay Stoo. Okay. So I think most people who watch
and cover the NBA are familiar and some people or
not that Lebron James has made it very very clear
he nearly wants to own an NBA team. He wants
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to own a Vegas expansion team. Vegas expansion team. And
many of you are driving along, you're sitting your cubicle,
or you listen to the DG Show. Maybe you're listen
to us on the app and you're like, yeah, I
remember something about that. Okay. So I think, first of all,
this this meeting very easily could have happened in secret,
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and no no one knows about it. Why would somebody
take a picture and then put it out on social media?
Because they want you to know it's happening, right, that's inarguable.
I don't have to talk to somebody in Lebron's camp
or Yokich just camp to know that the reason it
was out on social media is they want you to
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know what's happening. Why would they want you to know
what's happening. Well, there's only two possible reasons. One, Lebron
was told he's not getting a team, which is altogether possible,
maybe even likely, because as deep as Lebron's pockets are,
they're not that deep. They're not that deep. The Lebron
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being worth a billion dollars it sounds good, it's very
likely to not be real because I'm sure a lot
of it is tied up in Nike stock and in
other stocks. Not that that doesn't count in your terms
of your evaluation, but I think a lot of it
is based upon his personal brand, his personal value, not
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how much actual cash he has or how much how
many actual assets he has and whether not those assets
equal out to a billion dollars. Remember NBA teams. We
just watched the Lakers go for ten billion dollars billion,
So I know NBA players, and Lebron seems to be
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the richest of them, but that pales in comparison to
the guys that are in the in the financial financial markets.
So there's one of only two possibles that I've come
up with. Either one, he was told he's not getting
a team and this is his way of going. Or two,
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he wants to leverage his way to getting a team,
and the only way to get leverage is if you
don't give me this team, I'm going to go out
and form this other league that's going to be in
competition with you, with the hopes of ultimately getting a
team that way. That's the only two possible solutions I
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can think of, or reasons I can think of why
Lebron would nullly have this meeting. Having the meeting, you
could take a meeting with anybody, but why do you
want to take a picture of it? Why do you
want people to know what it was about. Why do
you want to know? Why do you want to include
Nikola Jokic's agent in it. It's pretty obvious right that
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this is I'm sure they're going to sell it as
this is our next step. This is what we do
after we retire, is we own NBA teams. We force
expansion into Europe by putting together teams in Europe, and
then ultimately they joined the NBA. Or maybe it's because
we make them pay us, we make them give us
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a seat at the table, or maybe it's an fu
The issue with any league outside the end, in comparison
to golf is golfers, outside of their sponsorship money, if
they don't play well on Thursday and Friday, they don't
get paid. They don't get to hang around for Saturday
and Sunday. Whereas NBA players they're plenty well compensated. And
(09:15):
oh yeah, by the way, that money is based upon
TV deals, and a new league wouldn't have enough teams,
nor would have the star power to have those big
TV deals. And if the sale was, hey, we're gonna
launch with Lebron James, the problem is that by the
time Lebron James's contract expires, Say they start a new
league and he is the centerpiece of it, to be
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forty one years old, and it'll be playing against rummies,
and it will diminish all the things he did in
the NBA. It just will. That's the reality to it. Okay,
it'll diminish what he's done in the NBA. And the
last part and maybe the most important part to it
that this is my takeaway, and it may not sit
(09:59):
well with you, but I know it to be reality,
which is Lebron has never cared about Laker fans or
being a Laker. He clearly doesn't care about being a
Miami Heat and very likely doesn't care about being a
Cleveland Cavalier and what all that represents because he left
there twice, and conducting such a meeting and allowing your
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agent with a firm that you started to tweet out
that picture showing that you're trying to do harm to
the league that has helped make you into a billionaire,
only shows that Lebron James cares only about the relationships
of people he knew in high school. And that's it.
(10:40):
That's it. He cared about JJ Reddick and their relationship
he never would allowed his agent to go public and
say they're basically they're not a championship team. If he
cared about the Lakers, he wouldn't do so many of
the things he's done while being a member of the Lakers.
Who discussed this, is he cared about being a member
of the Miami Heat, he would have just left. Why
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they played in four NBA finals, it won two of them.
He shown no value, nor has he ever claimed that
as partner. You know, this is who Lebron is. It
definitely tracks he's somebody who doesn't actually care about anybody
outside of his inner circle. And again that's okay with
(11:26):
the exception of the fact that he desperately want to
be loved by everybody and cared for by everybody. But
those are really transactional relationships. So the big takeaways from
Lebron meeting with Jokic's agent is I think it's a
leverage play or an fu play because he was either
told he's not going to get a team, or he
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wants to try and force himself to getting a team,
and the only way he can do it is to
force his way by helping create this new league. The
miscalculation is that league has zero value unless it has stars,
and the best star would be Lebron James, who, don't
get me wrong, people would come out and watch in
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you know, if he's start trying to start a league,
people would watch, but they're not going to pay attention
to a league. And then at some point when your
best and most known player retires, then what you have nothing.
It feels like it's simply a leverage play in order
to get the NBA to give him that team in Vegas,
which they may or may not have during the next cycle.
(12:29):
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Scottie Scheffler said? Was that two weeks ago? Right? Here's
Scotty Scheffler a couple weeks ago talking about this is
(13:37):
before the Open Championship, by the way, talking about word
flight bounds.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
That's why I talk about families being my priority, because
it really is. You know, I'm blessed to be able
to come out here and play golf. But if my
golf ever started affecting my home life or whatever affected
the relationship I have with my wife or with my son,
you know, that's gonna be the last day that I
play out here for a living. You know, this is
not the be all end all. This is not the
most important thing in my life. And that's why I
rust with why is this so important to me? Because
(14:02):
you know, I would much rather be a great father
than I would be a great golfer. You know that
at the end of the day, that that's what's more
important to me.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Okay, so what makes a great father? Can you? Can
you be both? Right? Can you be both? Here's Tom
Brady on Scotty Scheffler. Oh, I'm sorry Tom Brady talking
about Scotty Scheffler. I thought this was super, super interesting
right where he he he just had a different perspective
(14:34):
on it, and one that just be honest, I kind
of share. He said. Scotty said he'd rather be a
better father and husband than a good golfer. My question
is why are those mutually exclusive? Now? Again, if I
was to go through it, I don't think they were,
but he said if there was ever a chance that
they were, that's when he would shut it down. But regardless,
sure they're different blocks on the pyramid, but they're part
(14:55):
of the same pyramid. They're connected. For instance, I think
being part of being a part of being a great father,
is an example of doing what it takes to take
care of your family. I choose to do it by
playing football, my dedication to the sport, the hours of practice,
the moments when I was laser focused. Those were times
when I believe I was doing the best possible thing
for my family and my kids by prioritizing my profession
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and teaching by example what it takes to be really
good at true job. But it takes a follow through
with commitments, what it takes to be a great teammate,
and showing them also by example that work is a
big part of all of our lives. I'll just give
the floor to you, Jay stew because you have a
very pointed criticism of Brady in this correct.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Yeah, it just doesn't It doesn't pass the smell test
to me. I think this is an easy thing to
say after I think it's the kind of a way
of justifying all the time spent away from your kids
that I was setting an example for them. This is
what I know about Tom Brady, And again, nobody knows anything.
Nobody was in their house other than the family, But
(16:00):
this is what I know. In the wake of the roast,
what did we hear? We heard the ex complaining that
he put his kids in that situation with the roast,
and we've heard Tom himself say I regret doing the
roast because of what was said about my family. So
(16:20):
it's just really strange to see him obviously internalize what
Scotty Scheffer said, like Tom took that personally and this
is his way of justifying it, that I spent all
that time away for my kids to be a great
example and that's part of being a great father. I
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just don't buy it.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You don't think that's part of being a great father.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
No, I don't believe that was a part of Brady's
motivation to be great. I think Brady is built differently
than Scheffler. Scheffler is unfulfilled by kicking people's ass. That
was something that was very fulfilling for Brady. They're just
built differently. But I think Brady kind of took it
personally what Scotti said.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Oh, I listen again when you when you've gone through
a divorce, and I have, so I can speak on
this one right, especially when you are you know, look,
I'm not Tom Brady. But similarly, in terms of there's
there's times in which you're away from home that most
dads are not away from home. Now, there's times which
you're home where most dads are not home either, but
no one chooses to recognize that. But I think you're
(17:31):
talking about and when we were talking about it off air,
you were talking about resentment and how his kids probably resent,
you know, those last couple of years of playing football
when he could have been with them. And my thought is, okay,
twofold one, you'll end up resenting your kids if you
turn down a great work opportunity for your kids. And secondly,
(17:52):
I just disagree with that your whole premise of it.
I think that's part of being a great dad. Yes,
you do, you know, And if I look back, there
should have been times in which I prioritize stuff. My
thing was I tried to get home as quickly as possible.
When I was done, I would take the last flight
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out in the first fight back, That's what I would do.
But no, I never said no to work opportunities because
I thought, I do. I agree, that's a good chance
to show your kids, Hey, my dad he grinds everything
we have is because he's gonna work. Now, do you
have to, at some point in off seasons and smart times,
(18:34):
say hey, I need to diut back, I need to
put my phone away. I need to be a human being. Sure. Sure,
maybe it's because I'm much more aligned with the Brady
perspective than the Scottie Scheffler perspective. But I think it's
completely unfair to think that's not being a good father. Right.
Every kid is different, every relationship is different, every job
is different. And oh yeah, by the way, like the
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thing about Tom Brady is he It wasn't like he
can go like, hey, my kids are a little older.
Now I'm going to take this fall off and not
play football. You go and play football for a certain
amount of time. His window was wider or bigger than
it allowed him to play longer than most. But now
he'll never play football ever again. Ever. Ever, So I
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would I would defend Brady from the I'm in agreement.
I think you can be both. What it takes in
order to make it work is you have to take
You have to have a spouse that is that is
committed to that exact same lifestyle to championing. Hey, when
your dad goes out to work, it's because this is
what he loves to do. And whatever you love to do,
we want you to go all in one. Maybe I'm
(19:45):
sharing too much, Jaystuo, But like, this is the exact
conversation I have with my ex wife last year when
I took this job. How can you take a job
in Wisconsin? Yeah, I know. I've lived a year away
from my son. It's the hardest part of anything I've
ever done in my life. My day start, the sun
rises and SATs based upon him. My girls are in
college and they're they're they're away from me as well.
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But again that's part of the kind of natural cycle
of life. Do I wish I was closer? Yeah? But
how much would I resent my son or our relationship
if I had not taken this job and never gotten
a coaching opportunity. I don't know. I don't know what
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you know. Again, this is a it's a difference on perspective,
whereas I think it should be championed. Hey, you always
dreamed of something in life. You got that opportunity. It
wasn't perfect. There is no perfect there just isn't. You
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End of the show. You know it is Thursday, and
you know people do the TBT on their Instagram and
(22:19):
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bit differently here. We call it. Don't call it throwback Thursday.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
We're not calling it a throwback, but we are looking back.
The year was two thousand and twenty.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Jase dou Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Doug.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Thank you, dog.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Take it, Doug.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
So I don't know if you saw in the news
this week, but I think the Athletic did an entire
breakdown on this. It's five years since the NBA bubble.
What is the bubble? You say, Well, in twenty twenty,
we experienced a worldwide pandemic called COVID nineteen and sports
(23:13):
didn't know what the hell to do. So at some
point somebody came up with the idea of let's all
go into this very was it a clean environment? I
don't even know what the word is to call it,
but yeah, bubble, let's call it the bubble. It's in Orlando,
(23:35):
I want to say. And let's play some price this
season game Apcot Center, wasn't it. Let's play some regular
season games and then we'll play some playoffs and it'll
all be in this one sequestered area where nobody's allowed inside.
We're gonna play with no fans. And of course the
Lakers won the championship. I remember most from that whole thing,
(23:58):
Kyrie Irving encouraging people not to go. You know the
details better than I do.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Doug.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, Kyrie Ever hopped one a call and was like, yeah,
we we don't need to do anything for them, them
being the league basically trying to get guys to not
go to the bubble, and he did not go with
Kevin Durant, which is crazy and undermined Jock Vaughn, who
(24:25):
at the time was head coach of the Brooklyn Nets.
Now he's associated coach with with with Kansas. The bubble
thing is fascinating, just that that whole year is going
to be studied for years and years to come. It
has changed how we work, changed how we'd live, change
how we value time time with family. I miss a
good I missed the the the quote unquote lockdown time
(24:48):
that time. This is to your to your point, uh,
Jase Stewart earlier was it did give you unfiltered time
with your kids and what anything going on.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
That was both a blessing and a curse though, Like sure,
if you had to educate your children at home and
maybe they were like three four years old or seven
eight years old, they're probably driving you nuts and you
were miserable.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
I think it came at just the right time in
our technology too, Like I don't think most people had
known what zoom is before the pandemic, and so no
one knew it. Now I've been like, yeah, my grandmother
is in a nursing home and we are facetiming her
or zooming with her like all the time. I feel
like that's kind of really standardized our idea of just
remote talking to people. It also started a lot more
(25:32):
work from home. I mean, I know I had done
some remote work and other jobs in the past, but
this definitely was the start of I think a lot
of people just deciding, Hey, why do I need to
drive an hour into the office that I can do
everything from here. As you said, it really changed how
we kind of went through our whole society. If we
could go back to that sterile bubble for a moment.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
The news not.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Really that sterile, just considering how many guys kind of
come in and out, Like, wasn't James Harden at Magic
Hear something?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah? One guy didn't one guy escape?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
It was like it was like the Great Escape, you know,
tunneling under the underground and popped up so he could
get out and go to Magic City. It was some
player that got busted for sneaking out to a strip club.
But I'd like to go back to this, this not
sterile bubble. The New Zealander Steven Adams, longtime NBA veteran.
I don't know how quotable he is, but I did
(26:24):
pull one drop from the Pandemic and Steven Adams when
he was talking about the living arrangements.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Done a bloody result.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
We're living in a bloody result. So I love that
because it's just his accent and bloody result.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I mean, we're living in a bloody resort. We what
are we doing here? So that was one little clip
there from the Great Steven Adams.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
It's funny you mentioned that because I right before the
pandemic hit, right before we all started to really learn
what COVID nineteen was. I was actually in Vegas for
what I believe was when the last weekends everything on
the strip was open. My dad and I went to
the Blaggio. We were seeing a couple shows over it
at Caesar's and like gambling on some it would have
been the college football basketball conference.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
It was I think it was conference weekend. Yeah, everything
was shut down. Remember, like Fred Heuberg got like the flu,
but he was. It was when everything was starting to
shut down during conference tournaments, right, and everybody thought Fred
Heuberg had COVID, but he was just really like just
coming down with something on the sidelines and looking all rough.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
I was working with our friend Bernie Fratto, who does
a game who used to do a gambling show on
the weekend Frustrate out of Vegas, and like I remember
when the last thing on the Vegas boards was William
and Hill had a line for a sumo wrestling tournament
in Japan which was being held behind closed doors. But
it was that important to the culture that it's like
we have to have this also much like the bubble,
(27:44):
no spectators, but it was the last thing you could
bet on before there was a whole summer of no
sports whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I'll tell you it's so funny. I have a friend
of mine who just texted me during the break. Was
the same person who was my boss when I was
doing games for the Big Ten Network and for Compass
Media Network. They did the radio games at the Big Ten.
I was on my way to Lax to fly to
(28:15):
Chicago to do Big Ten games, and I'm in the
carpool lane and i have the autopilot on. It's I
got one hand on the wheel and I got one
hand on my phone, and the car is driving itself
and I'm scrolling and my friend text means like, hey,
turn around. That was the text turnaround. So I'm sitting
(28:38):
there in the car pool lane in traffic and I'm
turnaround and I'm looking behind me, looking to my side.
I assumed assumed that she was behind me and saw
my car we were had getting on the same plane.
I'm like, I texted back, I don't know where are you?
I what kind of car you in? I don't know
what kind of car you drive. I was like, no
(29:00):
turn around, the Big ten Tournament's been canceled, Like oh oh,
it's like like that joke of you know, uh, I
thought this had Disneyland left, so I went home that
that sort of joke.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I was so bummed out when the NCAA tournament was
canceled because Luca Garza he would go on to win
Player of the Year and the next year and the
COVID weird like no fans in the stands, but he
was having a heck of a season that year and
I was really excited to seeing him leave in the
first round the nca tournament.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
We were all sitting around watching Korean baseball in that
summertime because it was the only thing that was that
was going on. Nobody else had really figured out yet
how to hold like sports behind closed doors. That bubble
kind of came like as we were, you know, barreling down.
It had been it had been established a couple of times,
and but like, yeah, it it was just it was
(29:51):
surreal watching all this stuff. No fans they were talking
about trying to pump in crowd noise or something. The
virtual fans we had like virtual fans for like NFL
game or something.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, I like CI fans.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
I was unemployed for the first time. I got let
go by Fox Sports TV in the middle of the pandemic,
and the first job I got was a contract job
for virtual fans, so the people that you saw on
the screen reacting in real time at NFL games. I
was a part of that production. That was the most
random job I've ever had, and it's a job I
(30:24):
can't return to because that job doesn't exist. There's no
more need for virtual fans at games. I I thought,
I think the athletics could really use some virtual fans
once they moved to Vegas. I have my personal story.
My second personal story from twenty to twenty involved somebody
we loved a lot around here. So, uh, my boss
(30:44):
is before I got let go at Fox Sports one,
right as the pandemic was starting to really get serious. Okay,
it's probably right around the time, right before Rudy Gobert.
Whatever we get, we get like an email from our
bosses saying, if you see of any anybody talent wise,
if you see any of our talent doing something they
(31:05):
shouldn't or something that's questionable, please let us know. We
don't want to allow talent into our building who may
have been exposed. And then I fire open my Instagram
after reading this this email, and Rob Parker is on
the Golden Girl's cruise with his arm around a bunch
of aged women. So I knew that I felt the
(31:29):
need to escalate that quickly.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
He's on a cruise, Rob, get COVID. It's all good.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Aw Hal, you thought Tom Brady was the luckiest of
all the time, I'm the luckiest of all time. By
the way, Rob Parker had his arm around older women,
like you know, Rob Parker's actually sneaky old.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Did I do that?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
But these were he was Rob loves Golden Girls. He
was fraternizing with girls in their old in years.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I got it. But again, I don't think he's that
much younger than they are.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I mean, did I know he's just he just holds
up very well. It's fine. I didn't get COVID.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
How old do you guys think Rat Parker is or
do you guys?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Look, I know how old Rob is, and I'm not
going I'm going to be a gentleman. I'm not going
to disclose he's a guy.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
You can disclose.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
How what wh are you doing?
Speaker 5 (32:23):
This.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
His age is on Wikipedia. Yeah, he didn't turn he's
sixty one. I think right, he turned sixty last year.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Well there, you just gave it away, now you now
you just aged him. You went you literally flipped.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Well, Chris christ shouted at me, So Christmas correct.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
But I mean you talk like no backbone jays tous,
like I am not going to share.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
What I'm the one who had no backbone there, jellyfish.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
No, but I'm I'm I'm looking for j Su for backup.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
No, I agree, Sam, that was very questionable.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
You you waved the white flag quicker than the French
and World War Two. We're good.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Get me started on that.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
We're good.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
I think that the crazy thing was like so as
the bubble started, I saw an interview with famed NBA
player Kevin Durant and they're like, Kevin, what are you
listening to right now on your phone? What's the song
that's got your interest? And he said this and it
(33:23):
comes with a very sad story.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Good jam.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
This is Maroon five memories. I don't know about you, guys,
but I associate this song most with the funeral for
Kobe Bryant. They played this at the services and of
course in twenty twenty, when we were all making our
way to the Super Bowl, I was at least I
got the news on the plane to Miami that Kobe
(33:52):
had passed. But I always remember this song. I was
always associated with Kobe and them playing at the funeral.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, I mean that was a tough traumatic time and
h full disclosure. Living in Newport Beach, my daughter had
gone to school with Gigi and basically everybody in that plane,
and her best friend was on that plane, and it
was a hard, hard time, ha hard time.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I was with Steve Hartman, Rich Ornberger, your former producer.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Gabbing the Dream, living the Dream.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I was with your former producer, Gavin Kinsell, former Update
anchor David Gaskin. We were all on the air doing
our Fox Red Zone radio show when we got word
that Kobe had perish in a helicopter crash. It was
just it was just it was a different world we
were living in in that moment, and that was just
a strange, heartbreaking way to start the COVID season. And
(34:53):
so we had we had Kobe kind of you know,
his death starting just sort of this you know year
of just you know, being upended. I remember the Big
Ten season, like we were all they were trying to
figure out should we have this season? First it was
what canceled right Then they're like, now we can't cancel that,
We'd lose so much money. So the Big Ten started late.
I think they played eight games. They were supposed to,
(35:13):
you know, play ten games.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Six Iowa started Western one all of them. Day is
Up is down, day as night, black as white.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
But you know what you want it, so yes, up,
up is down, days night, black is white. Iowa under
Brian Farrence had the third best scoring offense in the
Big Ten this that year. They started out the Big
Ten season the you know, a shorter season oh to two,
losing a couple of weird games, and then they ripped
off six straight wins and they were just pounding people.
(35:42):
And then they were supposed to play Michigan and they're
supposed to play Misouri a bowl game, and then unfortunately
those games got canceled. But I look at that offense
is just this weird. I don't I don't know if
it's because there's nobody in the stands, but they were
just pummeling people. Also, a lot of teams had COVID.
Wisconsin Penn State all kinds of disorder, so Iowa was
just pouncing on them right there. That was when the
Brian Farrens offense actually worked. It was a thing of
(36:03):
beauty that if I didn't have Iowa football that year,
I would have been just so much more depressed.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
I think my greatest regret from that year sports wise
was I've been to two Olympics in my life, Atlanta
and Sydney. I want to go to more. I love
the Olympics and I had wanted to go to Japan.
It was my dream to go to Tokyo twenty twenty.
I had made a bunch of arrangements and COVID blasted
in the mall to smithereens. It was still going on,
but honestly, like I couldn't be there, there was no
(36:29):
one there. It took a lot of sale out of
the Olympics for me. And I was at home instead
of in Japan. And I was at home watching a
bunch of movies on streaming services because that's what we
were doing instead of the theaters too. It was like
everyone got into movies being streaming at that same time too.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yes, I remember Joe.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
For the Dodgers were the Dodgers win in the World
Series and it was on during Halloween.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
I hate the Mickey Mouse talk from these years too,
Like just Mickey Mouse Championships, all of that. I hate
that talk.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
He just I think it's very different.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
Sure, but I think we've had other shortened seasons as
well that just don't get the same kind.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Of screwed me. I feel the bloody result. I want
to mention one thing before we leave.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
So Ohio State ended up and Dan's not gonna let
me bringing this up because it's probably not a great
memory for him. The Buckeyes, though, ended up, you know,
pulling away from Northwestern in the title game. They went
on to play an Alabama team thirteen to zero. They
played a full season pretty much. A lot of people
regard that Alabama team as being like Nick Saban's best
or one of his best, ended up pulling away from
(37:35):
a very very good Ohio State Buckeyes team fifty two
to twenty four.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
And that is don't call it a cut, don't call
it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
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well day off comes beat. The Brewers had that great
popcorn in America family Field. Oh popcorn is insanely insanely good,
and a couple of cold beverages. And we were good
rainy day and Milwaukee. But as my good friend Boog
Shambi told me, is I popped in that WGN booth.
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Great thing about Milwaukee is there's a roof, so we
know we're playing today. Welcome in Hope. You made the
best of your day and you continue to do so.
We've got a great show for you planned, including who's
a better dad, Scottie Scheffler or Tom Brady. Uh Jay
(01:11):
Stu has one opinion. I have the polar opposite opinion.
We'll discuss. You can think about it, and by the way.
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I say, dare Queen, and people were like, yeah, well
I might not have it because I'm trying to do
something with my body or I'm model which what I
what he eat, or there's not one in my town
or whatever. But I don't think there's anybody's like, you know,
I don't like look Drry Queen now protesting dairy Queen
(02:19):
would be very very lonely, very lonely.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yes, emmy, sorry, we are just starting the show. But
I was curious, what are your favorite what's your favorite
Blizzard combo?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I mean, I'm an oreo cookie guy, like put Puru
in there, but I again, they didn't ask me. They
asked him my favorite blizzard. What they didn't ask me
is what I like to order from DQ. Dipcne Oh yeah,
vanilla dip it in the chocolate.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Oh man, so good, so good.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And by the way, again per Hay has got leave
my son who knows about chicken strips and chicken sandwiches
from every spot. He's DQ, he says, underrated. I was like,
I don't know where they rank in the rankings. It's like, no, no, no,
that the chicken strips or chicken fingers, whatever they call it,
they're all the same. They're fantastic at Q. So there
you go. There's your there's your DQ ed and everybody
else is not like yeah, I kind of do like DQ.
(03:05):
I may not have it, but I like it. No
one dislikes it. Okay, I'll give you somebody that people
do are. It's polarizing, like and dislike. Is Lebron James.
So there is this picture of Lebron Maverick Carter, his agent,
and Nikolae Jokich's agent on a boat and there's lots
of like, what are they talking about? Is Lebron going
(03:27):
to Denver? Is Yoki coming? To LA, what's going on? Then,
I don't know. It was yesterday or earlier today, it
was yesterday. It came out that the conversation was in
regards to Maverick Carter starting a league, some international league
where you have men's teams and women's teams and it'll
(03:49):
be like Live Golf, only for the NBA. Like wow,
that's genius, right. Everybody takes an idea, and I like,
I don't don't know if Kudoba came first or if
Chipotle came first, but somebody stole somebody else's fast casual idea, right,
and then you look at all the fast cash places.
(04:10):
Then you guys have had kava, like kava came in,
Like I will do the Greek form of it. There
is an Indian food form of it. But as I
told you, no disrespect to my Indian brothers and sisters,
but I just I don't do Indian food. It's like
the only thing I don't do. I don't. I just don't.
It's just not my jam. But the bigger point is,
(04:33):
like you know, I obviously Live has made a lot
of people a lot of money. It has broken through.
They have partnered with the PGA. No one knows you know,
what's going to happen to in the future. But a
lot of guys have gotten rich off it, and it's
it's interesting, and they try and do the kind of
rock and roll NBA introductions and try and spice it
up whatever. And golf, which can be seen as lame,
(04:56):
is trying to be made cool by liv golf whatever.
Whether it's working or not working, it's still surviving. You
guys are still getting paid and so it's lasted this long,
so it has worked. But but I have a hypothesis
that I'd like to share with you, and you tell
me if it makes sense. Okay. Chris Prefett, by the way,
(05:17):
is filming in for Dan Byer's here. Hey, welcome and Chris,
of course you got Iowa, Sam and m A Man
Jay Stoo. Okay. So I think most people who watch
and cover the NBA are familiar and some people or
not that Lebron James has made it very very clear
he nearly wants to own an NBA team. He wants
(05:37):
to own a Vegas expansion team. Vegas expansion team. And
many of you are driving along, you're sitting your cubicle,
or you listen to the DG Show. Maybe you're listen
to us on the app and you're like, yeah, I
remember something about that. Okay. So I think, first of all,
this this meeting very easily could have happened in secret,
(05:59):
and no no one knows about it. Why would somebody
take a picture and then put it out on social media?
Because they want you to know it's happening, right, that's inarguable.
I don't have to talk to somebody in Lebron's camp
or Yokich just camp to know that the reason it
was out on social media is they want you to
(06:21):
know what's happening. Why would they want you to know
what's happening. Well, there's only two possible reasons. One, Lebron
was told he's not getting a team, which is altogether possible,
maybe even likely, because as deep as Lebron's pockets are,
they're not that deep. They're not that deep. The Lebron
(06:42):
being worth a billion dollars it sounds good, it's very
likely to not be real because I'm sure a lot
of it is tied up in Nike stock and in
other stocks. Not that that doesn't count in your terms
of your evaluation, but I think a lot of it
is based upon his personal brand, his personal value, not
(07:02):
how much actual cash he has or how much how
many actual assets he has and whether not those assets
equal out to a billion dollars. Remember NBA teams. We
just watched the Lakers go for ten billion dollars billion,
So I know NBA players, and Lebron seems to be
(07:23):
the richest of them, but that pales in comparison to
the guys that are in the in the financial financial markets.
So there's one of only two possibles that I've come
up with. Either one, he was told he's not getting
a team and this is his way of going. Or two,
(07:46):
he wants to leverage his way to getting a team,
and the only way to get leverage is if you
don't give me this team, I'm going to go out
and form this other league that's going to be in
competition with you, with the hopes of ultimately getting a
team that way. That's the only two possible solutions I
(08:09):
can think of, or reasons I can think of why
Lebron would nullly have this meeting. Having the meeting, you
could take a meeting with anybody, but why do you
want to take a picture of it? Why do you
want people to know what it was about. Why do
you want to know? Why do you want to include
Nikola Jokic's agent in it. It's pretty obvious right that
(08:29):
this is I'm sure they're going to sell it as
this is our next step. This is what we do
after we retire, is we own NBA teams. We force
expansion into Europe by putting together teams in Europe, and
then ultimately they joined the NBA. Or maybe it's because
we make them pay us, we make them give us
(08:53):
a seat at the table, or maybe it's an fu
The issue with any league outside the end, in comparison
to golf is golfers, outside of their sponsorship money, if
they don't play well on Thursday and Friday, they don't
get paid. They don't get to hang around for Saturday
and Sunday. Whereas NBA players they're plenty well compensated. And
(09:15):
oh yeah, by the way, that money is based upon
TV deals, and a new league wouldn't have enough teams,
nor would have the star power to have those big
TV deals. And if the sale was, hey, we're gonna
launch with Lebron James, the problem is that by the
time Lebron James's contract expires, Say they start a new
league and he is the centerpiece of it, to be
(09:37):
forty one years old, and it'll be playing against rummies,
and it will diminish all the things he did in
the NBA. It just will. That's the reality to it. Okay,
it'll diminish what he's done in the NBA. And the
last part and maybe the most important part to it
that this is my takeaway, and it may not sit
(09:59):
well with you, but I know it to be reality,
which is Lebron has never cared about Laker fans or
being a Laker. He clearly doesn't care about being a
Miami Heat and very likely doesn't care about being a
Cleveland Cavalier and what all that represents because he left
there twice, and conducting such a meeting and allowing your
(10:20):
agent with a firm that you started to tweet out
that picture showing that you're trying to do harm to
the league that has helped make you into a billionaire,
only shows that Lebron James cares only about the relationships
of people he knew in high school. And that's it.
(10:40):
That's it. He cared about JJ Reddick and their relationship
he never would allowed his agent to go public and
say they're basically they're not a championship team. If he
cared about the Lakers, he wouldn't do so many of
the things he's done while being a member of the Lakers.
Who discussed this, is he cared about being a member
of the Miami Heat, he would have just left. Why
(11:03):
they played in four NBA finals, it won two of them.
He shown no value, nor has he ever claimed that
as partner. You know, this is who Lebron is. It
definitely tracks he's somebody who doesn't actually care about anybody
outside of his inner circle. And again that's okay with
(11:26):
the exception of the fact that he desperately want to
be loved by everybody and cared for by everybody. But
those are really transactional relationships. So the big takeaways from
Lebron meeting with Jokic's agent is I think it's a
leverage play or an fu play because he was either
told he's not going to get a team, or he
(11:47):
wants to try and force himself to getting a team,
and the only way he can do it is to
force his way by helping create this new league. The
miscalculation is that league has zero value unless it has stars,
and the best star would be Lebron James, who, don't
get me wrong, people would come out and watch in
(12:09):
you know, if he's start trying to start a league,
people would watch, but they're not going to pay attention
to a league. And then at some point when your
best and most known player retires, then what you have nothing.
It feels like it's simply a leverage play in order
to get the NBA to give him that team in Vegas,
which they may or may not have during the next cycle.
(12:29):
All right, coming up next to The Doug Gottlieb Show
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John Middelkoff thinks about what John Harbaugh said about Lamar Jackson.
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up on top of your screen. You guys heard what
Scottie Scheffler said? Was that two weeks ago? Right? Here's
Scotty Scheffler a couple weeks ago talking about this is
(13:37):
before the Open Championship, by the way, talking about word
flight bounds.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
That's why I talk about families being my priority, because
it really is. You know, I'm blessed to be able
to come out here and play golf. But if my
golf ever started affecting my home life or whatever affected
the relationship I have with my wife or with my son,
you know, that's gonna be the last day that I
play out here for a living. You know, this is
not the be all end all. This is not the
most important thing in my life. And that's why I
rust with why is this so important to me? Because
(14:02):
you know, I would much rather be a great father
than I would be a great golfer. You know that
at the end of the day, that that's what's more
important to me.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Okay, so what makes a great father? Can you? Can
you be both? Right? Can you be both? Here's Tom
Brady on Scotty Scheffler. Oh, I'm sorry Tom Brady talking
about Scotty Scheffler. I thought this was super, super interesting
right where he he he just had a different perspective
(14:34):
on it, and one that just be honest, I kind
of share. He said. Scotty said he'd rather be a
better father and husband than a good golfer. My question
is why are those mutually exclusive? Now? Again, if I
was to go through it, I don't think they were,
but he said if there was ever a chance that
they were, that's when he would shut it down. But regardless,
sure they're different blocks on the pyramid, but they're part
(14:55):
of the same pyramid. They're connected. For instance, I think
being part of being a part of being a great father,
is an example of doing what it takes to take
care of your family. I choose to do it by
playing football, my dedication to the sport, the hours of practice,
the moments when I was laser focused. Those were times
when I believe I was doing the best possible thing
for my family and my kids by prioritizing my profession
(15:16):
and teaching by example what it takes to be really
good at true job. But it takes a follow through
with commitments, what it takes to be a great teammate,
and showing them also by example that work is a
big part of all of our lives. I'll just give
the floor to you, Jay stew because you have a
very pointed criticism of Brady in this correct.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Yeah, it just doesn't It doesn't pass the smell test
to me. I think this is an easy thing to
say after I think it's the kind of a way
of justifying all the time spent away from your kids
that I was setting an example for them. This is
what I know about Tom Brady, And again, nobody knows anything.
Nobody was in their house other than the family, But
(16:00):
this is what I know. In the wake of the roast,
what did we hear? We heard the ex complaining that
he put his kids in that situation with the roast,
and we've heard Tom himself say I regret doing the
roast because of what was said about my family. So
(16:20):
it's just really strange to see him obviously internalize what
Scotty Scheffer said, like Tom took that personally and this
is his way of justifying it, that I spent all
that time away for my kids to be a great
example and that's part of being a great father. I
(16:40):
just don't buy it.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You don't think that's part of being a great father.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
No, I don't believe that was a part of Brady's
motivation to be great. I think Brady is built differently
than Scheffler. Scheffler is unfulfilled by kicking people's ass. That
was something that was very fulfilling for Brady. They're just
built differently. But I think Brady kind of took it
personally what Scotti said.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Oh, I listen again when you when you've gone through
a divorce, and I have, so I can speak on
this one right, especially when you are you know, look,
I'm not Tom Brady. But similarly, in terms of there's
there's times in which you're away from home that most
dads are not away from home. Now, there's times which
you're home where most dads are not home either, but
no one chooses to recognize that. But I think you're
(17:31):
talking about and when we were talking about it off air,
you were talking about resentment and how his kids probably resent,
you know, those last couple of years of playing football
when he could have been with them. And my thought is, okay,
twofold one, you'll end up resenting your kids if you
turn down a great work opportunity for your kids. And secondly,
(17:52):
I just disagree with that your whole premise of it.
I think that's part of being a great dad. Yes,
you do, you know, And if I look back, there
should have been times in which I prioritize stuff. My
thing was I tried to get home as quickly as possible.
When I was done, I would take the last flight
(18:13):
out in the first fight back, That's what I would do.
But no, I never said no to work opportunities because
I thought, I do. I agree, that's a good chance
to show your kids, Hey, my dad he grinds everything
we have is because he's gonna work. Now, do you
have to, at some point in off seasons and smart times,
(18:34):
say hey, I need to diut back, I need to
put my phone away. I need to be a human being. Sure. Sure,
maybe it's because I'm much more aligned with the Brady
perspective than the Scottie Scheffler perspective. But I think it's
completely unfair to think that's not being a good father. Right.
Every kid is different, every relationship is different, every job
is different. And oh yeah, by the way, like the
(18:56):
thing about Tom Brady is he It wasn't like he
can go like, hey, my kids are a little older.
Now I'm going to take this fall off and not
play football. You go and play football for a certain
amount of time. His window was wider or bigger than
it allowed him to play longer than most. But now
he'll never play football ever again. Ever. Ever, So I
(19:21):
would I would defend Brady from the I'm in agreement.
I think you can be both. What it takes in
order to make it work is you have to take
You have to have a spouse that is that is
committed to that exact same lifestyle to championing. Hey, when
your dad goes out to work, it's because this is
what he loves to do. And whatever you love to do,
we want you to go all in one. Maybe I'm
(19:45):
sharing too much, Jaystuo, But like, this is the exact
conversation I have with my ex wife last year when
I took this job. How can you take a job
in Wisconsin? Yeah, I know. I've lived a year away
from my son. It's the hardest part of anything I've
ever done in my life. My day start, the sun
rises and SATs based upon him. My girls are in
college and they're they're they're away from me as well.
(20:07):
But again that's part of the kind of natural cycle
of life. Do I wish I was closer? Yeah? But
how much would I resent my son or our relationship
if I had not taken this job and never gotten
a coaching opportunity. I don't know. I don't know what
(20:29):
you know. Again, this is a it's a difference on perspective,
whereas I think it should be championed. Hey, you always
dreamed of something in life. You got that opportunity. It
wasn't perfect. There is no perfect there just isn't. You
do the best you can, otherwise you end up presenting
things that held you back. Thanks for listening to The
(20:50):
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you know people do the TBT on their Instagram and
(22:19):
sometimes on their x accounts. We do TBT a little
bit differently here. We call it. Don't call it throwback Thursday.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
We're not calling it a throwback, but we are looking back.
The year was two thousand and twenty.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Jase dou Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Doug.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Thank you, dog.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Take it, Doug.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
So I don't know if you saw in the news
this week, but I think the Athletic did an entire
breakdown on this. It's five years since the NBA bubble.
What is the bubble? You say, Well, in twenty twenty,
we experienced a worldwide pandemic called COVID nineteen and sports
(23:13):
didn't know what the hell to do. So at some
point somebody came up with the idea of let's all
go into this very was it a clean environment? I
don't even know what the word is to call it,
but yeah, bubble, let's call it the bubble. It's in Orlando,
(23:35):
I want to say. And let's play some price this
season game Apcot Center, wasn't it. Let's play some regular
season games and then we'll play some playoffs and it'll
all be in this one sequestered area where nobody's allowed inside.
We're gonna play with no fans. And of course the
Lakers won the championship. I remember most from that whole thing,
(23:58):
Kyrie Irving encouraging people not to go. You know the
details better than I do.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Doug.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, Kyrie Ever hopped one a call and was like, yeah,
we we don't need to do anything for them, them
being the league basically trying to get guys to not
go to the bubble, and he did not go with
Kevin Durant, which is crazy and undermined Jock Vaughn, who
(24:25):
at the time was head coach of the Brooklyn Nets.
Now he's associated coach with with with Kansas. The bubble
thing is fascinating, just that that whole year is going
to be studied for years and years to come. It
has changed how we work, changed how we'd live, change
how we value time time with family. I miss a
good I missed the the the quote unquote lockdown time
(24:48):
that time. This is to your to your point, uh,
Jase Stewart earlier was it did give you unfiltered time
with your kids and what anything going on.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
That was both a blessing and a curse though, Like sure,
if you had to educate your children at home and
maybe they were like three four years old or seven
eight years old, they're probably driving you nuts and you
were miserable.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
I think it came at just the right time in
our technology too, Like I don't think most people had
known what zoom is before the pandemic, and so no
one knew it. Now I've been like, yeah, my grandmother
is in a nursing home and we are facetiming her
or zooming with her like all the time. I feel
like that's kind of really standardized our idea of just
remote talking to people. It also started a lot more
(25:32):
work from home. I mean, I know I had done
some remote work and other jobs in the past, but
this definitely was the start of I think a lot
of people just deciding, Hey, why do I need to
drive an hour into the office that I can do
everything from here. As you said, it really changed how
we kind of went through our whole society. If we
could go back to that sterile bubble for a moment.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
The news not.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Really that sterile, just considering how many guys kind of
come in and out, Like, wasn't James Harden at Magic
Hear something?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Yeah? One guy didn't one guy escape?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
It was like it was like the Great Escape, you know,
tunneling under the underground and popped up so he could
get out and go to Magic City. It was some
player that got busted for sneaking out to a strip club.
But I'd like to go back to this, this not
sterile bubble. The New Zealander Steven Adams, longtime NBA veteran.
I don't know how quotable he is, but I did
(26:24):
pull one drop from the Pandemic and Steven Adams when
he was talking about the living arrangements.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Done a bloody result.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
We're living in a bloody result. So I love that
because it's just his accent and bloody result.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I mean, we're living in a bloody resort. We what
are we doing here? So that was one little clip
there from the Great Steven Adams.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
It's funny you mentioned that because I right before the
pandemic hit, right before we all started to really learn
what COVID nineteen was. I was actually in Vegas for
what I believe was when the last weekends everything on
the strip was open. My dad and I went to
the Blaggio. We were seeing a couple shows over it
at Caesar's and like gambling on some it would have
been the college football basketball conference.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
It was I think it was conference weekend. Yeah, everything
was shut down. Remember, like Fred Heuberg got like the flu,
but he was. It was when everything was starting to
shut down during conference tournaments, right, and everybody thought Fred
Heuberg had COVID, but he was just really like just
coming down with something on the sidelines and looking all rough.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
I was working with our friend Bernie Fratto, who does
a game who used to do a gambling show on
the weekend Frustrate out of Vegas, and like I remember
when the last thing on the Vegas boards was William
and Hill had a line for a sumo wrestling tournament
in Japan which was being held behind closed doors. But
it was that important to the culture that it's like
we have to have this also much like the bubble,
(27:44):
no spectators, but it was the last thing you could
bet on before there was a whole summer of no
sports whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I'll tell you it's so funny. I have a friend
of mine who just texted me during the break. Was
the same person who was my boss when I was
doing games for the Big Ten Network and for Compass
Media Network. They did the radio games at the Big Ten.
I was on my way to Lax to fly to
(28:15):
Chicago to do Big Ten games, and I'm in the
carpool lane and i have the autopilot on. It's I
got one hand on the wheel and I got one
hand on my phone, and the car is driving itself
and I'm scrolling and my friend text means like, hey,
turn around. That was the text turnaround. So I'm sitting
(28:38):
there in the car pool lane in traffic and I'm
turnaround and I'm looking behind me, looking to my side.
I assumed assumed that she was behind me and saw
my car we were had getting on the same plane.
I'm like, I texted back, I don't know where are you?
I what kind of car you in? I don't know
what kind of car you drive. I was like, no
(29:00):
turn around, the Big ten Tournament's been canceled, Like oh oh,
it's like like that joke of you know, uh, I
thought this had Disneyland left, so I went home that
that sort of joke.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I was so bummed out when the NCAA tournament was
canceled because Luca Garza he would go on to win
Player of the Year and the next year and the
COVID weird like no fans in the stands, but he
was having a heck of a season that year and
I was really excited to seeing him leave in the
first round the nca tournament.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
We were all sitting around watching Korean baseball in that
summertime because it was the only thing that was that
was going on. Nobody else had really figured out yet
how to hold like sports behind closed doors. That bubble
kind of came like as we were, you know, barreling down.
It had been it had been established a couple of times,
and but like, yeah, it it was just it was
(29:51):
surreal watching all this stuff. No fans they were talking
about trying to pump in crowd noise or something. The
virtual fans we had like virtual fans for like NFL
game or something.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, I like CI fans.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
I was unemployed for the first time. I got let
go by Fox Sports TV in the middle of the pandemic,
and the first job I got was a contract job
for virtual fans, so the people that you saw on
the screen reacting in real time at NFL games. I
was a part of that production. That was the most
random job I've ever had, and it's a job I
(30:24):
can't return to because that job doesn't exist. There's no
more need for virtual fans at games. I I thought,
I think the athletics could really use some virtual fans
once they moved to Vegas. I have my personal story.
My second personal story from twenty to twenty involved somebody
we loved a lot around here. So, uh, my boss
(30:44):
is before I got let go at Fox Sports one,
right as the pandemic was starting to really get serious. Okay,
it's probably right around the time, right before Rudy Gobert.
Whatever we get, we get like an email from our
bosses saying, if you see of any anybody talent wise,
if you see any of our talent doing something they
(31:05):
shouldn't or something that's questionable, please let us know. We
don't want to allow talent into our building who may
have been exposed. And then I fire open my Instagram
after reading this this email, and Rob Parker is on
the Golden Girl's cruise with his arm around a bunch
of aged women. So I knew that I felt the
(31:29):
need to escalate that quickly.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
He's on a cruise, Rob, get COVID. It's all good.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Aw Hal, you thought Tom Brady was the luckiest of
all the time, I'm the luckiest of all time. By
the way, Rob Parker had his arm around older women,
like you know, Rob Parker's actually sneaky old.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Did I do that?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
But these were he was Rob loves Golden Girls. He
was fraternizing with girls in their old in years.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I got it. But again, I don't think he's that
much younger than they are.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I mean, did I know he's just he just holds
up very well. It's fine. I didn't get COVID.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
How old do you guys think Rat Parker is or
do you guys?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Look, I know how old Rob is, and I'm not
going I'm going to be a gentleman. I'm not going
to disclose he's a guy.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
You can disclose.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
How what wh are you doing?
Speaker 5 (32:23):
This.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
His age is on Wikipedia. Yeah, he didn't turn he's
sixty one. I think right, he turned sixty last year.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Well there, you just gave it away, now you now
you just aged him. You went you literally flipped.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Well, Chris christ shouted at me, So Christmas correct.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
But I mean you talk like no backbone jays tous,
like I am not going to share.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
What I'm the one who had no backbone there, jellyfish.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
No, but I'm I'm I'm looking for j Su for backup.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
No, I agree, Sam, that was very questionable.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
You you waved the white flag quicker than the French
and World War Two. We're good.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Get me started on that.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
We're good.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
I think that the crazy thing was like so as
the bubble started, I saw an interview with famed NBA
player Kevin Durant and they're like, Kevin, what are you
listening to right now on your phone? What's the song
that's got your interest? And he said this and it
(33:23):
comes with a very sad story.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Good jam.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
This is Maroon five memories. I don't know about you, guys,
but I associate this song most with the funeral for
Kobe Bryant. They played this at the services and of
course in twenty twenty, when we were all making our
way to the Super Bowl, I was at least I
got the news on the plane to Miami that Kobe
(33:52):
had passed. But I always remember this song. I was
always associated with Kobe and them playing at the funeral.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, I mean that was a tough traumatic time and
h full disclosure. Living in Newport Beach, my daughter had
gone to school with Gigi and basically everybody in that plane,
and her best friend was on that plane, and it
was a hard, hard time, ha hard time.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I was with Steve Hartman, Rich Ornberger, your former producer.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Gabbing the Dream, living the Dream.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I was with your former producer, Gavin Kinsell, former Update
anchor David Gaskin. We were all on the air doing
our Fox Red Zone radio show when we got word
that Kobe had perish in a helicopter crash. It was
just it was just it was a different world we
were living in in that moment, and that was just
a strange, heartbreaking way to start the COVID season. And
(34:53):
so we had we had Kobe kind of you know,
his death starting just sort of this you know year
of just you know, being upended. I remember the Big
Ten season, like we were all they were trying to
figure out should we have this season? First it was
what canceled right Then they're like, now we can't cancel that,
We'd lose so much money. So the Big Ten started late.
I think they played eight games. They were supposed to,
(35:13):
you know, play ten games.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Six Iowa started Western one all of them. Day is
Up is down, day as night, black as white.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
But you know what you want it, so yes, up,
up is down, days night, black is white. Iowa under
Brian Farrence had the third best scoring offense in the
Big Ten this that year. They started out the Big
Ten season the you know, a shorter season oh to two,
losing a couple of weird games, and then they ripped
off six straight wins and they were just pounding people.
(35:42):
And then they were supposed to play Michigan and they're
supposed to play Misouri a bowl game, and then unfortunately
those games got canceled. But I look at that offense
is just this weird. I don't I don't know if
it's because there's nobody in the stands, but they were
just pummeling people. Also, a lot of teams had COVID.
Wisconsin Penn State all kinds of disorder, so Iowa was
just pouncing on them right there. That was when the
Brian Farrens offense actually worked. It was a thing of
(36:03):
beauty that if I didn't have Iowa football that year,
I would have been just so much more depressed.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
I think my greatest regret from that year sports wise
was I've been to two Olympics in my life, Atlanta
and Sydney. I want to go to more. I love
the Olympics and I had wanted to go to Japan.
It was my dream to go to Tokyo twenty twenty.
I had made a bunch of arrangements and COVID blasted
in the mall to smithereens. It was still going on,
but honestly, like I couldn't be there, there was no
(36:29):
one there. It took a lot of sale out of
the Olympics for me. And I was at home instead
of in Japan. And I was at home watching a
bunch of movies on streaming services because that's what we
were doing instead of the theaters too. It was like
everyone got into movies being streaming at that same time too.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yes, I remember Joe.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
For the Dodgers were the Dodgers win in the World
Series and it was on during Halloween.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
I hate the Mickey Mouse talk from these years too,
Like just Mickey Mouse Championships, all of that. I hate
that talk.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
He just I think it's very different.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
Sure, but I think we've had other shortened seasons as
well that just don't get the same kind.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Of screwed me. I feel the bloody result. I want
to mention one thing before we leave.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
So Ohio State ended up and Dan's not gonna let
me bringing this up because it's probably not a great
memory for him. The Buckeyes, though, ended up, you know,
pulling away from Northwestern in the title game. They went
on to play an Alabama team thirteen to zero. They
played a full season pretty much. A lot of people
regard that Alabama team as being like Nick Saban's best
or one of his best, ended up pulling away from
(37:35):
a very very good Ohio State Buckeyes team fifty two
to twenty four.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
And that is don't call it a cut, don't call
it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
Don't call it a throwback Thursday.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
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