August 8, 2025 • 39 mins
Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos, in for Doug Gottlieb, react to Anthony Richardson's injury in his preseason debut. It is time to end the unfortunate behavior with fans at WNBA games. Plus, Travis Hunter can change the future of the Jaguars!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Takes a big, big man to admit he's wrong, sometimes,
Moncey Belanios, takes a big, big woman to admit her faults.
Somebody today on this show was dead wrong, dead wrong,
not dead giveaway, dead wrong when it comes to Anthony
Richardson and his career as an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I think a lot of people feel that way.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Dan, you think a lot of people also feel that
you're dead r.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Uhhu that they were dead wrong on Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
We are a show of truth, We are a show
of character integrity. We will not shy away from some
of our faults. One of us here was dead wrong
about Anthony Richardson. We're going to get to that in
a second. By the way, welcome in. It's a Friday Friday,
and here's your bonus. Moncey and I will be with
(01:11):
you on Fox Sports Radio for the next four hours.
So we're in for Doug gottliegu today. Doug was in
for the Herd doing Colin Cowherd. We are then going
to be in for Cavino and rich coming up at
five o'clock Eastern time, two Pacific. So we got four
hours and we're not doing it by ourself. Monzi. Ryan Berschinger.
Ryan Berschinger is here, as is Iowa Sam. And you
heard Isaac at the news desk. That's right, all right,
(01:33):
So last night you're at that news desk, yes, and
you're about to take in some preseason.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Football exciting right Here.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Comes Anthony Richardson out on the field, ready to go,
and what do you see?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I see what feels like a glitch in a video game. Okay,
that's what I see? And like, did he just get
did anybody? What is he down on the floor with
the game just started? What happened?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I felt like a glitch in the video game when
I just saw a guy b line and take him
down in his what.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Third play, second snap was that?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
It happened so fast it felt like a glitch in
the system.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
This is this doesn't happen in preseason games. No, okay,
And there is something that needs to be said about
how this play happened last night, because there's a there's
a much bigger topic that we're going to get to.
I remember asking former NFL lineman now Fox Sports host
(02:35):
Jeff Schwartz about this because Patrick Mahomes would always play
in preseason games, and now we're seeing a little bit
more of a trend where guys are playing more. At
least last night, we saw Joe Burrow play where you're
going to get some of the starters getting some action
in the preseason and not being held out entirely. And
Jeff said, look, you can scheme things up in a
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way where Patrick Mahomes is not going to get touched,
but there's things that you can do within that quarter
of the game where he's not gonna get blindsided, he's
not gonna get crushed. He's not going to do any
of those things because they're the Chiefs and their Patrick Mahomes,
and Patrick Mahomes knows what he's doing. That was not
the case last night for the Indianapolis Colts. And by
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Jeff Schwartz's review, by Kurt Warner's review by Chase Daniel's review.
The issue with Anthony Richardson getting sacked last night was
not on the Colts offensive line.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Or the second third stringers.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yes, it was none of their faults. The fault was
on Anthony Richardson. And so Anthony Richardson gets leveled and
he doesn't read the play correctly. He had a hot
route because a guy was coming in clean and the
NFL players can break it down and you can find
it on social media much better than what I would
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be able to. But the point is is he had
a hot route, didn't hit the running back out of
the backfield or the other option, and got absolutely leveled.
So all of the discourse that you may have heard
it was solely on Anthony Richardson's shoulders last night of
why he got hit and why that's different from, say,
something that the Kansas City chief Sir Patrick Mahomes would do.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
It really did seem that way, even though it happened
so fast, because my perception on it.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It happened fast. He didn't even look to that side
of the field.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
He did not, and being a quarterback is the hardest
job in sports, I think it is. He didn't even
look to that right side so I was like, was
was it on him?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Or was it did somebody else miss block? Miss step?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I don't know, but reading all of those former NFL players,
former quarterbacks saying no, it was on him, and in
the moment I thought that, but I couldn't verify because
I've never played that position, you know what I mean.
I was like, did somebody miss the block? And that's
why it was a clean straight I'm telling you, a
glitch in the system.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I couldn't believe that nobody was around him. Dude took
a hit without even knowing it was coming.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
You say it's a glitch, It's like me playing Madden
on Madden level, like when I'm still like on the
one that's like right above rookie. Like that's what it is.
Like a guy came and clean and sacked. You're like,
uh oh yes. Anthony Richardson gave an explanation on what
happened on the play last night in Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
I just got to get my eyes just be able
to know react to that. But just five man pro
just playing hot, you know, I just gotta be on
my p's and q's when comes to that. It was
just gonna be hard for me to see anyway because
my eyes are looking a certain way. But how's he
got to be keyed on when when everybody bringing pressures
like that, I started was about to be the nickel,
but they brought it from the other side, So I
got to be ready to just get the ball out.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
So he took full responsibility. He did, and I feel
that that that is good of Anthony Richardson. That's not
the whole story. The whole story with Anthony and Richardson
throughout his career hasn't been necessarily the production, which has
been a major part of it. It's also manzi been
the availability. And last night he gets clobbered. His pinky
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ends up looking like it's throwing up a gang sign
like it is. It looked like a compass like it was.
It was knocked out of sorts on the one hit.
And this is the problem with Anthony Richardson. He hasn't
been available to be able to grow as a quarterback
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because he is always getting injured. And so we look
at last night and we say, well, he's got to
be able to make that read. All the former players
are saying they got to be able to make that read.
I can I agree with that, I will take their
word for it. I'll take Anthony Richardson's word for it.
But the ultimate, the ultimate, overlying thing is that Anthony
Richardson has not been available to progress in his career,
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which he has needed to do because when he entered
the NFL he was as raw of a prospect as
there was in twenty twenty three. So now he's hurt again.
Missed some a camp this year, missed a bunch of time.
His rookie last year missed time as well. He's always
going to get hurt and there's never going to be
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a time where he's going to be healthy enough in
his career to stay unscathed and be able to get
into a rhythm and learn the things that he needs
to learn. That is the biggest issue that I see
last night is it's not that Anthony Richardson missed the
hot route, which I think is the obvious, and so
he got hurt again, and thank goodness for him. It's
not a serious injury with his finger, but it's a
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dislocated pinky And every time everything happens, there seems to
be something going wrong with Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
A dislocated pinky on his throwing hand also not on
the other one, and he said he was able to
grip the ball on the sideline and that he was
going to be fine.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
He's day to day.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
In fact, they're already talking that he's going to be back,
probably in time to play for their next preseason game.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
But I feel that I agree with you, Dan totally.
The injuries are a big part of it. But despite
the injuries, I feel like you should be progressing. You
should still learn to make that read.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Even if you've been injured, you've been in the league,
you've been watching, you need to do that. The Las
Vegas Raiders had the rookie quarterback Cam Miller in the
game and he had a short, little stint, but he
didn't miss the throat.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
He looked elite.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
And so when you see a rookie perform like that,
and then you have Anthony Richardson, who's not a rookie
who has been hurt, it's still kind of like, okay, dude,
so are we done thinking Anthony Richardson has it?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I get what you're saying. I'm not trying to handle
him with kid gloves, but I do think that because
of how how little experience he had coming into the
National Football League leaving after his redchard sophomore year with Florida.
He is the guy that needed all of it, and
some maybe don't. Some guys were maybe in college systems
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their all entire career. In this specific instance, I'm not
sure on what Cam Miller is all done throughout his career,
but what I can say is Anthony Richardson needed that time.
He needed all of those reps. He needs to be
in cam He's fighting for a job. He's not there
this offseason, so it's it's inexcusable for him to miss that.
(09:10):
From what you're saying last night, that read right, that's
what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I do want to say that, Yeah, yes, you've been injured.
You should be studying film and still trying to get
it even though you're injured.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yes, and I don't. I can't argue with that. My
point is is that even if he gets it, anytime
he gets hit, he's hurt. Yeah, And that's so with
Cam Newton, I think is a great example. I would
rather take Cam Newton, have eight years of Cam Newton
and have him be the type of player that he
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was both running the football and throwing the football then
trying to just make him into a passer and take
away the running game. I think that that's at some
point josh Allen is not going to be able to
run like he runs right now. And Josh Allen's developed
into a great passer. Cam Newton could throw a rocketball
sometimes thirty yards over the head of the receiver, but
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Anthony richardson game. Richardson's game is built on his athleticism
and his arm and everything that he can do with
his legs and feet, and you have to be healthy
to be able to do that. So there's a physicality
towards the game. And if Anthony Richardson is not able
to be physical because he gets hurt every time that
he gets hit, I don't know aw he's going to
be a viable quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
You make excellent points, you have to also be able
to just do the job. Though just having the athleticism
and being injured doesn't help. But like at this point,
I still I'm standing he should have already progressed from
his rookie season on how to read that play.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I can't get wrong, you.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Know, like, and you're not wrong either. You're not wrong either.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
That the point is like he keeps getting injured and
he can't get out there, so it's like it's almost
it's like like we're just going in a circle.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
We're just going in a circle.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I feel that this this Anthony Richardson line. I called
him a bust earlier this offseason, because there's there's no
doubt about it. Like even there's some I don't want
to say salvage with Bryce Young because that's not the
right word, but Bryce Young is now at least on
an upswing. Like it feels like this hit rock bottom
a rock bottom. I don't know if Anthony Richardson has
hit rock bottom. Great point, he's been given the starting
job both times. Now that he's in a competition, there's
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been maybe a flat like last year there's a game
against the Jets that he flashed and played well. But
ultimately availability is the biggest ability for Anthony Richardson in
my mind. And Monci, this is a This is a
departure from something that I said two years ago. I
said this about Anthony Richardson. I was doing a show
with Brian no leading up to the twenty twenty three
(11:36):
NFL Draft. This is what I said about the then
Florida quarterback and what I felt about his future in
the National Football League.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
I almost think Anthony Richardson has to go number one.
It's not meant to be hot. Take now this out there.
He's the best quarterback in the draft. But I use
the prices right example, how many times you go on
price is Right and you're trying to win a car, Right,
Let's go for the car instead of just setting you know,
settling for the for the exercise equipment, right, You're going
(12:05):
for the car. And that's what I think Anthony Richardson is.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
He's the the.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Automobile that you want to win on the price is right. Yeah,
you know, be nice to have Bryce Young, be nice
to have CJ.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Stroud.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
But if you can go away with the automobile and
winning on the price is right, it's what.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You want to do.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
And how many times are you going to be on
the price is right to win that to win that car?
And I think that's who Anthony Richardson is. Like the
game tape says, one thing, you can watch Bryce Young,
you can watch CJ. Stroud, and you can watch Anthony
Richardson playing games this past fall, and I get it.
Stroud and Bryce Young are gonna be you know, head
and you know head and shoulders above what Anthony Richardson is.
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But if you can turn him into Josh Allen, that
is an absolute win for your franchise. Anthony Richardson to me,
is the car on the price is right that you're
gonna go for it no matter what. And so that's
why I start to think, like, if you're a team
and I'm not take the Bears. The Bears have Justin Fields,
see how it works out. He could be their car
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for the future. But it's for a team like the Colts,
like the Texans who are sitting there at too. Maybe
it's the Raiders, you know, trying to trade up if
you get to that number one spot. I think he
got to take Anthony.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Richardson all right.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
First of all, I rather play Planko. Second of all,
he is the car.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
He is the.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Car that you they're not giving you, you know, a Kia.
I have a ky I love my Kia, but Kia
is not very expensive. He just won, you know, a Maserati.
And then they're like, oh great, you have to pay
the taxes on it, and you're like, I don't have
those taxes.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I can't afford this. It's that's the situation.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
And like I, I hear you were you weren't right,
you weren't all right.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
But you weren't the only one.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
A lot of people felt like Anthony Richardson had a
really high ceiling even after his rookie year where he
had moments that you were like, this guy is gonna
be really good. He has the potential to be really
good injuries. Everybody was like, no, it's this Rooki year,
and then the injuries haven't gone anywhere. We're kind of
like in limbo with Anthony Richardson, and that's worse than
hitting rock Bottom.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I caught astray from myself by also saying Justin Fields
could be the future at Chicago, So so I I,
I I get it, I and I love that you
stood up for me in a way of that other
people felt.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
It's so many people and I even saw it too.
But this limbo we're in, it's it's worse than hitting
rock Bottom.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I don't think we're in limbo. And the game show
I should have used is Let's make a Deal. As
much as that show annoys me right now, I'm not
a fan of Let's make it there is they win,
and there's the zonk. And what I didn't what I
didn't take into account was that Anthony Richardson could be
a zonk. And that's what that's what he's been so far.
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There's the car on the other end, at least on
the prices right. Maybe you do get exercise equipment or
you leave with nothing, but there's something about getting zonked
on the on. Let's make a deal. That's the better option.
In explaining that, I really didn't take into account of losing. Sure,
I just said, let's go for the jackpot. See people
play spelling bee on prices right, one of my favorite games. Look,
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you could have five thousand dollars, or you could try
to win a car, like let's go for the car. Okay,
you could have four thousand, or because you only have
a c up there on the board, prices a right.
Fans know exactly what I'm talking about. They're like, no,
I'm going for the car. That was me in this
with Anthony Richardson, just like, just go for it.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Keep going.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And I watched every game that C. J. Stroud played
in his college career. In fact, I took him for
granted for how good he was in his college career
at Ohio State. But I was still willing to be like,
if you want to hit the jackpot, goal for it.
But I crapped out, hit the zonk, didn't win. And
that was me two years ago on Anthony Richardson. So
I'm not trying to talk out of both sides of
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my mouth. Was completely wrong on the Analo And the
reason that I'm wrong, Nancy is as he said, he's
going to be back next week. But who's to say
that he's not going to get injured the next time.
Who's to say he's not gonna tap out the next time,
which is another thing that has labeled him in his
career for tapping onto the game that he had last year,
I believe against the Houston Texans, Like those are those
are all the things that have happened with Anthony Richardson
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And just when you want it again, how many chances
can you give the guy before zonking out yourself?
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:25):
He he do you remember we were sitting here when
we got the news that Daniel Jones was being signed
signed by the Colts and there was going to be
a quarterback competition, and.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I made a comment.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
I was like well, if Daniel Jones wins that job,
that's it for Anthony Richardson, Like that's the story.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
That's gonna be the story.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Sure, and then instead we actually he gets hurt, and
it's like I don't even know. I feel like this
is limbo, like we he's just staying afloat and so
he's not zonked completely, right, He's not.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
He's gonna they're still wondering.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yes, but he's zonked because he can't play, he can't
stay on field. Like that's like, that's my that's my
takeaway on it, in the Daniel Jones part of it,
because I've actually read some Daniel Jones slander on X today.
At least Daniel Jones is available right now, and that's
that's the issue. He may not be better, he probably
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isn't better than Anthony Richardson, but at least he's available,
which is half of the equation that you need it,
maybe even more so than what Anthony Richardson has provided
you so far. By the way, where was moncey sound
of talking about Daniel Jones. We had to have me
give away the double stray so my own self and
(17:38):
I didn't realize. Thanks for keeping the Justin Fields part
in as well for us.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
We know how much you liked to talk, so I
was just saying that Jay, I'll shut up.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
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Speaker 2 (18:36):
Or wherever you get your podcasts. Not one, not two,
not three, but now four objects have been thrown on
the court. Three not full.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
At WNBA games, not sitable for work items.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I don't want to and I'm sure that we could
probably say it, but I just don't want to keep
on saying it and saying it and saying it. We
know what we're talking about. Last night there was a
purple one thrown out onto the floor, but I felt
last night it jumped the shark. I felt that last
night's action in the WNBA game, where now it's enough
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is enough. I don't know if those things again happened
in three like deaths, but the fourth seemed like a
little too much, Manzi. Last night in the WNBA you.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Could even argue maybe the third one was a little
bit too much. I agree, it's not funny anymore. And
I thought it was funny the first time. I'm not
gonna lie. I thought it was funny seeing that green
color thing go flying.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
It was funny. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
But now it's like, okay, can we move on from it?
Because if you're just gonna keep doing this, then the WNBA,
the product that they're trying to push at a time
when your stars are hurt, this is the last thing
the w NBA needs that this is the topic of conversation. Oh,
let's look up if it something went flying last night.
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We're not looking up Angel Reicie's stats because she's not playing.
You're not looking up Kaitlin Clark's SATs because she's not playing,
and Paige Becker's is playing, but she's on a on
a team that's ever good, and so it's just like,
what are this is what people are looking up, and
that's bad.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
And it's not funny.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
It's just it's it's getting to the point where it
is becoming disrespectful. Yes, I agree with it, it's becoming disrespectful.
And even Sophie Cunningham her tweet after the first of
the second when she's like, you're gonna hit one of
us and one almost hit her. That was funny, Like
even some of these players are trying to make light
of it, but at some point.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
It's straight up just disrespectful.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
And whoever does it next, I hope you spend a
week in jail, a week and week in jail so
nobody else does it, because because if you just tell
them that, okay, you're gonna be in detention for a
couple of hours.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Some other somebody else is gonna.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Do it, Yes, so a week in jail an example.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Yes, or else it's going to keep happy or other
items are going to be thrown.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I think there's going to be an There would be
a turn with the fans of of who would do it.
So I think it would be easy to capture whoever.
At first, like it's funny, like when we even when
we saw it in the Buffalo Bill's game, like you're
just like, all right, that's Bill's mafia. It is what
it is, and it is.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
It is different when it's a men completely, it's different.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And that's why it's actually funnier. In the NFL. It's
fun actually, I do, especially when people are kicking it
because nobody, again, nobody wants to nobody wants to grab
or do anything with it. But I got to the
point last night and I don't know if it was
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because it was a different color or what the reason was,
but it just crossed the line. And now Cheryl Reeve
of the Minnesota Lynx went off on the conversation, and
I think what she said was correct, and to your point,
it's been very disrespectful. I started thinking of because I'm
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a parent, and if you're taking kids to games and
this is now happening, they're going to start to ask questions.
And I don't know the question that I would have,
and I don't I hope it doesn't sound like get
off my lawn, guy, But I know that the WNBA
does cater to children and young girls and bringing them
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in and youth teams, and you would have games of
the afternoon because it's easier for those fans to attend.
At first, it was funny, ha ha, you see it,
And now I'm digging in deeper and saying like, I
just don't know, like how I would explain that. And
if I was a parent my kid loved basketball, I
would hate to have to have that have to be
(22:52):
the conversation on the way home, especially if the crowd
and everybody was making something about it.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
You're you're a one hundred percent right that the WNBA
does bring a very friendly crowd.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
They purposely have those early games.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
I don't know what you say to kids that are
there and asking what is that again? First time funny,
but now it doesn't seem like it's going away, especially
because they came out and took responsibility for it that
they were trying to promote a crypto coin of some sort.
And I'm gonna say what happened last night was a copycat,
not the people who took responsibility for it.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
So it's just gonna keep.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Happening unless something bad happens to the next person who
does it. And it doesn't even have to be law enforcement. Imagine,
just imagine Angel Reese gets hit in the head with one.
People are gonna lose their minds. Sure in the arena,
they're gonna be it's gonna be people taking the person down.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
It's not even gonna be LA enforcement taking the person down.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I think that Sophie Cunningham has been great throughout this
because she made the tweet and then she gets hit
by number three and she goes on her own podcast
explains that she's having conversations with her mom, you know,
about this, and she's like, I never in my wildest
dreams thought I up to that point that's funny. Last
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night it just stopped being funny anymore. It did, and
I came across that on my timeline just like okay,
all right this again, Like I just it's one of
those things where you don't know where the line is crossed,
and I felt that it ended up being crossed last night.
It was funny for us, it's funny for social media, money,
for people our age. Now I'm trying to think of
the other people that could be affected, including the players
(24:30):
and coaches. I mean, at some point you're being mocked
in whatever way, and that can't feel good. And then
I think about just explaining it to your kids if
you're bringing them to a game, and that's not why.
It's bad enough, Like I worry about, like I think
about like fan behavior. I'm like, I don't want to
take my kid to a game. And we've seen fights
in you know, ballparks and the football stadiums, and I
always feel bad for the parents who are like trying
(24:52):
to keep away their kid in a Dak Prescott Jersey,
you know, or something like that, or you know Clayton
Kershaw Jersey and there's a fight that's breaking out and
you're trying to protect them. How do you explain that,
because that's a world that you don't want them in.
How do you explain this? I have I have no idea.
I wouldn't have no idea what to say, and just hope,
just hope that they didn't see what was actually thrown
onto the court.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Oh yeah, no, that's hope that it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
The way social media is, it's at your fingertips. It's
at your fingertips to see it. It's it's disrespectful at
this point, there's no question about it. You could even
argue it was disrespectful the first time. But the first
time it just was funny. It was funny that green
thing flying around.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
It was funny.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Now not so much show of hands. I know this
doesn't work in the audio medium. Well, there's five of us.
Mancy and I are both have our hand raised. I'm
thinking that it crossed the line last night. How many
of you felt that it crossed the line last night
in the w NBA. Okay, okay, okay, I'm gonna say
I thought was the third time I thought this has
(25:53):
been gotten old? After the third you thought even the
third to yes.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Because you okay, it comes down to the very fundamental
idea that you're going to hurt somebody. You can't throw
things from the crowd, period period. So even if it's
funny and it's a rubber device or whatever, an object.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Cutting him got hit by the third one, right, yeah, yes, yeah,
but she's kind of part of it, that's what that's
what kind of made it funny. And then that she's
kind of played along with it. So that's why I
guess I wasn't necessarily offended by the third one.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
In a fifth and a sixth, it's going to just
happen until we're just like, okay, stop, no one's amused
by this anymore.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
And even if they do no bag or clear bag policy,
it's like, you just put this in your pocket or something,
drip it around your leg.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I'm telling you, I'm telling you, that's all you got
to do. And that's what they're doing. That's what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yes, yeah, just put it in your pocket.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Your pocket.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
All these girls were coming up to me in the concourse.
I have no idea why. I have no idea why.
I was just walking to get a soda and then
like twenty girls came up to me and we're like,
what's up? Even a couple of even a couple of bags.
Speaker 9 (26:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
It was like, yeah, I didn't have to pay for
any of this, sixty eight dollars worth of food, none
of it.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
None of it, And you don't know why.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
She's woncil, so I'm dan byer Isaac long Grown is embarrassed.
I'm pursing her. She's the one that said to put
it into your pockets, because I think I figured the
neon green aspect of it would make it tough to
hide anyway if you had it, and a how do
you think?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
What do you think they put it?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I don't know, I don't know. I don't want to know.
I don't want to know. I hope we don't see
it anymore. You don't throw it like a football. It's
like end over end right like that's yes, yes, like
a boomerang. I did ax throwing last night. I imagine it's fast, okay, okay,
all right, now it's jumped a show. Now it's over
(27:44):
with all right. It's the Doug Gottlit Hike here on
Fox Sports. Frigia. Oh geez, all right, we're done. We're done.
We may be done for good. I don't know. Yeah, yes,
I've tried to keep it above water as much as
we could, and now I think we're sitting day. Thanks
for listening to The Doug Gotleep Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
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Speaker 2 (28:18):
I don't know if the Jacksonville Jaguars could beat the
Kansas City Chiefs, but today they do. On Fox Sports Radio,
We're gonna talk about Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs in
about fifteen minutes or so. Because Mahomes had some interesting
comments to make about his performance, we'll just leave it
at that about his performance in one certain area. Yeah,
(28:40):
that's in fifteen minutes, but we start in Jacksonville. This
doesn't happen too often, but Mancy, I'm telling you why
it's happening and the reason why it's happening. And this
is the whole reason behind Jacksonville trading up in the draft.
If I were to say to you, Mancy, name me
(29:02):
a famous Dallas cowboy.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
You know you just did this to me the other day, right.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Okay, just any Dallas cowboy could be current, could be
former cowboy, could be could be current former Dak Prescott.
Let's just say that perfect, all right. What about if
I were to say to you give me a give
me a New England Patriot, famous New England Patriot, current
or former Tom Brady Kansas City Chief Patrick Mahomes. All right, look,
(29:30):
this is this is really good Indianapolis Colts pastor former.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Pastor, uh Peyton Manning.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
There you go like this is this is look and
I'm going to put you off the hook. Iowa, Sam, Okay,
I'm gonna ask you give me a famous Minnesota Viking. Anyone?
I got one? Yes, Randy Moss, perfect, that's perfect. There
(29:56):
are no wrong answers here. What about if I said
Detroit think of that running back? Why am I spacey today?
Speaker 6 (30:01):
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
From Minnesota? Adrian Peterson, I'm.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Slow today, He's still it was still thinking.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I was like staring off into space on that one
Philadelphia Eagle. Anybody want Donovan McNabb All right, ron Jo
wars kat Okay, okay, all right now, now we're starting
to go into interesting territory.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
When I say Jacksonville Jaguar, who do we say? Exactly
my point? See, we could do this for thirty one Titans.
Steve McNair, Eddie George, like, we've got it. Now there
are jaguar players that we know, but there's never been
a true star in Jacksonville. Did somebody else just just
(30:45):
tweet in Ceedee Lamb when we asked about the Cowboys
that they went in on the Packers and say Brett
fav or Aaron Rodgers. So when Jacksonville trades up to
get Travis Hunter and they give Cleveland their first round
pick next year as part of the deal, they weren't
necessarily only doing it because Travis Hunter could do two
(31:07):
things for them offense and defense. They're doing it because
this franchise is dying, dying for a star. And we
see how stars work in the NBA and for the NFL.
Even though it seems like nothing affects the NFL whatsoever,
there are stars within the game. They're just there are
(31:27):
and they have never really had one. And that's why
I think Travis Hunter is so important to them. And
what I love about the Jacksonville Jaguars and why they're
on the same page is they've tried a bunch of
different things, right. They tried to bring an urban Meyer
to change the direction and put in his style and
his stamp. Well, that doesn't work out, So let's just
(31:49):
bring in a guy who can fix Trevor Lawrence and
who won a Super Bowl, Doug Peterson. That ends up
fizzling out in Jacksonville. So now you're bringing Liam Cohen
and you're going to try to do something different as
you now are making inroads for all of the times
you've played in London. Manzi, they finally have a superstar.
And I love ow Jacksonville is leaning in to Travis
(32:11):
Hunter being a superstar.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
I'm with you because when the story of Travis Hunter
came out that he still wanted to play both defense
and offense in the NFL, most people were like, that's
not gonna happen. You can't possibly do that and be
successful at it. I think Derrick Henry was the most
recent one who just said it's like, yeah, in theory,
that's great, Like, Okay, you can do that, but can
(32:33):
you really do that for an entire game, for an
entire season, for your entire career. Like the idea of
it sounds awesome, especially when you have a show Hey
Otani in La the Unicorn, Like the idea sounds really cool,
but I feel like there was so much pushback from
former players current players that it's like that's it's not
gonna work in the NFL, and yet here is Jacksonville,
(32:57):
and like, we're still gonna try, even though all of
you are telling us it can't possibly work and be successful,
We're still gonna try.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
And I love that. I don't know how it's gonna go.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I also wonder if there are if the NFL themselves
or like coaches, young coaches in college are hoping that
Jacksonville doesn't do this, because you know, there's gonna be
young kids out there that the minute they see this,
they're gonna be like, well, if you can do it,
I can do it. And the reality is like, no,
just because Steph Curry can shoot the ball like that
doesn't mean you can. Just because Travis Hunter can do
(33:31):
this doesn't.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Mean that you can.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
And I feel like maybe that's the only side of
it that I wonder if if people are against Jacksonville
actually jumping all in.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
But I like it. I like it. I wasn't expecting it.
There was so much pushback.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
It's very easy, especially the chairs that you and I occupy,
or I'm sitting in a chair, you're standing, but in
the spots that we occupy to say can't do it right,
can't do it.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah, can't do it.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah, it's easy to sit there and say it can't
be done. You need to focus on one or the other.
What I'm curious about is is what's the bar, Like,
what's the bar for Travis Hunter offensively? Where we're like,
this is a success. What's the bar defensively? Because when
the Jaguars released this depth chart, he's first team offense,
second team defense right now, and so then that tells
(34:18):
me you're really leaning into this as as something and
I feel we compared Travis Hunter to Dion Sanders, who
was the best cornerback in the National Football League who
played on offense. I'm not going to quiz you guys,
but I'm going to ask the question, does anybody here
have an idea of what Deon's best season was? Receiving anyone?
(34:43):
It was thirty six catches for four hundred and seventy
five yards and one touchdown. That was it. That was it. Now,
we put Deon on a pedestal because you play play
baseball and football at the same time. But when we're
talking about a two way player just in football, we
also point to Deon Sanders and say, well, what can
what did Deon Sanders do, that was it. That was
(35:03):
his best season. He didn't have a season with more
than seven catches after that year in Dallas in nineteen
ninety six. That was it. So if Travis Hunter goes
out and has more than five hundred yards receiving and
forty catches, it may be the best two way player
that we've seen, considering what Deon Sanders actually did. And
(35:24):
I just love the fact that Jacksonville is saying, you
know what, like truly, Monci, the team's success is dependent
upon Trevor Lawrence and whether he is healthy and whether
he can play or not. The team's popularity is dependent
on Travis Hunter, and they're leaning full bore into that.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
You're not wrong and going with that focus thing.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Trevor Lawrence came out and said, like, yeah, I want
him to just focus on offense because I want him
to catch the ball.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I want to throw him the ball.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
So it's I know they're they're making it out to
be that they are going to use him on both
sides of the I wonder if when Week one comes around,
if it's really gonna be like that, or if right
now they're just testing the water, like you said, bringing
the eyes bringing the attention to Jacksonville because everybody.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Is interested to see how this is gonna go.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yes, everyone, this is the most intriguing storyline right now
for me. Shador Sanders probably coming in close to the
two and three when it comes to him starting with
the Browns in this preseason game. But everyone wants to
see how Travis Hunter handles doing this because we've never
seen it, and so I don't know what's gonna happen
once preseason is over, And I wonder if Trevor Lawrence
(36:34):
will have any say on this also as his quarterback
of I want you to focus on offense.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Well, I'll say this, I think Liam Cohen will have
the ultimate say because he's the head coach and I
get Trevor Lawrence's need. But whatever Liam Cohen ends up
deciding is what's going to happen. Because here's what the
head coach had to say earlier this week. Do you
think he can be offensive and defensive rookie of the
Year in the same year.
Speaker 9 (37:00):
I do think it's possible. He is committed man like
he is committed to driving not just himself, but his
teammates as well, and I think that his teammates, like
these guys are challenging him every single day, like he
doesn't get a free pass because he was the second
overall pick in the East, Travis Hunter like they are
in his grill, trying to jam him up, trying to
(37:20):
hem him up, trying to make it as hard as
they can possibly make it for him in a great way,
like in the most healthy way as possible, where they're
going at it and chirping at each other. But it's
truly guy's iron sharpening iron. That's what it feels like.
And I wouldn't expect anything less from those guys.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
That was Liam Cohen with Rich Eisen earlier this week.
So Mancy, it's not even the question of can he
play both ways? It's can he excel to the point
where he's the rookie of the year in both And
they're leaning into it, Like I think that's that's amazing.
I think that that's great because there's so many so
much I can't, he can't, they can't, we can't, And
(37:59):
here Jacksonville is just completely leaning into it. And time
will tell. We'll find out in Week seventeen. Week eighteen
on how Travis Hunters has progressed but in mentioning Dion Sanders,
no better guy to be your college coach and mentor
throughout your you know, developing years into a professional than
having the guy that everybody is also comparing you to.
(38:21):
And I know Dion believes in Travis Hunter, and Liam
Cohen believes in Travis Hunter, and apparently his teammates believe
in Travis Hunter. I think it's amazing what Jacksonville is
doing and the reason why they are doing so may
have dollar signs at the end of it, but this
team needs a superstar and they're leaning into it.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
And I love it, even if it is for dollar signs.
This is the right move. Like you said, they traded
up for him. How crappy would have been if you
traded up for him and then you're like, no, he's
just going to focus on one side of the ball.
They'd be like there was a point, Yeah, it was
a boy. This we that's not what we want to
see in Travis Hunter. And with so many no's and
so many like you just said, you can't do this,
(38:56):
it's refreshing to see Jacksonville take this other approach.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Takes a big, big man to admit he's wrong, sometimes,
Moncey Belanios, takes a big, big woman to admit her faults.
Somebody today on this show was dead wrong, dead wrong,
not dead giveaway, dead wrong when it comes to Anthony
Richardson and his career as an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I think a lot of people feel that way.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Dan, you think a lot of people also feel that
you're dead r.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Uhhu that they were dead wrong on Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
We are a show of truth, We are a show
of character integrity. We will not shy away from some
of our faults. One of us here was dead wrong
about Anthony Richardson. We're going to get to that in
a second. By the way, welcome in. It's a Friday Friday,
and here's your bonus. Moncey and I will be with
(01:11):
you on Fox Sports Radio for the next four hours.
So we're in for Doug gottliegu today. Doug was in
for the Herd doing Colin Cowherd. We are then going
to be in for Cavino and rich coming up at
five o'clock Eastern time, two Pacific. So we got four
hours and we're not doing it by ourself. Monzi. Ryan Berschinger.
Ryan Berschinger is here, as is Iowa Sam. And you
heard Isaac at the news desk. That's right, all right,
(01:33):
So last night you're at that news desk, yes, and
you're about to take in some preseason.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Football exciting right Here.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Comes Anthony Richardson out on the field, ready to go,
and what do you see?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I see what feels like a glitch in a video game. Okay,
that's what I see? And like, did he just get
did anybody? What is he down on the floor with
the game just started? What happened?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I felt like a glitch in the video game when
I just saw a guy b line and take him
down in his what.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Third play, second snap was that?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
It happened so fast it felt like a glitch in
the system.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
This is this doesn't happen in preseason games. No, okay,
And there is something that needs to be said about
how this play happened last night, because there's a there's
a much bigger topic that we're going to get to.
I remember asking former NFL lineman now Fox Sports host
(02:35):
Jeff Schwartz about this because Patrick Mahomes would always play
in preseason games, and now we're seeing a little bit
more of a trend where guys are playing more. At
least last night, we saw Joe Burrow play where you're
going to get some of the starters getting some action
in the preseason and not being held out entirely. And
Jeff said, look, you can scheme things up in a
(02:58):
way where Patrick Mahomes is not going to get touched,
but there's things that you can do within that quarter
of the game where he's not gonna get blindsided, he's
not gonna get crushed. He's not going to do any
of those things because they're the Chiefs and their Patrick Mahomes,
and Patrick Mahomes knows what he's doing. That was not
the case last night for the Indianapolis Colts. And by
(03:20):
Jeff Schwartz's review, by Kurt Warner's review by Chase Daniel's review.
The issue with Anthony Richardson getting sacked last night was
not on the Colts offensive line.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Or the second third stringers.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yes, it was none of their faults. The fault was
on Anthony Richardson. And so Anthony Richardson gets leveled and
he doesn't read the play correctly. He had a hot
route because a guy was coming in clean and the
NFL players can break it down and you can find
it on social media much better than what I would
(03:55):
be able to. But the point is is he had
a hot route, didn't hit the running back out of
the backfield or the other option, and got absolutely leveled.
So all of the discourse that you may have heard
it was solely on Anthony Richardson's shoulders last night of
why he got hit and why that's different from, say,
something that the Kansas City chief Sir Patrick Mahomes would do.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
It really did seem that way, even though it happened
so fast, because my perception on it.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It happened fast. He didn't even look to that side
of the field.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
He did not, and being a quarterback is the hardest
job in sports, I think it is. He didn't even
look to that right side so I was like, was
was it on him?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Or was it did somebody else miss block? Miss step?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I don't know, but reading all of those former NFL players,
former quarterbacks saying no, it was on him, and in
the moment I thought that, but I couldn't verify because
I've never played that position, you know what I mean.
I was like, did somebody miss the block? And that's
why it was a clean straight I'm telling you, a
glitch in the system.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I couldn't believe that nobody was around him. Dude took
a hit without even knowing it was coming.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
You say it's a glitch, It's like me playing Madden
on Madden level, like when I'm still like on the
one that's like right above rookie. Like that's what it is.
Like a guy came and clean and sacked. You're like,
uh oh yes. Anthony Richardson gave an explanation on what
happened on the play last night in Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
I just got to get my eyes just be able
to know react to that. But just five man pro
just playing hot, you know, I just gotta be on
my p's and q's when comes to that. It was
just gonna be hard for me to see anyway because
my eyes are looking a certain way. But how's he
got to be keyed on when when everybody bringing pressures
like that, I started was about to be the nickel,
but they brought it from the other side, So I
got to be ready to just get the ball out.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
So he took full responsibility. He did, and I feel
that that that is good of Anthony Richardson. That's not
the whole story. The whole story with Anthony and Richardson
throughout his career hasn't been necessarily the production, which has
been a major part of it. It's also manzi been
the availability. And last night he gets clobbered. His pinky
(06:02):
ends up looking like it's throwing up a gang sign
like it is. It looked like a compass like it was.
It was knocked out of sorts on the one hit.
And this is the problem with Anthony Richardson. He hasn't
been available to be able to grow as a quarterback
(06:23):
because he is always getting injured. And so we look
at last night and we say, well, he's got to
be able to make that read. All the former players
are saying they got to be able to make that read.
I can I agree with that, I will take their
word for it. I'll take Anthony Richardson's word for it.
But the ultimate, the ultimate, overlying thing is that Anthony
Richardson has not been available to progress in his career,
(06:45):
which he has needed to do because when he entered
the NFL he was as raw of a prospect as
there was in twenty twenty three. So now he's hurt again.
Missed some a camp this year, missed a bunch of time.
His rookie last year missed time as well. He's always
going to get hurt and there's never going to be
(07:06):
a time where he's going to be healthy enough in
his career to stay unscathed and be able to get
into a rhythm and learn the things that he needs
to learn. That is the biggest issue that I see
last night is it's not that Anthony Richardson missed the
hot route, which I think is the obvious, and so
he got hurt again, and thank goodness for him. It's
not a serious injury with his finger, but it's a
(07:27):
dislocated pinky And every time everything happens, there seems to
be something going wrong with Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
A dislocated pinky on his throwing hand also not on
the other one, and he said he was able to
grip the ball on the sideline and that he was
going to be fine.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
He's day to day.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
In fact, they're already talking that he's going to be back,
probably in time to play for their next preseason game.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
But I feel that I agree with you, Dan totally.
The injuries are a big part of it. But despite
the injuries, I feel like you should be progressing. You
should still learn to make that read.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Even if you've been injured, you've been in the league,
you've been watching, you need to do that. The Las
Vegas Raiders had the rookie quarterback Cam Miller in the
game and he had a short, little stint, but he
didn't miss the throat.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
He looked elite.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
And so when you see a rookie perform like that,
and then you have Anthony Richardson, who's not a rookie
who has been hurt, it's still kind of like, okay, dude,
so are we done thinking Anthony Richardson has it?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I get what you're saying. I'm not trying to handle
him with kid gloves, but I do think that because
of how how little experience he had coming into the
National Football League leaving after his redchard sophomore year with Florida.
He is the guy that needed all of it, and
some maybe don't. Some guys were maybe in college systems
(08:47):
their all entire career. In this specific instance, I'm not
sure on what Cam Miller is all done throughout his career,
but what I can say is Anthony Richardson needed that time.
He needed all of those reps. He needs to be
in cam He's fighting for a job. He's not there
this offseason, so it's it's inexcusable for him to miss that.
(09:10):
From what you're saying last night, that read right, that's
what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I do want to say that, Yeah, yes, you've been injured.
You should be studying film and still trying to get
it even though you're injured.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yes, and I don't. I can't argue with that. My
point is is that even if he gets it, anytime
he gets hit, he's hurt. Yeah, And that's so with
Cam Newton, I think is a great example. I would
rather take Cam Newton, have eight years of Cam Newton
and have him be the type of player that he
(09:41):
was both running the football and throwing the football then
trying to just make him into a passer and take
away the running game. I think that that's at some
point josh Allen is not going to be able to
run like he runs right now. And Josh Allen's developed
into a great passer. Cam Newton could throw a rocketball
sometimes thirty yards over the head of the receiver, but
(10:03):
Anthony richardson game. Richardson's game is built on his athleticism
and his arm and everything that he can do with
his legs and feet, and you have to be healthy
to be able to do that. So there's a physicality
towards the game. And if Anthony Richardson is not able
to be physical because he gets hurt every time that
he gets hit, I don't know aw he's going to
be a viable quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
You make excellent points, you have to also be able
to just do the job. Though just having the athleticism
and being injured doesn't help. But like at this point,
I still I'm standing he should have already progressed from
his rookie season on how to read that play.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I can't get wrong, you.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Know, like, and you're not wrong either. You're not wrong either.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
That the point is like he keeps getting injured and
he can't get out there, so it's like it's almost
it's like like we're just going in a circle.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
We're just going in a circle.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I feel that this this Anthony Richardson line. I called
him a bust earlier this offseason, because there's there's no
doubt about it. Like even there's some I don't want
to say salvage with Bryce Young because that's not the
right word, but Bryce Young is now at least on
an upswing. Like it feels like this hit rock bottom
a rock bottom. I don't know if Anthony Richardson has
hit rock bottom. Great point, he's been given the starting
job both times. Now that he's in a competition, there's
(11:16):
been maybe a flat like last year there's a game
against the Jets that he flashed and played well. But
ultimately availability is the biggest ability for Anthony Richardson in
my mind. And Monci, this is a This is a
departure from something that I said two years ago. I
said this about Anthony Richardson. I was doing a show
with Brian no leading up to the twenty twenty three
(11:36):
NFL Draft. This is what I said about the then
Florida quarterback and what I felt about his future in
the National Football League.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
I almost think Anthony Richardson has to go number one.
It's not meant to be hot. Take now this out there.
He's the best quarterback in the draft. But I use
the prices right example, how many times you go on
price is Right and you're trying to win a car, Right,
Let's go for the car instead of just setting you know,
settling for the for the exercise equipment, right, You're going
(12:05):
for the car. And that's what I think Anthony Richardson is.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
He's the the.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Automobile that you want to win on the price is right. Yeah,
you know, be nice to have Bryce Young, be nice
to have CJ.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Stroud.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
But if you can go away with the automobile and
winning on the price is right, it's what.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You want to do.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
And how many times are you going to be on
the price is right to win that to win that car?
And I think that's who Anthony Richardson is. Like the
game tape says, one thing, you can watch Bryce Young,
you can watch CJ. Stroud, and you can watch Anthony
Richardson playing games this past fall, and I get it.
Stroud and Bryce Young are gonna be you know, head
and you know head and shoulders above what Anthony Richardson is.
(12:45):
But if you can turn him into Josh Allen, that
is an absolute win for your franchise. Anthony Richardson to me,
is the car on the price is right that you're
gonna go for it no matter what. And so that's
why I start to think, like, if you're a team
and I'm not take the Bears. The Bears have Justin Fields,
see how it works out. He could be their car
(13:05):
for the future. But it's for a team like the Colts,
like the Texans who are sitting there at too. Maybe
it's the Raiders, you know, trying to trade up if
you get to that number one spot. I think he
got to take Anthony.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Richardson all right.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
First of all, I rather play Planko. Second of all,
he is the car.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
He is the.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Car that you they're not giving you, you know, a Kia.
I have a ky I love my Kia, but Kia
is not very expensive. He just won, you know, a Maserati.
And then they're like, oh great, you have to pay
the taxes on it, and you're like, I don't have
those taxes.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I can't afford this. It's that's the situation.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
And like I, I hear you were you weren't right,
you weren't all right.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
But you weren't the only one.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
A lot of people felt like Anthony Richardson had a
really high ceiling even after his rookie year where he
had moments that you were like, this guy is gonna
be really good. He has the potential to be really
good injuries. Everybody was like, no, it's this Rooki year,
and then the injuries haven't gone anywhere. We're kind of
like in limbo with Anthony Richardson, and that's worse than
hitting rock Bottom.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I caught astray from myself by also saying Justin Fields
could be the future at Chicago, So so I I,
I I get it, I and I love that you
stood up for me in a way of that other
people felt.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
It's so many people and I even saw it too.
But this limbo we're in, it's it's worse than hitting
rock Bottom.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I don't think we're in limbo. And the game show
I should have used is Let's make a Deal. As
much as that show annoys me right now, I'm not
a fan of Let's make it there is they win,
and there's the zonk. And what I didn't what I
didn't take into account was that Anthony Richardson could be
a zonk. And that's what that's what he's been so far.
(14:59):
There's the car on the other end, at least on
the prices right. Maybe you do get exercise equipment or
you leave with nothing, but there's something about getting zonked
on the on. Let's make a deal. That's the better option.
In explaining that, I really didn't take into account of losing. Sure,
I just said, let's go for the jackpot. See people
play spelling bee on prices right, one of my favorite games. Look,
(15:21):
you could have five thousand dollars, or you could try
to win a car, like let's go for the car. Okay,
you could have four thousand, or because you only have
a c up there on the board, prices a right.
Fans know exactly what I'm talking about. They're like, no,
I'm going for the car. That was me in this
with Anthony Richardson, just like, just go for it.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Keep going.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And I watched every game that C. J. Stroud played
in his college career. In fact, I took him for
granted for how good he was in his college career
at Ohio State. But I was still willing to be like,
if you want to hit the jackpot, goal for it.
But I crapped out, hit the zonk, didn't win. And
that was me two years ago on Anthony Richardson. So
I'm not trying to talk out of both sides of
(15:58):
my mouth. Was completely wrong on the Analo And the
reason that I'm wrong, Nancy is as he said, he's
going to be back next week. But who's to say
that he's not going to get injured the next time.
Who's to say he's not gonna tap out the next time,
which is another thing that has labeled him in his
career for tapping onto the game that he had last year,
I believe against the Houston Texans, Like those are those
are all the things that have happened with Anthony Richardson
(16:19):
And just when you want it again, how many chances
can you give the guy before zonking out yourself?
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:25):
He he do you remember we were sitting here when
we got the news that Daniel Jones was being signed
signed by the Colts and there was going to be
a quarterback competition, and.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I made a comment.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
I was like well, if Daniel Jones wins that job,
that's it for Anthony Richardson, Like that's the story.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
That's gonna be the story.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Sure, and then instead we actually he gets hurt, and
it's like I don't even know. I feel like this
is limbo, like we he's just staying afloat and so
he's not zonked completely, right, He's not.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
He's gonna they're still wondering.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yes, but he's zonked because he can't play, he can't
stay on field. Like that's like, that's my that's my
takeaway on it, in the Daniel Jones part of it,
because I've actually read some Daniel Jones slander on X today.
At least Daniel Jones is available right now, and that's
that's the issue. He may not be better, he probably
(17:17):
isn't better than Anthony Richardson, but at least he's available,
which is half of the equation that you need it,
maybe even more so than what Anthony Richardson has provided
you so far. By the way, where was moncey sound
of talking about Daniel Jones. We had to have me
give away the double stray so my own self and
(17:38):
I didn't realize. Thanks for keeping the Justin Fields part
in as well for us.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
We know how much you liked to talk, so I
was just saying that Jay, I'll shut up.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Get Moncy on X at Manzy Blanias. You can find
me at dan Byer on Fox. Thanks for listening to
The Doug Gottlieb Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
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Speaker 2 (18:08):
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Speaker 2 (18:36):
Or wherever you get your podcasts. Not one, not two,
not three, but now four objects have been thrown on
the court. Three not full.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
At WNBA games, not sitable for work items.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I don't want to and I'm sure that we could
probably say it, but I just don't want to keep
on saying it and saying it and saying it. We
know what we're talking about. Last night there was a
purple one thrown out onto the floor, but I felt
last night it jumped the shark. I felt that last
night's action in the WNBA game, where now it's enough
(19:20):
is enough. I don't know if those things again happened
in three like deaths, but the fourth seemed like a
little too much, Manzi. Last night in the WNBA you.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Could even argue maybe the third one was a little
bit too much. I agree, it's not funny anymore. And
I thought it was funny the first time. I'm not
gonna lie. I thought it was funny seeing that green
color thing go flying.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
It was funny. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
But now it's like, okay, can we move on from it?
Because if you're just gonna keep doing this, then the WNBA,
the product that they're trying to push at a time
when your stars are hurt, this is the last thing
the w NBA needs that this is the topic of conversation. Oh,
let's look up if it something went flying last night.
(20:06):
We're not looking up Angel Reicie's stats because she's not playing.
You're not looking up Kaitlin Clark's SATs because she's not playing,
and Paige Becker's is playing, but she's on a on
a team that's ever good, and so it's just like,
what are this is what people are looking up, and
that's bad.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
And it's not funny.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
It's just it's it's getting to the point where it
is becoming disrespectful. Yes, I agree with it, it's becoming disrespectful.
And even Sophie Cunningham her tweet after the first of
the second when she's like, you're gonna hit one of
us and one almost hit her. That was funny, Like
even some of these players are trying to make light
of it, but at some point.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
It's straight up just disrespectful.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
And whoever does it next, I hope you spend a
week in jail, a week and week in jail so
nobody else does it, because because if you just tell
them that, okay, you're gonna be in detention for a
couple of hours.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Some other somebody else is gonna.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Do it, Yes, so a week in jail an example.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Yes, or else it's going to keep happy or other
items are going to be thrown.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I think there's going to be an There would be
a turn with the fans of of who would do it.
So I think it would be easy to capture whoever.
At first, like it's funny, like when we even when
we saw it in the Buffalo Bill's game, like you're
just like, all right, that's Bill's mafia. It is what
it is, and it is.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
It is different when it's a men completely, it's different.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And that's why it's actually funnier. In the NFL. It's
fun actually, I do, especially when people are kicking it
because nobody, again, nobody wants to nobody wants to grab
or do anything with it. But I got to the
point last night and I don't know if it was
(21:49):
because it was a different color or what the reason was,
but it just crossed the line. And now Cheryl Reeve
of the Minnesota Lynx went off on the conversation, and
I think what she said was correct, and to your point,
it's been very disrespectful. I started thinking of because I'm
(22:09):
a parent, and if you're taking kids to games and
this is now happening, they're going to start to ask questions.
And I don't know the question that I would have,
and I don't I hope it doesn't sound like get
off my lawn, guy, But I know that the WNBA
does cater to children and young girls and bringing them
(22:31):
in and youth teams, and you would have games of
the afternoon because it's easier for those fans to attend.
At first, it was funny, ha ha, you see it,
And now I'm digging in deeper and saying like, I
just don't know, like how I would explain that. And
if I was a parent my kid loved basketball, I
would hate to have to have that have to be
(22:52):
the conversation on the way home, especially if the crowd
and everybody was making something about it.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
You're you're a one hundred percent right that the WNBA
does bring a very friendly crowd.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
They purposely have those early games.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
I don't know what you say to kids that are
there and asking what is that again? First time funny,
but now it doesn't seem like it's going away, especially
because they came out and took responsibility for it that
they were trying to promote a crypto coin of some sort.
And I'm gonna say what happened last night was a copycat,
not the people who took responsibility for it.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
So it's just gonna keep.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Happening unless something bad happens to the next person who
does it. And it doesn't even have to be law enforcement. Imagine,
just imagine Angel Reese gets hit in the head with one.
People are gonna lose their minds. Sure in the arena,
they're gonna be it's gonna be people taking the person down.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
It's not even gonna be LA enforcement taking the person down.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I think that Sophie Cunningham has been great throughout this
because she made the tweet and then she gets hit
by number three and she goes on her own podcast
explains that she's having conversations with her mom, you know,
about this, and she's like, I never in my wildest
dreams thought I up to that point that's funny. Last
(24:09):
night it just stopped being funny anymore. It did, and
I came across that on my timeline just like okay,
all right this again, Like I just it's one of
those things where you don't know where the line is crossed,
and I felt that it ended up being crossed last night.
It was funny for us, it's funny for social media, money,
for people our age. Now I'm trying to think of
the other people that could be affected, including the players
(24:30):
and coaches. I mean, at some point you're being mocked
in whatever way, and that can't feel good. And then
I think about just explaining it to your kids if
you're bringing them to a game, and that's not why.
It's bad enough, Like I worry about, like I think
about like fan behavior. I'm like, I don't want to
take my kid to a game. And we've seen fights
in you know, ballparks and the football stadiums, and I
always feel bad for the parents who are like trying
(24:52):
to keep away their kid in a Dak Prescott Jersey,
you know, or something like that, or you know Clayton
Kershaw Jersey and there's a fight that's breaking out and
you're trying to protect them. How do you explain that,
because that's a world that you don't want them in.
How do you explain this? I have I have no idea.
I wouldn't have no idea what to say, and just hope,
just hope that they didn't see what was actually thrown
onto the court.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Oh yeah, no, that's hope that it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
The way social media is, it's at your fingertips. It's
at your fingertips to see it. It's it's disrespectful at
this point, there's no question about it. You could even
argue it was disrespectful the first time. But the first
time it just was funny. It was funny that green
thing flying around.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
It was funny.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Now not so much show of hands. I know this
doesn't work in the audio medium. Well, there's five of us.
Mancy and I are both have our hand raised. I'm
thinking that it crossed the line last night. How many
of you felt that it crossed the line last night
in the w NBA. Okay, okay, okay, I'm gonna say
I thought was the third time I thought this has
(25:53):
been gotten old? After the third you thought even the
third to yes.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
Because you okay, it comes down to the very fundamental
idea that you're going to hurt somebody. You can't throw
things from the crowd, period period. So even if it's
funny and it's a rubber device or whatever, an object.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Cutting him got hit by the third one, right, yeah, yes, yeah,
but she's kind of part of it, that's what that's
what kind of made it funny. And then that she's
kind of played along with it. So that's why I
guess I wasn't necessarily offended by the third one.
Speaker 8 (26:20):
In a fifth and a sixth, it's going to just
happen until we're just like, okay, stop, no one's amused
by this anymore.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
And even if they do no bag or clear bag policy,
it's like, you just put this in your pocket or something,
drip it around your leg.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I'm telling you, I'm telling you, that's all you got
to do. And that's what they're doing. That's what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yes, yeah, just put it in your pocket.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Your pocket.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
All these girls were coming up to me in the concourse.
I have no idea why. I have no idea why.
I was just walking to get a soda and then
like twenty girls came up to me and we're like,
what's up? Even a couple of even a couple of bags.
Speaker 9 (26:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
It was like, yeah, I didn't have to pay for
any of this, sixty eight dollars worth of food, none
of it.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
None of it, And you don't know why.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
She's woncil, so I'm dan byer Isaac long Grown is embarrassed.
I'm pursing her. She's the one that said to put
it into your pockets, because I think I figured the
neon green aspect of it would make it tough to
hide anyway if you had it, and a how do
you think?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
What do you think they put it?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I don't know, I don't know. I don't want to know.
I don't want to know. I hope we don't see
it anymore. You don't throw it like a football. It's
like end over end right like that's yes, yes, like
a boomerang. I did ax throwing last night. I imagine it's fast, okay, okay,
all right, now it's jumped a show. Now it's over
(27:44):
with all right. It's the Doug Gottlit Hike here on
Fox Sports. Frigia. Oh geez, all right, we're done. We're done.
We may be done for good. I don't know. Yeah, yes,
I've tried to keep it above water as much as
we could, and now I think we're sitting day. Thanks
for listening to The Doug Gotleep Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
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Speaker 2 (28:18):
I don't know if the Jacksonville Jaguars could beat the
Kansas City Chiefs, but today they do. On Fox Sports Radio,
We're gonna talk about Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs in
about fifteen minutes or so. Because Mahomes had some interesting
comments to make about his performance, we'll just leave it
at that about his performance in one certain area. Yeah,
(28:40):
that's in fifteen minutes, but we start in Jacksonville. This
doesn't happen too often, but Mancy, I'm telling you why
it's happening and the reason why it's happening. And this
is the whole reason behind Jacksonville trading up in the draft.
If I were to say to you, Mancy, name me
(29:02):
a famous Dallas cowboy.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
You know you just did this to me the other day, right.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Okay, just any Dallas cowboy could be current, could be
former cowboy, could be could be current former Dak Prescott.
Let's just say that perfect, all right. What about if
I were to say to you give me a give
me a New England Patriot, famous New England Patriot, current
or former Tom Brady Kansas City Chief Patrick Mahomes. All right, look,
(29:30):
this is this is really good Indianapolis Colts pastor former.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Pastor, uh Peyton Manning.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
There you go like this is this is look and
I'm going to put you off the hook. Iowa, Sam, Okay,
I'm gonna ask you give me a famous Minnesota Viking. Anyone?
I got one? Yes, Randy Moss, perfect, that's perfect. There
(29:56):
are no wrong answers here. What about if I said
Detroit think of that running back? Why am I spacey today?
Speaker 6 (30:01):
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
From Minnesota? Adrian Peterson, I'm.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Slow today, He's still it was still thinking.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I was like staring off into space on that one
Philadelphia Eagle. Anybody want Donovan McNabb All right, ron Jo
wars kat Okay, okay, all right now, now we're starting
to go into interesting territory.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
When I say Jacksonville Jaguar, who do we say? Exactly
my point? See, we could do this for thirty one Titans.
Steve McNair, Eddie George, like, we've got it. Now there
are jaguar players that we know, but there's never been
a true star in Jacksonville. Did somebody else just just
(30:45):
tweet in Ceedee Lamb when we asked about the Cowboys
that they went in on the Packers and say Brett
fav or Aaron Rodgers. So when Jacksonville trades up to
get Travis Hunter and they give Cleveland their first round
pick next year as part of the deal, they weren't
necessarily only doing it because Travis Hunter could do two
(31:07):
things for them offense and defense. They're doing it because
this franchise is dying, dying for a star. And we
see how stars work in the NBA and for the NFL.
Even though it seems like nothing affects the NFL whatsoever,
there are stars within the game. They're just there are
(31:27):
and they have never really had one. And that's why
I think Travis Hunter is so important to them. And
what I love about the Jacksonville Jaguars and why they're
on the same page is they've tried a bunch of
different things, right. They tried to bring an urban Meyer
to change the direction and put in his style and
his stamp. Well, that doesn't work out, So let's just
(31:49):
bring in a guy who can fix Trevor Lawrence and
who won a Super Bowl, Doug Peterson. That ends up
fizzling out in Jacksonville. So now you're bringing Liam Cohen
and you're going to try to do something different as
you now are making inroads for all of the times
you've played in London. Manzi, they finally have a superstar.
And I love ow Jacksonville is leaning in to Travis
(32:11):
Hunter being a superstar.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
I'm with you because when the story of Travis Hunter
came out that he still wanted to play both defense
and offense in the NFL, most people were like, that's
not gonna happen. You can't possibly do that and be
successful at it. I think Derrick Henry was the most
recent one who just said it's like, yeah, in theory,
that's great, Like, Okay, you can do that, but can
(32:33):
you really do that for an entire game, for an
entire season, for your entire career. Like the idea of
it sounds awesome, especially when you have a show Hey
Otani in La the Unicorn, Like the idea sounds really cool,
but I feel like there was so much pushback from
former players current players that it's like that's it's not
gonna work in the NFL, and yet here is Jacksonville,
(32:57):
and like, we're still gonna try, even though all of
you are telling us it can't possibly work and be successful,
We're still gonna try.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
And I love that. I don't know how it's gonna go.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I also wonder if there are if the NFL themselves
or like coaches, young coaches in college are hoping that
Jacksonville doesn't do this, because you know, there's gonna be
young kids out there that the minute they see this,
they're gonna be like, well, if you can do it,
I can do it. And the reality is like, no,
just because Steph Curry can shoot the ball like that
doesn't mean you can. Just because Travis Hunter can do
(33:31):
this doesn't.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Mean that you can.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
And I feel like maybe that's the only side of
it that I wonder if if people are against Jacksonville
actually jumping all in.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
But I like it. I like it. I wasn't expecting it.
There was so much pushback.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
It's very easy, especially the chairs that you and I occupy,
or I'm sitting in a chair, you're standing, but in
the spots that we occupy to say can't do it right,
can't do it.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah, can't do it.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah, it's easy to sit there and say it can't
be done. You need to focus on one or the other.
What I'm curious about is is what's the bar, Like,
what's the bar for Travis Hunter offensively? Where we're like,
this is a success. What's the bar defensively? Because when
the Jaguars released this depth chart, he's first team offense,
second team defense right now, and so then that tells
(34:18):
me you're really leaning into this as as something and
I feel we compared Travis Hunter to Dion Sanders, who
was the best cornerback in the National Football League who
played on offense. I'm not going to quiz you guys,
but I'm going to ask the question, does anybody here
have an idea of what Deon's best season was? Receiving anyone?
(34:43):
It was thirty six catches for four hundred and seventy
five yards and one touchdown. That was it. That was it. Now,
we put Deon on a pedestal because you play play
baseball and football at the same time. But when we're
talking about a two way player just in football, we
also point to Deon Sanders and say, well, what can
what did Deon Sanders do, that was it. That was
(35:03):
his best season. He didn't have a season with more
than seven catches after that year in Dallas in nineteen
ninety six. That was it. So if Travis Hunter goes
out and has more than five hundred yards receiving and
forty catches, it may be the best two way player
that we've seen, considering what Deon Sanders actually did. And
(35:24):
I just love the fact that Jacksonville is saying, you
know what, like truly, Monci, the team's success is dependent
upon Trevor Lawrence and whether he is healthy and whether
he can play or not. The team's popularity is dependent
on Travis Hunter, and they're leaning full bore into that.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
You're not wrong and going with that focus thing.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Trevor Lawrence came out and said, like, yeah, I want
him to just focus on offense because I want him
to catch the ball.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I want to throw him the ball.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
So it's I know they're they're making it out to
be that they are going to use him on both
sides of the I wonder if when Week one comes around,
if it's really gonna be like that, or if right
now they're just testing the water, like you said, bringing
the eyes bringing the attention to Jacksonville because everybody.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Is interested to see how this is gonna go.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yes, everyone, this is the most intriguing storyline right now
for me. Shador Sanders probably coming in close to the
two and three when it comes to him starting with
the Browns in this preseason game. But everyone wants to
see how Travis Hunter handles doing this because we've never
seen it, and so I don't know what's gonna happen
once preseason is over, And I wonder if Trevor Lawrence
(36:34):
will have any say on this also as his quarterback
of I want you to focus on offense.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Well, I'll say this, I think Liam Cohen will have
the ultimate say because he's the head coach and I
get Trevor Lawrence's need. But whatever Liam Cohen ends up
deciding is what's going to happen. Because here's what the
head coach had to say earlier this week. Do you
think he can be offensive and defensive rookie of the
Year in the same year.
Speaker 9 (37:00):
I do think it's possible. He is committed man like
he is committed to driving not just himself, but his
teammates as well, and I think that his teammates, like
these guys are challenging him every single day, like he
doesn't get a free pass because he was the second
overall pick in the East, Travis Hunter like they are
in his grill, trying to jam him up, trying to
(37:20):
hem him up, trying to make it as hard as
they can possibly make it for him in a great way,
like in the most healthy way as possible, where they're
going at it and chirping at each other. But it's
truly guy's iron sharpening iron. That's what it feels like.
And I wouldn't expect anything less from those guys.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
That was Liam Cohen with Rich Eisen earlier this week.
So Mancy, it's not even the question of can he
play both ways? It's can he excel to the point
where he's the rookie of the year in both And
they're leaning into it, Like I think that's that's amazing.
I think that that's great because there's so many so
much I can't, he can't, they can't, we can't, And
(37:59):
here Jacksonville is just completely leaning into it. And time
will tell. We'll find out in Week seventeen. Week eighteen
on how Travis Hunters has progressed but in mentioning Dion Sanders,
no better guy to be your college coach and mentor
throughout your you know, developing years into a professional than
having the guy that everybody is also comparing you to.
(38:21):
And I know Dion believes in Travis Hunter, and Liam
Cohen believes in Travis Hunter, and apparently his teammates believe
in Travis Hunter. I think it's amazing what Jacksonville is
doing and the reason why they are doing so may
have dollar signs at the end of it, but this
team needs a superstar and they're leaning into it.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
And I love it, even if it is for dollar signs.
This is the right move. Like you said, they traded
up for him. How crappy would have been if you
traded up for him and then you're like, no, he's
just going to focus on one side of the ball.
They'd be like there was a point, Yeah, it was
a boy. This we that's not what we want to
see in Travis Hunter. And with so many no's and
so many like you just said, you can't do this,
(38:56):
it's refreshing to see Jacksonville take this other approach.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
She's Monzie Millennio, so I'm Dan Byer It's the Doug
Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Host
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