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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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back in the house in LA. H I hope you're
doing great. The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live every single day,
same bad time, same bad channel, in this case from
Los Angeles, California. Welcome in, And as I told a
gentleman from Chexas and we landed the plane today, he
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asked the lady behind me, how you forward to live here?
I said, you know why LA is so expensive? You
know the answer is because it's worth it anyway. Uh,
welcome in. I hope you're great. The one thing about LA,
it's a little bit like, you know, you're on the
freeway and you get that sort of New York feeling
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like this place is great. It would be a lot better,
Like I don't want wit was it the It wasn't
the Da Vinci Code. It was one of the the
Dan Brown books or whatever that where they where the
idea was it'd be something in the water and would
kill off half the people. Whatever. Which book was that,
(01:31):
I can't remember Google that would you the same guy
who wrote to da Vinci Code. It's like two after
that one. I can't remember which one it is called. Anyway,
was it Inferno? It was Inferno? Right, it was Inferno. Yes,
I read books. I smart, so Dann Brown Inferno. Like, sorry,
I'm gonna spoil it for you. It's like fifteen years old.
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If you haven't picked it up. That's that's a U problem,
not a ME problem. Essentially, Essentially, there's a cult of
people in the world that think the only way to
save the earth is to cut the population in half,
kind of sort of start over. And the way they
do that is something they place in the water where
it makes certainly it makes like a portion of people infertile, right,
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so they can't have kids and that will cut the population.
Sort of genius, sort of diabolical all the same time. Anyway,
there is the moment when you're in crowded places like
this place would be super awesome if like nobody was here.
I used to work in New York City and live
in Connecticut, and I would there'd be a snowstorm in
New York City and you'd like walk around the streets
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like just after the snow had fallen. It was so
quiet and so beautifully. Like, Man, New York be awesome
if there wasn't so many damn people here. And I
say that because I've been watching this John Matier story.
So John Matier is the new quarterback at Oklahoma. By
the way, He is the next savior, right because last
year they had a freshman who is the savior and
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he started three games and they ran him out of town.
But he's Jeob Materier is the new savior of Oklahoma
because Oklahoma football has not been nearly as good as
they want to be over the past four years or
so three four years since Kayleb Williams left. And so
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the thought is that, you know, when Lincoln Riley left
and he took Kayleb Williams with him, they've been searching
for a quarterback, right because they had that incredible run
you know where you have where you have like back
to back to back just stud quarterbacks and even before
Kayleb Williams, you know, for three games, Spencer Rattler was
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the starter. He was the number one ranked prospect and
he went to South Carolina. He's an NFL quarterback. He's okay.
The bigger point is that Materier is he transferred him
from Washington State and he's got to be the dude.
And Oklahoma who's somehow ranked right, and we talked about
rankings yesterday mean nothing, but they have gone out spent
a bunch of mone He got a talented team and
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now have a proven quarterback. He's good and they brought
his offensive coordinator with him, so there's no like learning
a new football language and on paper should be really good.
So you wake up this morning to the gambling allegations,
matear potentially suspended. They're like, oh man, what was he doing?
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So apparently somebody who wants to purport themselves as a reporter,
but we don't actually know who it is because they're
covered under the guys of social media, which is a
bunch of crap. By the way, this is the thing
when they changed the blue check mark, and you can
go like, well, you just feel that way because you
had a blue check mark. You still have a blue
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check but they gave him me mine. I did not
pay for mine. But it used to be like, if
you were somebody, like a reputable reporter, you got a
blue check mark. Now anybody can get it. So what's
the profet? What's the guy's name online who's purporting himself
as a reporter But there's no real person that exists
under that name or or for that for that network.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I believe it's Brian Aguada, I believe is how I
say it. And he purported himself as Valley News Live,
which there's no record of him apparently from the news outlet.
They say they've never hired someone like that. And his
profile pick is of like a North a hockey player
from five years ago from Northeastern.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, so again this is an internet troll. Happened to
me with earlier this year. What year is it, Yeah,
earlier this year, because it was I think this year. No,
it was last year. We lost to Michigan Tech and
somebody acted like they were covering the We act. We
act as the Division III league in Wisconsin, which is
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a really good, probably the best Division three league in
the country that I called Michigan Tech nobody you, which
is the opposite of what I said. I said, everybody
we played is capable of beating us. I don't want
to play nobody you, you know, even THEO. And so again,
somebody essentially took what I said, flipped it and made
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it out like I said it about Michigan Tech. I
was walking down the street in Traverse City, Michigan, last week,
and somebody yelled up, nobody you. But this is where
people suck, so they job materier is And I understand
we're gonna this is something we're forever going to struggle
with now. Is when you did something dumb, or you
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did something that young guys do five seven years ago,
and you're a college football player, what would people say, Ah,
it's a college kid. Now he's a college kid. Yeah,
I still in college. I did way worse in college,
you know, even I mean, you name the guy who's
done something. I mean, Johnny Manzel was running wild, you know,
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and people like, ah, he's just a college kid. It's
a party boy. He made excuses for it. Right now
because these quarterbacks are making seven figures and frankly, because
people were able to legally bet on these games, and
because of transfer, portal, nil, whatever, the professionalization of an
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amateur sport, we treat people differently. I said that about
Spencer Rattler. You guys, I don't know. We all worked
together at the time. I no profet you not, Ryan
whedon't and I'm not sure but Ilo we've worked together
on and off for all eight years I've been here.
But at the time when Spencer Rattler was the starting
quarterback at Oklahoma and he got lustily booed at home
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in like his second game, I'm telling you that was
the moment where you realized college sports had changed to
professional sports where college students feel emboldened to boom and
they weren't necessarily mad that he sucked. There was a
little bit about it, but it was more, you know,
he had the appearance of being arrogant. He had the
ear rings and the whole look. People knew who he
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was from the reality show, and he was costing them
money because they could all gamble on games. So here's
what somebody did that we don't know who it is.
They went and looked at his Venmo account and found
that he had two different times in which he had
sent venmos to somebody else. One time it said sports betting.
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You was USC versus UCLA, and the other one that
said sports betting, and you're like, Aha, got him. So
here's what John Mattier said. Tell me if you guys
buy this. Okay, the allegations that I once participated in
sports gambling are false. My previous Venmo descriptions did not
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accurately portray the transaction in questions, but were instead inside
jokes between me and my friends. I have never bet
on sports. I understand the seriousness of the matter, but
recognize that taking out of context, those Venmo descriptions suggest otherwise.
I can assure my teammates, coaches, and officials at the
end that I have not engaged in any sports gambling.
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And I believe, I believe we'll talk about this a
little bit in the podcast. But I have that same
sort of sense of humor with my friends, where you know,
whether it's coffee or my daughter Harper runs on coffee
and red Bull, and so I guarantee if my Venmo
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was made public, which by the way, I think that
may be the lesson here is like, don't make your
venmo public. But if my Venmo was public. You'd see
crack on there and you're like, wait, you're sending your
money for crack. I was like, no, she was getting
money for Red Bull and coffee, so that's her crack.
So that's like trying to be funny. Makes sense, right,
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I think? I think like we that's kind of become
common speech. If something's really good, it's like crack. It's
so addictive. Yes, we all nodding our head. It's prefet Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I have a friend back in Detroit who who is
Indian and the kind of jokes he makes towards me
on like on venmo. If though, I make sure to
delete them all the time because if anyone saw a
single one of them, it it there. Some of them
are foul, some of them are just absolutely foul. But
that's that's just how we'll talk to each other.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Well, that's how you talk to each other. Why have
you to lead.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Them because I don't just if they're private, sure I
like the joke, but if they're public, it's exactly that thing.
Everyone can see it, and that's like, okay, well I'm
terrified of someone asking me about that.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
At some point, Ryan B, my friend and I on
Venmo used to because Venmo didn't have any character limits,
so we would copy and paste like song lyrics to
entire songs and use them as our descriptions on Venmo.
So like if somebody were to look at Venmo, they'd
see the entirety of like this is how we do it,
just like sitting there on their Venmo like we do.
We do stuff like that where we're just messing with
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each other like crazy because it's not a serious social
media platform. So yeah, I totally believe that this dude
was just just messing around and just made the wrong joke.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Basically, Yeah, yeah, I mean I actually should pull up
my Venmo and see what I've sent to people. But yeah,
I've also done like mine's not public, I don't think
now you said sometimes it'll pop public.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
No, So I think the default is when you like
send something to someone, maybe there's a setting I'm missing,
but like every time I go to start a.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
True lots of things you're missing.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
That.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
That is very true. That is extremely true. But it
always starts when you start the transaction blind. It'll just
set the status to public, and so before you've got
to make sure before you you exit out of it,
before you send it to switch it to private or
unlisted or whatever.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Hey guys, As someone who has never ever used Venmo,
unless absolutely forced to, what exactly is Venmo's rationale for
making any of their transactions public in the first place.
I'm not seeing the benefit of their business or towards
society here. I think it would just be a setup
for trouble Like this.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I feel like it's just like that. That was always
their angle, is like, oh, this is also social media.
They kind of came up in that era where everything
had to have a social media element attached to it,
whereas like what cash app?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I don't. I don't think they have anything like that.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
If that's interesting, Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Are you a v you're not a Venmo guy?
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Uh No, unless forced to. If if we encounter somebody
who only uses like venmo, I guess I'll have my
wife do it. I kind of know how to do zell.
But I'm even freaked out at that. But that's a
really interesting rationale as towards how the current generation just
airs on the side of over sharing and sharing instead
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of not sharing.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
The irony too is like Venmo is not a serious
social media site, but if your information was hacked on Venmo.
That's the most serious thing.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
That could happen to you would be the most Yes, yeah,
well that's like writing year that happened to my parents.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah there there, Zella actually got ACKed and that was Yeah,
that was bad. Luckily everything's fine, but yeah, scary, scary
for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Okay, I just want to make out of uh privacy
rights and privacy. I just want to make sure mine's
mine's private, so you can you can do a lot
of things. But I've you know, like I've sent the
I've nothing, nothing that would be I don't curse or whatever.
I just I just I do think there was a
time in which I like, like, there's one Mike, I
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have the lady who cleans for me, right. I don't
necessarily want that known, nor do I want it known
that she cleans for me. I don't know, right, because then, yeah,
somebody who had like real money could potentially go like
what's in his house? Right, I just checked my gun
and the last stuff. Yeah, but then like a slab
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slob dogs gotta make a mess kind of thing. I
love the story because it's classic you you can take
anything out of context and make it into something. It's
also a sign again, I don't know if if you guys,
here's here's the political one, which was it yesterday that
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President Trump said he's gonna send federal troops into DC. Right,
And this is off of there's a terrible story about
a carjacking in DC, right, and like I get it.
I mean, I carjacking is serious stuff, and uh, inner
cities can be tough places, especially there's bad neighborhoods in
any any city that you're in, you can there's there's
people that you don't necessarily want to hang with. But
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like then the that's like the arbitrary one story made
into being this big narrative whereas apparently again and I
don't know, I haven't been in DC in a couple
of years, apparently the crime is like way down, so
I don't know. But this is like what we do.
We take things and we take a story and something
we twisted kind of out of context, which makes it
makes people hate the media, it does, but it's not
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the media creating this one. This is some Bill Johnson
x y Z whatever, fake hockey player, old picture guy
who's a troll, who who screenshoted you know, a college kid.
Granted he's a well compensated college kid, but he's a
college kid's Venmo account and makes him out to be
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a sports gambler. I do I think there are college
kids dumb enough to put sports betting on their Venmo
account when they're betting on sports? Yes, do I think
they're quarterbacks in college football?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I don't. I don't. There's a general I Q that
that that'd be somebody if they were actually betting on sports.
But this feels like a nothing burger and we'll just
have to see how it plays out. That's John Mattier,
whose new quarterback Oclaomas Doug Gottlieb Show here Fox Sports
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Am I Light in your day? That's the that's the idea.
That's the idea. You know. I don't think there's a
dudes in Like, if you ever want somebody to tune
you out, have them tell you how to raise your children. Right,
(17:44):
I'll tell you how to raise your children. I have
three tour in college, not perfect in any way. I
do give pieces of advice. You know, over time. I'm
and you know, because you lived long enough and you
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know how it goes. And all three of my children,
you know, raised sort of equally. They all have their
own pluses, their own I guess you'd say quirks and
minuses or whatever. But I remember something, and this is
a weird kind of shout out. This is actually my wedding.
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I'm divorced by a wedding anniversary day would be today,
and I have nothing but wonderful things to say about
my ex wife. She's awesome lady. She was married to
me for twenty three years, so we're good. But she
told me something a long time ago. We had neighbors.
When I first went to ESPN, we moved to a
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town called Burlington, and we lived on this could a
sac but they had it's like woods in between houses
or whatever, and so our house was I had like
three acres, was like a long driveway and then next
to us was a really beautiful, much bigger house that
was kind of below and the neighbors were super nice.
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They had two girls, and we didn't have any kids
at the time, and so we were all like, hey,
we don't we love kids, We want to have kids.
Your kids can come over anytime we want. And two
things I remember distinctly about our neighbors, I'll leave them
as nameless. It was one they invited us. So actually
three things we was the first time I learned about
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a counter depth refrigerator. You guys don't want to counter
depth refrigerators, Okay, So there's a certain like amount of
depth for a fridge is a normal depth of a
counter and if you are going to usually a custom
made home or a nicer home, you have to buy
a specific kind of frigerator otherwise it sticks out, it's
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in the way, so it's a little bit more compact.
So we had to order a counter depth fridge because
the people we bought the house of, for whatever reason,
they wanted that fridge to take with them where they
should just left it behind because it fit the house
right anyway, So they were nice enough to leave us
like a college type fridge. So we were first month
or so, we were waiting for this fridge, but our
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neighbors again loaned us this fridge, like don't buy one.
We got one. We put it downstairs in the basement
that then next to the barge. Great so because we
didn't have fridge space. Like it was our first Thanksgiving
in Connecticut. We went to their house and they didn't
have the games on on Thanksgiving, and I remember going like, hey,
are you guys gonna watch the games? Like what games?
Speaker 7 (20:34):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
It's Thanksgiving Football, Lions, Cowboys. I don't know anything else.
But the third thing was an important one was they
didn't let their children have sweets, so their girls would
come over to our house, watch our dogs and dig
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into the sweet cat like we had sweets. They were
gone rappers everywhere. And the whole thing was if you
you say no never, they're just gonna indulge, or when
they go to their friend's houses they will, Whereas if
you teach them moderation, maybe you got a chance to
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keep them away from just being sugarhounds. Does that make sense.
I bring it up because Michael Porter Junior is in
the news. Of course, he won an NBA championship with
the with Denver Nuggets. And you know, remember his brother
John Tay Porter has been accused of I don't think
he's been found guilty of. He's been accused of maybe
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not throwing games, but throwing his own stats on these
prop bets right for his own personal stat line. So
there were two things that he said that jumped out
to me. And this was in a podcast recently, right,
it's in a podcast recently, This is Doug Gotlib show
here on Fox Sports Radio. He said this about his
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own personal vices.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Everybody has different things that they struggle with. That can
go from people to struggle with alcohol, people that struggle
with drug you know, my brother, for example, struggle with gambling.
My vice has always come in the form of women.
And when I'm far from God and like I'm not
in my word, I'm not praying, I'm not prioritizing him
like that seems to be the place that the devil
gets me is in the space of women. My brother, Johntay,
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he never seemed to struggle with that vice. You know,
I never struggle with the gambling addiction. I never struggle
with that vice. God gave me a lot of money
because maybe he figured I could handle it and not
you know, lose myself in that area. And maybe Johnta
he wasn't blessed with tons of money because he struggled
with that area of the idolization of money.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
You know. He also went on to say that like, hey,
if I could make my buddies like ten thousand dollars
right that now you know? Or like here's the thing
about Michael Porter Junior and I I actually I don't
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know him well. I know his dad's some and uh,
I you know his the family is great, but they're
super tight. And the stories go that he wasn't allowed
to have like sleepovers because you don't know what's going
on in somebody else's home. And super super religious and
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super super sheltered. Now you know, Tim Tebow seems to
have come out fine. Yet he was homeschooled and super
religious and super sheltered, but seems to be more than
a productive member of society. I think he actually does
some amazing stuff. He talks about Tebow and things he's
done even after he's played. And this is not an
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attack on Christianity, on Judaism, and he's sort of Jehovah's
witnesses Jehovah's witness where you know, you don't celebrate anything
or Mormonism, but it is the thought of if you
deny kids the ability to do normal kid things, they're
gonna be forced to figure those things out when they
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go to college, when they become adults. And I mean
women as advice, and there's a line out the door, right.
You know how many of you guys have been staring
at your social media because all these sorority girls are
scantly dressed and they're doing dances, uh to celebrate rush which,
by the way, just so we're aware, like the the
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high level rush checks, they're really annoying, like annoying, like you're, yeah,
you came to school to get an mrs degree. We
are well well aware. Anyway, the first my first thought
to my mind is again item, I'm not gonna tell
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anybody how to raise their kids. And we did not
raise our kids to be super religious, to be more spiritual,
but very rarely did they step foot in temple, and
even more rare did they step foot in church. Their
moms Baptists, their dad's Jewish. And if I could go
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back and do it again, not if I would have
forced religion but I think it would have made it
more part of what our family does, right, you know,
once a month we go to temple, once a month,
we go to church, you know, every other month or
something like that. Because there's nothing wrong with whatever your
path is to God, whatever can bring great balance to you.
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But when you maybe over indulge or you overprotect, then
it's it's it's simply a case of they don't know
how to deal with it, right, don't know how to
deal with it. And I mean even Michael Porter's saying,
and do we have that quote where he said, hey, like,
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you give me ten thousand bucks and I can make
you as all ten thousand bucks, Like yeah, as cursing
in it, so we will not bleep it out. I mean,
we know you can make a lot of money selling drugs.
You can't do that. You can make any like well,
drugs are not gambling, like okay, but gambling does have
a certain kind of drug addictive element to it. And
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oh yeah, by the way, it's against the law, rightly,
So why is it against law? Well, because if you
can control your stats just for your boys for one games,
that makes those games illegitimate and once they become illegitimate.
Now it crosses over into entertainment, much like the WWE,
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where that's why I've never been like, well he's a
world champion. Well somebody wrote in a script he's a
world champion. There's nothing really achieved in that anyway. I
just again, I'm I'm not telling you how to raise
your kids. And if you've ever spent time around Michael
Porter Junior, like he's a he's a really nice guy.
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You know, he's a really nice guy. They're very well thought,
very well thought out, very well spoken. But and he admits,
you know, women is his vice, Well would it be
his vice if he had a more I don't want
to say normal. What's the mainstream? Is that that that
that's the term, right or more mainstream high school existence
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where you have to and we do this with college
basketball with basketball players all the time. Right, guys go
to these prep schools and they live in like a
basketball house, and and they takes class with just themselves,
and then they go to college and we we try
and make our guys go to in person class as
much as possible, but they do more and more where
they're just in the facility, just in our locker room.
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And in the gym, and they're like, you want to
go out and be people, and you know, within reason,
make the reasonable college mistakes of relationships and you know,
running having a budget and learning what to spend what
not to spend. Instead, we put them in a bubble,
and when the become adults and you'd let them out
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of the bubble, they don't know how to they don't
know how to deal with it. I less you nod
in your head.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
You're preaching to the choir. And a couple of things
have exacerbated that for this current generation because my kids
are much younger than your kids. Number one, the pandemic.
Number two the iPads. It's a constant struggle for us
as parents to get them away from their iPads, which.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
You say, IM sorry, I was looking at my phone.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Precisely, and ironically I was too. I was on Venmo
coming up with creative descriptions. But that's another story. Because
in their iPads, they have all these online real life
world and they're like more well versed in these simulated
worlds than in real life unfortunately, So it's a constant
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struggle to keep them away. Because when you and I
were growing up, we played outside all day, all weekend.
We roam the neighborhood going from sport to sport, and
kids just play differently these days, meaning they don't play
that way anymore because of accommodation of factors.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, no, you have got to get a set up
a play eight. Yes, you got to set up a
play eight, right, And then most most of the play
is like on a sports team, right, And they don't
play the sport outside of playing the sport with a uniform.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
And they don't how to learn how to referee the
games themselves and settle disputes themselves because there's no like
pickup ball among kids hardly anymore.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
No, no, no, So I'm not telling you that the
Porters raised heathens. This is not me say saying that.
I'm just saying that that extremes on either side. I
think we would all say like, hey, if you can
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avoid those, And by extremes, it's like the kid that
had to get up in the morning and cook breakfast
for his family, for his little brother and make sure
he went to school, do you know, and he came
home and he was the dad of the house because
the parents were out of the house, or maybe there's
only one pair in the house or maybe use or
maybe they just kind of lived on their own. Like
that's one extreme to where they don't have the support
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system needed. The other extreme is to where you bubble them.
They don't have sleepovers, not allowed to do that stuff
because you don't know what happens to those sleepovers. I'm like, yeah,
I mean men, first naked girl I ever saw fast
times a Ridgemont High, right, the cool kid just moved
in down the street, got to have a sleepover, Like
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what is this? We get to watch naked girls and
nobody covers my eyes and we're watching it like this
is cool. Stuff happens to sleepboards. It's the everything in
moderation sort of argument. Everything in moderations. Thanks for listening
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was out of live golf with with a longtime golf fan,
t uh Not Tiger Woods Colin Cowherd over the weekend.
Can you teach our boy how to wear a hat?
Speaker 7 (31:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
For a guy who for a guy who always has
a problem with somebody wearing a hat backwards, he doesn't
know how to wear a hat forwards, Like you don't
wear hat. You don't wear a hat on top of
your hair like that where the hair shows.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Yeah, just when you got when you got good hair.
I used to wearing them, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, Yeah, No, I wear them all the time because
I get terrible were Yeah, We've talked about this. This
is the Doug Gotlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Know
you live, you live in general. I'm not going to
give people away where you live, but you live in Phoenix. Right.
Does anyone in Phoenix call the Diamondbacks the Snakes?
Speaker 7 (32:11):
Uh? No, I'll be honest. I mean I've been here
now three or four years. Not many Diamondbacks come both happening.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
As I said, like once they uh, what's my man's name?
They traded to? Uh the Cardinals? Uh, Paul Paul gold Schmidt. Right.
We used to do a segment when I was on
one of my other networks called Nobody Gives a Schmidt
and it was like all the great things Paul gold
Schmidt does but nobody actually pays attention to because he
plays for the Diamondbacks is a real thing. It's called nobody.
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Nobody gives a Schmidt And uh anyway, yes, there's not
a lot even in the even in the Valley of
the Sun, nobody nobody's like, hey man, how about those snakes?
Speaker 7 (32:54):
No, definitely, yeah, the rattlesnakes in the cactus you're walking around.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, uh okay. As a bunch, how did you think
Shador played?
Speaker 7 (33:04):
Well? I mean he made a couple of really nice throws.
So like, in an individual basis, I kind of on
the podcast last week tried to do like a dues
and does when he comes to looking att preseason and
at the end of the day, making plays regardless whether
you're going up against me or you or going up
against a you know, a starting All pro is always
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a good thing. So being positive making plays. Obviously every
position is differently different, but quarterback supposed to play down
the field completions, touchdown throws. It's a good thing. But
like coaches can be pretty rigid when it comes to
quarterback play their offense. So when I saw that it
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came out that he's still the four string quarterback. People
like Jimmy Haslan can say what he wants. They draft that.
They like Dylan Gabriel more in Shador. They would to
drafted Chador in the third round, like I don't think
they ever wanted it. Now this is where they have
to be careful. There comes a tsunami of publicity because
of this individual. I think k kind of called it
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like a Tebow like thing. Now should Door is a
way better passer than Tebow, But like they better be
careful because that's the easiest way to get fired when
you're probably gonna suck anyway, Just play the guy.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I'd like it to. I think if he get if
he does get cut, it'll be like Kaepernick where anytime
a quarterback goes down to be like, you know, you
should sign a Shador Sanders because he can. He can.
He also just couldn't help himself where he showed up
with somebody else pulling his bag, right, he had his
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little he had his guy, his videographer and a dude
pulling his bag. He just like couldn't help himself. Just
had to be that had to be that that guy. Okay,
So is it surprising to you that he did not
move up to depth chart.
Speaker 7 (34:55):
Uh, not necessarily because when specifically Dylan Gabriel again, they
drafted him a bubble like on the second day where
you got to give some money and it's a valuable pick.
So like, just because he was injured and the guy
had a good preseason game, they're not going to make
a dramatic move. I do think though, once the regular
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season starts, if they start losing games. You know, here's
the thing. If you do throw Dylan Gabriel in the
game and he looks bad and no one will want
to see him again. So it's like the Flaco Kenny
Pickett thing. Like I am not a canny Pickett guy
at all. Everyone can understand at least, I mean, there's
gonna be some crazies for like starting Placo week one,
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you're doing it for the veteran players on the team.
But after a couple of weeks, if he kind of
looks like you did last year old and just I
mean like a forty year old over the hill guy,
you know, and they start Dylan Gabriel like week five
or Kenny Pickett and they.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Can't they can't cut that would be carrying five quarterbacks
because they still have Deshaun Watson. Right, They're not going
to how many guys.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
DeShawn is just going to be on I R right,
so he won't take a fifty three man spot. I mean,
I don't think it's inconceivable they take for maybe they
cut Blacko and just start. I don't know, I mean they.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Got they're not cutting Fla.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
Why they Yeah, just white doesn't take two quarterbacks? You know,
this is this is why it's a bleach show and
why you'll never convince me and Jimmy have them that
they knew like, okays are idiots and both Ivy League
guys they didn't want to draft them, but now they
But okay.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
That was It's really like honestly, it's really like Kaepernick
from this perspective, Okay, it's really easy to get him.
It's hard to get rid of them, right, it's just
hard to get rid of him.
Speaker 7 (36:41):
And you would I mean based on that, Like I
mean again, like I'm not anti she, you wouldn't want
to get rid of them. I think she is a
better prospect. Like I'm not a big Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
No, Dylan Gabriel Gimbril is tiny. It doesn't have a
great arm and athlete. Yeah, outside of that, missus Lincoln,
how's the show? Right? Like he's that's who, That's who is?
All right? Well enough talking about the Browns are good?
What about Matt Stafford? What happens there?
Speaker 7 (37:08):
I'd say that's the biggest red flag right now in
the NFL. Given a team that, I would say most
people two months ago was like, oh, yeah, the Rams
can compete to win the Super Bowl. The defense young
and ascending. They had DeVante Adams, who's motivated. They got
the elite coach Stafford, you shaw standos things, you know.
I mean, it's weird because he's older than all these guys,
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but we all agree when he's on they can go
toe to toe with anybody, as they did in that
playoff game. But like, is there a worst injury to have,
especially the older you get than the injury he has.
At least if you rolled your ankle or Jordan Love
like something. The pinky. It's very like, very black and white, like, hey,
you get this, you'll be good to go in a
couple of weeks. You'll be fine. The back thing he
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throws Saturday, and like any older person knows. A couple
of days later, it's like, WHOA, this does not feel right,
and that's pretty scary being Doug. We see we saw
Steve Kurrr basketball coach being pain so Matt Stafford there
is no disputing his toughness. So when McVay says he's
going to go Monday five six days ago, that was
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the plan and clearly he's it's not good. So here's
the thing you can tell me. He makes it back
for week one, but like, what's his body feel like?
I don't even know who they played week one, but
like on Monday after that game, right or he plays
a couple of weeks. It just is it going to
be an on and off thing all year? And I
don't care what McVeigh says about Jimmy Garoppolo calls him
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the best backup in the league. I mean based on
the way he's played recently in the last couple of
years at post injuries too, He's not the same guy
the Rams would be. I don't want to be screwed
because they got the infrastructure there that it's not going
to be a two win team, but you can kiss
the high level competition of compete in the NFC, and
I'd even say the playoffs goodbye.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Did you see the poll of NFL personnel and they
had speaking of the Valley of the Sun, Murray's a
third tier quarterback? Yeah, where are you on Kyler Murray?
Speaker 7 (39:07):
I agree? I mean, I think that that interception he
threw the other day against the Chiefs is him in
a nutshell because, like the Cults is the worst case scenario.
They drafted Anthony Richson. He just like he has had
no clue what's going on. I think Kyler knows what's
going on, he just can't really see right, So he's
(39:27):
got to move. And then as a decision maker because
he's got these like elite attributes and he half the
time makes the play kind of does some stupid stuff.
But like they can have a month stretch where they
their team is pretty talents. If you told me in
like October, you know, at the end of two months
they're like four and four and they just had they
went three and one in October. It's believable. Because he
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can have good stretches. He also, for all the talented
guys can have a stretch where like you watch back
to back games like that one of the worst quarterbacks
in the NFL. You just can't trust them, So I
know they're like a hits her pick. Everyone's like, oh,
the Cardinals gonna make the playoffs? Like do you take
that bet? I will take the other side.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Stet Gottlib show here on Fox Sports Trader. That's the
voice of John Middlcoff, who, of course, you can listen
to on the three Now podcast on the Volume podcast network. Okay,
where are you on? I mean, I know you were
in Chicago, so I'm guessing you got some Caleb Williams opinion.
Where are you and Caleb Williams?
Speaker 7 (40:27):
Well, one thing is being there. It was my first
time kind of hanging out in this I wasn't even
we were in the suburbs. But you realize it's beautiful, big,
I mean, the most important Midwest city in terms of
size and finances. And then that little team up where
you live. I've been beating their butt for thirty plus years,
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and there is there's just a worry there. And then
I'm getting on the plane flying home. You buy the Internet,
I'm like, Okay, you're gonna get a little Caleb vers Tua,
even if it only lasts a couple drives. I'm like,
that would be fine, then I'll pass out. The game
comes on. There he is in the tea shirt. I'm like,
you've got to be kidding. And my theory was, Doug is,
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it's clearly been an up and down training camp. This
was not a preseason game of like seven other preseason
games going on right like Saturday, a bunch of games going.
It was a standalone game. So if you said, hey,
Caleb's in the game, millions of more people might just
tune in for that thirty minutes and if it goes bad,
it's the number one topic in football for the next
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couple days. So I think he punted just knowing again
it could have gone well, but he didn't even want
to risk it in that situation because McDaniel, what the weekend?
Nitpick two? All we want, but it's much more secure
about like two of those out there. It's gonna look
like he'll be fine. They had to be a little nervous,
like what if it doesn't look good? And I'm not
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saying like I believe Ben Johnson's a good coach, but
I do think that he's no dummy to understand the
negativity and the tsunami of the talk that would have came.
So that's because they, well, no one else played. Well, yeah,
I think it's easy to make that decision once you realize, yeah,
it's not even throwing Caleb.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Lots of lots of teams actually did have guys that played.
I'm ironically ironically enough, uh, middle cooff. And the next
time you come to Chicago and you're on the you know,
on the north side, you could drive you know, two
hours and twenty minutes further and we could actually hang
and you could see that franchise that's won thirteen championships.
Speaker 7 (42:25):
Or I need that next time.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Okay, I'm just there's an invite. I know a guy,
I know lots of guys there anyway, Johnny, great stuff.
But next time you see Cowlhart, let's teach the meut
wear a ball cap. Okaye?
Speaker 7 (42:38):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (42:39):
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that happen? Yeah? Yeah, and did you think the same thing.
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You're like, you've never worn a hat.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
I know his I know his opinion on wearing hat
backwards is like.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
What's amazing? Is Colin? Now He's like going like full
Midwest Like you know these golf courses are amazing. I'm like, yeah,
everybody knows that in Chicago's like I really amazing. It's
like you're playing golfs like, oh yeah, I'm really working
on my game. I'm getting into it. Like, dude, I've
played golf with you. Your add creeps in at like
the tenth hole. You're like, well, like, if you can
make it past whole fourteen. Don't get me wrong, I
get the golf add as well. You're like, oh boy,
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you know my thing is I I don't go to
the range. Well if I do not for long enough,
so it takes me like four holes to get looped
up ready to go. Then you know, you crack your
first beer or whatever, then I'm good. Then I get
to like sixteen seventeen, I'm like, oh man, why did
I do this? This is a long day. My back's
killing me, killing me, killing me,