August 18, 2025 • 46 mins
Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos in for Doug as they discuss the weekend the Browns had as rookie quarterback Dillon Gabriel raised some eyebrows with his "entertainers" comments.
Dan, Monse and Jason Stewart talks about how the Dodgers were able to turn things around in one weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Oh boy, Happy Monday. They're true, They actually do happen.
It's not like, oh, it's Monday. School is starting. I'm
sure there's parents today that have their kids back in
school that are joyous. Oh absolutely that they've been dealing
with this for the past eleven weeks and now they
can finally breathe a sigh of relief and relax. We
hope we can put a smile on your face and
(00:41):
have fun on this Monday. Welcome in. It is the
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Doug's at
Wrigley today.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Oh is he there right now?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Is there right now?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Watching the top two teams in the NL Central battle
it out. Brewers had their fourteen game win streak ended
yesterday by the in Cincinnati, Cub's last hope in trying
to have any chance at winning the division would be
to win a bunch of games against these Brewers in
a five game set.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
But welcome in.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Maybe the only place you'd rather be than with us
on this Monday is at Wrigleyfield.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Probably, I'm not gonna lie. I would think about it.
If somebody offered me to go to Wrigleyfield right now,
I'd be like, you know what, Dan, you can do
the show.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yes, I see you later.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Later.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
We're gonna we're gonna get into that because it's amazing
on how people who love baseball, maybe love basketball, love football,
love golf, love hockey, they don't get an opportunity to
go to some of the most cherished places in sports.
So we're gonna dive into that. But first, if you're
a Cleveland Browns fan, you may want may want to
(01:44):
listen in. If you're one of those people that attacked
what Moncey and I had to say last week about
shad Or Sanders, You're probably gonna want to hide under
a desk. And the reason I say that is because
this is what we were talking about. This is exactly
(02:04):
what we were talking about with the Browns drafting shad
Or Sanders. Manzie and I were in the studio a
week ago over the hype of what happened with Shador
and his efforts with the Panthers and everything that came
with that pregame, postgame, all of it. There are some
people that don't want to deal with the drama. But
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instead of listening and understanding on what we were saying,
people just ran to the race card, said we were
a racist, didn't understand certain things. This is what we
are talking about. And if he can take a second
and just remove yourself from this, Manzi, I think people
would understand what the message about the drafting of shad
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Or Sanders was, or the lack of drafting of shad
Or Sanders. The circus comes to town and it's not
shoud or specific. This happens with a lot of top
players who like to do other things outside of maybe
the NFL, maybe Major League Baseball, maybe basketball. Drama sometimes
follows them. Not every NFL team wants that. And this
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weekend was the perfect example of what we were talking
about and why should fell to the fifth round because
there are just certain teams that don't want to deal
with this. And last week, Manzi was easy for people
to point fingers and say, you don't want to deal
with the guy who throws two touchdowns without any practice time.
That's not what it was about.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
That's not what it was about.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Not even close this weekend is what it was about.
We should do or not even taking a single snap
and still having controversy with the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
You know, I feel like in sports, I am very
you know, emotional, not logical. But this whole thing that
we talked about was a logical explanation as to why
should Door Sanders fill in the draft. We weren't saying
anything wrong. We were just saying, all of this attention
and all of these antics are some things that people
don't want to deal with. And I also mentioned I
was like, this may be the new norm, like this
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may be starting to be a thing that we see
more often, and that doesn't matter. There are people who
don't want to deal with it, and I just I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
We didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
We guys were mad for us being logical as to
why should do or fell in the draft? Sure, what
other answer did you want? That's the answer.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
In the messages, whether it be on Facebook, whether it
be on Instagram, TikTok, you know, to have America spelled
differently than the way that it's normally spelled to prove points.
It's just ridiculous. And this is what we are talking about.
Senor Sanders again didn't take a snap against the Philadelphia
Eagles over the weekend. In this game on Saturday, didn't
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take a snap. Dylan Gabriel did. Dylan Gabriel ended up
throwing a pick six. Dylan Gabriel also did an interview
during the game during the Browns preseason television broadcast. This
is what Dylan Gabriel said.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
You know, there's entertainers in the competitors, and I totally
understand that, and my job is to compete, and that's
what I'm focused on doing. Of course we're doing this
and it game, but you know, it's something that I'll
get used to and just want to be the best
team that I can and create an environment where we
can all go do our best work.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
That's all we want to do.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And when I say it's not always about you, the
entertainers that he was talking about are people like you
and me.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
People don't talk about him.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I don't believe that.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
You don't believe that. I don't believe you think he
was talking about Shakira.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I think he was. I think he was just talking
about what he sees around him. And I don't think
it was a dyss. But I do think it's just
is proving the point that he sees the attention and
the antics and the cameras and all of this stuff
and entertainers came out because it's fresh on his mind.
I just don't think he meant to be talking smack
in any way. It's just what we're saying. This is
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what we're talking about, and they can't even avoid it,
they can't ignore it. It's there, and so I think
it was just like something fresh on his mind and
he said it that way.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
You think he was talking about shador, I.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Do think he was talking.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I don't know, because it's a thing. I don't think
it matters in our relation to what is what is
going at least to last week. And we can dive
into that in a little bit, because then the next
step was Dylan Gabriel had to clarify his comments. Right,
this is what Dylan Gabriel had to say all about
our team, You know what I.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Mean, in each other.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
I would never make that and I've said it before.
That's why it's interesting. But for me, it's I've explained
that entertainers are you all competitor That's what I am
and all my teammates, and we both have jobs to do,
so that's it.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I don't think he was talking about us. I don't
think I competitors and entertainers. I mean, but we're not
competing the media, I say, we you know, journalists, whatever
he's talking about, we're not competing with you. We're not
competing with this quarterback room. That That's what the question
was about. How is this quarterback competition? How are you
dealing with the outside noise? How does the media have
to do with that? Like yeah, like that, we're the
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media is creating drama. Obviously that's part of that's part
of it now. But I do think it kind of
just came out and he was talking about Shador and
I don't think it's a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I don't think we'll ever truly know unless there's more
comments that are made that maybe he doesn't clarify or
comes right out and says it. I actually do think
that he was being genuine, But I also believe that
it's one hundred percent on Dylan Gabriel. There was zero
on Shood or Sanders for blame in this scenario. For
what Dylan Gabriel said on camera to a reporter. It's
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one hundred percent as words. So whether he meant it
or didn't mean it, he said it, and that is
now a topic of conversation within the Cleveland Browns in
the quarterback room. And Shador could believe Dylan Gabriel or
he may not believe Dylan Gabriel. But you know what,
the quarterback room right now is not as strong as
it was on Friday as it is today, Like there
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is more of a fracture. So now you have four
quarterbacks in that room, which Joe Flacco the clear number one.
Because there really wasn't any competition throughout training camp with
Kenny Pickett being hurt and now Shador is hurt and
Dylan Gabriel was hurt, no one really had an opportunity
to challenge Joe Flacco who was probably number one.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
That news happened today.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
The team also signed Isaiah Bond, a wide receiver from
Texas that went undrafted because he was facing sexual assault
allegations during the draft process last April. We're not talking
about any of that. The shows today are leading with
what Dylan Gabriel said or didn't say, or what he
meant or didn't mean about shad Or Sanders, and that's
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what we were talking about. There is just there's there's
unnecessary stuff that comes with players who want to bring
the circus into town. And Shador's done that. It's it's true,
this is what happens. It doesn't mean that he's the
one that's at fault for the Dylan Gabriel stuff. It's
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this the circus is now here the big top. The
show shows everything that you say is now put under
a magnifying glass. There are thirty one other teams that
aren't dealing with this right probably about half of them.
Monci are thinking they're lucky stars. They're not dealing with this.
But the Cleveland Browns are right now. They're dealing with
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a comment made by their third string quarterback about their
fourth string quarterback or vice versa, on how you see
the quarterback race going. And that's what's leading national sports
talk shows. First take Dan Patrick, other shows of what
is going on, Colin Cowherd. Everybody is talking about what
Dylan Gabriel did or didn't say, and that leads back
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to the point that we made last week of this
is what happens, this is why should or fell because
teams just don't want to deal with intended consequences or
even something like this, because I think it's unintentional. You
think it is. This is what teams don't want to
deal with. This is it in a nutshell?
Speaker 7 (09:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
So I don't even know if the word is intentional.
I think it just slipped out because you can't avoid
the distractions and the extra attention, like it's there, and
I think it just kind of slipped out. But I
do think it was referring to Shador and everything that
comes with it, and I really don't think it was
necessarily a bad thing. It's just in front of you,
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it's everywhere. It's like you just said, everyone's talking about it.
You can't avoid it. So I just think, you know
what I mean, it was like fresh in his head.
He maybe read that somewhere, maybe someone common to that,
and that's where I think it came from. But it's
extra sad when you look at it because I feel
like the Browns have a good team, Like, aside from
the quarterback situation, they have a good team. That could
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make a can surprise us, and instead what we're not
talking about that. Yeah, we're not talking about their defense.
We're not talking about how that's going. We're talking we're
not talking about Jerry Judy and what he can do.
We're so's we're talking about this, which was is a
big nothing burger, poor Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
We're not talking about again I mentioned Isaiah Bond. We're
not talking about Quinshawn Judkins, who is the second round
pick that was cleared of his domestic assault allegations and
so his scenario. We had Zach Jackson on last Friday
and it was almost MANSI honestly was kind of a
not a throwaway question, but it was before we let
you go, Zach, what's going to be the status of
(11:22):
Quinshawn Junkins, the second round pick? And then there's reports
today saying that the Brons want to let the NFL's
investigation kind of play out before they do anything contract wise,
because he's the only draft pick that is yet to
sign a contract, and we're not talking about that at all. Again,
it's completely overshadowed by what the third string quarterback said
about the fourth string quarterback in a preseason game on
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Saturday afternoon. That's what we were talking about. It had
nothing to do with race, It had nothing to do
with Schaedeure and his playing ability. It's everything that comes
with the Shadoor Sanders brand, the Sanders name, and everything
that comes with it. And I think people will look
at that as a negative thing. It's just extra. It's
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a lot, it's a lot to deal with, and it
reminds me, reminds me of a buddy of mine, Okay,
and he dated a girl and really liked her. Okay,
really liked her a lot, and there are things that
he really really liked about her. Sam would say, maybe
(12:30):
you know during times of intimacy, you know that would
that be your favorite word? Yes, you know, great Manzi
bat bleep crazy? Okay, that's that's That's That's who the
girl was.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
So is it worth it? So? Is it worth it?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
In the end he decided it was not. It was not.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Okay, has a different scenario now with someone who isn't
bat bleep crazy. I don't know what the levels of
that are, but I'm just saying it wasn't worth it.
So while there were positives and everything, the whole the
whole drama wasn't worth it at the time, and would
(13:15):
rather just have the life without the ups and downs
and the roller coasters and this and that, even though
the highs were high but.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
The lows were low.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Just wanted to keep it level. And that's what NFL
teams want, and that's the point that we were giving because.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
You want to be focused at all times. This is
not an easy thing to do, play football, play professional sports,
so of course you want to keep things leveled and
you want to keep the focus. And it seems as
though the focus is not there. The distractions are there,
and they're still there and Week one is tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Can think about this a third and four string quarterback
verbal and it's not even a back and forth. That's
one thing about another. Yeah, how absurd is that? That
would be like Jameis Winston saying something about Tommy DeVito,
right like, that's that's what that's what we are where
we are at right now in where the Cleveland Browns.
(14:10):
And that's exactly the point we were trying to.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Make, which puts into perspective that example of if Jameis
Winston said something about that, we would not be talking.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Nobody cares I now want to hear the exact wording
of the reporter, and I don't like that's Jason? Do
we I do we have that? Do we have the
exact wording from the reporter? I just saw you? What's that? Okay? Sorry, No,
that's okay. I thought he was about to say something
with it. He's going to try to track it down.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Are you talking about the question?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yes, exactly, the exactly the exactly it.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Was exact the quarterback competition and how to not be distracted.
But yeah, we can find it exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. It doesn't
it doesn't necessarily matter.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
But with that, when the video started trending and going
around social media, the question was not included in the
video because it was on purpose, Yes, because people wanted
this to be so juicy and dramatic, and it's like,
y'all like, it's really not that big of a deal.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I don't think that it is either either it's become
a big deal.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
It's become a big deal, and you and I see
it differently, and I still don't think it's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Because I don't think that's the point, right, Yes, they
don't like that, like.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
No, this is a big deal. Talk about it.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Whether he meant it or didn't. If he meant it,
then see other players are resenting it. And if he
didn't mean it, this is now becoming non story because
of what is in place and what Shudor is brought
to Cleveland Brown's camp. That's the point of it. So
it doesn't it doesn't even matter in regards to if
you're right or I'm right. I would gladly be wrong
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and your position be correct because it proves the same
exact say it does.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
It does prove the same thing, even though we're looking
at it differently.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
All right, Jason says, we do have the question, so
maybe this will settle that and then we can.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Move on making Will you share that with everybody at Hart?
Speaker 7 (16:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (16:03):
I think it's just part of it.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Can you play that again?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Can you?
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (16:10):
I do?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Will you share that with everybody at Hart?
Speaker 7 (16:14):
Yeah? I think.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
I couldn't. I couldn't quite hear what she said. But right, well,
let's let's go off to Jason Stewart. Jason, that's your Monday.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Radio radio this.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Jason the mondays for Jason Stewart.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
This, even after his Dodgers swept the Padres something we'll
get into a little bit later. Isaac Lowercrond is here,
as is Iowa Sam hit Manzy up at Manzy Blanos.
Speaker 8 (16:39):
This is the best of the Done dot Leaf Show
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
And so what Trina was trying to do on Saturday.
It's Doug Gotlim Show, Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Buyer,
She's Monzy Bolanos. Something that uh, Iowa Sam loved his
train ridal half of it, at least on What a
great weekend it was. It was a great weekend for
Dodger fans. Jason Stewart is here Aasa went cron at
the news desk, and my, what a difference of seventy
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two hours?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Do you remember?
Speaker 6 (17:12):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I don't know if I'm feeling different. I don't know
if I'm feeling different.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I'll tell you what on Friday, if you missed it,
Moncey and I were in for a good four hours
here on Fox Sports Radio. We're in for Doug. We
also were in later for Cavino and Rich. We were
talking baseball, and this was in advance of the series.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Jason sag Padre's Dodgers on Saturday night. But we kind
of had a conversation amongst US three about where the
Dodgers were currently as a team, because on Friday they
weren't in first place. They were a game back of
the Padres. Here's our exchange. If you need a refresher, Montoh,
this you need a refresher. This is what it sounded
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like on Friday when Moncey and Jason were in panic
mode on the Dodgers, and I basically just told them
to chill.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
No, no, no, you should have been just turning it
on this whole time, or at least trying to. But
I'm on, Jason, where's the urgency again? Where is the
want to win?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
You know, you guys are it's really rich to hear
this like it truly is. I mean, it's it's August fifteenth.
If you sweep the series tonight, you leave the weekend
with a two game lead over the Padres, and you
beat your current, maybe not forever rival, but a current rival,
and this weekend can change everything. Oh wow, isaacra can
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we get an updated look at the NLS standings right now?
Speaker 9 (18:40):
Well, first of all, it is just being reported by
multiple sources close to Fox Sports Radio that Dave Roberts
actually played that SoundBite in the clubhouse out there the
game for his team first place, the Los Angeles Dodgers
by a whopping enormous two game margin over the San
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Diego Padres. But after those words by Dan, it might
as well be twenty jeez.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I mean, seriously, season is turned around now one three
in a row on series with the Rocket.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
Here's another tweet. Dodger players vote Dan Buyer a preemptive
World Series share.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Oh y, congratulations to you.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yes, and then you can get one for the Brewers,
and then all of a sudden, you got a full share.
I know you're trying to call me out here, but
the reality is, like, I don't feel.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I am not trying to call you out if you're
just telling you I'm a ridiculous you guys.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Is it bad that I want my team to freaking
be excellent? Is it bad that I want them to
strive for perfection? I know you can't actually be perfect.
You know how hard it is to repeat as a champion.
And if you're not focused, how can I trust you.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
To be focused? You can't be focused for one hundred
and sixty two games.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
But this game, this team is not like last year's team.
The dominance that that last year's team was is not
this team. The offense is not the same as last
year's offense. So I understand that you cannot focus for
one hundred and sixty two games. But if you take
your foot off the gas against a team like the Angels,
they haven't beat the Brewers this year. They haven't beat
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teams that are good and been consistently beating them. Thank goodness,
they beat the Padres and swept them. Yes, but is
that more because the Padres don't know how to play
against the Dodgers in the pressure? I don't know. I
am still don't take your foot off the.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Gas now, Jason, do you feel like Monci does? I mean?
Is that your takeaway from this weekend?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
I was encouraged. I was encouraged by the weekend. And
here's why. So on our nation's birthday, was it July fourth?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (20:43):
That was this year July fourth, they were nine games
up on the division. I think they went on to
lose like twenty two of twenty eight something crazy. So
I don't think that our skepticism on Friday was unwarned.
But I will say this, everything that went wrong in
those six weeks or five weeks, they seemingly fixed in
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one weekend. And we're talking about when Kershaw left with
a one one run lead on Friday night. I sent
a text to Matsie and I think Bursch and Benson.
I said, Okay, we all know what happens next. They're
gonna give up the They're going to go up the
lead and the Potteries will win. Nope, they didn't. Saturday.
They got off to a big lead and they held it.
When was the last time we did that? Sat Sunday?
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Another thing was fixed Mookie Betts. Mookie Bets and the clutch.
Where's that guy been so seemingly dan in a matter
of three games against our biggest nemesis. I'm not going
to use the word rival nemesis. We seemingly fixed everything
that had been ail ailing us for six weeks. Is
what's his we and us business? By the way, I
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was there, Zach Broff.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I think Zach and Jason Bateman.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Whether it be in the National Football League, whether it
be in any other league. The key to repeating is
not being that super team throughout. It's trying to play
your best baseball or football when it starts to matter,
and there may be something that wakes you up. Listen,
the Brewers right now are in a spot where they're
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about to try to add to their three to nothing
lead against the Cubs. So it would be fifteen wins
in sixteen games if they get this done. It's August eighteenth,
and for as great of a season as it has been,
there's no doubt Milwaukee is not going to be playing
the same baseball now that come October. Now it may
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be a slight decrease. It's just tough to be at
your absolute best. So now it's just about peaking, Manzi.
So here we are midway through August, and I felt
the reason why I said what I said because it
wasn't to prove out that you were wrong. I was
just proving out that you and Jason are so negative,
and it's not that I predicted it. My point was
saying like, yeah, if you guys sweep, you'll be two
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games up, and you've just gone through an awful month
and a half in your two games up in the
NL West.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
That's my point.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
So now the season kind of starts from here, and
you've got a new like a new reset point for
the rest of the season. And that's why I don't
know if the Dodgers will win the World Series. I
don't know if they'll repeat, but it's just a lot
to ask to do it throughout the season. So this
provided a great reset point for the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
If I choose to not be logical with how I
cheer for my teams, that is on me. Because yes,
everything you said is correct. Yes, I hear you. It
doesn't matter how the Dodgers made me have made me
feel this year.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
You hear me, but you're not listening, correct, right, That's right,
that's it. Yes, called a son, Yes, my son.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
I think that's what that SoundBite was. Between the Harps
is what I told Sam. It's an old industry term.
Between the Harps. That was that was a very measured
Dan Byer, who has zero emotional connection to a team,
predicting the three game sweep, which was pretty amazing. I'm
not going to and not give you credit for that, true,
but it was also two people that I think were
(24:03):
very warranted and their concerns about a team going into
mid August against in the biggest series of the season.
So I'm going to defend our emotion. Yeah, and I'm
gonna give Dan props for his uh for meso.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Logical Yeah, and you're right, and you are right. I
wish I was like, who cares?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's seeing the forest through the trees, Like I have
a different perspective than you guys, right on what the
what the Dodgers are right now? Boat Sweets and Dodgers
are zero to fourteen against the Angels, Brewers, and Astros
this year, thanks about sixty eight and thirty eight, you see,
against everyone else.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
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Speaker 2 (24:47):
Well, happy Monday, say goodbye to the weekend. I'm pretty
soon you're gonna be saying goodbye to summer. Officially not
until later in September, but Labor Day, two weeks from today.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
You know, summer here in LA has changed. Summer now
goes into October. It starts so late. I feel like
all the seasons have like shifted a little bit, and
now summer starts later. It hasn't even been that hot,
and it's gonna get hotter. And I think it's gonna
be Halloween and all those skimpy costumes. One that I
may wear. It'll be perfect because it's gonna be hot.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
So it was.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
It was a thanks Day after Thanksgiving, a black Friday
that I once put Christmas lights up and it was
ninety degrees and it was windy as bleep, but it
was warm.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yes, it was super one.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
No, I'm gonna tan in November.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
We're becoming Australia here in southern California. Welcome, good day, mates,
It's the Don Gottleam Show. He's about as firewarers. We're
gonna go Doug's at Wrigley Field today taking in Cubs brewers.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
How about that? What a way to spend them Monday.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, good for you, Doug. We'll take over for you.
Don't worry.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I know if Doug was here for the segment we're
about to do, he would say that he loves going
to Wrigley Field checking out some day baseball. We're gonna
do something else. It's gonna have some love. It's also
gonna have some hate.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
What did you love?
Speaker 7 (26:13):
God?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I love you? And what did you hate?
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Meet these player haters.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
It's a Monday staple here on the Doug Gottlieb Show,
Jason Stewart, Isaac Lohancron, Iowa Sam hanging out with Monty
and myself. What'd you love about this weekend? What'd you
hate about this weekend? Moncey. I'm not gonna start with you.
I'm giving you the entire steering wheel. You get to
pick who goes where.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Oh yes, who starts us out.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
We're gonna We're gonna go to Isaac Lohenkron to start
us off.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
All right with some love from the weekend.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
All right, we will take you to.
Speaker 9 (26:54):
Saturday evening Sofi Stadium in Inglewood in Los Angeles, chart
in Los Angeles Rams in an otherwise unimportant and uninteresting
preseason game, but a thrilling moment in the fourth quarter
with six forty five remaining, as Rams quarterback Stetson Bennett
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had his pass intercepted by a previously well widely unknown
Los Angeles Chargers defensive lineman named t Ra Edwards. T
Ri Edwards, who weighs in at three hundred and five pounds,
an undrafted rookie out of Illinois, and he joyously rumbled
for a twenty seven yard return. And not to get
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too emotional or weepy or smoopy, as my wife called
it about this, but that's actually one of the cool
things about preseason football to see an undrafted person that
is completely out of the radar just make a really
great play, stand out play.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
And have a moment in the sun.
Speaker 9 (27:56):
There was another undrafted player named Luke Grimm in that
game who returned to punt sixty six yards for a touchdown.
Some guys who may never make it in the NFL
that that literally might be their one moment that they'll
remember and their loved ones will remember for the rest.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
Of their lives.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I'd love that. Can I love that?
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah? You can.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
If the Chargers were in hard knocks, that would be
twenty eight minutes of this week's episode would be just on.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
That play, right right after Justin Herbert has a smoothie.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yes, yes, I love it because there's nothing, nothing at
all investigative or diving deep. They love the cherry on
top stories, and that was one of them from Saturday.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
It's a good pick.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Isa Isaac had pre and postgame duties for a Chargers
football so I knew it wasn't going to be a RAM.
I knew it wasn't going to be Stetson Bennett. I
knew that was not going to be the case.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
All right, why don't we go to our producer, Jason. Jason,
what did you love about the Rieckie Montie.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
I'll take it from here. I went to the game
Saturday night, Saturday Night, Dodgers padres, second of three wins.
Speaker 8 (29:02):
I'll take it fromhere.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
We'll get to we'll get to the sweetwater on. But
I want to just talk about my experience because it's
all about me. Every once in a while, you have
important people get you tickets to games. It was my
super hot girl friend Christina's birthday, so we uh, we
got first class treatment, so our seats were kind of
behind home plate. Saw that first first or second real nice.
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And then we got access to the dugout club. This
is how the other people live. Monzy knows all about this,
but poor people that work in radio like us don't
really get this. You go down to the dugout club
and you're eating on the Dodgers dime anything you want
to eat, hot dogs down to chicken that's very well made.
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I can't whoever the word is. And then you know
you're you're you're buying your beer but like it's just
the way people on the other side live you're talking about.
We saw I saw Jason Bateman walk down there.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Nice.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Another star that I saw that a Gray's past what's
his name? What's his name from? Uh? Scrubs?
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Yes, nice. Anyways, that's my weekend. I loved it. Love
my Dodgers experience.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Congratulations, that is a nice experience in the Doug club.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Like Zach Braff is on the top of my list
of celebrities that annoy me.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
That's what I told him.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I said that to him because his Punked episode, he
came off like a total jerk.
Speaker 8 (30:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I didn't love Punked, so I didn't watch it a lot.
Like I watched it, and I told.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
On some people it did.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, because some people don't handle it.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah, correct, And I felt like he was one of them.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
You know, I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised he gives
that vibe off. And I didn't watch a lot of
Scrubs either, but he gives up a.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Very braffy so it just comes off very braffy.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Damn, why don't you continue with Gray and what you
loved about the weekend?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
So I took my son to the driving range on Saturday,
and he's learning golf. He's four years old. But we
were at the far end of the range and someone
came right next to us, and I told the guy, said, listen,
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he is just learning. He holds the golf club like
it's a hockey stick, like this is how he's swinging.
The clubs are probably too big for him. You may
be in you may be in harm's way. He goes,
don't worry about it. I'm just going to hit a couple.
I said, all right, Because I was at the hitting
Babe Brodie and I were alternating. Brody's sitting in the
chair behind me. I hear, watch the guy hit a
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shot there it is my son yells bad shot. And
I was mortified, yet I could not. I had to
scold him to say, like, you can't yell bad shot
at someone else's shot. But I felt so bad, yet
I was trying.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Not to laugh because it was so funny.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I did say, you cannot say that on the golf course,
like imagine, like even like if buddies would do it
to me, you'd totally get under my skin, let alone
a perfect stranger who just showed up. The guy nice
enough to admit. A couple of minutes later, he goes,
by the way, it was a bad shot, like so,
like so, Brody's got an eye on what is a
good shot and a bad shot. But I took him
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to the course a couple of times this weekend and
that was Yeah, that was Saturday night when he told
the guy next to me that he just hit an
awful seven.
Speaker 9 (32:36):
H Toddie Bayer, the David Ferritelli Olds Bar.
Speaker 10 (32:40):
He did say that darned yeah right, yeah, they got
no filter, you have it. Here's the other part that
I love.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Every time that I would swing, he would yell, that's
what I'm talking about. And and some of mine were fat.
They were blocks to the right, they were duck hooks.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
You know. It was. He was my biggest cheerleader, which.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I love that. What is it when you say it
was fat?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
So I give you you'll hit the ground before you first, Yeah, yes,
you'll hit the ground before you hit the ball. So
you go okay with the ball. If you were to
just say, hit just on the bottom of the club
and just hit the ball and it's a low line drive,
hit it thin.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
That sort of deal.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Me, got it, got it? That's amazing. So we were.
We were proud and embarrassed all at the same time. Yes,
good times. I always yam what did you love about
the weekend?
Speaker 10 (33:28):
So my love and hate come from the same day.
I'll start with my day starts with the love and
it ends with the hate. This was Saturday, so it
was our editor Ryan Bershinger. It was his birthday earlier
this week, and he invited us some people to take
the train from Seami Valley up to Santa Barbara and
kind of go around.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
You know, uh, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
Did you get this invitation?
Speaker 10 (33:51):
She was the first one I guaranteed had she had
other other things she had It was your working also.
Oh yes, okay, Manzi very much in demand. But we
can Monza cannot join us. So we made our way
up to Santa Barbara. Wonderful train ride or you know,
it's not a booze cruise, so it's I don't know,
it's a train rhyme.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
I don't know. We can come on, Dan, you're the
pun guy. Here is a train. I just can't believe
I wasn't invited. That's I'm sorry, stuck on. Sorry, Yes,
I'm sure you would have let's just.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Ask him for a front. Could you go back into
their wedding invite and take away the gifts you gave them?
Are you on Dan's behalf?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
You're not invited as well?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Just have we started honest invited?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
I'm sure Dan you would have.
Speaker 10 (34:36):
You would have joined us at ten o'clock in the
morning for a red Bull in vodka get things started.
We could have waltzed and then we waltzed over the
train anyway, So we go down to Santa Barbara. Love
of the sun eventually came out in the afternoon. We
were sipping wine and beers, eating, drinking and uh, it
was just a lovely day. It was a lovely day
till we got back on the train. And I will
save I will say that they hate.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
I do love.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Sam could have just said I don't have to Santa
Barbara with friends this weekend, but he wants the name
drop for everybody else that will follow in his stead today.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Turn that screw one more knowledge.
Speaker 10 (35:08):
Yes, I had to involve FSR, you know, make it
FSR centric.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yes, I'll wrap it up and I'll keep it short here.
You know, I had a busy Saturday and I had
a long drive and we work in sports and sometimes
you just want to like tune sports out right. You
were kind of like, I don't want to listen to
this game. I don't want to listen to anybody talk
about anything. And I put on a crime Junkie podcast
and for ninety minutes, I forgot that I was in traffic,
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and I just appreciated that. For I did not know
that ninety minutes of seeing in traffic, I was gonna
walk away and be like, damn, that girl's still missing.
I wonder where she's at. I wonder if they're ever
going to find her. Like it, I thank you to
Crime Junkie Podcasts for separating me from traffic and sports
for ninety minutes. That I needed that. And sometimes you
just don't know where to turn to crime.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Jon And she traveled three point two miles in that
ninety minute, so that was even better.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
I could have ran it, I'd say, traffic in this
I thinks I could have.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Ran it faster, could have ran it faster.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
All right, let's get to our hates. Yeah, all right,
all right, you got the steering wheel.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Do you want to kick us off?
Speaker 8 (36:13):
Dan?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
What did you hate about the weekend?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I hate the Big Tens proposal of twenty four to
twenty eight teams for the college Football Playoff. Their heart
was in the right place. I think that they they're
sticking to a model where it would have four automatic
qualifiers with the Big Ten, the SEC, a couple for
the S or the ACC, and the Big twelve, and
then you would have a group of five and three
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automatic qualifiers. The Big Ten has also floated the idea
of instead of having our top two teams play for
a conference championship game, we would have the third best
team play the sixth best team, and the fourth place
team play the fifth place team, and the winner of
those two could be the automatic qualifiers along with the
top two teams in this sixteen team model. Then they
thought to themselves, well, wait, why would our teams have
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to play our teams? Why not just include all all
of our schools and then the SEC can include all
of theirs, and they'll play each other instead, and we
don't have to knock each other out. Why don't we
have a twenty four to twenty eighteen bracket. You can
see the reasoning, but it's gone so far off the tracks.
No one wants this. Nobody would want this. No one
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wants big noon kickoff at Wisconsin at Maryland on a
Saturday for the seventh spot in the Big Ten to
possibly make the playoffs. Nobody wants that their heart may
have been in the right place and their deductive reasoning
of how we could do this and make this work
is fine. There's not a single person around that would
want to see college football go to a twenty eighteen playoff.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Not at all. I hope I speak for everyone.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Sam. Why don't you finish out why you hit it
about the weekend and then just give it? Do you
agree with you?
Speaker 6 (37:48):
Hear you? Dan?
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Yeah? I do?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Okay, Yeah, okay, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Don't like it.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
You don't like it?
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Here?
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
So, picking up a from Anna Barbara train.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Story Weibersinger's birthday.
Speaker 10 (38:00):
You said, used the tournament, something went off, the idea
went off the tracks. Yeah, well, my return trip didn't
go off the tracks literally physically. Would saw it on
the news? Yes, you would have. So we're all getting
into the train. The sun's going down. We're all pretty faded.
It's been a long day of imbibing and waltzing about
Santa Barbara on the lovely day. Anyway, we must have
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stumbled upon the train car that was holding the group
on dot com sixteenth annual Ladies Be Shopping Convention, because
this woman had this one woman named Trina. She started
walking up and down the aisles and all these women
were like cheering and drinking, and then you can drink alcohol.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
They serve alcohol in the train.
Speaker 10 (38:38):
This woman named Trina had a whistle and she kept whistling,
and people had like a boombox, and we were just
like trying to relax, and this this woman was just
like turn it into the party train. And it was
really fun at first, and then you were like, Okay,
we're all exhausted, and this woman is blowing this whistle
in my ear as she's passing by. So it went
from like an hour and a half train ride that
was supposed to be just enjoyable and relaxing, and it
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was just ridiculously annoying. And then we would make stops
and then we'd be at like the Ventura stop for
fifteen minutes and we're supposed to be only there for
like one minute and take off. So by the time
we finally got back, we were all just exhausted and irritable.
And at that point needed another drink to cope with
the ladies, be shopping convention or whatever it was.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
We stumbled upon.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
That sounds like a Fox Sports Sunday two to five party,
singing people's blowing whistles, taking videos the whole day.
Speaker 10 (39:26):
I I, yes, I would consent to that, but I
did not consent to this. This woman was very lively
and she was having a great time. And I just
sat there and grand and barried it because I didn't
want to poop poop on her good time. But it
was quite the return trip back. It was wild, wild.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Poor Trina. She got caught a stray. She's at work
right now. It has no idea. She's just been throwing
under the bus. Not only is she had chopaholic, she's
annoying it and.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
National radio.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (39:55):
Well, I mean, you know by the end of it,
where I was kind of hating on treeing a little bit.
So that's my hate, all right, you know what, she
had good time, So what can you say.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I'm gonna tell you what I hated about the weekend.
I hated the rams attempt to deceive me that Matthew
Stafford is not well. What is he well? Or is
he not because I'm over here having discussions that the
Rams need to move on from Matthew Stafford and that
he's not doing well. He's thirty seven with his back issues,
and they're like, he was supposed to practice Saturday, but
we'll give me We're gonna make an announcement on Monday.
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That sounds really bad. And then you come out today
and you're like, oh, no, he had a good practice
a whole hour. He is fine. Stop deceiving me, Rams,
he is not okay. It feels very remember last year
before the season started how the forty nine ers hand
handled Christian McCaffrey. Oh, I feel like it's not yes, yes,
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And it's obviously even worse with Christian McAffrey because of
the fantasy and people drafting him number one overall and
then he's not. But it's like, stop telling me half
truths when it comes to Matthew Stafford, please, because I'm
over here having arguments with Kerry and then here is oh,
he's fine, Then what am I arguing?
Speaker 2 (41:04):
You're to your point, though, for them to not play
Jimmy Garoppolo at all during the preseason tells us what
we need to know about Matthew.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Stafford exactly exactly, but no, no, he's fine. He had
a whole hour of practice day. Give me a break. Grams, Jase,
what did you hate about the weekend?
Speaker 5 (41:19):
So?
Speaker 6 (41:19):
I do too way too much Twitter. I shouldn't be
on Twitter as much as I am, so uh the
people that want it both ways? Okay? So uh NFL
Twitter this weekend downplayed Caleb Williams nice quarter or nice
drive by saying it's only preseason. These were the same
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group of idiots that overplayed and over analyzed him missing
the net three times in practice? So which one? Which
one is it? You're gonna overplay him missing the net
three times in our practice and then downplay when he
does well in the game. You can't have it both ways.
You just want to be negative, Nancy, no matter what happens.
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And I just don't Joe with that. Dan, I'm an
overly positive guy.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Definitely.
Speaker 9 (42:08):
It's funny how literally all of us laughed, and he.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Said that, yes, people think that Jason's full name is
resident hater Jason Stewart because of how often Doug says
it here.
Speaker 10 (42:18):
Or what was that term that Jim Rome gave me,
benign troll? That's what you are then.
Speaker 6 (42:23):
Cat me a benign troll. Recently, you agree that.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
This weekend I did, like Caleb Williams, this weekend, we're
going to dive into that right a little bit.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
We had moved past it. But that's okay. No, no
we can't. No, that's okay, that's all right. No, we
can absolutely do it.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
No.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
I just but it's exactly what Jason Stuart kind of
was talking about. I was annoyed at the negative reports
of how training camp is going when it's like, yo,
he has a new coach, it's a whole new thing
he's learning and does preseason not matter because you can
tell me it doesn't matter, and then he goes out
and does a good job and it's like nothing. So
I'm rooting for him.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I think that the expectation and are so absurd with him.
And this is the point I made with Mike Harmon yesterday,
is if he's the first overall pick, we can't sit
there and cherry pick even if he was thought to
be the generational talent. So like cam Ward, Caleb Williams
should have the same sort of expectations even if their
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situations aren't different, which means and by saying that is,
Caleb Williams shouldn't be so high, and maybe cam Ward
shouldn't be so low. If you're the first overall pick
of a drafts, there should just be a pocket where
you need to be and of Caleb Williams, and I
used Philip Rivers as an example of if you had
Philip Rivers career, which by the way, would be zero
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Super Bowl appearances and zero Super Bowl wins. I think
for a Bears fan, you would you would run to
the counter, Yes, cash that in. It would be worth
that that pick to draft that sort of guy. But
I think everybody wants him to be Tom Brady, Drew Brees,
Peyton Manning and this generational and I just I think
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that that's what's unfair to him in the expectations and
we view in how we view how good he is.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Absolutely part of the reason I'm rooting for him, and
in reality, I feel like all the pressure in that
division should be going to the Packers anyway. Isaac, Yes,
sizic Low and Crime.
Speaker 9 (44:16):
At first I hated this because I felt bad for
the guy, but now I secretly think it's hilarious, particularly
with how gracious he handled it while Scotti Scheffler was
winning the BMW Championship. A golfer named Ben Griffin yesterday
had a horrible start, six over par over the first
three holes yesterday. The reason why he accidentally overdosed on creatine,
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He'll explain.
Speaker 11 (44:42):
And I had this like basically a snowball of creating.
So I'd been in my bucket for probably like a month,
and I like broke it up and put in my
water bottle whatever, like I'm all good, Like I've taken
creatine on the AF person before, it's fine. But I
started taking it for my second shot and I accidentally
swallowed like one of the one of the big rox
kind of that was in my water bottle. And I've
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never overdosed on creatine before, but I think I did
in the moment because I didn't really drink any water
after that. I basically just enaled like a snowball, and
so I started getting like super shaky, and I've never
felt like this before, and I literally felt like I got trimmers.
Speaker 9 (45:19):
So good on him for just explaining in a good
natured way. And once the overdose was gone, he was
seven under over the last fifteen holes, So that overdosing
on creatine on a golf course.
Speaker 6 (45:34):
That's the first time I heard.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
That he four putted from five feet, which I.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Mean that's four putting, yes, so four attempts. Yes to
get Wow, that's not good.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
You should make the Ryder Cup team. He should. He's
he's not an automatic qualifier. But that decision we'll find
out will be when Keigan Bradley has to make. But
Ben Griffin's been very, very good this year, and he's
good with social media as well, and good and explaining
what happened to him, all.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Right, And that's what we love and hated about the weekend.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
I will say this, I love that Fox change their
on screen graphics. Their score bug is what we use
for the Super Bowl. The KC and the PHI with
Philadelphia and Kansas City were way too big, way too awkward.
Last night in the game between the Bears and Bills,
they just used their logos so much better and so
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much better, and so that I'm hoping when the Buccaneers
wear their throwback uniforms, the creamsicicles and when the Seahawks
were theirs, you.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Want to see that guy the throwback.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yes, I want to see Bucko Bruce. I want to
see the old Seahawk. I don't want to see the
new logo at all. She is Moncey Bellagios. I'm Dan Byer.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Oh boy, Happy Monday. They're true, They actually do happen.
It's not like, oh, it's Monday. School is starting. I'm
sure there's parents today that have their kids back in
school that are joyous. Oh absolutely that they've been dealing
with this for the past eleven weeks and now they
can finally breathe a sigh of relief and relax. We
hope we can put a smile on your face and
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have fun on this Monday. Welcome in. It is the
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Doug's at
Wrigley today.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Oh is he there right now?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Is there right now?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Watching the top two teams in the NL Central battle
it out. Brewers had their fourteen game win streak ended
yesterday by the in Cincinnati, Cub's last hope in trying
to have any chance at winning the division would be
to win a bunch of games against these Brewers in
a five game set.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
But welcome in.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Maybe the only place you'd rather be than with us
on this Monday is at Wrigleyfield.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Probably, I'm not gonna lie. I would think about it.
If somebody offered me to go to Wrigleyfield right now,
I'd be like, you know what, Dan, you can do
the show.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yes, I see you later.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Later.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
We're gonna we're gonna get into that because it's amazing
on how people who love baseball, maybe love basketball, love football,
love golf, love hockey, they don't get an opportunity to
go to some of the most cherished places in sports.
So we're gonna dive into that. But first, if you're
a Cleveland Browns fan, you may want may want to
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listen in. If you're one of those people that attacked
what Moncey and I had to say last week about
shad Or Sanders, You're probably gonna want to hide under
a desk. And the reason I say that is because
this is what we were talking about. This is exactly
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what we were talking about with the Browns drafting shad
Or Sanders. Manzie and I were in the studio a
week ago over the hype of what happened with Shador
and his efforts with the Panthers and everything that came
with that pregame, postgame, all of it. There are some
people that don't want to deal with the drama. But
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instead of listening and understanding on what we were saying,
people just ran to the race card, said we were
a racist, didn't understand certain things. This is what we
are talking about. And if he can take a second
and just remove yourself from this, Manzi, I think people
would understand what the message about the drafting of shad
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Or Sanders was, or the lack of drafting of shad
Or Sanders. The circus comes to town and it's not
shoud or specific. This happens with a lot of top
players who like to do other things outside of maybe
the NFL, maybe Major League Baseball, maybe basketball. Drama sometimes
follows them. Not every NFL team wants that. And this
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weekend was the perfect example of what we were talking
about and why should fell to the fifth round because
there are just certain teams that don't want to deal
with this. And last week, Manzi was easy for people
to point fingers and say, you don't want to deal
with the guy who throws two touchdowns without any practice time.
That's not what it was about.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
That's not what it was about.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Not even close this weekend is what it was about.
We should do or not even taking a single snap
and still having controversy with the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
You know, I feel like in sports, I am very
you know, emotional, not logical. But this whole thing that
we talked about was a logical explanation as to why
should Door Sanders fill in the draft. We weren't saying
anything wrong. We were just saying, all of this attention
and all of these antics are some things that people
don't want to deal with. And I also mentioned I
was like, this may be the new norm, like this
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may be starting to be a thing that we see
more often, and that doesn't matter. There are people who
don't want to deal with it, and I just I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
We didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
We guys were mad for us being logical as to
why should do or fell in the draft? Sure, what
other answer did you want? That's the answer.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
In the messages, whether it be on Facebook, whether it
be on Instagram, TikTok, you know, to have America spelled
differently than the way that it's normally spelled to prove points.
It's just ridiculous. And this is what we are talking about.
Senor Sanders again didn't take a snap against the Philadelphia
Eagles over the weekend. In this game on Saturday, didn't
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take a snap. Dylan Gabriel did. Dylan Gabriel ended up
throwing a pick six. Dylan Gabriel also did an interview
during the game during the Browns preseason television broadcast. This
is what Dylan Gabriel said.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
You know, there's entertainers in the competitors, and I totally
understand that, and my job is to compete, and that's
what I'm focused on doing. Of course we're doing this
and it game, but you know, it's something that I'll
get used to and just want to be the best
team that I can and create an environment where we
can all go do our best work.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
That's all we want to do.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And when I say it's not always about you, the
entertainers that he was talking about are people like you
and me.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
People don't talk about him.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I don't believe that.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
You don't believe that. I don't believe you think he
was talking about Shakira.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I think he was. I think he was just talking
about what he sees around him. And I don't think
it was a dyss. But I do think it's just
is proving the point that he sees the attention and
the antics and the cameras and all of this stuff
and entertainers came out because it's fresh on his mind.
I just don't think he meant to be talking smack
in any way. It's just what we're saying. This is
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what we're talking about, and they can't even avoid it,
they can't ignore it. It's there, and so I think
it was just like something fresh on his mind and
he said it that way.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
You think he was talking about shador, I.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Do think he was talking.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I don't know, because it's a thing. I don't think
it matters in our relation to what is what is
going at least to last week. And we can dive
into that in a little bit, because then the next
step was Dylan Gabriel had to clarify his comments. Right,
this is what Dylan Gabriel had to say all about
our team, You know what I.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Mean, in each other.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
I would never make that and I've said it before.
That's why it's interesting. But for me, it's I've explained
that entertainers are you all competitor That's what I am
and all my teammates, and we both have jobs to do,
so that's it.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
I don't think he was talking about us. I don't
think I competitors and entertainers. I mean, but we're not
competing the media, I say, we you know, journalists, whatever
he's talking about, we're not competing with you. We're not
competing with this quarterback room. That That's what the question
was about. How is this quarterback competition? How are you
dealing with the outside noise? How does the media have
to do with that? Like yeah, like that, we're the
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media is creating drama. Obviously that's part of that's part
of it now. But I do think it kind of
just came out and he was talking about Shador and
I don't think it's a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
I don't think we'll ever truly know unless there's more
comments that are made that maybe he doesn't clarify or
comes right out and says it. I actually do think
that he was being genuine, But I also believe that
it's one hundred percent on Dylan Gabriel. There was zero
on Shood or Sanders for blame in this scenario. For
what Dylan Gabriel said on camera to a reporter. It's
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one hundred percent as words. So whether he meant it
or didn't mean it, he said it, and that is
now a topic of conversation within the Cleveland Browns in
the quarterback room. And Shador could believe Dylan Gabriel or
he may not believe Dylan Gabriel. But you know what,
the quarterback room right now is not as strong as
it was on Friday as it is today, Like there
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is more of a fracture. So now you have four
quarterbacks in that room, which Joe Flacco the clear number one.
Because there really wasn't any competition throughout training camp with
Kenny Pickett being hurt and now Shador is hurt and
Dylan Gabriel was hurt, no one really had an opportunity
to challenge Joe Flacco who was probably number one.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
That news happened today.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
The team also signed Isaiah Bond, a wide receiver from
Texas that went undrafted because he was facing sexual assault
allegations during the draft process last April. We're not talking
about any of that. The shows today are leading with
what Dylan Gabriel said or didn't say, or what he
meant or didn't mean about shad Or Sanders, and that's
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what we were talking about. There is just there's there's
unnecessary stuff that comes with players who want to bring
the circus into town. And Shador's done that. It's it's true,
this is what happens. It doesn't mean that he's the
one that's at fault for the Dylan Gabriel stuff. It's
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this the circus is now here the big top. The
show shows everything that you say is now put under
a magnifying glass. There are thirty one other teams that
aren't dealing with this right probably about half of them.
Monci are thinking they're lucky stars. They're not dealing with this.
But the Cleveland Browns are right now. They're dealing with
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a comment made by their third string quarterback about their
fourth string quarterback or vice versa, on how you see
the quarterback race going. And that's what's leading national sports
talk shows. First take Dan Patrick, other shows of what
is going on, Colin Cowherd. Everybody is talking about what
Dylan Gabriel did or didn't say, and that leads back
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to the point that we made last week of this
is what happens, this is why should or fell because
teams just don't want to deal with intended consequences or
even something like this, because I think it's unintentional. You
think it is. This is what teams don't want to
deal with. This is it in a nutshell?
Speaker 7 (09:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
So I don't even know if the word is intentional.
I think it just slipped out because you can't avoid
the distractions and the extra attention, like it's there, and
I think it just kind of slipped out. But I
do think it was referring to Shador and everything that
comes with it, and I really don't think it was
necessarily a bad thing. It's just in front of you,
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it's everywhere. It's like you just said, everyone's talking about it.
You can't avoid it. So I just think, you know
what I mean, it was like fresh in his head.
He maybe read that somewhere, maybe someone common to that,
and that's where I think it came from. But it's
extra sad when you look at it because I feel
like the Browns have a good team, Like, aside from
the quarterback situation, they have a good team. That could
(10:41):
make a can surprise us, and instead what we're not
talking about that. Yeah, we're not talking about their defense.
We're not talking about how that's going. We're talking we're
not talking about Jerry Judy and what he can do.
We're so's we're talking about this, which was is a
big nothing burger, poor Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
We're not talking about again I mentioned Isaiah Bond. We're
not talking about Quinshawn Judkins, who is the second round
pick that was cleared of his domestic assault allegations and
so his scenario. We had Zach Jackson on last Friday
and it was almost MANSI honestly was kind of a
not a throwaway question, but it was before we let
you go, Zach, what's going to be the status of
(11:22):
Quinshawn Junkins, the second round pick? And then there's reports
today saying that the Brons want to let the NFL's
investigation kind of play out before they do anything contract wise,
because he's the only draft pick that is yet to
sign a contract, and we're not talking about that at all. Again,
it's completely overshadowed by what the third string quarterback said
about the fourth string quarterback in a preseason game on
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Saturday afternoon. That's what we were talking about. It had
nothing to do with race, It had nothing to do
with Schaedeure and his playing ability. It's everything that comes
with the Shadoor Sanders brand, the Sanders name, and everything
that comes with it. And I think people will look
at that as a negative thing. It's just extra. It's
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a lot, it's a lot to deal with, and it
reminds me, reminds me of a buddy of mine, Okay,
and he dated a girl and really liked her. Okay,
really liked her a lot, and there are things that
he really really liked about her. Sam would say, maybe
(12:30):
you know during times of intimacy, you know that would
that be your favorite word? Yes, you know, great Manzi
bat bleep crazy? Okay, that's that's That's That's who the
girl was.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
So is it worth it? So? Is it worth it?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
In the end he decided it was not. It was not.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Okay, has a different scenario now with someone who isn't
bat bleep crazy. I don't know what the levels of
that are, but I'm just saying it wasn't worth it.
So while there were positives and everything, the whole the
whole drama wasn't worth it at the time, and would
(13:15):
rather just have the life without the ups and downs
and the roller coasters and this and that, even though
the highs were high but.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
The lows were low.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Just wanted to keep it level. And that's what NFL
teams want, and that's the point that we were giving because.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
You want to be focused at all times. This is
not an easy thing to do, play football, play professional sports,
so of course you want to keep things leveled and
you want to keep the focus. And it seems as
though the focus is not there. The distractions are there,
and they're still there and Week one is tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Can think about this a third and four string quarterback
verbal and it's not even a back and forth. That's
one thing about another. Yeah, how absurd is that? That
would be like Jameis Winston saying something about Tommy DeVito,
right like, that's that's what that's what we are where
we are at right now in where the Cleveland Browns.
(14:10):
And that's exactly the point we were trying to.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Make, which puts into perspective that example of if Jameis
Winston said something about that, we would not be talking.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Nobody cares I now want to hear the exact wording
of the reporter, and I don't like that's Jason? Do
we I do we have that? Do we have the
exact wording from the reporter? I just saw you? What's that? Okay? Sorry, No,
that's okay. I thought he was about to say something
with it. He's going to try to track it down.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Are you talking about the question?
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yes, exactly, the exactly the exactly it.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Was exact the quarterback competition and how to not be distracted.
But yeah, we can find it exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. It doesn't
it doesn't necessarily matter.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
But with that, when the video started trending and going
around social media, the question was not included in the
video because it was on purpose, Yes, because people wanted
this to be so juicy and dramatic, and it's like,
y'all like, it's really not that big of a deal.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I don't think that it is either either it's become
a big deal.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
It's become a big deal, and you and I see
it differently, and I still don't think it's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Because I don't think that's the point, right, Yes, they
don't like that, like.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
No, this is a big deal. Talk about it.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Whether he meant it or didn't. If he meant it,
then see other players are resenting it. And if he
didn't mean it, this is now becoming non story because
of what is in place and what Shudor is brought
to Cleveland Brown's camp. That's the point of it. So
it doesn't it doesn't even matter in regards to if
you're right or I'm right. I would gladly be wrong
(15:47):
and your position be correct because it proves the same
exact say it does.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
It does prove the same thing, even though we're looking
at it differently.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
All right, Jason says, we do have the question, so
maybe this will settle that and then we can.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Move on making Will you share that with everybody at Hart?
Speaker 7 (16:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (16:03):
I think it's just part of it.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Can you play that again?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Can you?
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (16:10):
I do?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Will you share that with everybody at Hart?
Speaker 7 (16:14):
Yeah? I think.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
I couldn't. I couldn't quite hear what she said. But right, well,
let's let's go off to Jason Stewart. Jason, that's your Monday.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Radio radio this.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Jason the mondays for Jason Stewart.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
This, even after his Dodgers swept the Padres something we'll
get into a little bit later. Isaac Lowercrond is here,
as is Iowa Sam hit Manzy up at Manzy Blanos.
Speaker 8 (16:39):
This is the best of the Done dot Leaf Show
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
And so what Trina was trying to do on Saturday.
It's Doug Gotlim Show, Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Buyer,
She's Monzy Bolanos. Something that uh, Iowa Sam loved his
train ridal half of it, at least on What a
great weekend it was. It was a great weekend for
Dodger fans. Jason Stewart is here Aasa went cron at
the news desk, and my, what a difference of seventy
(17:10):
two hours?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Do you remember?
Speaker 6 (17:12):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I don't know if I'm feeling different. I don't know
if I'm feeling different.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I'll tell you what on Friday, if you missed it,
Moncey and I were in for a good four hours
here on Fox Sports Radio. We're in for Doug. We
also were in later for Cavino and Rich. We were
talking baseball, and this was in advance of the series.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Jason sag Padre's Dodgers on Saturday night. But we kind
of had a conversation amongst US three about where the
Dodgers were currently as a team, because on Friday they
weren't in first place. They were a game back of
the Padres. Here's our exchange. If you need a refresher, Montoh,
this you need a refresher. This is what it sounded
(17:51):
like on Friday when Moncey and Jason were in panic
mode on the Dodgers, and I basically just told them
to chill.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
No, no, no, you should have been just turning it
on this whole time, or at least trying to. But
I'm on, Jason, where's the urgency again? Where is the
want to win?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
You know, you guys are it's really rich to hear
this like it truly is. I mean, it's it's August fifteenth.
If you sweep the series tonight, you leave the weekend
with a two game lead over the Padres, and you
beat your current, maybe not forever rival, but a current rival,
and this weekend can change everything. Oh wow, isaacra can
(18:37):
we get an updated look at the NLS standings right now?
Speaker 9 (18:40):
Well, first of all, it is just being reported by
multiple sources close to Fox Sports Radio that Dave Roberts
actually played that SoundBite in the clubhouse out there the
game for his team first place, the Los Angeles Dodgers
by a whopping enormous two game margin over the San
(19:02):
Diego Padres. But after those words by Dan, it might
as well be twenty jeez.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I mean, seriously, season is turned around now one three
in a row on series with the Rocket.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
Here's another tweet. Dodger players vote Dan Buyer a preemptive
World Series share.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Oh y, congratulations to you.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yes, and then you can get one for the Brewers,
and then all of a sudden, you got a full share.
I know you're trying to call me out here, but
the reality is, like, I don't feel.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I am not trying to call you out if you're
just telling you I'm a ridiculous you guys.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Is it bad that I want my team to freaking
be excellent? Is it bad that I want them to
strive for perfection? I know you can't actually be perfect.
You know how hard it is to repeat as a champion.
And if you're not focused, how can I trust you.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
To be focused? You can't be focused for one hundred
and sixty two games.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
But this game, this team is not like last year's team.
The dominance that that last year's team was is not
this team. The offense is not the same as last
year's offense. So I understand that you cannot focus for
one hundred and sixty two games. But if you take
your foot off the gas against a team like the Angels,
they haven't beat the Brewers this year. They haven't beat
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teams that are good and been consistently beating them. Thank goodness,
they beat the Padres and swept them. Yes, but is
that more because the Padres don't know how to play
against the Dodgers in the pressure? I don't know. I
am still don't take your foot off the.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Gas now, Jason, do you feel like Monci does? I mean?
Is that your takeaway from this weekend?
Speaker 6 (20:37):
I was encouraged. I was encouraged by the weekend. And
here's why. So on our nation's birthday, was it July fourth?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (20:43):
That was this year July fourth, they were nine games
up on the division. I think they went on to
lose like twenty two of twenty eight something crazy. So
I don't think that our skepticism on Friday was unwarned.
But I will say this, everything that went wrong in
those six weeks or five weeks, they seemingly fixed in
(21:06):
one weekend. And we're talking about when Kershaw left with
a one one run lead on Friday night. I sent
a text to Matsie and I think Bursch and Benson.
I said, Okay, we all know what happens next. They're
gonna give up the They're going to go up the
lead and the Potteries will win. Nope, they didn't. Saturday.
They got off to a big lead and they held it.
When was the last time we did that? Sat Sunday?
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Another thing was fixed Mookie Betts. Mookie Bets and the clutch.
Where's that guy been so seemingly dan in a matter
of three games against our biggest nemesis. I'm not going
to use the word rival nemesis. We seemingly fixed everything
that had been ail ailing us for six weeks. Is
what's his we and us business? By the way, I
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was there, Zach Broff.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I think Zach and Jason Bateman.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Whether it be in the National Football League, whether it
be in any other league. The key to repeating is
not being that super team throughout. It's trying to play
your best baseball or football when it starts to matter,
and there may be something that wakes you up. Listen,
the Brewers right now are in a spot where they're
(22:14):
about to try to add to their three to nothing
lead against the Cubs. So it would be fifteen wins
in sixteen games if they get this done. It's August eighteenth,
and for as great of a season as it has been,
there's no doubt Milwaukee is not going to be playing
the same baseball now that come October. Now it may
(22:34):
be a slight decrease. It's just tough to be at
your absolute best. So now it's just about peaking, Manzi.
So here we are midway through August, and I felt
the reason why I said what I said because it
wasn't to prove out that you were wrong. I was
just proving out that you and Jason are so negative,
and it's not that I predicted it. My point was
saying like, yeah, if you guys sweep, you'll be two
(22:56):
games up, and you've just gone through an awful month
and a half in your two games up in the
NL West.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
That's my point.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
So now the season kind of starts from here, and
you've got a new like a new reset point for
the rest of the season. And that's why I don't
know if the Dodgers will win the World Series. I
don't know if they'll repeat, but it's just a lot
to ask to do it throughout the season. So this
provided a great reset point for the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
If I choose to not be logical with how I
cheer for my teams, that is on me. Because yes,
everything you said is correct. Yes, I hear you. It
doesn't matter how the Dodgers made me have made me
feel this year.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
You hear me, but you're not listening, correct, right, That's right,
that's it. Yes, called a son, Yes, my son.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
I think that's what that SoundBite was. Between the Harps
is what I told Sam. It's an old industry term.
Between the Harps. That was that was a very measured
Dan Byer, who has zero emotional connection to a team,
predicting the three game sweep, which was pretty amazing. I'm
not going to and not give you credit for that, true,
but it was also two people that I think were
(24:03):
very warranted and their concerns about a team going into
mid August against in the biggest series of the season.
So I'm going to defend our emotion. Yeah, and I'm
gonna give Dan props for his uh for meso.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Logical Yeah, and you're right, and you are right. I
wish I was like, who cares?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's seeing the forest through the trees, Like I have
a different perspective than you guys, right on what the
what the Dodgers are right now? Boat Sweets and Dodgers
are zero to fourteen against the Angels, Brewers, and Astros
this year, thanks about sixty eight and thirty eight, you see,
against everyone else.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
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Speaker 2 (24:47):
Well, happy Monday, say goodbye to the weekend. I'm pretty
soon you're gonna be saying goodbye to summer. Officially not
until later in September, but Labor Day, two weeks from today.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
You know, summer here in LA has changed. Summer now
goes into October. It starts so late. I feel like
all the seasons have like shifted a little bit, and
now summer starts later. It hasn't even been that hot,
and it's gonna get hotter. And I think it's gonna
be Halloween and all those skimpy costumes. One that I
may wear. It'll be perfect because it's gonna be hot.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
So it was.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
It was a thanks Day after Thanksgiving, a black Friday
that I once put Christmas lights up and it was
ninety degrees and it was windy as bleep, but it
was warm.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yes, it was super one.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
No, I'm gonna tan in November.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
We're becoming Australia here in southern California. Welcome, good day, mates,
It's the Don Gottleam Show. He's about as firewarers. We're
gonna go Doug's at Wrigley Field today taking in Cubs brewers.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
How about that? What a way to spend them Monday.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, good for you, Doug. We'll take over for you.
Don't worry.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I know if Doug was here for the segment we're
about to do, he would say that he loves going
to Wrigley Field checking out some day baseball. We're gonna
do something else. It's gonna have some love. It's also
gonna have some hate.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
What did you love?
Speaker 7 (26:13):
God?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I love you? And what did you hate?
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Meet these player haters.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
It's a Monday staple here on the Doug Gottlieb Show,
Jason Stewart, Isaac Lohancron, Iowa Sam hanging out with Monty
and myself. What'd you love about this weekend? What'd you
hate about this weekend? Moncey. I'm not gonna start with you.
I'm giving you the entire steering wheel. You get to
pick who goes where.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Oh yes, who starts us out.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
We're gonna We're gonna go to Isaac Lohenkron to start
us off.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
All right with some love from the weekend.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
All right, we will take you to.
Speaker 9 (26:54):
Saturday evening Sofi Stadium in Inglewood in Los Angeles, chart
in Los Angeles Rams in an otherwise unimportant and uninteresting
preseason game, but a thrilling moment in the fourth quarter
with six forty five remaining, as Rams quarterback Stetson Bennett
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had his pass intercepted by a previously well widely unknown
Los Angeles Chargers defensive lineman named t Ra Edwards. T
Ri Edwards, who weighs in at three hundred and five pounds,
an undrafted rookie out of Illinois, and he joyously rumbled
for a twenty seven yard return. And not to get
(27:38):
too emotional or weepy or smoopy, as my wife called
it about this, but that's actually one of the cool
things about preseason football to see an undrafted person that
is completely out of the radar just make a really
great play, stand out play.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
And have a moment in the sun.
Speaker 9 (27:56):
There was another undrafted player named Luke Grimm in that
game who returned to punt sixty six yards for a touchdown.
Some guys who may never make it in the NFL
that that literally might be their one moment that they'll
remember and their loved ones will remember for the rest.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
Of their lives.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I'd love that. Can I love that?
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah? You can.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
If the Chargers were in hard knocks, that would be
twenty eight minutes of this week's episode would be just on.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
That play, right right after Justin Herbert has a smoothie.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yes, yes, I love it because there's nothing, nothing at
all investigative or diving deep. They love the cherry on
top stories, and that was one of them from Saturday.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
It's a good pick.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Isa Isaac had pre and postgame duties for a Chargers
football so I knew it wasn't going to be a RAM.
I knew it wasn't going to be Stetson Bennett. I
knew that was not going to be the case.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
All right, why don't we go to our producer, Jason. Jason,
what did you love about the Rieckie Montie.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
I'll take it from here. I went to the game
Saturday night, Saturday Night, Dodgers padres, second of three wins.
Speaker 8 (29:02):
I'll take it fromhere.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
We'll get to we'll get to the sweetwater on. But
I want to just talk about my experience because it's
all about me. Every once in a while, you have
important people get you tickets to games. It was my
super hot girl friend Christina's birthday, so we uh, we
got first class treatment, so our seats were kind of
behind home plate. Saw that first first or second real nice.
(29:27):
And then we got access to the dugout club. This
is how the other people live. Monzy knows all about this,
but poor people that work in radio like us don't
really get this. You go down to the dugout club
and you're eating on the Dodgers dime anything you want
to eat, hot dogs down to chicken that's very well made.
(29:48):
I can't whoever the word is. And then you know
you're you're you're buying your beer but like it's just
the way people on the other side live you're talking about.
We saw I saw Jason Bateman walk down there.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Nice.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Another star that I saw that a Gray's past what's
his name? What's his name from? Uh? Scrubs?
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Yes, nice. Anyways, that's my weekend. I loved it. Love
my Dodgers experience.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Congratulations, that is a nice experience in the Doug club.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Like Zach Braff is on the top of my list
of celebrities that annoy me.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
That's what I told him.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I said that to him because his Punked episode, he
came off like a total jerk.
Speaker 8 (30:33):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I didn't love Punked, so I didn't watch it a lot.
Like I watched it, and I told.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
On some people it did.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, because some people don't handle it.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah, correct, And I felt like he was one of them.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
You know, I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised he gives
that vibe off. And I didn't watch a lot of
Scrubs either, but he gives up a.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Very braffy so it just comes off very braffy.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Damn, why don't you continue with Gray and what you
loved about the weekend?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
So I took my son to the driving range on Saturday,
and he's learning golf. He's four years old. But we
were at the far end of the range and someone
came right next to us, and I told the guy, said, listen,
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he is just learning. He holds the golf club like
it's a hockey stick, like this is how he's swinging.
The clubs are probably too big for him. You may
be in you may be in harm's way. He goes,
don't worry about it. I'm just going to hit a couple.
I said, all right, Because I was at the hitting
Babe Brodie and I were alternating. Brody's sitting in the
chair behind me. I hear, watch the guy hit a
(31:44):
shot there it is my son yells bad shot. And
I was mortified, yet I could not. I had to
scold him to say, like, you can't yell bad shot
at someone else's shot. But I felt so bad, yet
I was trying.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Not to laugh because it was so funny.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
I did say, you cannot say that on the golf course,
like imagine, like even like if buddies would do it
to me, you'd totally get under my skin, let alone
a perfect stranger who just showed up. The guy nice
enough to admit. A couple of minutes later, he goes,
by the way, it was a bad shot, like so,
like so, Brody's got an eye on what is a
good shot and a bad shot. But I took him
(32:28):
to the course a couple of times this weekend and
that was Yeah, that was Saturday night when he told
the guy next to me that he just hit an
awful seven.
Speaker 9 (32:36):
H Toddie Bayer, the David Ferritelli Olds Bar.
Speaker 10 (32:40):
He did say that darned yeah right, yeah, they got
no filter, you have it. Here's the other part that
I love.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Every time that I would swing, he would yell, that's
what I'm talking about. And and some of mine were fat.
They were blocks to the right, they were duck hooks.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
You know. It was. He was my biggest cheerleader, which.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
I love that. What is it when you say it
was fat?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
So I give you you'll hit the ground before you first, Yeah, yes,
you'll hit the ground before you hit the ball. So
you go okay with the ball. If you were to
just say, hit just on the bottom of the club
and just hit the ball and it's a low line drive,
hit it thin.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
That sort of deal.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Me, got it, got it? That's amazing. So we were.
We were proud and embarrassed all at the same time. Yes,
good times. I always yam what did you love about
the weekend?
Speaker 10 (33:28):
So my love and hate come from the same day.
I'll start with my day starts with the love and
it ends with the hate. This was Saturday, so it
was our editor Ryan Bershinger. It was his birthday earlier
this week, and he invited us some people to take
the train from Seami Valley up to Santa Barbara and
kind of go around.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
You know, uh, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
Did you get this invitation?
Speaker 10 (33:51):
She was the first one I guaranteed had she had
other other things she had It was your working also.
Oh yes, okay, Manzi very much in demand. But we
can Monza cannot join us. So we made our way
up to Santa Barbara. Wonderful train ride or you know,
it's not a booze cruise, so it's I don't know,
it's a train rhyme.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
I don't know. We can come on, Dan, you're the
pun guy. Here is a train. I just can't believe
I wasn't invited. That's I'm sorry, stuck on. Sorry, Yes,
I'm sure you would have let's just.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Ask him for a front. Could you go back into
their wedding invite and take away the gifts you gave them?
Are you on Dan's behalf?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
You're not invited as well?
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Just have we started honest invited?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
I'm sure Dan you would have.
Speaker 10 (34:36):
You would have joined us at ten o'clock in the
morning for a red Bull in vodka get things started.
We could have waltzed and then we waltzed over the
train anyway, So we go down to Santa Barbara. Love
of the sun eventually came out in the afternoon. We
were sipping wine and beers, eating, drinking and uh, it
was just a lovely day. It was a lovely day
till we got back on the train. And I will
save I will say that they hate.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
I do love.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Sam could have just said I don't have to Santa
Barbara with friends this weekend, but he wants the name
drop for everybody else that will follow in his stead today.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Turn that screw one more knowledge.
Speaker 10 (35:08):
Yes, I had to involve FSR, you know, make it
FSR centric.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yes, I'll wrap it up and I'll keep it short here.
You know, I had a busy Saturday and I had
a long drive and we work in sports and sometimes
you just want to like tune sports out right. You
were kind of like, I don't want to listen to
this game. I don't want to listen to anybody talk
about anything. And I put on a crime Junkie podcast
and for ninety minutes, I forgot that I was in traffic,
(35:32):
and I just appreciated that. For I did not know
that ninety minutes of seeing in traffic, I was gonna
walk away and be like, damn, that girl's still missing.
I wonder where she's at. I wonder if they're ever
going to find her. Like it, I thank you to
Crime Junkie Podcasts for separating me from traffic and sports
for ninety minutes. That I needed that. And sometimes you
just don't know where to turn to crime.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Jon And she traveled three point two miles in that
ninety minute, so that was even better.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
I could have ran it, I'd say, traffic in this
I thinks I could have.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Ran it faster, could have ran it faster.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
All right, let's get to our hates. Yeah, all right,
all right, you got the steering wheel.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Do you want to kick us off?
Speaker 8 (36:13):
Dan?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
What did you hate about the weekend?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I hate the Big Tens proposal of twenty four to
twenty eight teams for the college Football Playoff. Their heart
was in the right place. I think that they they're
sticking to a model where it would have four automatic
qualifiers with the Big Ten, the SEC, a couple for
the S or the ACC, and the Big twelve, and
then you would have a group of five and three
(36:36):
automatic qualifiers. The Big Ten has also floated the idea
of instead of having our top two teams play for
a conference championship game, we would have the third best
team play the sixth best team, and the fourth place
team play the fifth place team, and the winner of
those two could be the automatic qualifiers along with the
top two teams in this sixteen team model. Then they
thought to themselves, well, wait, why would our teams have
(36:57):
to play our teams? Why not just include all all
of our schools and then the SEC can include all
of theirs, and they'll play each other instead, and we
don't have to knock each other out. Why don't we
have a twenty four to twenty eighteen bracket. You can
see the reasoning, but it's gone so far off the tracks.
No one wants this. Nobody would want this. No one
(37:17):
wants big noon kickoff at Wisconsin at Maryland on a
Saturday for the seventh spot in the Big Ten to
possibly make the playoffs. Nobody wants that their heart may
have been in the right place and their deductive reasoning
of how we could do this and make this work
is fine. There's not a single person around that would
want to see college football go to a twenty eighteen playoff.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Not at all. I hope I speak for everyone.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Sam. Why don't you finish out why you hit it
about the weekend and then just give it? Do you
agree with you?
Speaker 6 (37:48):
Hear you? Dan?
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Yeah? I do?
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Okay, Yeah, okay, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Don't like it.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
You don't like it?
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Here?
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
So, picking up a from Anna Barbara train.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Story Weibersinger's birthday.
Speaker 10 (38:00):
You said, used the tournament, something went off, the idea
went off the tracks. Yeah, well, my return trip didn't
go off the tracks literally physically. Would saw it on
the news? Yes, you would have. So we're all getting
into the train. The sun's going down. We're all pretty faded.
It's been a long day of imbibing and waltzing about
Santa Barbara on the lovely day. Anyway, we must have
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stumbled upon the train car that was holding the group
on dot com sixteenth annual Ladies Be Shopping Convention, because
this woman had this one woman named Trina. She started
walking up and down the aisles and all these women
were like cheering and drinking, and then you can drink alcohol.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
They serve alcohol in the train.
Speaker 10 (38:38):
This woman named Trina had a whistle and she kept whistling,
and people had like a boombox, and we were just
like trying to relax, and this this woman was just
like turn it into the party train. And it was
really fun at first, and then you were like, Okay,
we're all exhausted, and this woman is blowing this whistle
in my ear as she's passing by. So it went
from like an hour and a half train ride that
was supposed to be just enjoyable and relaxing, and it
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was just ridiculously annoying. And then we would make stops
and then we'd be at like the Ventura stop for
fifteen minutes and we're supposed to be only there for
like one minute and take off. So by the time
we finally got back, we were all just exhausted and irritable.
And at that point needed another drink to cope with
the ladies, be shopping convention or whatever it was.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
We stumbled upon.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
That sounds like a Fox Sports Sunday two to five party,
singing people's blowing whistles, taking videos the whole day.
Speaker 10 (39:26):
I I, yes, I would consent to that, but I
did not consent to this. This woman was very lively
and she was having a great time. And I just
sat there and grand and barried it because I didn't
want to poop poop on her good time. But it
was quite the return trip back. It was wild, wild.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Poor Trina. She got caught a stray. She's at work
right now. It has no idea. She's just been throwing
under the bus. Not only is she had chopaholic, she's
annoying it and.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
National radio.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (39:55):
Well, I mean, you know by the end of it,
where I was kind of hating on treeing a little bit.
So that's my hate, all right, you know what, she
had good time, So what can you say.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I'm gonna tell you what I hated about the weekend.
I hated the rams attempt to deceive me that Matthew
Stafford is not well. What is he well? Or is
he not because I'm over here having discussions that the
Rams need to move on from Matthew Stafford and that
he's not doing well. He's thirty seven with his back issues,
and they're like, he was supposed to practice Saturday, but
we'll give me We're gonna make an announcement on Monday.
(40:21):
That sounds really bad. And then you come out today
and you're like, oh, no, he had a good practice
a whole hour. He is fine. Stop deceiving me, Rams,
he is not okay. It feels very remember last year
before the season started how the forty nine ers hand
handled Christian McCaffrey. Oh, I feel like it's not yes, yes,
(40:45):
And it's obviously even worse with Christian McAffrey because of
the fantasy and people drafting him number one overall and
then he's not. But it's like, stop telling me half
truths when it comes to Matthew Stafford, please, because I'm
over here having arguments with Kerry and then here is oh,
he's fine, Then what am I arguing?
Speaker 2 (41:04):
You're to your point, though, for them to not play
Jimmy Garoppolo at all during the preseason tells us what
we need to know about Matthew.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Stafford exactly exactly, but no, no, he's fine. He had
a whole hour of practice day. Give me a break. Grams, Jase,
what did you hate about the weekend?
Speaker 5 (41:19):
So?
Speaker 6 (41:19):
I do too way too much Twitter. I shouldn't be
on Twitter as much as I am, so uh the
people that want it both ways? Okay? So uh NFL
Twitter this weekend downplayed Caleb Williams nice quarter or nice
drive by saying it's only preseason. These were the same
(41:40):
group of idiots that overplayed and over analyzed him missing
the net three times in practice? So which one? Which
one is it? You're gonna overplay him missing the net
three times in our practice and then downplay when he
does well in the game. You can't have it both ways.
You just want to be negative, Nancy, no matter what happens.
(42:01):
And I just don't Joe with that. Dan, I'm an
overly positive guy.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Definitely.
Speaker 9 (42:08):
It's funny how literally all of us laughed, and he.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Said that, yes, people think that Jason's full name is
resident hater Jason Stewart because of how often Doug says
it here.
Speaker 10 (42:18):
Or what was that term that Jim Rome gave me,
benign troll? That's what you are then.
Speaker 6 (42:23):
Cat me a benign troll. Recently, you agree that.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
This weekend I did, like Caleb Williams, this weekend, we're
going to dive into that right a little bit.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
We had moved past it. But that's okay. No, no
we can't. No, that's okay, that's all right. No, we
can absolutely do it.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
No.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
I just but it's exactly what Jason Stuart kind of
was talking about. I was annoyed at the negative reports
of how training camp is going when it's like, yo,
he has a new coach, it's a whole new thing
he's learning and does preseason not matter because you can
tell me it doesn't matter, and then he goes out
and does a good job and it's like nothing. So
I'm rooting for him.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I think that the expectation and are so absurd with him.
And this is the point I made with Mike Harmon yesterday,
is if he's the first overall pick, we can't sit
there and cherry pick even if he was thought to
be the generational talent. So like cam Ward, Caleb Williams
should have the same sort of expectations even if their
(43:20):
situations aren't different, which means and by saying that is,
Caleb Williams shouldn't be so high, and maybe cam Ward
shouldn't be so low. If you're the first overall pick
of a drafts, there should just be a pocket where
you need to be and of Caleb Williams, and I
used Philip Rivers as an example of if you had
Philip Rivers career, which by the way, would be zero
(43:41):
Super Bowl appearances and zero Super Bowl wins. I think
for a Bears fan, you would you would run to
the counter, Yes, cash that in. It would be worth
that that pick to draft that sort of guy. But
I think everybody wants him to be Tom Brady, Drew Brees,
Peyton Manning and this generational and I just I think
(44:01):
that that's what's unfair to him in the expectations and
we view in how we view how good he is.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Absolutely part of the reason I'm rooting for him, and
in reality, I feel like all the pressure in that
division should be going to the Packers anyway. Isaac, Yes,
sizic Low and Crime.
Speaker 9 (44:16):
At first I hated this because I felt bad for
the guy, but now I secretly think it's hilarious, particularly
with how gracious he handled it while Scotti Scheffler was
winning the BMW Championship. A golfer named Ben Griffin yesterday
had a horrible start, six over par over the first
three holes yesterday. The reason why he accidentally overdosed on creatine,
(44:41):
He'll explain.
Speaker 11 (44:42):
And I had this like basically a snowball of creating.
So I'd been in my bucket for probably like a month,
and I like broke it up and put in my
water bottle whatever, like I'm all good, Like I've taken
creatine on the AF person before, it's fine. But I
started taking it for my second shot and I accidentally
swallowed like one of the one of the big rox
kind of that was in my water bottle. And I've
(45:03):
never overdosed on creatine before, but I think I did
in the moment because I didn't really drink any water
after that. I basically just enaled like a snowball, and
so I started getting like super shaky, and I've never
felt like this before, and I literally felt like I got trimmers.
Speaker 9 (45:19):
So good on him for just explaining in a good
natured way. And once the overdose was gone, he was
seven under over the last fifteen holes, So that overdosing
on creatine on a golf course.
Speaker 6 (45:34):
That's the first time I heard.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
That he four putted from five feet, which I.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Mean that's four putting, yes, so four attempts. Yes to
get Wow, that's not good.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
You should make the Ryder Cup team. He should. He's
he's not an automatic qualifier. But that decision we'll find
out will be when Keigan Bradley has to make. But
Ben Griffin's been very, very good this year, and he's
good with social media as well, and good and explaining
what happened to him, all.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Right, And that's what we love and hated about the weekend.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
I will say this, I love that Fox change their
on screen graphics. Their score bug is what we use
for the Super Bowl. The KC and the PHI with
Philadelphia and Kansas City were way too big, way too awkward.
Last night in the game between the Bears and Bills,
they just used their logos so much better and so
(46:26):
much better, and so that I'm hoping when the Buccaneers
wear their throwback uniforms, the creamsicicles and when the Seahawks
were theirs, you.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Want to see that guy the throwback.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yes, I want to see Bucko Bruce. I want to
see the old Seahawk. I don't want to see the
new logo at all. She is Moncey Bellagios. I'm Dan Byer.
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