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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Moncey, I don't want to give a correction right out
of the gates, but I feel it's one network, one dude,
one gal, ninety seven different time slots. Is that appropriate
for you and me.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
As we sit it for Doug todaysh You're right, we
need to switch that up a little bit.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
That's so perfect. You're not wrong.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Dan. We're here, there and everywhere on Fox Sports Radio.
Welcome in, just like the Dallas Cowboys are here, there
and everywhere talking about the Cowboys even when there isn't
a game to talk about. Hit Mancy up at Manzy Bolanos.
You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Isaac
Low and Cron will be keeping us up today of
what's happening on this Thursday, breaking news and whatnot. There

(01:03):
doesn't seem to be a lot of news about Micah
Parsons and the Dallas Cowboys, except that Brian Schottenheimer SETI
expects Parsons to be ready two weeks from today. Yes,
two weeks from today is the season opener for the
Dallas Cowboys, even though no progress has been made on
a new contract about the Dallas Cowboys. But that's not
the Cowboys that we are talking about. We are talking

(01:23):
about the movie Star Dallas Cowboys, the documentary Star Dallas Cowboys,
as they've been shining on Netflix since their debut earlier
this week. As The Cowboys Documentary has many interested, including
us here at Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, no, Dan, I was not entirely sure what I
was getting myself into. I was like, Okay, another sports
thing that I'm gonna go pretend to watch and see
how much it peaks my interests.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
I was hooked.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Dan two episodes last night. I went to about it
at two in the morning because I was like.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
I gotta I have to know what happens with America's team.
Now I know what happens with the America's team.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
But I was, uh, you know, either not born or
just coming out into the world when all of this
was happening, and so I there's certain details I was
unfamiliar with, and I was, I'm telling you, I was hooked.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
I like, I can't wait to go watch episode three
or five, six, eight.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
This is quite the change of opinion from Manzi, considering
what was texted at about nine p thirty last night
from Jason Stewart in our group text. Mancey's response, I
haven't started watching it and don't know if i'll have
time to do it before tomorrow. Show it's a place
it's changed.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yes, yes, I didn't. I just was like, you know,
when you're when you're off at late from the station.
I got home and I was like, I'm just gonna
put it on and if it keeps me up, it
keeps me up.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
If not, I'm going to sleep.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
And that's that's telling the story of this documentary.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
No, I was, I had to watch too. I had
I had to see what happened next.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
And there are eight episodes in all. I am through
three of them. This debut on Tuesday. Well, you know,
Manci's not gonna watch it Tuesday, that's volleyball. And then
last night was Wednesday when she's at Fox Sports Radio,
and now she's here today. But she was able to
carve out time, just like I was able to. Jason
Stewart was so hooked I thought he watched the whole thing.

(03:21):
He How many episodes are you through, Jason right now?
The Cowboys documentary?

Speaker 5 (03:25):
I am through three. So they just defeated the Forts.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Spoiler don't give it away, Yeah, don't give it away,
which in the way you laugh. But as Moncey says,
she doesn't remember, she doesn't remember this. She wasn't old
enough to remember this era. So when you're young enough,
Humble bragg By Monci by the way, that is kind
of a spoiler alert, like you're gonna find out, Oh,

(03:50):
they end up winning this game despite the field conditions
and what's happening. You kind of get the sense as
you're watching it in what's going to happen. But a
lot of us know this history. There are some people
like Mancy, like Iowa Sam who were born at a
time where this isn't in their back pocket that they
vividly remember all of this. You could go back and

(04:12):
learn it and understand who beat who, But you really
are kind of starting to live through this Cowboys era. Yes,
but you're living it through and this is the problem.
This is the problem with this. You're living it through
the eyes of Jerry Jones.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
And I have no problem with that.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
You have no problem with it, but I think some
people will and I have a problem with it. I
thought that this was a Cowboys documentary. That's what I
thought this was about. Let's talk about the nineteen ninety
Dallas Cowboys. And so when I turn it on, it
starts with Jerry Jones buying the team. There is no

(04:49):
doubt about that. Completely understand that. Knew that Jerry Jones
was going to have a significant role in this documentary.
What I didn't realize was the name of the documentary,
which told me everything that I needed to know. There
are documentaries that are you'll watch and you don't necessarily
know the title. You'll just be like, did you see
did you see the you know, the documentary on the

(05:11):
Ravens when they, you know, won the Super Bowl and Tony,
Sarah Gusa, all those guys. Yeah, I don't know what
the name of that was. I just know that it's
the Ravens documentary. This documentary is called The Gambler and
the Dallas Cowboys. So he doesn't even give the team
that he owns first billing as this is about Jerry Jones,

(05:34):
and that's what makes this so intriguing because nothing that
has been said on this network or other networks or
other shows Manzi as of late, has been positive about
Jerry Jones. This is his opportunity to take over the narrative.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
So I totally hear what you're saying, and you're not
wrong at all. I hear that, But there was more
to the first ten minutes of this cinematography wise, like
we have so many options to watch sports things, you
know what I mean, Like receiver quarterback the second season,
we've got hard knocks, Like I'm just like over it right,
And I was hooked immediately, even though I agree this

(06:12):
is obviously trying to make Jerry Jones come out in
a specific light that he wants us to think, and
I just thought it's it's the way it's been executed
through two episodes is why it's keeping me entertaining. It
also wouldn't work if the story of America's team during
that time wasn't entertaining within itself, and then having all
of those guys sit there and talk about it like

(06:35):
I just I get it. I am living only through
a specific lens. But it's entertaining and I am more
hooked on this, and I have been on Hard Knocks
and other shows lately, and I even though I you're right, Dan,
You're right, I'm being bamboozled, but I don't care.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
It's I think people were bamboozled by the last Dance
and to be able to Michael Jordan has been for
as much as the Jordan brand has been out there,
Michael Jordan's kind of in a way a secret figure,
if you know what I mean. But he would never
like there was this, There was the life of Michael
Jordan that you didn't know, the gambling, everything that came

(07:15):
with it, the sudden retirement. For as much as you
think you know about Michael Jordan, I don't think that
we do. And I think that he's wanted to carry
himself in that way while making billions of dollars off
of his brand and being the greatest basketball player that
we've seen. But the argument for the last Dance that
I would say, which I think is very fitting in

(07:36):
tying with this Cowboys deal, is the last dance. The
last dance was pushed up because there was nothing going
on during COVID. However, it was still planned in that
general vicinity of time of twenty twenty and twenty twenty one.
And this is also a time, Manzi where Lebron James
had just ended up going off of a streak of

(07:58):
NBA finals, NBA Finals, NBA finals, you know, NBA title,
NBA Finals, NBA like just a crazy run where we
were starting to have the argument of is Lebron James
the greatest player that we've ever seen? I felt this
was Michael Jordan's way of trying to change that narrative,

(08:19):
and in a way, I feel that Jerry Jones is
doing the same thing with the Dallas Cowboys. In essence,
it's also kind of a living funeral. I know that
sounds very morbid, but Jerry Jones wants us to all
know and realize and say the great things about the
Dallas Cowboys that happened thirty thirty five years ago without
talking about all of the stuff that is happening now

(08:40):
with the Dallas Cowboys, which skews very negative because of
their lack of ultimate success.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Again, you're not wrong, but I also feel like in
today's day and age, there's people like you, Dan that
will want to point out the other side to the
ones that are enjoying the documentary. And I also don't
think it really like I'm not a Cowboys fan, you know,
so like if somebody wants to come at me and
show me, oh no, it's been terrible, look at all this,
I'd be like, Okay, but I don't care, Like I'm

(09:09):
just enjoying this thoroughly for the form of entertainment, Like
I I'm not taking this like my opinion of Jerry
Jones's changing. That's I don't think that's happening. I think
I have a good idea of Jerry Jones and the
type of person he is. This is just putting a
spotlight on those successful years for the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
That yeah, Like maybe you're right that this is being
pushed on on purpose right now to remind everybody that
it wasn't always so bad, Like hey, we did have
some good years. Let's go back to that.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
You're probably not wrong because Jerry Jones is all about himself,
as you already pointed out that the show is the
Gambler and his Cowboys is out how right?

Speaker 2 (09:47):
The ties right?

Speaker 3 (09:49):
So you pointed it out like it could not be
more clear that you are right and that Jerry Jones
is trying to make us positively talk about him. But
I feel like, on the other other side, people are
still gonna love to hate on the Cowboys. Like he
gets all the good press maybe from this, he's still
getting all the bad press from it as well, because
people are gonna want to point out it wasn't always

(10:10):
like this.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
You're looking at it through rose colored lenses.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Let's talk about the bad stuff like that conversation is
still gonna.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Happen with the people that you know need to have it.
I'm just like, let me watch this doc It's so good.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I have a feeling that you're just kind of telling
me like it's not that deep.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
It's not that deep but for me, But for me,
you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Like I think for maybe Cowboys Cowboys fans, it might
be that.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Deep, but for me, it's absolutely not Cowboys. That's right.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Oh, that's right. Jason Stewart's our executive producer. You're more
in my era than you would be of Moncey. Where
do you come out on on what Jerry's deal was
in doing this documentary.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
I'm fascinated by Mancy's perspective in this respect, because I
think Jerry Jones incorporated Jerry Jones and his team and
people want people to learn the story. For the first
time watching this documentary, it is utterly void of any
of the negative stuff that you and I lived through

(11:16):
during the story. They have Skip Bayliss on camera, and
I thought, oh, Skip's gonna probably give some balance to this.
Skip was the one who wrote the book in the nineties,
but they rarely go to him unless he's saying overly
positive things about Jerry, if you noticed so. In other words,
the access. The first thing that sticks out when you

(11:38):
start watching the documentary is WHOA. Look at the names
that they secured for this documentary. I don't think we've
ever seen this collection of people in the same production.
So you're like, Okay, then that means that there's something
going on here, because access typically means something has to give,
and what had to give was all all the negative

(12:01):
stuff and less Dan and less. After episode three, they
start really getting into the stuff, which I don't think
they will. So it's very fascinating to hear Moncy talk
about this because she's right, it's very well done, and
Jerry's a great storyteller, so he's compelling to watch.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
I just like Jeff Perlman, who wrote wrote a book
on the cowboys, I forget what it's called when they
were Boys or something like that. He posted something on
social media last night that I think is consistent with
what Dan is saying, is that this is a story.
It's not the story. I wrote the book. I know
all the dirty details that are being left out of

(12:39):
this what's going on here, and I would have loved
more of that balance in the first at least three episodes.
But that's kind of my takeaway so far. I am
in Manci's camp, and I'm gonna keep watching.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
I'll give you an example of where I feel that.
I think that not Mancy isn't seeing, but that there's
two sets every story. I think how it's put together,
And in Jerry's words, is I was justified in firing
Tom Landry and Tex Shram and all these other people
that were there because we went out and we won
three Super Bowls early on, and that's one side of

(13:18):
the story. Like there was the clip of the woman
who's answering the phone saying, like, I don't know what's happening.
I've lost my job. And as it sure sounds like
the Cowboys, for as much success as they had in
the nineteen seventies, that they were still a mom and
pop shop for the first thirty years of their existence,
and maybe they were, you know, outdated in who they

(13:39):
were and that the Cowboys were this team that even
though in the seventies they allowed the city to bounce
back from the JFK assassination, because by the way, that
was a piece of this documentary if you haven't seen it,
that then they were starting to get old and bland,
and I mean Tom. They were saying Tom Landry wasn't
remembering things and not remembering plays. That's a pretty harsh

(14:01):
light to put on someone who's a Hall of Fame
head coach that isn't living anymore, there is no way
to defend himself and is considered a legend, and that's
included in this documentary. So there's a lot to it
in terms of that side of the story. Now, I
do want to say to Jason's point, I am going
to watch some more. I may not be as excited,
but I want to know when the cocaine and hookers

(14:23):
come into play, nice and if they will at all, Right,
now that's spoilers, but but hey, we don't know if
they're going to. So there's a reason on why I
will continue to want to watch the documentary because I
do want to know if it gets into the dirt
and maybe the downfall of the Dallas Cowboy.

Speaker 6 (14:41):
So Monse, are you familiar with the White House?

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (14:45):
No, yes I am.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yes I am, yes, but again not not you know
what I mean, not the real details, but yes I
know about that, and like I will tell you, Dan,
I that beginning where I learn in detail of life
Tom Landry and basically you hand picking your homie that
was already coaching in Miami, Like I was like.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Oh, what an ass? What an ass to do this?
Like I literally and I still think that what an ass?

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Even though they had success, absolutely like I would be like, what,
who's this guy coming into my home and taking my team?
Like I totally felt that for the people, and even
though I knew that story, seeing those those clips of
back then and the fans in bars saying that they
hated him and who.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Is this guy? I was like, I feel that I
what an ass?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Do you think?

Speaker 8 (15:40):
Crown?

Speaker 2 (15:41):
I think this is. I was gonna ask Manto this question,
but it's unfair because I know the obvious answer. I
want to ask Jason and Isaac just because they're of
my generation. I know what Manzi's generation and Sam's generation
is gonna answer. Is Jerry Jones more Cowboys than Tom
Landry is?

Speaker 6 (15:58):
That's a great question. Question, That's a great question.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
I think, and Manti you would say absolutely right. I
mean just yes, yes, yes, I actually think he is.
I and I do too.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
That's a great question.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yes, And I think that's that's even part of the
goal of this is to show, like, you know, not
only did I do wrong or you know, did I
not do them wrong? But I'm more of the Dallas
Cowboys than anybody has ever been, considering the team came
about in nineteen sixty.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
I agree, And I do think that that was a
cringey moment. I thought, when I say that this documentary
is void of negativity, I don't mean it's void of
negativity about anybody. It's void of negativity. It has negativity
when it when it suits Jerry Jones'.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Story, when it's a nice dramatic I.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
Thought they did him pretty dirty there. That was that
was a really crappy thing to do to Tom Landry.
They didn't need that part about he was asleep during
meetings forgetting plays like you could just say you moved
off a legend and it was a very hard decision
without including those deeps. I thought that was pretty brutal.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
And he got a parade, He got a parade, right?

Speaker 3 (17:05):
What where one hundred thousand people showed up for a
parade when a coach was fired? Let goer and I
did not I did not know about that parade. I
was like, what was the parade for?

Speaker 4 (17:14):
What are they celebrating?

Speaker 6 (17:15):
They didn't even do that when Luca got traded in Dallas?

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Like what what man? That man was loved? I can
see again what an ass.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yes, but you wouldn't know it because guess what. They
were in the playoffs a couple of years later, and
then they're on their way to the super Bowl and
as we know, sorry spoiler award, spoiler alert, they won
three super Bowls in four years. But this is also
interesting for two other things. First of all, this Cowboys
championship window, it was a four year span, Like that's

(17:47):
that's what it was. We're not talking about decades long
of you know, success like the Patriots. But it also
shows you of why the Patriots documentary was put out way.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Too soon, way too soon.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Everybody lived it. I hated the Dallas Cowboys. I did
not like Jerry Jones and did not like Jimmy Johnson,
did not like the Dallas Cowboys at all. But I
am watching this looking back on it being like, yeah,
I remember, and while I didn't root for them like
the Patriots, when we all still hated the Patriots, so
who wanted to watch them win again? So the timing

(18:20):
of that documentary that was put out by Apple TV
that Bill Belichick couldn't stand was definitely to serve the
ego of Robert Kraft, but done way too soon. But
like Craft, I feel like Jerry Jones wants his own
living funeral. He wants everybody to don't know how great
he was, and while he's still alive, to hear all
these things, even if things haven't been great as of late.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
That's it, Dan, right there. He wanted it while he
was still alive, so he can't experience it. You're right,
yp you are so right about that.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
You know, the one about the Patriots made no sense
because that didn't benefit anyone.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Except Bob Craft.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
But I don't even know if it because again, it
was like, bro, we lived it, We lived it.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Tom Brady looks the same, like come on, but this
one feels like it was a different lifetime ago.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
It feels like that, at least, you know, for me.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
And like you said, you you remembered you had those
memoriescause you probably hadn't thought about it, So this just.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
I know, it's weird because Jerry Jones' is still.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Around, and definitely the Cowboys are struggling, so it's obviously
there are goals here. But I do feel like it's
been long enough where it feels like a different lifetime.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I guarantee you. They said, why don't we call it
the Cowboys and the Gambler, And he's like, nah, why
don't we change it around? I think the Gambler and
his Cowboys sounds a lot better, a lot better.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
And make sure you start with me right there.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
I've been talking about it a lot.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
I want a zoom in slowly of me sitting at
this desk.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
That's how we start, and.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Then we go, uh, she's watsy Bolonios hit her up
at Mantzi Bolangios. You can find me at Dan Byer
on Fox. Jason Stewart's here find him at Jason Stewart.
I was Sam and Isaac Lowancron also along for the
ride today.

Speaker 9 (20:00):
This is the best of the Done Dot Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
A Happy Thursday. As the final week of the NFL
preseason begins tonight, everything will be wrapped up by the
time we get to Sunday morning. Welcome in. It is
a Thursday, and Mancy, you know what else it is.
It's a couple of things.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Week zero in the college football season comes up on Saturday. See,
but it's also the final normal weekend before Labor Day weekend,
so it's kind of entering the final weekend of summer.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
No, Dan, summer is going to go into October and November.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
We've the weather might, but your life will not because
of school, because of other commitments. The temperature may say different,
the weather patterns may be different, but your life and
your schedule is about to change after that this weekend.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Fine, you make an excellent point.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
It is gonna get or feel extra busy soon.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Early Labor Day this year September one. Yeah, that means
September fourth, the start of the NFL season, and that
is two weeks from tonight. It is almost here. Your
long wait since the Eagles were dominating the Chiefs in
Super Bowl fifty nine, Your long wait is almost over.
By the way, that seems like it was six weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
It does it does?

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I know Jason Stewart loves the time conversation, but it
does seem like it was just six weeks ago that
we were watching the Eagles dominate and I'm waiting for
Iowa Sam to say Cooper Dejene picking off Patrick Mahomes
and running a back for a touchdown. It does feel
like I did. You're welcome. It does seem not that

(21:55):
long ago. Speaking of looking back, we always do it
at this time every third today. This is the uh,
the brainchild of myself and Jason Stewart in a segment
we like to call.

Speaker 9 (22:12):
I don't call it a throwback Thursday.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Jason Stewart, thank you, Dan.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
I'll take it from here. You know what the good
thing about radio is is that there are listeners right
now that are listening to this feature for the first time.
There are also, like you know, a different mix of
people working the show today, So I'm gonna just forget
the fact that we've probably done this year three times.

(22:44):
We're just gonna We're gonna redo it. Just like Joe
Dimagio said, there's somebody in the audience that is watching
you for the first time.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Can we reveal a little bit of the curtain since
you and I kind of devised this segment, please, yes,
I had it one way Jason thought it would go another.
One of the concerns I had about the segment after
thinking about it at first, was we're gonna run out
of years, Like there's only there's like we can't be
like nineteen forty seven now, like that doesn't what happened.

(23:17):
It's like it is it relative. Plus I'm in my
late forties, Jason's in his early fifties. We don't remember
necessarily the first couple of years of our lives when
it comes to sports Manzi and Sam weren't even close
to being born at those times, so like there's still
only a window. And when you have fifty two weeks
out of the year and you don't remember fifty two

(23:38):
years of sports were we were always going to be limited,
So there's there's nothing that we can do about that.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
So what we're gonna do is we're gonna provide for
you some amazing content in the next five to eight
minutes twenty sixteen. I want every listener listening now to
go back to that time. What was I doing in
August of twenty sixteen. I want the five members of
this this show on air today to think about what
they were doing. And the reason why I've picked twenty
sixteen today is what happened on August twenty first, twenty sixteen. Well,

(24:12):
let me tell you. The USA basketball team was in
Rio for the Olympics. Kevin Durant was scoring thirty points
in a thirty point win over Serbia in the gold
medal game, and USA when they're third straight gold medal
under head coach Mike Shrzyzhewski, I don't remember a whole

(24:33):
lot about that game down so I went and googled
a little bit. Carmelo Anthony was on that team, Draymond
Green was on that team, and Klay Thompson was a
part of that team. Of course, that was, you know,
in the wake of something that we'll probably also discuss.
It was in the wake of Lebron James and the
Cavs defeating the Warriors earlier on in the summer as

(24:55):
they erased a three to one series deficit. Dan Byer,
what do you re for most about twenty sixteen in sports?

Speaker 2 (25:03):
It is it is that moment Cleveland getting a championship,
because it wasn't It wasn't just about Lebron fulfilling his
promise to the city. It was it was about the city.
It wasn't about the Calves, it wasn't about Lebron. It
was everything to do with what was happening with Cleveland

(25:24):
and the Browns close calls that they had not making
it the Super Bowls and having the drive and the
fumble derail their hopes of bringing a Super Bowl to town.
The then Indians now Guardians had been close a time
or two in winning a World Series and were unable
to do it even that later on that year. I'm

(25:46):
sure that we'll get to but it was Lebron bringing
home that title for the city of Cleveland that I
just It's the It was much more than just Lebron
winning his third. It was much more than that, and
that's why I think it stands out so much.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
This is for you, so I agree, obviously it's the
first thing I think about too when it comes to
the NBA. But it was also Kobe's final year in
the NBA and his final game. I remember sitting there
and watching again Laker hater through and through, but I
sat there and I watched Kobe drop what was it,

(26:24):
sixty points something on his final game.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
I watched the entire game. By the end of that,
I had tears a little tear.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
In my eye because I just was like, I am
never going to watch a player on the Lakers that
makes me feel this way. Kobe I used to hate
watch because he was so good and he constantly made
you know, played well against teams that I wanted him
to lose to, and he was so good. And I

(26:52):
remember that I watched the entire game, and I think
the Warriors were playing, and I kept going back and
forth in there we go, there we go, and I
was I kept going back and forth, and then by
the end of it, I was just watching Kobe.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
That's I remember. I was like, I have to have
to finish. I have to finish watching Kobe because.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
This is it.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
I'm never gonna do this again.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
And then personally, that was the first time I ran
a half Marathon was in twenty sixteen, so nice, there
we go, There we go.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
Nice. Yes, I was working local radio and I got
credentials to go to that Kobe Bryant game, so I
could actually say I was there high above the floor.
And I remember specifically, and we played this on this
show within the last year or two, what Kobe did.

(27:39):
He grabbed the microphone at the end of the game
and he addressed the crowd. And I did not know
that it would hit me so hard, but we replayed
Kobe that ended in Kobe out and drops the mic.
What he says during that speech is so emotional. My goodness.
There was not a dry eye on the show when
we replayed it. Dan specifically got very emotional.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
It was a great year of huge happenings. And I
don't even want to leave basketball because I know if
Doug was on this show, he would say the greatest
shot in NCAA tournament history was made, and that was
Chris Jenkins of Villanova hitting the buzzer beater against North
Carolina to win the national championship. There are other amazing

(28:24):
shots and some may differ, but I believe I may
be putting words in Doug's mouth. But I don't think
that I am that he considers that shot by Villanova
in winning their first of two national championships the greatest
shot that he's seen in the NCAA tournament of just
North Carolina tying in on a crazy shot, Villanova just
running up court, and then always Jay Wright being so

(28:46):
cool and collected as they win the national championship twenty
sixteen was loaded. And we're not even halfway through some
of this stuff. But even in the basketball world that
gets buried because of all the great stuff that happen
in the NBA.

Speaker 6 (29:01):
That is true.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
And when I asked Isaac what he's got for us,
he said he what a smorgasborg Schmorgas board.

Speaker 7 (29:08):
Good job, Morgas board, getting hungry.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
All right, we'll start with I got three Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
Down.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
I was gonna say, you're going to Iowa, Sam this
and give us like three different things? Is that?

Speaker 8 (29:19):
What?

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Wow? And so then I was, well, Sam, I'm actually
looking up for you because you haven't gone yet. And
I didn't want Isaac.

Speaker 6 (29:26):
Actually I'd bequeath my turn to Sam. No, no, go ahead.

Speaker 10 (29:31):
I don't have much to head other than you guys
want me talking about Iowa football in twenty sixteen. No
you don't, so go ahead, Isaac, It's all yours, all right.
I don't remember much from that year.

Speaker 11 (29:42):
I got four quick things. So obviously the Cubs winning
the World Series, that was that year. But twenty sixteen
was also the summer of Kevin Durant's free agency and
the Hamptons and signing with Golden State and how it
set the NBA world on fire, and the official announcement,
as I recall, came on the morning of the fourth

(30:02):
of July. In twenty sixteen, As I recall, it was
also the year of the infamous Laramie Tunsul Bong incident
just before the NFL Draft. And also, do you guys
remember this phrase, Gia gia j eah? Anybody remember gia?

(30:26):
It was back then the phrase made popular by US
Olympic swimmer Ryan Lochte. Remember at the twenty sixteen Olympics,
he and his fellow swim bros claimed they were robbed
at gunpoint at a Brazilian gas station. But it turned
out that that story fell completely apart, and what it

(30:49):
actually happened was they had, in their celebratory stupor, trashed
said gas station and were held at gunpoint before they
before they get away so they could pay for the damages.
So that was the scandaled DuJour. Back then at the
twenty sixteen Olympics, Ryan Lockety and his Gia in Brazil.

Speaker 7 (31:11):
Yeah, I like a jaw, like a chaw.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah, I think yeah, I think seven. I think you're
right chiaw yeah, Jew yeah yeah. There was a lot
happening in the world of golf at twenty sixteen. And
I will piggyback off of Isaac's mentioning of the Olympic Games.
We had the dream team earlier of the twenty sixteen
squad that Jason mentioned now Ryan Lochtey. And it was

(31:37):
also the return of golf to the Olympic program in
twenty sixteen, as the gold medal was won by Justin Rose.
Great year for golf in twenty sixteen. Jordan Speith blew
the Masters, Danny Willett ended up winning it, Dustin Johnson
won at Oakmond. He had quite the showdown between Henrik
Stenson and Phil Micholson at Royal Troon, just playing magnificent

(31:59):
golf down the straight. Stinson ends up winning, but because
of the Olympics they had to move the PGA Championship
up a couple of weeks. Jimmy Walker ended up winning
that at Baltus Roll. It was a arrange the late event.
I will add this US wins the Ryder Cup in Minnesota,
a home Ryder Cup victory as they were able to

(32:19):
redeem themselves. They had lost previously at Glenn Eagles and
then they had actually lost the last time on home
turf at Medina where they blew a lead on Sunday,
so they got redemption. Patrick Reid and Rory McElroy going
head to head. It was a great scene, good year
for golf, really good year for golf, but maybe just
not up to the level because of how big those

(32:40):
other events ended up.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
Now the listeners don't know those because they can't see Dan.
But he didn't have any notes in front of him
that was off the top of his head. He's got
every single year for the last forty eight years committed
to memory. When it comes to the golf schedule, not.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Forty eight but seven fall in somewhere.

Speaker 7 (32:58):
Dan could do a golf recap from my nineteen fifty eight.

Speaker 6 (33:02):
Dan is the Steve Hartman of golf.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
Absolutely, it's funny you mentioned Justin Rose because I watched
an interview with Justin Rose and golf when he was
chipping and he was practicing, he had one thing in
his in his iPod, and it was this popular song
that hit the charts in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
Hello.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
Now Mancie's feeling this song. This is, of course Adele
the hit single Hello. I want to say. It was
off her third album, the name of It. I thought
it was a thunder. Trying to get Durant to reconsider ouch,
I will say this, I have one contention with a
lyric in this song. I don't know if you guys
have this contention. And when she says that that, I

(33:50):
keep calling, but you're not home. My question for Adele
is why don't you try his cell?

Speaker 6 (33:58):
It wouldn't have been as good of a song.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yes, but you know his cell at home.

Speaker 11 (34:06):
But you know what, if she adds cel, she can
rhyme it with you're putting me through hell And that's
another stanza. That's actually a good point.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
My name is Adele.

Speaker 7 (34:14):
But but wrestling hell and a cell.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Again, Like that song was about like an old love
and she went and she like made it big and
then she's coming back and she I think she wants
his love. I think that's what it's about. You know
what I love about Adele? And I really do like Adele.
I like that song where the albums, you know how
they were her? They were like her age was it

(34:41):
like when it was like twenty one and then it
was twenty five nineteen I think was another one. I
like that sort of thing because then the next one
you're like, oh wow. I feel like that's a like
a unique thing that it's tough to stick to. But
if you if it's good, like you should so the
next album. Like I just looked up Atdell's thirty. She
were to put out an album like it should be

(35:02):
thirty eight. I think that's awesome. I think that's cool.
I like Adele.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
I like Adele, but I don't love Adele.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
I wouldn't know that Joe by you just singing out
loud the entire song, well, yeah, thank.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Good, I put my no.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
She's a great singer and she's got great songs, but
I wouldn't pay to just watch her sing.

Speaker 6 (35:25):
Who would you pay to watch sing?

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Well?

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Like Shakita, but she's gonna dance and she's gonna perform,
and so Adele is just gonna say she has a
great voice.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
But so I just you got what I'm saying, Like
it's like I think you're great. I also maybe have
a bias, Like.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
I heard really horrible things about her while I was
at Universal Studio. Yeah, her, really awful things about her
when she would come and people would take her around.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
So maybe that's why I don't like her as much.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
Sounds like some good dirt.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
She just was not a nice person. She was not
a nice person.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Oh and she came frequently and the person that always
around was the same guy. Now I'm not gonna say
his name because I STI talk to him, so don't
want throw him under the bus. But he told me
he's like, she's just an awful person. Wow, So maybe
that's why I don't.

Speaker 7 (36:11):
Like her as much.

Speaker 10 (36:12):
Should meet her first, and then I don't know you
have I guess you have first hand knowledge, second hand.

Speaker 7 (36:18):
Knowledge, whatever.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Yeah, yeah, I mean what if.

Speaker 7 (36:21):
You met her and she was really nice to you.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
I think people are very telling with how you are
in the theme park and how you handle other workers.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
Sure, and that's what this person was talking about.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
I'll tell you why. I will be the worst person
on earth if you catch me at hour five of
a theme park, like, my goodness, just take me home.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Yeah, but when you're being driven around and you don't
have to wait in line, I.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Don't think you can't want to be here anymore. I
do not want to be here anymore. No, thank you.
A long long time ago I went to disney Land
and it was five o'clock and I said to the
to the uh, the girl that I was with at
the time pre marriage, So are we going? Are we
leaving now? She goes, no, we're here at all ten.

(37:03):
And I'm like, what it was? It was awful? It was,
it was atrocious. I could understand Adele's Adele's angst after
a day at a theme park that she's been to
apparently twenty times. Yep, dell again. Uh, there's twenty sixteen
in the nutshell. Don't NFL. We didn't get to the NFL.

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Speaker 2 (38:19):
I don't want to sound like get off my lawn
guy with Jerry Jones on our next topic. I feel
like I am, but I actually feel a little better
because I feel Dean Sanders is standing next to me
also yelling get off my lawn. It is the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. You like the Freddie
Freeman line.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
It's because I'll share with you what I shared with
Isaac Gaescher.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
It's actually very sweet story.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
There was a one of our Japanese tour guides after
a tour came up to us and said, so, a
Japanese guest has a gift for Freddy, and he gave
it to me and insisted that I give this to Freddy. Obviously,
like any gift, anything being sent to a player, it
goes through like a process. You can't just give them something.
And even if you add it to us, like it's

(39:00):
better if you actually just send it to the Dodgers,
it will go through the proper channels that way.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
But we weren't.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
We don't know what to do with it because they
wouldn't take it from us, even if we took it
to the front office, because it.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Should be sent, you know, like not delivered. And so
we opened it.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
And this gentleman just wanted to give Freddy Freeman a
shower matt so that he wouldn't slip in the shower.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
That's what the gift was.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
How sweet is yes? Yes? Where those things collect mold
and other germs. A germaphobe's worst friend is the bath mat.
I know it would save you from slipping, but sometimes
I think people would rather fall than be around all
of the You ever take the you know with the
suction things the worse.

Speaker 7 (39:42):
Yeah, he gets you really do.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
You have to like clean them every time you use them.

Speaker 7 (39:46):
You have to bleach scrub on him somehow.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
And and Freddy Freeman doesn't live far from a family
friend of ours, so I know where he lives. I
just don't think his shower probably needs the mat.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
No, it's because you must have hurt missed the story
when he slipped. He slipped in the shower, Yeah right, No,
but that happened at Dodger Stadium.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Oh is that Dodger stady? Okay, I thought it was
at home. Yeah, so way to go Dodger Stadium. Better
upgrade that, all right? Dion Sanders wants an upgrade in
attention and looks when he's talking about his players and
he's not talking about on the field. As Dion Sanders
had this message to his football team as they are

(40:28):
about to start class and Boulder in just a day
or so. Here's Dion saying this to his Buffaloes.

Speaker 8 (40:35):
We started school win win being tomorrow, no slides. If
I see you with I'm gonna send people to campus tomorrow.
If I see you with slides on campus, it's gonna
be a problem. If I see you with a hoodie
own in class or some headphones on in class, it's gonna.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Be a problem.

Speaker 8 (40:52):
If I see you sitting in the back of the
classroom is gonna be a problem. Do we understand that?
And if your online and you have online classes and
you don't have a shirt on or you got a
wife beat on them, you have some stupid ome.

Speaker 7 (41:05):
That cause the distraction.

Speaker 8 (41:07):
Are you walk around doing that online session?

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Is gonna be a problem. Wow, Dion Sanders laying the
lawn down to his players and I love it. And
I don't know if it's because again I'm being get
off my lawn guy, or I feel that there is
so much power given to the youth now in college sports,

(41:31):
specifically with NIL and the transfer portal being open. But
for Dion to not cater to every need and want
of an athlete and to say that you're a part
of this team, and you're a part of this team
even when you're outside the football building on this campus.
To be able to at least present yourself in a

(41:52):
respectable way, I think that's that's amazing. I went to
the University of Wisconsin, and you knew who was a
football player. You knew it. You know it because of
well their size, but also how they dressed, because they
had the gear. They let you know that they were
a football player. And there's there's this. It was just

(42:14):
you know when you're you were a college football player.
And I would have to guess that the same thing
would happen at the University of Colorado. And for Dion
to be like, Hey, if you're gonna be that, you're
gonna be respectful, You're gonna show our program, I am.
I am all for it.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
I could not agree more because especially in this day
and age right where it feels like players and young
athletes are they have so much power, they still need structure.
They still need someone out there to tell them I'm
in charge. I know you are making money and like
you are a star right now. I get all that,
but I'm still in charge and I'm going to provide

(42:47):
structure for you because you need that. And like everybody does,
everyone needs structure. If not, it gets out of hand.
And so that's what I like about it, because we
know Dean Sanders like likes to have fun, and we
know his style.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
I mean, like there's.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Nobody on this planet that can get away with ranking
your children besides Dion Sanders and publicly ranking your children
on social media.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
So like knowing that it's.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Just like he's doing this because he cares, and he's
providing the structure that young athletes absolutely need.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I'm reminded of someone who want said like, you don't
you don't rank your children, but everybody's got a favorite.
But I don't even know if that's true. I don't
think it's true. Okay, all right, so well maybe that's
suit Diana is. I just like the fact of because again,

(43:42):
and this is different, get off my lawn, guy. I
just like the fact again because I just feel that
football players get so much. There's advantages as opposed to
the student body. They're not the normal student. And for
Dion to be like, Okay, you may not be the
normal student, but you're at least going to be respectful.
You're not gonna wear you know, you're gonna wear a

(44:03):
shirt if you're on a zoom meeting or on a
Zoom class. Just something like that, just to show respect
to the school and the players. I get it. And
I'm a guy Manzi that wants shirts untucked at golf
clubs for sure. I hate the tucked in shirt rule.
But when you know, I took my son golfing and
we went to a to a club that's in the area.
I said, he gotta he gotta tuck in your shirt,

(44:23):
and he had a fit, and I kind of understand.
I'm like, all right, this is part of the whole process.
But so I'm even I'm even learning at my age
of what is and what isn't and what should happen.
But for deont to lay down the law, I think
it can only be positives.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
It is only positives.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
And again, it's just nice and refreshing to see that
because it's it's out of respect for everybody else because,
like you, you hit it right on the head. They
already have privileges and advantages by being on a football
team playing for Dion at Colorado, Like, they already.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
Get so many other things.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
So he's trying to keep their heads from getting bigger
because that's also his job, you know, as the coach,
and keeping that structure no slides. I hope he added
no crocs, okay, because you know how much I hate crocs.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
I hope he added that to the list of things they.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Can What about NFL crocs.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Those are no. No, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
My dad has a pair of crocs, and if I
let him, he would have them in every color. And
I'm the one that's like dad, no, no, okay no.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
So Iowa, Sam uh joins us. I know he wants
your anti croc as well.

Speaker 7 (45:34):
I'm very anti crocks.

Speaker 10 (45:35):
I just want to say that at least Coach Prime
is acknowledging that there is school to be attended, you know,
at the very least, you know, I don't know these days,
you don't even know some of these college football players
even going to class or what kind of school they're
actually consuming. So at least Coach Prime is like, hey,
school starts tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (45:51):
Better than one they're doing to Georgia.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
I'll tell you that you went to you went to Iowa.
I did, like Sam, yep, we're football players always in class?

Speaker 7 (46:00):
Well, you know, this was almost fifteen years ago.

Speaker 10 (46:02):
No, that's a good that's I had a couple of
classes with a few football players and men's basketball players.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
But were they always in class?

Speaker 7 (46:13):
I don't. I'll just say this.

Speaker 10 (46:14):
Online courses were not as prevalent as they are now
correct correct.

Speaker 7 (46:19):
So they probably were. They probably were there.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
I mean, I'm not saying that they're skipping classes. Okay,
they may have been, they may not have been. But
also if they weren't in class, they were probably given
some sort of advantage that the other students were not
given to to do their work a certain way. I
had a lecture where they gave away they said, we're
gonna have three pop quizzes in the lecture because you're
you're let alone your other side class was whatever. But

(46:44):
if you if you missed one of them, the highest
grade you can get is a C. If you miss
two of them, are going to fail the class. And
I know that there were players who did not attend
half of those pop quiz. Yeah, and there was so
certain arranged were made. Either it was under the table
or it was hey, i'm not going to be in class,

(47:05):
Oh okay, well then you can have this. And I
don't think that those arrangements were made for other students.
I get it. It's a different sort of deal. However,
for Dion to say, we want our football players to
be as much a part of the student body as
we can and to represent our football team and to
represent the team, because there are going to be kids
that are showing up in slides and aren't football players
and wearing headphones and doing their own thing. To have

(47:27):
all of that, I just I think is great.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
Absolutely. I was already a fan of Dan l I'm
more of a fan.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Jason Stewart loves how it puts the spotlight on what
people were to work or to school.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
Yeah, I think this we can do another hour on.
I think like work dress code and do you initially
judge people when they show up at work dress a
certain way? Now, this is all a caveat that we
work on radio, and I know the standards for how
we present ourselves at work are a little lower than
corporate America.

Speaker 7 (48:00):
But like I just literally, yeah, Daniel, I don't know
if he's true.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
We're all like I'm Dresasic suiting it up. Yes, looks
like he's.

Speaker 7 (48:08):
Gonna go take on Sweet James in court later today
he does.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
This is an exceptional This is a very well dressed
radio show right now. That's not always the case. But
dress code at work, I think it's like that. This
is a very old school thinking too. You know, look good,
work good, look good, perform well. But I think Dion's
main point here that I very much appreciate is when
you are outside of the facility, you're representing me and

(48:35):
you're representing the program, and I want you to look
a certain way. And the fact that he's going to
enforce that is very encouraging for me to hear. Maybe
all coaches have this conversation and it's just amplified because
Dion's always has a mic around him, But like, I
do appreciate that, and I'm glad that that still exists.
But yeah, we could do a whole thing on radio
dress code.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
He was specific, which was nice about it because that's
the thing, right, He's like, make sure you look presentable.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
His players could have been like, well, nobody's talking about
I'm wearing a shirt.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
No.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
He like was specific in things that he didn't want
to see from his players, and that was nice to
hear too. It wasn't just look presentable, don't embarrass me.
You're not gonna do this. You're not gonna do this,
and you're not gonna do this, Okay, So there's no questions.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
I guarantee there are other coaches who will cater to
their players because they want those players to stick around
and not hop in the transfer portal because they were
told they couldn't wear, you know, slides to class. And
I think that's it's also a representative of how finicky
things can be now in college with the ability to
move about. It's not about name, image and likeness Monty.

(49:39):
It's the ability for players to jump into that portal
and leave whenever they want to leave. And I think
that's something here that Dion is saying, all right, hey,
if you don't want to do it, you probably can leave.
But this is how we want to be represented. And
I think it's awesome.

Speaker 10 (49:53):
And Dan he has as a coach. He has the gravitas,
he has the name recognition, like I feel like he
can say this. He can be a discipline area and
about this because he's Dion. And other coaches, yeah, are
more catering and cowtowing to their players because you know,
they can't they can't quite message the way that Dion.

Speaker 7 (50:11):
You know, they just don't have that. They don't have
that moxie.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
I know. I just hope he's not a hypocrite and
allows cowboy hats to be worn to class because he
does rock one very well.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
He does.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
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