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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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You going to do that? Or we could talk some hoops? Right,
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we talked some college football after last night. Whatever do
you guys want to talk about? Oh? I know Micah Parsons.
So Micah Parsons is a Green Bay packer. And let
me just let me just give you a little insight
into my life. Right, I know a lot of people.
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That's inarguable. I think most people you get to our
age and you know a lot of people. Now, I
know a lot of people in sports and in entertainment.
None of this is new information, right, none of it
is new information. But I do know a lot of
people in sports. I do know a lot of people
that are influential in sports, especially in the sport of football.
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And so what happened was two days ago John Cood,
who works in State in radio, tweeted out Micah frickin' Parsons.
So people lost their mind and they came to me
because they think, well, you know everything. I'm not an
NFL insider. I don't purport to be. It didn't make
any sense to me at all, right, that the Cowboys
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wouldn't just sit tight and go, hey, if we can
come to an agreement, you play this year, then you
become a free agent next year knowing you can franchise tag.
That was my thoughts. I was wrong. So maybe we
need an explanation why, by many people's estimation, the best
defensive player in football was traded a week and a
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half before the season was going to begin. Here's Jerry Jones,
owner the Cowboys, explaining why the deal was made.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So we have the highest paid player in the NFL
at quarterback, and we made that commitment last year and
we're proud we made it and had everything to do
with this decision. Everything it is give us every opportunity
with Dak Press Good and Lamb and the base that
we've got to win now. This give gives us a
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better chance to be a better team than we have
been the last few several years since Michael has been here.
Not any negative on Michael, but we're trying to get better.
We're trying to stop the run and stay in the hunt.
I am very excited about, very excited beyond any consideration
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of a regret of the consideration that we got in
this trade and of the player. I'm very excited about that.
It is more in keeping within my mind what's in
the best interests of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So it's all that wording is really interesting, right, What
does it all mean? What does it all mean? First,
let me take it to Jeane Slater. She's the NFL
network reporter on the Cowboys. She's still a podcast on
the Cowboys as well, so she's dialed in there. She
had this to say on the Herd in regards to
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Michaeh Parsons and how he was how he was perceived
in in the Cowboys locker room.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
The truth of it is the building one here. Starting
about two years ago, we started hearing frustrations within the
locker room. And when I say frustrations, I don't want
to sit here and say that Micah Parsons is a
problem player. He certainly doesn't have problems off the field.
It's more of In talking to former coaches, one of
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the concerns was does he love football or he does
does he love the idea of being a football player
that gets the accolades, then gets the camera and the podcast.
And there would be frustration when they were in meeting
rooms and he would drift in and out. I would
describe it as just real he needs a coaching staff
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that's really going to dive in and invest in him.
We saw that with Dan Quinn. We saw Mike Zimmer
sort of buy in as much as he could, you know,
last year. But he's that type of player that just
requires a lot of buying and attention. And I think
it started to wear on the locker room. Let me
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change that. I know it were on the locker room
because in talking to previous coaching staffs in exit interviews,
there were a number of players who came to them
and said we have to do something about Mike.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
We have to do something about Micah was actually that
was actually uttered. So in some ways this is about culture,
which is honestly the same reason that the MAVs moved
off of move off to Luka Dongic. I think the
problem with it becoming about culture is that if he
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was this big of a problem, if his problems outweighed
his production, then why did you offer him a five
year contract worth forty million dollars per year. Again, we
can get into how everything went sideways. We can get
into the fact that Jerry tried to negotiate without the agent,
and it would allow me to speculate, Hey, I don't know,
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maybe maybe Jerry got ticked because Parsons was a bad
actor in this deal. And I don't mean that he
was a poor actor. I mean he's a bad actor
from the standpoint of he started the negotiations without his agent.
Then when the negotiations got came to a head, then
he ran back to his agents like, Hey, they're trying
to negotiate without me. I don't know. That's a possibility.
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What doesn't make sense about the Cowboys, about what Jane
Slater's saying and I'm not saying in any way that
what Jane Slayer's saying is not accurate. But the idea
that the Cowboys moving off of Micah Parsons makes them
a better team because he was killing their culture, because
he's not truly invested in being a great football player,
just being a Micaeh Parsons, big personality. That sounds great.
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Why ya from forty million dollars guaranteed per year? Why
did you come to an agreement that that? That hasn't
been answered for me, but I can tell you from
a Green Bay, Wisconsant perspective. Does the idea of him
needing a podcast, needing attention, wanted to get likes? Does
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that should that be troublesome? Yeah, it doesn't fit with
how the how the Packers role doesn't fit without the
Packers role. But the argument the Packers can make, whether
it works long term or not, is, hey, you're making
forty seven million a year, now, you don't need a podcast.
I do think a good young locker room, actually an
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older locker room is probably the best place for that
type of act, a younger locker room. It can go
either way. But the part of the argument that doesn't
make sense from the Cowboys perspective is I hear it.
I get it. He had a podcast he you know.
The messaging is, I don't know if he loves football
as much as just loves the benefits of being a
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football player.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
That is.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Those are keywords for coaches to hear, because you want
somebody who loves what they do, you love what you do,
then you don't have to worry about him quitting on
a fourth down play when all is for not football
guys like guys that want to play football that are
grinders that love playing football. Basketball, same thing, baseball, same
thing we talk about all the time. You have to
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have guys that love it and not everybody's gotta love it.
But at his position, at his price tag, he's gotta
love it. I get it. But I'm struggling with the
If he drove everybody so crazy, why did they offer
him such a big deal, then come to an agreement
on the deal. If you didn't want him and you
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wanted this to play out as such, you could have
moved him, or you could have gotten as much out
of him as you wanted this year. Make him play
under that contract. Fine, if he doesn't play, play hardball
instead you bailed. You got a really good player, you
got two picks. But it doesn't make sense in terms
of how they handled everything. I get it, Micah Parsons
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is this new generation. It's no different than in baseball,
guys that like to callac around the bass pass, guys
that handle things different. The old guard doesn't like it,
and eventually the new guard becomes the old guard, and
they don't like it either. And I don't know what
happens with his podcast or the podcast, or if he
tones it down a notch or tones it down to notches.
I don't know. What I do know is that the
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Cowboys up until very recently desperately wanted him to return,
and we're willing to make him the highest paid non
quarterback in the league. That to me, does not scream
of a guy who they're concerned about what he does
for their culture. Now, if you're if you're if Jerry
Jones is forget what he's saying. What he's thinking is
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this allows us to load up for next year. And
by you know, by paying Clark, you know, pennies in
comparison to what you would have had to pay Micah,
we save money, We get more draft picks up on talent.
That all sounds great, but don't tell me your aims
are to be competitive when you lose the best defensive
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player in the division, maybe the best defensive player in
the NFL, and you replace them with a good player
nine years in nothing and a guy who lacked the
pass rushing that Micah Parsons had.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
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Speaker 7 (12:11):
Months all right, So a big matchup this week is
gonna be nine LSU and number four Clemson. And the
big story at least in this you know, as they're
getting ready for the new season, is that LSU's offensive
line has not been the greatest. It's been the talk
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of town, and it's been struggling. And then they're arguably
gonna face the best defensive line maybe in Clemson, and
so I know this is a top ten matchup, which
maybe is a little scary to touch. But I am
taking Clemson in this first game between these two to win,
just outright.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah, Clemson as a as a dog, gonna win the game. Right,
that's the pick. Yes, Okay, I like it. I mean
I wouldn't pick it, but I like it.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
That's a good.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
But I do like it. Okay, I'm going to go
with a pick from a game. Again. I'm not a
big Oklahoma fan, right, I don't think they should have
left the Big twelve, and Brent Vennables has really struggled
and I think he'll always struggle with the mentality the
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Oklahoma fans expect double digit wins or else. When you're
now in a league where you're you're just kind of
a team, you're not middle of the road, you're incredibly accomplished,
but let's be honest. You're not in Alabama, you're not
viewed as Texas, you're not Georgia. You're somewhere notch below there.
They went out and got John Matier, plus they got
his offensive coordinator. They're taking on Illinois State. I mean
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this is a game of complete mismatch in terms of salaries.
Oh you has a loaded, loaded, loaded up on defensive line.
They should be absolutely nasty. They've won eighteen consecutive home openers.
I famously lost to TCU and five when they had
Adrian Peterson as the air running back. In your last
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Speaker 4 (14:29):
I think personally that the Buckeyes are gonna dog walk Texas.
I think it's not even gonna be close.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Dog walk Texas. Yeah, dog walk Texta are a point
a half favorite. So you're taking Ohio State to win
and to cover. Correct.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Yes, I think arch Manning is overrated.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Okay, I mean it's hard. I mean he's so well
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start with last night, the Big ten goes zero to
four against the spread. Now, there's lots of different ways
you can take it. As a Vegas expert, what does
that look like to you?
Speaker 8 (16:10):
Well, first of all, look at the opponents, right, Miami, Ohio, Buffalo, Ohio, Cincinnati.
You know, not exactly murderer's row. And then you kind
of look at the teams that were playing last night.
They were all kind of the teams that you expected
to be in the middle of the Big Ten. I
think Nebraska maybe had the highest expectations of all of them,
and so let's isolate that game specifically. Nebraska really struggled
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to move the ball, and I think that's going to
be kind of the vibe in the Big Ten this year.
I just don't think there are a lot of elite
playmakers outside of the Big Three. In fact, I think
you can pretty much rename the conference to the Big
three this year. It's Penn State, It's Ohio State, and
it's Oregon, and I just don't see a lot of
contenders outside of those Big three. I mean, you look
at Nebraska, Nebraka.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Had a lot of love.
Speaker 8 (16:49):
Right. You get Matt wool year three del Royola, you know,
kind of a sending maybe he can take that step forward.
This year. They struggled to protect Royola with max protect scheme,
like six seven guys in the protection scheme, and he
was still under pressure, struggling to find receivers downfield. They
gained less than five yards per play. They needed an
interception late and that's not a good Cincinnati team.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
So I do have concerns.
Speaker 8 (17:12):
About the Big Ten. Don't look at the win loss record, right,
it's the against the spread number. Are they exceeding expectations
so far? Four games in? It is early, but not
a great record for the Big Ten so far?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Fair enough? TEK got leap show here on Fox Sports
for Jared Smith is our guest, is our Fox Sports
radio betting analysts. Let's just get right after it, right,
Ohio State Texas? Who do you like?
Speaker 8 (17:38):
Yeah, this is a fascinating game, and we've seen some
money come in on Texas over the last twenty four
hours or so. The interesting part about Week one dog
These lines have been up for months, so the market
now the limits are pretty low, usually in the offseason.
So the sharp betters have had their chance to bet
Texas plus two and a half have had their chance
to bet Ohio State if they want. Is a slight
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favorite much the entire summer. And then what do we
see over the last twenty four hours when books start
to take larger wagers. Well, the larger bets start to
come in, and then you start to see where some
of the real action is and Texas is getting some
love here. I think when you look at this game
from a far right head coach coordinators for Ohio State,
that's going to be a problem. You get both coordinators gone,
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and I think that, to me is the biggest edge
in this game for Texas, where they have a little
more continuity quarterback. I would give you Ed starts Manning.
I know everyone wants to pretty much give him the
Heisman Trophy already. I'm not there yet, but I do
think he has an edge over Julian Saying. And then
you obviously look at the trenches, and I think that
is where Texas has a big edge in this game. Now,
don't get me wrong, Ohio State is very talented, but
they lost both tackles in the draft. They're shuffling around
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a ton of talent. They're right tackle Austin Several barely
played last year. In fact, he played guard for most
of last year. They've got another transfer coming in from Rice.
Their other starting tackle, Philip Daniels, came in from Minnesota,
so both tackle positions did question for Ohio State. That's
where Texas eats. They are fantastic rushing the passer. Colin
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Simmons was an All American last year. They have some
great linebackers coming back as well. Anthony Hill had over
one hundred tackles, almost seventeen for a lost and eight sacks.
And then the guys that Texas got up front, Travis
Shaw from UNC, Moron Watson from Syracuse, and Brevard from Purdue.
I mean these are like, you know, all big ten,
all true freshman type players that they were able to
get in the transfer portal. I think defensively, this is
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going to be an absolute slug fest. I give Texas
the edge. The line movement makes sense when I bet it,
and am I very excited to bet this game now
that it's a pick them. No, you missed the move
on Texas. But I do think they go into Columbus
and get a win revenge game two. Right, they lost
their last game against Ohio State in the Cotton Bowl
last year, so they've been thinking about this one for
a long time.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Jared, let's go to a couple of the big games
Clemson LSU.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
Yeah, I absolutely love this matchup, right, Just bet the
Tigers and you're gonna win. I think when you look
at the line movement, when you look at the line movement.
Clemson is starting to get a little bit more love
in the market than I would like. You know, we're
out to four and a half now. Everyone loves Clemson
this year, and I understand they've got the most returning
production in all of college football. Dabo's finally getting transfers in.
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How about that, He's finally adopting the transfer portal. What
a novel concept for a head coach in Division one
football in twenty twenty five. But when I look at LSU,
I do kind of like this roster. I mean, they
lost a lot defensively up front, but they brought in
Pyburn from Florida. They brought in Patrick Payton from Florida State.
They brought in Jamari Butler from the Braft. I mean, again,
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these are kind of all conference caliber players up front
on the defensive line. So I do think Clemson is
fantastic upfront as well. Maybe they have the best trench
both offense and defense in the country, But I think
LSU will be able to hang with them. The question
is ken they's very new, maybe inexperienced LSU receivers get
open against a very very good clumpson secondary. In fact,
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I would argue this is the best secondary in college football.
I think downs in Ohio State's the best overall player
perhaps on the defensive side in the second aary in
college football. But you've got Terrell and Hampton elite duo
with cornerback. I think Terrell might be an All American
this year. And then Khalil Barnes replaces the Mickens kid
who went to the draft. So I think you've got
a really good secondary for Clemson. LSU's receivers are intriguing.
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Chris Hilton returns he missed all of last year with
an injury. I think he gives them a little bit
of explosion that they were lacking last year. They bring
back their best receiver, Aaron Anderson, who led the team
in receiving yards last year. Nick Anderson, another Anderson transfers
in from Oklahoma, very intriguing prospect. Missed all of twenty
four with an injury, but in twenty twenty three at
twenty one yards per reception. So I'm fascinated by the
matchup ls u's receivers. I think Nuss Meyers a really
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good quarterback, especially in the SEC against this very good
Clemson secondary. I think whoever gets the better of that
matchup iLINK Clemson. But I think whoever gets the better
of that matchup will win this game. But I think
LSU is.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Very live here.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
I think for if this thing continues to stretch out
the five or maybe even six, I think you come
back on LSU before.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Saturday Convicts versus the Catholics. Notre Dame, Miami, Miami, big
time Carson Beck, big time quarterback transfer, same for you know,
Notre Dame has done this before with the quarterbacks. Who
do you like and why?
Speaker 8 (22:22):
Yeah, we're off the three now, so we're starting to
get some love on Notre Dame.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
I think the strength.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
Of Miami's team is their offensive line. We don't necessarily
think of that when we think Miami, right, we think
a little more flashy, a little more show and go.
But this is a Miami team, and Alex Mirabal, the
offensive line coach for Miami, deserves a ton of credit.
Four starters back for them, including they're all conference tackle myoga,
including they're all conference guard Cooper and they got this
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here Mark el Bell six nine three forty, who's going
to play the other tackle spot? McCoy the other returning
starter the Miami offensive line should be very good this year.
They should dominate a very bad acc in most of
their games. But this is the Notre Dame defense that
we know is very gap assignment sound. We saw it
in the playoff last year. I think they overachieved what
we expect the sal of their talent to be. The
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question for Notre Dame is they are replacing a lot
of really talented players, but also very experienced players. Mills,
Kaiser in the secondary, Morrison and Watch. Those guys are
all in the NFL. And they also replaced their coordinator,
al Golden. Chris Ash the new coordinator. The new defensive
coordinator for Notre Dame, Herban Meer, said in the offseason
that this was the coordinating higher of the entire offseason.
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I think he's a little biased because he obviously coached
at Ohio State. But I am interested to see what
Ash can do because I do think that there is
some really good talent here at Notre Dame. Tricky spot
early in the year, you're down in the humidity in Miami.
I think now that we're out to three, I think
now you're going to start to see some of the
Hurricanes love come in and you got to give credit
to their offensive coordinator Shannon Dawson.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
He took cam.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
Ward Zuo, star recruit from Incarnate Word to Washington State
one year at Miami number one pick. Now, the sum
of Carson Beck's parts, I think are important. I view
Beck as more of a distributor, not a playmaker. Car
Pat Moore a playmaker. He can make plays and kind
of run around the pock and do all these crazy things.
I think Carson Beck needs the sum of his parts
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to be better, and Miami lost a little bit of
talent there, especially at the receiver position. Restrepbo and George
are both gone. Isaiah Horton transferred to the BAMA.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I think Daniel's the kid.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
They got from LSU, is an absolute stud. I like
the back Fletcher. I think it's three. I like Miami Doug,
but I'll be honest. Of the three games this weekend,
this one feels the most toss upy, and I think
the weather down there Miami, as you know, can absolutely
play a Factorysi Ken.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
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It's the Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark
Dominic's up coming in about five minutes, so I think
I can answer this question pretty easily, right, how are
things in Green Bay? I mean, look, Green Bay, Wisconsin
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has trademarked. The Packers own the trademark for Titletown, USA,
thirteen titles. In ironic timing, my basketball team ran the
steps at Lambeau at six am today, I can tell
I cannot. I haven't been able to pull every Packer fan.
But what was missing for the Packers, and we talked
(26:03):
about it a bunch was a pass rush, and you
got one of the most dynamic pass rushers, if not
the most dynamic pass rusher in any conversation of it,
at twenty six years old, now playing for the Green
Bay Packers, and they gave up Frank Clark, who good
player nine years. Obviously he had some baggage when he
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left college. He hasn't had I don't believe he's had
any baggage in the pros. Respected guy, but not a
guy that strikes fear in the hearts of offensive coordinators
or quarterbacks. Parsons does. So, how are things in Green Bay?
They expect them to win a Super Bowl or get
to a Super Bowl? It was the okay, if we're
not going to make a move for go out and
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sign a wide receiver. They drafted a wide receiver in
the first round, first time they did that over twenty years.
And then they traded for the best defensive player in
football who's yet to truly reach his prime, and gave
him the biggest contract in the history of sport for
a nine quarter back. You know ed. Policy took over
as president of the team, and yesterday they had Mark
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Murphy who now works with us at Wisconsin. Green Bay
mark Murphy's retirement, so he was the He's the outgoing
president and Ed Policy, who's you know is his dad?
Carmen Policy used to run the San Francisco forty nine ers.
Ed's been in Green Bay for a long time. But
when he was asked about Brian Goodenkunst and he was
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asked about the coaching staff, he has said there haven't
been extensions given. Well, now everybody you know good and Cunst.
I don't know if that's the motivator or the fact
that Parsons was out there. He's also represented by Mogetto,
who's the same agent who represents Shordan Love. However it
came to be, Yeah, there's pressure, but there's also just
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expectation because they got a lot of talent. Now they
got an elite, elite pass rusher. I'll be interested to
hear what Mark Dominic thinks of this deal, of how
it came to be. What do we not know about
Micah Parsons that we're knowing now and does that affect
how we should look at him as a player. Let's
welcome in Mark Dominic. We mentioned former Gentlemen manager Tampay Buccaneers.
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When you when somebody texted you or you saw on
social media, or maybe you saw on TV that Micah
Parsons was dealt, you know, ten days for the regular
season or a week really before some of the regular
season kicks off. What was your immediate reaction.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
It was, you know, it was surprised, right. I really
felt like the Cowboys were going to try to find
a way to hold on to them. But certainly the
value for where Micah is was nowhere near where the
Cowboys wanted to go. And I'm sure you know, knowing
his agent, who's one of the top agents in the NFL,
he had a good pulse of what other clubs were considering,
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even though you legally can't know that. And I think
that's what made this thing hold up. And you know,
when I go back and look at this trade from
the lens of the Packers, it's hard not to like, right.
I mean, they tried Lucas van Ness in the first
round that didn't work out. Now they know they're getting
Micah Parsons. There is something with Micah Parsons that maybe
the Cowboys didn't love, maybe something off the field or
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things like that. But two things that really stand up
to me, Doug. Number one, I think it's the right
move for the for where the Green Bay Packers are
right now. I think that they're really trying to say, hey,
we can go get this right now. We think that
we can catch the Detroit Liones, but catch the NFC
as well, and you know, giving up two ones Kny
Clark's going to be a loss. But Carl Brooks is
a player that people don't know who he is unless
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you're a Packer's fay. He's done a really good job,
but he's had the opportunity inside. The other thing that
says for the Cowboys is, you know their former first
round Thick Smith, Mozzie Smith. It obviously hasn't worked out,
and that's why they had to make Kenny Clark part
of the deal.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Okay, let's get to the off the field stuff. I
mean i'd heard some of it and usually was wrapped
around you know, he's always in a podcast, he's tweeting something,
he's in the middle of something. But if they were
really bothered by it, why they offer him such a
big contract before, you know, before this whole thing blew up.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Yeah, I think it's good. You know, all the adage
that you know, I been around before. As you know,
do guys like football do they love football or do
they live football? Right? And I know that sounds a
little bit corner, but there's a lot of guys out
there that really likes football but don't love it, and
there's a lot of guys that love it that don't
live it. I think Micah Parsons is completely blessed in
terms of his athleticism, but I do think the Cowboys
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feel like he loves football now and lives football. And
when you're going to just obliterate the market the way
that that just happened, you got to make sure that
every piece of every ounce of his body is exactly
what you want to be. And maybe the Cowboys just
couldn't get themselves there. Maybe they didn't want to be
the people that would, you know, change the market overnight
at that position. I mean, look right now, I mean
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it's like MaTx Crosby just did a deal a couple
months ago, and people like, wow, now that deal looks sad.
It's just it's it's such a huge move by the
Packers financially too, that have so much ramifications for so
many players and so many teams to deal with the
next great pass rusher, and how you're going to try
to Trump Micah Parsons, So you know, I felt like
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there was whispers too behind the scenes that you know, again,
I think he loved it. I don't know if he
lived it.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Okay, what should expectations be in Green Bay?
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Yeah, I've said all along. I really thought that the
factors who closed the gap or could close the gap
on the Detroit Lions. And I felt like, you know,
even one of those teams could represent in the NFC
for this Bowl. And this just makes you feel that
much more even confident that the Packers have that ability,
because when you look up and down the roster, you know,
the one thing that I think, like I said, with
the Lucas vns like him, you know, playing but not
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really becoming the pass rushers, they've been looking for the
outside impact player. They now have that player. And you know,
I think that that was along with this offense. I
think they're gonna be able to do offensively. I love
their offensive line, what they've done there. They've got the
back end covered up really good. I think Evan Williams
is a sleeper safety that people will get to know better. Obviously,
David mckinnie's a great player. I just think that they've
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really been focused on their offseason and how they wanted
to handle this. You know, they went out and got
Nate Hobbs and corner, and they got Aaron Banks offensive line,
and I think this team's ready to compete. I see
them right there with the Detroit Lions, and maybe this
made them one step closer because they just got a
guard that's probably going to get them the ball back
on offense, you know, two or three more times.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
A game, no, no question. Okay, So let's look at
the rest of the league, most of these other Just
what what'd you think about the deal that the Bengals
pulled off? Right? Kind of obviously he's at a different play.
Alexander's at a different point in his career than Michael Parsons.
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Parsons only twenty six years old, still coming into his prime.
The thought is that maybe he's going out of his
prime but only not even extent and simply kind of
double your money for a year. What do you think
about what the Bengals did?
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Well, I think it already looks good, right, It already
seems like the Bengals did the right thing now, you know,
moving his salary up great. You know, I think that's
it's a win for Trey Hendrickson. He got at least,
you know, what is a fourteen to fifteen million dollar
raise this season. So now I was going to get to,
you know, at least the right vetter around thirty million dollars.
You know that Micah Parson's sitting at forty eight or
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forty seven, excuse me, just certainly seems eclipse. And so,
you know, I think it's a win for both and
that one, I think it's fair for the Bengals to
get him to that in mark, but it also allows
Trey to go be free agent next year and say, hey, look,
you know, I'm I'm TJ. Watt. I've got maybe one,
you know, three four more years in me wants to
prove and if you could put together anything near what
he did, you know over the last three years, two years,
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you know, it's gonna be hard to look at Trey Hendrickson,
you know, back to back seventeen and a half sax
seasons that he can't go command of an a bigger number.
So I'm glad it worked out for the Bengals. I'm
excited to see what that team looks like this this fall.
But you know, in the end, it looks like the
Bengals already got the better deal by based off this
Mica Parsons deal.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, I think it's that's a no brainer. I mean
it's incredible the deal that they end up they end
up getting. Let me circle back to Parsons, when would
you play him if you're if you're the Packers, he
saigned a huge deal, but you know, hasn't done anything
in pads yet and we're getting close to game time.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah, I'm sure Coach Hafley, his defensive coordinators, you know,
chomping at the bit to find out a way to
get him in. You've got to think on third down,
you know, when it's you know, third and twelve, third
and eight, third and fourteen, you know that, hey, look
put my can just say just go go go be
an athlete. I think you're going to see a small package,
right I think week one, uh maybe you know, twenty
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to twenty five plays and I think you'll just say,
slowly go up five to ten plays per game until
he's exactly where they want to rotate him through and
keep him fresh for the whole game. So I still
think you're going to see maybe fifteen to twenty. But
he's going to definitely play Week one for the Packers.
You don't make this move. You know, he's an athlete.
You know he's going to be in shape, and you
just you know, you you're excited to have I mean,
this guy's going to create an impact, and you know
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it's going to hurt Dallas. They're going to be counting
on a lot of guys that they're hoping, like Overshown
or Sam Williams, guys that they're hoping can kind of
step up somewhat. Well. They know that, as Jerry Jones said,
they'll be better against the run.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I guess, did you what was your reaction to what
the Browns did in Trady Kenny Pickett and then having
the rookie quarterbacks be the number two and number three?
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Not surprised? I mean, you know, I'm actually you know,
for the for the Browns, you know, they should be
thankful that it's said what happened to Ed o'connelly. Just
can't seem to stay healthy, which is broken, you know,
some are broken worrist and now and then allows Kenny
Pickett to be at another team, but the Browns at
least get something in return for Kenny Pickett. I think
it makes for a perfect room. You didn't have too
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many quarterbacks this where you don't have four quarterbacks sitting around.
You got two young guys learning behind Joe Flacco watching him.
I think it's a win win for everybody. Kenny Pickett
now steps into a spot where it's Gino Smith, and
if something happens to Gino, he's got a chance to play.
And I think that's all it can Picker could ask
for at this point with the opportunities he's been given
in the NFL. So you know, I think it's good
for the Browns to clean up the room, open up
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a roster spot, good for the Browns to get a
draft choice. Regardless of whatever it was, it's still a
draft selection. And good for the Raiders because they need
somebody that's got game experience behind Geno Smith, who's not
very young.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
The Miami Dolphins are an interesting team. There's lots of
talk of some dysfunction there. You know, obviously Tyreek Kills
a supreme talent, but you know, how how do they
fit him back in the fold After some of the
things he said last offseason, It just feels like the
Mike mean, Daniel thing has just kind of hit a
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speed bump and slowed him down. And it's not the
same as you know two years ago or even going
into last year. Why is that?
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Yeah, I think some of the luster wore off. I
think that you know, there's been lots and lots of reports,
like you're talking about where you know, who's running the
show or how they're running the show. And you know,
I'm sure that mister Ross, who's genuinely been very impatient,
is probably right at that bubble where he's like, hey, look,
you got to be in the playoffs this year, We're
going to make changes again. And then you know mister
Ross is he just doesn't you know, he's very quick
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to pull the trigger on people. And so for coach,
I think he's got to come out and they've got
to have a great start to their season and be
able to show that, you know, they still have the
magic on offense, the explosive players, all the things that
you know you want to see. It's I don't I
think it's maybe a little hyped in terms of how
bad it is. Remember, this team gets to start with
the Colts, they play a Patriots team that's you know, uh,
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still in the rebuilding phase before they go to the
Buffalo Bills and they play the Jets and the Panthers.
So they've got four games here that I look at
and say, if they're four and one, you know it
was gonna be quiet. Even though those are games, I
think they should be favored in all four of those games. Sure,
they still the Cleveland Browns, Atlanta Valkris, So they've got
games in here where they can win. So I'm not
writing this team off as it's a big disaster, but
I do think they've got to get to ten wins
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or I don't think Mike makes it crazy.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
You know, you know a team we have not brought up.
This is weird. We have not discussed the entire offseason
the Houston Texans. And I bring it up because, hey,
two years ago, they were what the Commanders were last year. Right,
you have a bright young coach, you have a talented
young quarterback who's now going into year three. But something
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happened with them last year where there seemed to be
regression at quarterback and it didn't seem to be the
same team. And again it's a team we just have
not discussed at all. Where are the Houston Texans heading
into this season.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I think in a good shape. You know, they're still
playing a vision that they should you know, besides where
Jacksonville ends up, they should be in pretty good shape.
I mean again, the offensive line right now is a
little concerning for me based off Tunsel not being there
and what that means for them, you know, throughout the
entire season. But when you look at you know, Nick Chubb,
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you know, I still think he's got it in him.
You think about Nico Collins and what you know, he's
a wide receiver one just and now he's got a
chance to really prove it. I like Jaden Higgins, our
second round pick. I think he's going to be a
really good player for them. I think this team's good.
I think there are ten type of win season. But
I just think that I don't feel like they've vastly improved.
I think they just kind of, you know, held held
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the line, I guess is the best way to say it.
You know, they didn't really have a lot of collateral
to go do stuff in the draft this year, and
so when I look at the team in general, I
say it's a good team. Is it a playoff team.
I think so are they one and done in the playoffs?
You know, I know it's you know, we haven't started
week one, but you know, I just think that as
you watch the season unfold, uh, it's going to be
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I think hard for them to get over ten wins,
just based off of some of the opponents they play where.
I think that they even though they play in the
South and they play in the South, I think that
they're not quite as easily victor as they have been
in the past. I mean, you start off with the Rams,
We're going to learn a lot about them right off
the back against that Rams defense to see what this
offensively looks like.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Mark Dominic joining us here. Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Eagles open up with the Cowboys game. Talk
about open up that feels like one that they should
be confident in. But what are reports out of the
Eagles for their new coordinators.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Sounds like everything's been really good just listening to, you know,
kind of reading the tiles more or less. You know,
beat requires aren't an't going to let anything go by
that they're uncomfortable with, but it sure feels like they
feel very good about where Kevin is coach Kevin on
the offensive side, and obviously Nathaniel has been around for
a long time, and I think that there's a lot
of comfort with what he can do and what he'll
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do with this defense. So I think they're probably feeling
very good about where they sit. Look, it's about the players.
It's about putting Jalen Hurts in an opportunity to make plays.
But don't put the whole game on Jalen Hurts hiss shoulders.
You know he can step up in the big games,
but there's times where you know you've got to just
make it easy for Jalen in my opinion just watching
the tape, and as long as they don't over try
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to make him misster playmaker every snap, which they shouldn't.
They've got to obviously take one Barkley back there for
a reason, but I think that they're just going to
ride take one again, and I think that because of that,
it makes a lot easier to the play caller. It's
hard to boo a play caller when he turns around
and hands the ball to take one Barkley.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yes, I would, I tend to agree there. Danny Dimes
starting quarterback at Indy, You mentioned not high expectations for Indy,
but does just is the way they're doing things bringing
Richardson off the bench. Does that make sense to you?
Speaker 4 (41:18):
It's hard, you know, I don't disagree with it, you know,
I think that you know, it's one of those ones
where Danny dimes. You know, it's great for Tyler Warren fans.
If you drafted Tyler Warren, you're gonna be really happy
to have Daniel Jones. If you have Alex Pearson trying
to throw the ball down the field, that's not going
to be a great thing, right, That's not what he does.
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He likes to dump the ball off and do the
high percentage passing. That all being said, Chris Ballard's you know,
been a gym a lot longer than I was a GM.
But every year he's basically had a different starting quarterback
every year he's been the GM of the Colts. That's
incredible to say that a completely different whether it's Philip
Rivers or Matt Ryan, or whether Andrew Luck or Jacoby Brissette.
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You know, it's Richardson now Daniel Jones. It's been amazing,
you know, and that's hard to find any type of
continuity with a football team when you always have a
brand new quarterback under center for the next season, and
I think they're in the same spot where, you know,
I hope for Daniel Jones, but I just feel like
I think defensive quarterors kind of know Daniel Jones. They
know he's going to throw the ball. He's not going
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to take shots down the field. That's just not his personality.
And I think you're just going to try to limit
Josh downs, and you're gonna certainly limit Alex Pierce. But
the big thing is taken away the underneath, taking away
Tyler Warren, trying to take away Taylor catching the ball
of the backfield. That'll be the big thing, and that's
what he loves to do. So I think it's going
to be easier for defensive quarters to handle him than
it would be even a Richardson, who, again I don't
think is a starting quarterback, but at least you had
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to respect the running in the athlete that.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Richardson who is Mark Dominick, twenty years in the NFL
for an office of scouting. Of course, you managers of
Tampa Bay Buccaneers joined us every week great insight. Mark,
thanks so much for joining us. We'll talk next week.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Talk next week. Sounds good.