September 1, 2025 • 56 mins
On a Monday edition of the The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Dan and Monse in for Doug as they discuss Arch Manning and the way his career as a starter at Texas started.
Dan and Monse talk about the crop of second-year quarterbacks in the NFL before they get into the most recent installment of "Love AND Hate".
Dan and Monse welcome FOX Sports college football analyst RJ Young onto the show to recep an exciting college football weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You know, I was ready to show off my new
hat today. I know it's difficult in an audio medium. Well,
you'll see video of us as well. And then Monty
comes dressed up on a Labor Day wearing a dress.
The hair is done, my hat takes second fiddle.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You know, I appreciate the compliments. I did wash my hair,
so you're right. I did dress up, I washed my hair.
I'm excited to be here. I wish we had some
veggie dogs and veggie burgers.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Nothing says Labor Day like a nice vegetable pack hot dog.
But it's your great summer.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Delicious, delicious, delicious.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I'm the only thing I need.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I do think that the Labor Day cookout gets the
bronze of the Memorial Day Fourth of July cookouts that
you have. Yes, now we kind of move already the
fall stuff is out and football is here. NFL week one,
we can start officially talking about the games that are
coming up on Sunday. And now we have Week one
of the college football season, Manzie. That is almost in
the rearview mirror except for a game tonight where Bill
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Belichick makes his debut as the North Carolina head coach
against TCU. But other than that, Week one, all in
the books for college.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
All in the books.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Your team, defending national champion out there proving that they
should have probably been preseason ranking number one.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I think they made a good statement.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
They made a statement. Absolutely that was not a great game,
but they won. I mean, I'm not gonna lie. There's
no way. You sat there and you were like, this
is such a fun guy.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I had wondered what it was like for fans, and
I think I knew the answer. That didn't have a
dog in the fight, correct, because it was a hyped game.
One versus two, one versus three, depending on which pole
you live by the coaches poul, which is the one
I think is the least popular. More people go by
the eight people, but that the coaches poll had at
one versus two. So let's do one versus two. For
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the sake of this argument, I was invested as an
Ohio State fan, and I know Texas fans were invested
as they were fans, But I couldn't help think that
the general public, like yourself, that didn't have a dog
in the fight, was saying, this is how ime kicking
off my college football season.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
A little bit. I woke up at nine am.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
For this, Yes, litt bit, Yes on the on the
left coast.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Yes on the West coast, definitely.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And this was another part of the drama of that
game because of the Fox big noon kickoff and Fox
was there, and there's been some controversy at least in
Ohio State's stratosphere of them because they are such a
marquee brand being the top team for Fox to have
all of their games put at noon Eastern time. Because
of the big noon kickoff lead in Ohio State had
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wanted to switch the game to a night game. Texas said, no, well,
we'll play it on Saturday. We'll play it early on Fox,
and that's what ended up happening, and then you had
a game that ends up fourteen to seven Ohio State wins.
But truly, Manzi, for as much as you would think
it would be about the defending national champions. It had
nothing to do with the defending national champions.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Oh, absolutely nothing to do The story was the Manning,
the other the next.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And he is, and he is. He's truly, aside from
Bill Belichick, the only story that has garnered any interest
in the preseason leading up to it. We had a
game last night that will dive into of Notre Dame
and Miami and Carson Beck who was at a Marquee
School of Georgia and transfers and gets his first start
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with the Miami Hurricanes. That doesn't even come close to
the level of intrigue. Carson Beck was dating one of
the Cavender twins. Yeah, now they're not anymore. They're not together.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Anymore, slight, Thank you for the update.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And that didn't even rise to the level of what
arch Manning has been to college football. Arch Manning didn't
have one hundred yards passing until the fourth quarter of
their game against Ohio State on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
He didn't have a pass more than ten yards until
the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
In the air seventeen to thirty one hundred and seventy yards,
the one touchdown late and an interception that was not
a good interception. This is Arch Manning talking about his
own performance in his first start is the Texas quarterback
on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Yeah, it didn't start fast enough. Took a whole half
for us to kind of even get the ball down
the field. So that starts with me. Get back to
square one and then get back Monday and go prepare
for Santase State. Yeah, ultimately not good enough. Obviously you
don't want to start off season zero to one. They're
a good team. But I thought we beat ourselves a lot,
and that starts with me and I got to play
better for us to win. Can't wait till the second
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half to kind of get things going.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
That's the message from Arch the player, which sounds very
much like a Manning esque Manning esque that. By the way,
the comments that you're hearing from March as well are
the only comments that you're gonna hear that are grounded.
We're gonna hear from Sarka just a second as well.
But everything outside all of the noise about Arch Manning
was focused on the game on Saturday was truly negative.
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And Monzi, I am not even though the team that
I was rooting for beat Texas I am all in
on arch Manning. I am completely In fact, I would
double my bet right now with better odds as he
has fallen out of the leading spot for the Heisman.
According to Las Vegas, he is no longer John Mattira
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is now your odds on leader player with the shortest
odds of winning the Heisman. Arches dropped down to sixteen
to one. If I was a betting man, Manzi, I
am moving all in on that. I Am not going
to take one bad performance in an opening game against
the defending national champions with a brand new defensive coordinator
and still loads of talent on defense that came back
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from that national championship team a year ago, and hold
it against arch Manning, especially for what I saw in
the fourth quarter, which is what you alluded to with
the passing yards that he had downfield. Take your shots
now if you want on Arch Manning, because this is
going to be the only time we're going to be
able to do it.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah. I a couple of things with this.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I very very logical of you, as an Ohio State
fan to not hit the panic button, but the patient's button,
which I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I'm hit the patient's button.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Here guys, like this was against the defendant national champion
on their territory where we have seen very little of
Arch Manning.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I feel I agree.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
With you that the Manning family would not put their
son in this position if they didn't think he was
capable of it. Even that answer himself. They have literally
trained him. You are the quarterback, you take the responsibility
when it goes bad.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
But in reality, he never got in a rhythm.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Give that up to Ohio, Matt Patricia, give it up
to whoever you want.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
They never got in a rhythm all even you.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Could argue in the fourth quarter, but like that started
the second half, Arch Manning took them downfield with his legs.
He still didn't throw the ball. They still didn't let
him get in a rhythm. Ohio did not get in
a rhythm. Give it up to Texas punter. There was
a couple of kicks that was making the buck guys
not be able to get in a rhythm.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
You never got in a rhythm in the first half.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, that's why I was. It was kind of a
boring game when you don't have a dog in the fight.
No one got in a rhythm. There wasn't a lot
of scoring and by the end of it, I agree
with you. I don't Arch Manning did not look good,
but I'm not hitting the panic button.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I feel that people are wanting to cash in their
chips now, and if they aren't a Manning fan or
not a Manning family fan, that they'll take this opportunity
to tell you I told you so. And I'm fully
aware of that, Manzi. I've also said that I thought
that there was a chance if the Saint said the
first overall pick next year, that Arch would declare for
the draft. And I think that there are people are saying, see,
look right now, he's not ready for the NFL. We're
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talking four quarters in right.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
No, because that's they think that's a victory for them.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yes that they think.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
That's a victory for them.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And it's like, come on, y'all, four quarters in like
you in enemy territory, like the first time a season.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Oh, like, what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Nerves could be nerves are okay, this is normal, This
is normal. It's there's no reason, but people just want
to take their own personal victory lap.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Right now. Let's see where we are in a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Let's hear what Steve Sarkizian, Arch's head coach, had to
say after the loss on Saturday about his quarterback.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
The expectations were out of control on the outside. But
I'd say, let's finish the book before we before we
judge it right. This is this is one chapter and
we got a long season to go play. The growth
throughout the game for Arch was was really encouraging for me.
We're we're gonna be fine. Like I said, we got
work to do as a team and as an offense.
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But ultimately, like I'm getting on the plane knowing we're
gonna be a good football team. And so, hey, we
didn't win, didnight. That's a life of a competitor. We
went for it in a tough place against a good team.
But we'll get we'll get back on the horse and
we'll play good football this season.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I think that his use of books was amazing, because well,
I only listen to books now reading and just very
very difficult. I used an album as how I looked
at Arch manning for this year. This is the first
song on an album. Now, granted you want.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
An intro song to.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It was just the intro to it. This for those
of us who had CDs. This was track one, right,
I want we know the hits are track two, track three,
track four. That's what's coming up. And on a great album,
you could listen to song after song after song. This
was track one on arch Manning's album, and I just
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feel everybody is now taking a victory lap. We don't
know the type of quarterback he's going to be. We
don't know if arch Manning is going to be more
like Peyton, more like Eli, or more like his grandpa,
who he's named after. The way that he ran the football,
he seems more like Archie than he does of Eli
or Peyton. By the way, Eli threw tons of interceptions,
would lead the league in the NFL in interceptions. You
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know why because he also didn't have a conscience that
had the confidence enough that I'm gonna make these throws.
I've felt Eli Manning had made Odell Beckham who he
is because there were eighty percent of the quarterbacks of
the NFL that would never make the throws that Eli
would be willing to make. And then you have Peyton
who was able to dissect defenses through him being basically
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a coach on the field and ends up winning two
Super Bowl titles. They are all these different ways to
go because you have one weekend in the spotlight against
the defending national champions, against the new defensive coordinator. And
by the way, Arch could play this year, Arch could
play next year, and as crazy as it sounds, could
play the next year after that if you wanted to
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before going to the National Football League. That's what's ahead
for Arch Manning. It's not just one game, and I
feel we need to pump the brakes. And if you're
like me by now, why you're stocked now when it
dipped after this game, because it's never ever going to
be as low as it was after Saturday's performance.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
You know you've.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Convinced me I'm gonna go a place a bed on
this heisman because you're right. By the third quarter, he
had dropped in the third quarter, had dropped from favorite
to fourth or fifth in the middle of the game.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
You're so right, because.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
When I listen to an album, you know, I skip
the first track usually a lot of times, and I
have no regrets.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
I don't even think about it.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
We are not even going to think about this game
come a couple of weeks and months from now, because
I'm totally with you, Dan, it will be a footnote.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
I remember that one game. I would start how funny,
oh funny.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Even though the score was seven to fourteen, it wasn't
even a blowout.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
It was seven to fourteen.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
In spots where they were stopped at the goal line twice. Yes,
so there were opportunities for Texas to win this game
when you look back at what happens. When you look
back at Arch Manning's career. By the way, a lot
of people will say it's because of the name on
his back.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Oh absolutely it.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
By the way, it is because you want to know why.
Because in the National Football League, when you're looking at players,
and even in college football, there is nothing more random
than an eighteen to twenty two year old kid. And
if you can have any information or any intel that
guess what, something may not be as random because they
come from a certain pedigree, they come from a certain family.
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You're gonna take that and that is going to be
a benefit to you. So yeah, so there is some
stock in the Manning name. It's not that we'rely talking
about him because his last name is Manning. No, that's
not it. We're talking about him because of how great
the Manning players have been previously, and he has lived
up to the expectations up to this point. And if
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you want to jump ship now because he didn't reach
your expectations in week one, then that's on you, because
I don't think that there's any reason to jump ship
on Arch Manning right now.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
And you know into what you're saying here, it's like you,
the name Manning is the reason why people are being
patient like us, and at the same time why people
are trying to take a victory lap. It's the same
reason you're trying to take a victory lap because his
name is Arch Manning.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
If his name was Caleb Johnson, you would not be saying, oh,
I was right, I was right. I told you all.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
It goes both ways that you want to be critical,
extra critical because he's a Manning while some of us
are being patient and telling you Rex it was game
one because of they're both they both are because he's
a Manning.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Can I ask you this question if you were to
say Arch Manning is more of a story because of
A he's great, or would it be B he's not great?
What do you think what is the bigger story with.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Arch Manning that he's great.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Jason Stewart and I had that sort of dilemma. I
agreed with you, you think the bigger stories if Arch
isn't great, I do.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
I think that'll be the more interesting story. It was
the the ass respect of Saturday that I was most
rooting for him to do what he did because it
will almost kind of force our industry to maybe rethink
the way it presents itself. Right, Dan, you brought up
this weeks ago, that even months ago, that the Saints
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might likely tank to take Arch manning next spring. I've
heard similar things said matter of factly by people in
our industry, not scouts, not people to do draft projections,
but just radio hosts, debate hosts. And I kept saying,
in my mind, what has Arch done in college to
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demand that kind of respect that he is the de
facto number one pick in the draft next season? And
the answers to me were, weren't there? So Saturday, in
a lot of ways kind of confirmed to me that were.
Why was everyone speaking so matter of factly about this
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about this kid? It was not only unfair to him,
and I think the last time you guys filled in,
we were reacting to his grandpa's comments and that magazine,
and I think his grandpa was attempting to kind of
decrease the amount of hype for this kid, and looking back,
I think that that was a smart play. So anyways,
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the bigger story to me, because of who I am,
because I do content for a living, is that he fails,
and then I want to see everybody apologize for their stance.
For matter of fact, he's saying that he's the number
one pick next spring. How do we know what proof
has he given us that he warrants them?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Because I think that the bar that he has to
reach again with the Manning name and who he is
and what that family has done, gives you at least
some information that other quarterbacks don't know. And it's no
disrespect to cam Ward. It's no disrespect to Caleb Williams.
There isn't the the family tree of success. Now he
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may not be as good as Eli or Peyton, but
at least you know that there is something there and
that there is something to build on, which I feel
what you're drafting twenty one and twenty two year old
kids is the part of the game. As it is,
there is such a risk, so much more in the
NBA because kids are even younger at that point. But
anything that you can take that is given and not
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an unknown is a huge advantage over anybody else, especially
at the quarterback position.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah, this isn't like a one off family member that
was that had successes at the quarterback position in the NFL.
It's multiple family members. One of arguably the best in
Peyton Manning. You could say, and I guess I am
trusting that they know what they've seen since he was
a little kid growing up to want to be this,
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that they wouldn't put him in this position if they.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Didn't think he had it in him. I just I
have to believe that, and that's where it comes. And
even though I hear.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
What you're saying, Jason, if he was not good, if
he was quote unquote a failure, that would be the
bigger story, but for a shorter amount of time. If
he is good, then this story will last for years
going into the NFL. Him failing would be only so
long and then we'd stop talking about it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
As crazy as it sounds, this may sound ridiculous, but
I mentioned cam Ward. If arch Manning was in last
year's draft, he would have been the first overall pick. Yeah,
he would have gone ahead of cam Ward. I mean,
as as crazy as that sounds, and that's to no
fault of Arch Manning. But I just embedding on everything
that we know. The real heat actually probably comes on
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Steve Sarkisian because now you've had Queen Ewers there, who
was thought to be the uber prospect, the highest rated
perfect prospect, goes to Texas, doesn't necessarily stay healthy and
ends up being a late round pick of the Miami Dolphins.
And now you've got Arch Manning from the Manning Tree
coming in and if he doesn't turn into the quarterback
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that I think he's going to be, I think that's
such an indictment on Steve Sarkisian. Maybe that's why quarterbacks
are now going to Ohio State to play under Ryan Day,
to play under these guys and seeing how some of
the successes is going, because that would be now two
top quarterbacks that Texas hasn't been able to cash in
on and then translate to the next level. I think
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there's pressure on Steve Sarkisian to make sure that Arch works.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I think few people are saying that yes, not yet,
not yet, not yet.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Right now, it's Manning.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
It's all about Art. And by the way, if he
throws for five touchdowns against Oklahoma and the Cotton Bowl
in early October, this will be a distant memory. This
will be long gone and we'll talk about Arch's arrival
to your point. Hitter off at Manzi Blano's He Got
Me at Dan Byron Fox. Jason Stewart is here at
Jason Stewart Chris Profetar technical producer.
Speaker 8 (18:52):
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Speaker 2 (18:59):
I'm not putting in a bad spot. It's just I'm
just gonna say it. I just asked Monzi, you know
who Tony Robbins is, and Monzi cause is that the
guy from P ninety X? And then I didn't know
the guy for P ninety x's name, so I had
to look it up. That's Tony Horton's I'm talking about
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motivational speaker Guide for your Life. Tony Robbins, Oh yeah,
wakes up every morning with a cold plunge as a
cold plunge that is at his house.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
You know, I hear those are really good for you,
But I don't know if I could do it.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
I've never I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
This is Sjorty. Ever done a cold plunge?
Speaker 7 (19:38):
Oh yeah, no, I very much recommend like.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
In it like in a like an in and out
or like or do you do like like Brandon our
our editor here he does cold tub professional confessionals, do
you do a tub or do you just pop in
and pop out? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (19:53):
I think it's like thirty seconds recommended. Maybe don't never
put your head under. But every time I I do
like one of those dayseball things with my girlfriend, there's
like a cold plunge. That's the only time I've ever
done it, and I do like thirty seconds, but it
feels wonderful.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
If I take a cold shower, that's as far as
it goes, like a kind of lightworm, you know, that's
as far as I go.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
Cold plunge is what happens when you turn on the
shower and no hot water comes out.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Those cold showers are are quick.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I don't go into this shower until I touch it,
and it's exactly the temperture I want.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
True, But if you don't have hot water, if you
ran on hot water there is no hot water, yeah,
then you just have to Then that's when that's when
you truly figure out what is what was necessary. I'll
say this in the advance of the NFL season starting
on Thursday with the Eagles and Cowboys. I was fortunate
enough to be at Super Bowl fifty nine, and I
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completely forgot that it was thirty four to nothing in
the third quarter. Like that's just what happened on the
NFL network, that it was thirty four to nothing in
this Super Bowl. That's how much I don't remember from
the Super Bowl because of the game being such a blowout.
We'll see if the Eagles continue that with the Cowboys
coming up on Thursday.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
You see what I mean. This is why the Chiefs
are on a revenge tour.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Oh yes, perfect opportunity before we get to love and
hate for me to open up our questions. We have
NFL questions. Throughout today's show, Monty and I are in
for Doug Gottlieb. We're also going to be hanging out
for Covino and Rich later on today on Fox Sports Radio.
We have a hat that we've all thrown three questions
in about the NFL season that we are answering with
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our own thoughts. We don't know what the questions are,
so I have a question here, which year two quarterback
falls back to Earth or gets worse? Bo Nix, Jaydon Daniels,
Caleb Williams or Drake May. This is an interesting one.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
I have a question before you go on, was did
you read that verbatim?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Close to yes? Verbatim?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Why?
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Because I'm pretty sure I asked the exact same question, did.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
You write did you write?
Speaker 9 (22:02):
Though? This is another one?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
This is this is the reason I knew it was
Chris was because it was folded like origami or like
one of those those paper games where you play four
six red circle. Oh you're dating Tony.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
And you're going to have a mansion.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yes? Yeah? And am I dating Tony Horton or Tony Robbins?
Which which Tony and I just I just ripped. I'll
say this, I think it's darn near impossible for Jade
and Daniels to match what he did a year ago.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
And that's the logical answer. Absolutely absolutely. He blew us
out in his this is my question.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
No kidding, I'm kidding. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Go ahead,
go ahead. I was totally busting your jobs.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
He stared at me. I thought it was that. I
just go ahead, go ahead, No, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It's gonna be really tough to match. I love Michael Pennis,
but he didn't play really last year until the end.
So there's you have more of a more of a
piece of work with Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniels and Bonix.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Yeah, yeah, no, Michael Pennix, we don't. We don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
It's too small of a sample size, so he doesn't count.
But I think that's the right answer that Jayden. It's
gonna be hard for Jayden to top what he did or
even do it.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
We saw CJ. Stroud. We just saw CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Because he's gonna have a harder schedule. It's gonna people
are are going to know how to plan for him.
It's gonna be different.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Think of the games that the Commanders won last time,
oh yeah, and just on how crazy some of those were.
They they had the game against the Bears obviously that
we remember on the Hail Mary. They also had a
game that I will never forget where the Giants didn't
have a kicker and so the Commanders won with like
seven field goals because they couldn't get into the end zone.
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But the Giants couldn't kick, so they had to go
for it on fourth down all the time, and it
ends up they end up winning a close game in
that scenario. So to answer that question, I'm going to say,
Jayden Daniels of the Commanders.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
Don't you guys think that if if Caleb Williams has
the exact same season, so he doesn't digress at all,
that's still going to be a major step back.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Right, Yes, agreed?
Speaker 9 (24:14):
I mostly I mostly opened this up to bow Nicks
as well, because I quietly the Broncos like to have
the turnaround they have, and I don't think a lot
of people are talking about it because right now, like
I think the Chargers and the Chiefs are eating up
a lot of that conversation in that division. But I think,
I mean I personally quietly like, look at the Broncos, Like,
all right, I could see them being the team that
takes the step forward. But every year it feels like
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this was a really good quarterback class, and I don't
think we really appreciated it last year as being a
really great quarterback two years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Excuse me, I think that's a year and a half
if you will.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
Yeah, two drafts ago. Let's go with that that, but
usually most these guys end up falling off. And yet
a lot of the talk, even besides Jayden Daniels has
been Drake May looked good in Spurts, and bow Nicks
took them to the playoffs, and Caleb Williams you can
see their growth there. I'm just curious how many of
these guys really just keep that forward dementum because we
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usually see there's usually like maybe one and even then
they might have a slump of a sophomore year too.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
There's going to be a bust there is like I'm sorry,
We're just not We're not going to hit six out
of six from this quarterback class. It's just not going
to happen. And I think that the bow Nick scenario,
he has two things going for him. Number One, I
think we think they're a defensive team, which they are.
But he's still through twenty nine touchdown passes and through
for thirty seven hundred yards in his rookie season. But
we are also not talking about that. Like the Commanders
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they are on the shoulders of Jayden Daniels, the Bears
really are on the shoulders of Caleb Williams. And how
far that they go Drake May. I expect great things
from New England, but again, like Pennix, there really wasn't
as much of a sample size that you could talk about,
and so in a weird way, I like bo Nicks
working with Sean Payton, and I just think it's difficult
for Jade Daniel to match what he did. All right,
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you guys love that answer?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I agree? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
What else did you love? For the weekend? It's time
for love and hate?
Speaker 9 (26:07):
What did you love?
Speaker 10 (26:08):
God?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
I love you?
Speaker 9 (26:10):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Meet these player haters? We get what we love and
what we hate from the weekend. Bringing it to the
table here, I'm going to just go first because I
think it's pretty obvious the Ohio State's went over Texas.
Great way to start the college football season in a way,
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as long as the bottom doesn't fall out, I feel
in a way like it's go to Ohio State and
the College Football Playoff. It's crazy to say after week one,
but if you win the games that you're supposed to,
even if you lose that home to a really good
Penn State team, and even if the unthinkable happens that
you fall to Michigan at the end. Sorry, Texas is
going to be there. Texas is going to be a
top five, top ten team. You're going to have that
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on your resume. Ohio State's win over the Longhorns is
what I love from this weekend.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
No surprise there, Nori All. Okay, y'all. I love the Swifties.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I am not a Swiftie because I think a swifty
would say I'm not a swift ye.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
But I'm a big Taylor Swift fan. All right.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I went to a concert. We all know that. But
Swifties all, you do not mess with them. So the
game was was it the game Friday? Maybe it was
not this weekend, but it just happened at Arrowhead, Nebraska
Cincinnati playing ye ya Thursday night.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
So let me tell you. I got to bring this
up because the Swifties are so good.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
After the game, Nebraska decided to tweet out the picture,
a photoshot picture of it was the engagement photo of
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce. But they put the mascot
in for Nebraska and said in this photoshop picture after
they won, and then the quote was change of plans because.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
It was their engagement picture because.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
She was with the mascot the Swifties were not having it.
They were so mad Nebraska took the post down.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
That is the power of the Swifties and I love it.
I love it so much that fan base. I mean,
like they're gonna protect their girl the whole way.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
They took down the post because she wouldn't cheat on
Travis kelce and leave him.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
For from ESCA and FROMASCA. And they made a great
point in like the comments half of them.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
They were like, you had a good picture of Travis
kelcey being I think, wasn't there like a last minute
interception by Cincinnati and I think he's in.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
The box and he's like making a face.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
You could have tweeted that once you beat them, Sure
not Taylor Swift And that was their point and they
took it down.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
So I love the Swifties.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
My can's off, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Don't mess with her.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
It was yeah, yeah, Nebraska saving the day because it
looked a little a little sketchy there against the Bearcats.
All right, Jason, sort what'd you love from this past weekend?
Speaker 7 (28:51):
I love that the two things that I'm rooting for
in college football this year got off to great start.
So I'm a casual college football fan I don't necessarily
for our team. I don't really know the sport that well,
but I do root for these two storylines to fail.
I need Dion Sanders to fail without Shador and Travis Hunter,
and I need Arch Manning to fail. That'll be a
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more interesting storyline. They're off to great starts. Friday night,
Coach Prime had a controversial time clock issue at the
end of his game, and Arch Manning did his part
as well. So I love that. Thank you college football.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Again. I think the better stories of Arch is great.
And then we say, does he go to the NFL?
Does he do the Peytent thing and stay in school
when he could have gone? That's what I think is interesting.
Jason differs and that's why he's a happy man this
time around. Chris Burfett, what'd you love from the weekend?
Speaker 9 (29:47):
So two very quick things. First off is we finally
got number sixty five of what is known in the
USC fandom as the Perfect Day. I think it's been
almost eight years, don't crack my masth on that. I
believe last time was like twenty eighteen, and it did
take close to twenty four solid hours to get that
because USC and UCLA both play. For those who don't know,
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a perfect day from the school broadcaster is basically USC
has to win, UCLA loses, Notre Dame loses. Now, Notre
Dame did play on Sunday, but it was in a
twenty four hour window between the USC and UCLA games.
So I'm gonna take it. There's not much for me
to root for elite recently for USC, but hey, they
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they look fine in their opener. Ucla did not and
got you know, screwed around pretty hard and Notre Dame.
I don't know. I think that Miami pass Rush is
gonna be really damn good this year. But I'll take it.
I'll take it. It gets me fired up a little bit.
The other thing I really love from this weekend.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
And by the way, I was just gonna say, before
you take two loves on this, you're about to Iowa Samon,
I mean Missouri State. Just you're not gonna walk into
the coliseum. I think you're gonna get a I mean
seventy three to thirteen. It's you don't do that. You
don't do that in the Land of Troy.
Speaker 9 (31:06):
Sorry no, and I'm sorry to di Iowa Sam this,
but I just saw this, this morning, and I really
wanted to get on it. I'm sorry, not Oakland. The
Athletics posted yesterday about everyone you know about Hey, look,
all our players coming to the stadium wearing NFL jerseys
were feeling the football mood. Sean Newcombe, recently from the
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Boston Red Sox, wore a Patriots jersey with the number
eighty one on it. Oh boy, So it was so
the team had to step in just this morning and
zoom in on the photo to show the Mitchell and
Ness patch that it was indeed Randy Moss's number eighty
one and not what everyone perceived was an Aaron Hernandez
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number eighty one.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Oh very good.
Speaker 9 (31:52):
By the way, every reply to the Athletics still locked.
You still can't actually reply to them. This is all
in quote tweets.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Uh see. I fell for it. I fell for it
in a way they should have. They should have just
one the back of the jersey. I thought the same thing,
and I forgot that Randy Moss wore eighty one.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
I'm bad with numbers. I wouldn't have thought of that.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
All right, let's get to what we hated from the weekend.
There was the love four of us five loves. There
cannot be five hates. We can only do fourd hater,
He's the resident resident hater Jason Stewart.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
For a second, I was like, Dan Barr's losing it.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Tongue always calls Jason the resident hater, and it is.
It isn't like embraced by Jason, I would say, so,
I just figured.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
I'd double down. Yeah, why not?
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Yeah, I don't know if it's embraced. I mean we
can we can stop the music and I can get
into my entire nuanced opinion about being pigeonholed. A resident
I like to call it more like a a a
thoughtful skep dick, someone who goes out of their way
to find Devil's advocate. Angles on stories. Anyway, so we
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can go back to the music. Let's hate on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Oh, it's time hating with class. We're hating with class.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Thoughtful skeptic Jason Stewart, thank you, thank you for that.
Speaker 10 (33:25):
Dan.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
So Uh what I hated from the weekend is that
the Dodgers, my Dodgers have have seemed to regress to
where they were before the Pods. Why is that funny?
Because I told you guys to not freak out. Why
is that funny?
Speaker 9 (33:44):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (33:47):
They seemingly have regressed to what they remember. I said
after they swept the pod Rays that they had forgotten
about all of their flaws. They seem to resolve all
of their issues.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
What happened there?
Speaker 7 (33:59):
What is the word bugaboo? They seem to resolve all
their bugaboos and one one weekend. I could be wrong
on that. Chris is the one with four bug bears.
So this past weekend against the Diamondbacks are still doing
the same old stuff that frustrated Moncey and me for
most of this season. They just they're not playing up
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to what the roster of superstars and overpaid people should
be playing at this juncture. So I'm back to kind
of worrying about us as we enter September.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
You you blow a lead and then Will Smith saves
the day, and it's like putting cologonna on when you
haven't taken a shower for a week. That is that fair?
Speaker 7 (34:41):
Like Tanner Scott had to blow the lead with two
outs in the eighth for me to feel that way.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, I I I huddled under the desk because it
was prior to that, Padre series that I said Monti
and Jason were freaking out for no reason whatsoever. That
once you come through the weekend and you sweep that series,
you're two up on San Diego, which they did, and
then they lost to the Rockies and it hasn't been
immediately lost.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
To the Rockies after that. Oh, so annoying. They're so annoying.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
All right, what'd you hate from the weekend? Manzi?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So this is what I hate right now, is like,
now everybody thinks they're an expert in fantasy football, and
so you I'm annoyed that everyone's like running back, running back,
running back, bunning back.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Dab it.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
You're just doing that because you've read about it when
you know now you can't like it's it's frustrating.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
I just did a draft yesterday that I forgot about,
but I did it.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
It's frustrating because I'm like, you just you went down
and like dove deep into running backs because you read
that you need to get the running backs early on.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
In these rounds. It's so annoying.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Everybody everybody has the same plan, the same game plan,
when before it wasn't like that.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Now everyone's game plan is the same. Running backs running backs,
running backs.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
It is interesting. It's annoying because I do think in
fantasy football and when we look at the NFL and
we see the value of receivers right, and we think
that receivers like Jamar Chase is overtaken. There was a
time when in fantasy football the first eight picks would
be running backs. Now it's Jamar Chase is in that mix.
But I think in a weird way, it's made running
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backs even more valuable than they were before because you
have to get a good one that can do both
run and catch. So I understand your frustration.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
It's just I just am like annoyed with my all
of my teams. I'm like, this is not the team
I wanted. But it causes a ripple effect. If you
did this, well, I gotta go get this. I gotta
go dive deep into the running backs as well, because
you're all jumping the gun.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
You'll do a draft, you'll end up with Molik Neighbors
and Brian Thomas and you're like, great, that's awesome. I
picked at the back end. And then you get your
draft rade and draft grade is what I tried to say,
and then you're like C plus like what oh great
or d by the way, I know she got she
has Caleb Johnson from the Steelers, the rookie from Iowa,
because she made up a quarterback earlier and made Caleb.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
I just thought that was a generic name.
Speaker 7 (37:12):
One thing I'm disappointed with that Monsey. She informed us
before the show that she saw Weapons this weekend. I did,
and Weapons is, like, you know, was the rage for
a couple of weeks. It's everywhere on TikTok and Twitter.
And I don't think that you could see weapons and
not either love or hated it. In other words, there
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really isn't a middle ground with that movie. It either
offends the senses or you love it. And he didn't
include it, So are you in the middle ground here?
Speaker 4 (37:39):
I was trying to keep it sports related.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
To the sports, right, but I would tell you I
really liked it, but I love scary.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I wish it was scarier. I thought it was more
of a horror movie. It's not a horror movie. I
don't I wouldn't say that was a.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Horror movie because psychological Yeah, And I think it was
advertised as a horror movie. So I was disappointed on
that sense of it. But I really liked it. I
wanted more. I wanted to know where that lady came from.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Why does she have?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Did we just become a show that, you know what,
They're gonna talk about sports, but hey, they're also going
to talk about pop culture. They do a little bit
about lend check on our new show. That's what we're
gonna You know what, I got a new show launching
next week. It's gonna be a little bit of this,
a little bit of that. You know, everybody's happy. I
wish I had a weapon when you guys talk about weapons.
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Because Jason has sent me like four or five tiktoks,
I've told them I haven't watched one of them because
and I want my algorithm to be filled with horror flicks.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
It's not horror like.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
I just want people redoing their lawn and digging out
enormous rocks from those lawns. That's all that I want
on TikTok. Guess what we found a huge boulder. Now
we have to get all of this equipment out of
out of the law. You know what I hate. What
I hate is when chain restaurants failed to live up
to their ex I'll tell you what I'll tell you
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who's having a twenty twenty five It is Chili's. Chilies
is Yeah, Chilies is on the bounce back. The Chilies
is the place to be. Yeah, right now, right.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Just what they're veggie burger phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
See, and I'm so mad that they took off the
original chicken crispers from their menu. But now everybody's like,
oh the mozzarella.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Oh yes, they're like this va so like the size
of my forehead.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Shonky, They're giant, and yeah, they're delicious.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
My luggage got delayed from the flight back from the
Midwest to LA on Saturday. There was another flight coming
in two hours later. We said, let's go grab something
to eat. We'll get my bags when they come in
on the flight. The chain restaurant that we went to atrocious.
It was awful. It was bad, doubled up yesterday. Nobody
wanted to cook. It was hot as you know what outside.
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Let's just order a pizza. There's not a lot of
Mama popped pizza places around where I live, so you
got to go with the chains. Went with a chain,
completely awful. No one was happy.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Damn it. Shack.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah, can restaurants be I didn't name the name. I
didn't name the name, but yeah, yes, but I'll tell
you just step up your game like Chili's did, Like
it's about time.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yes, yes, I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
I've gone to Chili's recently with a friend and I
was like, man, I hadn't been here in years.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
Their chips in salsa was phenomenal. Like I was into it.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, they're on the comeback. All right, Chris Braffett, I'm.
Speaker 9 (40:24):
Gonna try to bring this back to sports best I can.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
All right, well, we talk about everything here.
Speaker 9 (40:30):
Klein de Bor is not seeing the light of heaven.
He will never see the light of heaven. And I
think a tarmac episode is absolutely If anyone lost the
most from this weekend, it might be Kaylen de Bor.
There's no patience in Alabama. And after watching that game,
I totally get it. That was listless. That was awful,
and yet somehow that's still not the thing I hated
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the most because this is gonna keep happening as Alabama
keeps falling into being in nothing, which it was nothing
between and Bear Bryant, here's the staff from.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Me and Stalls did win a national championship, but oh.
Speaker 9 (41:05):
Yeah, sure, sure every one of Alabama's last eleven road
losses featured a field storming, and that's exactly what Florida
State did. Storm to the field. We're reaching like Michigan
in the two thousands. Level of this program is listless.
You don't need to storm them, but we're going to
storm you anyway because you have been a thorn in
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our patchuxas for over a decade and a half. Like
this is not going to be an enjoyable fall for Alabama.
It's just going to be annoying.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I think that we will come to appreciate Nick Saban's
legacy in Tuscaloosa more and more and just how difficult
it was and for him to dominate in a conference
that was the top conference in college football for much
of his ten uere. It's going to be an amazing run.
And whoever fills killin De Boores shoes, that's going to
try to fill Nick saban shoes. It is going to
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have a tough time. It is a tough, tough task
for anybody not named Nick Saban. There. It is love
and hate from our fononful skeptic Jason Stewart, She's Monty.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
For a second.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
I'm good I love that Moncey is still alive during
this show.
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Sports College Football Analysts, host of the number one show
podcast for Fox Sports. Good friend r J Young joins us.
Speaker 10 (43:14):
Hello, RJ, and how are you doing that?
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Great? Great? We are having a great spirited discussion about
what transpired in Columbus on Saturday afternoon. Are you buying
low on arch Manning or could there be more to
come from what we saw from arch this past Saturday.
Speaker 10 (43:35):
I think most people, given a few days time, will
come back to there's more to come from arch Manny
who one simple fat He's not going to play Ohio
State for the next eleven weeks, right, everybody that they
play for the most art is either going to be
at that level or below that level. At that level
and think about Georgia right after that, I think we're
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going to see the dude grow up. I think that
it was unnerving to play and front of that many
hostile fans. I think that while we were really taking
a look at what Julian Dale was going to do
in his first ever start, this is Archie's first start
against a class college football opponent. I think it's more
upsetting as at Taxa fan, not what arch did or
didn't do. But they didn't they got shoot up at
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the goal line twice, that they were uncharacteristically limped and
thought in the run game when they needed to be better.
That I think would haunt them. But I'm buying on
archs meeting. I think he's going to be a great player.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Do you give more credit to maybe Matt Patricia or
do you think it was nerves and his first time
out in a hostile environment.
Speaker 9 (44:38):
I think it's got to be a bit of both.
Speaker 10 (44:40):
Honestly, I think that Matt Patritchie is an outstanding to
fits the coordinator. And while we can talk about arching
his nerves, one of the other things I think is
important to reference here is that's a really great defense
he's played too. I don't just mean the guy called
in the places. I mean Caleb Down For some he
is the best player in college football. I think he's
the second best player in college football and the best
player in college football mostly all then checks and Jeremiah
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Smith by that text of defense, Argo League played out standing.
Jermaine Matty, former five star and number one of this
he made the interceptions running that route to win and
we go. I think it's a bit of both, and
I think when both those things come together, it's going
to be really difficult to beat that team that said
still up fourteen to seven, not forty nine to seven.
Fourteen at seven.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (45:20):
R J.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Young joining us here on Fox Sports Radio talking about
the weekend that was in college football. She's Monzi Blago.
So I'm dan byer in for Doug one more on
that part, Like, I want to give Sark the benefit
of the doubt because of where Texas is. They are
a preseason number one. They're bringing in the players, but
you know, we're talking about James Franklin and his porous
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record against top five teams and what's expected of Penn State.
Does it? Will it build with Sark because they play
this close game against Ohio State on Saturday, they lose
to him, and what was a close game in the
Cotton Bowl in the Long Horns previous last game of
the season. At any point do you think he starts
to build on Sark or maybe we start to have
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conversations around him.
Speaker 10 (46:06):
No, he's got one of the coolest seats in college
football as well as I'm concerned that Texas program was
down and down bad and he got there. They made
two consecutive College Football Playoff appearances, they made two consecutive
conference Championship game appearances, and they won one in the
last couple of years. And all he's done is recruit
is behind off to make sure that they keep reloading
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on that offense and that defense. I think nobody in
Texas is happy about the loss in Ohio State. But
I also look at Dablis Queen and Clinton, right, they
took up pretty tough loss this weekend too. Nobody wants
to see Dablins Tweeny get out of Clinton. I think
it's going to be very much like that for tactics.
They have an opportunity to put together a great one
loss record.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Let's move on to that top ten matchup between LSU
and Clemson, where I think no one really expected the
young LSU team to take on this established defense with
Clemson and come out and win.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
What did you make of it? Were you surprised?
Speaker 10 (47:05):
I was not surprised, Monty. I actually thought this was
going to be a close game. I picked Clemson a
win because coming into Death Valley is very difficult. To
your point, that is what I think would have been unnervy.
But in the way that say Texas was a bit
unnerved by Ohio State. The boys from the body you
just were not Kayden Durham would outstanding run the ball.
You saw what kind of seed they had on the outside.
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I don't know how Barran Brownie's TD was taking off
the board because that looks like a TV on Mars.
So it's a much closer game than it should have
been on the scoreboards. Because Garret nuh Meyer's dude, he's
the players. Their old person's the dude, he's the players.
I think the defenses cancel each other out, which saw
was one guy got help from his office in Garrett
Nutmeyer and one guy did not in Kate club Nick,
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and that ended up being the difference in the game.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Oh, Jay Young joining us here on Fox Sports A Radio.
What I find funny is the conversation about the SEC
as a whole, because you have LSU getting the win
against Clemson, and I hate I'm not making this up
for the sake of of just bringing this to you,
R Jay. I heard people say disappointing weekend, But it's
because Texas doesn't be at Ohio State and Alabama doesn't
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meet Florida State. Now I can give Texas a pass.
Can we give Alabama a pass for what happened in
Tallahassee on Saturday?
Speaker 10 (48:20):
No, we can't give it a pass because we're comparing
Kalen's the boor to Nick Saban, which was always going
to be the case for the person that followed Mick
Saban at Alabama. So now we are back to an
era that I remember when I was in high school.
Now I was one to college. Alabama ain't nothing and
nobody we all think that we can get them. Now
Vanderbilt Scott in Kentucky's looking like, hey, that's meat over there,
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and Florida State said foo. And not only did they
say food, Tommy Cassolano's got out here and said, I
ain't scared a staban ain't there to save them. And
they stood on business and scare of it now. Taylor
de Boor is fourteen and four against unwrecked opponent. Nick
Staden was two hundred and thirty and four against unraked opponents. No,
it ain't fun to be kayling to Boor right now.
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It's really not BAMA fans that had it, I think.
And one will walk like this one to an unranked opponent. Yeah,
they might get job.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Does he lose his job? Could he lose his job
after this year? This is this is, by the way,
I feel dirty asking this question on September first and
just threw Sark under the bus after week one. It's
not my attention, r J, but Alabama's different, like, could
could there be could there be some some rumblings.
Speaker 10 (49:33):
Alabama is different. But I'm gonna put Kayloring to bore
on the spot that Brint Denibles has been pass Okay,
That's what I'm gonna do, all right. I do you
know how much Oklahoma means to me? Right? Yes, Fanny
me comes up an Odu fans and there are lots
of Oklahoma fans that want to see Brint Vinibles out
of his seat. I think that they got a little
bit more of a Harrick trigger at Bama because of
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the kind of success that had over the past twenty years.
But I don't think he loses his job this year.
I think they're gonna win eight nine games if they
win ten, to make the playoffs. That's why we changed
the seed, right, We changed the seating because they got
left out. We have tried to been over backwards to
make this DAMA program remain the Bama program that it was.
Savan with Saban and Kaylen Boord seems to be held.
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Make sure that we can rid that notion all the deaf.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
It's amazing, it truly is. The expectations and whoever followed
Nick Saban was going to have to deal with this,
and while you thought it could be an advantage, I'm
not sure if it is, even if you're bringing in
the talent that he's bringing.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
In nearly an impossible task.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah. Absolutely, a couple of more more before we let
you go. Miami survives against Notre Dame last night. It
looked like the Canes were in control before a late
push from Notre Dame. Were you impressed by Carson Beck's
performance against the fighting Irish.
Speaker 10 (50:46):
I was very inpressed by Carson Beck's performance. One of
the reasons I was that I had J. Carter and
tarried again. And what it came down to for me
is one guy is an experienced starter who is played
in games of this magnitude before and is used to winning.
To remember, Carton Beck got against Clinton last year, and
it's didn't look that dissimilar at Georgia last year that
it did this year. And he's got a budding star
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in Malachy Poniet wide receivers, CJ. Cars got good, he's
got moxie, but those intentional groundings that he had the
waves in which the game team to speed up for him,
and frankly, that's plus seven that Miami had. That's gonna
be the thing that I think turns them into kind
of program I think keeps for the Agency Championship. They're
asked the up front. I did not expect Ruben Daines
to basically build a house in the backfield next to you,
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Jay car while also making it easier on him by
not running the ball agains Jeremiah up. Very excited about
what Carson Beck can be at Miami, but you know
it's Miami. We thought they were gonna be great. Last
year they had a number one kick, so didn't make
the playoffs. That's the pass. Now can you make the
playoffs at Miami?
Speaker 3 (51:47):
One game left today North Carolina taking on TCU Bill
Belichick making his debut as a college coach for North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (51:57):
What are you expecting not just for today's game, for
the season for Belichick?
Speaker 10 (52:03):
I dare him to do better than the last high
profile coach to become a Pali War coach, not even
palisfour head coaching experience, and that's beyond standing to Colorado.
He does better than four and eight, I'm gonna give
him the benefit of the doubt next years. If he
wins ninety, I'm gonna give him benefts of the doubt
and have a heistand trope winner. But tonight they're playing
Texas Christian. This is a Texas Christian team that Deon
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Standars beat in his first game as a power for
head coach of Colorado on the road. I might add
this game is in Chapel Hill. That's a very minimum.
You need to beat Josh Huber and Sunny Dackson Texas Christians.
Otherwise I'm gonna start looking at you and ask him
why did they pay you ten million dollars? Then you've
haven't done much than anything. While Sanders at nine wins,
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then it's the top. The Big Twelve had a eisen
cochie winner first round pick. This is not the NFL.
This is college football. We do it a little bit
differently as easy to win here as many people think
it is.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Well, I thank If North Carolina wins tonight, it'd be
a pretty darn good weekend for the ACC with the
Florida State victory. Of course, you mentioned the Clemson loss,
but it would be a good weekend for that conference
if North Carolina could pull it off with the Miami
victory as well over Notre Dame RJ. We love talking
to you. We love watching you. Keep up the good work.
We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 10 (53:14):
And Manty, thanks so much for having a later day.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Do you want to draw a question? Okay, so this
is what we've done. We've thrown a bunch of questions
into this. We don't even have a box or a hat.
We've got a bunch of a bunch of questions thrown
out that. I wrote that, Manzi wrote that, Jason Stewart wrote,
and Chris Prefett. In fact, Chris Prefett has just finished
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his questions, and we've just got random questions that we
want to answer about the upcoming NFL season. So there
are twelve questions at all. Monzy gets the first crack.
All right, Manzi, there's there's twelve, twelve pieces of paper.
I would put it into my new hat, but my
new hat is I don't want you guys putting your
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grimy hands into my cat.
Speaker 9 (54:00):
I have like a Dodger's mini helmet in here.
Speaker 4 (54:04):
Could be dre walk right by. That didn't even get it.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Okay, I didn't even see it. All right, first question,
let's see what it's one of hers.
Speaker 4 (54:11):
I could tell already by the writing.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
So why not. Let's get a different one, right, since
I know there, Okay, here we go. Are the Chiefs
finally going to have everything catch up to them?
Speaker 9 (54:22):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (54:23):
Wow?
Speaker 9 (54:24):
Actually, I think that's my question to Chris all right.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Oh, I thought we were keeping it secret.
Speaker 4 (54:29):
I didn't know that I was not.
Speaker 9 (54:31):
But I thought you said that was like her handwriting.
Speaker 4 (54:33):
No, no, no, no, I literally did not grab you
guys wrote the same question. Yeah, are the Chiefs finally
going to have everything catch up to them? I don't
think so.
Speaker 3 (54:44):
Call me crazy, but I think Patrick Mahomes has a
chip on his shoulder, and I think he's going to
be on a revenge tour to prove that he has
not lost his step, because last year, all most of
us did was criticized a team that was ten and
one ten and to whatever they were ending fifteen into.
We were not satisfied with how the Chiefs were winning
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last year single score games. I get all that Travis
Kelce may have lost his step, but I don't think
Patrick Mahomes has, and there is no reason for me
to think.
Speaker 4 (55:18):
That everything is going to catch up to them.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
Here's the toughest thing for me to pick against the
Chiefs when it comes down to it is how well
they operate in late games.
Speaker 4 (55:25):
Since, yeah, they know what they're doing, yes they do.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
They understand how to work the clock. When they have
a lead, it's done near impossible to get the football
back from them. Now. Granted they've had some clean escapes
and maybe once in a while we've seen airs, but
I would say on a performance rate compared to the
other thirty one teams, they just know how to win
those close games and if they're ahead or behind, they
figure out a way to do it. And that's ultimately
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a tip of the cap to Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.
So I think that's what makes it so difficult to
pick against them.
Speaker 3 (55:55):
Yeah, there's no Maybe a year from now will be
like okay, but there's no reason for us aside from
we're just angry at how they won, Angry that it
wasn't more flashy, more like we had seen in previous years.
Speaker 4 (56:09):
It was just a little sloppy, but they still won.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Yeah. I really hope they don't go to the Super
Bowl again. I just I just I want a different
end zone in the super Bowl, just a different color,
different different painting. That's all that I asked the Bengals
in Super Bowl fifty six was a bit refreshing. It
wasn't the big Yellow with the Chiefs red. I just
want a different end zone super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (56:28):
I don't know that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
So they can win, they can make the playoffs. I
just don't want them to go to the super Bowl.
She's mancy, I'm Dan. We've got eleven more questions, and
I know that there are only two of Chris Burfett's
left in the in the Dodger helmet,
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You know, I was ready to show off my new
hat today. I know it's difficult in an audio medium. Well,
you'll see video of us as well. And then Monty
comes dressed up on a Labor Day wearing a dress.
The hair is done, my hat takes second fiddle.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You know, I appreciate the compliments. I did wash my hair,
so you're right. I did dress up, I washed my hair.
I'm excited to be here. I wish we had some
veggie dogs and veggie burgers.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Nothing says Labor Day like a nice vegetable pack hot dog.
But it's your great summer.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Delicious, delicious, delicious.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I'm the only thing I need.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I do think that the Labor Day cookout gets the
bronze of the Memorial Day Fourth of July cookouts that
you have. Yes, now we kind of move already the
fall stuff is out and football is here. NFL week one,
we can start officially talking about the games that are
coming up on Sunday. And now we have Week one
of the college football season, Manzie. That is almost in
the rearview mirror except for a game tonight where Bill
(01:24):
Belichick makes his debut as the North Carolina head coach
against TCU. But other than that, Week one, all in
the books for college.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
All in the books.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Your team, defending national champion out there proving that they
should have probably been preseason ranking number one.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I think they made a good statement.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
They made a statement. Absolutely that was not a great game,
but they won. I mean, I'm not gonna lie. There's
no way. You sat there and you were like, this
is such a fun guy.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I had wondered what it was like for fans, and
I think I knew the answer. That didn't have a
dog in the fight, correct, because it was a hyped game.
One versus two, one versus three, depending on which pole
you live by the coaches poul, which is the one
I think is the least popular. More people go by
the eight people, but that the coaches poll had at
one versus two. So let's do one versus two. For
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the sake of this argument, I was invested as an
Ohio State fan, and I know Texas fans were invested
as they were fans, But I couldn't help think that
the general public, like yourself, that didn't have a dog
in the fight, was saying, this is how ime kicking
off my college football season.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
A little bit. I woke up at nine am.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
For this, Yes, litt bit, Yes on the on the
left coast.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Yes on the West coast, definitely.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And this was another part of the drama of that
game because of the Fox big noon kickoff and Fox
was there, and there's been some controversy at least in
Ohio State's stratosphere of them because they are such a
marquee brand being the top team for Fox to have
all of their games put at noon Eastern time. Because
of the big noon kickoff lead in Ohio State had
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wanted to switch the game to a night game. Texas said, no, well,
we'll play it on Saturday. We'll play it early on Fox,
and that's what ended up happening, and then you had
a game that ends up fourteen to seven Ohio State wins.
But truly, Manzi, for as much as you would think
it would be about the defending national champions. It had
nothing to do with the defending national champions.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Oh, absolutely nothing to do The story was the Manning,
the other the next.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And he is, and he is. He's truly, aside from
Bill Belichick, the only story that has garnered any interest
in the preseason leading up to it. We had a
game last night that will dive into of Notre Dame
and Miami and Carson Beck who was at a Marquee
School of Georgia and transfers and gets his first start
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with the Miami Hurricanes. That doesn't even come close to
the level of intrigue. Carson Beck was dating one of
the Cavender twins. Yeah, now they're not anymore. They're not together.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Anymore, slight, Thank you for the update.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And that didn't even rise to the level of what
arch Manning has been to college football. Arch Manning didn't
have one hundred yards passing until the fourth quarter of
their game against Ohio State on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
He didn't have a pass more than ten yards until
the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
In the air seventeen to thirty one hundred and seventy yards,
the one touchdown late and an interception that was not
a good interception. This is Arch Manning talking about his
own performance in his first start is the Texas quarterback
on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Yeah, it didn't start fast enough. Took a whole half
for us to kind of even get the ball down
the field. So that starts with me. Get back to
square one and then get back Monday and go prepare
for Santase State. Yeah, ultimately not good enough. Obviously you
don't want to start off season zero to one. They're
a good team. But I thought we beat ourselves a lot,
and that starts with me and I got to play
better for us to win. Can't wait till the second
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half to kind of get things going.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
That's the message from Arch the player, which sounds very
much like a Manning esque Manning esque that. By the way,
the comments that you're hearing from March as well are
the only comments that you're gonna hear that are grounded.
We're gonna hear from Sarka just a second as well.
But everything outside all of the noise about Arch Manning
was focused on the game on Saturday was truly negative.
(05:14):
And Monzi, I am not even though the team that
I was rooting for beat Texas I am all in
on arch Manning. I am completely In fact, I would
double my bet right now with better odds as he
has fallen out of the leading spot for the Heisman.
According to Las Vegas, he is no longer John Mattira
(05:36):
is now your odds on leader player with the shortest
odds of winning the Heisman. Arches dropped down to sixteen
to one. If I was a betting man, Manzi, I
am moving all in on that. I Am not going
to take one bad performance in an opening game against
the defending national champions with a brand new defensive coordinator
and still loads of talent on defense that came back
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from that national championship team a year ago, and hold
it against arch Manning, especially for what I saw in
the fourth quarter, which is what you alluded to with
the passing yards that he had downfield. Take your shots
now if you want on Arch Manning, because this is
going to be the only time we're going to be
able to do it.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah. I a couple of things with this.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I very very logical of you, as an Ohio State
fan to not hit the panic button, but the patient's button,
which I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
I'm hit the patient's button.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Here guys, like this was against the defendant national champion
on their territory where we have seen very little of
Arch Manning.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
I feel I agree.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
With you that the Manning family would not put their
son in this position if they didn't think he was
capable of it. Even that answer himself. They have literally
trained him. You are the quarterback, you take the responsibility
when it goes bad.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
But in reality, he never got in a rhythm.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Give that up to Ohio, Matt Patricia, give it up
to whoever you want.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
They never got in a rhythm all even you.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Could argue in the fourth quarter, but like that started
the second half, Arch Manning took them downfield with his legs.
He still didn't throw the ball. They still didn't let
him get in a rhythm. Ohio did not get in
a rhythm. Give it up to Texas punter. There was
a couple of kicks that was making the buck guys
not be able to get in a rhythm.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
You never got in a rhythm in the first half.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, that's why I was. It was kind of a
boring game when you don't have a dog in the fight.
No one got in a rhythm. There wasn't a lot
of scoring and by the end of it, I agree
with you. I don't Arch Manning did not look good,
but I'm not hitting the panic button.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I feel that people are wanting to cash in their
chips now, and if they aren't a Manning fan or
not a Manning family fan, that they'll take this opportunity
to tell you I told you so. And I'm fully
aware of that, Manzi. I've also said that I thought
that there was a chance if the Saint said the
first overall pick next year, that Arch would declare for
the draft. And I think that there are people are saying, see,
look right now, he's not ready for the NFL. We're
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talking four quarters in right.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
No, because that's they think that's a victory for them.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yes that they think.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
That's a victory for them.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And it's like, come on, y'all, four quarters in like
you in enemy territory, like the first time a season.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Oh, like, what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Nerves could be nerves are okay, this is normal, This
is normal. It's there's no reason, but people just want
to take their own personal victory lap.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Right now. Let's see where we are in a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Let's hear what Steve Sarkizian, Arch's head coach, had to
say after the loss on Saturday about his quarterback.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
The expectations were out of control on the outside. But
I'd say, let's finish the book before we before we
judge it right. This is this is one chapter and
we got a long season to go play. The growth
throughout the game for Arch was was really encouraging for me.
We're we're gonna be fine. Like I said, we got
work to do as a team and as an offense.
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But ultimately, like I'm getting on the plane knowing we're
gonna be a good football team. And so, hey, we
didn't win, didnight. That's a life of a competitor. We
went for it in a tough place against a good team.
But we'll get we'll get back on the horse and
we'll play good football this season.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I think that his use of books was amazing, because well,
I only listen to books now reading and just very
very difficult. I used an album as how I looked
at Arch manning for this year. This is the first
song on an album. Now, granted you want.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
An intro song to.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It was just the intro to it. This for those
of us who had CDs. This was track one, right,
I want we know the hits are track two, track three,
track four. That's what's coming up. And on a great album,
you could listen to song after song after song. This
was track one on arch Manning's album, and I just
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feel everybody is now taking a victory lap. We don't
know the type of quarterback he's going to be. We
don't know if arch Manning is going to be more
like Peyton, more like Eli, or more like his grandpa,
who he's named after. The way that he ran the football,
he seems more like Archie than he does of Eli
or Peyton. By the way, Eli threw tons of interceptions,
would lead the league in the NFL in interceptions. You
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know why because he also didn't have a conscience that
had the confidence enough that I'm gonna make these throws.
I've felt Eli Manning had made Odell Beckham who he
is because there were eighty percent of the quarterbacks of
the NFL that would never make the throws that Eli
would be willing to make. And then you have Peyton
who was able to dissect defenses through him being basically
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a coach on the field and ends up winning two
Super Bowl titles. They are all these different ways to
go because you have one weekend in the spotlight against
the defending national champions, against the new defensive coordinator. And
by the way, Arch could play this year, Arch could
play next year, and as crazy as it sounds, could
play the next year after that if you wanted to
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before going to the National Football League. That's what's ahead
for Arch Manning. It's not just one game, and I
feel we need to pump the brakes. And if you're
like me by now, why you're stocked now when it
dipped after this game, because it's never ever going to
be as low as it was after Saturday's performance.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
You know you've.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Convinced me I'm gonna go a place a bed on
this heisman because you're right. By the third quarter, he
had dropped in the third quarter, had dropped from favorite
to fourth or fifth in the middle of the game.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
You're so right, because.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
When I listen to an album, you know, I skip
the first track usually a lot of times, and I
have no regrets.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
I don't even think about it.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
We are not even going to think about this game
come a couple of weeks and months from now, because
I'm totally with you, Dan, it will be a footnote.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
I remember that one game. I would start how funny,
oh funny.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Even though the score was seven to fourteen, it wasn't
even a blowout.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
It was seven to fourteen.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
In spots where they were stopped at the goal line twice. Yes,
so there were opportunities for Texas to win this game
when you look back at what happens. When you look
back at Arch Manning's career. By the way, a lot
of people will say it's because of the name on
his back.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Oh absolutely it.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
By the way, it is because you want to know why.
Because in the National Football League, when you're looking at players,
and even in college football, there is nothing more random
than an eighteen to twenty two year old kid. And
if you can have any information or any intel that
guess what, something may not be as random because they
come from a certain pedigree, they come from a certain family.
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You're gonna take that and that is going to be
a benefit to you. So yeah, so there is some
stock in the Manning name. It's not that we'rely talking
about him because his last name is Manning. No, that's
not it. We're talking about him because of how great
the Manning players have been previously, and he has lived
up to the expectations up to this point. And if
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you want to jump ship now because he didn't reach
your expectations in week one, then that's on you, because
I don't think that there's any reason to jump ship
on Arch Manning right now.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
And you know into what you're saying here, it's like you,
the name Manning is the reason why people are being
patient like us, and at the same time why people
are trying to take a victory lap. It's the same
reason you're trying to take a victory lap because his
name is Arch Manning.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
If his name was Caleb Johnson, you would not be saying, oh,
I was right, I was right. I told you all.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
It goes both ways that you want to be critical,
extra critical because he's a Manning while some of us
are being patient and telling you Rex it was game
one because of they're both they both are because he's
a Manning.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Can I ask you this question if you were to
say Arch Manning is more of a story because of
A he's great, or would it be B he's not great?
What do you think what is the bigger story with.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Arch Manning that he's great.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Jason Stewart and I had that sort of dilemma. I
agreed with you, you think the bigger stories if Arch
isn't great, I do.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
I think that'll be the more interesting story. It was
the the ass respect of Saturday that I was most
rooting for him to do what he did because it
will almost kind of force our industry to maybe rethink
the way it presents itself. Right, Dan, you brought up
this weeks ago, that even months ago, that the Saints
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might likely tank to take Arch manning next spring. I've
heard similar things said matter of factly by people in
our industry, not scouts, not people to do draft projections,
but just radio hosts, debate hosts. And I kept saying,
in my mind, what has Arch done in college to
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demand that kind of respect that he is the de
facto number one pick in the draft next season? And
the answers to me were, weren't there? So Saturday, in
a lot of ways kind of confirmed to me that were.
Why was everyone speaking so matter of factly about this
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about this kid? It was not only unfair to him,
and I think the last time you guys filled in,
we were reacting to his grandpa's comments and that magazine,
and I think his grandpa was attempting to kind of
decrease the amount of hype for this kid, and looking back,
I think that that was a smart play. So anyways,
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the bigger story to me, because of who I am,
because I do content for a living, is that he fails,
and then I want to see everybody apologize for their stance.
For matter of fact, he's saying that he's the number
one pick next spring. How do we know what proof
has he given us that he warrants them?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Because I think that the bar that he has to
reach again with the Manning name and who he is
and what that family has done, gives you at least
some information that other quarterbacks don't know. And it's no
disrespect to cam Ward. It's no disrespect to Caleb Williams.
There isn't the the family tree of success. Now he
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may not be as good as Eli or Peyton, but
at least you know that there is something there and
that there is something to build on, which I feel
what you're drafting twenty one and twenty two year old
kids is the part of the game. As it is,
there is such a risk, so much more in the
NBA because kids are even younger at that point. But
anything that you can take that is given and not
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an unknown is a huge advantage over anybody else, especially
at the quarterback position.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah, this isn't like a one off family member that
was that had successes at the quarterback position in the NFL.
It's multiple family members. One of arguably the best in
Peyton Manning. You could say, and I guess I am
trusting that they know what they've seen since he was
a little kid growing up to want to be this,
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that they wouldn't put him in this position if they.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Didn't think he had it in him. I just I
have to believe that, and that's where it comes. And
even though I hear.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
What you're saying, Jason, if he was not good, if
he was quote unquote a failure, that would be the
bigger story, but for a shorter amount of time. If
he is good, then this story will last for years
going into the NFL. Him failing would be only so
long and then we'd stop talking about it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
As crazy as it sounds, this may sound ridiculous, but
I mentioned cam Ward. If arch Manning was in last
year's draft, he would have been the first overall pick. Yeah,
he would have gone ahead of cam Ward. I mean,
as as crazy as that sounds, and that's to no
fault of Arch Manning. But I just embedding on everything
that we know. The real heat actually probably comes on
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Steve Sarkisian because now you've had Queen Ewers there, who
was thought to be the uber prospect, the highest rated
perfect prospect, goes to Texas, doesn't necessarily stay healthy and
ends up being a late round pick of the Miami Dolphins.
And now you've got Arch Manning from the Manning Tree
coming in and if he doesn't turn into the quarterback
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that I think he's going to be, I think that's
such an indictment on Steve Sarkisian. Maybe that's why quarterbacks
are now going to Ohio State to play under Ryan Day,
to play under these guys and seeing how some of
the successes is going, because that would be now two
top quarterbacks that Texas hasn't been able to cash in
on and then translate to the next level. I think
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there's pressure on Steve Sarkisian to make sure that Arch works.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I think few people are saying that yes, not yet,
not yet, not yet.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Right now, it's Manning.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
It's all about Art. And by the way, if he
throws for five touchdowns against Oklahoma and the Cotton Bowl
in early October, this will be a distant memory. This
will be long gone and we'll talk about Arch's arrival
to your point. Hitter off at Manzi Blano's He Got
Me at Dan Byron Fox. Jason Stewart is here at
Jason Stewart Chris Profetar technical producer.
Speaker 8 (18:52):
This is the best of the Done Dot Leaf Show
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
I'm not putting in a bad spot. It's just I'm
just gonna say it. I just asked Monzi, you know
who Tony Robbins is, and Monzi cause is that the
guy from P ninety X? And then I didn't know
the guy for P ninety x's name, so I had
to look it up. That's Tony Horton's I'm talking about
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motivational speaker Guide for your Life. Tony Robbins, Oh yeah,
wakes up every morning with a cold plunge as a
cold plunge that is at his house.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
You know, I hear those are really good for you,
But I don't know if I could do it.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
I've never I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
This is Sjorty. Ever done a cold plunge?
Speaker 7 (19:38):
Oh yeah, no, I very much recommend like.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
In it like in a like an in and out
or like or do you do like like Brandon our
our editor here he does cold tub professional confessionals, do
you do a tub or do you just pop in
and pop out? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (19:53):
I think it's like thirty seconds recommended. Maybe don't never
put your head under. But every time I I do
like one of those dayseball things with my girlfriend, there's
like a cold plunge. That's the only time I've ever
done it, and I do like thirty seconds, but it
feels wonderful.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
If I take a cold shower, that's as far as
it goes, like a kind of lightworm, you know, that's
as far as I go.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
Cold plunge is what happens when you turn on the
shower and no hot water comes out.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Those cold showers are are quick.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I don't go into this shower until I touch it,
and it's exactly the temperture I want.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
True, But if you don't have hot water, if you
ran on hot water there is no hot water, yeah,
then you just have to Then that's when that's when
you truly figure out what is what was necessary. I'll
say this in the advance of the NFL season starting
on Thursday with the Eagles and Cowboys. I was fortunate
enough to be at Super Bowl fifty nine, and I
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completely forgot that it was thirty four to nothing in
the third quarter. Like that's just what happened on the
NFL network, that it was thirty four to nothing in
this Super Bowl. That's how much I don't remember from
the Super Bowl because of the game being such a blowout.
We'll see if the Eagles continue that with the Cowboys
coming up on Thursday.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
You see what I mean. This is why the Chiefs
are on a revenge tour.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Oh yes, perfect opportunity before we get to love and
hate for me to open up our questions. We have
NFL questions. Throughout today's show, Monty and I are in
for Doug Gottlieb. We're also going to be hanging out
for Covino and Rich later on today on Fox Sports Radio.
We have a hat that we've all thrown three questions
in about the NFL season that we are answering with
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our own thoughts. We don't know what the questions are,
so I have a question here, which year two quarterback
falls back to Earth or gets worse? Bo Nix, Jaydon Daniels,
Caleb Williams or Drake May. This is an interesting one.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
I have a question before you go on, was did
you read that verbatim?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Close to yes? Verbatim?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Why?
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Because I'm pretty sure I asked the exact same question, did.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
You write did you write?
Speaker 9 (22:02):
Though? This is another one?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
This is this is the reason I knew it was
Chris was because it was folded like origami or like
one of those those paper games where you play four
six red circle. Oh you're dating Tony.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
And you're going to have a mansion.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yes? Yeah? And am I dating Tony Horton or Tony Robbins?
Which which Tony and I just I just ripped. I'll
say this, I think it's darn near impossible for Jade
and Daniels to match what he did a year ago.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
And that's the logical answer. Absolutely absolutely. He blew us
out in his this is my question.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
No kidding, I'm kidding. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Go ahead,
go ahead. I was totally busting your jobs.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
He stared at me. I thought it was that. I
just go ahead, go ahead, No, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It's gonna be really tough to match. I love Michael Pennis,
but he didn't play really last year until the end.
So there's you have more of a more of a
piece of work with Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniels and Bonix.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Yeah, yeah, no, Michael Pennix, we don't. We don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
It's too small of a sample size, so he doesn't count.
But I think that's the right answer that Jayden. It's
gonna be hard for Jayden to top what he did or
even do it.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
We saw CJ. Stroud. We just saw CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Because he's gonna have a harder schedule. It's gonna people
are are going to know how to plan for him.
It's gonna be different.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Think of the games that the Commanders won last time,
oh yeah, and just on how crazy some of those were.
They they had the game against the Bears obviously that
we remember on the Hail Mary. They also had a
game that I will never forget where the Giants didn't
have a kicker and so the Commanders won with like
seven field goals because they couldn't get into the end zone.
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But the Giants couldn't kick, so they had to go
for it on fourth down all the time, and it
ends up they end up winning a close game in
that scenario. So to answer that question, I'm going to say,
Jayden Daniels of the Commanders.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
Don't you guys think that if if Caleb Williams has
the exact same season, so he doesn't digress at all,
that's still going to be a major step back.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Right, Yes, agreed?
Speaker 9 (24:14):
I mostly I mostly opened this up to bow Nicks
as well, because I quietly the Broncos like to have
the turnaround they have, and I don't think a lot
of people are talking about it because right now, like
I think the Chargers and the Chiefs are eating up
a lot of that conversation in that division. But I think,
I mean I personally quietly like, look at the Broncos, Like,
all right, I could see them being the team that
takes the step forward. But every year it feels like
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this was a really good quarterback class, and I don't
think we really appreciated it last year as being a
really great quarterback two years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Excuse me, I think that's a year and a half
if you will.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
Yeah, two drafts ago. Let's go with that that, but
usually most these guys end up falling off. And yet
a lot of the talk, even besides Jayden Daniels has
been Drake May looked good in Spurts, and bow Nicks
took them to the playoffs, and Caleb Williams you can
see their growth there. I'm just curious how many of
these guys really just keep that forward dementum because we
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usually see there's usually like maybe one and even then
they might have a slump of a sophomore year too.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
There's going to be a bust there is like I'm sorry,
We're just not We're not going to hit six out
of six from this quarterback class. It's just not going
to happen. And I think that the bow Nick scenario,
he has two things going for him. Number One, I
think we think they're a defensive team, which they are.
But he's still through twenty nine touchdown passes and through
for thirty seven hundred yards in his rookie season. But
we are also not talking about that. Like the Commanders
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they are on the shoulders of Jayden Daniels, the Bears
really are on the shoulders of Caleb Williams. And how
far that they go Drake May. I expect great things
from New England, but again, like Pennix, there really wasn't
as much of a sample size that you could talk about,
and so in a weird way, I like bo Nicks
working with Sean Payton, and I just think it's difficult
for Jade Daniel to match what he did. All right,
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you guys love that answer?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I agree? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
What else did you love? For the weekend? It's time
for love and hate?
Speaker 9 (26:07):
What did you love?
Speaker 10 (26:08):
God?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
I love you?
Speaker 9 (26:10):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Meet these player haters? We get what we love and
what we hate from the weekend. Bringing it to the
table here, I'm going to just go first because I
think it's pretty obvious the Ohio State's went over Texas.
Great way to start the college football season in a way,
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as long as the bottom doesn't fall out, I feel
in a way like it's go to Ohio State and
the College Football Playoff. It's crazy to say after week one,
but if you win the games that you're supposed to,
even if you lose that home to a really good
Penn State team, and even if the unthinkable happens that
you fall to Michigan at the end. Sorry, Texas is
going to be there. Texas is going to be a
top five, top ten team. You're going to have that
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on your resume. Ohio State's win over the Longhorns is
what I love from this weekend.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
No surprise there, Nori All. Okay, y'all. I love the Swifties.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I am not a Swiftie because I think a swifty
would say I'm not a swift ye.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
But I'm a big Taylor Swift fan. All right.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I went to a concert. We all know that. But
Swifties all, you do not mess with them. So the
game was was it the game Friday? Maybe it was
not this weekend, but it just happened at Arrowhead, Nebraska
Cincinnati playing ye ya Thursday night.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
So let me tell you. I got to bring this
up because the Swifties are so good.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
After the game, Nebraska decided to tweet out the picture,
a photoshot picture of it was the engagement photo of
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce. But they put the mascot
in for Nebraska and said in this photoshop picture after
they won, and then the quote was change of plans because.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
It was their engagement picture because.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
She was with the mascot the Swifties were not having it.
They were so mad Nebraska took the post down.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
That is the power of the Swifties and I love it.
I love it so much that fan base. I mean,
like they're gonna protect their girl the whole way.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
They took down the post because she wouldn't cheat on
Travis kelce and leave him.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
For from ESCA and FROMASCA. And they made a great
point in like the comments half of them.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
They were like, you had a good picture of Travis
kelcey being I think, wasn't there like a last minute
interception by Cincinnati and I think he's in.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
The box and he's like making a face.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
You could have tweeted that once you beat them, Sure
not Taylor Swift And that was their point and they
took it down.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
So I love the Swifties.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
My can's off, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Don't mess with her.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
It was yeah, yeah, Nebraska saving the day because it
looked a little a little sketchy there against the Bearcats.
All right, Jason, sort what'd you love from this past weekend?
Speaker 7 (28:51):
I love that the two things that I'm rooting for
in college football this year got off to great start.
So I'm a casual college football fan I don't necessarily
for our team. I don't really know the sport that well,
but I do root for these two storylines to fail.
I need Dion Sanders to fail without Shador and Travis Hunter,
and I need Arch Manning to fail. That'll be a
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more interesting storyline. They're off to great starts. Friday night,
Coach Prime had a controversial time clock issue at the
end of his game, and Arch Manning did his part
as well. So I love that. Thank you college football.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Again. I think the better stories of Arch is great.
And then we say, does he go to the NFL?
Does he do the Peytent thing and stay in school
when he could have gone? That's what I think is interesting.
Jason differs and that's why he's a happy man this
time around. Chris Burfett, what'd you love from the weekend?
Speaker 9 (29:47):
So two very quick things. First off is we finally
got number sixty five of what is known in the
USC fandom as the Perfect Day. I think it's been
almost eight years, don't crack my masth on that. I
believe last time was like twenty eighteen, and it did
take close to twenty four solid hours to get that
because USC and UCLA both play. For those who don't know,
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a perfect day from the school broadcaster is basically USC
has to win, UCLA loses, Notre Dame loses. Now, Notre
Dame did play on Sunday, but it was in a
twenty four hour window between the USC and UCLA games.
So I'm gonna take it. There's not much for me
to root for elite recently for USC, but hey, they
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they look fine in their opener. Ucla did not and
got you know, screwed around pretty hard and Notre Dame.
I don't know. I think that Miami pass Rush is
gonna be really damn good this year. But I'll take it.
I'll take it. It gets me fired up a little bit.
The other thing I really love from this weekend.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
And by the way, I was just gonna say, before
you take two loves on this, you're about to Iowa Samon,
I mean Missouri State. Just you're not gonna walk into
the coliseum. I think you're gonna get a I mean
seventy three to thirteen. It's you don't do that. You
don't do that in the Land of Troy.
Speaker 9 (31:06):
Sorry no, and I'm sorry to di Iowa Sam this,
but I just saw this, this morning, and I really
wanted to get on it. I'm sorry, not Oakland. The
Athletics posted yesterday about everyone you know about Hey, look,
all our players coming to the stadium wearing NFL jerseys
were feeling the football mood. Sean Newcombe, recently from the
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Boston Red Sox, wore a Patriots jersey with the number
eighty one on it. Oh boy, So it was so
the team had to step in just this morning and
zoom in on the photo to show the Mitchell and
Ness patch that it was indeed Randy Moss's number eighty
one and not what everyone perceived was an Aaron Hernandez
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number eighty one.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Oh very good.
Speaker 9 (31:52):
By the way, every reply to the Athletics still locked.
You still can't actually reply to them. This is all
in quote tweets.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Uh see. I fell for it. I fell for it
in a way they should have. They should have just
one the back of the jersey. I thought the same thing,
and I forgot that Randy Moss wore eighty one.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
I'm bad with numbers. I wouldn't have thought of that.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
All right, let's get to what we hated from the weekend.
There was the love four of us five loves. There
cannot be five hates. We can only do fourd hater,
He's the resident resident hater Jason Stewart.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
For a second, I was like, Dan Barr's losing it.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Tongue always calls Jason the resident hater, and it is.
It isn't like embraced by Jason, I would say, so,
I just figured.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
I'd double down. Yeah, why not?
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Yeah, I don't know if it's embraced. I mean we
can we can stop the music and I can get
into my entire nuanced opinion about being pigeonholed. A resident
I like to call it more like a a a
thoughtful skep dick, someone who goes out of their way
to find Devil's advocate. Angles on stories. Anyway, so we
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can go back to the music. Let's hate on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Oh, it's time hating with class. We're hating with class.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Thoughtful skeptic Jason Stewart, thank you, thank you for that.
Speaker 10 (33:25):
Dan.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
So Uh what I hated from the weekend is that
the Dodgers, my Dodgers have have seemed to regress to
where they were before the Pods. Why is that funny?
Because I told you guys to not freak out. Why
is that funny?
Speaker 9 (33:44):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (33:47):
They seemingly have regressed to what they remember. I said
after they swept the pod Rays that they had forgotten
about all of their flaws. They seem to resolve all
of their issues.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
What happened there?
Speaker 7 (33:59):
What is the word bugaboo? They seem to resolve all
their bugaboos and one one weekend. I could be wrong
on that. Chris is the one with four bug bears.
So this past weekend against the Diamondbacks are still doing
the same old stuff that frustrated Moncey and me for
most of this season. They just they're not playing up
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to what the roster of superstars and overpaid people should
be playing at this juncture. So I'm back to kind
of worrying about us as we enter September.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
You you blow a lead and then Will Smith saves
the day, and it's like putting cologonna on when you
haven't taken a shower for a week. That is that fair?
Speaker 7 (34:41):
Like Tanner Scott had to blow the lead with two
outs in the eighth for me to feel that way.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, I I I huddled under the desk because it
was prior to that, Padre series that I said Monti
and Jason were freaking out for no reason whatsoever. That
once you come through the weekend and you sweep that series,
you're two up on San Diego, which they did, and
then they lost to the Rockies and it hasn't been
immediately lost.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
To the Rockies after that. Oh, so annoying. They're so annoying.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
All right, what'd you hate from the weekend? Manzi?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So this is what I hate right now, is like,
now everybody thinks they're an expert in fantasy football, and
so you I'm annoyed that everyone's like running back, running back,
running back, bunning back.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Dab it.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
You're just doing that because you've read about it when
you know now you can't like it's it's frustrating.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
I just did a draft yesterday that I forgot about,
but I did it.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
It's frustrating because I'm like, you just you went down
and like dove deep into running backs because you read
that you need to get the running backs early on.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
In these rounds. It's so annoying.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Everybody everybody has the same plan, the same game plan,
when before it wasn't like that.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Now everyone's game plan is the same. Running backs running backs,
running backs.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
It is interesting. It's annoying because I do think in
fantasy football and when we look at the NFL and
we see the value of receivers right, and we think
that receivers like Jamar Chase is overtaken. There was a
time when in fantasy football the first eight picks would
be running backs. Now it's Jamar Chase is in that mix.
But I think in a weird way, it's made running
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backs even more valuable than they were before because you
have to get a good one that can do both
run and catch. So I understand your frustration.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
It's just I just am like annoyed with my all
of my teams. I'm like, this is not the team
I wanted. But it causes a ripple effect. If you
did this, well, I gotta go get this. I gotta
go dive deep into the running backs as well, because
you're all jumping the gun.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
You'll do a draft, you'll end up with Molik Neighbors
and Brian Thomas and you're like, great, that's awesome. I
picked at the back end. And then you get your
draft rade and draft grade is what I tried to say,
and then you're like C plus like what oh great
or d by the way, I know she got she
has Caleb Johnson from the Steelers, the rookie from Iowa,
because she made up a quarterback earlier and made Caleb.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
I just thought that was a generic name.
Speaker 7 (37:12):
One thing I'm disappointed with that Monsey. She informed us
before the show that she saw Weapons this weekend. I did,
and Weapons is, like, you know, was the rage for
a couple of weeks. It's everywhere on TikTok and Twitter.
And I don't think that you could see weapons and
not either love or hated it. In other words, there
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really isn't a middle ground with that movie. It either
offends the senses or you love it. And he didn't
include it, So are you in the middle ground here?
Speaker 4 (37:39):
I was trying to keep it sports related.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
To the sports, right, but I would tell you I
really liked it, but I love scary.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
I wish it was scarier. I thought it was more
of a horror movie. It's not a horror movie. I
don't I wouldn't say that was a.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Horror movie because psychological Yeah, And I think it was
advertised as a horror movie. So I was disappointed on
that sense of it. But I really liked it. I
wanted more. I wanted to know where that lady came from.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Why does she have?
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Did we just become a show that, you know what,
They're gonna talk about sports, but hey, they're also going
to talk about pop culture. They do a little bit
about lend check on our new show. That's what we're
gonna You know what, I got a new show launching
next week. It's gonna be a little bit of this,
a little bit of that. You know, everybody's happy. I
wish I had a weapon when you guys talk about weapons.
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Because Jason has sent me like four or five tiktoks,
I've told them I haven't watched one of them because
and I want my algorithm to be filled with horror flicks.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
It's not horror like.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
I just want people redoing their lawn and digging out
enormous rocks from those lawns. That's all that I want
on TikTok. Guess what we found a huge boulder. Now
we have to get all of this equipment out of
out of the law. You know what I hate. What
I hate is when chain restaurants failed to live up
to their ex I'll tell you what I'll tell you
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who's having a twenty twenty five It is Chili's. Chilies
is Yeah, Chilies is on the bounce back. The Chilies
is the place to be. Yeah, right now, right.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Just what they're veggie burger phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
See, and I'm so mad that they took off the
original chicken crispers from their menu. But now everybody's like,
oh the mozzarella.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Oh yes, they're like this va so like the size
of my forehead.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Shonky, They're giant, and yeah, they're delicious.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
My luggage got delayed from the flight back from the
Midwest to LA on Saturday. There was another flight coming
in two hours later. We said, let's go grab something
to eat. We'll get my bags when they come in
on the flight. The chain restaurant that we went to atrocious.
It was awful. It was bad, doubled up yesterday. Nobody
wanted to cook. It was hot as you know what outside.
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Let's just order a pizza. There's not a lot of
Mama popped pizza places around where I live, so you
got to go with the chains. Went with a chain,
completely awful. No one was happy.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Damn it. Shack.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah, can restaurants be I didn't name the name. I
didn't name the name, but yeah, yes, but I'll tell
you just step up your game like Chili's did, Like
it's about time.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yes, yes, I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
I've gone to Chili's recently with a friend and I
was like, man, I hadn't been here in years.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
Their chips in salsa was phenomenal. Like I was into it.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Yeah, they're on the comeback. All right, Chris Braffett, I'm.
Speaker 9 (40:24):
Gonna try to bring this back to sports best I can.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
All right, well, we talk about everything here.
Speaker 9 (40:30):
Klein de Bor is not seeing the light of heaven.
He will never see the light of heaven. And I
think a tarmac episode is absolutely If anyone lost the
most from this weekend, it might be Kaylen de Bor.
There's no patience in Alabama. And after watching that game,
I totally get it. That was listless. That was awful,
and yet somehow that's still not the thing I hated
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the most because this is gonna keep happening as Alabama
keeps falling into being in nothing, which it was nothing
between and Bear Bryant, here's the staff from.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Me and Stalls did win a national championship, but oh.
Speaker 9 (41:05):
Yeah, sure, sure every one of Alabama's last eleven road
losses featured a field storming, and that's exactly what Florida
State did. Storm to the field. We're reaching like Michigan
in the two thousands. Level of this program is listless.
You don't need to storm them, but we're going to
storm you anyway because you have been a thorn in
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our patchuxas for over a decade and a half. Like
this is not going to be an enjoyable fall for Alabama.
It's just going to be annoying.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I think that we will come to appreciate Nick Saban's
legacy in Tuscaloosa more and more and just how difficult
it was and for him to dominate in a conference
that was the top conference in college football for much
of his ten uere. It's going to be an amazing run.
And whoever fills killin De Boores shoes, that's going to
try to fill Nick saban shoes. It is going to
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have a tough time. It is a tough, tough task
for anybody not named Nick Saban. There. It is love
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podcast for Fox Sports. Good friend r J Young joins us.
Speaker 10 (43:14):
Hello, RJ, and how are you doing that?
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Great? Great? We are having a great spirited discussion about
what transpired in Columbus on Saturday afternoon. Are you buying
low on arch Manning or could there be more to
come from what we saw from arch this past Saturday.
Speaker 10 (43:35):
I think most people, given a few days time, will
come back to there's more to come from arch Manny
who one simple fat He's not going to play Ohio
State for the next eleven weeks, right, everybody that they
play for the most art is either going to be
at that level or below that level. At that level
and think about Georgia right after that, I think we're
(43:56):
going to see the dude grow up. I think that
it was unnerving to play and front of that many
hostile fans. I think that while we were really taking
a look at what Julian Dale was going to do
in his first ever start, this is Archie's first start
against a class college football opponent. I think it's more
upsetting as at Taxa fan, not what arch did or
didn't do. But they didn't they got shoot up at
(44:16):
the goal line twice, that they were uncharacteristically limped and
thought in the run game when they needed to be better.
That I think would haunt them. But I'm buying on
archs meeting. I think he's going to be a great player.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Do you give more credit to maybe Matt Patricia or
do you think it was nerves and his first time
out in a hostile environment.
Speaker 9 (44:38):
I think it's got to be a bit of both.
Speaker 10 (44:40):
Honestly, I think that Matt Patritchie is an outstanding to
fits the coordinator. And while we can talk about arching
his nerves, one of the other things I think is
important to reference here is that's a really great defense
he's played too. I don't just mean the guy called
in the places. I mean Caleb Down For some he
is the best player in college football. I think he's
the second best player in college football and the best
player in college football mostly all then checks and Jeremiah
(45:01):
Smith by that text of defense, Argo League played out standing.
Jermaine Matty, former five star and number one of this
he made the interceptions running that route to win and
we go. I think it's a bit of both, and
I think when both those things come together, it's going
to be really difficult to beat that team that said
still up fourteen to seven, not forty nine to seven.
Fourteen at seven.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (45:20):
R J.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
Young joining us here on Fox Sports Radio talking about
the weekend that was in college football. She's Monzi Blago.
So I'm dan byer in for Doug one more on
that part, Like, I want to give Sark the benefit
of the doubt because of where Texas is. They are
a preseason number one. They're bringing in the players, but
you know, we're talking about James Franklin and his porous
(45:41):
record against top five teams and what's expected of Penn State.
Does it? Will it build with Sark because they play
this close game against Ohio State on Saturday, they lose
to him, and what was a close game in the
Cotton Bowl in the Long Horns previous last game of
the season. At any point do you think he starts
to build on Sark or maybe we start to have
(46:03):
conversations around him.
Speaker 10 (46:06):
No, he's got one of the coolest seats in college
football as well as I'm concerned that Texas program was
down and down bad and he got there. They made
two consecutive College Football Playoff appearances, they made two consecutive
conference Championship game appearances, and they won one in the
last couple of years. And all he's done is recruit
is behind off to make sure that they keep reloading
(46:26):
on that offense and that defense. I think nobody in
Texas is happy about the loss in Ohio State. But
I also look at Dablis Queen and Clinton, right, they
took up pretty tough loss this weekend too. Nobody wants
to see Dablins Tweeny get out of Clinton. I think
it's going to be very much like that for tactics.
They have an opportunity to put together a great one
loss record.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Let's move on to that top ten matchup between LSU
and Clemson, where I think no one really expected the
young LSU team to take on this established defense with
Clemson and come out and win.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
What did you make of it? Were you surprised?
Speaker 10 (47:05):
I was not surprised, Monty. I actually thought this was
going to be a close game. I picked Clemson a
win because coming into Death Valley is very difficult. To
your point, that is what I think would have been unnervy.
But in the way that say Texas was a bit
unnerved by Ohio State. The boys from the body you
just were not Kayden Durham would outstanding run the ball.
You saw what kind of seed they had on the outside.
(47:26):
I don't know how Barran Brownie's TD was taking off
the board because that looks like a TV on Mars.
So it's a much closer game than it should have
been on the scoreboards. Because Garret nuh Meyer's dude, he's
the players. Their old person's the dude, he's the players.
I think the defenses cancel each other out, which saw
was one guy got help from his office in Garrett
Nutmeyer and one guy did not in Kate club Nick,
(47:47):
and that ended up being the difference in the game.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Oh, Jay Young joining us here on Fox Sports A Radio.
What I find funny is the conversation about the SEC
as a whole, because you have LSU getting the win
against Clemson, and I hate I'm not making this up
for the sake of of just bringing this to you,
R Jay. I heard people say disappointing weekend, But it's
because Texas doesn't be at Ohio State and Alabama doesn't
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meet Florida State. Now I can give Texas a pass.
Can we give Alabama a pass for what happened in
Tallahassee on Saturday?
Speaker 10 (48:20):
No, we can't give it a pass because we're comparing
Kalen's the boor to Nick Saban, which was always going
to be the case for the person that followed Mick
Saban at Alabama. So now we are back to an
era that I remember when I was in high school.
Now I was one to college. Alabama ain't nothing and
nobody we all think that we can get them. Now
Vanderbilt Scott in Kentucky's looking like, hey, that's meat over there,
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and Florida State said foo. And not only did they
say food, Tommy Cassolano's got out here and said, I
ain't scared a staban ain't there to save them. And
they stood on business and scare of it now. Taylor
de Boor is fourteen and four against unwrecked opponent. Nick
Staden was two hundred and thirty and four against unraked opponents. No,
it ain't fun to be kayling to Boor right now.
(49:05):
It's really not BAMA fans that had it, I think.
And one will walk like this one to an unranked opponent. Yeah,
they might get job.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Does he lose his job? Could he lose his job
after this year? This is this is, by the way,
I feel dirty asking this question on September first and
just threw Sark under the bus after week one. It's
not my attention, r J, but Alabama's different, like, could
could there be could there be some some rumblings.
Speaker 10 (49:33):
Alabama is different. But I'm gonna put Kayloring to bore
on the spot that Brint Denibles has been pass Okay,
That's what I'm gonna do, all right. I do you
know how much Oklahoma means to me? Right? Yes, Fanny
me comes up an Odu fans and there are lots
of Oklahoma fans that want to see Brint Vinibles out
of his seat. I think that they got a little
bit more of a Harrick trigger at Bama because of
(49:54):
the kind of success that had over the past twenty years.
But I don't think he loses his job this year.
I think they're gonna win eight nine games if they
win ten, to make the playoffs. That's why we changed
the seed, right, We changed the seating because they got
left out. We have tried to been over backwards to
make this DAMA program remain the Bama program that it was.
Savan with Saban and Kaylen Boord seems to be held.
(50:15):
Make sure that we can rid that notion all the deaf.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
It's amazing, it truly is. The expectations and whoever followed
Nick Saban was going to have to deal with this,
and while you thought it could be an advantage, I'm
not sure if it is, even if you're bringing in
the talent that he's bringing.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
In nearly an impossible task.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Yeah. Absolutely, a couple of more more before we let
you go. Miami survives against Notre Dame last night. It
looked like the Canes were in control before a late
push from Notre Dame. Were you impressed by Carson Beck's
performance against the fighting Irish.
Speaker 10 (50:46):
I was very inpressed by Carson Beck's performance. One of
the reasons I was that I had J. Carter and
tarried again. And what it came down to for me
is one guy is an experienced starter who is played
in games of this magnitude before and is used to winning.
To remember, Carton Beck got against Clinton last year, and
it's didn't look that dissimilar at Georgia last year that
it did this year. And he's got a budding star
(51:07):
in Malachy Poniet wide receivers, CJ. Cars got good, he's
got moxie, but those intentional groundings that he had the
waves in which the game team to speed up for him,
and frankly, that's plus seven that Miami had. That's gonna
be the thing that I think turns them into kind
of program I think keeps for the Agency Championship. They're
asked the up front. I did not expect Ruben Daines
to basically build a house in the backfield next to you,
(51:30):
Jay car while also making it easier on him by
not running the ball agains Jeremiah up. Very excited about
what Carson Beck can be at Miami, but you know
it's Miami. We thought they were gonna be great. Last
year they had a number one kick, so didn't make
the playoffs. That's the pass. Now can you make the
playoffs at Miami?
Speaker 3 (51:47):
One game left today North Carolina taking on TCU Bill
Belichick making his debut as a college coach for North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (51:57):
What are you expecting not just for today's game, for
the season for Belichick?
Speaker 10 (52:03):
I dare him to do better than the last high
profile coach to become a Pali War coach, not even
palisfour head coaching experience, and that's beyond standing to Colorado.
He does better than four and eight, I'm gonna give
him the benefit of the doubt next years. If he
wins ninety, I'm gonna give him benefts of the doubt
and have a heistand trope winner. But tonight they're playing
Texas Christian. This is a Texas Christian team that Deon
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Standars beat in his first game as a power for
head coach of Colorado on the road. I might add
this game is in Chapel Hill. That's a very minimum.
You need to beat Josh Huber and Sunny Dackson Texas Christians.
Otherwise I'm gonna start looking at you and ask him
why did they pay you ten million dollars? Then you've
haven't done much than anything. While Sanders at nine wins,
(52:44):
then it's the top. The Big Twelve had a eisen
cochie winner first round pick. This is not the NFL.
This is college football. We do it a little bit
differently as easy to win here as many people think
it is.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Well, I thank If North Carolina wins tonight, it'd be
a pretty darn good weekend for the ACC with the
Florida State victory. Of course, you mentioned the Clemson loss,
but it would be a good weekend for that conference
if North Carolina could pull it off with the Miami
victory as well over Notre Dame RJ. We love talking
to you. We love watching you. Keep up the good work.
We'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 10 (53:14):
And Manty, thanks so much for having a later day.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Do you want to draw a question? Okay, so this
is what we've done. We've thrown a bunch of questions
into this. We don't even have a box or a hat.
We've got a bunch of a bunch of questions thrown
out that. I wrote that, Manzi wrote that, Jason Stewart wrote,
and Chris Prefett. In fact, Chris Prefett has just finished
(53:37):
his questions, and we've just got random questions that we
want to answer about the upcoming NFL season. So there
are twelve questions at all. Monzy gets the first crack.
All right, Manzi, there's there's twelve, twelve pieces of paper.
I would put it into my new hat, but my
new hat is I don't want you guys putting your
(53:58):
grimy hands into my cat.
Speaker 9 (54:00):
I have like a Dodger's mini helmet in here.
Speaker 4 (54:04):
Could be dre walk right by. That didn't even get it.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
Okay, I didn't even see it. All right, first question,
let's see what it's one of hers.
Speaker 4 (54:11):
I could tell already by the writing.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
So why not. Let's get a different one, right, since
I know there, Okay, here we go. Are the Chiefs
finally going to have everything catch up to them?
Speaker 9 (54:22):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (54:23):
Wow?
Speaker 9 (54:24):
Actually, I think that's my question to Chris all right.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Oh, I thought we were keeping it secret.
Speaker 4 (54:29):
I didn't know that I was not.
Speaker 9 (54:31):
But I thought you said that was like her handwriting.
Speaker 4 (54:33):
No, no, no, no, I literally did not grab you
guys wrote the same question. Yeah, are the Chiefs finally
going to have everything catch up to them? I don't
think so.
Speaker 3 (54:44):
Call me crazy, but I think Patrick Mahomes has a
chip on his shoulder, and I think he's going to
be on a revenge tour to prove that he has
not lost his step, because last year, all most of
us did was criticized a team that was ten and
one ten and to whatever they were ending fifteen into.
We were not satisfied with how the Chiefs were winning
(55:06):
last year single score games. I get all that Travis
Kelce may have lost his step, but I don't think
Patrick Mahomes has, and there is no reason for me
to think.
Speaker 4 (55:18):
That everything is going to catch up to them.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
Here's the toughest thing for me to pick against the
Chiefs when it comes down to it is how well
they operate in late games.
Speaker 4 (55:25):
Since, yeah, they know what they're doing, yes they do.
Speaker 2 (55:28):
They understand how to work the clock. When they have
a lead, it's done near impossible to get the football
back from them. Now. Granted they've had some clean escapes
and maybe once in a while we've seen airs, but
I would say on a performance rate compared to the
other thirty one teams, they just know how to win
those close games and if they're ahead or behind, they
figure out a way to do it. And that's ultimately
(55:49):
a tip of the cap to Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.
So I think that's what makes it so difficult to
pick against them.
Speaker 3 (55:55):
Yeah, there's no Maybe a year from now will be
like okay, but there's no reason for us aside from
we're just angry at how they won, Angry that it
wasn't more flashy, more like we had seen in previous years.
Speaker 4 (56:09):
It was just a little sloppy, but they still won.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Yeah. I really hope they don't go to the Super
Bowl again. I just I just I want a different
end zone in the super Bowl, just a different color,
different different painting. That's all that I asked the Bengals
in Super Bowl fifty six was a bit refreshing. It
wasn't the big Yellow with the Chiefs red. I just
want a different end zone super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (56:28):
I don't know that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
So they can win, they can make the playoffs. I
just don't want them to go to the super Bowl.
She's mancy, I'm Dan. We've got eleven more questions, and
I know that there are only two of Chris Burfett's
left in the in the Dodger helmet,
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