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September 4, 2025 • 47 mins

On a Thursday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug welcomes in the start of the new NFL season and talks about the Eagles journey to defend their championship.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:30):
I hope you're having a great day. Do you know
what day it is today?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Do you.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Do?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
You? Hmm?

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Oh, you don't? Oh Sam? Do you know what day
today is?

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Today's Thursday?

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Wrong answer? Do you know what day today is?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Jase two?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Wrong?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Opening day of football?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Baseball? Guy goes with opening Day. That's just not it's
partial credit given, partial credit, given, partial credit, partial credit.
That's what it is. Partial credit given. Yeah, buyer, what
days today?

Speaker 5 (01:18):
Let's kick off to the NFL season. It's game day,
game day.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Game day, and and let's just be honest. If you're
not a Cowboy fan, there's something about watching the Cowboys lose, right,
There's just I don't know what it is. There's there's
something about watching the Cowboys lose, and I don't want
to guarantee it because again, usually the way it works
is when you think something's a sure bet, it's just not,

(01:46):
especially in sports. That's the beauty of sports. But I mean,
the likelihood is feels like, you know, Cowboys trade away
their best defensive player by by a fairly substantial amount.
They're in this kind of purgatory of they're fine, but
I no one thinks they are really good. It's game day,

(02:11):
it's Cowboys, it's Eagles, it's the NFL. It's oh my gosh,
I gotta set my fantasy team. It's I gotta, I gotta,
I gotta sit down front of the TV. Wait a second,
hold on, it's Thursday night. What network's not Wait this
is not the streaming week? Oh my gosh, and all
of these things. Now. The great thing is you only

(02:31):
have really one big name addition to the Cowboys, so
it's not like there's all new pieces. Eagles mostly the
same crew that we knew in the Super Bowl. But
it's game there's something too. The NFL seeds to give
it off, and we should congratulate ourselves.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
We made it.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
We made it. We no longer have to feign that
we care, although I do think she makes the show
about Angel Reese, all right, don't We don't have to
pretend to care about anything other than football. I really, Doug,
can you talk more football? Because I like football? And
normally we tell our bosses like I'd like to, but

(03:12):
it's just like, what do you want to me? Make
something up? Here's Nick Sirianni, another really likable dude. I
just he feels warm, fuzzy. A lot of people really
dig Dick Siriani.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
That's a joke.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
I was asked about the banner unveiling ceremony before tonight's game.

Speaker 6 (03:26):
You guys are emphasized and moving on from last year,
the last Banner Night in twenty eighteen. It's famous that
the fans booed the Eagles at halftime because they weren't
happy with the way things were going, albeit it was
Banner nighte How do you feel about the fact that
even though it is Bannernite for you guys, the fans
will still have the standard of performing and winning at.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
A high level.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Yeah, I didn't know it was Banner Night. We won't
be out for that.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
You won't be out for that out. Yeah, the only
thing that makes it less fun to watch the Eagles
kick the crap out of the Cowboys is that Nick
Sirianni is the coach of the Eagles, right, Who's with
me on that one? Now, he's done a very good
job and I don't know how much credit he deserves

(04:13):
or whatever, but like team's generally been really really good.
He's taking he takes on this weird like alter ego,
almost pro wrestling type character. If the if the Ultimate
Warrior ever needed a football coach. By the way, Ultimate
Warrior still love this earth? Right? Do we have any

(04:33):
update we know about Hulk getting the call companies ago?
He's he's passed. He died too right after he was
inducted into the Hall of Fame. He was waiting on
that thing. Okay, so what wrestlers are important now? I
don't even know. But if they ever needed a coach, well,

(04:54):
Rick Flair is kind of an entity end to his own.
But if the wwe never needed like a coach to
be a coach for a wrestler, but people would in
fact cheer him getting sup plexed, I think siriantta be
that guy. On the other hand, it's been really successful,
so it's hard to be critical of him whatever he's doing,
however bad. His initial press conference was, however cheesy. Some

(05:16):
of this tough guy stuff is it doesn't matter because
he's got a really good football team and they seem
to continue to play hard for him. Well, we can
diminish all we want, you can't diminish the fact the
guy's got a tremendous record. And then you know, you
have just like last weekend with college we got kind

(05:36):
of the sort of never ending football weekend. Only Saturday
is a break from the NFL. As Tomorrow night you
got Chiefs and Chargers from Brazil, and then of course
full slate Sunday, Sunday night games, Monday night games. Let's go.
We are back. And I do think you have a

(05:58):
couple of great parts about tonight, like it just so
happened that the Cowboys had their docuseries, made the Pickens trade,
and then make the trade for Michah Parsons. Granted he's
not there. I think it unequivocally hurts them even if
Fank Frank Clark's become a really good player, Okay, but

(06:18):
they're not as good. But it does give us what
Jay Stewd desires, well, JJ's student desires two things. One
is the opposite of whatever BS is, right, that's what
you want to hear. But the other thing is wants content.
We search for content. I give you content, all right.
Jerry Jones said we might be better without MICHAEH. Parsons.
Let's see Jerry Jones acts like Dak Prescott is worth

(06:42):
every penny.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Now you got in two stud wide receivers. Oh yeah,
By the way, they hired Brian Schottenheimer wasn't on anybody's
list to be the next head coach of the Cowboys.
On the other side, you got Siriani. You got who like. Look,
I'm not a I don't think he's some elite thrower,

(07:05):
but his teams win and however kind of planned out
or I mean, he's he's got. He's kind of the
Billy Dee Williams of the NFL right in that he's
cool as he he just has this kind of cool vibe.
I don't know if people like that or see through it.
I'm just like, guys seems to win, seems to figured

(07:27):
it out.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
He's one of the most talked about quarterbacks. But not
because people think he's great. It's because people are trying
to I don't want to diminish that he's winning, but
he's not as good as these other guys. But he
keeps winning, and so isn't that what it's about. He
had Howie Roseman who runs the team. But remember he
lost power like a decade ago, and then after a

(07:50):
couple of years, Chip Kelly regained power, made a bunch
of moves. Now they got this loaded up roster. Last
time they lost coordinators after they went to Super Bowl,
they were a mess, even though they were at a
good record. Now that then they now they get more
new coordinators. So for in Jay Stew's man, do I
want good content? We have it. Plus you have just

(08:12):
the age old joy of very likely watching the Cowboys lose,
balanced out with the nobody really likes the Eagles and
they don't seem to care all under the big umbrella
of the NFL's pack. They miss anything, Dan, I don't
think I missed anything. There's probably something.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
I miss firds and I and to think you covered it.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Well, okay, appreciate that, appreciate it. I'm like, actually, I'm
super excited, super excited. Oh what's the what's the lead
in song? You want to talk about something I've never
cared about and understood? Is it still carry Underwood? Or
did they jazz it up and do something else?

Speaker 5 (08:49):
I think you can still carry underwood?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Still carry on, Yes, still carry.

Speaker 7 (08:53):
This is the best of the Done Dot Leaf Show
on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
What up would you?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Dog?

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Godleeb Show? FuG Sports Radio. I hope you're doing great.
I hope you're doing really really well. I really do, Sam.
What day is it?

Speaker 5 (09:19):
It is?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (09:20):
It is Thursday? What professional football season? Come on, dude,
just play a long I am. I'm giving you giving
direct information. Opening day football, opening day a professional You.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Won't have any fun. It is opening day. It's first
pitch of the football season.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
Dodger, I think I said tip off.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Day, dy dag dy.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
It's also a Thursday, which means that lots of people
do the hashtag Thursday, but we do the opposite, or
sort of the opposite. We call it. Don't call it
throwback Thursday.

Speaker 7 (10:05):
Don't call it a throwback throw back Thursday.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Jay su, what's the year?

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Thank you?

Speaker 6 (10:13):
Doug.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
I'll take it from here, Doug.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
I'll take it from here.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I want everybody to go back to nineteen ninety six.
If you're sitting in your car and nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
So much good hair, then.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Well, what is it? Twenty nine years ago? Twenty nine
years ago? The Dallas Cowboys went on the road to
face the Eagles in September of nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Now Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
For those who didn't see the documentary, I'm going to
fill in the blanks a little bit here. Think about
what the Cowboys were doing in September of nineteen ninety six.
They had just won their third Super Bowl in four years,
but boy did they have an off season. Michael Irvin
uh settled a case where he had a bunch of

(11:01):
coke and hookers at the White House. He settled a
case and was suspended by the NFL. So the Cowboys
played the Eagles in September of nineteen ninety six without
the playmaker, but they pulled out the wins. Still good
for the Cowboys, but he had all the notables Troy Aikman,
Deon Sanders, and At Smith in that game. The quarterback

(11:22):
of the nineteen ninety six Philadelphia Eagles that night was
Rodney Pete. Ironically, is doing local radio in Los Angeles.
Right now. You enjoy him and his wife, Holly Robinson
Pete on many reality ventures. Great game, great year for

(11:43):
the Cowboys until it wasn't as their streak of Super
Bowls came to an end. Dan Byer, what do you
remember most from that sports year of nineteen ninety six?

Speaker 5 (11:54):
What a great year it was, nineteen ninety six. It
would have been the second half of my freshman year
in college and then the early part of the sophomore year.
I believe nineteen ninety six was that the first year
that the Ravens we're in the National Football League as well,
and in moving from Cleveland to Baltimore. Sounds right, Yeah,

(12:18):
somewhere around that time, correct, Dan, Thank you very much.
It was quite the change. And the only reason that
I remember that is because I lived with two of
my friends in college were from Cleveland and they were
just distraught that the Browns were leaving and the Baltimore
Ravens started to play in nineteen ninety six. Do you

(12:41):
want to know what happened in the world of golf
in nineteen ninety six? Always the standout from nineteen ninety six,
it was a non Ryder Cup year happened in Augusta, Georgia,
in early April, second week, in fact, the second Sunday,
so when Greg Norman had the ultimate collapse as Nick

(13:04):
Faldo captured his third green jacket. So Nick Faldo wins
the Masters. Greg Norman's let's just face it legacy cemented
with that collapse in the final day. Chuck it sure was.
Mark Brooks won the PGA Championship. Steve Jones won the
US Open that year, Tom Layman breaking through with an

(13:27):
Open Championship win. That was golf in nineteen ninety six.
M golf, hmmm.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Hmmm, Well nineteen ninety six in the NBA was well,
the Bulls taking down the SuperSonics, right, and that series
was interesting, right because Bulls Bulls jumped out to a
three nothing lead and then you know, Gary Payton said,

(13:56):
now I got to start guarding Michael Jordan and it
got a little close, sir. But some of the names
that you remember, George Carl was the coach of the Sonics,
Gary Payton, Sean Kemp, the rainmaker, and of course this
was this was the was this the third of the
three peat? Was beginning of first, first and the second

(14:17):
three peat Versu the second three peat nineteen ninety six
Bulls Bulls end up winning the title.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Guys, it was an Olympic year in Atlanta, and everyone
remembers the bombing and Centennial Park in Atlanta. I remember
the pride of the Baylor Bearers. I remember the wacko
from Waco, Michael Johnson, and yes, I just made up
that nickname because of alliteration. Michael Johnson won the two

(14:49):
hundred and the four hundred. Carrie Strugg was also in
that Olympics as the as the now notorious and controversial
coach Well, I forget his name, Dan's very good with it?

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Was it?

Speaker 5 (15:02):
Bella Coroli?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Belli hugging Kerry Shrug as she stuck a landing with
a broken ankle. Everyone remembers brained ankle. Oh, okay, sprain
is worse than a break. That's what everyone told me
when I rolled my ankle. Yeah, it would have been
better if you broke it. Yeah. I know, you're the
eight hundredth person that has told me, thank.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
You, sprain worse than a break.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Though.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Remember I had not heard that. It was you said. I.
I've never heard that before. Sprain ankles worse than a break.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yes, longer to heel. Never properly heels. You're always going
to be dealing with that sprain. If you break it,
it can heal completely and quicker.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
If you break it, you buy it. M I learned
that growing up, going to seven eleven.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
What can he break in seven eleven? Like a beer bottled?
I don't know what candy bear I was. I kind
of did it. I was. I thought that was really funny.
Until I went seven eleven.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
I thought it was good. Might break any I mean
something famous happened in Iowa nineteen ninety six. Let's see,
I thought, I hate to break this to you. I
think we did ninety six.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
Oh yeah, well we've actually done every year.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
I think we did ninety six, like really recently, and
maybe Jay stew was out.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
I can tell you this. Iowa made it to the
NCAA tournament. They played in Tempe, Arizona in first round play.
J R kotch. I think Andre Woolridge was a member
of that team.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
No, Andre Woolwrich was gone, was he?

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Jr?

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Visited jer visited Notre Dame with me. Fell asleep at
a party on her Visit was a bunch of party
now his son. I think he plays in Iowa.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
Right.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Jared was the second round pick of the New York.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Knickerbo After the coaching change, they have like a whole
new team.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Oh that's right.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
He No, some of them stayed. I had a couple,
you know, I can't remember where he went and we stayed.
I think he stayed.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
I think Andre Woolridge was the MVP of the ninety
five ninety six WHOA, I was wrong? Iyowa Hawkeye's team guys.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Haw guys. Andre Wilward's kind of a weird game. Not
gonna lie to you, really big strong point guard. That's
serious situation. NI scenario. Uh you know. Nineteen ninety six
in baseball, I was all I remember about it was
that the Yankees won. But wasn't that their first title

(17:30):
with Cheeter? Was another first of the of the titles.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yes, Jeter was a rookie or maybe a second year guy.
Jim Wertz was The one name I remember from that
World Series.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Was that when the kid at the Baltimore game caught
the ball in the outfield and the what was the kid's.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Name, Jeffrey Meyer.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Jeffrey Meyer was that Jeffrey Meyer year.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Sounds right, maybe around that time.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Okay, they played the Orioles in the in the ALCS,
so that was what it was almost positive, I want
to say that was game one. How am I doing?
Nobody knows? How man knows.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
I remember Brett Favre got his first and only Super
Bowl ring in the season of ninety six, and of
course that was the Packers team and the quarterback that
was supposed to just run off a bunch of Super Bowls.
They made it back to the next year, only to
lose to the Broncos and then far have never touched
the Super Bowl again.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
What was what was in their headphones when they took
the took the field to one?

Speaker 5 (18:32):
By the way, No, we don't know yet. We don't
know just yet. Because ninety six, remember when I mentioned
the Ravens that they came into the league. It's also
the second year of the Jaguars and Panthers.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
They wait to like the conference finals.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
Right, both of them made it to the NFC Championship
Game in AFC Championship Game, ultimately losing. I was at
that NFC Championship game at Lambeau between the Panthers and Packers. Really, yes,
that would have been in the game would have been
in ninety seven, but again, from the ninety six season
is what we what we really care about. But it
was also, yes, the emergence of the expansion teams, and

(19:09):
I believe the rule was the expansion teams could sign
regular free agents. So I thought that was the rule,
and then the NFL changed like, well, that can't happen again,
because these teams were really good right away and they're like,
all right, you got to take your lumps. At some point.
I think they changed some of the roster building rules
because of the Jacksonville and Carolina success that season.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Panthers and Jaguars, two expansion teams going to the Conference
Shatle game in their second year in existence. Was a
lot of things. It was coincidental. It was maybe maybe
uh too fast, too quick. One thing it wasn't, guys,
was ironic, don't you think? Alanis Mori sat third single

(20:01):
off her Jagged Little Pill album that was a breakout
album in nineteen ninety five. I consider it a female
grunge album, which is Iowa Sam agrees with me on
that one, so good front to back this song, though
she points out in her lyrics, a bunch of things
that are like unfortunate, they're coincidental there maybe tragically bad luck, Yeah, unfortunate,

(20:28):
but none of them are ironic. There's nothing ironic about
rain on Ryan on your wedding Day. That's not ironic, son, No,
it sucks, it's unfortunate. But the textbook definition of irony
does not have anything to do uh with those with
that comparison.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Describes a situation where is in contrast between what is
expected and what actually happens. Statement that means the opposite
of the literal meaning. So rain in your wedding day? Yes,
that would that would not be ironic. What's the other ones?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
It's a free when you've already paid again, that sucks.
You're out money and you found out that it's free.
Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit, but it's not ironic.
And a black fly in your chardonage it's just gross.
It's just bad luck and it's gross, but it's not ironic.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
You know.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
I think I think she was actually playing us because
she did this so that we'd be like it's ironic,
that everything in her song called ironic is not ironic.
So it was actually just like she was just playing
three D chests.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, alantismore Set write the song.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
I'll let Sam venture on that one, but I will
say this.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
A death traffic traffic jamminari late, also not ironic.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
A death throw pardon two minutes too late, Like the song,
instead of being called ironic, should have been things that suck.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Pardon me dor, He's dead, He's.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Dead ironic Written by Alanismorsett and Glenn Ballard.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Glenn Ballard, I bumped into Glenn writes ballads like his
name is Glenn, but there's no way his actual name is.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Glennvalach ballad, Your thing of Ballad a ballad.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
Yeah, I almost bumped into Alanis Morris set in these hallways.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Wow, yes, that would have been ironic.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
And I'll say this, I think, yeah, kind of the
the littlest thing, like we both came around the corner
at the same time, and just that two second interaction
where she was polite and said, oh, you know, excuse me,
guess what I've thought Alanis Morissett. And she probably is

(22:38):
a lovely woman, but just that interaction I've had with her,
I've always held her in a high regard because of that.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
But she's Canadian, so she's very polite.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
She says the same thing about you in movies. This
was back in the era where Will Smith dominated the
fourth July none as much as the box office smash
Independence Day. Independence Day it was the number one movie.
Think about this. Of the top ten movies, I believe
five of them have been made into sequels, right, Twister

(23:10):
was number two. That's been a sequel. Mission Impossible. That
was the first of the remake of the Mission Impossible,
the tom Cruise series, The Rock. I have Sir Sean
Conry on The Rock.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
I saw that.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I love The Rock. Hold Up, it does hold up.
I think I recommend it. I wanted to watch it
with Christina's son because we were going to go see Alcatraz.
And that's great Alcatraz movie.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
It's a rip roaring good time.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
It really is.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Now, well, instead you'll get see The US Open tomorrow
where we'll see if Novak Djokovic can escape from Alkaraz. Yeah,
there you go, Nutty. Professor Jerry Maguire complete me, you complete.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
My My My favorite movie that year was Fargo.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Francis McDermott one for Best Actors in that movie. I
want to say it was one of three Oscars for
Acting A movie that almost nobody saw but was celebrated
was called The English Patient. Anyone in this room ever
see The English No?

Speaker 1 (24:20):
English Patient was one, like, I gotta see that. I
gotta read that book. I gotta see that. Movie won
the Academy Award, didn't.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
It Best Picture?

Speaker 5 (24:28):
Yep?

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Was that like the visual of like the plane that
crashes in the desert? Or am I thinking like choclat No?

Speaker 1 (24:35):
I think no chuck at was really good?

Speaker 2 (24:37):
No?

Speaker 1 (24:38):
That was where. Yeah, it was a plane that crashed
in the desert. And it's the story of a nurse who
takes care of this guy.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Right sounds right? Uh? Raeth finds? Is that his name Rafe? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:50):
No, Ray finds Raife?

Speaker 5 (24:54):
Like I don't think it's.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
There's a joke circle that they he's his name is
Ralph finds. His name is Ray fines Ray like Raymond.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Ray finds money.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
Everybody loves speaking of Ralph? Was Kansas?

Speaker 1 (25:16):
I think that was ninety seven.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
By Georgia in the second round? Yes, that was that year, Yes, yes,
thank you?

Speaker 1 (25:24):
And then Syracuse be and then Syracuse be Georgia, right yes,
and then Syracuse played in the National Championship Game and
we I was a Notre Dame that year. We had
Syracuse down fifteenth a half at their place last game
in the regular season six with a minute ago you
know what at the carry dom and loss.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
Kansas was upset by uh Syracuse in the Elite eight.
Purdue was the number one seed that in the West Region.
They lost Togia big dog, That's what it was. But
Kansas was upset by Jason Syracuse Orange.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
John Wallace, do you what I mean, Jason Syracuse Orange?

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Jason back Syracuse.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
My favorite team, my favorite team growing up.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
You sho have favorite team growing up to you?

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Do?

Speaker 7 (26:06):
You?

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Dad?

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Live out in Syracuse, right, something like that.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Entire families from the three one five we go, shout
out to.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
The three one, shout out to the three to one
to five.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
I do also want to say this, I say it.
I don't want to pat myself on the back, but
I'm going to because my two NFL notes were actually
a part of the nineteen ninety six Wikipedia page Ravens
leaving and the success of the Jaguars and Panthers. But
one thing that I did not know, this is very surprising.
This is amazing that the NFC Championship game from that

(26:37):
season of the Packers and Panthers. Yes, was the first
time in history that the Cowboys, forty nine Ers, Redskins,
or Rams were not in the game. The first NFC
Championship game was in nineteen seventy. It took until nineteen
ninety six season in the ninety seven game to not
have one of those four teams in the championship game.

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(27:43):
So I'm reading this from the Associated Press. The new
College Sports Commission has cleared more than eighty three hundred
name image and likeness deals worth nearly eighty million dollars.
It said Thursday that it's the first full update that
the new system is working. The Commission, which is in
charge of improving contract approving contracts where six hundred dollars

(28:04):
or more between college athletes and third party companies, said
twenty three and forty two students signed up on its
nil go platform between June eleventh, when it launched, and
August thirty first. Nearly thirty two hundred representatives or agents
have also signed up. The platform was created as part
of the House Settlement, which allows schools to pay athletes
directly for their nil while also offering them the chance

(28:27):
to make money for i'm outside groups. Nil Go is
in charge of analyzing the outside deals.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
It said.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Thirty three one hundred and thirty two deals had not
been cleared to date and seventy five had been resubmitted,
while none had entered arbitration, which is available for parties
who feel their deals were wrongly rejected. Okay, so what
is all what's all that? Main basil? Nobody nobody got

(28:54):
that one. Jase stew might have gotten that one. I
don't know what's all that main Bazil baby. There you go,
there you go, Semi, there you go. What's it all mean?
There's a lot of money, but there's no real context here?

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Right?

Speaker 1 (29:12):
This is like classic like throw out eighty million dollars
and they go eight thousand and three one hundred deals. Uh?
Anybody got a calculator there, right? Even if it was
eight thousand eighty the average deal is what ten grand?

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Right?

Speaker 1 (29:39):
How's my how's my math? I'm much in the munching
damn Byron her YouTube.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
Yeah, give me that. Give me those numbers again, sorry, Doug.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Eighty million dollars divided by eight three hundred.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
Deals, Okay, nine thousand, six hundred and thirty eight.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
About ten grand a deal? Right? But again no context? Right?
Are any of these deals worth a million dollars? And
some are worth ten dollars? Right? Because not all deals
are worth ten thousands? Like it's I actually think what.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
You know?

Speaker 3 (30:17):
What?

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Let me let me do this, Dan. Let me ask
you because you're the biggest college tel fan on this show.
I think I'm a big college weel fan. I would
say that you're bigger, you're more invested. Okay, what do
you think of the back and forth between Gundy and Landing.
From the standpoint of the mention of how well funded.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Organized, I think Oregon takes everything personally, and so I
I don't think that Gundhy was coming from a place
of saltiness. It just doesn't seem to There doesn't seem
to be a reason except if you're just talking about
the nature of the business.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Correct, He's laying out the content like that, we all
talk about this, we all talk about this. We're like, dude,
that's it's like you get with your coaching staff and
you're like, yeah, they got like thirty million dollars, we
got like five. And what he is saying is like
we were just dramatically underfunded the last couple of years,
which is an excuse. Sure, is it accurate? Probably? You know, probably,

(31:24):
I'll give people some some info they don't have. Do
you know Oklahoma State had I think it was like
four straight nights of a concert series called The Boys
from Oklahoma. Baylor had it as well. For one night,
Oklam State announced are going to bring it back, so
they sold out Boone Pickens Stadium for a concert they
never had concerts in it before, and a couple of

(31:45):
local bands and that that made it sort of big.
And if you know red dirt music, that stuff was huge.
It's huge. But they raised I think three and a
half million dollars or their nil fund from the event.
I was told that a week later, all that money
was was paid out to bills they had from last year,

(32:11):
bills they had from last year with like they still
owed kids for nil from This is how they took
care of their bills. It's not they put in the
ky like, hey, let's put it with mounds of other money. Hey,
let's just put it at the top of that amount
of money. Hey, organ, you take it personal because it
is what it is. Hey, if we're honest with ourselves,
nobody goes to organ. If they didn't have Nike and

(32:35):
now the financial support that they have, you just don't.
They created a great football program, and I actually thought,
like Dan Lanning was like, hey, look, if you want
to have be good, you got to support Like all
that's good, but why are you taking it personal? The
fact that you have deeper pockets than most of your opponents,
so you're gonna have more talent than most of your opponents.
Why is that some personal shot at you? Explain it

(33:01):
and you could sit there and go like, well, hey,
Landing came from Georgia. Georgia's the difference in Georgia and
Oregon is Okay, if we went back to the old
school and look SEC schools and Oregon back when Chip
Kelly was there, they were doing some extra stuff, no question.
But the fact is that Georgia, you can get into
a car, never a plane, recruit a team from that state,

(33:23):
and you would be okay, right, state of Georgia, state
of Florida, all the Carolinas are right there, plenty of dudes.
If you were not allowed to recruit outside of the
state of Georgia, you could still win a national championship.
Oregan's not the key, It's not that way. So you
have to create this image with the uniforms, the Nike

(33:45):
Austin's great. Okay, they've thrown a bunch of money back
when you couldn't give players money. They threw money at facility.
They did all the other things right. They had the
recruiting guy, they would buy the extra recruiting guys like
you do know how that works, Dan, right, Like when
you throw a bunch of money at the recruiting guru

(34:06):
who has the recruiting report. It stands the reason that
he takes care of the guys that you're gonna go
get sure, right, that's how it works. Now facilities don't
matter as much. They already have the facilities. Now they
put all that money and they can put it in
the players. Anyway. Point is that these numbers look argantuan,
and they are. There are some really big numbers, but

(34:28):
without specifics, it just looks like every guy's getting a
ten thousand dollars deal. And I don't think that's the case.
I think there's the haves and the have nots. There's
nickel and dimes stuff, and there's big money stuff. I
want to know the reality of how much some of
these guys are making. I want to know the breakdown
of it. Gosh, I want to know it bad because

(34:51):
as a coach, like I'm a business operator, I'm a
CEO of business. I gotta figure that out. It would
be really funny if they if Josh Allen's when they
were tired his number, dan is if like they had
him to throw passes to some of his former teammates
and they dropped him all right, right, because that was
the whole thing. When he got drafted, like, yeah, it's
completion percent. It's bad, but watch how bad his teammates
actually are. Right.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
One final drop, guys, one final drop just a war memorial.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, one last thing here on landing. I think he's
a great coach. I think he's awesome. Okay, and he
does these all these are superpowers of motive motivation, and
he does these speech and he's cool. But like, dude,
stop it, don't don't act like you're offended when and
he for the most part didn't. But then he took
the little swipe about Tennessee Martin. But they had more

(35:37):
money in Tennessee Martin. Yeah, and they whipped Tennessee Martin's ass.
Yes they did. Adam Kaplan joins us. He's Fox Sports
Radios NFL Insider. He's co host of the Inside the
Birds podcast. That's Eagles podcast. Is there any reason to
think that Dallas can win this game tonight?

Speaker 3 (35:57):
No? No, Now, if Michael Parsis wasn't traded last week,
maybe they would have a fighting chance. It's gonna be hard.
Look down, I just want to explain something to you.
You follow the league a long time. Week one is
really weird. Defenses are typically overall ahead of the offense
is Doug. The one issue defenses have of Hall of
Fame General measure Bill Pauling, Willis tell me man the
first the tackling in the first four to six weeks

(36:19):
is generally poor because as we know, Doug teams don't
tackle anymore so in training camp. So that's that's unfortunately
what goes on. But no, I think when you watch
this game tonight, I'm gonna give you a pretty good
nugget here. So total of people work with Brian Schottenheimer
over the years, Broughton Schottenheimer is the head coach is
going to call the plays. He's super analytical. And what

(36:40):
that means is if you go back forty or fifty years,
the number showed if you throw earlier in games, if
you throw way more than you run it in the
first half, over time, you're gonna win more games. Now,
what's interesting about that is Shoddy in twenty twenty was
he was behind the left Russ Cook movement. That's when

(37:01):
Russell Wilson Doug had twenty eight passket touchdowns in eight games.
That was I was talking to Seahawks and that was
shot his idea to come out aggressive and Pete Carroll
had enough of it because their defense couldn't stop anyone.
And the let's say that the head coach in the
offense corner at philosophical differences and shot he was gone.
But on the other side of you've got Philly who

(37:24):
historically would do that. But last year they're the only
NFL team DOUG to run the ball more than they
throw it in the first half of games, which is
like not done ever anymore in the National Footballay. But
the Eagles did it and it worked.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
So in other words, the idea is for them to
win tonight. They're gonna throw early.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
You gotta throw it, yes the way shot he does it,
but they I mean, Javonte Williams has not been the
same since that multi ligament injury three years ago. He's
in a running back come over from Denver. They got
George Pickens, they got Ferguson done the tight end, they
got his extension done. Now they have some offensive line concerns,

(38:04):
a little bit of tackle now. The Eagles, by the way,
have lost five defensive starters. That's a concern. I think
the numbers right. The the spread move from seven about
an hour before the trade last week to now eight
and a half. Now, I would tell you it's gonna rain,
but now we know that forecasts can change. It's expected
to rain somewhere around kickoff. How hard it is? Is

(38:26):
it light? I couldn't tell you. I'm not a weather man,
but I just look at the hour, hour by forecast
because it was sunny up till an hour ago in
the Philly area. Now it's starting to get cloudy.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
So I thought it was always sunny in Philadelphia. That's
you know what.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
You know what. I've rarely seen that show, and that's funny.
You good, But I've seen it like three or four times.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
But you've seen it.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Oh, I've seen it. Oh yeah, Danny Vito's fantastic. It's
so different. It's it's very It's a very good show,
no doubt.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
It's a very it's a very good show. Adam Kaplan
is our guest. He's our Fox Sports Radio NFL insider.
You hear him not just on our show, but all
of our family of shows you're on on the network. Okay,
let's let's work our way around. What is the league
reaction to Parsons in Greenville?

Speaker 7 (39:04):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (39:05):
All right, So one former GM told me last week, Doug,
this is issue, he said, Stop focusing on that. They trade
him to a team in their conference comping for playoff spot.
Focus on the value. I said, so what do you
mean by that? He goes, if I'm giving up a
top five defensive player, a probably a problem Hall of
Fame player, the guy's been in All Pro two it
was four years pro bowler, each of us four years.

(39:29):
I'm doing that. What's that?

Speaker 5 (39:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I heard you got an email by the way, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeah, sorry I put that Yeah yeah, Becky, yeah you
remember that one. You remember that one. No, But what
happened is Doug is that he said, look, if you're
giving up this player, you have to get a big
time starter back number one. Any first round pick you
get has got to be a high first round pick.
So I go back to twenty eighteen talking to the Raiders.

(39:54):
They'reic convinced when they took They said, they traded to
Khalil Mack out of the conference to the lowly Bears,
think anything of the Bears. Well, who knew that the
Bears would make the playoffs that year? So they're picked
the neck. Their first round pick was not as high
as they thought, and I would say green Bay is
this GM. The former GM told me they should pick
anywhere from twenty six to thirty two because you get

(40:14):
Michael Parsons on there, and by way, that was a
major problem for them. Green Bay's are past rush of course.
I mean, now you've got Rashaan Garrett the other side
is a good football player. So overall, Doug, it's really
the talk around the league was, and I've talked to
easily ten people. They're all almost all of my I
talked to a couple of coaches. It's from a coaching
standpoint how they look at this. But overall, most people

(40:39):
thought the Cowboys did not get good enough value because
they trade them to a team that's going to be good.
The pick numbers won't be good. Most likely we don't
know yet, but most likely based on what the Packers
look like in their perennial playoff team. Anyway, and they
get Kenny Clark and Jerry Jones. Is a fixation on
stopping the run. I mean, you need to control the run,
you need to stop it. I know they've been terrible

(40:59):
against the run. Well, what Jerry did say is they
missed on Mazzie Smith, a first round draft pick in
twenty twenty three who barely made the team out of Michigan,
and that's a big reason why the run defense has
been so bad.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Adam Kaplan's our guest here, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio.
Is there any pressure on the floor considering a little
disappointing last year and now you added in an elite
defensive player in a position of need and policy is
new right, Like he wasn't the president last year. Those

(41:35):
guys good and Guns hadn't been extended. He hasn't been extended.
Any pressure there.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Ton, There's no question about it because when you make
a move. Brian Goudacust is their general manager who's pretty
aggressive now for many years and Goody got raised by
Ted Thompson. Only Ted Thompson as the general manager, so
Ted was very conservative. It were not rarely other than
Charles Woodson get involved in free agency, and Gurtacus has

(42:02):
kind of taken another turn here and he's been pretty aggressive.
He believes in doing it both ways drafted free agency.
So yeah, the pressures on everybody there. You make a
move like this, you give two first round picks, albeit
they probably won't be very high. Kenny Clark said, by
the way, good tackle detackle. He's older, but you're going
for it like this is and they're clearly let me

(42:23):
explain something how it works in the National Football League.
When you make a move like this to get a
pass rusher like this, you're clearly saying you're not good
enough in an area. They weren't. As we said at
the start of the interview here or Talk Green Bay
knew that if they want to make a run and
they have not done well in the playoffs, that's Matt
Lfloor has just not done well enough in the playoffs.
They better make a run here. Because this is a
very good roster. Now you put Parsons on there.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
I don't think there's any questions an excellent, excellent roster.
This is the this is the Doug Gottlieb Show, It
is Fox Sports Radio. A couple more here things to
get to as we go to tomorrow's game in in Brazil.
What are the thoughts on the Chiefs this year? They
just figure it out. They just seem to figure it out.

(43:07):
But last year was an off year statistically and in
regular gameplay by Pat Mahomes, Where is that offense now
as opposed to when we saw them last in Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
It's so doug. My understanding is they want to stretch
the field. They did not last year, and a part
of it was because of the problems that left tackle.
They went through not one, not two, not three, four
left tackles. It'll be Josh Simmons, their first round pick
out of Ohio State. It's had a phenomenal rehab coming
back from his torn Pateeller ten and he's actually ready.
He's going to start Week one. They feel really good

(43:37):
about that. Now they got to change it left guard,
so their left side is completely new. They traded their
left guard to the Bears and right tackle. They're hopeful
that Juan Taylor were reboundies on the Fannie Vers deal
a lot of guaranteed money. That's why they couldn't move them.
The would probably would have caught him if they all
this money wasn't guaranteed. So they're feeling better about their

(43:58):
offensive line. But you saw against Phil and the Super
Bowl is an absolute joke. I mean, it's just bad,
like they missed it left tackle. But they like Xavier Worthy,
Hollywood Brown's back, he's healthy. They feel good about that.
Don't forget Pacheco. They're starting running back, got hurt, he
broke his leg, and then he came back late, wasn't himself.
So the film really good about that. Pretty good defense.
The one area that they have which I believe will

(44:20):
keep him out of the Super Bowl is at corner.
They're just not good enough there. McDuffie's terrific Trent mcuffley,
whether he lines up inside or outside, but the other
corner spots they're not good. That's a problem for me.
We saw it against Philly. They got beat if Eagles
didn't have to throw the ball very much at all,
but when they did, they were super successful. That is
a concern of mine if you're Chiefs fan. I do
radio and WHB every week all season, and I said

(44:44):
that today, then I'm sure they weren't happy with me.
But my job is to tell the truth. And I
ask NFL people, what do you think? A couple of
people pointed out to me, and I saw the same thing.
So we'll say they're gonna as you said, they're gonna
make a run. There's no doubt. But one of these days.
One of the best quarterbacks in the regular season NFL history,
the Mark Jackson's actually going to get done the playoffs
when he does, look out.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Okay, so that's that's the question, right is it.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
That's where I'm going.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Well, all right, you can know Lamar Jackson, Dan and
I had a great discussion yesterday over like storyline. I
said the same thing. But there's also the Josh Allen
at some point is one of the great quoters. Has
hasn't gotten there either.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Bill Bill's in general. Yeah, maybe they might win a ring,
but anyway, Yeah, So with Baltimore, they dressed some issues.
They the extended Ronnie Stanley's contract. The left tackle kind
of rebounded from being hurt quite a bit, and Mark
anders Is back from his injury. That was big for him.
That was impactful. You got it, you know when he
got hurt. Defensively, they addressed their issue with safety next

(45:41):
to Kyle Hamilton, they thought they need more help at corner.
They did. They got Jarry Alexander van NOI's back. This
team is complete. They're the most to me, the most
complete team. Like if you ask NFL people, it's hard
for them to pick it apart. Now, one thing I
would bring up to Derrick Henry and I look having
the mar Jackson are clearly helps. Derek Henry is now
thirty one years old. The Titans did not want him,

(46:05):
as I was told then when they moved on from him,
they they made a decision he wasn't going to come back.
In fact, they they could have worked it out the
year before that free agency last year they would have
traded him, but didn't work out. Bottom line is he's
he may he may be a Hall of Famer, like
he turned his career around after a slow start. He's
ten years in, he's great. What at some point, Doug,

(46:27):
you've studied this league a number of years, and you
know as an athlete and a coach, at some point
there's a major drop off at running back And obviously
the Ravens are hoping it won't be the season.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
I would hope too, because it's my fantasy Team's good.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Well, no, I'm going to tell you, but I'm going
to tell you why I'm gonna like him this year.
So one of the coaches told me when I went
to their camp. You know, I said last year to him, said, hey,
how's it working? He goes watch practice today with Lamar
and Derrick Henry. The thing with Derrick Henry is you
don't know if Lamar's going to keep the ball or not,
so they crash on him or play action. And if

(47:04):
Mark Andrew was healthier, Isaiah likely also was hurt, but
he'll be he'll be back relatively soon. But you just don't.
You don't know how to stop them, and that wound
up happening. It didn't happen early on though people forget.
They didn't start off great, but once they got that
train running. Other than Philly, the Eagles shut them down.
In Baltimore, they were phenomenal. And I again with Bateman
Za Flowers, I know they think eternally that this is

(47:26):
one of the better offensive lines they put together a
long time. Why, I mean, I just don't. They're right
there with Kansas City and in Buffalo. It's amazing how
good those three teams are. But my pick is Baltimore
to get the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Adam Kaplan, Fox Sports Radio's NFL Insider Coast of Inside
the Birds podcast, Enjoy the game tonight, We'll talk to
next week.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Sounds good thing
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