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Do Do Do Do Do Do Do do. I've you
having a great day.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's a football Friday, and we're here to celebrate it
with you, fresh off our first NFL game of the season.
Do Dan Buyer's here, Jay Stew's here, Iowa Sam's here
getting ready for the cy Hawk Trophy to be handed
out tomorrow. In Ames, was that in Iowa? Where was that?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It might have been New Hampshire when he where wasn't Iowa?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Right?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Iowa Caucus?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
That was an all the timer, right because he won
the Iowa Caucus.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
No.
Speaker 6 (01:03):
John Kerry came in, uh kind of like as an underdog,
and Howard Dean was like the front runner in the
in the press, and then Howard John Kerry ended up
winning it. So then Howard Dean was like, no, we're
gonna press on, and that's when he goes yeah.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well first he said like, well, we're gonna got a
new habs right, whatever happened to him.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Hey he's around.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
They're always around.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Yeah, they're always practicing medicine.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Still, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Was he a doctor?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, mum, let's just start.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I was wrong. I'm not smart. I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
The Cowboys were actually looked yesterday like a really pretty
good football team.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Was it helped out by one of the most dynamic
defensive linemen in the league thrown out before the game
really began.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Sure, but I think we can all sit there and
go like yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
It was also helped out in the fact that Ceedee
Lamb suddenly forgot how to catch a football for the Cowboys.
There's a lot to get to it last night's game.
But I didn't think it would be terribly competitive, and
it was, and it had everything that was a fun game.
It had everything. It had just enough like Michael Jordan
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was there, some of the some comedians were there, some
actors had just enough of the pomp and circumstance. It
had a weather delay, which I feel was more commonplace
in college football this time of year. Usually the first
couple of weeks, there's always a thunderstorm, lightning. Games are
postponed or or delayed or whatever. That happened last night.
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It had an ejection, it had a big fumble or two,
it had it had a little.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Bit of everything.
Speaker 8 (02:59):
But I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
That was a winnable game by the Cowboys and a
well played game by Dak Prescott. Here's Nick Sirianni, head
coach of the Eagles, defending Super Bowl champions, on the
errors his team made throughout the game.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I want these guys to play with great energy, great
tenacity while doing it within the rules of the game.
So we'll address that. We talked about that obviously at
halftime because I felt like, you know, that's a really
good offense, and every one of their drives in that
first half that resulted in points were all penalties, you know,
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And now you know a p I, which that's that's different.
That's in the heat of the game. Those those are
going to happen. But you know, I know we had
one with Nolan and one with JC and that creates
short fields for for an offense.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
What do you do buyer.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I mean to me with the Jaalen Carter thing, I mean,
he had a pre existing reputation was one of the
reasons he sort of slipped a couple picks in the draft.
He's crazy, crazy talented. It does appear if you watch
the video. Like I don't know if he was goaded
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into it. I mean, if we're honest with ourselves, he
shouldn't have been close to the Cowboys huddle right like
the ball was five yards away. He was supposed to
be on the other side of the football, but he
wasn't because he was talking ish to the Cowboys before
they get ready for their first snap. Dak Prescott could
have just done his deal and let one of his
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linemen take care of it instead. Now he kind of
walks over, does little John Wayne walk spits on the ground,
and then gets spit in his chest. I don't know
whether or not it cleared the chest into that neck area,
but I do like the fact that we now know
there was a second spitter. Like Seinfeld, you know what
I'm talking about, back and to left, back and to left.
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But I don't know what else you'd do, Like you
pointed out, but he missed a game because of it.
So I kind of think we're good, Like, if you
have another issue, all right, we're gonna have to sit
you for another game or have to the only thing
that he lacked, and I'll probably he'll probably get it
here in the mail is a fine, and he'll probably
get it from the league. But I don't know what
you do with Jalen Carter when he was in fact
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suspended for a game for hawking a quick little loogie
on Dak Prescott's chest.
Speaker 9 (05:29):
Well, I look at it differently. I mean, I think
he got kicked out of a game. I don't think
that the penalty is. It's different if the Eagles are like,
you know what, you did this in practice, You're not
gonna play on Sunday or you're not gonna play on
Thursday night. It's completely different than this, which, by the way,
I thought that completely took the juice and any of
the wind out of the Eagles sales for what could
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have been an exciting first quarter or ramped up first
quarter because of you defending your Super Bowl crown in
the opener on Thursday night. I think it took everything
away from Philadelphia. And I do think that it could
be a sign of things to come because of what
you laid out with Jalen Carter. There was a reason
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he fell in the draft and the great play that
he's had. Doug has made Howie Roseman look like a
genius up until this point. But now you have a
Super Bowl ring, and if it's not Jalen Carter, are
other players also falling victim to this sort of thing
of Hey, maybe we don't have to maybe now it's
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more about me since we got that ring. I tweeted
last night, I took five seconds for us to hate
the Eagles again, Like that was really quick.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I saw. I saw that tweet.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
And my problem was I was at I was at
a gathering and I'm like, saw your tweet and I
look up and I'm like, I don't even know what
he's talking about. And then people are like elbowing and needling,
and I go look up, like when did that happen?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Like before the first snap?
Speaker 10 (06:59):
What?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, that was a weird one.
Speaker 9 (07:01):
So it just it just tells me like there was
nothing that Nick Sirianni or Vic Fangio or Howie Roseman
or Jeffrey LORII or anybody did to have Jalen Carter
say grow up in the offseason from the Super Bowl.
Him getting kicked out isn't the one game penalty and
move on. I think it's more of it could be
representative of maybe what this is all about with the
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Philadelphia Eagles. I think that there are pitfalls like this,
After you win, does everybody want to get fat and
get their own We shall see seventeen more weeks to
play sixteen more games.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
That was as classic an Eagles win early in the
season as you're gonna find. Was it two years ago?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
They were like ten and one to start the season,
and we're like, and it seemed like every game was
an escape? Yeah, you know, and then yeah, that's what
that felt like. Cowboys felt like the better team last night.
If he didn't know that that the Eagles won the
Super Bowl, if he did know they had Saquon, if
he didn't know that that the Giants had trade away
their best defensive player, you'd be like, I've just watching
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these two teams. The one with the star in their
helmet's probably better. They just made some mistakes and weren't able.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
To capitalize as much. But that's how the Eagles win.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And I think the one thing you do caution yourself
against and this sounds like the opposite of coach peak.
Am I do I like to implore more discipline on
my team?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Sure, but you do in football you do have to
have that edge. Right, It's like they want you to
block not just to the whistle, but to the end
of the whistle, right before they let off the whistle. Right,
there's just that little there's a level of aggression, there's
a level of energy. There's that magical level, if you will,
that you're trying to get to. And you don't want
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to take it away from Jalen Carter, but this, as
you point out, that tracks like anything you've read about
Jalen Carter leading up into the NFL and some once
he's been in the NFL. Is why he is again,
why Howie Roseman took a risk that others weren't willing
to take. Here's Brian Schottenheimer after coaching his first game
as a head coach with the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 11 (09:07):
I don't worry about see lamb. See He's gonna be fine.
What a great player. Again, you know, this was a
this was a team defeat, and we own that. You know,
we understand where we can go as a football team.
We understand. I love the competition. I thought guys competed
their butts off. I thought that was great. But we're
all about winning, and we didn't win tonight, and so
therefore it's not good enough.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Here's the other thing we probably missed on Brian Schottenheimer. Now,
the first thing is Dak Prescott looked really good and
really mobile. And I would also point out that again
we've we've never held Dak in the regards of the
elite quarterbacks, and I think rightfully so, because he's never
performed well enough in the playoffs to earn that distinction.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
But Jerry is not an idiot.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
He did put a bunch of money in him, and
after last night, like you know what, the old man
still may know a thing or two about a football player.
But the thing that the Cowboys made sure they did
with their head coach is have continuity. The reason they
held on to Schottenheimer was Dak really liked him. They
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worked together well. He felt like his offense, his style,
his play calling.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
That works for him. So while we're.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Concern ourselves with Pickens, who still has He's talented but
still got a lot of turn in him. He doesn't
block things, he doesn't murders routes all out of stacking
the ball. But while we're so concerned with their wide
receiving core, their offensive line, their ability to run the football,
or whatever, what I thought last night was it was
a win for continuity. Now that will start to even
out the later we get into the season, because the
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Eagles have a new offensive courdon or a new play caller,
so it's always going to be a little bit new,
a little bit different, and take a little bit of
an adjustment period.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
And they didn't play in the preseason. But last night
was a little bit of a win.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Was a win for the boys, even though they lost,
because we all thought they were gonna get blown out
and they didn't, and they looked like the better team.
They just didn't make a couple plays here or there
that should have solidified them as the better team, or
at least make the Eagles play a little bit better,
make the Eagles throw the ball down the field, something
they didn't have to do last night or couldn't do.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
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Speaker 1 (11:27):
Hey what up, but you Doug gott Leap Show Fox
Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app. I hope you're having a great day.
It's a Friday.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
You should be having a good day. Work.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Is it just about over for many of you? Midwest
to east coast, West coast. Get a couple more hours,
pretend like you're doing something. It's a football Friday.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Today's Friday.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It's friday. North Carolina played this weekend? God do right?
Really interesting? Everybody will care? Week one? Week two? Nobody cares?
Hey can I?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I This is is unscripted and not that our show
has written, but we do kind of plan out we're
going to talk about and Dan, I want to get
to your your topic in a second. Something we discussed
because tonight you got Chargers taking on the Chiefs in Brazil.
We are all fans of the man Rob Parker.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Is that fair right? We're fans of the man Robs
a great guy, great guy.
Speaker 10 (12:23):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Okay, his of his signature takes, right of his signature
takes are the ones you're like, Rob Parker, like any
the guy who said, okay, that's your signature, take.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
His signature takes.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I believe probably number one definitely on his Mount Rushmore
is that Tom Brady was not the greatest quarterback of
all time, but the luckiest quarterback of all time? Doesn't he
call him the lope, the luckiest of all time? Am
I correct in saying that?
Speaker 9 (12:55):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Okay, So he is openly rooting for Bill Belichick to fail.
He's made it a point in his radio show. That's
what his show essentially at times see and Kevin Washington,
where he's like, Hey, I just wander I'm so happy
he lost.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I want him to lose.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Because he wants to prove right that he's not. He's arrogant,
not really that good at coach. Without Tom Brady, he'd
be nothing. That goes completely counter to his signature. Take
if Tom Brady's just lucky, well, then Bill Belichick has
to be good. But if Bill Belichick was just lucky
to have Brady, then how does that actually work?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Am I making sense?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yep?
Speaker 9 (13:39):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Okay, I mean obviously part of this is we know
too much. North Carolina takes on Charlotte, which used to
be North Carolina Charlotte. Now it's just Charlotte and their
thirteen a half point favorites against the forty nine ers,
which didn't we have a discussion about how why they're
forty nine ers?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
That last week? Was that us?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I thought we did. I had that discussion with somebody.
Where are they forty nine ers? But North Carolina goes
to Charlotte, and I think they play where the Panthers
play in Bank of America and then they take on Charlotte,
So they'll win this week, and if they win this week,
people'll not mention it at all. But I just I
thought that was a contradictory to his signature take take,
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and I call him out on such.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
I'm sure he'll be challenged with that at some point
and then we'll get some kind of explanation. So I
don't know how you can have it both ways. How
Brady can be when it's your show. You can't, But
how can you explain it?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
That'd be great. I would love to I would love
to know that. Okay, tonight we have Chargers Chiefs. Before
we get to your take on it, Dan Byer, you
got a couple of Charger fans here, right, but you
also had a guy who picked the.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Chiefs win to go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Okay, So before again, before we get to that, let
me just state I don't think the Chiefs are that good.
I would love to see the Chiefs not get to
the Super Bowl. I would love to see somebody new
get there, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, or me, even our
guy Herbie or Joe Burrow get back to the super Bowl.
I would love to see that happen. But every year
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that Pat Mahomes has been a starting quarterback, he's been
at minimum the AFC Championship Game. So it stands the
reason it's really really dumb to pick against Pat Mahomes
and Andy Reid when we have like a decade of
data that tells us if he's playing quarterback, they're going
to be in the AFC Championship Game.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So when I say.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
That, that is my take emotion out of it, take
any analysis out of it, and just go with historical
data and do the best you can with it. That's
where I am on the Chiefs. Okay, Jay Stu. I
think we both know that the Chargers are in a
much better place with Jim Harbaugh as their head coach,
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right Like, we both like, yeah, he'll figure it out eventually.
But they lost their starting left tackle, the best in
the league, or one of the best in Rashwan's Slater.
It's still it's year two, so it's still a work
in progress in terms of them changing the roster around
Wide Receiving Corps. Lad mcconkey's the best. You know you
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you know you bring back kind of a legend as well.
I don't know where are you on the charge, Like,
what are your reasonable expectations as a Charger fan.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I think that the Slater thing is is devastating. To
be honest, I hate it. I actually told Dan Bayer,
who's an Ohio state guy who hates that Jim Harbaugh
got away with what he did at Michigan, I said,
take solace in this. Karma has ways of coming back around.
And I think maybe the Slater injury is karma for
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what Jim Harbaugh did at Michigan. Just my theory. I
can't prove it, but I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I'm Rashaan Slater getting hurt is karma for a for
a no name coordinator going out and stealing signs.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
And not getting punished for it.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
They get punished for it, barely, barely. They have suspended
for games. They got punished for it.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, Buyer disagrees, and I said, Dan, if.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You can say, you can say the punishment wasn't severe
enough in your opinion, but please don't say they haven't
been punished for it. But everyone involved that we're aware
of has been punished somewhat severely.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Point of contention between the buyer and.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Gottwad buyers just, I mean, buyer completely ignores all of
Ohio states misgiving.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
I just I just don't want Doug to get into
shouting fest twenty.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, it's okay, Okay, here's Dog's talking loud.
Speaker 9 (17:59):
Dogs talk, I'm talking loud.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Let's get to this is Dan Patrick on tonight's Chiefs
Chargers game.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
You have the Chiefs and the Chargers in Brazil. Now
here's the problem I have with this. I know we're
getting to you know, global expansion here, but the fact
that the Chargers in Chiefs, a divisional rivalry game is
going to be played in Brazil is malpractice. I mean,
that's terrible because that should be played in Los Angeles,
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or if it was going to be played in Kansas City.
This is a divisional game, and I don't think the
fans in Brazil were going to go, hey, we better
get an opening game, we better get a week one game.
I'm not anti international. What I am anti is a
divisional game we're going to export and it's week one.
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You can't do that to the Chiefs and the Charger
fans this week seven and then you have a bye week.
If you want to do it that way, then I
think it's fair to all involved. You can still have
games there, but let's not have opening day or their
first week, their first game, a divisional game, and you're
going to play it in Brazil.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Last year was Packers, I mean Packers Eagles. It was
in Brazil on a Friday night, so same bat time,
same bat channel, same conference, different division, but it ended
up being a rematch in the playoffs, right, So I
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do think that there are some very specific parts of
this matchup which makes it okay. And this is as
a Charger fan, what do we think the ratio is
in Sofi?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Game was supposed to be played in Sofi?
Speaker 10 (19:49):
Just see?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
How do you know? Because they're still playing Chargers Chiefs
in Kansas City? Okay? So this was a Chargers home game.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
And the first thing is, if we're honest with ourselves,
the Chargers have to kind of do everything they can
to acquiesce to the League, because without the league, they
wouldn't have the sweetheart deal of no rent being in
Los Angeles, tripling the value of the franchise. Right, they
have a lot. There's some benefits to it. But you're
gonna lose a game, Okay, it sucks that you're losing
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a Chief's home game. On the other hand, a Chief's
home game is full of Chiefs fans. I've been to
this game. It's three quarters red and maybe a quarter
of powder blue. You go to Brazil and there's not
a ton of local fans. It's a neutral side game.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I actually think there's a world where you go you
really think.
Speaker 9 (20:38):
That the Chargers are just as popular in Brazil than
than the Chiefs are.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
No, But again, it doesn't it's not like that fans
they don't like they it's not not the same. Do
you think it's the same level of passion. They're just
they wear the Mahomes jerseys because they've seen him win,
and they sing songs, likely because that's what you you
in other countries. But it's not the raucous Chief Kingdom atmosphere,
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if you will, and like, look, we we have exported,
specially to England and Germany. Some dog poop games, right,
like how many times? Like did we get the did
we get the Jaguars again? Bloody hell, we got to
Jaguars again. We're sending two good button teams down there,
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good colors. Okay, dann Byer you taking.
Speaker 9 (21:30):
Away, it's a much bigger story than just the Chargers
don't draw well at home Because to what you're saying,
I think that travel is involved as well. Instead of
sleeping at home in your beds, not having a travel weekend.
The Chargers now have eight of those this year. Every
team in the AFC outside of the Chargers have nine
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of those. So there, so they're they're at a disadvantage there,
maybe not every team, but I'll get to that in
a second. The NFL prides itself on this balanced schedule
so much so that we basically know fourteen of seventeen
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opponents for every team for next year and guess what
the year after that and the year after that, because
they have a scheduling motto, a model where this division
plays that division, that division plays that division, and it
just goes on and on and on. So players make
sure that they're in a stadium like Patrick Mahomes is
at least going to play in a game at Soldier
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Field in Chicago at one point during what an eight
year cycle. That's kind of the goal of the NFL.
The problem is with the international series that you talk of, Doug,
is because there are five international games. Excuse me, there
are seven international games this year. Six of those will
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take place in Germany in Europe, one in Germany, one
in Ireland. Then you've got the London games, and then
we have one in Madrid, and then we have the
game in Brazil. Of the six other games, five of
those are cross conference AFC against NFC. It's Vikings and Steelers,
Vikings and Browns, Rams and Jaguars, Falcons and Colts, Commanders
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and Dolphins. Those don't hurt you as much in the
standings when it comes to tiebreakers and other deals. The
other game is a battle of AFC teams in London
between the Broncos and Jets. But the last time that
we've had a divisional matchup be played in an international
game was in twenty twenty two with the Cardinals and
forty nine Ers, and the last time it happened in
an international game in Europe was twenty nineteen when the
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Panthers and Buccaneers ended up playing a game. So the
NFL has made an effort to try not to have
divisional games. And the reason why I think it's such
a problem, Doug, is because the NFL, and this goes
back to the schedule rotation, wants to tell us that
their schedule is fair. They also want to tell us, Doug,
that the division is so important. Winning your division says
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so much. Winning your division gives you a playoff berth
and a home game for the first round of the playoffs,
so much so that they can never get that changed,
even this past offseason with the Rules Committee on the
competition committee. The owners want that valuable home game for
winning your division, Then why are you putting this game
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when it's so valuable thousands and thousands of miles away,
When it's a clear benefit to Kansas City and it's
not a benefit to the Chargers. Just because Kansas City
gets to keep their nine home games, they don't have
to play eight true road games. Now they get to
play seven road games. And that's the problem with it
is it's not whether the Chargers draw the Chiefs draw.
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It's the NFL and what they're trying to tell us,
they're telling us that the winning the division matters, and
it matters so much that you're going to get a
home game in the first round of the playoffs. And
we think it matters so much that we're going to
make Week eighteen all division games. And Mike Carmen and
I on our I Want Your Flex podcast, little plug there.
I've talked about this for years. I mentioned earlier half
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the games of Week eight team don't even matter because
teams are out of it. So it's more of the
messaging with the NFL. And it's not that your points
aren't valid, because I think that they are in reasons
in sticking up you know, on why the NFL would
do this, But the NFL tells us one thing and
then does another. And that's my problem with it is
this game does mean something to the to the Chargers.
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Just to be able to make Kansas City make a
road trip and have the Chargers be able to sleep
in their own beds, I think is a decent advantage
and the Chargers don't have that advantage. And so there
are other teams that are giving up home games this
year in the AFC, but those opponents are against NFC folks,
except the Jets who have that game against the Broncos.
That's why I think it's it's tough and also truly,
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the Chargers are one of the few teams in the
NFL Rams Seahawks, forty nine Ers who actually have the
toughest time because of their location period in travel when
they have to go to the East Coast, much more
difficult for them to travel. So now you're tape making
them travel even more on a weekend that they weren't
supposed to. That's where I think that the NFL is
in a complete double standard and talking out of both
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sides of their mouths.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Jay Stude, does it matter to you as a Charger fan?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, it matters, It matters. I would take a hybrid
of everything that Mark Dominic said, Dan Patrick said, and
Dan Bayer just said it. Each of you all made
very compelling points that I think speak for the Charger
fan because there are like twelve of us, I think
maybe fifteen now because of Jim Harbaugh. So Doug's right
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in that most Charger home games are neutral games. But
for everything Dan just said, I'm not even gonna do
it the disustice of reiterating it. I want to add
this point. I am the guy on this network who's
been saying I have no idea who the international game serves.
(27:00):
It doesn't serve the players, It doesn't serve the traditional
rights holders to have this game on YouTube. It's gott
to piss NBCCBS or whoever off that they don't have
a Chargers Chiefs game to play. And it certainly doesn't
serve us the fan. We have to go out of
our way to watch it on some streaming network. It
puts a little bit more money into rich people's pockets,
(27:24):
that's all it does. That's what kind of pisses me off.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
How much did they get for the YouTube game? Do
we know?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
I don't know a billion?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Does anybody know?
Speaker 9 (27:39):
I don't have it offhand. I'm gonna look it up,
and I know Sam probably will too.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
I would say, who does it serve? I mean, first
thing is that it serves all the teams in the NFL,
because this is another network. It's in terms of business,
it's genius. I'm not disagreeing with you, but you missed
you missed the big element.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
The first thing is that anytime this is where Goodell
is going to go down, as historically the greatest commissioner
in the history of sports, and Adam Silver's trying to
copy it.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
If we really get down to it, it's how many
networks can you get on?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
They're on every network, They're on Amazon, they're on Netflix,
and now they're on YouTube. Like that's incredible. And so
when you get when you explore different networks and different opportunities,
that's new money, that's not found new money, and it
goes into all the teams. And then yeah, I mean,
like I think they the game is popular and they're
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trying to but bit by bit kind of educate the
world on what this game looks like, to build it
into a more of a global game, as baseball has tried,
but they're kind of limited to Japan and Korea. Doesn't
really seem to work elsewhere, right, Basketball wants to do
it as well, Like we're kind of tapped out here
and they're tapping into new markets. So I think from
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a business standpoint, it's brilliant who it serves. It does
serve Mahomes, It does serve Herbert, because it does they
are national names that slowly become international names. But for
the most part, yeah, all these players at the end
of it just like we tell them, like, hey, you
don't like playing was it you like playing Thursday games?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Great?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Give back that money that's made because Amazon wants to
buy Thursday night games.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
So everybody gets rich because of it.
Speaker 9 (29:27):
So one other point to this, and I'm curious to
see what the NFL does, Like this game has been
played in Week one. I think because of the significant
travel and what it takes to hold the game in Brazil.
It feels like they have a better path with Europe
and that travel. So this was brought up this week
that the NFL will not be playing a Friday game
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next season because of the Sports Broadcasting Act of nineteen
sixty one saying that they can only hold Friday night
games if Labor Day is early enough on the calendar.
Next year, that will not be the case this year.
At it the earliest that it can be with Labor
Day being September one. So these past two years the
NFL has been able to get away with it. It's
also because of that travel, Doug, I think they have
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a difficult time putting it into the schedule where everything
else is. So that's why they've allowed this extended weekend
for the Packers and Eagles last year. Remember the Eagles
played a Monday night game then against the Falcons in
Week two, so they had an extra day to prepare
for that. I'm curious to see what they do next
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year with this game, because they're not going to have
the ability to put it in Week one no matter
who ends up playing in that game.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
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Speaker 1 (30:46):
One Sports Start one sport Ends. This is the Doug
Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. So last night we had
the first NFL game of the season. The WNBA season
ended last night. Wait no, no, they're sam. They still plan.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
They're just wrapping up the regular season in the next
probably either they have or they will be.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
It's the end of the season, pretty much.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
What mean they have or they will be.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
They might have one game left.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
You got about a week to go, okay week in
the regular season, two games left?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, right, but Caitlyn Clark announced on social media that
she's going to miss the remainder of the season.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Right, so nobody cares now it's over. Correct, Well, they
canceled the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
They're just going to right the kidding.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
That's a that's a good play right there, Like tonight
was isn't tonight Chicago and Angel Reese against Indiana the
fever and supposed to be Kaitlyn Clark right, but there's
no Sophie cunning In.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
There's no Caitlin Clark so.
Speaker 9 (31:45):
And there's no Angel Reese because she got suspended for
her eighth technical of the season.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Did she Yes, I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
All I knew about Angel Reese was she said that
they need to get better players around her in Chicago,
and then she said she said it was taken out
of context. How so, how is that possibly taken out
of context? We need we need to have great players,
you know, we need just to have better players around me.
That was taken out of context? Like huh, you know
(32:13):
what we need? We need to do a segment and
then maybe expand it. We've done this before. We we
clean up misused popular phrases, misused propaly and and my
favorite or least favorite one is I couldn't care less,
(32:34):
which is misused as I could care less, right, because
if you could care less, that means you care there's
an amount you could care less. The actual term is
I couldn't care less. I care so little. There's no
amount less than how I care. So that's the proper
usage of the phrase I could not care less. It's
(32:57):
just like people will say that's a tough road to hoe. No,
it's a tough row to hoe, right. The hoe is
the garden tool variety. And if again it's an impossible
road to hope. No one can hoe a road but row.
It's a tough road hough. Anyway, I say that because
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people misuse expressions, and in this case, she's misusing a word.
This is Angel Reese.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
By the way. Are you frustrated with the organization or
frustrated in general?
Speaker 5 (33:32):
I don't think I'm frustrated. I probably am frustrated in
myself right now. I think the language is taken out
of context. And I really didn't intentionally mean to put
down my teammates because they've been through this with me
throughout the whole year. They've busted their eyes just how
I busted my eyes. They showed up for me through
thick and thin, and in the locker room when nobody
could see anything. So I would apologize to my teammates,
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which I already have about the article and how it
was misconstrued, about what was said. And I just have
to be better with my language because I know it's
not the message, it's the messenger and understanding what I
what I say can be taken any kind of way.
So I just have to really be better and grow
from this.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Okay, So it's not she goes into cliches it's not
the messengers the messenger, which means it is on her,
which I do agree with, but it's not being taken
out of context. She has to be She has to
understand the words she says and how any they land
with anybody that's not taken out of context.
Speaker 9 (34:33):
Yes, Stan Byron, you know it's funny because I actually
thought that she was passing the buck when she was
saying that by saying, it's not the message, it's the
messenger soever, whoever took her message is the one that's
and this is this is I think part of the
problem is I thought that so because I don't give
her the benefit of the doubt because of everything else
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that has happened prior to this, even if she was
being legit in that case in taking responsibility it didn't
necessarily sound like that, so I automatically defaulted to thinking like, oh,
she's mad at whatever article or whatever writer or podcaster
or whoever took her comments and made them sound like
the way that they did.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
It was a writer for Front Office Sports, and by
all accounts, this writer is very reputable. I've seen journalists
in the last two days come out and defend her professionalism.
Remember it was Angel Reis who said that it's not
just one person that is responsible for the rise in popularity,
it's two. I did it too, And then she told
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us that we took her out of context.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Remember, yeah, she doesn't know what out of context of
us it. She doesn't know what out of context means
she is using out of context out of context. You
sure he did there. I'm pretty proud of myself, actually
really proud of myself. My point was, there's no Kate
and Clark, no Sophie Cunningham. They can play a million
(36:01):
more games. Are we even going to care? And this
is this will be fascinating. Let's see what the playoff
numbers look like. Now, I just you can tell us
the league is taking this massive jump. They're doing a
better job of protecting it putting it on network TV,
but proves in the pudding. You get to the playoffs,
(36:22):
which again mistake to play them against the NFL in
college football. But no, Ain't no, no Caitlin Clark, no
Sophie Cunningham.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Good luck.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
That was part of the Eagles twenty four to twenty win.
Let's welcome in Mark Dominic, he spent over twenty years
in NFL front offices, scouting and of course worked his
way up to being the general manager of the Tampay Buccaneers,
joins us for his weekly Friday visit here on the show, Mark,
wis just your reaction to the game last night?
Speaker 10 (36:48):
Well, it's see right, twenty one to twenty halftime in
only three more points to the rest of the game.
You know, felt like it was going to be a
shootout the whole way. But it turns out like the
legs of the quarterbacks proved to be just a valuable
sometimes of their arms and for Jail and Hurts, I
think that showed obviously last night.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I was surprised at how competitive the Cowboys were, were you.
Speaker 10 (37:11):
Yes? And the fact you know that they had opportunities, uh,
you know with the fumble Sanders and obviously the drop
balls by Ceedee Lamb. They started, had a chance to
win the game, you know, losing jailing Carter. You know
in the pre with with Dak Fretschcott and the spitting,
you could see that that was an impact on this
team and that defense. But yeah, I mean I was
impressed by the Cowboys and you know new News you
(37:34):
know situation there with coach Schottenheimer, and yeah, they were
absolutely in this game, had a chance to win it,
which was incredible when you're when you think about playing
the filled up the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Week one, what do you do with Jaalen Carter? If
you're the.
Speaker 10 (37:43):
Eagles, Well, I think you you've already dealt with it internally,
but you understood. I mean it's the whole adage, right Doug.
It's you depends how good the players. It depends on
how you're going to handle it. You know, him missing
the game is a lot of punishment. Uh, you know
they got away with the win. A saint. That's all
you'll see. I think you'll you'll hear the We've talked
to him about it. He's going to grow and learn
(38:03):
from this speeches and it's not going to happen again
kind of stuff, and I don't expect it to happen again.
It's a big, big mistake, a huge lesson. It feels
like the couple about every decade, right, Albert Hainsworth was
the last one.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Like this, Yeah, Miles Garrett swung his helmet it. Yeah
at Mason Rudolph, you know he Actually the fact that
it happened before the game started and he got kicked
out actually probably helped him because happens at the end
of the game or in the third quarter. And I'm like, now,
we got to set him for a game, right, So
now you're like, ah, he sat for a game and
we go. The only thing they didn't get was a fine,
(38:37):
But the NFL can still find him. Mark Dominic's our
guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
How do the Eagles do this?
Speaker 1 (38:47):
And I bring it up because this kind of reminds
me of two years ago, right where they started out
ten and one to start the season. They're like, eh,
I don't look that great, and last night they were
kind of outplayed. Jalen Herd, which is not able to
complete anything like more than ten yards down the field.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
And yet end up.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
One to zero, and you know, and going into week
two with an extra couple of days to prep, why,
in your mind are they able to win games in
which at times they're outplayed.
Speaker 10 (39:16):
Well, Barkley's a big piece of it, as we both know, right,
I mean, just his ability to make a play when
it needs to be made certainly feels like it. And
you're right on Jalen. I mean, besides the throw to
Jehan Dotson, I mean he threw from basically one hundred
yards on eighteen attempts both quarterbacks. You know, there are
yards per attempt or was pretty shockingly low. I think
the Eagles stay in this because they've been there, done this.
(39:37):
I think because they're kind of used to playing different
games and different levels. Do they play to the level
of their opponent potentially, But at the same point, you know,
this is some of the I think some of the
rust because we really rest players now in the National
Football League through the preseason. You know, they don't play
as much preseason game as they used to play when
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we had four games, actually played more, they played less now,
So I think part of that is just coming out
maybe not crisp. You know, we had the one fumble,
no interceptions last night, No, it really just the one sack.
And so I think it's just more of everybody kind of,
you know, getting their legs underneath them and getting ready
for real football. And then you know, that's what's going
to be great about this weekend is watching every play
and see which teams are even more prepared and which
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teams you know, came out flat. I think for both teams,
they seem to be prepared for the game. Even the
Eagles certainly made this a lot closer than we all
thought it was going to be.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
We're going to talk about this next hour. So Dan,
don't worry. You're going to get a chance, because I
know Dan hates this game. That the Chargers and the
Chiefs are playing a divisional game in Brazil. What are
your feelings on it?
Speaker 10 (40:42):
So I love that we're playing in Brazil. I hate
that we're playing a divisional game in Brazil. I just
don't think divisional games are so critical and so important
in terms of playoff seeding and what happens. And I
think that that's so important to have your home games,
when you have your home games or your road games.
But you know, ideally this is maybe the Chiefs versus
some of the AFC, or maybe it's the Chargers versus
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something in the AFC. But you know, I don't love
that it's a divisional game, but I'm very excited to
see this game tonight, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Well as a Charger fan, and Jaycedu can attest to this,
the disparity in the road fans versus the home fans
is not as great as it once was, but it's
still not great. I'd actually say Chargers probably have a
chance at a better fifty to fifty split in Brazil
than they do in Los Angeles.
Speaker 10 (41:31):
I would have I fully agree with that. I think
it's going to be you know, much more, you know,
having been an opportunity to you know, be the GM
of the Bucks and taking it a couple of trips
over to London and play there. You know, when you
take it out of the country, it's pretty chat. It
feels like a Super Bowl because it's you know, there's
going to be Tony Romo jerseys and there's going to
be you know, Pittsburgh Steelers jersey there. But I still
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think the Chargers will support and it'll look more fifty
to fifty than it would be lopside of like you
would expect the game to be.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Stull Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, what
are you most intrigued about. Let's start with the Chargers.
Speaker 10 (42:06):
Well, I mean, I think it just goes down to
justin Herbert, right, and just what he's going to be
able to, you know, do this year basically all the
volume of work he's had, but also you know, being
in the system now longer, and what he's going to
be able to I think accomplish. You're not a huge
Chargers fan, you know, hated the injury that was brutal
to them, and you know it's Slater and everything, But
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I still like the Chargers offensively. I still like what
they're going to be able to do and move the ball.
I believe in that, So I'm excited about that. I'm
excited to see, you know, Omar Hampton run the ball
and see what he looks like in a Chargers uniform.
And I think the main thing is it's it's the
loss of Joey Bosa. But you know, I think Tuley
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is going to be a guy that's going to step
up on the outside and be a ten sack plus
guy this year that I think is going to erupt
onto the National FOOTB League. Here's a guy that's been
a great passers, has been stuck and now he's going
to a chance to be the guy, and I think
he's going to own up to it.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
All right. What about the Chiefs? Same question? What most
intrigues you?
Speaker 10 (43:06):
Your offensive line? Just what's it going to look like?
How's it actually going to come together for the Kancity Chiefs?
Are they going to be able to protect Mahomes this year?
I loved Josh Simmons pick. I've loved watching him on tape.
It's the right side in terms of Juwan Taylor. How
does he play? And you know, not having Joe there
at left guard is going to be something to watch too, obviously,
So left guard, right tackle. To me, it's the offensive
(43:27):
line or what it looks like. But I'm very excited
for Josh Simmons. I think the Chiefs, uh, you know,
pulled a fast one on everybody with him sliding with
the injury. He looks fantastic.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
When he played Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
I don't think we've talked since mikeeh Parsons was traded.
What'd you think of the deal?
Speaker 10 (43:46):
So I thought it was a little short sighted in
my opinion, from whose perspective, from the Cowboys perspective, like, look,
I love Kenny Clark, you know, and that's you know,
that's he's a very, very very good player, and he
will help the Cowboys in the run game all season long.
But two first round picks, to me, is just not
enough value for what he can bring and what you're
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what you're losing. I mean, you think about the Chargers,
and you know the draft of Lucas Mannez a couple
of years ago in the first round, and that hasn't
panned out. So it's easiest to then go, well, he's
twenty six. You know, I'm gonna have to draft a
pass rusher next year anyway, So now I'm really just
giving up one for the sure thing. The only thing,
you know, I don't know about this back being a
real issue. I don't believe it is at all. You
I don't think you get this bar down the road
on the trade, and certainly with that kind of money,
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would you ever sign the player if you felt the
back was some type of an issue. I just I
feel like if the Cowboys ended up doing this, it
would have been ideally done before the draft, if you're
going to move him. But I don't think that anybody
really understood where the market was or where it was going.
And I think for the Packers, you know, I'd like
to trade hate the contract if i'm you know, I'm
never matter the player get as much money as you can.
(44:54):
But they just obliterated, you know, the contracts of defensive ends.
I mean, you look around the National Football Aga you
start to think about the guys that you know, just
redid their deals because they're you know, worried about you know,
they feel like they're under I mean, it made Max
Crosby's deals, which tried to be right wrong again. I mean,
it's it was such an anomaly contract. It's almost Deshaun
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Watson like. I know, it's not fully guaranteed, but it
jumped so dramatically when there was already you know, pieces
there that said, hey, you could blueprint off that. But
kudos to the player in the agent. You know, if
you can get that kind of money, it was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
It's gonna be fascinating.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Okay, So what does it do for the Packers this year.
For your personal expectations of the Packers.
Speaker 10 (45:36):
Yeah, so, as you know, and as we've talked, and
I'm very thankful that we had a game last night.
We get to watch games tonight and all through the
weekend finally again. But I've been on the Packers bandlegon
and i've been before the trade, and you know, I
still believe in Jordan Love and and then what I
think they're going to do with Golden and at the
wide receiver position, and just you know, I've talked about
Luke Musgrave being there. I think that's a piece that
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the people haven't paid attention to that I think is
going to give them that you know, duel with Tucker
Craft and then Jordan Love and the run game. So
I like where the Packers were already. I thought they
were right on the heels. It's not right in front
of the Detroit Lions at this point. I still Detroit
a little bit ahead. But I think with this Micah
Parsons trade, I'm going to put the Packers now over Detroit.
But I think they're both you know, twelve win teams, and.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Of course they play Sunday a Lambo that's gonna be fast.
A lot of those early season matchups of divisional with
divisional implications are fascinating because you know, so often, especially
with teams limited reps in preseason, it's not really the
true look at who a team's.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Going to be.
Speaker 10 (46:38):
Yeah, and it's your point. I mean, they obviously wanted
to do that. For the most part, you think about
the Bucks and the Falcons, or the Browns and the Bengals.
So we've certainly got the Giants Commanders. We've got a
lot of those games where it's divisional games right off
the bat, and we get to kind of see what
everybody looks like. You know what's Pete Carroll's team's going
to look like, you know what are the Raiders look like?
With Gino Smith's it's just you know, against the Patriots team,
and everybody's darling that they feel like there's going to
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be the big team that makes the big move this year.
So we'll see what Brave One Company have done in
New England. But uh yeah, it's gonna be fascinated this
week to see Cam Wore be able to be the
starting quarterback for an entire game and what does that
look like compared to what did Caylen Williams and how
much did he grow from your year one d year two?
Speaker 2 (47:14):
Arch Manning? What'd you think of his his debut as
Texas full time starter.
Speaker 10 (47:19):
Yeah, you know it's a hard place to play. You can,
you can put that out there that you know it's
a tough place to play, and you know it wasn't.
But you you know, part of me is like, I
know the name is phenomenal, right, the Manning name, the Manning,
But and I liked Queen Ewers. I thought he was
I never thought he was gonna go all the way
in the seventh round to the Dolphins. But you know,
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Arch didn't beat out Quen yours. And so when you
sit there and watch that, yes it's one game, and
yes there's so much expectation on and it's probably the
toughest way to start your college career. But it was
concerning for me. And you know, I know that he's
gonna have some games where it's going to be a
lot more productive, but you know, to be the best,
you've got to be on top of your game. And
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I know that some great quarterbacks don't start great. We'll
see what arch Metia does, but it would be hard
to say that wasn't disappointing just from a statistical perspective,
all right.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
That is the one and only Mark Dominic twenty years
in NFL front offices, most notably the gentle manager of
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
He joins us weekly.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Mark, enjoy the football Tonight Sunday and into Monday. NFL
is finally back. Thanks for being our
Speaker 10 (48:22):
Guest, my pleasure dog, Enjoy the games Man,