September 12, 2025 • 43 mins
On a Friday edition of the Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug talks about championship energy and how that relates to the way the Packers look and feel right now.
Doug addresses the Dolphins situation as they reportedly called for a Players-Only meeting after their loss in the opener this week.
Doug weighs in on comments made by DK Metcalf on his former team. Doug welcomes former Bucs GM Mark Dominik onto the show to talk about the Packers, Aaron Rodgers and all of the headlines around the NFL.
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fall twenty five Bring the Boom Max Boom. Uh. Let's
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get into it. Last night, great night at Lambeau. Uh.
I mean, I guess I gotta ask Danbyer what he
thinks of the of the Icy Way Green Bay Pack.
But I I've been a broadcaster, obviously much longer than
I've been a coach. I've been in sports my entire life,
and I there's something that we haven't discussed a bunch,
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but it's a real thing. I call it championship energy.
I championship energy. And I remember I've I went to
Villanova's practices usually like once a year. Jay Wright would
let me know, like once a year, sometimes when I
was doing a game, sometimes when I wasn't doing a
game or whatever. And the year they won their first championship,
I went to their practice because I was calling a
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seat Hall game they won down at the end of
at the end of the game against seat Hall, and
I remember turning to maybe their sid at the time,
and I said, like, does this feel different from different
than other years? And he's like it does. I said
it does to me too. Now this is before they
went out and started just eviscerating people. Beat Oklahoma by
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what forty four points in the semi finals, and obviously
one on incredible Chris Jenkins three point shot to beat
North Carolina. So I'm not going to tell you that
at that very moment, at that very moment, I knew
this is going to be a championship team. But when
you are around teams that have just kind of that
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right chemical mixture. It's no different than when you're around couples.
Right when you're around couples and they're dating and you're like,
how long guys been together? Like two months? Like, wow,
you guys look like you've been together for twenty years?
Would't people with twenty years? Usually they don't care about
each other. I'm kidding. But the point is that you
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can field championship couples, you can field championship teams. There's
just a different field to it. And maybe it's because, yes,
I'm boots on the ground, I live in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Maybe it's because I have gotten a chance to get
to know some of the coaches, some of the players,
and I'm drinking some of the kool aid. But in
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what was an ugly game was not crazy competitive from
the commander's perspective, and anytime it was close, the Packers
like Pordge is better than you. Here's Jordan Love talking
about the win and his defense after the game.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Ten days in to this NFL season, you're two to
zero against divisional contenders.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
How did you do it tonight?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Just team victories right there, back to back. You know,
defense been dominant, been shutting people down. In offense, we've
been doing a great job putting up points and you know,
finishing these games off. But it's a great start to
the season. We just gotta keep building on it. What
impressed you most about the way your defense contained Jaydan
Daniels the whole offense over there. That's a really good offense,
and just the way the defense been flying around. You know,
obviously we didn't get a turnover tonight, but they're hunting
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that ball and they're flying around making a lot of plays.
So you hold a good offense like that to eighteen
points and let us go go score, we're gonna win
those games.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's a good football team. I don't think anybody would
argue I would say that it doesn't mean they're going
to go to the Super Bowl, and lots of things
can happen. I mean, they had one of the best
wide receivers breaks his collarbone yet yesterday, right They injuries
can destroy it and you can get in a bad
stretch and what looks like what looks like utopia can
turn on you. But that's a good football team. They
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whatever becomes of the Lions as they'll grow and evolve
with the new offensive coordinator, whatever becomes of the commanders,
as you know, they want to know and dominated the Giants,
but it's been sloppy for them. They're very both both
very likely or supposed to be playoff teams, and neither
were within striking distance for more than a couple of
minutes in the second half. Right and the only obvious
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And it's early, not a dope eighteen week season. We're
not even two weeks through, but this feels like a
championship level roster and energy. Here's Micah Parsons. He sat
with the Amazon crew and talked about his acclimation to
a new team.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Talk to me about the process and how much time
you spent just learning the playbook and make me getting adjusted?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah, you know. First, as soon as our you know,
the trade happened, I was like, man, well you want
me to come in? I'm super ecstatic. And then the
second process is are you willing to come in early?
Are you willing to stay later? And I just think
it's fun When I learned new things, I get like excited.
When the DC comes up to me, it's like, we're
excited to have you. I got so many ways I
want to use you. But you got to learn this.
I'm like, all right, we'll hurry up. So you know,
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it just gets me excited.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Then, Jeff's a hell of a play call.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Jeff is Jeff Hafley. Here's Jayden Daniels talking about the loss.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
They executed their scheme, whatever it was, they executed really
well because they won the game and we just didn't
make plays. Starts with me, starts with everybody of friends,
starts with the whole offensive skill group. So it's not
pointing the finger at anybody collectively. We're all to blame.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Man.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
We'll get back to work.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Fettering guy, mature guy. He's only a second year, but
he just sounds like you're growing up. I don't know.
I still like Jayden Daniels. I walk away just incredibly
impressed with the energy of the Packers. Look it is
really and maybe some of that energy fades because the
trade was late in the preseason, and so this is
you know, you got a chance to see him twice
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in four days. Now kind of real work begins. Is
now he'll get a chance to get in complete football
shape and have complete working knowledge of what he's supposed
to do. But when you look at the Packers and
what's ahead of them schedule wise, and what it looks
like for him. I mean again, look this is they
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have extra time off. Then they go to the Browns.
I mean out of the Browns good. I don't know,
but you get three days extra prep and you're a
really good team. Then they go to the Cowboys. That's
obviously that would be the Micah Parsons Bowl. Then you
have the week off Bengals at home, at Cardinals at Stealers,
which will be insane, Panthers Eagles at home that'll be
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insane to the Giants, and so on and so forth.
We move down the line like I just you can't
be in a better position than too and zero one
notable injury and being feeling this good about yourself with
this amount of energy and not at least admit, yeah, look,
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does that mean they go to and win a Super Bowl?
I don't know, but that felt like super Bowl energy,
much like great couples feel like they're gonna make it
long term marital energy, much like college sports team feels
like championship energy. Byer, what did you think of the
other white uniforms? That's actually I wanted to ask you
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the whole time on text, and I decided I'm just
gonna wait until the show.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Okay, well I can. I can weigh in on the
Packers as well if you'd like.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But uniform, you are the official uniform connoisseur of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Well, they wore these last year as well, and the
thing that a lot of US uniform lovers would have
liked to have seen which was missing was a yellow
stripe on the helmet. I think it's a really good
look for Green Bay, but the helmet almost just doesn't
look like it matches when the uniform has yellow stripes
down the side and on the sleeves of the jersey
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and then it doesn't have one on the helmet. If
it would connect with the helmet, it would be a
really really good look. Kind of reminds me of when
the Lakers unveiled their white uniforms. They were so used
to the Lakers wearing purple and gold, and then all
of a sudden, there was a white uniform and you're like, Wow,
that's really clean, that's a really good look. And I
feel that that's the same thing with these Packer uniforms.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, I could use a little yet you'll use a
little yellow to pop, use a little yellow pop. Did
you I know it wasn't a terribly clean game. Do
you agree that it feels like a different energy.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Yeah. And I think that the Micah Parsons deal did that.
I think there's a lot of reasons why if you're
a Green Bay you do that trade. Number one is
to get a player of that caliber and in your
window right now. But what it's also done, as you said,
it's put this energy into this fan base that they
haven't had before. I think it gives confidence to your team,
to your players to say that, Wow, they think that
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we are ready to go. They think that we are
a super Bowl caliber and they're willing to put it
on the line for us. I thought Green Bay's corners
last night against Washington were magnificent. Of Valentine and Nixon
a great job in shutting down Washington and Jaden Daniels
are basically keeping them in check. I mean, it seemed
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like the zach Ertz Show for a little while there.
It was the only thing that was going for Washington.
So that has the trickle down effect. And Doug schedules wise,
they they were given some favors, but I don't think
that we can over state what beating Detroit and Washington,
a team that we thought that could contend for the
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or some thought could contend for an NFC championship, maybe
a Super Bowl berth and then to beat the Lions,
the team that's kind of been your bugaboo for the
last couple of years. And to do both of those
in relatively easy fashion. I thought green Bay dominated both games. Yeah,
really impressive with green Bay.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, I just I the the beating the Lions. Do
people know they had one divisional win last year and
it was basically was a botch kicked by the by
the by the Bears, like one divisional win. So now
you have two wins, granted both were at home, but
against two very likely playoff teams or what we if
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anybody was to be a prognosticator, and I know Jase
two we talked about, you know, predictions are really hard
in this legue. But still you would say, like Lions
commanders in the playoff, not a crazy surprise, those are
those are big ones. But it was it's the the
cornerback are better because you have somebody who you have
less time to get rid of the football because he's
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coming after you.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
And this is the team by the way that again
was kind of at that stalemate with JayR Alexander and
then ultimately just decided And I know that went back further,
but they end up just ultimately releasing him, and those
guys step up. They stepped up big last night.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Can we give Buyer some credit?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (11:25):
Twenty four hours ago, Buyer in our first open of
the show here brought a stat to everybody's attention. Very
interesting stuff. I don't want to misrepresent it, Dan, but
I think it won along the lines of the Packers
quarterbacks in the history of their franchise that have won
Super Bowls all cashed in on their twenty seventh year
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they were twenty seven. Somebody with the Amazon production obviously
was listening. They had that front and center with a
stupid cartoon during the show. So credit to Dan Bayer
for doing the homework of the Amazon producers.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
I think it was just a storyline, especially in the
most recent window of Farvarn Rogers. Those are the two
quarterbacks and the one Super Bowl that they won happened
to be when they were twenty seven. Jordan Love Yes
turns twenty seven this year. Does so in November and
when if the Packers make it to the Super Bowl,
he'll be twenty seven at that time. So it's all
there for him in a team that's the super Bowl caliber.
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And now you just wonder, gosh, if they're better than
the Eagles, then they're the best team in the NFC.
Because they showed they're better than the Lions and Commanders
right now. Pretty impressive. But twenty seven was the magic number.
Part Star was twenty seven as well. I didn't even
include that in the stat.
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the boom X Boom. So there are signs when things
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are amiss right, and with sports teams, those signs can
generally be buy the language right, buy the language is bad,
and oftentimes look, it doesn't matter the sport. But when
it's grown ups, grown men like they can do, they
keep it together better. Sometimes. Can they get frustrated, Absolutely absolutely,
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But that frustration that they have, that they feel that exists,
that is absolutely real. Okay, that frustration, it can You
can just sense it in the personal interactions at times.
It's not when a coach speaks, it's what the guy
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is doing when he speaks. It's when the coach walks away,
does he roll his eyes, does he talk ish about
the coach? Same thing with players, there's sometimes you can
see it amiss. Oftentimes when teams are dysfunctional. You can
see it when there just isn't the fight to get
back in the game. And it may be one guy,
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it may be a bunch, or it just may be
a theme. The most obvious sign that something isn't right
is when you're like, hey, we gotta have meetings. Nobody
has players only meetings when things are going well, the
Packers have the weekend off. They just beat the Washington
Commanders after beating the Detroit Lions in subsequent weeks, Does
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anybody think for a second that Jordan loves gonna go? Hey,
fellas listen. I know we're two and zero, but we
got to get some things. Lyned doubt players only meeting
on Saturday. No, no, now, maybe you should. Maybe it'd
be smart. Right, It's like, uh, it's like preventive care.
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And people only go to therapy when something's gone wrong.
They don't just keep going to I know a smart
people like I go to therapy all the time, got it.
But a couple's therapy, it's great. I would encourage you
to go go when things are good and just keep
you know, just keep that open, honest conversation with each other.
But reality is you call a couple's therapists, you know,
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because things aren't good, then you're trying to fix them.
So the Dolphins played one football game and in what
feels like record time, they've had a player's only meeting.
Here's a here's a Dolphins linebacker, uh talking about the
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player talking to reporters about the players only meeting.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Losing the way we did, we won, it can be discouraging,
you know, outside noise people talking, fans talking, family talking, whoever,
everybody's talking, but just kind of making sure that everybody's
like together. When you lose like that, it's easy for
people to get discouraged and you know, start looking and
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questioning maybe yourself or others. So making sure that we
all locked back in and make sure that the belief
instead of you lose belief, you don't have nothing, And
so making sure that everybody's still on the same page
and come back next week.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Struggle.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Jordan Brooks is the Dolphins linebacker. You had the visual
of Tyreek Hill being visually upset at either not getting
the ball, but again, you don't know, we can't read
like it might have been a lot of things. Right,
Remember this is a guy who's being sued by his
by the mom of his kids as well. You're like, well,
is that what's bothering me is not the ball? But
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bother him is that he's not as good as he
used to be? As bothered him? Is it because he's
they're gonna trade him? As like, what's going on? You
can't tell? Jordan Brooks gave a lot of said a
lot of things. It was mostly a word salad. But
when you say we're not we gotta make sure we're
on the same page, that means you weren't on the
same page. Anybody dispute that, of course, not. There's no
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dispute for that, none zero, no disputing it. So what
do you what do you do? You call a team
meaning together, But that does make it even more obvious
that something is amiss. Now, the good thing is they
got the Patriots at home. The Patriots massively whipped on
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their first game of the season. But if you can
whift that bad at home, and you got to go
to Miami. And this is the time of year where
the Dolphins always play well at home because it's twenty
five degrees warmer and fifty percent more humidity than wherever
you're coming from. This is a week in which Miami,
who's a one and a half point favorite, should take
care of business. But if they don't, they go to
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the Bills next week. Now they have Jets, Panthers, Chargers,
even at home Browns, there's some games that they could
win in there, especially when you again, when you're playing
at home. But the old we're not on the same
page thing. We're talking one week in the season and
those guys didn't play in the preseason, so they've played
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together for one game and already there's infight into where
they need a players only meeting. What a mess what
a mess? What a mess? Buyer? Is this fixable?
Speaker 6 (18:50):
No? Absolutely not. It is. Yeah, it's over, But this
isn't different than other NFL teams have had in the past.
I think that there are certain things that are unique
about it. But Mike McDaniel's not going to finish the season.
I think we know that, especially after what happened in
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week one, it's going to be sooner rather than later.
We're pointing as soon as week three. Yes, this is
this is over.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Do you think it's over? How much of the responsibility
is that of Mike McDaniel, I would say, a great
I'm going to ask you your opinion, so please. It
feels like I asked.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
A question, not as much as you think.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Well again, I have a little bit, not a ton,
but I have a little bit of inside knowledge in
that some of it is is optics, okay, and some
of it is a little bit of inside knowledge. So
I was told there was a group of guys last
year and most of them are gone. Tyreek Hill was
one of them that they just could they that the
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veterans on the team were like telling Mike Madana, you
gotta get him in line. You got to get them
in line like they're just and and look, Miami, we've
heard of South Beach flu right after you. When you
go down there and play in the NBA, that's a
real thing. It's a place where you can be a
professional or you can go have a really, really good time.
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But whatever was going on off the field or whatever
is going on in terms of locking in with teammates,
there was a general discontent with guys like Tyreek Hill,
guys like a Jalen Ramsey, some of the other guys
that have been sent packing. But that falls on the
head coach. And I think that he came in and
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he had the swag joyasonph Bentley, and he's got all.
He has these quirky press conferences which he's entertaining. He's
a matter of fact, but at some point you gotta
be a leader, and sometimes to be a leader of men,
he kinda got it. There's a balance there between everyone
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hating you and everyone respecting you. And I'm not saying
they don't respect him, but they definitely don't fear him,
and they had a bad chemistry mix. And then the
I think the bigger part is that no matter what
you do, your quarterback's not good enough.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
Like there's yeah, this and there. I could see why
Mike McDaniel would get flack. I understand that, I think,
fairly or unfairly for people that may not like his stick,
may not like his style. I think that he's gonna
get criticism for that. But even setting that aside, I
think that he maximized Tua for what Tua could be.
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I don't think that Tyreek kill was ever. We knew
at some point that Tyreek Hill situation was not going
to work out. I mean, if the Chiefs are willing
to trade you when you're at the top of your
game and you're winning Super Bowls, that should tell you something.
And he had a great couple of seasons with Miami,
but at some point something's going to happen. He's either
not going to be Tyreek Hill on the field anymore,
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there's going to be off the field stuff. And Hecky
gets pulled over prior to Week one of last year,
so that had an expiration date. This was also dug
a team five six years ago that was set up
so pretty with first round picks that you thought that
the Dolphins were trying to build a foundation from you
for the future. Tuo was one of those first round picks.
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One year they had three first rounders, the next year
they had two. Two and Jalen Waddell are two of them.
They also were docked the first round pick because they
tampered with Tom Brady. So while it's all on McDaniel's
shoulders right now, I just think the organization is a
complete mess. And I even just brought up yesterday on
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the Network of Dave Wanstead is the longest tenured head
coach of the Dolphins since Don Shula was the head coach.
He was there for five years. Jimmy Johnson was there
for four years. And that Cowboys documentary that we all watched,
I think, by and large, the way they portrayed Jimmy
Johnson's tenure in Miami was a failure. Would you get
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that sense compared to what he did with the Cowboys,
Jason you watched, it didn't sound like Jimmy Johnson's success
in Miami was that good. They made the playoffs three
out of four years at that point. Now you look
back and you say, here's a Dolphins team with Mike McDaniel,
by the way, the third highest winning percentage of any
of those coaches since Don Shula, So I get it,
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like I understand, like Mike McDaniel is definitely not going
to make it through the season. But that's why I
am not willing to put as much of it on
McDaniel as I think he did max out Tua. I
think he made it work with Tyreek Hill, and all
of this stuff was at some point going to expire.
And for a franchise that hasn't shown us really anything
in twenty five years of having any stability, whether it
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be Steven Ross or other ownership, it's difficult for me
to say that this is all Mike McDaniel's fault.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I think that's completely fair. And he did max out Tua,
and you know, they extended Tua, and at the end
of the day, I think Tua is ultimately the one
who gets them all fired. Right. Is the chemistry off?
Is their talent off? Did they miss on things? They
lose the first round pick? Is it his message? Great?
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But if Tua was justin Herbert, then we be fine.
That's just the reality of it, And and you know
we have to let's go on a weekly basis, we'll
see if we can pin him down. I was told
not by Tom but by others that if the moment
had come up that they could have had Tua or Herbert.
I think they would have taken Tua despite the fact
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who's coming off the hip. I don't know that for
a fact, But ultimately that's what gets you because you're
so limited in what you can do offensively. Where he
has to get it, he has to get rid of
it quick and then you have to win quickly. And
if you don't, he's just not a guy that can
play with extended plays because he's not crazy mobile and
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he's been hurt, so he's a little he can be
and then he's he's been reckless and gotten concussions. Like
where do I sign up for a guy who's had
hip surgery and multiple concussions where we thought maybe last
year he should hang up playing football, but it is crazy. Huh,
it's just not good. No, yeah, no, no. And and
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then again, after you've had those concussions, how are you
gonna play? You're gonna play differently, You're gonna get rid
of that foot. If you thought I got rid of
it fast last year, wait do you see this year?
And everybody knows that, so what do they do? They
jam their guys they they pressure them, they get them
off their routes. They just like they used to do
with Peyton with Peyton Manning, only Peyton Manning. He can't
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make plays when he's off time. But it did no good.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
They traded a first rounder to move up to get
Jalen Waddle. Yeah, you know, like there's another there's another
move with it of a misstep in the draft. They were,
they were set up. If you rewind the tape, you
go back to us talking about.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
The trade Laramie Tunseel. They were really set up.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
Yeah, yep, because of the hall that got.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, and and I would say that the Jayleen model
thing was let's get the best weapons possible for this
dynamic offense and this dynamic coach and this dynamic quarterback. Oops. Oops.
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App Stut Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. So he was
speaking with media earlier this week and Dan for for
people who are new to the show, Dan Bayer is
a huge Seahawks fan, so I definitely want him to
be part of this discussion anyway, Steelers wide receiver DK
Metcalf said he feels no extra juice this week as
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the Seahawks face his team, the Steelers. Remember the Seahawks
draft him in twenty nineteen, traded him this offseason. Quote,
it's just another team on the schedule that just so
happens to be playing the Pittsburgh Steelers. We've got to
go out there and do everything we can to try
and win. It's just another football game. Prepare like it's
any other football game, because after this they're gonna prepare
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for their next moment, the next step on the schedule.
It's just how it is. It's not different at all. Yeah,
I don't think that. I think that's crap, Right, that's
the that sounds like a coach and coach speak and
it's about us and not about them, and and worry
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about us and one game at a time, and this
game doesn't matter anymore than like what huh? And I
understand there's a lot of turnover in Seattle, right, and
maybe a better way to articulate what it would be. Look,
that's a different gentle manager and a different coach and
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a different owner than one that drafted me. That's fair, Okay,
but to say those things, is John Steinder still their GM.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Yes, okay, my mistake, but it is.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Different owner, different owner because the owner died and then
this has took over and yeah, all that stuff so
different coaching staff, wildly, different personnel, different, you know, different
just about everything. It's easier to disconnect that way, and
you might say last year he was a little disconnected anyway,
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But I just I mean, this is this would have been.
This is a third really third starting quarterback in Seattle,
and he went through two GENO after Russ. So I
understand some of it. But I just don't know anybody
who's a competitor who doesn't want to kick the ass
of the team that traded him released him, even even
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when it's not the team's fault. Right, you sign as
a free agent with another team, you're still mad at
your first team who drafted you, believed and you played
you for however many years? Bira, what do you think
as a Seahawks fan, how's that land on you?
Speaker 6 (29:27):
I'm not I'm not shocked. I actually think that it
shows professionalism from DK Metcalf and maybe what the Steelers
are trying to prove. I also think that the surroundings
around DK Metcalf, specifically Aaron Rodgers, specifically Jalen Ramsey who
he had great showdowns with when Ramsey was with the
Rams and and DK was with the Seahawks. They're all
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coming from other former teams as well, so maybe they have,
you know, in an act to grind with the Dolphins.
We saw last week with the Jets and Rogers comments
afterwards being what they were. But I'm not shocked that
he's not making a big deal out of it because
I think that's what you want to do in that scenario.
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We'll see if his play shows on the field. But
this is the mix of DK Doug is. We think
that DK is maybe this hot head and he's got
the face paints with the lightning bolt and the earring.
Yet what's the play that we remember most from DK
Metcalf running down Buddha Baker on an interception and the
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extreme hustle of it. And he had a mixed It
was kind of like a mixed relationship with Seattle. There
was a little love, there was some frustration because there
weren't like enormous big game catches that you remember from him.
But you loved his passion. You loved his effort and
he was a physical freak and he did make great
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plays for Seattle. He's to me, Doug, it's just kind
of one of those like AJ Brown being dealt by
the Titans of the Eagles, their college teammates. It's kind
of similar. Didn't fit what the Seahawks were doing making
the change. They paid less for Sam Donald, They're invested
a little bit more on defense, and happened to be
one of those things. But I don't I think he'll
look at it as a revenge game and maybe say afterwards,
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but not shocked that he said this prior.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I don't love it. I mean again, I do think
it shows a professionalism in what you say. But there's
a way in which you can say it. Stug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's get to Mark Dominic, who's
former general manager with the Tampay Buccaneers twenty years the
Nation Football League. He joins us every week on the show.
(31:43):
Let's get to what we were just talking about. DK
Metcalfs like, ah, just another game. How's that land on
you when you're a general manager.
Speaker 9 (31:52):
It just felt like a team that didn't have the
energy they usually have. The Communders didn't feel like they
had the moxi or the juice that we saw from
him last year. You know, they didn't really come out
really great against the Giants either, and so I think
they're I'm hoping it feels like it's just a team that's,
you know, trying to work themselves into the right shape,
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into the right charisma, into the right situation. We've got
the Raiders coming up next. But they they felt flat
for two weeks, and that's not the team we're expecting
to see. And and even if you are honest with yourself, Doug,
you know, knowing coach so well, he didn't feel like
he had the normal Dan coach Quinn energy even on interviews,
and so it just felt like the team wasn't on
patas or on par for what they're usually going to be.
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I have a feeling that will change, but the Raiders
next week has to feel spark.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Okay, let me ask you about about Aaron Rodgers. How
do you think he looked weak?
Speaker 6 (32:45):
One?
Speaker 9 (32:46):
I thought Aaron played well. I mean, I know the
numbers were great, but I thought he played well and
made the throws. I mean, the thing that really showed
to me was, And I think the best way to
say is when you see older quarterbacks, right, it's hard
not to think of sadly, you know, as great as
he was and is Peyton Manning, you can feel like
when he was still on the ball, it was like
you can get it out, come on, you can do it.
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You just felt like he's like, what wasn't natural, wasn't easy.
It was like I'm going to really have to throw
my arm into this one, where with Rogers you could
still see the ball just still pops out of his hand.
I mean, so the the biggest thing to me is
the arm talents still right where it needs to be,
and that's the huge part about it, and I think
that's the most encouraging thing about it. You know, the
Jets certainly offensively played and called a great offensive game.
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Surprisingly to the Steelers defense was more concerning to me
than Aaron Rodgers as an offensive player.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Uh okay, Aaron Rodgers former team. The Packers are now
two and zero. Again, I don't want to go crazy.
I'm not crazy Packers fan. I do. I enjoy being
a fan, but I feel like it's really early. It
was a sloppy game, but that felt like a championship
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energy sort of in the building that Micah Parsons just
changes them him and then Jordan Love and you know,
year three as a starter, he's different. There's a level
of calm to him. What's your thoughts on the Packers
two games in.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
Yeah, it just continues to build off of what I
thought this summer. And you know, we talked about what
the impact I thought for Michael Parsons would be, and
I thought that was the piece that you know, there's
a lot about the continuity, you know, and the way
that defense is humming. I mean to hold you know,
the Commanders to fifty yards rushing. You know, that's you know,
they just are playing so well together so early. And
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again it's a young football team both sides of the ball,
and it's it's energetic coordinators and and you know, coaches
across the board, and so it's a great start for
the agreement Packers. They I mean, you would walk if
we could take us a month back and say, hey, look,
the Packers are going to win both games pretty easily.
In the fourth quarter. They're not going to be sweating
the Detroit Lions or the Commanders. You'd say, wow, that's
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a pretty impressive team. So I think you have every
right to be optimistic in Green Bay, saying, and you
know it's our division. Now we've got to see if
it's our conference.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Let's take the Lions first. It was only one game,
new coordinators, some new pieces. How much of it is
it's just the first game of the year. There's a
lot to be worked out. How much should there be
alarms going off considering how dynamic this team was, especially offensively.
Speaker 9 (35:24):
Yeah, I think we'll learn a lot again with them
this week. I mean, the Packers are going to be
a formal opponent for everybody to have a feeling. But
what we'll see against the Bears, I think we'll really
kind of tell us where Detroit is. I'm not an
alarmist on this one. I still think they're going to
find their rhythm and still be that team that's going
to make the postseason, and they're gonna have every reason,
you know, when they play the Packers again, and maybe
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they're playing three times this year. But I'm not scared
of where they are. I know that the coordinator thing
is real, and Aaron Glens impacked and the Jets was encouraging, right,
But I think what you'll see this week, I think
will be a little bit more of a tall tale
sign of what they're going to be all season long.
And we'll see how they play against the Bears. But
I'm not I'm not an alarmist on that one.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Stuck Gottlieb Show Here on Fox Sports Radio, Mark Dominic
is our guest, what happened to the Texans two years ago?
Kind of took the league by storm, really competitive, getting
the playoffs, competitive in the playoffs, lose to the Rams,
disappointing year. What what happened?
Speaker 9 (36:23):
You know? I think that they really struggled trying to
find that offensive line there, right, and then they turn
around and they remove larr and Mutunsel from the team.
You know, the guy last year was starting for him
as Juice Scruggs, and now he's not. You know, they
keep moving around different guys on their own on their
own offensive line. I think that's the piece that's they
can't find that continuity, which is so as you know,
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so important. I mean again, it's it's what is it?
It's uh, Titus Howard's now moved over to right guard.
I mean he's been left tackle, right tackle guard. I
mean they can't find it. So I think that they're
struggling trying to find the offensive line and and and
until they get that settled, I think that's what's really
hurting this football team right now. And you know, obviously
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they've got new guys out there in Blakelyn Dolinson in
the draft choice and Cam Robinson. So until that gets
settled down, I think you're going to see the same
problems that you're going to see a somewhat inconsistent team
that doesn't have the same moxie that it did a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I I watched the the Miami Dolphins, and I know
they had a players only meeting. I know they got
issues with Tyreek Hill, but I think their biggest issue
is they signed the wrong guy at quarterback. Right I
just am I being too harsh that the Dolphins thing
between McDaniel not seeming to have to be as discipline
(37:45):
oriented as he needs to be with some of those guys,
and then they've they've kind of figured out TOOA that
just feels if that thing feels like a.
Speaker 9 (37:53):
Mess, it's it's definitely feels like a mess. It's definitely.
As a former GM they have a player's only meeting
after week one is almost unheard of, and so that
is a bigger red flag to me than anything, is
that they didn't realize this entire time that they weren't
(38:13):
put together. You know, that they weren't you know, giving
their best effort, and they weren't working together together to
try to get to where they need to be, and
they weren't helding each other accountable if somebody else isn't.
So all those things were those are you know, big concerns.
And look, they're going to play a Patriots team that's
clearly better with coach Brabele, who doesn't have the roster
that he needs to have still, but they're trying to
put it together. We'll see what they look like the Dolphins.
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I get the sense we'll see a little bit better team.
In terms of Tua. You know, I'm not gonna I'm
not going to go there with him just yet and say, boy,
they signed the wrong quarterback. They don't have a lot
of options in Miami. I think they understood and they
banked off of what they had the year before. So
let's I need this was one where I need I
need a Patriots game to kind of get a better sense,
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but to lose to the Colts the way they did,
to have a player's only meeting just continues. And knowing
mister Ross and how you know, sometimes he's got a
pretty quick leash in terms of head coaches. I think
this one's got you know, three or four weeks. This
team is one in four or one in five. I
think you'll see have changed really quick in Miami. I'm afraid.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, It's it's crazy how quick that can it can
it can just get away from you. Just really, what
are your thoughts on Caleb Williams after watching him.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
Monday, I still still don't trust the accuracy, Still don't
like him throwing on the move the way I would
like to see him. You know, it's no different than
who else struggled. To me after I went back and watching.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
It, Caleb.
Speaker 9 (39:39):
Murray, Kyler Murray, it was the same thing. He just
you know, the movement throws just it was like, there
are opportunities there and you've got to take advantage of
when the good guys do that, I mean, the really
good ones can do that. And Caleb to me, still
didn't show that, you know, the opportunities were there. Could
he take advantage of it, and so you know, I
thought it was average and and for how much they've
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worked on that, you know, they had a shot to
win the game, and they certainly weren't positioned. It all
fell apart. It's how it works in the nationalbo League.
That sixty minutes. But you know, there's nothing easy for
the Chicago Bears. Detroit at Detroit this week, and so
I think they've got an early buy this year. I
think it's like week four, week five, So they need
to have some spark going into that one. And I
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know that they've got at least Detroit and Dallas coming up,
I think the Raiders after that. So Caleb's got to
show that he can lead the team and be the leader,
but make the plays when they're there, and right now
he's just not doing that still.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Mark Dominic's our guests, a former general manager Tampa Bay
Buccaneers join us. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
JJ McCarthy really tight, nervous, why shouldn't it be? First
game started? But then did make some plays late, some
of them were dialed up for him. What's your lovel
of confidence in JJ McCarthy moving forward?
Speaker 9 (40:53):
Well, it's it's you know again, I'd like to see
a full game of it. You know, that's the most
important part. But what you liked is, you know, the
way it sounded like he handled the huddle, the way
he sounded like when things needed to get done, he
could take care of it. And you know, in the
confidence I think that he grew by the way he
handled the huddle. You know, I think those are all
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exciting things for Vikings fans that you know, here's a
guy that when he needed to make a play, he did,
and he dialed up or not. You still got to
make the play, right, you still got to make the throw.
He's still got to make the opportunity. And so you know,
that was good. I thought he'd actually played a little
bit better than he did. But I'm hoping that you know,
he's again he's building on really his first game ever
in the National Football League as a starter. Not really,
but it is and now he's got it, you know,
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an Atlanta team that was competitive in Week one. That
we'll see what they can look like. But uh, I
think that I'm still on the happy side of JJ.
You know, I just want to you know, he needs
to get his games in and get his goosebumps out.
But oh in all the way he handled the huddle,
the confidence he put into the players around him, I
think helped will that the Vikings team to that victory.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
It's a show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark Dominic
is our guest. Was the Bills come back more about
the Bills or about the Ravens.
Speaker 9 (42:09):
I think it was more about the Bills. I mean,
what happened with Derek Henry and the fumble heard around
the world. You know, that's disappointing, obviously for such a
guy that was just dominating. I mean, it felt like
there was no answer for the Ravens, right, It felt
like the Bills had no shot. But you know, when
you get a tip the ball and end up in
a touchdown in fourth and two, you know, you just
realize this might not be our night. And I don't
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think it's anything bad about the Ravens. It's had unfortunate
things happened that usually don't. Derek Henry doesn't put the
ball down on the ground very often, and you usually
don't get some random tip ball turns into a touchdown
in fourth and too. So you know, I think the
Ravens are fine. You know, I think that the Bills.
There was an amazing victory for them both. I think
they play each other again in the postseason, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
About it, no doubt about it, no no doubt about it.
Who's the team that we haven't discussed that we need.
Speaker 9 (42:58):
To I guess if you you know, that's a good one,
Doug when you said to think about who all played
well week one or who kind of surprised you and
looked better than expected. I mean, the Colts were probably
the number one team that was like, wait a second,
what's going on? What happened there? I want to see
a little bit more of the Colts, the Chargers, of
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the team that I've always kind of felt it could
take a step. And I know losing Slater's a tough loss,
but I just felt like the Charges were a team
that was going to take a big step this year,
and I thought they can win the division. I feel
still confident in that, but I thought the Colts. I
want to see what they can do back to back
because that was the team that surprised me more than anybody.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Mark have a great weekend. Thanks so much for joining us.
Appreciates me our guests in
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fall twenty five Bring the Boom Max Boom. Uh. Let's
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get into it. Last night, great night at Lambeau. Uh.
I mean, I guess I gotta ask Danbyer what he
thinks of the of the Icy Way Green Bay Pack.
But I I've been a broadcaster, obviously much longer than
I've been a coach. I've been in sports my entire life,
and I there's something that we haven't discussed a bunch,
(01:16):
but it's a real thing. I call it championship energy.
I championship energy. And I remember I've I went to
Villanova's practices usually like once a year. Jay Wright would
let me know, like once a year, sometimes when I
was doing a game, sometimes when I wasn't doing a
game or whatever. And the year they won their first championship,
I went to their practice because I was calling a
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seat Hall game they won down at the end of
at the end of the game against seat Hall, and
I remember turning to maybe their sid at the time,
and I said, like, does this feel different from different
than other years? And he's like it does. I said
it does to me too. Now this is before they
went out and started just eviscerating people. Beat Oklahoma by
(01:59):
what forty four points in the semi finals, and obviously
one on incredible Chris Jenkins three point shot to beat
North Carolina. So I'm not going to tell you that
at that very moment, at that very moment, I knew
this is going to be a championship team. But when
you are around teams that have just kind of that
(02:23):
right chemical mixture. It's no different than when you're around couples.
Right when you're around couples and they're dating and you're like,
how long guys been together? Like two months? Like, wow,
you guys look like you've been together for twenty years?
Would't people with twenty years? Usually they don't care about
each other. I'm kidding. But the point is that you
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can field championship couples, you can field championship teams. There's
just a different field to it. And maybe it's because, yes,
I'm boots on the ground, I live in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Maybe it's because I have gotten a chance to get
to know some of the coaches, some of the players,
and I'm drinking some of the kool aid. But in
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what was an ugly game was not crazy competitive from
the commander's perspective, and anytime it was close, the Packers
like Pordge is better than you. Here's Jordan Love talking
about the win and his defense after the game.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Ten days in to this NFL season, you're two to
zero against divisional contenders.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
How did you do it tonight?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Just team victories right there, back to back. You know,
defense been dominant, been shutting people down. In offense, we've
been doing a great job putting up points and you know,
finishing these games off. But it's a great start to
the season. We just gotta keep building on it. What
impressed you most about the way your defense contained Jaydan
Daniels the whole offense over there. That's a really good offense,
and just the way the defense been flying around. You know,
obviously we didn't get a turnover tonight, but they're hunting
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that ball and they're flying around making a lot of plays.
So you hold a good offense like that to eighteen
points and let us go go score, we're gonna win
those games.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's a good football team. I don't think anybody would
argue I would say that it doesn't mean they're going
to go to the Super Bowl, and lots of things
can happen. I mean, they had one of the best
wide receivers breaks his collarbone yet yesterday, right They injuries
can destroy it and you can get in a bad
stretch and what looks like what looks like utopia can
turn on you. But that's a good football team. They
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whatever becomes of the Lions as they'll grow and evolve
with the new offensive coordinator, whatever becomes of the commanders,
as you know, they want to know and dominated the Giants,
but it's been sloppy for them. They're very both both
very likely or supposed to be playoff teams, and neither
were within striking distance for more than a couple of
minutes in the second half. Right and the only obvious
(04:51):
And it's early, not a dope eighteen week season. We're
not even two weeks through, but this feels like a
championship level roster and energy. Here's Micah Parsons. He sat
with the Amazon crew and talked about his acclimation to
a new team.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Talk to me about the process and how much time
you spent just learning the playbook and make me getting adjusted?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah, you know. First, as soon as our you know,
the trade happened, I was like, man, well you want
me to come in? I'm super ecstatic. And then the
second process is are you willing to come in early?
Are you willing to stay later? And I just think
it's fun When I learned new things, I get like excited.
When the DC comes up to me, it's like, we're
excited to have you. I got so many ways I
want to use you. But you got to learn this.
I'm like, all right, we'll hurry up. So you know,
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it just gets me excited.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Then, Jeff's a hell of a play call.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Jeff is Jeff Hafley. Here's Jayden Daniels talking about the loss.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
They executed their scheme, whatever it was, they executed really
well because they won the game and we just didn't
make plays. Starts with me, starts with everybody of friends,
starts with the whole offensive skill group. So it's not
pointing the finger at anybody collectively. We're all to blame.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Man.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
We'll get back to work.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Fettering guy, mature guy. He's only a second year, but
he just sounds like you're growing up. I don't know.
I still like Jayden Daniels. I walk away just incredibly
impressed with the energy of the Packers. Look it is
really and maybe some of that energy fades because the
trade was late in the preseason, and so this is
you know, you got a chance to see him twice
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in four days. Now kind of real work begins. Is
now he'll get a chance to get in complete football
shape and have complete working knowledge of what he's supposed
to do. But when you look at the Packers and
what's ahead of them schedule wise, and what it looks
like for him. I mean again, look this is they
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have extra time off. Then they go to the Browns.
I mean out of the Browns good. I don't know,
but you get three days extra prep and you're a
really good team. Then they go to the Cowboys. That's
obviously that would be the Micah Parsons Bowl. Then you
have the week off Bengals at home, at Cardinals at Stealers,
which will be insane, Panthers Eagles at home that'll be
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insane to the Giants, and so on and so forth.
We move down the line like I just you can't
be in a better position than too and zero one
notable injury and being feeling this good about yourself with
this amount of energy and not at least admit, yeah, look,
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does that mean they go to and win a Super Bowl?
I don't know, but that felt like super Bowl energy,
much like great couples feel like they're gonna make it
long term marital energy, much like college sports team feels
like championship energy. Byer, what did you think of the
other white uniforms? That's actually I wanted to ask you
(07:54):
the whole time on text, and I decided I'm just
gonna wait until the show.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Okay, well I can. I can weigh in on the
Packers as well if you'd like.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
But uniform, you are the official uniform connoisseur of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Well, they wore these last year as well, and the
thing that a lot of US uniform lovers would have
liked to have seen which was missing was a yellow
stripe on the helmet. I think it's a really good
look for Green Bay, but the helmet almost just doesn't
look like it matches when the uniform has yellow stripes
down the side and on the sleeves of the jersey
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and then it doesn't have one on the helmet. If
it would connect with the helmet, it would be a
really really good look. Kind of reminds me of when
the Lakers unveiled their white uniforms. They were so used
to the Lakers wearing purple and gold, and then all
of a sudden, there was a white uniform and you're like, Wow,
that's really clean, that's a really good look. And I
feel that that's the same thing with these Packer uniforms.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, I could use a little yet you'll use a
little yellow to pop, use a little yellow pop. Did
you I know it wasn't a terribly clean game. Do
you agree that it feels like a different energy.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Yeah. And I think that the Micah Parsons deal did that.
I think there's a lot of reasons why if you're
a Green Bay you do that trade. Number one is
to get a player of that caliber and in your
window right now. But what it's also done, as you said,
it's put this energy into this fan base that they
haven't had before. I think it gives confidence to your team,
to your players to say that, Wow, they think that
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we are ready to go. They think that we are
a super Bowl caliber and they're willing to put it
on the line for us. I thought Green Bay's corners
last night against Washington were magnificent. Of Valentine and Nixon
a great job in shutting down Washington and Jaden Daniels
are basically keeping them in check. I mean, it seemed
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like the zach Ertz Show for a little while there.
It was the only thing that was going for Washington.
So that has the trickle down effect. And Doug schedules wise,
they they were given some favors, but I don't think
that we can over state what beating Detroit and Washington,
a team that we thought that could contend for the
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or some thought could contend for an NFC championship, maybe
a Super Bowl berth and then to beat the Lions,
the team that's kind of been your bugaboo for the
last couple of years. And to do both of those
in relatively easy fashion. I thought green Bay dominated both games. Yeah,
really impressive with green Bay.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, I just I the the beating the Lions. Do
people know they had one divisional win last year and
it was basically was a botch kicked by the by
the by the Bears, like one divisional win. So now
you have two wins, granted both were at home, but
against two very likely playoff teams or what we if
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anybody was to be a prognosticator, and I know Jase
two we talked about, you know, predictions are really hard
in this legue. But still you would say, like Lions
commanders in the playoff, not a crazy surprise, those are
those are big ones. But it was it's the the
cornerback are better because you have somebody who you have
less time to get rid of the football because he's
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coming after you.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
And this is the team by the way that again
was kind of at that stalemate with JayR Alexander and
then ultimately just decided And I know that went back further,
but they end up just ultimately releasing him, and those
guys step up. They stepped up big last night.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
Can we give Buyer some credit?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (11:25):
Twenty four hours ago, Buyer in our first open of
the show here brought a stat to everybody's attention. Very
interesting stuff. I don't want to misrepresent it, Dan, but
I think it won along the lines of the Packers
quarterbacks in the history of their franchise that have won
Super Bowls all cashed in on their twenty seventh year
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they were twenty seven. Somebody with the Amazon production obviously
was listening. They had that front and center with a
stupid cartoon during the show. So credit to Dan Bayer
for doing the homework of the Amazon producers.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
I think it was just a storyline, especially in the
most recent window of Farvarn Rogers. Those are the two
quarterbacks and the one Super Bowl that they won happened
to be when they were twenty seven. Jordan Love Yes
turns twenty seven this year. Does so in November and
when if the Packers make it to the Super Bowl,
he'll be twenty seven at that time. So it's all
there for him in a team that's the super Bowl caliber.
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And now you just wonder, gosh, if they're better than
the Eagles, then they're the best team in the NFC.
Because they showed they're better than the Lions and Commanders
right now. Pretty impressive. But twenty seven was the magic number.
Part Star was twenty seven as well. I didn't even
include that in the stat.
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the boom X Boom. So there are signs when things
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are amiss right, and with sports teams, those signs can
generally be buy the language right, buy the language is bad,
and oftentimes look, it doesn't matter the sport. But when
it's grown ups, grown men like they can do, they
keep it together better. Sometimes. Can they get frustrated, Absolutely absolutely,
(13:47):
But that frustration that they have, that they feel that exists,
that is absolutely real. Okay, that frustration, it can You
can just sense it in the personal interactions at times.
It's not when a coach speaks, it's what the guy
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is doing when he speaks. It's when the coach walks away,
does he roll his eyes, does he talk ish about
the coach? Same thing with players, there's sometimes you can
see it amiss. Oftentimes when teams are dysfunctional. You can
see it when there just isn't the fight to get
back in the game. And it may be one guy,
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it may be a bunch, or it just may be
a theme. The most obvious sign that something isn't right
is when you're like, hey, we gotta have meetings. Nobody
has players only meetings when things are going well, the
Packers have the weekend off. They just beat the Washington
Commanders after beating the Detroit Lions in subsequent weeks, Does
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anybody think for a second that Jordan loves gonna go? Hey,
fellas listen. I know we're two and zero, but we
got to get some things. Lyned doubt players only meeting
on Saturday. No, no, now, maybe you should. Maybe it'd
be smart. Right, It's like, uh, it's like preventive care.
(15:14):
And people only go to therapy when something's gone wrong.
They don't just keep going to I know a smart
people like I go to therapy all the time, got it.
But a couple's therapy, it's great. I would encourage you
to go go when things are good and just keep
you know, just keep that open, honest conversation with each other.
But reality is you call a couple's therapists, you know,
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because things aren't good, then you're trying to fix them.
So the Dolphins played one football game and in what
feels like record time, they've had a player's only meeting.
Here's a here's a Dolphins linebacker, uh talking about the
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player talking to reporters about the players only meeting.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Losing the way we did, we won, it can be discouraging,
you know, outside noise people talking, fans talking, family talking, whoever,
everybody's talking, but just kind of making sure that everybody's
like together. When you lose like that, it's easy for
people to get discouraged and you know, start looking and
(16:24):
questioning maybe yourself or others. So making sure that we
all locked back in and make sure that the belief
instead of you lose belief, you don't have nothing, And
so making sure that everybody's still on the same page
and come back next week.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Struggle.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Jordan Brooks is the Dolphins linebacker. You had the visual
of Tyreek Hill being visually upset at either not getting
the ball, but again, you don't know, we can't read
like it might have been a lot of things. Right,
Remember this is a guy who's being sued by his
by the mom of his kids as well. You're like, well,
is that what's bothering me is not the ball? But
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bother him is that he's not as good as he
used to be? As bothered him? Is it because he's
they're gonna trade him? As like, what's going on? You
can't tell? Jordan Brooks gave a lot of said a
lot of things. It was mostly a word salad. But
when you say we're not we gotta make sure we're
on the same page, that means you weren't on the
same page. Anybody dispute that, of course, not. There's no
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dispute for that, none zero, no disputing it. So what
do you what do you do? You call a team
meaning together, But that does make it even more obvious
that something is amiss. Now, the good thing is they
got the Patriots at home. The Patriots massively whipped on
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their first game of the season. But if you can
whift that bad at home, and you got to go
to Miami. And this is the time of year where
the Dolphins always play well at home because it's twenty
five degrees warmer and fifty percent more humidity than wherever
you're coming from. This is a week in which Miami,
who's a one and a half point favorite, should take
care of business. But if they don't, they go to
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the Bills next week. Now they have Jets, Panthers, Chargers,
even at home Browns, there's some games that they could
win in there, especially when you again, when you're playing
at home. But the old we're not on the same
page thing. We're talking one week in the season and
those guys didn't play in the preseason, so they've played
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together for one game and already there's infight into where
they need a players only meeting. What a mess what
a mess? What a mess? Buyer? Is this fixable?
Speaker 6 (18:50):
No? Absolutely not. It is. Yeah, it's over, But this
isn't different than other NFL teams have had in the past.
I think that there are certain things that are unique
about it. But Mike McDaniel's not going to finish the season.
I think we know that, especially after what happened in
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week one, it's going to be sooner rather than later.
We're pointing as soon as week three. Yes, this is
this is over.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Do you think it's over? How much of the responsibility
is that of Mike McDaniel, I would say, a great
I'm going to ask you your opinion, so please. It
feels like I asked.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
A question, not as much as you think.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Well again, I have a little bit, not a ton,
but I have a little bit of inside knowledge in
that some of it is is optics, okay, and some
of it is a little bit of inside knowledge. So
I was told there was a group of guys last
year and most of them are gone. Tyreek Hill was
one of them that they just could they that the
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veterans on the team were like telling Mike Madana, you
gotta get him in line. You got to get them
in line like they're just and and look, Miami, we've
heard of South Beach flu right after you. When you
go down there and play in the NBA, that's a
real thing. It's a place where you can be a
professional or you can go have a really, really good time.
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But whatever was going on off the field or whatever
is going on in terms of locking in with teammates,
there was a general discontent with guys like Tyreek Hill,
guys like a Jalen Ramsey, some of the other guys
that have been sent packing. But that falls on the
head coach. And I think that he came in and
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he had the swag joyasonph Bentley, and he's got all.
He has these quirky press conferences which he's entertaining. He's
a matter of fact, but at some point you gotta
be a leader, and sometimes to be a leader of men,
he kinda got it. There's a balance there between everyone
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hating you and everyone respecting you. And I'm not saying
they don't respect him, but they definitely don't fear him,
and they had a bad chemistry mix. And then the
I think the bigger part is that no matter what
you do, your quarterback's not good enough.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
Like there's yeah, this and there. I could see why
Mike McDaniel would get flack. I understand that, I think,
fairly or unfairly for people that may not like his stick,
may not like his style. I think that he's gonna
get criticism for that. But even setting that aside, I
think that he maximized Tua for what Tua could be.
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I don't think that Tyreek kill was ever. We knew
at some point that Tyreek Hill situation was not going
to work out. I mean, if the Chiefs are willing
to trade you when you're at the top of your
game and you're winning Super Bowls, that should tell you something.
And he had a great couple of seasons with Miami,
but at some point something's going to happen. He's either
not going to be Tyreek Hill on the field anymore,
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there's going to be off the field stuff. And Hecky
gets pulled over prior to Week one of last year,
so that had an expiration date. This was also dug
a team five six years ago that was set up
so pretty with first round picks that you thought that
the Dolphins were trying to build a foundation from you
for the future. Tuo was one of those first round picks.
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One year they had three first rounders, the next year
they had two. Two and Jalen Waddell are two of them.
They also were docked the first round pick because they
tampered with Tom Brady. So while it's all on McDaniel's
shoulders right now, I just think the organization is a
complete mess. And I even just brought up yesterday on
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the Network of Dave Wanstead is the longest tenured head
coach of the Dolphins since Don Shula was the head coach.
He was there for five years. Jimmy Johnson was there
for four years. And that Cowboys documentary that we all watched,
I think, by and large, the way they portrayed Jimmy
Johnson's tenure in Miami was a failure. Would you get
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that sense compared to what he did with the Cowboys,
Jason you watched, it didn't sound like Jimmy Johnson's success
in Miami was that good. They made the playoffs three
out of four years at that point. Now you look
back and you say, here's a Dolphins team with Mike McDaniel,
by the way, the third highest winning percentage of any
of those coaches since Don Shula, So I get it,
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like I understand, like Mike McDaniel is definitely not going
to make it through the season. But that's why I
am not willing to put as much of it on
McDaniel as I think he did max out Tua. I
think he made it work with Tyreek Hill, and all
of this stuff was at some point going to expire.
And for a franchise that hasn't shown us really anything
in twenty five years of having any stability, whether it
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be Steven Ross or other ownership, it's difficult for me
to say that this is all Mike McDaniel's fault.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I think that's completely fair. And he did max out Tua,
and you know, they extended Tua, and at the end
of the day, I think Tua is ultimately the one
who gets them all fired. Right. Is the chemistry off?
Is their talent off? Did they miss on things? They
lose the first round pick? Is it his message? Great?
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But if Tua was justin Herbert, then we be fine.
That's just the reality of it, And and you know
we have to let's go on a weekly basis, we'll
see if we can pin him down. I was told
not by Tom but by others that if the moment
had come up that they could have had Tua or Herbert.
I think they would have taken Tua despite the fact
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who's coming off the hip. I don't know that for
a fact, But ultimately that's what gets you because you're
so limited in what you can do offensively. Where he
has to get it, he has to get rid of
it quick and then you have to win quickly. And
if you don't, he's just not a guy that can
play with extended plays because he's not crazy mobile and
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he's been hurt, so he's a little he can be
and then he's he's been reckless and gotten concussions. Like
where do I sign up for a guy who's had
hip surgery and multiple concussions where we thought maybe last
year he should hang up playing football, but it is crazy. Huh,
it's just not good. No, yeah, no, no. And and
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then again, after you've had those concussions, how are you
gonna play? You're gonna play differently, You're gonna get rid
of that foot. If you thought I got rid of
it fast last year, wait do you see this year?
And everybody knows that, so what do they do? They
jam their guys they they pressure them, they get them
off their routes. They just like they used to do
with Peyton with Peyton Manning, only Peyton Manning. He can't
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make plays when he's off time. But it did no good.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
They traded a first rounder to move up to get
Jalen Waddle. Yeah, you know, like there's another there's another
move with it of a misstep in the draft. They were,
they were set up. If you rewind the tape, you
go back to us talking about.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
The trade Laramie Tunseel. They were really set up.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
Yeah, yep, because of the hall that got.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, and and I would say that the Jayleen model
thing was let's get the best weapons possible for this
dynamic offense and this dynamic coach and this dynamic quarterback. Oops. Oops.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
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Speaker 1 (26:43):
App Stut Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. So he was
speaking with media earlier this week and Dan for for
people who are new to the show, Dan Bayer is
a huge Seahawks fan, so I definitely want him to
be part of this discussion anyway, Steelers wide receiver DK
Metcalf said he feels no extra juice this week as
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the Seahawks face his team, the Steelers. Remember the Seahawks
draft him in twenty nineteen, traded him this offseason. Quote,
it's just another team on the schedule that just so
happens to be playing the Pittsburgh Steelers. We've got to
go out there and do everything we can to try
and win. It's just another football game. Prepare like it's
any other football game, because after this they're gonna prepare
(27:26):
for their next moment, the next step on the schedule.
It's just how it is. It's not different at all. Yeah,
I don't think that. I think that's crap, Right, that's
the that sounds like a coach and coach speak and
it's about us and not about them, and and worry
(27:46):
about us and one game at a time, and this
game doesn't matter anymore than like what huh? And I
understand there's a lot of turnover in Seattle, right, and
maybe a better way to articulate what it would be. Look,
that's a different gentle manager and a different coach and
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a different owner than one that drafted me. That's fair, Okay,
but to say those things, is John Steinder still their GM.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Yes, okay, my mistake, but it is.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Different owner, different owner because the owner died and then
this has took over and yeah, all that stuff so
different coaching staff, wildly, different personnel, different, you know, different
just about everything. It's easier to disconnect that way, and
you might say last year he was a little disconnected anyway,
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But I just I mean, this is this would have been.
This is a third really third starting quarterback in Seattle,
and he went through two GENO after Russ. So I
understand some of it. But I just don't know anybody
who's a competitor who doesn't want to kick the ass
of the team that traded him released him, even even
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when it's not the team's fault. Right, you sign as
a free agent with another team, you're still mad at
your first team who drafted you, believed and you played
you for however many years? Bira, what do you think
as a Seahawks fan, how's that land on you?
Speaker 6 (29:27):
I'm not I'm not shocked. I actually think that it
shows professionalism from DK Metcalf and maybe what the Steelers
are trying to prove. I also think that the surroundings
around DK Metcalf, specifically Aaron Rodgers, specifically Jalen Ramsey who
he had great showdowns with when Ramsey was with the
Rams and and DK was with the Seahawks. They're all
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coming from other former teams as well, so maybe they have,
you know, in an act to grind with the Dolphins.
We saw last week with the Jets and Rogers comments
afterwards being what they were. But I'm not shocked that
he's not making a big deal out of it because
I think that's what you want to do in that scenario.
(30:10):
We'll see if his play shows on the field. But
this is the mix of DK Doug is. We think
that DK is maybe this hot head and he's got
the face paints with the lightning bolt and the earring.
Yet what's the play that we remember most from DK
Metcalf running down Buddha Baker on an interception and the
(30:33):
extreme hustle of it. And he had a mixed It
was kind of like a mixed relationship with Seattle. There
was a little love, there was some frustration because there
weren't like enormous big game catches that you remember from him.
But you loved his passion. You loved his effort and
he was a physical freak and he did make great
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plays for Seattle. He's to me, Doug, it's just kind
of one of those like AJ Brown being dealt by
the Titans of the Eagles, their college teammates. It's kind
of similar. Didn't fit what the Seahawks were doing making
the change. They paid less for Sam Donald, They're invested
a little bit more on defense, and happened to be
one of those things. But I don't I think he'll
look at it as a revenge game and maybe say afterwards,
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but not shocked that he said this prior.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I don't love it. I mean again, I do think
it shows a professionalism in what you say. But there's
a way in which you can say it. Stug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio. Okay, let's get to Mark Dominic, who's
former general manager with the Tampay Buccaneers twenty years the
Nation Football League. He joins us every week on the show.
(31:43):
Let's get to what we were just talking about. DK
Metcalfs like, ah, just another game. How's that land on
you when you're a general manager.
Speaker 9 (31:52):
It just felt like a team that didn't have the
energy they usually have. The Communders didn't feel like they
had the moxi or the juice that we saw from
him last year. You know, they didn't really come out
really great against the Giants either, and so I think
they're I'm hoping it feels like it's just a team that's,
you know, trying to work themselves into the right shape,
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into the right charisma, into the right situation. We've got
the Raiders coming up next. But they they felt flat
for two weeks, and that's not the team we're expecting
to see. And and even if you are honest with yourself, Doug,
you know, knowing coach so well, he didn't feel like
he had the normal Dan coach Quinn energy even on interviews,
and so it just felt like the team wasn't on
patas or on par for what they're usually going to be.
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I have a feeling that will change, but the Raiders
next week has to feel spark.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Okay, let me ask you about about Aaron Rodgers. How
do you think he looked weak?
Speaker 6 (32:45):
One?
Speaker 9 (32:46):
I thought Aaron played well. I mean, I know the
numbers were great, but I thought he played well and
made the throws. I mean, the thing that really showed
to me was, And I think the best way to
say is when you see older quarterbacks, right, it's hard
not to think of sadly, you know, as great as
he was and is Peyton Manning, you can feel like
when he was still on the ball, it was like
you can get it out, come on, you can do it.
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You just felt like he's like, what wasn't natural, wasn't easy.
It was like I'm going to really have to throw
my arm into this one, where with Rogers you could
still see the ball just still pops out of his hand.
I mean, so the the biggest thing to me is
the arm talents still right where it needs to be,
and that's the huge part about it, and I think
that's the most encouraging thing about it. You know, the
Jets certainly offensively played and called a great offensive game.
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Surprisingly to the Steelers defense was more concerning to me
than Aaron Rodgers as an offensive player.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Uh okay, Aaron Rodgers former team. The Packers are now
two and zero. Again, I don't want to go crazy.
I'm not crazy Packers fan. I do. I enjoy being
a fan, but I feel like it's really early. It
was a sloppy game, but that felt like a championship
(33:56):
energy sort of in the building that Micah Parsons just
changes them him and then Jordan Love and you know,
year three as a starter, he's different. There's a level
of calm to him. What's your thoughts on the Packers
two games in.
Speaker 9 (34:11):
Yeah, it just continues to build off of what I
thought this summer. And you know, we talked about what
the impact I thought for Michael Parsons would be, and
I thought that was the piece that you know, there's
a lot about the continuity, you know, and the way
that defense is humming. I mean to hold you know,
the Commanders to fifty yards rushing. You know, that's you know,
they just are playing so well together so early. And
(34:32):
again it's a young football team both sides of the ball,
and it's it's energetic coordinators and and you know, coaches
across the board, and so it's a great start for
the agreement Packers. They I mean, you would walk if
we could take us a month back and say, hey, look,
the Packers are going to win both games pretty easily.
In the fourth quarter. They're not going to be sweating
the Detroit Lions or the Commanders. You'd say, wow, that's
(34:55):
a pretty impressive team. So I think you have every
right to be optimistic in Green Bay, saying, and you
know it's our division. Now we've got to see if
it's our conference.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Let's take the Lions first. It was only one game,
new coordinators, some new pieces. How much of it is
it's just the first game of the year. There's a
lot to be worked out. How much should there be
alarms going off considering how dynamic this team was, especially offensively.
Speaker 9 (35:24):
Yeah, I think we'll learn a lot again with them
this week. I mean, the Packers are going to be
a formal opponent for everybody to have a feeling. But
what we'll see against the Bears, I think we'll really
kind of tell us where Detroit is. I'm not an
alarmist on this one. I still think they're going to
find their rhythm and still be that team that's going
to make the postseason, and they're gonna have every reason,
you know, when they play the Packers again, and maybe
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they're playing three times this year. But I'm not scared
of where they are. I know that the coordinator thing
is real, and Aaron Glens impacked and the Jets was encouraging, right,
But I think what you'll see this week, I think
will be a little bit more of a tall tale
sign of what they're going to be all season long.
And we'll see how they play against the Bears. But
I'm not I'm not an alarmist on that one.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Stuck Gottlieb Show Here on Fox Sports Radio, Mark Dominic
is our guest, what happened to the Texans two years ago?
Kind of took the league by storm, really competitive, getting
the playoffs, competitive in the playoffs, lose to the Rams,
disappointing year. What what happened?
Speaker 9 (36:23):
You know? I think that they really struggled trying to
find that offensive line there, right, and then they turn
around and they remove larr and Mutunsel from the team.
You know, the guy last year was starting for him
as Juice Scruggs, and now he's not. You know, they
keep moving around different guys on their own on their
own offensive line. I think that's the piece that's they
can't find that continuity, which is so as you know,
(36:43):
so important. I mean again, it's it's what is it?
It's uh, Titus Howard's now moved over to right guard.
I mean he's been left tackle, right tackle guard. I
mean they can't find it. So I think that they're
struggling trying to find the offensive line and and and
until they get that settled, I think that's what's really
hurting this football team right now. And you know, obviously
(37:03):
they've got new guys out there in Blakelyn Dolinson in
the draft choice and Cam Robinson. So until that gets
settled down, I think you're going to see the same
problems that you're going to see a somewhat inconsistent team
that doesn't have the same moxie that it did a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I I watched the the Miami Dolphins, and I know
they had a players only meeting. I know they got
issues with Tyreek Hill, but I think their biggest issue
is they signed the wrong guy at quarterback. Right I
just am I being too harsh that the Dolphins thing
between McDaniel not seeming to have to be as discipline
(37:45):
oriented as he needs to be with some of those guys,
and then they've they've kind of figured out TOOA that
just feels if that thing feels like a.
Speaker 9 (37:53):
Mess, it's it's definitely feels like a mess. It's definitely.
As a former GM they have a player's only meeting
after week one is almost unheard of, and so that
is a bigger red flag to me than anything, is
that they didn't realize this entire time that they weren't
(38:13):
put together. You know, that they weren't you know, giving
their best effort, and they weren't working together together to
try to get to where they need to be, and
they weren't helding each other accountable if somebody else isn't.
So all those things were those are you know, big concerns.
And look, they're going to play a Patriots team that's
clearly better with coach Brabele, who doesn't have the roster
that he needs to have still, but they're trying to
put it together. We'll see what they look like the Dolphins.
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I get the sense we'll see a little bit better team.
In terms of Tua. You know, I'm not gonna I'm
not going to go there with him just yet and say, boy,
they signed the wrong quarterback. They don't have a lot
of options in Miami. I think they understood and they
banked off of what they had the year before. So
let's I need this was one where I need I
need a Patriots game to kind of get a better sense,
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but to lose to the Colts the way they did,
to have a player's only meeting just continues. And knowing
mister Ross and how you know, sometimes he's got a
pretty quick leash in terms of head coaches. I think
this one's got you know, three or four weeks. This
team is one in four or one in five. I
think you'll see have changed really quick in Miami. I'm afraid.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, It's it's crazy how quick that can it can
it can just get away from you. Just really, what
are your thoughts on Caleb Williams after watching him.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
Monday, I still still don't trust the accuracy, Still don't
like him throwing on the move the way I would
like to see him. You know, it's no different than
who else struggled. To me after I went back and watching.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
It, Caleb.
Speaker 9 (39:39):
Murray, Kyler Murray, it was the same thing. He just
you know, the movement throws just it was like, there
are opportunities there and you've got to take advantage of
when the good guys do that, I mean, the really
good ones can do that. And Caleb to me, still
didn't show that, you know, the opportunities were there. Could
he take advantage of it, and so you know, I
thought it was average and and for how much they've
(40:01):
worked on that, you know, they had a shot to
win the game, and they certainly weren't positioned. It all
fell apart. It's how it works in the nationalbo League.
That sixty minutes. But you know, there's nothing easy for
the Chicago Bears. Detroit at Detroit this week, and so
I think they've got an early buy this year. I
think it's like week four, week five, So they need
to have some spark going into that one. And I
(40:22):
know that they've got at least Detroit and Dallas coming up,
I think the Raiders after that. So Caleb's got to
show that he can lead the team and be the leader,
but make the plays when they're there, and right now
he's just not doing that still.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Mark Dominic's our guests, a former general manager Tampa Bay
Buccaneers join us. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
JJ McCarthy really tight, nervous, why shouldn't it be? First
game started? But then did make some plays late, some
of them were dialed up for him. What's your lovel
of confidence in JJ McCarthy moving forward?
Speaker 9 (40:53):
Well, it's it's you know again, I'd like to see
a full game of it. You know, that's the most
important part. But what you liked is, you know, the
way it sounded like he handled the huddle, the way
he sounded like when things needed to get done, he
could take care of it. And you know, in the
confidence I think that he grew by the way he
handled the huddle. You know, I think those are all
(41:14):
exciting things for Vikings fans that you know, here's a
guy that when he needed to make a play, he did,
and he dialed up or not. You still got to
make the play, right, you still got to make the throw.
He's still got to make the opportunity. And so you know,
that was good. I thought he'd actually played a little
bit better than he did. But I'm hoping that you know,
he's again he's building on really his first game ever
in the National Football League as a starter. Not really,
but it is and now he's got it, you know,
(41:35):
an Atlanta team that was competitive in Week one. That
we'll see what they can look like. But uh, I
think that I'm still on the happy side of JJ.
You know, I just want to you know, he needs
to get his games in and get his goosebumps out.
But oh in all the way he handled the huddle,
the confidence he put into the players around him, I
think helped will that the Vikings team to that victory.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
It's a show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mark Dominic
is our guest. Was the Bills come back more about
the Bills or about the Ravens.
Speaker 9 (42:09):
I think it was more about the Bills. I mean,
what happened with Derek Henry and the fumble heard around
the world. You know, that's disappointing, obviously for such a
guy that was just dominating. I mean, it felt like
there was no answer for the Ravens, right, It felt
like the Bills had no shot. But you know, when
you get a tip the ball and end up in
a touchdown in fourth and two, you know, you just
realize this might not be our night. And I don't
(42:30):
think it's anything bad about the Ravens. It's had unfortunate
things happened that usually don't. Derek Henry doesn't put the
ball down on the ground very often, and you usually
don't get some random tip ball turns into a touchdown
in fourth and too. So you know, I think the
Ravens are fine. You know, I think that the Bills.
There was an amazing victory for them both. I think
they play each other again in the postseason, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
About it, no doubt about it, no no doubt about it.
Who's the team that we haven't discussed that we need.
Speaker 9 (42:58):
To I guess if you you know, that's a good one,
Doug when you said to think about who all played
well week one or who kind of surprised you and
looked better than expected. I mean, the Colts were probably
the number one team that was like, wait a second,
what's going on? What happened there? I want to see
a little bit more of the Colts, the Chargers, of
(43:19):
the team that I've always kind of felt it could
take a step. And I know losing Slater's a tough loss,
but I just felt like the Charges were a team
that was going to take a big step this year,
and I thought they can win the division. I feel
still confident in that, but I thought the Colts. I
want to see what they can do back to back
because that was the team that surprised me more than anybody.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Mark have a great weekend. Thanks so much for joining us.
Appreciates me our guests in
Speaker 9 (43:38):
The show, Thanks Dog, thanks for having me on
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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