October 22, 2025 • 50 mins
On a Wednesday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug talks about opening night of the NBA as it was broadcast on NBC for the first time since 2002.
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h uh huh uh huh. First night of the NBA
in the books. It's kind of fun, right, kind of fun.
And you know, there's there's industry things that we talk
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about too much on radio, and there's you know, it's
like we've talked about the changing of announcers, the changing
of broadcast, broadcast networks, let's just be honest. It was
a little bit weird to have to see the Peacock
and NBC broadcasting last night's games, and you know, some
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of the tone, and obviously Mike Turco just has such
a warm and inviting voice. But then you hear, you know,
Reggie Miller, and you're like, wait a second, I'm so
used to hearing Reggie Miller usually with TNT, and people
don't pay that much attention to allow of the play
by play voices. It kind of feels like the same thing.
There was one difference. Michael Jeffrey Jordan was involved. Now
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he's not at the desk, he's not charge. I was Barkley.
He's Jordan. He's doing his own thing. He's sitting in
a in a chair basically getting interviewed by Mike Turico,
and that's how they're going to present him. And of
course he gave you one classic Jordan confident sort of
moment right where he talked about shooting a free throw
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in front of some kids at some house that he rented,
and and you know, well, here's the story.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Do you haven't pick up a ball and to shoot?
I haven't picked up a ball in years? Come on.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Just like walk past. There's got to be a hoop
somewhere at your place. You don't see a hoop anywhere
around here. I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It's the last time you pick up a basketball and shot.
I was at the right a cup.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, and I rented a house from from the owner. Sure,
he came over to do pictures and grandkids, and I
was beating greet and thank him for allowing me to
stay in the house. He and he had a basketball court.
He says, I want you to shoot one free throw.
I said, really, I already paid for the already paid
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for the house. It's likely you got to see me.
So when I stepped up to shoot your free throw,
it's the most nervous I've been in year.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Stop it in years, Stop it come on.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
The reason being is those kids heard the stories from
the parents about what I did thirty years ago, right,
So the expectation is thirty years prior and I haven't
touched the basketball. I hope you switched it. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
So there's the there's the Jordan Larry Bird. Of course,
I still got a kid sort of moment. This is
the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. So here's
what I want to do. I'm gonna give you a
couple thoughts and then all of it. We all have
thoughts on this because I know we were on a
little group text chain and guys have different feelings about
different things. The first is it's brilliant to have Jordan involved.
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Back when NBC had the NBA and the NBA was king,
it was because of Michael Jordan, So I know, you know,
Jay Steuws said he saw it was forty million dollars
for him. It's worth every penny. It just is. It
brings automatic credibility to what you do. And I get
that Magic Johnson was a complete has been a complete
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waste of time with NBC with the ESPN when he's
been broadcasting. It doesn't bring credibility. I got it. But
remember that was with ESPN who already had it, and
they put Magic Johnson up on the desk where he
has to be an analyst. And that's not what Magic
Johnson does. It's just not so for NBC. It it's
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just like the reason that they they purchased back what's
the song called a hoop? Uh? What is that called
round ball rock? Right? Round ball Rock? Actually, Fox Sports
FS one least the rights to round Ball Rock, and
then NBC bought it back. And the whole reason you have, Jordan,
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the whole reason you have round Ball Rock is to
kind of wake up those you know, memories in your
mind of thirty years ago, back when the NBA was king.
It was great, and then the actual product of the
NBA last night was also outstanding. And what happens with
the NBA is the same thing that's happened with baseball,
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and in some ways it's converse to what's happened in
the NFL. And Jason, you yourself pointed out all the time,
like anybody, the NFL is almost laughing at the fact
that we'll watch any game, no matter how bad that
Seattle game was on Monday night, people are still gonna watch.
Why it's the NFL is like I got some money out,
I got a fantasy football, I gotta watch it. But
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the product is far inferior to the perception of the product,
Whereas in baseball, the perception is it's boring, it's slow. Oh,
it's unathletic, and it isn't as fast as the other
you know, hockey obviously, even but basketball and football. But
it's way fast as it used to be. It's way
more athletic than used to be, and it's really exciting.
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The pitch clock works, the new bases work, the new
rules work, and then it's brought back athleticism and rallies
back into the game. The same thing for the NBA.
The perception is they don't care. Perception is they don't
play defense and all they do is shoot threes. It's
like a bad old man pickup game. You dribble down
and shoot a three. Brother in law ball, meaning you
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don't guard me, I don't guard you. And if you
watched last night the defending NBA champion Oklahoma City Thunder,
they were garden the whole night and Houston wasn't far behind,
and the game goes into you know, into overtime, and
it's a hard fought feels like a playoff game, unbelievable intensity.
But if you didn't watch, you're like, eh, they just
shout a bunch of threes and don't play hard until
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the last five minutes of the game. We can pick
apart and talk about the broadcast, but I would say
that the actual game was a really good fun watch
where they it was the opposite of what you would
assume those teams played hard and played great defense and
were super super competitive. And as far as the NBC thing,
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I think it's I just feel like it's one of
those we make a way, big, way bigger deal of
it than should actually be made. I do think that
when they get to some of the other networks, you know,
the Amazon Brian, they have so many people who have
never done TV before and their big names, I don't
think it'll be particularly good, much like Amazon's Thursday Night package,
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which some guys have grown into being quality andless some
just aren't very good. But it's really hard when you
have all new people. I think Amazon run into this,
but NBC feels like Turner Light having Tariko, who's just
solid and steady, and whether you like or don't love
Reggie Miller, his voice is synonymous. I know. Yeah. By
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the way, the last time Reggie Miller was playing and
it was interesting was when Jordan played it well and
NBC had had the rights had the rights byr what'd
you think of Jordan's part of it?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I did not see it live. I only consumed it
via social media. So the point that someone made on
social media and I can't remember who it was was
there's this whole excitement about Jordan being rolled out, and
is this just a sit down with him for three
hours and then going to play various segments throughout the
year Like that was my question. I thought it was entertaining.
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I thought it was it was put together very well.
But if this is we're going to see the same
setup of Toego at Jordan in January, just reminiscing or
talking about certain things, then I don't know if if
that's what we all thought it was going to be.
But I thought the three minutes that I saw, I
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thought we're entertaining.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And then did you notice any difference in the actual
game broadcast?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I looked at like the score bug was actually something
that I looked at. I'm like, all right, how does
this feel? I did get a little different sense. It
did feel like it was on network TV as opposed
to say ESPN or TNT. And I know it's easy
to take shots at ESPN for stuff, but I felt
that last night's game felt more like an event. And
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I feel like sometimes ESPN's broadcast are this is what's
coming up after PTI, and so I felt like it
was a bigger sort of sort of event last night.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Jase do I saw the same thing Dan did on
social media, So either it was one person or it
was like an amalgamation of a lot of people, Like
this is what the Jordan piece is. I had to
check and he gets forty million bucks a year to
do this. Remember when it first came out that they
were adding him, my opinion was that it's going to
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diminish what his reputation is if he's up there doing
analysis work, Like do we really want to see this
mysterious guy who's so cool, he's everything Lebron wants to
be reputation wise, Why would he go on TV and
tarnish that by giving us hot takes. I'm glad they're
not doing that. But to Dan's point, they're just going
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to cut up interview segments with to Rico and paying
forty million bucks. The part that's incredible to me is
that Twitter is a cesspool. Twitter finds the negative in everything.
If you want to see something that you hate being bashed,
you go to Twitter. It runs like ninety nine percent
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positive on Jordan last night. Everyone loved it, all the
blue check marks. They loved it. Love Jordan. I will
call bus on one thing. The interview opened this way.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
You let us bring a camera two to your place
here to talk to you about basketball.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Why do you want to share what you're thinking about basketball? Now?
It's pay it forward?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You know, I have an obligation to the game of basketball,
not financially.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I mean I think more or less from me from
as a basketball player is to be able to pass
on messages of success and dedication to the game of basketball.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
I think that sounds good. I think it's laughable, and
if you believe it, you're not smart. I think instead
of pay it forward, he should have said, pay it
into my bank account. So there's motivations for him be
doing this, I think are laffable. He would have done
it much sooner. But that those are my thoughts.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Sam, did you watch No, I didn't watch a lick
of basketball last night. I did just catch the same
clip that Dan was talking about, and I do find
it funny pay it forward, the forty million to me
paid forward? No, it'll be I agree with everybody's points.
I think the more than Michael Jordan opens his mouth
will probably be like, there'll be more, you know, opinions
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swaying either way on him and uh. In terms of
Peacock's production, I've only seen football. I love it, but
I haven't seen any basketball yet.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
He's doing it for the for the same reason why
the last dance came out he has. He has creative control.
I think he's gonna tell a story where he misses
a free throw like no, and then and then.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
That's that's a great that's a great point.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So that's I Also, do you guys notice on the graphic,
because it was plainly obvious that the way that the
graphic is constructed, the Roman numeral of six is highlighted.
So you see this VI I for the six championships,
you guys notice that, yes, yes, So again it's a reminder.
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I've won six titles. So if you just look at
the graphic of what is it insights to whatever it
is on the bottom part. And even when the graphic
is put in motion, the v I that is formed
from the logo is highlighted. And so that to me
tells me all we need to know about why he's
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doing this. This is a reminder. And Doug, you tweeted,
this is my king hook line and sinker Doug's on
the hook that's what this is about.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Totally again, I'm just I could, I could, I could
try and like decipher it. Now I'm gonna defend. And
we talked about this a little bit in the pod.
The POD's available at the top of the third hour
stug Outleb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. I point
out that George W. Bush, when he gets paid and
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he gets paid a ton of money to go speak somewhere,
this is what he does. He sits in the couch
and somebody interviews him and he just tells stories. And
I actually think that's genius because of exactly what Ja
Stu said, where put him on the desk, make him
analyze something, and that's hard, that is really really difficult.
Not what he does now, he's just being Michael Jordan.
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And I'll also defend him with the forty million dollars
he's making. When you're Michael Jordan, you can't give you
can't give away, you can't give it up for free.
That's just you just cannot. Because the second it gets
out that Michael Jordan is doing something for half his
normal rate, then all of a sudden, all the vultures
are coming, Hey, you did it for NBC for you know,
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way less than your normal rate. No, no, no, if
you want Michael Jordan, you have to pay Michael Jordan prices.
So I do not agree with you. Jase stew I
understand that he's sitting there going, but he really doesn't
have to do it. He doesn't have to do it.
He's just doing what Peyton Manning did, what Pey man
does the same thing. He doesn't want to broadcast games
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in a booth, he doesn't want to be in a desk,
but he wants talk about football, wants to stay relevant,
so he does the Manning cast and this is his
way of staying relevant, making money, being involved, also continuing
to remind people I'm still the greatest of all time
and this is the network that is most associated with
the time in which I was great.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yes, Dan, here's here's where the Jordan this is. I
wasn't a Jordan hater, just never was a Jordan fan.
Jordan wants this again that he's giving back to basketball.
The last dance videos were set on for how many years,
twenty two years before they were actually released, and we
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have talked about why they were released at that point,
and it's because Lebron James was encroaching in on Jordan's
reign as possibly the greatest player ever. So now we
have this ten part documentary series. COVID was separate of that,
Like this thing was in the works, it was moved
up because of COVID the release, but they were going
to release this ten part doc because Jordan finally gave
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the okay to it. And he talks about giving back
to basketball. As the owner of Charlotte Hornets. I vividly
remember their season starting and he mentioned the Ryder Cup
of Jordan being at a Ryder Cup when his Hornets
were starting a season at one point, and to me,
that was, all right, where are your priorities then? Do
you really want to be? You know, you're giving back
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to basketball? May have been Let's make the Charlotte Hornets
an actual winner, Let's turn them into something. And so
that's why I always think this stuff is a bit
contrived when it comes to Jordan. I also set you
guys the images on the group text of the logo.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I saw. It's actually really cool. But again, these are
the type of things that make a guy of his
ego super excited about doing it. Hey man, you know
check this out. It's actually a really good touch. It's
a really really good touch. Speaking of pros. Doug Ottlip
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Show here on Fox Sports Radio, Dan Byer, Jason Stewart,
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Speaker 7 (17:01):
This is the best of the Don dot Leap Show
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Speaker 1 (17:08):
What Up with You, Doug Gottleep Show, Fox Sports Radio.
iHeartRadio app Welcome in. I hope you're having a great day,
you know we are, Uh, falls definitely arrived in northeast Wisconsin. Boys,
it's like forty degrees last night, windy, the colors are beautiful.
But yeah, no, it's we've got another we we we
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completely skipped over. It was like one week of the
really cool sunny part of fall and now it's like, yeah,
you know what's coming next, right, big boy?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Right, that's Midwest living for you.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Doug.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Yeah, you get like a handful of days or like
seventies sunny and then.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I got a I gotta share with you guys. A
quick story is Doug Goatlip Share on Fox Sports trailer.
We're gonna get to the midway in a second. When
you're when you're coaching, you know, sometimes you get in
a coach mode like yelling screamer because they just they
frustrate the hell out of you because you're like, well,
I taught you to do this, you're not doing it yet,
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And it takes a while for stuff to resonate, and
everything else is going on. One guy's hurt and this
guy's got this whatever. So I was trying to come
up with an analogy for my team. I just again,
I this is what it's really like. Okay. So obviously
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we play and we play a crazy schedule if you
know anything about college basketball. Obviously we open at Kansas,
one of the best programs, if not the best program
in the country. Uh, but we play we only play
three non conference home games. We're gonna play Yale. They're
picked to win the IVY League. We're gonna play Santa Barbara.
They're picked to when the bick to when the the
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what was the Big West?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
We likely play College at Charleston. Uh, they're picked to
win I think the CIA. We play Saint Thomas. They're
picked to win the Summit League, and they did in
the Summon League last year. Like it's it's really hard
and the only way in which you can really be
effective offensive, and you're watching the magic to the Warriors
is that despite the twenty four second shot clock, they
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move it side to side. The more passes, the higher
of the shopper centers, the higher your efficiency. And so
I was trying to describe this to my team, So
I said, hey, here's what you guys are. Okay, you
guys are the high school or early college kid who
the second you see a girl and you start or
you think you can make out with a girl, you
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start trying to take off all your clothes. Guys, you
gotta talk to him on the phone. You gotta text him,
you gotta take him out to dinner. You gotta be chivalrous,
you gotta establish a relationship. Right, You got to kind
of go through some stages and then the other stuff
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kind of takes care of itself. Offensive basketball is much
the same way, right. We can't just every time we
come down try and just score right away. I don't know.
I was really proud of my analogy. The today guys
are dying guys came literally came in the office like coach,
I get it now, I get it, but like, no, no, no,
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you don't get it because I was once a twenty
something year old guy and it was how quickly can
we go from A to Z? Right? Come on?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yes, I do remember a quote from John Wooden saying
that for play in basketball is so important. So well
he said it gets like a lot of hype. But
also I think it was him saying that for play
is the key to success.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Well, that was actually the thing. I couldn't remember the word,
and I made sure this is the this is the
slowly maturing Doug guy. We made sure to look around. Okay,
those in the gym oh nose a him. Yes, he
said be quick, but don't hurry, and for play is
one of the keys to success. That's actually most people
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only use half the quote. Dan, that's the problem.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
That's effect You got the reas because it doesn't matter
that the means to it.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
So you got to meet them on their level. That's
what you gotta do. This is the Doug Gotlip Show reminder.
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Michael Jordan's pulling off one of the all time heists.
Like he all he has to do is sit in
his chair and answer questions, and he gets forty million
dollars for being Michael Jordan. Welcome to being Michael Jordan. Right.
Bet downside is can't go out and eat dinner without
people harassing you and telling you about where they were
when you hit a shot. Good news is you can
literally stay home, sit in your chair. When NBC get
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gets the rights, answer a couple questions. You get forty
million dollars a year. I think the trade off of privacy,
I'll take it. I'll take it. Make sure you hit
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(22:18):
He's not getting the middle.
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of them negative. Let's turn over to Jase.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Too today, gentlemen, for the group text. I sent this
out for the Midway. Uh, what is the one storyline
you are most interested about here with the new NBA season?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Now?
Speaker 5 (22:59):
I'd like to do just one, don't stam it up,
just one and then drill.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
Downga Doug, I'll take it from here.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Can I go first? The Midway?
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Dan Byer, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I think that it is Janis and Tetecumpo's future or
possibly lack thereof. In Milwaukee, it was a storyline throughout
the season that went silent and then all of a
sudden recently because of Janis's comments him saying that he
did not have a or did not recall a meeting
with ownership. It said that he was committed to Milwaukee.
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If the Bucks season turns on its head, which it
shouldn't do because of a variety of reasons. But if
the season turns on its head, it's what does Milwaukee
do with Yannis who wants to get in the mix.
And this may go on all the way until next
summer as well, But I think watching the state of
the Bucks in Yanis this year because it truly feels
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that if there was an opportunity for him to leave
Milwaukee for a different team, that now may be that time.
And I think that that that decision is is so
huge and will not only linger through the beginning of
the season, the middle of the season leading up to
the trade deadline, and then if he's not dealtic goes
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all the way into next season. So that is the
story that I think is in my mind, a huge,
huge story in the NBA this year.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Literally back up what Dan said, where obviously came out
that the Knicks wanted him and like he wants, he
only wants to play for the Knicks right outside of
Milwaukee's what he says, This reminds me of so many
court room dramas we've seen growing up. Right, he opened
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the door right. Once you open the door. Now, you
open the door to Okay, well, if it's not New York,
there's got to be somewhere else, or if New York
doesn't ultimately achieve under Mike Brown, then that move will
be made even if the ask is I'm I completely
agree with you that that's one of the two biggest storylines.
And once you open that door now it allows for
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no one denied that story. That's the whole thing about
that story. There is no one who came out and goes,
that's not true. We weren't interested in moving, We weren't
interested we there's no discussion. Nobody denied it. So it
is out there, and once it's out there, the door
is open. Once the door is open, very very difficult,
if impossible, to close.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yes, Dan, I also think that there's if you had
this conversation, say five six years ago, Jannis in his
young prime, that didn't seem like it was feasible. And
it was also a time where the NBA you didn't
think a team like the Milwaukee could win a championship. Sure,
so Milwaukee ends up winning one with Giannis, but it's
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also now the fact because of the second apron because
we've seen the volatility now of NBA champions It's no
longer a long shot for some of these teams in
the NBA to try to build a team and build
a winner, where previously, if you were to give up
Giannis and you were the Bucks, you would have no
shot because you couldn't compete in free agency, you couldn't
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compete with these other teams. Now I think it's completely
different in that manner. In that manner, and now you
have Milwaukee who maybe does need a fresh start, and
Giannis who maybe does say, yeah, I'd kind of like
to see where it is somewhere else because I want
to win another championship somewhere and if it's not going
to be here. Back then, it seemed like there was
no way a trade like this could possibly happen. And
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I think now you have a reason to say that
both sides could be motivated to make a deal depending
on how things go, especially with the stuff for grabs
this year.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Eas step for grabs is a big, big, big thing. Okay,
let me give you mine, guy. Where's Lebron James finished
this season?
Speaker 8 (26:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Is Lebron James hurt or is he injured? Right? And
if you remember, it's a obviously an all sports expression,
but probably first brought to the forefront with the program,
that old movie, the program. Anyway, if you heard, get
back out there, if you're injured, go see a doctor.
We use that today. I'm not questioning whether or not
(27:16):
his sciatic hurts, but it's Lebron James. Okay, And did
you notice last night? Last year? Okay, last year, Jay
su what happened? Opening night? Bronni played and we were
and we were told that Bronni is gonna gonna be
(27:38):
a rotation player year two. Anybody see the box score
last night?
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I thought the same thing during the game.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Didn't take off the sweats, didn't pee a drop nothing.
You know why, because he can't play at that level.
And the only reason they did it was to pacify Lebron.
And it's pretty obvious that they're over Lebron, right, and
they're over Lebron because of crap. Like last night we
(28:09):
got Opening night against the Golden State Warriors. We traded
for one of the great players now and in the
future of the game. And you can't play, you can't dress,
you can't run up and down because you're psiatic hurts.
We're never gonna but we're not playing your kid again.
That ain't happening. We're the laughing stock in the league.
By the way, Marcus, no one can wreck a watch
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of a game like Marcus Smart. I mean, look, I
love him, he's a warrior to played for my alma mater.
But it is awful to watch all that flopping and
all the stuff he does. It's like he flops, gets
a charge, then they go down the other end, then
they flop to and it's like it's just the word.
Marcus Smart is the absolute worst watch ever ever. That
stuff is so over the top and so done. The
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only thing more done is the Lakers with Lebron He's
like he's monitoring the situation. We're monitoring the situation. Do
you want to play or not want to play? If
you don't play, fine, sorry, ain't no play an ord
about it. But Luca's got it. We're all right. You know, hey,
guess what had you played last night? We probably beat
the Warriors, or if we can trade it and get
anything of value, we probably beat the Warriors. By the way,
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what's the big guy from the the Lakers who said
he's gonna try and get a Slovenian passport. What the
kid from Texas Jackson Ja Sorry, yeah, oh Jackson Hayes.
He came out and he said he's he's gonna get
to Slovenian's He's gonna try and get a Slovinian passport
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so you can play with him on the national team.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I will say this, something stood out to me last
night and it had Lebron James effect as well. It
was fun watching Steph Curry. Steph Curry is now in
the old guys group. Yeah, and he's not the He's
still a huge star. My point is is there's a
point where old guys like us really up to other
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old guys in the league because they're still doing it.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Like, even if you hated Tom Brady, you're I think
at some point you're like, wow, it's not with the
Patriots anymore. And look at him at forty four. We
aren't that way with Lebron. We aren't looking at him
in a warm fashion. Now there may be NBA Twitter
guys that will say, man, look at what Lebron's doing
in season twenty three at gonna be forty one years old.
(30:24):
I go, yeah, Like, there's there's not the warming up
to lebron Well, it's because of stuff like this, Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Stuff like this. I'm just telling you, like when I
saw that Bronni didn't play, and it's the siatic And
then he's if you've seen him out here there everywhere. Again,
I'm not doubting that his back hurts. I actually had
a sciatic problem like my sophomore year in high school. Right,
just get this nerve thing in your back. You don't know.
It feels like a two worn hamstring, feels like you're
killing your back. I get it. And he's one of
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the greatest, if not the greatest in some people's minds,
basketball player ever. And if you're not right, you don't go.
But dude, it's opening night and you offered no desire,
opportunity and everything. Everything we're hearing is he's hurt. He's
not injured. He could be going. He's just throwing a
hissy pit and trying to make his point about you
can't win without me. That's what he's doing. And if
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the Lakers really cared, they would have thrown Brownie in
there last night. They don't. They don't. What about you, guys,
what about you?
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Jaysetu there's so many stories. But if you put a
gun to my head, if you waived a gun on
social media and then you placed it to my head,
I would say that Jah Morant is my favorite story
wine going into this season. He has missed upwards. I
(31:43):
think of seventy games over the past two seasons, and frankly,
I don't care or know where the suspensions end and
the injuries begin. I don't know. He's largely just unavailable.
When he gets onto the court, he does something really
stupid and Adam Silver has to remove him and suspend him.
(32:05):
When he's on the court, he gets injured. He said
the other day he wants to play eighty two games. Well,
he's never played more than sixty seven. That was his
rookie season, and he has yet to show us that
he has matured. Remember that one just complete ruse of
an interview when Jalen Rose sat down with him in
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two years and really held his feet to the fire.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Is so bad.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
He skated on that. He has skated on the suspension since,
has yet to really prove to us that he's learned anything.
But when he's playing, he's one of the most exciting
players in basketball. I think right, Yeah, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
It's been years since we got quit crazy on job
morand but yes, kind of my head, that's a story.
I mean Zion Williamson kind of in that job Moran, Right, Yeah,
I think that's honestly. Look, and I want to say,
I'm want to hear yours. It's one of the things
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hurt in the NBA is Okay, we have this group
of guys that are clearly over the hill, right So
that's Lebron. You got Lebron, you got Steph kd. Giannis
is sort of working his way there sort of maybe
not fully whatever, but that that group, right is is
getting older. But you had a couple of these young
(33:30):
ones and Jaw and Zion are guys that weight injury
off the court just killing them. And that next wave,
that next generation. That's why these the foreign players continue
to take over because they don't seem to I mean, yeah,
with Luca it's been weight, but it hasn't affected him
that much. And obviously with the with Giannis and Jokic, right,
(33:55):
they're dominant players that take care of themselves and don't
have off the court issues. So that's as much the
reason for the European takeover as anything else, and that
is the Midway.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
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Speaker 1 (34:18):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
and today is a Wednesday. That means we are two
days away from the World Series. And the guy who's
joined us all season long, the guy who you should
listen to. He's our Fox Sports Radio MLB insider and
reporter for the MLB Network, John Morosi joins us here
on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio, and John,
(34:40):
I think the first thing that pops up in most
people's minds with the level of dominance that the Dodgers
had in the NLCS versus the unbelievable ending to the
alcs's the rest versus rust, what are the Dodgers doing
to prepare themselves for the World Series? Considering the amount
of time that they've.
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Had off, well, Dougan Afternoon Happy World Series coming up
a great time of the year, it does seem to
me that Dodgers has done a pretty good job of
planning out this time. The best they can. It certainly
has been an issue for teams in the past when
when you're not playing for a while, that can be
a real challenge. I covered multiple Detroit Tigers World Series
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in which they were they had the longer layoff and
really suffered from it. I do think it advantages the
Dodgers that, yes, they can have a couple of workouts
at Dodger Stadium and then you've got to make the
travel to go to the next city to begin the
World Series on the road. So it's not as though
they're getting too stale by staying at home for too long.
And of course it does help this team. Many of
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the players Doug had a very similar experience just a
year ago being in the World Series. So this seems
to me to be a Dodger team that's going to
be able to handle this long layoff before Game one.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Okay, does the rotation change at all concidering the amount
of time off, No, it.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
Doesn't, and nor should it. I think that they're gonna
have to begin this World Series Blake snow starting out
Yoshinobu Yamamoto with Game two. Dave Roberts has confirmed that
much of it I would expect we'll see a similar
plan with Tyler Glass now and showe a Otani in
Games three and four. There are very few teams, Doug,
that have the type of starting depth that the Dodgers do.
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And I think we should be clear and saying that
it wasn't always apparent that they would have had this
amount of depth during the course of the season, because
they had different injuries that they that they incurred, other
things that happened to them during the course of the
year where they had to build up this depth as
time gradually went along. But now that they've got it,
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now that Yamamoto has dialed in, now that Blake Snell
is pitching like a Saia winner again, They've They've got
o Tani, by the way, pitching Game four, for goodness
sake told me. They have so much depth right now.
And I think that bullpen has gotten into a good
space too, to where sure, yes, Toronto has what I
would say is a very good contact oriented lineup, but
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they're running up against one of the best swing and
missstaffs that we have ever seen, frankly, Doug in recent years.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Okay, let let's uh, let's dig in the to the
Otani thing. He didn't hit particularly, he didn't hit hardly
at all, right, and then all of a sudden he
has this unbelievable performance. We look back on last year's
World Series and the Yankees did a really good job,
really good job on him. What what Obviously it fell
apart in Game four, But what were the Brewers? What
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are the Yankees? What are these teams done to stifle
one of the greatest hitters, if not the greatest hitter
of all time.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
Well, it's trying to keep him uncomfortable, Doug, and I
think you can do that through a combination of a
couple of different elements. It's probably trying to as best
you can, have breaking pitches that challenge him, try to
get him a little bit into swing mode where maybe
you're you're geting him and counts where he's expecting fastball
and instead you flip a breaking ball in. I do
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think trying to get him below the strike zone and
get him to chase a little bit is how you
can have success. Now, obviously that's a two part equation.
He's not always going to chase, but when when you
do get him in situations where he's got to face
a split, which is the main pitch of Gossmin. It's
the main pitch of you Savage, so he's going to
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see it in games one and two. I think you
look at what's happening potentially in the in game three four,
I look at it and say there are enough weapons
that the Jays can throw at him and different types
of pitches on it. I thought Bieber's slider looked really
good in the second of his two starts there against
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the Mariners in the American League Championship Series. So even
though you don't have the kind of lefties that you
would love to run up against Otani, and maybe that's
gonna put a little bit of a burden on the
Toronto bullpen. I do think when when the Jays are
when the Jay's pitchers are in form, you do have
the types of guys like Bieber and you Savage in particular,
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who can be a little bit split neutral, and so
I think that their their ability to locate the splitter
down under the zone, disguise it like a fastball and
get Otani in swing mode. That's when you can add
success getting him out of the zone. If you're giving
him fastballs in the zone, you might as well forget
about it because he's just going to crush those and
and I think if you try to elevate a fastball,
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he can get on top of that as well as anybody.
We saw him hit a ball out of the stadium
at Dodgers Stadium. This is these are just other worldly
superhero things that Otani is doing. So I think that
the key thing is going to be, especially for a
team that has all right handed starting pitchers, Doug, They're
gonna have to locate their secondary stuff down. And I
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think that where Goslin got in trouble the first time
he started was when he had that that splitter a
little bit too high to cal Raley. If you have
things that are thigh high, so Tani is just it's
not going to work. You've got to be down out
of his own and then find ways to get him
to chase s.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, John Morosi
is joining us. On the other side, you have Vlad
Guerrero Junior. He's he's had his own struggles in the postseason.
What are people doing to ta Vlad?
Speaker 8 (40:20):
Well? Lad, I mean, when you look at what he's
been able to do the last the last round he's
been amazing and he's been the American League, the Championship Series, MVP.
I think that in terms of what the Dodgers will
do to him, what you I think what the book
is on Vlad and it's obviously been mixed results because
because the Mariners weren't able to always keep him in
the ballpark. Is he's able to hit the ball so
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well to the opposite field, to where sometimes with certain
right handed hitters you're saying, well, to keep the ball
away from him, Well, you do that to Vladdie, He's
already showed he can hit the ball out of the
stadium to right field as well. He looks to me
and Doug, I covered Miguel Cabrera in Detroit for a
long time. He looks like early career Miguel and mcguilbert
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is gonna be in Hall of Fame, and Lad has
a decent chance to join his dad in the Hall
of Fame, which is pretty amazing to say. So, that's
what I'm seeing there is is you're gonna have to
if if you are, if you're the Dodgers, You're not
gonna just be able to get him out over the plate.
You're gonna have to command the ball in off the
plate well to then earn the right to be able
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to go outside. And I think that's that's the challenge,
even for a team that's got great stuff like the
Dodgers do as a as a group of pitchers. I
do think Yamamoto's stuff of all the matchups, he probably
fits the best in terms of the way that Yoshinobu
game plans. We sell them have that complete game against
the Brewers. I actually think Game one I like the
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Jays chances to win Game one. Blake Snell is amazing,
of course, but that allows the Jays to get their
right handed bats in there. And while Snell is able
to command you know, cutter sink or he can kind
of move the ball around a little bit command both
to the plate.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
I think that the.
Speaker 8 (42:02):
Matchup of Laddie against Snell, the matchup of Springer against Snell,
I think that the I think Toronto Blue Jays have
a decent chance in that Game one. And we'll see
Doug if they end up being able to activate Boba Schett,
who of course has missed the initial rounds of the
playoffs due to a knee injury, but told me after
Game seven of the celebration. He is good to go
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for the World Series. So we'll see what role, if any,
Bowl might have. Maybe he's gonna be more of a
pinch hitter type, Doug. But I'm curious to see what
type of decisions that Toronto Blue Jays make about Boba
Schet think.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
About this vladd who was I mean, he hit over
four to forty in the playoffs so far, but against
lefties in the entire year regular season, three to twenty
six on base forty three percent of the time OPS
is nine to forty six. Against right He's still respectable
to eighty two on base three sixty seven and eight
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one eight eight eighteen ops. Just so much higher against lefties,
crazy amount amount higher against lefties. So I mean, you're
talking about what is it, you know, forty three percent
of the time he's on base as opposed to thirty
seven percent of the time beyond base and then the
OPS be so higher. It's it's really interesting that That's
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why I asked if they're going to keep the rotation
the way it is. But again, you have Blake's now
who's been in these big moments, right what about the
Dodger bullpen which has been the bane of our guy
Jason Stewart's existence, right, and they they did enough to
sweep the Brewers, but Game one was still very, very alarming.
What what do you think the plan is in terms
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of who they're going to use in the World Series.
Speaker 8 (43:44):
Well, first of all, Doug, I let Jase two know
that I've got to send condolences because he's had to
deal with a grand total of one playoff loss this
whole month. I know it's been real hard on him.
You lose one game and it's a crisis, but they're
actually doing okay. I think that the fact that Blake
Trinan has returned to the circle of trust is really
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important because I know, obviously Blake has some struggles down
the stretch, and obviously the Game one against Milwaukee was
a little frightful for the Dodgers. There's there's a little
bit of I think confidence rebuilding now in him, and
to me, the steadiness of trying is really important in
the ability for Roki Sasaki to be settled now. As
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as the late game option, and I think you credit
the Dodgers. I know Jeff Paster wrote about this late
on in the season, about the kind of workshop they
did with Roki to get him lined up and to
get him better. I just thought overall, tremendous work that
he that Roki's been able to do to get comfortable
again in a late ending situation and really embrace his
(44:51):
new role. So I think that those two guys stand
out to me as being the most important Tryna in Sasaki.
And then we'll see what what bestI is able to
do of being a legit left handed option they've got.
The Jays have a number of key lefties. Lucas is
really important to them, Addison Barge is really important to them.
Dalton varshow had a huge hit in Game seven, so
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I'm curious to see a little bit of what that
will mean for the overall bullpen planning now of this team. Again,
I think that there's there's enough depth for the Dodgers
to be able to navigate this, and who knows, maybe
in certain spots we'll see what this means later on
down the line. Does does Glass now pop out there
for an appearance here and there. But I think that
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the success of the Dodgers in the especially in the NLCS,
I think was predicated largely on the fact that very
few pitchers had to touch the ball. Their starters got
so deep that the bullpen did almost didn't have an
opportunity to become a problem. And I think it's gonna
have to be a similar situation here to where the
starters need to go deep. And I think this now
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feeds into what we're talking about with the Toronto Blue Jays.
If very to work deeper at bats, if they're able
to force the starters to leave after six innings instead
of seven, then you have to cover three more outs
of the bullpen, and then you're giving the Dodger bullpen
a chance to become a negative impact on this series.
If you're the Dodger, so I'll be curious to me
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to see not just in Game one, how many runs
this score against now, but how many how many pitches
can they make him have to work through early? If
you could, if you get a high pitch count blakes now,
then all of a sudden, the Dodger bullpen needs to
be relied on a bit more, and I think that's
what could swing the series into Toronto's favor.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, John Rossi
is our guest. You know, I was thinking, you were
talking about you like Toronto game one, and you brought
up a lot of good reasons why, And then I
was thinking again out loud, is I get the rust thing?
But if you're the Dodgers, and it's better off to
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start art on the road that way, if you just
get a split, you have home field advantage when you
come back home. But but the the Blue Jays have
been great on the road, right, Look what they did
in Seattle. On the road they've been They've been really,
really good in the road. Is there any difference in
your mind in these venues and the ultimate and the outcomes.
Speaker 8 (47:17):
Yeah, it's a great question. I think that Number one,
the Jays were able to play at Dodger Stadium this
year already once, and so I think that they don't.
Maybe the mystique and the and and the intimidation factor,
if you will, of playing at Dodger Stadium is probably
not as great for them as it would have been
if they hadn't been out there. Dodger Staateum is a
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great environment. Toronto was one of the loudest stadiums I've
ever heard in my life with Finger at that home
run uh Seattle by the Way was also very raucous.
I don't think the Jays are going to experience are
a more raucous or more hostile environment than what they
experienced in Seattle already. And they also went through Yankee Stadium.
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So I mean, with all tue respect of Dodger Stadium,
which is a great place to play and loud, I
don't think it's gonna be any scarier for the Jays
than what they've already experienced in New York and in Seattle.
I think that they've already gone through a couple quality teams,
They've already gone through a couple of difficult venues. They
split the two games in New York and they took
two out of three in Seattle, so they've shown they
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can win games on the road. They're also a really
good home team during the course of the year. This
is a very close series. I think that those that
believe it's going to be a sweep for the Dodgers,
I just think that they're they're kind of missing how
good the Jays have been. They're also missing the quality
of the postseason type baseball of the Jays play, and
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part of that is building rallies. I think one thing
that the Jays did better than the Mariners during the
ALCS was they would build a rally where it would
be walk, single, double, another base hit. They could build
in a bunt. Where the Mariners were very much home
run dependent. The Jays, while the biggest fing of their
season was a home run with Springer, they were also
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able to build rallies and that, to me is something
that I think will serve them very very well against
the Dodgers. I think we're gonna see two great atmospheres.
Dodger Stadium, to me, is still my favorite venue in sports.
It's magic, especially when you're there five o'clock Pacific time game,
the sun's reflecting off the San Gabriel's you realize that
God intended for baseball, we played at that exact place
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at that exact time, and you're just grateful to be there.
So there's gonna be that magic that exists. But I
think what they've got at Rogers Center now, it's become
a state of the art venue in the last couple
of years, they've renovated it. The players love it there.
It's a true ballpark feel now, more than just a stadium.
Of course, once upon a time they shared it with
the Toronto Argonauts the CFL. It is now a true
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baseball stadium, Doug and I think it's going to be
a very worthy site for Game one of the World
Series here this weekend.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
John Lucky one, right, you get to cover this thing.
It's gonna be so much fun, and it is Canada
versus LA, and it's gonna be really exciting. Thanks so
much for being our guests. We look forward to listening
to during the World Series and talk with you more
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (50:12):
All the best, dog, very best wishes for its great
college hoops season two. It's a wonderful time of year,
my friend. All the best wishes to you too,
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h uh huh uh huh. First night of the NBA
in the books. It's kind of fun, right, kind of fun.
And you know, there's there's industry things that we talk
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about too much on radio, and there's you know, it's
like we've talked about the changing of announcers, the changing
of broadcast, broadcast networks, let's just be honest. It was
a little bit weird to have to see the Peacock
and NBC broadcasting last night's games, and you know, some
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of the tone, and obviously Mike Turco just has such
a warm and inviting voice. But then you hear, you know,
Reggie Miller, and you're like, wait a second, I'm so
used to hearing Reggie Miller usually with TNT, and people
don't pay that much attention to allow of the play
by play voices. It kind of feels like the same thing.
There was one difference. Michael Jeffrey Jordan was involved. Now
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he's not at the desk, he's not charge. I was Barkley.
He's Jordan. He's doing his own thing. He's sitting in
a in a chair basically getting interviewed by Mike Turico,
and that's how they're going to present him. And of
course he gave you one classic Jordan confident sort of
moment right where he talked about shooting a free throw
(02:21):
in front of some kids at some house that he rented,
and and you know, well, here's the story.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Do you haven't pick up a ball and to shoot?
I haven't picked up a ball in years? Come on.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Just like walk past. There's got to be a hoop
somewhere at your place. You don't see a hoop anywhere
around here. I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It's the last time you pick up a basketball and shot.
I was at the right a cup.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, and I rented a house from from the owner. Sure,
he came over to do pictures and grandkids, and I
was beating greet and thank him for allowing me to
stay in the house. He and he had a basketball court.
He says, I want you to shoot one free throw.
I said, really, I already paid for the already paid
(03:10):
for the house. It's likely you got to see me.
So when I stepped up to shoot your free throw,
it's the most nervous I've been in year.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Stop it in years, Stop it come on.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
The reason being is those kids heard the stories from
the parents about what I did thirty years ago, right,
So the expectation is thirty years prior and I haven't
touched the basketball. I hope you switched it. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
So there's the there's the Jordan Larry Bird. Of course,
I still got a kid sort of moment. This is
the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. So here's
what I want to do. I'm gonna give you a
couple thoughts and then all of it. We all have
thoughts on this because I know we were on a
little group text chain and guys have different feelings about
different things. The first is it's brilliant to have Jordan involved.
(04:04):
Back when NBC had the NBA and the NBA was king,
it was because of Michael Jordan, So I know, you know,
Jay Steuws said he saw it was forty million dollars
for him. It's worth every penny. It just is. It
brings automatic credibility to what you do. And I get
that Magic Johnson was a complete has been a complete
(04:24):
waste of time with NBC with the ESPN when he's
been broadcasting. It doesn't bring credibility. I got it. But
remember that was with ESPN who already had it, and
they put Magic Johnson up on the desk where he
has to be an analyst. And that's not what Magic
Johnson does. It's just not so for NBC. It it's
(04:48):
just like the reason that they they purchased back what's
the song called a hoop? Uh? What is that called
round ball rock? Right? Round ball Rock? Actually, Fox Sports
FS one least the rights to round Ball Rock, and
then NBC bought it back. And the whole reason you have, Jordan,
(05:10):
the whole reason you have round Ball Rock is to
kind of wake up those you know, memories in your
mind of thirty years ago, back when the NBA was king.
It was great, and then the actual product of the
NBA last night was also outstanding. And what happens with
the NBA is the same thing that's happened with baseball,
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and in some ways it's converse to what's happened in
the NFL. And Jason, you yourself pointed out all the time,
like anybody, the NFL is almost laughing at the fact
that we'll watch any game, no matter how bad that
Seattle game was on Monday night, people are still gonna watch.
Why it's the NFL is like I got some money out,
I got a fantasy football, I gotta watch it. But
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the product is far inferior to the perception of the product,
Whereas in baseball, the perception is it's boring, it's slow. Oh,
it's unathletic, and it isn't as fast as the other
you know, hockey obviously, even but basketball and football. But
it's way fast as it used to be. It's way
more athletic than used to be, and it's really exciting.
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The pitch clock works, the new bases work, the new
rules work, and then it's brought back athleticism and rallies
back into the game. The same thing for the NBA.
The perception is they don't care. Perception is they don't
play defense and all they do is shoot threes. It's
like a bad old man pickup game. You dribble down
and shoot a three. Brother in law ball, meaning you
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don't guard me, I don't guard you. And if you
watched last night the defending NBA champion Oklahoma City Thunder,
they were garden the whole night and Houston wasn't far behind,
and the game goes into you know, into overtime, and
it's a hard fought feels like a playoff game, unbelievable intensity.
But if you didn't watch, you're like, eh, they just
shout a bunch of threes and don't play hard until
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the last five minutes of the game. We can pick
apart and talk about the broadcast, but I would say
that the actual game was a really good fun watch
where they it was the opposite of what you would
assume those teams played hard and played great defense and
were super super competitive. And as far as the NBC thing,
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I think it's I just feel like it's one of
those we make a way, big, way bigger deal of
it than should actually be made. I do think that
when they get to some of the other networks, you know,
the Amazon Brian, they have so many people who have
never done TV before and their big names, I don't
think it'll be particularly good, much like Amazon's Thursday Night package,
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which some guys have grown into being quality andless some
just aren't very good. But it's really hard when you
have all new people. I think Amazon run into this,
but NBC feels like Turner Light having Tariko, who's just
solid and steady, and whether you like or don't love
Reggie Miller, his voice is synonymous. I know. Yeah. By
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the way, the last time Reggie Miller was playing and
it was interesting was when Jordan played it well and
NBC had had the rights had the rights byr what'd
you think of Jordan's part of it?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I did not see it live. I only consumed it
via social media. So the point that someone made on
social media and I can't remember who it was was
there's this whole excitement about Jordan being rolled out, and
is this just a sit down with him for three
hours and then going to play various segments throughout the
year Like that was my question. I thought it was entertaining.
(08:42):
I thought it was it was put together very well.
But if this is we're going to see the same
setup of Toego at Jordan in January, just reminiscing or
talking about certain things, then I don't know if if
that's what we all thought it was going to be.
But I thought the three minutes that I saw, I
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thought we're entertaining.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
And then did you notice any difference in the actual
game broadcast?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I looked at like the score bug was actually something
that I looked at. I'm like, all right, how does
this feel? I did get a little different sense. It
did feel like it was on network TV as opposed
to say ESPN or TNT. And I know it's easy
to take shots at ESPN for stuff, but I felt
that last night's game felt more like an event. And
(09:35):
I feel like sometimes ESPN's broadcast are this is what's
coming up after PTI, and so I felt like it
was a bigger sort of sort of event last night.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Jase do I saw the same thing Dan did on
social media, So either it was one person or it
was like an amalgamation of a lot of people, Like
this is what the Jordan piece is. I had to
check and he gets forty million bucks a year to
do this. Remember when it first came out that they
were adding him, my opinion was that it's going to
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diminish what his reputation is if he's up there doing
analysis work, Like do we really want to see this
mysterious guy who's so cool, he's everything Lebron wants to
be reputation wise, Why would he go on TV and
tarnish that by giving us hot takes. I'm glad they're
not doing that. But to Dan's point, they're just going
(10:33):
to cut up interview segments with to Rico and paying
forty million bucks. The part that's incredible to me is
that Twitter is a cesspool. Twitter finds the negative in everything.
If you want to see something that you hate being bashed,
you go to Twitter. It runs like ninety nine percent
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positive on Jordan last night. Everyone loved it, all the
blue check marks. They loved it. Love Jordan. I will
call bus on one thing. The interview opened this way.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
You let us bring a camera two to your place
here to talk to you about basketball.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Why do you want to share what you're thinking about basketball? Now?
It's pay it forward?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You know, I have an obligation to the game of basketball,
not financially.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I mean I think more or less from me from
as a basketball player is to be able to pass
on messages of success and dedication to the game of basketball.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
I think that sounds good. I think it's laughable, and
if you believe it, you're not smart. I think instead
of pay it forward, he should have said, pay it
into my bank account. So there's motivations for him be
doing this, I think are laffable. He would have done
it much sooner. But that those are my thoughts.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Sam, did you watch No, I didn't watch a lick
of basketball last night. I did just catch the same
clip that Dan was talking about, and I do find
it funny pay it forward, the forty million to me
paid forward? No, it'll be I agree with everybody's points.
I think the more than Michael Jordan opens his mouth
will probably be like, there'll be more, you know, opinions
(12:11):
swaying either way on him and uh. In terms of
Peacock's production, I've only seen football. I love it, but
I haven't seen any basketball yet.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
He's doing it for the for the same reason why
the last dance came out he has. He has creative control.
I think he's gonna tell a story where he misses
a free throw like no, and then and then.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
That's that's a great that's a great point.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So that's I Also, do you guys notice on the graphic,
because it was plainly obvious that the way that the
graphic is constructed, the Roman numeral of six is highlighted.
So you see this VI I for the six championships,
you guys notice that, yes, yes, So again it's a reminder.
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I've won six titles. So if you just look at
the graphic of what is it insights to whatever it
is on the bottom part. And even when the graphic
is put in motion, the v I that is formed
from the logo is highlighted. And so that to me
tells me all we need to know about why he's
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doing this. This is a reminder. And Doug, you tweeted,
this is my king hook line and sinker Doug's on
the hook that's what this is about.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Totally again, I'm just I could, I could, I could
try and like decipher it. Now I'm gonna defend. And
we talked about this a little bit in the pod.
The POD's available at the top of the third hour
stug Outleb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. I point
out that George W. Bush, when he gets paid and
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he gets paid a ton of money to go speak somewhere,
this is what he does. He sits in the couch
and somebody interviews him and he just tells stories. And
I actually think that's genius because of exactly what Ja
Stu said, where put him on the desk, make him
analyze something, and that's hard, that is really really difficult.
Not what he does now, he's just being Michael Jordan.
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And I'll also defend him with the forty million dollars
he's making. When you're Michael Jordan, you can't give you
can't give away, you can't give it up for free.
That's just you just cannot. Because the second it gets
out that Michael Jordan is doing something for half his
normal rate, then all of a sudden, all the vultures
are coming, Hey, you did it for NBC for you know,
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way less than your normal rate. No, no, no, if
you want Michael Jordan, you have to pay Michael Jordan prices.
So I do not agree with you. Jase stew I
understand that he's sitting there going, but he really doesn't
have to do it. He doesn't have to do it.
He's just doing what Peyton Manning did, what Pey man
does the same thing. He doesn't want to broadcast games
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in a booth, he doesn't want to be in a desk,
but he wants talk about football, wants to stay relevant,
so he does the Manning cast and this is his
way of staying relevant, making money, being involved, also continuing
to remind people I'm still the greatest of all time
and this is the network that is most associated with
the time in which I was great.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yes, Dan, here's here's where the Jordan this is. I
wasn't a Jordan hater, just never was a Jordan fan.
Jordan wants this again that he's giving back to basketball.
The last dance videos were set on for how many years,
twenty two years before they were actually released, and we
(15:34):
have talked about why they were released at that point,
and it's because Lebron James was encroaching in on Jordan's
reign as possibly the greatest player ever. So now we
have this ten part documentary series. COVID was separate of that,
Like this thing was in the works, it was moved
up because of COVID the release, but they were going
to release this ten part doc because Jordan finally gave
(15:55):
the okay to it. And he talks about giving back
to basketball. As the owner of Charlotte Hornets. I vividly
remember their season starting and he mentioned the Ryder Cup
of Jordan being at a Ryder Cup when his Hornets
were starting a season at one point, and to me,
that was, all right, where are your priorities then? Do
you really want to be? You know, you're giving back
(16:16):
to basketball? May have been Let's make the Charlotte Hornets
an actual winner, Let's turn them into something. And so
that's why I always think this stuff is a bit
contrived when it comes to Jordan. I also set you
guys the images on the group text of the logo.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
I saw. It's actually really cool. But again, these are
the type of things that make a guy of his
ego super excited about doing it. Hey man, you know
check this out. It's actually a really good touch. It's
a really really good touch. Speaking of pros. Doug Ottlip
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Show here on Fox Sports Radio, Dan Byer, Jason Stewart,
I was Sam and of course myself. We're gonna be
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Speaker 7 (17:01):
This is the best of the Don dot Leap Show
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Speaker 1 (17:08):
What Up with You, Doug Gottleep Show, Fox Sports Radio.
iHeartRadio app Welcome in. I hope you're having a great day,
you know we are, Uh, falls definitely arrived in northeast Wisconsin. Boys,
it's like forty degrees last night, windy, the colors are beautiful.
But yeah, no, it's we've got another we we we
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completely skipped over. It was like one week of the
really cool sunny part of fall and now it's like, yeah,
you know what's coming next, right, big boy?
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Right, that's Midwest living for you.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Doug.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Yeah, you get like a handful of days or like
seventies sunny and then.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I got a I gotta share with you guys. A
quick story is Doug Goatlip Share on Fox Sports trailer.
We're gonna get to the midway in a second. When
you're when you're coaching, you know, sometimes you get in
a coach mode like yelling screamer because they just they
frustrate the hell out of you because you're like, well,
I taught you to do this, you're not doing it yet,
(18:05):
And it takes a while for stuff to resonate, and
everything else is going on. One guy's hurt and this
guy's got this whatever. So I was trying to come
up with an analogy for my team. I just again,
I this is what it's really like. Okay. So obviously
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we play and we play a crazy schedule if you
know anything about college basketball. Obviously we open at Kansas,
one of the best programs, if not the best program
in the country. Uh, but we play we only play
three non conference home games. We're gonna play Yale. They're
picked to win the IVY League. We're gonna play Santa Barbara.
They're picked to when the bick to when the the
(18:47):
what was the Big West?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
We likely play College at Charleston. Uh, they're picked to
win I think the CIA. We play Saint Thomas. They're
picked to win the Summit League, and they did in
the Summon League last year. Like it's it's really hard
and the only way in which you can really be
effective offensive, and you're watching the magic to the Warriors
is that despite the twenty four second shot clock, they
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move it side to side. The more passes, the higher
of the shopper centers, the higher your efficiency. And so
I was trying to describe this to my team, So
I said, hey, here's what you guys are. Okay, you
guys are the high school or early college kid who
the second you see a girl and you start or
you think you can make out with a girl, you
(19:32):
start trying to take off all your clothes. Guys, you
gotta talk to him on the phone. You gotta text him,
you gotta take him out to dinner. You gotta be chivalrous,
you gotta establish a relationship. Right, You got to kind
of go through some stages and then the other stuff
(19:53):
kind of takes care of itself. Offensive basketball is much
the same way, right. We can't just every time we
come down try and just score right away. I don't know.
I was really proud of my analogy. The today guys
are dying guys came literally came in the office like coach,
I get it now, I get it, but like, no, no, no,
(20:13):
you don't get it because I was once a twenty
something year old guy and it was how quickly can
we go from A to Z? Right? Come on?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yes, I do remember a quote from John Wooden saying
that for play in basketball is so important. So well
he said it gets like a lot of hype. But
also I think it was him saying that for play
is the key to success.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Well, that was actually the thing. I couldn't remember the word,
and I made sure this is the this is the
slowly maturing Doug guy. We made sure to look around. Okay,
those in the gym oh nose a him. Yes, he
said be quick, but don't hurry, and for play is
one of the keys to success. That's actually most people
(21:06):
only use half the quote. Dan, that's the problem.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
That's effect You got the reas because it doesn't matter
that the means to it.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
So you got to meet them on their level. That's
what you gotta do. This is the Doug Gotlip Show reminder.
Check out our YouTube channel. That's where you can see Dan.
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takes and opinions in including that that Jay Stu thinks
(21:36):
Michael Jordan's pulling off one of the all time heists.
Like he all he has to do is sit in
his chair and answer questions, and he gets forty million
dollars for being Michael Jordan. Welcome to being Michael Jordan. Right.
Bet downside is can't go out and eat dinner without
people harassing you and telling you about where they were
when you hit a shot. Good news is you can
literally stay home, sit in your chair. When NBC get
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gets the rights, answer a couple questions. You get forty
million dollars a year. I think the trade off of privacy,
I'll take it. I'll take it. Make sure you hit
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(22:18):
He's not getting the middle.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
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of them negative. Let's turn over to Jase.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Too today, gentlemen, for the group text. I sent this
out for the Midway. Uh, what is the one storyline
you are most interested about here with the new NBA season?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Now?
Speaker 5 (22:59):
I'd like to do just one, don't stam it up,
just one and then drill.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
Downga Doug, I'll take it from here.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Can I go first? The Midway?
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Dan Byer, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I think that it is Janis and Tetecumpo's future or
possibly lack thereof. In Milwaukee, it was a storyline throughout
the season that went silent and then all of a
sudden recently because of Janis's comments him saying that he
did not have a or did not recall a meeting
with ownership. It said that he was committed to Milwaukee.
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If the Bucks season turns on its head, which it
shouldn't do because of a variety of reasons. But if
the season turns on its head, it's what does Milwaukee
do with Yannis who wants to get in the mix.
And this may go on all the way until next
summer as well, But I think watching the state of
the Bucks in Yanis this year because it truly feels
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that if there was an opportunity for him to leave
Milwaukee for a different team, that now may be that time.
And I think that that that decision is is so
huge and will not only linger through the beginning of
the season, the middle of the season leading up to
the trade deadline, and then if he's not dealtic goes
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all the way into next season. So that is the
story that I think is in my mind, a huge,
huge story in the NBA this year.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Literally back up what Dan said, where obviously came out
that the Knicks wanted him and like he wants, he
only wants to play for the Knicks right outside of
Milwaukee's what he says, This reminds me of so many
court room dramas we've seen growing up. Right, he opened
(24:50):
the door right. Once you open the door. Now, you
open the door to Okay, well, if it's not New York,
there's got to be somewhere else, or if New York
doesn't ultimately achieve under Mike Brown, then that move will
be made even if the ask is I'm I completely
agree with you that that's one of the two biggest storylines.
And once you open that door now it allows for
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no one denied that story. That's the whole thing about
that story. There is no one who came out and goes,
that's not true. We weren't interested in moving, We weren't
interested we there's no discussion. Nobody denied it. So it
is out there, and once it's out there, the door
is open. Once the door is open, very very difficult,
if impossible, to close.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yes, Dan, I also think that there's if you had
this conversation, say five six years ago, Jannis in his
young prime, that didn't seem like it was feasible. And
it was also a time where the NBA you didn't
think a team like the Milwaukee could win a championship. Sure,
so Milwaukee ends up winning one with Giannis, but it's
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also now the fact because of the second apron because
we've seen the volatility now of NBA champions It's no
longer a long shot for some of these teams in
the NBA to try to build a team and build
a winner, where previously, if you were to give up
Giannis and you were the Bucks, you would have no
shot because you couldn't compete in free agency, you couldn't
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compete with these other teams. Now I think it's completely
different in that manner. In that manner, and now you
have Milwaukee who maybe does need a fresh start, and
Giannis who maybe does say, yeah, I'd kind of like
to see where it is somewhere else because I want
to win another championship somewhere and if it's not going
to be here. Back then, it seemed like there was
no way a trade like this could possibly happen. And
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I think now you have a reason to say that
both sides could be motivated to make a deal depending
on how things go, especially with the stuff for grabs
this year.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Eas step for grabs is a big, big, big thing. Okay,
let me give you mine, guy. Where's Lebron James finished
this season?
Speaker 8 (26:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Is Lebron James hurt or is he injured? Right? And
if you remember, it's a obviously an all sports expression,
but probably first brought to the forefront with the program,
that old movie, the program. Anyway, if you heard, get
back out there, if you're injured, go see a doctor.
We use that today. I'm not questioning whether or not
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his sciatic hurts, but it's Lebron James. Okay, And did
you notice last night? Last year? Okay, last year, Jay
su what happened? Opening night? Bronni played and we were
and we were told that Bronni is gonna gonna be
(27:38):
a rotation player year two. Anybody see the box score
last night?
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I thought the same thing during the game.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Didn't take off the sweats, didn't pee a drop nothing.
You know why, because he can't play at that level.
And the only reason they did it was to pacify Lebron.
And it's pretty obvious that they're over Lebron, right, and
they're over Lebron because of crap. Like last night we
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got Opening night against the Golden State Warriors. We traded
for one of the great players now and in the
future of the game. And you can't play, you can't dress,
you can't run up and down because you're psiatic hurts.
We're never gonna but we're not playing your kid again.
That ain't happening. We're the laughing stock in the league.
By the way, Marcus, no one can wreck a watch
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of a game like Marcus Smart. I mean, look, I
love him, he's a warrior to played for my alma mater.
But it is awful to watch all that flopping and
all the stuff he does. It's like he flops, gets
a charge, then they go down the other end, then
they flop to and it's like it's just the word.
Marcus Smart is the absolute worst watch ever ever. That
stuff is so over the top and so done. The
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only thing more done is the Lakers with Lebron He's
like he's monitoring the situation. We're monitoring the situation. Do
you want to play or not want to play? If
you don't play, fine, sorry, ain't no play an ord
about it. But Luca's got it. We're all right. You know, hey,
guess what had you played last night? We probably beat
the Warriors, or if we can trade it and get
anything of value, we probably beat the Warriors. By the way,
(29:17):
what's the big guy from the the Lakers who said
he's gonna try and get a Slovenian passport. What the
kid from Texas Jackson Ja Sorry, yeah, oh Jackson Hayes.
He came out and he said he's he's gonna get
to Slovenian's He's gonna try and get a Slovinian passport
(29:37):
so you can play with him on the national team.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I will say this, something stood out to me last
night and it had Lebron James effect as well. It
was fun watching Steph Curry. Steph Curry is now in
the old guys group. Yeah, and he's not the He's
still a huge star. My point is is there's a
point where old guys like us really up to other
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old guys in the league because they're still doing it.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Like, even if you hated Tom Brady, you're I think
at some point you're like, wow, it's not with the
Patriots anymore. And look at him at forty four. We
aren't that way with Lebron. We aren't looking at him
in a warm fashion. Now there may be NBA Twitter
guys that will say, man, look at what Lebron's doing
in season twenty three at gonna be forty one years old.
(30:24):
I go, yeah, Like, there's there's not the warming up
to lebron Well, it's because of stuff like this, Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Stuff like this. I'm just telling you, like when I
saw that Bronni didn't play, and it's the siatic And
then he's if you've seen him out here there everywhere. Again,
I'm not doubting that his back hurts. I actually had
a sciatic problem like my sophomore year in high school. Right,
just get this nerve thing in your back. You don't know.
It feels like a two worn hamstring, feels like you're
killing your back. I get it. And he's one of
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the greatest, if not the greatest in some people's minds,
basketball player ever. And if you're not right, you don't go.
But dude, it's opening night and you offered no desire,
opportunity and everything. Everything we're hearing is he's hurt. He's
not injured. He could be going. He's just throwing a
hissy pit and trying to make his point about you
can't win without me. That's what he's doing. And if
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the Lakers really cared, they would have thrown Brownie in
there last night. They don't. They don't. What about you, guys,
what about you?
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Jaysetu there's so many stories. But if you put a
gun to my head, if you waived a gun on
social media and then you placed it to my head,
I would say that Jah Morant is my favorite story
wine going into this season. He has missed upwards. I
(31:43):
think of seventy games over the past two seasons, and frankly,
I don't care or know where the suspensions end and
the injuries begin. I don't know. He's largely just unavailable.
When he gets onto the court, he does something really
stupid and Adam Silver has to remove him and suspend him.
(32:05):
When he's on the court, he gets injured. He said
the other day he wants to play eighty two games. Well,
he's never played more than sixty seven. That was his
rookie season, and he has yet to show us that
he has matured. Remember that one just complete ruse of
an interview when Jalen Rose sat down with him in
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two years and really held his feet to the fire.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Is so bad.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
He skated on that. He has skated on the suspension since,
has yet to really prove to us that he's learned anything.
But when he's playing, he's one of the most exciting
players in basketball. I think right, Yeah, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
It's been years since we got quit crazy on job
morand but yes, kind of my head, that's a story.
I mean Zion Williamson kind of in that job Moran, Right, Yeah,
I think that's honestly. Look, and I want to say,
I'm want to hear yours. It's one of the things
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hurt in the NBA is Okay, we have this group
of guys that are clearly over the hill, right So
that's Lebron. You got Lebron, you got Steph kd. Giannis
is sort of working his way there sort of maybe
not fully whatever, but that that group, right is is
getting older. But you had a couple of these young
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ones and Jaw and Zion are guys that weight injury
off the court just killing them. And that next wave,
that next generation. That's why these the foreign players continue
to take over because they don't seem to I mean, yeah,
with Luca it's been weight, but it hasn't affected him
that much. And obviously with the with Giannis and Jokic, right,
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they're dominant players that take care of themselves and don't
have off the court issues. So that's as much the
reason for the European takeover as anything else, and that
is the Midway.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
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Speaker 1 (34:18):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
and today is a Wednesday. That means we are two
days away from the World Series. And the guy who's
joined us all season long, the guy who you should
listen to. He's our Fox Sports Radio MLB insider and
reporter for the MLB Network, John Morosi joins us here
on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio, and John,
(34:40):
I think the first thing that pops up in most
people's minds with the level of dominance that the Dodgers
had in the NLCS versus the unbelievable ending to the
alcs's the rest versus rust, what are the Dodgers doing
to prepare themselves for the World Series? Considering the amount
of time that they've.
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Had off, well, Dougan Afternoon Happy World Series coming up
a great time of the year, it does seem to
me that Dodgers has done a pretty good job of
planning out this time. The best they can. It certainly
has been an issue for teams in the past when
when you're not playing for a while, that can be
a real challenge. I covered multiple Detroit Tigers World Series
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in which they were they had the longer layoff and
really suffered from it. I do think it advantages the
Dodgers that, yes, they can have a couple of workouts
at Dodger Stadium and then you've got to make the
travel to go to the next city to begin the
World Series on the road. So it's not as though
they're getting too stale by staying at home for too long.
And of course it does help this team. Many of
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the players Doug had a very similar experience just a
year ago being in the World Series. So this seems
to me to be a Dodger team that's going to
be able to handle this long layoff before Game one.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Okay, does the rotation change at all concidering the amount
of time off, No, it.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
Doesn't, and nor should it. I think that they're gonna
have to begin this World Series Blake snow starting out
Yoshinobu Yamamoto with Game two. Dave Roberts has confirmed that
much of it I would expect we'll see a similar
plan with Tyler Glass now and showe a Otani in
Games three and four. There are very few teams, Doug,
that have the type of starting depth that the Dodgers do.
(36:24):
And I think we should be clear and saying that
it wasn't always apparent that they would have had this
amount of depth during the course of the season, because
they had different injuries that they that they incurred, other
things that happened to them during the course of the
year where they had to build up this depth as
time gradually went along. But now that they've got it,
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now that Yamamoto has dialed in, now that Blake Snell
is pitching like a Saia winner again, They've They've got
o Tani, by the way, pitching Game four, for goodness
sake told me. They have so much depth right now.
And I think that bullpen has gotten into a good
space too, to where sure, yes, Toronto has what I
would say is a very good contact oriented lineup, but
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they're running up against one of the best swing and
missstaffs that we have ever seen, frankly, Doug in recent years.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Okay, let let's uh, let's dig in the to the
Otani thing. He didn't hit particularly, he didn't hit hardly
at all, right, and then all of a sudden he
has this unbelievable performance. We look back on last year's
World Series and the Yankees did a really good job,
really good job on him. What what Obviously it fell
apart in Game four, But what were the Brewers? What
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are the Yankees? What are these teams done to stifle
one of the greatest hitters, if not the greatest hitter
of all time.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
Well, it's trying to keep him uncomfortable, Doug, and I
think you can do that through a combination of a
couple of different elements. It's probably trying to as best
you can, have breaking pitches that challenge him, try to
get him a little bit into swing mode where maybe
you're you're geting him and counts where he's expecting fastball
and instead you flip a breaking ball in. I do
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think trying to get him below the strike zone and
get him to chase a little bit is how you
can have success. Now, obviously that's a two part equation.
He's not always going to chase, but when when you
do get him in situations where he's got to face
a split, which is the main pitch of Gossmin. It's
the main pitch of you Savage, so he's going to
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see it in games one and two. I think you
look at what's happening potentially in the in game three four,
I look at it and say there are enough weapons
that the Jays can throw at him and different types
of pitches on it. I thought Bieber's slider looked really
good in the second of his two starts there against
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the Mariners in the American League Championship Series. So even
though you don't have the kind of lefties that you
would love to run up against Otani, and maybe that's
gonna put a little bit of a burden on the
Toronto bullpen. I do think when when the Jays are
when the Jay's pitchers are in form, you do have
the types of guys like Bieber and you Savage in particular,
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who can be a little bit split neutral, and so
I think that their their ability to locate the splitter
down under the zone, disguise it like a fastball and
get Otani in swing mode. That's when you can add
success getting him out of the zone. If you're giving
him fastballs in the zone, you might as well forget
about it because he's just going to crush those and
and I think if you try to elevate a fastball,
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he can get on top of that as well as anybody.
We saw him hit a ball out of the stadium
at Dodgers Stadium. This is these are just other worldly
superhero things that Otani is doing. So I think that
the key thing is going to be, especially for a
team that has all right handed starting pitchers, Doug, They're
gonna have to locate their secondary stuff down. And I
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think that where Goslin got in trouble the first time
he started was when he had that that splitter a
little bit too high to cal Raley. If you have
things that are thigh high, so Tani is just it's
not going to work. You've got to be down out
of his own and then find ways to get him
to chase s.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, John Morosi
is joining us. On the other side, you have Vlad
Guerrero Junior. He's he's had his own struggles in the postseason.
What are people doing to ta Vlad?
Speaker 8 (40:20):
Well? Lad, I mean, when you look at what he's
been able to do the last the last round he's
been amazing and he's been the American League, the Championship Series, MVP.
I think that in terms of what the Dodgers will
do to him, what you I think what the book
is on Vlad and it's obviously been mixed results because
because the Mariners weren't able to always keep him in
the ballpark. Is he's able to hit the ball so
(40:41):
well to the opposite field, to where sometimes with certain
right handed hitters you're saying, well, to keep the ball
away from him, Well, you do that to Vladdie, He's
already showed he can hit the ball out of the
stadium to right field as well. He looks to me
and Doug, I covered Miguel Cabrera in Detroit for a
long time. He looks like early career Miguel and mcguilbert
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is gonna be in Hall of Fame, and Lad has
a decent chance to join his dad in the Hall
of Fame, which is pretty amazing to say. So, that's
what I'm seeing there is is you're gonna have to
if if you are, if you're the Dodgers, You're not
gonna just be able to get him out over the plate.
You're gonna have to command the ball in off the
plate well to then earn the right to be able
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to go outside. And I think that's that's the challenge,
even for a team that's got great stuff like the
Dodgers do as a as a group of pitchers. I
do think Yamamoto's stuff of all the matchups, he probably
fits the best in terms of the way that Yoshinobu
game plans. We sell them have that complete game against
the Brewers. I actually think Game one I like the
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Jays chances to win Game one. Blake Snell is amazing,
of course, but that allows the Jays to get their
right handed bats in there. And while Snell is able
to command you know, cutter sink or he can kind
of move the ball around a little bit command both
to the plate.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
I think that the.
Speaker 8 (42:02):
Matchup of Laddie against Snell, the matchup of Springer against Snell,
I think that the I think Toronto Blue Jays have
a decent chance in that Game one. And we'll see
Doug if they end up being able to activate Boba Schett,
who of course has missed the initial rounds of the
playoffs due to a knee injury, but told me after
Game seven of the celebration. He is good to go
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for the World Series. So we'll see what role, if any,
Bowl might have. Maybe he's gonna be more of a
pinch hitter type, Doug. But I'm curious to see what
type of decisions that Toronto Blue Jays make about Boba
Schet think.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
About this vladd who was I mean, he hit over
four to forty in the playoffs so far, but against
lefties in the entire year regular season, three to twenty
six on base forty three percent of the time OPS
is nine to forty six. Against right He's still respectable
to eighty two on base three sixty seven and eight
(42:56):
one eight eight eighteen ops. Just so much higher against lefties,
crazy amount amount higher against lefties. So I mean, you're
talking about what is it, you know, forty three percent
of the time he's on base as opposed to thirty
seven percent of the time beyond base and then the
OPS be so higher. It's it's really interesting that That's
(43:19):
why I asked if they're going to keep the rotation
the way it is. But again, you have Blake's now
who's been in these big moments, right what about the
Dodger bullpen which has been the bane of our guy
Jason Stewart's existence, right, and they they did enough to
sweep the Brewers, but Game one was still very, very alarming.
What what do you think the plan is in terms
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of who they're going to use in the World Series.
Speaker 8 (43:44):
Well, first of all, Doug, I let Jase two know
that I've got to send condolences because he's had to
deal with a grand total of one playoff loss this
whole month. I know it's been real hard on him.
You lose one game and it's a crisis, but they're
actually doing okay. I think that the fact that Blake
Trinan has returned to the circle of trust is really
(44:07):
important because I know, obviously Blake has some struggles down
the stretch, and obviously the Game one against Milwaukee was
a little frightful for the Dodgers. There's there's a little
bit of I think confidence rebuilding now in him, and
to me, the steadiness of trying is really important in
the ability for Roki Sasaki to be settled now. As
(44:29):
as the late game option, and I think you credit
the Dodgers. I know Jeff Paster wrote about this late
on in the season, about the kind of workshop they
did with Roki to get him lined up and to
get him better. I just thought overall, tremendous work that
he that Roki's been able to do to get comfortable
again in a late ending situation and really embrace his
(44:51):
new role. So I think that those two guys stand
out to me as being the most important Tryna in Sasaki.
And then we'll see what what bestI is able to
do of being a legit left handed option they've got.
The Jays have a number of key lefties. Lucas is
really important to them, Addison Barge is really important to them.
Dalton varshow had a huge hit in Game seven, so
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I'm curious to see a little bit of what that
will mean for the overall bullpen planning now of this team. Again,
I think that there's there's enough depth for the Dodgers
to be able to navigate this, and who knows, maybe
in certain spots we'll see what this means later on
down the line. Does does Glass now pop out there
for an appearance here and there. But I think that
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the success of the Dodgers in the especially in the NLCS,
I think was predicated largely on the fact that very
few pitchers had to touch the ball. Their starters got
so deep that the bullpen did almost didn't have an
opportunity to become a problem. And I think it's gonna
have to be a similar situation here to where the
starters need to go deep. And I think this now
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feeds into what we're talking about with the Toronto Blue Jays.
If very to work deeper at bats, if they're able
to force the starters to leave after six innings instead
of seven, then you have to cover three more outs
of the bullpen, and then you're giving the Dodger bullpen
a chance to become a negative impact on this series.
If you're the Dodger, so I'll be curious to me
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to see not just in Game one, how many runs
this score against now, but how many how many pitches
can they make him have to work through early? If
you could, if you get a high pitch count blakes now,
then all of a sudden, the Dodger bullpen needs to
be relied on a bit more, and I think that's
what could swing the series into Toronto's favor.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, John Rossi
is our guest. You know, I was thinking, you were
talking about you like Toronto game one, and you brought
up a lot of good reasons why, And then I
was thinking again out loud, is I get the rust thing?
But if you're the Dodgers, and it's better off to
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start art on the road that way, if you just
get a split, you have home field advantage when you
come back home. But but the the Blue Jays have
been great on the road, right, Look what they did
in Seattle. On the road they've been They've been really,
really good in the road. Is there any difference in
your mind in these venues and the ultimate and the outcomes.
Speaker 8 (47:17):
Yeah, it's a great question. I think that Number one,
the Jays were able to play at Dodger Stadium this
year already once, and so I think that they don't.
Maybe the mystique and the and and the intimidation factor,
if you will, of playing at Dodger Stadium is probably
not as great for them as it would have been
if they hadn't been out there. Dodger Staateum is a
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great environment. Toronto was one of the loudest stadiums I've
ever heard in my life with Finger at that home
run uh Seattle by the Way was also very raucous.
I don't think the Jays are going to experience are
a more raucous or more hostile environment than what they
experienced in Seattle already. And they also went through Yankee Stadium.
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So I mean, with all tue respect of Dodger Stadium,
which is a great place to play and loud, I
don't think it's gonna be any scarier for the Jays
than what they've already experienced in New York and in Seattle.
I think that they've already gone through a couple quality teams,
They've already gone through a couple of difficult venues. They
split the two games in New York and they took
two out of three in Seattle, so they've shown they
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can win games on the road. They're also a really
good home team during the course of the year. This
is a very close series. I think that those that
believe it's going to be a sweep for the Dodgers,
I just think that they're they're kind of missing how
good the Jays have been. They're also missing the quality
of the postseason type baseball of the Jays play, and
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part of that is building rallies. I think one thing
that the Jays did better than the Mariners during the
ALCS was they would build a rally where it would
be walk, single, double, another base hit. They could build
in a bunt. Where the Mariners were very much home
run dependent. The Jays, while the biggest fing of their
season was a home run with Springer, they were also
(49:07):
able to build rallies and that, to me is something
that I think will serve them very very well against
the Dodgers. I think we're gonna see two great atmospheres.
Dodger Stadium, to me, is still my favorite venue in sports.
It's magic, especially when you're there five o'clock Pacific time game,
the sun's reflecting off the San Gabriel's you realize that
God intended for baseball, we played at that exact place
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at that exact time, and you're just grateful to be there.
So there's gonna be that magic that exists. But I
think what they've got at Rogers Center now, it's become
a state of the art venue in the last couple
of years, they've renovated it. The players love it there.
It's a true ballpark feel now, more than just a stadium.
Of course, once upon a time they shared it with
the Toronto Argonauts the CFL. It is now a true
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baseball stadium, Doug and I think it's going to be
a very worthy site for Game one of the World
Series here this weekend.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
John Lucky one, right, you get to cover this thing.
It's gonna be so much fun, and it is Canada
versus LA, and it's gonna be really exciting. Thanks so
much for being our guests. We look forward to listening
to during the World Series and talk with you more
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (50:12):
All the best, dog, very best wishes for its great
college hoops season two. It's a wonderful time of year,
my friend. All the best wishes to you too,
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