October 24, 2025 • 46 mins
On a Friday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug previews the World Series as it starts Friday night in Toronto and brings up the news of an important part of the Dodgers' bullpen having a personal matter removing him from the World Series roster.
Doug and Dan Beyer discuss the Packers-Steelers game on Sunday as Aaron Rodgers faces his former team.
Doug weighs in on the latest Aaron Glenn exchange with reporters. Doug welcomes former Bucs General Manager Mark Dominik onto the show to talk about Aaron Rodgers, the Jets and all of the headlines around the NFL.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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a great day. It's a Friday. It's a football Friday.
It's a basketball Friday. NBA games litter throughout arenas. Obviously
a lot of the talk of the gambling scandal, which
is taken over sports talk. It is also a World
Series Friday. A World Series Friday. Check that one out. Huh.
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It's pretty good, pretty good. Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, I'm
excited too. Hey, I'm I'm fired up too. I mean,
not as fired up as as Jace do is, maybe
not as fired up as others are, but I'm fired up.
We have a really good show. Obviously, got some picks
for you. The Sunday night game is going to be outstanding.
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Aaron Rodgerson and I do I will share with you
some of the kind of sentiment in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Some things are kind of working out in Aaron's favor
that I I mean that are not his doing. And
you can hear by the things he Aaron is saying
that he's either reached a place of peace with the
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Green Bay Packers or he's trying this is a peace offering.
So we'll get you prepped for that. Aaron Glenn, we
still don't know about who his quarterback is. That actually
tells you who his quarterback is. If Aaron Glenn hasn't
told us whose quarterback is, we know whose quarterback is.
And we got the gambler for you. We got the
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gambler for you. Let me start with the World Series
because there was some news that came out a couple
hours ago, which I think is one classic baseball and
two classic to these types of of phenomenal matchups. Right
the teams are separated by one game in terms of
what they did in the regular season. Right then, the
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Blue Jays win one game more than than the Dodgers.
That's why they have home field. So these are two
very close teams, and granted, regular season does not always
translate to postseason. Both are teams that have spent a
lot of money. The Dodgers more money. But you spend
five hundred million for Vlaguerer or Junior and we can't
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say you're one of the have nots and the haves
and have nots. This is a should be a phenomenal series, right.
The Dodgers are going to throw out a lefteed tonight,
who's pitched in a World series, pitched well, was unbelievable
in that World Series with the with the UH with Tampa,
and was great in the NLCS. And the one thing
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that the Blue Jays do is they eat up left
hand pitching. And the one time we saw the Dodgers
bullpen have a chance to do something special, right, that's
when Blake Snell pitched the eight scoreless, basically twenty four up,
twenty four down. Going back to the NLCS, the bullpen
nearly spit up all over themselves. That's where this news
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and maybe I need to ask Jay stew about it.
We'll get to him in a second. Alex Vacilla is
a left handed reliever. He's the guy. He sweats a lot.
He's Vessia, sorry, Alex Vesia is. He's a big sweater
like he's a guy that's up there as nervous as
you are watching. He looks to be more nervous when
he's uh uh when he's pitching. But he's been And again,
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I'm not gonna sit here and challenge Jason Stewart. I'm
not gonna sit here and challenge Elias Sports Bureau. I
don't know everything about the Dodgers' bullpen and what's failed
them and why they did didn't go after some of
the big name guys that we thought were available at
the trade deadline, but I can tell you that it
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appears to me he's been maybe the guy you can
most count on so far. So we don't know why,
but we were told it's a deeply personal family matter
and that it was almost a condolence's type of statement
put out by the Dodgers. And it's not just that
he's going to miss the games in Toronto. They put
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out their twenty six man roster and he's not on
the World Series roster, which means he can't pitch in
the World Series, which means whatever is holding him out.
It's not like he's going to take a couple of
days off, take a personal day and come back and pitch.
He's not pitching. And I think back to when the
Calves came back against the Golden State Warriors in the
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NBA Finals. We were down three games to one. Everyone
still talks about Draymond Green getting suspen, but very few people,
if anybody outside of me, says, you know, Andrew Bogut
went down, didn't play in games five, six, and seven.
Andrew Bogan was the starter. He was a great screener,
great passer, rebounder. He fit the Warriors perfectly. That was
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a big part of what allowed Cleveland to come back
and win three consecutive games. Nobody actually believes that because
they talk about, well, the fact that Kevin Durant joined
that team they won seventy three games, they weren't the
same team, and Vesia is the perfect example of that.
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Yes they still have Mookie Betts, Yes they still have
Shoho Tani, Yes they still have Blakestown, They still have
you know, Will Smith behind the plate. They still have
what many people believe to be like an all star
team sort of lineup. But how many times have we
seen middle and late relief decide not just playoff games,
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but World series. It seems like every year and the
lefty that has given them the best work so far
in the postseason isn't going to pitch in the World Series.
And I'm not gonna say that's ominous or whatever, but
we if we look back at things that are just
bad luck, because you do need luck. I've never understood
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why people don't like to talk about luck. We always
wish people good luck before for little kids going to
a game, Hey good luck, you know, before the game,
when you shake hands in the captain's meetings, you always go, hey, man,
good luck. When you go out in the court, you'll
have fans wish you good luck. But then when you win,
no one ever goes, you know, we have some good
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luck there. They just rarely do that. In the bad
luck losing him, you know, and finding out and announcing it,
and I'm sure they didn't announce they knew before this,
but announcing it the day of first day of the
World Series, it's bad luck. But I do think that
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those are the type of things that can tip series
in another team's favor. And it has nothing to do
with the top end stars that are at the top
of the billing. He's not the closer he's not the starter.
He might not even be technically the setup man, like
trying to might be the setup man, but a lefty
out of the pen who's given you the best innings
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in the postseason. Not being on the roster and not
being hurt, just being a deeply personal matter. Again, I
don't know what it is. So it's not like I'm
sitting here accusing him of faking in or having something negative. No,
I'm sure it's on the up and up. But I'm
just saying that's the type of thing that can affect
a series, and we'll look back and nobody mentions it
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When you saw that and saw that news, as much
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as you've been on the Dodgers about what they have
and more importantly to you, what they have not done
to their bullpen, how much does that affect your faith
in your Dodgers in the series.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I think it doesn't impact it. I don't think we're
gonna win the series. But I said, or does not? Hello?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
You say it does or does not?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It does impact the series? Yep?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Does? Okay, go ahead. I'm sorry you said that. The
fact that you already think they're going to lose the series.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Correct, but I don't think I think they'll lose it worse. Now.
I just read a piece on Alex a month ago.
This is I think he was like an eighteenth or
twentieth round pick who didn't, you know, make the roster,
and then he made the roster, and he's been on
the Dodgers the last five years. His career postseason numbers,
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and when you when you play for the Dodgers, you
pitch in the postseason a lot are phenomenal. He's got
like a one point eighty six ERA and twenty six appearances.
He's done good this postseason. You're right, he's like the
one guy down there that we could really depend on. Now,
the last two World Series that we've won, we've done
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it with our bullpen. So the difference this year is
that we have such limitations down there that his presence
is going to be more impactful than ever. So I
said before the postseason, the Dodgers need to kind of
reimagine how their bullpen goes because it was so dreadful
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during the season. They literally just need to scrap it
and build back up. They put Roki Sasaki as their closer.
That's been more hits than missus. They luckily haven't even
had to pitch Tanner Scott. He hasn't even been available.
He's awful, and for whatever reason, Blake Trinen has been effective.
But this is a big lot. Answer your question, short
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answer a guest, This has a big impact.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Coming up on the Doug Gottlieb Show. You got to
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It's a it's an eye or maybe in this case,
an ear opener. It's up coming next.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
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Speaker 1 (10:24):
What up put your Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app Welcome in Hope. You're having a great day,
getting ready for a great weekend celebrated with some sports.
Fall is here mid October, Green Bay, Wisconsin. We're waiting
on one game for the Packers and then we're a
week in, three days away from a first game for
my Green Bay Phoenix. Welcome in Hope. The world is
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treating you. Okay, here on a Friday, got game one
of the World Series tonight. We got NBA games tonight.
College football. Kind of a slate of college football. Good
game its most notably SEC NFL. Same thing. There's like
one or two games. Not a great football weekend. Should
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be a good weekend for baseball. Good weekend for baseball.
I want to start with the game of the weekend
that everybody's gonna talk about is the Packers and taking
on Aaron Rodgers and the the Pittsburgh Steelers. First thing
is so so Dan. Let me get this straight. Neither
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of them are wearing their traditional uniforms in this game.
This in the traditional uniform world, this is as good
as it gets. Right. Steelers at home should be wearing
their blacks with their yellow pants, and the Packers should
be wearing their road whites also with their yellow pants.
That's not going to happen. I like what the Packers
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are doing, you know, wearing the those all whites are cool,
but I don't think this is the game aim to
do that.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
That feels like a Thursday night thing, not a Sunday
night thing. Sunday night Packers Steelers. Shouldn't they be wearing
their traditional uniforms.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Well, they both should be, but that's not how things
work in the NFL. I don't mind the Packers want
as much. Again, they just need a gold stripe on
the helmet. It's the medieval times thing that the Steelers
are that they're going to be wearing. That just bothers me.
The brown pants, whatever they've got, whatever pattern that is
on the front of their jersey, the shield, that's just
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I just I understand not forgetting the past, but this
just doesn't do anything for anybody except maybe sell a
few more jerseys for the NFL.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Is anybody gonna buy that thing?
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Oh yeah, there will be. I just don't know if
they'll make their money back on it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
It is uh yeah, it's ugly and it's it just
does nothing for the game, does nothing. There's just so
much about dress is what's appropriate, not about if you
actually dress. Well. It's one of the things I love
about Green Bay, Wisconsin is there's nothing, ever that's kind
of inappropriate in terms of dressing down right. You go
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to a bar and you know this, Dan, It's like
you're sitting next to the guy he's wearing jeans and boots,
and you're like, he could be a multi millionaire, or
he could have just got done working on my truck
in the shop. There's no no real difference there. So
how you dress and being underdressed like this is one
where it's pretty simple. It's pretty simple. Packers, Steelers, let's
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not screw it up. Where's something that resembles your traditional
uniforms because these are the ones in which those images
are going to go out for years and years and
years on. Remember when Aaron Rodgers, I mean, look, I
remember when the Packers took on the Vikings at home
and Brett Favre came in and won the game. The
Vikings were wearing their traditional uniforms. Why or as Boomer
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would say, despn what and then there's something else that
go ahead? I'm sorry I just said what what?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
What?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah? But Rogers is doing that kind of grandfather thing
right where you know, it's it's his kind of waning days,
and so he's talking nice when like, were you that nice?
A long time ago? Here's Aaron Rodgers talking about his
time in Green Bay and Green Bay is gonna have
a good team this year.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
If it was a game today, hips he is limited, okay,
all right today, and he is questionable.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
And I like the way those guys are trended.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
So are you able to tell us who's.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Gonna feel so good about my time? Man?
Speaker 8 (14:39):
Because them there Everything great in my life is because
of you know, my football career, and my football career starts,
and we'll.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
End one day with with Green Bay. So we got
a lot of love for all.
Speaker 8 (14:49):
Those memories and a lot of great friends that still
carry with me to this day.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
He says he it will end with Green Bay. Does
does that mean the Packers are going to do one
of those one day contract things? Right? Because there is
the world where're like, wait, is he gonna come back
to Green Bay as a backup quarterback to Jordan Love.
I'm gonna tell you what. The best thing that happened
to Aaron Rodgers is Jordan Love's good. But he's in
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comparison to Aaron Rodgers. Just okay, that's that's the reality
of it. Living in this town. It's it was. It
was kind of a marriage that had to end at
some point, him getting hurt and not having you know,
greatness and not rubbing it in the face of the Packers,
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I think helped. I think there's a younger generation of
people that they grew up with Aaron Rodgers, love Aaron Rodgers,
and they they're never gonna see the bad side. And
then I think what adds to that is Jordan Love's
not been bad, but he hasn't been great, and that
helps build up Aaron Rodgers legacy. And then I think
the last part is Aaron Rodgers is pretty good to
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Jordan Love, whereas far was not great to Aaron Rodgers
for a long time. And I think they're seeing different
very differently. Despite the fact there are two Hall of
Fame quarterbacks that each won a Super Bowl, that each
left Green Bay and both situations in which they left
both left for the Jets, and they were both kind
of weird now they left. Rogers is still more beloved,
I think than Farvies. Now. As a native Wisconsinite, how
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do you view Aaron Rodgers today, especially now when he's
saying only nice things about Green Bay?
Speaker 5 (16:30):
I think in time that he'll be welcome back, just
like Brett Favre was welcome back. And I think that
day will come for Aaron Rodgers. The unfortunate thing about
this matchup is that it's in Pittsburgh, and so we
can try to play up this. Rogers faces his former team,
faces his former head coach. I think that there's something there,
but again, it's Rogers played mostly with Mike McCarthy, so
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there's that aspect of it. It would be completely different
if this game was in Green Bay, and I'd be
curious to see the reception that Rogers got. I think
that Farv was loved more than Rogers was, but when
Farv did leave for Minnesota, that was something that certain
Packer fans couldn't get over at that time. Rogers playing
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for the Jets and then the Steelers doesn't interfere with
the Packers world in a way, but going to the
hated rival of Minnesota, when many Packer fans stuck with
stuck with Farv when he went to the Jets. I
know I've told this story before on this show, but
the CBS affiliate in Milwaukee requested that they air they
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get the Jets games to air in their market because
they had the AFC package. It was before Fox and
CBS could exchange AFC and NFC games. When CBS was
basically the home of the AFC. The market in Milwaukee
asked to carry jets when Farv was in New York
because there was a contingent of fans that wanted to
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watch Farv. I don't think that happened with Aaron Rodgers.
So and also because this is happening again, that there's
another quarterback. So while Farv like burned Bridges by going
to Minnesota, I don't think that he was as loved
as Farv is. But I do think there will be
a day where Aaron Rodgers will get his day in
the sun in Green Bay again.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
You know, there is another side to it being in Pittsburgh.
It does feel very un Pittsburgh like though, to have
Aaron Rodgers be their quarterback. And look, I can't tell
you that I've studied Pittsburgh's teeler history or Pittsburgh's teeler lore. Right,
it's really interesting on how nobody mentions the Bubby Bridsters
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of the world, the Cordell Stewart. So this role whin
slash was their guy. They went to Tommy Maddox and
tried to spread it out and ran Tommy Gunn the
offense whatever. But the Steelers. For the Steelers to take
on somebody else's legend is it's just not Steeler like.
And I know they did it last year with Russell
Wilson as well. This is a very different way for
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the Steelers to do business. Their two Super Bowl winning
quarterbacks were drafted by the Steelers and played for the Steelers.
Roethlisberger never played for anybody else, So it does it
feels like a brave new world for the Steelers, whereas
the Packers have actually been through this before. And then
I also think, and you brought up the time, will
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it's the old time? Will heal all old wounds? This
is a lot like a divorce right where they're each
dating somebody else now and the Packers like, yeah, we're good.
We have Jordan Love. We love Jordan Love. Right, their
relationship was sort of complicated when they got them and
now it's kind of worked out. But I'm sure there's
anybody who watches, and I know this from so many
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everybody here's a Packer fan. Is the Hey, I love
Jordan Love the person like he's easy, he's not. There's
not as much Aaron can be hard, but he's not
as good as Aaron Rodgers and or nor has he
been even close to Aaron Rodgers when Aaron was twenty seven,
like not close? And then you know, and then I
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think Packers fans who would be jealous or sit there
and go like, hey, look at who Aaron Rodgers dated
for two years, dated the Jets for two years. Now
with the Steelers, it's like it feels like the Packers
dated somebody half their half the age of their last spouse,
and Aaron Rodgers went with somebody his own age, doesn't
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it like the Steelers are kind of traditional and you
know they're they're I think they're playing up his experience,
They're using it, they're leaning on it. It does feel
like he's dated somebody sort of his own age after
trying to date somebody wild post divorce, and the Green
Bay pack have have taken on somebody young, stable and
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kind of trying to mold them into the in the
significant other that they want Jordan Love to be. That's,
by the way, my most Colherdian uh parallel that I
could I could find.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
I'll tell you talk you talk about dating Doug. It
is interesting because when you compare farv Love by Wisconsin
people during his time there and Rogers love. You know,
fav and his wife Deanna were very visible, and Deanna's
battle through cancer made far you know, even more relatable,
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and so she was a part of the fabric of
the community. What's interesting is Rogers had celebrity relationships in
the smallest market that there is. But when even when
when Rogers was leaving Green Bay, you would hear conversations
of places that Rogers would go, Rogers would eat, and
no one had a bad thing to say about them.
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So those direct one on one conversations or the places
that he would go locally, there was nothing negative ever
said about Aaron Rodgers. But it's funny on just on
how how their lives were viewed, because I think Brett
Favre Rogers California kid, right, kid from cal West Coast
comes to Green Bay. Farv's the old Mississippi bumpkin, you know,
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coming up north. Loves to hunt and fish and do
that stuff which a lot of people like to do
in that area, you know, a little bit more relatable.
I don't know, they love them just the same, but
they the Packer fans loved them both for a variety
of different reasons, and the different reasons that they had
were interesting when you compare one to the other.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
As well. Some of the Aaron Rodgers recent stuff wears
you out. You're rooting for Rogers. You're rooting for the
Packers in a game in which you have no you
have no real rooting interest.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Who am I rooting for Steelers helps the sea bos?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Okay, Yeah, that's an out of the way that I
never even thought of. That angle to it, Jay, Dude,
is this you love? You love stories like this more
than the actual games itself. Right, That's like one of
the things you love. We love our jobs. You love storylines.
What's the better story Packers housing the Steelers, Steelers being
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the Packers.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Let's be clear, I love my job. I don't want
Shapiro to think I don't love my job. I do.
I really love storylines, and I like Aaron Rodgers. I've
always said this. In ten fifteen years, I think we're
going to look back on Aaron Rodgers, especially how things
are playing out with everything that's come out about COVID
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and everything else. We're going to look back and be
like we were damn foolish for not taking advantage of
a quarterback playing at this highest level being the best
and the most popular sport in the co tree who
would speak his mind, wouldn't speak in cliches, would speak
his mind and say interesting things. You might not agree
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with everything, but he says thought provoking things. So every
time he takes the field, I root for him to win,
and I root for him to win the Super Bowl.
If the Chargers aren't in the Super Bowl, I want
I want Aaron Rodgers to uh.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I'm rooting for the Steelers. I'll tell you why in
a second. The only thing I will push back on
Jase too is the lying about the when he said
he was They say he was inoculated with the immunized. Immunized.
That killed everything that you said, because his whole thing
was he wanted to speak the truth, and then in
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his moment where he could have stood up and said no,
I got a different treatment, I chose not to, he
lied about it, and then since then he's been digging out.
I actually agree with you on all the other stuff he's.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
I think he's been in the forefronts of of everything.
I don't think gonna miss anything. I don't think I
think we've almost overcovered Aaron Rodgers at times.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I just think in regards to what Jason said, which
is a quarterback who's an MVP of the league that's
willing to actually speak their mind in this world of
the cliches. Jason has told everybody on air off air
that on his tombstone, he wants he searched for the
opposite of whatever BS is and that's why he likes
Aaron Rodgers. Right. My point is that sounds great that
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he's the one guy that's not full of it, except
for in the one time when he had a chance
to stand up for something that he purports to believe in,
he did not stand up for the thing he poor
ports to believe in. Instead, he was full of it.
There's the rub. I still want to Aaron Rodgers to win.
I just want to ar Rodgers to win because anybody
who's ever left somewhere wants to beat the place they left,
even if the other place didn't do them wrong. Right,
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Like I got in trouble at Notre Dame. I almost
went to Marquette just because they played Notre Dame every year.
Why Because I'm just a compet jerked that way, and
I want to beat the team that I had to leave,
right Like when you're when you leave ESPN to being
there for a decade like I want to. I like
mopping the floor with them and the downfall of their
radio network and the rise of ours. Great. They did
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nothing wrong. They offered me a five year contract. I
walked away. It's fine, good people. There doesn't change for
Aaron Rodgers. I don't think he was in the right.
I don't think he was crazily in the wrong. Think
he overreacted to them drafting a quarterback. But whatever, just
the way my mentality works, Like yeah, I'd kind of
like him. Stick it to the man if you will,
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even if all told like the Packers win. Think the
Packers could be a super Bowl team. At least they
look like it early in the season.
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It's the Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. So Aaron
Glenn continues to dominate the New York headlines, and it's
it's about his handling of what seems to be kind
of reasonable questions. He has it named a starting quarterback
for this weekend's game. The Jets are winless. Their owner
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Woody Johnson came out and said he completely supports the coach.
If they just had a quarterback, they could just complete
a pass. That's what he actually said. Here's the Jets
head coach Aaron Glenn this morning with the reporters when
he was asked about who will be his starting quarterback
this week?
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Did it was a game today?
Speaker 6 (27:38):
He is limited all right today? And he is questionable.
And I like the way those guys are trended.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
So are you able to tell us who?
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I cannot tell you that.
Speaker 9 (27:48):
But is it because you don't want That's exactly its
situational question.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
Isn't that potentially.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
That's exactly why I'm not telling you because.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
I don't want to understand that.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
But I mean, is it partly because of the injuries?
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Exactly why I'm saying it because I don't want to.
I don't know how many time I got to answer
you that it's not going to change yours.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
Who quart is?
Speaker 4 (28:13):
That's gonna be between man and players.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I don't understand this, this tactic. I do understand the
not sharing personal information or in house information with the team,
I mean with with reporters like you. Don't have to.
His health, We don't have to, but just the defiance
of I don't want to, so I'm not going to.
Just so we're aware, there is a moment in which
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he has to name a starter, and he will name
a starter. It won't be a game time decision because
it's not really the way it's supposed to work. And
at some point he's going to get fined by the
NFL because the gamblers, the fantasy football players need to
know who's starting. It should matter nobody has if you have.
If you have either of those two in your fantasy
football team, your fantasy football team is not doing well.
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But it can't affect the betting lines over unders and
of course a lot of other prop bets. Let's just
cut to brass tacks. If if Justin Fields was their starter,
and there was no question, he would answer it as such.
It's no different than if you've been dating a woman
(29:24):
for like a year and you're an adult and somebody goes, hey,
she the one, You're like, yeah, maybe, then she's not right,
Then she's not. If she's the one, you're like, yeah, like,
well are you guys gonna remember? Well, you know, she's
still she's you know, she's getting a master's or she's
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she's got her kids and we want to wait said
timing's not right whatever, but yeah, I mean what yeah, well,
I mean we've been dating a year now, like we
kind of you either know you don't know. And right
now everyone knows that the Jets are going to be
in the quarterback market next year in the offseason, just
like hey, who said that? Oh that was this guy,
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That was this guy. It's two years in a row
where I could tell you that Russell Wilson Justin Fields
would not be the starting quarterback at their respective teams
at the end of the season, and those respective teams
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a guy who wasn't even in the conversation. Right with
the Chargers start of the year three twenty three rushes
one hundred and seventeen yards and Lad McConkey h six catches,
ten targets. It seemed like he was there. It seemed
like he was there. Cooper Rush, That's what we seemed like,
like just always open, always open, Cooper Cup. Did I
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think the the rushes and the flags and the cups,
I'm getting my Cooper's, I'm getting my Cooper's confused by
er you are a uniform police. There was one notable
change to the charger, the charger navies and I did
like those evers in the charger Navy uniforms. Did you
like the number on the helmet.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Yeah, I just thought that the outline on that helmet
without having the numbers outlined, would have looked a lot better.
It's not as noticeable on the white helmet that the
numbers aren't outlined, but it did. I did notice it
on the Navy So the lightning bolt has an outline
to it, but the numbers didn't. And that's what messed
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with me a little bit.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Portraity. Mark Dominic
joins us as he joins us every week here on
the show. Here's a guy spent his entire professional career
from scouting working his way up to the front office
as general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And look,
I know that the kid is hurt, but I think
generally most people have been underwhelmed by JJ McCarthy. And
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then you know, Carson Wentz is a backup, and now's
the back for a reason playing hurt last night. But
I can't help but think Minnesota, they chose poorly. Right,
you had Sam Donald, you had even before you had
Sam Donald, Right, you had h Why am I Why
am I blaying? Oh? Kirk Cousins, Kirk Cousins and now
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you have JJ McCarthy who can't stay healthy and isn't great.
Did they hurt themselves trying to go to the rookie
quarterback or the second year quarterback in his rookie year.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
Well, I mean, obviously everything's unfortunate. I don't feel quite
as distraught over JJ McCarthy yet. I know the numbers
aren't great, and I know it's really been the one
quarter that's kind of caught people's attention. But I do
think of a guy that's only thrown just over forty
passes in the NFL in his career, there's a lot
of room for development still, and so you know, I
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still hold out the hope or the belief that I
think JJ can be a good and starting quarterback in
the Nation Foot League and that the Vikings will will
be on the right side of history on this. I'm
going to stay on that right now, at least, Doug.
But I I, you know, it's it's amazing because the
other guy that you said, Carson Wentz, used to, you know,
be mister popular too, and it's just never quite found
that right home for him either. And you look at
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this Minnesota team and although they're you know, three and four,
or it'll be interesting to get JJ back next week
and see what they can do going forward, just because
I think when you look at them as a as
a team, and you certainly you think about the hopes
of the playoffs and what they had last year. They've
got a couple of games coming up here in Detroit
and Baltimore the next two weeks that are really going
to tell us a lot about JJ, but also tell
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us for the season is going to end up.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I want to play for you something. This is earlier today,
So Aaron Glenn has been doing this thing about not
naming a starter Scott Tad Taylor, who's come back from injury.
Scott justin fields where I don't know if you heard
the sound Woody Johnson said if we could just complete
a pass right like wow, you know that's not what
you want to say about a quarterback you gave two
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years guaranteed to. But take a listen to Aaron Glenn
earlier today. I want to get your thoughts on this.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
If it was a.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Game today, he is limited all right today, and he
is questionable and I like the way those guys are trended.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
So are you able to tell us who's gonna I
cannot tell you that.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
But is it because you don't watch?
Speaker 9 (35:00):
Because that's exactly its situation questions that answer this.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Potentially, that's exactly why I'm not telling you because I.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Don't want to.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
But I understand that. But I mean it, is it
partly because the injuries?
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Exactly why I'm saying it because I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
I don't know how many times I got to answer
you that it's not going to change. You do quer
that's going to be between man players.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I mean, I get that he has his owner's support
as of now. I don't understand the why to be
that way towards the New York media, of all media,
is that you don't want to antagonize for no apparent
reason when you haven't won a game. The New York
media would be one of them. What are your thoughts though,
as a former general manager when you hear that back
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and forth?
Speaker 8 (35:49):
Well, I mean, I do I understand where the coach
is coming from and banged up or not? You know,
trying to figure out exactly what the answer is. I don't.
I don't blame the coach. I don't have as big
a problem with this. I do unders Daniel oh and seven.
And the truth is nothing looks really great. I mean,
the Buys going to make the season seem even longer
after they play the Bengals this week. And so I
think the most important thing, like you said, is and
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I think what he will stay with Aaron Glenn as
the head coach, don't I don't think Aaron Glenn. I
wouldn't move on from him this quickly, even if a
one and done. And we've sadly seen that too many
times in the National Football League. If I'm going to
give Aaron Glenn any you know, punishment, it's for Justin Fields, Doug.
You and I talked about it many times. And you know,
if you're surprised that Justin Fields isn't a great starter,
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it's been shame on you. I mean that's I mean,
he's he's had opportunities, he's flashed in moments, but he's
never shown consistency to expect him to suddenly like now
I'm going to be good. And in the addition, when
you look at the Jets and the revolving door on
the offensive line, some of that's you know, Justin Fields
in terms of the way he plays, but some of
it's you know, Tyro Daylor has been sacked almost ten
times in less than seventy attempts, So that offensive line
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is a disaster. It's just anothery've's got some resources dedicated
to it. I think some of those guys are coming around,
but it's just bad. And I know that you're throwing
a little more gas in on the fire. But I
think Aaron's probably behind the scenes gaining some traction with
the team that he thinks will be there long term.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Mark Dominic our guests here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. I want to get to Aaron
Rodgers because he's taken on his former team and that's
gonna be a story that dominates the weekend. But I
want to ask you about Jordan Love before that, the
up and down in terms of the perception of Jordan
Love right where you go back a couple of years
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ago and you know it wasn't gonna be the fifth
year option, it was going to be a little money.
Then he comes back, plays well, they give him a
gigantic extension. He's been good. But I guess my question
to you is, as a guy who's evaluated that position
for a living for twenty five years, is he like
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now we have enough to go on. What do you
think of Jordan Love and how good he actually is.
Speaker 8 (38:03):
Yeah, I've been I've been on the board with Jordan
Love for a while and as we've kind of talked
to Jordan, uh, you know, I've been a buyer and
a believer and I still am. I just I like
the way he plays the game. I like his his
decision making. He's clearly playing well now. And to think
of all that with a Matthew Golden that's really not
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producing at all in their assistant right, He's he's barely
he's third or fourth on the team and receptions and
Dobbs is the one that really kind of stepped up
a little bit. I just I think the offensive line
is very good there. That's a big key to its
same thing I've talked about the Colton while the culture
being successful, the offensive line. But Jordan Love as a
quarterback and competitor I'm a fan of and I know
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that he's had a little bit of a roller coaster,
but I've stayed on the track with this one. I
just felt like once he's shown me that he can,
you know, dial in which he has been able to
do and make plays all of the field with his
arm talent, let alone just being a solid scrambler and
runner with the football. I don't see the downside in
Jordan Love. I think he's good enough to win you
a Super Bowl. I think he's that good of a quarterback.
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And I think the surrounding cast has stepped up a
little bit in Tucker Craft. You know, I thought that
maybe Luke Musgrave would have a bigger role, but in
the running game he is. And that's why they're having
such success, you know, in the red zone and kind
of the ball in with Jacobs.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
The Colts have the Titans this week, which you got
to feel pretty good about, right then they got the
Steelers on the road, but the Steels will be coming
off what a game they're going all in on. Then
the Falcons at home, then a bye week. They're at
six and one. I watched him against the Chargers, and
I now, I thought they were pretty good. I thought
they were really well coached, especially obviously offensively. But I mean, like, look,
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I look at those wins that they have this year,
and with the exception of the Chargers, which is a
big win, Cardinals, Eh, Raiders not particularly good, Titans fired
their coach, Broncos pretty good, but it was early is
one point. And the Dolphins, who stink right, stink? So
how colt in your mind?
Speaker 8 (40:01):
Yeah, I think they're good, but I think it's one
of those ones where they might end up with a
two seed or a three seed. You know, when you
look at their schedule, They've got Jacksonville still. Twice you
talked about the Titans Atlanta, the Texans that have to
find their way. They don't see the Texans yet, so
there's more wins in here. But I think it's going
to be a two or three seed in the AFC,
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and I think they'll be one and done. I think
they're a good football team. I think you bring up
a great point, and I think that's real is that
you know, we'll see as they play the Kansas City Chiefs,
when they play the San Francisco forty nine ers how
good they are. But they're really not going to be
heavily tested until they get to the postseason, and then
it's just a matter of, you know, where's their health
and everything, and how's Jonathan Taylor doing. But I think
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they're a good football team. I think they're deserving to
be in first place. When you put you know, almost
forty points or thirty five points a game on the board,
you deserve to be where you are in terms of
the standings. But you know, I think every Colts fan
would say, hey, look, this is much that I anticipated,
but will also have holding their breath in the postseason
and going which team will show up? Is it going
to be the one that's you know, played well all
season long but has beaten to your point to the
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Tennessee Titans, or is it the one that showed up
and beat the Denver Broncos. We too, I'm leaning towards
you know, they're going to make the postseason, but I
don't see a run here.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Aaron Rodgers is going to take it on his former team.
He's looked more and more comfortable as the year's gone on.
But last time we saw him with Stursday Night Football,
he wasn't great, yelled at some of his dudes. Defense
was was awful. Uh, He's taken a different than normal.
Aaron Rodgers tacked this week of being a fuse in
his praise of his time in Green Bay and saying
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he wants to retire at Green Bay Packer. What are
you That's that's not kind of classic a Rod if
you will, Why the why the turn?
Speaker 8 (41:45):
That's good? You know. I think I think Aaron understands
that this might be the last year, like this might
be the last one, and so let's not go out
as a bully. Let's go out as as a guy
that you know, appreciates what the Packers did and all
the opportunity you have there in the Super Bowl, she
kipping all those different things. And so I think it's
a mature Rogers to do that, to be able to
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walk and play in Lambeau and have that opportunity. But
I think that the when you well you're gonna be
at to actually the games at Pittsburgh excuse me, but
the chance to play and say that you want to
be a team that drafted you and end up in
their Ring of Honor in the Hall of Fame and
go in that way, I think it's great. And I
think it just speaks that he's I think he's maturing
it understanding again, he's building bridges as he sews up
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what I think is going to be his last season
in the NFL regardless, And I think it's a smart move.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
By him. What happened to their past rush and it
was non existent last week.
Speaker 8 (42:37):
Yeah, that was hard for me to understand because I
feel like that's been one of the keys to the
Pittsburgh Steelers all year long, has been able to get
to the quarterback, whether it's the two starters or its
Herbic and you know, usually they find a way, but
this this last week, they just couldn't have an answer
for Joe Flacco and certainly Jamar Chase. And so I
think that that's I think that will change. I don't
think that's the norm for the Pittsburgh Steelers at all.
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I think there'll be a much better team getting after
the quarterback this week than than they did before. But
I think the Steelers defense still should be especially the
front seven, the strength of that team, and I would expect,
you know that TJ. Watt will show up a lot
more in this game. And again Nick Herbig to me
and Alex high Smith. When you have those three going,
they should get home and I think they.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Will Giants to get another shot at the Eagles. And
the Giants, I mean, had a commanding lead and just
split up a game last week against Denver Broncos. But
you go back a couple weeks ago and on Thursday
Night Football they smashed the Philadelphi Eagles. How different will
this game be?
Speaker 8 (43:39):
Well, A good thing for the Eagles, I think, and
just for them to be able to walk in this
game is they have a lot more tape now. And
I think that's going to be the big thing with
Jackson Darts, like to be able to start to look
for tendancies and see how can you take advantage of
it or what do you expect from him instead of
kind of being one of the first season that gets
to like take him on full time. And I think
that's a big deal. So I mean that's where I
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think that Fangio the defensive coordinator there, with all of
his extremes, we'll try to take advantage of that. My
big thing for Jackson Dart is that he's got to
learn how to play for the next play. I don't
think you can play with his aggressiveness and stay healthy
for an entire season. So I hope I can watch
a guy that's willing to get down, maybe understands when
to slide a little bit sooner. But I don't feel
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as confident that this game is going to go the
same way. I have a lot more confidence than where
I think Philadelphia learned that game, instead of the confidence
of Giants start starting to play with with their young quarterback.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
It's going to be really interesting to see how that
evolves after people get that film on him and how
and who adjusts otherwise, what are that adjustment's like? Are you?
I'm I'm of the mindset to people who thought the
Brian Schottenheim or hire was a bad one, they're wrong.
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Now their defense isn't particularly good, okay, but they're three
and three. They trade away Micah Parsons. We knew their
defense was gonna be great that they had Michael Parsons.
Am I crazy saying? Jerry Mndy got this one right?
Speaker 8 (45:06):
Well, it feels from an offensive standpoint when you you
got a team here that's put forty points on the
board three times already to the season, and you know,
I think they'll have a lot of opportunities to do
that again. So from an offensive standpoint, you should be
very correct. I think you are correct. You know, It's
it's tough when you lose a game like to the Panthers, Uh,
you know the way they did, But you know that's
a big win against the Commanders. That's probably the one
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team that right now the season ended, isn't in the postseason.
You scratch your head in the NFC, go wait a second,
the Commanders aren't even in the postseason. And so I
got to give credit to Dallas that you know, yes,
they're at that five hundred records with the tie, and
we'll see how they play at Denver this week. You know,
it's going to be a great opportunity for them to
continue to you know, put victories on and for some reason,
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you know, the Dallas Cowboys, the Commander A, probably the
two teams the NFC that you know aren't officially in
the playoffs, but you feel like at least one of
them will. If you've already beat Washington once, you got
a chance to be that team if you can just
get you know, I think because of the bye or
the excuse me, the tie, I think if you get
the ten wins, I think the Dallas Cowboys are.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
In crazy to think considering what everybody thought would happen
first game of the year, Eagles, Cowboys thought it would
be a blowout. Thought the Cowboys be the laughing stock
of the league. They're not great, but they're definitely not
the laughing stock of the league. Mark, you're the best man.
Have a great weekend. Thanks so much for being our guest.
Speaker 8 (46:20):
Doug, thanks for me on
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(00:24):
a great day. It's a Friday. It's a football Friday.
It's a basketball Friday. NBA games litter throughout arenas. Obviously
a lot of the talk of the gambling scandal, which
is taken over sports talk. It is also a World
Series Friday. A World Series Friday. Check that one out. Huh.
(00:47):
It's pretty good, pretty good. Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, I'm
excited too. Hey, I'm I'm fired up too. I mean,
not as fired up as as Jace do is, maybe
not as fired up as others are, but I'm fired up.
We have a really good show. Obviously, got some picks
for you. The Sunday night game is going to be outstanding.
(01:11):
Aaron Rodgerson and I do I will share with you
some of the kind of sentiment in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Some things are kind of working out in Aaron's favor
that I I mean that are not his doing. And
you can hear by the things he Aaron is saying
that he's either reached a place of peace with the
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Green Bay Packers or he's trying this is a peace offering.
So we'll get you prepped for that. Aaron Glenn, we
still don't know about who his quarterback is. That actually
tells you who his quarterback is. If Aaron Glenn hasn't
told us whose quarterback is, we know whose quarterback is.
And we got the gambler for you. We got the
(01:54):
gambler for you. Let me start with the World Series
because there was some news that came out a couple
hours ago, which I think is one classic baseball and
two classic to these types of of phenomenal matchups. Right
the teams are separated by one game in terms of
what they did in the regular season. Right then, the
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Blue Jays win one game more than than the Dodgers.
That's why they have home field. So these are two
very close teams, and granted, regular season does not always
translate to postseason. Both are teams that have spent a
lot of money. The Dodgers more money. But you spend
five hundred million for Vlaguerer or Junior and we can't
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say you're one of the have nots and the haves
and have nots. This is a should be a phenomenal series, right.
The Dodgers are going to throw out a lefteed tonight,
who's pitched in a World series, pitched well, was unbelievable
in that World Series with the with the UH with Tampa,
and was great in the NLCS. And the one thing
(03:02):
that the Blue Jays do is they eat up left
hand pitching. And the one time we saw the Dodgers
bullpen have a chance to do something special, right, that's
when Blake Snell pitched the eight scoreless, basically twenty four up,
twenty four down. Going back to the NLCS, the bullpen
nearly spit up all over themselves. That's where this news
(03:25):
and maybe I need to ask Jay stew about it.
We'll get to him in a second. Alex Vacilla is
a left handed reliever. He's the guy. He sweats a lot.
He's Vessia, sorry, Alex Vesia is. He's a big sweater
like he's a guy that's up there as nervous as
you are watching. He looks to be more nervous when
he's uh uh when he's pitching. But he's been And again,
(03:49):
I'm not gonna sit here and challenge Jason Stewart. I'm
not gonna sit here and challenge Elias Sports Bureau. I
don't know everything about the Dodgers' bullpen and what's failed
them and why they did didn't go after some of
the big name guys that we thought were available at
the trade deadline, but I can tell you that it
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appears to me he's been maybe the guy you can
most count on so far. So we don't know why,
but we were told it's a deeply personal family matter
and that it was almost a condolence's type of statement
put out by the Dodgers. And it's not just that
he's going to miss the games in Toronto. They put
(04:32):
out their twenty six man roster and he's not on
the World Series roster, which means he can't pitch in
the World Series, which means whatever is holding him out.
It's not like he's going to take a couple of
days off, take a personal day and come back and pitch.
He's not pitching. And I think back to when the
Calves came back against the Golden State Warriors in the
(04:53):
NBA Finals. We were down three games to one. Everyone
still talks about Draymond Green getting suspen, but very few people,
if anybody outside of me, says, you know, Andrew Bogut
went down, didn't play in games five, six, and seven.
Andrew Bogan was the starter. He was a great screener,
great passer, rebounder. He fit the Warriors perfectly. That was
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a big part of what allowed Cleveland to come back
and win three consecutive games. Nobody actually believes that because
they talk about, well, the fact that Kevin Durant joined
that team they won seventy three games, they weren't the
same team, and Vesia is the perfect example of that.
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Yes they still have Mookie Betts, Yes they still have
Shoho Tani, Yes they still have Blakestown, They still have
you know, Will Smith behind the plate. They still have
what many people believe to be like an all star
team sort of lineup. But how many times have we
seen middle and late relief decide not just playoff games,
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but World series. It seems like every year and the
lefty that has given them the best work so far
in the postseason isn't going to pitch in the World Series.
And I'm not gonna say that's ominous or whatever, but
we if we look back at things that are just
bad luck, because you do need luck. I've never understood
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why people don't like to talk about luck. We always
wish people good luck before for little kids going to
a game, Hey good luck, you know, before the game,
when you shake hands in the captain's meetings, you always go, hey, man,
good luck. When you go out in the court, you'll
have fans wish you good luck. But then when you win,
no one ever goes, you know, we have some good
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luck there. They just rarely do that. In the bad
luck losing him, you know, and finding out and announcing it,
and I'm sure they didn't announce they knew before this,
but announcing it the day of first day of the
World Series, it's bad luck. But I do think that
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those are the type of things that can tip series
in another team's favor. And it has nothing to do
with the top end stars that are at the top
of the billing. He's not the closer he's not the starter.
He might not even be technically the setup man, like
trying to might be the setup man, but a lefty
out of the pen who's given you the best innings
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in the postseason. Not being on the roster and not
being hurt, just being a deeply personal matter. Again, I
don't know what it is. So it's not like I'm
sitting here accusing him of faking in or having something negative. No,
I'm sure it's on the up and up. But I'm
just saying that's the type of thing that can affect
a series, and we'll look back and nobody mentions it
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When you saw that and saw that news, as much
(08:09):
as you've been on the Dodgers about what they have
and more importantly to you, what they have not done
to their bullpen, how much does that affect your faith
in your Dodgers in the series.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I think it doesn't impact it. I don't think we're
gonna win the series. But I said, or does not? Hello?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
You say it does or does not?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It does impact the series? Yep?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Does? Okay, go ahead. I'm sorry you said that. The
fact that you already think they're going to lose the series.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Correct, but I don't think I think they'll lose it worse. Now.
I just read a piece on Alex a month ago.
This is I think he was like an eighteenth or
twentieth round pick who didn't, you know, make the roster,
and then he made the roster, and he's been on
the Dodgers the last five years. His career postseason numbers,
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and when you when you play for the Dodgers, you
pitch in the postseason a lot are phenomenal. He's got
like a one point eighty six ERA and twenty six appearances.
He's done good this postseason. You're right, he's like the
one guy down there that we could really depend on. Now,
the last two World Series that we've won, we've done
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it with our bullpen. So the difference this year is
that we have such limitations down there that his presence
is going to be more impactful than ever. So I
said before the postseason, the Dodgers need to kind of
reimagine how their bullpen goes because it was so dreadful
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during the season. They literally just need to scrap it
and build back up. They put Roki Sasaki as their closer.
That's been more hits than missus. They luckily haven't even
had to pitch Tanner Scott. He hasn't even been available.
He's awful, and for whatever reason, Blake Trinen has been effective.
But this is a big lot. Answer your question, short
(10:02):
answer a guest, This has a big impact.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
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Speaker 3 (10:17):
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Speaker 1 (10:24):
What up put your Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app Welcome in Hope. You're having a great day,
getting ready for a great weekend celebrated with some sports.
Fall is here mid October, Green Bay, Wisconsin. We're waiting
on one game for the Packers and then we're a
week in, three days away from a first game for
my Green Bay Phoenix. Welcome in Hope. The world is
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treating you. Okay, here on a Friday, got game one
of the World Series tonight. We got NBA games tonight.
College football. Kind of a slate of college football. Good
game its most notably SEC NFL. Same thing. There's like
one or two games. Not a great football weekend. Should
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be a good weekend for baseball. Good weekend for baseball.
I want to start with the game of the weekend
that everybody's gonna talk about is the Packers and taking
on Aaron Rodgers and the the Pittsburgh Steelers. First thing
is so so Dan. Let me get this straight. Neither
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of them are wearing their traditional uniforms in this game.
This in the traditional uniform world, this is as good
as it gets. Right. Steelers at home should be wearing
their blacks with their yellow pants, and the Packers should
be wearing their road whites also with their yellow pants.
That's not going to happen. I like what the Packers
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are doing, you know, wearing the those all whites are cool,
but I don't think this is the game aim to
do that.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
That feels like a Thursday night thing, not a Sunday
night thing. Sunday night Packers Steelers. Shouldn't they be wearing
their traditional uniforms.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Well, they both should be, but that's not how things
work in the NFL. I don't mind the Packers want
as much. Again, they just need a gold stripe on
the helmet. It's the medieval times thing that the Steelers
are that they're going to be wearing. That just bothers me.
The brown pants, whatever they've got, whatever pattern that is
on the front of their jersey, the shield, that's just
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I just I understand not forgetting the past, but this
just doesn't do anything for anybody except maybe sell a
few more jerseys for the NFL.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Is anybody gonna buy that thing?
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Oh yeah, there will be. I just don't know if
they'll make their money back on it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
It is uh yeah, it's ugly and it's it just
does nothing for the game, does nothing. There's just so
much about dress is what's appropriate, not about if you
actually dress. Well. It's one of the things I love
about Green Bay, Wisconsin is there's nothing, ever that's kind
of inappropriate in terms of dressing down right. You go
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to a bar and you know this, Dan, It's like
you're sitting next to the guy he's wearing jeans and boots,
and you're like, he could be a multi millionaire, or
he could have just got done working on my truck
in the shop. There's no no real difference there. So
how you dress and being underdressed like this is one
where it's pretty simple. It's pretty simple. Packers, Steelers, let's
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not screw it up. Where's something that resembles your traditional
uniforms because these are the ones in which those images
are going to go out for years and years and
years on. Remember when Aaron Rodgers, I mean, look, I
remember when the Packers took on the Vikings at home
and Brett Favre came in and won the game. The
Vikings were wearing their traditional uniforms. Why or as Boomer
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would say, despn what and then there's something else that
go ahead? I'm sorry I just said what what?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
What?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah? But Rogers is doing that kind of grandfather thing
right where you know, it's it's his kind of waning days,
and so he's talking nice when like, were you that nice?
A long time ago? Here's Aaron Rodgers talking about his
time in Green Bay and Green Bay is gonna have
a good team this year.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
If it was a game today, hips he is limited, okay,
all right today, and he is questionable.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
And I like the way those guys are trended.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
So are you able to tell us who's.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Gonna feel so good about my time? Man?
Speaker 8 (14:39):
Because them there Everything great in my life is because
of you know, my football career, and my football career starts,
and we'll.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
End one day with with Green Bay. So we got
a lot of love for all.
Speaker 8 (14:49):
Those memories and a lot of great friends that still
carry with me to this day.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
He says he it will end with Green Bay. Does
does that mean the Packers are going to do one
of those one day contract things? Right? Because there is
the world where're like, wait, is he gonna come back
to Green Bay as a backup quarterback to Jordan Love.
I'm gonna tell you what. The best thing that happened
to Aaron Rodgers is Jordan Love's good. But he's in
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comparison to Aaron Rodgers. Just okay, that's that's the reality
of it. Living in this town. It's it was. It
was kind of a marriage that had to end at
some point, him getting hurt and not having you know,
greatness and not rubbing it in the face of the Packers,
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I think helped. I think there's a younger generation of
people that they grew up with Aaron Rodgers, love Aaron Rodgers,
and they they're never gonna see the bad side. And
then I think what adds to that is Jordan Love's
not been bad, but he hasn't been great, and that
helps build up Aaron Rodgers legacy. And then I think
the last part is Aaron Rodgers is pretty good to
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Jordan Love, whereas far was not great to Aaron Rodgers
for a long time. And I think they're seeing different
very differently. Despite the fact there are two Hall of
Fame quarterbacks that each won a Super Bowl, that each
left Green Bay and both situations in which they left
both left for the Jets, and they were both kind
of weird now they left. Rogers is still more beloved,
I think than Farvies. Now. As a native Wisconsinite, how
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do you view Aaron Rodgers today, especially now when he's
saying only nice things about Green Bay?
Speaker 5 (16:30):
I think in time that he'll be welcome back, just
like Brett Favre was welcome back. And I think that
day will come for Aaron Rodgers. The unfortunate thing about
this matchup is that it's in Pittsburgh, and so we
can try to play up this. Rogers faces his former team,
faces his former head coach. I think that there's something there,
but again, it's Rogers played mostly with Mike McCarthy, so
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there's that aspect of it. It would be completely different
if this game was in Green Bay, and I'd be
curious to see the reception that Rogers got. I think
that Farv was loved more than Rogers was, but when
Farv did leave for Minnesota, that was something that certain
Packer fans couldn't get over at that time. Rogers playing
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for the Jets and then the Steelers doesn't interfere with
the Packers world in a way, but going to the
hated rival of Minnesota, when many Packer fans stuck with
stuck with Farv when he went to the Jets. I
know I've told this story before on this show, but
the CBS affiliate in Milwaukee requested that they air they
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get the Jets games to air in their market because
they had the AFC package. It was before Fox and
CBS could exchange AFC and NFC games. When CBS was
basically the home of the AFC. The market in Milwaukee
asked to carry jets when Farv was in New York
because there was a contingent of fans that wanted to
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watch Farv. I don't think that happened with Aaron Rodgers.
So and also because this is happening again, that there's
another quarterback. So while Farv like burned Bridges by going
to Minnesota, I don't think that he was as loved
as Farv is. But I do think there will be
a day where Aaron Rodgers will get his day in
the sun in Green Bay again.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
You know, there is another side to it being in Pittsburgh.
It does feel very un Pittsburgh like though, to have
Aaron Rodgers be their quarterback. And look, I can't tell
you that I've studied Pittsburgh's teeler history or Pittsburgh's teeler lore. Right,
it's really interesting on how nobody mentions the Bubby Bridsters
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of the world, the Cordell Stewart. So this role whin
slash was their guy. They went to Tommy Maddox and
tried to spread it out and ran Tommy Gunn the
offense whatever. But the Steelers. For the Steelers to take
on somebody else's legend is it's just not Steeler like.
And I know they did it last year with Russell
Wilson as well. This is a very different way for
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the Steelers to do business. Their two Super Bowl winning
quarterbacks were drafted by the Steelers and played for the Steelers.
Roethlisberger never played for anybody else, So it does it
feels like a brave new world for the Steelers, whereas
the Packers have actually been through this before. And then
I also think, and you brought up the time, will
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it's the old time? Will heal all old wounds? This
is a lot like a divorce right where they're each
dating somebody else now and the Packers like, yeah, we're good.
We have Jordan Love. We love Jordan Love. Right, their
relationship was sort of complicated when they got them and
now it's kind of worked out. But I'm sure there's
anybody who watches, and I know this from so many
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everybody here's a Packer fan. Is the Hey, I love
Jordan Love the person like he's easy, he's not. There's
not as much Aaron can be hard, but he's not
as good as Aaron Rodgers and or nor has he
been even close to Aaron Rodgers when Aaron was twenty seven,
like not close? And then you know, and then I
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think Packers fans who would be jealous or sit there
and go like, hey, look at who Aaron Rodgers dated
for two years, dated the Jets for two years. Now
with the Steelers, it's like it feels like the Packers
dated somebody half their half the age of their last spouse,
and Aaron Rodgers went with somebody his own age, doesn't
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it like the Steelers are kind of traditional and you
know they're they're I think they're playing up his experience,
They're using it, they're leaning on it. It does feel
like he's dated somebody sort of his own age after
trying to date somebody wild post divorce, and the Green
Bay pack have have taken on somebody young, stable and
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kind of trying to mold them into the in the
significant other that they want Jordan Love to be. That's,
by the way, my most Colherdian uh parallel that I
could I could find.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
I'll tell you talk you talk about dating Doug. It
is interesting because when you compare farv Love by Wisconsin
people during his time there and Rogers love. You know,
fav and his wife Deanna were very visible, and Deanna's
battle through cancer made far you know, even more relatable,
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and so she was a part of the fabric of
the community. What's interesting is Rogers had celebrity relationships in
the smallest market that there is. But when even when
when Rogers was leaving Green Bay, you would hear conversations
of places that Rogers would go, Rogers would eat, and
no one had a bad thing to say about them.
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So those direct one on one conversations or the places
that he would go locally, there was nothing negative ever
said about Aaron Rodgers. But it's funny on just on
how how their lives were viewed, because I think Brett
Favre Rogers California kid, right, kid from cal West Coast
comes to Green Bay. Farv's the old Mississippi bumpkin, you know,
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coming up north. Loves to hunt and fish and do
that stuff which a lot of people like to do
in that area, you know, a little bit more relatable.
I don't know, they love them just the same, but
they the Packer fans loved them both for a variety
of different reasons, and the different reasons that they had
were interesting when you compare one to the other.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
As well. Some of the Aaron Rodgers recent stuff wears
you out. You're rooting for Rogers. You're rooting for the
Packers in a game in which you have no you
have no real rooting interest.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Who am I rooting for Steelers helps the sea bos?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Okay, Yeah, that's an out of the way that I
never even thought of. That angle to it, Jay, Dude,
is this you love? You love stories like this more
than the actual games itself. Right, That's like one of
the things you love. We love our jobs. You love storylines.
What's the better story Packers housing the Steelers, Steelers being
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the Packers.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Let's be clear, I love my job. I don't want
Shapiro to think I don't love my job. I do.
I really love storylines, and I like Aaron Rodgers. I've
always said this. In ten fifteen years, I think we're
going to look back on Aaron Rodgers, especially how things
are playing out with everything that's come out about COVID
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and everything else. We're going to look back and be
like we were damn foolish for not taking advantage of
a quarterback playing at this highest level being the best
and the most popular sport in the co tree who
would speak his mind, wouldn't speak in cliches, would speak
his mind and say interesting things. You might not agree
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with everything, but he says thought provoking things. So every
time he takes the field, I root for him to win,
and I root for him to win the Super Bowl.
If the Chargers aren't in the Super Bowl, I want
I want Aaron Rodgers to uh.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I'm rooting for the Steelers. I'll tell you why in
a second. The only thing I will push back on
Jase too is the lying about the when he said
he was They say he was inoculated with the immunized. Immunized.
That killed everything that you said, because his whole thing
was he wanted to speak the truth, and then in
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his moment where he could have stood up and said no,
I got a different treatment, I chose not to, he
lied about it, and then since then he's been digging out.
I actually agree with you on all the other stuff he's.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
I think he's been in the forefronts of of everything.
I don't think gonna miss anything. I don't think I
think we've almost overcovered Aaron Rodgers at times.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I just think in regards to what Jason said, which
is a quarterback who's an MVP of the league that's
willing to actually speak their mind in this world of
the cliches. Jason has told everybody on air off air
that on his tombstone, he wants he searched for the
opposite of whatever BS is and that's why he likes
Aaron Rodgers. Right. My point is that sounds great that
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he's the one guy that's not full of it, except
for in the one time when he had a chance
to stand up for something that he purports to believe in,
he did not stand up for the thing he poor
ports to believe in. Instead, he was full of it.
There's the rub. I still want to Aaron Rodgers to win.
I just want to ar Rodgers to win because anybody
who's ever left somewhere wants to beat the place they left,
even if the other place didn't do them wrong. Right,
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Like I got in trouble at Notre Dame. I almost
went to Marquette just because they played Notre Dame every year.
Why Because I'm just a compet jerked that way, and
I want to beat the team that I had to leave,
right Like when you're when you leave ESPN to being
there for a decade like I want to. I like
mopping the floor with them and the downfall of their
radio network and the rise of ours. Great. They did
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nothing wrong. They offered me a five year contract. I
walked away. It's fine, good people. There doesn't change for
Aaron Rodgers. I don't think he was in the right.
I don't think he was crazily in the wrong. Think
he overreacted to them drafting a quarterback. But whatever, just
the way my mentality works, Like yeah, I'd kind of
like him. Stick it to the man if you will,
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even if all told like the Packers win. Think the
Packers could be a super Bowl team. At least they
look like it early in the season.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
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It's the Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. So Aaron
Glenn continues to dominate the New York headlines, and it's
it's about his handling of what seems to be kind
of reasonable questions. He has it named a starting quarterback
for this weekend's game. The Jets are winless. Their owner
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Woody Johnson came out and said he completely supports the coach.
If they just had a quarterback, they could just complete
a pass. That's what he actually said. Here's the Jets
head coach Aaron Glenn this morning with the reporters when
he was asked about who will be his starting quarterback
this week?
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Did it was a game today?
Speaker 6 (27:38):
He is limited all right today? And he is questionable.
And I like the way those guys are trended.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
So are you able to tell us who?
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I cannot tell you that.
Speaker 9 (27:48):
But is it because you don't want That's exactly its
situational question.
Speaker 7 (27:53):
Isn't that potentially.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
That's exactly why I'm not telling you because.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
I don't want to understand that.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
But I mean, is it partly because of the injuries?
Speaker 6 (28:03):
Exactly why I'm saying it because I don't want to.
I don't know how many time I got to answer
you that it's not going to change yours.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
Who quart is?
Speaker 4 (28:13):
That's gonna be between man and players.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I don't understand this, this tactic. I do understand the
not sharing personal information or in house information with the team,
I mean with with reporters like you. Don't have to.
His health, We don't have to, but just the defiance
of I don't want to, so I'm not going to.
Just so we're aware, there is a moment in which
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he has to name a starter, and he will name
a starter. It won't be a game time decision because
it's not really the way it's supposed to work. And
at some point he's going to get fined by the
NFL because the gamblers, the fantasy football players need to
know who's starting. It should matter nobody has if you have.
If you have either of those two in your fantasy
football team, your fantasy football team is not doing well.
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But it can't affect the betting lines over unders and
of course a lot of other prop bets. Let's just
cut to brass tacks. If if Justin Fields was their starter,
and there was no question, he would answer it as such.
It's no different than if you've been dating a woman
(29:24):
for like a year and you're an adult and somebody goes, hey,
she the one, You're like, yeah, maybe, then she's not right,
Then she's not. If she's the one, you're like, yeah, like,
well are you guys gonna remember? Well, you know, she's
still she's you know, she's getting a master's or she's
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she's got her kids and we want to wait said
timing's not right whatever, but yeah, I mean what yeah, well,
I mean we've been dating a year now, like we
kind of you either know you don't know. And right
now everyone knows that the Jets are going to be
in the quarterback market next year in the offseason, just
like hey, who said that? Oh that was this guy,
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That was this guy. It's two years in a row
where I could tell you that Russell Wilson Justin Fields
would not be the starting quarterback at their respective teams
at the end of the season, and those respective teams
would be looking for another quarterback at latest at the
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a guy who wasn't even in the conversation. Right with
the Chargers start of the year three twenty three rushes
one hundred and seventeen yards and Lad McConkey h six catches,
ten targets. It seemed like he was there. It seemed
like he was there. Cooper Rush, That's what we seemed like,
like just always open, always open, Cooper Cup. Did I
(31:34):
think the the rushes and the flags and the cups,
I'm getting my Cooper's, I'm getting my Cooper's confused by
er you are a uniform police. There was one notable
change to the charger, the charger navies and I did
like those evers in the charger Navy uniforms. Did you
like the number on the helmet.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Yeah, I just thought that the outline on that helmet
without having the numbers outlined, would have looked a lot better.
It's not as noticeable on the white helmet that the
numbers aren't outlined, but it did. I did notice it
on the Navy So the lightning bolt has an outline
to it, but the numbers didn't. And that's what messed
(32:16):
with me a little bit.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Portraity. Mark Dominic
joins us as he joins us every week here on
the show. Here's a guy spent his entire professional career
from scouting working his way up to the front office
as general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And look,
I know that the kid is hurt, but I think
generally most people have been underwhelmed by JJ McCarthy. And
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then you know, Carson Wentz is a backup, and now's
the back for a reason playing hurt last night. But
I can't help but think Minnesota, they chose poorly. Right,
you had Sam Donald, you had even before you had
Sam Donald, Right, you had h Why am I Why
am I blaying? Oh? Kirk Cousins, Kirk Cousins and now
(33:01):
you have JJ McCarthy who can't stay healthy and isn't great.
Did they hurt themselves trying to go to the rookie
quarterback or the second year quarterback in his rookie year.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
Well, I mean, obviously everything's unfortunate. I don't feel quite
as distraught over JJ McCarthy yet. I know the numbers
aren't great, and I know it's really been the one
quarter that's kind of caught people's attention. But I do
think of a guy that's only thrown just over forty
passes in the NFL in his career, there's a lot
of room for development still, and so you know, I
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still hold out the hope or the belief that I
think JJ can be a good and starting quarterback in
the Nation Foot League and that the Vikings will will
be on the right side of history on this. I'm
going to stay on that right now, at least, Doug.
But I I, you know, it's it's amazing because the
other guy that you said, Carson Wentz, used to, you know,
be mister popular too, and it's just never quite found
that right home for him either. And you look at
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this Minnesota team and although they're you know, three and four,
or it'll be interesting to get JJ back next week
and see what they can do going forward, just because
I think when you look at them as a as
a team, and you certainly you think about the hopes
of the playoffs and what they had last year. They've
got a couple of games coming up here in Detroit
and Baltimore the next two weeks that are really going
to tell us a lot about JJ, but also tell
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us for the season is going to end up.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
I want to play for you something. This is earlier today,
So Aaron Glenn has been doing this thing about not
naming a starter Scott Tad Taylor, who's come back from injury.
Scott justin fields where I don't know if you heard
the sound Woody Johnson said if we could just complete
a pass right like wow, you know that's not what
you want to say about a quarterback you gave two
(34:40):
years guaranteed to. But take a listen to Aaron Glenn
earlier today. I want to get your thoughts on this.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
If it was a.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Game today, he is limited all right today, and he
is questionable and I like the way those guys are trended.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
So are you able to tell us who's gonna I
cannot tell you that.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
But is it because you don't watch?
Speaker 9 (35:00):
Because that's exactly its situation questions that answer this.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Potentially, that's exactly why I'm not telling you because I.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Don't want to.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
But I understand that. But I mean it, is it
partly because the injuries?
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Exactly why I'm saying it because I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
I don't know how many times I got to answer
you that it's not going to change. You do quer
that's going to be between man players.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I mean, I get that he has his owner's support
as of now. I don't understand the why to be
that way towards the New York media, of all media,
is that you don't want to antagonize for no apparent
reason when you haven't won a game. The New York
media would be one of them. What are your thoughts though,
as a former general manager when you hear that back
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and forth?
Speaker 8 (35:49):
Well, I mean, I do I understand where the coach
is coming from and banged up or not? You know,
trying to figure out exactly what the answer is. I don't.
I don't blame the coach. I don't have as big
a problem with this. I do unders Daniel oh and seven.
And the truth is nothing looks really great. I mean,
the Buys going to make the season seem even longer
after they play the Bengals this week. And so I
think the most important thing, like you said, is and
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I think what he will stay with Aaron Glenn as
the head coach, don't I don't think Aaron Glenn. I
wouldn't move on from him this quickly, even if a
one and done. And we've sadly seen that too many
times in the National Football League. If I'm going to
give Aaron Glenn any you know, punishment, it's for Justin Fields, Doug.
You and I talked about it many times. And you know,
if you're surprised that Justin Fields isn't a great starter,
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it's been shame on you. I mean that's I mean,
he's he's had opportunities, he's flashed in moments, but he's
never shown consistency to expect him to suddenly like now
I'm going to be good. And in the addition, when
you look at the Jets and the revolving door on
the offensive line, some of that's you know, Justin Fields
in terms of the way he plays, but some of
it's you know, Tyro Daylor has been sacked almost ten
times in less than seventy attempts, So that offensive line
(36:58):
is a disaster. It's just anothery've's got some resources dedicated
to it. I think some of those guys are coming around,
but it's just bad. And I know that you're throwing
a little more gas in on the fire. But I
think Aaron's probably behind the scenes gaining some traction with
the team that he thinks will be there long term.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Mark Dominic our guests here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. I want to get to Aaron
Rodgers because he's taken on his former team and that's
gonna be a story that dominates the weekend. But I
want to ask you about Jordan Love before that, the
up and down in terms of the perception of Jordan
Love right where you go back a couple of years
(37:35):
ago and you know it wasn't gonna be the fifth
year option, it was going to be a little money.
Then he comes back, plays well, they give him a
gigantic extension. He's been good. But I guess my question
to you is, as a guy who's evaluated that position
for a living for twenty five years, is he like
(37:58):
now we have enough to go on. What do you
think of Jordan Love and how good he actually is.
Speaker 8 (38:03):
Yeah, I've been I've been on the board with Jordan
Love for a while and as we've kind of talked
to Jordan, uh, you know, I've been a buyer and
a believer and I still am. I just I like
the way he plays the game. I like his his
decision making. He's clearly playing well now. And to think
of all that with a Matthew Golden that's really not
(38:24):
producing at all in their assistant right, He's he's barely
he's third or fourth on the team and receptions and
Dobbs is the one that really kind of stepped up
a little bit. I just I think the offensive line
is very good there. That's a big key to its
same thing I've talked about the Colton while the culture
being successful, the offensive line. But Jordan Love as a
quarterback and competitor I'm a fan of and I know
(38:45):
that he's had a little bit of a roller coaster,
but I've stayed on the track with this one. I
just felt like once he's shown me that he can,
you know, dial in which he has been able to
do and make plays all of the field with his
arm talent, let alone just being a solid scrambler and
runner with the football. I don't see the downside in
Jordan Love. I think he's good enough to win you
a Super Bowl. I think he's that good of a quarterback.
(39:05):
And I think the surrounding cast has stepped up a
little bit in Tucker Craft. You know, I thought that
maybe Luke Musgrave would have a bigger role, but in
the running game he is. And that's why they're having
such success, you know, in the red zone and kind
of the ball in with Jacobs.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
The Colts have the Titans this week, which you got
to feel pretty good about, right then they got the
Steelers on the road, but the Steels will be coming
off what a game they're going all in on. Then
the Falcons at home, then a bye week. They're at
six and one. I watched him against the Chargers, and
I now, I thought they were pretty good. I thought
they were really well coached, especially obviously offensively. But I mean, like, look,
(39:43):
I look at those wins that they have this year,
and with the exception of the Chargers, which is a
big win, Cardinals, Eh, Raiders not particularly good, Titans fired
their coach, Broncos pretty good, but it was early is
one point. And the Dolphins, who stink right, stink? So
how colt in your mind?
Speaker 8 (40:01):
Yeah, I think they're good, but I think it's one
of those ones where they might end up with a
two seed or a three seed. You know, when you
look at their schedule, They've got Jacksonville still. Twice you
talked about the Titans Atlanta, the Texans that have to
find their way. They don't see the Texans yet, so
there's more wins in here. But I think it's going
to be a two or three seed in the AFC,
(40:24):
and I think they'll be one and done. I think
they're a good football team. I think you bring up
a great point, and I think that's real is that
you know, we'll see as they play the Kansas City Chiefs,
when they play the San Francisco forty nine ers how
good they are. But they're really not going to be
heavily tested until they get to the postseason, and then
it's just a matter of, you know, where's their health
and everything, and how's Jonathan Taylor doing. But I think
(40:44):
they're a good football team. I think they're deserving to
be in first place. When you put you know, almost
forty points or thirty five points a game on the board,
you deserve to be where you are in terms of
the standings. But you know, I think every Colts fan
would say, hey, look, this is much that I anticipated,
but will also have holding their breath in the postseason
and going which team will show up? Is it going
to be the one that's you know, played well all
season long but has beaten to your point to the
(41:05):
Tennessee Titans, or is it the one that showed up
and beat the Denver Broncos. We too, I'm leaning towards
you know, they're going to make the postseason, but I
don't see a run here.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Aaron Rodgers is going to take it on his former team.
He's looked more and more comfortable as the year's gone on.
But last time we saw him with Stursday Night Football,
he wasn't great, yelled at some of his dudes. Defense
was was awful. Uh, He's taken a different than normal.
Aaron Rodgers tacked this week of being a fuse in
his praise of his time in Green Bay and saying
(41:37):
he wants to retire at Green Bay Packer. What are
you That's that's not kind of classic a Rod if
you will, Why the why the turn?
Speaker 8 (41:45):
That's good? You know. I think I think Aaron understands
that this might be the last year, like this might
be the last one, and so let's not go out
as a bully. Let's go out as as a guy
that you know, appreciates what the Packers did and all
the opportunity you have there in the Super Bowl, she
kipping all those different things. And so I think it's
a mature Rogers to do that, to be able to
(42:05):
walk and play in Lambeau and have that opportunity. But
I think that the when you well you're gonna be
at to actually the games at Pittsburgh excuse me, but
the chance to play and say that you want to
be a team that drafted you and end up in
their Ring of Honor in the Hall of Fame and
go in that way, I think it's great. And I
think it just speaks that he's I think he's maturing
it understanding again, he's building bridges as he sews up
(42:29):
what I think is going to be his last season
in the NFL regardless, And I think it's a smart move.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
By him. What happened to their past rush and it
was non existent last week.
Speaker 8 (42:37):
Yeah, that was hard for me to understand because I
feel like that's been one of the keys to the
Pittsburgh Steelers all year long, has been able to get
to the quarterback, whether it's the two starters or its
Herbic and you know, usually they find a way, but
this this last week, they just couldn't have an answer
for Joe Flacco and certainly Jamar Chase. And so I
think that that's I think that will change. I don't
think that's the norm for the Pittsburgh Steelers at all.
(42:59):
I think there'll be a much better team getting after
the quarterback this week than than they did before. But
I think the Steelers defense still should be especially the
front seven, the strength of that team, and I would expect,
you know that TJ. Watt will show up a lot
more in this game. And again Nick Herbig to me
and Alex high Smith. When you have those three going,
they should get home and I think they.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Will Giants to get another shot at the Eagles. And
the Giants, I mean, had a commanding lead and just
split up a game last week against Denver Broncos. But
you go back a couple weeks ago and on Thursday
Night Football they smashed the Philadelphi Eagles. How different will
this game be?
Speaker 8 (43:39):
Well, A good thing for the Eagles, I think, and
just for them to be able to walk in this
game is they have a lot more tape now. And
I think that's going to be the big thing with
Jackson Darts, like to be able to start to look
for tendancies and see how can you take advantage of
it or what do you expect from him instead of
kind of being one of the first season that gets
to like take him on full time. And I think
that's a big deal. So I mean that's where I
(43:59):
think that Fangio the defensive coordinator there, with all of
his extremes, we'll try to take advantage of that. My
big thing for Jackson Dart is that he's got to
learn how to play for the next play. I don't
think you can play with his aggressiveness and stay healthy
for an entire season. So I hope I can watch
a guy that's willing to get down, maybe understands when
to slide a little bit sooner. But I don't feel
(44:21):
as confident that this game is going to go the
same way. I have a lot more confidence than where
I think Philadelphia learned that game, instead of the confidence
of Giants start starting to play with with their young quarterback.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
It's going to be really interesting to see how that
evolves after people get that film on him and how
and who adjusts otherwise, what are that adjustment's like? Are you?
I'm I'm of the mindset to people who thought the
Brian Schottenheim or hire was a bad one, they're wrong.
(44:54):
Now their defense isn't particularly good, okay, but they're three
and three. They trade away Micah Parsons. We knew their
defense was gonna be great that they had Michael Parsons.
Am I crazy saying? Jerry Mndy got this one right?
Speaker 8 (45:06):
Well, it feels from an offensive standpoint when you you
got a team here that's put forty points on the
board three times already to the season, and you know,
I think they'll have a lot of opportunities to do
that again. So from an offensive standpoint, you should be
very correct. I think you are correct. You know, It's
it's tough when you lose a game like to the Panthers, Uh,
you know the way they did, But you know that's
a big win against the Commanders. That's probably the one
(45:28):
team that right now the season ended, isn't in the postseason.
You scratch your head in the NFC, go wait a second,
the Commanders aren't even in the postseason. And so I
got to give credit to Dallas that you know, yes,
they're at that five hundred records with the tie, and
we'll see how they play at Denver this week. You know,
it's going to be a great opportunity for them to
continue to you know, put victories on and for some reason,
(45:48):
you know, the Dallas Cowboys, the Commander A, probably the
two teams the NFC that you know aren't officially in
the playoffs, but you feel like at least one of
them will. If you've already beat Washington once, you got
a chance to be that team if you can just
get you know, I think because of the bye or
the excuse me, the tie, I think if you get
the ten wins, I think the Dallas Cowboys are.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
In crazy to think considering what everybody thought would happen
first game of the year, Eagles, Cowboys thought it would
be a blowout. Thought the Cowboys be the laughing stock
of the league. They're not great, but they're definitely not
the laughing stock of the league. Mark, you're the best man.
Have a great weekend. Thanks so much for being our guest.
Speaker 8 (46:20):
Doug, thanks for me on
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