October 27, 2025 • 51 mins
On a Monday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug talks about Brian Kelly as LSU has decided to fire him as their head football coach midway through the season.
In this week's edition of Love AND Hate, Doug and the crew share what they loved and hated most from the sports weekend.
Doug welcomes former Chargers and Raiders GM Tom Telesco onto the show to talk about the Ravens, Packers and all of the headlines around the NFL.
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get to. The Packers come from behind and end up
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and Raiders, will join us this hour. You'll hear what
we loved, what we hated from this weekend in sports,
and it was a full sports weekend. Wait to you
what Jerry Jones said about his defense tonight. I actually
agree with him. By agree with him, got a lot
to get to. World Series Game three will be on
a way tonight. Dodgers took Game two after getting stomped
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in game one that wasn't a Friday night, so we'll see.
Obviously this is this, this becomes the swing game. You know,
we get some NFL talk about, we get some college
football talk about. Plus, this is the sports Equinox. Is
that right, Jase? Two Sports Equinox.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Thirty second of all time, thirty second sports Equinox of
all time.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And the basics of the sports Equinox are of all
of the major all the professional sports are playing all
at once, right, That that's what it is. And Jason's problem,
and I agree with him, is are we really considering soccer?
But yeah, soccer, hockey, NBA, NFL. Is there college football tonight?
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I don't know. Is there a college football to night?
Probably is. There's college foball like every night. But I
guess we're only considering professional.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Only professional sports. I'm willing to barely let hockey in.
I think in the nineties it was made a Major
four and barely anybody watches that sport. But soccer, that's
a reach. It's almost like when they're listing the five
things in the Sports Equinox and they get to the
MLS game. It's almost like when people say after a
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couple people die that are famous. You know, they always
go in threes, and then there's always a The third
one is always a stretch. Yes, you have two like
a listers and then a guy that worked, you know,
on a movie at some point.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So you're thinking soccer as a stretch. I would agree
with you. Aki is kind of a stretch. But it
does make sense because it's been around long enough, it's secure,
it's cure enough in itself. So we'll get to the sports.
Equinox doesn't actually matter. Are you equinox or equinox guy?
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So I think, guys, we start with I mean, personally,
I think we start with Brian Kelly losing his job.
And I understand Brian Kelly has there's some things in
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his career which everybody makes fun of, or if you
just don't like him. Right when he was first in
Notre Dame, you would scream at mostly his quarterback and
he would turn purple in the face, hard image to
get out of your head. Of course, you had the
Scissor incident, which is an absolute tragedy at Notre Dame,
and social media likes to have fun at Brian Kelly's expense.
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But Brian Kelly gets fired, and I just there just
isn't any way in which there's realistic expectations. That just isn't.
This is not the I mean again, you can listen
to it as the coach telling you this. But LSU
lost to really good teams. That league has really good teams,
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and LSU chose to do it through the portal, and
on paper, they should be better than other people because
of what they've done in the portal. But the problem
is that the portal does isn't always. It isn't always
the way to win. It's really hard to put a
team together to make them care, and so the win
over Clemson doesn't look as good as it should. The
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win over Florida, Florida's fired their coach. The three losses
all the good teams in the sec OLE Miss on
the Road, Vanderbilt on the road, A and M at
home Stompson and they end up firing him. I think
what's amazing about LSU football is this is much more
in line with LSU football historically. That's just the reality.
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I mean, the guy who changed it was really Saban
And then after Saban, Less Miles had a a bunch
of you know, had consecutive ten win seasons. But they're
five and three right now. Even if Brian Kelly was
to lose to Alabama, they were on track for another
nine and four year And I just I don't think
that's terrible. And it's like, look, dude, they've won ten, ten, nine,
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probably nine now and that's the expectation. That's where they fall.
And the only times that they've had these spectacular years,
right I mean, you had the Joe Burrow year. That's
the most talented team maybe in the history of college
football if you look at what they had during edwar
Zron's fifteen o season in twenty nineteen. Outside of that,
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edwar Juan won nine ten, and then of course you
had the Covid years and the ugly years at the
end where he won five and six. You know, Les
Miles had the one year where he went thirteen and one,
and he had a couple coming off of Nick Saban
he had three consecutive eleven plus win seasons, but he
had eight, he had a five, he had an eight
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and nine. Then finally they fired him in an eight
win year. This is actually and it's more competitive now
that's ever been. LSU is finding out that however, you
want a word, what they used to do and the
extra benefits they used to provide. It was generally seen
as a cheaters school. Now you're in the SEC where
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everyone can buy players. It's I mean this, Oklahoma, I
said this when they joined the SEC. A program that's
used to ten and eleven win seasons is going to
have to get used to four in five loss seasons.
That's going to be the norm, not the exception. It's
really that difficult. Alabama, same thing like Alabama's. They are
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winning games and I was the guy who defended klen
Borrer to start the year when they lost to Florida
State and they've won every game since. But the fact
is that Alabama is a player two away from having
three losses instead of number four right in the face.
It's really what it's like in this league. It's a
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super league and you have to adjust otherwise. And the
crazy part about it is that Brian Kelly has gone
from a guy that seemed unlikable, seemed unrelatable, to boy enviable.
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I guarantee if I ask Jay Stu, if I ask
Dan Bayer, if I ask Sam, No matter how much
we love what we do, if I said you can't
do that anymore at the place in which you work
or wherever, you just can't do it anymore. But I'm
gonna give you fifty four million dollars to not do
it anymore, you'd be like, okay, But we've reached this
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point of ridiculousness in college football. It started this year
when you fired two coaches three games in the season,
and now you're firing just anybody who doesn't win an
SEC championship, and the expectations are as such. And the
crazy part about it is you can continue to fire
coaches whenever you want. You can't really fire players when
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you want. But it's also fair to say that Brian
Kelly to LSU was a weird fit. And then you
have people go, well, he's not recruiting anymore, he's not
recruiting the same level. Yes they are, heart they recruit
out of the portal. They don't do the high school recruiting,
and it's just hard to build a team out of
the portal. But what I think got LSU, what got
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Brian Kelly is the depth of that league. Is that
the last two years the league has been okay, and
by SEC standards, it's been a little bit down. And
now with the new ruling, they've gone just all in
money wise, and there is way more talent and way
more parody. And he's lost to three really good teams.
It's hard for people to adjust to the fact that
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Vanderbilt is good, but Vanderbilt is actually legitimate and good.
That's because Vanderbilt no longer has the academic limitations that
used to have, and now you know that it's not
cheating for them to buy players, whereas previously Vanderbilt was
you had the reputation of they didn't do anything extra.
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I think that's what people are struggling to adjust to.
The adjustment in where Vanderbilt sits in the grand scheme
of things, and the fact that everybody's got players, and
if you put yourself ahead based upon the fact that
you were buying players previously, you're not anything special now
unless you just have more money than everybody else.
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to you. Hope you had a spectacular weekend. It was
my last weekend. Really, there's lots of exhibition games for basketball.
We didn't have one, so last weekend before we get
ready for it. Right, We got an exhibition games Thursday
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against our crosstown friend sort of rivals, Saint Norbert, and
then a week from tonight we opened at fall Gallenfield House.
As I described to our donors, that's the Lambeau of
college basketball, right is that? Okay? That is that an
easy way to describe it? There? Dan Buyer a Lambeau
of college basketball.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Yes, and no, because Lambo doesn't necessarily have the history
that you would think it would like if we compare
it to a Fenway Park going to Wrigley Field. I mean,
Lambeau has been around since the what late fifties I
believe is when they left City Stadium, so not as
not as historic. But yes, I would say in the
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in the words of a of a destination, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I mean again, you're it's it's one of those things
where you're like me, we know too much and so
we get caught up in the we get caught up
in it. But there is a you know, it's like
Vince Lombardi coach there, March Star quarterback there. I agree,
it doesn't go back one hundred years. You don't have
the inventor of football, right, you don't have uh, you
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don't have the inventor of football there where Whereas James
Naismith was the coach and the only unsuccessful coach in
the history of Kansas basketball. So he was a professor there,
coach there. The rules are there, but it does feel
it's just different than the rest of the venues. And
the part that I compare it to and I know that.
And here's where it's it's actually different, right, is Lambeau.
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They kind of built this whole shell around the old
steel girders, and the lower bowl is still the same.
Everything else has really been changed and modernized for the
most part. Sure, right. I think that's one of the
beauties to fog Allen is they haven't gone in and
done anything because they'd have to get it up to code,
and so it is still bleachers most of it.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Well, I'll tell you a field jokes on me because
fogg Allen Field I was open in nineteen fifty five,
so older. I didn't too.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, I thought I was older than it.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, So so my bad on that my apology.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So it was closer, closer.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
We thought it was very close. Yes, yes I didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I didn't go unnoticed. I got a tweezer from Corvette Guy.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Corvette Guy, Corvette Guy catches everything.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Oh Man, Doug was lined up only off by a
few years. Yeah, fall allon, and I immediately I thought.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It was I thought it was older too to begin with.
I thought I was older to be terrible.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I do think that, like Lambeau is the must see destination,
but it I think like it gets put in there
as they said, like I mentioned with the Fenway Parks
and the in the in the Wrigley Fields, thinking that
the Packers were playing in that stadium like the Bears played,
you know, Wrigley Field whenever. But that's yeah, so I
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was wrong. I will take the.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
L There you go, all right, nowhere else for you today.
Let's get to love and hate.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
What did you love?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
God?
Speaker 6 (13:30):
I love you?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Meet these player hays.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Ah love love love, love, love, love hate hate hate
hate hate? What'd your love from the weekend? What'd you
hate from the weekend? We get to share it all,
don't we. I'm gonna just share my love really really quickly,
and I have maybe another one if we have time
to circle back to because I know these guys super
prep for it. There is nothing at all like watching
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I had the rare treat Dan Byer. You'll, I think
you can appreciate this, probably even more so than the
other guys. I had two wins in my back pocket,
Chargers one on a Thursday night and my fantasy football
team at basically one on Thursday as well. Because I
have a due to some injuries and some changes. I
have a Charger laden team. I had Herbert McConkey. I
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also had Jordan Addison, who who played well, you know,
double digit scoring in that game. And who else they have?
Oh when they had the Chargers defense and Cameron Dicker like,
I went like all Chargers sweet, I know, and I
killed it. And then my other guys were good too.
But so I so you're like watching Sunday with no
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no anxiety at all, like my especially at Charger fans,
we Chase do knows this, like it's not fun cerainly
not fun. Even now when they're coached by Harball, they
still have charged it up, you know recently. So the
Chargers one, I thought my fantasy team based upon the matchup.
We were in great shape and in the Sunday it
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was a stress free Sunday. I loved it.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Go Chargas, I love it. I love the conversation we
just had in the break because Doug, it's gonna be
warm in southern California coming up the next couple of days,
Santa Ana wins could be moving in. We could see
tempts into the nineties. Wow n Iowa. Sam made the point,
could this affect the Jays of the World Series, the
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warmer temperatures of low nineties, how would those snow birds
from Toronto be able to deal with the heats? Just
saying coming to Los Angeles, this is.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
A question, and tell me if I'm wrong. Sounds wasn't
it COVID? And again, I know it was a couple
of years ago, wasn't COVID. Didn't they not play in
Toronto all year?
Speaker 4 (15:53):
They played in Buffalo? For ah, yes, for uh, I think.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
We're gonna look, We're gonna look back at COVID. And
obviously there's lots of political stuff in the in the
backs and all the craziness that has ensued, right, but
just the idea that Buffalo played, I mean Toronto played
in Buffalo for a year, like, yeah, that happened. There's
lots of stuff that happened. But they actually played in Buffalo.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Is so so Kyrie could only play away games? Remember, Yeah,
it's bizarre.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Well, according to Sam, game two on Saturday was almost
postponed because they couldn't plow out Rogers Center. So this
is this is because I mean, because I'm under yes,
six feet of snow right now, let's just.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Get I don't want to get too far away from
the point that Sam was attempting to make. So you
have a roster made up of people from southern California
and Florida and then a whole bunch of guys that
grew up near the equator. I don't I don't know
if ninety degrees in la is going to impact and
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then you just got done playing an entire summer of baseball.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
An how we're in late October though, I mean, you
got guys get acclimated to their surroundings, and you live
up in Toronto, it's cooler. I'm just saying, what if
they're all sweating in the red fat?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I actually and I actually do wonder. Like again, here's
like kind of little. I know you guys are making
fun of salmon. It counts hot, easy target right, sounds.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Hot, but it's not easy. I thought it was just funny.
I thought it was I'm just like warm here.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Maybe it'll affect the game, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Thrown out.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
But I will point out though, that Santa Ana wins,
it's a different weather pattern. Where does the jay stud
Where does the wind when it's Santa Ana's Does it
come off of the off the mountains there. You've been
to the ravine more than anybody I know. Where does
it come in from? Does it come in from the
center field? Is it because it doesn't come in from
what people you understand about Santae wins is it comes
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in from the desert in the mountains, right, That's why
it comes in.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
So drop it blows in the east going west, which
is unusual.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, so does that make balls stay in the yard more?
But and hot? It's hot, but dry, so the balls
fly out more. And then the one thing about being
dry is it can't affect baseballs, and the balls do
fly more when it's dry. Remember in Colorado they put
the balls in a dehumidifier, right to keep the moisture
in it, because they do dry out when they dry out.
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They humid right, humidifier, That's what I mean because in
that in the altitude, they dry out. And that's one
of the the scientific theories is they fly further when
they're dried out. Like there actually is a little science
that might be interesting to it.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
If the ball is dry, it will fly.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
I should be noted during the Alcs, while it was
mostly west, Toronto did have to fly a little north
to go to Seattle, So Seattle further north than Toronto.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I know that, Yes, Jase.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I loved Yoshi Yamamato. You know, the last pitcher to
throw a complete game in the World Series was Johnny
Kwaito in twenty fifteen for the Royals. You just don't
see it done, and he's now done it back to back.
In postseason games, there was a lot of like, there's
a I think, what do you call those? Frozen cold takes?
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A former baseball player sent out a tweet the day
after the Dodgers signed Yamamato, saying, how could you give
that much money to a guy that hasn't pitched a
single pitch in the major leagues? And I would say
that the last two games are the exact reason why
you would pay that much money to someone. I think
he's made his money already, He's made us his money.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
And I also want to say that maybe the highlight
of the game for me was when Yamamoto put George
Springer on his ass. Now, George Springer all postseason long
has found himself on the back taking chin music, taking
close pitches. He's also done very well at the plate,
but I think the Yankees and the Dodgers specifically have
gone out of their way to tell him we have
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not forgotten about twenty seventeen. Again, you were the World
Series MVP, so you were the best cheater on the
team that was caught cheating. So that was my favorite
part of the weekend. I love seeing him almost get
hit in the chin and I like see Yamamoto tie
the series as we take it back to La here, I'm.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Gonna add one more here, Sam before we get to
you all. Good Mackenzie dern you guys familiar?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
No, okay, good, Mackenzie Derham won. She won this weekend.
She's a UFC fighter. She's as strawweight. She's a strawweight.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Just heard about that category. By the way, Steve Kavina
mentioned that Friday. I'm like, what's a strawweight?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I had no idea.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
It's like, yeah, so you don't.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
But she's a she's an attractive woman who's in UFC.
And the juxtaposition of the on Friday night and they
was in Abu Dhabi on Friday night at the way
in like there was some everybody's like God, bless the cameraman,
like some backside shots whatever, she's she's a beautiful woman, right,
But then she goes and fights and wins, and she
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comes out and she does a press conference and here's
this beautiful woe with gigantic shiners. It's like the juxtaposition
of the night before where she's stunning and in her skibbies,
and then after the fight she won and she looks
like she went three rounds with tyson Is. I just
love it just because again, it's one of those that's
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what is the real deal. I don't know how I
truly feel about women fighting. I guess I mean whatever,
But she had her six year old her out there
when she did a little victory lap, like she's a mom.
It's a it's a different world, a different life. But
just the juxtaposition of that was highly entertaining for me,
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from Friday night when people are hooting and hollering over
how good she looks, to Saturday when she won and
she looks like she got the crap kicked out of her.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
My answer to your question is, I'm never going to
get good. I'm never going to think it's normal to
watch women beating the crap out of other women. UFC
is not for me at all, but especially the women matches.
I don't get that. I'll never get there. I remember
back in the day when Ronda Ralsey was the best
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fighter on the sport and there was a conversation on
this network between two people that don't work her anymore,
cole Wright and Bill Ryder, and they took a segment
like betting if cole Wright could get a punch in
if you thought Ronda Ralsey. I just thought that that
conversation was unseemly. Are we really talking about men punching women?
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It's just yeah, not for me.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Sorry, Sammy, what do you got?
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I'm hoisting it in the air. It's not And I'm
sorry for the radio I love.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
I love the music though it makes up for it
for him.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
It's not the real Floyd of Roseale trophy.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
It's the one.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
It's the Christmas ornament Dan Get gave to me. The
real one's ninety eight pounds. And that's what IOWA was hosting,
or hoisting, I should say, hoisting the Floyd of Roseale trophy.
Hosting the Minnesota Golden Gophers at Kinnick Stadium, and this
one was a laugher. This was over a halftime. It
was thirty one nothing, Iowa wins forty one to three.
Biggest biggest blood in the series for Iowa since fifty
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five to nothing in two thousand and eight. This was
a little sweet to watch. I had a sweet sports weekend,
no stress, not like the Penn State game. So this
was my love of the weekend. Packers one, hawkeye'es one,
Dodgers even this series of it.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
By the way, I think, I think that those trophies
in our Christmas gift exchange here on the Doug Gottlieb
Show is the best gift that I've given anyone I know.
The worst one was the book I gave Jason Stewart
because it wasn't an audio book. It was their first year.
Have you even opened a page of the book, Jason?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I read?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Oh you did, Okay, I didn't think that you did.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
N I don't read it as fast it takes. It
takes me a long time.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Okay, I thought you didn't. So then maybe we're higher up.
But I am. I am very pleased that Sam is
taking a great pride in the Christmas gift. These are wonderful.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
They're miniatures of the of most of Iowa's rivalry trophies,
and yeah, I had got to bring in the Heartland
Trophy a few weeks ago, and now I got the
Florida ros deal.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Iowa, by the way, is living proof that nobody thinks
that the rest of the Big ten is any good,
right because here they are what six and too and
their two losses are combined by combined eight points. Iowa State,
it's got to fall apart a little bit in Indiana,
which is at home at a five point game, but they're unranked, unranked.
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Now they got Oregon at home and then go to
USC the Michigan State at home, then to Nebraska. I
gotta went out to get to the playoff.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Yeah, and I think that I don't know. I want
to see how this Oregon go game goes in two weeks.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
So let's say that, yeah, yeah, yep, ye.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Gotta wait though the Waiting's get to what we hated
from the weekend, shall we, And we'll start with our
resident hater, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
So there's a game in Cincinnati yesterday, and I am
in a survivor pool. For those that aren't familiar with
survivor pools, you pay one fee and you pick one
team each week. And you can't pick them again. So
we're into Week eight and the Bengals were primed to
be my survivor pick, right because they're not a very
good team. But you get to pick a bad team
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against a much worse team, that's a great survivor pick.
On Week eight, so they were playing the Jets, and
I don't know if people know this, but the Jets
had not scored one touchdown in the previous two weeks
of play. The Jets were coming off this week where
Woody Johnson said that the quarterback can't complete a pass.
The Bengals were up fifteen points entering the fourth quarter,
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and so many random things happened to get to this point,
but the Jets ended up winning over the Bengals, and
thirty three percent of my pool and myself are out
for the year because the Bengals gave up five hundred
and two total yards to a team that had not
scored a touchdown in two weeks prior. They gave up
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a fifteen point lead somehow in the fourth quarter to
the worst offense in football. I can't think of a
more painful way to exit a survivor pool. Brother get
beat forty eight to three, just like the Falcons yesterday.
That was like quick and painless. They were never in
that game. They weren't gonna win that game. But the
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Bengals could not have put me through a worse experience.
I can't stand you, Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
That was awful.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I got one. It's pretty easy. And yes I watched,
and I've watched a bunch of times because I'm that
sick guy. But I just damn Scatabo getting hit. And
you know, I've heard people say that's that hip drop tackle.
I don't feel like it was the same. He's just
a hard one, right, Like, how do you bring down
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a guy like that when you're trying to tackle him
from behind? You can't horse collar him. I guess you
can grab his legs, but his legs are so powerful.
But his foot got caught onneath and he broke his
ankle and it snapped and it was nasty. But just
more the energy, the love for football, the love for
hitting people like he's he's the classic like football guy,
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Like I just want to find somebody to hit him.
Not be able to play the rest of year sucks.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Just just saw a sweet from Jeff McClain covers the Eagles.
That Dom Desandro, you know security guy Dom for the Eagles.
They delivered pizza and cheesecake to Cam's Scataboo in the
hospital in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
It's crazy how how well liked and respected that guy is.
I even saw Eagles fans give him a hand when
when he was being wheeled off. Right, Eagles fans who
hate everybody and they don't care. Uh, don't hate cam'scattaboo.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Pizza and cheesecake but not cheese steak?
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Interesting?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Uh? Okay, what do you got there, Dan Byron?
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Well this I didn't like this. I don't know if
I hated this or not, but you guys know that
I've When Arch Manning was criticized for the opening loss
to oh Hio State, I said, I'm buying all the stock,
and I'll tell you what. It hasn't gotten much better
for Arch Manning. And even this weekend, when Arch and
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the Texas Longhorns are trailing Mississippi State by eighteen points
in the second half, Arch and the Longhorns come all
the way back to tie it and win it in overtime.
The only problem was that Arch got knocked out in overtime,
so we didn't throw the game winning pass, and the
game tying touchdown from Texas came on a punt return.
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But we're not talking about Archie, by the way, is
in concussion protocol throwing for three hundred and forty six
yards in three touchdowns in that win over Mississippi State.
So poor arch can't even reap the rewards of a
comeback victory in what has been a pileon season for
so many.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Where do you stand now, Dan? Where do you stand?
Speaker 4 (29:54):
I'm still in I will buy all of your shares, yes.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I mean, just to get the listeners up to speed.
Dan was like the first person on this network anyways,
one of the first people I saw, and I consume
a lot of content who brought up the notion that
the Saints would be tanking this season to make a
play for arch Manning. Now, Dan was saying this, probably
like last season or at the end of last season.
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I thought it was an interesting take at the time
that nobody had really considered. But right now, is Archie
even going to come out.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Of this note?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
No, he wasn't gonna come out anyway, though.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Well, the last part of my I'm sorry, go ahead, Doug,
I was just gonna say that was part of my
argument because you can declare and find out who has
the number one overall pick. So if the Saints were
did have the number one overall pick, that there would
be a decision because of Archie's ties and the whole
family's ties to the city of New Orleans and the Saints.
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And I will still stand by the fact that if
arch Manning was in last year's draft, he would have
gone ahead of cam Ward and he would be a
Tennessee Titan right now, which I know is not possible
because he's not eligible for the draft, but it's just
my thought process and how we looked at Archs at
the time.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
So it's kind of like Matt Barkley. Remember when Matt
Barley came back for a year, he probably would have
been the number one pick and then he like played
his way out of the first round and second round.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah, but Matt Barkley was aided by a lot of
good guys around him and him being the freshman quarterback.
We just assumed he was the next in line. So
that assumption maybe could be the case. But by the way,
arch could stay not only for next year, yeah, he
can stay in twenty twenty seven and still be at Texas,
which is something that Peyton and Eli also did in
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staying longer at schools than we thought maybe they would
or could.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Right, right, And it's not about the money, like everybody
makes quarterbacks staying about the money. It's not with the
money of them. It's about being ready so that you're
ready to play right away. Yes, and again lost in
the Arch Manning thing was what a comeback? What a
comeback win? I mean, put up twenty four in the
fourth quarter, a come back force overtime winning over in Stark, Vegas.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I I also think I just think like Arch is
a good kid. Yeah, like there's there's he he didn't
have to be. You may feel that there's oversaturation of
the Mannings, but I think the Manning family is pretty
good family overall. And maybe you know, like he had
every reason he could have every reason to be you know, yes,
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and he's not yep, yep, pair fair anyone else?
Speaker 5 (32:33):
I got one here, Doug, real quick, here my bad Sammy. Well, listen,
if someone showed up two and a half hours to
your home early for a party, I think you'd be
I'd be miffed personally. I first noticed one of these work.
What's that put in work?
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I just just like, guess, you're in my hair though
I just speak, I have to entertain you. Yeah, you
can put them to work, I guess, But then you
worry about, you know, if they're screwing something up. But
I first noticed one of these on October two wealth
and since then there's been a proliferation of Christmas theme
commercials in October. I don't remember growing up with I
celebrated my birthday a week from last Sunday on the nineteenth.
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I don't remember there ever being Christmas theme commercials in
the month of October. If we were in the middle
of April and people started saying, Hey, let's get ready
for Fourth of July right now, I'd be like, what
are you talking about. That's two and a half months away.
I just I don't get. This is a recent phenomenon.
I love Christmas, and I love the holiday season. There's
a time and a place to celebrate these and kind
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of forcing like sleigh bells and Christmas lights and stuff
down your throat for two and a half months. It
just really it really wears on me, actually kind of
makes me resent the holiday as a whole. So to
the people that are to the companies that are starting, listen,
you can sell whatever you want your store, but you're
starting the Christmas Them's commercials in early to mid October
and we have to endure months of this.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
I hate it.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
I'm out on that stuff. I do not like it.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
That's fair, by the way, Jay Stu, I know you
love this this date in history in nineteen oh four.
New York Subway launch launches nineteen oh four.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
It's like, did they have like the cold cut combo
or of the foot long meetball which is like eighteen dollars?
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Now?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Is it eighteen dollars? How much is it?
Speaker 5 (34:21):
No, it's it's like twelve bucks. I mean it's definitely
not five dollars anymore. Fullime over ten.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Dollars and that is eleven eight.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
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Speaker 1 (34:38):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Let's
check in for our weekly visit with our own GM here.
Tom to LESCo was a gentle manager of the Chargers
for eleven years, going back to San Diego all the
way through the move to Los Angeles. Of course, last
year was the GM of the Las Vegas Raiders. He
joins us every week here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Let me start with the Jets, okay,
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because if you go back to last week, their owner
comes out and says, hey, if we could just complete
a pass right clearly calling out Justin Fields. And then
Justin Fields is not particularly good in the first half,
and all seems lost, and then a funny thing happens.
Brice Hall. Uh yeah, Brice Hall ends up having a
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spectacular second half and Justin Fields has a good second
half and they win their first game of the season. Tommy,
how do you how do you view Justin Fields here
with his third team in three years, just four years
in the NFL?
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Well, look, I think he is what he is and
if just for an office knew what they're getting when
they signed him. He's a dynamic athlete. He gets a
strong arm, and he's a really good leader in the
locker room. He's a good leader as a quarterback. He
has those skills. It's the pocket passing part of that,
the processing in the pocket that the decision making. It
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hasn't been great, and it's it's hard at this point
of his career to keep in proving at that. Usually
at this point either have that or you don't. But
what I like, I mean, obviously you don't like those
comments that come from the owner last week. But it
does give the opportunity for the GM or the head
coach quite at GM in this this case, to sit
down with Justin Field and say, hey, look, I believe
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in you. I signed you no matter what people think
inside or outside the building. It's a change that they
kind of get behind the player. I show your belief
in him, because, like I said, they knew what they
were getting when they signed them. So yeah, sorry, they
got Brice Hall. Bries hauled the ball a lot more.
He's a big time running back. And you saw the
team kind of rally around the quarterback. And obviously it
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helped that the Bengals defense just really struggled in the
second half that they couldn't get any stops. But you know,
it does show you know this this is a people
business and as a GM or head coach, to get
behind your quarterback. Look, keep your starter, you sign them
for a reason. You know, he's not perfect, but he
can't help you win some games, and I think this
game a chance to do that.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
It's Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so
the uh, what's the difference in the injury report with
the Ravens and say the Jets, Right, because Aaron Glenn
was playing, Koy didn't want to name a starter, and
he said, it's just because I don't want to. It
wasn't because of actual injury. Right. Even though Torod Taylor
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was coming off the injured list for the Ravens, we
thought Lamar Jackson was going to start and then he
was pulled at the last second. From as a guy
who's been in this league for thirty years, what's all
this mean?
Speaker 6 (37:38):
Yeah, with the Jets, their injury report with Torod Taylor
was accurate, and you don't have to name a start
or but you do have to be accurate with your
injury report in terms of what the injury is, what
his practice status was, and then at the end of
the week, what his gain status is. So this is
all about competitive equity and sports betting, probably more sports
betting than anything else, but there is a competitive equity
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to it because there's an advantage gained if you don't
know who's playing. I mean, preparing for Lamar Jackson is
going to be a lot different than preparing for Cooper
Rusher or Tyler Huntley. So it's a big difference, but
brilliant reality. It's about sports betting. That's why the injury
reports started way back in probably the forties and fifties.
But it's so important right now because as you saw
with Lamar when his status changed, I mean the line
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moved like six points or five and a half six points,
which is which is massive. So it's the responsibility of
the GM and or the head coach, not the head trainer,
and not not your PR director to be very accurate
with those reports. And we all know the rules. The
league is very stringent on it, and it just surprises
me for a front office that's been there as long
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as they have that they wouldn't know the rule. So
because it's our job to know the rule, and like
for me for eleven years, like I did every single
every single injury report Wednesday Thursday for AUS and the
game status, I just felt like if very important, if
there's any mistakes, it'll come from me. But in that process.
You talk to the trainers, you talk to doctors, you
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talk to the head coach, you watch practice, sometimes I
even talk to player. You do the injury report and
make sure it's accurate. So I would expect in this
case like there's gonna be some significant finds the club finy,
some finds to the head coach and or GM just
to show everybody the hey, this is important. It has
to be taken seriously because you know, especially the way
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that the sports betting is right now.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
No question about it. Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. That's the voice of Tom Telesco, former gentleal
manager of the Chargers and the Raiders. He joins us
for a weekly visit here on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Scat about was having yet another impactful game. Then he
breaks his ankle. Obviously, you know you're worried about the
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momentum where the Giants is just such momentum carried by
those two young players. But player wise, how do you
evaluate what a guy Dad's going to look like in
the future. When he wasn't the most explosive, he was
just incredibly physical, and you got to deal with the
fact that there's going to be a rehabilitation process when
that injury happens. How do you evaluate Cam Scattabo as
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a GM.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
Well, you'll definitely want to see I don't know exactly
what the injury is yet and what damage was inside
his ankle. Most often he will come back at one
hundred percent if it was an ankle dislocation. I mean,
obviously he's going to be out for the year, but
he should be going to be back at one hundred
percent next year. Yeah, he's obviously a powerful, strong, physical
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running back, but he also has and I hate to
use the word deceptive, but he has some lateral quickness.
He has some bursts in the hole. Does he have
the elite long speed down the field. No, he doesn't
quite have that, but he's shown even in high school.
If you used to see his high school highlights out
here in California, they're amazing. But even in college and
at the pro level, he still has some foot quickness
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to make some people miss, and then he has the
body controlling the balance just to spin and turn and
get yards after contact. Yeah, you're gonna look really hard
to talk with your doctors about exactly what happened that
that is an injury that doesn't happen. It's not a
common injury, but it does happen.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
He should be.
Speaker 6 (41:15):
Back two hundred percent next year, that's the hope. He
brings so much choice and energy to that offense. Now
they're gonna have to pair him, you know, with another
back of a different style, and they have it a
little bit right now with with Singletary and Tarrow and Tracy,
but he's gonna be a bell cop to them moving forward.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
What's going on with Atlanta.
Speaker 6 (41:33):
Man, it's it's hard to understand. Their highs are high,
their lows are so low, and there's just no consistency
level with that. Now. Yesterday with with Kirk Cousins, obvious
the starter was out, he didn't have a strong game,
But that has just been so inconsistent, the ups and downs.
I mean, they beat Buffalo by two scorers and then
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lose the forty nine ers team that's just really dined
up by two scores. So it's just been up and down.
Lots of the Panthers by thirty to beat the Vikings
by two or three scores. So there's got to be
consistency level there. They have a lot of tools on offense.
I understand yesterday Drake London was out and Kirk Cousins
was a quarterback, but they're hard team to figure out
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right now. Now, the positive is, you know, their division
other than Tampa is weak, so they still have a
really good chance to move up and hopefully get a
wild card because they have talent on offense and defense
has a little bit inconsistent. But they've been a probably
the hardest team to figure out this season.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Okay, what about the Green Bay Packers? Are they the
first half or the second half? Packers?
Speaker 6 (42:40):
Well, I'm always looking at the full game and they're
a sixty minute team, and watching yesterday, I thought it
was just so impressive. You know, Pittsburgh is known to
bring a lot of pressure, a lot of blitzes, and
Love just just tore them up. I mean, his poison
a pocket, he had answers, and that la Floor had
answers for everything that the Steelers threw at him, and
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he just tore up their blitzes. And they got a
great spark from the Emmanuel Wilson in the second half.
They can't run tard at two hundred and twenty five pounds.
He has some quickness of some bursts, but really physical player.
But you know, you get to a sixty minute game
Green Bays that the defenses gets going, they can rush
the passer Pittsburgh offensive line if you can get them
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in a straight drop back game, which will happen if
you're down, and Pittsburg was down in the second half,
you make them pass protect a true pass protectors. That's
not their strength. And the strength of Green Bays defense
is getting after the passers. So you saw that show
up last night. The once the Packers got the lead,
you can kind of see how the defense can kind
of turn it over from there. But I was just
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really impressed with with with Love last night. I mean,
he just looks so poised, so effortless in the pocket,
wasn't panicked with the pressure and playoffs standing.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Wells played a night against Commanders. They have won four
to the last five games. What do they figure it out?
Speaker 6 (44:01):
You know a lot of it's just that receiver. Obviously
getting getting right back is helpful. It seems like every
year Andy Reid's despagnolo. You know, the year may not
start off exactly as anticipated, and then they kind of
figure things out, They fix things on their run. And
this year's been no different. The Chiefs offense last couple
of weeks it looked like the old Chiefs offense, and
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and but it's sometimes it takes a little while to
get there, but they've they've kind of picked it up.
But the defense is the one. Their defense has been
the one that's really been the major part of their
team that the last couple of years. And the defense
is playing a lot better right now than they did.
They even in the opening game against the Chargers, you
don't see as many any many receivers running free in
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the secondary. They've got power pass rushers up front, and
Stagnola's outstanding with his schemes. So the fact that the
defense is playing better and then the offense is trying
to get some weapons back, I think that's been the
biggest step.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, it's going to be interesting. The Commanders team is
kind of sort of falling apart. Tom Telesco is our
guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Let's look ahead because this was a weird week, right,
Six teams on a buy. That's that's a lot. That's
a lot. Baltimore's trying to save their season against the
Miami team that just went how do you handle the
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Miami thing right? Because tool was good yesterday, you know,
it was really good, but it's been such a mess previously.
What are your thoughts on Miami and how you handle that.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
Look the Miami offense early in the year, they were
doing some good things. They were converting our third Dallas
going in the red zone. We've seen to a play
at a high level. It just hasn't been this year,
but we've seen him play at a high level when
when they really get in rhythm, when you can anticipate
get the ball out. Not having Tyreek Hill is a
big deal right now. But the biggest issue for the
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Dolphins has nothing to do with Dolphense is all about
the defense. They just can't stop anybody and that's been
a problem all year, with a bit of a problem
last year, and that's gonna be hard thing to fix
during the season because they just don't have the talent
on that side of the ball. So you're you're totally
relying on the offense to score enough points, which they
did yesterday. But look their offense with with with McDaniel
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head coach, they're gonna figure out ways to move the ball,
but they just can't get stops on defense. And I
just don't see that changing right now.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
No, No, they can't, and it's bad. And he's an
offensive coach, and it just feels like they've lost the defense.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
They had Big Fangio there a couple of years ago,
and you know, Vick was the coordinator that defense. For
whatever reason, it didn't work out. It goes to Philadelphia,
and Philadelphia's back to where they've been on defense. But
I'm not pitting the doll on the defensive coordinator. But
they've made a lot of changes on defense personnel wise.
They let some homegrown talent out the door, they brought
in some free agents, they made some trades, but they
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just hasn't had the continuity on defense to play well.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio Real Quick.
Uh uh uh So the Bill the Bills have the
Chiefs coming up next, and they finally played well, but
Ed Oliver tore his bicep. I think he's out for
the out for the year. Uh what does that mean
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for the Bills defense, which had been struggling anyway.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
Yeah, he's a very good interior pass rusher. He's extremely quick,
and explosive inside, So they're gonna miss him. Typically with
that injury, they could possibly get him back for the playoffs,
depending on a couple of things. I wouldn't think I
would think he would be out for the regular season,
but hopefully they can leave the door open for the
playoffs and hopefully get him back. But that's been the
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Bill's achilles field and they put a lot of effort
in the off season into upgrading the defensive line just
with depth, and just hasn't quite come together yet. I
thought they did a pretty good job yesterday against against
the Panthers. The Pentis have two extra running backs with
with Hubard and Rico Dadel and they kind of held
them in check. Now that helps obviously when you get
the lead that they had, I mean, the team isn't
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gonna run as much, So that could be the answer
for the Bills is you just try and get the
lead as quickly as possible, and that would just basically
shut down the opponent's running game because he was not
gonna run the ball as much, and you can kind
of get into your just rush the passer mode. And
I know Joey Bosa had a good game yesterday, which
is always great to see. I love Joey as I
had him with the Chargers. But yeah, but the Ed
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Oliver thing is it's gonna hurt him a little bit.
I mean, he's a little bit of an inconsistent player,
but his flashes are very high and he can really
rush the passer and he can chase things down with
range inside the tackle box. So but you know, this
is a really an offensive team. They're gonna have to
keep relying on that.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
You also watch a ton of of on the college
scene quarterback wise, Gosh, I gotta tell you, like, is
Mendoza the guy? Is he the guy that would go
number one overall? Like when you're evaluating these quarterbacks of
what you've seen, who's been the most impressive.
Speaker 6 (49:00):
Well, I haven't gotten into the details of it yet.
I have seen Mendoza. I thought he flashed them things
when he was at Cali, looked like an interesting player there.
I didn't study him, but just by seeing my TV
and he goes to Indiana, he's kind of showed a
lot of those same traits. I don't know if there
is a guy yet. And usually at this point, as
you get towards Halloween, you know that the top win
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or two guys kind of just jump out and really
haven't seen that so far with this group. So we
shall see. I mean it's hard when we're a team
that needs a quarterback. Sometimes you start inflating some of
these players' values, and this could be the year that
it happens more so than ever. But he has some
traits as a pocket passer. He makes pretty quick decisions
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get the ball out. He's athletic enough, you know, I
don't think he's gonna be a big time runner in
the league, but enough to get to Gray to where
he needs to go. But uh, there just hasn't been
that one quarterback that just jumped up and really jumped
out kind of you cam Ward at this point last year,
you could tell the skills that he had, he just
jumped off the screen, And there just hasn't been quite
anybody like that so far yet this year.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
How much of cam ward struggles you give you pause
over what he looks like long term?
Speaker 6 (50:09):
You know, it doesn't give me a lot of pause.
I think coming into the season, you knew they were
going to be ups and downs. He's the young rookie
quarterback who just doesn't have enough talent around him. Yet
offensive line is a strong enough. Yet they don't nearly
have enough weapons at receiver. I like Taj Spears at
running back, but they just don't have a lot there yet.
So the infrastructure isn't good enough. And then now you
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take out its head coach and coordinator and now they're
all on transition. So I'm not so much worried about
it yet, but there's just a lot of work there
to do. I mean, when you have that many regime
changes and that many GM and head coaching changes, philosophy
has changed, investments and different players change, so they have
to get consistent and kind of and just start building
this and it's going to take some time. So yeah,
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I'm not worried yet, you know, but it's just going
to take some work.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Tell me the best man, Love having you on the show.
Incredible insight from a guy who spend this entire professional
life in the league, appreciates being our guest on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (51:04):
Awesome Thanks Doreg. Take care
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over twenty years now and we got a lot to
get to. The Packers come from behind and end up
smacking the Steelers late last night. We'll talk about that
during the show. Tom Telesco, former GM of the Chargers
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and Raiders, will join us this hour. You'll hear what
we loved, what we hated from this weekend in sports,
and it was a full sports weekend. Wait to you
what Jerry Jones said about his defense tonight. I actually
agree with him. By agree with him, got a lot
to get to. World Series Game three will be on
a way tonight. Dodgers took Game two after getting stomped
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in game one that wasn't a Friday night, so we'll see.
Obviously this is this, this becomes the swing game. You know,
we get some NFL talk about, we get some college
football talk about. Plus, this is the sports Equinox. Is
that right, Jase? Two Sports Equinox.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Thirty second of all time, thirty second sports Equinox of
all time.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And the basics of the sports Equinox are of all
of the major all the professional sports are playing all
at once, right, That that's what it is. And Jason's problem,
and I agree with him, is are we really considering soccer?
But yeah, soccer, hockey, NBA, NFL. Is there college football tonight?
(01:52):
I don't know. Is there a college football to night?
Probably is. There's college foball like every night. But I
guess we're only considering professional.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Only professional sports. I'm willing to barely let hockey in.
I think in the nineties it was made a Major
four and barely anybody watches that sport. But soccer, that's
a reach. It's almost like when they're listing the five
things in the Sports Equinox and they get to the
MLS game. It's almost like when people say after a
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couple people die that are famous. You know, they always
go in threes, and then there's always a The third
one is always a stretch. Yes, you have two like
a listers and then a guy that worked, you know,
on a movie at some point.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
So you're thinking soccer as a stretch. I would agree
with you. Aki is kind of a stretch. But it
does make sense because it's been around long enough, it's secure,
it's cure enough in itself. So we'll get to the sports.
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So I think, guys, we start with I mean, personally,
I think we start with Brian Kelly losing his job.
And I understand Brian Kelly has there's some things in
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his career which everybody makes fun of, or if you
just don't like him. Right when he was first in
Notre Dame, you would scream at mostly his quarterback and
he would turn purple in the face, hard image to
get out of your head. Of course, you had the
Scissor incident, which is an absolute tragedy at Notre Dame,
and social media likes to have fun at Brian Kelly's expense.
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But Brian Kelly gets fired, and I just there just
isn't any way in which there's realistic expectations. That just isn't.
This is not the I mean again, you can listen
to it as the coach telling you this. But LSU
lost to really good teams. That league has really good teams,
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and LSU chose to do it through the portal, and
on paper, they should be better than other people because
of what they've done in the portal. But the problem
is that the portal does isn't always. It isn't always
the way to win. It's really hard to put a
team together to make them care, and so the win
over Clemson doesn't look as good as it should. The
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win over Florida, Florida's fired their coach. The three losses
all the good teams in the sec OLE Miss on
the Road, Vanderbilt on the road, A and M at
home Stompson and they end up firing him. I think
what's amazing about LSU football is this is much more
in line with LSU football historically. That's just the reality.
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I mean, the guy who changed it was really Saban
And then after Saban, Less Miles had a a bunch
of you know, had consecutive ten win seasons. But they're
five and three right now. Even if Brian Kelly was
to lose to Alabama, they were on track for another
nine and four year And I just I don't think
that's terrible. And it's like, look, dude, they've won ten, ten, nine,
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probably nine now and that's the expectation. That's where they fall.
And the only times that they've had these spectacular years,
right I mean, you had the Joe Burrow year. That's
the most talented team maybe in the history of college
football if you look at what they had during edwar
Zron's fifteen o season in twenty nineteen. Outside of that,
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edwar Juan won nine ten, and then of course you
had the Covid years and the ugly years at the
end where he won five and six. You know, Les
Miles had the one year where he went thirteen and one,
and he had a couple coming off of Nick Saban
he had three consecutive eleven plus win seasons, but he
had eight, he had a five, he had an eight
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and nine. Then finally they fired him in an eight
win year. This is actually and it's more competitive now
that's ever been. LSU is finding out that however, you
want a word, what they used to do and the
extra benefits they used to provide. It was generally seen
as a cheaters school. Now you're in the SEC where
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everyone can buy players. It's I mean this, Oklahoma, I
said this when they joined the SEC. A program that's
used to ten and eleven win seasons is going to
have to get used to four in five loss seasons.
That's going to be the norm, not the exception. It's
really that difficult. Alabama, same thing like Alabama's. They are
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winning games and I was the guy who defended klen
Borrer to start the year when they lost to Florida
State and they've won every game since. But the fact
is that Alabama is a player two away from having
three losses instead of number four right in the face.
It's really what it's like in this league. It's a
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super league and you have to adjust otherwise. And the
crazy part about it is that Brian Kelly has gone
from a guy that seemed unlikable, seemed unrelatable, to boy enviable.
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I guarantee if I ask Jay Stu, if I ask
Dan Bayer, if I ask Sam, No matter how much
we love what we do, if I said you can't
do that anymore at the place in which you work
or wherever, you just can't do it anymore. But I'm
gonna give you fifty four million dollars to not do
it anymore, you'd be like, okay, But we've reached this
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point of ridiculousness in college football. It started this year
when you fired two coaches three games in the season,
and now you're firing just anybody who doesn't win an
SEC championship, and the expectations are as such. And the
crazy part about it is you can continue to fire
coaches whenever you want. You can't really fire players when
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you want. But it's also fair to say that Brian
Kelly to LSU was a weird fit. And then you
have people go, well, he's not recruiting anymore, he's not
recruiting the same level. Yes they are, heart they recruit
out of the portal. They don't do the high school recruiting,
and it's just hard to build a team out of
the portal. But what I think got LSU, what got
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Brian Kelly is the depth of that league. Is that
the last two years the league has been okay, and
by SEC standards, it's been a little bit down. And
now with the new ruling, they've gone just all in
money wise, and there is way more talent and way
more parody. And he's lost to three really good teams.
It's hard for people to adjust to the fact that
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Vanderbilt is good, but Vanderbilt is actually legitimate and good.
That's because Vanderbilt no longer has the academic limitations that
used to have, and now you know that it's not
cheating for them to buy players, whereas previously Vanderbilt was
you had the reputation of they didn't do anything extra.
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I think that's what people are struggling to adjust to.
The adjustment in where Vanderbilt sits in the grand scheme
of things, and the fact that everybody's got players, and
if you put yourself ahead based upon the fact that
you were buying players previously, you're not anything special now
unless you just have more money than everybody else.
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to you. Hope you had a spectacular weekend. It was
my last weekend. Really, there's lots of exhibition games for basketball.
We didn't have one, so last weekend before we get
ready for it. Right, We got an exhibition games Thursday
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against our crosstown friend sort of rivals, Saint Norbert, and
then a week from tonight we opened at fall Gallenfield House.
As I described to our donors, that's the Lambeau of
college basketball, right is that? Okay? That is that an
easy way to describe it? There? Dan Buyer a Lambeau
of college basketball.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Yes, and no, because Lambo doesn't necessarily have the history
that you would think it would like if we compare
it to a Fenway Park going to Wrigley Field. I mean,
Lambeau has been around since the what late fifties I
believe is when they left City Stadium, so not as
not as historic. But yes, I would say in the
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in the words of a of a destination, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I mean again, you're it's it's one of those things
where you're like me, we know too much and so
we get caught up in the we get caught up
in it. But there is a you know, it's like
Vince Lombardi coach there, March Star quarterback there. I agree,
it doesn't go back one hundred years. You don't have
the inventor of football, right, you don't have uh, you
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don't have the inventor of football there where Whereas James
Naismith was the coach and the only unsuccessful coach in
the history of Kansas basketball. So he was a professor there,
coach there. The rules are there, but it does feel
it's just different than the rest of the venues. And
the part that I compare it to and I know that.
And here's where it's it's actually different, right, is Lambeau.
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They kind of built this whole shell around the old
steel girders, and the lower bowl is still the same.
Everything else has really been changed and modernized for the
most part. Sure, right. I think that's one of the
beauties to fog Allen is they haven't gone in and
done anything because they'd have to get it up to code,
and so it is still bleachers most of it.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Well, I'll tell you a field jokes on me because
fogg Allen Field I was open in nineteen fifty five,
so older. I didn't too.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, I thought I was older than it.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, So so my bad on that my apology.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So it was closer, closer.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
We thought it was very close. Yes, yes I didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I didn't go unnoticed. I got a tweezer from Corvette Guy.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Corvette Guy, Corvette Guy catches everything.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Oh Man, Doug was lined up only off by a
few years. Yeah, fall allon, and I immediately I thought.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
It was I thought it was older too to begin with.
I thought I was older to be terrible.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I do think that, like Lambeau is the must see destination,
but it I think like it gets put in there
as they said, like I mentioned with the Fenway Parks
and the in the in the Wrigley Fields, thinking that
the Packers were playing in that stadium like the Bears played,
you know, Wrigley Field whenever. But that's yeah, so I
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was wrong. I will take the.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
L There you go, all right, nowhere else for you today.
Let's get to love and hate.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
What did you love?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
God?
Speaker 6 (13:30):
I love you?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Meet these player hays.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Ah love love love, love, love, love hate hate hate
hate hate? What'd your love from the weekend? What'd you
hate from the weekend? We get to share it all,
don't we. I'm gonna just share my love really really quickly,
and I have maybe another one if we have time
to circle back to because I know these guys super
prep for it. There is nothing at all like watching
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I had the rare treat Dan Byer. You'll, I think
you can appreciate this, probably even more so than the
other guys. I had two wins in my back pocket,
Chargers one on a Thursday night and my fantasy football
team at basically one on Thursday as well. Because I
have a due to some injuries and some changes. I
have a Charger laden team. I had Herbert McConkey. I
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also had Jordan Addison, who who played well, you know,
double digit scoring in that game. And who else they have?
Oh when they had the Chargers defense and Cameron Dicker like,
I went like all Chargers sweet, I know, and I
killed it. And then my other guys were good too.
But so I so you're like watching Sunday with no
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no anxiety at all, like my especially at Charger fans,
we Chase do knows this, like it's not fun cerainly
not fun. Even now when they're coached by Harball, they
still have charged it up, you know recently. So the
Chargers one, I thought my fantasy team based upon the matchup.
We were in great shape and in the Sunday it
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was a stress free Sunday. I loved it.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Go Chargas, I love it. I love the conversation we
just had in the break because Doug, it's gonna be
warm in southern California coming up the next couple of days,
Santa Ana wins could be moving in. We could see
tempts into the nineties. Wow n Iowa. Sam made the point,
could this affect the Jays of the World Series, the
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warmer temperatures of low nineties, how would those snow birds
from Toronto be able to deal with the heats? Just
saying coming to Los Angeles, this is.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
A question, and tell me if I'm wrong. Sounds wasn't
it COVID? And again, I know it was a couple
of years ago, wasn't COVID. Didn't they not play in
Toronto all year?
Speaker 4 (15:53):
They played in Buffalo? For ah, yes, for uh, I think.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
We're gonna look, We're gonna look back at COVID. And
obviously there's lots of political stuff in the in the
backs and all the craziness that has ensued, right, but
just the idea that Buffalo played, I mean Toronto played
in Buffalo for a year, like, yeah, that happened. There's
lots of stuff that happened. But they actually played in Buffalo.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Is so so Kyrie could only play away games? Remember, Yeah,
it's bizarre.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Well, according to Sam, game two on Saturday was almost
postponed because they couldn't plow out Rogers Center. So this
is this is because I mean, because I'm under yes,
six feet of snow right now, let's just.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Get I don't want to get too far away from
the point that Sam was attempting to make. So you
have a roster made up of people from southern California
and Florida and then a whole bunch of guys that
grew up near the equator. I don't I don't know
if ninety degrees in la is going to impact and
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then you just got done playing an entire summer of baseball.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
An how we're in late October though, I mean, you
got guys get acclimated to their surroundings, and you live
up in Toronto, it's cooler. I'm just saying, what if
they're all sweating in the red fat?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I actually and I actually do wonder. Like again, here's
like kind of little. I know you guys are making
fun of salmon. It counts hot, easy target right, sounds.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Hot, but it's not easy. I thought it was just funny.
I thought it was I'm just like warm here.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Maybe it'll affect the game, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Thrown out.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
But I will point out though, that Santa Ana wins,
it's a different weather pattern. Where does the jay stud
Where does the wind when it's Santa Ana's Does it
come off of the off the mountains there. You've been
to the ravine more than anybody I know. Where does
it come in from? Does it come in from the
center field? Is it because it doesn't come in from
what people you understand about Santae wins is it comes
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in from the desert in the mountains, right, That's why
it comes in.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
So drop it blows in the east going west, which
is unusual.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, so does that make balls stay in the yard more?
But and hot? It's hot, but dry, so the balls
fly out more. And then the one thing about being
dry is it can't affect baseballs, and the balls do
fly more when it's dry. Remember in Colorado they put
the balls in a dehumidifier, right to keep the moisture
in it, because they do dry out when they dry out.
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They humid right, humidifier, That's what I mean because in
that in the altitude, they dry out. And that's one
of the the scientific theories is they fly further when
they're dried out. Like there actually is a little science
that might be interesting to it.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
If the ball is dry, it will fly.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
I should be noted during the Alcs, while it was
mostly west, Toronto did have to fly a little north
to go to Seattle, So Seattle further north than Toronto.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I know that, Yes, Jase.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
I loved Yoshi Yamamato. You know, the last pitcher to
throw a complete game in the World Series was Johnny
Kwaito in twenty fifteen for the Royals. You just don't
see it done, and he's now done it back to back.
In postseason games, there was a lot of like, there's
a I think, what do you call those? Frozen cold takes?
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A former baseball player sent out a tweet the day
after the Dodgers signed Yamamato, saying, how could you give
that much money to a guy that hasn't pitched a
single pitch in the major leagues? And I would say
that the last two games are the exact reason why
you would pay that much money to someone. I think
he's made his money already, He's made us his money.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Is that what it is?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
And I also want to say that maybe the highlight
of the game for me was when Yamamoto put George
Springer on his ass. Now, George Springer all postseason long
has found himself on the back taking chin music, taking
close pitches. He's also done very well at the plate,
but I think the Yankees and the Dodgers specifically have
gone out of their way to tell him we have
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not forgotten about twenty seventeen. Again, you were the World
Series MVP, so you were the best cheater on the
team that was caught cheating. So that was my favorite
part of the weekend. I love seeing him almost get
hit in the chin and I like see Yamamoto tie
the series as we take it back to La here, I'm.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Gonna add one more here, Sam before we get to
you all. Good Mackenzie dern you guys familiar?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:46):
No, okay, good, Mackenzie Derham won. She won this weekend.
She's a UFC fighter. She's as strawweight. She's a strawweight.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Just heard about that category. By the way, Steve Kavina
mentioned that Friday. I'm like, what's a strawweight?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I had no idea.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
It's like, yeah, so you don't.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
But she's a she's an attractive woman who's in UFC.
And the juxtaposition of the on Friday night and they
was in Abu Dhabi on Friday night at the way
in like there was some everybody's like God, bless the cameraman,
like some backside shots whatever, she's she's a beautiful woman, right,
But then she goes and fights and wins, and she
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comes out and she does a press conference and here's
this beautiful woe with gigantic shiners. It's like the juxtaposition
of the night before where she's stunning and in her skibbies,
and then after the fight she won and she looks
like she went three rounds with tyson Is. I just
love it just because again, it's one of those that's
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what is the real deal. I don't know how I
truly feel about women fighting. I guess I mean whatever,
But she had her six year old her out there
when she did a little victory lap, like she's a mom.
It's a it's a different world, a different life. But
just the juxtaposition of that was highly entertaining for me,
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from Friday night when people are hooting and hollering over
how good she looks, to Saturday when she won and
she looks like she got the crap kicked out of her.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
My answer to your question is, I'm never going to
get good. I'm never going to think it's normal to
watch women beating the crap out of other women. UFC
is not for me at all, but especially the women matches.
I don't get that. I'll never get there. I remember
back in the day when Ronda Ralsey was the best
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fighter on the sport and there was a conversation on
this network between two people that don't work her anymore,
cole Wright and Bill Ryder, and they took a segment
like betting if cole Wright could get a punch in
if you thought Ronda Ralsey. I just thought that that
conversation was unseemly. Are we really talking about men punching women?
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It's just yeah, not for me.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Sorry, Sammy, what do you got?
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I'm hoisting it in the air. It's not And I'm
sorry for the radio I love.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
I love the music though it makes up for it
for him.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
It's not the real Floyd of Roseale trophy.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
It's the one.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
It's the Christmas ornament Dan Get gave to me. The
real one's ninety eight pounds. And that's what IOWA was hosting,
or hoisting, I should say, hoisting the Floyd of Roseale trophy.
Hosting the Minnesota Golden Gophers at Kinnick Stadium, and this
one was a laugher. This was over a halftime. It
was thirty one nothing, Iowa wins forty one to three.
Biggest biggest blood in the series for Iowa since fifty
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five to nothing in two thousand and eight. This was
a little sweet to watch. I had a sweet sports weekend,
no stress, not like the Penn State game. So this
was my love of the weekend. Packers one, hawkeye'es one,
Dodgers even this series of it.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
By the way, I think, I think that those trophies
in our Christmas gift exchange here on the Doug Gottlieb
Show is the best gift that I've given anyone I know.
The worst one was the book I gave Jason Stewart
because it wasn't an audio book. It was their first year.
Have you even opened a page of the book, Jason?
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I read?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Oh you did, Okay, I didn't think that you did.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
N I don't read it as fast it takes. It
takes me a long time.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Okay, I thought you didn't. So then maybe we're higher up.
But I am. I am very pleased that Sam is
taking a great pride in the Christmas gift. These are wonderful.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
They're miniatures of the of most of Iowa's rivalry trophies,
and yeah, I had got to bring in the Heartland
Trophy a few weeks ago, and now I got the
Florida ros deal.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Iowa, by the way, is living proof that nobody thinks
that the rest of the Big ten is any good,
right because here they are what six and too and
their two losses are combined by combined eight points. Iowa State,
it's got to fall apart a little bit in Indiana,
which is at home at a five point game, but they're unranked, unranked.
(25:12):
Now they got Oregon at home and then go to
USC the Michigan State at home, then to Nebraska. I
gotta went out to get to the playoff.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Yeah, and I think that I don't know. I want
to see how this Oregon go game goes in two weeks.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
So let's say that, yeah, yeah, yep, ye.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Gotta wait though the Waiting's get to what we hated
from the weekend, shall we, And we'll start with our
resident hater, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
So there's a game in Cincinnati yesterday, and I am
in a survivor pool. For those that aren't familiar with
survivor pools, you pay one fee and you pick one
team each week. And you can't pick them again. So
we're into Week eight and the Bengals were primed to
be my survivor pick, right because they're not a very
good team. But you get to pick a bad team
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against a much worse team, that's a great survivor pick.
On Week eight, so they were playing the Jets, and
I don't know if people know this, but the Jets
had not scored one touchdown in the previous two weeks
of play. The Jets were coming off this week where
Woody Johnson said that the quarterback can't complete a pass.
The Bengals were up fifteen points entering the fourth quarter,
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and so many random things happened to get to this point,
but the Jets ended up winning over the Bengals, and
thirty three percent of my pool and myself are out
for the year because the Bengals gave up five hundred
and two total yards to a team that had not
scored a touchdown in two weeks prior. They gave up
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a fifteen point lead somehow in the fourth quarter to
the worst offense in football. I can't think of a
more painful way to exit a survivor pool. Brother get
beat forty eight to three, just like the Falcons yesterday.
That was like quick and painless. They were never in
that game. They weren't gonna win that game. But the
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Bengals could not have put me through a worse experience.
I can't stand you, Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
That was awful.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I got one. It's pretty easy. And yes I watched,
and I've watched a bunch of times because I'm that
sick guy. But I just damn Scatabo getting hit. And
you know, I've heard people say that's that hip drop tackle.
I don't feel like it was the same. He's just
a hard one, right, Like, how do you bring down
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a guy like that when you're trying to tackle him
from behind? You can't horse collar him. I guess you
can grab his legs, but his legs are so powerful.
But his foot got caught onneath and he broke his
ankle and it snapped and it was nasty. But just
more the energy, the love for football, the love for
hitting people like he's he's the classic like football guy,
(28:05):
Like I just want to find somebody to hit him.
Not be able to play the rest of year sucks.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Just just saw a sweet from Jeff McClain covers the Eagles.
That Dom Desandro, you know security guy Dom for the Eagles.
They delivered pizza and cheesecake to Cam's Scataboo in the
hospital in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
It's crazy how how well liked and respected that guy is.
I even saw Eagles fans give him a hand when
when he was being wheeled off. Right, Eagles fans who
hate everybody and they don't care. Uh, don't hate cam'scattaboo.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Pizza and cheesecake but not cheese steak?
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Interesting?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Uh? Okay, what do you got there, Dan Byron?
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Well this I didn't like this. I don't know if
I hated this or not, but you guys know that
I've When Arch Manning was criticized for the opening loss
to oh Hio State, I said, I'm buying all the stock,
and I'll tell you what. It hasn't gotten much better
for Arch Manning. And even this weekend, when Arch and
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the Texas Longhorns are trailing Mississippi State by eighteen points
in the second half, Arch and the Longhorns come all
the way back to tie it and win it in overtime.
The only problem was that Arch got knocked out in overtime,
so we didn't throw the game winning pass, and the
game tying touchdown from Texas came on a punt return.
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But we're not talking about Archie, by the way, is
in concussion protocol throwing for three hundred and forty six
yards in three touchdowns in that win over Mississippi State.
So poor arch can't even reap the rewards of a
comeback victory in what has been a pileon season for
so many.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Where do you stand now, Dan? Where do you stand?
Speaker 4 (29:54):
I'm still in I will buy all of your shares, yes.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I mean, just to get the listeners up to speed.
Dan was like the first person on this network anyways,
one of the first people I saw, and I consume
a lot of content who brought up the notion that
the Saints would be tanking this season to make a
play for arch Manning. Now, Dan was saying this, probably
like last season or at the end of last season.
(30:20):
I thought it was an interesting take at the time
that nobody had really considered. But right now, is Archie
even going to come out.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Of this note?
Speaker 1 (30:28):
No, he wasn't gonna come out anyway, though.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Well, the last part of my I'm sorry, go ahead, Doug,
I was just gonna say that was part of my
argument because you can declare and find out who has
the number one overall pick. So if the Saints were
did have the number one overall pick, that there would
be a decision because of Archie's ties and the whole
family's ties to the city of New Orleans and the Saints.
(30:51):
And I will still stand by the fact that if
arch Manning was in last year's draft, he would have
gone ahead of cam Ward and he would be a
Tennessee Titan right now, which I know is not possible
because he's not eligible for the draft, but it's just
my thought process and how we looked at Archs at
the time.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
So it's kind of like Matt Barkley. Remember when Matt
Barley came back for a year, he probably would have
been the number one pick and then he like played
his way out of the first round and second round.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah, but Matt Barkley was aided by a lot of
good guys around him and him being the freshman quarterback.
We just assumed he was the next in line. So
that assumption maybe could be the case. But by the way,
arch could stay not only for next year, yeah, he
can stay in twenty twenty seven and still be at Texas,
which is something that Peyton and Eli also did in
(31:40):
staying longer at schools than we thought maybe they would
or could.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Right, right, And it's not about the money, like everybody
makes quarterbacks staying about the money. It's not with the
money of them. It's about being ready so that you're
ready to play right away. Yes, and again lost in
the Arch Manning thing was what a comeback? What a
comeback win? I mean, put up twenty four in the
fourth quarter, a come back force overtime winning over in Stark, Vegas.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I I also think I just think like Arch is
a good kid. Yeah, like there's there's he he didn't
have to be. You may feel that there's oversaturation of
the Mannings, but I think the Manning family is pretty
good family overall. And maybe you know, like he had
every reason he could have every reason to be you know, yes,
(32:27):
and he's not yep, yep, pair fair anyone else?
Speaker 5 (32:33):
I got one here, Doug, real quick, here my bad Sammy. Well, listen,
if someone showed up two and a half hours to
your home early for a party, I think you'd be
I'd be miffed personally. I first noticed one of these work.
What's that put in work?
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I just just like, guess, you're in my hair though
I just speak, I have to entertain you. Yeah, you
can put them to work, I guess, But then you
worry about, you know, if they're screwing something up. But
I first noticed one of these on October two wealth
and since then there's been a proliferation of Christmas theme
commercials in October. I don't remember growing up with I
celebrated my birthday a week from last Sunday on the nineteenth.
(33:12):
I don't remember there ever being Christmas theme commercials in
the month of October. If we were in the middle
of April and people started saying, Hey, let's get ready
for Fourth of July right now, I'd be like, what
are you talking about. That's two and a half months away.
I just I don't get. This is a recent phenomenon.
I love Christmas, and I love the holiday season. There's
a time and a place to celebrate these and kind
(33:33):
of forcing like sleigh bells and Christmas lights and stuff
down your throat for two and a half months. It
just really it really wears on me, actually kind of
makes me resent the holiday as a whole. So to
the people that are to the companies that are starting, listen,
you can sell whatever you want your store, but you're
starting the Christmas Them's commercials in early to mid October
and we have to endure months of this.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
I hate it.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
I'm out on that stuff. I do not like it.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
That's fair, by the way, Jay Stu, I know you
love this this date in history in nineteen oh four.
New York Subway launch launches nineteen oh four.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
It's like, did they have like the cold cut combo
or of the foot long meetball which is like eighteen dollars?
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Now?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Is it eighteen dollars? How much is it?
Speaker 5 (34:21):
No, it's it's like twelve bucks. I mean it's definitely
not five dollars anymore. Fullime over ten.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Dollars and that is eleven eight.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
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Speaker 1 (34:38):
It's the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Let's
check in for our weekly visit with our own GM here.
Tom to LESCo was a gentle manager of the Chargers
for eleven years, going back to San Diego all the
way through the move to Los Angeles. Of course, last
year was the GM of the Las Vegas Raiders. He
joins us every week here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. Let me start with the Jets, okay,
(34:59):
because if you go back to last week, their owner
comes out and says, hey, if we could just complete
a pass right clearly calling out Justin Fields. And then
Justin Fields is not particularly good in the first half,
and all seems lost, and then a funny thing happens.
Brice Hall. Uh yeah, Brice Hall ends up having a
(35:21):
spectacular second half and Justin Fields has a good second
half and they win their first game of the season. Tommy,
how do you how do you view Justin Fields here
with his third team in three years, just four years
in the NFL?
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Well, look, I think he is what he is and
if just for an office knew what they're getting when
they signed him. He's a dynamic athlete. He gets a
strong arm, and he's a really good leader in the
locker room. He's a good leader as a quarterback. He
has those skills. It's the pocket passing part of that,
the processing in the pocket that the decision making. It
(35:55):
hasn't been great, and it's it's hard at this point
of his career to keep in proving at that. Usually
at this point either have that or you don't. But
what I like, I mean, obviously you don't like those
comments that come from the owner last week. But it
does give the opportunity for the GM or the head
coach quite at GM in this this case, to sit
down with Justin Field and say, hey, look, I believe
(36:18):
in you. I signed you no matter what people think
inside or outside the building. It's a change that they
kind of get behind the player. I show your belief
in him, because, like I said, they knew what they
were getting when they signed them. So yeah, sorry, they
got Brice Hall. Bries hauled the ball a lot more.
He's a big time running back. And you saw the
team kind of rally around the quarterback. And obviously it
(36:41):
helped that the Bengals defense just really struggled in the
second half that they couldn't get any stops. But you know,
it does show you know this this is a people
business and as a GM or head coach, to get
behind your quarterback. Look, keep your starter, you sign them
for a reason. You know, he's not perfect, but he
can't help you win some games, and I think this
game a chance to do that.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
It's Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so
the uh, what's the difference in the injury report with
the Ravens and say the Jets, Right, because Aaron Glenn
was playing, Koy didn't want to name a starter, and
he said, it's just because I don't want to. It
wasn't because of actual injury. Right. Even though Torod Taylor
(37:26):
was coming off the injured list for the Ravens, we
thought Lamar Jackson was going to start and then he
was pulled at the last second. From as a guy
who's been in this league for thirty years, what's all
this mean?
Speaker 6 (37:38):
Yeah, with the Jets, their injury report with Torod Taylor
was accurate, and you don't have to name a start
or but you do have to be accurate with your
injury report in terms of what the injury is, what
his practice status was, and then at the end of
the week, what his gain status is. So this is
all about competitive equity and sports betting, probably more sports
betting than anything else, but there is a competitive equity
(38:00):
to it because there's an advantage gained if you don't
know who's playing. I mean, preparing for Lamar Jackson is
going to be a lot different than preparing for Cooper
Rusher or Tyler Huntley. So it's a big difference, but
brilliant reality. It's about sports betting. That's why the injury
reports started way back in probably the forties and fifties.
But it's so important right now because as you saw
with Lamar when his status changed, I mean the line
(38:25):
moved like six points or five and a half six points,
which is which is massive. So it's the responsibility of
the GM and or the head coach, not the head trainer,
and not not your PR director to be very accurate
with those reports. And we all know the rules. The
league is very stringent on it, and it just surprises
me for a front office that's been there as long
(38:47):
as they have that they wouldn't know the rule. So
because it's our job to know the rule, and like
for me for eleven years, like I did every single
every single injury report Wednesday Thursday for AUS and the
game status, I just felt like if very important, if
there's any mistakes, it'll come from me. But in that process.
You talk to the trainers, you talk to doctors, you
(39:08):
talk to the head coach, you watch practice, sometimes I
even talk to player. You do the injury report and
make sure it's accurate. So I would expect in this
case like there's gonna be some significant finds the club finy,
some finds to the head coach and or GM just
to show everybody the hey, this is important. It has
to be taken seriously because you know, especially the way
(39:28):
that the sports betting is right now.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
No question about it. Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox
Sports Radio. That's the voice of Tom Telesco, former gentleal
manager of the Chargers and the Raiders. He joins us
for a weekly visit here on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Scat about was having yet another impactful game. Then he
breaks his ankle. Obviously, you know you're worried about the
(39:51):
momentum where the Giants is just such momentum carried by
those two young players. But player wise, how do you
evaluate what a guy Dad's going to look like in
the future. When he wasn't the most explosive, he was
just incredibly physical, and you got to deal with the
fact that there's going to be a rehabilitation process when
that injury happens. How do you evaluate Cam Scattabo as
(40:14):
a GM.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
Well, you'll definitely want to see I don't know exactly
what the injury is yet and what damage was inside
his ankle. Most often he will come back at one
hundred percent if it was an ankle dislocation. I mean,
obviously he's going to be out for the year, but
he should be going to be back at one hundred
percent next year. Yeah, he's obviously a powerful, strong, physical
(40:36):
running back, but he also has and I hate to
use the word deceptive, but he has some lateral quickness.
He has some bursts in the hole. Does he have
the elite long speed down the field. No, he doesn't
quite have that, but he's shown even in high school.
If you used to see his high school highlights out
here in California, they're amazing. But even in college and
at the pro level, he still has some foot quickness
(40:58):
to make some people miss, and then he has the
body controlling the balance just to spin and turn and
get yards after contact. Yeah, you're gonna look really hard
to talk with your doctors about exactly what happened that
that is an injury that doesn't happen. It's not a
common injury, but it does happen.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
He should be.
Speaker 6 (41:15):
Back two hundred percent next year, that's the hope. He
brings so much choice and energy to that offense. Now
they're gonna have to pair him, you know, with another
back of a different style, and they have it a
little bit right now with with Singletary and Tarrow and Tracy,
but he's gonna be a bell cop to them moving forward.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
What's going on with Atlanta.
Speaker 6 (41:33):
Man, it's it's hard to understand. Their highs are high,
their lows are so low, and there's just no consistency
level with that. Now. Yesterday with with Kirk Cousins, obvious
the starter was out, he didn't have a strong game,
But that has just been so inconsistent, the ups and downs.
I mean, they beat Buffalo by two scorers and then
(41:56):
lose the forty nine ers team that's just really dined
up by two scores. So it's just been up and down.
Lots of the Panthers by thirty to beat the Vikings
by two or three scores. So there's got to be
consistency level there. They have a lot of tools on offense.
I understand yesterday Drake London was out and Kirk Cousins
was a quarterback, but they're hard team to figure out
(42:18):
right now. Now, the positive is, you know, their division
other than Tampa is weak, so they still have a
really good chance to move up and hopefully get a
wild card because they have talent on offense and defense
has a little bit inconsistent. But they've been a probably
the hardest team to figure out this season.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Okay, what about the Green Bay Packers? Are they the
first half or the second half? Packers?
Speaker 6 (42:40):
Well, I'm always looking at the full game and they're
a sixty minute team, and watching yesterday, I thought it
was just so impressive. You know, Pittsburgh is known to
bring a lot of pressure, a lot of blitzes, and
Love just just tore them up. I mean, his poison
a pocket, he had answers, and that la Floor had
answers for everything that the Steelers threw at him, and
(43:03):
he just tore up their blitzes. And they got a
great spark from the Emmanuel Wilson in the second half.
They can't run tard at two hundred and twenty five pounds.
He has some quickness of some bursts, but really physical player.
But you know, you get to a sixty minute game
Green Bays that the defenses gets going, they can rush
the passer Pittsburgh offensive line if you can get them
(43:25):
in a straight drop back game, which will happen if
you're down, and Pittsburg was down in the second half,
you make them pass protect a true pass protectors. That's
not their strength. And the strength of Green Bays defense
is getting after the passers. So you saw that show
up last night. The once the Packers got the lead,
you can kind of see how the defense can kind
of turn it over from there. But I was just
(43:45):
really impressed with with with Love last night. I mean,
he just looks so poised, so effortless in the pocket,
wasn't panicked with the pressure and playoffs standing.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Wells played a night against Commanders. They have won four
to the last five games. What do they figure it out?
Speaker 6 (44:01):
You know a lot of it's just that receiver. Obviously
getting getting right back is helpful. It seems like every
year Andy Reid's despagnolo. You know, the year may not
start off exactly as anticipated, and then they kind of
figure things out, They fix things on their run. And
this year's been no different. The Chiefs offense last couple
of weeks it looked like the old Chiefs offense, and
(44:24):
and but it's sometimes it takes a little while to
get there, but they've they've kind of picked it up.
But the defense is the one. Their defense has been
the one that's really been the major part of their
team that the last couple of years. And the defense
is playing a lot better right now than they did.
They even in the opening game against the Chargers, you
don't see as many any many receivers running free in
(44:45):
the secondary. They've got power pass rushers up front, and
Stagnola's outstanding with his schemes. So the fact that the
defense is playing better and then the offense is trying
to get some weapons back, I think that's been the
biggest step.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, it's going to be interesting. The Commanders team is
kind of sort of falling apart. Tom Telesco is our
guest here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Let's look ahead because this was a weird week, right,
Six teams on a buy. That's that's a lot. That's
a lot. Baltimore's trying to save their season against the
Miami team that just went how do you handle the
(45:20):
Miami thing right? Because tool was good yesterday, you know,
it was really good, but it's been such a mess previously.
What are your thoughts on Miami and how you handle that.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
Look the Miami offense early in the year, they were
doing some good things. They were converting our third Dallas
going in the red zone. We've seen to a play
at a high level. It just hasn't been this year,
but we've seen him play at a high level when
when they really get in rhythm, when you can anticipate
get the ball out. Not having Tyreek Hill is a
big deal right now. But the biggest issue for the
(45:52):
Dolphins has nothing to do with Dolphense is all about
the defense. They just can't stop anybody and that's been
a problem all year, with a bit of a problem
last year, and that's gonna be hard thing to fix
during the season because they just don't have the talent
on that side of the ball. So you're you're totally
relying on the offense to score enough points, which they
did yesterday. But look their offense with with with McDaniel
(46:13):
head coach, they're gonna figure out ways to move the ball,
but they just can't get stops on defense. And I
just don't see that changing right now.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
No, No, they can't, and it's bad. And he's an
offensive coach, and it just feels like they've lost the defense.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
They had Big Fangio there a couple of years ago,
and you know, Vick was the coordinator that defense. For
whatever reason, it didn't work out. It goes to Philadelphia,
and Philadelphia's back to where they've been on defense. But
I'm not pitting the doll on the defensive coordinator. But
they've made a lot of changes on defense personnel wise.
They let some homegrown talent out the door, they brought
in some free agents, they made some trades, but they
(46:52):
just hasn't had the continuity on defense to play well.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio Real Quick.
Uh uh uh So the Bill the Bills have the
Chiefs coming up next, and they finally played well, but
Ed Oliver tore his bicep. I think he's out for
the out for the year. Uh what does that mean
(47:17):
for the Bills defense, which had been struggling anyway.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
Yeah, he's a very good interior pass rusher. He's extremely quick,
and explosive inside, So they're gonna miss him. Typically with
that injury, they could possibly get him back for the playoffs,
depending on a couple of things. I wouldn't think I
would think he would be out for the regular season,
but hopefully they can leave the door open for the
playoffs and hopefully get him back. But that's been the
(47:43):
Bill's achilles field and they put a lot of effort
in the off season into upgrading the defensive line just
with depth, and just hasn't quite come together yet. I
thought they did a pretty good job yesterday against against
the Panthers. The Pentis have two extra running backs with
with Hubard and Rico Dadel and they kind of held
them in check. Now that helps obviously when you get
the lead that they had, I mean, the team isn't
(48:05):
gonna run as much, So that could be the answer
for the Bills is you just try and get the
lead as quickly as possible, and that would just basically
shut down the opponent's running game because he was not
gonna run the ball as much, and you can kind
of get into your just rush the passer mode. And
I know Joey Bosa had a good game yesterday, which
is always great to see. I love Joey as I
had him with the Chargers. But yeah, but the Ed
(48:25):
Oliver thing is it's gonna hurt him a little bit.
I mean, he's a little bit of an inconsistent player,
but his flashes are very high and he can really
rush the passer and he can chase things down with
range inside the tackle box. So but you know, this
is a really an offensive team. They're gonna have to
keep relying on that.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
You also watch a ton of of on the college
scene quarterback wise, Gosh, I gotta tell you, like, is
Mendoza the guy? Is he the guy that would go
number one overall? Like when you're evaluating these quarterbacks of
what you've seen, who's been the most impressive.
Speaker 6 (49:00):
Well, I haven't gotten into the details of it yet.
I have seen Mendoza. I thought he flashed them things
when he was at Cali, looked like an interesting player there.
I didn't study him, but just by seeing my TV
and he goes to Indiana, he's kind of showed a
lot of those same traits. I don't know if there
is a guy yet. And usually at this point, as
you get towards Halloween, you know that the top win
(49:21):
or two guys kind of just jump out and really
haven't seen that so far with this group. So we
shall see. I mean it's hard when we're a team
that needs a quarterback. Sometimes you start inflating some of
these players' values, and this could be the year that
it happens more so than ever. But he has some
traits as a pocket passer. He makes pretty quick decisions
(49:42):
get the ball out. He's athletic enough, you know, I
don't think he's gonna be a big time runner in
the league, but enough to get to Gray to where
he needs to go. But uh, there just hasn't been
that one quarterback that just jumped up and really jumped
out kind of you cam Ward at this point last year,
you could tell the skills that he had, he just
jumped off the screen, And there just hasn't been quite
anybody like that so far yet this year.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
How much of cam ward struggles you give you pause
over what he looks like long term?
Speaker 6 (50:09):
You know, it doesn't give me a lot of pause.
I think coming into the season, you knew they were
going to be ups and downs. He's the young rookie
quarterback who just doesn't have enough talent around him. Yet
offensive line is a strong enough. Yet they don't nearly
have enough weapons at receiver. I like Taj Spears at
running back, but they just don't have a lot there yet.
So the infrastructure isn't good enough. And then now you
(50:30):
take out its head coach and coordinator and now they're
all on transition. So I'm not so much worried about
it yet, but there's just a lot of work there
to do. I mean, when you have that many regime
changes and that many GM and head coaching changes, philosophy
has changed, investments and different players change, so they have
to get consistent and kind of and just start building
this and it's going to take some time. So yeah,
(50:52):
I'm not worried yet, you know, but it's just going
to take some work.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Tell me the best man, Love having you on the show.
Incredible insight from a guy who spend this entire professional
life in the league, appreciates being our guest on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (51:04):
Awesome Thanks Doreg. Take care
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