July 8, 2024 • 48 mins
On a Monday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug gives his honest opinion of Bronny James and his first Summer League game performance.
Doug and the crew share what they loved most and hated most about the weekend.
Doug welcomes NBA Insider Ric Bucher onto the show to break down Bronny's first game, the Lakers' off-season and all of the other major headlines around the NBA.
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
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(00:45):
hot all over the country. And uh, we have some
sports to talk about, believe or not. We've gone from
talking about the WNBA to NBA Summer League and the
second round draft pick.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
That's where we are right now.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
As we're waiting, waiting, waiting for some we got some
all star discussions to get to. We have more discussion
on what Paul George had to say in regards to
kind of in his mind letting us in on their
contract negotiations with the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But let's start with.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Ronnie James playing his first I guess professional game right
summer league game in Sacramento for the LA Lakers Summer
League team. And what I find to be interesting is,
you know, again how we do what we do in
the media, Like you've clearly aligned with a side based
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upon many of the much of the commentary, and as
I've told you before, in politics and in life, I
operate on the same premise.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I am a radical centrist. Now what does that mean.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
That means I don't feel like I need to always
side with one side, because that's what side I'm align with.
I do what I think, I think what I do,
and I try and do what I believe to be
the right thing on a daily basis, and I sometimes
I come up short. And when I took over this job,
(02:15):
I love the idea of going to be in the
portal because the portal is all college basketball players and
evaluating college players versus college players and levels of college basketball.
Felt like I was pretty quipped for what I didn't know.
If I was equipped for is the evaluation of watching
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a high school player and what he'll look like in
a year or two years or three years in college.
And that's something I think it's kind of an art,
but in terms of what a college player looks like
as opposed to other college players, and what a college
player looks like in his translation in his transition to
the pros, I feel like I got a pretty good
beat on it. So let me give you a radical
centrist perspective of Brownie games first game. It's it's called
(03:03):
j a g jag or a jag. Okay, a jag
is just a guy. That's what Bronnie James looked like.
I know, we could point to the stats and it's like, oh,
he was bad, he was not great, But it wasn't
because of the stats. It's because he's just kind of
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a guy. Now, Lebron has said, hey, I don't care
about the stats. It's about the development. So what are
you developing? What are you developing? What role will Bronnie
James have if he really really wants to make it
in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Here's Lebron doing a sit down with the with the
ESPN talking about.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Bronnie I don't know if people really understand Bronnie. He
doesn't care. I actually cared a little bit when I
came in. I wanted people to like like me, and
some of the things that people were saying about me
a kind of bothered me early on in my career.
I let it get to me. Ronnie doesn't. He doesn't
give up.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
He doesn't He does not care about.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Nobody's he doesn't even listen to that stuff. He's like
the complete opposite of his dad. His dad will say something, yeah,
Brinnie does not care like me personally. When I was
coming up, I had no choice.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I literally had no choice.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I had to make it out like I had no choice.
I had to make it out for me, my mom
and family. Ronnie has all the choices in the world.
So it's like a whole other people don't understand how
hard that is in the commitment for him to be
coming out of heart surgery less than a year ago,
for him to be able to be in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That's the kid is. He's special, but he doesn't care.
He doesn't. It doesn't bother.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I understand, completely understand, and you have to have that
sort of thick skin, And I actually agree with that,
the premise of, hey, you know it's it give me
hard to make it, even when you have all these
things that you're dispposed to be because there's no reason
for you to have to work hard.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Just isn't.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
If Ronnie never plays basketball again, he's fine financially fine,
not just working for his dad on his own.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So I actually do respect that.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I think that's one that people roll their eyes at,
and I would say, yeah, I get that a little
harder than people think.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You know, you always compared your debt.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
On the other hand, on the other hand, if you
look at it a different way, it's that you're right.
He doesn't play like he's trying to prove himself. He
doesn't play with the hunger, with the anger, with the
competitiveness that translates that looks like, hey, you want to
tell me you're a point guard, how about guarding the
point guard? How about picking him up ninety four feet?
(05:41):
How about making life living hell on that guy. It's
what so many people don't understand about basketball. You can
have a really high level high school defender come into
college and look like the kid doesn't know what he's
doing because it's a different level and a different sport.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Then you step up to the NBA and it's even
and the roles change differently.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
If you're gonna be six to one and a half
and you're gonna play in the NBA and you're a
backup guard off the bench, when that ball goes in
the basket and you're on offense and you switch the defense,
you better be up and guarding ninety four feet and
pressuring and just being a nuisance. Jose Alvarado is the
perfect example of it. You're always got head on the
swivel and trying to figure out where he is, what's
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he doing before you go and do anything, because you
think Jose Alvarado is gonna take this basketball from me,
and Broanni just doesn't have that.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Some of that is.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Can be tiresome in terms of some of the hunger
and need to get after it. It could lead to
thirsty plays if you will, But some of it, in truth,
is what you need and he doesn't have. Look, all
of that stuff Lebron can say is great. He is
a great kid. I don't care. I'm not evaluating based
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upon the type of human being he is. I'm evaluating
the type of player he is and he wants very
little to do with any sort of the backup point
guard duties, which include pushing the ball in transition, getting
your team into something okay, moving the basketball and guarding
ninety four feet and really pressuring and being the nuisance.
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It's it, honestly is. Ronnie has been watching real NBA
guys do it his whole life. He has been going
through the exact same process, but he has not and
he needs to play a ton, but he has not
played enough. The knee issue, knee swelling, that's all just
the team shutting him down for a day, giving him
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time to rest because they know Vegas is going to
be hard on him. But the actual analysis from coach gottliebiz,
I don't see any sort of desire to be at
either end of the floor. A point guard or league
guard just kind of wants to stand over in the
corner of the ball strowing not to him, try and
go get a bucket. It doesn't mean that he won't
(08:05):
be better in game two or whenever. That Game two
is just like Victor Webin, No, I'm a struggle in
game one, was fine in game two.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I don't care. You're right, I'm with Lebron.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I don't care about the stats, but I watched the
game and there was nothing dynamic about him defensively and offensively.
You know, a couple of times he got straight line drives.
Other than that, he just wants It's like he gets
the ball with the idea of mind, how quickly can
I shoot? How quickly can I shoot?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yes? Said Jason Tourrett.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Can we go back to what Lebron said about Brownny
doesn't care what you think and or doesn't give an
f what you think, Which is a side note, by
the way, Lebron taking what JJ Reddick said at his
press conference, he doesn't give an F. That should be
the Lakers model this season. We don't give an F
because they're probably gonna be like the ninth or tenth seed.
(08:54):
Right Anyways, Bronnie doesn't care what you think. Isn't Lebron
a little misled here? I don't think the criticism, everything
that's been written and said about Bronnie, I don't think
it has ever in an indictment on the kid as
a person, or his effort or anything like this. I
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always thought the criticism this whole time was about Lebron,
about Rich Paul and about this system that kind of
pushed this kid through who isn't really deserving. But it's
never really been criticism of Bronni himself. So when he
says he doesn't care like Lebron is deflecting right, because
the criticism has been basically targeted towards Lebron this whole time.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, I think there's some of that.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, there's a lot of it that's targeted towards Lebron,
and but there's a lot of it in which here's
my biggest issue with his group is that reasonable analysis
is called criticism. Okay, I mean to me, it's you
can analyze and be critical, but not have criticism. There's
(10:05):
no ability for anybody to ever improve. And like this
his whole thing with her, he's got to develop. There's
no chance you ever develop if you tell everybody, hey,
everything he did was great, Like, nobody develops that way ever. Ever,
what Lebron is guilty of is many people in our
business are guilty of that.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Hey, I want feedback.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Then you give somebody negative feedback, You're like, WHOA, why
are you so negative?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Like, dude, you want feedback? Right? Do you want a feedback?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Either?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You want to get better, you don't. Everyone says they
want to get better. Everyone says they want feedback, everyone
says they want to improve. But real improvement comes from
people who you trust, who you respect, who've been through it,
who said, like, yeah, I don't like that, like that,
this is not good, this gotta be better. This is
pretty good leading into that. But that's not how Lebron operates.
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He because he's been surrounded by sycophants for so much
of his life, he believes that everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Should treat Ronnie even that way.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
And while he's right, it is yet less the year
removed from heart surgery, the fact is that no other
player would have been drafted in the first two rounds
as a borderline prospect if they were coming off of
heart surgery.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
All of those things you want.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
To point to, it to nepotism or you know, just
unbelievable athlete advantage. I just that's not criticism in the
purest sense. That's reality. No one else would get that
opportunity other than Browny, and he only got that opportunity
because of your last name and because you push for it.
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closer and closer to training camp. I mean, I promise
you closer, Like can you feel it. I'm just I'm
(12:19):
I'm really really excited. And look, I just again, as
many of you know who listen to the show, I'm
the new head coach at Green Bay, which does give me.
I don't have like complete access to the Packers whatever,
but I've never been a Packer game. I get to
go this year, and I think they're gonna have an
exciting season. More than that, you know, I'm guessing we're
gonna come back and do Chargers camp and Rams camp
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as well as do Packers camp as well. But just
the idea of football feels like, you know, with all
the changes in college football, I'm excited for that we
finally have a playoff. I don't love the conference expansion,
but it is what it is. It does give us
unbelievable matchups, and I think there's a far less the
fear of playing somebody in the non conference has lessened
(13:01):
on some level because everybody's.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Gonna lose a couple games. I mean, no, noboy's going
on to feeding this thing.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
But football seasons right around the corner, and summer league
season is here. But we've definitely hit the dog days
a little bit. I'm sure you had a long weekend.
We did, Jason and I. We worked Thursday and Friday,
although Jay, you took Thursday off. Friday, we did, Dan Patrick, Moncy,
I know you worked all weekend long. I saw I
listened to your stuff and I saw it pumping up
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on the gram as well. And with that, let's get
to what we loved from the weekend. What we hated
from the weekend, something we call love and hate.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
What did you love?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
God?
Speaker 6 (13:38):
I love you and what did you hate?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
These Clay hay is ah love love love love.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Love is in the air. Love is in the air.
Let's start with you, Moncy. Some of you love sports
wise on sports Wise in the weekend.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
All right, I love and I a little bit hated,
but I actually love because it's my dad. You know,
some people just have like really good luck, like just
for some reason, just luck is constantly on their side.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
My dad might be listening.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
My dad, like a week ago, decided to go to
probably like Pachanga Casino as a couple of friends, came
back with with a couple thousands in his pocket. Okay,
And then yesterday he tells me that he bet a
twenty dollars four leg parlay on WNBA players, completely guessing.
I saw who he selected, Angel Reese, Kennedy, Carner, Carter
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Nekka Ogumkay and Juel Lloyd and this guy hit and
one couple hundred bucks. And I'm just like, I love
you Dad, slightly hate that all the luck is on you.
I don't have luck like this, Like I don't know
why life is not fair, and this is one example
of it. But I love it because it's my dad.
(14:57):
You see, I'm very conflicted. Go Dad, go make more money.
I'm very jealous of your Luckow.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
So the four leg parlay pays ten to one. He
bet twenty dollars. Bet he bet?
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Yeah, he bet twenty and I think he got like
two hundred and two fifty or something like that.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
But it's like he didn't know what he was picking.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
He didn't know these players he's and then the players
he selected are good, you know players. I was like, yeah, okay,
but they all hit and he like was like yeah,
so I guess it would start watching WNBA.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Now. I was like, well, there you go. Look at that.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
And how did he make his bank roll at Pachongo's
at the swaths slots?
Speaker 7 (15:30):
He loves slots, and his friends like left him there,
like his friends left and he sat down for like
a couple more minutes and then hit like, how unfair?
Speaker 6 (15:39):
God Dad, love you.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Awesome.
Speaker 8 (15:44):
I was, Sam, gotta go with the low hanging fruit here.
I got left it for you think you guys know
where I'm going here. Penalty kicks. I love penalty kicks, guys,
Because you're watching these international soccer matches, whether it's COPA
or it's the Euro Championships. A lot of time there's
just not a lot of scoring. You know, you get
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to a zero zero draw or a one nothing one one,
you really boil the drama of football of soccer. You
boil it down into its greatest drama with penalty kicks,
and it is so good. The drama is so good
it has changed my music up there. The drama is
so good. Penalty kicks, you're finally getting that goal scoring
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that you've been craving the whole game. And yeah, it's
just mono amano and it's just like face to face.
And I love some of the penalty kick sessions of this.
This weekend's on the soccer matches.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
So the are you talking about the penalty kicks to
decide these games?
Speaker 9 (16:42):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah, isn't that the doug Is that not consider the
worst way to decide a game? You have worst? You
have these countries, why train for hours and hours and
it comes down.
Speaker 8 (16:53):
Yeah, and they can't get the ball in the goal,
so then they got to go to penalty kicks where
it's like you got just the meat, that's nothing but me.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Oh, but it's such good drama. It's such good drama.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
It is good drama.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
And I just I think I think you're mistaken. This
is like the college football playoff rules where you're mistaken
good drama for good sports.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
You know, it's just.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Well, I can love it.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
The white flag like we couldn't decided, so you guys
apparently shoot.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
It out like well, it comes down like you're seeing
these goalies make a stand too, So it's it's not
just a given for the kicker.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Are they really making a center? Are they're just guessing, right, guessing?
I know, but it's awesome. But yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker 8 (17:37):
The anticipation and the way this analytics it's it's just
so good.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
It's the raw.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
It's not so good. It is not so good. Well,
it's a lot of drama. It's not so good. But
then you listen. You're allowed to love it.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
I'm allowed to love it, and I do love it.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I just don't want to get that's so much of
a departure from the rest of the athletic event. Like correct,
it would be like.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
ASA is playing on this gigantic pitch. Sorry, why did
I say pitch? It's not a field, Like, let's not.
We don't call it a lyft for an elevator, we
call it a we call it an elevator, So we
don't call it a pitch. We called a field playing
this gigantic field, and yet while we're going to condense
into one like well, then they kick to decide who
wins it.
Speaker 8 (18:19):
Then they they they're not doing enough of getting the
ball into the goal.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
There's all this running around, So keep.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Playing, keep playing for I love the golden goal.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
What's that sudden death instead of the golden goals? Golden goal?
Speaker 8 (18:35):
I like penalty kicks and I loved them over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
They're great. How about take out the goalie? Like, if
you really want to be gimmicky, just be like, all right, overtime,
no goalies, Good luck.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Guys, kind of like that one.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
I mean, it's just as gimmicky and the lame.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Well, we do that in college football, like hey, I
know it's on New York Field. Let's just play the
last twenty five no, and then after in second overtime
you got to go for two. I was like if
in basketball they said like, hey, listen, overtime, we're gonna
just play half court and then double overtime you can
only shoot threes.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
It's crazy because you know it ties stink, all right.
You need a winner and a loser. So we got
to sell it somehow.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Okay, Jason Stewart, something you love on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
So Mazi, she got me tickets to Friday night's Dodger game.
Thank you very much for that.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Good seas they went to.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
They weren't terrible.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I do not look at gift horse in the mouth.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Hold on, I do, I do, I know, I listen.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I love you guys, but if you give me bad seats,
I just I'm not gonna use it.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Sets No, you told us your you two story. You
went and saw you too, and you're like, I'm gonna
have to go back and see it again because my
free tickets were not good enough. That's what you said
to us.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Okay, so you two, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, those weren't
free tickets, but they weren't great seats.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
But anyways, I got to see something I've never seen
in person in my entire life. So I've been going
to games since I was what four or five years old.
That's a lot of games. I've never seen a person
hit three home runs in a game. Yeah, and Will Smith,
our catcher, hit three home runs in a game. It's
really hard for some of them by age to be like,
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I just went to a sporting an event and saw
something I've never seen before, and I did it and
the Dodgers won. And Christina was very happy that was
the most important part and it was a great night.
So thank you Monsi Bonsa.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
You're welcome. It wasn't it a Tawny's birthday?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Whose birthday?
Speaker 9 (20:35):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Tawi's that night?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Oh was it?
Speaker 7 (20:37):
I think it was his birthday? And he didn't have
it like a great game, but will Smith at three,
So I was like, oh, he did it for his birthday.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Good night, good night yep.
Speaker 10 (20:46):
July fifth, Oh all right, so my loved just this
weekend went to Summerfest, which is apparently the biggest concert
series in the world.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Is that right, biggest concert series in the world. I'm
gonna go with it because I was told that I
have not checked that.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
And saw Maroon five, and Maroon five is one of
those bands where you're like, I don't know anybody who
doesn't like Roon five.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I could be wrong, you guys. I'm Jason probably doesn't
like him. Do you not like him? To despise them?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
No, they have they have like a large catalog of music,
so inevitably I like two or three songs.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Sure, that's fair, Like you like everyone likes two or
three to ten of their songs, right, And he falls
somewhere in the middle. You know, and you know Adam
Levine from the Voice. He's crazy talented, right because he
like he does pick up the guitar and he can
clearly play it, but it feels like, hey, I'm just
gonna show off for a minute and has nothing to
do with the actual song being played.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
And we have regular guitarists.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
But nonetheless it's a great show. It was a great show,
and I started to realize something that all of those
kind of mid size city, downtown outdoor concert venues are
exactly like like I went to the one in Hartford
for I don't know, twenty shows, and the one in Milwaukee,
I think it's American Family Insurance something or other. I
(22:08):
shout out to the groupers David and Steven who got
us some tickets. Good seats, by the way, right, good seats,
not like ridiculous seats, not like I could see I
could read Adam's tattoos, but plenty good enough anyway. I
just it was awesome. And then that was on the fifth.
On the fourth, I sat out in the back of
my house and Green Bay, which is part of Lake Michigan.
(22:31):
When I tell you, I think there were fifty fireworks
shows of some some form that I could see. It
was like fifty and I just it was great, very great,
peaceful weekend. A little bit of baseball on TV, a
little bit of soccer on TV, a little bit of
no TV on TV.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I enjoyed that a lot of it.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Question about Maroon five, Yes, so my favorite song by
Maroon five is what Lovers Do. Yeah, here's the key though.
The key to that song is that's featured with Sizza.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
I was just about to.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Say, because it's not Yeah, I like says as well.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Was there She was not, But but they did have
the the other song with Carti as well, with Cardi By.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
They piped it in and well they.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Pipe in the vocals. I don't know if I like that.
I don't know if I like some random woman to
do it.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
You know, Sizza was there like the week before, so
she couldn't be there for that one, I think. So
it's a good show. All right, Let's get to the
other side. Let's get to what we hated. Okay, let's
(23:41):
let's go back saying what do we started, Monzie, let
me hate it from the weekend?
Speaker 7 (23:44):
All right, So this is I hate this and it's
happened at other concerts. I went to Blink one eighty
two on Saturday. It was at Sofi Stadium. And my
problem is when you go see like a like a
band or a group that has been around for a
really long time. If you have a new album, I
need you to play the hits. I need you to
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play Adam's song. I need you to play What's My
Age again? I need you to do those songs, even
though this is a tour of your new album that
you released in October. I get it, but they missed
out on so many hits from you know why you
have these fans because I don't think Blankwinity Too is
getting new fans.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Next to me, I have this like fourteen year old
girl that was there with her parents.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
She looked bored, her parents looked excited. It's like, I
need you to play the hits. I get it, this
is a new album, but play the hits. Played the hits.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
I hate that.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
So they actually went the entire concert without playing like
their top five songs.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
They did it, but they didn't play those.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
I don't know if they switch them around, like what
hits they play depending on the city.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
I don't know. I didn't look at that, but they
did not play those at so far.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
No, that's a big party though, Yes, why would they
play why would they not do that?
Speaker 6 (24:56):
I don't know, Like I was so you know, that's.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Like Dan Levittari show Back Going is on Trust to Radio.
It's like there's big stories of the day. They're like, no,
we're gonna talk about We're going to talk about have
some guy on talk about a zoo. It's it's play
the hits is as old an expression as there is
in all of the media, and it comes down to
f M radio. And I don't know why Blink didn't
(25:20):
play the hits.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
The hits and they did play some, but it was
just like you definitely missed on on some big ones.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
That we were waiting.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Which one did they miss on?
Speaker 7 (25:28):
Well, my favorite, which maybe not might not be a hit,
but dysent terry Gary, dysentery Gary, that is my absolute favorite.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Dysenteria's Yeah, you don't ever get dy that's where they
have to stick a vacuum up your.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Basically when you perpetual diarrhea.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
See, yeah, that's not it.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
The only reason we all know that, Mancy is we
are twice your age. And I guarantee that Jay Stu
is nod in his head is because there was a
video game we got to play in school called Oregon
Trail and half the time you would die from dysentery.
And then you ask teacher, what's dysentery, They were like, diarrhea,
you died from.
Speaker 8 (26:08):
Diarya you dehydration and yes, oh yeah that's an amba.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
I hate that too.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Yes, it's no fun.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, dysentery, Gary, I don't think that's an old one.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
That's the one they didn't play. That's got you.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Oh no, no, no, no, no no, that was that was
for me and I've seen them before and they played it.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
But did they didn't.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
They didn't do Adam song. They didn't do Adam song.
They didn't do going Away to College. Uh, they didn't
do like first date from the other album. Uh they anthem, No,
they did not do anthem anthem.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
They did. They really did focus on the new album.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
And then you know how they album which means time
a bear right right, and they don't do an intermission.
It was ninety minutes NonStop. They also did songs from
when they split up, and they like had their own songs,
so it was just like I like you and I'm
enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
The headline.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
They had an opening, but I didn't go to that,
but they did.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Have I understand. So they were the headliner.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
They were the headliners. Yes, nobody after them, No, they
were not nobody. They did do an encore song from
their new album.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Album You Have.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
I thought it was going to come in at the
end and.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
A yeah, you either start with all the small things
or it did.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Not end with all the small things. Trust me, work sucks.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I know that comes that.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
That also comes to not just the band, but also
there are people that you hire that put together your
set list.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yes, yes, and whoever did that, you should lose your job.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
And I just saw them like a year ago at
Bemo Stadium and it was all the hits. But this
was like advertised as their new album tour.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
But still that's great.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
You play two of them in the middle, everybody goes
to get some beer, just down for a little. Their
friends look at their cell phone and they get back
to playing the songs.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
As you heard. That's bad. Yep, it's bad. I would
say I'm sent me hate for the weekend.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
I wouldn't say I'm you know, full of rancor over
this but it is a bad look.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
It's absurd.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
I read over the weekend that justin Timberlake and Tiger
Woods are opening up a saloon in Scotland. In light
of everything that's happened recently, it's kind of a bad look.
That would be uh, it's not really that much of
a hate, but don't you guys agree it's kind of
ridiculous to be opening up a saloon. I know it's
been in the works, can't really change the dates of
when you tell people. But you're opening your Tiger Woods,
(28:32):
you're justin Timberlake. You're opening up a alcohol serving establishment
in another country which is known for its drunkenness. So
I don't know, it's kind of kind of uh, kind
of a bad look.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
It's not the best look. No, I don't know. I
hate it, but it's not the best look. Bad optics
of mid.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
Hat.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, okay, what about you, Jase dou.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
I saw this tweet and I sent it to tomasi
More because I wanted her to try to tell me
what it is. It's it's kind of I must be
in like new new age language. So somebody tweeted out
a picture of Angel Reese and the caption for Angel
(29:24):
Reese was I think it was something along the lines
of what exactly did it say? But anyways, it really
kind of bothered me, and I need an interpretation.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
You said it to me?
Speaker 4 (29:37):
What was up?
Speaker 6 (29:38):
You sent me something?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Yeah, I sent you. I sent you a screenshot of
the of the tweet. Oh oh oh, what does it mean?
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Give him the blues that one?
Speaker 4 (29:54):
No, it's uh, it's like he tweeted out the picture
of Angel Reese and said, I didn't even tell her
she could wear that.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
Yes, Mama, so fine.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
I didn't even tell her she could wear that. What
does that mean?
Speaker 6 (30:07):
It means it means.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
That they they think that they are in some sort
of relationship with angelries or that they Yeah, you know,
some people can dream, some people, you know dream and
uh you know.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
But I mean, is the is the insinuation that there's
a power dynamic and that I could tell you what
you were out of the house.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
It seems that way. It sure does seem that way.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
I hate that tweet. I can assume it. That's what
I hated, Doug.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Oh, okay, why don't you chance say what I hated? Man,
I'll tell you what I hated is uh, and this
is a little thing.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
It's the just something. It was so bad. It was
absolutely awful. I mean, we're just such a build up
to it, such an excitement to it, and you're just like, oh, yu, yeah, yuy.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
And they've done this thing with the with the new
Summer League where they played it in San Francisco. They're
playing in these big arenas and it's like, why, what's
the point. Just no crowd, no buzz, no energy, not
great basketball. I just I'm excited for Summer League in
Vegas that usually has really good injuries, especially night sessions,
(31:22):
especially when the Lakers play, that's gonna be great. This
weekend was not a good representation of it.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And that's eleven eight M.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
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Speaker 1 (31:42):
So one of the great things about players having their
own podcasts is they can, if they want, they can
share their perspective on their contract negotiations.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Paul George did just that. We're here from Rick Buker upcoming.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Bukuld joined us in about four or five minutes, but
before that, Paul George has his own podcast. He said
this about why things didn't work out with the Clippers.
Speaker 11 (32:04):
That's why I had to stop the negotiations during the
season because it was personal. Like that's how y'all view me,
you know what I mean, which is fine and all
of this. That's why it's no love lost, no heart feelings.
Like if that's how y'all view me, fine, that's cool.
Now I gotta go somewhere else. There's nothing wrong with that.
Then I hear whend of like, you know what they're
going to give Kawhi. So I'm like, just give me
what Kawhi got, like y'all view us the same, Like
(32:27):
you know, we came here together. I'll take what Kawhi got, Like,
no problem. I was cool with that. Now we're going
to negotiations. Now they now they bring it to three
years one point fifty. All right, that's cool. It sucks
that it had to get to this point like that.
They couldn't we couldn't get this figured out a lot sooner.
But now at the end of the year, three years
one fifty. So I'm like, all right, like now we're
(32:50):
in We're in the ballpark, you know what I mean.
Now we can have conversation here, I presented the three
one fifty no trade because in the meaning, they're like,
you know, we want you here long term, we want
to you know, when you're retired, we want you to
be a Clippers for a lifetime, like all of this stuff.
So I'm like, cool, give me the three years, one
fifty no trade. Then like no trade clock. Then I
(33:12):
now like I'm taking less at least I know I'm here,
like I'm committed to y'all. Like they didn't want.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
To get to no trade.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Wow.
Speaker 11 (33:18):
So then now I'm like, all right, well then it
only makes sense for me to do four years to twelve, right, like,
at least pay me my money. If y'all gonna trade me,
then y'all gonna trade me. But at least, like now,
I'm not in a situation where I could have got
more had I just gone to free agency. Then take
this deal and then y'all could just ship me wherever
I want. And then now I'm on this deal that
(33:40):
I didn't want. So they didn't want to do that.
So now I was like, now like, now I'm open
to entertaining what's out there.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
So what do they mean by all that? The first thing,
that's interesting is they did get to one fifty, you
know they did. They got to one fifty. That's fifty
million dollars a year. And the reason they didn't want
to go to the fourth year was that would put
him over the second tack tax aprin so, and they
didn't view him at the same level as Kawhi Leonard,
and I think that's fair. The only reason you would
(34:10):
judge him at the same level or above Kawhi letters
because Kawhi has perceptions and it's reality on many levels
of being.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Heard a lot.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
But Kawhi has is far more accomplished during his time
in the playoffs than Paul George's. We'll find out what's
behind that in a moment first, so let's get you
to Moncey Bologno's and get you a quick update.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Monci.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
You know, Doug, I did not like any of that
of what Paul George said about the contract with the Clippers.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
As a Clippers fan, I just I don't believe you.
Speaker 7 (34:44):
You literally got the three years one hundred and fifty
and what you just said, we don't view you the
same as Kawhi.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Whether you think that's.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
Fair or not, but you haven't delivered during the playoffs
when it mattered aside form maybe one postseason while you
were with the Clippers, and it's just so annoying.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
To hear it.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
It's just I look, I think I would I would
classified as unfair to say he hasn't delivered, only in
that you know, they just were never both healthy.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Yes, yes, the planned, but he is not.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
A carry a team on his own sort of guy.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
He has said that.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
He has said that, So it's like, what do you
mean you want the same as Kawhi? Like I I
he's left a bad taste in my mouth the last
couple of weeks, which is annoying.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
So let's welcome in.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
He's Rick Buker from Fox Sports one Fox sports dot
Com as well. Uh let's start with with the Brownie James.
He's played one game in Summer League. They shut him
down for game two. Uhi, what's your reaction to his
first first games performance?
Speaker 9 (35:43):
Reaction to first game performance is, I'm not shocked, not surprised.
I thought it was always going to be a tough lift.
It's difficult for me. I went to the I went
to Sunday's game. The level of play is just horrific.
(36:04):
I don't know, you know, talk to a number of scouts.
I don't know what you take out of watching that.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Level of play.
Speaker 9 (36:12):
It's fairly embarrassing. And so in the context of the
play being incredibly low and then Bronnie not looking very good,
it's it's not a first it's it's not a first
and a good first impression. All that said, you know,
first time out, the game is kind of floppy. It's
(36:34):
it can be difficult at times to look good in
those circumstances. I think the thing that troubles me the
most is the we've got a little bit of knee
sore ones after twenty two minutes and he can't play
at all the next game. That's that's not typical for
a second round pick. And if there was any question
(36:55):
that Bronnie is treated different than any of their second
round pick, that that would be. That would be what
I would look at as as added as added evidence.
It's just it's it's not it's a tilted playing field,
(37:16):
because no second round pick just trying to make the team,
just trying to even make the G League team is
going to miss a second a second game because of
because of me soreness and the other I'll tell you
the other thing that that disturbed me is the fact
that JJ Redick was not in the building. I saw
Kurt Rambus, and for a guy who's never coached before,
(37:40):
I don't need him necessarily on the bench, although Charles
Lee was on the bench for Charlotte, but at the
very least I'd like to see him in the building,
maybe behind the bench somehow involved, because I just don't
get the sense that people understand what a massive lift
that is going to be in the small term, in
(38:01):
the you know, in the small picture, for for Bronnie
James to actually get on an NBA court, and for
JJ Reddick to actually coach an NBA team.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
When I was told he was being shut down right
after the first game, that he wasn't gonna play in
the second, that.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Was pretty planned.
Speaker 9 (38:16):
And I had a scout tell me that.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
He did.
Speaker 9 (38:22):
He texted me and said, you know, they're trying to
cover for the fact that Bronnie didn't play, didn't play
well in the first game. And and my thinking is, look,
the kid didn't play a whole lot in college. He
only played one year. He started late because of the
heart surgery. He didn't start, he didn't play like a
ton of minutes, like he needs every minute on the
(38:43):
floor that he possibly can. And you live with whatever
it looks like. Particularly, I mean particularly as I said,
and in these games, look, it's not gonna be any
better in Las Vegas. It's gonna be it's good. There's
gonna be more eyeball and uh, and the level of
competition is only going to go up. So I don't
(39:04):
see how you find a path to making Bronnie into
whatever he's going to be without him actually being on
the floor and playing. It's not going to happen in
practice with the Lakers. I can assure you that.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, Doug otlip show here on Fox Sports Radio, I'll
give you something to watch next time you watch him play.
Watch how few at times he actually wants.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
The ball in.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
You know, when when the ball goes to the hoop,
you know he's not calling for the ball. He he goes,
he runs to the corner, and which again like they
don't get me wrong, that's what you teach guys that
are three and d guys do is to go and
run to the corner in space, and then you let
the guys that can really play off off pick and roll.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
You let them play.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
He will occasionally get it an attack and transition, but
he does not play and up defensively.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
You didn't guard to point guard, right, So.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
You know, Look, I think I've always believed that the
fact that he doesn't need the ball, he's not an
over dribbler, He's not necessarily an alpha. I actually think
that bodes well for him because you don't have to
have crazy talent to make it. I don't think he
has the size to do so whatever. But the fact
is that if they want him to develop, that's how
you develop. You don't develop by that one and standing
(40:22):
over the corner and ducking guarding the guy playing the
ball screen. So I just I'm with you on a
multiple fronts. We should also balance it with a last
year Wemby looked looked weak and didn't look like he
belonged in name one.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I would agree with you though, that this is we
have we don't.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
We had a track record with Wemby to say he
could play.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
We don't have that one right now?
Speaker 1 (40:46):
With with Bronnie, what about Lebron's comments in regards to Bronnie.
Speaker 9 (40:53):
Look, it's a father talking about a son, and I
don't know that any of us are objective about, you know,
fully fully objective about our offspring and what and what
they're capable of. But I don't know. It just I
(41:14):
don't want to be harsh, but it just it all
feels like propaganda. It's all propaganda, whether it's propaganda about
you know, the off season moves and I'm just going
to show up and I'm going to be ready and
then you know the whole I'm going to put my
jersey on and all of that. I just I can't.
I will say this, I don't know how people who
(41:35):
cover Lebron do it, because I I could not take
what he says and report it at face value. The
number of eye rolls or inadvertent laughs that I would
have when he says stuff, it just it wouldn't it
wouldn't last long. And so whether it's talking about Bronnie
(41:55):
or it's talking about the Lakers or any of it,
I just it just none of it feels authentic or
since it's it's it's the picture that Lebron wants to paint,
and there's a healthy enough media that will paint it
however he wants it. And and on we go. I
(42:19):
I just can't. I just can't do it anymore, especially
at this point. You know, it's it's we're still playing this.
You know, if they just put the right pieces around him,
he could win another ring. It's I did this chart
the other day, like they got ninety two, ninety three
million dollars wrapped up in Lebron in ad And this
(42:39):
past season was the first time that the two of
them both played seventy games. Prior to that, it's been
fifties and sixties. And if you look at the other
top duos around just the Western Conference there for the
most part, outside of Booker and KD and Phoenix, they
all make less and there are all duos that you
(43:02):
would take over this duo. So this idea that it's
not the core, that it's just they don't have the
surrounding pieces to be a championship contender is just not
looking at the reality of the situation and that so
it's it's really and I don't want like, I don't
want to, I don't want to disparage what Lebron is
(43:23):
because I'm I don't I'm not measuring him now, I'm
not measuring who he is or who he's been based
on what I'm seeing now. But I'm also not going
to pretend like Lebron is the same guy that he
was four or five years ago when when he was
arguably the best player in the league.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Okay, let me ask you this, what do you make
up Paul George's comments about how the Clippers.
Speaker 9 (43:49):
Low baldin uh smack Smack's a lot of what I
heard with Klay Thompson, ego, getting the way of what
is ultimately I deal for a player, and and letting
the negotiations and and what somebody offers you. It's negotiations,
(44:10):
and it's negotiations in a situation where the Clippers are
dealing with a new reality that Barbara can't just pay
any price, that there are restrictions that come with reaching
that second apron and and so and I heard you know,
essentially it's the same with Klay Thompson, Like you know,
(44:32):
they made an offer to me that was that was insulting. Okay,
I don't care about the first offer, what was the
last offer? What was the best offer? Don't let your
feelings get in the way of making the best decision
for you. And I'm just I you know, I hope
things go well for for Paul George and Philadelphia. I
(44:53):
hope to go well for for clay In uh In
in Dallas. But in both case, I feel like the
players in question were already in a better situation than
they put themselves in. I don't buy that than Paul
George at this point, whether it's his legacy or whether
(45:15):
it's his opportunity to go further than he's gone in
his career, that that is going to be served by
being in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Rick Buker, Fox Sports One and Fox Sports dot Com,
you're the best buick, Thanks so much, join us. You
got So there's a lot there to unpack with what
Buker had to say, But I look, I realized over
the weekend Lebron took what it mounts to a two
million dollar haircut, right, I was willing to take less. Well, yeah,
(45:44):
he kept him out of the second apron, But fine,
that's not really taking much. Like you know, and this
is one of those things where for Paul George, everyone
says they want to win, everyone says all those right things.
Very few people are willing to do those things. You know,
are you want to take a pay cut?
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Sure? Are you going to take a ten million dollar paycut?
Speaker 3 (46:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Okay, well then you don't really want to add somebody
and take less. Do you want to stay in LA?
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Yes? Will you stay in LA for you know, without
a no trade clause?
Speaker 11 (46:14):
No?
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Then you really don't want to, really don't want to.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
I don't understand the Paul George, Hey, I want a
no trade clause and then you end up signing with
a different team. Like that feels like something that was
incredibly negotiable, incredibly negotiable. There's a lot of steps being
missed there. But everyone says they want feedback. Everyone says
they're willing to do what it takes to win to win,
(46:42):
and very few people are. That's kind of my read
on it. You know, they all want to win, but
they want to do it their way. And I can understand,
Like if you've already won your Lebron James and you're like, yeah, maybe,
but I just what happens is I understand, let's just
(47:06):
start with Lebron and Bronnie. I understand what Lebron's saying.
It's like, look, you have to be impervious to any
of that outside noise. You have to not let it
bother you. The reality is all of it creates a
perception if Bronny can't play at this level yet, and
he cannot, and you clearly forced it to happen, regardless
(47:27):
of whether or not JJ Reddick is great or is
not great, knows who he's doing, is not, it just
creates a perception of like, yeah, whatever they missed in
the two million dollars shortfall they made up by giving
to Bronny, they're doing anything lebron wants. And people just
don't want to play on that sort of deal, Like,
they just don't do it. I don't nobody wants to
(47:49):
play daddy ball, play for guys who do son as
their player college or pro, and they don't want to
do it where the best player's son is on the
team and he's buddies with the head coach. That just
doesn't feel like culture that has its eyes focused on winning.
I don't think Brownie plays much except for, you know,
a game or two in the NBA. I don't see
(48:11):
any reason that JJ Reddick can't be a really, really
good coach. But the problem isn't the reality of it.
The problem is the perception of it. And as for
Paul George. I think he ended up at a great
landing spot. I think they overpaid him, but I think
he gets to be a two A or two B
sort of player with Tyrese Maxi and they got a chance.
(48:32):
The problem becomes that they're still dependent upon Joel Embiid
to be healthy and that's been a hit or miss
prospect
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hot all over the country. And uh, we have some
sports to talk about, believe or not. We've gone from
talking about the WNBA to NBA Summer League and the
second round draft pick.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
That's where we are right now.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
As we're waiting, waiting, waiting for some we got some
all star discussions to get to. We have more discussion
on what Paul George had to say in regards to
kind of in his mind letting us in on their
contract negotiations with the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But let's start with.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Ronnie James playing his first I guess professional game right
summer league game in Sacramento for the LA Lakers Summer
League team. And what I find to be interesting is,
you know, again how we do what we do in
the media, Like you've clearly aligned with a side based
(01:39):
upon many of the much of the commentary, and as
I've told you before, in politics and in life, I
operate on the same premise.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I am a radical centrist. Now what does that mean.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
That means I don't feel like I need to always
side with one side, because that's what side I'm align with.
I do what I think, I think what I do,
and I try and do what I believe to be
the right thing on a daily basis, and I sometimes
I come up short. And when I took over this job,
(02:15):
I love the idea of going to be in the
portal because the portal is all college basketball players and
evaluating college players versus college players and levels of college basketball.
Felt like I was pretty quipped for what I didn't know.
If I was equipped for is the evaluation of watching
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a high school player and what he'll look like in
a year or two years or three years in college.
And that's something I think it's kind of an art,
but in terms of what a college player looks like
as opposed to other college players, and what a college
player looks like in his translation in his transition to
the pros, I feel like I got a pretty good
beat on it. So let me give you a radical
centrist perspective of Brownie games first game. It's it's called
(03:03):
j a g jag or a jag. Okay, a jag
is just a guy. That's what Bronnie James looked like.
I know, we could point to the stats and it's like, oh,
he was bad, he was not great, But it wasn't
because of the stats. It's because he's just kind of
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a guy. Now, Lebron has said, hey, I don't care
about the stats. It's about the development. So what are
you developing? What are you developing? What role will Bronnie
James have if he really really wants to make it
in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Here's Lebron doing a sit down with the with the
ESPN talking about.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Bronnie I don't know if people really understand Bronnie. He
doesn't care. I actually cared a little bit when I
came in. I wanted people to like like me, and
some of the things that people were saying about me
a kind of bothered me early on in my career.
I let it get to me. Ronnie doesn't. He doesn't
give up.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
He doesn't He does not care about.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Nobody's he doesn't even listen to that stuff. He's like
the complete opposite of his dad. His dad will say something, yeah,
Brinnie does not care like me personally. When I was
coming up, I had no choice.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I literally had no choice.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I had to make it out like I had no choice.
I had to make it out for me, my mom
and family. Ronnie has all the choices in the world.
So it's like a whole other people don't understand how
hard that is in the commitment for him to be
coming out of heart surgery less than a year ago,
for him to be able to be in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That's the kid is. He's special, but he doesn't care.
He doesn't. It doesn't bother.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I understand, completely understand, and you have to have that
sort of thick skin, And I actually agree with that,
the premise of, hey, you know it's it give me
hard to make it, even when you have all these
things that you're dispposed to be because there's no reason
for you to have to work hard.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Just isn't.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
If Ronnie never plays basketball again, he's fine financially fine,
not just working for his dad on his own.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So I actually do respect that.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I think that's one that people roll their eyes at,
and I would say, yeah, I get that a little
harder than people think.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You know, you always compared your debt.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
On the other hand, on the other hand, if you
look at it a different way, it's that you're right.
He doesn't play like he's trying to prove himself. He
doesn't play with the hunger, with the anger, with the
competitiveness that translates that looks like, hey, you want to
tell me you're a point guard, how about guarding the
point guard? How about picking him up ninety four feet?
(05:41):
How about making life living hell on that guy. It's
what so many people don't understand about basketball. You can
have a really high level high school defender come into
college and look like the kid doesn't know what he's
doing because it's a different level and a different sport.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Then you step up to the NBA and it's even
and the roles change differently.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
If you're gonna be six to one and a half
and you're gonna play in the NBA and you're a
backup guard off the bench, when that ball goes in
the basket and you're on offense and you switch the defense,
you better be up and guarding ninety four feet and
pressuring and just being a nuisance. Jose Alvarado is the
perfect example of it. You're always got head on the
swivel and trying to figure out where he is, what's
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he doing before you go and do anything, because you
think Jose Alvarado is gonna take this basketball from me,
and Broanni just doesn't have that.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Some of that is.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Can be tiresome in terms of some of the hunger
and need to get after it. It could lead to
thirsty plays if you will, But some of it, in truth,
is what you need and he doesn't have. Look, all
of that stuff Lebron can say is great. He is
a great kid. I don't care. I'm not evaluating based
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upon the type of human being he is. I'm evaluating
the type of player he is and he wants very
little to do with any sort of the backup point
guard duties, which include pushing the ball in transition, getting
your team into something okay, moving the basketball and guarding
ninety four feet and really pressuring and being the nuisance.
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It's it, honestly is. Ronnie has been watching real NBA
guys do it his whole life. He has been going
through the exact same process, but he has not and
he needs to play a ton, but he has not
played enough. The knee issue, knee swelling, that's all just
the team shutting him down for a day, giving him
(07:40):
time to rest because they know Vegas is going to
be hard on him. But the actual analysis from coach gottliebiz,
I don't see any sort of desire to be at
either end of the floor. A point guard or league
guard just kind of wants to stand over in the
corner of the ball strowing not to him, try and
go get a bucket. It doesn't mean that he won't
(08:05):
be better in game two or whenever. That Game two
is just like Victor Webin, No, I'm a struggle in
game one, was fine in game two.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I don't care. You're right, I'm with Lebron.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I don't care about the stats, but I watched the
game and there was nothing dynamic about him defensively and offensively.
You know, a couple of times he got straight line drives.
Other than that, he just wants It's like he gets
the ball with the idea of mind, how quickly can
I shoot? How quickly can I shoot?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yes? Said Jason Tourrett.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Can we go back to what Lebron said about Brownny
doesn't care what you think and or doesn't give an
f what you think, Which is a side note, by
the way, Lebron taking what JJ Reddick said at his
press conference, he doesn't give an F. That should be
the Lakers model this season. We don't give an F
because they're probably gonna be like the ninth or tenth seed.
(08:54):
Right Anyways, Bronnie doesn't care what you think. Isn't Lebron
a little misled here? I don't think the criticism, everything
that's been written and said about Bronnie, I don't think
it has ever in an indictment on the kid as
a person, or his effort or anything like this. I
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always thought the criticism this whole time was about Lebron,
about Rich Paul and about this system that kind of
pushed this kid through who isn't really deserving. But it's
never really been criticism of Bronni himself. So when he
says he doesn't care like Lebron is deflecting right, because
the criticism has been basically targeted towards Lebron this whole time.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, I think there's some of that.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, there's a lot of it that's targeted towards Lebron,
and but there's a lot of it in which here's
my biggest issue with his group is that reasonable analysis
is called criticism. Okay, I mean to me, it's you
can analyze and be critical, but not have criticism. There's
(10:05):
no ability for anybody to ever improve. And like this
his whole thing with her, he's got to develop. There's
no chance you ever develop if you tell everybody, hey,
everything he did was great, Like, nobody develops that way ever. Ever,
what Lebron is guilty of is many people in our
business are guilty of that.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Hey, I want feedback.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Then you give somebody negative feedback, You're like, WHOA, why
are you so negative?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Like, dude, you want feedback? Right? Do you want a feedback?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Either?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You want to get better, you don't. Everyone says they
want to get better. Everyone says they want feedback, everyone
says they want to improve. But real improvement comes from
people who you trust, who you respect, who've been through it,
who said, like, yeah, I don't like that, like that,
this is not good, this gotta be better. This is
pretty good leading into that. But that's not how Lebron operates.
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He because he's been surrounded by sycophants for so much
of his life, he believes that everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Should treat Ronnie even that way.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
And while he's right, it is yet less the year
removed from heart surgery, the fact is that no other
player would have been drafted in the first two rounds
as a borderline prospect if they were coming off of
heart surgery.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
All of those things you want.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
To point to, it to nepotism or you know, just
unbelievable athlete advantage. I just that's not criticism in the
purest sense. That's reality. No one else would get that
opportunity other than Browny, and he only got that opportunity
because of your last name and because you push for it.
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closer and closer to training camp. I mean, I promise
you closer, Like can you feel it. I'm just I'm
(12:19):
I'm really really excited. And look, I just again, as
many of you know who listen to the show, I'm
the new head coach at Green Bay, which does give me.
I don't have like complete access to the Packers whatever,
but I've never been a Packer game. I get to
go this year, and I think they're gonna have an
exciting season. More than that, you know, I'm guessing we're
gonna come back and do Chargers camp and Rams camp
(12:40):
as well as do Packers camp as well. But just
the idea of football feels like, you know, with all
the changes in college football, I'm excited for that we
finally have a playoff. I don't love the conference expansion,
but it is what it is. It does give us
unbelievable matchups, and I think there's a far less the
fear of playing somebody in the non conference has lessened
(13:01):
on some level because everybody's.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Gonna lose a couple games. I mean, no, noboy's going
on to feeding this thing.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
But football seasons right around the corner, and summer league
season is here. But we've definitely hit the dog days
a little bit. I'm sure you had a long weekend.
We did, Jason and I. We worked Thursday and Friday,
although Jay, you took Thursday off. Friday, we did, Dan Patrick, Moncy,
I know you worked all weekend long. I saw I
listened to your stuff and I saw it pumping up
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on the gram as well. And with that, let's get
to what we loved from the weekend. What we hated
from the weekend, something we call love and hate.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
What did you love?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
God?
Speaker 6 (13:38):
I love you and what did you hate?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
These Clay hay is ah love love love love.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Love is in the air. Love is in the air.
Let's start with you, Moncy. Some of you love sports
wise on sports Wise in the weekend.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
All right, I love and I a little bit hated,
but I actually love because it's my dad. You know,
some people just have like really good luck, like just
for some reason, just luck is constantly on their side.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
My dad might be listening.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
My dad, like a week ago, decided to go to
probably like Pachanga Casino as a couple of friends, came
back with with a couple thousands in his pocket. Okay,
And then yesterday he tells me that he bet a
twenty dollars four leg parlay on WNBA players, completely guessing.
I saw who he selected, Angel Reese, Kennedy, Carner, Carter
(14:36):
Nekka Ogumkay and Juel Lloyd and this guy hit and
one couple hundred bucks. And I'm just like, I love
you Dad, slightly hate that all the luck is on you.
I don't have luck like this, Like I don't know
why life is not fair, and this is one example
of it. But I love it because it's my dad.
(14:57):
You see, I'm very conflicted. Go Dad, go make more money.
I'm very jealous of your Luckow.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
So the four leg parlay pays ten to one. He
bet twenty dollars. Bet he bet?
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Yeah, he bet twenty and I think he got like
two hundred and two fifty or something like that.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
But it's like he didn't know what he was picking.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
He didn't know these players he's and then the players
he selected are good, you know players. I was like, yeah, okay,
but they all hit and he like was like yeah,
so I guess it would start watching WNBA.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Now. I was like, well, there you go. Look at that.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
And how did he make his bank roll at Pachongo's
at the swaths slots?
Speaker 7 (15:30):
He loves slots, and his friends like left him there,
like his friends left and he sat down for like
a couple more minutes and then hit like, how unfair?
Speaker 6 (15:39):
God Dad, love you.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Awesome.
Speaker 8 (15:44):
I was, Sam, gotta go with the low hanging fruit here.
I got left it for you think you guys know
where I'm going here. Penalty kicks. I love penalty kicks, guys,
Because you're watching these international soccer matches, whether it's COPA
or it's the Euro Championships. A lot of time there's
just not a lot of scoring. You know, you get
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to a zero zero draw or a one nothing one one,
you really boil the drama of football of soccer. You
boil it down into its greatest drama with penalty kicks,
and it is so good. The drama is so good
it has changed my music up there. The drama is
so good. Penalty kicks, you're finally getting that goal scoring
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that you've been craving the whole game. And yeah, it's
just mono amano and it's just like face to face.
And I love some of the penalty kick sessions of this.
This weekend's on the soccer matches.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
So the are you talking about the penalty kicks to
decide these games?
Speaker 9 (16:42):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah, isn't that the doug Is that not consider the
worst way to decide a game? You have worst? You
have these countries, why train for hours and hours and
it comes down.
Speaker 8 (16:53):
Yeah, and they can't get the ball in the goal,
so then they got to go to penalty kicks where
it's like you got just the meat, that's nothing but me.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Oh, but it's such good drama. It's such good drama.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
It is good drama.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
And I just I think I think you're mistaken. This
is like the college football playoff rules where you're mistaken
good drama for good sports.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
You know, it's just.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Well, I can love it.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
The white flag like we couldn't decided, so you guys
apparently shoot.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
It out like well, it comes down like you're seeing
these goalies make a stand too, So it's it's not
just a given for the kicker.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Are they really making a center? Are they're just guessing, right, guessing?
I know, but it's awesome. But yeah, it's awesome.
Speaker 8 (17:37):
The anticipation and the way this analytics it's it's just
so good.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
It's the raw.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
It's not so good. It is not so good. Well,
it's a lot of drama. It's not so good. But
then you listen. You're allowed to love it.
Speaker 8 (17:51):
I'm allowed to love it, and I do love it.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I just don't want to get that's so much of
a departure from the rest of the athletic event. Like correct,
it would be like.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
ASA is playing on this gigantic pitch. Sorry, why did
I say pitch? It's not a field, Like, let's not.
We don't call it a lyft for an elevator, we
call it a we call it an elevator, So we
don't call it a pitch. We called a field playing
this gigantic field, and yet while we're going to condense
into one like well, then they kick to decide who
wins it.
Speaker 8 (18:19):
Then they they they're not doing enough of getting the
ball into the goal.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
There's all this running around, So keep.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Playing, keep playing for I love the golden goal.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
What's that sudden death instead of the golden goals? Golden goal?
Speaker 8 (18:35):
I like penalty kicks and I loved them over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
They're great. How about take out the goalie? Like, if
you really want to be gimmicky, just be like, all right, overtime,
no goalies, Good luck.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Guys, kind of like that one.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
I mean, it's just as gimmicky and the lame.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Well, we do that in college football, like hey, I
know it's on New York Field. Let's just play the
last twenty five no, and then after in second overtime
you got to go for two. I was like if
in basketball they said like, hey, listen, overtime, we're gonna
just play half court and then double overtime you can
only shoot threes.
Speaker 8 (19:08):
It's crazy because you know it ties stink, all right.
You need a winner and a loser. So we got
to sell it somehow.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Okay, Jason Stewart, something you love on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
So Mazi, she got me tickets to Friday night's Dodger game.
Thank you very much for that.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Good seas they went to.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
They weren't terrible.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I do not look at gift horse in the mouth.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Hold on, I do, I do, I know, I listen.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I love you guys, but if you give me bad seats,
I just I'm not gonna use it.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Sets No, you told us your you two story. You
went and saw you too, and you're like, I'm gonna
have to go back and see it again because my
free tickets were not good enough. That's what you said
to us.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Okay, so you two, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, those weren't
free tickets, but they weren't great seats.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
But anyways, I got to see something I've never seen
in person in my entire life. So I've been going
to games since I was what four or five years old.
That's a lot of games. I've never seen a person
hit three home runs in a game. Yeah, and Will Smith,
our catcher, hit three home runs in a game. It's
really hard for some of them by age to be like,
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I just went to a sporting an event and saw
something I've never seen before, and I did it and
the Dodgers won. And Christina was very happy that was
the most important part and it was a great night.
So thank you Monsi Bonsa.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
You're welcome. It wasn't it a Tawny's birthday?
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Whose birthday?
Speaker 9 (20:35):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Tawi's that night?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Oh was it?
Speaker 7 (20:37):
I think it was his birthday? And he didn't have
it like a great game, but will Smith at three,
So I was like, oh, he did it for his birthday.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Good night, good night yep.
Speaker 10 (20:46):
July fifth, Oh all right, so my loved just this
weekend went to Summerfest, which is apparently the biggest concert
series in the world.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Is that right, biggest concert series in the world. I'm
gonna go with it because I was told that I
have not checked that.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
And saw Maroon five, and Maroon five is one of
those bands where you're like, I don't know anybody who
doesn't like Roon five.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I could be wrong, you guys. I'm Jason probably doesn't
like him. Do you not like him? To despise them?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
No, they have they have like a large catalog of music,
so inevitably I like two or three songs.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Sure, that's fair, Like you like everyone likes two or
three to ten of their songs, right, And he falls
somewhere in the middle. You know, and you know Adam
Levine from the Voice. He's crazy talented, right because he
like he does pick up the guitar and he can
clearly play it, but it feels like, hey, I'm just
gonna show off for a minute and has nothing to
do with the actual song being played.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
And we have regular guitarists.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
But nonetheless it's a great show. It was a great show,
and I started to realize something that all of those
kind of mid size city, downtown outdoor concert venues are
exactly like like I went to the one in Hartford
for I don't know, twenty shows, and the one in Milwaukee,
I think it's American Family Insurance something or other. I
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shout out to the groupers David and Steven who got
us some tickets. Good seats, by the way, right, good seats,
not like ridiculous seats, not like I could see I
could read Adam's tattoos, but plenty good enough anyway. I
just it was awesome. And then that was on the fifth.
On the fourth, I sat out in the back of
my house and Green Bay, which is part of Lake Michigan.
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When I tell you, I think there were fifty fireworks
shows of some some form that I could see. It
was like fifty and I just it was great, very great,
peaceful weekend. A little bit of baseball on TV, a
little bit of soccer on TV, a little bit of
no TV on TV.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I enjoyed that a lot of it.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Question about Maroon five, Yes, so my favorite song by
Maroon five is what Lovers Do. Yeah, here's the key though.
The key to that song is that's featured with Sizza.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
I was just about to.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Say, because it's not Yeah, I like says as well.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Was there She was not, But but they did have
the the other song with Carti as well, with Cardi By.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
They piped it in and well they.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Pipe in the vocals. I don't know if I like that.
I don't know if I like some random woman to
do it.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
You know, Sizza was there like the week before, so
she couldn't be there for that one, I think. So
it's a good show. All right, Let's get to the
other side. Let's get to what we hated. Okay, let's
(23:41):
let's go back saying what do we started, Monzie, let
me hate it from the weekend?
Speaker 7 (23:44):
All right, So this is I hate this and it's
happened at other concerts. I went to Blink one eighty
two on Saturday. It was at Sofi Stadium. And my
problem is when you go see like a like a
band or a group that has been around for a
really long time. If you have a new album, I
need you to play the hits. I need you to
(24:04):
play Adam's song. I need you to play What's My
Age again? I need you to do those songs, even
though this is a tour of your new album that
you released in October. I get it, but they missed
out on so many hits from you know why you
have these fans because I don't think Blankwinity Too is
getting new fans.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Next to me, I have this like fourteen year old
girl that was there with her parents.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
She looked bored, her parents looked excited. It's like, I
need you to play the hits. I get it, this
is a new album, but play the hits. Played the hits.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
I hate that.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
So they actually went the entire concert without playing like
their top five songs.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
They did it, but they didn't play those.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
I don't know if they switch them around, like what
hits they play depending on the city.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
I don't know. I didn't look at that, but they
did not play those at so far.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
No, that's a big party though, Yes, why would they
play why would they not do that?
Speaker 6 (24:56):
I don't know, Like I was so you know, that's.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Like Dan Levittari show Back Going is on Trust to Radio.
It's like there's big stories of the day. They're like, no,
we're gonna talk about We're going to talk about have
some guy on talk about a zoo. It's it's play
the hits is as old an expression as there is
in all of the media, and it comes down to
f M radio. And I don't know why Blink didn't
(25:20):
play the hits.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
The hits and they did play some, but it was
just like you definitely missed on on some big ones.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
That we were waiting.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Which one did they miss on?
Speaker 7 (25:28):
Well, my favorite, which maybe not might not be a hit,
but dysent terry Gary, dysentery Gary, that is my absolute favorite.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Dysenteria's Yeah, you don't ever get dy that's where they
have to stick a vacuum up your.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Basically when you perpetual diarrhea.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
See, yeah, that's not it.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
The only reason we all know that, Mancy is we
are twice your age. And I guarantee that Jay Stu
is nod in his head is because there was a
video game we got to play in school called Oregon
Trail and half the time you would die from dysentery.
And then you ask teacher, what's dysentery, They were like, diarrhea,
you died from.
Speaker 8 (26:08):
Diarya you dehydration and yes, oh yeah that's an amba.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
I hate that too.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Yes, it's no fun.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, dysentery, Gary, I don't think that's an old one.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
That's the one they didn't play. That's got you.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
Oh no, no, no, no, no no, that was that was
for me and I've seen them before and they played it.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
But did they didn't.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
They didn't do Adam song. They didn't do Adam song.
They didn't do going Away to College. Uh, they didn't
do like first date from the other album. Uh they anthem, No,
they did not do anthem anthem.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
They did. They really did focus on the new album.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
And then you know how they album which means time
a bear right right, and they don't do an intermission.
It was ninety minutes NonStop. They also did songs from
when they split up, and they like had their own songs,
so it was just like I like you and I'm
enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
The headline.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
They had an opening, but I didn't go to that,
but they did.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Have I understand. So they were the headliner.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
They were the headliners. Yes, nobody after them, No, they
were not nobody. They did do an encore song from
their new album.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Album You Have.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
I thought it was going to come in at the
end and.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
A yeah, you either start with all the small things
or it did.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Not end with all the small things. Trust me, work sucks.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I know that comes that.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
That also comes to not just the band, but also
there are people that you hire that put together your
set list.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yes, yes, and whoever did that, you should lose your job.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
And I just saw them like a year ago at
Bemo Stadium and it was all the hits. But this
was like advertised as their new album tour.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
But still that's great.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
You play two of them in the middle, everybody goes
to get some beer, just down for a little. Their
friends look at their cell phone and they get back
to playing the songs.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
As you heard. That's bad. Yep, it's bad. I would
say I'm sent me hate for the weekend.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
I wouldn't say I'm you know, full of rancor over
this but it is a bad look.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
It's absurd.
Speaker 8 (28:10):
I read over the weekend that justin Timberlake and Tiger
Woods are opening up a saloon in Scotland. In light
of everything that's happened recently, it's kind of a bad look.
That would be uh, it's not really that much of
a hate, but don't you guys agree it's kind of
ridiculous to be opening up a saloon. I know it's
been in the works, can't really change the dates of
when you tell people. But you're opening your Tiger Woods,
(28:32):
you're justin Timberlake. You're opening up a alcohol serving establishment
in another country which is known for its drunkenness. So
I don't know, it's kind of kind of uh, kind
of a bad look.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
It's not the best look. No, I don't know. I
hate it, but it's not the best look. Bad optics
of mid.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
Hat.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, okay, what about you, Jase dou.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
I saw this tweet and I sent it to tomasi
More because I wanted her to try to tell me
what it is. It's it's kind of I must be
in like new new age language. So somebody tweeted out
a picture of Angel Reese and the caption for Angel
(29:24):
Reese was I think it was something along the lines
of what exactly did it say? But anyways, it really
kind of bothered me, and I need an interpretation.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
You said it to me?
Speaker 4 (29:37):
What was up?
Speaker 6 (29:38):
You sent me something?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Yeah, I sent you. I sent you a screenshot of
the of the tweet. Oh oh oh, what does it mean?
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Give him the blues that one?
Speaker 4 (29:54):
No, it's uh, it's like he tweeted out the picture
of Angel Reese and said, I didn't even tell her
she could wear that.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
Yes, Mama, so fine.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
I didn't even tell her she could wear that. What
does that mean?
Speaker 6 (30:07):
It means it means.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
That they they think that they are in some sort
of relationship with angelries or that they Yeah, you know,
some people can dream, some people, you know dream and
uh you know.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
But I mean, is the is the insinuation that there's
a power dynamic and that I could tell you what
you were out of the house.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
It seems that way. It sure does seem that way.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
I hate that tweet. I can assume it. That's what
I hated, Doug.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Oh, okay, why don't you chance say what I hated? Man,
I'll tell you what I hated is uh, and this
is a little thing.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
It's the just something. It was so bad. It was
absolutely awful. I mean, we're just such a build up
to it, such an excitement to it, and you're just like, oh, yu, yeah, yuy.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
And they've done this thing with the with the new
Summer League where they played it in San Francisco. They're
playing in these big arenas and it's like, why, what's
the point. Just no crowd, no buzz, no energy, not
great basketball. I just I'm excited for Summer League in
Vegas that usually has really good injuries, especially night sessions,
(31:22):
especially when the Lakers play, that's gonna be great. This
weekend was not a good representation of it.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And that's eleven eight M.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
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Speaker 1 (31:42):
So one of the great things about players having their
own podcasts is they can, if they want, they can
share their perspective on their contract negotiations.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Paul George did just that. We're here from Rick Buker upcoming.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Bukuld joined us in about four or five minutes, but
before that, Paul George has his own podcast. He said
this about why things didn't work out with the Clippers.
Speaker 11 (32:04):
That's why I had to stop the negotiations during the
season because it was personal. Like that's how y'all view me,
you know what I mean, which is fine and all
of this. That's why it's no love lost, no heart feelings.
Like if that's how y'all view me, fine, that's cool.
Now I gotta go somewhere else. There's nothing wrong with that.
Then I hear whend of like, you know what they're
going to give Kawhi. So I'm like, just give me
what Kawhi got, like y'all view us the same, Like
(32:27):
you know, we came here together. I'll take what Kawhi got, Like,
no problem. I was cool with that. Now we're going
to negotiations. Now they now they bring it to three
years one point fifty. All right, that's cool. It sucks
that it had to get to this point like that.
They couldn't we couldn't get this figured out a lot sooner.
But now at the end of the year, three years
one fifty. So I'm like, all right, like now we're
(32:50):
in We're in the ballpark, you know what I mean.
Now we can have conversation here, I presented the three
one fifty no trade because in the meaning, they're like,
you know, we want you here long term, we want
to you know, when you're retired, we want you to
be a Clippers for a lifetime, like all of this stuff.
So I'm like, cool, give me the three years, one
fifty no trade. Then like no trade clock. Then I
(33:12):
now like I'm taking less at least I know I'm here,
like I'm committed to y'all. Like they didn't want.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
To get to no trade.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Wow.
Speaker 11 (33:18):
So then now I'm like, all right, well then it
only makes sense for me to do four years to twelve, right, like,
at least pay me my money. If y'all gonna trade me,
then y'all gonna trade me. But at least, like now,
I'm not in a situation where I could have got
more had I just gone to free agency. Then take
this deal and then y'all could just ship me wherever
I want. And then now I'm on this deal that
(33:40):
I didn't want. So they didn't want to do that.
So now I was like, now like, now I'm open
to entertaining what's out there.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
So what do they mean by all that? The first thing,
that's interesting is they did get to one fifty, you
know they did. They got to one fifty. That's fifty
million dollars a year. And the reason they didn't want
to go to the fourth year was that would put
him over the second tack tax aprin so, and they
didn't view him at the same level as Kawhi Leonard,
and I think that's fair. The only reason you would
(34:10):
judge him at the same level or above Kawhi letters
because Kawhi has perceptions and it's reality on many levels
of being.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Heard a lot.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
But Kawhi has is far more accomplished during his time
in the playoffs than Paul George's. We'll find out what's
behind that in a moment first, so let's get you
to Moncey Bologno's and get you a quick update.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Monci.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
You know, Doug, I did not like any of that
of what Paul George said about the contract with the Clippers.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
As a Clippers fan, I just I don't believe you.
Speaker 7 (34:44):
You literally got the three years one hundred and fifty
and what you just said, we don't view you the
same as Kawhi.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
Whether you think that's.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
Fair or not, but you haven't delivered during the playoffs
when it mattered aside form maybe one postseason while you
were with the Clippers, and it's just so annoying.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
To hear it.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
It's just I look, I think I would I would
classified as unfair to say he hasn't delivered, only in
that you know, they just were never both healthy.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Yes, yes, the planned, but he is not.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
A carry a team on his own sort of guy.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
He has said that.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
He has said that, So it's like, what do you
mean you want the same as Kawhi? Like I I
he's left a bad taste in my mouth the last
couple of weeks, which is annoying.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
So let's welcome in.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
He's Rick Buker from Fox Sports one Fox sports dot
Com as well. Uh let's start with with the Brownie James.
He's played one game in Summer League. They shut him
down for game two. Uhi, what's your reaction to his
first first games performance?
Speaker 9 (35:43):
Reaction to first game performance is, I'm not shocked, not surprised.
I thought it was always going to be a tough lift.
It's difficult for me. I went to the I went
to Sunday's game. The level of play is just horrific.
(36:04):
I don't know, you know, talk to a number of scouts.
I don't know what you take out of watching that.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Level of play.
Speaker 9 (36:12):
It's fairly embarrassing. And so in the context of the
play being incredibly low and then Bronnie not looking very good,
it's it's not a first it's it's not a first
and a good first impression. All that said, you know,
first time out, the game is kind of floppy. It's
(36:34):
it can be difficult at times to look good in
those circumstances. I think the thing that troubles me the
most is the we've got a little bit of knee
sore ones after twenty two minutes and he can't play
at all the next game. That's that's not typical for
a second round pick. And if there was any question
(36:55):
that Bronnie is treated different than any of their second
round pick, that that would be. That would be what
I would look at as as added as added evidence.
It's just it's it's not it's a tilted playing field,
(37:16):
because no second round pick just trying to make the team,
just trying to even make the G League team is
going to miss a second a second game because of
because of me soreness and the other I'll tell you
the other thing that that disturbed me is the fact
that JJ Redick was not in the building. I saw
Kurt Rambus, and for a guy who's never coached before,
(37:40):
I don't need him necessarily on the bench, although Charles
Lee was on the bench for Charlotte, but at the
very least I'd like to see him in the building,
maybe behind the bench somehow involved, because I just don't
get the sense that people understand what a massive lift
that is going to be in the small term, in
(38:01):
the you know, in the small picture, for for Bronnie
James to actually get on an NBA court, and for
JJ Reddick to actually coach an NBA team.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
When I was told he was being shut down right
after the first game, that he wasn't gonna play in
the second, that.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Was pretty planned.
Speaker 9 (38:16):
And I had a scout tell me that.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
He did.
Speaker 9 (38:22):
He texted me and said, you know, they're trying to
cover for the fact that Bronnie didn't play, didn't play
well in the first game. And and my thinking is, look,
the kid didn't play a whole lot in college. He
only played one year. He started late because of the
heart surgery. He didn't start, he didn't play like a
ton of minutes, like he needs every minute on the
(38:43):
floor that he possibly can. And you live with whatever
it looks like. Particularly, I mean particularly as I said,
and in these games, look, it's not gonna be any
better in Las Vegas. It's gonna be it's good. There's
gonna be more eyeball and uh, and the level of
competition is only going to go up. So I don't
(39:04):
see how you find a path to making Bronnie into
whatever he's going to be without him actually being on
the floor and playing. It's not going to happen in
practice with the Lakers. I can assure you that.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, Doug otlip show here on Fox Sports Radio, I'll
give you something to watch next time you watch him play.
Watch how few at times he actually wants.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
The ball in.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
You know, when when the ball goes to the hoop,
you know he's not calling for the ball. He he goes,
he runs to the corner, and which again like they
don't get me wrong, that's what you teach guys that
are three and d guys do is to go and
run to the corner in space, and then you let
the guys that can really play off off pick and roll.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
You let them play.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
He will occasionally get it an attack and transition, but
he does not play and up defensively.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
You didn't guard to point guard, right, So.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
You know, Look, I think I've always believed that the
fact that he doesn't need the ball, he's not an
over dribbler, He's not necessarily an alpha. I actually think
that bodes well for him because you don't have to
have crazy talent to make it. I don't think he
has the size to do so whatever. But the fact
is that if they want him to develop, that's how
you develop. You don't develop by that one and standing
(40:22):
over the corner and ducking guarding the guy playing the
ball screen. So I just I'm with you on a
multiple fronts. We should also balance it with a last
year Wemby looked looked weak and didn't look like he
belonged in name one.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I would agree with you though, that this is we
have we don't.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
We had a track record with Wemby to say he
could play.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
We don't have that one right now?
Speaker 1 (40:46):
With with Bronnie, what about Lebron's comments in regards to Bronnie.
Speaker 9 (40:53):
Look, it's a father talking about a son, and I
don't know that any of us are objective about, you know,
fully fully objective about our offspring and what and what
they're capable of. But I don't know. It just I
(41:14):
don't want to be harsh, but it just it all
feels like propaganda. It's all propaganda, whether it's propaganda about
you know, the off season moves and I'm just going
to show up and I'm going to be ready and
then you know the whole I'm going to put my
jersey on and all of that. I just I can't.
I will say this, I don't know how people who
(41:35):
cover Lebron do it, because I I could not take
what he says and report it at face value. The
number of eye rolls or inadvertent laughs that I would
have when he says stuff, it just it wouldn't it
wouldn't last long. And so whether it's talking about Bronnie
(41:55):
or it's talking about the Lakers or any of it,
I just it just none of it feels authentic or
since it's it's it's the picture that Lebron wants to paint,
and there's a healthy enough media that will paint it
however he wants it. And and on we go. I
(42:19):
I just can't. I just can't do it anymore, especially
at this point. You know, it's it's we're still playing this.
You know, if they just put the right pieces around him,
he could win another ring. It's I did this chart
the other day, like they got ninety two, ninety three
million dollars wrapped up in Lebron in ad And this
(42:39):
past season was the first time that the two of
them both played seventy games. Prior to that, it's been
fifties and sixties. And if you look at the other
top duos around just the Western Conference there for the
most part, outside of Booker and KD and Phoenix, they
all make less and there are all duos that you
(43:02):
would take over this duo. So this idea that it's
not the core, that it's just they don't have the
surrounding pieces to be a championship contender is just not
looking at the reality of the situation and that so
it's it's really and I don't want like, I don't
want to, I don't want to disparage what Lebron is
(43:23):
because I'm I don't I'm not measuring him now, I'm
not measuring who he is or who he's been based
on what I'm seeing now. But I'm also not going
to pretend like Lebron is the same guy that he
was four or five years ago when when he was
arguably the best player in the league.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Okay, let me ask you this, what do you make
up Paul George's comments about how the Clippers.
Speaker 9 (43:49):
Low baldin uh smack Smack's a lot of what I
heard with Klay Thompson, ego, getting the way of what
is ultimately I deal for a player, and and letting
the negotiations and and what somebody offers you. It's negotiations,
(44:10):
and it's negotiations in a situation where the Clippers are
dealing with a new reality that Barbara can't just pay
any price, that there are restrictions that come with reaching
that second apron and and so and I heard you know,
essentially it's the same with Klay Thompson, Like you know,
(44:32):
they made an offer to me that was that was insulting. Okay,
I don't care about the first offer, what was the
last offer? What was the best offer? Don't let your
feelings get in the way of making the best decision
for you. And I'm just I you know, I hope
things go well for for Paul George and Philadelphia. I
(44:53):
hope to go well for for clay In uh In
in Dallas. But in both case, I feel like the
players in question were already in a better situation than
they put themselves in. I don't buy that than Paul
George at this point, whether it's his legacy or whether
(45:15):
it's his opportunity to go further than he's gone in
his career, that that is going to be served by
being in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Rick Buker, Fox Sports One and Fox Sports dot Com,
you're the best buick, Thanks so much, join us. You
got So there's a lot there to unpack with what
Buker had to say, But I look, I realized over
the weekend Lebron took what it mounts to a two
million dollar haircut, right, I was willing to take less. Well, yeah,
(45:44):
he kept him out of the second apron, But fine,
that's not really taking much. Like you know, and this
is one of those things where for Paul George, everyone
says they want to win, everyone says all those right things.
Very few people are willing to do those things. You know,
are you want to take a pay cut?
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Sure? Are you going to take a ten million dollar paycut?
Speaker 3 (46:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Okay, well then you don't really want to add somebody
and take less. Do you want to stay in LA?
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Yes? Will you stay in LA for you know, without
a no trade clause?
Speaker 11 (46:14):
No?
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Then you really don't want to, really don't want to.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
I don't understand the Paul George, Hey, I want a
no trade clause and then you end up signing with
a different team. Like that feels like something that was
incredibly negotiable, incredibly negotiable. There's a lot of steps being
missed there. But everyone says they want feedback. Everyone says
they're willing to do what it takes to win to win,
(46:42):
and very few people are. That's kind of my read
on it. You know, they all want to win, but
they want to do it their way. And I can understand,
Like if you've already won your Lebron James and you're like, yeah, maybe,
but I just what happens is I understand, let's just
(47:06):
start with Lebron and Bronnie. I understand what Lebron's saying.
It's like, look, you have to be impervious to any
of that outside noise. You have to not let it
bother you. The reality is all of it creates a
perception if Bronny can't play at this level yet, and
he cannot, and you clearly forced it to happen, regardless
(47:27):
of whether or not JJ Reddick is great or is
not great, knows who he's doing, is not, it just
creates a perception of like, yeah, whatever they missed in
the two million dollars shortfall they made up by giving
to Bronny, they're doing anything lebron wants. And people just
don't want to play on that sort of deal, Like,
they just don't do it. I don't nobody wants to
(47:49):
play daddy ball, play for guys who do son as
their player college or pro, and they don't want to
do it where the best player's son is on the
team and he's buddies with the head coach. That just
doesn't feel like culture that has its eyes focused on winning.
I don't think Brownie plays much except for, you know,
a game or two in the NBA. I don't see
(48:11):
any reason that JJ Reddick can't be a really, really
good coach. But the problem isn't the reality of it.
The problem is the perception of it. And as for
Paul George. I think he ended up at a great
landing spot. I think they overpaid him, but I think
he gets to be a two A or two B
sort of player with Tyrese Maxi and they got a chance.
(48:32):
The problem becomes that they're still dependent upon Joel Embiid
to be healthy and that's been a hit or miss
prospect
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