April 20, 2024 • 55 mins
On this version of the Best of the Week of the Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug and Dan Beyer discuss whether or not the NBA Play-In games are actually considered the playoffs. Doug and Iowa Sam debate whether or not Caitlin Clark is similar to Jimmer Fredette.
Doug and the crew share what they loved most about the sports weekend and what they hated most.
Doug talks about why he is so annoyed with WNBA fans and WNBA commentators as the league is experiencing a bump due to Caitlin Clark.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Sam who inform me he has we're looking for tickets
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question for you, is it does relate to baseball and
I've often said this, I don't believe the baseball playoffs
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begin until the play in games have concluded. Right playoffs
multiple So do the NBA playoffs start or is this
the play in tournament? I don't think you're in the
playoffs if you play today. I don't think you're in
the playoffs and play today. And the interesting part about
it is, in the best case scenario, it's the greatest
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thing ever for the NBA because, regardless of where they finished,
the Warriors would go to the playoffs and the Lakers
would go to the playoffs, which I still think is
the most likely outcome, the most likely outcome of the
of the Western Conference play in tournament at the Lakers.
We discussed this yesterday. Would they, in their heart of hearts,
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prefer to get the eight seed to play the Thunder? Yes,
but they can't risk it and do gamesmanship and lose tonight.
They're not good enough to just sho up and beat
the Kings or the Warriors in the second game of
the play in. So I think the Lakers win, and
then I think the Warriors win this one, then beat
the Pelicans, and then everybody is happy. Because in truth,
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the reason I believe baseball expanded there play in playoffs.
Whatever was what we're seeing play out in the NBA,
because Baseball's playoffs have been a ratings disaster. When the
Yankees and Red Sox are not both involved, and if
neither involved, it's really a mess. Like last year, the
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same is true for the NBA. You may have Lebron fatigue,
but you definitely want Lebron in the playoffs, even root
against him. You may have Steph and Warrior and Draymond fatigue,
but you still want them in the playoffs. So we
start to play in tournament. It's not the playoffs. I've
pretty much laid out how I think it's going to
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work out. We'll discuss more as the show rolls on.
John Middlecoff's going to join us in twenty minutes. We'll
get you ready for the upcoming NFL draft.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yes, dambire, before you move on from the playing games
for your scenario that plays out. I'm just because we
had somebody on last week that you know, you pointed
out the standings and they said, well, hey, if the
season was there was no play in tournament, you wouldn't
have Golden State here with an opportunity to make a push,
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or they wouldn't even be in the bracket.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
They would be in the ten seed.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And I think on paper, in this NBA day and
age that we live, that is correct, but I don't
think it's an accurate portrayal of how teams now play
towards the end of the season. The only team that
actually really had urgency was Golden State because there was
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at one point where they were battling with the Rockets
to make sure they were in the ten spot, and
then they had a game against the Rockets, kicked the
crap out of them, and the rest was pretty much
history and eliminated any chance that Houston had, And like
so many teams just kind of cruise along and throw
in the towel. I just wonder in all of this
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of you know, we look at tonight and we say, yeah,
it's great for the NBA they have Steph Curry and
Lebron James in these games. If you didn't have the
play in tournament, don't you think the urgency towards the
end of the regular season would have been much different?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Of course, yeah, And that's the you know, that's the
other part of it is, wouldn't it be great to
see Lebron James and Steph Curry and in Zion and
all these teams battling it out going down the stretch
where the last two weeks are worthy instead of being like,
all right, well, we may be the sixth seed, but
if we're the seven, at least we're in. We don't
want to do anything foolish. We think we can win
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the seventh seed because I went and looked back at
the play in stand or the NBA standing since the
playing tournament game more than half of the time, Doug,
there's a sizeable gap between the tenth seed and the
eleventh seed. Yes, and I don't think that's great for basketball,
because we know certain teams just throw in the towel.
But I don't think that there's as much urgency. Wasn't
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every year. Sometimes it was a game that was a difference,
but more often than not, you had a sizeable gap
because there really wasn't any urgency. And I just I
don't like, Tonight is great, and tomorrow will be great,
and maybe Thursday and Friday will be good as well,
But are we sacrificing the final two weeks of the
season just so we can have these great nights in
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the playoffs. I don't know if it's necessarily.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I think the final two weeks of the season were actually okay.
I think it's you know, it's it's the unspoken part
which the NBA is trying to address, and the truth is,
like with the play in tournament, I assume it with
the in season tournament, it's trying to address because I
actually think your point would be even stronger, and I'll
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help make it stronger. Is it's not just less would
you have morey throughout the year?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Because everybody was doing what we did in college, which
is like, you don't pay attention to the assignments and
the regular part of this, and then all of a
sudden the finals come up. You're like, oh, I got
a bone up. You're in every study session, you go
and see the professor and you're like, look, dude, had
you just been doing this the whole year, you wouldn't
need the final to help change your final grade. You
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wouldn't have to call the professor afterwards and beg for
a little bit extra credit had you just been doing this.
So you're right, it only points out if we didn't
have this with the Warriors, with the Lakers, where they
have spent more time and had more detail and given
guys less day off, less days off, so they wouldn't
be in this. But the difference is I think if
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you look, if you predate the play in tournament, the
ninth spot, there was a gap there oftentimes and those teams,
if they weren't in, they were all tanking. They were
all tanking. And now you have fewer teams tanking and
fewer time to decide you want a tank. So I
think that's really still what's at work. Is it better modestly,
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it's the law, like what you're pointing out is the
law of unintended consequences. The intended consequence of this whole
thing is to make more teams competitive at the end
of the year. So it's not just ten, it's eleven, twelve, thirteen.
Think they got a chance and they haven't gotten there.
Baseball has gotten there. Baseball is way more competitive at
the back end. But I think that part has worked
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because you did have the Suns, had to put a
lot more effort into it, had to play those final
couple of games so that he got out of the
play in tournament. So I think it's not we focus
on seven through ten, but five and six are also important,
and then eleven and twelve are kind of important. So
are there scenarios that could make this better?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Absolutely, yes, And there's ways in which you can make
the nd season tournament more important. Is if based upon
your results in the Inca's tournament, it creates some sort
of ongoing score for the regular for the rest of
the regular season. But it's all telling us what we
all know to be true, which is nobody cares about
the regular season, and teams are just now going like,
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all right, now, we'll figure it out. And you know,
the Warriors and Lakers seem to get it going a
little bit late, and now the Lakers are in this
position where they don't really want to be the seventh seed.
They want to be the eight, but they can't risk
it tonight. So I do think that's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Seas get degrees, right, that's the old series, yea, yeah, yes, yeah, yeah,
and both these teams got seas. I also think that
the timing of where the NBA is at this point,
meeting Lebron's age, the Trio and golden state of where
they are, that that plays a part into it.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
If this was if this was in the late.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Twenty teams and we were having this where Golden State
is dominant at that time. I think we look at
the play in tournament. I look at the play in
tournament for what we had last year, especially that the
when the you know, Lakers ended up beating Minnesota. But
then you had Oklahoma City when their game, so that
was a shocker. And then they have this fired up
matchup against the Timberwolves and the Timberwolves win it and
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get momentum. And I looked at that as like a springboard,
like okay, look out for Oklahoma City, And what a
springboard it was, because now they're the number one overall
seed in the Western Conference. Like we knew, like you know,
good things were on the horizon. It was like when
the I think it was the Clippers a few years back,
ended up going for it and when they they didn't
have to, or you could have just punted on the season.
Instead they went for the eight seed and it paid
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off in the long run. Yeah, I think there's more
value in that than there is in giving a safety
net or a lifeline to aging veterans who don't put
that much into the regular shit.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
No, I get it.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
But the other part too, it is it's a lot
like baseball in that in that play in game, you
use your ace, so you lose your ace for the
next series. Right in this, like I think for the
Lakers one game let alone too, and remember these games
are played at a much higher level. Does that Does
it wear you out for the end of a series? Right?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Does it?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Does it wear you down? I don't think it. I
mean obviously didn't last year with the Lakers getting in
and then and then making a little bit of a run.
But it does increase every game, increases the risk of
injury when you have older players, and it does potentially
take time away from you. And for the Warriors, every
game leads you closer and closer to the inevitable Draymond
Green blow up in the suspension right like you can
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almost set your watch to it. It's going to happen.
It's just a question of when it When it happened.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I will say this, and I think that it's important
tonight to look at this the play in memories that
I have yeap are been blowouts too, Yes, yes there
have been, but there are also been We mentioned Oklahoma
City last year, John Morant's arrival. None of it has
been Remember what Lebron did in that playing game? Remember what?
Like I don't even I don't even remember. The stories
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that have come from this have been about teams who
are trying to make that next level or to become
a playoff team instead of just you know, allowing teams
reason the slack off.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
That's all Stug gottlab Show here on Fox Sports Tradio. Okay,
I have a question for you. Okay, Sam is mister
Iowa in case she didn't know, He's literally mister Iowa.
He's more Iowa than the Iowa Caucasus, right, Iowa your Caucasus. Anyway,
last night, Caitlyn Clark gets drafted and the ladies looked amazing,
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and there was a ton of attention given, and we
did do the thing where we pretended like we cared
about the other draft picks. Right, but the truth is,
so here's my belief in it. Right, there's three kind
of three possible Caitlin Clark effects. Does she continue to
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get garner the attention that she has gotten. Does that
attention only follow her, does it follow the entire league?
Does it follow all of women's basketball? And look Here's
what's missing. Here's what's missing we have to recognize is
(12:09):
the power of college sports. Right if she plays for
anybody other than Iowa, I'm not sure the response is
the same. I'm just not because Iowa. I've told you this.
Iowa kind of speaks to us. Feels down home, feels
like regular girls, you know, feels like a program that
I had no idea they'd been good, that Lisa Bluter
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been this good, this long. Look at her record, she's
been great. Brings attention like, oh, it's just a solid program.
Whereas it feels like whatever you whatever your perception is
of the SEC, it just feels like and there's nothing
nefarious at work. They're not doing anything illegal, but just
feels like, hey, we're gonna load up, go get a
famous coach, go get famous players, throw a bunch of
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money at him, and we're gonna win on based upon
that fame. Like all of that, the juxtaposition of the
two really works. Of course, angel Rees being black and
her being white, I think works. I think the whole
story is interesting, But now you take away, did anyone
really know that the Indiana team was called the Fever
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until the last couple of days, No, because there's no
like historical, oh rivalry or name recognition. So you take
away any of the brand recognition other than the WNBA,
which you know exists, you don't know anything else about it.
No one knows who the coach of the Fever is,
No one knows who any of the players the Fever are.
There's no following nationally. Obviously locally they've done a good job.
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They had ten thousand people in the arena to watch
for be drafted last night. And the reality is, I'm
not sure there's going to be immediate rivals as much
as rivals with the elite players in the league. So
do we think there's a carryover because remember there's a
month between now and then and now in their first game,
(13:57):
their first game is going to be played when the
NBA playoffs are in full swing. Plus the weather starts
to be warm and fewer people start to watch TV,
and those built in rivalries like they they don't cease
to exist, but they're harder to create big games because
the games are happening all the time. Jaycedu, what do
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you think her first year is like? Remember, and I
pointed this out that I know WNBA ratings have been up.
Remember this year, they're going to have to take a
break mid season because of the Olympics, and then when
she's on the Olympic team, she will not be the
best player. She probably will not start, which I don't
know what that creates for us in terms of our
(14:41):
expectations and our appreciation of her. What do you think
happens our first year in the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I let's see.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I think there's going to be an initial excitement. And
you know, we're broadcasting, we're broad casting, We're relating to
the common sports fan. I'm not talking about WNBA fans here,
I'm talking about the common person me. There's going to
be initial interest. We'll pay attention, we'll talk about it
on the show. Then the NBA playoffs will over, will
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drown it out. At the end of the NBA playoffs,
we're all going to check in to see if Kaitlyn
Clark is any good, if she's above average to average.
Maybe we tune into a couple of her games and
that lasts throughout the season and I don't think they're
a playoff team, and then it'll just go back to
being the WNBA. Caitlin Clark was just kind of an
average player in this league, and she was a one
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off as an Iowa basketball player.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
That's what this is going to be.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Tim Tebow, Tim Tebo, Tim Tebow or Jimmer Furdett. I
think she's better than Tebow and better than Fordet. I
think she'll be really good. Do I think she'll be
the best player in the league. I do not.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Can I just add something, Jimmer Fredett was not an
efficient scorer. He shot a lot and his team's never
went far in the NCAA tournament. She's the greatest scorer
in the history of NCAA if you want to count
both men and women. She's way more than a Jimmer
for debt. I think that's almost sack a disrespect to
compare her to for Debt. Yes, they both shoot a lot,
but she's just like a way better basketball player than
Jimmer for debt, and he's playing in China. I mean,
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she's she's still going to be like one of the
premier players in the world.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I think about the last three quarters of the game
against South Carolina. I think about that that As her
WNBA career, she made some shots but was largely marginalized
by bigger and better players.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Sure but she's still opened with eighteen points and she
can adjust her So I said the last three quarters
right right, But she still can't. You can't exclude the
first quarter where she there will also be better players
around her. Absolutely, she's got Boston, She's got they've been
loading up. They've been loading up high picks.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
On the By the way, Jimmer Fordet's senior year at BYU,
he shot forty from three. That's not inefficient, nine to
five from field, that's not an efficient ninety from the line,
and he averaged twenty nine points a game and four
and a half the sister game.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I just remember him shooting a lot.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, and I remember her shooting a lot too. What
were her stats better than his? Were they?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah? Yeah? Okay?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
So what what did she shoot from the field?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I believe she shot higher than forty five. Okay, But again,
he never he never took an average team deep into
the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
She shot thirty seven point thirty eight from three. That's
a percentage point lower. She shot forty five from the field.
It's the exact same percentage he shot. She averaged thirty
one a game, and she averaged nine assists. To get right,
so she averaged twice the mant of assists.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
She also almost yeah, she's.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Twice number of assists, right if you remember the reason
his team didn't go far in the tournament? Do you
remember what happened? No, His Stars center Brandon Davies got
suspended for the team for an honor code violation. He
had sex I know, I know, and with the woman
he eventually he is married to now and has kids
with Noway, she was a volleyball player now, So yes,
(18:05):
I'm you're making the argument against him, which is the
same argument that Jay Williams made against her, which is
kind of ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Winning and averaging nine assists a game is amazing what
she's been able to do. Okay, but let's not do
the I'm gonna talk ish about jim or Furdett, which
is not the you said he was inefficient. His efficiency
numbers are exactly the same as hers, matter of fact,
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slightly better from three. So just go like my bad,
I remember it differently passed. Look at her one more,
look at her career, and I what she probably was
just saying, no, no, no, no, Just start with my bad.
I misremembered it. I didn't remember it. I just gave
you the stats. There is no argue. The thing about
stats is, here's how they work. There is no argument
with them. Okay, I'm listening.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Great, No, no, give me by a percentage point. No, no, no, no,
it's the bare Doug. I'm not going to apologize if
you're not.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Apologizing meeting that you're wrong. Sure, so that's what you do.
This is a big boy stuff. Hey, my bad, I
was wrong.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
You said it? No, no, no, Doug, what do you
what will you.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Bump back with Nirvana's no apologies coming back after?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Don't have to apologize, you have to go my bad,
I had it wrong.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I remember him being remembered. Yeah, I misremembered.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Okay, ye, fair enough. If you want to misremember, you're good.
It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. So, Dan,
what do you think happens? What do you think our
first year is?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Like?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I think that it's I think that it's great, and
I think that I don't know how you talked about
the break with the Olympics in all of their schedule
goes once football season takes over, it's over.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Yes, yep, there'll be people watching maybe the ratings will
be higher than what they were, but she's really filled
in an enormous gap of our attention once football ended.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
No question, I mean really, As I said, I think
it's more an indictment on the men's game than I
than I do on anything else. But it also shows,
you know, what an interesting personal interest story this is.
I just don't know when that wears out?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
When does that? When did like?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I'm good, I'm good, like we don't we still don't
follow Jessica. That fell down a well and it was
all apologies by Nirvana. As I've been getting feedback from
my buddies, I'm so sorry, Sam o, Sam, you're good.
Sam got a little hot there when he got pressed
to say my bad. It's not it's not that. What's that?
What are the kids saying nowadays? It's not that deep,
not that deep.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Papa Roach did no apologies, roche Papa Roach. Well, that's
what it was, Papa Roach. I can't name a Papa
Roach song.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
No apologies there.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I'm gonna apologize for not knowing.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I will apologize as well for not knowing that. That's
my forgetting it wrong.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
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and guys, hope you all had a great weekend. I
mean I had an interesting weekend. Right. My daughters turned
eighteen years old, which is just it's so crazy. So
I was talking to one of my daughters yesterday and
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I was like, you know, eighteen, it's pretty cool birthday.
She's like, yeah, she went through all the things she
can do. You know, she can buy SIGs, not that
she smokes siggs. She can vote, she can drink in
Mexico but not here anyway. And then and then the
(22:14):
interesting one is, you know one of my daughters drives,
one of them does not. And she's like, hey, now
I got to do is take the driving test. I
don't have to take the written portion of it. Like really, yeah,
aids out of that sucker. So they are a happy birthday.
Both my daughter's Harper and Grace and yesterday was her birthday.
(22:35):
Pretty awesome. Although then you go back through and you know,
her friends encourage me to post funny videos over Harper
because she has a lot of them because she's hysterical,
and but then you start going through the videos and
you're like, man, I literally remember that, like it was yesterday.
She was seven and she was doing this. The days
(22:56):
are long, but the years are quick.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Days long.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
Beer.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Let's have some nostalgia for the weekend? Shall we What
we loved? What we hated? You can chime into at
Gatlieb Show on Instagram at gatlib Show on Twitter. Let's
play the game what did you love? God? I love you?
And what did you hate? Meet these play hays? Okay there,
(23:28):
Let's start with Dan Byer. You're a loving mood? Would
you love from the Weekend.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Prize? Doug?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
No surprise Doug that the Masters would highlight my love
of this weekend. I was locked in and not only Thursday,
but Friday as well Saturday and Sunday. And I know
it didn't live up to everyone's expectations, but I love
how the po Donald Levin came into play on Sunday
(24:02):
with Colin Morikawa and Ludwig Oberg ending up in that
pond because for a while a lot of players want
to play away from it. I liked at one point
we had six players tied from the lead in the
final round. I know it didn't end how many would
have hoped, with a lot of drama, but I just
love Master's Weekend. In fact, I didn't even work yesterday.
(24:23):
It's it's a tradition, unlike any other where. I'm usually
off Master's Weekend because I want to soak it all in.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
That's what I love this weekend.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
All right, Jason Strue, would you love at the beginning?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
This is what I enjoyed.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I didn't see it when it aired, but I watched
the Saturday Night Live of Caitlin Clark. Caitlin Clark was
on Saturday Night Live. I'm sure everybody saw it, and
she was on the uh what is a portion of
the new the News Update.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Weekend end Update?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
And I guess Michael Chay's had some real negative things
to say about women's basket ball, A lot of them
I share. I think he's very funny about it. And
then Caitlyn Kark kind of called him out on the
mat and uh. And it was a good bit, you know,
and it was very scripted, but it was a good bit.
But what I loved about it, if you've got that
sound of what she said on the show, Sam, that
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would be great.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
So hold on, I think you're a great basketball player.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I mean I can't play like you do.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Yeah, we know, And obviously I can't tell jokes like
you do.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Thank you for that.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
But I did write some jokes and it would mean
a lot to me if you read some of them
just right over there on the carts.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
Well, the Indiana Fever have the first pick in this
Monday's draft, a reminder that Indiana Fever is a w
NBA team and not what Michael Jack gave to dozens
of women at for Junior University.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Yeah.
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Speaker 5 (26:20):
Thanks. I'm sure will be a big first step for me,
but it's just one step for the WNBA. Thanks to
all the great players like Cheryl Swoops, Lisa Leslie, Cynthia Cooper,
the great Don Staley, and my basketball hero Maya Moore.
These are the women that kicked down the door so
I could walk inside.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
So if you noticed, Caitlin Clark took time out of
our comedy bit to thank the players of the past
that helped pave the way for her. A couple of
those names that she mentioned have taken direct shots at
her over the last few weeks. So Caitlin Clark for
taking the high road, for having the cachet to be
(26:58):
on SNL, I think the first women's or w NBA
player to be on SNL. I loved it. I love
the whole thing. So Caitlyn Clark, congratuation.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
It's amazing that she was on there and it wasn't
It didn't seem like a bad fit, right, It didn't
seem forced. Some of the other women's basketball stuff previously
seemed forced. It didn't. Frankly, I'm sure SNL benefited greatly
from it, all Right, Jill, what about you, Sammy.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Well, it's gonna be more the same Kaitlyn Clark. But
I loved the weekend that Caitlyn Clark had all right,
fly out to La Friday night, pick up your Wooden Award.
You got Jason sudeikis there in your corner. Give give
them a little speech to the audience. Had all kinds
of stars there, coaches, and we mixed out on him.
Yet does that kind of aw.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeh, tell me why he's not really a coach and
yet he continues to play the role of like the
world's most beloved coach.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Listen, I get it, but it's also he's he's a
big star. He's in your corner.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I think it's great that he sort of he's gone
to games there at Carver Hawckey Arena. Anyway, that's just
only a little part of her stellar weekend. See had today,
cause there you're taking pictures of Zach Edy who won
the Men's Wooden Award. All right, then fly out to
New York City, go on Saturday Night Live. That's something
that you know, like last time someone from Iowa did that,
(28:20):
maybe Ashton Kutcher. I don't know. That's a pretty big deal.
That was awesome. And then of course tonight you have
the WNBA Draft and you're a front and center for that.
So I loved Caitlin Clark's weekend. That's what I loved.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Okay, I love the fact that Jackson Holiday got his
first hit yesterday. His whole family was there, and I
was actually texting Matt, who came home with us and
the Dan Patrick Show on Friday, and he's like, yeah,
he's got to get one today because we're going home
after today, Right, he's off on his own, And sure enough,
he did get one. But I mean, I think you
can all. I think it was first thirteen of bats.
(28:53):
He had eleven strikeouts, like just trying too hard, swinging
at everything, and he got one, and it feels like
the rest, I don't know, be easy, but he get
back to being who he is. He's like our player
that we've adopted as this show. And I did feel
the struggles and all the strikeouts and now he's off
the snide and oh yeah, by the way, it helped
(29:13):
the Orioles come from behind and get a win on
a Sunday. That's what I loved.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
And you know it's one of those things too, that
once you get that first one, then that's the fludgates.
I just have a feeling he's gonna have a bunch
of extra base hits this week. He's just gonna get
back to just raking the ball like he always has
like that, and that entire first thirteen at bats. Like
you said, I think nerves and also I think pictures
(29:38):
take it a little bit more personally, like, oh, you're
the number one prospect in baseball. Okay, well how about
this slider piece on the on the on the black.
But no, I think I loved I loved watching him
get that first hit, and I think he's gonna have
a big next couple weeks.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
All right, we'll see, He'll be in Anaheim next week.
Let's get to what we hated from the weekend. We
got start with a resident hater. That's Jason Stewart.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
You know what my my hate actually is, like the
I guess afterthought of my love if you guys remember right,
I'm asking that the listeners are stretcher. But three minutes ago,
my love was Kitlin Clark and the appearance on SNL,
and I played for you what what was really cool
about it? She took the high road and she you know,
(30:25):
basically paid an ode to the players before her. What
I did to appreciate was the reaction of the Kitlin
Clark SNL appearance on Twitter on Twitter. So I don't
know what you call this kind of twitter, SNL twitter,
WNBA twitter. But just to give you one example, here's
(30:47):
one big vanilla funny rights. Yeah, let's celebrate the losers
of the National Championship Game and back to back years
by double digits. Was Angel Reeson last year and Mellow
Cardosa this year. Oh wait, that's right. They wanted to
invite the loser to the White House as well, right,
But I'm sure it's not the media. I think the
(31:09):
implication here is that Kitlin Clark's stardom is a media
creation and it's not a something that she earned or
but there's no merit to it, or she wasn't like
one of the most unique players we've ever seen in
the college basketball. There's there's a lot of hater Ray,
there's a lot of like resentment that I just don't get.
(31:32):
I don't get where that's coming from. I'd never have
understood the resentment of Kitlin Clark taking the game to
the next level. It's almost like a lot of you
people would rather the game not get bigger than to
have it get bigger with Kitlin Clark. It's very strange
to me, and I can't stand that.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Okay, I agree with you. I mean that the it
hits hysterical like, but the problem is that some people
don't even know what's good for them, right, they don't
know what's good for him, Like, look, this helps everybody.
Rising tide lifts all ships, and they can't get out
of their own way and their competitive nature. Athy. It's
also a league that has played the victim for a
(32:13):
long time too, so it's you know, no one can
take a compliment. They just can't dan byer something you
hate it from the weekend.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
This may be a shock to some, but a run
mid February, when my team's not in the Super Bowl,
I kind of get a little exhausted of football, you know,
like when we were a Super Bowl week, you know,
at that point, it's like.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Let's just get the game.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Let's get the game here, and I'm kind of ready
to have football not in my life for you know,
like it dominates from August all the way to February.
And one of the things that I have to look
forward to is this four week stretch of college basketball
and Championship Week into the NCAA Tournament and then the
(32:59):
NCD Tournament ends on a Monday, and what do you know,
that's the first day of Masters week. And now that's over,
and it's a sad time. Not that there aren't things
that I won't look forward to, like the PGA Championship
next month or football. Yes, and it's but it's also
it's also a break from football because football is so
(33:22):
dominates our lives in the fall, and so now that
time and so now I'm looking ahead the summer. But
the worst day of the sporting calendar for me is
the day after the Masters, because then I got to
wait another whole year for it to come along. So
I'm I know they say, smile that it happened, don't
cry that it ended, but still still difficult on this
(33:43):
sort of day.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Okay, what about you there, Sammy.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
I am going to co sign Jason Stewart's hate topic
for the week. I'm co signing on that. I'm not
co signing on what Jill Biden did last year saying
the loser come on out too. I don't I don't
endorse that, but I will endorse the words of Jason
Stewart here. And here's kind of a something that was
I hated, but it was also amusing yesterday. I think
(34:12):
it was yesterday. Manny Machado hit a home run. Former
Dodger hit a home run into the crowd at Dodger Stadium,
and one a guy who caught the ball, he threw
it back or did he He actually had a decoy
ball in his pocket and threw it back on the
field so he could keep the Machado home run ball,
which is you know, he's gonna get a lot of
flak for that, but it's it's funny. It's it's it's
(34:35):
something I'm like, oh man, that's lame, but it's also
kind of amusing.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
So wait, did you hate it? Or did you like it?
All right?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I kind of liked it.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Did the Dodgers then try to shake him down for
the real ball? So that he went to the padres
and hell, here's a box of chocolates and that's it.
That's all you get, some.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Buzz the peanuts. The funny thing about that whole thing
was the guy says that he has caught more than
twenty his life. And as a person who's spent fifty
one years on this planet and it has gone to
hundreds of Major League Baseball games, I've never once caught
a ball at a baseball game.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I haven't either.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I haven't attended as many baseball games yet. Now, I
will tell you that a good portion of it is
strategic planning. And I believe I could be wrong, Jason,
but you have reached the sneak seat snobbery moment of
your life. And here's the thing. The better the seats,
the least likely you already get a ball.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I wouldn't say that, I would net above you.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
There's a net in front of you. When was the
last time you sat in the bleachers? No?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
No, I haven't in quite some time.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Okay, so there you go.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Remember Kendrick Klamar sat in the bleachers a couple of
years ago. If Kendrick climark and I can, I mean, you're.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Going to fry in the sun, but you have a
better chance of catching a meaningful ball.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Well, the sun's not that hot out here in southern
California just yet. We're supposed to have a couple of
nice days.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Middle of the week in July and.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
That like sure, But you sayso afternoon night games. Okay,
I'll get to what I what I hate it was
I there were so many games which I were told
were important on Sunday, and yet some teams didn't even
try on Sunday in the I'm talking about the NBA, right,
The NBA was it was this, oh my god, biggest
(36:23):
Sunday and I and there's so many moving parts. I
literally needed somebody to explain to me before and during
every game what was taking place. And I couldn't get that.
There's just too many things working in real time, and
so I had to shut it off. I went back
to the masters, I went outside. I did some stuff
with my kids, because you know, I told you my
daughter's birthday and I was like, you know, I just
(36:45):
tell me what happened when it's over. So who plays who?
Because I had no concept of what was going on.
And then you know, like you we're told these games matter.
And then Oklahoma City was they had what'd they have
at halftime? They had like eighty two at the half?
It was like eighty two to forty at a half
(37:06):
or something like that. Against Dallas. I'm like, wait, are
we taking these games seriously or not? Apparently the answer
for Oklahoma City was yes. For Dallas was now. So
Sonny was really confusing for me. And then now that
the dost settles. It's a little bit less confusing and
that's love.
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(38:00):
I truly do. I want to get into some Kaitlin
Clark stuff in a second, but I saw this from
Brian Winhurst. NBA scouts don't think Bronnie James was able
to put his best foot forward this year because USC
didn't play him in his position. They say he should
play somewhere or he can be the point guard, Like
(38:22):
what are we doing? They say he should play somewhere
where he can be the point guard and build up
his skills. So all of these stories are the same, okay,
and we can do this more in the podcast. But again, buyer,
(38:44):
you're a really good guy. If I'm not making sense,
if it doesn't all equal out at the end. Please
feel free you can call me. I'm not because things
that work out my brain sometimes don't come out of
my mouth. I don't know if anybody else is like that.
But if you go back, like a year and a
half ago, there was a lot of discussion about the
NFL and Eric Enemy not being hired, and there is
(39:06):
as well the NFL owners are inherently racist because otherwise,
why wouldn't you hire Eric Vienemy? Right? You even had
people that would say, you know, owners want to hire
somebody that can take around to their buddies, Like that's
somebody who says that has no idea how the NFL works,
Like there's no boosters, there's no donors, there's no handshaking.
(39:27):
It's I give you a job. Do I want to
be able to be around you? Like sure, but that's
not really what's important. Can you get along with the
front office? Can you get along with your coaches? Can
you guys win football games? That's all that matters. And
I've talked to plenty of gms and presidents and their
whole thing is like Will adding, said coach Will adding,
(39:47):
will any of this help us win games more? And
so the job of a GM or a president or
an owner when they're trying to find the right coaches.
What is going to help us win the most football games,
the longest, the most with the most, the quickest, and
for the longest period of time. We want to sustain excellence.
(40:09):
It's pretty simple. The more games you win, the more
everybody is happy. Why because you know, players get bonuses. Okay,
players get bonuses, uh. General managers and coaches get extensions.
And when they get extensions, they get to stay living
where they live or maybe buy a better house and
(40:29):
they don't have to move because families hate that. People
hate moving, hate leaving their job. And assistant coaches, in
addition to making more money and being able to say
they also get opportunities to go get other jobs, are
the same thing as front office. So the only thing
that's important in professional sports is winning. And so what
we have a group of people. We have a group
(40:50):
of people who are in the media, and many of
them are on social media as well that aren't in
the media. But we have a group of people within
media who believe that there's such nefarious intentions from people
in power that despite the fact that the number one
and really only objective is to win football games. That
(41:11):
they go like, yeah, we could win with Eric b Enemy,
but you know he's black, so let's find a white
guy who can do almost as good. It doesn't make
any sense, right, If your job is to win, then
you get whoever the best man, woman, non binary, I
don't really care. You just win football games? Makes sense? Sure? Okay,
(41:34):
So then we have this there's this argument that has
popped up, and it really was I think Jamel Hill
probably triggered it the most because she has the biggest
social media following where she put out a picture of
three WNBA players or somebody else put a picture that
(41:56):
somebody else put a picture, but then she retweeted or whatever.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Quote tweeted a Sporting News tweet that had the three
players that have signature shoe deals with the shoe companies.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Right, and those three are Brianna Stewart, Sabrina I and
SQ and now Caitlin Clark, who signed a reportedly eight
figure deal to be with Nike, which of course caused
Jamel Hill to do the which I find super disingenuous.
Were they all have in common? I've see all three
(42:32):
are white. So what Jamel Hill would lead you to
believe is, for example, Nike and Nike, who has they
gave Colin Kaepernick a bunch of money? I'm not really sure.
And they had that cool commercial, but I'm not really
sure there was was there any product Colin Kaepernick that
he sold? And they have been at the forefront for
(42:53):
women's sports for a long time. These aren't the first
shoes they've ever put out in a woman's name. And
by the way, Sabrina I and SQ shoes are the
number one seller. Now, some of that is a little
bit disingenuous because they use it as their team shoe,
which means college teams get them automatically, like those are
the shoes that everybody gets, and then high school teams
when they order shoes from Nike, those are the ones
(43:13):
they get. It's a great shoe, and really it's the
Kyrie Irving shoe that when Kyrie, when they had to
get rid of Kyrie, these were the next shoes down
the pipe, and they just slapped Sabrina's logo on it.
And Sabrina, who is a great college player and as
a good professional player, I don't know if she's great
like I legit, have no idea, don't actually care to know.
But obviously she did the three point shooting shootout with Staph.
(43:36):
She has a relationship there. But the fact she went
to Oregon and I'm sure Steph would wanted to put
her in his shoe at under armour help get her
own shoe, and they've killed it. But the the wondering aloud,
which is again disingenuous, like if you think people are racist,
then go ahead say it, because then you'll be made
to look as foolish as you really look. But that
(44:00):
Nike would Nike could make a bunch of money on
Dan Byr. How do you say her name? Is it
a Jai Wilson? How do you how do you wis?
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yeah, Sabrina Escu, you don't even have to bree.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I appreciate it. Asia Wilson, who's apparently a two time
league MVP. I know she's the best player in Vegas,
right and they won the championship, and you know, like, well,
why doesn't she have her own shoe? So again you're
sitting on your phone or on your computer or in
front of a microphone, and you're actually saying that Nike
(44:37):
as a as a publicly traded Fortune five hundred company,
that has been well ahead of everything in terms of
of of all of the different social justice or injustice
issues and women in sports. They would sacrifice all that
equity because in their heart of hearts, their race, they
(45:00):
don't want black women to sell their sneakers. That's that's
the presumption that's made right Again, this is a company
that they get rid of anything that doesn't have I believe,
twelve percent growth year to year or more. So you're
saying that Nike like, yeah, listen, we could sell a
lot of shoes, but let's not do it because she's black.
Asia Wilson's black. We don't want to do that. That's
(45:22):
what her tweet said without saying it, which is I
think even weaker. And here's the now. Now you have
Brownie James, and well, they didn't use him the right way.
They didn't develop him as the point guard. Well they
had first of all, they had that Isaiah Collier, who
(45:46):
is the number one rated prospect in the country, who
is a point guard. And oh yeah, by the way,
so what you're saying is Annie Enfeld. Annie Enfeld, rather
than trying to win games, he wont to keep Bronnie
down because he didn't see him as a starting point guard,
and so that's why he didn't play point Like that's
(46:07):
what we're actually saying. How does this make sense to anybody? Anybody?
Are those things parallel each other?
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Do you do?
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Do I make any sense to you? Buy or my
two foot all over the place?
Speaker 2 (46:18):
I think Bronnie's situation is just so unique considering who
he is, what his last name is, heck, what his
first name is, and even just considering his health situation.
In tying into the story that you're just talking about
for what the career was at USC or what we
expected it to be at USC, I think that also
(46:39):
played a big part of it. So I just think
that bronnie situation is just very very unique.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
It is it is, and I think all these situations
in fact are unique. But I think the one parallel
is like we do know that that, Yeah, people play
who they think is going to help them win the most, right,
he plays somebody who's going to help you win. That's
coaching one on one Like why would Amy Nfeld not
(47:08):
play him at point guard if he thought he was
the best point guard or gave them the best chance
to win. And by the way, Bronnie did start at
point guard several games when Isaiah Hollier was out. They
didn't win a lot of those games. So I just
it doesn't mean the coaches are always right. It doesn't
mean that businesses are always right. It doesn't mean it
(47:32):
doesn't mean that that coaching decisions and who we pick
are always right. It's just where did this decision come from?
And generally, I think in business you make the decision
that where you're going to be able to make the
most money. And when you're a coach, your only goal
is to win the most games. Who gives me the
(47:52):
best opportunity to win?
Speaker 4 (47:57):
Jase, what do you think I think we should play
the what Don Stane always said about Caitlin This.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
Is good.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
I like people who get it. I like people who
get it, and there's lots of people in our business
that don't get it. You know, I saw a cut
and I sent it to you. I believe Chase too.
I don't know if I sent to everybody. I saw
a clip yesterday Pablo Torre was on with who is
he on with? When? Uh? He was on What's same
(48:28):
Levatard show? Right? Yeah, so so take a listen to
Pablo Torre talking with LeBatard about the w NBA.
Speaker 9 (48:38):
Just marvel and just marvel truly, Like when you say
w NBA, the first thing you think of is wow,
that ratings monster, Like we have not seen this dad,
Like I had Morgan Murphy on my show on Friday
to talk about what it's like actually when you've been
rooting and watching and consuming and trying to evangelize people
on your favorite sport. She's one of the She's the
(48:59):
big women's basketball fan I know in my life, and
she's been trying to convince people for twenty years this
is worth it, and it's finally happening, and there's comedy, right,
and not merely you being proven right, but also the
dynamic of what happens when everybody starts like gentrifying the
thing you love. And so I was a bit of
(49:20):
this with Lucy and Iowa. But the way it's happening
at scale here with Kaitlyn Clark and women's basketball is
funny because you have to handle this unprecedented problem, A
deeply unpopular thing, seemingly overnight is now popular, and now
you are both vindicated and infuriated that everybody has takes
delivered with the confidence of people who've been there for
(49:42):
as long as you have, and that is both a
sign that you've made it and is also your personal hell,
like a genie cursed you with the wish that they
granted with the footnote of And by the way, now
Steven A is gonna have takes about Caitlin Clark that
are gonna make you infuriated, like that's it's an amazing thing.
We've just never seemed before in American sports.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
Okay, I would I would correct him on several levels.
Probably the biggest one, though, is I don't believe that
there's any metrics that says the sport is suddenly now
popular or that it was. I like that he admits
it was unpopular. I probably actually think that's true. I
don't like the term unpopular, whereas it just kind of
(50:24):
existed and we didn't care about it. But it was
on on some levels unpopular. I mean, I think that's
but I think it was unpopular on some leve you know,
I think it was unpopular for for reasons not having
to deal with, not having to do with with the
actual play. It's the the constant need for affirmation that
(50:46):
you're somehow good. But that's honestly, how WNBA people think
it's like this thing has been awesome all along, and
now of a sudden people are saying we're awesome when
you're supposed to say we're sorry. Here's the truth to it.
Here's what Don Staley, who is now the head coach
(51:07):
of the back to back defending national champions South Carolina
game Cocks, said about the Kaitlin Clark effect.
Speaker 10 (51:13):
I want basketball women's basketball to grow, and I'm not
too shy about saying why it grows. She's made it
grow over the past two years. We need to make
sure that we're telling the stories of our entire game.
So sometimes you have to go against the masses to
really cut down and say what's happening, you know, in
(51:34):
real time? Kaylen Clark is the sole reason why viewership
has shot through the roofs for our game.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yes, why is that so hard to admit? Now? Can you,
as Don proposed, can you tell other stories like once
you now have a bigger audience, Course of course you can.
I don't know if people stay tuned. My guess is
that they won't. My guess is that this is a
bit of a passing phase. And now she moves on
(52:05):
to the pro ranks. It kind of gets lost up.
It's a summer sport. It's cut up by the Olympics.
There's no built in rivalries. You don't have the brand
names of the team, like people can't name the names
of the teams. That's actually a big thing. But I'm
we're all gonna see it kind of play out in
real time. But at least she's admitting that there's not
(52:27):
any other reasons. There's only one reason people are paying attention.
It's Caitlin Clark. And instead you will get people like
Jamel Hill who are like, well, you know, they're only
paying it. Basically, they're only paying attention to her because
she's white, and that sucks. Do I think the color
of her skin plays a factor? Sure, church part of
(52:49):
the story. I've told you. I think her sexual orientation
plays a part of the story because the league was
seen as a league for lesbians. Ok just and and
you could say, like there'll be people listening like, oh
my god, like where everybody's sitting there nod in their
head like Okay, again, it's not a thing to me.
(53:12):
I don't care. But it's a definitely a different environment,
different subculture. It's just different, and some people an't comfortable
with that, whereas they're super comfortable with Caitlin Clark. She's
got straight brown hair, looks like she has her hair
is just like my daughter's hair. But I will tell
(53:33):
you the the WNBA fan out there is more obnoxious
than Eagle fans, right because Eagle fans know we don't
like them, but they don't care. And the Eagles have
at least won two Super Bowls here in the last
six seven years, whereas WNBA fans are acting like we're
(53:54):
all idiots for not celebrating the sport that nobody really
can pay attention to and nobody really cared about for
a long time, and we're supposed to apologize for it,
like we don't like you and you care anyway. Stut
Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, I honestly would
(54:17):
tell you I never would have thought in my life
we would still be talking about women's basketball at this
point in time, but we are. That is the power.
That is the power of Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (54:29):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Sam. You're obviously a big Iowa guide. That's why you're
trying to get tickets. You're gonna go on. Can you
can you name how many w NBA team names? Can
you name?
Speaker 3 (54:46):
Well, there's only twelve, probably could name eight. Go Las
Vegas Aces, Okay, La Sparks, Yeah, let's go Seattle Storm nice, Okay,
let's go Chicago Sky, Yeah, let's go Connecticut Sun. Let's
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go New York Liberty.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
Yes, that's six.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
Let's go Indiana Fever.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Yep, Let's that's it. I think hold on now, hold
on now, I think that's about it.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
Hold up, now, hold up. I'm missing something. I'm missing something.
I'm missing I mean of seven and I got five more? Man,
how about this?
Speaker 4 (55:26):
We listened to it, if we think about it over
the break and gotta go.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
I got close,
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question for you, is it does relate to baseball and
I've often said this, I don't believe the baseball playoffs
(01:11):
begin until the play in games have concluded. Right playoffs
multiple So do the NBA playoffs start or is this
the play in tournament? I don't think you're in the
playoffs if you play today. I don't think you're in
the playoffs and play today. And the interesting part about
it is, in the best case scenario, it's the greatest
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thing ever for the NBA because, regardless of where they finished,
the Warriors would go to the playoffs and the Lakers
would go to the playoffs, which I still think is
the most likely outcome, the most likely outcome of the
of the Western Conference play in tournament at the Lakers.
We discussed this yesterday. Would they, in their heart of hearts,
(01:53):
prefer to get the eight seed to play the Thunder? Yes,
but they can't risk it and do gamesmanship and lose tonight.
They're not good enough to just sho up and beat
the Kings or the Warriors in the second game of
the play in. So I think the Lakers win, and
then I think the Warriors win this one, then beat
the Pelicans, and then everybody is happy. Because in truth,
(02:17):
the reason I believe baseball expanded there play in playoffs.
Whatever was what we're seeing play out in the NBA,
because Baseball's playoffs have been a ratings disaster. When the
Yankees and Red Sox are not both involved, and if
neither involved, it's really a mess. Like last year, the
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same is true for the NBA. You may have Lebron fatigue,
but you definitely want Lebron in the playoffs, even root
against him. You may have Steph and Warrior and Draymond fatigue,
but you still want them in the playoffs. So we
start to play in tournament. It's not the playoffs. I've
pretty much laid out how I think it's going to
(03:01):
work out. We'll discuss more as the show rolls on.
John Middlecoff's going to join us in twenty minutes. We'll
get you ready for the upcoming NFL draft.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yes, dambire, before you move on from the playing games
for your scenario that plays out. I'm just because we
had somebody on last week that you know, you pointed
out the standings and they said, well, hey, if the
season was there was no play in tournament, you wouldn't
have Golden State here with an opportunity to make a push,
(03:35):
or they wouldn't even be in the bracket.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
They would be in the ten seed.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And I think on paper, in this NBA day and
age that we live, that is correct, but I don't
think it's an accurate portrayal of how teams now play
towards the end of the season. The only team that
actually really had urgency was Golden State because there was
(03:58):
at one point where they were battling with the Rockets
to make sure they were in the ten spot, and
then they had a game against the Rockets, kicked the
crap out of them, and the rest was pretty much
history and eliminated any chance that Houston had, And like
so many teams just kind of cruise along and throw
in the towel. I just wonder in all of this
(04:18):
of you know, we look at tonight and we say, yeah,
it's great for the NBA they have Steph Curry and
Lebron James in these games. If you didn't have the
play in tournament, don't you think the urgency towards the
end of the regular season would have been much different?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Of course, yeah, And that's the you know, that's the
other part of it is, wouldn't it be great to
see Lebron James and Steph Curry and in Zion and
all these teams battling it out going down the stretch
where the last two weeks are worthy instead of being like,
all right, well, we may be the sixth seed, but
if we're the seven, at least we're in. We don't
want to do anything foolish. We think we can win
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the seventh seed because I went and looked back at
the play in stand or the NBA standing since the
playing tournament game more than half of the time, Doug,
there's a sizeable gap between the tenth seed and the
eleventh seed. Yes, and I don't think that's great for basketball,
because we know certain teams just throw in the towel.
But I don't think that there's as much urgency. Wasn't
(05:13):
every year. Sometimes it was a game that was a difference,
but more often than not, you had a sizeable gap
because there really wasn't any urgency. And I just I
don't like, Tonight is great, and tomorrow will be great,
and maybe Thursday and Friday will be good as well,
But are we sacrificing the final two weeks of the
season just so we can have these great nights in
(05:34):
the playoffs. I don't know if it's necessarily.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I think the final two weeks of the season were actually okay.
I think it's you know, it's it's the unspoken part
which the NBA is trying to address, and the truth is,
like with the play in tournament, I assume it with
the in season tournament, it's trying to address because I
actually think your point would be even stronger, and I'll
(05:57):
help make it stronger. Is it's not just less would
you have morey throughout the year?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Because everybody was doing what we did in college, which
is like, you don't pay attention to the assignments and
the regular part of this, and then all of a
sudden the finals come up. You're like, oh, I got
a bone up. You're in every study session, you go
and see the professor and you're like, look, dude, had
you just been doing this the whole year, you wouldn't
need the final to help change your final grade. You
(06:22):
wouldn't have to call the professor afterwards and beg for
a little bit extra credit had you just been doing this.
So you're right, it only points out if we didn't
have this with the Warriors, with the Lakers, where they
have spent more time and had more detail and given
guys less day off, less days off, so they wouldn't
be in this. But the difference is I think if
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you look, if you predate the play in tournament, the
ninth spot, there was a gap there oftentimes and those teams,
if they weren't in, they were all tanking. They were
all tanking. And now you have fewer teams tanking and
fewer time to decide you want a tank. So I
think that's really still what's at work. Is it better modestly,
(07:04):
it's the law, like what you're pointing out is the
law of unintended consequences. The intended consequence of this whole
thing is to make more teams competitive at the end
of the year. So it's not just ten, it's eleven, twelve, thirteen.
Think they got a chance and they haven't gotten there.
Baseball has gotten there. Baseball is way more competitive at
the back end. But I think that part has worked
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because you did have the Suns, had to put a
lot more effort into it, had to play those final
couple of games so that he got out of the
play in tournament. So I think it's not we focus
on seven through ten, but five and six are also important,
and then eleven and twelve are kind of important. So
are there scenarios that could make this better?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Absolutely, yes, And there's ways in which you can make
the nd season tournament more important. Is if based upon
your results in the Inca's tournament, it creates some sort
of ongoing score for the regular for the rest of
the regular season. But it's all telling us what we
all know to be true, which is nobody cares about
the regular season, and teams are just now going like,
(08:08):
all right, now, we'll figure it out. And you know,
the Warriors and Lakers seem to get it going a
little bit late, and now the Lakers are in this
position where they don't really want to be the seventh seed.
They want to be the eight, but they can't risk
it tonight. So I do think that's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Seas get degrees, right, that's the old series, yea, yeah, yes, yeah, yeah,
and both these teams got seas. I also think that
the timing of where the NBA is at this point,
meeting Lebron's age, the Trio and golden state of where
they are, that that plays a part into it.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
If this was if this was in the late.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Twenty teams and we were having this where Golden State
is dominant at that time. I think we look at
the play in tournament. I look at the play in
tournament for what we had last year, especially that the
when the you know, Lakers ended up beating Minnesota. But
then you had Oklahoma City when their game, so that
was a shocker. And then they have this fired up
matchup against the Timberwolves and the Timberwolves win it and
(09:06):
get momentum. And I looked at that as like a springboard,
like okay, look out for Oklahoma City, And what a
springboard it was, because now they're the number one overall
seed in the Western Conference. Like we knew, like you know,
good things were on the horizon. It was like when
the I think it was the Clippers a few years back,
ended up going for it and when they they didn't
have to, or you could have just punted on the season.
Instead they went for the eight seed and it paid
(09:27):
off in the long run. Yeah, I think there's more
value in that than there is in giving a safety
net or a lifeline to aging veterans who don't put
that much into the regular shit.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
No, I get it.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
But the other part too, it is it's a lot
like baseball in that in that play in game, you
use your ace, so you lose your ace for the
next series. Right in this, like I think for the
Lakers one game let alone too, and remember these games
are played at a much higher level. Does that Does
it wear you out for the end of a series? Right?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Does it?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Does it wear you down? I don't think it. I
mean obviously didn't last year with the Lakers getting in
and then and then making a little bit of a run.
But it does increase every game, increases the risk of
injury when you have older players, and it does potentially
take time away from you. And for the Warriors, every
game leads you closer and closer to the inevitable Draymond
Green blow up in the suspension right like you can
(10:23):
almost set your watch to it. It's going to happen.
It's just a question of when it When it happened.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I will say this, and I think that it's important
tonight to look at this the play in memories that
I have yeap are been blowouts too, Yes, yes there
have been, but there are also been We mentioned Oklahoma
City last year, John Morant's arrival. None of it has
been Remember what Lebron did in that playing game? Remember what?
Like I don't even I don't even remember. The stories
(10:49):
that have come from this have been about teams who
are trying to make that next level or to become
a playoff team instead of just you know, allowing teams
reason the slack off.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
That's all Stug gottlab Show here on Fox Sports Tradio. Okay,
I have a question for you. Okay, Sam is mister
Iowa in case she didn't know, He's literally mister Iowa.
He's more Iowa than the Iowa Caucasus, right, Iowa your Caucasus. Anyway,
last night, Caitlyn Clark gets drafted and the ladies looked amazing,
(11:25):
and there was a ton of attention given, and we
did do the thing where we pretended like we cared
about the other draft picks. Right, but the truth is,
so here's my belief in it. Right, there's three kind
of three possible Caitlin Clark effects. Does she continue to
(11:46):
get garner the attention that she has gotten. Does that
attention only follow her, does it follow the entire league?
Does it follow all of women's basketball? And look Here's
what's missing. Here's what's missing we have to recognize is
(12:09):
the power of college sports. Right if she plays for
anybody other than Iowa, I'm not sure the response is
the same. I'm just not because Iowa. I've told you this.
Iowa kind of speaks to us. Feels down home, feels
like regular girls, you know, feels like a program that
I had no idea they'd been good, that Lisa Bluter
(12:29):
been this good, this long. Look at her record, she's
been great. Brings attention like, oh, it's just a solid program.
Whereas it feels like whatever you whatever your perception is
of the SEC, it just feels like and there's nothing
nefarious at work. They're not doing anything illegal, but just
feels like, hey, we're gonna load up, go get a
famous coach, go get famous players, throw a bunch of
(12:51):
money at him, and we're gonna win on based upon
that fame. Like all of that, the juxtaposition of the
two really works. Of course, angel Rees being black and
her being white, I think works. I think the whole
story is interesting, But now you take away, did anyone
really know that the Indiana team was called the Fever
(13:11):
until the last couple of days, No, because there's no
like historical, oh rivalry or name recognition. So you take
away any of the brand recognition other than the WNBA,
which you know exists, you don't know anything else about it.
No one knows who the coach of the Fever is,
No one knows who any of the players the Fever are.
There's no following nationally. Obviously locally they've done a good job.
(13:34):
They had ten thousand people in the arena to watch
for be drafted last night. And the reality is, I'm
not sure there's going to be immediate rivals as much
as rivals with the elite players in the league. So
do we think there's a carryover because remember there's a
month between now and then and now in their first game,
(13:57):
their first game is going to be played when the
NBA playoffs are in full swing. Plus the weather starts
to be warm and fewer people start to watch TV,
and those built in rivalries like they they don't cease
to exist, but they're harder to create big games because
the games are happening all the time. Jaycedu, what do
(14:20):
you think her first year is like? Remember, and I
pointed this out that I know WNBA ratings have been up.
Remember this year, they're going to have to take a
break mid season because of the Olympics, and then when
she's on the Olympic team, she will not be the
best player. She probably will not start, which I don't
know what that creates for us in terms of our
(14:41):
expectations and our appreciation of her. What do you think
happens our first year in the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I let's see.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
I think there's going to be an initial excitement. And
you know, we're broadcasting, we're broad casting, We're relating to
the common sports fan. I'm not talking about WNBA fans here,
I'm talking about the common person me. There's going to
be initial interest. We'll pay attention, we'll talk about it
on the show. Then the NBA playoffs will over, will
(15:08):
drown it out. At the end of the NBA playoffs,
we're all going to check in to see if Kaitlyn
Clark is any good, if she's above average to average.
Maybe we tune into a couple of her games and
that lasts throughout the season and I don't think they're
a playoff team, and then it'll just go back to
being the WNBA. Caitlin Clark was just kind of an
average player in this league, and she was a one
(15:30):
off as an Iowa basketball player.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
That's what this is going to be.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Tim Tebow, Tim Tebo, Tim Tebow or Jimmer Furdett. I
think she's better than Tebow and better than Fordet. I
think she'll be really good. Do I think she'll be
the best player in the league. I do not.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Can I just add something, Jimmer Fredett was not an
efficient scorer. He shot a lot and his team's never
went far in the NCAA tournament. She's the greatest scorer
in the history of NCAA if you want to count
both men and women. She's way more than a Jimmer
for debt. I think that's almost sack a disrespect to
compare her to for Debt. Yes, they both shoot a lot,
but she's just like a way better basketball player than
Jimmer for debt, and he's playing in China. I mean,
(16:11):
she's she's still going to be like one of the
premier players in the world.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I think about the last three quarters of the game
against South Carolina. I think about that that As her
WNBA career, she made some shots but was largely marginalized
by bigger and better players.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Sure but she's still opened with eighteen points and she
can adjust her So I said the last three quarters
right right, But she still can't. You can't exclude the
first quarter where she there will also be better players
around her. Absolutely, she's got Boston, She's got they've been
loading up. They've been loading up high picks.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
On the By the way, Jimmer Fordet's senior year at BYU,
he shot forty from three. That's not inefficient, nine to
five from field, that's not an efficient ninety from the line,
and he averaged twenty nine points a game and four
and a half the sister game.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I just remember him shooting a lot.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, and I remember her shooting a lot too. What
were her stats better than his? Were they?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah? Yeah? Okay?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
So what what did she shoot from the field?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
I believe she shot higher than forty five. Okay, But again,
he never he never took an average team deep into
the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
She shot thirty seven point thirty eight from three. That's
a percentage point lower. She shot forty five from the field.
It's the exact same percentage he shot. She averaged thirty
one a game, and she averaged nine assists. To get right,
so she averaged twice the mant of assists.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
She also almost yeah, she's.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Twice number of assists, right if you remember the reason
his team didn't go far in the tournament? Do you
remember what happened? No, His Stars center Brandon Davies got
suspended for the team for an honor code violation. He
had sex I know, I know, and with the woman
he eventually he is married to now and has kids
with Noway, she was a volleyball player now, So yes,
(18:05):
I'm you're making the argument against him, which is the
same argument that Jay Williams made against her, which is
kind of ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Winning and averaging nine assists a game is amazing what
she's been able to do. Okay, but let's not do
the I'm gonna talk ish about jim or Furdett, which
is not the you said he was inefficient. His efficiency
numbers are exactly the same as hers, matter of fact,
(18:34):
slightly better from three. So just go like my bad,
I remember it differently passed. Look at her one more,
look at her career, and I what she probably was
just saying, no, no, no, no, Just start with my bad.
I misremembered it. I didn't remember it. I just gave
you the stats. There is no argue. The thing about
stats is, here's how they work. There is no argument
with them. Okay, I'm listening.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Great, No, no, give me by a percentage point. No, no, no, no,
it's the bare Doug. I'm not going to apologize if
you're not.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Apologizing meeting that you're wrong. Sure, so that's what you do.
This is a big boy stuff. Hey, my bad, I
was wrong.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
You said it? No, no, no, Doug, what do you
what will you.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Bump back with Nirvana's no apologies coming back after?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Don't have to apologize, you have to go my bad,
I had it wrong.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I remember him being remembered. Yeah, I misremembered.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Okay, ye, fair enough. If you want to misremember, you're good.
It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. So, Dan,
what do you think happens? What do you think our
first year is?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Like?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I think that it's I think that it's great, and
I think that I don't know how you talked about
the break with the Olympics in all of their schedule
goes once football season takes over, it's over.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Yes, yep, there'll be people watching maybe the ratings will
be higher than what they were, but she's really filled
in an enormous gap of our attention once football ended.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
No question, I mean really, As I said, I think
it's more an indictment on the men's game than I
than I do on anything else. But it also shows,
you know, what an interesting personal interest story this is.
I just don't know when that wears out?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
When does that? When did like?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I'm good, I'm good, like we don't we still don't
follow Jessica. That fell down a well and it was
all apologies by Nirvana. As I've been getting feedback from
my buddies, I'm so sorry, Sam o, Sam, you're good.
Sam got a little hot there when he got pressed
to say my bad. It's not it's not that. What's that?
What are the kids saying nowadays? It's not that deep,
not that deep.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Papa Roach did no apologies, roche Papa Roach. Well, that's
what it was, Papa Roach. I can't name a Papa
Roach song.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
No apologies there.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I'm gonna apologize for not knowing.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I will apologize as well for not knowing that. That's
my forgetting it wrong.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
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Speaker 1 (21:12):
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(21:33):
and guys, hope you all had a great weekend. I
mean I had an interesting weekend. Right. My daughters turned
eighteen years old, which is just it's so crazy. So
I was talking to one of my daughters yesterday and
(21:53):
I was like, you know, eighteen, it's pretty cool birthday.
She's like, yeah, she went through all the things she
can do. You know, she can buy SIGs, not that
she smokes siggs. She can vote, she can drink in
Mexico but not here anyway. And then and then the
(22:14):
interesting one is, you know one of my daughters drives,
one of them does not. And she's like, hey, now
I got to do is take the driving test. I
don't have to take the written portion of it. Like really, yeah,
aids out of that sucker. So they are a happy birthday.
Both my daughter's Harper and Grace and yesterday was her birthday.
(22:35):
Pretty awesome. Although then you go back through and you know,
her friends encourage me to post funny videos over Harper
because she has a lot of them because she's hysterical,
and but then you start going through the videos and
you're like, man, I literally remember that, like it was yesterday.
She was seven and she was doing this. The days
(22:56):
are long, but the years are quick.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Days long.
Speaker 8 (22:58):
Beer.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Let's have some nostalgia for the weekend? Shall we What
we loved? What we hated? You can chime into at
Gatlieb Show on Instagram at gatlib Show on Twitter. Let's
play the game what did you love? God? I love you?
And what did you hate? Meet these play hays? Okay there,
(23:28):
Let's start with Dan Byer. You're a loving mood? Would
you love from the Weekend.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Prize? Doug?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
No surprise Doug that the Masters would highlight my love
of this weekend. I was locked in and not only Thursday,
but Friday as well Saturday and Sunday. And I know
it didn't live up to everyone's expectations, but I love
how the po Donald Levin came into play on Sunday
(24:02):
with Colin Morikawa and Ludwig Oberg ending up in that
pond because for a while a lot of players want
to play away from it. I liked at one point
we had six players tied from the lead in the
final round. I know it didn't end how many would
have hoped, with a lot of drama, but I just
love Master's Weekend. In fact, I didn't even work yesterday.
(24:23):
It's it's a tradition, unlike any other where. I'm usually
off Master's Weekend because I want to soak it all in.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
That's what I love this weekend.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
All right, Jason Strue, would you love at the beginning?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
This is what I enjoyed.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I didn't see it when it aired, but I watched
the Saturday Night Live of Caitlin Clark. Caitlin Clark was
on Saturday Night Live. I'm sure everybody saw it, and
she was on the uh what is a portion of
the new the News Update.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Weekend end Update?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
And I guess Michael Chay's had some real negative things
to say about women's basket ball, A lot of them
I share. I think he's very funny about it. And
then Caitlyn Kark kind of called him out on the
mat and uh. And it was a good bit, you know,
and it was very scripted, but it was a good bit.
But what I loved about it, if you've got that
sound of what she said on the show, Sam, that
(25:18):
would be great.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
So hold on, I think you're a great basketball player.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I mean I can't play like you do.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Yeah, we know, And obviously I can't tell jokes like
you do.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Thank you for that.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
But I did write some jokes and it would mean
a lot to me if you read some of them
just right over there on the carts.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
Well, the Indiana Fever have the first pick in this
Monday's draft, a reminder that Indiana Fever is a w
NBA team and not what Michael Jack gave to dozens
of women at for Junior University.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
Netflix top new show with Ripley, featuring an eerie, unsettling
performance by actor Andrew Scott. Critics say it's the hardest
thing to watch on Netflix since Michael Chase's special Shame.
I hope you have a great first season.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Thanks. I'm sure will be a big first step for me,
but it's just one step for the WNBA. Thanks to
all the great players like Cheryl Swoops, Lisa Leslie, Cynthia Cooper,
the great Don Staley, and my basketball hero Maya Moore.
These are the women that kicked down the door so
I could walk inside.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
So if you noticed, Caitlin Clark took time out of
our comedy bit to thank the players of the past
that helped pave the way for her. A couple of
those names that she mentioned have taken direct shots at
her over the last few weeks. So Caitlin Clark for
taking the high road, for having the cachet to be
(26:58):
on SNL, I think the first women's or w NBA
player to be on SNL. I loved it. I love
the whole thing. So Caitlyn Clark, congratuation.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
It's amazing that she was on there and it wasn't
It didn't seem like a bad fit, right, It didn't
seem forced. Some of the other women's basketball stuff previously
seemed forced. It didn't. Frankly, I'm sure SNL benefited greatly
from it, all Right, Jill, what about you, Sammy.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Well, it's gonna be more the same Kaitlyn Clark. But
I loved the weekend that Caitlyn Clark had all right,
fly out to La Friday night, pick up your Wooden Award.
You got Jason sudeikis there in your corner. Give give
them a little speech to the audience. Had all kinds
of stars there, coaches, and we mixed out on him.
Yet does that kind of aw.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeh, tell me why he's not really a coach and
yet he continues to play the role of like the
world's most beloved coach.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Listen, I get it, but it's also he's he's a
big star. He's in your corner.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I think it's great that he sort of he's gone
to games there at Carver Hawckey Arena. Anyway, that's just
only a little part of her stellar weekend. See had today,
cause there you're taking pictures of Zach Edy who won
the Men's Wooden Award. All right, then fly out to
New York City, go on Saturday Night Live. That's something
that you know, like last time someone from Iowa did that,
(28:20):
maybe Ashton Kutcher. I don't know. That's a pretty big deal.
That was awesome. And then of course tonight you have
the WNBA Draft and you're a front and center for that.
So I loved Caitlin Clark's weekend. That's what I loved.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Okay, I love the fact that Jackson Holiday got his
first hit yesterday. His whole family was there, and I
was actually texting Matt, who came home with us and
the Dan Patrick Show on Friday, and he's like, yeah,
he's got to get one today because we're going home
after today, Right, he's off on his own, And sure enough,
he did get one. But I mean, I think you
can all. I think it was first thirteen of bats.
(28:53):
He had eleven strikeouts, like just trying too hard, swinging
at everything, and he got one, and it feels like
the rest, I don't know, be easy, but he get
back to being who he is. He's like our player
that we've adopted as this show. And I did feel
the struggles and all the strikeouts and now he's off
the snide and oh yeah, by the way, it helped
(29:13):
the Orioles come from behind and get a win on
a Sunday. That's what I loved.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
And you know it's one of those things too, that
once you get that first one, then that's the fludgates.
I just have a feeling he's gonna have a bunch
of extra base hits this week. He's just gonna get
back to just raking the ball like he always has
like that, and that entire first thirteen at bats. Like
you said, I think nerves and also I think pictures
(29:38):
take it a little bit more personally, like, oh, you're
the number one prospect in baseball. Okay, well how about
this slider piece on the on the on the black.
But no, I think I loved I loved watching him
get that first hit, and I think he's gonna have
a big next couple weeks.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
All right, we'll see, He'll be in Anaheim next week.
Let's get to what we hated from the weekend. We
got start with a resident hater. That's Jason Stewart.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
You know what my my hate actually is, like the
I guess afterthought of my love if you guys remember right,
I'm asking that the listeners are stretcher. But three minutes ago,
my love was Kitlin Clark and the appearance on SNL,
and I played for you what what was really cool
about it? She took the high road and she you know,
(30:25):
basically paid an ode to the players before her. What
I did to appreciate was the reaction of the Kitlin
Clark SNL appearance on Twitter on Twitter. So I don't
know what you call this kind of twitter, SNL twitter,
WNBA twitter. But just to give you one example, here's
(30:47):
one big vanilla funny rights. Yeah, let's celebrate the losers
of the National Championship Game and back to back years
by double digits. Was Angel Reeson last year and Mellow
Cardosa this year. Oh wait, that's right. They wanted to
invite the loser to the White House as well, right,
But I'm sure it's not the media. I think the
(31:09):
implication here is that Kitlin Clark's stardom is a media
creation and it's not a something that she earned or
but there's no merit to it, or she wasn't like
one of the most unique players we've ever seen in
the college basketball. There's there's a lot of hater Ray,
there's a lot of like resentment that I just don't get.
(31:32):
I don't get where that's coming from. I'd never have
understood the resentment of Kitlin Clark taking the game to
the next level. It's almost like a lot of you
people would rather the game not get bigger than to
have it get bigger with Kitlin Clark. It's very strange
to me, and I can't stand that.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Okay, I agree with you. I mean that the it
hits hysterical like, but the problem is that some people
don't even know what's good for them, right, they don't
know what's good for him, Like, look, this helps everybody.
Rising tide lifts all ships, and they can't get out
of their own way and their competitive nature. Athy. It's
also a league that has played the victim for a
(32:13):
long time too, so it's you know, no one can
take a compliment. They just can't dan byer something you
hate it from the weekend.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
This may be a shock to some, but a run
mid February, when my team's not in the Super Bowl,
I kind of get a little exhausted of football, you know,
like when we were a Super Bowl week, you know,
at that point, it's like.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Let's just get the game.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Let's get the game here, and I'm kind of ready
to have football not in my life for you know,
like it dominates from August all the way to February.
And one of the things that I have to look
forward to is this four week stretch of college basketball
and Championship Week into the NCAA Tournament and then the
(32:59):
NCD Tournament ends on a Monday, and what do you know,
that's the first day of Masters week. And now that's over,
and it's a sad time. Not that there aren't things
that I won't look forward to, like the PGA Championship
next month or football. Yes, and it's but it's also
it's also a break from football because football is so
(33:22):
dominates our lives in the fall, and so now that
time and so now I'm looking ahead the summer. But
the worst day of the sporting calendar for me is
the day after the Masters, because then I got to
wait another whole year for it to come along. So
I'm I know they say, smile that it happened, don't
cry that it ended, but still still difficult on this
(33:43):
sort of day.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Okay, what about you there, Sammy.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
I am going to co sign Jason Stewart's hate topic
for the week. I'm co signing on that. I'm not
co signing on what Jill Biden did last year saying
the loser come on out too. I don't I don't
endorse that, but I will endorse the words of Jason
Stewart here. And here's kind of a something that was
I hated, but it was also amusing yesterday. I think
(34:12):
it was yesterday. Manny Machado hit a home run. Former
Dodger hit a home run into the crowd at Dodger Stadium,
and one a guy who caught the ball, he threw
it back or did he He actually had a decoy
ball in his pocket and threw it back on the
field so he could keep the Machado home run ball,
which is you know, he's gonna get a lot of
flak for that, but it's it's funny. It's it's it's
(34:35):
something I'm like, oh man, that's lame, but it's also
kind of amusing.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
So wait, did you hate it? Or did you like it?
All right?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I kind of liked it.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Did the Dodgers then try to shake him down for
the real ball? So that he went to the padres
and hell, here's a box of chocolates and that's it.
That's all you get, some.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Buzz the peanuts. The funny thing about that whole thing
was the guy says that he has caught more than
twenty his life. And as a person who's spent fifty
one years on this planet and it has gone to
hundreds of Major League Baseball games, I've never once caught
a ball at a baseball game.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I haven't either.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I haven't attended as many baseball games yet. Now, I
will tell you that a good portion of it is
strategic planning. And I believe I could be wrong, Jason,
but you have reached the sneak seat snobbery moment of
your life. And here's the thing. The better the seats,
the least likely you already get a ball.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I wouldn't say that, I would net above you.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
There's a net in front of you. When was the
last time you sat in the bleachers? No?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
No, I haven't in quite some time.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Okay, so there you go.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Remember Kendrick Klamar sat in the bleachers a couple of
years ago. If Kendrick climark and I can, I mean, you're.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Going to fry in the sun, but you have a
better chance of catching a meaningful ball.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Well, the sun's not that hot out here in southern
California just yet. We're supposed to have a couple of
nice days.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Middle of the week in July and.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
That like sure, But you sayso afternoon night games. Okay,
I'll get to what I what I hate it was
I there were so many games which I were told
were important on Sunday, and yet some teams didn't even
try on Sunday in the I'm talking about the NBA, right,
The NBA was it was this, oh my god, biggest
(36:23):
Sunday and I and there's so many moving parts. I
literally needed somebody to explain to me before and during
every game what was taking place. And I couldn't get that.
There's just too many things working in real time, and
so I had to shut it off. I went back
to the masters, I went outside. I did some stuff
with my kids, because you know, I told you my
daughter's birthday and I was like, you know, I just
(36:45):
tell me what happened when it's over. So who plays who?
Because I had no concept of what was going on.
And then you know, like you we're told these games matter.
And then Oklahoma City was they had what'd they have
at halftime? They had like eighty two at the half?
It was like eighty two to forty at a half
(37:06):
or something like that. Against Dallas. I'm like, wait, are
we taking these games seriously or not? Apparently the answer
for Oklahoma City was yes. For Dallas was now. So
Sonny was really confusing for me. And then now that
the dost settles. It's a little bit less confusing and
that's love.
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(38:00):
I truly do. I want to get into some Kaitlin
Clark stuff in a second, but I saw this from
Brian Winhurst. NBA scouts don't think Bronnie James was able
to put his best foot forward this year because USC
didn't play him in his position. They say he should
play somewhere or he can be the point guard, Like
(38:22):
what are we doing? They say he should play somewhere
where he can be the point guard and build up
his skills. So all of these stories are the same, okay,
and we can do this more in the podcast. But again, buyer,
(38:44):
you're a really good guy. If I'm not making sense,
if it doesn't all equal out at the end. Please
feel free you can call me. I'm not because things
that work out my brain sometimes don't come out of
my mouth. I don't know if anybody else is like that.
But if you go back, like a year and a
half ago, there was a lot of discussion about the
NFL and Eric Enemy not being hired, and there is
(39:06):
as well the NFL owners are inherently racist because otherwise,
why wouldn't you hire Eric Vienemy? Right? You even had
people that would say, you know, owners want to hire
somebody that can take around to their buddies, Like that's
somebody who says that has no idea how the NFL works,
Like there's no boosters, there's no donors, there's no handshaking.
(39:27):
It's I give you a job. Do I want to
be able to be around you? Like sure, but that's
not really what's important. Can you get along with the
front office? Can you get along with your coaches? Can
you guys win football games? That's all that matters. And
I've talked to plenty of gms and presidents and their
whole thing is like Will adding, said coach Will adding,
(39:47):
will any of this help us win games more? And
so the job of a GM or a president or
an owner when they're trying to find the right coaches.
What is going to help us win the most football games,
the longest, the most with the most, the quickest, and
for the longest period of time. We want to sustain excellence.
(40:09):
It's pretty simple. The more games you win, the more
everybody is happy. Why because you know, players get bonuses. Okay,
players get bonuses, uh. General managers and coaches get extensions.
And when they get extensions, they get to stay living
where they live or maybe buy a better house and
(40:29):
they don't have to move because families hate that. People
hate moving, hate leaving their job. And assistant coaches, in
addition to making more money and being able to say
they also get opportunities to go get other jobs, are
the same thing as front office. So the only thing
that's important in professional sports is winning. And so what
we have a group of people. We have a group
(40:50):
of people who are in the media, and many of
them are on social media as well that aren't in
the media. But we have a group of people within
media who believe that there's such nefarious intentions from people
in power that despite the fact that the number one
and really only objective is to win football games. That
(41:11):
they go like, yeah, we could win with Eric b Enemy,
but you know he's black, so let's find a white
guy who can do almost as good. It doesn't make
any sense, right, If your job is to win, then
you get whoever the best man, woman, non binary, I
don't really care. You just win football games? Makes sense? Sure? Okay,
(41:34):
So then we have this there's this argument that has
popped up, and it really was I think Jamel Hill
probably triggered it the most because she has the biggest
social media following where she put out a picture of
three WNBA players or somebody else put a picture that
(41:56):
somebody else put a picture, but then she retweeted or whatever.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Quote tweeted a Sporting News tweet that had the three
players that have signature shoe deals with the shoe companies.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Right, and those three are Brianna Stewart, Sabrina I and
SQ and now Caitlin Clark, who signed a reportedly eight
figure deal to be with Nike, which of course caused
Jamel Hill to do the which I find super disingenuous.
Were they all have in common? I've see all three
(42:32):
are white. So what Jamel Hill would lead you to
believe is, for example, Nike and Nike, who has they
gave Colin Kaepernick a bunch of money? I'm not really sure.
And they had that cool commercial, but I'm not really
sure there was was there any product Colin Kaepernick that
he sold? And they have been at the forefront for
(42:53):
women's sports for a long time. These aren't the first
shoes they've ever put out in a woman's name. And
by the way, Sabrina I and SQ shoes are the
number one seller. Now, some of that is a little
bit disingenuous because they use it as their team shoe,
which means college teams get them automatically, like those are
the shoes that everybody gets, and then high school teams
when they order shoes from Nike, those are the ones
(43:13):
they get. It's a great shoe, and really it's the
Kyrie Irving shoe that when Kyrie, when they had to
get rid of Kyrie, these were the next shoes down
the pipe, and they just slapped Sabrina's logo on it.
And Sabrina, who is a great college player and as
a good professional player, I don't know if she's great
like I legit, have no idea, don't actually care to know.
But obviously she did the three point shooting shootout with Staph.
(43:36):
She has a relationship there. But the fact she went
to Oregon and I'm sure Steph would wanted to put
her in his shoe at under armour help get her
own shoe, and they've killed it. But the the wondering aloud,
which is again disingenuous, like if you think people are racist,
then go ahead say it, because then you'll be made
to look as foolish as you really look. But that
(44:00):
Nike would Nike could make a bunch of money on
Dan Byr. How do you say her name? Is it
a Jai Wilson? How do you how do you wis?
Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yeah, Sabrina Escu, you don't even have to bree.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I appreciate it. Asia Wilson, who's apparently a two time
league MVP. I know she's the best player in Vegas,
right and they won the championship, and you know, like, well,
why doesn't she have her own shoe? So again you're
sitting on your phone or on your computer or in
front of a microphone, and you're actually saying that Nike
(44:37):
as a as a publicly traded Fortune five hundred company,
that has been well ahead of everything in terms of
of of all of the different social justice or injustice
issues and women in sports. They would sacrifice all that
equity because in their heart of hearts, their race, they
(45:00):
don't want black women to sell their sneakers. That's that's
the presumption that's made right Again, this is a company
that they get rid of anything that doesn't have I believe,
twelve percent growth year to year or more. So you're
saying that Nike like, yeah, listen, we could sell a
lot of shoes, but let's not do it because she's black.
Asia Wilson's black. We don't want to do that. That's
(45:22):
what her tweet said without saying it, which is I
think even weaker. And here's the now. Now you have
Brownie James, and well, they didn't use him the right way.
They didn't develop him as the point guard. Well they
had first of all, they had that Isaiah Collier, who
(45:46):
is the number one rated prospect in the country, who
is a point guard. And oh yeah, by the way,
so what you're saying is Annie Enfeld. Annie Enfeld, rather
than trying to win games, he wont to keep Bronnie
down because he didn't see him as a starting point guard,
and so that's why he didn't play point Like that's
(46:07):
what we're actually saying. How does this make sense to anybody? Anybody?
Are those things parallel each other?
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Do you do?
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Do I make any sense to you? Buy or my
two foot all over the place?
Speaker 2 (46:18):
I think Bronnie's situation is just so unique considering who
he is, what his last name is, heck, what his
first name is, and even just considering his health situation.
In tying into the story that you're just talking about
for what the career was at USC or what we
expected it to be at USC, I think that also
(46:39):
played a big part of it. So I just think
that bronnie situation is just very very unique.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
It is it is, and I think all these situations
in fact are unique. But I think the one parallel
is like we do know that that, Yeah, people play
who they think is going to help them win the most, right,
he plays somebody who's going to help you win. That's
coaching one on one Like why would Amy Nfeld not
(47:08):
play him at point guard if he thought he was
the best point guard or gave them the best chance
to win. And by the way, Bronnie did start at
point guard several games when Isaiah Hollier was out. They
didn't win a lot of those games. So I just
it doesn't mean the coaches are always right. It doesn't
mean that businesses are always right. It doesn't mean it
(47:32):
doesn't mean that that coaching decisions and who we pick
are always right. It's just where did this decision come from?
And generally, I think in business you make the decision
that where you're going to be able to make the
most money. And when you're a coach, your only goal
is to win the most games. Who gives me the
(47:52):
best opportunity to win?
Speaker 4 (47:57):
Jase, what do you think I think we should play
the what Don Stane always said about Caitlin This.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
Is good.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
I like people who get it. I like people who
get it, and there's lots of people in our business
that don't get it. You know, I saw a cut
and I sent it to you. I believe Chase too.
I don't know if I sent to everybody. I saw
a clip yesterday Pablo Torre was on with who is
he on with? When? Uh? He was on What's same
(48:28):
Levatard show? Right? Yeah, so so take a listen to
Pablo Torre talking with LeBatard about the w NBA.
Speaker 9 (48:38):
Just marvel and just marvel truly, Like when you say
w NBA, the first thing you think of is wow,
that ratings monster, Like we have not seen this dad,
Like I had Morgan Murphy on my show on Friday
to talk about what it's like actually when you've been
rooting and watching and consuming and trying to evangelize people
on your favorite sport. She's one of the She's the
(48:59):
big women's basketball fan I know in my life, and
she's been trying to convince people for twenty years this
is worth it, and it's finally happening, and there's comedy, right,
and not merely you being proven right, but also the
dynamic of what happens when everybody starts like gentrifying the
thing you love. And so I was a bit of
(49:20):
this with Lucy and Iowa. But the way it's happening
at scale here with Kaitlyn Clark and women's basketball is
funny because you have to handle this unprecedented problem, A
deeply unpopular thing, seemingly overnight is now popular, and now
you are both vindicated and infuriated that everybody has takes
delivered with the confidence of people who've been there for
(49:42):
as long as you have, and that is both a
sign that you've made it and is also your personal hell,
like a genie cursed you with the wish that they
granted with the footnote of And by the way, now
Steven A is gonna have takes about Caitlin Clark that
are gonna make you infuriated, like that's it's an amazing thing.
We've just never seemed before in American sports.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
Okay, I would I would correct him on several levels.
Probably the biggest one, though, is I don't believe that
there's any metrics that says the sport is suddenly now
popular or that it was. I like that he admits
it was unpopular. I probably actually think that's true. I
don't like the term unpopular, whereas it just kind of
(50:24):
existed and we didn't care about it. But it was
on on some levels unpopular. I mean, I think that's
but I think it was unpopular on some leve you know,
I think it was unpopular for for reasons not having
to deal with, not having to do with with the
actual play. It's the the constant need for affirmation that
(50:46):
you're somehow good. But that's honestly, how WNBA people think
it's like this thing has been awesome all along, and
now of a sudden people are saying we're awesome when
you're supposed to say we're sorry. Here's the truth to it.
Here's what Don Staley, who is now the head coach
(51:07):
of the back to back defending national champions South Carolina
game Cocks, said about the Kaitlin Clark effect.
Speaker 10 (51:13):
I want basketball women's basketball to grow, and I'm not
too shy about saying why it grows. She's made it
grow over the past two years. We need to make
sure that we're telling the stories of our entire game.
So sometimes you have to go against the masses to
really cut down and say what's happening, you know, in
(51:34):
real time? Kaylen Clark is the sole reason why viewership
has shot through the roofs for our game.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yes, why is that so hard to admit? Now? Can you,
as Don proposed, can you tell other stories like once
you now have a bigger audience, Course of course you can.
I don't know if people stay tuned. My guess is
that they won't. My guess is that this is a
bit of a passing phase. And now she moves on
(52:05):
to the pro ranks. It kind of gets lost up.
It's a summer sport. It's cut up by the Olympics.
There's no built in rivalries. You don't have the brand
names of the team, like people can't name the names
of the teams. That's actually a big thing. But I'm
we're all gonna see it kind of play out in
real time. But at least she's admitting that there's not
(52:27):
any other reasons. There's only one reason people are paying attention.
It's Caitlin Clark. And instead you will get people like
Jamel Hill who are like, well, you know, they're only
paying it. Basically, they're only paying attention to her because
she's white, and that sucks. Do I think the color
of her skin plays a factor? Sure, church part of
(52:49):
the story. I've told you. I think her sexual orientation
plays a part of the story because the league was
seen as a league for lesbians. Ok just and and
you could say, like there'll be people listening like, oh
my god, like where everybody's sitting there nod in their
head like Okay, again, it's not a thing to me.
(53:12):
I don't care. But it's a definitely a different environment,
different subculture. It's just different, and some people an't comfortable
with that, whereas they're super comfortable with Caitlin Clark. She's
got straight brown hair, looks like she has her hair
is just like my daughter's hair. But I will tell
(53:33):
you the the WNBA fan out there is more obnoxious
than Eagle fans, right because Eagle fans know we don't
like them, but they don't care. And the Eagles have
at least won two Super Bowls here in the last
six seven years, whereas WNBA fans are acting like we're
(53:54):
all idiots for not celebrating the sport that nobody really
can pay attention to and nobody really cared about for
a long time, and we're supposed to apologize for it,
like we don't like you and you care anyway. Stut
Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, I honestly would
(54:17):
tell you I never would have thought in my life
we would still be talking about women's basketball at this
point in time, but we are. That is the power.
That is the power of Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (54:29):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Sam. You're obviously a big Iowa guide. That's why you're
trying to get tickets. You're gonna go on. Can you
can you name how many w NBA team names? Can
you name?
Speaker 3 (54:46):
Well, there's only twelve, probably could name eight. Go Las
Vegas Aces, Okay, La Sparks, Yeah, let's go Seattle Storm nice, Okay,
let's go Chicago Sky, Yeah, let's go Connecticut Sun. Let's
(55:08):
go New York Liberty.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
Yes, that's six.
Speaker 3 (55:11):
Let's go Indiana Fever.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Yep, Let's that's it. I think hold on now, hold
on now, I think that's about it.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
Hold up, now, hold up. I'm missing something. I'm missing something.
I'm missing I mean of seven and I got five more? Man,
how about this?
Speaker 4 (55:26):
We listened to it, if we think about it over
the break and gotta go.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
I got close,
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Doug Gottlieb
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