July 5, 2025 • 47 mins
On this edition of The Best Of The Week Of The Doug Gottlieb Show:Doug explains what irritates him most about Lebron James opting into his contract with the Lakers for this next season.
Doug welcomes former All-Star and three-time World Series champ Curt Schilling onto the show to talk about Clayton Kershaw and the state of pitching in Major League Baseball.
In this installment of The Midway, Doug and the crew discuss what they are most looking forward to seeing play out over the second half of the year.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:29):
Hope you had a great weekend. Hope you listen to
my guy Dan Byer yesterday or throughout last week as
he's filling up the radio hours. He's back with us today.
Excited to have dB along. Of course, you got Jason
Stewart as a producer and my guy I was Sam
on the ones and two is welcome in. Rick Buker
(00:51):
is going to join us about twenty five after the hour.
We'll talk a little bit. Caitlin Clark also a new
ad with Caitlin Clark, which I give it my thoughts on.
We got a big football trade. Is Jalen Ramsey's now
Pittsburgh Steelers. We got all the things to get to.
Let me start with Lebron James Rich, Paul is Lebron
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James agent Rich Paul was the guy who Lebron met,
I think selling jerseys out of the back of his car, right,
So he's part of, you know, starting from the bottom.
Now we're here, and he had this statement to ESPN.
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Lebron wants to compete for a championship. Paul told ESPN.
He knows the Lakers are building for the future. He
understands that, but he values a realistic chance at winning
it all. We're very appreciative of the partnership that we
had for eight years with Genie and Rob Lincoln consider
the Lakers as a critical part of his career. We
understand the difficulty in winning now while preparing for the future.
We do want to evaluate what's best for Lebron at
this stage of his life and career. He wants to
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make every season he has left count and the Lakers
understand that supportive of what of want what's best for him.
I will tell you how that lands with me one
word poorly, poorly, And there are lots of different ways
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to explain why it lands poorly, but here's the easiest.
You have to match up your actions with your words.
If Lebron wants to win a championship, Well, then why
would you opt into a deal that pays you fifty
three million dollars? Because ear's out really works. If you
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want to win, you know, you got to take less
so that you can pay more to go out and
get guys on the free agent market. I mean, and
if you want to guarantee yourself a big fat paycheck,
what you can do is you can backload a contract,
do it as a player only option, and you play
a year with the Lakers and oh yeah, by the way,
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if if it doesn't work out, you want to retire,
you know, you had them by their way out of
an opt out or whatever, or you going somewhere next year.
There's a million different things you can do. But you
can say you're appreciative of Genie and Rob Polinka, your
actions are far different because if you're really appreciative, why
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would you release the statement? If you really want to
win a championship, why'd you release the statement? How it
lands on me is poorly because it feels like the
Lakers and Lebron has talked about it and he always
couches it with you. I understand. Now we're building around Luca.
This is Lebron James and Rich Baull pouting and trying
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to exert some sort of leverage that doesn't actually exist.
This is no different than Lebron when he was leaving Miami,
when he was leaving Cleveland the second time leaking out
there that could be interested in the San Antonio Spurs
who had no interest in Lebron James. Because you can say, hey,
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we're really appreciative, but the reality is, are you right?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Let me make this clear, over the past year, just
the past year alone, We'll make it thirteen months a year.
Is that? Okay? Over the past year, the Lakers have
hired a guy he co hosted a podcast with as
the head coach of the Lakers, and look, I get it,
like I'm not that different from the JJ Reddick higher
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but it's the head coach of the Lakers and they
hired him. Okay. They also drafted Bronnie James and then
all made statements like Bronnie had earned the right to
be a second round pick when that's not even close
too accurate. Then they played Bronnie the first game of
the season and throughout times in the NBA season, Well,
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give him a guaranteed four year contract, despite the fact
he was like, what, the fifty fifth pick in the
NBA draft, So the worst thing they did. And then
if you predate that, they went out and got Anthony Davis.
They overpaid for Anthony Davis. Why he was a Rich
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Paul client. And when they struck out the first time round,
they went back in the offseason and went after him
and got him. Overpaid for him. Remember they got Russell
Westbrook on the LA Lakers. Why they were going to
get Demarta Rosen, that was the guy. Well documented, Demarta
Rosen was going to be the third guy. But what
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happened was Lebron was like, nah, we like Russell Westbrook better.
They overplayed for Russell Westbrook, and then midway through his
first year with the Lakers, Lebron just did what Lebron
does where he doesn't say anything negative, but he just
ignores passive aggressive, moves on and ultimately they moved off
Russell Westbrook. So we overpaid for Anthony Davis, we trade
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for Russell Westbrook, we hire JJ Reddick, we draft and
play Browny James. All of these things would not have
happened if not for Lebron wanting them to happen. There's
a million other things. And you have fifty three and
change million dollars on a contract, and you say you
want to win. And the only thing you say, after
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having the opportunity to opt out of that rework your
deal have more money for the Lakers to play with,
is that's great, but we're going to keep our options open.
That sounds like the least no matter. You can say
you're grateful, but it's words, it's actions, not words. And
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and what you have done and what the Lakers have
done for you is support you the best way possible.
Remember of Lebron's seasons with the Lakers, how many of
them have ended in injury? How many seasons? How many
games does he played in the regular season? You remember
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when he started playing a ton of games in the
regular season. That was the year he was going for
the all times scoring mark. And so if you ask
Lebron about Lebron, I get he's the most selfish, unselfish
guy there is. Yeah, he likes to pass the ball,
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but he likes to pass the ball because he wants
you to score and get the assist and he wants
it to be about Lebron. His agent tries to make
this about leverage that they don't have. Look, if you
really want to challenge of Lakers to going out and
making a championship team, Lebron's gonna opt out. He's gonna
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see what the Lakers do. He's willing to take less
money if their plan makes sense. That's not what he says.
He says, we're gonna take your money and then we're
gonna think about what we want to do in the future.
And what this does is it sours so many people
on Lebron James when, as I've stated previously, in comparison
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to other star athletes, right know, off the court, nonsense, none, zero.
But there is a transactional nature to how he approaches
playing for a team. And I've told you guys, since
he got to LA and throughout this process, you can play.
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He's gonna play eight years in LA. Lebron James plays
for the Lakers, is not a Laker because what Laker
fans want, what Laker fans desire is Lebron James wants
to do one thing before he calls it a career,
win another championship with the Lakers. And what he said
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is I want to win a championship. I don't think
we can do it with the Lakers, So why are
we paying you fifty three million hours? Bud? Oh? Yeah.
By the way, if you don't think Luca is good enough,
then how did Luca get to the finals without you?
The whole thing is a massive contradiction and a statement
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of being ungrateful. And there's lots of things that turn
people off and things that turn people on. The number
one thing that turns me off in my lifetime is
people are not grateful. People are not appreciative. There are
no perfect human beings. Either we see the positive things
that people bring or we harp on the negative things.
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And if you're appreciative of the positive, it doesn't mean
that the negatives don't exist. But at least it gives
respect for somebody working through whatever they're working through while
giving you the best that they have. I just for
a guy that has done so many of the right things,
this statement is so about the wrong things to me. Byer,
(10:21):
what do you think of Rich Paul's statement and how
it lands on you as somebody who's not from La Okay,
but you know LA sports fans, the Lakers and the
sports world at large.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, this topic is so many different ways to tackle it,
and I am not opposite yours. If you're at noon
or twelve o'clock, I'm maybe at ten o'clock on it.
When I read it, it felt like Rich Paul was
trying to take the narrative away from the Lakers. And
(10:57):
how I read it was, prior to the team acquiring
Luka Doncic, it had been all about Lebron stuff that
you laid out, even to the fact of hiring JJ Reddick. Well,
now Luca comes along, and I'm sure the Lakers and
Lebron had discussions about how things are going to go.
But if there was no Luca, why wouldn't Lebron just
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sign another one on one deal, get max money for
one hundred and five hundred and six million dollars on
a two year deal and go through this whole charade again.
And I don't mean charade that it's a farce, but
that's what he did last offseason, had the one and
one which allowed him to have this player option that
he opted into. But to me, it seems like he
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wasn't going to get his fifty million anywhere else and
at least this offseason, and now it allows teams a
year in advance to maybe look at things, and it
allows them a year in advance to plot where they
want to go next. But I just took the statement, Doug,
is them stealing the narrative of the Lakers saying that
they don't need Lebron anymore. And I compared it to
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a marriage. There are different types of marriages that span
the spectrum. There are those that are madly in love
and madly in love for fifty years. There are marriages
that are made out of convenience. And this was a
convenience marriage between the two sides, and when one didn't
need the other as much as the other, then it
breaks away. And I felt that that's where the Lakers
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were coming from and saying, yeah, that one in one
deal not necessarily great for us. We're not interested. So
Lebron will opt in, get his money, and then he
can figure out where he's going to play next and
have his farewell to her.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Then that's how I took this statement.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah, you bring up the marriage analogy. It's great if
it's the difference in if you've been married once or
married three or four times, how you view your wedding
day right, How you eat your wedding day, sure, you know.
And if you've been married three times, I mean, I
don't know this one compares to the other one's wedding
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day whatever, you've been married one time, Like, I mean,
it's literally the it's the culminating moment of two lives
joining together hopefully forever. Hm, you know, and it's it's
it's fascinating. So here's a dude who's been with a
bunch of different teams and it doesn't mean as much
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to him. There's not the emotional connection to the Lakers.
But for the Lakers, there's an emotional connection to Lakers. Remember,
the Lakers used to play in Inglewood. Inglewood was known
as the City of champions. Only one team played out
in Inglewood. That was the Lakers. The Lakers are the
team known for championships. So you say, like, do you
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know how offended hardcore Laker fans are? Right, let me
get this straight. You were our rival and now you
join us. You're a guy who's bounced to several teams.
You're replacing Kobe Bryant, who, though there was a time
he wanted off the team, never played for another team. Right,
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Kobe was about one thing and one thing only, and
that's winning. Killing anybody in his pad, whether he did
the right way or not, he did it with the
intent of winning, and again, always was a Laker. So
you're replacing Kobe with a guy who was a Kobe rival,
who's bounced to a bunch of teams, and throughout his
time in LA he has never really bonded with Laker
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fans and been a Laker for life. I never want
to go anywhere else. That's what they want to hear.
I think you nailed it. In terms of Luca. I
think Luca is now the star. Lebron's a little butt
hurt over it. Well, you mean I don't get to
call the shots anymore? Like no, dude, right, wouldn't stun
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me if there was some conversation about Bryce and they
were like, yeah, the brownny thing, We're good, Sure, we're good,
We're good.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
It's a it seems, I don't want to say, like
a formality. But there was just so many different ways that,
so many different places you can go with all of this.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Look again, I'm going to compare it to my job
outside of radio in coaching basketball. Like I don't get
I don't get offended when a guy they walk in,
they want to they want to go in the portal.
They want to go in the portal. But like, hey,
we helped you with get your move your girl here.
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We helped your family. We helped you get into school,
stay in school. We gave you everything. We we got
your thoughtics, we got you extra massages, we got you
an IV when you were sick. We you know, we
had a tutor come and stay. You know, we did this,
we did that. We blah blah blah blahlah. And you don't.
You can't have an honest conversation about leaving you just
your deuces. You're out like that ain't cool, right, That's
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what this is. We overpaid for Anthony Davis. We didn't
want Russell Westbrook. You did, and then you wanted to
get rid of Russell Westbrook ran through all these coaches
you didn't want. Okay, Then we go and you want
to coach, We go hire JJ Reddick. Then we draft
Bronnie James. Okay, now I gotta play Brian James. We
gotta give Bronnie a four year guaranteed contract, which nobody
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gets when you're fifty fifth pick in the NBA. Draft
for playing a game, but he got one. Like we
did all these things. We went all in and you
were like, yeah, it's cool, LA's fine, it's fun. Whatever.
And part of it is also calling his bluff. They
don't think and I don't think he's going anywhere else.
But if he doesn't do a goodbye tour then yet, dB,
(16:37):
I think you are right. He'll have his goodbye tour
somewhere else.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
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Speaker 1 (16:48):
It's the Doug gott Leeb Show, Fox Sports Radio. And
coming off a night where Clayton Khrushaw has his three
thousandth strikeout, who better to give us some context than
a guy who I mean elite, elite in terms of
all sports, clutch pitchers, clutch players in the history sports.
(17:08):
Kurt Chilling joints US World Series Champion. He joined us
now on The Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Kurt three thousand strikeouts in a seventeen year story career
in which he's been a part of two World Series championships.
What does the three thousand strikeouts signify to you? Watching
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Clayton Kershaw work last night?
Speaker 6 (17:31):
You know, what first balls Hall of Fame human beings
Clayton is. You know, I follow I remember a god.
I can't remember like much of it, but I remember
him when when the talk about him coming up, and
because it was right our career passed, didn't really cross.
But he was as advertised, he did some stuff for
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a period of time that you look for in greatness,
and he continued. I mean his postseason struggles aside as
your first gout Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Okay, but it's interesting, it's unique, right, it wasn't You
weren't a bad pitcher in the regular season. You were
very good. He was doumb in the regular season, but
there were struggles in the postseason. You're most known for
your postseason success. Okay, So what's the reality to how
fair is that? Because a Clayton Kershaw defender will say, well,
(18:24):
limited limited sample size, although he's been in a bunch
and they'll say it was later innings and he wore
down because he pitched so much in the regular season,
what's the reality to it? As somebody who's who's kind
of the opposite no more for the postseason of the
regular season.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Well, you know what, I don't You're either good or
not in October. There is no in between, and it's
as much a mindset as anything. You know, from a
workloadspect You could come up with a hundred excuses as
to why someone doesn't succeed in October, and there's probably
truth to the ninety of them in some semones or
some sense. Some guys just aren't bill for October. And
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you know, he played to win the ring, so it would.
I mean, that was why I think most of us played.
He's got two. You know, he just hasn't had his
October moments. But I don't think it takes away from
a Hall of Fame career.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I here's something interesting. I don't know if you know this. Uh,
coming into last night, he had the exact same number
of wins as you had. And I say that because
you know again yeah, yeah, to sixteen to sixteen. Yeah,
it feels like an answer. I know. But will we
ever have another three hundred game winner?
Speaker 6 (19:38):
No, not right now, not right now. You know, I've
been doing some work pre draft work, and you know,
I'm thinking about stepping back into the game on the
hitching side of things, because pitching in the big leagues,
pitching across baseball and amateur for face broken is horribly broken,
and it needs to be fixed. There needs to be
(20:01):
I say this term loosely, but there needs to be
a moneyball sort of renaissance with pitching. The hunter velocity
has destroyed the art and and and that's I mean,
that's why you're seeing the massive increase in arm injuries
and all the things to go with that, and and organizations.
(20:23):
I mean, listen, I did I did some work on
this draft, and I'm not going to name names because
these kids are coming up to one of the most
special days in their lives. But if I'm a major
league team, there are two or three, at least two
guys I wouldn't touch with your first round pick, and
they're going to go in the first round. One of
them is probably going to go very high, and they're
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it's just not physically possible for these guys to be
healthy five six years from now. I mean, it's just
if you look down the sport, you go back and
watch video and history, guys that throw like these guys
don't laugh. They never have and they never will and
it's not their fault. But pitching is broken in baseball
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right now. And you know. That's why your schoolbls stand out.
Yond that's why Jacob de gram was set to be
maybe the best pitcher that ever lived if he hadn't
gotten hurt. He was Greg Maddix with at ninety eight, right,
I mean that is Pedro at ninety eight. I mean
just but again, it's broken. It's horribly broken. And the
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clinics that are teaching these guys to throw hard at
the cost of being a pitcher is one of the big.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Big reasons the podcast is called The Complete Game. You
need to watch it on YouTube. That's probably the easiest
way to do it, to subscribe to that channel. Kurt
Shilling is our guest. Of course, that's his podcast. He
joined us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. We talk about young pictures and last night
I'm watching Jacob Misrowski, who of course is the is
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the rookie with the Brewers who before last night hadn't
been touched right, and then he had just one inning
where infield hit could have been a potential out, could
have got him out of the inning. He doesn't, gives
up a home run and then a back to back Okay,
so you break this stuff down. His velo is a
little down last night is Misowski? Is he a guy
(22:28):
here to stay or is he a guy that I
don't think that lasts.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
I like him better than I like a lot of
young guys. A couple episodes ago I talked about him. Uh,
there's a much more polished delivery than than a lot
of these other guys I'm talking about, especially for his age.
The problem is he's not ready for the big legs.
I don't care about this stuff. He hasn't back. And
(22:56):
you know, I know I sound archaic, and I sound
like the old guy. Get off my long guy. But
back in the day, you went through the minor league
by mastering the level you were at and moving on sure, right,
And each level is a little bit more effort. Each
level is a little bit mentally and physically harder, and
there's a gradual process to getting to the big leagues.
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And I used my personal analogy. When I got to
the big leagues, I made my debut, had a decent start,
went seven innings, and then I got my ass handed
to me for three three games, and I drove home
that winter. And the thing I tell everybody it was
a similar moment in my career because I drove from
Baltimore to Phoenix, Arizona, and during the drive, I had
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an epiphany and it was, hey, you know what, I'm
not ready, but I can do this. And that came
from having five to six seven hundred innings in the
minor leagues I threw. I had a couple two hundred
inning seasons in the minor league. I threw eight or
nine complete games in a couple of different minor league seasons.
I knew how to pitch in the eighth inning and
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the ninth inning and with runners in scoring position. Those
are all the things you learned. I learned how to
pitch inside in the minor league, none of them. So
what I basically I'm saying is I had the toolbox
when I got to the big leagues, I just figure
out how. I had to figure out how to use
the tools. These guys get the big leagues, they don't
have the toolbox, and I use a guy like Chase
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Dollander in Colorado. These guys are coming up with fifteen
Triple A inns and you know, one hundred and sixteen
minor league innings spread out over two and a half seasons.
There's this enormous rush to get these guys to the
big leagues. And I don't understand it. Right, you're the
Colorado Rockies. We all know what kind of season they're having, right,
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I mean, it's it's misery. What is Chase Dollander learning
in the big leagues right now? Because we're alpha guys, right,
I mean, we're all alpha athletes. We've always been the
best at what we did where we were. You get
to the big leagues, everybody's as good or better than you.
I'm not in the big leagues as a young pitcher
is thinking I'm gonna take this thirt and I'm going
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to try and learn how to do this. You're taking
the ball going I gotta win, and there's no development there.
And I said this. I went back and I looked,
and this is how I know it's sport wide. I
went back and looked at a couple guys in junior college.
Were these guys were all first round picks. I looked
at him in junior college. I looked at him in college.
(25:24):
I looked at him in the big leagues. Were the
exact same pitcher at twenty three to twenty four in
the big leagues that they were in junior college. Physically, mechanically,
people should be fired for that. But the chase for
velocity and the money seemed to create a sense of
haste in promoting minds. It shouldn't exist. Would you rather
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have a guy come up at twenty two and have
his Tommy John, Because there are most of these guys
that are on their way to Tommy John or some
shoulder problem because of their deliveries. But would you rather
have that guy at twenty two who knows nothing about
the big leagues bounce around for three, four, five years
and then become a free agent when he starts to
learn how to pitch in the big leagues, Or would
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you rather have him at twenty three, twenty four as
polished as he could be, and then learn that way?
You know, the process is so broken right now, and
teams are losing and the four is losing billions of
dollars in I our time. The picture is because of
the approach.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
It it's really really testing stuff. And yeah, they want
to also get the big league getings quicker to arbitration,
right and then.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
But you know what the problem is, the only way
a kid could be the same pitcher he was in
junior college. Is if you have a minor league system
of coaches afraid to coach. Right, some of these guys
coming to their first day in rookie ball, you would
take them to the bullpen and go, okay, listen, this
isn't going to work. You have the foundation. But here's
what we need to fix the problem is that coaches
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don't don't want to be the guy that broke the
first round tick. Right, you're talking about five six eight,
what was schemes? Nine million dollars. No one's gonna no
one's gonna want to be the guy that that maybe
broke him or changed him because he throws really hard,
and you can't do that. You have to be hands
on with these young men and you have to make
them understand listen, these guys are getting paid. Think about this.
(27:23):
These guys are getting paid thirty million dollars a year
to throw one hundred and seventy five innings. Are you
kidding me? The one hundred and seventy five innings was
like mid August total, and now it's not. I mean
thirty five starts a year. Seven innings that starts two
hundred and forty five innings. When was the last time
anybody even sniffed that, I.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Probably never again. So okay, so let me let me
ask you this. Let me get to a couple of
other things. Kurk Chilling joining us. The Complete game is
the podcast download wherever you're down the podcast. Of course,
you can watch it on YouTube as well. Uh, let's
get to the Dodgers. Jason Stewart is my producer. The
Dodgers drive him crazy, not because he doesn't think they're talented,
(28:08):
but because it's like they so badly want to be
able to do it without a closer, like a designated closure,
like here's our guy, right. They want the new era
of baseball. It did work last year?
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Are you a believer it doesn't work? Why it's never
worked because sabermetricians can't understand that getting the last three
outs of the game are the hardest three outs of
the game to get. Yeah, they just are. You can
like that, dislike that, you can be a fantasy Oh
is it's different. It's different. And the analogy I've always
(28:48):
used is October baseball is like pitching the ninth inning
with a one run lead. Every inning, every hitter in
the ninth inning of a close game is approaching me
at that differently. They just do right. And in October,
every single hitter, every single at bat, the hitters at
the plate approaching it like a nine thing. At bat,
they're different. Out, I get the hole, bring my guy
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in in the highest leverage situation in the seventh inning
because they're second and third and I need two punch
outs and whatever. But probably the biggest culprit in the
new phase of pitching our relievers. These guys are just
coming and thrown as hard as they want. And if
you if you doubt what I'm saying, just watch an inning.
Watch the catcher's glove on fastballs and the fact that
you almost have to be Jerry Rice to catch some
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of these fastballs, as opposed to being a big league catcher.
Guys set up down and into whether to throw the
ball up and away. Guy sits up down in a way,
throws the ball in middle middle guy swings and missus.
Everybody says, great pitch. It's just there's metrics that aren't
being measured, and they met they're meaningful from a standpoint
of pitching. But getting the last three I remember, if
(29:53):
you remember, way back the Red Sox tried that whole
bullpen by committee approach in the early two thousands and
failed miserably at it. It's just different. The human psyche
is different, and I'm on the mound in the ninth inning.
Hell is the starter. When I was on the mound
in the ninth inning, I knew those three outs were
different than the first twenty four I've gotten as a reliever.
That's your whole life. Well, think about this. If it
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was not that different, then there would be a lot
of Trevor Hoffins and Mariano Rivera's with six on her
career stage, right. Yeah, But there's not, and there won't
be there.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
There's not. Kurt. You're the best man. It's not just
because you have credibility in your opinion, but you also
do the work to the research and getting us ready
for the upcoming MLB draft. This is awesome stuff. Can't wait.
Talk with you next week again. Hi, buddy, It's the
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Speaker 6 (30:42):
Thanks Kurt, take brother.
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You ask yourself? Thanks so much for asking and making
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download podcast. It's the middle of the week. It's Wednesday,
middle of the day. I don't know. It's one on
the west, four on the east. You know your day
doesn't end at five anymore, and it's the middle of
the show. We'll call it the midway. Can be any topic,
Jay su what's the midway?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
I did want to make this is a special midway today.
I saw this note and I'm like, man, this is
this is almost written for the Doug Gottlieb Show. Whoever,
whoever took the time to post this must be a listener.
This is what PMT Stats and Info posted this morning.
July second, twenty twenty five is exactly the middle of
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the year, which means from this day moving forward, will
be closer to twenty fifty than we were two thousand. So, Doug,
not only are we in the middle of the day
in the middle of the show. We're in the very
middle of twenty twenty five and to this tweets, I
(33:18):
guess sentiment, we are in the middle of the half century.
We are right in the middle of our half century.
To me, these things are more than coincidences. Really, this
is why we have the Midway to discuss topics of
the day and have a good time with them. Today
(33:38):
I threw out on the group text, since we are
at the very middle of the year, what storylines are
you looking forward to following for the rest of the
calendar year. I saw exactly zero comments about it, so
I'm assuming that's what we're going with.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Guys, good with me, It's good with me.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I like it, Yeah, yes, no need to change.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
No, I thought it was outstanding. I didn't want to
give away an idea because I think, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
No.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
The one good thing about the twenty five years is
if we were to do that angle, like, what are
we looking for the next twenty five years? All of
the US Open sites have been basically set from now
and so there's only like four open So thanks a
lot USGA for that one. Ridiculous sorry just to golf Takes.
Speaker 8 (34:22):
It's like the Marvel movie schedule coming out like fifteen
years ago, and they're like, these are all the Marvel
movies we're going to make over the next twenty years.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Yeah, like, okay, thanks for the surprise, than thanks for
giving everybody else a chance.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
That's not By the way, has anybody seen F one?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Is it out?
Speaker 6 (34:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
The movie? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (34:37):
It did very well except first weekend. Yeah, I've not
seen it.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
S Brad Pitt combined with the guy that made Top
Gun Maverick. What could go wrong? Right, Brad Pitt who
got it? Still got it?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Here's what could go wrong?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Go ahead? Can you say it? Jay Stu? I I
don't know if I should say it as a college
basketball coach. Brad's Pitt still still got it? You know
what's in the box?
Speaker 6 (35:01):
No?
Speaker 8 (35:02):
Not that, No, No, I just movie drop from Brad. Say,
Brad Pitt's still hot. Yeah, he's like sixty one.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
I think something like that. No way, Yeah, he's in
the sixties.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Yes he is.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Brad Pitt is sixty one years old.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
He's gorgeous too. He's gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, he's good looking man.
Speaker 9 (35:17):
He is sixty one in December and he was a bee.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
Uh, I would love I would love to fall into
Brad's pit. Pause apparently, I don't know if you do.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Let's move on. Okay, things I'm looking forward to later
on this year, not Brad Spitt, Not Brad Spit. I'm sorry,
I'm gonna say it. I know it feels like prisoner
of the moment. I want to see the Aaron Rodgers
thing in Pittsburgh. I'm with you there, just I just
do like it's his last year. They're kind of acting
on Pittsburgh like a motivated Aaron Rodgers usually pretty good,
(35:57):
but he wasn't very good half the year. He succeeds,
he fails as a player. You know, he's going to
say it doesn't matter because it's bigger than that, it's
a spiritual journey or whatever. But like it's really going
to be a kind of how you and your career
sometimes defines a little bit of your career. It doesn't, right,
Peyton Manning, he won a Super Bowl, but I mean
(36:18):
he was bad and he really kind of got pulled
midway through the season. Brady's last year, they weren't particularly good.
He was okay, not really enthused in like you know
who was playing with and playing poor, but I want
to see what Aaron Rodgers does this year. I'm that's
a storyline I want to pay attention to.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
Well, there's going to be that kind of weekly thing too, right,
because like it's going to be interesting to see the
first time Aaron Rodgers does something on McAfee that directly
contradicts what Mike Tomlin said on Sunday Night. Like Tomlin
will do one of his we want volunteers and not hostages,
and then Aaron Rodgers will go on McAfee and be like, no, no, no,
(36:57):
we need that guy. I don't care what he just
did on some day. We need that guy. He's important
to the team. He'll like, he'll do things that will
just directly contradict the head coach. That's a part of
his brand, and it's going to be interesting. Given the
amount of respect that each of these two guys.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Have, it's pretty amazing because they're gonna spend seven months
with each other.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
That's what that's that's what it is. That's not even
a school.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Year in July.
Speaker 7 (37:26):
I don't even think the Dan points out, I don't
even think the NBA playoffs are shorter than seven months.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Okay, So that's that's one. That's one Dan you go.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
So Jason Stewart last year pointed out many times and
he was right about this on how he was intrigued
about the Kansas City Chiefs going for a three peat.
And I don't think that that story got enough run
because of the greatness of the Chiefs. Now they fell
a game short, we get tired of them. So now
(38:01):
that they've lost this Super Bowl, I am curious to
see on how they do rebound because the last time
that they lost the Super Bowl, they did not make
it back the next year. Granted Cincinnati had to have
a crazy AFC Championship game in Kansas City to beat them,
but still they did not return. And I am curious
(38:23):
to see on if that Super Bowl game was a
sign of things to come or just a mirage that
has fixed this offseason with a rededicated Travis Kelcey and whatnot.
So I will carry that Chiefs banner. I continue to
think that that story in Kansas City teetering on which
way is going to go, It's going to be very
interesting this fall.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Chase do I'm going to keep it local.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
I think the Dodgers baseball story this coming October is
one of the most intriguing baseball stories that we've seen.
How many different World Series champions have there been in
the past eight years?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I want to say eight, eight, because I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I believe it's eight.
Speaker 7 (39:04):
And coming off an off season where you're like, are
the Dodgers bad for baseball? And how stupid a notion
that is being a team or the first team to
repeat in quite some time, I think is a is
just like Dan just pointed out, it's kind of like
the chief story like this is this is an intriguing
thing to follow if you like the Dodgers or not.
(39:25):
In fact, if you hate the Dodgers, it's even more interesting.
Can they repeat? They have the most talented team, they
have the biggest payroll, And I'm going to be following
closely as a Dodger fan and a strong critic of
Andrew Friedman. So the storyline I'm looking forward to most
the second half of twenty twenty five the Los Angeles
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Dodgers in October.
Speaker 8 (39:49):
Sam just briefly going back to that Aaron Rodgers topic.
I am curious if midway through the season Aaron Rodgers
will ask Mike Tomlin if you could bring in Alan
Wizzard and Randall Cob for help. She's gonnadust them off.
Let just throw out Randall Cobb Lazard out there.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Just get it.
Speaker 8 (40:06):
Get those guys catching balls. No, actually had a couple
in mind, But I am curious if this is going
to be a by the end of the year, a
sophomore slump for Caitlyn Clark. You can define the slump
a sophomore slump in a lot of ways. Sometimes it's
just poor shooting. Sometimes it's injury. Sometimes it's both. And
right now she has the groin issue and her shooting
has been an issue. But this Fever team has actually
(40:26):
had some really, really impressive wins. They obviously beat the
Links last night in Minneapolis to win the Commissioners Cup.
They had the best record in the w NBA coming
into that game. They took the bloom off the Rows
with the New York Liberty and beat them for the
first time. They won at Seattle, So the team is
able to win without her. I think clearly we need
to have Kaitlyn Clark playing again.
Speaker 7 (40:47):
Hold on, just hold on a secont put a pause
on your uh your script there?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Did you just refer to the Fever as we you
just said we.
Speaker 9 (40:58):
I don't think I did.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah, it was a week.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
We'll replay that, we'll script.
Speaker 9 (41:04):
Do we care? I'm just I don't who cares?
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Oh, Doug has a problem with people saying, but.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I don't like like hardcore fantasy we but like n
W NBA fever team. You're from Iowa. You just started fault.
You're clearly a Caitlyn Clark fanatic.
Speaker 9 (41:20):
I don't remember saying we here.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Not usually one guy.
Speaker 9 (41:24):
I'm a me guy.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
But all right, yeah, okay, I gotta I got a
couple of here, a couple here. First of all, I
do have we talked about this in the pod, and
I have received work. Okay, this is not breaking news.
But I've been led to believe that Caitlin Clark will
not take a penny of the money from the Commissioner's
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Cup that the team received and will break up. I
think she's like, hey, I didn't play. Let team personnel
get it. The people who make the least get it.
That's what I've been told.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
That's nice.
Speaker 9 (41:58):
Wait where are you getting that?
Speaker 1 (42:00):
I just sources, layers close to the situation have led
me to believe that is not a confirmed report.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
That's just looking out. Yeah, that's great, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yes, and probably, honestly, she probably would have done it
if she would have played as well.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
I honestly, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
It's it's a drop in the bucket to what she makes. Yeah,
Mamba shoes sold out like that. She's really really bright woman.
Speaker 8 (42:29):
She played, She played in certain games that helped them
get to the Commissioner's Cup Championship. I opined earlier that
maybe she could give her money away to her teammates,
because they did go out there, her teammates.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
I don't know if she gave her teammates. I think
it's the team personnel.
Speaker 9 (42:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (42:44):
I don't I've not heard that from anybody, but just
myself thinking that maybe she could do people.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Yeah, can we.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Get to the here's the things we're looking forward to.
Speaker 7 (42:54):
We have I mentioned before we get there. Before we
get there, I did want to I have evidentiary. Evidentiary
what's the word proof? Iowa say, I'm just three minutes
ago talking about his fever. You have me up on
the computer, Sam.
Speaker 8 (43:08):
Go ahead, Yeah, so the team is able to win
without her? I think clearly we need to have Kaitlyn
Clark playing I'm talking about his sports dude.
Speaker 9 (43:16):
Come on, I'm talking about sports fans. You need to
have Kaitlyn Clark back. You know what, we Fever fans.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
I'm actually gonna go to Sam, Sam, Sam, I got
your back here. I'll catch you in this stress fall.
Speaker 9 (43:32):
Okay for once. Thank you, guys, thank you.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
No listen, because he meant we, as sports fans, we
need to have Kaylen Clark because.
Speaker 9 (43:39):
Otherwise we don't care unabashed fever.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
But Sophie Cunningham, But.
Speaker 8 (43:46):
Sophie Stunningham, Sophie stunning Okay, I've been vindicated.
Speaker 9 (43:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
I know you're gonna say Ohio State, but I'm gonna
say arch Manning.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Right, Yeah, I'm glad you went there.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah arch Manning, like I can't. Part of me feels
bad for the kid, all right, but part of me
is like, hey, dude, you're the dude. You're gonna put
yourself man in the arena. Now, the quarterback of Texas Texas,
right they spent didn't They spend three million dollars on
his visits supposedly, right, Like this is that's like all
time Johnny be good levels. Yeah, our arch Manning, quarterback of.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
Texas there there.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
I think, I'm so glad you brought that up because
I think that he is far and away the biggest
story in college football. And it's also because I think
there are stories that are lacking in college football. And
I'm gonna bring up a topic that we kind of
talked about last year. Do you remember I was not
high in Alabama? Remember, like they you know, they went
to Madison, they took care of what Wisconsin and you're like, oh,
(44:46):
it's Alabama's Alabama. Alabama's not Alabama when Nick Saban isn't there, sure,
and there was intrigue because you think that maybe that
team's going to keep rolling with Caitlin de Boorr. But
it ended up not being the case. They don't even
make they don't even make the playoffs, So now Alabama
isn't Alabama anymore. Ohio State's got a you know, a
(45:09):
bunch of new faces on offense outside of Jeremiah Smith
that you have to replace.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Oklahoma Stinksaomas spinks.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Yeah, Penn State is maybe the second biggest story I
think because if not now, when for them, like finally,
even though they made it to the semi final last year,
it's kind of a all right, let's see it, James Franklin,
let's win that big game. And but other than that,
you know, I have a tough time in getting a
lot of buzz about the college football season. I think
(45:41):
arch Manning is the story far and away in college football,
and they open up at Ohio State just to start
the season, so it's the game that everybody's gonna be
looking at.
Speaker 9 (45:51):
How do we feel in what late December?
Speaker 8 (45:54):
I guess about because we had a lot of problems
with how teams were seeded in the first twelveeen playoff
and now we're going to try to correct those errors
and not have a like a Boise State be like
have a buye. You know, we need to correct those things.
So I think that the makeup of the playoff will
be interesting. See how we do it this time around,
maybe trying to correct some of those mistakes from last year.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yeah, it's not a great There's not tons of momentum
for college football right now.
Speaker 8 (46:18):
Do you see the big twelves getting rid of preseason
polls because like Arizona State was picked to finish whatever
way deep into the conference and they end of winning it.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Cam'll tell you what though, that's what makes the story great?
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Agreed?
Speaker 4 (46:32):
I love preseason polls.
Speaker 8 (46:34):
It's just talking fodder though, you know, it's just yeah, yeah,
but tough to talk about.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
It at least, but it gets us talking about it. Yes, yeah,
I'm with Dan.
Speaker 9 (46:42):
So what you think that it's good it went away
or you should keep it?
Speaker 1 (46:45):
No, they're dumb because nobody knows, Like most teams have
entirely new teams, so it's really hard. Like people ask
them all the time, like what's your league gonna look like?
Like I don't know of in my league in the
Horizon League in basketball, the twenty five scores two or back.
I have one of them and we were the worst team.
So I mean, you know, it's crazy. Okay, so we
(47:08):
got college football, we got NFL.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
There's also gonna be a good Rider Cup at h
so that'll be a good weekend in late September.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
I mean, at Page.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Anybody anybody else wonder like, I don't think they'll trade him,
but what if Lebron gets traded?
Speaker 4 (47:32):
Thundering at least interesting?
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Uh, but I thought that was pretty good Midway Chase
do anything else?
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Nope, we got Daniel Jeremiah here.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Great, we'll ask him what he's most looking forward to,
that is the Midway.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
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Hope you had a great weekend. Hope you listen to
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he's filling up the radio hours. He's back with us today.
Excited to have dB along. Of course, you got Jason
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We'll talk a little bit. Caitlin Clark also a new
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We got a big football trade. Is Jalen Ramsey's now
Pittsburgh Steelers. We got all the things to get to.
Let me start with Lebron James Rich, Paul is Lebron
(01:13):
James agent Rich Paul was the guy who Lebron met,
I think selling jerseys out of the back of his car, right,
So he's part of, you know, starting from the bottom.
Now we're here, and he had this statement to ESPN.
(01:35):
Lebron wants to compete for a championship. Paul told ESPN.
He knows the Lakers are building for the future. He
understands that, but he values a realistic chance at winning
it all. We're very appreciative of the partnership that we
had for eight years with Genie and Rob Lincoln consider
the Lakers as a critical part of his career. We
understand the difficulty in winning now while preparing for the future.
We do want to evaluate what's best for Lebron at
this stage of his life and career. He wants to
(01:56):
make every season he has left count and the Lakers
understand that supportive of what of want what's best for him.
I will tell you how that lands with me one
word poorly, poorly, And there are lots of different ways
(02:17):
to explain why it lands poorly, but here's the easiest.
You have to match up your actions with your words.
If Lebron wants to win a championship, Well, then why
would you opt into a deal that pays you fifty
three million dollars? Because ear's out really works. If you
(02:38):
want to win, you know, you got to take less
so that you can pay more to go out and
get guys on the free agent market. I mean, and
if you want to guarantee yourself a big fat paycheck,
what you can do is you can backload a contract,
do it as a player only option, and you play
a year with the Lakers and oh yeah, by the way,
(02:59):
if if it doesn't work out, you want to retire,
you know, you had them by their way out of
an opt out or whatever, or you going somewhere next year.
There's a million different things you can do. But you
can say you're appreciative of Genie and Rob Polinka, your
actions are far different because if you're really appreciative, why
(03:23):
would you release the statement? If you really want to
win a championship, why'd you release the statement? How it
lands on me is poorly because it feels like the
Lakers and Lebron has talked about it and he always
couches it with you. I understand. Now we're building around Luca.
This is Lebron James and Rich Baull pouting and trying
(03:43):
to exert some sort of leverage that doesn't actually exist.
This is no different than Lebron when he was leaving Miami,
when he was leaving Cleveland the second time leaking out
there that could be interested in the San Antonio Spurs
who had no interest in Lebron James. Because you can say, hey,
(04:04):
we're really appreciative, but the reality is, are you right?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Let me make this clear, over the past year, just
the past year alone, We'll make it thirteen months a year.
Is that? Okay? Over the past year, the Lakers have
hired a guy he co hosted a podcast with as
the head coach of the Lakers, and look, I get it,
like I'm not that different from the JJ Reddick higher
(04:38):
but it's the head coach of the Lakers and they
hired him. Okay. They also drafted Bronnie James and then
all made statements like Bronnie had earned the right to
be a second round pick when that's not even close
too accurate. Then they played Bronnie the first game of
the season and throughout times in the NBA season, Well,
(05:01):
give him a guaranteed four year contract, despite the fact
he was like, what, the fifty fifth pick in the
NBA draft, So the worst thing they did. And then
if you predate that, they went out and got Anthony Davis.
They overpaid for Anthony Davis. Why he was a Rich
(05:22):
Paul client. And when they struck out the first time round,
they went back in the offseason and went after him
and got him. Overpaid for him. Remember they got Russell
Westbrook on the LA Lakers. Why they were going to
get Demarta Rosen, that was the guy. Well documented, Demarta
Rosen was going to be the third guy. But what
(05:44):
happened was Lebron was like, nah, we like Russell Westbrook better.
They overplayed for Russell Westbrook, and then midway through his
first year with the Lakers, Lebron just did what Lebron
does where he doesn't say anything negative, but he just
ignores passive aggressive, moves on and ultimately they moved off
Russell Westbrook. So we overpaid for Anthony Davis, we trade
(06:12):
for Russell Westbrook, we hire JJ Reddick, we draft and
play Browny James. All of these things would not have
happened if not for Lebron wanting them to happen. There's
a million other things. And you have fifty three and
change million dollars on a contract, and you say you
want to win. And the only thing you say, after
(06:38):
having the opportunity to opt out of that rework your
deal have more money for the Lakers to play with,
is that's great, but we're going to keep our options open.
That sounds like the least no matter. You can say
you're grateful, but it's words, it's actions, not words. And
(07:00):
and what you have done and what the Lakers have
done for you is support you the best way possible.
Remember of Lebron's seasons with the Lakers, how many of
them have ended in injury? How many seasons? How many
games does he played in the regular season? You remember
(07:21):
when he started playing a ton of games in the
regular season. That was the year he was going for
the all times scoring mark. And so if you ask
Lebron about Lebron, I get he's the most selfish, unselfish
guy there is. Yeah, he likes to pass the ball,
(07:42):
but he likes to pass the ball because he wants
you to score and get the assist and he wants
it to be about Lebron. His agent tries to make
this about leverage that they don't have. Look, if you
really want to challenge of Lakers to going out and
making a championship team, Lebron's gonna opt out. He's gonna
(08:04):
see what the Lakers do. He's willing to take less
money if their plan makes sense. That's not what he says.
He says, we're gonna take your money and then we're
gonna think about what we want to do in the future.
And what this does is it sours so many people
on Lebron James when, as I've stated previously, in comparison
(08:27):
to other star athletes, right know, off the court, nonsense, none, zero.
But there is a transactional nature to how he approaches
playing for a team. And I've told you guys, since
he got to LA and throughout this process, you can play.
(08:48):
He's gonna play eight years in LA. Lebron James plays
for the Lakers, is not a Laker because what Laker
fans want, what Laker fans desire is Lebron James wants
to do one thing before he calls it a career,
win another championship with the Lakers. And what he said
(09:12):
is I want to win a championship. I don't think
we can do it with the Lakers, So why are
we paying you fifty three million hours? Bud? Oh? Yeah.
By the way, if you don't think Luca is good enough,
then how did Luca get to the finals without you?
The whole thing is a massive contradiction and a statement
(09:34):
of being ungrateful. And there's lots of things that turn
people off and things that turn people on. The number
one thing that turns me off in my lifetime is
people are not grateful. People are not appreciative. There are
no perfect human beings. Either we see the positive things
that people bring or we harp on the negative things.
(09:57):
And if you're appreciative of the positive, it doesn't mean
that the negatives don't exist. But at least it gives
respect for somebody working through whatever they're working through while
giving you the best that they have. I just for
a guy that has done so many of the right things,
this statement is so about the wrong things to me. Byer,
(10:21):
what do you think of Rich Paul's statement and how
it lands on you as somebody who's not from La Okay,
but you know LA sports fans, the Lakers and the
sports world at large.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, this topic is so many different ways to tackle it,
and I am not opposite yours. If you're at noon
or twelve o'clock, I'm maybe at ten o'clock on it.
When I read it, it felt like Rich Paul was
trying to take the narrative away from the Lakers. And
(10:57):
how I read it was, prior to the team acquiring
Luka Doncic, it had been all about Lebron stuff that
you laid out, even to the fact of hiring JJ Reddick. Well,
now Luca comes along, and I'm sure the Lakers and
Lebron had discussions about how things are going to go.
But if there was no Luca, why wouldn't Lebron just
(11:19):
sign another one on one deal, get max money for
one hundred and five hundred and six million dollars on
a two year deal and go through this whole charade again.
And I don't mean charade that it's a farce, but
that's what he did last offseason, had the one and
one which allowed him to have this player option that
he opted into. But to me, it seems like he
(11:41):
wasn't going to get his fifty million anywhere else and
at least this offseason, and now it allows teams a
year in advance to maybe look at things, and it
allows them a year in advance to plot where they
want to go next. But I just took the statement, Doug,
is them stealing the narrative of the Lakers saying that
they don't need Lebron anymore. And I compared it to
(12:01):
a marriage. There are different types of marriages that span
the spectrum. There are those that are madly in love
and madly in love for fifty years. There are marriages
that are made out of convenience. And this was a
convenience marriage between the two sides, and when one didn't
need the other as much as the other, then it
breaks away. And I felt that that's where the Lakers
(12:22):
were coming from and saying, yeah, that one in one
deal not necessarily great for us. We're not interested. So
Lebron will opt in, get his money, and then he
can figure out where he's going to play next and
have his farewell to her.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Then that's how I took this statement.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah, you bring up the marriage analogy. It's great if
it's the difference in if you've been married once or
married three or four times, how you view your wedding
day right, How you eat your wedding day, sure, you know.
And if you've been married three times, I mean, I
don't know this one compares to the other one's wedding
(12:56):
day whatever, you've been married one time, Like, I mean,
it's literally the it's the culminating moment of two lives
joining together hopefully forever. Hm, you know, and it's it's
it's fascinating. So here's a dude who's been with a
bunch of different teams and it doesn't mean as much
(13:19):
to him. There's not the emotional connection to the Lakers.
But for the Lakers, there's an emotional connection to Lakers. Remember,
the Lakers used to play in Inglewood. Inglewood was known
as the City of champions. Only one team played out
in Inglewood. That was the Lakers. The Lakers are the
team known for championships. So you say, like, do you
(13:41):
know how offended hardcore Laker fans are? Right, let me
get this straight. You were our rival and now you
join us. You're a guy who's bounced to several teams.
You're replacing Kobe Bryant, who, though there was a time
he wanted off the team, never played for another team. Right,
(14:04):
Kobe was about one thing and one thing only, and
that's winning. Killing anybody in his pad, whether he did
the right way or not, he did it with the
intent of winning, and again, always was a Laker. So
you're replacing Kobe with a guy who was a Kobe rival,
who's bounced to a bunch of teams, and throughout his
time in LA he has never really bonded with Laker
(14:27):
fans and been a Laker for life. I never want
to go anywhere else. That's what they want to hear.
I think you nailed it. In terms of Luca. I
think Luca is now the star. Lebron's a little butt
hurt over it. Well, you mean I don't get to
call the shots anymore? Like no, dude, right, wouldn't stun
(14:49):
me if there was some conversation about Bryce and they
were like, yeah, the brownny thing, We're good, Sure, we're good,
We're good.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
It's a it seems, I don't want to say, like
a formality. But there was just so many different ways that,
so many different places you can go with all of this.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Look again, I'm going to compare it to my job
outside of radio in coaching basketball. Like I don't get
I don't get offended when a guy they walk in,
they want to they want to go in the portal.
They want to go in the portal. But like, hey,
we helped you with get your move your girl here.
(15:28):
We helped your family. We helped you get into school,
stay in school. We gave you everything. We we got
your thoughtics, we got you extra massages, we got you
an IV when you were sick. We you know, we
had a tutor come and stay. You know, we did this,
we did that. We blah blah blah blahlah. And you don't.
You can't have an honest conversation about leaving you just
your deuces. You're out like that ain't cool, right, That's
(15:51):
what this is. We overpaid for Anthony Davis. We didn't
want Russell Westbrook. You did, and then you wanted to
get rid of Russell Westbrook ran through all these coaches
you didn't want. Okay, Then we go and you want
to coach, We go hire JJ Reddick. Then we draft
Bronnie James. Okay, now I gotta play Brian James. We
gotta give Bronnie a four year guaranteed contract, which nobody
(16:13):
gets when you're fifty fifth pick in the NBA. Draft
for playing a game, but he got one. Like we
did all these things. We went all in and you
were like, yeah, it's cool, LA's fine, it's fun. Whatever.
And part of it is also calling his bluff. They
don't think and I don't think he's going anywhere else.
But if he doesn't do a goodbye tour then yet, dB,
(16:37):
I think you are right. He'll have his goodbye tour
somewhere else.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
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Speaker 1 (16:48):
It's the Doug gott Leeb Show, Fox Sports Radio. And
coming off a night where Clayton Khrushaw has his three
thousandth strikeout, who better to give us some context than
a guy who I mean elite, elite in terms of
all sports, clutch pitchers, clutch players in the history sports.
(17:08):
Kurt Chilling joints US World Series Champion. He joined us
now on The Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Kurt three thousand strikeouts in a seventeen year story career
in which he's been a part of two World Series championships.
What does the three thousand strikeouts signify to you? Watching
(17:28):
Clayton Kershaw work last night?
Speaker 6 (17:31):
You know, what first balls Hall of Fame human beings
Clayton is. You know, I follow I remember a god.
I can't remember like much of it, but I remember
him when when the talk about him coming up, and
because it was right our career passed, didn't really cross.
But he was as advertised, he did some stuff for
(17:54):
a period of time that you look for in greatness,
and he continued. I mean his postseason struggles aside as
your first gout Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Okay, but it's interesting, it's unique, right, it wasn't You
weren't a bad pitcher in the regular season. You were
very good. He was doumb in the regular season, but
there were struggles in the postseason. You're most known for
your postseason success. Okay, So what's the reality to how
fair is that? Because a Clayton Kershaw defender will say, well,
(18:24):
limited limited sample size, although he's been in a bunch
and they'll say it was later innings and he wore
down because he pitched so much in the regular season,
what's the reality to it? As somebody who's who's kind
of the opposite no more for the postseason of the
regular season.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Well, you know what, I don't You're either good or
not in October. There is no in between, and it's
as much a mindset as anything. You know, from a
workloadspect You could come up with a hundred excuses as
to why someone doesn't succeed in October, and there's probably
truth to the ninety of them in some semones or
some sense. Some guys just aren't bill for October. And
(19:03):
you know, he played to win the ring, so it would.
I mean, that was why I think most of us played.
He's got two. You know, he just hasn't had his
October moments. But I don't think it takes away from
a Hall of Fame career.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I here's something interesting. I don't know if you know this. Uh,
coming into last night, he had the exact same number
of wins as you had. And I say that because
you know again yeah, yeah, to sixteen to sixteen. Yeah,
it feels like an answer. I know. But will we
ever have another three hundred game winner?
Speaker 6 (19:38):
No, not right now, not right now. You know, I've
been doing some work pre draft work, and you know,
I'm thinking about stepping back into the game on the
hitching side of things, because pitching in the big leagues,
pitching across baseball and amateur for face broken is horribly broken,
and it needs to be fixed. There needs to be
(20:01):
I say this term loosely, but there needs to be
a moneyball sort of renaissance with pitching. The hunter velocity
has destroyed the art and and and that's I mean,
that's why you're seeing the massive increase in arm injuries
and all the things to go with that, and and organizations.
(20:23):
I mean, listen, I did I did some work on
this draft, and I'm not going to name names because
these kids are coming up to one of the most
special days in their lives. But if I'm a major
league team, there are two or three, at least two
guys I wouldn't touch with your first round pick, and
they're going to go in the first round. One of
them is probably going to go very high, and they're
(20:47):
it's just not physically possible for these guys to be
healthy five six years from now. I mean, it's just
if you look down the sport, you go back and
watch video and history, guys that throw like these guys
don't laugh. They never have and they never will and
it's not their fault. But pitching is broken in baseball
(21:08):
right now. And you know. That's why your schoolbls stand out.
Yond that's why Jacob de gram was set to be
maybe the best pitcher that ever lived if he hadn't
gotten hurt. He was Greg Maddix with at ninety eight, right,
I mean that is Pedro at ninety eight. I mean
just but again, it's broken. It's horribly broken. And the
(21:33):
clinics that are teaching these guys to throw hard at
the cost of being a pitcher is one of the big.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Big reasons the podcast is called The Complete Game. You
need to watch it on YouTube. That's probably the easiest
way to do it, to subscribe to that channel. Kurt
Shilling is our guest. Of course, that's his podcast. He
joined us now on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. We talk about young pictures and last night
I'm watching Jacob Misrowski, who of course is the is
(22:05):
the rookie with the Brewers who before last night hadn't
been touched right, and then he had just one inning
where infield hit could have been a potential out, could
have got him out of the inning. He doesn't, gives
up a home run and then a back to back Okay,
so you break this stuff down. His velo is a
little down last night is Misowski? Is he a guy
(22:28):
here to stay or is he a guy that I
don't think that lasts.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
I like him better than I like a lot of
young guys. A couple episodes ago I talked about him. Uh,
there's a much more polished delivery than than a lot
of these other guys I'm talking about, especially for his age.
The problem is he's not ready for the big legs.
I don't care about this stuff. He hasn't back. And
(22:56):
you know, I know I sound archaic, and I sound
like the old guy. Get off my long guy. But
back in the day, you went through the minor league
by mastering the level you were at and moving on sure, right,
And each level is a little bit more effort. Each
level is a little bit mentally and physically harder, and
there's a gradual process to getting to the big leagues.
(23:19):
And I used my personal analogy. When I got to
the big leagues, I made my debut, had a decent start,
went seven innings, and then I got my ass handed
to me for three three games, and I drove home
that winter. And the thing I tell everybody it was
a similar moment in my career because I drove from
Baltimore to Phoenix, Arizona, and during the drive, I had
(23:40):
an epiphany and it was, hey, you know what, I'm
not ready, but I can do this. And that came
from having five to six seven hundred innings in the
minor leagues I threw. I had a couple two hundred
inning seasons in the minor league. I threw eight or
nine complete games in a couple of different minor league seasons.
I knew how to pitch in the eighth inning and
(24:01):
the ninth inning and with runners in scoring position. Those
are all the things you learned. I learned how to
pitch inside in the minor league, none of them. So
what I basically I'm saying is I had the toolbox
when I got to the big leagues, I just figure
out how. I had to figure out how to use
the tools. These guys get the big leagues, they don't
have the toolbox, and I use a guy like Chase
(24:21):
Dollander in Colorado. These guys are coming up with fifteen
Triple A inns and you know, one hundred and sixteen
minor league innings spread out over two and a half seasons.
There's this enormous rush to get these guys to the
big leagues. And I don't understand it. Right, you're the
Colorado Rockies. We all know what kind of season they're having, right,
(24:42):
I mean, it's it's misery. What is Chase Dollander learning
in the big leagues right now? Because we're alpha guys, right,
I mean, we're all alpha athletes. We've always been the
best at what we did where we were. You get
to the big leagues, everybody's as good or better than you.
I'm not in the big leagues as a young pitcher
is thinking I'm gonna take this thirt and I'm going
(25:03):
to try and learn how to do this. You're taking
the ball going I gotta win, and there's no development there.
And I said this. I went back and I looked,
and this is how I know it's sport wide. I
went back and looked at a couple guys in junior college.
Were these guys were all first round picks. I looked
at him in junior college. I looked at him in college.
(25:24):
I looked at him in the big leagues. Were the
exact same pitcher at twenty three to twenty four in
the big leagues that they were in junior college. Physically, mechanically,
people should be fired for that. But the chase for
velocity and the money seemed to create a sense of
haste in promoting minds. It shouldn't exist. Would you rather
(25:47):
have a guy come up at twenty two and have
his Tommy John, Because there are most of these guys
that are on their way to Tommy John or some
shoulder problem because of their deliveries. But would you rather
have that guy at twenty two who knows nothing about
the big leagues bounce around for three, four, five years
and then become a free agent when he starts to
learn how to pitch in the big leagues, Or would
(26:08):
you rather have him at twenty three, twenty four as
polished as he could be, and then learn that way?
You know, the process is so broken right now, and
teams are losing and the four is losing billions of
dollars in I our time. The picture is because of
the approach.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
It it's really really testing stuff. And yeah, they want
to also get the big league getings quicker to arbitration,
right and then.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
But you know what the problem is, the only way
a kid could be the same pitcher he was in
junior college. Is if you have a minor league system
of coaches afraid to coach. Right, some of these guys
coming to their first day in rookie ball, you would
take them to the bullpen and go, okay, listen, this
isn't going to work. You have the foundation. But here's
what we need to fix the problem is that coaches
(26:59):
don't don't want to be the guy that broke the
first round tick. Right, you're talking about five six eight,
what was schemes? Nine million dollars. No one's gonna no
one's gonna want to be the guy that that maybe
broke him or changed him because he throws really hard,
and you can't do that. You have to be hands
on with these young men and you have to make
them understand listen, these guys are getting paid. Think about this.
(27:23):
These guys are getting paid thirty million dollars a year
to throw one hundred and seventy five innings. Are you
kidding me? The one hundred and seventy five innings was
like mid August total, and now it's not. I mean
thirty five starts a year. Seven innings that starts two
hundred and forty five innings. When was the last time
anybody even sniffed that, I.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Probably never again. So okay, so let me let me
ask you this. Let me get to a couple of
other things. Kurk Chilling joining us. The Complete game is
the podcast download wherever you're down the podcast. Of course,
you can watch it on YouTube as well. Uh, let's
get to the Dodgers. Jason Stewart is my producer. The
Dodgers drive him crazy, not because he doesn't think they're talented,
(28:08):
but because it's like they so badly want to be
able to do it without a closer, like a designated closure,
like here's our guy, right. They want the new era
of baseball. It did work last year?
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Are you a believer it doesn't work? Why it's never
worked because sabermetricians can't understand that getting the last three
outs of the game are the hardest three outs of
the game to get. Yeah, they just are. You can
like that, dislike that, you can be a fantasy Oh
is it's different. It's different. And the analogy I've always
(28:48):
used is October baseball is like pitching the ninth inning
with a one run lead. Every inning, every hitter in
the ninth inning of a close game is approaching me
at that differently. They just do right. And in October,
every single hitter, every single at bat, the hitters at
the plate approaching it like a nine thing. At bat,
they're different. Out, I get the hole, bring my guy
(29:10):
in in the highest leverage situation in the seventh inning
because they're second and third and I need two punch
outs and whatever. But probably the biggest culprit in the
new phase of pitching our relievers. These guys are just
coming and thrown as hard as they want. And if
you if you doubt what I'm saying, just watch an inning.
Watch the catcher's glove on fastballs and the fact that
you almost have to be Jerry Rice to catch some
(29:31):
of these fastballs, as opposed to being a big league catcher.
Guys set up down and into whether to throw the
ball up and away. Guy sits up down in a way,
throws the ball in middle middle guy swings and missus.
Everybody says, great pitch. It's just there's metrics that aren't
being measured, and they met they're meaningful from a standpoint
of pitching. But getting the last three I remember, if
(29:53):
you remember, way back the Red Sox tried that whole
bullpen by committee approach in the early two thousands and
failed miserably at it. It's just different. The human psyche
is different, and I'm on the mound in the ninth inning.
Hell is the starter. When I was on the mound
in the ninth inning, I knew those three outs were
different than the first twenty four I've gotten as a reliever.
That's your whole life. Well, think about this. If it
(30:17):
was not that different, then there would be a lot
of Trevor Hoffins and Mariano Rivera's with six on her
career stage, right. Yeah, But there's not, and there won't
be there.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
There's not. Kurt. You're the best man. It's not just
because you have credibility in your opinion, but you also
do the work to the research and getting us ready
for the upcoming MLB draft. This is awesome stuff. Can't wait.
Talk with you next week again. Hi, buddy, It's the
complete game, Kurt Schilling. Download it and check it out
on YouTube.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Thanks Kurt, take brother.
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getting the middle it's time for So what's the midway?
You ask yourself? Thanks so much for asking and making
this part of your day's three hours of radio. Of course,
the third hour you get on podcast, download a verb
(32:18):
download podcast. It's the middle of the week. It's Wednesday,
middle of the day. I don't know. It's one on
the west, four on the east. You know your day
doesn't end at five anymore, and it's the middle of
the show. We'll call it the midway. Can be any topic,
Jay su what's the midway?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
I did want to make this is a special midway today.
I saw this note and I'm like, man, this is
this is almost written for the Doug Gottlieb Show. Whoever,
whoever took the time to post this must be a listener.
This is what PMT Stats and Info posted this morning.
July second, twenty twenty five is exactly the middle of
(32:58):
the year, which means from this day moving forward, will
be closer to twenty fifty than we were two thousand. So, Doug,
not only are we in the middle of the day
in the middle of the show. We're in the very
middle of twenty twenty five and to this tweets, I
(33:18):
guess sentiment, we are in the middle of the half century.
We are right in the middle of our half century.
To me, these things are more than coincidences. Really, this
is why we have the Midway to discuss topics of
the day and have a good time with them. Today
(33:38):
I threw out on the group text, since we are
at the very middle of the year, what storylines are
you looking forward to following for the rest of the
calendar year. I saw exactly zero comments about it, so
I'm assuming that's what we're going with.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Guys, good with me, It's good with me.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I like it, Yeah, yes, no need to change.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
No, I thought it was outstanding. I didn't want to
give away an idea because I think, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
No.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
The one good thing about the twenty five years is
if we were to do that angle, like, what are
we looking for the next twenty five years? All of
the US Open sites have been basically set from now
and so there's only like four open So thanks a
lot USGA for that one. Ridiculous sorry just to golf Takes.
Speaker 8 (34:22):
It's like the Marvel movie schedule coming out like fifteen
years ago, and they're like, these are all the Marvel
movies we're going to make over the next twenty years.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Yeah, like, okay, thanks for the surprise, than thanks for
giving everybody else a chance.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
That's not By the way, has anybody seen F one?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Is it out?
Speaker 6 (34:36):
No?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
The movie? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (34:37):
It did very well except first weekend. Yeah, I've not
seen it.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
S Brad Pitt combined with the guy that made Top
Gun Maverick. What could go wrong? Right, Brad Pitt who
got it? Still got it?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Here's what could go wrong?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Go ahead? Can you say it? Jay Stu? I I
don't know if I should say it as a college
basketball coach. Brad's Pitt still still got it? You know
what's in the box?
Speaker 6 (35:01):
No?
Speaker 8 (35:02):
Not that, No, No, I just movie drop from Brad. Say,
Brad Pitt's still hot. Yeah, he's like sixty one.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
I think something like that. No way, Yeah, he's in
the sixties.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Yes he is.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Brad Pitt is sixty one years old.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
He's gorgeous too. He's gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, he's good looking man.
Speaker 9 (35:17):
He is sixty one in December and he was a bee.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
Uh, I would love I would love to fall into
Brad's pit. Pause apparently, I don't know if you do.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Let's move on. Okay, things I'm looking forward to later
on this year, not Brad Spitt, Not Brad Spit. I'm sorry,
I'm gonna say it. I know it feels like prisoner
of the moment. I want to see the Aaron Rodgers
thing in Pittsburgh. I'm with you there, just I just
do like it's his last year. They're kind of acting
on Pittsburgh like a motivated Aaron Rodgers usually pretty good,
(35:57):
but he wasn't very good half the year. He succeeds,
he fails as a player. You know, he's going to
say it doesn't matter because it's bigger than that, it's
a spiritual journey or whatever. But like it's really going
to be a kind of how you and your career
sometimes defines a little bit of your career. It doesn't, right,
Peyton Manning, he won a Super Bowl, but I mean
(36:18):
he was bad and he really kind of got pulled
midway through the season. Brady's last year, they weren't particularly good.
He was okay, not really enthused in like you know
who was playing with and playing poor, but I want
to see what Aaron Rodgers does this year. I'm that's
a storyline I want to pay attention to.
Speaker 7 (36:36):
Well, there's going to be that kind of weekly thing too, right,
because like it's going to be interesting to see the
first time Aaron Rodgers does something on McAfee that directly
contradicts what Mike Tomlin said on Sunday Night. Like Tomlin
will do one of his we want volunteers and not hostages,
and then Aaron Rodgers will go on McAfee and be like, no, no, no,
(36:57):
we need that guy. I don't care what he just
did on some day. We need that guy. He's important
to the team. He'll like, he'll do things that will
just directly contradict the head coach. That's a part of
his brand, and it's going to be interesting. Given the
amount of respect that each of these two guys.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Have, it's pretty amazing because they're gonna spend seven months
with each other.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
That's what that's that's what it is. That's not even
a school.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Year in July.
Speaker 7 (37:26):
I don't even think the Dan points out, I don't
even think the NBA playoffs are shorter than seven months.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Okay, So that's that's one. That's one Dan you go.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
So Jason Stewart last year pointed out many times and
he was right about this on how he was intrigued
about the Kansas City Chiefs going for a three peat.
And I don't think that that story got enough run
because of the greatness of the Chiefs. Now they fell
a game short, we get tired of them. So now
(38:01):
that they've lost this Super Bowl, I am curious to
see on how they do rebound because the last time
that they lost the Super Bowl, they did not make
it back the next year. Granted Cincinnati had to have
a crazy AFC Championship game in Kansas City to beat them,
but still they did not return. And I am curious
(38:23):
to see on if that Super Bowl game was a
sign of things to come or just a mirage that
has fixed this offseason with a rededicated Travis Kelcey and whatnot.
So I will carry that Chiefs banner. I continue to
think that that story in Kansas City teetering on which
way is going to go, It's going to be very
interesting this fall.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Chase do I'm going to keep it local.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
I think the Dodgers baseball story this coming October is
one of the most intriguing baseball stories that we've seen.
How many different World Series champions have there been in
the past eight years?
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I want to say eight, eight, because I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I believe it's eight.
Speaker 7 (39:04):
And coming off an off season where you're like, are
the Dodgers bad for baseball? And how stupid a notion
that is being a team or the first team to
repeat in quite some time, I think is a is
just like Dan just pointed out, it's kind of like
the chief story like this is this is an intriguing
thing to follow if you like the Dodgers or not.
(39:25):
In fact, if you hate the Dodgers, it's even more interesting.
Can they repeat? They have the most talented team, they
have the biggest payroll, And I'm going to be following
closely as a Dodger fan and a strong critic of
Andrew Friedman. So the storyline I'm looking forward to most
the second half of twenty twenty five the Los Angeles
(39:46):
Dodgers in October.
Speaker 8 (39:49):
Sam just briefly going back to that Aaron Rodgers topic.
I am curious if midway through the season Aaron Rodgers
will ask Mike Tomlin if you could bring in Alan
Wizzard and Randall Cob for help. She's gonnadust them off.
Let just throw out Randall Cobb Lazard out there.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Just get it.
Speaker 8 (40:06):
Get those guys catching balls. No, actually had a couple
in mind, But I am curious if this is going
to be a by the end of the year, a
sophomore slump for Caitlyn Clark. You can define the slump
a sophomore slump in a lot of ways. Sometimes it's
just poor shooting. Sometimes it's injury. Sometimes it's both. And
right now she has the groin issue and her shooting
has been an issue. But this Fever team has actually
(40:26):
had some really, really impressive wins. They obviously beat the
Links last night in Minneapolis to win the Commissioners Cup.
They had the best record in the w NBA coming
into that game. They took the bloom off the Rows
with the New York Liberty and beat them for the
first time. They won at Seattle, So the team is
able to win without her. I think clearly we need
to have Kaitlyn Clark playing again.
Speaker 7 (40:47):
Hold on, just hold on a secont put a pause
on your uh your script there?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Did you just refer to the Fever as we you
just said we.
Speaker 9 (40:58):
I don't think I did.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah, it was a week.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
We'll replay that, we'll script.
Speaker 9 (41:04):
Do we care? I'm just I don't who cares?
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Oh, Doug has a problem with people saying, but.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I don't like like hardcore fantasy we but like n
W NBA fever team. You're from Iowa. You just started fault.
You're clearly a Caitlyn Clark fanatic.
Speaker 9 (41:20):
I don't remember saying we here.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Not usually one guy.
Speaker 9 (41:24):
I'm a me guy.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
But all right, yeah, okay, I gotta I got a
couple of here, a couple here. First of all, I
do have we talked about this in the pod, and
I have received work. Okay, this is not breaking news.
But I've been led to believe that Caitlin Clark will
not take a penny of the money from the Commissioner's
(41:45):
Cup that the team received and will break up. I
think she's like, hey, I didn't play. Let team personnel
get it. The people who make the least get it.
That's what I've been told.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
That's nice.
Speaker 9 (41:58):
Wait where are you getting that?
Speaker 1 (42:00):
I just sources, layers close to the situation have led
me to believe that is not a confirmed report.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
That's just looking out. Yeah, that's great, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yes, and probably, honestly, she probably would have done it
if she would have played as well.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
I honestly, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
It's it's a drop in the bucket to what she makes. Yeah,
Mamba shoes sold out like that. She's really really bright woman.
Speaker 8 (42:29):
She played, She played in certain games that helped them
get to the Commissioner's Cup Championship. I opined earlier that
maybe she could give her money away to her teammates,
because they did go out there, her teammates.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
I don't know if she gave her teammates. I think
it's the team personnel.
Speaker 9 (42:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (42:44):
I don't I've not heard that from anybody, but just
myself thinking that maybe she could do people.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Yeah, can we.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Get to the here's the things we're looking forward to.
Speaker 7 (42:54):
We have I mentioned before we get there. Before we
get there, I did want to I have evidentiary. Evidentiary
what's the word proof? Iowa say, I'm just three minutes
ago talking about his fever. You have me up on
the computer, Sam.
Speaker 8 (43:08):
Go ahead, Yeah, so the team is able to win
without her? I think clearly we need to have Kaitlyn
Clark playing I'm talking about his sports dude.
Speaker 9 (43:16):
Come on, I'm talking about sports fans. You need to
have Kaitlyn Clark back. You know what, we Fever fans.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
I'm actually gonna go to Sam, Sam, Sam, I got
your back here. I'll catch you in this stress fall.
Speaker 9 (43:32):
Okay for once. Thank you, guys, thank you.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
No listen, because he meant we, as sports fans, we
need to have Kaylen Clark because.
Speaker 9 (43:39):
Otherwise we don't care unabashed fever.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
But Sophie Cunningham, But.
Speaker 8 (43:46):
Sophie Stunningham, Sophie stunning Okay, I've been vindicated.
Speaker 9 (43:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
I know you're gonna say Ohio State, but I'm gonna
say arch Manning.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Right, Yeah, I'm glad you went there.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah arch Manning, like I can't. Part of me feels
bad for the kid, all right, but part of me
is like, hey, dude, you're the dude. You're gonna put
yourself man in the arena. Now, the quarterback of Texas Texas,
right they spent didn't They spend three million dollars on
his visits supposedly, right, Like this is that's like all
time Johnny be good levels. Yeah, our arch Manning, quarterback of.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
Texas there there.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
I think, I'm so glad you brought that up because
I think that he is far and away the biggest
story in college football. And it's also because I think
there are stories that are lacking in college football. And
I'm gonna bring up a topic that we kind of
talked about last year. Do you remember I was not
high in Alabama? Remember, like they you know, they went
to Madison, they took care of what Wisconsin and you're like, oh,
(44:46):
it's Alabama's Alabama. Alabama's not Alabama when Nick Saban isn't there, sure,
and there was intrigue because you think that maybe that
team's going to keep rolling with Caitlin de Boorr. But
it ended up not being the case. They don't even
make they don't even make the playoffs, So now Alabama
isn't Alabama anymore. Ohio State's got a you know, a
(45:09):
bunch of new faces on offense outside of Jeremiah Smith
that you have to replace.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Oklahoma Stinksaomas spinks.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Yeah, Penn State is maybe the second biggest story I
think because if not now, when for them, like finally,
even though they made it to the semi final last year,
it's kind of a all right, let's see it, James Franklin,
let's win that big game. And but other than that,
you know, I have a tough time in getting a
lot of buzz about the college football season. I think
(45:41):
arch Manning is the story far and away in college football,
and they open up at Ohio State just to start
the season, so it's the game that everybody's gonna be
looking at.
Speaker 9 (45:51):
How do we feel in what late December?
Speaker 8 (45:54):
I guess about because we had a lot of problems
with how teams were seeded in the first twelveeen playoff
and now we're going to try to correct those errors
and not have a like a Boise State be like
have a buye. You know, we need to correct those things.
So I think that the makeup of the playoff will
be interesting. See how we do it this time around,
maybe trying to correct some of those mistakes from last year.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yeah, it's not a great There's not tons of momentum
for college football right now.
Speaker 8 (46:18):
Do you see the big twelves getting rid of preseason
polls because like Arizona State was picked to finish whatever
way deep into the conference and they end of winning it.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Cam'll tell you what though, that's what makes the story great?
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Agreed?
Speaker 4 (46:32):
I love preseason polls.
Speaker 8 (46:34):
It's just talking fodder though, you know, it's just yeah, yeah,
but tough to talk about.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
It at least, but it gets us talking about it. Yes, yeah,
I'm with Dan.
Speaker 9 (46:42):
So what you think that it's good it went away
or you should keep it?
Speaker 1 (46:45):
No, they're dumb because nobody knows, Like most teams have
entirely new teams, so it's really hard. Like people ask
them all the time, like what's your league gonna look like?
Like I don't know of in my league in the
Horizon League in basketball, the twenty five scores two or back.
I have one of them and we were the worst team.
So I mean, you know, it's crazy. Okay, so we
(47:08):
got college football, we got NFL.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
There's also gonna be a good Rider Cup at h
so that'll be a good weekend in late September.
Speaker 4 (47:22):
I mean, at Page.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Anybody anybody else wonder like, I don't think they'll trade him,
but what if Lebron gets traded?
Speaker 4 (47:32):
Thundering at least interesting?
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Uh, but I thought that was pretty good Midway Chase
do anything else?
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Nope, we got Daniel Jeremiah here.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Great, we'll ask him what he's most looking forward to,
that is the Midway.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
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