August 2, 2025 • 51 mins
On this edition of The Best Of The Week Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug talks about the now-notorious picture of Lebron James, Maverick Carter and the agent of Nikola Jokic on a yacht in Europe, and how Lebron's new business venture shows us who he cares about.
Doug gives his take on new Chargers' Trey Lance after his performance in the Hall Of Fame game. Doug welcomes former Bucs General Manager Mark Dominik onto the show to discuss the Chargers, Parsons and all of the other major headlines around the NFL.
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It's polarizing, like and dislike is Lebron James. So there
was this picture of Lebron Maverick Carter, his agent, and
Nikolae Jokicic's agent on a boat and there's lots of like,
what are they talking about? Is Lebron going to Denver?
Is Yokich coming to la, what's going on? Then?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
It was yesterday or earlier today. That was yesterday. It
came out that the conversation was in regards to Maverick
Carter starting a league, some international league where you have
men's teams and women's teams and it'll be like Live Golf,
only for the NBA. Like wow, that's genius. Right. Everybody
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takes an idea and I like, I don't. I don't
know if Kudoba came first or if Chipotle came first,
but somebody sold somebody else's fast casual idea, right, and
then you look at all the fast cash places. Then
you guys have had kava, like kava came in, Like
I will do the Greek form of it. There is
an Indian food form of it. But as I told you,
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no disrespect to my Indian brothers and sisters, but I
just I don't do Indian food. It's like the only
thing I don't do. I don't. I just don't. It's
just not my jam. But the bigger point is, like
you know, I obviously Live has made a lot of
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people a lot of money. It has broken through. They
have partnered with the PGA. No one knows you know,
what's going to happen to in the future. But a
lot of guys have gotten rich off it, and it's
it's interesting, and they try and do the kind of
rock and roll NBA introductions and try and spice it
up whatever. And golf, which can be seen as lame,
is trying to be made cool by live golf whatever.
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Whether it's working or not working, it's still surviving. You
guys are still getting paid and so it's lasted this long,
so it has worked. But but I have a hypothesis
that I'd like to share with you, and you tell
me if it makes sense. Okay. Chris Prefett, by the way,
is filming it for Dan Byer's here. Hey, welcome and Chris,
of course you got Iowa Sam and m Oman j Stew. Okay.
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So I think most people who watch and cover the
NBA are familiar and some people or not that Lebron
James has made it very very clear he nearly wants
to own an NBA team. He wants to own a
Vegas expansion team. Vegas expansion team. And many of you
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are driving along, you're sitting your cubicle, or you listen
to the DG Show. Maybe you're listen to us on
the app and you're like, yeah, I remember something about that. Okay.
So I think, first of all, this this meeting very
easily could have happened in secret and no one knows
about it. Why would somebody take a picture and then
put it out on social media? Because they want you
to know it's happening, right, that's inarguable. I don't have
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to talk to somebody in Lebron's camp or Yokich's camp
to know that the reason it was out on social
media is they want you to know what's happening. Why
would they want you to know what's happening. Well, there's
only two possible reasons. One, Lebron was told he's not
getting a team, which is altogether possible, maybe even likely,
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because as deep as Lebron's pockets are, they're not that deep.
They're not that deep. The Lebron being worth a billion
dollars it sounds good, it's very likely to not be
real because I'm sure a lot of it is tied
up in Nike stock and in other stocks. Not that
that doesn't count in your terms of your evaluation, but
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I think a lot of it is based upon his
personal brand, his personal value, not how much actual cash
he has or how much how many actual assets he
has and whether that those assets equal out to a
billion dollars ember NBA teams. We just watched the Lakers
go for ten billion dollars billion, So I know NBA players,
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and Lebron seems to be the richest of them, but
that pales in comparison to the guys that are in
the in the financial financial markets. So there's one of
only two possibles that I've come up with. Either one,
he was told he's not getting a team and this
is his way of going. Or two, he wants to
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leverage his way to getting a team, and the only
way to get leverage is if you don't get me
this team, I'm going to go out and form this
other league that's going to be in competition with you
with the hopes of ultimately getting a team that way.
That's the only two possible solutions I can think of,
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or reasons I can think of why Lebron would nullly
have this meeting. Having the meeting, you could take a
meeting with anybody, but why do you want to take
a picture of it? Why do you want people to
know what it was about. Why do you want to know?
Why do you want to include Nikolay Jokic's agent in it.
It's pretty obvious right that this is I'm sure they're
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going to sell it as this is our next step.
This is what we do after we retire, is we
own NBA teams. We force expansion into Europe by putting
together teams in Europe, and then ultimately they joined the NBA.
Or maybe it's because we make them pay us, we
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make them give us a seat at the table, or
maybe it's an fu The issue with any league outside
the end, in comparison to golf is golfers, outside of
their sponsorship money, if they don't play well on Thursday
and Friday, they don't get paid. They don't get to
hang around for Saturday and Sunday. Whereas NBA players they're
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plenty well compensated. And oh yeah, by the way, that
money is based upon TV deals, and a new league
wouldn't have enough teams, nor would have the star power
to have those big TV deals. And if the sale was, hey,
we're gonna launch with Lebron James, the problem is that
by the time Lebron James' contract expires, say they start
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a new league and he is the centerpiece of it.
It'll be forty one years old, and it'll be playing
against rummies, and it will diminish all the things he
did in the NBA. It just will. That's the reality
to it. Okay, it'll diminish what he's done in the NBA.
And the last part and maybe the most important part
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to it that this is my takeaway, and it may
not sit well with you, but I know it to
be reality, which is Lebron has never cared about Laker
fans or being a Laker. He clearly doesn't care about
being a Miami Heat and very likely doesn't care about
being a Cleveland Cavalier and what all that represents because
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he left there twice, and conducting such a meeting and
allowing your agent with a firm that you started to
tweet out that picture showing that you're trying to do
harm to the league that has helped make you into
a billionaire, only shows that Lebron James cares only about
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the relationships of people he knew in high school. And
that's it. That's it. He cared about JJ Reddick and
their relationship. He never would allow his agent to go
public and say they're basically they're not a championship team.
If he cared about the Lakers, he wouldn't do so
many of the things he's done while being a member
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of the Lakers. Who discussed this, is he cared about
being a member of the Miami Heat, he would have
just left. Why they played in four NBA finals, it
won two of them. He shown no value, nor has
he ever claimed that as partner. You know, this is
who Lebron is. It definitely tracks he's somebody who doesn't
actually care about anybody outside of his inner circle. And
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again that's okay with the exception of the fact that
he desperately want to be loved by everybody and cared
for by everybody. But those are really transactional relationships. So
the big takeaways from Lebron meeting with Jokic's agent is
I think it's a leverage play or an fu play
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because he was either told he's not going to get
a team, or he wants to try and force himself
to getting a team, and the only way he can
do it is to force his way by helping create
this new league. The miscalculation is that league has zero
value unless it has stars, and the best star would
be Lebron James, who, don't get me wrong, people would
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come out and watch in you know, if he's start
trying to start a league, people would watch, but they're
not going to pay attention to a league, and that
at some point when your best and most known player retires,
then would he have nothing. It feels like it's simply
a leverage play in order to get the NBA to
give him that team in Vegas, which they may or
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may not have during the next cycle.
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It's a Doug gottlab show Fox Sports Radio. I think
we discussed it on the show, but it's funny a
lot of other people came around to it, which is,
how many people do you think knew that Trey Lance
was on the Chargers before last night? Jay Steal? But
like percentage of people you.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Think, let's say seventeen and a half.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
There you go, good, guess that's all he's your guests.
I know when you were trying to guess what people
think and know, and we have no real Neil clue.
I get it. It's my favorite part of the show,
it's your favorite part of the show.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I know.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I'm gonna say eight percent, Doug, eight percent of the
general public knew that Trey Lance had gone to the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Well, I think people forgot that he's been with the Cowboys, right,
just again, like, go back and look at last season.
Go back and look at last season, and Cooper Rush
took over, Trey Lance was the third string quarterback and
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he got to play in one He got to play
major snaps in one game, the last game of the season. Anyway,
here's Jim Harball's head coach with the Chargers, talking about
his performance last night, which was really good Trey Lance.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Uh, you know, big night for Trey. Just played calm,
played cool, collected, ran the ran the operation. Thought he
threw the ball really well. I thought he really he
had the same kind of composure and poise, you know,
just in control. I mean, it's a there's a presence
that that I've been seeing all camp.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
He's had a heck of a camp.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
And then he went out in the game and and
did that. Just the feeling of he needs game reps
and just wanted to give him that. That was the game,
the game plan, you know, get out there and plays.
He's been playing good and you know, college not as
not as much as most guys have coming out of
college in terms of starts and games. And then then
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he gets gets into pro ball and you know, wins
the starting job and then gets hurt. So he hasn't
had a lot of a lot of game experience, and
that's what we're trying to give him. And he acquitted himself.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Well, I need a guess here, Jason. He's been in
the league since twenty twenty one. Okay, it's too And
remember he was the third pick in the draft. How
many NFL games do you think he's appeared in?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Don't look, I know that he did. He appeared in
one game. I remember that one he got hurt against
the Bears.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Right backways to San Francisco, I think.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
So, yeah, there was a snow game just he was
a starter.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
He was a starter for a for a short period
time in San Francisco. Okay, so you want you want
to venture a guess how many games? Remember we're talking
five years in the NFL. How many of you thinks
have played I'll guess five twelve. Oh, I don't know
if it starts twelve appearances in the Nation Football League,
and it's probably like in the seven starts, and if
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you remember his senior year in college or is his
last year in college at North Dakota State, I believe
they played like one game. That's it. So twelve appearances
high starts. So what Jim Harbaugh is saying isn't wrong. Remember,
and Taylor Heineke is the other guy he's competing with
to be a backup in Taylor Heinekey has led the
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were they the commanders then? I think the commanders to
the playoff? Right? He's also been the starting quarterback with
the Carolina Panthers, so like, we know what we can do,
what he can do. But it's really weird that people
are like, dude, Kyle Shanahan, what's he doing? Right Jim
Harbaugh's quarterback, which were like, he's played five years in
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the NFL, he started five games. There's very few teams,
if any, that will start a quarterback week one of
the preseason that has started five games in the NFL
that's been in the league in his sixth year. Doesn't
happen very rarely. So he's supposed to perform well he's
supposed to be calm. They're not throwing exotic blitzes at him.
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And he has worked really hard to improve his throwing
mechanics because by all estimation and throw a great ball.
But like I just I can't get geeked out, like,
oh my gosh, Chargers got a great backup if Trey
Lance becomes the answer. Chargers got mad to problems. Cowboys
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former gentlem manager of the tamp Bay Buccaneers. He worked
his whole life in professional football, So I love this one.
I don't know if you saw the addition to the
Micah Parsons saying I want to be traded. So Michael
Parsons came out, it was about an hour ago, guys
on social media. I don't want to be here anymore.
I won't be traded. And then Edwarder, who always has
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more and has covered the Cowboys for years, like Micah
Parsons is staying at Cowboys camp because he doesn't want
to incur a fifty thousand dollars fine, Like, yeah, I
cannot stand being here. I'm out, but I'm not gonna
leave because I don't want to lose fifty grand a day,
so yeah, help me, help me with this mark likelihood
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that Micah Parsons remains a cowboy.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
I still think it's pretty strong. You know, a lot
of times we've heard this one before, like I've always
wanted to be here, but it's just not going to
work out. And then Miles Garrett told us this story, right,
what was six months ago?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, he had the goodbye letter. He had the goodbye
letter even that that was posted.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
It's right, So we've seen this song and danced before.
Not that I'm disappointed in Michael Parsons or having but
you know, obviously, if you read the article of what
Michael Parsons red wrote and you kind of have to
trust that maybe he's telling the truth. What could have
felt like it it's just that there hasn't been a
lot of good faith negotiations that were with his agent,
and you can have conversations with the player, but you know,
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every club kind of knows that that's a little taboo,
and it doesn't even matter what the player really says
because at the end of the day, you know, the
agent's getting paid for a reason to be able to
help negotiate it. So look, I look at this whole
thing and say, it makes sense. I get it. I
don't think the Cowboys will trade him, and I don't
think that. I think this is going to be a
two to week, two week, three week thing, and I
have a feel that Michael Parsons will suddenly have money
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solve the problems.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah. Here's my guess on the agent thing, just to guess, right,
we kind of talked about the agents for the ones
that push for the longer guaranteed deals, but the agents
are the ones that have the non guaranteed things tacked
in because it helps them quote unquote win right in publicity. Yeah,
it feels like the agent was just trying to bleed
the Cowboys and they probably pulled them aside, like look, dude,
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like that deal is never getting done. Ever, here's a
real deal. You think about it and how it Then
he calls his agents like, yeah, they told me your
way off, here's the number, and the agent just hits
the roof.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Yeah, you know what, I think there's a lot of
truth to that. I also think that it's the same
thing that's happened with Trey Hendrickson. Is the market moved
so fast this year on defensive line in these elite
pass rushers, and so the agent, if the story is true,
the agent was right, you know, just let's just wait,
let's let some deals come through here, and then then
we'll come in and swoop in at the end and
get our number. The only thing I really think is
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happening here is again, if it has been any negotiations
to say, but I think, you know, I thought that
maybe Michael was pushing for a huge number, a number
that's going to you know, blow everybody else out of
the water, and I thought that might be stilling the negotiations.
The market always moves. It used to be trying to
get a discount from a player if you did the
deal early. Now it's like you're getting the discount because
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you know the market's going to continue to go up.
At least you're getting into the discounts. It's hard, Doug,
when you kind of listen to these things, because you know,
three years from now, everyone of these guys are signing out,
we're gonna be like, well, wait a second, look what
he's making. And so you've got to figure out an organization,
how do you want to handle it, and how does
the player, respect the deal. When you're starting to take
these kind of numbers and putting them in reality of
forty million dollars a year, I mean, that's that's just
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a hard number to fathom. But that's where we're at.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Stug Outlive Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, what
about the Cowboys as a team, right there is the
there is the in the back of your mind like, well,
if're I can be even good, maybe we move him.
But again, the Cowboys are always trying to make themselves
at least above average, if not better. Where are you
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on this Cowboys roster?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
I still think they're very competitive. I think, you know,
the Commanders obviously were spectacular last year, and so obviously
Eagles were champions, and so when you look at this division,
you know, the Giants seem like a long ways away,
and then those other three teams, so like the Gamer
a game or two apart. Totally, I still think the
Cowboys rosters certainly counted enough. Depend on the help of
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how things go. You know, this has been interesting for
me though. Michaeh. Parsons is a player that you know,
you thought might get have done earlier than it's gotten
to this point. It kills me also that maybe there's
something that Cowboys feel about Micah, whatever that is or
whatever they may feel, it's just if this one's taking
a little bit longer. Usually the Cowboys like to get
you to camp and then negotiat and do the deal.
That's how their mo is usually known through the agent world.
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But this one's just not worked out that way. So
there's something else holding the Cowboys back from really pulling
the trigger, and that may be something we never get
to hear about until if he does leave. But again,
I think Micah Parsons in the end the stage.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Of Cowboys Stuck Out Leave show here on Fox Sports Radio,
Trey Lance looks good last night, But I try to
tell people now, many people don't know who's on the Chargers,
Like he was on the Cowboys last year and their
starting quarterback went down and no one was like, hey,
we got to play Trey Lance. How do we process
what we saw last night and the reality of who
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Try Lance actually is now.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
I mean, some of the throws were really great designs.
To me. More than was great throws, right, it was
you know, rolling out and play actions and just different
things that allowed him to just kind of flip and
toss the ball. Yes, he had some good throws, you know,
and I love collins Worth. I certainly loved watching Brent
Musburger just to be able to kind of reminisce in
my mind about just Brent Musberger in the three years.
(23:43):
But it was like it was almost over and done
about Trey Lance to me last night, because this is
a guy that' to your point, third pick, great, he's
having a nice Hall of Fame game. Let's get back
to where this gume really is going to be in
a couple of weeks. To me, when I watched the
Hall of Fame game, yes, I'm looking for young guys
to have their shot, you know, the first year guys,
undrafted guys, you're really looking at that. The other thing
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is the gym you're looking for, which is why the
Chargers dominated. Is they played a much cleaner game, right Doug.
I mean, no interceptions, They had the fumble, but they
didn't lose it. They only had three penalties. I mean
the Chargers fundamentally just played a much cleaner game. And
that to me is more important than the Trey Lance
having a nice out in for a preseason game.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I don't know if you heard this, but John Harbaugh
was absolutely effuse in his praise of Lamar Jackson, right,
And Lamar Jackson not just as a quarterback, but Lamar
Jackson as a as a passer. And I get if
you look at the raw numbers from last year, you
(24:43):
you cold agree with. But then you look at the
playoff numbers and you know, it's like eight games seventeen
hundred yards, which again, like if you're going to you know,
go to a sixteen seventeen games, it's far below his
normal production or his normal efficiency in the regular season.
So I guess my question is where does the truth
lie with Lamar Jackson and how the league used him
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as a passer.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Yeah, I mean, I think Lamar has really done a
good job of growing into his best self. And I
think that the Ravens know who they are. They like
to take shots down the field. They like to push
the ball down the field with the tight ends, get
to the Zay Jones as the fast receivers, and now
they can run the ball or Lamar can run the ball.
And they just know how to build an offense and
they know what weapons they need in different spots to
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be able to be that kind of an offense where
it doesn't have to be It could be run Lamar's legs,
it could be Dereck Henry's legs, it can be Lamar's arm,
it could be you know, vertical passes. I think about
Lamar that he can hit the deep ball, and that's
so critical because that kind of it would ruin everything
if it's he couldn't do that, because defense would be like,
I'm just gonna take my chance and let's go get him.
And so I think Lamar is, you know, one of
the elite quarterbacks in the league. He's easily top ten.
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He's a guy that I think maybe they rain him
down a little bit in the postseason because I think
when they especially this last year, you know, I think
they were hoping that Derek Henry would just kind of
roll through this thing. Defenses. All you're trying to do
is kind of calm him down. But I still think
Lamar Jackson is an elite quarterback in the Nation Football League,
and I think he can win a Super Bowl with him.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Is this the year.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
I really kind of think of this. I mean, I
really feel like this is the year Kansas City does
not go to the Super Bowl. I really feel like
it is between Buffalo and Baltimore. Those two teams, to me,
are a level a part from everybody else. I do
think this Chargers team is going to be better than people,
you know. I think people expect the Charges to be good,
but I think they're going to be a much improved
team again this year. But it feels like if Derrick
(26:37):
Henry stays healthy, I can't I would be very comfortable
saying that Baltimore Ravens could be super Bow champions.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
M Mark Domin, Colin, Colin, his colin, his shot. Okay,
we were at Yeah, we were at Packers camp earlier
this week, and there's a lot of hope there and
and so far, Matthew Golden has like, well, if you're
gonna drave the wide receiver, that's a pretty good one
to draft, right. I look at that division, it's interesting.
(27:03):
Lions have been a top of it, but new coordinators,
some new pieces there, maybe maybe a step back. I
don't know what your thoughts are. Viking's third new quarterback
in three years, this one inexperienced, and the Bears should
be better, but again first time head coach, and we
still haven't seen it from Caleb Williams. I think it's
a great opportunity for the Packers, But I don't know
(27:24):
where you are. What are your thoughts on what's the
right you know, they start talking about Super Bowl or
at least hosting home playoff games. What's a reasonable outlook
for that team?
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Yeah, I think that is. I think that can they
close the gap or can they up their game? I
guess is more, you know, to catch Detroit Lions and
where they are, and I say they can. You know,
I talk about continuity. They're the team that have the
most continuity, and that's the biggest thing you can ask for,
you know. And you've got a bunch of players that
know each other. The offensive line looks intact. It's got
some depth to it too. Certainly, a wide receiver room's good.
(27:58):
You know, we talked about it before. The must of
being back where he wasn't an impact player just because
of injuries last year, and now you're going to have
him with Tucker Kraft and and I like Jordan Love
and then I also love you know, coach Afleey is
the defensive coordinator on the other side, and him having
another year of just the same system, the same you know,
desires of what we want the players to do, and
they're they're not learning a new system, they're just getting
better at that system. So I really do like the
(28:19):
Green Bay Packers. I think that they can get to twelve.
Thirteen is going to be hard, just because I think
the division in the NFC and looking at the schedule,
but I think twelve can win that division. As much
as you know, as good as Detroit was last year,
I think it's gonna be a lot more of that
traditional black and blue division where it's gonna be a
lot tougher. But the Minnesota is the one I'm not
And I like JJ McCarthy. I hope he's everything I
(28:40):
think he is. But I feel like Minnesota is going
to be hovering right around five hundred this year, so
I don't feel like they're going to be quite the
same push where that's where I think the Packers will
make up some ground.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You know, I heard Baker was on a podcast and
Baker talked about how Tampa just lets him be him, right,
he doesn't have to be a quote unquote franchise quarterback
in terms of persona and how he dresses and how
he acts. Is that fair? Is that why Tampa has
been able to be a place that he's more successful.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Yeah, and I think that, you know, it's Jason Light's
done a really good job of, you know, surrounding Baker
with some nice talent. You know, Bucky Irvin came in
there last year. He looks phenomenal in terms of his role.
For Shod White is a really good running back too,
So they got a one two punch there. When you've
got Godwin and Mike Evans, you're feeling pretty good about that.
And you know you've got a good tight endrum. You know,
guys that maybe aren't household names, but certainly are good
(29:30):
players when you just break them down by tape, and
so all those pieces come together and says, well, you know,
you surrounded them with stable pieces that are consistent players
that catch the ball, especially the running backs catch the
ball so well out of the backfield. All those are
part of like, well, yeah, I can understand that. But
you know, but when you talk to the players and
you talk to they see Baker as a leader, and
(29:52):
so he's doing it. It may not be to have
to be the rob ro guy, but he's certainly doing
the work to make them follow.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Mark awesome stuff. Once you have a great weekend. Next
week we got everybody playing preseason games, so it it
gets real. Enjoy that weekend. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Happy honest, Thanks log.
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Though we do this every Monday, it's a great way
of catching up on things we may have missed, things
that affected us personally that we wanted to share with you.
We call it love and hate.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
What did you love? God, I Love you? And what
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Speaker 1 (31:50):
Meetle's player Haters Love love love, love, love, hate, hate,
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Bump bump boom, boom boom. Let's start with Dan Byer.
He's a resident love a boy. Oh Danny, what'd you
left from the weekend?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Well, Doug.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
I thought that a lot of this would come up
in maybe the hate portion of the program, But I'm
gonna say something that I loved because it's gotten a
lot of hate on social media over the weekend. I
loved Vern Ludenquist in Happy Gilmore two. I thought that
Vern Lungquist stole the show. For those that haven't seen it,
(32:46):
I'm not going to ruin anything, but despite all of
the negative reviews, I feel that the takeaway is Vern
Lunquist and how Vern Lungquist I felt stole the show
in the movie.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Can I piggyback on that? I need to piggyback on
this because I chose. I chose this topic as my.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Love hold on, hold On, hold On, hold on, hold on,
go ahead.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
I'm sorry, never gets old.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Hold on hold on. So Christina, my superhow girlfriend, Christina's
son wanted to watch Happy Good More too. I probably
would not have been inclined to watch it, and man
if I didn't watch it, I wouldn't have caught this,
so I'm so glad I watched it. I am not
the audience for Adam Sandler movies. I never have. And
you can say you're just a movie snob who really
(33:38):
cares about sophisticated art, and I'll say, yes. You could say,
who are you to judge what's funny? And I'll say
I'm gonna judge you a lot, because I think dumb
people find Adam Sandler movie is funny. But I will
say this, I watched the entire thing and I I
came across a gym. So he's got all these amazing cameos,
and a lot of the cameos are sports talk personalities.
(34:02):
Stephen A. Smith, isn't it. Dan Patrick has a role
in it. There's a bunch of podcasters that I'm not
even familiar with, So he got a bunch of his
friends podcasting broadcasters, and I'm guessing he asked Doug to
be in the movie, and Doug, you may have had
a schedule conflict. But what I loved about this is
they had a subtle nod to you and the show
(34:23):
within the script, and it's really smart and I'm really
glad I came across this. So at some point, Shooter
McGavin has been released from the insane asylum and he
is supposed to lead a group of current golfers against
this other group that is like the live golf of fiction.
(34:44):
And he's brought in to give an inspirational speech. And
there's a hidden gem in here. Go ahead.
Speaker 8 (34:51):
You are the five golfers who represent our tour in
the grudge match against the Maxi League. I don't have
to tell you how important it is we beat them,
and here to talk about how we're going to accomplish
that is Shooter McGavin a Doug.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
I'll take it from here. So so an amazing subtle
nod to our show and the listeners. Obviously you may
have been booked that day, you couldn't be in the movie.
But I think they did it in a smarter way.
This appeals to me. This is actually something sophisticated within
an Adam Sandler movie. It's this right here, take a Doug.
(35:27):
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Awesome, that's for you guys. Right, I'll take the fact
that Adam Sandler listens to the show. Sam, what do
you got? What would you like? Fro the weekend. What'd
you love for the weekend?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I guess I'll be plugging one of our rivals, one
of our competitors here. But ESPN has been doing a
fifty states in fifty days to our.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Oh, they haven't gone to anywhere.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Well, they stopped in Iowa over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
They stop anywhere. They're just in a studio going like, hey,
shout out now.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Kevin de Gandhi. Kevin de Gandhi was at the Field
of Dreams movie site. So he was there and the
weather was poor. It's been a very rainy summer in
the Midwest and I think all over the country, so
it was pouring kind of throughout his time there. But
he stopped and he brought his sons with him and
they had at the end of the segment, nice fifteen
minute segment they played catch in the pouring rain. I
love that. I've always liked Kevin de Gandhi. I thought
(36:26):
he was He's one of the better talents there at ESPN.
And they also sort of laid the roadmap for what
the Field of Dreams movie site has planned for the future.
They're going to keep the movie site obviously in the house. Intact,
they want to expand it so they can have high
school tournaments, college and professional games all at this site.
They want to make it a destination for like Midwest
(36:48):
summer baseball. I thought it was really neat. I don't
want them to lose the charm of sort of the
corn everywhere. When I was lucky enough to go there
in twenty twenty one for that first Field of Dreams game,
like rows of corn everywhere and beautiful you know, lights
and cutouts and everything, it looked very nostalgic, very old timing.
And they don't they shouldn't lose that. I think that
(37:10):
they will keep a hold of that around the movie site.
But there's gonna be like a sprawling complex of different diamonds,
and they probably need to build more hotels in an area.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
O gosh, what I know, like the commercialization of it.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
Every suburb of every moderately sized city in the United
States is building like an eight diamond complex for and
it just never stops. It's it's I I say it
sam loving the Field of dream site. I've only been
there once, but I absolutely loved it. And what was
great about it was how it was away from everything,
(37:47):
how you kind of had to drive through town, at
least the way that I got there to get there. Now,
if you're there on there's sixteen other diamonds, you're not
in the country anymore.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Like it's that.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
I mean, you're still very clearly in the country like
you're it is. It's it's definitely they're not just keeping
like the one MLB diamond. And then the movie site.
They're gonna expand it. They wanted to.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Then they got a park somewhere.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yes, they trust me.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I lost my car in a cloverfield with other cars
and it was they got plenty of space out there.
But yeah, exactly like I said, you don't want to
lose the charm. You want to keep the rows of corn.
You want it to be like the backdrop is a
corn outfield. But yeah, some of these places where youth
baseball will be played, it's gonna look more commercial, like
Dan said, And I just hope that they handle it
(38:32):
in a way where it's still charming and nostalgic but
also attracts. They're trying to grow business there that you know,
they wanted to make it, make it into a business venture.
So I hope they handle it accordingly.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Uh, I say what I love, I love what Dion
Sanders did today. College football needs Deon Sanders. They just do.
College football needs a reason for you to watch. Think
about it. Now, how many you guys are not Southerners? Right, so,
I guess, Jay stew how many SEC coaches can you name?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Give me seven, I'll start, give me seven. Seven, I'll
start the bid in at seven.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
I'm gonna go under. I'm gonna go under. I your
camera's not up on the YouTube channel, by the way,
chick out the Fox Sports for the YouTube channel. I
I know there's three of them. I know you'll know.
Give me the.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Seven, Dennis FRANCIONI, oh, seriously, give me the seven. Let's see.
I kind of need the schools. Let's see. So we
told you Texas definitely no Sarkisian Sarcassian.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
U C l A U s C.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Guy.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Oh sorry, I'm sorry, sec usc.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I'm sorry. H Alabama, Alabama? What is his name exactly?
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Georgia Kalin Debor. We already went past it. You're not yeah,
you're not, you're not helping. Well, he didn't know. We know.
You know.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
My point is, okay, seventy five of the players change
places in their career. Yeah again, I don't know the number.
I'm just guessing that scenes about right. Seventy. Okay, So
the constant has always been the coaches. It is, but
I'm guessing most people don't know the coach at Michigan anymore.
(40:34):
All right, Sam, do you know the coach of Michigan's name?
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (40:38):
What is it? There? You go?
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Took over four Harbaugh.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
He took up for Harball in that last season as well, when.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
There were some uh, some suspensions for secionable things.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
So Dion Sanders makes people turn on college football and like,
look for better or for worse if you like or
don't like. I just didn't like some of the antics.
But they made Colorado probably the team that everybody watched
over the past two years. Cheering for, some cheering against
doesn't matter. So the fact that he beats cancer, we think, right,
(41:13):
this is doctor's like, hey, completely cured and with money
in the bank. And I'm sure had he said, hey,
I'm done here, Colorado would have compensated. Maybe not to
the full extent of his contract, but he's doing to
have made some money. Deon Sanders can do television, can
do podcast, can not work, And I'm sure he's okay.
Coming back to college football, despite the fact he had
(41:35):
his second health scare in just two years of being
at CU. When he doesn't have to coach his son,
doesn't get to coach his son, doesn't have to get
to coach the best player in the country. That's a
win for college football, to win for all of us.
That's a really good thing. I love it. Let's get
to what we hated for the weekend. Okay, there, damby
(42:01):
what you had from the weekend.
Speaker 7 (42:04):
This is gonna sound crazy because it's gonna start to
heat up. I'm surprised we didn't go to our resident hater.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah, you normally, but I just.
Speaker 7 (42:11):
That's okay, I know this is this is I'm just
gonna say it. It hasn't been as hot this summer
as I wish it has been in southern California. I
know the rest of the country is like, please, we
are sweltering here, but it has not been as warm
as it normally would and yesterday was a bit windy.
(42:31):
I'll tell you what, if you're able to go outside
and able to enjoy a nice dip in the water,
I don't like it when the wind blows and it's
it's cool, like I wanted to be sweltering hot at
least for just two weeks in the summertime, so then
you're automatically refreshed by cool water, you're not chilled by
(42:53):
a breeze. We're supposed to get warmer weather this week again.
I know, like the heat index by you, Doug was
like one hundred and because it was just humidity and
the whole deal. But that's what I didn't like about
the weekend. Another nice weekend, but didn't necessarily get that hot.
And when I swam, I got chilled by the wind.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
It has been in under the average summer temperatures here
in southern California, and.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yes, below average.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Below Yeah, you get what you go out. I'm saying
below average temperatures. The rest of the country has been hot, hot, hot,
but Dan just been.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
It's been it's been below average in a lot of
the Midwest. Now it's hot this week.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
That's not what I saw. It's been above average.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
And I say, friends of the my friends here in
Green Bay, it's been cooler and rainier, especially early summer.
You just said in Iowa it's been cooler and rainier.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Well, there's been some Yeah, there's been some hot heat.
There's been some heat waves going through.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Same thing in Oklahoma, so it has been cooler than usual,
and now it's supposed to be hotter than usual here
last month of summer.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Dan, just you wait, though, you know that by Labor
Day there's gonna be like one hundred and fifteen days.
Speaker 7 (43:59):
I know in the it's gonna be like the opening
of college football season, and it's gonna be like, man,
why is it this hot? My sister sent me just
a graphic, uh, dougas she probably lives about maybe about
hour and a half, like just southwest of Green Bay.
Heat index was one oh seven at her place on Saturday.
The ninety two degrees humanity was high. Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
It was hot.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
That's that's absolutely crazy. Okay, what about you are a
resident hater, jaseeuw.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Okay, Doug, thank you. I'll take it from here, you dog.
I'll take it from here. Thank you, Doug. I'll take
it from here. Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here, Doug,
I'll take it from here. Did you guys watch the
a's highlights from this weekend. I didn't know this, but
fourth generation broadcaster Chris Carey has a major League job.
(44:53):
He's the a's broadcaster. A no doubt her home run
was hit in the game, But if you listen to
the call, you got a different version. One two pitch,
high in the air, deep to right. That ball is foul.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Or gone.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
That ball was absolutely launched law dog posing him up
at the dish.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
He knew it off the bat. It was just a
matter of how far foul or gone by the way
the ball landed in right center. Ye, not even close
to the pole if you it was Lawrence Butler who
hit it. And I'm gonna I'll give Chris Carrie an
excuse here. He actually went on social media and he
(45:41):
had a very accountable apology. But he lost the ball
in the lights, and the right fielder didn't move. The
right fielder showed up the pitcher, he didn't even move.
Lawrence Butler did what all hitters do now and he
just pimped his home run. So the broadcaster had no
indication of where the ball was based on the fielders
(46:01):
or the hitter. But this is kind of a proxy hate.
I don't hate this as much as John Ramos hates it,
cause the one thing that John Ramos are our old
tech producer that we love dearly. He's a friend of ours.
He hated nepotism. He doesn't think Chris Carey should have
that job. And Chris Carey proved to John Ramos this
(46:23):
weekend that he shouldn't have that job. Chris Carey the
great grandson of Harry Carey. Holy cow, John Ramos hates you.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Wow, Samon, what do you hate from the weekend?
Speaker 4 (46:38):
All right?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
So Friday night, like many people, I sat down to
watch Happy Gilmore two. And I've only walked out of
one movie in the movie theater before in my life.
That was American Hustle. I don't know why it rankled
me so much, but with like ten minutes left in
that film, I just got got up and walked out.
Maybe I'd have to revisit the film. Maybe It's not
as bad as I thought. But I turned off Happy
(47:00):
Gilmore too with thirty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
I did end up finishing at Sunday night, and my
opinion didn't change. The movie didn't just somehow get better.
This was a labor to get through. This was a chore.
This was not a good movie. It didn't need to
be made. It was too long, it was just there.
It was bloated. This film was bloated, and it would
have been better off. It had been better served if
it wasn't made in the original Happy Gilmore could just
(47:24):
stand alone because this movie was honestly, it was boring.
When a comedy is boring, you've lost me, You've lost
the audience. I didn't really laugh at the movie. I
didn't think it was very funny. I wanted to like it.
I like Adam Sandler. I loved Happy Gilmore the original,
so I went went in with low expectations, which was
just what I was told to have, and my expectations
(47:45):
were not even met. I thought this film was just
like first half of it was two passes through the
buffet line, and the second half of the film just
got so ridiculous. It was like you're going back to
the pasta in breadsticks. Portion of the buffet it was
nothing but filler. I was really disappointed this. I feel
like Netflix just cuts checks and they put out a
lot of slop, and this was a slop. This was
(48:06):
a slop fest. So I hated that movie. I really,
I really hated it because I don't turn like what
I felt like it was a waste of my time.
To finish it. I did eventually finish it. But I
think if it's something you don't have to finish a
movie just because it's there, you can turn it off
and watch something else.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
You can read a book. So I turned it off.
I had had enough.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
I'll say something I hated, but it again, this is
more of a personal hatred, it's not universal. So I
spent the last four days in New England. My son's
gone to a camp in Friburg, Maine. It's called forest.
It's called Indian Acres. Sorry, forest Acres is the girls camp,
indian Acres. He loves it and he had a great,
great weekends like parents weekend, right, So you go up
(48:48):
there and visit.
Speaker 7 (48:48):
Well, I think I think it's called guardian Acres now, Doug, Yeah,
I think.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
When yeah, when I when I have something to make
her change it, when I, uh, will go for lunch,
like you know, New England lots of pubs and taverns,
lots of them, and so I do a little research
on which pub and tavern different kinds of food, you know,
like there's one that's got great lobster and lobster roles,
it's one that's got good barbecue. Whatever I had forgotten
(49:16):
that the Midwest and especially Northeastern bar at lunch is
very different than the West Coast bar at lunch. The
West Coast bar at lunch is for I want to
watch some sports, I want to get some food. I
may want to make a little eye contact quick conversation
with the bartender, but outside of that, it's a way
to kind of eat quickly and get stuff done and
(49:38):
get out. It's restaurant. L liked the New England bar
is you sit down and those people apparently have nothing
going on, nothing to do, and they simply want to
hear your life story and share with you yours, which is
very endearing. It's just I'm not Cliff Cleveland. This is
not cheers. I don't I like being where someone no
(50:02):
one knows my name. I want to be where somebody
no one knows my name, not where everybody knows my name.
It's like I'm sitting down there and I'm getting interviewed
before I go on a first date with a girl
or before I get a job. Like literally, every day
you sit down any where you from, what do you
think of the sucks? What are you thinking of uniforms?
What do you think of the Patriots. I like to hire.
(50:22):
What do you think, like just pepper, pepper Pepper, Like, hey, dude,
I just I really wanted a smash burger and a
and Arnold Palmer, and I want to eat it as
fast as I can and give the waiter a little
or bartender or bar yeah, bartender a little tip, and
I want to get out. So I just hate that
(50:42):
I can't just be isolated at the bar the way
I am on the West coast when you get to
the Midwest and especially Northeast, where the Northeast is not
friendly people unless you sit down to Bay at lunchtime
on a Thursday of Friday, especially at a Friday, when
lunch becomes happy hout, which becomes dinner, which becomes go
(51:04):
home and talk about the socks.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Some do name Doug.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Some do name Doug, And that is love and hate
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And a couple of cold beverages. And we were good
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We've got a great show for you planned, including who's
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would be very very lonely, very lonely.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yes, emmy, sorry, we are just starting the show. But
I was curious, what are your favorite what's your favorite
Blizzard combo?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I mean, I'm an oreo cookie guy, like put Puru
in there. But I again, they didn't ask me. They
asked my favorite blizzard, but they didn't ask me. Is
what I like to order from DQ? Dip cone? Oh yeah,
vanilla dip it in the chocolate. Oh man, so good,
so good. And by the way, again, per Hay has
got leave my son who knows about chicken strips and
chicken sandwiches from every spot. He's DQ, he says, underrated.
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I was like, I don't know where they rank in
the rankings. It's like, no, no, no, that the chicken strips
or chicken fingers or whatever they call it, they're all
the same. They're fantastic at DQ. So there you go.
There's your there's your dq D, and everybody else is
not like yeah, I kind of do like DQ. I
may not have it, but I like it. No one
dislikes it. Okay, I'll give you somebody that people do are.
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It's polarizing, like and dislike is Lebron James. So there
was this picture of Lebron Maverick Carter, his agent, and
Nikolae Jokicic's agent on a boat and there's lots of like,
what are they talking about? Is Lebron going to Denver?
Is Yokich coming to la, what's going on? Then?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
It was yesterday or earlier today. That was yesterday. It
came out that the conversation was in regards to Maverick
Carter starting a league, some international league where you have
men's teams and women's teams and it'll be like Live Golf,
only for the NBA. Like wow, that's genius. Right. Everybody
(03:56):
takes an idea and I like, I don't. I don't
know if Kudoba came first or if Chipotle came first,
but somebody sold somebody else's fast casual idea, right, and
then you look at all the fast cash places. Then
you guys have had kava, like kava came in, Like
I will do the Greek form of it. There is
an Indian food form of it. But as I told you,
(04:18):
no disrespect to my Indian brothers and sisters, but I
just I don't do Indian food. It's like the only
thing I don't do. I don't. I just don't. It's
just not my jam. But the bigger point is, like
you know, I obviously Live has made a lot of
(04:38):
people a lot of money. It has broken through. They
have partnered with the PGA. No one knows you know,
what's going to happen to in the future. But a
lot of guys have gotten rich off it, and it's
it's interesting, and they try and do the kind of
rock and roll NBA introductions and try and spice it
up whatever. And golf, which can be seen as lame,
is trying to be made cool by live golf whatever.
(05:00):
Whether it's working or not working, it's still surviving. You
guys are still getting paid and so it's lasted this long,
so it has worked. But but I have a hypothesis
that I'd like to share with you, and you tell
me if it makes sense. Okay. Chris Prefett, by the way,
is filming it for Dan Byer's here. Hey, welcome and Chris,
of course you got Iowa Sam and m Oman j Stew. Okay.
(05:24):
So I think most people who watch and cover the
NBA are familiar and some people or not that Lebron
James has made it very very clear he nearly wants
to own an NBA team. He wants to own a
Vegas expansion team. Vegas expansion team. And many of you
(05:46):
are driving along, you're sitting your cubicle, or you listen
to the DG Show. Maybe you're listen to us on
the app and you're like, yeah, I remember something about that. Okay.
So I think, first of all, this this meeting very
easily could have happened in secret and no one knows
about it. Why would somebody take a picture and then
put it out on social media? Because they want you
to know it's happening, right, that's inarguable. I don't have
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to talk to somebody in Lebron's camp or Yokich's camp
to know that the reason it was out on social
media is they want you to know what's happening. Why
would they want you to know what's happening. Well, there's
only two possible reasons. One, Lebron was told he's not
getting a team, which is altogether possible, maybe even likely,
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because as deep as Lebron's pockets are, they're not that deep.
They're not that deep. The Lebron being worth a billion
dollars it sounds good, it's very likely to not be
real because I'm sure a lot of it is tied
up in Nike stock and in other stocks. Not that
that doesn't count in your terms of your evaluation, but
(06:56):
I think a lot of it is based upon his
personal brand, his personal value, not how much actual cash
he has or how much how many actual assets he
has and whether that those assets equal out to a
billion dollars ember NBA teams. We just watched the Lakers
go for ten billion dollars billion, So I know NBA players,
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and Lebron seems to be the richest of them, but
that pales in comparison to the guys that are in
the in the financial financial markets. So there's one of
only two possibles that I've come up with. Either one,
he was told he's not getting a team and this
is his way of going. Or two, he wants to
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leverage his way to getting a team, and the only
way to get leverage is if you don't get me
this team, I'm going to go out and form this
other league that's going to be in competition with you
with the hopes of ultimately getting a team that way.
That's the only two possible solutions I can think of,
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or reasons I can think of why Lebron would nullly
have this meeting. Having the meeting, you could take a
meeting with anybody, but why do you want to take
a picture of it? Why do you want people to
know what it was about. Why do you want to know?
Why do you want to include Nikolay Jokic's agent in it.
It's pretty obvious right that this is I'm sure they're
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going to sell it as this is our next step.
This is what we do after we retire, is we
own NBA teams. We force expansion into Europe by putting
together teams in Europe, and then ultimately they joined the NBA.
Or maybe it's because we make them pay us, we
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make them give us a seat at the table, or
maybe it's an fu The issue with any league outside
the end, in comparison to golf is golfers, outside of
their sponsorship money, if they don't play well on Thursday
and Friday, they don't get paid. They don't get to
hang around for Saturday and Sunday. Whereas NBA players they're
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plenty well compensated. And oh yeah, by the way, that
money is based upon TV deals, and a new league
wouldn't have enough teams, nor would have the star power
to have those big TV deals. And if the sale was, hey,
we're gonna launch with Lebron James, the problem is that
by the time Lebron James' contract expires, say they start
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a new league and he is the centerpiece of it.
It'll be forty one years old, and it'll be playing
against rummies, and it will diminish all the things he
did in the NBA. It just will. That's the reality
to it. Okay, it'll diminish what he's done in the NBA.
And the last part and maybe the most important part
(09:55):
to it that this is my takeaway, and it may
not sit well with you, but I know it to
be reality, which is Lebron has never cared about Laker
fans or being a Laker. He clearly doesn't care about
being a Miami Heat and very likely doesn't care about
being a Cleveland Cavalier and what all that represents because
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he left there twice, and conducting such a meeting and
allowing your agent with a firm that you started to
tweet out that picture showing that you're trying to do
harm to the league that has helped make you into
a billionaire, only shows that Lebron James cares only about
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the relationships of people he knew in high school. And
that's it. That's it. He cared about JJ Reddick and
their relationship. He never would allow his agent to go
public and say they're basically they're not a championship team.
If he cared about the Lakers, he wouldn't do so
many of the things he's done while being a member
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of the Lakers. Who discussed this, is he cared about
being a member of the Miami Heat, he would have
just left. Why they played in four NBA finals, it
won two of them. He shown no value, nor has
he ever claimed that as partner. You know, this is
who Lebron is. It definitely tracks he's somebody who doesn't
actually care about anybody outside of his inner circle. And
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again that's okay with the exception of the fact that
he desperately want to be loved by everybody and cared
for by everybody. But those are really transactional relationships. So
the big takeaways from Lebron meeting with Jokic's agent is
I think it's a leverage play or an fu play
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because he was either told he's not going to get
a team, or he wants to try and force himself
to getting a team, and the only way he can
do it is to force his way by helping create
this new league. The miscalculation is that league has zero
value unless it has stars, and the best star would
be Lebron James, who, don't get me wrong, people would
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come out and watch in you know, if he's start
trying to start a league, people would watch, but they're
not going to pay attention to a league, and that
at some point when your best and most known player retires,
then would he have nothing. It feels like it's simply
a leverage play in order to get the NBA to
give him that team in Vegas, which they may or
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may not have during the next cycle.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
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Speaker 1 (12:36):
It's a Doug gottlab show Fox Sports Radio. I think
we discussed it on the show, but it's funny a
lot of other people came around to it, which is,
how many people do you think knew that Trey Lance
was on the Chargers before last night? Jay Steal? But
like percentage of people you.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Think, let's say seventeen and a half.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
There you go, good, guess that's all he's your guests.
I know when you were trying to guess what people
think and know, and we have no real Neil clue.
I get it. It's my favorite part of the show,
it's your favorite part of the show.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I know.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I'm gonna say eight percent, Doug, eight percent of the
general public knew that Trey Lance had gone to the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Well, I think people forgot that he's been with the Cowboys, right,
just again, like, go back and look at last season.
Go back and look at last season, and Cooper Rush
took over, Trey Lance was the third string quarterback and
(13:37):
he got to play in one He got to play
major snaps in one game, the last game of the season. Anyway,
here's Jim Harball's head coach with the Chargers, talking about
his performance last night, which was really good Trey Lance.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Uh, you know, big night for Trey. Just played calm,
played cool, collected, ran the ran the operation. Thought he
threw the ball really well. I thought he really he
had the same kind of composure and poise, you know,
just in control. I mean, it's a there's a presence
that that I've been seeing all camp.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
He's had a heck of a camp.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
And then he went out in the game and and
did that. Just the feeling of he needs game reps
and just wanted to give him that. That was the game,
the game plan, you know, get out there and plays.
He's been playing good and you know, college not as
not as much as most guys have coming out of
college in terms of starts and games. And then then
(14:32):
he gets gets into pro ball and you know, wins
the starting job and then gets hurt. So he hasn't
had a lot of a lot of game experience, and
that's what we're trying to give him. And he acquitted himself.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Well, I need a guess here, Jason. He's been in
the league since twenty twenty one. Okay, it's too And
remember he was the third pick in the draft. How
many NFL games do you think he's appeared in?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Don't look, I know that he did. He appeared in
one game. I remember that one he got hurt against
the Bears.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Right backways to San Francisco, I think.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
So, yeah, there was a snow game just he was
a starter.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
He was a starter for a for a short period
time in San Francisco. Okay, so you want you want
to venture a guess how many games? Remember we're talking
five years in the NFL. How many of you thinks
have played I'll guess five twelve. Oh, I don't know
if it starts twelve appearances in the Nation Football League,
and it's probably like in the seven starts, and if
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you remember his senior year in college or is his
last year in college at North Dakota State, I believe
they played like one game. That's it. So twelve appearances
high starts. So what Jim Harbaugh is saying isn't wrong. Remember,
and Taylor Heineke is the other guy he's competing with
to be a backup in Taylor Heinekey has led the
(15:56):
were they the commanders then? I think the commanders to
the playoff? Right? He's also been the starting quarterback with
the Carolina Panthers, so like, we know what we can do,
what he can do. But it's really weird that people
are like, dude, Kyle Shanahan, what's he doing? Right Jim
Harbaugh's quarterback, which were like, he's played five years in
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the NFL, he started five games. There's very few teams,
if any, that will start a quarterback week one of
the preseason that has started five games in the NFL
that's been in the league in his sixth year. Doesn't
happen very rarely. So he's supposed to perform well he's
supposed to be calm. They're not throwing exotic blitzes at him.
(16:41):
And he has worked really hard to improve his throwing
mechanics because by all estimation and throw a great ball.
But like I just I can't get geeked out, like,
oh my gosh, Chargers got a great backup if Trey
Lance becomes the answer. Chargers got mad to problems. Cowboys
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last year locked at lost Dak Prescott. There wasn't anybody going, like,
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Outleb Show on Fox Sports Radio course. Mark was the
former gentlem manager of the tamp Bay Buccaneers. He worked
his whole life in professional football, So I love this one.
I don't know if you saw the addition to the
Micah Parsons saying I want to be traded. So Michael
Parsons came out, it was about an hour ago, guys
on social media. I don't want to be here anymore.
I won't be traded. And then Edwarder, who always has
(18:32):
more and has covered the Cowboys for years, like Micah
Parsons is staying at Cowboys camp because he doesn't want
to incur a fifty thousand dollars fine, Like, yeah, I
cannot stand being here. I'm out, but I'm not gonna
leave because I don't want to lose fifty grand a day,
so yeah, help me, help me with this mark likelihood
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that Micah Parsons remains a cowboy.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
I still think it's pretty strong. You know, a lot
of times we've heard this one before, like I've always
wanted to be here, but it's just not going to
work out. And then Miles Garrett told us this story, right,
what was six months ago?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, he had the goodbye letter. He had the goodbye
letter even that that was posted.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
It's right, So we've seen this song and danced before.
Not that I'm disappointed in Michael Parsons or having but
you know, obviously, if you read the article of what
Michael Parsons red wrote and you kind of have to
trust that maybe he's telling the truth. What could have
felt like it it's just that there hasn't been a
lot of good faith negotiations that were with his agent,
and you can have conversations with the player, but you know,
(19:34):
every club kind of knows that that's a little taboo,
and it doesn't even matter what the player really says
because at the end of the day, you know, the
agent's getting paid for a reason to be able to
help negotiate it. So look, I look at this whole
thing and say, it makes sense. I get it. I
don't think the Cowboys will trade him, and I don't
think that. I think this is going to be a
two to week, two week, three week thing, and I
have a feel that Michael Parsons will suddenly have money
(19:55):
solve the problems.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah. Here's my guess on the agent thing, just to guess, right,
we kind of talked about the agents for the ones
that push for the longer guaranteed deals, but the agents
are the ones that have the non guaranteed things tacked
in because it helps them quote unquote win right in publicity. Yeah,
it feels like the agent was just trying to bleed
the Cowboys and they probably pulled them aside, like look, dude,
(20:20):
like that deal is never getting done. Ever, here's a
real deal. You think about it and how it Then
he calls his agents like, yeah, they told me your
way off, here's the number, and the agent just hits
the roof.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Yeah, you know what, I think there's a lot of
truth to that. I also think that it's the same
thing that's happened with Trey Hendrickson. Is the market moved
so fast this year on defensive line in these elite
pass rushers, and so the agent, if the story is true,
the agent was right, you know, just let's just wait,
let's let some deals come through here, and then then
we'll come in and swoop in at the end and
get our number. The only thing I really think is
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happening here is again, if it has been any negotiations
to say, but I think, you know, I thought that
maybe Michael was pushing for a huge number, a number
that's going to you know, blow everybody else out of
the water, and I thought that might be stilling the negotiations.
The market always moves. It used to be trying to
get a discount from a player if you did the
deal early. Now it's like you're getting the discount because
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you know the market's going to continue to go up.
At least you're getting into the discounts. It's hard, Doug,
when you kind of listen to these things, because you know,
three years from now, everyone of these guys are signing out,
we're gonna be like, well, wait a second, look what
he's making. And so you've got to figure out an organization,
how do you want to handle it, and how does
the player, respect the deal. When you're starting to take
these kind of numbers and putting them in reality of
forty million dollars a year, I mean, that's that's just
(21:39):
a hard number to fathom. But that's where we're at.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Stug Outlive Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, what
about the Cowboys as a team, right there is the
there is the in the back of your mind like, well,
if're I can be even good, maybe we move him.
But again, the Cowboys are always trying to make themselves
at least above average, if not better. Where are you
(22:03):
on this Cowboys roster?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
I still think they're very competitive. I think, you know,
the Commanders obviously were spectacular last year, and so obviously
Eagles were champions, and so when you look at this division,
you know, the Giants seem like a long ways away,
and then those other three teams, so like the Gamer
a game or two apart. Totally, I still think the
Cowboys rosters certainly counted enough. Depend on the help of
(22:26):
how things go. You know, this has been interesting for
me though. Michaeh. Parsons is a player that you know,
you thought might get have done earlier than it's gotten
to this point. It kills me also that maybe there's
something that Cowboys feel about Micah, whatever that is or
whatever they may feel, it's just if this one's taking
a little bit longer. Usually the Cowboys like to get
you to camp and then negotiat and do the deal.
That's how their mo is usually known through the agent world.
(22:47):
But this one's just not worked out that way. So
there's something else holding the Cowboys back from really pulling
the trigger, and that may be something we never get
to hear about until if he does leave. But again,
I think Micah Parsons in the end the stage.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Of Cowboys Stuck Out Leave show here on Fox Sports Radio,
Trey Lance looks good last night, But I try to
tell people now, many people don't know who's on the Chargers,
Like he was on the Cowboys last year and their
starting quarterback went down and no one was like, hey,
we got to play Trey Lance. How do we process
what we saw last night and the reality of who
(23:20):
Try Lance actually is now.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
I mean, some of the throws were really great designs.
To me. More than was great throws, right, it was
you know, rolling out and play actions and just different
things that allowed him to just kind of flip and
toss the ball. Yes, he had some good throws, you know,
and I love collins Worth. I certainly loved watching Brent
Musburger just to be able to kind of reminisce in
my mind about just Brent Musberger in the three years.
(23:43):
But it was like it was almost over and done
about Trey Lance to me last night, because this is
a guy that' to your point, third pick, great, he's
having a nice Hall of Fame game. Let's get back
to where this gume really is going to be in
a couple of weeks. To me, when I watched the
Hall of Fame game, yes, I'm looking for young guys
to have their shot, you know, the first year guys,
undrafted guys, you're really looking at that. The other thing
(24:03):
is the gym you're looking for, which is why the
Chargers dominated. Is they played a much cleaner game, right Doug.
I mean, no interceptions, They had the fumble, but they
didn't lose it. They only had three penalties. I mean
the Chargers fundamentally just played a much cleaner game. And
that to me is more important than the Trey Lance
having a nice out in for a preseason game.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I don't know if you heard this, but John Harbaugh
was absolutely effuse in his praise of Lamar Jackson, right,
And Lamar Jackson not just as a quarterback, but Lamar
Jackson as a as a passer. And I get if
you look at the raw numbers from last year, you
(24:43):
you cold agree with. But then you look at the
playoff numbers and you know, it's like eight games seventeen
hundred yards, which again, like if you're going to you know,
go to a sixteen seventeen games, it's far below his
normal production or his normal efficiency in the regular season.
So I guess my question is where does the truth
lie with Lamar Jackson and how the league used him
(25:05):
as a passer.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Yeah, I mean, I think Lamar has really done a
good job of growing into his best self. And I
think that the Ravens know who they are. They like
to take shots down the field. They like to push
the ball down the field with the tight ends, get
to the Zay Jones as the fast receivers, and now
they can run the ball or Lamar can run the ball.
And they just know how to build an offense and
they know what weapons they need in different spots to
(25:27):
be able to be that kind of an offense where
it doesn't have to be It could be run Lamar's legs,
it could be Dereck Henry's legs, it can be Lamar's arm,
it could be you know, vertical passes. I think about
Lamar that he can hit the deep ball, and that's
so critical because that kind of it would ruin everything
if it's he couldn't do that, because defense would be like,
I'm just gonna take my chance and let's go get him.
And so I think Lamar is, you know, one of
the elite quarterbacks in the league. He's easily top ten.
(25:49):
He's a guy that I think maybe they rain him
down a little bit in the postseason because I think
when they especially this last year, you know, I think
they were hoping that Derek Henry would just kind of
roll through this thing. Defenses. All you're trying to do
is kind of calm him down. But I still think
Lamar Jackson is an elite quarterback in the Nation Football League,
and I think he can win a Super Bowl with him.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Is this the year.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
I really kind of think of this. I mean, I
really feel like this is the year Kansas City does
not go to the Super Bowl. I really feel like
it is between Buffalo and Baltimore. Those two teams, to me,
are a level a part from everybody else. I do
think this Chargers team is going to be better than people,
you know. I think people expect the Charges to be good,
but I think they're going to be a much improved
team again this year. But it feels like if Derrick
(26:37):
Henry stays healthy, I can't I would be very comfortable
saying that Baltimore Ravens could be super Bow champions.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
M Mark Domin, Colin, Colin, his colin, his shot. Okay,
we were at Yeah, we were at Packers camp earlier
this week, and there's a lot of hope there and
and so far, Matthew Golden has like, well, if you're
gonna drave the wide receiver, that's a pretty good one
to draft, right. I look at that division, it's interesting.
(27:03):
Lions have been a top of it, but new coordinators,
some new pieces there, maybe maybe a step back. I
don't know what your thoughts are. Viking's third new quarterback
in three years, this one inexperienced, and the Bears should
be better, but again first time head coach, and we
still haven't seen it from Caleb Williams. I think it's
a great opportunity for the Packers, But I don't know
(27:24):
where you are. What are your thoughts on what's the
right you know, they start talking about Super Bowl or
at least hosting home playoff games. What's a reasonable outlook
for that team?
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Yeah, I think that is. I think that can they
close the gap or can they up their game? I
guess is more, you know, to catch Detroit Lions and
where they are, and I say they can. You know,
I talk about continuity. They're the team that have the
most continuity, and that's the biggest thing you can ask for,
you know. And you've got a bunch of players that
know each other. The offensive line looks intact. It's got
some depth to it too. Certainly, a wide receiver room's good.
(27:58):
You know, we talked about it before. The must of
being back where he wasn't an impact player just because
of injuries last year, and now you're going to have
him with Tucker Kraft and and I like Jordan Love
and then I also love you know, coach Afleey is
the defensive coordinator on the other side, and him having
another year of just the same system, the same you know,
desires of what we want the players to do, and
they're they're not learning a new system, they're just getting
better at that system. So I really do like the
(28:19):
Green Bay Packers. I think that they can get to twelve.
Thirteen is going to be hard, just because I think
the division in the NFC and looking at the schedule,
but I think twelve can win that division. As much
as you know, as good as Detroit was last year,
I think it's gonna be a lot more of that
traditional black and blue division where it's gonna be a
lot tougher. But the Minnesota is the one I'm not
And I like JJ McCarthy. I hope he's everything I
(28:40):
think he is. But I feel like Minnesota is going
to be hovering right around five hundred this year, so
I don't feel like they're going to be quite the
same push where that's where I think the Packers will
make up some ground.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You know, I heard Baker was on a podcast and
Baker talked about how Tampa just lets him be him, right,
he doesn't have to be a quote unquote franchise quarterback
in terms of persona and how he dresses and how
he acts. Is that fair? Is that why Tampa has
been able to be a place that he's more successful.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Yeah, and I think that, you know, it's Jason Light's
done a really good job of, you know, surrounding Baker
with some nice talent. You know, Bucky Irvin came in
there last year. He looks phenomenal in terms of his role.
For Shod White is a really good running back too,
So they got a one two punch there. When you've
got Godwin and Mike Evans, you're feeling pretty good about that.
And you know you've got a good tight endrum. You know,
guys that maybe aren't household names, but certainly are good
(29:30):
players when you just break them down by tape, and
so all those pieces come together and says, well, you know,
you surrounded them with stable pieces that are consistent players
that catch the ball, especially the running backs catch the
ball so well out of the backfield. All those are
part of like, well, yeah, I can understand that. But
you know, but when you talk to the players and
you talk to they see Baker as a leader, and
(29:52):
so he's doing it. It may not be to have
to be the rob ro guy, but he's certainly doing
the work to make them follow.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Mark awesome stuff. Once you have a great weekend. Next
week we got everybody playing preseason games, so it it
gets real. Enjoy that weekend. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Happy honest, Thanks log.
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some some Aaron Rodgers coming up before we get to that.
Though we do this every Monday, it's a great way
of catching up on things we may have missed, things
that affected us personally that we wanted to share with you.
We call it love and hate.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
What did you love? God, I Love you? And what
did you hate?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Meetle's player Haters Love love love, love, love, hate, hate,
hate hated? What'd you love from the weekend? What'd you
hate from the weekend? We share with you our four
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(32:14):
Bump bump boom, boom boom. Let's start with Dan Byer.
He's a resident love a boy. Oh Danny, what'd you
left from the weekend?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Well, Doug.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
I thought that a lot of this would come up
in maybe the hate portion of the program, But I'm
gonna say something that I loved because it's gotten a
lot of hate on social media over the weekend. I
loved Vern Ludenquist in Happy Gilmore two. I thought that
Vern Lungquist stole the show. For those that haven't seen it,
(32:46):
I'm not going to ruin anything, but despite all of
the negative reviews, I feel that the takeaway is Vern
Lunquist and how Vern Lungquist I felt stole the show
in the movie.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Can I piggyback on that? I need to piggyback on
this because I chose. I chose this topic as my.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Love hold on, hold On, hold On, hold on, hold on,
go ahead.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
I'm sorry, never gets old.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Hold on hold on. So Christina, my superhow girlfriend, Christina's
son wanted to watch Happy Good More too. I probably
would not have been inclined to watch it, and man
if I didn't watch it, I wouldn't have caught this,
so I'm so glad I watched it. I am not
the audience for Adam Sandler movies. I never have. And
you can say you're just a movie snob who really
(33:38):
cares about sophisticated art, and I'll say, yes. You could say,
who are you to judge what's funny? And I'll say
I'm gonna judge you a lot, because I think dumb
people find Adam Sandler movie is funny. But I will
say this, I watched the entire thing and I I
came across a gym. So he's got all these amazing cameos,
and a lot of the cameos are sports talk personalities.
(34:02):
Stephen A. Smith, isn't it. Dan Patrick has a role
in it. There's a bunch of podcasters that I'm not
even familiar with, So he got a bunch of his
friends podcasting broadcasters, and I'm guessing he asked Doug to
be in the movie, and Doug, you may have had
a schedule conflict. But what I loved about this is
they had a subtle nod to you and the show
(34:23):
within the script, and it's really smart and I'm really
glad I came across this. So at some point, Shooter
McGavin has been released from the insane asylum and he
is supposed to lead a group of current golfers against
this other group that is like the live golf of fiction.
(34:44):
And he's brought in to give an inspirational speech. And
there's a hidden gem in here. Go ahead.
Speaker 8 (34:51):
You are the five golfers who represent our tour in
the grudge match against the Maxi League. I don't have
to tell you how important it is we beat them,
and here to talk about how we're going to accomplish
that is Shooter McGavin a Doug.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
I'll take it from here. So so an amazing subtle
nod to our show and the listeners. Obviously you may
have been booked that day, you couldn't be in the movie.
But I think they did it in a smarter way.
This appeals to me. This is actually something sophisticated within
an Adam Sandler movie. It's this right here, take a Doug.
(35:27):
I'll take it from here.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Awesome, that's for you guys. Right, I'll take the fact
that Adam Sandler listens to the show. Sam, what do
you got? What would you like? Fro the weekend. What'd
you love for the weekend?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I guess I'll be plugging one of our rivals, one
of our competitors here. But ESPN has been doing a
fifty states in fifty days to our.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Oh, they haven't gone to anywhere.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Well, they stopped in Iowa over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
They stop anywhere. They're just in a studio going like, hey,
shout out now.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Kevin de Gandhi. Kevin de Gandhi was at the Field
of Dreams movie site. So he was there and the
weather was poor. It's been a very rainy summer in
the Midwest and I think all over the country, so
it was pouring kind of throughout his time there. But
he stopped and he brought his sons with him and
they had at the end of the segment, nice fifteen
minute segment they played catch in the pouring rain. I
love that. I've always liked Kevin de Gandhi. I thought
(36:26):
he was He's one of the better talents there at ESPN.
And they also sort of laid the roadmap for what
the Field of Dreams movie site has planned for the future.
They're going to keep the movie site obviously in the house. Intact,
they want to expand it so they can have high
school tournaments, college and professional games all at this site.
They want to make it a destination for like Midwest
(36:48):
summer baseball. I thought it was really neat. I don't
want them to lose the charm of sort of the
corn everywhere. When I was lucky enough to go there
in twenty twenty one for that first Field of Dreams game,
like rows of corn everywhere and beautiful you know, lights
and cutouts and everything, it looked very nostalgic, very old timing.
And they don't they shouldn't lose that. I think that
(37:10):
they will keep a hold of that around the movie site.
But there's gonna be like a sprawling complex of different diamonds,
and they probably need to build more hotels in an area.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
O gosh, what I know, like the commercialization of it.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
Every suburb of every moderately sized city in the United
States is building like an eight diamond complex for and
it just never stops. It's it's I I say it
sam loving the Field of dream site. I've only been
there once, but I absolutely loved it. And what was
great about it was how it was away from everything,
(37:47):
how you kind of had to drive through town, at
least the way that I got there to get there. Now,
if you're there on there's sixteen other diamonds, you're not
in the country anymore.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Like it's that.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
I mean, you're still very clearly in the country like
you're it is. It's it's definitely they're not just keeping
like the one MLB diamond. And then the movie site.
They're gonna expand it. They wanted to.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Then they got a park somewhere.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yes, they trust me.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I lost my car in a cloverfield with other cars
and it was they got plenty of space out there.
But yeah, exactly like I said, you don't want to
lose the charm. You want to keep the rows of corn.
You want it to be like the backdrop is a
corn outfield. But yeah, some of these places where youth
baseball will be played, it's gonna look more commercial, like
Dan said, And I just hope that they handle it
(38:32):
in a way where it's still charming and nostalgic but
also attracts. They're trying to grow business there that you know,
they wanted to make it, make it into a business venture.
So I hope they handle it accordingly.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Uh, I say what I love, I love what Dion
Sanders did today. College football needs Deon Sanders. They just do.
College football needs a reason for you to watch. Think
about it. Now, how many you guys are not Southerners? Right, so,
I guess, Jay stew how many SEC coaches can you name?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Give me seven, I'll start, give me seven. Seven, I'll
start the bid in at seven.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
I'm gonna go under. I'm gonna go under. I your
camera's not up on the YouTube channel, by the way,
chick out the Fox Sports for the YouTube channel. I
I know there's three of them. I know you'll know.
Give me the.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Seven, Dennis FRANCIONI, oh, seriously, give me the seven. Let's see.
I kind of need the schools. Let's see. So we
told you Texas definitely no Sarkisian Sarcassian.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
U C l A U s C.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
Guy.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Oh sorry, I'm sorry, sec usc.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I'm sorry. H Alabama, Alabama? What is his name exactly?
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Georgia Kalin Debor. We already went past it. You're not yeah,
you're not, you're not helping. Well, he didn't know. We know.
You know.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
My point is, okay, seventy five of the players change
places in their career. Yeah again, I don't know the number.
I'm just guessing that scenes about right. Seventy. Okay, So
the constant has always been the coaches. It is, but
I'm guessing most people don't know the coach at Michigan anymore.
(40:34):
All right, Sam, do you know the coach of Michigan's name?
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (40:38):
What is it? There? You go?
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Took over four Harbaugh.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
He took up for Harball in that last season as well, when.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
There were some uh, some suspensions for secionable things.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
So Dion Sanders makes people turn on college football and like,
look for better or for worse if you like or
don't like. I just didn't like some of the antics.
But they made Colorado probably the team that everybody watched
over the past two years. Cheering for, some cheering against
doesn't matter. So the fact that he beats cancer, we think, right,
(41:13):
this is doctor's like, hey, completely cured and with money
in the bank. And I'm sure had he said, hey,
I'm done here, Colorado would have compensated. Maybe not to
the full extent of his contract, but he's doing to
have made some money. Deon Sanders can do television, can
do podcast, can not work, And I'm sure he's okay.
Coming back to college football, despite the fact he had
(41:35):
his second health scare in just two years of being
at CU. When he doesn't have to coach his son,
doesn't get to coach his son, doesn't have to get
to coach the best player in the country. That's a
win for college football, to win for all of us.
That's a really good thing. I love it. Let's get
to what we hated for the weekend. Okay, there, damby
(42:01):
what you had from the weekend.
Speaker 7 (42:04):
This is gonna sound crazy because it's gonna start to
heat up. I'm surprised we didn't go to our resident hater.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah, you normally, but I just.
Speaker 7 (42:11):
That's okay, I know this is this is I'm just
gonna say it. It hasn't been as hot this summer
as I wish it has been in southern California. I
know the rest of the country is like, please, we
are sweltering here, but it has not been as warm
as it normally would and yesterday was a bit windy.
(42:31):
I'll tell you what, if you're able to go outside
and able to enjoy a nice dip in the water,
I don't like it when the wind blows and it's
it's cool, like I wanted to be sweltering hot at
least for just two weeks in the summertime, so then
you're automatically refreshed by cool water, you're not chilled by
(42:53):
a breeze. We're supposed to get warmer weather this week again.
I know, like the heat index by you, Doug was
like one hundred and because it was just humidity and
the whole deal. But that's what I didn't like about
the weekend. Another nice weekend, but didn't necessarily get that hot.
And when I swam, I got chilled by the wind.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
It has been in under the average summer temperatures here
in southern California, and.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yes, below average.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Below Yeah, you get what you go out. I'm saying
below average temperatures. The rest of the country has been hot, hot, hot,
but Dan just been.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
It's been it's been below average in a lot of
the Midwest. Now it's hot this week.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
That's not what I saw. It's been above average.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
And I say, friends of the my friends here in
Green Bay, it's been cooler and rainier, especially early summer.
You just said in Iowa it's been cooler and rainier.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Well, there's been some Yeah, there's been some hot heat.
There's been some heat waves going through.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Same thing in Oklahoma, so it has been cooler than usual,
and now it's supposed to be hotter than usual here
last month of summer.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Dan, just you wait, though, you know that by Labor
Day there's gonna be like one hundred and fifteen days.
Speaker 7 (43:59):
I know in the it's gonna be like the opening
of college football season, and it's gonna be like, man,
why is it this hot? My sister sent me just
a graphic, uh, dougas she probably lives about maybe about
hour and a half, like just southwest of Green Bay.
Heat index was one oh seven at her place on Saturday.
The ninety two degrees humanity was high. Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
It was hot.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
That's that's absolutely crazy. Okay, what about you are a
resident hater, jaseeuw.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Okay, Doug, thank you. I'll take it from here, you dog.
I'll take it from here. Thank you, Doug. I'll take
it from here. Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here, Doug,
I'll take it from here. Did you guys watch the
a's highlights from this weekend. I didn't know this, but
fourth generation broadcaster Chris Carey has a major League job.
(44:53):
He's the a's broadcaster. A no doubt her home run
was hit in the game, But if you listen to
the call, you got a different version. One two pitch,
high in the air, deep to right. That ball is foul.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Or gone.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
That ball was absolutely launched law dog posing him up
at the dish.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
He knew it off the bat. It was just a
matter of how far foul or gone by the way
the ball landed in right center. Ye, not even close
to the pole if you it was Lawrence Butler who
hit it. And I'm gonna I'll give Chris Carrie an
excuse here. He actually went on social media and he
(45:41):
had a very accountable apology. But he lost the ball
in the lights, and the right fielder didn't move. The
right fielder showed up the pitcher, he didn't even move.
Lawrence Butler did what all hitters do now and he
just pimped his home run. So the broadcaster had no
indication of where the ball was based on the fielders
(46:01):
or the hitter. But this is kind of a proxy hate.
I don't hate this as much as John Ramos hates it,
cause the one thing that John Ramos are our old
tech producer that we love dearly. He's a friend of ours.
He hated nepotism. He doesn't think Chris Carey should have
that job. And Chris Carey proved to John Ramos this
(46:23):
weekend that he shouldn't have that job. Chris Carey the
great grandson of Harry Carey. Holy cow, John Ramos hates you.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Wow, Samon, what do you hate from the weekend?
Speaker 4 (46:38):
All right?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
So Friday night, like many people, I sat down to
watch Happy Gilmore two. And I've only walked out of
one movie in the movie theater before in my life.
That was American Hustle. I don't know why it rankled
me so much, but with like ten minutes left in
that film, I just got got up and walked out.
Maybe I'd have to revisit the film. Maybe It's not
as bad as I thought. But I turned off Happy
(47:00):
Gilmore too with thirty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
I did end up finishing at Sunday night, and my
opinion didn't change. The movie didn't just somehow get better.
This was a labor to get through. This was a chore.
This was not a good movie. It didn't need to
be made. It was too long, it was just there.
It was bloated. This film was bloated, and it would
have been better off. It had been better served if
it wasn't made in the original Happy Gilmore could just
(47:24):
stand alone because this movie was honestly, it was boring.
When a comedy is boring, you've lost me, You've lost
the audience. I didn't really laugh at the movie. I
didn't think it was very funny. I wanted to like it.
I like Adam Sandler. I loved Happy Gilmore the original,
so I went went in with low expectations, which was
just what I was told to have, and my expectations
(47:45):
were not even met. I thought this film was just
like first half of it was two passes through the
buffet line, and the second half of the film just
got so ridiculous. It was like you're going back to
the pasta in breadsticks. Portion of the buffet it was
nothing but filler. I was really disappointed this. I feel
like Netflix just cuts checks and they put out a
lot of slop, and this was a slop. This was
(48:06):
a slop fest. So I hated that movie. I really,
I really hated it because I don't turn like what
I felt like it was a waste of my time.
To finish it. I did eventually finish it. But I
think if it's something you don't have to finish a
movie just because it's there, you can turn it off
and watch something else.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
You can read a book. So I turned it off.
I had had enough.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
I'll say something I hated, but it again, this is
more of a personal hatred, it's not universal. So I
spent the last four days in New England. My son's
gone to a camp in Friburg, Maine. It's called forest.
It's called Indian Acres. Sorry, forest Acres is the girls camp,
indian Acres. He loves it and he had a great,
great weekends like parents weekend, right, So you go up
(48:48):
there and visit.
Speaker 7 (48:48):
Well, I think I think it's called guardian Acres now, Doug, Yeah,
I think.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
When yeah, when I when I have something to make
her change it, when I, uh, will go for lunch,
like you know, New England lots of pubs and taverns,
lots of them, and so I do a little research
on which pub and tavern different kinds of food, you know,
like there's one that's got great lobster and lobster roles,
it's one that's got good barbecue. Whatever I had forgotten
(49:16):
that the Midwest and especially Northeastern bar at lunch is
very different than the West Coast bar at lunch. The
West Coast bar at lunch is for I want to
watch some sports, I want to get some food. I
may want to make a little eye contact quick conversation
with the bartender, but outside of that, it's a way
to kind of eat quickly and get stuff done and
(49:38):
get out. It's restaurant. L liked the New England bar
is you sit down and those people apparently have nothing
going on, nothing to do, and they simply want to
hear your life story and share with you yours, which is
very endearing. It's just I'm not Cliff Cleveland. This is
not cheers. I don't I like being where someone no
(50:02):
one knows my name. I want to be where somebody
no one knows my name, not where everybody knows my name.
It's like I'm sitting down there and I'm getting interviewed
before I go on a first date with a girl
or before I get a job. Like literally, every day
you sit down any where you from, what do you
think of the sucks? What are you thinking of uniforms?
What do you think of the Patriots. I like to hire.
(50:22):
What do you think, like just pepper, pepper Pepper, Like, hey, dude,
I just I really wanted a smash burger and a
and Arnold Palmer, and I want to eat it as
fast as I can and give the waiter a little
or bartender or bar yeah, bartender a little tip, and
I want to get out. So I just hate that
(50:42):
I can't just be isolated at the bar the way
I am on the West coast when you get to
the Midwest and especially Northeast, where the Northeast is not
friendly people unless you sit down to Bay at lunchtime
on a Thursday of Friday, especially at a Friday, when
lunch becomes happy hout, which becomes dinner, which becomes go
(51:04):
home and talk about the socks.
Speaker 3 (51:07):
Some do name Doug.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Some do name Doug, And that is love and hate
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