September 6, 2025 • 46 mins
On this edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show:Doug gives his take on how the Eagles barely got by the Cowboys in the NFL opener Thursday night.
Doug breaks down the verbal dispute between Dan Lanning and Mike Gundy.
Jason Stewart tells you what is is most annoyed by today. Columnist from The Athletic Ian O'Connor joins Doug to talk about his new book that he co-authored with national championship coach Dan Hurley.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Do Do Do Do Do Do. I'll be having a
great day. It's a football Friday, and we're here to
celebrate it with you. Crash off our first NFL game
of the season.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Do.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Dan Buyer's here, Jay Stew's here, Iowa Sam's here getting
ready for the cy Hawk Trophy to be handed out tomorrow.
In Ames, was that in Iowa? Where was that?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It might have been New Hampshire when he where wasn't Iowa? Right?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Iowa Caucus?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
That was an all the time right because he won
the Iowa Caucus.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
No.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
John Kerry came in, uh kind of like as an underdog,
and Howard Dean was like the front runner in the
in the press, and then Howard John Kerry ended up
winning it. So then Howard Dean was like, no, we're
gonna press on, and that's when he goes yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well first he said like, well, we're gonna got a
new Hams, right, whatever happened to him?
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Hey he's around.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
They're always around.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Yeah, they're always practicing medicine.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Still, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Was he a doctor? Yeah, must let's just start. I
was wrong. I'm not smart. I didn't know. The Cowboys
were actually looked yesterday like a really pretty good football team. Now.
Was it helped out by one of the most dynamic
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defensive linemen in the league getting thrown out before the game?
Really a sure? But I think we can all sit
there and go like, yeah. It was also helped out
in the fact that Ceedee Lamb suddenly forgot how to
catch a football for the Cowboys. There's a lot to
get to it last night's game. But I didn't think
it would be terribly competitive, and it was, and it
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had everything that was a fun game. It had everything.
It had just enough like Michael Jordan was there, some
of the some comedians were there, some actors. They had
just enough of the pomp and circumstance. It had a
weather delay, which I feel was more commonplace in college
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football this time of year. Usually the first couple of
weeks there's always a thunderstorm, lightning. Games are postponed or
or delayed or whatever. That happened last night. It had
an ejection, It had a big fumble or two, it
had it had a little bit of everything. But I
mean I was wrong. That was a winnable game by
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the Cowboys and a well played game by Dak Prescott.
Here's Nick Sirianni, head coach of the Eagles, defending Super
Bowl champions, on the errors his team made throughout the game.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
I want these guys to play with great energy, great
tenacity while doing it within the rules of the game.
So we'll address that. We talked about that obviously at
halftime because I felt like, you know, that's a really
good offense, and every one of their drives in that
first half that resulted in points were all penalties, you know,
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And now you know a p I, which that's that's different.
That's in the heat of the game. Those those are
going to happen. But you know, I know we had
one with Nolan and one with JC and that creates
short fields for for an offense.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
What do you do buyer. I mean to me with
the Jaalen Carter thing, I mean, he had a pre
existing reputation was one of the reasons he sort of
slipped a couple picks in the draft. He's crazy, crazy talented.
It does appear if you watch the video. Like I
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don't know if he was goaded into it. I mean,
if we're honest with ourselves, he shouldn't have been close
to the Cowboys huddle right like the ball was five
yards away. He was supposed to be on the other
side of the football, but he wasn't because he was
talking ish to the Cowboys before they get ready for
their first snap. Dak Prescott could have just done his
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deal and let one of his linemen take care of
it instead. Now he kind of walks over, does little
John Wayne walk spits on the ground, and then gets
spit in his chest. I don't know whether or not
it cleared the chest into that neck area, but I
do like the fact that we now know there was
a second spitter, Like Seinfeld, you know what I'm talking about,
back until left, back until left. But I don't know
(05:01):
what else you'd do, Like you pointed out, but he
missed a game because of it. So I kind of
think we're good. Like, if you have another issue, all right,
we're gonna have to sit you for another game or
have to the only thing that he lacked, and I'll
probably he'll probably get it here in the mail is
a fine, and he'll probably get it from the league.
But I don't know what you do with Jalen Carter
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when he was in fact suspended for a game for
hawking a quick little loogie on Dak Prescott's chest.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Well, I look at it differently. I mean, I think
he got kicked out of a game. I don't think
that the penalty is. It's different if the Eagles are like,
you know what, you did this in practice, You're not
gonna play on Sunday or you're not gonna play on
Thursday night. It's completely different than this. Which, by the way,
I thought that completely took the juice and any of
the wind out of the Eagles sales for what could
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have been an exciting first quarter or ramped up first
quarter because of you defending your Super Bowl crown in
the open on Thursday night. I think it took everything
away from Philadelphia. And I do think that it could
be a sign of things to come because of what
you laid out with Jalen Carter. There was a reason
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he fell in the draft and the great play that
he's had. Doug has made Howie Roseman look like a
genius up until this point. But now you have a
Super Bowl ring, and if it's not Jalen Carter, are
other players also falling victim to this sort of thing
of Hey, maybe we don't have to maybe now it's
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more about me since we got that ring. I tweet
the last night I took five seconds for us to
hate the Eagles again, Like that was really quick.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I saw. I saw that tweet. And my problem was,
I was at a I was at a gathering and
I'm like, saw your tweet and I look up and
I'm like, I don't even know what he's talking about.
And then people are like elbowing and needling, and I
go look up, like when did that happen? Like before
the first snap? What? Yeah? That was? That was a
weird one.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So it just tells me like there was nothing that
Nick Sirianni or Vic Fangio or Howie Roseman or Jeffrey
Lourie or anybody did to have Jalen Carter say grow
up in the offseason from the Super Bowl. Him getting
kicked out isn't the one game penalty and move on.
I think it's more of it could be representative of
maybe what this is all about with the Philadelphia Eagles.
(07:22):
I think that there are pitfalls like this, After you win,
does everybody want to get fat and get their own
We shall see seventeen more weeks to play sixteen more games.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
That was as classic an Eagles win early in the
season as you're gonna find. Was it two years ago?
They were like ten and one to start the season,
and we're like, and it seemed like every game was
an escape? Yeah, you know, and then yeah, that's what
that felt like. Cowboys felt like the better team last night.
If he didn't know that that the Eagles won the
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Super Bowl, if he didn't know they had Saquon, if
he didn't know that the Giants had trade away their
best defensive player, you'd be like, well, I just watching
these two teams, the one with the star in their
helmet's probably better. They just made some mistakes and weren't
able to capitalize as much. But that's how the Eagles win.
And I think the one thing you do caution yourself
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against and this sounds like the opposite of coach speak.
Am I do I like to implore more discipline on
my team? Sure? Sure, but you do in football you
do have to have that edge. Right, It's like they
want you to block not just to the whistle, but
to the end of the whistle, right before they let
off the whistle. Right, there's just that little there's a
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level of aggression, there's a level of energy. There's that
magical level, if you will, that you're trying to get to.
And you don't want to take it away from Jalen Carter,
but this, as you point out, that tracks like anything
you've read about Jalen Carter leading up into the NFL
and some once he's been in the NFL. Is why
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he is again, why Howie Roseman took a ris that
others weren't willing to take. Here's Brian Schottenheimer after coaching
his first game as a head coach with the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
I don't worry about see lamb. See He's gonna be fine.
What a great player. Again, you know, this was a
this was a team defeat, and we own that. You know,
we understand where we can go as a football team.
We understand. I love the competition. I thought guys competed
their butts off. I thought that was great. But we're
all about winning, and we didn't win tonight, and so
therefore it's not good enough.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Here's the other thing we probably missed on Brian Schottenheimer. Now,
the first thing is Dak Prescott looked really good and
really mobile. And I would also point out that again
we've we've never held Dak in the regards of the
elite quarterbacks, and I think rightfully so, because he's never
performed well enough in the playoffs to earn that distinction.
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But Jerry is not an idiot. He did put a
bunch of money in him, and after last night, like
you know what, the old man still may know a
thing or two about a football player. But the thing
that the Cowboys made sure they did with their head
coach is have continuity. The reason they held on to
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Schottenheimer was Dak really liked him. They worked together well.
He felt like his offense, his style, his play calling.
That works for him. So while we're concern ourselves with Pickens,
who still has He's talented but still got a lot
of turn in him. He doesn't block things, he doesn't
murders routes, all out of stack in the ball. But
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while we're so concerned with their wide receiving core, their
offensive line, their ability to run the football, or whatever,
what I thought last night was it was a win
for continuity. Now that will start to even out the
later we get into the season, because the Eagles have
a new offensive cordon or a new play caller, so
it's always going to be a little bit new, a
little bit different, and take a little bit of an
adjustment period. And they didn't play in the preseason. But
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last night was a little bit of a win. Was
a win for the Cowboys even though they lost, because
we all thought they were gonna get blown out and
they didn't, and they looked like the better team. They
just didn't make a couple of plays here or there
that should have solidified them as the better team, or
at least make the Eagles play a little bit better,
make the Eagles throw the ball down the field, something
they didn't have to do last night or couldn't do.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
This is the best of the Doug dot Leaf Show
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
This is a portion of the daily podcast. But I
want to break out on radio because it's always so good.
Our resident curmudgeon is as our producer. His name's Jason Stewart.
Without further ado, we find out who and what's annoying him.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
Today, and now it's your annoying.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Hey, Doug. Charles Barkley was on with Bill Simmons a
Ringer podcast, and they had this exchange about the NBA.
Speaker 9 (11:55):
I think the NBA has got a big problem. How
a regular fan kind of like, Okay, it's Tuesday, FEI
when they start putting games, where do I go, well, well,
like cause you know sometimes the game is gonna be
on Peacock and like it's not gonna be on NBC.
I think that's a huge dilemma. I think it's a
big deal because they get they just took all the
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money from all three networks. I don't think they give
it about the fans, and I think this is going
to come back to bite them, to be honest with you,
And then the thing that's scared This deal is for
eleven years, so now people can plan all they want
to for the next eleven years. They don't give it
about the fans. They're like, y'all if y'all find the
games fine, just make sure to check clears.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
What do I find annoying about this is this so
Barkley has him saying that the NBA doesn't give a
crop about the fans. I think carries weight, and I
don't think he's really I think he's he's right about
one thing and then and then he's off. I think
the NBA every single decision they have made, from either
a TV right standpoint or you know, the end season
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playoff standpoint, or the extension like playing game, it always
serves their like p ones. In other words, it always
serves their die hard NBA fans. So I think what
Charles is saying is that I don't think the NBA
gives a crap about the casuals. I'm certainly not going
to go to all the apps to find their product.
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I think their die hard fans will. But where Charles
is right is that the NBA has kind of lost sight.
They're running their league like it's some kind of a
niche league like the NHL or the WNBA, where they
have to cater to their diehard fans to keep them
as opposed to opening the tent to everybody else.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I look at it a little differently. I do. There
is a certain old man get off my lawn to
Barkley saying all these streaming services. It's like, that's actually
how young fans watch sports, right, And the old model
of cable or even network TV is a dying model,
(14:11):
so it is so much based upon perception. The other
part too, it is it will still have network games,
network television. ABC is still a part of it, right,
so it'll still be there. These are all games that
you previously got on cable or couldn't get unless you
had your local cable package, and now you can get
with a streaming service. So I love Charles and I
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I don't know. You could say he doesn't care about
the fans, but now you have no matter what service
you have, or if you don't have any service, you
can have access to games. So if we're go back,
when Charles played, you only saw the games that were
on your local channel or when they were on weekends
on ABC. Right now you can watch like every game played.
(14:58):
So I actually disagree with him.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
The Roger Goodell and the NFL are pretty brilliant for
bringing in all of Taylor Swift fans. So they brought
in a ton of casuals over the last eighteen years
or eighteen months. This is what Roger Goodell said in
an interview today about Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Is Taylor Swift invited to play the Super Bowl this
year the halftime show?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
We would always love to have Taylor play. She is
a special, special talent and obviously.
Speaker 9 (15:29):
She would be welcome in anytime.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Is it in the works?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I can't tell you anything about it.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Is it a maybe?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's a maybe?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Okay, okay, well, maybe it's a maybe.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
At what point can we expect a decision to be announced.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I'm waiting on my friend jay Z to be able to.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
It's in his hands.
Speaker 9 (15:47):
I'm waiting for the smoke to come out.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Okay, okay, good But you're a Swift tea team, definitely Swift.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
That was on the Today Show. Goodell, Smart, you go
to Today's show, you talk about Taylor Swift, you bring
people into the tent. Get it. What's annoying is that
I don't need to see Taylor Swift perform songs at
the halftime. I've said this and Dan Bayer called me
out on it. This piss is Dan off. But I
think Taylor Swift songs are made for teenage girls, So me,
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as a fifty two year old man, I don't need
to sit through ten to fifteen minutes of Taylor Swift songs.
I'm annoyed by that, and Dan will be quick to
tell me they're made for people of all ages. I
think they're made for teenage girls. I'm not the audience,
So I'm annoyed by the prospect of Taylor Swift doing
the halftime.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Well, I have the opposite opinion, not because I don't
agree with you, But isn't that the whole thing with
halftime show? It's you have to have a reason for
people who are not the p ones to pay attention
and watch the first half. It's like, even better, like
why would a teenage girl watch the Super Bowl? She wouldn't.
Now it's grown into now where you have you know,
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pre professionals and professional women and but yay' that's the
target demo for halftime because not the target demo for
the Super Bowl? What else? Who else annoying you?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Framber Valdez is a very good pitcher for the Astros.
I think he's been up for like Cy Young recently
in recent years. Left hander, he gave up a Grand
Slam last night to Trent Grisham, who has a lot
of holes in his bat and Framber Valdez got so
pissed off at his catcher, Seesar Sanchez. I guess Sanchez
(17:30):
either called the wrong pitch or asked Framber to step
off the rubber. Whatever it is, you can find it
on John Boy right now if you look. There's a
breakdown of it. So this is how Framber Valdez chose
to handle his catcher. The next batter, his catcher called
for a curveball, was expecting a curveball, and Framber Valdez
threw it right down the middle into the wrist of
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his catcher to cross him up, a ninety six mile
hour fastball to the wrist to cross up your and
to I guess punish him for how he called a
picture earlier. They spoke and say that they're good, and
the Framber apologized. Somebody's line and I think it's Framber Valdez.
(18:13):
I think that was a bush league move by an
awful player on a cheating team.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Don't how you really feel? Ah? That was awesome? That
was awesome?
Speaker 10 (18:25):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Can I can I throw in one? And and Dan
byro if you have one. That's something that's annoying you.
I have one. I have And again I'm giving credit
to you, Jase Tuo for going you need to watch
the Cowboys documentary. The the Michael Irvin aspect of it
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is so good because, as you pointed out Jay s
dou he's one of like two people who would talk
about the White House, and no one else talked about it.
It's like, hey, you know, it's a documentary. You don't
have to tell him anything if you don't want to
tell him anything. It's basically a Jerry Jones promo piece.
But it was It was kind of It's annoying to
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me that they let Michael Irvin get away with basically saying, hey,
from the end of the season until April, he could
party and do whatever he wanted. That's when he got
caught with cocaine. When there was no follow up to like, well,
did you do cocaine in the season? Were you a
drug addict? Like what was because there's all these conflicting Hey,
(19:32):
I only did it in it in the spring. Yet
you went to the White to the White House, which
was a residential house where they had all these orgies
and drugs or whatever again, it's all assumed in there.
But you have a guy, you have guys sitting chairs.
And the other one that they didn't do in the
documentary was there's no discussion about Skip Bayless telling people
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that Troy Aikman was gay, right, Like, you're gonna have
racist allegations in the but you're not gonna have and
Skip was in the dock. Troy Aikman's in the dock.
It was a gigantic story. It's still kind of a story.
It laid the groundwork for why Troy Aikman does not
like Skip Bayless wasn't discussed. It's any why you got
(20:17):
anything annoying.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
You just how once you've complimented Jay Stu or complimented
Jay Stue this show. It's been like nineteen times you've said,
what a great job Jay Stu is just I mean, Sam, like,
can you agree like it's been over the top, Okay,
don't it's been disproportionate? Yeah, yes, I agree, that's a
that's a good way to.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Put disproportionate ass kicking of our producer, Doug Gottliebiz. All right,
it's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
The Great e O'Connor joins us. He's a calmnist for
the Athletic but he co authored a book with you
Got a Head Coach Danny Hurley called Never Stop Life,
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Leadership and What it Takes to Be Great. It's available
later this month. You can preorder it now. Ian, thanks
so much for joining us. Their Hurly name is synonymous
with basketball, and Danny was, you know, as players. He
was the other brother. And now he's won you know,
two national championships as a head coach and doing it
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in his own kind of unique way. What was the
impetus of the idea of writing a book with him?
When did this actually start?
Speaker 10 (21:25):
Yeah, I've known Danny and now known as Dan. He
wants it that way, but some people refuse to call
him Dan. They still call him Danny. And we all
from my generation. I'm sixty one and I knew Danny
when he was six years old, and so I've been
around his father and that family for a long time
and remember seeing Bob Hurley Senior coaching at Saint Anthony's
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in Jersey City back in the day when Bobby and
Danny were really young, and almost being terrified of him.
When I was in eighth grade watching him coach, the
intensity was off the charts. Well, you see the same
intensity in Dan today at Yukon, and that was the
rocket fuel behind their two national championships. And so what
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we saw this year Doug, as you know, is a
lot of criticism for his approach on the sideline. But
before we got to that point, after he won that
second national title, I called him and I said, Dan,
you should write a book. This is your time. You
came off back to back national championships, which is incredibly
hard to do. You have a great backstory with your family,
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and I assumed he had a writer already in mind,
somebody maybe in Connecticut who had covered him. And I
was under contract to do finished another two books, so
I was fine. I just said, you don't need to
do this with me, but you should do a book
with somebody. And I meant that and he said, no,
if I'm going to do it, i'd want to do
it with you. And then we talked about the what's
(22:55):
the vision for the book? And one thing led to another,
and here we are today, where a few weeks away
from the official launch of the book, which is now
available on Amazon, of course in other places, but yeah,
it was me calling him saying, Dan, you need to
do a book with Somebody doesn't have to be me,
and he decided that I was the right person to
do it with.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
How is he in real life as compared to the
in front of the camera life.
Speaker 10 (23:24):
I think that Dan is a sensitive guy, and I
do think that things like the criticism he faced last
season did really bother him. But Dan is a very
loving and loyal person. And I think the one thing
that readers would be surprised at not you, because you're
a Division one coach and you've been around the game forever.
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But Dan does not yell at his individual players during
a game. Now, in a timeout, he might yell at
the group, and certainly in practice it can be a
full contact experience, but during games when he going nuts
on the rest and occasionally even getting into it with
the opposing head coach or his assistance, he does not
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scream individually at the players because he understood what that
felt like when he was a college player at Seaton
Hall and it didn't make him feel good. So he's
more of a corner man during games, a supporter as
someone who encourages you, gives you confidence and I think
that's been missed in the coverage of him nationally and
the way he's perceived. And to be honest with you,
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I wasn't necessarily aware of that either when I started
the process, but I think that and that is what's
most important to me when it comes to college athletics,
is how the adults treat the young men or women
who are on their teams, on their rosters. And I
think Dan, if you talk to his players, they don't
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want to play for anybody else. They swear by him
to a kid, to a player, and that's something that
I wanted to bring out in this book and I
hopefully we did.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Stuck out Liab show here on Fox Sports Radio Ian
O'Connor as our guests. The new book is called Never
Stop Life, Leadership and What it Takes to Be Great.
He co authored it with two time National championship head
coach Danny Hurley or Dan Hurley.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
What I.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
There's There are so many different aspects to his life
and his path to this to success which are interesting,
but some of it has been told through TV. When
you know you make Final four's people they try and
do these personal interest stories and tell things. What's one
that's in the book that people don't.
Speaker 10 (25:38):
Know well the depth of his depression that he suffered
as a student at s Eaton Hall. He gets to
some pretty dark places. I'm not sure the average fan
is necessarily fully aware of that, and I think in
the book bringing out his humanity was important to me.
And there was a next Serve today on the athletics
(26:02):
website about Dan really struggling after this past season, really
human thoughts about should I resign three decades straight of
high intensity coaching without a break, without a single break,
and after a very challenging and difficult season against measured
against their standard of winning national championships, and the criticism
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he took left him very vulnerable and thinking about walking away.
Do I need to resign as the head coach of
the Yukon Huskies. And he was very candid with me
about that human struggle he felt, and the price you
pay to compete at the highest levels of college sports today,
and also the changing nature of the game where now
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recruiting is all about how much can you pay a kid?
And that's not the way he was raised in the business.
Recruiting is about relationships, or at least they used to be.
And also having a great program that would attract people,
and really, now down and how much are you going
to pay me? And I know I never thought it
would get to that point in college sports. I'm sixty
one years old, and if you told me that forty
(27:09):
years ago this would be the case, I never would
have believed it. And I think he's a similar mindset.
But all that sort of put together in a cauldron
of bubbling emotion led left him in a place where
he thought about walking away. Now. He didn't leave yukon
the previous summer, despite being offered seventy million dollars to
coach the most glamorous franchise in the NBA, the Lakers,
(27:32):
And this time he didn't walk away either. I guess
the author of never Stop should not stop, and he didn't.
But I think that that will surprise the reader is
just how emotionally cooked he was at the end of
last season, how he was sitting there just wondering if
he should even continue as a college coach. He ultimately
decided to come back, and they have a really good roster,
(27:54):
a better roster than they had last year. But I
think that'll be surprising the most.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Readers and did I read write that he nearly left
just to be an analyst at Fox Sports.
Speaker 10 (28:05):
He had some conversations with He told me a TV
executive Andrew marsh and reported today it was Fox. Now
it makes sense his former agent, Jordan Design is a
Fox executive. So yeah, I think that that was something
he thought he could do for one year, basically, take
a gap year, do some TV and then recharge and
(28:28):
come back. Now he'd have to come back somewhere else
in college basketball or the NBA. I do think, and
this is really more my opinion, I think he will
coach in the NBA before he retires. I do think
that he wants to scratch that itch, if you will
take that shot, at some point. I think he wants
to win another national championship or two at Yukon. So
(28:48):
I think he'll be at Yukon for a number of
years before he possibly makes that move. And again, this
is really more my opinion. But if you told me
he was head co to the New York Knicks seven
years from now, I would not be surprised.
Speaker 9 (29:05):
That.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Being said, there are very few coaches who are as animated,
maybe any that as animated as he is in the pros.
What do you think of the adjustment he'll have to
make to coach in the NBA in terms of his approach.
Speaker 10 (29:23):
It's a great question, Doug, and he does believe like
his father. Now. I was surprised when he told me
this that his father, as he got older, mellowed out
a little bit and got a little kinder and gentler
and maybe a little more user friendly or player friendly.
I was surprised that he made that observation, and he
suspects the same thing will happen to him now. It's
(29:45):
hard to believe looking at Dan Hurley today that you
could see him calming down, for lack of a better expression,
as he gets into his mid to late fifties, But
he believes that will happen and make him then more
compatible with what the NBA is. We all know it's
a players league, and so listen. He fiercely considered the Lakers,
(30:06):
and he did believe he could coach Lebron James. And
I said to him later, you know, if you knew
Luca was going to be traded there, would you have
taken that job? And he said, no, I would have
made the same decision because I'm not really ready to
coach in the NBA yet, and I think I do
need to change a little bit, and along the lines
of what he said, his father went through that change.
(30:27):
So I again the way I look at it, the
way I look at his career after spending a lot
of time with him last season, I do believe that
he will take on that challenge as the last challenge
of a great career. To me, he's already a Hall
of Famer as a college coach, but to take that
last step and prove he can do it at the
(30:49):
highest level, I do think that's something that intrigues him
down the road in something that he ultimately will do.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
What's the dynamics of the family, Like, you know, Bobby
was always the star growing up. Now Bobby has had
a successful but kind of up and down coaching career,
whereas Danny we mentioned before how he was used as
a player, the slow and steady climb and now the
champion coach. Of course, the dad is the legend. What's
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the dynamics of that family like now?
Speaker 10 (31:20):
Yeah, I think everyone is. Everyone gets along and supports
each other. And obviously their father's now retired, but he's
arguably the greatest high school boys basketball coach ever in
this country, and Morgan Wooton would be in that conversation
as well. I think that it's interesting, right the dynamic
has flipped where Danny was the other player and now
(31:43):
Bobby is sort of the other coach. But Bobby has
a very, very challenging job, and he has done a
good job at at Arizona State, but that is a
tough job the conference they're in now, and it's not
really a basketball school. I actually lived on that campus
right next to the arena back nineteen eighty six eighty
seven out of college, and so I know a little
(32:04):
bit about Arizona State and its history, and it's just
not a basketball school. So I do think Bobby has
done a good job there and will continue to do so.
But Dan, you know, he's showing up at Yukon. That's
not easy either because the standard there was national championships.
Jim Calhoun won three, Kevin Ollie won one, and it's
amazing that story on the women's side and the men's side,
(32:26):
what a school in stores Connecticut has done in college
basketball women's and men's divisions is unbelievable, And when you
look at where it's located, so Dan, when he arrived
at Yukon, he had to win national championships and he's
done that. He's done an incredible job measuring up to
that expectation. And I do think he'll win another one
(32:46):
or two certainly before he ever leaves that school, and
it might be this year. The motto last year was dynasty.
You could have that same motto this year if they win.
If they win three out of four, that's certainly a dynasty.
Last year a disappointment, but hey, he almost beat the
ultimate national champion in Florida in the second round the
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NCAA tournament. That to me, was a testament to Dan's
coaching ability with that roster. I thought Dan the coach
really outperformed that Dan the GM last year and actually
did a very good job with what he had to
work with. And he almost picked off Florida in the
second round, and that shouldn't be forgotten.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
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(33:47):
Let's talk in soon. Thanks for being our.
Speaker 10 (33:49):
Guest, Hey, Doug, thanks so much, and best of luck
in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
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I'm a proud of them. Voklahoma State. They beat Tennessee
Martin on Thursday, and they'll play Oregon on Saturday in Eugene.
(34:33):
Part of the home and home series. Oregon comes to
Stilly next year. All of our fans in Eugene. Yeah,
next year, I'll head down there. We'll have a have
a good time early in the season. Be able to
do the show probably the night before from there. But
there was a curious back and forth, and I'll give
you the blow by blow with a couple of little
(34:53):
cuts on it. It's really interesting here right that we
are paying players at all levels of college athletics. Some
are there, there are, there are some college basketball programs
who do not very few college football. I don't think
there are any that aren't paying any players. You do
(35:15):
make the decision on paying everybody, which I think most
people do in football, it's hit or missing basketball. Do
you you know, do tears or do you just each
individual guy would negotiate with him. Lots of decisions to
be made from that perspective, But I think, just me,
(35:36):
I think that you're pretty well aware players are being paid.
So keep that in mind. And there's still this weird
feeling that a lot of people have, like are we
supposed to be doing this? We're not supposed to be
doing this. And some of the reaction is in the
(35:57):
idea that it diminishes the coach if you have a
bigger pot of money. Right, So we'll get to it
a second. Here's my gundhy head, coach of Oklahoma State,
getting ready for the Oregon game.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I guess that the last three years that we spent
around seven million over the three years, and I think
Oregon spent close to forty last year alone. Wow, so
that was just one year. Okay, Now I might be
off a few million, but they're spending a lot of money.
(36:36):
They spent a lot of money, you know, and there's
some schools that are doing that.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
If you listen to the entirety of the cut. He
wasn't negative about organ He was saying they have amazing resources.
I do think the figure of forty is quite high.
I think it's you know, again, that's factoring and a
bunch of stuff that aren't what they're really factoring in.
My guess is it starts with a two, But I
don't know. Here's Dan Lanning, highly successful Oregon HEEAD coach,
(37:08):
former Georgia assistant. Here's Lanning.
Speaker 11 (37:11):
I got a ton of respect for coach Gundy. You know, ultimately,
how blessed are we to be in a place that's
invested in winning. If you want to be a top
ten team in college football, you better be invested in winning,
and we spend to win. Some people say to have
an excuse for why they don't right, And ultimately he's.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
A great coach.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
They've done an unbelievable job.
Speaker 11 (37:26):
But I want to be a team that's competing at
the highest level, and we're really fortunate to be in
that situation. So I can't speak on their situation. I
have no idea. You know, what's what they got in
their pockets over there? I'm sure U T. Martin maybe
didn't have as much as them last week.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, that's where he goes to a whole bote. Hey
you played you T Martin last week? Huh. They didn't
have nearly the budget you had. Didn't hear you complaining
about is Gundy complaining? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Is he?
Speaker 6 (37:57):
Is?
Speaker 1 (37:57):
He honest? Yeah? Like, look, I was critical of Mike
last year when you know his star running back got
a dui and he's like, ain't anything I haven't done
a hundred times again, I wouldn't have said it, nor
would I have done it. I mean I Saturday night
this weekend, I went over to a buddy's house. They're
all having old fashions, was consonantble fashions. I was like,
(38:19):
I just can't have one. They're like, why it was?
I can't get a dui? Like one drink? Like what's
what's the point of one drink? Like I'd like to
have a couple of drinks. And I'm just not going
to do it. I'm not gonna put myself in that situation.
I want. I'm not gonna possibly get a dui. But
the point is that even though I greatly disagree with them,
no one has ever accused my Gundhi of pulling punches
(38:40):
and being dishonest. I think what he wanted to get
out there was we had no money the past couple
of years. This is the first year we're spending money
and we're trying to figure it out, and there's gonna
be hits, there's gonna be missus but Landing taking a
swipe late, and man, I don't think U. T. Barton
had that much money. The other part, which is kind
of patently unfair, which is, hey, i'd rather you know,
(39:01):
if you want to spend to win, that sounds great.
Some programs don't have that. If Boone Pickens were still alive,
they probably would maybe maybe not, you know, Oklahoma State,
it just does not have the depth of that level
of donors that are that committed, and it makes it
(39:22):
really hard. Plus they're trying to be good at every
sport softball, basketball, football, soccer, wrestling, they're really good at,
you know, questioning. My daughters said, like they have little
money because they're trying to be good at so many
different sports, But I thought it was interesting, like that's
what coaches talk about all the time. I told you,
(39:43):
guys this last week. We were playing Ohio State last year.
It was like an eight point game, and I switched
up a ball stream coverage and then all of a sudden,
we're down like fifteen. I just started emptying the bench
and playing guys. It was the one by game that
got bad and I was in. I was just devastating
the locker, mad at myself. Why'd I switch the ball
screen coverage. I just tried to spark us. Well, just
(40:05):
I'm in my own sorrow. One of my coaches grabbed
and he said, what was our budget this year? Said
at one hundred? He said, yeah, there was a three million,
maybe three and a half. That thing was over before
the jump ball, right, So you can use an excuse
(40:30):
or an explanation or a motivation for your fans, your
bone donors. If you want to be like Organ, you
gotta spend like Organ. Landing took it as a slam
at him a little bit. That's why he pushed back.
And I think it's because Lanning operates on the premise
that I agree with this, that does it take great personnel.
(40:52):
Yes does. It takes spending short, but it also takes
quality coaching, because the more you pay kids, the harder
it is to get them to do the little things.
We do this every Monday. I don't see why we
shouldn't do it. Now. Let's do a little love and hate?
Shall we love and hate? Oh? It's Tuesday? Did you
guys do it yesterday? Did you guys do it love
(41:13):
it hate yesterday? Dad Buyer?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yes we did, Yes, we did.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
What'd you love from the weekend?
Speaker 2 (41:18):
I loved Ohio State's victory on Saturday against Texas. That
was great. Again, not overblown, but it was just great
to have college football back and the team won a
big game.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, Sam, would you love on the weekend?
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Well?
Speaker 5 (41:37):
I was supposed to go camping and I did not.
I'm kind of glad that I didn't. It fell through
and I gorged, gorged on college football.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
That's what I loved.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
I mean, I was watching from Thursday night up until
last night. It was a wonderful, wonderful Labor Day weekend.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
What about you there, Jase two.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
I'm a college football casual. I don't necessarily root for
a team, but I root for store wines, as you know,
and going into the year, I'm rooting against two individuals,
Arch Manning and Deon Sanders. Both of them crap the
bed over the weekend, and I enjoyed that. I love that.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I did think that Deon Sanders, like they not calling
a time out there when there's two blatantly obvious moments
where they could have called the time out and they didn't.
On the last drive. I wasn't cheering them to lose.
I did want to see what it looked like without
his son, and they lost. What I loved from the weekend,
I mean, I just loved that I didn't actually have
to move Saturday. I moved very little. I moved very low.
(42:39):
I was not rewarded. Like the Texas Texas Ohuse Tate
game was not a great game. Nobody will tell you otherwise.
Like it just wasn't. Wasn't that cleanly played, teams weren't ready,
wasn't None of the games were great, But it was
just good to have something on TV that we could
all argue about on Monday. Rights just really good. What'd
you hate from the weekend, Dan Byer, what was your
(43:00):
hate that you listed?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I think my hate was my luggage got delayed because
my plane got delayed and traveling on Saturday, so there
was a bunch of stuff, And so then you have
to make the decision do you wait because I was
fortunate enough to have another flight where my luggage was
coming in that same night, or do you wait till
the next day? I did not like that very much.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Okay, Chase dou what'd you hate in the weekend?
Speaker 3 (43:29):
I hated watching my baseball team, the Dodgers, regress to
what they were before sweeping the Podreys. They're still doing
with the same issues. In a weekend against the Podreys
at home, they seemingly had fixed all of their problems,
addressed all their bugaboos, and then in the games prior
(43:51):
or games after that, they have gone back to what
they were prior to that. So we need to fix
some stuff up here. In the last three weeks of
the season.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Three weeks left, ug Sam, what'd you hate? For the weekend?
Speaker 5 (44:04):
I think I need a new TV or I at
least need to do a factory reset of my TV
because the YouTube TV multiview, which that really should be
my hate, you still can't customize it exactly the way
you want it and that bothers me. They should have
this figured out, should pick exactly the games you want.
That's not my hate though. That's been a long standing
right for me, the multiview thing. But my TV couldn't
(44:25):
even handle multiview. It kept crashing, so I couldn't watch
four games on one screen. It kept just like turning
off or going back to the main menu. So, oh,
I have no I know, I might need a new TV.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Those are always fun purchases though, right, you can the
upgrade to a little bit bigger one. Yeah, I need
a better picture.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
Sure, this is an old Roku TV and.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
It's small, and they're not that I mean. And if
you can go to like Target and get one's expensive, Yeah,
TV's are crazy.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Imagine that two thousand and five, so just twenty years ago,
if you were if you were to say, one day,
I'm going to complain that these four HD images will
not be able to look great on my TV in
uh from the internet.
Speaker 5 (45:16):
Yeah, now you put in proper perspective there, I would say.
I will say that we've had the picture in picture
for a long time now. It's been a technology, it's
been around.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah, but it went away, it went away a while.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
It went away, Yeah, went away for a while because
it was garbage. So that's not even a great example
to use.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Wow, clean that up, and yeah, deleting the podcast. My
my hate is the nonsensical decisions and nonsensical takes that
come from one college football game where people aren't really invested.
You know. It's the same thing we get with bowl
games or with NCAA tournament games, like but especially now,
like they've literally had fifteen practices. They're still their kids,
(45:55):
so they're not like whatever your memory is of great
college quarterbacks, go and watch him play first week of
the season, in their first start. And yeah, I'm talking
a little bit about Arch Spanning. I thought some of
his fundamentals did break down. I thought he did get
sped up. But I was actually at Peyton Manning's first
collegiate game. They played UCLA. He was a backup. He
(46:17):
came in off the bench and he was good. But like,
let's not act like you said, the world of fire
and they're playing against a really good Ohio State team.
So but my bigger one is again like the let's
fire Kalin de boor like he's been there for fourteen games,
what are we doing, you know, I mean just the
(46:38):
craziness of one game that you're not really invested in,
not really invested in
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
Do.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Dan Buyer's here, Jay Stew's here, Iowa Sam's here getting
ready for the cy Hawk Trophy to be handed out tomorrow.
In Ames, was that in Iowa? Where was that?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It might have been New Hampshire when he where wasn't Iowa? Right?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Iowa Caucus?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
That was an all the time right because he won
the Iowa Caucus.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
No.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
John Kerry came in, uh kind of like as an underdog,
and Howard Dean was like the front runner in the
in the press, and then Howard John Kerry ended up
winning it. So then Howard Dean was like, no, we're
gonna press on, and that's when he goes yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well first he said like, well, we're gonna got a
new Hams, right, whatever happened to him?
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Hey he's around.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
They're always around.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Yeah, they're always practicing medicine.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Still, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Was he a doctor? Yeah, must let's just start. I
was wrong. I'm not smart. I didn't know. The Cowboys
were actually looked yesterday like a really pretty good football team. Now.
Was it helped out by one of the most dynamic
(01:57):
defensive linemen in the league getting thrown out before the game?
Really a sure? But I think we can all sit
there and go like, yeah. It was also helped out
in the fact that Ceedee Lamb suddenly forgot how to
catch a football for the Cowboys. There's a lot to
get to it last night's game. But I didn't think
it would be terribly competitive, and it was, and it
(02:18):
had everything that was a fun game. It had everything.
It had just enough like Michael Jordan was there, some
of the some comedians were there, some actors. They had
just enough of the pomp and circumstance. It had a
weather delay, which I feel was more commonplace in college
(02:39):
football this time of year. Usually the first couple of
weeks there's always a thunderstorm, lightning. Games are postponed or
or delayed or whatever. That happened last night. It had
an ejection, It had a big fumble or two, it
had it had a little bit of everything. But I
mean I was wrong. That was a winnable game by
(03:03):
the Cowboys and a well played game by Dak Prescott.
Here's Nick Sirianni, head coach of the Eagles, defending Super
Bowl champions, on the errors his team made throughout the game.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
I want these guys to play with great energy, great
tenacity while doing it within the rules of the game.
So we'll address that. We talked about that obviously at
halftime because I felt like, you know, that's a really
good offense, and every one of their drives in that
first half that resulted in points were all penalties, you know,
(03:36):
And now you know a p I, which that's that's different.
That's in the heat of the game. Those those are
going to happen. But you know, I know we had
one with Nolan and one with JC and that creates
short fields for for an offense.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
What do you do buyer. I mean to me with
the Jaalen Carter thing, I mean, he had a pre
existing reputation was one of the reasons he sort of
slipped a couple picks in the draft. He's crazy, crazy talented.
It does appear if you watch the video. Like I
(04:15):
don't know if he was goaded into it. I mean,
if we're honest with ourselves, he shouldn't have been close
to the Cowboys huddle right like the ball was five
yards away. He was supposed to be on the other
side of the football, but he wasn't because he was
talking ish to the Cowboys before they get ready for
their first snap. Dak Prescott could have just done his
(04:35):
deal and let one of his linemen take care of
it instead. Now he kind of walks over, does little
John Wayne walk spits on the ground, and then gets
spit in his chest. I don't know whether or not
it cleared the chest into that neck area, but I
do like the fact that we now know there was
a second spitter, Like Seinfeld, you know what I'm talking about,
back until left, back until left. But I don't know
(05:01):
what else you'd do, Like you pointed out, but he
missed a game because of it. So I kind of
think we're good. Like, if you have another issue, all right,
we're gonna have to sit you for another game or
have to the only thing that he lacked, and I'll
probably he'll probably get it here in the mail is
a fine, and he'll probably get it from the league.
But I don't know what you do with Jalen Carter
(05:21):
when he was in fact suspended for a game for
hawking a quick little loogie on Dak Prescott's chest.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Well, I look at it differently. I mean, I think
he got kicked out of a game. I don't think
that the penalty is. It's different if the Eagles are like,
you know what, you did this in practice, You're not
gonna play on Sunday or you're not gonna play on
Thursday night. It's completely different than this. Which, by the way,
I thought that completely took the juice and any of
the wind out of the Eagles sales for what could
(05:51):
have been an exciting first quarter or ramped up first
quarter because of you defending your Super Bowl crown in
the open on Thursday night. I think it took everything
away from Philadelphia. And I do think that it could
be a sign of things to come because of what
you laid out with Jalen Carter. There was a reason
(06:11):
he fell in the draft and the great play that
he's had. Doug has made Howie Roseman look like a
genius up until this point. But now you have a
Super Bowl ring, and if it's not Jalen Carter, are
other players also falling victim to this sort of thing
of Hey, maybe we don't have to maybe now it's
(06:32):
more about me since we got that ring. I tweet
the last night I took five seconds for us to
hate the Eagles again, Like that was really quick.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I saw. I saw that tweet. And my problem was,
I was at a I was at a gathering and
I'm like, saw your tweet and I look up and
I'm like, I don't even know what he's talking about.
And then people are like elbowing and needling, and I
go look up, like when did that happen? Like before
the first snap? What? Yeah? That was? That was a
weird one.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So it just tells me like there was nothing that
Nick Sirianni or Vic Fangio or Howie Roseman or Jeffrey
Lourie or anybody did to have Jalen Carter say grow
up in the offseason from the Super Bowl. Him getting
kicked out isn't the one game penalty and move on.
I think it's more of it could be representative of
maybe what this is all about with the Philadelphia Eagles.
(07:22):
I think that there are pitfalls like this, After you win,
does everybody want to get fat and get their own
We shall see seventeen more weeks to play sixteen more games.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
That was as classic an Eagles win early in the
season as you're gonna find. Was it two years ago?
They were like ten and one to start the season,
and we're like, and it seemed like every game was
an escape? Yeah, you know, and then yeah, that's what
that felt like. Cowboys felt like the better team last night.
If he didn't know that that the Eagles won the
(07:53):
Super Bowl, if he didn't know they had Saquon, if
he didn't know that the Giants had trade away their
best defensive player, you'd be like, well, I just watching
these two teams, the one with the star in their
helmet's probably better. They just made some mistakes and weren't
able to capitalize as much. But that's how the Eagles win.
And I think the one thing you do caution yourself
(08:13):
against and this sounds like the opposite of coach speak.
Am I do I like to implore more discipline on
my team? Sure? Sure, but you do in football you
do have to have that edge. Right, It's like they
want you to block not just to the whistle, but
to the end of the whistle, right before they let
off the whistle. Right, there's just that little there's a
(08:36):
level of aggression, there's a level of energy. There's that
magical level, if you will, that you're trying to get to.
And you don't want to take it away from Jalen Carter,
but this, as you point out, that tracks like anything
you've read about Jalen Carter leading up into the NFL
and some once he's been in the NFL. Is why
(08:56):
he is again, why Howie Roseman took a ris that
others weren't willing to take. Here's Brian Schottenheimer after coaching
his first game as a head coach with the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
I don't worry about see lamb. See He's gonna be fine.
What a great player. Again, you know, this was a
this was a team defeat, and we own that. You know,
we understand where we can go as a football team.
We understand. I love the competition. I thought guys competed
their butts off. I thought that was great. But we're
all about winning, and we didn't win tonight, and so
therefore it's not good enough.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Here's the other thing we probably missed on Brian Schottenheimer. Now,
the first thing is Dak Prescott looked really good and
really mobile. And I would also point out that again
we've we've never held Dak in the regards of the
elite quarterbacks, and I think rightfully so, because he's never
performed well enough in the playoffs to earn that distinction.
(09:52):
But Jerry is not an idiot. He did put a
bunch of money in him, and after last night, like
you know what, the old man still may know a
thing or two about a football player. But the thing
that the Cowboys made sure they did with their head
coach is have continuity. The reason they held on to
(10:13):
Schottenheimer was Dak really liked him. They worked together well.
He felt like his offense, his style, his play calling.
That works for him. So while we're concern ourselves with Pickens,
who still has He's talented but still got a lot
of turn in him. He doesn't block things, he doesn't
murders routes, all out of stack in the ball. But
(10:33):
while we're so concerned with their wide receiving core, their
offensive line, their ability to run the football, or whatever,
what I thought last night was it was a win
for continuity. Now that will start to even out the
later we get into the season, because the Eagles have
a new offensive cordon or a new play caller, so
it's always going to be a little bit new, a
little bit different, and take a little bit of an
adjustment period. And they didn't play in the preseason. But
(10:56):
last night was a little bit of a win. Was
a win for the Cowboys even though they lost, because
we all thought they were gonna get blown out and
they didn't, and they looked like the better team. They
just didn't make a couple of plays here or there
that should have solidified them as the better team, or
at least make the Eagles play a little bit better,
make the Eagles throw the ball down the field, something
they didn't have to do last night or couldn't do.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
This is the best of the Doug dot Leaf Show
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
This is a portion of the daily podcast. But I
want to break out on radio because it's always so good.
Our resident curmudgeon is as our producer. His name's Jason Stewart.
Without further ado, we find out who and what's annoying him.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
Today, and now it's your annoying.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Hey, Doug. Charles Barkley was on with Bill Simmons a
Ringer podcast, and they had this exchange about the NBA.
Speaker 9 (11:55):
I think the NBA has got a big problem. How
a regular fan kind of like, Okay, it's Tuesday, FEI
when they start putting games, where do I go, well, well,
like cause you know sometimes the game is gonna be
on Peacock and like it's not gonna be on NBC.
I think that's a huge dilemma. I think it's a
big deal because they get they just took all the
(12:18):
money from all three networks. I don't think they give
it about the fans, and I think this is going
to come back to bite them, to be honest with you,
And then the thing that's scared This deal is for
eleven years, so now people can plan all they want
to for the next eleven years. They don't give it
about the fans. They're like, y'all if y'all find the
games fine, just make sure to check clears.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
What do I find annoying about this is this so
Barkley has him saying that the NBA doesn't give a
crop about the fans. I think carries weight, and I
don't think he's really I think he's he's right about
one thing and then and then he's off. I think
the NBA every single decision they have made, from either
a TV right standpoint or you know, the end season
(13:03):
playoff standpoint, or the extension like playing game, it always
serves their like p ones. In other words, it always
serves their die hard NBA fans. So I think what
Charles is saying is that I don't think the NBA
gives a crap about the casuals. I'm certainly not going
to go to all the apps to find their product.
(13:25):
I think their die hard fans will. But where Charles
is right is that the NBA has kind of lost sight.
They're running their league like it's some kind of a
niche league like the NHL or the WNBA, where they
have to cater to their diehard fans to keep them
as opposed to opening the tent to everybody else.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
I look at it a little differently. I do. There
is a certain old man get off my lawn to
Barkley saying all these streaming services. It's like, that's actually
how young fans watch sports, right, And the old model
of cable or even network TV is a dying model,
(14:11):
so it is so much based upon perception. The other
part too, it is it will still have network games,
network television. ABC is still a part of it, right,
so it'll still be there. These are all games that
you previously got on cable or couldn't get unless you
had your local cable package, and now you can get
with a streaming service. So I love Charles and I
(14:37):
I don't know. You could say he doesn't care about
the fans, but now you have no matter what service
you have, or if you don't have any service, you
can have access to games. So if we're go back,
when Charles played, you only saw the games that were
on your local channel or when they were on weekends
on ABC. Right now you can watch like every game played.
(14:58):
So I actually disagree with him.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
The Roger Goodell and the NFL are pretty brilliant for
bringing in all of Taylor Swift fans. So they brought
in a ton of casuals over the last eighteen years
or eighteen months. This is what Roger Goodell said in
an interview today about Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Is Taylor Swift invited to play the Super Bowl this
year the halftime show?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
We would always love to have Taylor play. She is
a special, special talent and obviously.
Speaker 9 (15:29):
She would be welcome in anytime.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Is it in the works?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I can't tell you anything about it.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Is it a maybe?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's a maybe?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Okay, okay, well, maybe it's a maybe.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
At what point can we expect a decision to be announced.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I'm waiting on my friend jay Z to be able to.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
It's in his hands.
Speaker 9 (15:47):
I'm waiting for the smoke to come out.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Okay, okay, good But you're a Swift tea team, definitely Swift.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
That was on the Today Show. Goodell, Smart, you go
to Today's show, you talk about Taylor Swift, you bring
people into the tent. Get it. What's annoying is that
I don't need to see Taylor Swift perform songs at
the halftime. I've said this and Dan Bayer called me
out on it. This piss is Dan off. But I
think Taylor Swift songs are made for teenage girls, So me,
(16:15):
as a fifty two year old man, I don't need
to sit through ten to fifteen minutes of Taylor Swift songs.
I'm annoyed by that, and Dan will be quick to
tell me they're made for people of all ages. I
think they're made for teenage girls. I'm not the audience,
So I'm annoyed by the prospect of Taylor Swift doing
the halftime.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Well, I have the opposite opinion, not because I don't
agree with you, But isn't that the whole thing with
halftime show? It's you have to have a reason for
people who are not the p ones to pay attention
and watch the first half. It's like, even better, like
why would a teenage girl watch the Super Bowl? She wouldn't.
Now it's grown into now where you have you know,
(16:57):
pre professionals and professional women and but yay' that's the
target demo for halftime because not the target demo for
the Super Bowl? What else? Who else annoying you?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Framber Valdez is a very good pitcher for the Astros.
I think he's been up for like Cy Young recently
in recent years. Left hander, he gave up a Grand
Slam last night to Trent Grisham, who has a lot
of holes in his bat and Framber Valdez got so
pissed off at his catcher, Seesar Sanchez. I guess Sanchez
(17:30):
either called the wrong pitch or asked Framber to step
off the rubber. Whatever it is, you can find it
on John Boy right now if you look. There's a
breakdown of it. So this is how Framber Valdez chose
to handle his catcher. The next batter, his catcher called
for a curveball, was expecting a curveball, and Framber Valdez
threw it right down the middle into the wrist of
(17:53):
his catcher to cross him up, a ninety six mile
hour fastball to the wrist to cross up your and
to I guess punish him for how he called a
picture earlier. They spoke and say that they're good, and
the Framber apologized. Somebody's line and I think it's Framber Valdez.
(18:13):
I think that was a bush league move by an
awful player on a cheating team.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Don't how you really feel? Ah? That was awesome? That
was awesome?
Speaker 10 (18:25):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Can I can I throw in one? And and Dan
byro if you have one. That's something that's annoying you.
I have one. I have And again I'm giving credit
to you, Jase Tuo for going you need to watch
the Cowboys documentary. The the Michael Irvin aspect of it
(18:48):
is so good because, as you pointed out Jay s
dou he's one of like two people who would talk
about the White House, and no one else talked about it.
It's like, hey, you know, it's a documentary. You don't
have to tell him anything if you don't want to
tell him anything. It's basically a Jerry Jones promo piece.
But it was It was kind of It's annoying to
(19:10):
me that they let Michael Irvin get away with basically saying, hey,
from the end of the season until April, he could
party and do whatever he wanted. That's when he got
caught with cocaine. When there was no follow up to like, well,
did you do cocaine in the season? Were you a
drug addict? Like what was because there's all these conflicting Hey,
(19:32):
I only did it in it in the spring. Yet
you went to the White to the White House, which
was a residential house where they had all these orgies
and drugs or whatever again, it's all assumed in there.
But you have a guy, you have guys sitting chairs.
And the other one that they didn't do in the
documentary was there's no discussion about Skip Bayless telling people
(19:53):
that Troy Aikman was gay, right, Like, you're gonna have
racist allegations in the but you're not gonna have and
Skip was in the dock. Troy Aikman's in the dock.
It was a gigantic story. It's still kind of a story.
It laid the groundwork for why Troy Aikman does not
like Skip Bayless wasn't discussed. It's any why you got
(20:17):
anything annoying.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
You just how once you've complimented Jay Stu or complimented
Jay Stue this show. It's been like nineteen times you've said,
what a great job Jay Stu is just I mean, Sam, like,
can you agree like it's been over the top, Okay,
don't it's been disproportionate? Yeah, yes, I agree, that's a
that's a good way to.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Put disproportionate ass kicking of our producer, Doug Gottliebiz. All right,
it's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
The Great e O'Connor joins us. He's a calmnist for
the Athletic but he co authored a book with you
Got a Head Coach Danny Hurley called Never Stop Life,
(20:56):
Leadership and What it Takes to Be Great. It's available
later this month. You can preorder it now. Ian, thanks
so much for joining us. Their Hurly name is synonymous
with basketball, and Danny was, you know, as players. He
was the other brother. And now he's won you know,
two national championships as a head coach and doing it
(21:18):
in his own kind of unique way. What was the
impetus of the idea of writing a book with him?
When did this actually start?
Speaker 10 (21:25):
Yeah, I've known Danny and now known as Dan. He
wants it that way, but some people refuse to call
him Dan. They still call him Danny. And we all
from my generation. I'm sixty one and I knew Danny
when he was six years old, and so I've been
around his father and that family for a long time
and remember seeing Bob Hurley Senior coaching at Saint Anthony's
(21:48):
in Jersey City back in the day when Bobby and
Danny were really young, and almost being terrified of him.
When I was in eighth grade watching him coach, the
intensity was off the charts. Well, you see the same
intensity in Dan today at Yukon, and that was the
rocket fuel behind their two national championships. And so what
(22:10):
we saw this year Doug, as you know, is a
lot of criticism for his approach on the sideline. But
before we got to that point, after he won that
second national title, I called him and I said, Dan,
you should write a book. This is your time. You
came off back to back national championships, which is incredibly
hard to do. You have a great backstory with your family,
(22:33):
and I assumed he had a writer already in mind,
somebody maybe in Connecticut who had covered him. And I
was under contract to do finished another two books, so
I was fine. I just said, you don't need to
do this with me, but you should do a book
with somebody. And I meant that and he said, no,
if I'm going to do it, i'd want to do
it with you. And then we talked about the what's
(22:55):
the vision for the book? And one thing led to another,
and here we are today, where a few weeks away
from the official launch of the book, which is now
available on Amazon, of course in other places, but yeah,
it was me calling him saying, Dan, you need to
do a book with Somebody doesn't have to be me,
and he decided that I was the right person to
do it with.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
How is he in real life as compared to the
in front of the camera life.
Speaker 10 (23:24):
I think that Dan is a sensitive guy, and I
do think that things like the criticism he faced last
season did really bother him. But Dan is a very
loving and loyal person. And I think the one thing
that readers would be surprised at not you, because you're
a Division one coach and you've been around the game forever.
(23:44):
But Dan does not yell at his individual players during
a game. Now, in a timeout, he might yell at
the group, and certainly in practice it can be a
full contact experience, but during games when he going nuts
on the rest and occasionally even getting into it with
the opposing head coach or his assistance, he does not
(24:07):
scream individually at the players because he understood what that
felt like when he was a college player at Seaton
Hall and it didn't make him feel good. So he's
more of a corner man during games, a supporter as
someone who encourages you, gives you confidence and I think
that's been missed in the coverage of him nationally and
the way he's perceived. And to be honest with you,
(24:29):
I wasn't necessarily aware of that either when I started
the process, but I think that and that is what's
most important to me when it comes to college athletics,
is how the adults treat the young men or women
who are on their teams, on their rosters. And I
think Dan, if you talk to his players, they don't
(24:50):
want to play for anybody else. They swear by him
to a kid, to a player, and that's something that
I wanted to bring out in this book and I
hopefully we did.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Stuck out Liab show here on Fox Sports Radio Ian
O'Connor as our guests. The new book is called Never
Stop Life, Leadership and What it Takes to Be Great.
He co authored it with two time National championship head
coach Danny Hurley or Dan Hurley.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
What I.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
There's There are so many different aspects to his life
and his path to this to success which are interesting,
but some of it has been told through TV. When
you know you make Final four's people they try and
do these personal interest stories and tell things. What's one
that's in the book that people don't.
Speaker 10 (25:38):
Know well the depth of his depression that he suffered
as a student at s Eaton Hall. He gets to
some pretty dark places. I'm not sure the average fan
is necessarily fully aware of that, and I think in
the book bringing out his humanity was important to me.
And there was a next Serve today on the athletics
(26:02):
website about Dan really struggling after this past season, really
human thoughts about should I resign three decades straight of
high intensity coaching without a break, without a single break,
and after a very challenging and difficult season against measured
against their standard of winning national championships, and the criticism
(26:24):
he took left him very vulnerable and thinking about walking away.
Do I need to resign as the head coach of
the Yukon Huskies. And he was very candid with me
about that human struggle he felt, and the price you
pay to compete at the highest levels of college sports today,
and also the changing nature of the game where now
(26:46):
recruiting is all about how much can you pay a kid?
And that's not the way he was raised in the business.
Recruiting is about relationships, or at least they used to be.
And also having a great program that would attract people,
and really, now down and how much are you going
to pay me? And I know I never thought it
would get to that point in college sports. I'm sixty
one years old, and if you told me that forty
(27:09):
years ago this would be the case, I never would
have believed it. And I think he's a similar mindset.
But all that sort of put together in a cauldron
of bubbling emotion led left him in a place where
he thought about walking away. Now. He didn't leave yukon
the previous summer, despite being offered seventy million dollars to
coach the most glamorous franchise in the NBA, the Lakers,
(27:32):
And this time he didn't walk away either. I guess
the author of never Stop should not stop, and he didn't.
But I think that that will surprise the reader is
just how emotionally cooked he was at the end of
last season, how he was sitting there just wondering if
he should even continue as a college coach. He ultimately
decided to come back, and they have a really good roster,
(27:54):
a better roster than they had last year. But I
think that'll be surprising the most.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Readers and did I read write that he nearly left
just to be an analyst at Fox Sports.
Speaker 10 (28:05):
He had some conversations with He told me a TV
executive Andrew marsh and reported today it was Fox. Now
it makes sense his former agent, Jordan Design is a
Fox executive. So yeah, I think that that was something
he thought he could do for one year, basically, take
a gap year, do some TV and then recharge and
(28:28):
come back. Now he'd have to come back somewhere else
in college basketball or the NBA. I do think, and
this is really more my opinion, I think he will
coach in the NBA before he retires. I do think
that he wants to scratch that itch, if you will
take that shot, at some point. I think he wants
to win another national championship or two at Yukon. So
(28:48):
I think he'll be at Yukon for a number of
years before he possibly makes that move. And again, this
is really more my opinion. But if you told me
he was head co to the New York Knicks seven
years from now, I would not be surprised.
Speaker 9 (29:05):
That.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Being said, there are very few coaches who are as animated,
maybe any that as animated as he is in the pros.
What do you think of the adjustment he'll have to
make to coach in the NBA in terms of his approach.
Speaker 10 (29:23):
It's a great question, Doug, and he does believe like
his father. Now. I was surprised when he told me
this that his father, as he got older, mellowed out
a little bit and got a little kinder and gentler
and maybe a little more user friendly or player friendly.
I was surprised that he made that observation, and he
suspects the same thing will happen to him now. It's
(29:45):
hard to believe looking at Dan Hurley today that you
could see him calming down, for lack of a better expression,
as he gets into his mid to late fifties, But
he believes that will happen and make him then more
compatible with what the NBA is. We all know it's
a players league, and so listen. He fiercely considered the Lakers,
(30:06):
and he did believe he could coach Lebron James. And
I said to him later, you know, if you knew
Luca was going to be traded there, would you have
taken that job? And he said, no, I would have
made the same decision because I'm not really ready to
coach in the NBA yet, and I think I do
need to change a little bit, and along the lines
of what he said, his father went through that change.
(30:27):
So I again the way I look at it, the
way I look at his career after spending a lot
of time with him last season, I do believe that
he will take on that challenge as the last challenge
of a great career. To me, he's already a Hall
of Famer as a college coach, but to take that
last step and prove he can do it at the
(30:49):
highest level, I do think that's something that intrigues him
down the road in something that he ultimately will do.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
What's the dynamics of the family, Like, you know, Bobby
was always the star growing up. Now Bobby has had
a successful but kind of up and down coaching career,
whereas Danny we mentioned before how he was used as
a player, the slow and steady climb and now the
champion coach. Of course, the dad is the legend. What's
(31:17):
the dynamics of that family like now?
Speaker 10 (31:20):
Yeah, I think everyone is. Everyone gets along and supports
each other. And obviously their father's now retired, but he's
arguably the greatest high school boys basketball coach ever in
this country, and Morgan Wooton would be in that conversation
as well. I think that it's interesting, right the dynamic
has flipped where Danny was the other player and now
(31:43):
Bobby is sort of the other coach. But Bobby has
a very, very challenging job, and he has done a
good job at at Arizona State, but that is a
tough job the conference they're in now, and it's not
really a basketball school. I actually lived on that campus
right next to the arena back nineteen eighty six eighty
seven out of college, and so I know a little
(32:04):
bit about Arizona State and its history, and it's just
not a basketball school. So I do think Bobby has
done a good job there and will continue to do so.
But Dan, you know, he's showing up at Yukon. That's
not easy either because the standard there was national championships.
Jim Calhoun won three, Kevin Ollie won one, and it's
amazing that story on the women's side and the men's side,
(32:26):
what a school in stores Connecticut has done in college
basketball women's and men's divisions is unbelievable, And when you
look at where it's located, so Dan, when he arrived
at Yukon, he had to win national championships and he's
done that. He's done an incredible job measuring up to
that expectation. And I do think he'll win another one
(32:46):
or two certainly before he ever leaves that school, and
it might be this year. The motto last year was dynasty.
You could have that same motto this year if they win.
If they win three out of four, that's certainly a dynasty.
Last year a disappointment, but hey, he almost beat the
ultimate national champion in Florida in the second round the
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NCAA tournament. That to me, was a testament to Dan's
coaching ability with that roster. I thought Dan the coach
really outperformed that Dan the GM last year and actually
did a very good job with what he had to
work with. And he almost picked off Florida in the
second round, and that shouldn't be forgotten.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Ian O'Connor, you got to check out this new book.
It's outstanding as thanking. Anything he writes is one. Read
his work in the athletic follo him on social media
and pick up never Stop Life Leadership, What it Takes
to be Great svailable. Later this month. You can pre
order it now. He co authored it with two time
national championship head coach Dan Hurley. Ian, you're the best man.
(33:47):
Let's talk in soon. Thanks for being our.
Speaker 10 (33:49):
Guest, Hey, Doug, thanks so much, and best of luck
in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
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I'm a proud of them. Voklahoma State. They beat Tennessee
Martin on Thursday, and they'll play Oregon on Saturday in Eugene.
(34:33):
Part of the home and home series. Oregon comes to
Stilly next year. All of our fans in Eugene. Yeah,
next year, I'll head down there. We'll have a have
a good time early in the season. Be able to
do the show probably the night before from there. But
there was a curious back and forth, and I'll give
you the blow by blow with a couple of little
(34:53):
cuts on it. It's really interesting here right that we
are paying players at all levels of college athletics. Some
are there, there are, there are some college basketball programs
who do not very few college football. I don't think
there are any that aren't paying any players. You do
(35:15):
make the decision on paying everybody, which I think most
people do in football, it's hit or missing basketball. Do
you you know, do tears or do you just each
individual guy would negotiate with him. Lots of decisions to
be made from that perspective, But I think, just me,
(35:36):
I think that you're pretty well aware players are being paid.
So keep that in mind. And there's still this weird
feeling that a lot of people have, like are we
supposed to be doing this? We're not supposed to be
doing this. And some of the reaction is in the
(35:57):
idea that it diminishes the coach if you have a
bigger pot of money. Right, So we'll get to it
a second. Here's my gundhy head, coach of Oklahoma State,
getting ready for the Oregon game.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I guess that the last three years that we spent
around seven million over the three years, and I think
Oregon spent close to forty last year alone. Wow, so
that was just one year. Okay, Now I might be
off a few million, but they're spending a lot of money.
(36:36):
They spent a lot of money, you know, and there's
some schools that are doing that.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
If you listen to the entirety of the cut. He
wasn't negative about organ He was saying they have amazing resources.
I do think the figure of forty is quite high.
I think it's you know, again, that's factoring and a
bunch of stuff that aren't what they're really factoring in.
My guess is it starts with a two, But I
don't know. Here's Dan Lanning, highly successful Oregon HEEAD coach,
(37:08):
former Georgia assistant. Here's Lanning.
Speaker 11 (37:11):
I got a ton of respect for coach Gundy. You know, ultimately,
how blessed are we to be in a place that's
invested in winning. If you want to be a top
ten team in college football, you better be invested in winning,
and we spend to win. Some people say to have
an excuse for why they don't right, And ultimately he's.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
A great coach.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
They've done an unbelievable job.
Speaker 11 (37:26):
But I want to be a team that's competing at
the highest level, and we're really fortunate to be in
that situation. So I can't speak on their situation. I
have no idea. You know, what's what they got in
their pockets over there? I'm sure U T. Martin maybe
didn't have as much as them last week.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, that's where he goes to a whole bote. Hey
you played you T Martin last week? Huh. They didn't
have nearly the budget you had. Didn't hear you complaining
about is Gundy complaining? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Is he?
Speaker 6 (37:57):
Is?
Speaker 1 (37:57):
He honest? Yeah? Like, look, I was critical of Mike
last year when you know his star running back got
a dui and he's like, ain't anything I haven't done
a hundred times again, I wouldn't have said it, nor
would I have done it. I mean I Saturday night
this weekend, I went over to a buddy's house. They're
all having old fashions, was consonantble fashions. I was like,
(38:19):
I just can't have one. They're like, why it was?
I can't get a dui? Like one drink? Like what's
what's the point of one drink? Like I'd like to
have a couple of drinks. And I'm just not going
to do it. I'm not gonna put myself in that situation.
I want. I'm not gonna possibly get a dui. But
the point is that even though I greatly disagree with them,
no one has ever accused my Gundhi of pulling punches
(38:40):
and being dishonest. I think what he wanted to get
out there was we had no money the past couple
of years. This is the first year we're spending money
and we're trying to figure it out, and there's gonna
be hits, there's gonna be missus but Landing taking a
swipe late, and man, I don't think U. T. Barton
had that much money. The other part, which is kind
of patently unfair, which is, hey, i'd rather you know,
(39:01):
if you want to spend to win, that sounds great.
Some programs don't have that. If Boone Pickens were still alive,
they probably would maybe maybe not, you know, Oklahoma State,
it just does not have the depth of that level
of donors that are that committed, and it makes it
(39:22):
really hard. Plus they're trying to be good at every
sport softball, basketball, football, soccer, wrestling, they're really good at,
you know, questioning. My daughters said, like they have little
money because they're trying to be good at so many
different sports, But I thought it was interesting, like that's
what coaches talk about all the time. I told you,
(39:43):
guys this last week. We were playing Ohio State last year.
It was like an eight point game, and I switched
up a ball stream coverage and then all of a sudden,
we're down like fifteen. I just started emptying the bench
and playing guys. It was the one by game that
got bad and I was in. I was just devastating
the locker, mad at myself. Why'd I switch the ball
screen coverage. I just tried to spark us. Well, just
(40:05):
I'm in my own sorrow. One of my coaches grabbed
and he said, what was our budget this year? Said
at one hundred? He said, yeah, there was a three million,
maybe three and a half. That thing was over before
the jump ball, right, So you can use an excuse
(40:30):
or an explanation or a motivation for your fans, your
bone donors. If you want to be like Organ, you
gotta spend like Organ. Landing took it as a slam
at him a little bit. That's why he pushed back.
And I think it's because Lanning operates on the premise
that I agree with this, that does it take great personnel.
(40:52):
Yes does. It takes spending short, but it also takes
quality coaching, because the more you pay kids, the harder
it is to get them to do the little things.
We do this every Monday. I don't see why we
shouldn't do it. Now. Let's do a little love and hate?
Shall we love and hate? Oh? It's Tuesday? Did you
guys do it yesterday? Did you guys do it love
(41:13):
it hate yesterday? Dad Buyer?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yes we did, Yes, we did.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
What'd you love from the weekend?
Speaker 2 (41:18):
I loved Ohio State's victory on Saturday against Texas. That
was great. Again, not overblown, but it was just great
to have college football back and the team won a
big game.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, Sam, would you love on the weekend?
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Well?
Speaker 5 (41:37):
I was supposed to go camping and I did not.
I'm kind of glad that I didn't. It fell through
and I gorged, gorged on college football.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
That's what I loved.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
I mean, I was watching from Thursday night up until
last night. It was a wonderful, wonderful Labor Day weekend.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
What about you there, Jase two.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
I'm a college football casual. I don't necessarily root for
a team, but I root for store wines, as you know,
and going into the year, I'm rooting against two individuals,
Arch Manning and Deon Sanders. Both of them crap the
bed over the weekend, and I enjoyed that. I love that.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I did think that Deon Sanders, like they not calling
a time out there when there's two blatantly obvious moments
where they could have called the time out and they didn't.
On the last drive. I wasn't cheering them to lose.
I did want to see what it looked like without
his son, and they lost. What I loved from the weekend,
I mean, I just loved that I didn't actually have
to move Saturday. I moved very little. I moved very low.
(42:39):
I was not rewarded. Like the Texas Texas Ohuse Tate
game was not a great game. Nobody will tell you otherwise.
Like it just wasn't. Wasn't that cleanly played, teams weren't ready,
wasn't None of the games were great, But it was
just good to have something on TV that we could
all argue about on Monday. Rights just really good. What'd
you hate from the weekend, Dan Byer, what was your
(43:00):
hate that you listed?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I think my hate was my luggage got delayed because
my plane got delayed and traveling on Saturday, so there
was a bunch of stuff, And so then you have
to make the decision do you wait because I was
fortunate enough to have another flight where my luggage was
coming in that same night, or do you wait till
the next day? I did not like that very much.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Okay, Chase dou what'd you hate in the weekend?
Speaker 3 (43:29):
I hated watching my baseball team, the Dodgers, regress to
what they were before sweeping the Podreys. They're still doing
with the same issues. In a weekend against the Podreys
at home, they seemingly had fixed all of their problems,
addressed all their bugaboos, and then in the games prior
(43:51):
or games after that, they have gone back to what
they were prior to that. So we need to fix
some stuff up here. In the last three weeks of
the season.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Three weeks left, ug Sam, what'd you hate? For the weekend?
Speaker 5 (44:04):
I think I need a new TV or I at
least need to do a factory reset of my TV
because the YouTube TV multiview, which that really should be
my hate, you still can't customize it exactly the way
you want it and that bothers me. They should have
this figured out, should pick exactly the games you want.
That's not my hate though. That's been a long standing
right for me, the multiview thing. But my TV couldn't
(44:25):
even handle multiview. It kept crashing, so I couldn't watch
four games on one screen. It kept just like turning
off or going back to the main menu. So, oh,
I have no I know, I might need a new TV.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Those are always fun purchases though, right, you can the
upgrade to a little bit bigger one. Yeah, I need
a better picture.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
Sure, this is an old Roku TV and.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
It's small, and they're not that I mean. And if
you can go to like Target and get one's expensive, Yeah,
TV's are crazy.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Imagine that two thousand and five, so just twenty years ago,
if you were if you were to say, one day,
I'm going to complain that these four HD images will
not be able to look great on my TV in
uh from the internet.
Speaker 5 (45:16):
Yeah, now you put in proper perspective there, I would say.
I will say that we've had the picture in picture
for a long time now. It's been a technology, it's
been around.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah, but it went away, it went away a while.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
It went away, Yeah, went away for a while because
it was garbage. So that's not even a great example
to use.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Wow, clean that up, and yeah, deleting the podcast. My
my hate is the nonsensical decisions and nonsensical takes that
come from one college football game where people aren't really invested.
You know. It's the same thing we get with bowl
games or with NCAA tournament games, like but especially now,
like they've literally had fifteen practices. They're still their kids,
(45:55):
so they're not like whatever your memory is of great
college quarterbacks, go and watch him play first week of
the season, in their first start. And yeah, I'm talking
a little bit about Arch Spanning. I thought some of
his fundamentals did break down. I thought he did get
sped up. But I was actually at Peyton Manning's first
collegiate game. They played UCLA. He was a backup. He
(46:17):
came in off the bench and he was good. But like,
let's not act like you said, the world of fire
and they're playing against a really good Ohio State team.
So but my bigger one is again like the let's
fire Kalin de boor like he's been there for fourteen games,
what are we doing, you know, I mean just the
(46:38):
craziness of one game that you're not really invested in,
not really invested in
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