September 13, 2025 • 43 mins
On this edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug weighs in on what happened in the Monday night game between the Bears and Vikings, and says the hardest thing as a coach to do is to coach your team how to win.
On this installment of Love AND Hate, Doug and the crew share what they loved most and hated most from the weekend.
Doug talks about championship energy and how that relates to the way the Packers look and feel right now.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
I hope you're having a great day.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live every single day, and you
can also check out the podcast Versus the Show wherever
you download podcast. We got one week of NFL games
in the books, and it culminated with I thought it
was a good watch, interesting game last night Soldier Field,
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where yeah, the Inner Green Bay resident in me wants
to say, well, the Bears still suck, right, But there's
a lot more to it than that. I think. Here's
the part that here's the part that I know as
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a coach. I believed I knew beforehand, but it became
even more apparent as time went on, and it was
apparent watching Ben Johnson, who I thought had his team ready,
had him team prepped, you know, so like part of
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the big part of coaching, you know, is one you
got to have not just the right system, but the
right talent for the right system. Sometimes that takes a
little bit of time. Two you got to have a
great plan, and three you gotta have the players prepared,
prepared for what the other team plans, so they can
counterattack or counter whatever they're trying to do right count
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whatever they try to do. So I thought Ben Johnson's
team was well prepared. I thought they were pretty focused.
Defense got him a tuddy offense, could you know, solid
first drive with a couple of plays where they broke
off of script. And despite the fact their offense had
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gone meh for basically two and a half other quarters,
they were still in pole position, prime position to win
a game. That's when the Vikings woke up. They're essentially
rookie quarterback JJ McCarthy started gaining confidence and make plays.
And that's also when you know, Flores kind of cranked
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up the pressure on the Bears, and the Bears sort
of wilted under that pressure. They did score a touchdown late,
did have a chance to either kick an on sidekick
or get the football back if they kicked it. Out
of bounce. They did neither, and the game expires and
they lose the game without much of an opportunity to
get the football back with just one timeout and the
two minute warning having expired on the kickoff. But people
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ask all the time, like, what did you learn? Well,
I don't know if I learned it or I already
knew it. But the hardest thing to do in coaching
is teaching a team how to win, right, Because you
can take them to the water, but man, you just
can't make them drink. You can open up their mouth,
pour it in close their mouth, but they don't always
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swallow and actually drink that water. And when you come
into organizations which are used to winning and what's used
to losing those games, it's really hard to turn around
the narrative. That's honestly what Jim Harbaugh does best. Right, So,
what Jim Harbaugh does best, he finds a way to
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create a culture where winning is expected, and even with
guys that haven't necessarily done it yet or done it before,
they do it at the NFL level. And I'm watching
last night with the Bears, and from I mean Caleb Williams,
you can't have a grounding penalty. There if you don't
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have a grounding penalty, if you just throw the ball away,
or even if you eat the football going down, you're
in better field goal range. You don't miss the field goal,
and the Vikings never come back and take a lead. So, yeah,
Caleb Williams missed some throws. Caleb Williams looked overwhelmed against
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against some of the pressure late Caleb Williams does it
does look like it takes a while to load up
and get rid of that football. And he's not exceptionally big.
There's some things he does really really well. But Caleb
Williams is he's more the symptom than the problem, and
the symptom is it's a symptom of the greater thing,
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which is the Bears don't know how to win those
games and the Vikings do. And you could even say
that's what JJ McCarthy does, right, I wouldn't combined his
college record, his pro record when he's at Michigan really well, coached,
great team, win a national championship, all that's good. But
I mean it's a different sport at different level. But
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there is a part to me that says, you know,
there's a reason this guy is thirty eight and one
is now thirty nine. Starts winners win, They just find
a way. And last night the Vikings found away. Last
night the Bears did not. That's really as kind of
simple as as you can put it. Last night the
Vikings found away and the Bears did not. And because
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of it, you know, we're left with Okay, So is
JJ McCarthy out good when he was bad the first
three quarters? Is Killer Williams bad when he was good
in the first quarter? I don't know. But my takeaway
from last night is that Ben Johnson, his first game
as the head coach, had his team mentally and physically
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prepared and in the right head and they play. They
played really well in the first half on in some stretches,
especially the defensive side the football. But it fell apart
late because he has not yet figured out or they
have not yet been able to understand how they need
to learn how to win, because they do not. They
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do not. This is JJ McCarthy, who's the quarterback obviously
the Vikings talking about adversity that we.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Gotta believe, you know, that's one thing that we can
do is control the controllables in our belief and you know,
going out there and executing that next play. And you
know it's as simple as that. We got a great
group and everyone was on the same page with that.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Gotta believe, you know, you gotta find guys that buy in.
You gotta find the right fit. Here's Kevin O'Connell, head
coach of the Vikings, talking about JJ's JJ's night.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
It's not always going to be pretty when you're trying
to bring along a young quarterback. You just got to
keep playing and you got to allow, you know, him
to grow. There was a lot of just things we
can improve on and we will be great to be
home for a couple of weeks. All in all, I'm
very proud of our team, very proud of our staff,
and just that figured out in this and find a
way is something that will be a redeeming quality as
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we continue to press on. Where JJ McCarthy. For him
to make some of the plays he did, I told
him at halftime, you are going to bring us back
to win this game, and the look in his eye
was fantastic. And the best thing is just a belief
I felt from the team, the unit, and ultimately that
doesn't get done without him in the second half, two
passing touchdowns and then the critical rushing touchdown.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Here's Call Williams summoning up their loss.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
That mentality is something that we have, something that we
you know, that we preach, and that didn't happen today.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
And I'm not it's not.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
A play call thing. It's not anything like that. It's
just being able to go out there and execute the
players that are called and be able to you know,
execut him at a high level. I mean, that's something
that that we take pride in, and you know, today
that didn't happen, and we're going to get back to it.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Gonna gonna get back to it. Got to get back
to trying to win, trying to win games. Yeah, well,
I just think Kevin O'Connell's outright belief and the ability
to get guys to believe and you have a team
that has won some Here's Peyton and Eli on the
Manning cast talking about why you kick off out of
bounds before the two minute warning. But by the way,
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I thought everybody knew.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
You're thinking that maybe Chicio should just kick the ball
out of bounds, kick it out of bounds fort and
take the penalty.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Take the penalty. It's on the forty. You always love that.
And now you still got the time time out and
the two minute warning.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You say, yeah, you get to take any time, get
a time out out of bound for you get to
stop the inZone. Right, you get the ball with a
minute and ten seconds left. Yes, yes, it was I
think actually fifty eight seconds what they would go. Here's
Ben Johnson talking about Cairo Santos kicking it into the
end zone instead of kicking it out of bounds.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
The intent was for the ball to go out of
the end zone. Was there, do you guys consider I'd say.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Kick, Yeah, it did.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
We felt like if we'd have kicked it out of
the end zone and gotten the three and out that
we got, we would get the ball back with around
fifty six seconds.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
There you go, There you go. So I again, the
question is the question you have to ask is what
specifically did he say to Kyro Santos? Did he say
kick it out of bounds or kick it to where
they can't return it. It has to be a touchback
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right again, Like you sit there and go like, wait,
Kyro Santos is not a rookie kicker. I understand kicking
rules had changed and obviously Cayrosantos either didn't know. I
mean he can kick in the ball out about it
and if you can't kick it out of the back
of the end zone, then kick it out the sideline
where they get the forty. But those are just the
little things. Does it mean the Bears would have won
the game?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Does it mean they absolute would have gotten the ball back? No,
But you in order to put yourself in position where
you get every opportunity to win, you have to kick
the ball at a bouncer, and they did not.
Speaker 8 (09:58):
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Speaker 1 (10:05):
What but You Doug Got Leap Show, Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app Welcome in. I hope you're having a great day,
maybe the greatest day you've ever had in your entire life.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
What if that happened today?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Today was the greatest day in your life?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Could be Ryan, You're just like your Debbie Downer. Don't
be a no, just being honest. Okay, Okay, my boy
Jay Stu in the house.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So I'm just gonna put this out there real quick
before we get to what we want to get to
in this part of the show. I've just been told
that Buyer and Jay Stu are headed to Buffalo for
Dolphin's bills.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Is that correct? That's correct?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Okay, Now I don't know. I'm without looking, I don't
know if we're on in Buffalo. I'm sure we're on
somewhere close to Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So here's the deal. I've sent out some texts.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I have very high level of confidence that between Tom
to LESCo, who we just had on, who's from Buffalo
originally like hometown, and between my other connections in the
NFL and Thursday Night Football, I'll see some of those people.
A couple of TNF people owe me a favor that
I'll be able to get you tickets what I need. Great,
(11:19):
that's not what I need. I need Bill's mafia to
take care of these two guys. Because Dan wants to
go to what's name in the stadium.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
High Mark Stadium, what was it originally called?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
When we're Richfield, Richfield, rich Rich Dan wants to go
and see the stadium before they bulldoze the stadium.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Right that, Yes, that's the only yes. What's the other
part to it? No, that that is the only reason.
Speaker 9 (11:45):
Buffalo is one of the few cities that also well
the other reason would be Buffalo is one of the
few cities in the United States, like major cities I've
never been to, so I would like to see what
Buffalo is like.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Dated that game is what?
Speaker 9 (11:57):
It's a week from Thursday? Yes, okay, so well was seventeenth?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
The seventeenth? Noted seventeenth? Is that it? Is it the eighteenth?
Jay eighteenth eighty eight? Okay eighteenth? Ironically, I'll be here,
I'm here, you're there.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
It's a big junior college eventward, some recruiting in California
that that that Friday. Anyway, So here's what I need. Okay,
Dan Byer, please give your Twitter handle.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
At Dan Bayer on Fox. Jay Su please give your
Twitter handle.
Speaker 10 (12:30):
At Jason Stewart as it's spelled ew yep.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
At Jason Stewart Okay, and you can include me at
Gottlieb Show if you'd like. If you don't like, this
does not involve me. This involves there's zero doubt in
my mind that some member of Bill's Mafia is listening
to the show. And whether they member remember Jay Stu
from back in the old Rome days, okay, or they're
just an avid listener, or you listen to Dan on weekends,
or you download is I want your Flex podcast? Nice
(12:55):
little plug there, or you're just listening to the DG Show,
or you're just a dude. Okay, you can't have Dan
Byer come and say this is the final stop on
my I've seen every city tour and going to.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Uh, what is it? Save Mark Kimark Stadium.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Okay, and see the Buffalo Bills and not hang out
with Bill's Mafia fair.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
That's like going to Manhattan and not going in to
see a show. That's like coming to la and not
seeing a homeless person. It's not part of the trip.
You haven't made the full trip. It's like my brother
says this. My brother used to have a joke. I
don't know if this joke. He's like, you haven't been
to It's not really a trip to Mexico unless you've
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seen something on fire, three legged dog, and somebody selling
your cheek lay at the border, right, And if you've
been to Mexico, you're like, yeah, it's all three of
those things. Good, you had a Mexico trip. Otherwise you
just went to a resort. A real Mexico trip is
something on fire, three legged dog, somebody selling your cheek ley.
I'll alternate oranges as well where you get sold oranges.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yes, there is.
Speaker 9 (14:01):
Something about this stadium and I even think when you
look back at the eighties and nineties when we grew
up watching football, it was a different look. It just
it doesn't look like in NFL stadium and that's why
I love it. And now they've got their new stadium
that will probably look like a lot of others. It'll
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have all the bells and whistles, the whole deal. But
there's just been something unique about this. The camera angle
is always super low on TV, which I think that
makes it even more intriguing when you're watching it. But
I just wanted to see a game. This is probably
for at least a decade, I've wanted to go, and
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now time is running out and it's now forcing my hand.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so
can we hook these guys up? Please hook these guys up.
They need to be shown the greatest Thursday night experience
in b flow history. This is on you, Bills Mafia.
Don't say you're don't say this is a great place,
and not show our guys a good time. Jason Stewart,
Dan Bayer, find them on social media and connect with them,
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and you guys keep me updated as to the connections.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Let's get to love and hate.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
What did you love?
Speaker 10 (15:17):
God?
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I love you?
Speaker 8 (15:18):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Meet these player haters?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
What'd you love from the weekend? What'd you hate from
the weekend? Ryan, You're gonna have to find something nice
to say. That's part of love. Let's start with that
resident at level boy, Dan Byer, what'd you.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Love in the weekend?
Speaker 9 (15:36):
Well, I'll tell you what. It was quite the experience
that I had on Saturday night. My wife and I
talking about looking forward to things ever since we found
out that Oasis was reuniting. I had been looking forward
to going to see their show, and we are lucky
enough living in southern California. Then in one of their
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five US stops show in Chicago, two and New York
and to in LA that I was able to attend
one of them. So Saturday night, my wife and I
saw Oasis Live twenty five the reunion tour, and it
was everything everything that I expected and so much more.
It was just it was great. It was hit after hit,
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absolutely love the atmosphere rose bol was packed. It was
just it was amazing and it was such an energy.
One of those concerts where you're still thinking about it
and talking about it a day later. Two days later,
you're still listening to the music. So that's what I
love from this weekend was checking out Oasis and seeing
Oasis on Saturday night.
Speaker 10 (16:42):
So those guys packed the Rose Bowl. Yes, after being
completely gone for thirty years? Is that how long?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
It's not that long, Probably about fifteen or so.
Speaker 10 (16:51):
Oh okayes Man, and you were very familiar with their
catalog going in, Yes, Okay, I'm not. I think I
know the very high level couple hits.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's one of the weirdest things ever. I mean, genius marketing.
But I would agree. Like I flew out here from
Nashville right went to wedding on the weekend on Friday,
and there was people coming in for the concert from
Nashville like Oasis, and I was like, is I missed
the I missed the Oasis was that big. But they
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have whatever, whether it's not touring, whether they become more
popular in the time since they actually whatever it.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Is, it's kind of crazy crazy.
Speaker 9 (17:34):
It's just it's a great song after great song, and
I think that they're dynamic and them as brothers is
something that is so captivating.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Didn't know their brothers? You didn't know Liam and Nole
were brothers. No, you knew that, right, Jason.
Speaker 10 (17:48):
I knew that. I knew they hated each other for many.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
Y Yeah, because that's so much about the story of
and why they weren't and why they weren't together.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
It was that they were brothers. Liam's the younger brother.
Speaker 9 (17:59):
And it was just it was magnificent. Paul McCartney, oddly
enough attended the attended the show on Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
It was just great.
Speaker 9 (18:09):
It was eighty thousand people just having the time of
their lives and people were flying in because they've said
and they this may be wrong, but I would say
this last name, Yeah, this is this is not that
they're getting together, And maybe they will be because they
are on good terms right now. Even Liam's always trying
to hug Nol. But there were only five shows in
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the States.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
It wasn't like.
Speaker 9 (18:32):
They're gonna go to San Diego this week and then
the next weekend they're up in Seattle, then they'll hit Denver,
then they'll go down to Texas and play Dallas and Houston. No,
it was Chicago, two nights in New York, two nights
in LA. Then they'll go to Mexico City, they'll go
to Asia and Australia, and they've got some couple of
shows in South America, like three shows in South America
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in November, and then that's the tour.
Speaker 11 (18:55):
And is it tonight as well? No, it was last
night Saturday Sunday. Yeah, it just came up on my memory.
So six years ago, this September, I went to see
the Stones for the first time at the Rose Bowl.
I have a logistics question for you. Where did you
park and how much of a pain in the ass
was it to get out of the park?
Speaker 9 (19:15):
We were so early, we were there at five thirty.
Oasis didn't get on until eight forty five. It was
easy as pie. We were pretty close, we were close
to the We parked on the golf course. We were
actually close to the clubhouse, so we didn't have far
to walk. And yeah, just I mean a little bit,
but when you have eighty thousand people, a little bit
of a delay to get out. But it wasn't it
wasn't a headache at all.
Speaker 10 (19:35):
Good for you.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, it worked. Out well.
Speaker 10 (19:39):
Okay, So Aaron Rodgers I mentioned last week, it's a
story that I'm following the closest this season. I'm interested
to see how he does. He beat the Jets at
the Jets, I wasn't very interested in this revenge angle.
I don't think there's enough. There wasn't enough time spent
there for there to be a major revenge I do
know that there was that reported incident or exchange between
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him and the Jets new head coach where Aaron Rodgers
flew across the country only to be told we don't
need you. He addressed it after the game last night.
Speaker 12 (20:14):
You spoke about the meeting with Alan Glenn on McAfee
a few months ago. Beating him is your significance in
that sense.
Speaker 13 (20:21):
He basically told you to your face that he.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Didn't think you were.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Right for that team.
Speaker 12 (20:26):
Yes, that's what he did. So there are significance in
beating him for you. I was happy to beat everybody
associated with the Jets. It was nice to win, especially,
you know, hearing some of the cat calls out there
and the Bluebirds. You know, I don't I'm not sensitive
about that. I expected that, you know, I kind of
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liked that, but there were probably people in the organization
I didn't think I could play anymore, so it was
nice to remind those people that I still can.
Speaker 10 (20:56):
Four touchdowns, no interceptions the Steelers one on a Boswell.
I want to say, what sixty year old sixty yard
field goal. It was a very entertaining game to watch
for a couple of reasons, but one of them was
the old man won, and I'm rooting for him, so
it was great to say. I love saying that.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
What are the other reasons?
Speaker 10 (21:18):
Because Justin Fields looked great and I wish I had
Justin Fields on my fantasy team. He's fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, No, I mean that was interesting.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Also, huge fumble and special teams in the Jets. Gigantic
fumble and special teams in the Jets. Ryan, what you
got well?
Speaker 14 (21:33):
Anything to do with the Boston area. I despise Doug
So me being a Raiders fan who's still upset over
the tuck rule, it made me grin from ear to
ear that my Raiders beat the Patriots. I don't like
Josh McDaniels. I don't know why he keeps getting job opportunities.
He sucks, And I just love the fact that Pete
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Carroll seventy plus years old. They go into New England
and they beat the Patriots. That's what I love.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
Raid raid is, raid is.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, it was good Win. I'll tell you what I
loved was the green back Packers looked like a CHAMPIONIP team.
They just did and was the offense lights out? Like no,
like Detroit is still good. Detroit seems to lack whatever
that special something they had had. And we'll like, like
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we're being fair. Week one is hard. New coordinator, some
some different pieces from last year, but Micah Parsons did
not play a ton of snaps and they still dominated
the Lions. Now if you can start out too and
oh at home Lions and Commanders on Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Now you're cooking. Now you're cooking.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
And for the most part, I think they had one
possible injury going to yesterday. But the Packers it just
felt and looked different. Maybe it was that the Lions
weren't ready, maybe that the Lions it hadn't played enough
in the new system. But I think a lot of
it was there's just an energy to this Packers team
which feels like Super Bowl energy. I could be wrong,
(23:23):
because I've been following the Chargers for so long, I
haven't seen Super Bowl energy felt that way. All right,
let's get to what we hated from the weekend. A
resident hater although that we have two with you and Ryan,
but let's start with you, Jaysuo.
Speaker 10 (23:36):
So since Sam isn't here today, I feel kind of
compelled to sam up my hate because three things I
really hated this weekend, I couldn't stand them. But I
won't do it. I won't sam it up, but I
will mention that. I won't mention that Pat Mahomes acting
like he's going out of bounds and then laying a
blow on our cornerback with the Chargers. I thought that
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was Bushley and the Kara Swisher Elizabeth Warren look alike
who stole the ball from the ten year old kid
on Saturday night. That I hated too, for many reasons
we'll get into in the podcast. Okay, but something that
happened Saturday night, that's a new woe. And I know
Dan Byer, I already nobody's going to say to this. Yeah,
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it's really easy to complain. You're in first place, you're
the defending world champions, you'll probably win the division for
the next ten years. But this Dodgers team has been
particularly annoying, has been particularly frustrating, and it reached a
new woe on Saturday night. Our pitcher was throwing a
no hitter, two outs in the ninth inning, two outs,
(24:44):
one out away from a no hitter for Yamamoto. Your
guy Jackson Holiday ruined that hits a solo home run
to make it three to one. So we're like, okay, cool,
three to one, we still got the game, right, No, No,
let's bring in Blake Ryan double hit a guy walk walk,
so it's three to two, bases loaded, and they bring
(25:07):
in our guy Tanner Scott and the only thing that
guy's good at is giving away leads, single up the middle.
Dodgers lose. This is not becoming of a championship team.
Something's broken. They seemingly fixed everything in one weekend with
the Padres and have been a broken team around that weekend.
I can't put my finger on it. I hate that.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
I just for perspective, I was talking to Matt during
the first inning after Jackson flied out deep in the
first inning, and because Matt went with work with Jackson
when they're in San Diego, and since you've seen his numbers,
and he was talking about how like it's just very
normal for a hitter, this is what happens in your
first real full season the Bigs whatever. And then to
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see that reward with that home run was huge. They
hit the home run and I stopped paying attention again,
and then they comeback win. That was I knew you
were going to Ryan give me yours that.
Speaker 14 (25:58):
You hated Philly, Karen, just because what blew my mind is, uh,
you're in Philly and no one checked her. I mean,
it's not like you're in some classy place.
Speaker 12 (26:12):
It was.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
It was in Florida. Yeah, they were just a lot
of Phillys.
Speaker 14 (26:17):
Even worse, you're in Florida, a lot of crazy people
out there, and no one checked her.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Really, what do you mean checked her?
Speaker 14 (26:24):
She took the ball from a kid?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Oh, I mean she was so entitled.
Speaker 14 (26:28):
Well exactly, someone needed to go over there and check her,
and and and no one said anything that this booter.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I actually think the dad was the one who's is
he's just got it.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Like no, no, if here's the rule, Okay, the rule
is the ball's hit at you, you don't catch the ball.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It's fair game.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Right, and and and I will also point out I
am not the guy. If you sit in a place
that might get to get you ball and you want
to bring a glove to game, it's literally the only
time in sports I would allow it.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Allow those things come off in rockets like you gotta
if you want to.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
But if you drop the ball like sorry, and then yes,
in the hierarchy of who gets the ball first, kids
before women before men, right, and the only thing that
can usurp all of those is if you served in
the military. Wait, I forgot hold on kids, elderly women,
men right, And again military probably ahead of both, but
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the military guys will almost all give it to the
kids elderly women.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Fair.
Speaker 10 (27:38):
It seems like the in sports, a fly ball at
a major I'm sorry, a foul ball or a home
run at a major league baseball field is like one
of the last things that's like, it's survival of the fittest.
It's a meritocracy. If you get the ball, you earn
the ball. And then you add the fact that it's
the guy's tenth or the kid's tenth birthday that he
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was giving the ball to. Everything worked out fine because
Harrison Bader the guy who hit the omron met the
kid afterwards and gave him a ball on a bat
and signed it and everything. And our girl Karen was
I guess doxed, and it was reported that she lost
her job. I don't think any of that's true. But anyways, Yeah,
that was that was amazing. Brought it up.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I get something I hated. Sorry, sorry, Dan, I'll get
you next. It wasn't that Oklahoma State got beat. It
wasn't even that they got beat sixty nine to three.
That's part of it. Two parts to it. First, I
hate the you get embarrassed like that, the lack of reality.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But you've got a fire.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Gundy Day's passed. But like, this is a whole new
world for them. They've never spent money and now they're
spending money. And I think it's pretty obvious. They didn't
spend money terribly wisely, and they had a backup quarterback
and this is what happens, right, But this is the
downside to the portal era. They had like fifteen practices
(28:59):
before they played a game. Now they played two games,
so you're talking like twenty practices in.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
There was no fight at all.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
They laid down, they got their absolute asses handed to
them and did not fight for one another. And what's
that because because they didn't go there because they give
a crap about Oklahoma State? They went there because they
gave a crap about a paycheck. Okay, if you haven't
figured out what's ruining college sports, and look, we sucked
(29:27):
last year, I can't. I can't put a pretty picture
on four and twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I just can't.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I know our kids fought with everything they had, and
they stuck together, and they played for one another, and
they played for the school. It's not perfect, hey, but
I can tell you that they fought. And the problem
with what's changed in college athletics is, in order to
get it going, you gotta go out and pay money
to players, and if you pay money to the wrong guys,
you get a bunch of turns. And that it doesn't
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show its head in a game when you're winning, it's
when you're losing, Like why fight? Like I'm still getting paid,
I don't care. Like these aren't my guys. I've been
here a couple of weeks. Go play somewhere else next year.
That mentality sucks, And like, look, do I think Oregon
ran it up?
Speaker 10 (30:14):
No?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
But Oregon taking special gleet, you're better. I just I
don't know Landings. There's a little dB in there that
he's a really good coach. They're an awesome team. Addson's
an amazing place. But like dude, when you're two ex
to spending, that's what happens.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Dan Byer, what do you got? I don't want to
follow that. I think that's a perfect way to end
love and hate.
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Speaker 2 (31:08):
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Speaker 1 (31:15):
Last night, Great night at Lambeau. Uh I mean, I
guess I got to ask Danbyer what he thinks of
the of the icy white Green Bay Packers. But I've
been a broadcaster obviously much longer than I've been a coach.
I've been in sports my entire life, and I there's
(31:37):
something that we haven't discussed a bunch, but it's a
real thing. I call it championship energy, right, Championship energy.
And I remember i've i've I went to Villanova's practices
usually like once a year. Jay Wright would let let
me in like once a year, sometimes when I was
doing a game, sometimes when I wasn't doing a game
or whatever. And the year they won their first championship,
(31:59):
I went to their just because I was calling a
Seat Hall game. They won down at the end of
at the end of the game against Seaton Hall, and
I remember turning to maybe their sid at the time,
and I said, like, does this feel different from different
than other years? And He's like, it does. I said
it does.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
To me too.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Now this is before they went out and started just
eviscerating people. Beat Oklahoma by what forty four points in
the semi finals, and obviously one on incredible Chris Jenkins
three point shot to beat North Carolina. So I'm not
going to tell you that at that very moment, at
that very moment, I knew this is going to be
(32:39):
a championship team. But when you are around teams that
have just kind of that right chemical mixture, it's no
different than when you're around couples. Right, when you're around
couples and they're dating, and you're like, how long guys
been together? Like too much? Like wow, you guys look
(33:01):
like you've been together for twenty years, when people with
twenty years usually don't care about each other. I'm kidding.
But the point is that you can field championship couples,
you can field championship teams. There's just a different field
to it. And maybe it's because, yes, I'm boots on
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the ground, I live in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Maybe it's
because I have gotten a chance to get to know
some of the coaches, some of the players, and I'm
drinking some of the kool aid. But in what was
an ugly game was not crazy competitive from the commander's perspective,
and anytime it was close, the backers like boards is
(33:44):
better than you. Here's Jordan Love talking about the win
and his defense after the game.
Speaker 14 (33:49):
Ten days in to this NFL season, you're two to
zero against divisional contenders.
Speaker 13 (33:54):
How did you do it tonight?
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Just team team victories right there, back to back. You know,
defense has been dominant, miss people down in offense, We've
been doing a great job putting up points and you know,
finishing these games off.
Speaker 10 (34:04):
But it's a great start to the season.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
We just gotta keep building on it.
Speaker 14 (34:06):
What impressed you most about the way your defense contained
Jaydan Daniels.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
The whole offense over there. That's a really good offense,
and just the way the defense been flying around. You know,
obviously we didn't get a turnover tonight, but they're hunting
that ball and they're flying around making.
Speaker 10 (34:19):
A lot of plays.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
So you hold a good offense like that eighteen points
and let us go go score.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
We're gonna win those games.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
It's a good football team. I don't think anybody would
argue I would say that it doesn't mean they're gonna
go to the Super Bowl. And lots of things can happen.
I mean, they had one of the best wide receivers
breaks his collar bone yet yesterday, right They injuries can
destroy it and you can get in a bad stretch
and what looks like what looks like Utopia can turn
on you. But that's a good football team. They whatever
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becomes of the Lions as they'll grow and evolve with
the new offensive coordinator, whatever becomes of the Commanders, as
you know, they want to know and dominate the Giants,
but it's been sloppy for them. They're very both both
very likely or supposed to be playoff teams, and neither
were within striking distance for more than a couple of
minutes in the second half. Right, and the only obvious
(35:16):
And it's early, not a dope eighteen week season. We're
not even two weeks through, but this feels like a
championship level roster and energy. Here's Micah Parsons. He sat
with the Amazon crew and talked about his acclamation to
a new team.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Talk to me about the process and how much time
you spent just learning to playbook and make me getting adjusted?
Speaker 13 (35:40):
Yeah, you know. First, as soon as I know the
trade happened, I was like, man, well you want me
to come in. I'm super ecstatic. And then the second
process is are you willing to come in early? Are
you willing to stay later? And I just think it's fun.
When I learned new things, I get like excited. When
the DC comes up to me, it was like, we're
excited to have you. I got so many ways I
want to use you, but you got to learn this.
I'm like, all right, we'll hurry up. So you know,
(36:00):
it just gets me excited. I'm extatic, and Jeff's a
hell of a play.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Time Jeff and Jeff Halfley. Here's Jade and Daniels talking
about the loss.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
They executed their scheme, whatever it was, they executed it
really well because they won the game and we just
didn't make plays. Starts with me, starts with everybody up front,
starts with the whole offensive skill group. So it's not
pointing a finger at anybody. Collectively, we're all to blame
and we'll get back to work.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Veteran guy, mature guy. He's only a second year, but
he just sounds like you're growing up. I don't know,
I still like Jayden Daniels. I walk away just incredibly
impressed with the energy of the Packers. Look it is
really and maybe some of that energy fades because the
trade was late in the preseason and so this is
you know, you got a chance to see him twice
(36:49):
in four days. Now kind of real work begins. Is
now he'll get a chance to get in complete football
shape and have complete working knowledge of what he's supposed
to do. But when you look at the Packers and
what's ahead of them schedule wise, and what it looks
like for him, I mean again, look this is they
(37:11):
have extra time off. Then they go to the Browns.
I mean, are the Browns good? I don't know, But
when you get three days extra prep and you're a
really good team, then they go to the Cowboys. That's good. Obviously,
that would be the Micah Parsons Bowl. Then you have
the week off Bengals at home at Cardinals at Steelers
which will be insane, Panthers Eagles at home that'll be insane,
(37:35):
to the Giants, and so on and so forth. We
move down the line, like I just you can't be
in a better position than two and zero one notable
injury and being feeling this good about yourself with this
amount of energy and not at least admit, yeah, look,
(37:56):
does that mean they go to and win a Super Bowl?
I don't know, but that felt like super Bowl energy,
much like great couples feel like they're going to make
it long term marital energy, much like college sports team
feels like championship energy. Byer, what did you think of
the other white uniforms? That's actually I wanted to ask
(38:19):
you the whole time on text, and I decided I'm
just gonna wait until the show.
Speaker 9 (38:22):
Okay, Well, I can weigh in on the Packers as
well if you'd like.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
But uniform, you are the official uniform connoisseur of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 9 (38:33):
Well, they wore these last year as well, and the
thing that a lot of us uniform lovers would have
liked to have seen which was missing was a yellow
stripe on the helmet. I think it's a really good
look for Green Bay, but the helmet almost just doesn't
look like it matches when the uniform has yellow stripes
down the side and on the sleeves of the jersey
(38:55):
and then it doesn't have one on the helmet. If
it would connect with the helmet, it would be a
really really good look. Kind of reminds me of when
the Lakers unveiled their white uniforms. They were so used
to the Lakers wearing purple and gold, and then all
of a sudden there was a white uniform and you're like, Wow,
that's really clean. That's a really good look. And I
feel that that's the same thing with these packer uniforms.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, I could use a little yet you'll use a
little yellow to pop. Use a little yellow pop, did
you I know it wasn't a terribly clean game. Do
you agree that it feels like a different energy there.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (39:25):
And I think that the Micah Parsons deal did that.
I can think there's a lot of reasons why if
you're a Green Bay you do that trade. Number one
is to get a player of that caliber and in
your window right now. But what it's also done, as
you said, it's put this energy into this fan base
that they haven't had before. I think it gives confidence
to your team, to your players, to say that, Wow,
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they think that we are ready to go. They think
that we are a super Bowl caliber and they're willing
to put it on the line for us. I thought
Green baysed corners last night against Washington were magnificent of
Valentine and Nick's in a great job in shutting down
Washington and Jaden Daniels and basically keeping him in check.
I mean, it was seemed like the zach Ertz Show
(40:09):
for a little while there. It was the only thing
that was going for for Washington. So that has the
trickle down effect and Doug schedules wise, they they were
given the favors. But I don't think that we can
over state what beating Detroit and Washington a team that
we thought that could contend for the or some thought
(40:29):
could contend for an NFC championship, maybe a Super Bowl
berth and then to beat the Lions, the team that's
kind of been your bugaboo for the last couple of years.
And to do both of those in relatively easy fashion.
I thought green Bay dominated both games. Yeah, really impressive
with green Bay.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, I just I the the beating alliance. Do people
know they had one divisional win last year and it
was basically was a botch kick by the by the
Bear like one divisional win. So now you have two wins,
granted both are at home, but against two very likely
playoff teams or what we if anybody was to be
(41:09):
a prognosticator, and I know Jase two we talked about
you know, predictions are really hard in this league. But
still you would say, like Lions commanders in the playoff.
Not a crazy surprise, those are big ones, but it
was it's the the cornerbacks are better because you have
somebody who you have less time to get rid of
the football because he's coming after you.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
And this is the team. By the way.
Speaker 9 (41:33):
That again was kind of at that stalemate which Air
Alexander and then ultimately just decided And I know that
went back further, but they end up just ultimately releasing him,
and those guys step up.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
They stepped up big last night.
Speaker 10 (41:47):
Can we give Buyer some credit?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Sure?
Speaker 10 (41:49):
Twenty four hours ago, Buyer in our first open of
the show here brought a stat to everybody's attention. Very
interesting stuff. I don't want to misrepresent it, Dan, but
I think it won along the lines of the Packers
quarterbacks and the history of their franchise that have won
Super Bowls, all cashed in on their twenty seventh year
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they were twenty seven. Somebody with the Amazon production obviously
was listening. They had that front and center with a
stupid cartoon during the show. So credit to Dan Bayer
for doing the homework of the Amazon producers.
Speaker 9 (42:31):
I think it was just a storyline, especially in the
most recent window of Farvaran Rodgers. Those were the two quarterbacks,
and the one super Bowl that they won happened to
be when they were twenty seven. Jordan Love, yes turns
twenty seven this year, does so in November, and when
if the Packers make it to the Super Bowl, he'll
be twenty seven at that time, So it's all there
for him in a team that's a super Bowl caliber
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And now you just wonder, gosh, if they're better than
the Eagles, then they're the best team in the NFC,
because they showed they're better than the Lions and command
right now. Pretty impressive. But twenty seven was the magic number.
Part Star was twenty seven as well. I didn't even
include that in the stat
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you download podcast. We got one week of NFL games
in the books, and it culminated with I thought it
was a good watch, interesting game last night Soldier Field,
(00:44):
where yeah, the Inner Green Bay resident in me wants
to say, well, the Bears still suck, right, But there's
a lot more to it than that. I think. Here's
the part that here's the part that I know as
(01:07):
a coach. I believed I knew beforehand, but it became
even more apparent as time went on, and it was
apparent watching Ben Johnson, who I thought had his team ready,
had him team prepped, you know, so like part of
(01:29):
the big part of coaching, you know, is one you
got to have not just the right system, but the
right talent for the right system. Sometimes that takes a
little bit of time. Two you got to have a
great plan, and three you gotta have the players prepared,
prepared for what the other team plans, so they can
counterattack or counter whatever they're trying to do right count
(01:55):
whatever they try to do. So I thought Ben Johnson's
team was well prepared. I thought they were pretty focused.
Defense got him a tuddy offense, could you know, solid
first drive with a couple of plays where they broke
off of script. And despite the fact their offense had
(02:16):
gone meh for basically two and a half other quarters,
they were still in pole position, prime position to win
a game. That's when the Vikings woke up. They're essentially
rookie quarterback JJ McCarthy started gaining confidence and make plays.
And that's also when you know, Flores kind of cranked
(02:36):
up the pressure on the Bears, and the Bears sort
of wilted under that pressure. They did score a touchdown late,
did have a chance to either kick an on sidekick
or get the football back if they kicked it. Out
of bounce. They did neither, and the game expires and
they lose the game without much of an opportunity to
get the football back with just one timeout and the
two minute warning having expired on the kickoff. But people
(03:01):
ask all the time, like, what did you learn? Well,
I don't know if I learned it or I already
knew it. But the hardest thing to do in coaching
is teaching a team how to win, right, Because you
can take them to the water, but man, you just
can't make them drink. You can open up their mouth,
pour it in close their mouth, but they don't always
(03:24):
swallow and actually drink that water. And when you come
into organizations which are used to winning and what's used
to losing those games, it's really hard to turn around
the narrative. That's honestly what Jim Harbaugh does best. Right, So,
what Jim Harbaugh does best, he finds a way to
(03:47):
create a culture where winning is expected, and even with
guys that haven't necessarily done it yet or done it before,
they do it at the NFL level. And I'm watching
last night with the Bears, and from I mean Caleb Williams,
you can't have a grounding penalty. There if you don't
(04:10):
have a grounding penalty, if you just throw the ball away,
or even if you eat the football going down, you're
in better field goal range. You don't miss the field goal,
and the Vikings never come back and take a lead. So, yeah,
Caleb Williams missed some throws. Caleb Williams looked overwhelmed against
(04:31):
against some of the pressure late Caleb Williams does it
does look like it takes a while to load up
and get rid of that football. And he's not exceptionally big.
There's some things he does really really well. But Caleb
Williams is he's more the symptom than the problem, and
the symptom is it's a symptom of the greater thing,
(04:53):
which is the Bears don't know how to win those
games and the Vikings do. And you could even say
that's what JJ McCarthy does, right, I wouldn't combined his
college record, his pro record when he's at Michigan really well, coached,
great team, win a national championship, all that's good. But
I mean it's a different sport at different level. But
(05:13):
there is a part to me that says, you know,
there's a reason this guy is thirty eight and one
is now thirty nine. Starts winners win, They just find
a way. And last night the Vikings found away. Last
night the Bears did not. That's really as kind of
simple as as you can put it. Last night the
Vikings found away and the Bears did not. And because
(05:36):
of it, you know, we're left with Okay, So is
JJ McCarthy out good when he was bad the first
three quarters? Is Killer Williams bad when he was good
in the first quarter? I don't know. But my takeaway
from last night is that Ben Johnson, his first game
as the head coach, had his team mentally and physically
(05:56):
prepared and in the right head and they play. They
played really well in the first half on in some stretches,
especially the defensive side the football. But it fell apart
late because he has not yet figured out or they
have not yet been able to understand how they need
to learn how to win, because they do not. They
(06:17):
do not. This is JJ McCarthy, who's the quarterback obviously
the Vikings talking about adversity that we.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Gotta believe, you know, that's one thing that we can
do is control the controllables in our belief and you know,
going out there and executing that next play. And you
know it's as simple as that. We got a great
group and everyone was on the same page with that.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Gotta believe, you know, you gotta find guys that buy in.
You gotta find the right fit. Here's Kevin O'Connell, head
coach of the Vikings, talking about JJ's JJ's night.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
It's not always going to be pretty when you're trying
to bring along a young quarterback. You just got to
keep playing and you got to allow, you know, him
to grow. There was a lot of just things we
can improve on and we will be great to be
home for a couple of weeks. All in all, I'm
very proud of our team, very proud of our staff,
and just that figured out in this and find a
way is something that will be a redeeming quality as
(07:08):
we continue to press on. Where JJ McCarthy. For him
to make some of the plays he did, I told
him at halftime, you are going to bring us back
to win this game, and the look in his eye
was fantastic. And the best thing is just a belief
I felt from the team, the unit, and ultimately that
doesn't get done without him in the second half, two
passing touchdowns and then the critical rushing touchdown.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Here's Call Williams summoning up their loss.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
That mentality is something that we have, something that we
you know, that we preach, and that didn't happen today.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
And I'm not it's not.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
A play call thing. It's not anything like that. It's
just being able to go out there and execute the
players that are called and be able to you know,
execut him at a high level. I mean, that's something
that that we take pride in, and you know, today
that didn't happen, and we're going to get back to it.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Gonna gonna get back to it. Got to get back
to trying to win, trying to win games. Yeah, well,
I just think Kevin O'Connell's outright belief and the ability
to get guys to believe and you have a team
that has won some Here's Peyton and Eli on the
Manning cast talking about why you kick off out of
bounds before the two minute warning. But by the way,
(08:17):
I thought everybody knew.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
You're thinking that maybe Chicio should just kick the ball
out of bounds, kick it out of bounds fort and
take the penalty.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Take the penalty. It's on the forty. You always love that.
And now you still got the time time out and
the two minute warning.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You say, yeah, you get to take any time, get
a time out out of bound for you get to
stop the inZone. Right, you get the ball with a
minute and ten seconds left. Yes, yes, it was I
think actually fifty eight seconds what they would go. Here's
Ben Johnson talking about Cairo Santos kicking it into the
end zone instead of kicking it out of bounds.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
The intent was for the ball to go out of
the end zone. Was there, do you guys consider I'd say.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Kick, Yeah, it did.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
We felt like if we'd have kicked it out of
the end zone and gotten the three and out that
we got, we would get the ball back with around
fifty six seconds.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
There you go, There you go. So I again, the
question is the question you have to ask is what
specifically did he say to Kyro Santos? Did he say
kick it out of bounds or kick it to where
they can't return it. It has to be a touchback
(09:28):
right again, Like you sit there and go like, wait,
Kyro Santos is not a rookie kicker. I understand kicking
rules had changed and obviously Cayrosantos either didn't know. I
mean he can kick in the ball out about it
and if you can't kick it out of the back
of the end zone, then kick it out the sideline
where they get the forty. But those are just the
little things. Does it mean the Bears would have won
the game?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Does it mean they absolute would have gotten the ball back? No,
But you in order to put yourself in position where
you get every opportunity to win, you have to kick
the ball at a bouncer, and they did not.
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iHeartRadio app Welcome in. I hope you're having a great day,
maybe the greatest day you've ever had in your entire life.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
What if that happened today?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Today was the greatest day in your life?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Could be Ryan, You're just like your Debbie Downer. Don't
be a no, just being honest. Okay, Okay, my boy
Jay Stu in the house.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So I'm just gonna put this out there real quick
before we get to what we want to get to
in this part of the show. I've just been told
that Buyer and Jay Stu are headed to Buffalo for
Dolphin's bills.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Is that correct? That's correct?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Okay, Now I don't know. I'm without looking, I don't
know if we're on in Buffalo. I'm sure we're on
somewhere close to Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So here's the deal. I've sent out some texts.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I have very high level of confidence that between Tom
to LESCo, who we just had on, who's from Buffalo
originally like hometown, and between my other connections in the
NFL and Thursday Night Football, I'll see some of those people.
A couple of TNF people owe me a favor that
I'll be able to get you tickets what I need. Great,
(11:19):
that's not what I need. I need Bill's mafia to
take care of these two guys. Because Dan wants to
go to what's name in the stadium.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
High Mark Stadium, what was it originally called?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
When we're Richfield, Richfield, rich Rich Dan wants to go
and see the stadium before they bulldoze the stadium.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Right that, Yes, that's the only yes. What's the other
part to it? No, that that is the only reason.
Speaker 9 (11:45):
Buffalo is one of the few cities that also well
the other reason would be Buffalo is one of the
few cities in the United States, like major cities I've
never been to, so I would like to see what
Buffalo is like.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Dated that game is what?
Speaker 9 (11:57):
It's a week from Thursday? Yes, okay, so well was seventeenth?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
The seventeenth? Noted seventeenth? Is that it? Is it the eighteenth?
Jay eighteenth eighty eight? Okay eighteenth? Ironically, I'll be here,
I'm here, you're there.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
It's a big junior college eventward, some recruiting in California
that that that Friday. Anyway, So here's what I need. Okay,
Dan Byer, please give your Twitter handle.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
At Dan Bayer on Fox. Jay Su please give your
Twitter handle.
Speaker 10 (12:30):
At Jason Stewart as it's spelled ew yep.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
At Jason Stewart Okay, and you can include me at
Gottlieb Show if you'd like. If you don't like, this
does not involve me. This involves there's zero doubt in
my mind that some member of Bill's Mafia is listening
to the show. And whether they member remember Jay Stu
from back in the old Rome days, okay, or they're
just an avid listener, or you listen to Dan on weekends,
or you download is I want your Flex podcast? Nice
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little plug there, or you're just listening to the DG Show,
or you're just a dude. Okay, you can't have Dan
Byer come and say this is the final stop on
my I've seen every city tour and going to.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Uh, what is it? Save Mark Kimark Stadium.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Okay, and see the Buffalo Bills and not hang out
with Bill's Mafia fair.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
That's like going to Manhattan and not going in to
see a show. That's like coming to la and not
seeing a homeless person. It's not part of the trip.
You haven't made the full trip. It's like my brother
says this. My brother used to have a joke. I
don't know if this joke. He's like, you haven't been
to It's not really a trip to Mexico unless you've
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seen something on fire, three legged dog, and somebody selling
your cheek lay at the border, right, And if you've
been to Mexico, you're like, yeah, it's all three of
those things. Good, you had a Mexico trip. Otherwise you
just went to a resort. A real Mexico trip is
something on fire, three legged dog, somebody selling your cheek ley.
I'll alternate oranges as well where you get sold oranges.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yes, there is.
Speaker 9 (14:01):
Something about this stadium and I even think when you
look back at the eighties and nineties when we grew
up watching football, it was a different look. It just
it doesn't look like in NFL stadium and that's why
I love it. And now they've got their new stadium
that will probably look like a lot of others. It'll
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have all the bells and whistles, the whole deal. But
there's just been something unique about this. The camera angle
is always super low on TV, which I think that
makes it even more intriguing when you're watching it. But
I just wanted to see a game. This is probably
for at least a decade, I've wanted to go, and
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now time is running out and it's now forcing my hand.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so
can we hook these guys up? Please hook these guys up.
They need to be shown the greatest Thursday night experience
in b flow history. This is on you, Bills Mafia.
Don't say you're don't say this is a great place,
and not show our guys a good time. Jason Stewart,
Dan Bayer, find them on social media and connect with them,
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and you guys keep me updated as to the connections.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Let's get to love and hate.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
What did you love?
Speaker 10 (15:17):
God?
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I love you?
Speaker 8 (15:18):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Meet these player haters?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
What'd you love from the weekend? What'd you hate from
the weekend? Ryan, You're gonna have to find something nice
to say. That's part of love. Let's start with that
resident at level boy, Dan Byer, what'd you.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Love in the weekend?
Speaker 9 (15:36):
Well, I'll tell you what. It was quite the experience
that I had on Saturday night. My wife and I
talking about looking forward to things ever since we found
out that Oasis was reuniting. I had been looking forward
to going to see their show, and we are lucky
enough living in southern California. Then in one of their
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five US stops show in Chicago, two and New York
and to in LA that I was able to attend
one of them. So Saturday night, my wife and I
saw Oasis Live twenty five the reunion tour, and it
was everything everything that I expected and so much more.
It was just it was great. It was hit after hit,
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absolutely love the atmosphere rose bol was packed. It was
just it was amazing and it was such an energy.
One of those concerts where you're still thinking about it
and talking about it a day later. Two days later,
you're still listening to the music. So that's what I
love from this weekend was checking out Oasis and seeing
Oasis on Saturday night.
Speaker 10 (16:42):
So those guys packed the Rose Bowl. Yes, after being
completely gone for thirty years? Is that how long?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
It's not that long, Probably about fifteen or so.
Speaker 10 (16:51):
Oh okayes Man, and you were very familiar with their
catalog going in, Yes, Okay, I'm not. I think I
know the very high level couple hits.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's one of the weirdest things ever. I mean, genius marketing.
But I would agree. Like I flew out here from
Nashville right went to wedding on the weekend on Friday,
and there was people coming in for the concert from
Nashville like Oasis, and I was like, is I missed
the I missed the Oasis was that big. But they
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have whatever, whether it's not touring, whether they become more
popular in the time since they actually whatever it.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Is, it's kind of crazy crazy.
Speaker 9 (17:34):
It's just it's a great song after great song, and
I think that they're dynamic and them as brothers is
something that is so captivating.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Didn't know their brothers? You didn't know Liam and Nole
were brothers. No, you knew that, right, Jason.
Speaker 10 (17:48):
I knew that. I knew they hated each other for many.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
Y Yeah, because that's so much about the story of
and why they weren't and why they weren't together.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
It was that they were brothers. Liam's the younger brother.
Speaker 9 (17:59):
And it was just it was magnificent. Paul McCartney, oddly
enough attended the attended the show on Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
It was just great.
Speaker 9 (18:09):
It was eighty thousand people just having the time of
their lives and people were flying in because they've said
and they this may be wrong, but I would say
this last name, Yeah, this is this is not that
they're getting together, And maybe they will be because they
are on good terms right now. Even Liam's always trying
to hug Nol. But there were only five shows in
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the States.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
It wasn't like.
Speaker 9 (18:32):
They're gonna go to San Diego this week and then
the next weekend they're up in Seattle, then they'll hit Denver,
then they'll go down to Texas and play Dallas and Houston. No,
it was Chicago, two nights in New York, two nights
in LA. Then they'll go to Mexico City, they'll go
to Asia and Australia, and they've got some couple of
shows in South America, like three shows in South America
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in November, and then that's the tour.
Speaker 11 (18:55):
And is it tonight as well? No, it was last
night Saturday Sunday. Yeah, it just came up on my memory.
So six years ago, this September, I went to see
the Stones for the first time at the Rose Bowl.
I have a logistics question for you. Where did you
park and how much of a pain in the ass
was it to get out of the park?
Speaker 9 (19:15):
We were so early, we were there at five thirty.
Oasis didn't get on until eight forty five. It was
easy as pie. We were pretty close, we were close
to the We parked on the golf course. We were
actually close to the clubhouse, so we didn't have far
to walk. And yeah, just I mean a little bit,
but when you have eighty thousand people, a little bit
of a delay to get out. But it wasn't it
wasn't a headache at all.
Speaker 10 (19:35):
Good for you.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, it worked. Out well.
Speaker 10 (19:39):
Okay, So Aaron Rodgers I mentioned last week, it's a
story that I'm following the closest this season. I'm interested
to see how he does. He beat the Jets at
the Jets, I wasn't very interested in this revenge angle.
I don't think there's enough. There wasn't enough time spent
there for there to be a major revenge I do
know that there was that reported incident or exchange between
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him and the Jets new head coach where Aaron Rodgers
flew across the country only to be told we don't
need you. He addressed it after the game last night.
Speaker 12 (20:14):
You spoke about the meeting with Alan Glenn on McAfee
a few months ago. Beating him is your significance in
that sense.
Speaker 13 (20:21):
He basically told you to your face that he.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Didn't think you were.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Right for that team.
Speaker 12 (20:26):
Yes, that's what he did. So there are significance in
beating him for you. I was happy to beat everybody
associated with the Jets. It was nice to win, especially,
you know, hearing some of the cat calls out there
and the Bluebirds. You know, I don't I'm not sensitive
about that. I expected that, you know, I kind of
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liked that, but there were probably people in the organization
I didn't think I could play anymore, so it was
nice to remind those people that I still can.
Speaker 10 (20:56):
Four touchdowns, no interceptions the Steelers one on a Boswell.
I want to say, what sixty year old sixty yard
field goal. It was a very entertaining game to watch
for a couple of reasons, but one of them was
the old man won, and I'm rooting for him, so
it was great to say. I love saying that.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
What are the other reasons?
Speaker 10 (21:18):
Because Justin Fields looked great and I wish I had
Justin Fields on my fantasy team. He's fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, No, I mean that was interesting.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Also, huge fumble and special teams in the Jets. Gigantic
fumble and special teams in the Jets. Ryan, what you
got well?
Speaker 14 (21:33):
Anything to do with the Boston area. I despise Doug
So me being a Raiders fan who's still upset over
the tuck rule, it made me grin from ear to
ear that my Raiders beat the Patriots. I don't like
Josh McDaniels. I don't know why he keeps getting job opportunities.
He sucks, And I just love the fact that Pete
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Carroll seventy plus years old. They go into New England
and they beat the Patriots. That's what I love.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
Raid raid is, raid is.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, it was good Win. I'll tell you what I
loved was the green back Packers looked like a CHAMPIONIP team.
They just did and was the offense lights out? Like no,
like Detroit is still good. Detroit seems to lack whatever
that special something they had had. And we'll like, like
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we're being fair. Week one is hard. New coordinator, some
some different pieces from last year, but Micah Parsons did
not play a ton of snaps and they still dominated
the Lions. Now if you can start out too and
oh at home Lions and Commanders on Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Now you're cooking. Now you're cooking.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
And for the most part, I think they had one
possible injury going to yesterday. But the Packers it just
felt and looked different. Maybe it was that the Lions
weren't ready, maybe that the Lions it hadn't played enough
in the new system. But I think a lot of
it was there's just an energy to this Packers team
which feels like Super Bowl energy. I could be wrong,
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because I've been following the Chargers for so long, I
haven't seen Super Bowl energy felt that way. All right,
let's get to what we hated from the weekend. A
resident hater although that we have two with you and Ryan,
but let's start with you, Jaysuo.
Speaker 10 (23:36):
So since Sam isn't here today, I feel kind of
compelled to sam up my hate because three things I
really hated this weekend, I couldn't stand them. But I
won't do it. I won't sam it up, but I
will mention that. I won't mention that Pat Mahomes acting
like he's going out of bounds and then laying a
blow on our cornerback with the Chargers. I thought that
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was Bushley and the Kara Swisher Elizabeth Warren look alike
who stole the ball from the ten year old kid
on Saturday night. That I hated too, for many reasons
we'll get into in the podcast. Okay, but something that
happened Saturday night, that's a new woe. And I know
Dan Byer, I already nobody's going to say to this. Yeah,
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it's really easy to complain. You're in first place, you're
the defending world champions, you'll probably win the division for
the next ten years. But this Dodgers team has been
particularly annoying, has been particularly frustrating, and it reached a
new woe on Saturday night. Our pitcher was throwing a
no hitter, two outs in the ninth inning, two outs,
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one out away from a no hitter for Yamamoto. Your
guy Jackson Holiday ruined that hits a solo home run
to make it three to one. So we're like, okay, cool,
three to one, we still got the game, right, No, No,
let's bring in Blake Ryan double hit a guy walk walk,
so it's three to two, bases loaded, and they bring
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in our guy Tanner Scott and the only thing that
guy's good at is giving away leads, single up the middle.
Dodgers lose. This is not becoming of a championship team.
Something's broken. They seemingly fixed everything in one weekend with
the Padres and have been a broken team around that weekend.
I can't put my finger on it. I hate that.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
I just for perspective, I was talking to Matt during
the first inning after Jackson flied out deep in the
first inning, and because Matt went with work with Jackson
when they're in San Diego, and since you've seen his numbers,
and he was talking about how like it's just very
normal for a hitter, this is what happens in your
first real full season the Bigs whatever. And then to
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see that reward with that home run was huge. They
hit the home run and I stopped paying attention again,
and then they comeback win. That was I knew you
were going to Ryan give me yours that.
Speaker 14 (25:58):
You hated Philly, Karen, just because what blew my mind is, uh,
you're in Philly and no one checked her. I mean,
it's not like you're in some classy place.
Speaker 12 (26:12):
It was.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
It was in Florida. Yeah, they were just a lot
of Phillys.
Speaker 14 (26:17):
Even worse, you're in Florida, a lot of crazy people
out there, and no one checked her.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Really, what do you mean checked her?
Speaker 14 (26:24):
She took the ball from a kid?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Oh, I mean she was so entitled.
Speaker 14 (26:28):
Well exactly, someone needed to go over there and check her,
and and and no one said anything that this booter.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I actually think the dad was the one who's is
he's just got it.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Like no, no, if here's the rule, Okay, the rule
is the ball's hit at you, you don't catch the ball.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
It's fair game.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Right, and and and I will also point out I
am not the guy. If you sit in a place
that might get to get you ball and you want
to bring a glove to game, it's literally the only
time in sports I would allow it.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Allow those things come off in rockets like you gotta
if you want to.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
But if you drop the ball like sorry, and then yes,
in the hierarchy of who gets the ball first, kids
before women before men, right, and the only thing that
can usurp all of those is if you served in
the military. Wait, I forgot hold on kids, elderly women,
men right, And again military probably ahead of both, but
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the military guys will almost all give it to the
kids elderly women.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Fair.
Speaker 10 (27:38):
It seems like the in sports, a fly ball at
a major I'm sorry, a foul ball or a home
run at a major league baseball field is like one
of the last things that's like, it's survival of the fittest.
It's a meritocracy. If you get the ball, you earn
the ball. And then you add the fact that it's
the guy's tenth or the kid's tenth birthday that he
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was giving the ball to. Everything worked out fine because
Harrison Bader the guy who hit the omron met the
kid afterwards and gave him a ball on a bat
and signed it and everything. And our girl Karen was
I guess doxed, and it was reported that she lost
her job. I don't think any of that's true. But anyways, Yeah,
that was that was amazing. Brought it up.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I get something I hated. Sorry, sorry, Dan, I'll get
you next. It wasn't that Oklahoma State got beat. It
wasn't even that they got beat sixty nine to three.
That's part of it. Two parts to it. First, I
hate the you get embarrassed like that, the lack of reality.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But you've got a fire.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Gundy Day's passed. But like, this is a whole new
world for them. They've never spent money and now they're
spending money. And I think it's pretty obvious. They didn't
spend money terribly wisely, and they had a backup quarterback
and this is what happens, right, But this is the
downside to the portal era. They had like fifteen practices
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before they played a game. Now they played two games,
so you're talking like twenty practices in.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
There was no fight at all.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
They laid down, they got their absolute asses handed to
them and did not fight for one another. And what's
that because because they didn't go there because they give
a crap about Oklahoma State? They went there because they
gave a crap about a paycheck. Okay, if you haven't
figured out what's ruining college sports, and look, we sucked
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last year, I can't. I can't put a pretty picture
on four and twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I just can't.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I know our kids fought with everything they had, and
they stuck together, and they played for one another, and
they played for the school. It's not perfect, hey, but
I can tell you that they fought. And the problem
with what's changed in college athletics is, in order to
get it going, you gotta go out and pay money
to players, and if you pay money to the wrong guys,
you get a bunch of turns. And that it doesn't
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show its head in a game when you're winning, it's
when you're losing, Like why fight? Like I'm still getting paid,
I don't care. Like these aren't my guys. I've been
here a couple of weeks. Go play somewhere else next year.
That mentality sucks, And like, look, do I think Oregon
ran it up?
Speaker 10 (30:14):
No?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
But Oregon taking special gleet, you're better. I just I
don't know Landings. There's a little dB in there that
he's a really good coach. They're an awesome team. Addson's
an amazing place. But like dude, when you're two ex
to spending, that's what happens.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Dan Byer, what do you got? I don't want to
follow that. I think that's a perfect way to end
love and hate.
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Speaker 2 (31:08):
Boom X boom. Uh, let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Last night, Great night at Lambeau. Uh I mean, I
guess I got to ask Danbyer what he thinks of
the of the icy white Green Bay Packers. But I've
been a broadcaster obviously much longer than I've been a coach.
I've been in sports my entire life, and I there's
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something that we haven't discussed a bunch, but it's a
real thing. I call it championship energy, right, Championship energy.
And I remember i've i've I went to Villanova's practices
usually like once a year. Jay Wright would let let
me in like once a year, sometimes when I was
doing a game, sometimes when I wasn't doing a game
or whatever. And the year they won their first championship,
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I went to their just because I was calling a
Seat Hall game. They won down at the end of
at the end of the game against Seaton Hall, and
I remember turning to maybe their sid at the time,
and I said, like, does this feel different from different
than other years? And He's like, it does. I said
it does.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
To me too.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Now this is before they went out and started just
eviscerating people. Beat Oklahoma by what forty four points in
the semi finals, and obviously one on incredible Chris Jenkins
three point shot to beat North Carolina. So I'm not
going to tell you that at that very moment, at
that very moment, I knew this is going to be
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a championship team. But when you are around teams that
have just kind of that right chemical mixture, it's no
different than when you're around couples. Right, when you're around
couples and they're dating, and you're like, how long guys
been together? Like too much? Like wow, you guys look
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like you've been together for twenty years, when people with
twenty years usually don't care about each other. I'm kidding.
But the point is that you can field championship couples,
you can field championship teams. There's just a different field
to it. And maybe it's because, yes, I'm boots on
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the ground, I live in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Maybe it's
because I have gotten a chance to get to know
some of the coaches, some of the players, and I'm
drinking some of the kool aid. But in what was
an ugly game was not crazy competitive from the commander's perspective,
and anytime it was close, the backers like boards is
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better than you. Here's Jordan Love talking about the win
and his defense after the game.
Speaker 14 (33:49):
Ten days in to this NFL season, you're two to
zero against divisional contenders.
Speaker 13 (33:54):
How did you do it tonight?
Speaker 7 (33:55):
Just team team victories right there, back to back. You know,
defense has been dominant, miss people down in offense, We've
been doing a great job putting up points and you know,
finishing these games off.
Speaker 10 (34:04):
But it's a great start to the season.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
We just gotta keep building on it.
Speaker 14 (34:06):
What impressed you most about the way your defense contained
Jaydan Daniels.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
The whole offense over there. That's a really good offense,
and just the way the defense been flying around. You know,
obviously we didn't get a turnover tonight, but they're hunting
that ball and they're flying around making.
Speaker 10 (34:19):
A lot of plays.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
So you hold a good offense like that eighteen points
and let us go go score.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
We're gonna win those games.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
It's a good football team. I don't think anybody would
argue I would say that it doesn't mean they're gonna
go to the Super Bowl. And lots of things can happen.
I mean, they had one of the best wide receivers
breaks his collar bone yet yesterday, right They injuries can
destroy it and you can get in a bad stretch
and what looks like what looks like Utopia can turn
on you. But that's a good football team. They whatever
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becomes of the Lions as they'll grow and evolve with
the new offensive coordinator, whatever becomes of the Commanders, as
you know, they want to know and dominate the Giants,
but it's been sloppy for them. They're very both both
very likely or supposed to be playoff teams, and neither
were within striking distance for more than a couple of
minutes in the second half. Right, and the only obvious
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And it's early, not a dope eighteen week season. We're
not even two weeks through, but this feels like a
championship level roster and energy. Here's Micah Parsons. He sat
with the Amazon crew and talked about his acclamation to
a new team.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Talk to me about the process and how much time
you spent just learning to playbook and make me getting adjusted?
Speaker 13 (35:40):
Yeah, you know. First, as soon as I know the
trade happened, I was like, man, well you want me
to come in. I'm super ecstatic. And then the second
process is are you willing to come in early? Are
you willing to stay later? And I just think it's fun.
When I learned new things, I get like excited. When
the DC comes up to me, it was like, we're
excited to have you. I got so many ways I
want to use you, but you got to learn this.
I'm like, all right, we'll hurry up. So you know,
(36:00):
it just gets me excited. I'm extatic, and Jeff's a
hell of a play.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Time Jeff and Jeff Halfley. Here's Jade and Daniels talking
about the loss.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
They executed their scheme, whatever it was, they executed it
really well because they won the game and we just
didn't make plays. Starts with me, starts with everybody up front,
starts with the whole offensive skill group. So it's not
pointing a finger at anybody. Collectively, we're all to blame
and we'll get back to work.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Veteran guy, mature guy. He's only a second year, but
he just sounds like you're growing up. I don't know,
I still like Jayden Daniels. I walk away just incredibly
impressed with the energy of the Packers. Look it is
really and maybe some of that energy fades because the
trade was late in the preseason and so this is
you know, you got a chance to see him twice
(36:49):
in four days. Now kind of real work begins. Is
now he'll get a chance to get in complete football
shape and have complete working knowledge of what he's supposed
to do. But when you look at the Packers and
what's ahead of them schedule wise, and what it looks
like for him, I mean again, look this is they
(37:11):
have extra time off. Then they go to the Browns.
I mean, are the Browns good? I don't know, But
when you get three days extra prep and you're a
really good team, then they go to the Cowboys. That's good. Obviously,
that would be the Micah Parsons Bowl. Then you have
the week off Bengals at home at Cardinals at Steelers
which will be insane, Panthers Eagles at home that'll be insane,
(37:35):
to the Giants, and so on and so forth. We
move down the line, like I just you can't be
in a better position than two and zero one notable
injury and being feeling this good about yourself with this
amount of energy and not at least admit, yeah, look,
(37:56):
does that mean they go to and win a Super Bowl?
I don't know, but that felt like super Bowl energy,
much like great couples feel like they're going to make
it long term marital energy, much like college sports team
feels like championship energy. Byer, what did you think of
the other white uniforms? That's actually I wanted to ask
(38:19):
you the whole time on text, and I decided I'm
just gonna wait until the show.
Speaker 9 (38:22):
Okay, Well, I can weigh in on the Packers as
well if you'd like.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
But uniform, you are the official uniform connoisseur of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 9 (38:33):
Well, they wore these last year as well, and the
thing that a lot of us uniform lovers would have
liked to have seen which was missing was a yellow
stripe on the helmet. I think it's a really good
look for Green Bay, but the helmet almost just doesn't
look like it matches when the uniform has yellow stripes
down the side and on the sleeves of the jersey
(38:55):
and then it doesn't have one on the helmet. If
it would connect with the helmet, it would be a
really really good look. Kind of reminds me of when
the Lakers unveiled their white uniforms. They were so used
to the Lakers wearing purple and gold, and then all
of a sudden there was a white uniform and you're like, Wow,
that's really clean. That's a really good look. And I
feel that that's the same thing with these packer uniforms.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Yeah, I could use a little yet you'll use a
little yellow to pop. Use a little yellow pop, did
you I know it wasn't a terribly clean game. Do
you agree that it feels like a different energy there.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (39:25):
And I think that the Micah Parsons deal did that.
I can think there's a lot of reasons why if
you're a Green Bay you do that trade. Number one
is to get a player of that caliber and in
your window right now. But what it's also done, as
you said, it's put this energy into this fan base
that they haven't had before. I think it gives confidence
to your team, to your players, to say that, Wow,
(39:47):
they think that we are ready to go. They think
that we are a super Bowl caliber and they're willing
to put it on the line for us. I thought
Green baysed corners last night against Washington were magnificent of
Valentine and Nick's in a great job in shutting down
Washington and Jaden Daniels and basically keeping him in check.
I mean, it was seemed like the zach Ertz Show
(40:09):
for a little while there. It was the only thing
that was going for for Washington. So that has the
trickle down effect and Doug schedules wise, they they were
given the favors. But I don't think that we can
over state what beating Detroit and Washington a team that
we thought that could contend for the or some thought
(40:29):
could contend for an NFC championship, maybe a Super Bowl
berth and then to beat the Lions, the team that's
kind of been your bugaboo for the last couple of years.
And to do both of those in relatively easy fashion.
I thought green Bay dominated both games. Yeah, really impressive
with green Bay.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, I just I the the beating alliance. Do people
know they had one divisional win last year and it
was basically was a botch kick by the by the
Bear like one divisional win. So now you have two wins,
granted both are at home, but against two very likely
playoff teams or what we if anybody was to be
(41:09):
a prognosticator, and I know Jase two we talked about
you know, predictions are really hard in this league. But
still you would say, like Lions commanders in the playoff.
Not a crazy surprise, those are big ones, but it
was it's the the cornerbacks are better because you have
somebody who you have less time to get rid of
the football because he's coming after you.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
And this is the team. By the way.
Speaker 9 (41:33):
That again was kind of at that stalemate which Air
Alexander and then ultimately just decided And I know that
went back further, but they end up just ultimately releasing him,
and those guys step up.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
They stepped up big last night.
Speaker 10 (41:47):
Can we give Buyer some credit?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Sure?
Speaker 10 (41:49):
Twenty four hours ago, Buyer in our first open of
the show here brought a stat to everybody's attention. Very
interesting stuff. I don't want to misrepresent it, Dan, but
I think it won along the lines of the Packers
quarterbacks and the history of their franchise that have won
Super Bowls, all cashed in on their twenty seventh year
(42:13):
they were twenty seven. Somebody with the Amazon production obviously
was listening. They had that front and center with a
stupid cartoon during the show. So credit to Dan Bayer
for doing the homework of the Amazon producers.
Speaker 9 (42:31):
I think it was just a storyline, especially in the
most recent window of Farvaran Rodgers. Those were the two quarterbacks,
and the one super Bowl that they won happened to
be when they were twenty seven. Jordan Love, yes turns
twenty seven this year, does so in November, and when
if the Packers make it to the Super Bowl, he'll
be twenty seven at that time, So it's all there
for him in a team that's a super Bowl caliber
(42:52):
And now you just wonder, gosh, if they're better than
the Eagles, then they're the best team in the NFC,
because they showed they're better than the Lions and command
right now. Pretty impressive. But twenty seven was the magic number.
Part Star was twenty seven as well. I didn't even
include that in the stat
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