November 1, 2025 • 43 mins
In this edition of The Best Of The Week Of The Doug Gottlieb Show...Doug talks about Brian Kelly as LSU has decided to fire him as their head football coach midway through the season.
Doug and the crew share their thoughts on the wild game 3 of the World Series that saw the Dodgers walk off the Blue Jays in 18 innings.
Doug weighs in on the news that the Dolphins and GM Chris Grier have parted ways, and takes aim at Stephen A Smith for his opinion on it.
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
We're going over twenty years now and we got a
lot to get to.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The Packers come from behind and end up smacking the
Steelers late last night. We'll talk about that during the show.
Tom Telesco, former GM of the Chargers and Raiders, will
join us this hour. You'll hear what we loved, what
we hated from this weekend in sports, and it was
a full sports weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Wait to you what Jerry Jones said about his defense tonight.
I actually agree with him.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
By agree with him, got a lot to get to.
World Series Game three will be on a way tonight.
Dodgers took Game two after getting stomped in game one
that wasn't a Friday night, so we'll see. Obviously this
is this, this becomes the swing game. You know, we
get some NFL talk about, we get some college football
talk about. Plus, this is the sports Equinox.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Is that right, Jase? Two Sports Equinox.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Thirty second of all time, thirty second sports Equinox of
all time.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And the basics of the sports Equinox are of all
of the major all the professional sports.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Are playing all at once, right, That that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
And Jason's problem, and I agree with him, is are
we really considering soccer? But yeah, soccer, hockey, NBA, NFL.
Is there college football tonight?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I don't know. Is there a college football night? Probably is.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
There's college fotball like every night. But I guess we're
only considering professional.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Only professional sports. I'm willing to barely let hockey in.
I think in the nineties it was made a Major
four and barely anybody watches that sport. But soccer, that's
a reach. It's almost like when they're listing the five
things in the Sports Equinox and they get to the
MLS game. It's almost like when people say, after a
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couple people die that are famous. You know, they always
go in threes, and then there's always a The third
one is always a stretch. Yes, you have two like
a listers and then a guy that worked, you know,
on a movie at some point.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So you're thinking soccer as a stretch. I would agree
with you. Aki is kind of a stretch.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
But it does make sense because it's been around long enough,
it's secure, it's cure enough in itself. So we'll get
to the sports. Equinox doesn't actually matter. Are you equinox
or equinox guy? Does seem like a tomato? Tomato potato potato.
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find location near you. So I think, guys, we start
with I mean, personally, I think we start with Brian
Kelly losing his job. And I understand Brian Kelly has
there's some things in his career which everybody makes fun of,
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or if you just don't like him. Right when he
was first in Notre Dame, you'd scream at mostly his
quarterback and he would turn purple in the face, hard
image to.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Get out of your head.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Of course, you had the Scissor incident, which is an
absolute tragedy at Notre Dame, and social media likes to
have fun at Brian Kelly's expense. But Brian Kelly gets fired,
and I just there just isn't any way in which
there's realistic expectations.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
That just isn't.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
This is not the I mean again, you can listen
to it as the coach telling you this. But LSU
lost to really good teams. That league has really good teams,
and LSU chose to do it through the portal, and
on paper, they should be better than other people because
of what they've done in the portal. But the problem
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is that the portal does isn't always. It isn't always
the way to win. It's really hard to put a
team together to make them care, and so the win
over Clemson doesn't look as good as it should. The
win over Florida, Florida's fired their coach. The three losses
all the good teams in the sec Ole Miss on
the road, Vanderbilt on the road, A and M at
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home Stompson and they end up firing him. I think
what's amazing about LSU football is this is much more
in line with LSU football historically. That's just the reality.
I mean, the guy who changed it was really Saban
And then after Saban, Less Miles had a a bunch
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of you know, had consecutive ten win seasons. But they're
five and three right now. Even if Brian Kelly was
to lose to Alabama, they were on track for another
nine and four year And I just I don't think
that's terrible. And it's like, look, dude, they've won ten, ten, nine,
probably nine now and that's the expectation. That's where they fall.
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And the only times that they've had these spectacular years,
right I mean, you had the Joe Burrow year. That's
the most talented team maybe in the history of college
football if you look at what they had during edwar
Zron's fifteen o season in twenty nineteen. Outside of that,
edwar Juan won nine ten, and then of course you
had the Covid years and the ugly years at the
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end where he won five and six. You know, Les
Miles had the one year where he went thirteen and one,
and he had a couple coming off of Nick Saban,
he had three consecutive eleven plus win seasons, but he
had eight, he had a five, he had an eight
and nine, then finally they fired him in an eight
win year. This is actually and it's more competitive now
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that's ever been. LSU is finding out that however, you
want a word, what they used to do and the
extra benefits they used to provide. It was generally seen
as a cheaters school. Now you're in the SEC where
everyone can buy players. It's I mean this, Oklahoma, I
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said this when they joined the SEC. A program that's
used to ten and eleven win seasons is going to
have to get used to four in five loss seasons.
That's going to be the norm, not the exception. It's
really that difficult. Alabama, same thing like Alabama's. They are
winning games and I was the guy who defended klen
Borrer to start the year when they lost to Florida
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State and they've won every game since. But the fact
is that Alabama is a player two away from having
three losses instead of number four right in the face.
It's really what it's like in this league. It's a
super league and you have to adjust otherwise. And the
crazy part about it is that Brian Kelly has gone
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from a guy that seemed unlikable, seemed unrelatable, to boy enviable.
I guarantee if I ask Jay stew if I ask
Dan Bayer, if I ask Sam, No matter how much
we love what we do, if I said you can't
do that anymore at the place in which you work
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or wherever, you just can't do it anymore. But I'm
gonna give you fifty four million dollars to not do
it anymore, you'd be like, okay, But we've reached this
point of ridiculousness in college football. It started this year
when you fired two coaches three games in the season,
and now you're firing just anybody who doesn't win an
SEC championship, and the expectations are as such. And the
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crazy part about it is you can continue to fire
coaches whenever you want. You can't really fire players when
you want. But it's also fair to say that Brian
Kelly to LSU was a weird fit. And then you
have people go, well, he's not recruiting anymore, he's not
recruiting the same level. Yes they are, heart they recruit
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out of the portal. They don't do the high school recruiting,
and it's just hard to build a team out of
the portal. But what I think got LSU, what got
Brian Kelly is the depth of that league. Is that
the last two years the league has been okay, and
by SEC standards, it's been a little bit down. And
now with the new ruling, they've gone just all in
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money wise, and there is way more talent and way
more parody. And he's lost to three really good teams.
It's hard for people to adjust to the fact that
Vanderbilt is good, but Vanderbilt is actually legitimate and good.
That's because Vanderbilt no longer has the academic limitations that
used to have, and now you know that it's not
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cheating for them to buy players, whereas previously Vanderbilt was
you had the reputation of they didn't do anything extra.
I think that's what people are struggling to adjust to.
The adjustment in where Vanderbilt sits in the grand scheme
of things, and the fact that everybody's got players, and
if you put yourself ahead based upon the fact that
you were buying players previously, you're not anything special now
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unless you just have more money than everybody else.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
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Speaker 1 (09:42):
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you're having a spectacular day. I am so excited to
do this show here today.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You know now, no, no, and you should be excited
to listen to us. Eighteen innings, eighteen innings.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
And the Dodgers heard the criticism from when Jason Stewart
and said our bullpen's awesome at least for one night.
Matt Holliday's going to join us a little later on
the show. John Middlecoff is going to join us. We
got football basketball. Oh yeah, by the way, there was
a Monday night football game. Here's what I want to do.
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Back when Twitter was Twitter, back before it had bots,
or at least we knew they were bots, and before
there was blue check marks. I love the device because
it felt like you were in a room full of
people who were all watching the same event and would
have funny remarks and comments so whatever. And it was
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a little bit like Mystery Science Theater three thousand and
When I say that, there's going to be a you
that have no idea what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
There's a small portion of you that when I explained.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
It to be like, oh, okay, I know, and then
there's a very very small portion of view, they're gonna
be like, yeah, that's exactly what it was. Like Mystery
Science Theater three thousand was.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Was that a Nicked night show? Jase Twitt? I want
to say it was like a Nicked night show, no idea,
but it was.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
It was the premise of it was there's like a
robot and a dude and maybe one other robot and
they were stuck in space, and so they would watch
all of these b movies from like the eighties and nineties,
and they would just make comments about the movies, you know,
the unbelievable parts of it, the poorly shot parts of it,
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or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
That's what it was. It was comedy Central.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
That's what Twitter used to be, like, right, we're all
sitting around watching the same game and making funny comments.
Now it's you know, it's not real world. It's way
too far left or way too far everything's negative, full
of bots, full of ads and whatever. But last night
was a shared experience and if your experiences hadn't watch it, dude,
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just because I'm not that into baseball, that's okay, but
I fell asleep last night. I fell asleep twice and
missed it. I mean, and I've missed several things. I
really missed two things in my lifetime that I'm I
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don't know if I'm bitter about, but I definitely reticent about.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I want to say. It was nineteen.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Ninety six USC UCLA. Cay McCown was the quarterback of UCLA.
They were down big heading into the fourth quarter, and
they scored like I'm gonna say, like four touchdowns in
the fourth quarter. My sister was a lum of UCLA.
She was a former UCLA cheerleader, so we'd been a
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ton of UCLA games. My brother was a uclalm. My
whole family we used to go to this game all
the time. And this was my year back in southern
California after Notre Dame, before Oaklhoma State. Go to the game.
UCLA is getting blown out. At the end of the
third quarter, We're like, that's it.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Wore out. Rose bulls a trap to get out of.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
And I remember hearing a roar as we got to
our crowd and thinking, ah, sc scored again.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Couldn't turn on the radio.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
The whole way didn't want to know anything about it,
got home, turned on the TV and UCLA came.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Back and won.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
And then the Iron Bowl where you had to kick six.
I'm going to say that was two thousand and twelve.
A buddy of mine named Mike Harriston, who's a big
donor at Auburn, has invited me for years to come
to the game twenty thirteen. Thank you twenty thirteen for
years to come to the game. And he took a
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picture which I still have somewhere in my camera role
of he as a suite and there's eight sweet tickets.
Seven of the stubs are used, one stub is not,
and he's like, hey missed you, buddy, And I did.
It was I had a game on a Sunday, and
I had a chance choice to leave on Friday for
the game and go to Auburn and then you know,
drive to Atlanta and fly out, and I instead chose
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And I'm not bitter about right. My kids were little
to hang out my kids for a day, and then
I watched the game in the airport.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
But I remember.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Watching the kick six right before I boarded my flight,
thinking I should have been in Auburn, Alabama last night
I'm watching the game.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I had the the what's it called the.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
View with the two two screens up chase two, uh
huh multiview. I had the multiview going and I was
slipping back and forth with the sound.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
We had a.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Recruit in town, so we went down to Texas Roadhouse,
got us, got us a big old stake again. Both
the games are on. We're right in the bar area.
It's awesome listening to the get home, watch the game,
talking to friends, and like the tenth inning. I just
I could not keep my eyes open. It was a
long day, a lot of travel that the previous day
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in that day, and I just we had two practices,
we got an exhibition, get a game coming up next week.
I just I fell asleep and then I woke up
and I thought it was the replay of the game.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
That's exactly what I thought. It was the replay of
the game, because I woke up and I think it
was like two hours. I felt like it was two
hours later and the game was still on. And if
you watch games on YouTube on YouTube TV, you know
that they it just replays games constantly, constantly on some
of those random channels that they have there, So I
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just thought that's what it was, and I watched it.
I open up my eyes and it was five to five,
and I'm like, this is the same game. I fell
asleep too, and then I fell back asleep, and then
I woke up this morning or really early this morning,
and I realized, wait, hold on, what happened. I totally
missed it. Totally missed it. So you have Sho Hayes
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incredible night on base nine times, all nine times he
went up to play up to the plate. You have
Freddie Freeman for the second consecutive year, being a hero
in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You have the Dodgers bullpen doing something that I don't
think Jay stew thought they were ever capable of, which is,
you know, holding things together waiting for offense, even had
Kershaw come in and get it out right, they just
just get us out and he got him, got him out.
You have Toronto and obviously Springer that that one's gonna
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that that potentially hurts them, but so many of the
substitutions they made to try and win the game end
up lasting their lineup later on the game in terms
of their competitiveness and ability to put a run on
the board and then you have show show he is
going to pitch tonight after you know, four for four
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with five walks and all that energy expended. The whole
thing is crazy. So here's what I want to do,
the shared experience. Let me start dan Byer with you.
You have a son family. You strike me as somebody
that goes to bed earlier than me and Jason Stewart does.
I could be completely wrong. You don't strike me as
a super night owl like I am. What was your
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experience with the game.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Last night, Doug, you are wrong. I think I stay
up way longer than Jason Stewart does.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Can you confirm that? Jason?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Absolutely, yeah, night owl?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I am.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
We're getting your rundowns at like midnight sometimes that's true.
I do, yes, I do stay up late. Final draft.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
So my viewing experience was this, watched flipped back and forth,
watched more of a Monday night game, actually took in
some of the manning care asked last night. I hadn't
been doing that lately, but did last night. Flipped around
back and forth, Chiefs Commanders ends, probably seventh inning, so
seventh inning on I'm locked into baseball until I have
to do our I Want Your Flex podcast, But I
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still had it on as Mike Harmon and our executive
producer Ian Roddy recorded that. And it was in the
last segment that Freddy Freeman hit the last segment that
we were recording that Freddy Freeman hit the walk off
shot in the eighteenth So yeah, I was I was up.
I probably didn't go to bed till like quarter to
two last night.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
All right, Sam, what was your experience?
Speaker 5 (18:38):
I feel like I spent the majority of my emotional
or I burned the majority of my emotional wic or
candle during you know the the set was the seventh
inning when show Hey tied it up and then like
you know, you're that was.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
As exciting and I'm not. I want to make sure
this is clear. I like the Dodgers. I consider myself
I mean, like, you're a SoCal guy. I'm I'm again
I locked in with the Angels, but I've always liked
the Dodgers. Gone to World Series games with the Dodgers.
Dodgers team is the best place I've ever been to
see a baseball game. But I was I was so
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excited with the seventh inning that it really did I
agree with you?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
What'd you say? You burned your emotional wick? That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yeah. So yeah, like the the Miam I was spent
by you know.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
So then in the ninth inning, and then we go
the tenth, eleventh, twelfth, by the fourteenth, fifteenth, I'm just like,
oh man, at this point, just somebody win it, please.
I'm exhausted. I didn't even really care who was gonna win.
At that point, I'm like, just end it, just end it.
Credit to Dodger fans, most most of them stuck around
and they went wild the end that. But yeah, I'd
say that between like the you know, the fifth through
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the ninth inning was really tense. Uh burned, yeah, burned
the emotional wick and uh if uh you know, Just.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
So you're up, I stop watching it the whole time.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Watch the whole time. I was making dinner. I was
even like vacuuming at one point, I was just doing
different things. I ate dinner, I laid there, I went
on the computer, and just inning after inning, draw after draw,
stalemate after stalemate, and then Freddie finally ends it, and
you're just like, thank you Lord Jesus.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
All right, Jase too, what was last night, Like, this is.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Like a labor of love for me. I'm gonna say
this is I rarely am serious, but I'm gonna be
dead serious here. I had just raw emotions. I had
tears in my eyes a quarter to midnight last night.
One of the greatest things I have ever witnessed since
I've been in the business, but even in my lifetime,
and I remember Kurt Gibson, it was like, again, this
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experience that I'm about to share with you is a
complete labor of love. Because how many people at the
game last night or watching the game last night get
to go on the radio the next day and talk
about your team in one of the greatest experiences you've
ever had. And where do you want to start? Like,
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where do you want to start? How many storylines do
you want to follow? You have the show Hey O
Towny's story. You have the Freddie Freeman story, those are
the headlines. You have the bullpen story that superstar will
climb introduce himself to the world last night something. You
have the Tommy Edmund redemption story. He made a horrible
error in the second or third inning and spent the
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entire rest of the eighteen innings making up for that.
He was a part of the relay throw home that
saved the game. He was a part of the throw
from from second base to get what's his phase at
third base to save the inning.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
What about that little scoop just the first base, you know,
the little dribbler like that was? That was That was
one of those where you think of it as like
a hot dogging play, you know, where you don't touch,
you use your hand, but he actually needed it for
that play, and he scoops it up and throws it
the first and again saves another run.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
And that's where the storylines crossed, because that was Kershaw's story.
Kershaw came in for one pitch, bet one batter. He
threw ball four twice. He threw ball four twice to Lucas.
Lucas swings at ball four that almost was in the dirt.
Tommy Edmund comes in, scoops it up and throws to first.
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Everybody who was watching that, who has been invested in
the Dodgers all of Kershaw's career, was Ellen Kershaw in
that moment, And if you've seen the replay, she was
going to lose it. I think she was about to
have a heart attack. And all Dodger fans were feeling
the same thing. The roller coaster of last night is
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so hard to put into words. I was so pissed
at Mookie Betts for eighteen innings of a game. That's
almost two games. I spent pissed off at Mookie Betts,
just seething at him. And I'm still mad at him.
But it doesn't it's not as as my feelings about
him do not overcompensate for just the pure feeling of joy.
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The video that we saw last night. I put it
on my social media. You've seen it. Somebody got a
video of Yama Mato, who who volunteered to pitch in
the nineteenth inning, if it's gonna if it was gonna go,
they got it. Just through the complete game, volunteered to
pitch in the nineteenth inning. He was gonna give us
nine innings last night. You see the video of him
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and all the guys in the bullpen, including his interpreter,
and there's like pure genuine glee, and then they went
to embrace show hey like midfield, and I'm thinking, this
is what eight year olds do in Little League. I
was just so overcome with emotion watching the videos from
last night, just pure unadult traded glee. I was so happy.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Alright, let me give you, let me give you a
couple of thoughts. Heres Doug Gottlip Show here on Fox Sports.
Feel free to share, yes, your thoughts in watching that
baseball game. And if you didn't watch the baseball gain,
it's okay, all it's all part of the story because
you're going to be the guy like I didn't watch well, well,
whatever it was, it was an amazing sporting event.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Two parts.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
One, I don't have to not sound harsh. This is
what college basketball coaches talk about all the time. This
is why we recruit foreign players because they just are
easier and they seem to be wired better, like we
screw up the wiring. And again I'm using this as
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the basketball analogy to baseball, which is different, and there's
different parts of the world that play baseball, celebrate believe
in baseball differently.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
But the way in which if you listen to Show
Hayes interview after the game where they asked him all
these things, like all he wants to do is win,
and he wants to go home and get to sleep
so they can wake up and win the next day. Right,
now again the cynic says, well, that's easy when you
got seven hundred million dollars coming into you over the
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next twenty years. But no, that's really how he's wired.
That's it's just different. There isn't the entitlement of the
American or maybe even the Latin player. It's just not
very very different.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
It's like when you watch American baseball players or Latin
baseball players, there's one thing that I would say over
fifty percent of them have some ridiculous chain on when
they play. You ever noticed Japanese players don't have that?
You ever knows that they just said they're they're they're
playing baseball to play baseball.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
That's what they do.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
And the reason that so many American coach like myself,
like we had a kid in last night from Serbia
and we have three Serbians on our team, and you know,
we had two Israelis last year in Australian kid and
they're just wired differently. They're wired to like, hey, I
just want to go out and like the Aussie's, I
want to go play ball and then have a beer afterwards.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Like that's really it.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
So the first thing is, like I do think there's
a purity to the Japanese star that doesn't have doesn't
have the entitlement. Doesn't mean all American players are entitled,
doesn't even mean most of them are entitled. But I
am blown away by the lack of entitlement from the
Japanese player. Secondly, there is something that I don't think
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gets discussed, and I gotta be honest with you. I
didn't listen to a ton of Joe Davis and John Smoltz,
even though I love John Smoltz eighteen innings nine innings
of extra inning ball when in the regular season extra
inning play is completely different. Right when you get to
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the tenth inning in the regular season, there's a guy
on second base to start every inning, So it's a
completely different way of playing, preparing. Obviously your defense is more.
But something that Sam said is at some point I
just wanted to get over that's how regular season baseball is. Right,
regular season baseball, they put a guy at second base
because everybody's like, we're good here, let's a rap, let's
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get this thing going. But it's there's no real preparation
for when you play one hundred and six to two
games with one set of rules, and then you play
the playoffs and there's a different set of rules, and
you can say, well, it's the same set of rules
you play the first nine and things, but we all
know that it's not because the amount of pressure and
the adjustments that are made are completely different, or maybe
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they're much just on peak in comparison to others. So
there's lots of takeaways to be had. I agree with
John Sneyder. I would ever pitch to show Io Toni
ever and yeah, it's a bad watch, but you know what,
if you can do it, you do it. Rule number
one in coaching take away what the other team does best?
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Period stop. And I'm blown away by the lack of
entitlement of the Japanese player. And I find it really
interesting that What's Gonna go down as historically one of
the greatest games ever played in World Series history, there
was not the level of pre prepparedness for it because
the regular season rules are.
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we want to talk about all things that are important
to you, right that's the number one thing. And a
quick congratulations to our guy, Colin Cowherd, who last I
was inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame. I do
think you look, Colin is a friend and a mentor
of mine. And one of the things that Colin has
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always said and frankly taught me when I was just
a young whipper snapper we got to ESPN at the
exact same time, was don't talk about what you want
to talk about, talk about what the most people want
to hear about. So look, I'll start with the NFL.
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Last night was a complete beat down. One team is
trying to turn around their season, the other one seems
dead the water. And the one team is trying to
turn around their season came in with the inferior record.
Lamar Jackson, Ravens come in not really competitive against the Dolphins,
and today Chris Greer is let go.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
But I I gotta take.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
So word I'm looking for. I gotta take a second,
okay and call bs bs on something probably the most
powerful man in sports media had to say earlier today
was not research, not poorly researched, not research categorically misconstrued
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or even false and designed simply to feed into the
narrative that the end of the day, the NFL is racist.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I'll get to that in one second. First, here's Mike McDaniel,
the still head coach of the Miami Dolphins, summing up
the loss after the game.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
That was that self inflicted wounds that we've been putting
such an emphasis on, you know, all things related to
our operation. And in the critical fourth and one where
the you know, we're pretty fired up about the defensive Look,
it was what we were calling the play for and
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that's flat out a controllable that our team knows that
keeps you from winning. So I rate at nothing but
our self inflicted wound.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, Ok, that's Oli Gordon. He slips, he falls, he
low bridges oncoming defender, causes a penalty and they don't
get the first down because of it. And then Oli
Gordon is yelling back an assistant coach. And again, if
you watch the video, Ali fell down. He slipped, but
again it still is your fault when you slip. Whatever,
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the Dolphins were gonna change coaches at the end of
the year, regardless, the Dolphins are probably gonna have to
change quarterbacks at the end of the year or get
into the process of whenever they can get out of
to his deal, get out of to his deal. Chris
Greer was fired. That should be mentioned. He's been with
the organization for twenty five years. In those twenty five years,
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they have won exactly zero playoff games. He's been the
GM for ten years. They've won exactly zero playoff games.
And I'm not saying it's not difficult. But I heard
this earlier today on first Take, and I thought it
was so bad. It was actually offensive. And I'll tell
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you why after you listen to Steven A.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Smith is BS that's the first fire.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Really, that's what we're doing, what we've seen, what we
just finished talking about. You know, there are things that
you need to be modified, et cetera, et cetera. But
the personnel that they have on this squad, although we're
not we're not happy with it. We didn't walk into
this season thinking they were going to be trash. We
looked at their ross and we said they got some potential.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
It was about Tua, it was about Mike mcdoniel and
the brother get fired.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
First.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
All I know is this, I better hear Mike McDaniel's
name today. I better hear Mike McDaniel's name today. But
I made it better not be just Chris Grere. And
I'm not saying that he don't deserve it because of
the way they look at the end.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
You knew you at the helm.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I got it.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
I understand it.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
I'm all for brothers as.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
Head coaches gyms.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
We know what battles I've been fighting over thirty years.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Okay, I got it all right.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
But because when you don't get the job done, you
don't get the damn job done, period.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
I got it.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Don't tell me it's just him. Don't tell me we
gonna leave Mike McDaniel's in place and we just gonna
fire him and we.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Gonna move forward. Damn that.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
I'm waiting for more news.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
I'm waiting for more news again.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I can't.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
I can't defend Chris Grere with some of the decisions
that have been made personal wise.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I got it.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
I understand it is unfortunate, but I got it. But
I'll be damned if it gets to stop there.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Oh hell no, So.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
We all heard the exact same thing. Okay, I don't
want to mislabel it. I don't want to misassociate it.
I don't want to treat it as anything other than
what we heard Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Smith say. Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Smith said that though he thinks Chris Greer ultimately should
have been fired because he's black, he shouldn't be the
first one fired because the problems are with TUA and
with Mike McDaniel. Now there's two different things that we
have to point out. One, Mike McDaniel is mixed race.
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His father, I believe, is a black man. Tua is Samoan.
So again, I'm not racist. I don't know how racism works.
I just don't. Apparently, in Steven A. Smith's world, because
Chris Greer has darker skin and both parents are black, well,
then the Dolphins are racist against him him more so
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than against McDaniel and TUA.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Right, that's the assumption. He talked about.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
The decisions that have been made he doesn't agree with.
Who was the general manager when they selected Tua. The
answer is Chris Greer, who was the general manager when
they re signed TUA. The answer is Chris Greer, who
was the general manager who told the owner, Stephen Ross,
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it's either Brian Flores, who didn't like Tua and didn't
like Chris Greer and didn't like essentially any offensive coach
who coached with him, and so they got rid of
him and they brought in Mike McDaniel. He hired Mike McDaniel,
He drafted Tua, he re upped to a He built
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this entire roster, And the biggest flaw in all of
sports media is one of the things that was on
display outside of you know, race baiting and creating a
narrative which is completely false and doesn't exist and is
super embarrassing to any of us in sports media, especially
somebody who's the highest paid employee at ESPN essentially calling
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the Dolphins races for firing a GM who they'd held
on for ten years despite the fact they never won
a playoff game. But here's the biggest mistake they made.
We are some of the players, we like some of
the players. That's because you don't like one. He didn't
know the roster. Second, it's not about the talent. The
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most talented teams don't win. It's the best teams that
Winky and they made. Who made the decision to trade
for for Tyreek Hill, keep in mind, you can criticize
the personnel, the wide receivers they've given to patmah Holmes
(38:00):
since Tyreek Hill was traded. They've won two super Bowls
since he's been gone. Why because you don't win just
based on talent. You gotta win based on guys that
salary fits in and want to be part of a team.
Tyreek Hill didn't want that, so they Chris Greer's biggest mistake,
biggest mistake was drafting to over Justin Herbert right. That
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ultimately is why he gets fired. But the other mistakes
he's made is he's gone talent over character. They have
some guys with terrible character on that team that they've
been trying to get rid of. That ruined any sort
of culture that they tried to build. And the defense
stakes and two is not good enough and everybody knows it.
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But you have the most powerful man in sports media.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Don't believe me.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Just ask him stating something which he's forgotten, that they
fired the coach last time to keep the general manager.
The coach was black, the geno matters was black. Nobody
said anything about it except for Brian Flores, who sued
the Dolphins and so instead of actually talking about what happened,
how to fix it, who they should hire, you know,
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or whatever. Instead they label the NFL as racist, and
then there's nobody on that set that goes like, uh, hey,
you know he was there for twenty five years, he
was the GM for ten. The entire front office is
actually black with the Miami Dolphins. So they're not racist
to hire and support and promote Chris Greer, but they're
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racist to fire him instead of firing a mixed race
coach or firing a simoan or trading or get rid
of or cutting a swoon quarterback. That doesn't make any
sense to anybody with any sort of brains. But again,
the people that listen to Stephen A. Smith think worlds
out to get black people. The NFL is racist. That's
why they fired Chris Greer first. And they'll get to
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Mike mcdanees some other day. Jace do, I just want
to make sure did you hear the same thing that
I heard? Just want to make sure that I'm not
just hearing things I'm not and I'm not like, I'm
not one of these guys that goes around and tries
to find things which people call racism. And you're like,
it's not ra but like this is. It's utterly ridiculous,
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and it's it's the type of thing that I believe
has driven people away from the rest of ESPN. I
don't think all or even most of people who work
at ESPN think this way. Most of the broadcasting is
based upon the actual sports, but the race.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Bating is tired, it's done, it's over.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
And this one only proves that Stephen A does no work,
no research, doesn't actually care to do so. And then
two he plays that one card he always has, which
is racist.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Did I miss something?
Speaker 3 (40:58):
No, I don't think you missed anything. And I do
think that there needs to be some clarification from the
people over there at ESPN, like what, what where does
the mixed race fall into this? Because remember Ryan klarquast
Fall said that Lamar Jackson needs to win a Super
Bowl for US. Lamar Jackson does when Pat Mahomes is
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one four or five, right, Yeah, And in this situation,
mixed race Mike McDaniel somehow is left out of the equation.
I just don't know how that factors in here.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, I just again, that's say that is a that is.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
A cultural argument. That we can't.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
That's one you can't get into, right. I mean, look, nobody,
nobody crushes black people like black.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
People will do it. You know.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
It's one of the things about that, A lot of
people in the black community will say, like, hey, why
do we treat light skin people differently than dark seam
Like why do we do that? It does happen in
other parts of society. Happens in Mexico, as I think
anybody in California knows. There's always been the conflict between
lighter skin Mexicans and darker skinned Mexicans. And again that's
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not my purview. I don't know, and I don't care.
I don't think he didn't take it. He wasn't saying
that because he's mixed raced. He's below that of you know,
somebody who comes from a black mom and black dad.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
He didn't know. He didn't know.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
He doesn't even remember about Brian Flores. He didn't know
about the whole Miami Dolphins front office. He doesn't know,
and he doesn't care because nobody outside of us and
some other people will call him on the bull crap.
But this is bull crap because all he had to
do was ask a researcher. He doesn't even have to
know himself. Hey man, give me, give me something on
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the Dolphins, and you know what they wouldn't say. They
wouldn't say. You know, it's got a racist to fire
at Chris Greer first, because they would point out, you know,
they hired Chris Greer, they stood by Chris Greer. The
whole front office was African American. The last head coach
was African American. It doesn't make any sense, but Dad
doesn't get clicks, and we just gave him more clicks,
even if we were clowning on his take.
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By agree with him, got a lot to get to.
World Series Game three will be on a way tonight.
Dodgers took Game two after getting stomped in game one
that wasn't a Friday night, so we'll see. Obviously this
is this, this becomes the swing game. You know, we
get some NFL talk about, we get some college football
talk about. Plus, this is the sports Equinox.
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Is that right, Jase? Two Sports Equinox.
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Thirty second of all time, thirty second sports Equinox of
all time.
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And the basics of the sports Equinox are of all
of the major all the professional sports.
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Are playing all at once, right, That that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
And Jason's problem, and I agree with him, is are
we really considering soccer? But yeah, soccer, hockey, NBA, NFL.
Is there college football tonight?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I don't know. Is there a college football night? Probably is.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
There's college fotball like every night. But I guess we're
only considering professional.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Only professional sports. I'm willing to barely let hockey in.
I think in the nineties it was made a Major
four and barely anybody watches that sport. But soccer, that's
a reach. It's almost like when they're listing the five
things in the Sports Equinox and they get to the
MLS game. It's almost like when people say, after a
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couple people die that are famous. You know, they always
go in threes, and then there's always a The third
one is always a stretch. Yes, you have two like
a listers and then a guy that worked, you know,
on a movie at some point.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So you're thinking soccer as a stretch. I would agree
with you. Aki is kind of a stretch.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
But it does make sense because it's been around long enough,
it's secure, it's cure enough in itself. So we'll get
to the sports. Equinox doesn't actually matter. Are you equinox
or equinox guy? Does seem like a tomato? Tomato potato potato.
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with I mean, personally, I think we start with Brian
Kelly losing his job. And I understand Brian Kelly has
there's some things in his career which everybody makes fun of,
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or if you just don't like him. Right when he
was first in Notre Dame, you'd scream at mostly his
quarterback and he would turn purple in the face, hard
image to.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Get out of your head.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Of course, you had the Scissor incident, which is an
absolute tragedy at Notre Dame, and social media likes to
have fun at Brian Kelly's expense. But Brian Kelly gets fired,
and I just there just isn't any way in which
there's realistic expectations.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
That just isn't.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
This is not the I mean again, you can listen
to it as the coach telling you this. But LSU
lost to really good teams. That league has really good teams,
and LSU chose to do it through the portal, and
on paper, they should be better than other people because
of what they've done in the portal. But the problem
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is that the portal does isn't always. It isn't always
the way to win. It's really hard to put a
team together to make them care, and so the win
over Clemson doesn't look as good as it should. The
win over Florida, Florida's fired their coach. The three losses
all the good teams in the sec Ole Miss on
the road, Vanderbilt on the road, A and M at
(04:39):
home Stompson and they end up firing him. I think
what's amazing about LSU football is this is much more
in line with LSU football historically. That's just the reality.
I mean, the guy who changed it was really Saban
And then after Saban, Less Miles had a a bunch
(05:00):
of you know, had consecutive ten win seasons. But they're
five and three right now. Even if Brian Kelly was
to lose to Alabama, they were on track for another
nine and four year And I just I don't think
that's terrible. And it's like, look, dude, they've won ten, ten, nine,
probably nine now and that's the expectation. That's where they fall.
(05:24):
And the only times that they've had these spectacular years,
right I mean, you had the Joe Burrow year. That's
the most talented team maybe in the history of college
football if you look at what they had during edwar
Zron's fifteen o season in twenty nineteen. Outside of that,
edwar Juan won nine ten, and then of course you
had the Covid years and the ugly years at the
(05:45):
end where he won five and six. You know, Les
Miles had the one year where he went thirteen and one,
and he had a couple coming off of Nick Saban,
he had three consecutive eleven plus win seasons, but he
had eight, he had a five, he had an eight
and nine, then finally they fired him in an eight
win year. This is actually and it's more competitive now
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that's ever been. LSU is finding out that however, you
want a word, what they used to do and the
extra benefits they used to provide. It was generally seen
as a cheaters school. Now you're in the SEC where
everyone can buy players. It's I mean this, Oklahoma, I
(06:29):
said this when they joined the SEC. A program that's
used to ten and eleven win seasons is going to
have to get used to four in five loss seasons.
That's going to be the norm, not the exception. It's
really that difficult. Alabama, same thing like Alabama's. They are
winning games and I was the guy who defended klen
Borrer to start the year when they lost to Florida
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State and they've won every game since. But the fact
is that Alabama is a player two away from having
three losses instead of number four right in the face.
It's really what it's like in this league. It's a
super league and you have to adjust otherwise. And the
crazy part about it is that Brian Kelly has gone
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from a guy that seemed unlikable, seemed unrelatable, to boy enviable.
I guarantee if I ask Jay stew if I ask
Dan Bayer, if I ask Sam, No matter how much
we love what we do, if I said you can't
do that anymore at the place in which you work
(07:38):
or wherever, you just can't do it anymore. But I'm
gonna give you fifty four million dollars to not do
it anymore, you'd be like, okay, But we've reached this
point of ridiculousness in college football. It started this year
when you fired two coaches three games in the season,
and now you're firing just anybody who doesn't win an
SEC championship, and the expectations are as such. And the
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crazy part about it is you can continue to fire
coaches whenever you want. You can't really fire players when
you want. But it's also fair to say that Brian
Kelly to LSU was a weird fit. And then you
have people go, well, he's not recruiting anymore, he's not
recruiting the same level. Yes they are, heart they recruit
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out of the portal. They don't do the high school recruiting,
and it's just hard to build a team out of
the portal. But what I think got LSU, what got
Brian Kelly is the depth of that league. Is that
the last two years the league has been okay, and
by SEC standards, it's been a little bit down. And
now with the new ruling, they've gone just all in
(08:46):
money wise, and there is way more talent and way
more parody. And he's lost to three really good teams.
It's hard for people to adjust to the fact that
Vanderbilt is good, but Vanderbilt is actually legitimate and good.
That's because Vanderbilt no longer has the academic limitations that
used to have, and now you know that it's not
(09:07):
cheating for them to buy players, whereas previously Vanderbilt was
you had the reputation of they didn't do anything extra.
I think that's what people are struggling to adjust to.
The adjustment in where Vanderbilt sits in the grand scheme
of things, and the fact that everybody's got players, and
if you put yourself ahead based upon the fact that
you were buying players previously, you're not anything special now
(09:32):
unless you just have more money than everybody else.
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Back when Twitter was Twitter, back before it had bots,
or at least we knew they were bots, and before
there was blue check marks. I love the device because
it felt like you were in a room full of
people who were all watching the same event and would
have funny remarks and comments so whatever. And it was
(10:52):
a little bit like Mystery Science Theater three thousand and
When I say that, there's going to be a you
that have no idea what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
There's a small portion of you that when I explained.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
It to be like, oh, okay, I know, and then
there's a very very small portion of view, they're gonna
be like, yeah, that's exactly what it was. Like Mystery
Science Theater three thousand was.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Was that a Nicked night show? Jase Twitt? I want
to say it was like a Nicked night show, no idea,
but it was.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
It was the premise of it was there's like a
robot and a dude and maybe one other robot and
they were stuck in space, and so they would watch
all of these b movies from like the eighties and nineties,
and they would just make comments about the movies, you know,
the unbelievable parts of it, the poorly shot parts of it,
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or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
That's what it was. It was comedy Central.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
That's what Twitter used to be, like, right, we're all
sitting around watching the same game and making funny comments.
Now it's you know, it's not real world. It's way
too far left or way too far everything's negative, full
of bots, full of ads and whatever. But last night
was a shared experience and if your experiences hadn't watch it, dude,
(12:09):
just because I'm not that into baseball, that's okay, but
I fell asleep last night. I fell asleep twice and
missed it. I mean, and I've missed several things. I
really missed two things in my lifetime that I'm I
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don't know if I'm bitter about, but I definitely reticent about.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I want to say. It was nineteen.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Ninety six USC UCLA. Cay McCown was the quarterback of UCLA.
They were down big heading into the fourth quarter, and
they scored like I'm gonna say, like four touchdowns in
the fourth quarter. My sister was a lum of UCLA.
She was a former UCLA cheerleader, so we'd been a
(13:02):
ton of UCLA games. My brother was a uclalm. My
whole family we used to go to this game all
the time. And this was my year back in southern
California after Notre Dame, before Oaklhoma State. Go to the game.
UCLA is getting blown out. At the end of the
third quarter, We're like, that's it.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Wore out. Rose bulls a trap to get out of.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
And I remember hearing a roar as we got to
our crowd and thinking, ah, sc scored again.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Couldn't turn on the radio.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
The whole way didn't want to know anything about it,
got home, turned on the TV and UCLA came.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Back and won.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
And then the Iron Bowl where you had to kick six.
I'm going to say that was two thousand and twelve.
A buddy of mine named Mike Harriston, who's a big
donor at Auburn, has invited me for years to come
to the game twenty thirteen. Thank you twenty thirteen for
years to come to the game. And he took a
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picture which I still have somewhere in my camera role
of he as a suite and there's eight sweet tickets.
Seven of the stubs are used, one stub is not,
and he's like, hey missed you, buddy, And I did.
It was I had a game on a Sunday, and
I had a chance choice to leave on Friday for
the game and go to Auburn and then you know,
drive to Atlanta and fly out, and I instead chose
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And I'm not bitter about right. My kids were little
to hang out my kids for a day, and then
I watched the game in the airport.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
But I remember.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Watching the kick six right before I boarded my flight,
thinking I should have been in Auburn, Alabama last night
I'm watching the game.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I had the the what's it called the.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
View with the two two screens up chase two, uh
huh multiview. I had the multiview going and I was
slipping back and forth with the sound.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
We had a.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Recruit in town, so we went down to Texas Roadhouse,
got us, got us a big old stake again. Both
the games are on. We're right in the bar area.
It's awesome listening to the get home, watch the game,
talking to friends, and like the tenth inning. I just
I could not keep my eyes open. It was a
long day, a lot of travel that the previous day
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in that day, and I just we had two practices,
we got an exhibition, get a game coming up next week.
I just I fell asleep and then I woke up
and I thought it was the replay of the game.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
That's exactly what I thought. It was the replay of
the game, because I woke up and I think it
was like two hours. I felt like it was two
hours later and the game was still on. And if
you watch games on YouTube on YouTube TV, you know
that they it just replays games constantly, constantly on some
of those random channels that they have there, So I
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just thought that's what it was, and I watched it.
I open up my eyes and it was five to five,
and I'm like, this is the same game. I fell
asleep too, and then I fell back asleep, and then
I woke up this morning or really early this morning,
and I realized, wait, hold on, what happened. I totally
missed it. Totally missed it. So you have Sho Hayes
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incredible night on base nine times, all nine times he
went up to play up to the plate. You have
Freddie Freeman for the second consecutive year, being a hero
in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You have the Dodgers bullpen doing something that I don't
think Jay stew thought they were ever capable of, which is,
you know, holding things together waiting for offense, even had
Kershaw come in and get it out right, they just
just get us out and he got him, got him out.
You have Toronto and obviously Springer that that one's gonna
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that that potentially hurts them, but so many of the
substitutions they made to try and win the game end
up lasting their lineup later on the game in terms
of their competitiveness and ability to put a run on
the board and then you have show show he is
going to pitch tonight after you know, four for four
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with five walks and all that energy expended. The whole
thing is crazy. So here's what I want to do,
the shared experience. Let me start dan Byer with you.
You have a son family. You strike me as somebody
that goes to bed earlier than me and Jason Stewart does.
I could be completely wrong. You don't strike me as
a super night owl like I am. What was your
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experience with the game.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Last night, Doug, you are wrong. I think I stay
up way longer than Jason Stewart does.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Can you confirm that? Jason?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Absolutely, yeah, night owl?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I am.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
We're getting your rundowns at like midnight sometimes that's true.
I do, yes, I do stay up late. Final draft.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
So my viewing experience was this, watched flipped back and forth,
watched more of a Monday night game, actually took in
some of the manning care asked last night. I hadn't
been doing that lately, but did last night. Flipped around
back and forth, Chiefs Commanders ends, probably seventh inning, so
seventh inning on I'm locked into baseball until I have
to do our I Want Your Flex podcast, But I
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still had it on as Mike Harmon and our executive
producer Ian Roddy recorded that. And it was in the
last segment that Freddy Freeman hit the last segment that
we were recording that Freddy Freeman hit the walk off
shot in the eighteenth So yeah, I was I was up.
I probably didn't go to bed till like quarter to
two last night.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
All right, Sam, what was your experience?
Speaker 5 (18:38):
I feel like I spent the majority of my emotional
or I burned the majority of my emotional wic or
candle during you know the the set was the seventh
inning when show Hey tied it up and then like
you know, you're that was.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
As exciting and I'm not. I want to make sure
this is clear. I like the Dodgers. I consider myself
I mean, like, you're a SoCal guy. I'm I'm again
I locked in with the Angels, but I've always liked
the Dodgers. Gone to World Series games with the Dodgers.
Dodgers team is the best place I've ever been to
see a baseball game. But I was I was so
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excited with the seventh inning that it really did I
agree with you?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
What'd you say? You burned your emotional wick? That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yeah. So yeah, like the the Miam I was spent
by you know.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
So then in the ninth inning, and then we go
the tenth, eleventh, twelfth, by the fourteenth, fifteenth, I'm just like,
oh man, at this point, just somebody win it, please.
I'm exhausted. I didn't even really care who was gonna win.
At that point, I'm like, just end it, just end it.
Credit to Dodger fans, most most of them stuck around
and they went wild the end that. But yeah, I'd
say that between like the you know, the fifth through
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the ninth inning was really tense. Uh burned, yeah, burned
the emotional wick and uh if uh you know, Just.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
So you're up, I stop watching it the whole time.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Watch the whole time. I was making dinner. I was
even like vacuuming at one point, I was just doing
different things. I ate dinner, I laid there, I went
on the computer, and just inning after inning, draw after draw,
stalemate after stalemate, and then Freddie finally ends it, and
you're just like, thank you Lord Jesus.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
All right, Jase too, what was last night, Like, this is.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Like a labor of love for me. I'm gonna say
this is I rarely am serious, but I'm gonna be
dead serious here. I had just raw emotions. I had
tears in my eyes a quarter to midnight last night.
One of the greatest things I have ever witnessed since
I've been in the business, but even in my lifetime,
and I remember Kurt Gibson, it was like, again, this
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experience that I'm about to share with you is a
complete labor of love. Because how many people at the
game last night or watching the game last night get
to go on the radio the next day and talk
about your team in one of the greatest experiences you've
ever had. And where do you want to start? Like,
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where do you want to start? How many storylines do
you want to follow? You have the show Hey O
Towny's story. You have the Freddie Freeman story, those are
the headlines. You have the bullpen story that superstar will
climb introduce himself to the world last night something. You
have the Tommy Edmund redemption story. He made a horrible
error in the second or third inning and spent the
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entire rest of the eighteen innings making up for that.
He was a part of the relay throw home that
saved the game. He was a part of the throw
from from second base to get what's his phase at
third base to save the inning.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
What about that little scoop just the first base, you know,
the little dribbler like that was? That was That was
one of those where you think of it as like
a hot dogging play, you know, where you don't touch,
you use your hand, but he actually needed it for
that play, and he scoops it up and throws it
the first and again saves another run.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
And that's where the storylines crossed, because that was Kershaw's story.
Kershaw came in for one pitch, bet one batter. He
threw ball four twice. He threw ball four twice to Lucas.
Lucas swings at ball four that almost was in the dirt.
Tommy Edmund comes in, scoops it up and throws to first.
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Everybody who was watching that, who has been invested in
the Dodgers all of Kershaw's career, was Ellen Kershaw in
that moment, And if you've seen the replay, she was
going to lose it. I think she was about to
have a heart attack. And all Dodger fans were feeling
the same thing. The roller coaster of last night is
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so hard to put into words. I was so pissed
at Mookie Betts for eighteen innings of a game. That's
almost two games. I spent pissed off at Mookie Betts,
just seething at him. And I'm still mad at him.
But it doesn't it's not as as my feelings about
him do not overcompensate for just the pure feeling of joy.
(23:06):
The video that we saw last night. I put it
on my social media. You've seen it. Somebody got a
video of Yama Mato, who who volunteered to pitch in
the nineteenth inning, if it's gonna if it was gonna go,
they got it. Just through the complete game, volunteered to
pitch in the nineteenth inning. He was gonna give us
nine innings last night. You see the video of him
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and all the guys in the bullpen, including his interpreter,
and there's like pure genuine glee, and then they went
to embrace show hey like midfield, and I'm thinking, this
is what eight year olds do in Little League. I
was just so overcome with emotion watching the videos from
last night, just pure unadult traded glee. I was so happy.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Alright, let me give you, let me give you a
couple of thoughts. Heres Doug Gottlip Show here on Fox Sports.
Feel free to share, yes, your thoughts in watching that
baseball game. And if you didn't watch the baseball gain,
it's okay, all it's all part of the story because
you're going to be the guy like I didn't watch well, well,
whatever it was, it was an amazing sporting event.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Two parts.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
One, I don't have to not sound harsh. This is
what college basketball coaches talk about all the time. This
is why we recruit foreign players because they just are
easier and they seem to be wired better, like we
screw up the wiring. And again I'm using this as
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the basketball analogy to baseball, which is different, and there's
different parts of the world that play baseball, celebrate believe
in baseball differently.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
But the way in which if you listen to Show
Hayes interview after the game where they asked him all
these things, like all he wants to do is win,
and he wants to go home and get to sleep
so they can wake up and win the next day. Right,
now again the cynic says, well, that's easy when you
got seven hundred million dollars coming into you over the
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next twenty years. But no, that's really how he's wired.
That's it's just different. There isn't the entitlement of the
American or maybe even the Latin player. It's just not
very very different.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
It's like when you watch American baseball players or Latin
baseball players, there's one thing that I would say over
fifty percent of them have some ridiculous chain on when
they play. You ever noticed Japanese players don't have that?
You ever knows that they just said they're they're they're
playing baseball to play baseball.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
That's what they do.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
And the reason that so many American coach like myself,
like we had a kid in last night from Serbia
and we have three Serbians on our team, and you know,
we had two Israelis last year in Australian kid and
they're just wired differently. They're wired to like, hey, I
just want to go out and like the Aussie's, I
want to go play ball and then have a beer afterwards.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Like that's really it.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
So the first thing is, like I do think there's
a purity to the Japanese star that doesn't have doesn't
have the entitlement. Doesn't mean all American players are entitled,
doesn't even mean most of them are entitled. But I
am blown away by the lack of entitlement from the
Japanese player. Secondly, there is something that I don't think
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gets discussed, and I gotta be honest with you. I
didn't listen to a ton of Joe Davis and John Smoltz,
even though I love John Smoltz eighteen innings nine innings
of extra inning ball when in the regular season extra
inning play is completely different. Right when you get to
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the tenth inning in the regular season, there's a guy
on second base to start every inning, So it's a
completely different way of playing, preparing. Obviously your defense is more.
But something that Sam said is at some point I
just wanted to get over that's how regular season baseball is. Right,
regular season baseball, they put a guy at second base
because everybody's like, we're good here, let's a rap, let's
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get this thing going. But it's there's no real preparation
for when you play one hundred and six to two
games with one set of rules, and then you play
the playoffs and there's a different set of rules, and
you can say, well, it's the same set of rules
you play the first nine and things, but we all
know that it's not because the amount of pressure and
the adjustments that are made are completely different, or maybe
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they're much just on peak in comparison to others. So
there's lots of takeaways to be had. I agree with
John Sneyder. I would ever pitch to show Io Toni
ever and yeah, it's a bad watch, but you know what,
if you can do it, you do it. Rule number
one in coaching take away what the other team does best?
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Period stop. And I'm blown away by the lack of
entitlement of the Japanese player. And I find it really
interesting that What's Gonna go down as historically one of
the greatest games ever played in World Series history, there
was not the level of pre prepparedness for it because
the regular season rules are.
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we want to talk about all things that are important
to you, right that's the number one thing. And a
quick congratulations to our guy, Colin Cowherd, who last I
was inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame. I do
think you look, Colin is a friend and a mentor
of mine. And one of the things that Colin has
(30:09):
always said and frankly taught me when I was just
a young whipper snapper we got to ESPN at the
exact same time, was don't talk about what you want
to talk about, talk about what the most people want
to hear about. So look, I'll start with the NFL.
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Last night was a complete beat down. One team is
trying to turn around their season, the other one seems
dead the water. And the one team is trying to
turn around their season came in with the inferior record.
Lamar Jackson, Ravens come in not really competitive against the Dolphins,
and today Chris Greer is let go.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
But I I gotta take.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
So word I'm looking for. I gotta take a second,
okay and call bs bs on something probably the most
powerful man in sports media had to say earlier today
was not research, not poorly researched, not research categorically misconstrued
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or even false and designed simply to feed into the
narrative that the end of the day, the NFL is racist.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I'll get to that in one second. First, here's Mike McDaniel,
the still head coach of the Miami Dolphins, summing up
the loss after the game.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
That was that self inflicted wounds that we've been putting
such an emphasis on, you know, all things related to
our operation. And in the critical fourth and one where
the you know, we're pretty fired up about the defensive Look,
it was what we were calling the play for and
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that's flat out a controllable that our team knows that
keeps you from winning. So I rate at nothing but
our self inflicted wound.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, Ok, that's Oli Gordon. He slips, he falls, he
low bridges oncoming defender, causes a penalty and they don't
get the first down because of it. And then Oli
Gordon is yelling back an assistant coach. And again, if
you watch the video, Ali fell down. He slipped, but
again it still is your fault when you slip. Whatever,
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the Dolphins were gonna change coaches at the end of
the year, regardless, the Dolphins are probably gonna have to
change quarterbacks at the end of the year or get
into the process of whenever they can get out of
to his deal, get out of to his deal. Chris
Greer was fired. That should be mentioned. He's been with
the organization for twenty five years. In those twenty five years,
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they have won exactly zero playoff games. He's been the
GM for ten years. They've won exactly zero playoff games.
And I'm not saying it's not difficult. But I heard
this earlier today on first Take, and I thought it
was so bad. It was actually offensive. And I'll tell
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you why after you listen to Steven A.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Smith is BS that's the first fire.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
Really, that's what we're doing, what we've seen, what we
just finished talking about. You know, there are things that
you need to be modified, et cetera, et cetera. But
the personnel that they have on this squad, although we're
not we're not happy with it. We didn't walk into
this season thinking they were going to be trash. We
looked at their ross and we said they got some potential.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
It was about Tua, it was about Mike mcdoniel and
the brother get fired.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
First.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
All I know is this, I better hear Mike McDaniel's
name today. I better hear Mike McDaniel's name today. But
I made it better not be just Chris Grere. And
I'm not saying that he don't deserve it because of
the way they look at the end.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
You knew you at the helm.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I got it.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
I understand it.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
I'm all for brothers as.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
Head coaches gyms.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
We know what battles I've been fighting over thirty years.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Okay, I got it all right.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
But because when you don't get the job done, you
don't get the damn job done, period.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
I got it.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Don't tell me it's just him. Don't tell me we
gonna leave Mike McDaniel's in place and we just gonna
fire him and we.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Gonna move forward. Damn that.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
I'm waiting for more news.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
I'm waiting for more news again.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I can't.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
I can't defend Chris Grere with some of the decisions
that have been made personal wise.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I got it.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
I understand it is unfortunate, but I got it. But
I'll be damned if it gets to stop there.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Oh hell no, So.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
We all heard the exact same thing. Okay, I don't
want to mislabel it. I don't want to misassociate it.
I don't want to treat it as anything other than
what we heard Stephen A.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Smith say. Stephen A.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Smith said that though he thinks Chris Greer ultimately should
have been fired because he's black, he shouldn't be the
first one fired because the problems are with TUA and
with Mike McDaniel. Now there's two different things that we
have to point out. One, Mike McDaniel is mixed race.
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His father, I believe, is a black man. Tua is Samoan.
So again, I'm not racist. I don't know how racism works.
I just don't. Apparently, in Steven A. Smith's world, because
Chris Greer has darker skin and both parents are black, well,
then the Dolphins are racist against him him more so
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than against McDaniel and TUA.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Right, that's the assumption. He talked about.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
The decisions that have been made he doesn't agree with.
Who was the general manager when they selected Tua. The
answer is Chris Greer, who was the general manager when
they re signed TUA. The answer is Chris Greer, who
was the general manager who told the owner, Stephen Ross,
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it's either Brian Flores, who didn't like Tua and didn't
like Chris Greer and didn't like essentially any offensive coach
who coached with him, and so they got rid of
him and they brought in Mike McDaniel. He hired Mike McDaniel,
He drafted Tua, he re upped to a He built
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this entire roster, And the biggest flaw in all of
sports media is one of the things that was on
display outside of you know, race baiting and creating a
narrative which is completely false and doesn't exist and is
super embarrassing to any of us in sports media, especially
somebody who's the highest paid employee at ESPN essentially calling
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the Dolphins races for firing a GM who they'd held
on for ten years despite the fact they never won
a playoff game. But here's the biggest mistake they made.
We are some of the players, we like some of
the players. That's because you don't like one. He didn't
know the roster. Second, it's not about the talent. The
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most talented teams don't win. It's the best teams that
Winky and they made. Who made the decision to trade
for for Tyreek Hill, keep in mind, you can criticize
the personnel, the wide receivers they've given to patmah Holmes
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since Tyreek Hill was traded. They've won two super Bowls
since he's been gone. Why because you don't win just
based on talent. You gotta win based on guys that
salary fits in and want to be part of a team.
Tyreek Hill didn't want that, so they Chris Greer's biggest mistake,
biggest mistake was drafting to over Justin Herbert right. That
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ultimately is why he gets fired. But the other mistakes
he's made is he's gone talent over character. They have
some guys with terrible character on that team that they've
been trying to get rid of. That ruined any sort
of culture that they tried to build. And the defense
stakes and two is not good enough and everybody knows it.
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But you have the most powerful man in sports media.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Don't believe me.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Just ask him stating something which he's forgotten, that they
fired the coach last time to keep the general manager.
The coach was black, the geno matters was black. Nobody
said anything about it except for Brian Flores, who sued
the Dolphins and so instead of actually talking about what happened,
how to fix it, who they should hire, you know,
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or whatever. Instead they label the NFL as racist, and
then there's nobody on that set that goes like, uh, hey,
you know he was there for twenty five years, he
was the GM for ten. The entire front office is
actually black with the Miami Dolphins. So they're not racist
to hire and support and promote Chris Greer, but they're
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racist to fire him instead of firing a mixed race
coach or firing a simoan or trading or get rid
of or cutting a swoon quarterback. That doesn't make any
sense to anybody with any sort of brains. But again,
the people that listen to Stephen A. Smith think worlds
out to get black people. The NFL is racist. That's
why they fired Chris Greer first. And they'll get to
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Mike mcdanees some other day. Jace do, I just want
to make sure did you hear the same thing that
I heard? Just want to make sure that I'm not
just hearing things I'm not and I'm not like, I'm
not one of these guys that goes around and tries
to find things which people call racism. And you're like,
it's not ra but like this is. It's utterly ridiculous,
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and it's it's the type of thing that I believe
has driven people away from the rest of ESPN. I
don't think all or even most of people who work
at ESPN think this way. Most of the broadcasting is
based upon the actual sports, but the race.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Bating is tired, it's done, it's over.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
And this one only proves that Stephen A does no work,
no research, doesn't actually care to do so. And then
two he plays that one card he always has, which
is racist.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Did I miss something?
Speaker 3 (40:58):
No, I don't think you missed anything. And I do
think that there needs to be some clarification from the
people over there at ESPN, like what, what where does
the mixed race fall into this? Because remember Ryan klarquast
Fall said that Lamar Jackson needs to win a Super
Bowl for US. Lamar Jackson does when Pat Mahomes is
(41:20):
one four or five, right, Yeah, And in this situation,
mixed race Mike McDaniel somehow is left out of the equation.
I just don't know how that factors in here.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah, I just again, that's say that is a that is.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
A cultural argument. That we can't.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
That's one you can't get into, right. I mean, look, nobody,
nobody crushes black people like black.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
People will do it. You know.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
It's one of the things about that, A lot of
people in the black community will say, like, hey, why
do we treat light skin people differently than dark seam
Like why do we do that? It does happen in
other parts of society. Happens in Mexico, as I think
anybody in California knows. There's always been the conflict between
lighter skin Mexicans and darker skinned Mexicans. And again that's
(42:08):
not my purview. I don't know, and I don't care.
I don't think he didn't take it. He wasn't saying
that because he's mixed raced. He's below that of you know,
somebody who comes from a black mom and black dad.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
He didn't know. He didn't know.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
He doesn't even remember about Brian Flores. He didn't know
about the whole Miami Dolphins front office. He doesn't know,
and he doesn't care because nobody outside of us and
some other people will call him on the bull crap.
But this is bull crap because all he had to
do was ask a researcher. He doesn't even have to
know himself. Hey man, give me, give me something on
(42:43):
the Dolphins, and you know what they wouldn't say. They
wouldn't say. You know, it's got a racist to fire
at Chris Greer first, because they would point out, you know,
they hired Chris Greer, they stood by Chris Greer. The
whole front office was African American. The last head coach
was African American. It doesn't make any sense, but Dad
doesn't get clicks, and we just gave him more clicks,
even if we were clowning on his take.
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