The Culture of Winning Makes A Difference

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You're listening to Fox Sports. Oh what up, America, Doug
Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio Live and Direct from the
City of Angels. We're uh. I guess the Charges called home? Yeah? Yeah.
Week one of the NFL is in the books, and

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uh last night I was one oh in one on
picks one oh and one. Both home teams were three
point favorites. A a great come from behind push by
the l A Chargers, which probably should have been a win.
Let's start there and then we'll work our way to
the Vikings Saints game. Now, let's start with Viking Saints

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is first. Mark Slayer is gonna join us in fifteen minutes.
He's a former Bronco. I want to get his take
on the Broncos offensive line and how much of that
was just a a product of being at home, a
product of some terrible play calling from Ken wizzen Hunt,
his offensive coordinator, the Chargers, or product of maybe the

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Maybe the Broncos are really good, because there were times
in which their offense looked solid, solid, but in this
era of you need a quarterback in order to succeed,
the Broncos won a Super Bowl essentially without a quarterback
and I know they had Peyton Manning, but that Peyton

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Manning through nine touchdowns seventeen interceptions in the season and
was terrible, terrible in the Super Bowl. They want they
went in spite of not because of the play of
Tom Brady. Oh, he got us into the right place.
He couldn't throw a football anymore. That's part of playing quarterback,
A big portion playing quarterback in um So. Look, I

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don't know how good Trevor Simeon is. I know he'll
never be Peyton Manning in his prime, but could he
be Peyton Manning of two years ago? Maybe may d
I don't know. Let's let's start with Minnesota versus the Saints.
Of course, it makes sense for the Saints to draft

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a running back in the second round and then signed
Adrian Peterson in addition to already having a good running back, Right,
I get that. I mean, look that the two people
most responsible for their rise are most responsible for their fall.

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Drew Brees and Sean Payton took the Saints, who had
won I believe, one playoff game as a franchise ever
when they got together in Nola, one playoff game ever,
took them to a Super Bowl, made them uh An
offense were showing up to watch and Drew Brees has

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been on this amazing run of five thousand yard passing seasons.
But the truth is that why would you even have
running backs by committee, especially when Adrian Peterson has never
been a running back by committee? When what you need
is defense by committee. Every resource they should have had
has should have been gone to go and get that

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to get the defense. But what a bunch of miss
mismatched parts. The defense is still isn't good. The offense
is good at running back with a quarterback who likes
to throw to wide receivers. Outside of that, Mrs Lincoln,
how is the show? And then there's Sam Bradford, And
this is really important. I don't believe Greg Oden is

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a bust. That's because Greg Oden was never healthy enough
to be called a bust. Right when your body lets
you down and it forever takes away your your ability
to live up to that potential, I have a hard
time calling you a bust. Sam Bradford, by many people,

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was deemed a bust. Which you have to remember with
Bradford was he'd had a different offensive coordinator every year
every year of his career up until um up until
this year. Uh. Last year, of course, Pat Shermer took

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over at mid season. Pat Shermer had been his offensive
coordinator his rookie year when he was with the St.
Louis Rams. Shermer, of course, then left to become the
head coach of the Browns. And then last year when
Teddy Bridgewater got hurt, it was Shermer who was the
rabbi in the room to bring in Sam Bradford. Now, look,
I wasn't at this network. I was in another network.
But you guys can feel free to reach out to

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the guys the other network. Or Kyle Rudolph, his tight
end is gonna join us. We had a great Kyle
was like, dude, this guy is awesome from day one.
But what do you think about Sam Bradford. Oh, he
always gets hurt, always gets hurt, and he doesn't throw
the ball deep down for you. Sam Bradford is pretty

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good last night, right, This coming off a year in
which he led the league in completion percentage, actually highest
completion percentage for a season in the history of the league.
Some of that is because their offensive line was in tatters.
They had to just get rid of the football. But
now you give him Dalvin Cook, a burgeoning star at
running back who can run it and can catch it.
You give him Stefon Diggs, who's a burgeoning superstar at

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wide receiver, and you give him an offensive line which
has been put back together. And Bradford living up to
the potential he had that was derailed by different voices
in his ear with offensive coordinators and two consecutive A
C L injuries Here, Sam Bradford, you know, I think

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a lot of it honestly started up front. You know,
our guys up front played great. You know, they gave
me time. You know, when I've got time to sit
back there and kind of evaluate things, you know, I've
got all the confidence in the world that our guys
outside are gonna win. So Bradford was magnificent, magnificent. And
for people who thought that the Vikings gave up too
much when they gave up a first round draft pick

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and I think a third, right, it was a first
round draft pick and a third for a fourth and
Sam Bradford, you couldn't give enough because in the context
of last the context of last year, there was no
other quarterback available and they thought they had a playoff
team and they probably did before injury. And in reality,
Sam Bradford's only making like fourteen million bucks thirteen last year,

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fourteen this year. That's a reasonable contract for a quarterback
in the league. And if you think he's a middling quarterback,
that's fine. That's actually low to middle middle to low
end of the starting quarterback tree in terms of what
you make per year. The Vikes are really good. I
thought they were good last year before they sustained injuries,

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and I think now adding Dalvin Cook makes them better
in the backfield. I do think the Adrian Peterson thing dope.
Everyone told me he looked great, and he did look
great running the ball. That's just a bad that's just
a bad fit. You go to a team that's not
used to having a number one running back. The expectations
are at your age, you can't be a number one

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running back. They have two other quality running backs, and
they don't even want to play your style. It's not
like they want to hand you who was the last
time who was the last New Orleans Saint to get
the ball thirty times in a game? Twenty five times
the game? Even when Reggie Bush was there and they
won a Super Bowl Reggie Bush was a versatile weapon
who wasn't always lined up as running back. They've never

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had a guy that one just seems like a bad fit.
So I don't know if the Vikings are great. I
do know that that's the perfect home opener for them.
You get Adrian Peterson, which fires everybody up. You get
a team that's not great defensively, especially a linebacker, a
team that can score, but you have a really good

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defense that kind of plays to your strength, especially at home.
All right, let's go to the nightcap. What's the hardest
thing to teach little kids? Uh ramos in soccer? I
mean maybe for you guys who would just be score
a goal, that's what these are your older girls, I
would say with my U A team, it's just how
to stop the ball and dribbling, just the basics of it.

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What do you think the hardest thing to teach and
coaching is for for me or just in general general?
Oh jeez, just the basics. I guess to listen and
and the focus and you know, yeah, I don't know
if that's is that the hardest thing? Well, there's a
lot of hard things to teach kids in sport. The

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hardest thing in coaching adults and coaching men. In coaching
a team, in my opinion, is how to win, maybe
not how to win, how to expect to win. So,
Ramo's this team that you have now they got smoke
seven nothing in your opening. Yes, same team you coach

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last year. No. No, they red the teams every year
for each division. It's a balance. They call it a
balance for soccer, they rebalanced the team's due to Wait,
so last year you were the worst team. No, we
were the We came in fourth out of six, and
they balanced you by making you worse. Well, we moved

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up in division right where you fourteen? Now last year
was you twelve? So some girls move up, some girls stay,
and that goes I'm not just girls, anybody anybody? I got? Yeah,
I got my some plays U ten baseball, he's eight,
which means eight nine correct, right, Yes, I got it,
I got I'm with it. Um. I bring it up
because I think one of the things that the Chargers

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are suffering through and frankly it's hard. You have two
new coaches and that was and look as as tough
a listen as that was last night with Beth Mullens
and Rex Ryan and uh the guy's name, Uh, Sergio Dipp.

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Did you feel bad for Sergio Dipp? I think you do.
I think we're in the profession that he's in, and
so you you want people to succeed. I do want
people to succeed. I well, it's a it's a loaded one. Um.
I understand that he does Spanish language television, right, and
having lived in Russia as a player and as a

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player and learned to speak Russian. I tried to conduct
an interview after we won the championship in Russian and
I don't think I did particularly. I think I was
really good when I stayed on message. The difference is,
I don't think it was the language barrier as much
as he completely lost his mind on TV right, like

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it was the magnitude of the moment rattled that guy.
And it's not And yes, Monday night football is a
huge stage, but it wasn't his first time on TV. UM,
look what happened last night. There's a bunch of things
we can get into and we will in terms of
the X and os with Mark Layreth, three times Super

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Bowl champion, former Denver bronco and a Denver radio host.
But the biggest takeaway is that even though the Denver
Broncos tried to do their best San Diego Charger two
thousand sixteen impression and give away the game in the
fourth quarter, give it away. Um, if you're a Charger

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fan like I am, because of the ways in which
they've they've found ways to lose games, they should rightfully win.
The problem lat the biggest problem last night was the Chargers,
or at least but assumed they were gonna lose. Everybody
assumed they were gonna lose, and everybody assumed Denver was

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gonna win, even when Denver was trying to give it away.
That's the hardest thing to coach and teaching coaching is
how to win or how to change kind of that
mindset of everybody believing we're ultimately going to win this game.
Mark Larris joins us up coming next, I'll ask him
about his former team and break down everything from Week one.

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Doug gotlib show Fox Sports Radio, Charges almost came back
and got him. Did you know that would have been
the first time in Charges history. I think we're oh

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one fifty five and one in their history, and the
Broncos had never lost a game that they had led
by seventeen points or more in the fourth quarter. But uh,
if not for uh, well, the first first field that
would have tied it by young Hoe end up being
called back because of the time out, and the second

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one was blocked, but not for that would have gone
into overtime. Mark Larry joins this former Denver Bronco does
local radio in Denver as well as a Fox Sports
NFL analyst. Um, all right, so, how much of the
Broncos last night and their success They're ability to drive
the football was based upon. You've talked a lot about

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that reworked offensive line and how much of it was
there at home? The defense is great and consistently put
the offense in good position to succeed. I think a
lot of it had to do with Now, they made
some mistakes don't don't question that mentally, wu Watson struggled
on the right side. They flip flopped left guards throughout
the entirety of the game, which I personally hate because

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it's really difficult to get into a rhythm. And I
played that swamp the guard game and um, and it's
just a really tough thing to do. But I think
there's a couple of things that that really transpired. They
gave you hope that that offense line is gonna be better.
They've been doing this with the left guard position throughout
the preseason, trying to figure out that battle. That's a
tough thing to get done. Then number two, you missed.

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Ron Leary left with a concussion, and that's I think
in the third quarter. And Ronald Leary was a big
free agent acquisition from the Dallas Cowboys. You came in
there with a kid in the second year player that
really hasn't gotten much run and Connor Government he actually
acquitted himself pretty well. Had one pressure that led to
a sack um late there in the fourth quarter, But

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for the most part, you didn't miss a beat. Most
people didn't notice that that happened. The kid you drafted
and Garrett Bowls actually played really well. Now here's the test.
I know, I said mentallygu Watson didn't play well and
he didn't man at three thirty. He gets ragged alled
a little bit, and that's because of footwork. He's not
really fluid footwork wise. But you're playing against one of

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the most formidable defensive lines. When you talk about boast that,
you talk about Ingram, you talk about Legion, they can
play me being they've got a front floor, they can
flag get it done, and so that's gotta be encouraging.
And on third downs they were eight of fifteen. You
you do go eight to fifteen on third down in
this league and you're gonna win a lot of football games.
So those things are all I think all those things.

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This has been a completely on balanced football team has
been completely predicated by defense the last couple of years.
So you put those things together with the offensive side
of the ball, and you gotta feel pretty good about
coming away with a victory on the uh. You know,
on your first game of the season, Endeavor, what about
the Chargers, What I said was, look, I didn't love
a lot of the play calling. Uh As Kenn Wizzard Hunt,

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They're they're they're they're trying to rework their own offensive line,
trying to keep pressure off of Philip Rivers had a
ton of turnovers last year, but it was it was
a lot of conservative stuff on first and second down,
and when they went no huddle, uh, you know, after
getting some turnovers late, they kind of opened it up.
And obviously that that happens with anybody when you're down
that big number late in a game. But I feel

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like the biggest thing missing between the two teams is
everyone assumed the Chargers were gonna lose no matter what happened,
and everyone assumed that the Broncos. There's just like the
culture of winning in Denver, even though they're coming off
a disappointing season, is much stronger than the culture of
winning in in San San in l A. Is that
is that fair to say? No? I think it's I

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think it's fair to say in Philip Rivers. You know,
as great as Philip Rivers is, um, you have to
look at the personnel you put around him. You mentioned
the offensive line, um, a receiving corps that let's face
it is less than you know, less than daunting, especially
for a Denver Broncos squad. Who will lock you up
in man free and just say, Brandt, this is what

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we do. You've got three starting corners that can all
flat out play. Um, you know they're not afraid. They're
not afraid to play you man and say we're gonna
unleash the pass rush and just see what comes comes
what may. And I'll tell you the other thing that
was interesting in Denver's loss in San Diego last year.
Look at the numbers of Hunter Henry and of Antonio Gates.

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They crushed the middle of the field. They destroyed the
Broncos in the underneath coverage, both linebackers and the safety position.
There's a lot of noise made about t J Ward
being let go the last cut, a lot of people
very upset about it. They did that because they felt
like they had better coverage situations with Justin Simmons. Long
Lean athletes unbelievable, Um, just physical talent. And I think

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Antonio Gates, if I'm not mistaken, had two catches and
Hunter Henry had none. So yeah, I thought. I actually
texted my friend who works for the UH for the
Chargers and asked if Hunter Henry was playing. Yeah, I mean,
it's crazy, how good they were against those guys right exactly.
So you know, I think you have to tip your

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cap to John Elway. Um. You know, and I've had
a discussion with him about the whole T. J. Ward thing.
But you know, they saw from a personnel standpoint, they
saw the next kid that was gonna play. Also kid
by name of Will Parks who got a lot of
run as well. So you know the I mean, you
think about this, Doug going into the end of the
third quarter, Um, I believe Philip Rivers was eight of

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fourteen for fifty nine yards. Fifty nine yards going into
the fourth quarter end it was like a hundred ninety
two because you know they had the busting coverage and
they hit Benjamin for a forty plus yard touchdown and
all those things. But I mean, that is that's incredible.
And you don't even have your best pass rushers, and
you know you have Von Miller, but Shane Ray was out, Um,

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Shaq Barrits just coming back. You've missed two other starting
defensive lineman rotational defensive lineman do injury for the opening weekend.
So pretty amazing what they were able to do to
that that Chargers offense, considering they had the injuries and
the different players they had to play. All right, let's
go to the previous game where you had the Saints
and the Vikings. Obviously the Vikings are gonna be better

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at home, better get off. But boy, I just it
feels like some mismatched speeches their pieces. They're in New
Orleans right, Like they're a team that likes to throw
it and not a ton of investment the wide receivers.
They got three running backs, but Adrian Peterson is not
a running back by committee guy. And then you have
a team that's desperately need a defense and their defense

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is is very, very average, and they got exposed against
the Vikings. What are your thoughts on that, that first
one in that football game? Yeah, well, I think you
nailed it. I mean, I think you look at the
personnel moves they've made here as an offense, they've always
spread it, they've always thrown it down the football field.
You've got one of the elite quarterbacks in football, the
one difference maker you had the wide receiver position in

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Brandon Cooks now plays for the New Patriots UM and
not a hundred percent sure from a personnel standpoint, what
you're doing. I saw Adrian Peterson on the sideline given
um Sean Payne the stink I and you just look
at it like, well, what did you expect? Did you
think you're gonna get it twenty eight times a game?
That's not what they do. Now. I understand being upset

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because you only got it six times or eighteen yards,
But I guess note to Adrian Peterson, you better make
those six carriage account because you to have more production
than that. I certainly would expect twelve to fifteen carries,
not six carries. But sometimes the game dictates that, you know.
Sometimes you get you get beat, um, you get beat early,

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you get behind in the on the scoreboard, Um, before
you look up, it's already you know, nineteen to three
or something some crazy score like that, and you're like, oh,
here we go. So that's kind of what dictates. But
you're right, you know. Defensively, they've been over trying to
overcome that bad defense for years and years and years
and uh, and it looks as though that they haven't
figured that one out either. UM. I would like to

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see no. I think the Vikings are outstanding defensive personnel.
I think they're a really good group. UM. I love
Dalvin Cook. I think he's great. Yeah, I think offensively
they've got some weapons. I still don't I have to
see this offensive line perform against a really good football team.
And and that's gonna be my biggest question mark because
they had wholesale changes over there. I have to see

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them perform against an elite level defense. If they can
do that, then I think they've got a chance. Because
Sam Bradford. Sam Bradford is an incredibly accurate quarterback. Um,
he's great now. A lot of underneath stuff to be sure,
but he's incredible. He has just been beat down to
a c l injuries. You know, he got beat up
in his in his days in St. Louis, UM, and

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last year he was kind of coming out of that.
I think that he could be really good if they
can protect him. If they can protect him, then yeah,
I would buy them. But I still think the Packers
are the class of that division. Um, how fixable are
the issues with Houston's offensive line? Mean, Dwayne Brown sitting
there holding out, He's got to be just I mean,
but but the offensive line was so bad it is

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simply Dwayne Brown's back and they'll be fine. Or is
there more to it than that. No, there's more to
it than that, but that's certainly would help. And it
just goes to show you. You You know, every year, Doug,
it's so funny because every year, you know, like here
in Denver, they get Ready t. J. Ward, a guy
that's under contract, and they get you know, they get
guys that they think are underperforming, are about their way out.
They ump those guys, and nobody seems to have a
problem with it. You know. Then Dwayne Brown says, hey, listen,

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I'm an elite level tackle. You need to pay me.
I'm out performed my contract. And they're like pound saying, dude,
we don't do that. Well, guess what happens you give
up ten sacks you try to single handily send everybody
on Jacksonville's defense to the Pro Bowl. I mean it
was it was ugly. You know, I was reminiscing and
you know, I hate to go you know, back in
the day, but in my time with the Hogs in

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winning the Super Bowl, we gave up nine sacks in
nineteen games nine and nineteen. They gave up ten sacks
in one game. I mean, it is that is as
ugly as it gets. And I was like there's two
people that are just grinned from ear to ear, Dwayne
Brown going I told you so. And how about brockos
father going, Thank the Lord, I don't play there anymore. Gosh,

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how how miserable was that? It was incredibly miserable. The
good offensive Lions have been the good team so far
in the NFL, right, Like, that's really the look at
the look at the Giants and Cowboys. Remember how everybody said, like,
I'm not I'm not a fan of anybody kind of
throwing gasoline on the fire. But you know, I look
at Ben McAdoo basically saying last week, I know a

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little bolton board material and whatever. But he's like, I
can't even name any of their defensive backs in Dallas.
And I'm like, oh, there you go. That's wise, Like,
that's that's one you probably don't want to throw out there.
Um and so anyhow, you know, they come out there,
they can't block their way to a wet paper sack.
And I hear a bunch of people saying, well, the
oh b J, it would be different. Why is you're
gonna play left guard? Is here gonna play right guard?

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I mean, they can't block anybody and you can't win
one thing about this and this just goes to show you,
like the skill involved in playing that position. The teams
that performed well one week one, you see teams that
struggled up front, And I'll show you teams they got
their butts handed to them on a consistent basis. The Giants,

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the Houston Texans. Um, you know there's a bust seriod
of different guys. Yeah, the c L Seahawks, that Cincinnati Bengal,
on and on it goes. And that is an incredible skill. Like,
there's no more skill involved in football than moving a
man from point A to point B against his will.
And and it's it requires, it requires incredible technique and

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everything else. And Um, the way the league is constructed
without really practicing and without really playing games anymore in
the preseason, very very difficult to do. Dallas controlled line
of scrimmage, they controlled the temple with a game that
controlled the time of possession, and they absolutely funder punch
the Giants in the face. Um, what about the New
England Patriots. Uh, their defensive line offered very little resistance

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or push pass rush against the Kansas City Chiefs. Are
are should we freak out? At all about the Patriots.
They're probably one team that I won't freak out about, um,
simply because I know they've done it before. I know
they'll be adjustments. I the one thing I worry about
more than anything. And the defense didn't get shoved around,
and they'll get that, you know, they'll they'll look at that,

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they'll correct what they need to correct. Um. But they
did get physically worn out. I think the biggest thing
for me, it's not very often that I look at
a wide receiver and think that's the heart and soul
of football team. That's kind of the the actuator of
the offense, where that's the heartbeat or the soundtrack of
that particular offense. I thought about that way, you know,
with Hines war Back in the day of the Steelers,

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or um, you know, or Steve Smith Mighty Mouse with
Carolina or with the Baltimore Ravens. Those are the guys
that I think about. Julian Ailman is that guy. He
is that dude that you can throw a you know,
a shallow cross at third down and seven. You can
throw it to him at four yards till break two tackles,
lean over the sticks, bam, first down. Then they'll get

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up talking smack to the defensive backs who we're trying
to tackle him. You know that that kind of energy.
Brady come came out of that game and said we
lack competitiveness and intensity or something of that nature. I'm paraphrasing,
but those were kind of the qualities he talked about
their football team missing, and that to me was we
missed Julian edel and and they've got to rectify that.

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Either is that also they've got to find somebody who
can be that kind of actually or that heartbeat of
their organization on the offensive side of the ball. Stink,
great stuff. Can't wait. Stee on the TV side in
the meantime, appreciate you join us here on the radio side.
That's Mark Schlaire, three time Super Bowl champion, a proud
member of our Fox Sports family. Stink, thanks for joining
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the world of sports, Fami, what are you working on?
We got news that stinks. For the Arizona Cardinals, running
back David Johnson is gonna miss two to three months
of action, will need surgery to repair his dislocated risk

(27:43):
to take his spot on the roster in the backfield
that Cardinals have brought back veteran Chris Johnson. The Indianapolis
Stars saying the Colts are considering starting Jacoby Brissetta quarterback
this Sunday against Arizona. He would get this start in
place of Scott Tolzine, who started Week one and their
loss to the Rams. Well. Multiple reports out of Houston
say to shaw On Watson was taking first team reps
in practice today in preparation for their game Thursday in Cincinnati.

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Buccaneers are going to have their game Sunday against the
Bears in Tampa. That game will go on. It will
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Week one game in Miami moved to Week eleven because
of Hurricane Irma. The matchup in Gainesville and College Football
between number twenty three Tennessee and number twenty four Florida
will go on as schedule This Saturday, at three thirty
Eastern time. Lakers are gonna retire Kobe Bryant's jersey on

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December eighteenth, when they host the Golden State Warriors, and
getting to getting to it, Doug, don't worry about it.
The reports say that not only will it be the
number eight jersey retired, also the number twenty four jersey.
Right now, Royals are on top of the White Sox
four two in the eighth inn in Kansas City start
of the day, just three games back of the Minnesota
Twins in that American League wild card race. But Doug,

(28:51):
they're a mile back of those Cleveland Indians who continue
to roll, going for their twentie win tonight against the
Detroit Tigers. And here's the thing with k they're actually
uh three games back of the Twins. But there's two
teams they have to leap frogs just to get to
the Twins. One is the Angels, I still understand other
winning baseball games, and the Rangers, who Rangers kind of
packed had packed it in as well until they decided

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not to. And then a half game back of the
Royals is the Orioles and the Mariners. One game back
is the Rays. Right like the Tampa Bay Rays are
four games, but they would have to leave frog one
to three, four, five, and essentially six teams have to
leap frog the Minnesota Twins just to get the wild cards.

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So it's like, well, it's only three wins in the
wind column, that's all it is. But there's so many
different teams in between them, and the Rays have lost
what four of their last five. Speaking of losing streaks,
here's my question you Dan, I know you care because
you love based only the sports to do Why Indians
of one nineteen a row? Right, Dodgers have lost ten arrow.
What's more interesting the Dodgers that they've lost ten row?

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Why because of the expectations of this team. For once,
I think that there was a point at the end
of July that Dodger fans actually believed in the front
office that this was this was the team that was
going to do it. In the years where they said,
you didn't get Clinton Kershaw and he helped you haven't
put anything around him. Now all of a sudden, they
think it's their year and in the span of thirty days,

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this is all gone by the wayside and they're saying,
oh no, it's us again. They have not replaced the
Cubs as a fan base that says, oh gosh, this
is gonna happen to us. That's why I think the
Dodgers are more. They lost eleven a row, they're still
nine two and fifty two right Like, there's they're still
they still are. Uh, there's still nine up on the
airs on the dia Backs in their division, and the

(30:38):
diving Backs, the team that that has beaten them soundly
recently and swept them recently twice, and also has beaten
them soundly even back when the Dodgers were good. But
um and I and my wife was giving me the
business last night. I was like, I told people they
weren't as good as a record. She's like, you said
they were gonna lose eleven rows. Like no, It's like,
but you know all those come from behind and wins. Eventually,

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you're gonna get on a bad streak. I didn't know
be this bad. Okay, here's here's one. So you care
more about the ten losses than you do the nineteen
consecutive wins by a team that went to Game seven
of the World Series last year. All right, fine, how
about this one. How many games do the Indians have

(31:21):
to win in a row for you to legitimately care.
Ramos how many games. I'm in on him right now,
but I would say, if you had to just throw
out a number, I'd say, you care like you get
a home. I understand I'm the same one. I'm the
same way, But I also have a buddy that plays
on the team, and I love Terry Francona. I means,

(31:42):
he was great to me when we worked together at
one of the other places, and I just think he's
a good dude. And my buddy who's on the team
tells me like, this is the greatest group of guys
you could possibly have. So I'm kind of I'm in
on him, But nineteen row. Most of the world doesn't care.
Between thirty guess one more tie is the record? Right?
If they win one more game? Two more music and

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I were looking this up, like if you go back
to like odd five the Chicago Windmakers, we're winning twenty
was a twenty one row, but there was a tie
in there. Is that what you told me back in
nineteen oh six? Yeah, when I was a kid. In
nineteen o six, the Chicago Barnstone Merge had one twenty

(32:30):
four in a row, although they lost three players to
dissenterry during the during the streak, which made it all
the more impressive. All right, what do you got? What
do you got music? According to the always reliable Wikipedia,
nineteen sixteen New York Giants had the longest win streak
in MLB history at twenty six games, which included one tie.

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By the way, New York Giants, Yes, they used to
be the New York Giants. That which only proves like,
just like saying worsh if you say New York Football Giants,
you proved to be really old. There are people that
say New York Football Giants that don't actually know what
they're referring to, but that's what they're referring to. They
used to have the baseball and the football Giants. The
baseball Giants played the Polo Grounds, yes, ahead, but other

(33:15):
than that, it says in nineteen thirty five, the Chicago
Cubs won twenty one games, and then more recently, um,
the moneyball A's won twenty games. Alright, so the money
but like, let's we can't pretend like we care about right,
like it's in the modern era of baseball the a's
one row music. How many would they have to win
for you to care, because I asked you and you're like,

(33:36):
I don't really care. I mean, it's like it's cool,
but I don't really care. Yeah. I think if it
got to five, I would really start being like, Wow,
that's really crazy. Why twenty five is such an arbitrary number?
Like it's the winning is the greatest winning streak in
the history of modern baseball in the last eighty five years.
Isn't that enough? Dan Buyer? How many does do they
have to win for you to care? Yeah, twenty five

(33:57):
is a good number for me. That would be interesting.
I still it's amazing to me in a sport that's
driven by numbers, Doug, that this is a number we
don't care about that. That's that was kind of my
point before Ramos like through He's like, I care care, Ramos?
When you got when you got home last night, did
you watch to see what the Indians had done? Yes?
You really? Okay? And then I stood up till four

(34:18):
in the morning to watch what the Dodgers did. Oh
with the rain and San Francisco, I didn't I didn't
know. I I was falling on Twitter like it's pouring, but
they're gonna restarts like I'm done. One of the chances
the former m v P is traded in the NFL.
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Amazing in the charge. They had like five or six
pieces you really really like, right, like Melvin Ingram. I
like Joey Boss aside from getting juked on that touchdown
run from Trevor Simeon. I like Melvin Gordon. I like
Philip Rivers. I generally like Keenan All and I generally
like although he's definitely not a blurry stuff. So many

(35:00):
injuries Hunter Henry. Who did Hunter Henry play last night?
I swear to god they never called his name, never
called his name, but steal some holes tho some holes
in that on that on that team. Let's get to
a game. This is game time side on the Doug

(35:23):
Gottlieb Show. M M M m m m. We bring
in Dan Buyer. Dan, what game we play today? We
are playing tugs Ah. What are the chances? By the way,
Hunter had to re zero targets in his twenty three
snaps last night. To answer your question, he did last night, Yes,
just wasn't involved in the offense. I actually wanted him

(35:47):
in my fantasy league. That's a completely different story. I'm
happy today and I would buy now. Yeah. Right, that's
actually a good that's a good suggestion. Multiple reports say
that Deshaun Watson is taking first team reps in practice
today for the Texans in preparation for their game Thursday
night in Cincinnati. So, Doug, what are the chances DeShawn
Watson is the Texans starting QB Thursday against the Bengals. Chances?

(36:13):
I don't think he's gonna be particularly good. I think
this is an easy, easy bet. What's the line right
now for the Bengals? I saw it moving earlier today.
I did not take a look right away. But on
second you do that radio thing where you talking, Well,
I can tell you this and I look up unless
you and Mark Schlereth we're talking about the offensive line.

(36:33):
Maybe they go to Deshaun Watson just so he can
escape pressure more. No, No, that's I think what they're
I think that's what they're thinking. They're five and a
half point favorites. The Bengals offense line was bad too,
But the Bengals just have much better players on offense
I think, and a more experienced quarterback in any Dalton
couldn't be that bad again, could he could? He? H Yeah,
I'm going with sincinnaty five and a half. I take

(36:55):
Cincinnati now, it'll probably be six and a half by
game time. Deshaun Watson is he looks a college quarterback
playing in the pros. He runs too much, he never
sets his feet. He's more comfortable running out of the
pocket than he is in the pocket. Yeah, that's uh,
that's an interesting one. Remember since a Natie Los, Andrew Whitworth,
and Kevin Zeitler this offseason, so their offensive lines got

(37:15):
some new pieces there as well. Um, Doug, some news
that kind of flew under the radar. The Major League
Baseball season is going to start on Thursday, March twenty nine. Yeah,
so March twenty n will be the start of the
Major League Baseball season, with all thirty teams in action
that day. It's the earliest start to a season, which
also includes more days off for the teams. So, Doug,

(37:37):
what are the chances this turns out? To be a
good thing for Major League Baseball. I think it'll be
a very good thing. I think in a ninety eight
percent chance, it's a good thing for baseball. Here's the
deal that they had traditionally waited they would have that
opening series on what was it, like the Sunday. It
would play overseas sometimes, but they would the opening series
would be like Yankees Red Sox, the first of the

(38:00):
fifteen series between those two teams, Like seriously, um, on Sunday,
right like Sunday Night baseball. But they realized that that
weekend is all about like preparing for the Final four,
and so you only have two games on Saturday on
the Final four. Outside there's nothing else really kind of
going on. Um, there's a NASCAR race. I'm sure. I
think it's smart. I would started even earlier. I would,

(38:22):
But now the big challenge to starting it this early
is that unless you have a dome, you have to
be below the Mason Dixon to get an opening series,
opening a couple of series. You know, sorry, dude, like
we we just can't have games being snowed out in Minnesota.
You chose to build an open air stadium. With that choice,
we're gonna put you in Tampa to start the year. Like,

(38:42):
that's just kind of the way it goes um But
outside that, I think it's a great idea. I actually
wish they wouldn't have as much time anymore time off.
They would end the season sooner, so that would the
playoffs to compete lass with football. One of the unique
things I noticed in this schedule was as I follow
the Brewers, the Brewers open up in San Diego, They're
already in Arizona for Cactus League, so they just slide

(39:02):
over play their three games set against the Padres, then
could come home and they can play indoors at Miller Park.
But it's just unique to be able to to do
something like that. And the Sunday night game they would
have before the All Star Break, they eliminated that game.
They're actually gonna move it to the other side of
the All Star Break, where the Cubs and Cardinals will
play a standalone day game on the Thursday after the
All Star Game to allow those All Stars to get

(39:24):
to the festivities a little bit sooner. On news from
the NBA, the Golden State Warriors agreed to a Jersey
sponsorship with a Japanese tech company Rakuting that is worth
the reported twenty million dollars a year. That's the highest
so far for an NBA team. So, Doug, what are
the chances the Knixer Lakers could get more for their
jersey sponsorship? Um? I actually know the number four. I

(39:44):
know the guy some one of my buddies is negotiating
that deal for the Lakers. It's a reportedly south of that.
But you know, now the market has been set. What
are the chances? I think I think the Celtics only
got like six million a year. I think for the
Celtics one, it's got ten million from good Year for ye.
Here's the other thing, though, like what is the return

(40:06):
on that investment? I don't know what recruiting is, but
I'm not gonna use it just because I see it
on the Warriors jersey? What like what literally what is
the return on that? Like at least good Year You're
like tires. I don't really end up Parnelli, good Year, Firestone,
good Year. You know it. It gets embedded in your brain.
But like recruiting is gonna make you go out and

(40:28):
put some recruiting on your pasta I don't know. Uh. Finally,
Dug iPhone tan. Yes, it reads his iPhone X, but
it's the iPhone tan released today along with the eight
and the eight plus the iPhone ten thousand dollars, a
high end iPhone. So, Doug, what are the chances you
would wait in the line for a day to buy
the iPhone ten when it comes out on November three?

(40:50):
But I will get the iPhone tent. But zero percent
chance that I wait in life is game time on
the Dug got Leap Show. Okay, I won't even buy
anything that's a retail price at the gap, right, I'll
even I go right and right to the sale line.
You think I'm waiting outside in Apple store. I'm convinced

(41:12):
that Apple stores there are people. When they opened the doors,
they already have people. They're like that are paid to
shop because there's never an empty Apple store. Ever, it's
got to be staged totally. I'm gonna say something that
sounds crazy. A former m v P is the most
overrated quarterback, and a guy who was traded for nothing
is the most underrated quarterback. That's next to the Doug

(41:33):
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Coming to you from the City of Angels. Dooon done done,
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(41:56):
join us this hour, and he Bruce Felmon was on
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college a couple of games last couple of weekends in
college football. Get uh get gets his thoughts. Uh boy,
I got a lot to get to talk some college
football in twenty minutes, and um my boy, Colin Coward
went in on Notre Dame. Why he is not not

(42:18):
fifty not seventy one hundred percent wrong on Notre Dame.
M and our thanks to the good folks at uh
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until six eastern time. Uh. And of course Kyle comes

(42:41):
on like I will be back tomorrow. So you got
the national program today. Kyle's off today, guys, he's off.
I want Kyle, not Doug. Well, here's what we talk
about nationally. What if I told you that Cam Newton's
the most overrated quarterback in the NFL and Sam Bradford

(43:02):
is the most underrated quarterback in the NFL. It's hot
tank talk get me Kyle back. Uh. Kyle. By the way,
w SGS is one of our affiliates, UM in uh
the tryout in North Carolina tryout obviously right down there
round where Wake Forest is, round where North Carolina State

(43:23):
is Carolina Duke all that stuff. It's in Winston Salem,
high Point Burlington. I know, High Point Burlington in Winston
Salem is not Raleigh Durham, I understand, but close enough
the rest of us close enough, right, same state, good enough.
But but here's the reality to it. I keep hearing

(43:45):
mixed messages from UM from NFL analysts, right, they all
say you gotta let Cam be Cam, you gotta call
design run plays for Cam. But then they also say,
he's got to get rid of the ball quicker. You
know he's gotta do It's gotta get get rid of
the quicker so it gets hit less. Wait, so you

(44:07):
want to put him in a harm's way more and
make him more of a runner and yet have him
get rid of the ball quicker. Here's the real problem.
Cam Newton's strength is going to get him hurt. It
allows defenses to hit him more, and it's not a
strength that the best quarterbacks who have lasted long longest,

(44:28):
lasted the longest, and been the most successful, have used
to be successful in the NFL. Sam Bradford while more
athletic than you think and less fragile than you think. Right, Like,
you think of Sam Bradford and you think the live
is going to break an off. Look, he's not built.

(44:48):
Cam Newton's built like a superhero, right, I Like, I
don't know what a real life superhero would look like,
but I would guess it would look like Cam Newton.
He's six ft six and half. He's like two sixty pounds.
He's he's a complete freak of nature physically, and it's

(45:10):
not like Sam Bradford's a little dude. How big would
you guess? Music? Without looking? Sam Bradford is just just
take a take a guess? No, how big? Not old?
He is nine? He I'd say six too. He always

(45:30):
has he has that weird shaped head with a helmet.
He looks like he has a tiny head inside a
massive helmet. He looks like every kid the first time
they put on a helmet that's too big, right, The
opposite of of Peyton Manning, who looks like he has
like a really big head, fairly fits, fairly fits into
a small helmet. Possibly Sam Bradford like, that's not that's

(45:52):
not a little dude. That's that's not a little dude
at all. Six but he looks. But Sam Radford is
deadly accurate, like crazy deadly accurate, not just last night,
completing eight of his passes for thirty two last year
of course, because he had to get rid of it quickly.

(46:13):
He said, the single season mark for completion percentage. The
longer you go in the NFL, and longer you go
in the NFL, the more you have to be accurate, precise,
get rid of the ball quickly. Right now, Bradford has
at times taking the underneath stuff not challenge himself deep

(46:34):
kind of like he got a little got a little
uh was it to Alex Smith? To him a little bit,
but not as bad as Alex Smith. And some of
it is more personnel based. But if you're gonna error
on one side, you error on the side of accuracy
as opposed to home run hitter. And basically the difference
between the two is one guy is a punching judy

(46:56):
get on base all the time guy the other time
swings for the fences, and while in baseball we have
started to get to the hey, we'd prefer a guy
who hits home runs or strikes out to a guy
that tries to punch and judy at In football, it's
the opposite. Football it's about getting the ball to players

(47:17):
who have athleticism in space, right and what what do
they get in a running back? What do they have
in Stefon Diggs as well? You got Dalvin Cook and
Stefon Diggs too, freak athletes. Get it to him in space,
get it to him quickly, and then get the hell
out of the way. That's a Bradford does. I'm not

(47:38):
saying Bradford is Peyton Manning, or Bradford is Tom Brady
or Aaron Rodgers. I'm not. But your perception of Sam
Bradford is he's a bottom five starting quarterback in the league.
And the reality is he's never played an offense where
they've thrown it a ton. He hasn't been healthy enough.
He only played sixteen games two seasons in the NFL.

(47:59):
Both of those two seasons, uh one was his rookie year,
the other was his third year. Last year, he played
fifteen games through forty seventy seven yards and an offense
that had very little weaponry that you could use because
they were so under darrest with their offensive line. My
guests would be this year he'll throw for five touchdown passes,

(48:23):
maybe thirty, just over four thousand yards, as long as
everybody stays healthy. My guess is that Cam Newton was
wildly disappointed. So some of this is based upon um
their own previous successes. Cam Newton was the m v
P of the league two years ago. He was never
the best quarterback in the league. What he was was

(48:44):
the quarterback for the best team, and he had he had.
They had created a system where Cam could be the
best version of himself. But in order to do that,
you gotta have a good running game, you gotta have
a good defense, and you gotta be willing to play uh,
you know, possession football, kind of like what the Cowboys
are doing, where you don't put him into harm's way,
and you got to live with the fact that he's

(49:05):
not a he's not a high completion percentage guy, so
to go from he was the m v P the
league too. I don't know. I think Cam Newton somewhere
between the tenth and fifteenth best quarterback in the league
to Sam Bradford, like, I don't think he's the best
quarterback in the league, but coming into the year, people
would say bottom five, bottom ten, and I think he's
right there in the range of a Cam Newton twelve

(49:30):
to eighteen. Didn't say he's better than Cam. He has
been hurt. Most of the criticism has been fair. But
the truth is, if healthy, what he does last longer
is more successful more often than what Cam does. And

(49:53):
Cam is viewed as a superstar, and I think he's
superstar in persona, a superstar in repute Haitian more than
how he actually plays. Ryan Music my producer. I know
the folks at w S j S. You're like, I
want Kyle back, Ryan Music, my producer, you get your

(50:13):
hand up, go ahead. Well, I was just going to,
uh you kind of started touching on it there a bit.
But we talked about this yesterday with Eli Manning and
the Super Bowl pass. Do you think it's sort of
been that way with Cam Newton recently in terms of
you know, in college he won the Heisman Trophy, he
ended up winning a national championship, so he had a
lot of hype coming into the league, and he did well,

(50:34):
his rookie year. Then he kind of started to fall
off a little bit, didn't have as much success, and
people were going, can Cam Newton be a real quarterback
in the NFL? And right around that time, he wins
the m v P and goes to the super Bowl.
So now everyone's willing to give him credit for it.
So it's like his success in college and that one
really strong season is sort of in a big picture sense,
why people are giving him more credit as opposed to

(50:55):
being a little bit more critical of his talents. I
think it's fair. I think it's fair. I think I
think what you're saying is fair, is accurate. I would
also say that Sam Bradford has made like a hundred
forty million dollars. I think that's one of the things
that that it sucks to be Sam Bradford, I guess
is that he was the last big bonus baby to
get fifty one million dollars guaranteed before he ever played
a snap, right, like not. His faulty is the number

(51:16):
one pick. And remember Sam Bradford got hurt in college,
hurt his uh A C joint against b y U
at Jerry's World, his first game of his last season
at Oklahoma, so he had been hurt previously. He hurts
his a c L twice. People think he's fragile. He
is thinner than Cam Newton, but he's not like thin

(51:37):
for a normal human being. Right. He's six four two
is a big dude. But I think that one of
the things that Bradford runs into is because he got
he was the last of the big rookie bonus babies.
He carried. People carried that bias against Bruce Falman joins
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(52:02):
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(53:35):
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Vikings football and Frankly gotta get ready for this next
weekend of games, which starts Thursday night with a dreadful
game with the Bengals in the Texans and Thursday football
always sucks. You know, it doesn't suck. Bruce Felban, he's
written about quarterbacks, He's covered quarterbacks. You've seen him on

(53:56):
the sidelines. You'll see him on the sideline of FS
one's uh us even uh it's it's on Big Fox
this week right with the Ohio State Army. Yeah one Pacific. Okay,
so you're on the call of with Brady quinn Um
and Joe Davis of Army at Ohio State now Ohio State.

(54:16):
It's not going to change quarterbacks, but Irwin Meyers said
they need more creativity and like imagination. How are they
going to do that with j T. Bartis their quarterback. Well,
I think he's took to demand more from Kevin Wilson.
You know, look, they've had issues exploiting zone coverage and
it's been going on for a while. It's only gotten worse. Obviously,
they were shut out by Clemson and in the playoffs.

(54:39):
We fought with new coaches on his staff on offense,
and it would be helped and Urban said a lot
of the right things. You know, he looked more accurate
and all this stuff, but when when Oklahoma tested him,
and look, let's be honest, Oklahoma has not been exactly
the five Bears on defense. Uh, they did not have
any responses. And I think some of that is certainly
on JP Barrett, but a lot of it also was

(55:00):
on their receivers, because I mean, they everyone says how
well they've recruited, and I have all this speed, but
that doesn't always translate into being really polished route runners
and good receivers. And that's definitely been a question mark
for that offense. But can they ultimately win a big
game with J. T. Barrett as their quarter I mean, like, look,
they won national championship, but he wasn't playing and last year. Yes,

(55:21):
some of it's their offense. They haven't been the same
since Tom Herman left in terms of their creativity offensive
play calling. But some of it is just he just
ain't that good man. You know. It's it's an interesting
situation because he got He's the only three time captain
in the history and the storied history of Ohio State football.
So Irban Meyer loves his leadership. He's a good running quarterback.

(55:45):
You know, it's just he just has not developed. If
you remember three years ago, they lost round the same
time of year against Virginiatack and Bud Foster's defense and
really took it to him and he did not play well.
The offensive line got way better then or at the
end of the year. Ezekiel Oh has showed up and
became a star. He wasn't even like an all conference
running back until that point and then he just kind

(56:06):
of blew up. So you're right, Cardell Jones is there
and they were hitting big plays, and I think JP
is a good college quarterback. I'm not sure he's much
more than that. And if you cannot beat people down
the field in the past game, you're limited whether you're
there's four or six feet And ultimately now people know
the formula if they're if they have good enough players,

(56:28):
let's not kid ourselves. Oklahoma has seven seniors. They start
on defense. We did their game in the week before.
Oklahoma does have some good players, um and some of
the people who can do damage against Oklahoma. You know,
I was at the game where Pat Mahomes lit them up.
Pat Mahomes is way more talented than JP. Barrett, and
he's actually way more talented than almost every good quarterback
out there. So they faced some good quarterbacks has left

(56:51):
them up. It's just so this is a different kind
of problem. Honestly does not play like a big twelve
team on offer. He's the big thing is fasting Bruce
Felt me joining us. Uh, you obviously working for Fox.
You've covered the league. You like the league, so do I.
But it's weird, right, like, oh, you wins the game
and looks good doing it, and all of a sudden,
all right, the league is back. Oklahoma State appears to

(57:13):
be legit as well. TCU beats Arkansas, but it's it's
almost like, Okay, Baylor's Baylor is awful, right, they stripped
that thing down. They lost to U T. S A
and Liberty and back to back games. Iowa State still
you know, in the building stages with the first year
head better had a nightmarish lost the Central Michigan. That
was a big step. Okay, and like look and like,

(57:35):
I think West Virginia is pretty good, but they did
lose the week before the Virginia Tech. Right, Texas I
think is fairly talented and may have found their quarterback
with Bashell hurt, but I mean they're still they still
got They still give up fifty one to Maryland, granted
some of it on specially. I guess the point is,
like we do this thing to where we we like
to cherry pick one or two results and assumed that

(57:55):
the whole conference is great. And I don't think the
whole conference is great. No, I don't think it is either.
I think the top of it and we'll see. You know,
maybe in Arkansas is just mediocre in the SEC. I
mean you took it to him. I've seen both Oklahoma
states this year in person, Oklahoma, they could score fifty
on anybody. Oklahoma State has the best skill talent in

(58:17):
the country. You know, their receivers are ridiculous. It's not
just James Washington. I did their games two years ago
and they had Marcel Atman when they have huge receivers.
They have athletic receivers, they have super fast receivers, they
have make you miss guys. And because of that, they
have a running back in Justice Hill, who is the
best freshman running back in the conference last years fifteen

(58:37):
pounds figure. I think he's really special. I mean, Mason
Rudolph should make a run at the hisman. Now, what
I don't know is do they have enough players and
defense two, especially in the defensive front, to be competitive
and keep it from being a forty nine forty two
game whenever they play somebody decent, because that's what I
think it could be. But those are the two most

(58:58):
interesting teams. I don't know who's third, Beth. I think
West Virginia is pretty good, they just don't have a
lot of depth. I think State is actually pretty good.
We'll find out a little bit more about them now
that you know they start to move into better teams.
But Bill Snyder has a pretty good quarterback, and I
think people just take the play case State. You know.
So the problem has been Baylor is taking a big
step back, and Kansas, which we thought were starting to

(59:20):
get better, doesn't look like they're getting better. No, not
not getting better. But but you know, I do believe
once Texas gets back to being legitimately atop the conference,
if Oklahoma can keep it rolling, um, then uh, then
it might not matter. Because leagues are perceived based upon
the top couple of teams. Link what about the big
ten um Penn State dominates Pittsburgh. Uh, Michigan looked okay

(59:45):
after beating a depleted Florida team. Ohio State loses, Nebraska loses.
How do we view the top of Northwestern goes down
and they were supposed to be a surprise team, maybe
maybe a sleeper team that could win. What is that?
The West? Uh? What do we how do we view
the Big Ten as of today? Well? They had I
thought the Big Ten a Big ten East had a

(01:00:06):
really good opening week because the two teams that lost.
Indiana lost to Ohio State, but they looked pretty good,
impressive for part of it, and Rutgers battled West Washington. Well.
Then the next week Rutgers the Eastern Michigan. They've never
beaten a Power five before that, and obviously, you know
you see some of these other results where your left

(01:00:27):
scratch your head. I think Penn State is the most
interesting team of the group because James Franklin has them
cranked up. They have a really explosive offense. Their offensive
coordineer Joe moorehead. I think he's priming for a bigger
head coaching and you get a head coaching job very soon.
McSorley fits the offense, and I think defensively they continue
to get better as they've as the rosters no longer

(01:00:48):
really depleted. I mean, we saw them go toe to
toe against a pretty talented USC team last year, and
I think they've only grown from that. Do I think
they're the best team in the in the Big ten?
You know, I didn't. I thought it was Ohio State,
but Ohio State has a real issue, you know. I
think they'll get better in the secondary. I'm just not
sure Ohio State will get better in the passing game

(01:01:11):
that much, so it's gonna be an interesting ride. I mean,
I still think it's a really really good conference, but
I don't know if I would say because I don't
know what to make a Michigan State at this point
and they were so bad last year. I still think
that the Big Tennis might be the best best conference
in college football because I think Michigan's really going to
be good on defense. I think we see the talent

(01:01:31):
Jim Harbaugh as it's just what kind of quarterback player
are they're gonna be getting as they get a step
up in competition. I was always led to believe Brian
Kelly is pretty good coach, but I don't what is
it in his his evaluation process, right, Like Brandon Wimbush
is his quarterback who who can run it some and
can throw it some, but he's just not great. Right.

(01:01:53):
And you even look back at Malik Zaire two years
in a row beating out Deshaun Kaiser in their practices.
When Deshaun kai is there is Look, do I think
he'd start on any NFL team? No, but he obviously
has the talent to be an NFL starter. As what
is it with Kelly and his evaluation to quarterbacks, because
I think that as much as anything is hurting them, well,

(01:02:14):
I'm gonna defend Brandon Winbush. He can throw it a lot,
and he's he's more has more tools than any of
those guys combined. I mean, he's got a big arm,
he's a smart kid, and he can really run. He
just hasn't played much. I think there's some similarities with
some of the issues. Texas A and M has Johnny
Maulinzell Leaves, and all of a sudden, they keep plugging
in these four or five star quarterbacks who never really

(01:02:36):
get settled in either from injury or just lack of consistency,
and they're making growing pains mistakes. I mean Notre Dame
has had some of that issue, where ever golf and
has some ability, but it's a really a loose guy
to be a quarterback. And so you've got a weird
quarterback room. Then you get my leagues out here, who's
whose personality is way different, and there's some good and

(01:02:56):
there's some bad there. Then there's Kaiser. I'm not sure
how everybody's on the same page. You also, like A
and M, you have coordinator shifts. So I just think
it becomes if you don't have a settled quarterback room.
And I would use out with Alabama here is it's
a gold standard or college football in the last decade,
they've had such a good like a position room, like
let's say there running back room where it becomes one

(01:03:17):
guy to the next guy to the next guy. It
just kind of feeds on itself because they know the
expectations and there's some pretty good chemistry and good leadership.
Now I think that's been lacking, and I think when
you have that, it's really holds you back, especially when
it's a leadership position. Quarterback is that and I think
that's one of the things that the challenge he's challenged
with there is is putting it all together, because it's

(01:03:38):
not like Notre Dame yelling at Jalen Smith and Ronnie
Stanley d and will follow as a special talent. But
it's not like they have elite talent across the rock
to this and really good players. But it's not like
they have Alabama players or l s U players or
Ohio State talent. So I think when you when you
have that couples of a challenging schedule that thowes you

(01:03:59):
a lot of herball halls and you're playing all over
the country and the questionable leadership the quarterback becas nobody
gets settled in, I think that's the recipe for for trouble.
He used four and eight last year. How safety, I
think he'll be fine. I mean, I think he can
get the seven wins. That's not a great run, but
I think they would have to owe him so much money.

(01:04:20):
And I think one of the challenge you have now is,
especially a big job like that, who are you gonna
get where? You think, Okay, this guy is gonna fit
what we Want's gonna be able to deal with the
academic challenges and not just actually getting the kids in school.
I think it's the challenges of keeping. That's the bigger issue.
And so I think, you know, I think they have

(01:04:40):
enough talent to win seven or eight games. I don't
think they have much more talent than that. But some
of these other things, I think Bryan Kelly can be
his own worst that. I mean, you know, it's these
press conference things. I just think sometimes you can't help themselves,
and it's it's a bad look when you're at Notre Dame.
I think you can get away with it if you're
at if you're at Are or Missouri or or West Virginia.

(01:05:03):
You really can't get away with it when you're a
Notre Dame, especially when you've been there a long time.
And it's almost like people forgot he got them to
play for a national title game. Yeah, and two years ago. Now,
for those injuries that you know, I think they would
have I think they would have been right there in
that discussion for the playoffs. Yeah, I mean a fiesta.
And that's with a just a just a litany of
injuries that they had. Um, Okay, we we gotta there

(01:05:25):
are there's like one or two decent games this week.
Florida takes on Tennessee Tennessee survives in their open or
take on a Flooria team that hadn't played in a
couple of weeks and had so many players suspended. I
guess this is the game of the week because both
teams have a number by their side. The game of
the week it was Louisville and Florida is not that

(01:05:47):
good in Tennessee is trying to get good. I wouldn't
put that, you know there. I mean Louisville. Lamar Jackson
won the Hives and obviously last year he looked very
goody and suspect competition. Now he's stepping way back up
in as because Clemson has a nasty defensive line eleven
sacks last week against Gus Mileson's offense at Auburn. This

(01:06:07):
is in Louisville, you know. I want to see if
Louisville's offensive line can hold up and they give him
a chance. I mean, Lamar against against Clemson's defensive front
is a great matchup plus plus he's gonna get the
ball at Ton because Louisville's defense is not very good, right,
I mean, like, and look, say what you want about
Bobby Petrino of a human being, he is a good
football coach. I mean, he knows what he's doing. And

(01:06:29):
I think we've seen Lamar Jackson continue to develop as
a quarterback, which you can't say about necessarily a lot
of you know, every other quarterback out there. That's uh.
Bruce Felban will be on the Call of Army Ohio
State with Brady Quinn Joe Davis. That's at four thirty
Eastern time on Big Fox. Also remember this week John
Big Fox, there's Texas taken on U s C and

(01:06:51):
Sam Donald. Right now, if you had to vote for
the Heisman, who would it be if Baker Mayfields he
went into Columbus and shredded a defense. I mean, other
guys to put a big numbers go. Baker's done so
far as been really really impressed. You've got any issue
with him sticking putting the flag and you have an
issue with him putting the flag in the ground or
trying to put the flag in there, I don't. I mean, look,

(01:07:11):
I know it's probably picked off from Ohio State fans.
I get it, you know, but you know, there's worse
things in the world that people can do. I sometimes
thinks people get way to to uh uh sensitive about
some of that stuff. Obviously I'm not in Ohio State
coach or players. But you know what, he doesn't have
to play them again. He doesn't have to go in there.
He could Baker Mayfield, assuming they don't meet in the playoffs.

(01:07:34):
Gets to laugh, laugh on Ohio State. Bruce Felman, Bruce,
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(01:07:55):
bumps me out about it is like I know, last
year Louisville, Uh, they beat Florida States so bad at
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game was in death alley. I just I love a

(01:08:15):
big football game in death at at Clemson. Of course,
it wouldn't be fair to play two years a road home.
Let's bring in dan By with the latest some running
back news in the NFL. Dan Yeah, the big news
from Arizona Cardinals running back David Johnson's gonna need surgery
on that dislocated wrist. Second opinion from a doctor confirmed
as much so. Johnson's gonna miss two to three months.

(01:08:37):
According to reports, eight to twelve weeks, the Cardinals will
be without their top running back. They signed veteran free
agent running back Chris Johnson, who had previously spend time
in Arizona, to take David Johnson's place. Some news out
of Baltimore Ravens running back Danny Wood had out four
to six weeks he suffered a hamstring injury and their
win against the Cincinnati Bengals this past weekend. Now the
Bengals in Week two of the Houston Texans and it

(01:08:59):
comes up on Thursday to night. Texans said coach Bill
O'Brien once again would not say who was starting quarterback
will would be for that Thursday night game. However, multiple
reports a to Shaun Watson did take first team snaps
in practice today. Tom Savage got this started Week one,
but was replaced by Watson at a half during their
loss to Jacksonville. Could be a quarterback change in Indianapolis.

(01:09:20):
The Indianapolis Stars saying the Colts are considering starting Jacoby
Brissette quarterback against Arizona. That would mean Scott Tolzien would
go to the bench. Some news from the NBA. The
Lakers are going to retire Kobe Bryant's jersey on December eight.
Gonna retire the number eight and number twenty four prior
to a game against the Golden State Warriors, Minnesota timber Wolves.
Every san Sebaz Mohammed. He's back at a one year deal.

(01:09:42):
Kansas City Royals beat the White Sox today four to three.
Kansas City now two and a half back at this minute.
Doug of the Twins in the American League wild card
race says, we look forward to night baseball with the
Indians going for twenty and whatnot in Major League Baseball.
Appreciate that. Dan if I, if I asked me a question,

(01:10:02):
and ask me any question, um, any question. Who's the
best quarterback in the NFL? No comment? Oh? Okay, who's
the best running back in the NFL? Comment? No comment?
See no comments? Somehow now no comment? They said no
comment has taken on like a whole new meaning of
its own right. So I think no comment was what

(01:10:24):
Tom Brady said because he was asked a question about
Colin Kaepernick. Hey, are you glad or are you you
paid much attention to the Kaepernick stuff? Or no? Not much?
Not much? I mean not this time yet. I feel
like I've got a lot of my attention goes in
a lot of places, so um, not much. H That
was on Kirk and Calahan. He does a he does

(01:10:46):
a weekly hit on w e I, which is a
big radio station ian Boston, and first in fairness to um,
in fairness to Tom Brady, he wasn't asked do you
think Kaepernick should be in the league? Do you think
Kaepernick should be a starter? He just they it was

(01:11:06):
like they felt compelled to ask mccollin Kaepernick question, and
then the question changed within the question take a listen
one more time to the question itself, Have you paid
much attention to Kaepernick stuff? Or no, not much, not
much time. There was there was something a little bit
before that Ramos where he started to ask in a
different way, go ahead, hey are you glad or are
you proud? That No, none of your guys. None of

(01:11:29):
your teammates sits down for the anthem. I don't really
pay attention, you know, to to that. You know, I
you know, there's probably a lot of things for me
to think about at that time. Um, but I haven't.
I haven't thought about that much. So so look, this
is tom I haven't thought about that. I want zero
part of this discussion. Nothing, No, I want nothing to

(01:11:53):
do with it. This is a no end for me,
No thanks. This is Michael Jordan's saying, Hey, man, Republican
by sneakers too, right, That's what he told his mom,
and his mom said, why don't you stand up and
say you vote Democratic Republicans? Vook? That's why. But what
happens is I was actually watching was that an undisputed
earlier today, on disputed earlier day. They're actin like he

(01:12:16):
took a side in this. No, no, no. All he
said was no. All He's all he said was I
don't really want to talk about that. But instead of
being defensive and saying I don't really want to talk
about that, he's like, I don't really pay attention much
to that. I really Again, that doesn't mean that you're
focused and doesn't mean, you're totally lying, like you can
tell a lie without being without lying, right, because it's

(01:12:42):
it's it's true. Technically, I'm sure he doesn't pay a
ton of attention to it. Like I don't think Tom
Berty cares of Colin Kaepernicks in the league. I don't
think he cares if his guy has taken knee. On
the other hand, like I don't even I I don't
even pay much atention to that. I I don't this
time of year, this time year, what time fall to
worried about apple picking leaves turning? I mean, and credit

(01:13:08):
those guys because they kind of offered him a soft
landing with Kaepernick, Right, do you pay much attention to
it instead of asking a more pointed question. But that's
one of those somebody told them they had somebody. You
don't ask him, see what he's gonna say, and then
he wanted nothing of it, and then you move on.
But at least they can say that, look, we asked
mccaeperney question. You just didn't want to play ball. But

(01:13:33):
my point to Dan was, somehow now no comment has
become a comment when no comment is just like I
don't really want to answer it and this. This does
go to show that Tom Brady is smart enough, of
depth enough that many of these guys are as well
to which they can they can get out of answering questions.
They could have been really good follow up there though,
right Like if one of your teammates came to you

(01:13:54):
and was like, hey man, you had that Trump hat.
It mean a lot to me if you don't have
to take a knee, but you put your arm next me.
Or did Belichick tell you guys specifically nobody needs nobody
kneels because their guys didn't kneel. But I don't pay
attention to that much means I want no part of
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First things first, Clay Travis the show out kicked the coverage,

(01:17:35):
Dan Patrick occasionally Rich Eisen and uh we like to
have a little fun at the expense of Colin Cowherd
as well. Colin was going in on Notre Dame not
for losing to Georgia, but because I guess his let's
take a listen, join a conference. I mean, look at

(01:17:56):
the independent programs in America right now. There's full or
Army b y you you Mass and Notre Dame, that's
now the group you're in. Join a conference again at
twenty six years old, living by yourself, independent, forging your
own path. Notre Dame's just become the old, crazy, weird,

(01:18:18):
rigid guy who's got some sort of pension going on
that he doesn't want to share with anybody, so he
lives by himself, shops by himself, eats by himself. Look
at Notre dame schedule. Look at their schedule this year.
It is a mess. It starts with Temple, then it
goes to an SEC team, then it eventually goes to
a Big ten team. Then they've got two Pack twelve teams,

(01:18:42):
and then they've got some a c C teams. What
the hell is that as a schedule? Um, well, first
of all, they kind of they actually I can't disagree
with Colin the brilliance to joining the a c C.
With joining the a c C is they get to

(01:19:03):
keep all their NBC money for all their home games,
and yet all their road games are on ESPN and ABC,
all of them unless unless they're playing against the uh
you know, when they play a Big ten opponent is
the Foxes. I think the Notre Dame Michigan State game
that you might be on Fox UM. So they kind
of get the best of both worlds. Whenever they're at home,
they get their own network. When they were in the road,

(01:19:24):
because they rate so well, they'll get a primetime spot
even if they're not that good. But the big thing
with the A c C is it takes them into
Virginia where his players. It takes them into Atlanta, where
there's players. It takes him into Florida where there's players.
Play at Miami this year, played at Florida State last year, right,
and play Florida State last year. I think at home
last year. They also remember they played at at Texas.

(01:19:48):
They play Texas because that's where the players are. They
play at Pack twelve teams because that's where the players are.
They play s C every year, they play Stanford every year.
They alternate between who's at home who's on the road.
Why they can They're the only team that can pick
and choose. We want to play where all the players are.
So their lack of success last year isn't based upon

(01:20:11):
their schedule. I would offer up that they the hardest
thing about being an independent was scheduling and by linking
up with the a c C. They settled all that.
Next year they start back anew with with Michigan. The
Michigan series starts all over. They play you know, Virginia

(01:20:32):
in two thousand nineteen. They got a Wisconsin game coming
up in a couple of years at lambeau Field. Like
Notre Dame is still a big draw. They don't have
to join the league because if they joined the Big Ten,
which has always made sense to a lot of people,
and when I was there, I always thought like that
that would make sense, it would really make sense for

(01:20:54):
but that's not who they were where they recruit from.
They'd actually be at a disadvantage in terms of financial
resources to those huge Big Ten schools. Are you gonna
put them in the Big Ten East with Penn State,
Michigan and Michigan State and Ohio State. Sounds incredible, but
also sounds like only one team is gonna win that

(01:21:15):
per year. You're gonna put him in the West, So
you get Nebraska and what Northwestern you play them sometimes
Iowa and Illinois and Minnesota. No, thank you. They're kind
of in the a c C, which has some private
schools that are a lot like Notre Dame, only not

(01:21:35):
as good at football and in basketball they recruit kind
of the same pool but from the similar resources. Only
they're located in northwest Indiana. But attacking their schedule next
year they play at Georgia upcoming in two years. Why
do they do that? That's where the players are. They
played Texas, that's the players are. They play Miami in

(01:21:55):
Florida State and Stanford and usc that's where the players are.
All this fight is over. Can you play in Texas?
Can you play in Louisiana? Can you play in Georgia?
You play in Florida, kenan play in California? And they
do that. They accomplished the goal with that sketch. Right
up coming next we uh, while we look back to
week one. The what we saw last was a really

(01:22:18):
impressive performance from the Minnesota Vikings. And I know, just
like you can't get too down on your team for
losing Week one, you can't get too up on a
team for winning Week one. But the Vikings look like
they found the running back of the future. I've said,
I think Skylie Uh, I think Stefan Dide excuse me,
is Uh is a star, And I think they found
their quarterback in Sam Bradford. Kyle Rudolph joins us and

(01:22:42):
we'll discuss did Bradford take another step yesterday? So I
Doug gotlip show? What up? Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio,
Coming to you from the City of Angels where the
Chargers are the same charger as they were when they
were in San Diego. Right close, but no cigar. Meanwhile,

(01:23:03):
the other game last night was just a whooping, a
thorough whooping, as the Minnesota Vikings took down the New
Orleans Saints. And the Saints are kind of a mismatch
parts right, Like they added two running backs, Like you
guys needed a defense and their defense couldn't do anything
to pressure. Uh, couldn't do anything to pressure Sam Bradford.

(01:23:25):
He posted the best completion rate yards per temperate total
qb are of any qualified quarterback in Week one. Not
only that, but he showed the throw the ball downfield,
posting a league high eight twenty yard completions. It was
the most by a Vikings quarterback since Brett Farve did

(01:23:47):
that back in two thousands. Remember as far as remember
his first year as the Vikings with the Vikings, that
was awesome. I like the Packers. I kind of was
raised as a Packer fan about born in Milwaukee. All
let we moved outen I was like six. I don't
know anybody who doesn't respect Brett Favre coming back into
Lambeau wearing a Minnesota Vikings jersey, beating the Packers at

(01:24:11):
Lambeau Field. That was amazing, right, But I mean, look,
brad Sam Bradford is a guy that everyone has said
he doesn't throw the ball downfield, like, Okay, he always
gets hurt. Didn't get hurt last year, and so the

(01:24:35):
question now is can he continue to throw the ball downfield,
not get hurt and get his team to the playoffs.
It's a fascinating question. Um. Look, I've been wrong about
quarterback Acquisisance in the past, but this was one to
which I totally got Remember last year in the off season,

(01:24:56):
he got a new deal to stay with the Eagles,
and then the was turned around and drafted Carson Wins
and he wanted to be traded, and people like, well,
why does he want to be traded? And the only
reason he re signed with the Eagles was because he
wanted consistencies. Like, look, I've had all these different teams
all these different offensive coordinators. I just want to walk
into the same locker room to where I have some equity.

(01:25:18):
Two years a row, and now all of a sudden,
you drafted Carson Wentz number three. We know he's eventually
going to start this year or next year. Find me
a team that I can have my own team, and
lo and behold, the Vikings lost Teddy Bridgewater. They spend
a first round pick and I think a third round
pick to get him, and early on the season it
was a match made in heaven. He actually statistically played
very well. The team just had so many injuries last year,

(01:25:41):
especially the offensive line. Last night they were great. Bradford
four point four completion percentage. We mentioned all those numbers
in the downfield throws. And one of the guys who
has been a beneficiary of Sam Bradford being his quarterback
joins us now Kyle Rudolph, tight end of the Minnesota Vikings,
joins us on the Doug Gottlip Show, Coyle, how are
you good? Man? Um? Okay? So, like, look, you've been

(01:26:06):
through this before, but to have Sam the second year,
second time around, what's what's the comfort level? You and
I talked about this last year about how you were
blown away by him when he first got there, how
much better he was than anybody told you. But having
the same guy as your quarterback for two consecutive years
now through an entire training camp, what was that experience

(01:26:27):
like as opposed to last year, Well, it was big
for us, and obviously we got countless reps throughout o
t a s minicamp, training camp preseason that we missed
out on last year. Last year, as well as Sam played,
we were still kind of playing catch up with everybody
else in the league. So you know, it was this
as I mentioned last offseason was on your show, was

(01:26:48):
a credit to Sam with how well he played, coming
in on fifteen days and notice and going out there
and starting the season as our starting quarterback. So uh,
you know, this year, going into year two with all
of us two together, we had Past Hurmer around all
off season as well, So being in kind of the
same system for two years in a row, I think
there's definitely a higher comfort level with among everyone on offense.

(01:27:11):
Eight completions of twenty yards and more, and like, look, dude,
you know, the the knock on Sam has always been
that he'll check it down, that he's really accurate, but
he likes to dump it off to keep those accuracy
numbers up. Last night, you guys were throwing it big.
You know, chunk plays. Deal in some chunk plays, Uh
stefens chunk plays. You got some chunk plays as well.

(01:27:32):
Was that the game plan because of the Saints defense
or is that more of the style to which you
guys want to play heading forward? Well, I definitely think
it's the style we want to play heading forward. Um,
And you know the thing that goes unnoticed in that
and you know, all off season it was brought to
our attention how we need to improve our downfield passing game.
And part of the reason that we were able to

(01:27:53):
throw the ball downfield is we're able to establish a
run game, which we did not do a whole lot
last season. And Uh, Dalvin Cook obviously comes in and
his rookie debut and runs forever a hundred yards And
I think you've got to give a ton of credit.
And not only Dalvin, but two our offensive line and
all those guys up front. You know, they obviously kept
Sam clean all night long, but they kind of wore

(01:28:15):
that same defense down in the run game, and uh,
Dalvin was able to rattle off a couple of big
ones there at the end of the game. Was there
ever a discussion I talked with the Chargers about this.
Was there ever a discussion about wrapping them in bubble
wrapped the entire preseason? There that is that a possibility
to keep them? Because that was the deal last year.
It wasn't that they were bad. It was like nobody
survives when everybody gets hurt, right, you know, especially with

(01:28:36):
that unit. Uh, you know, it's so much goes into
the continuity of those five guys. And you know that
no coincidence that the Atlanta Falcons are playing in the
Super Bowl last year and they had one offensive line
that they started the entire year and uh, you know,
we didn't even make it through one game, uh last
year with the same offensive line, So, uh, you know,

(01:28:56):
having those guys together, they obviously we had a couple
of position battle throughout preseason, but you know, they were
kind of able to settle in towards the end of
preseason and they went out and played unbelievable last night.
Most important question, how are the babies? They're awesome. We
actually just left swim lessons, so we had a big
day off uh got him out in the pool. They
loved the water, so it was a bunch of fun,

(01:29:17):
all right. Yeah, because and now do you sing the
songs when you're in doing Swiss uh swim lessons with
the twins, Like you're you're you actually participate in the
song singing. I participate. I wouldn't say, I'm you know,
full more on the singing side of things. Uh more.
You know, it's like when you have the ball in
your hands, you're just trying not to drop it, and
you know, I'm in the pool with the girls, I'm

(01:29:38):
just trying to make sure I don't drop them and
get them, you know, scared of the water. Uh So
you know, I'm I'm just locked in the hold time
to them. So it's awesome. Once they get to when
they're like actually like three or four, they're like swimming
on their own, then it's uh, then it's fantastic. I
will point out that it really doesn't do. It's it's
more of a bonding thing than actually teaching them how
to swim, right Like, oh no, I had swim lessons

(01:29:59):
for two years and his kid yead they don't actually
learn anything anything at Kyle Rudolph our guest on the
Doug Otlan Show Vikings off to a one and other start. Um,
but what was the experience like of Adrian Peterson being
in a different uniform. It was definitely weird seeing him
out there and seeing him on the opposing sideline. Um,
I'm just glad that we didn't see him, you know,

(01:30:22):
running down the sidelines loose like like we're accustomed to.
And you know what I saw for the last six
years here in Minnesota, So I was glad that we
were able to kind of contain him a little bit.
And uh, you know, I saw him after the game
and told him best to lot for the rest of
the year. And now I hope he goes out and
kills it. You mentioned Dalvin, Uh, what about him? I mean, like, look,

(01:30:43):
we saw him in college. We know how special it
can be. What about him though, for a guy seven
year pro for you really impresses you about the young kid? Well,
I mean as young as he is. The way that
he comes to work every day. Um, you know, he
wants to learn, he wants to find out how to
become a true pro and a professional. And then you

(01:31:04):
know his god given skill set, the patients and vision
that he has to go along with, you know, his
unbelievable speed. I think part of the reason why he
made a lot of those runs last night, we're because
of that, you know, not necessarily wide open holes right away,
but he seems to find them. And you know, you
don't have many negative runs with Dalvin Kyle Rudolph joining

(01:31:27):
us on the dougallasow. You know, you guys have this
weird schedule right where you have so many home games.
What is it, It's like five of the first seven
or at home, and then you have a stretch where
five of seven after the break, after your bye week
or on the road. Uh, that's kind of be that's
I mean like and especially considering how well used. I
guess here's what I want to get to. Last year,

(01:31:48):
you guys start out so hot, you had all those
injuries and the thing fell apart. Does that help you
this year? Do you call upon it or are the
years different individually? No, I definitely think it's something that
we are able to learn from. And uh, you know
a lot of times this offseason I was asked if
you know we're the team that started five and oh
or we the team that finished three and eight, and um,

(01:32:11):
you know, I think we're able to learn from that
three and eight finish, and you know, I think we're
an improved version of the team that started five and oh,
so I definitely think that will be something that we'll
be able to call upon this year. And uh, you know,
we really try to take a week by week. You know,
you hear that so often in the NFL. Um you know,
so we're enjoyed that Monday night win last night, but
now we've got to get ready to go play the

(01:32:32):
Pittsburgh Steelers, and we have to take that approach throughout
all sixteen games this year. How different is it when
you have a short week? You know it is, it's
it's incredibly different. You know, it's not only from a
mental standpoint going from one game playing. You know, we're
preparing so long for the New Orleans Saints, and you know,
really think back to when the schedule came out in May.

(01:32:54):
You're thinking about the New Orleans Saints and then now
all of a sudden, that game is over and now
we have five days or whatever it is before we're
gonna go play the Pittsburgh Steelers. So you know, you
have to move on quickly, and in this league, whether
it's a big win or a tough loss. After about
twenty four hours, you've got to be onto the next
week Europe only a bright guy. But as as we

(01:33:16):
mentioned your parent, Uh, there's a growing discussion, maybe discussion
has always been there inside the league. If a guy
is gonna hit you high or hits you low, wish
you prefer. I am of the side of get hit high.
You know, I'm a bigger guy, so most of the
time guys are going low. Um. But you know, I

(01:33:37):
feel like I can protect myself and you know, kind
of get a shoulder in there if a guy's gonna
hit me high. When when you get hit low, there's
not much to protect yourself, especially when you're not looking.
You know, when it's a ball down the field and
you know, I'm looking at the ball and someone comes
in and hits low. Uh. And I think that's where
you see a lot of the injuries, kind of like
the O'Dell one that we saw in the preseason. You're

(01:33:57):
going into Pittsburgh this weekend and for people to know
you grew up in Cincinnati, like growing up in the Midwest,
is there still and maybe it's different now because you've
been in the league so long. Is there something too
going and playing the Pittsburgh Steelers on the road. Yeah,
I mean it's gonna be my first time. You know,
we played Pittsburgh the last time in London, and this
will be my first time going to Pittsburgh since I

(01:34:19):
went to that stadium when I was in college and
we played the pitt Panthers. But growing up in Cincinnati, uh,
you know, the Steelers came to Cincinnati every year and
you know, the Bengals will go and that was such
a heated rivalry. Uh you know, and I grew up
kind of around that. So I know what it's gonna
be like going into Pittsburgh this week. It's gonna be
a tough test, but I'm looking forward to it. I

(01:34:39):
can't believe the Dogs came in and beating Notre Dame.
I just I thought freshman starting quarterback at Notre Dame.
I mean, I look, I didn't think that Notre Dame
was great this year, but I definitely didn't think that
was a game that they were gonna lose. I know
you watched it, what were your thoughts. I thought it was,
you know, obviously a tough loss. Like you said, I
think that was a game that they had to win,

(01:35:00):
especially when Georgia's quarterback went down and they bring in
a true freshman quarterback starting for the first time. Uh,
you know, you thinks out alone would kind of give
them the win playing at home. Um, but you gotta
give credit to George's defense. I think, uh that front,
they got a couple of rushers that are really talented.
Linebacker that's extremely talented. So you know, watching those guys play, uh,

(01:35:21):
you know they'll be able to kind of carry that
team while their quarterbacks out. Yeah, that that Godwin catch
was pretty special to It reminds me of Stefan. Yes,
Stefan's catch was nice. That Godwin catch with one hand
in the end zone was was freaky good as well.
It was, and it was one of those things as
soon as they went to the first replay, you know
it's gonna be reviewed and probably overturned. It was an
incredible catch, all right. Listen, man, congrats on the touchdown reception,

(01:35:45):
on the wind, on your health, the health of those babies,
safe travels to Pittsburgh, and we appreciate you join us
on Fox Sports Radio. Thanks for having me, Doug, I
appreciate it. It's got Kyle Rudolph, good dude, good tight end,
very good player for a very good team. The a
sot of Vikings healthy and loaded for Bear. We'll see
how they play against the Pittsburgh Steelers this Sunday. That's

(01:36:05):
the game that's on Fox. It's the hardest thing to
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live show Fox Sports Radio. Kind of like a one
or two game weekend in college football. It's a this
is a like if your kids got I don't know
how people with kids do it. How they Uh, I'm lucky.

(01:37:53):
My girls uh aren't like in the soccer age anymore, right,
and they're sport you can kind of drop them off
and not pay attention to him all day. So it's
more my guy. And they'll be weekends which we're out
of commission. But Saturdays can be really hard. Sundays can
be hard. So different on the West Coast to East Coast.

(01:38:13):
Like West Coast you get up in there's games like
on right away. East Coast you kind of got the
whole morning to yourself, like your little guys got soccer, baseball, football, whatever, Like, hey,
all the games just need to be over by noon,
and then I'm good and then I want everyone, all
the kids to go outside and not pay attention to dad.
Let dad sleep in or drink beer on the couch
and watch football day. Right. West Coast is harder um

(01:38:36):
and then East Coast. The other part that I actually
like is like, you know, my kids are still pretty young.
They go to bed pretty early, and so they may
see a little bit of the seven thirty games. Like
last weekend you had that weird three games at four thirty,
and then the USC game was five thirty, and so

(01:38:57):
all the games were on at once, and all my
children room where and my wife was awake, so it
wasn't nearly like They're like, what why you change the channel?
Like because I want to watch a different game, like
we were watching that game like so they like, look,
ain't about you. I gotta get my multi TV set
up going again. I had to call back, spend some

(01:39:18):
more money, spend some more. Ramo's his money. That's not good.
I actually love Romos. Doesn't know I lived next door
and ideo I'm using this table exactly. What's what's going on?
Thanks for the WiFi too. Who knew that your your wife?
I could have something to do with Jay Moore. It

(01:39:39):
took me a while, but I gotta change that. Yeah,
you do. You do have to change that. The baseball
thing is so weird, so weird. I was. I was
laying next to my wife last night. We're watching watching
the I was trying to watch as of course they
do this to you, which is so we have like

(01:40:02):
kind of two little TV rooms, right, It's like a
family room that I think in any other house wouldn't
have a TV, but we have a TV in there.
And and that was supposed to be like the adult
famdo room. And then there's one like that which really
the or man, that's like the living room, I don't
know family, and then the family room has another TV.
This is the current house, right, and so what happened

(01:40:24):
was we This is a weird This is a weird
story for people who haven't caught up with Doug Gottlieb's life.
When I was at CBS, the first two years of
five years stint there, I lived in southern California. We
lived in one house. The first year we lived in
the second house of this house. The second year we
moved away for three years. We came back. We're now
in the exact same house for and I didn't own

(01:40:44):
the house. I'm renting the house just I stayed in
touch with the real or. I like the house, I
love the space, I love the neighborhood, and the timing
worked out. Boomer in it the last time we were
in the house. The family room, I like it. It's
got like a brick fireplace, It's got a little bar
in it. It's got this cool like where you put
your TV, and you could I'm gonna put multiple TVs
in there. But it's kind of dark. It's like a

(01:41:08):
darker like uh something kind of like dark like you
know it smells them hugging. No, it's it's like a
darker wood. It's got Actually I got a brick floor
as well, so it's kind of a dark room and
what's otherwise a very open, kind of California style, a
lot of natural sunlight house. So my wife is like,
I don't want to sit there in the dungeon and
watch TV. I'm like, well I do. She's like, well,

(01:41:30):
you don't run this house. I do. And so she
put a TV in like the living room, which has
like a it feeds out to the backyard and you
like walk in and there's a TV in there. So
she's like, that's the adult one. This is the kid one.
So last night, like I watched TV in the kid
area because I'm basically a child, and I'm watching and

(01:41:52):
the Chargers intercept pass score, touchdown, recover of recover, fumble
score touched. I'm like, now it's it and good and
she's like, I'm going to bed, which like it's really
hard to go, like, all right, du this is the
right So when we have a TV in the bedroom,
which she technically is correct, but I like watching them

(01:42:15):
with the volume up right so I can hear it.
Up up, like not to the deaf person level, but
to where he's like, hey, do you have a hearing problem?
That level? Plus as bad as Rex Ryan was calling him,
and he was bad, you couldn't hear him. It was like,
somebody you need to kind of be a jerk to
the audio people and go like, hey, dude, crank came up.

(01:42:37):
You can't hear him. So she's like, well, she's we
actually text each other in the house. Do you guys
do that? Do you problemist you ever do that with
your wife? Yes? From the bedroom right in another part
of the house. And it wasn't like she was sexting me.
It wasn't like it was just like why don't why
aren't you watching in here? So now I got like
the guilt on and like, all right, you know, wait

(01:42:59):
till commercial right go in And then I'm getting ready
to turn on the where's the remote? I don't know,
I'm missing like valuable seconds of this game. And then
the game's on and she's now she starts with the talking,
which she's very bright, she's very interesting, and I hadn't
really had a deep, thorough conversation with her because I

(01:43:19):
got home and had my son at baseball practice, and
we made dinner together, and then we did homework and
to work on with the kids, and then the football
game is on. So I hadn't so she's right, we
hadn't had an actual conversation, but can we wait? The
game is over anyway, so we do the I do
the what's new in your world? And she tells me
what's doing her world. We discussed the children in her world,
in her life, and then she's like and she does

(01:43:40):
the propobrial what's new in sports? And I was like,
do you know the Indians in one nineteen a row?
She's like, no, Like do you know the Dodgers And
at the time they lost ten in a row? In
the middle of the night, they lost their eleventh in
a row. Like now it's like it's weird, nobody cares.
The weirdest thing ever in it, like those are to
the Dodgers were on. She's like, I thought she told

(01:44:03):
me the Dodgers never lose. They did never lose until
now they can't win. She's like, that's strange. It is
strange because at first they were doing it, they were like, well,
we're not using our top line pitchers. Now they are
still can't win, Like it doesn't matter what they do,
they find a way to lose, which reminds me of
something I want to tell you about the Chargers last night.

(01:44:23):
It was a little bit of reversal of fortune. I
desperately the Chargers were very good to us, okay, and
I do like the Chargers, but I also because of
how many games they lost that they should have rightfully
won last year. I did think there was a little
bit because I was explained to my wife on how
um in baseball, baseball guys always talk about one run games.

(01:44:48):
When when you if you won like ten more one
run games, then you've lost eventually even out most of
the times over a hundred sixty two almost all the
time over a two year stretch, it evens out. So
if you have a year in which you're kind of lucky,
the next year you're gonna be unlucky. And I was
telling her, like, look, we discussed this a little bit
in terms of the Dodgers, not as much one run
games more at the like, you know, you go back

(01:45:10):
a month ago and they like thirty eight come from
behind wins, and I was like, that doesn't seem like
a good a good way to live when you get
ready for the playoffs, because the bullpens are loaded up
on the better teams and you get behind and now
you're playing catch up and you're swinging the pitches early
in the count instead of working, and the starter station longer.
And then they got the setup man, the closure and
good night, drive home safely. So I didn't predict the

(01:45:32):
demise of the Dodgers, to which she started turning this
into the are you a narcissist? And everything comes back like, no,
I'm just you asked what was up with me? And
by the way, the game's on and then the the
Chargers are about to tie it. But I was thinking
that I was watching the Chargers and maybe it's because
I fell into the trap of reading Twitter. Maybe it's

(01:45:54):
because of it's Young Hoku. Young Hoku is the name
of their kicker, which, yes, I can say, you can't
trust young Hoe, right, can I? I'm allowed to say that.
But he's lining up for what would have been a
game tying field goal, and he actually made the field
goal only Vance Joseph called the time out to ice

(01:46:17):
him right, And then we discussed what everybody discusses. We'll
bring in Dan buyer, Dan, do you believe icing a
kicker actually works? No, you don't know why not, Because
I think that if you could get the kick off
that it's it's actually beneficial for them to be able
to swing through once oh, to get a warm up kick.

(01:46:39):
If you can get that kick off, it's more beneficial
for the kicker then too, So I just let him go.
I think the decision as well of the kicker thinking
is he gonna call time out or not gonna call
time out? I think that more plays than into their mind. Yeah,
I like the idea of calling it. I would call
I would call it earlier than they called it. Now
if you watched it young, ok, who actually got the

(01:47:01):
first one off and it was pure, I mean it
was pure. The second one I think he actually hit
pure as well. You can't tell whether it's got some
sort of curveball, but it got blocked. Anyway, we get
into this discussion about about it, and I turned and
I said, like, look, I don't actually think the Chargers
lost on that. On the on the field goal. If

(01:47:22):
you watch the last drive, like third and one, they
run into line they take forever a line up, they
got a call time out even you go back to
the previous possession. The play calling was terrible. They get
nothing out of it, so they had to They had
the ball twice with chances to kick a field goal
and tie or to actually win the game. That's how

(01:47:42):
much Denver spit up all over themselves and had no
offense and was completely scared, shriveled up into a ball
on the in the corner, much like the Chargers were
last year. Like they were, they were saying to the
Charge like, please win this game, Please win this game.
Take it from us. We don't want it. And the Chargers,
this is the hardest thing to coach and coaching how

(01:48:03):
to win, how to believe, how to make everybody in
that we're winning this game. Because every coach walks in
the locker room and says, we're gonna win this Sunday,
we're gonna win this Saturday're gonna win tonight. Here's how
we're gonna do it, or whatever. But getting them to
truly honestly buy in and believe, and it's it's hard.
When the Chargers have they had a bunch of turnover.

(01:48:24):
Sure they changed the staff absolutely, but they're still wearing
that lightning bolt. They still got Philip Rivers. Most of
those guys have still been there last year, and this
is a franchise that is stuck in the at the
end of the game. The expectation is they're going to
find a way to lose instead of find a way
to win, and they did between not getting lined up,
having to call a time out, not getting a first

(01:48:45):
down on third and one, when you for whatever reason,
run a handoff play out of a shotgun, uh, not
blocking on a field goal in which your young kicker
just made and will make again. Like these little things,
it's really really hard to teach, and hard especially when
you haven't coached before. And it's one of those things

(01:49:07):
that some of these coaches, if you meet them, be like, man,
that guy is really confident, borderline arrogant. It's because they
feel like they have to give off that air so
that the players kind of buy it. Speaking of Dan Byol,
let's find out what else going on when he got
damn yeah, young Way who could have been the hero
last night if the first one would have counted Instead,
Chargers fall short. The Cardinals are gonna be short of

(01:49:28):
running back well kind of, David Johnson's not gonna be
with the team for the next two to three months
of action. He's gonna need surgery to repair has dislocated risk.
The team did sign veteran tail that Chris Johnson would
spend time previously with the Cardinals to take his spot.
Kirwin Williams likely to get a lot of action to
the backfield as the Cardinals take on the Colts coming
up this Sunday. Colts are still deciding on who's gonna
be their starting quarterback is The Indianapolis Star says the

(01:49:50):
team is considering starting Jacobe Brosetta QUB instead of Scott
Tolzine against Arizona. Texans said coach Bill O'Brien would not
commit to a starter for Thursday's game against since an Ay,
although reports out of Houston say that Texans rookie QB
Deshaun Watson took first team reps today. That game against
the Bengals is Thursday. Buccaneers announced the team will be
able to host Sunday's game against the Bears, Titans, and Jaguars.

(01:50:13):
He's on for Jacksonville on Sunday, and when the Ravens
face the Browns and their home opener, they'll be without
Danny Woodhead, the running back, is out four to six
weeks because of a hamstring injury. In the NBA t
wills with Sanstebaz Mohammed. He's back on a one year
deal where the Lakers are gonna retire Kobe Bryant's jersey
prior to their game against the Golden State Warriors on
December eighteenth. Not only will number eight go up in

(01:50:33):
the Raptors, so will Kobe's number twenty four's He wore
both during his twenty year NBA career. Danny Ka Patrick
leaving Stewart Hoss Racing after six seasons, and what a
way to start your day, Dug in Kansas City. Just
in the first there goes deeprightfield. I told you could
smell it gone Brandon loss Like that was a Grand

(01:50:54):
Slam call. By the way the Royals Readio Network, it's
all they needed against the White Sox winning four to
three today to within two and a half of the
Twins for the final wild Card. I'm not a Grand
Slam first inning, but that's what you get with Kansas City.
Uh yeah, he was. He was not exactly fired up
about that. There that's the home run. This amazing treatment

(01:51:16):
we win again and Gibson around second. I just want
we'll be back with Pauls game after this. Have you
ever called played I played him? Yes, yes, high school
and uh high school football or baseball? Both? Yeah, both
basketball and football. Yeah, I did back in the day
in Wisconsin. UM Wesley Matthews the NBA, Yeah, called his

(01:51:39):
high school games at Madison. So yeah, that's about the
extent of it. Though I didn't call college softball once
went into the game, Doug true story doubleheader because as
part of the deal you had to do like certain
non revenue sports and I didn't know if it was
seven or nine innings. First game took forty seven minutes.
It was amazing because it was a one nothing game
in seven innings. It's like strike there, you're out, alright,

(01:52:00):
three up, three down. That's that's great, that's funny. It's um,
I've actually done high high school basketball. You know that
suckers are over in like our thirty and you're like,
this is amazing, this is about what we're done. You're done.
And and I remember when I was at ESPN, we
I did that hoop Hall deal one year up in Springfield, Massachusetts. UM, anyway,

(01:52:22):
I remember like they're like, oh, you got three games?
Like oh three games, Like, we'll pay it for all
three games. And I was like okay, cool, and then
it was like an hour thirty. I was like, wait,
I get I get paid the same amount, right, I
don't get like like pro rated because normally college games
are two hours, right? And uh and um I actually,
you know, speaking of game time, can I share with

(01:52:42):
you the greatest time story ever? Well? Right, stuck gotling
show Fox Sports tradeo here. That's the voice of Dan Fire,
Ryan Music producing. Our technical director at least for now
is John Robbins. Oh come on now. Uh so this
is like, uh, probably seven years ago, maybe eight years ago.

(01:53:04):
I get a call. Uh he runs. He's like an
executive with NBC Sports Network now. His name is danced here.
He originally hired me at ESPN to do basketball and
he picks it vone it bro, I need a solid
I go, okay, whatever you need. Dan. He's like, I
need you to do get you off radio for the
night because I used to do a nighttime radio or
doing an afternoon radio at the time. I don't remember.

(01:53:26):
I need you to do Cincinnati versus De Paul. And
you know, DePaul is not good now, but back then
they were in the Big East and they were worse, right,
like they were terrible. He's like, but alright, silver LINI,
silver LINI, okay, whether permitting you can fly in day
of alright. So look, if you get up in the

(01:53:47):
morning and I'm living outside of you flied Hartford Springfield Airport.
B d L is the airport code, And if you
leave at seven, you're in Chicago at eight. And of
course Chicago hair like literally the arena, all State Arena
or all tell Arenano what it is? I think it's
All State is right there, like it's off the runway

(01:54:08):
Rosemond horizon. Right, if you veer off the runway, it's
gonna take out and it's not gonna take out houses,
is gonna take out the Rosemond horizon. So I actually
caught like a I'm gonna say, a nine thirty flight
which I was supposed to gets like a six am.
I'm like, who's gonna know, right, nine flight land there
at ten thirty. I'm at the gym at like it's

(01:54:29):
that close. So we're in there and we're getting ready
to and he all had also said, like, if you
can get out that night get out. It was a
six o'clock tip, and there was a there was a
flight leaving at eight forty six, last fight right at six.

(01:54:50):
Now it's a six scot game. College basketball games generally
last two hours. That's the window is two hours, so
it's like an eighty s So I'm like, I'm gonna
do it. So I'm on the flight and my buddy
book Shambi actually was calling the game, and he's on
like a nine oh five to jf K because he

(01:55:11):
lives in or jfkre to Laguardi as he lives in
New York. So we set it up with the with
the Paul that one of their managers is gonna drive
us because to get up this is before Uber. So
however old Uber is it's probably like two years before that.
Right to get a cab. He knew exactly what side
of the arena is supposed to park on, which feeds

(01:55:32):
you right to the road, which feeds you right to
the airport, feeds you right to the terminal. You know,
it's exactly where the American terminol is. It takes five minutes.
And remember it's De Paul against Cincinnati, Like what's the
overender and attendance on a Thursday night to Paul versus Cincinnati, Right,
five thousand people maybe maybe. So the game is moving

(01:55:52):
along so fast, right, and we get done with the
first half, and we're like, we gonna be short. We're
actually gonna have to fill until two hours. Right, We're
gonna to do some interview on the court or something
like that. And once you know it, the palls down
like twenty They come from behind, they start hitting three
after three, after three, and Mick Cronin's calling time out
after time out of time out. We're like, no, no timeouts,

(01:56:16):
no timeouts. We want to go home and the game
and the game ends up ending at seven fifty nine
seventy nine. So then we go out. We go to
get the h to meet them. The managers supposed to
drive us. He parks on the wrong side. We gotta
run to the other side of the red We get in.
We don't get in the car until eight. He drives

(01:56:37):
us eight. I'm at I'm at security, like eight thirty.
I'm through security and I'm O. J. Simpson and through
the airport. Has the plane has a Has the plane
left yet? They're like, what planing Harvard like now? We're

(01:56:58):
not even born yet. Let them my bed that night. Amazing, amazing.
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(01:57:21):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, Terence West from the
Ravens gonna join us tomorrow. Running back Ravens Daniel Jeremiah
is gonna join us so to his Kirk Ference Iowa
head coach Fresh Shop winning the side Hawk Trophy. Great game, Uh,
that's always a hotly contested game in the state of Iowa,
Hawkeye state. By the way, let's get to the press,

(01:57:43):
shall we the press? Dan buyer, what you got from
lots of football and hoops to talk about? We start
in the NFL. Cardinals running back David Johnson got that
second opinion on his dislocated wrist and it was the
same as the first. He's gonna miss two to three months.
He will need surgery to repair the injury. DUG David

(01:58:04):
Johnson out eight to twelve weeks and they signed Chris Johnson. Oh,
this is what I would do if I was an
older player, exactly. By the way, what what Colin Kaepernick
should be doing. Just ready yourself so that when the
starter goes down, you are prepared and you can step
in and play right away. It's harder at quarterback than
it is at running back. But I've never understood guys
that like even the Adrian Peterson thing, like signing with

(01:58:26):
the Saints, that's a bad fit. Instead, wait, somebody loses
the starting running back to which you're gonna get the
ball twenty times a game. You've got Adrian Peterson would
be a good fit in uh uh in Arizona would probably.
He's probably healthier than Chris Johnson is. Chris Johnson was
all speed and led the league and rushing and had
two thousand yards in a season. But you know you're

(01:58:46):
going back more than a half decade ago for that year.
Baltimore Ravens had one of the more impressive wins, going
on the road and shutting out Cincinnati last week. Yeah, Joe,
you did all right. Your numbers weren't really off the chart.
Is more of a defensive effort, but you're gonna be
without running back Danny woodhead Joe for four to six weeks. Yes, yeah,
you know you are. He's out with a hamstring injury,
according to the NFL Network. Sorry, I don't know why

(01:59:09):
Joe Flacco was interrupting us, Doug, but I couldn't hear
anything between Joe Flacco. What was the actual update? Who's
gonna Danny woodheads out four to six weeks? Okay, well
that's that's good for Terence West. Yet, the Indianapolis Star
says the Colts are considering starting Jacoby Brissetta quarterback Sunday

(01:59:32):
against Arizona in place of Scott tolzen Um. I hate
to be this guy, but Prissette can't play. He's not
very good. I mean, like Bill Belichick got over on them.
They're like, oh, you need a quarterback, wed Rememory. You
beat the Texans. Actually, Edelman play. Edelman actually threw the

(01:59:53):
ball better than Jacoby Prisett. And again he's fine, we
can run a bunch, which you're gonna have to do
with that offensive line. I'm telling like the look, here's
the real reason I was giving you that Colts pick
two and a half weeks ago is I have a
couple of friends are in front offices, and I was
watching them play the Cowboys just getting dominated and they're like,

(02:00:15):
My buddy texts me, He's like, hey, are you watching
the Colts? Like yeah, they're like as bad as their
defense is, Tolzine is worse. Like he can't he can't
start at quarterback in the NFL. Great guy can't start
at quarterback. If he starts, they have no chance. So
that's where it comes from. And I think the Colts
realize that. But I just people are coming around to
what I've said about the Colts man that they've done

(02:00:37):
everything wrong in terms of surrounding Andrew Luck with talent.
And then Chuck BEGANO great story, but they should have
held on the Bruce arians Bill o'bro Bill O'Brien of
the Houston Texans would not commit to a starting quarterback
for their game Thursday against Cincinnati, but Doug reports say
that Deshaun Watson was getting first team reps in practice today.

(02:00:57):
Sometimes coaches do this because they don't want to put
pre from a player. Um, I know there's a quarterback
in the NFL. What's his name? What's the backup of
the Caroline Panthers Anderson Anderson story. Here's the here's a
true story about Derrick Anderson, which he can he can
say it's not true. But I know when when he
was in Cleveland, I think, right, I heard this from

(02:01:20):
somebody on Mangini staff that remember he was he was
that Derrick Anderson was in the Pro Bowl one year. Yeah,
they had a great year. Who was their quarterback that
they trade away? Charlie Whitehurst? Right, they trade away to
Seattle after like one week or two weeks of this.
That was the Titans. I believe that did that. The
Chargers now the charge. He came from the Chargers to Seattle. Okay. Um,

(02:01:42):
So anyway, Derrick Anderson became their starting quarterback and he
went to the Pro Bowl when I was the next year.
I think Mangini was the coach next year. Whenever he
would name Anderson the starting quarterback for the start of
the week, Anderson would get too tight, too nervous, like
overthink things like super preparation guy, and he would stink.
And so if he's like the game advice like hey,

(02:02:04):
don't name him starting quarterback at all, and then like
the night before the game, tell me he's a starter,
and he'll be much better off and he was. So
maybe that's the case here that I just don't want
to put too much pressure in the kid. Lakers are
gonna retire Kobe's number eight and number twenty four prior
to a game against the Warriors on December eighteen because
eight didn't get twenty four didn't get along with Shack.

(02:02:25):
Eight got along with everybody, right, And that the way
it was. I think I put both numbers up in
the rafters on one jersey. Is he gonna have two jerseys?
Maybe they'll put a home in road. Maybe they'll do that.
That's the lamest thing ever to pick one number, one number?
How about this number for Carmelo Anthony. That's where ESPN

(02:02:47):
ranks him in the top one of the NBA's current players.
Mellow took to Twitter and responded, quotes can't make sense
out of nonsense. A certain darkness is needed to see
the stars at ESPN. Don't be so blatant with the
disrespect hashtag. Line them up they have They have Alonzo
ball ahead of him. They have Alonzo ball out hasn't

(02:03:09):
played a game in the NBA. What number is he?
I mean, that's bad and that's the press. Get out
there and pressed that was the press. I mean, I
don't know how you rank guys whatever, but karml Anthony
has sixty four and Alonzo ball at sixty three, Like,
come on, man, I can't do it. You'd have to
play an opening around game in Dayton. Vin Booker at

(02:03:34):
he's in the playing game. He's in the playing game.
You only do that when you're trying to like you're
trying to get seen. When I've done rankings and people
freaked out about him, it is because I know they
take the aggregate, they take the average, and I've ranked
teams a little bit lower because I know ultimately some
teams are overrated. Alright, I told you Cam Newton's overrated

(02:03:57):
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