The New NBA Has Arrived

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A Door Jackson, first round pick of the Tennessee Titans,
is going to join us in fifteen minutes. Let's quickly though, UH,

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bring you back to what happened last night in the Association.
The Warriors were well, the Warriors dominant, and then they uh,
they showed their dominance in the fourth quarter, and I
turned it off when it was twenty. I have no
idea the final score. I was like, that's the game,
let's move on. But I was fascinated by the first game.

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That was as good of a basketball game as I
have seen. And unlike most of you, I watched a
lot of basketball. That was a He came and of
course the headliner is Isaiah Thomas, who was last pick
of the NBA. Yeah right, He's five ft nothing, hundred
and nothing. He's like the real life Rudy. He wasn't

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actually offsides like Rudy was like, Isaiah Thomas is an
unreal story. And if the story of five ft nothing,
hundred and nothing from nothing isn't good enough. I give
you the fact that, uh yes, his sister died right
before the NBA playoffs. They were down two games and

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none after his sister died, losing two games at home
in the Chicago Bulls, and sure they got the benefit
of gen Rondo somehow breaking what do he brake his thumb?
He broke a bone in his hand, which kept him
out for the maid of the playoffs. But since then
they won six consecutive games. Oh yeah, by the way,
he had he lost a tooth in game one, had

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oral surgery. Between game one and Game two, his mouth
was still sore. And then he went out on the
on his dead sister's birthday and dropped fifty three, including
wait for it, twenty nine points in the fourth quarter
in overtime. Outside of the Michigan basketball team surviving a

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plane crash and then winning the Big Ten Tournament and
then getting to the Sweet sixteen, I'd like, I hate
to put incredible turnaround stories with filled with the motion
against each other, but I'm gonna do just that. What
a remarkable story this thing is. Here's Isaiah Thomas after
the game. So numb this morning, I mean, so swollen,

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this morning. I had to go back to the hospital
just to get a few minutes to to get the
swelling down because I could barely talk. So but I
know once game time came, my my guys will get me,
get me going and give me the energy to go
out there and try to win a game. And then
of course, the speaking of his mouth, here's what he
had to say about playing for his late sister. I

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had talked to Brad and it just wasn't a good
day for me, with with it being my sister's birthday,
me being in the hospital for three or four hours
a day, and I just didn't have the energy. But
once I got around the guys and got to the arena,
I felt like I can go, and I told him
I could, and there's no way I can't play on

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on her birthday. I mean, I wanted to win for her,
and I wanted to play well for her. So luckily
we got to win. That was crazy, well, I mean,
just a crazy game. But what happens is we get
we get caught watching the shiny stuff and we don't
see kind of the inner workings of it like that.
That's kind of who we are as guys. I've said
this before, Like, I'm a Rims guy oftentimes, like most guys,

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like I get caught in the rims and not how
good is your actual car? Right? No, but the Rims
are sick, dude, Yeah, but your car is broken down
inside the road. But right, but the Rims, Like forget
the Rims. And that's to me the part that so
many people are There's just so many different layers to it.

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But first, how they acquired Isaiah Thomas. They traded Marcus
Thornton and the Cavalier's first round pick in two thousand sixteen,
which is like the worst first round pick you can
possibly get right right for Isaiah Thomas. And of course
that's the second best trade that Danny Ainge has made.
The best trade he made was Paul pierced, Kevin Garnett

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and Jason Terry and like a bag of balls for
three first round picks, one of which will likely be
the number one overall pick in this year's draft. And
I like, I love Cowherd, but he keeps like, why
didn't they make a trade? Would you trade with that guy?
Like if Danny Ainge gets over on the last two

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trades he makes, And there's other moves that he's made.
But if he gets over on the last two trades,
he makes like you're sitting there getting read for the
NBA drafting, Like, damn, Danny Age has another brooklyn nets pick,
another Brooklyn nets pick. It's not top three protected. It's
not top three protective, Danny. When Danny Ainge calls you
and you're an NBA general manager, it's like when me

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and you get a call and it's an unidentified number
and you pick up and they say, ah, you've won
a free trip to the Bahamas. Right. Actually, now, if
you heard the new you know, they have this new
way of doing hello, Hello, Hello, Oh hi there sorry,
bad connection, and it's a recorded thing. It's really good,

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like drown are good and smart. But there's a like
there's a possibility there that you could actually get a
trip to the Bahamas. And all you gotta do is
walk around the time Share when you get there and
pretend like you're interested, sign your name up, put it
on the email. Like. Look, if you start getting the
emails from the timeshare people, you can just block it, right,
But the fact is you are so hesitant because you've

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heard stories of other people getting these free trips. And
then getting fleeced and having to pay money. And you know,
it's the reason that people that, it's the reason that
car dealers don't say used car anymore. You know what
never knows that? Right you go by a dealership, what

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do they say? Pre owned? There's also pretty loved and
there's certified. Is that a used car? Nope, certified pre
owned car? Like but it is actually used? No, no, no, no,
that's not a used car. That's a pre owned, a
pre love, a certified pre uh pre owned car. And

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the reason they don't is because you've heard horror stories
of the guy in the super cheap suit with the
colorful shirt, the atrocious tie coming at you, going, hey
that that this is a great deal. Gotta move it today,
gotta move it today. You just your immediate guess is

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that you're somehow somebody something's up to. It's the same
thing when you see like I'm sure a lot of
these preachers, like I think Joel Ostein like I'm not Christian.
I watched Olstein like he's got a pretty good message,
but I'm so hesitant to ever sit down there watch
I would never let anybody send money, not because I
think he's but I've seen enough Preacher, but that's not
my Mercedes bands. That's the Lort Mercedes bands. Right. I've

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seen enough guys that have a Bible one hand and
a bottle booze and the other that I can't buy in.
That's Danny Ainge is at GM. Like, the story of
the Celtics is not just how good a story Isaiah
Thomas is. It's how they got Isaiah Thomas. They're gonna
get the number one, two or three pick. He went

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and got Brad Stevens, who's like this. The other story
the last night was if you notice all these highlights
every time he scores, he's doing so against the center
of the power forward for the Wizards. There's a kind
of genius to that. And you watch what Brad does
and how he does it in order to create a mismatch,
which is coaching and then the other like just get

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another realm to it is. We are in a transformative
period in the NBA, and if you haven't paid attention, like, look,
the Celtics are the ultimate small ball and I They're
not ultimately gonna win a championship. They're not going to
get to the finals with this roster based upon who

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they need to get through. But I looked out last
night and you have Isaiah Thomas five ft nine maybe
at point guard, you have Avery Bradley six ft one ish,
you have Terry Rosier another combo guard, and at time

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or or you have Marcus Smart, Like none of those
guys are taller than six ft two. And then Jay Crowd,
who's like six five on a good day, playing the
power forward. And they're all standing outside the three point line.
And our Horford is a traditional power forward playing center,
picking and popping nobody in the lane. Now the pieces

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are different and bigger for the and and the and
the movements a little bit different. But what do you
think the Cans are doing? Right? Kevin Love plays in
one corner. When they bring in Channing Fry, he plays
in another or a way out wide. Their point guard
slash power forward is Lebron James. The only guy who

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cuts and rebounds towards the basket, runs towards the basket
is Tristan Thompson because he can't shoot right. Then you
look at the Golden State Warriors, same thing except for
j Paulia. Then then you look at the Houston Rockets
Clint Capella Outside of that, they're shooting threes or getting layups.
Like the future is now now and it's no different

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than the digital age in media. How we tell you, Like, dude,
I love our our our affiliates, and we're going to continue.
If if your local affiliate doesn't carry us, tell them
what are you doing? This is a good show. I've
listened to the show for years. To other networks, is
not that hard to make the switch. We're on satellite radio,
which anybody who gets a new car gets gets free

(11:20):
satellite radio. And we got the I Heart app and
that's and and you'll hear all of us, anybody doing
radio pumping their absent. Why because everybody's on their phone.
And the second you get in your car, you plug
your phone in and you're on Bluetooth, and you might
forget about the radio. You press the button, it's the
same thing. You're still listening. Again. Future is now in media,

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future is now in the NBA. And don't believe me,
just watch Last Night And I'm not trying to diminish
it anyway. Isaiah Thomas fifty three on his late sister's birthday,
Like that's the stuff. That's a movie that that I
think gets greenlit in Hollywood, but I'm not sure that.
Aren't people going like, come on, man, really, Like all right,

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I get the part of the script where his sister died,
like that's terrible, but he lost the tooth and then
he has dental surgery and then he has to go
back to the hospital, Like why do you have to
go back to the hospital? Can you They send the
script back and they go, can you clean that part up?
That's just you know, like and and I get that
he hits the can't we just haven't at the game
winning shot, but like struggle in the game, like fourth
quarter in overtime, that's not believable. Like this is Hollywood.

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Anything can happen, but that can't happen. It just did,
it just did. We'll take it. A football up coming
next door Jackson and the USC is a Tennessee titan Um.
Now he's made it to the NFL. What about the
possibility of the Olympics. We'll discuss with him next m

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talking or popping zits or whatever they do instead of
actually sending out doing their jobs, and they send it
to me and then I'll tweet it out. M I
might have somebody else actually do it for me, just
because it's really hard for me to press end. That's
a very difficult task. Dori Jackson's gonna join us in
moments out of USC of course. Uh. Doris actually originally

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from St. Louis. Everybody thinks you know West Coast kid,
because that's what happens with broadcasters. Sometimes you look at
where you went to high school, like, oh, that's where
he's from. He started high school in East St. Louis,
actually in Belleville after outside first went to elementary school
East St. Louis and then went to Belleville, and then
from Belleville came to California and was a three sports star.
But I'm intrigued by does making the NFL? Does that?

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Does that mean there's no more? No more Olympic dream membories.
A long jumper didn't qualify based upon his NC like
he had a terrible jump at the n c A
Championships in sixteen, and then he didn't qualify at the trials.
But I mean, he's the type of just freak athletes,
freak catholic, which is kind of something similar to what

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we're talking about in basketball, which is you want there
is there's a need for versatility. Don't get me wrong,
you still want to have tangibles at at one like
one primary skill. But the idea that Dori Jackson brings
a bunch of kick returner, punt returner, defense, probably play
some offense too, uh. And I think the fact that

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he's a multi sport athlete, as so many of these
guys are, just proves like he's more than just ceball,
hit ball, football player. Dorri Jackson joins us on the
Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Rated Dory, How are you
good man? So take me through the emotions of the
night before the draft. If you look at a lot
of those big boards, you know, and everybody has their

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mock I think Pete Traegerant Fox Sports is one of
the only ones who had you going in the first round.
What were you thinking heading into the draft? Um? Based
on the team visits, I had a lot of the
teams the coaching staff said I was going to go
in the first round. So I didn't even look at
no my draft at all because my drafts aren't the
coaches or the GM So all the GM's was telling me,

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we for sure see you going in the first round.
We just don't know when you're gonna get picked up.
So off that by opinion that I had from them, Um,
I was certain, So I didn't pay attention to anything.
And my agent said I was gonna go between fifteen
through twenty. So from him saying that and then the
teams that was like picking through the twenties. We're saying
they don't know if I'm gonna be there when they're
up to pick. It gave me a lot of confidence,

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and you know, it made me some reassurance that Okay,
I can go to Philadelphia, go to the draft, and
I'll be worried about um everything goes all right. So
so you're in Philadelphia at the draft and you see
guys start to go, uh, did did you? Were you
having good feelings? Bad feelings? Take me through the feelings
of actually being filled up because a wild scene to
us on TV, but we don't know what it's like

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for you personally. Uh, for me, it wasn't um. It
wasn't bad bad scene. It was a great seeing to
be there. So when all the other guys were getting
picked up, me and myself, I was just on the
phone actually playing Domino, was waiting until waiting for my
name get called. So for the first um first pick
through fifteen, I was playing Domino the Domino straight through

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the whole time there, and then I would say around
fifteen through until I got picked. That's when it was like,
I felt like the waiting game man. So I wasn't
I didn't have no awareness of the time or what
was going on from one through fifteen. But once I
stopped playing the video the Domino's game at fifteen through,
I say eighteen, that's when I was like, oh man,
this is taking longer than I thought. And I got

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there at five o'clock. I didn't get picked up to
around like eleven thirty five, so it was kind of
kind of crazy enough. I was there for six hours
just waiting till my name get called. Okay, so the
phone rings, right, did you did you know who it was?
But like before, like before the phone like when the
phone rings, you look at the number like how did
how does that actually work? Um So it was crazy

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because I didn't know this story. But two they said
Corey David's cell phone wasn't working, so that's why they
called my hotline number. So I didn't know who was
calling my phone. So I just picked up the phone
like hello, and it was Mr Robinson know how you
how you doing? How he's doing? Uh? So tip of
three second even respond and so I want to think
up the phone like all they frank calling me? And
once I got there and he was like, yeah, we

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only called that hotline number the phone because Corey Davidson
wasn't working, was bad reception, so we call that and
was thinking, you know, it's gonna be all right. So
I didn't know who was calling my phone at the
time until I actually picked up and he was like, oh,
it's John Robinson from Tennessee. Uh you ready to be
a Titan? And that's what I figured out he was
there on the phone. Um So so then it becomes
a reality and there's a lot that you have been

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through personally, you know, like your mom's battle of breast cancer,
of course, became widely publicized your move uh in high
school from say Lewis to uh Bell Milton to southern
California because it was a better environment. And of course
then to SC and all the coaching changes while you're
at SC, and then the depth of your your grandmother.

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I mean, like that's a lot to go through. But
when you actually know you're going to the NFL, does
do you remember all of that? Is it just the emotion?
Like during that actual moment, what goes through your mind? Oh? Yeah,
you remember everything? And it's like a sense of motivation
and a sense to keep going to drive. So um,
thankful the things that I went through and all things
that I've been through. It was a testament of God

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having said to him, I understand that I can get
through anything, um, just believing to him. So um. But
by me doing that, it's just a great uh feeling,
a great fund of rejoicing and a release of all
the hall work, all the trials and triminations that have
paid off. And now I'm here. But I can't stop working.
I got to keep grinding and dedicating uh my my
talent and dedicating on my dreams uh to two things

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that have been put in front of me, and as
in my past. What what's what's your future like in
terms of track and field. I mean, I know you
tried out for the Olympics. I know that's been part
of the dream. Have you. Have you thought about whether
or not you're gonna continue to pursue that while while
being in the NFL. Yeah, I thought about it, but
then my thought was to make sure that I'm focused
on football and football and all this so that that

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is no. Um. I would say gold of mine is
to go out for the child. My home dream now
is to play in NEXTI Football League, to be able
to treat me, be able to produce and to make
a name for myself and then help this team out
as much as I can. So I'm thankful for them
giving me an opportunity to get my foot in the
door with the organization of Tennessee and you get to
go to nash Vegas with the great growing cities in

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in uh in the United States. Now, did they send
you the offensive playbook or just the defensive playbook? Everybody
wants to know how versatile they are gonna let you be. Um,
they sent me the decent the playbook and they talked
to me about going on both sides of the ball.
So for the people in Tennessee who are thinking, the
people in the world who want to know how they
were use my versatility. Uh, they said, it just might

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be a possibility, and you might catch me on Sundays
or whatever, maybe playing on both sides of the ball.
Dory Jackson of the Tennessee Titans joining us Doug Otlip Show,
Fox Sports Radio. You know, there's been a lot of
talk about guys sitting out Bowl games four Net side
out one, McCaffrey's oude at one and and my takeaway
was was maybe the opposite. You know, we're champion, the
fact that they were top eight picks and they didn't

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go in the bowl game. But guys, look at how
the stock of somebody of your guys or even Penn
State guys because that game was not only so well watched,
but played at a higher level than a lot of
regular season games. There's a lot of guys that benefited
from playing in a bowl game. Now that you've been
through the process, how beneficial do you think a bowl
game is? I think the ball guy has always been

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official because somebody will all be always be watching. Um,
you never know who's gonna be at the game and
who's watching, who's checking you out? So, um, I don't
no matter what bowl game it is, and somebody's gonna
be looking at you. And I think it helps out
all players from no matter he was not supposed to
be undrafted guy and you end up going in around
you didn't expect getting because you're playing that bowl game,
or the guy who's supposed to go second round and

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go up to the first round they want to wherever. Maybe,
So I think those games are able to boost you up.
And then sometimes it doesn't hurt you, as you see
with the letter for Nats or the Christian McCaffrey's but
sometimes it's it's a it's a it helps you boost
up your stock. Um, are you I black in the NFL?
Are you still going six eight? You're gonna go SI
and three one? Oh? Like, what's what's the eye blackness
say when you when you play your first game? U? Nothing.

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I don't want to be fine. I'm cheap, you know,
I don't want to know nobody's finding me for anything,
but they allowed me to doing. And of course I'm
always stay roots and stay tired of my six eight?
Uh do you know do you know there's no state
income tax in the state of Tennessee. I found that
out of the day I got drafted and which was
pretty cool. And then the teams that we do play
don't have that as well, Like we're playing tech as

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we play in Jacksonville. So it's gonna be uh, it's
gonna be a good time. Did you buy yourself something nice? Me?
I haven't bought anything yet. I'm still I still go
to school, so I'm still living off my my stipend check,
which is eight hundred nine seven dollars a month. Now
I'm working with UM, so I don't have no money. Technically, UM,

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I do, but I don't know what I'm saying. I
don't have no bonuses. I didn't take any money from
my agents. I didn't do none of that extra stuff
because I mean, you know, you gotta pay a bag
sometimes I said, you don't. But I just didn't want
to be depending or or trying to get out and
reach out for money. And I've never been money hungry.
So that's why I've been using that eight hundred nine
seven dollars a month to give me through. It worked
my first three years there, so I don't think it

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should hurt me. Now, Um, you know we we mentioned
your grandmother. Tach McKinley lost his grandmother. Of course she's
rival U C. L A. He was a first round
draft pick. He kind of stole the draft with his
emotion and with that picture. What did you think when
you saw Tach McKinley. Uh, I'm just exciting to fired
off on him. You see all the things. I didn't
know that when he said he was used to having
the bad and uh, once he got to his dorm,

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he wasn't used to it, so he still slept on
the floor. It was just a little things that you
don't understand what people go through, and an emotion. It
was just wrong motion that he had said a couple
of words. But in that moment, you gotta understand, you know,
all the things everybody hasn't been an issue, so you
don't know what he's selling and what he's going through.
So you can't knock someone for their own experiences. So
I was excited and happy for him all the things

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that he'd been through from what out of out of
bread because I really don't know much of him or
about him, but to see him get to where he's
at today it was the blessing Dori Jackson the Tennessee Titans.
How do you like? Look, you're a humble dude from
humble beginnings and you're just entering your professional career. Do
you have any checks and balances in place so that
in five years, if we have you on radio, you're

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the same guy. You're not going third person like, how
are you gonna keep yourself in check? Uh? I mean
just keep on doing. I've been doing for keeping good
faith to understanding that, and guy gave it to me
to take it away. Uh, in a heartbeat, So I
know that. Uh. And I'm just gonna always be the same.
You know, I have people text me all the time
just nextually you don't slit you up for change on me?
But I never will. And I said, man, I moved

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from bill Well the kind of point you I didn't change.
I went to UFC. I didn't change. I was like
this this really doesn't excite me or or you know
the same or the glory like it's cool to have.
I'd rather spend it with the people that I've been
here with. The ones is been little to me. So
I don't change up for the fact that because if
I was in that position, I wouldn't want somebody to
change up on me. So I just think about everybody
else and everything else and that prospective. I proposed that

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teams like the Browns, teams like the Niners, teams that
don't have quarterbacks should wait until next year because you
have Rosen. But more than anything, you got Donald. Uh.
You saw the transformation your offense went through with Sam Donald.
Do you think that will translate in the NFL? UM?
I think so. Sam Donald is a great quarterback and
these points for him to do the things he did

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on the high level take us from Uh. I think
it was a not eight to six year last year
ago to tennant three go to the Rose Bowl. Um,
you've just seen the type of clarity wasn't then to
be very developed. And from the coaches staff that we have,
so I think those guys a get us ready. You
got coach Pendergrass, Coach Bradford, coach back to getting us
already on all three assets of the game. So you
have coaches like that and players like that wanted to

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learn the skies and limits. So I think it will
trans like to NFL. So whenever he does declare for
the draft, he better be number one. Well, look, dude,
I love the fact you're still getting that that that
scholarship stipend, still using it smartly. Can't wait to see
you in a Titan uniform, either catching classes from Marcus
Mariotta or stopping uh Andrew Luck. In the meantime, Uh,
stay healthy, and we can't wait to see you play

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in the Nation Football League. Congratulations, thanks, bring our guests.
All right, it's a Dory Jackson of the Tennessee Titans
joining us on the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox Sports Radio.
You heard him saying like, hey, look, I've survived on
eight D How much of the eight hundred forty six
dollars and forty six dollars and stipend? Uh? There are
many and of course they have cost of attendants as

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well at USC, but there are many that claim college
players are pros. The n c A has claimed they're amateurs.
One commissioner says they're neither and they're both that after
we find out what's trending, So Bob Bulsby and we'll

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we'll grab him occasionally. He's great. The commissioner the Big twelve.
I consider him a friend and f O D he's
invited me to be on in some some symposiums, and
they have these forums. The Big twelve has with kind
of the evolution of college sports. Doug got Leaves Show
Fox Sports Radio eight seven seven nine nine Fox eight
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hate labels. Anybody's hate labels. And by labels, I don't
mean like clothing labels like you are a this, You're
a yeah. Ramos is like what dude like Rama's like
labeled out like he's got he's got like Nike, he's got.
He's like a NASCAR driver with all the different sponsors
he has on his clothing. Like you do know this

(27:22):
version of the Doug out the show not on TV
rama's not yet, not so they they listen to always
be in sales mode. Not yet. At some point, then
you can be that NASCAR driver like why is he
Why does he have that huge Polo logo shirt on?
You don't even like Polo, Like he's trying to get
a sponsorship deal anyway. Um, I just hate the idea
of labels, like people ask like, what's your political views? Like,

(27:46):
my political views are all over the spectrum. Why because
they're my political views, they don't have to align with
like your liberal or you're conservative, right, Like do you
want to pay more in taxes? Not really? Not Like,
well then you're conservad Like no, no, no, I do
think there's a there's a necessity. But I think i'd
like my tax dollars to to work for me, right,

(28:07):
I like my schools to be better, my country to
be safer, my roads to be better. Like I'm not
asking that much, like so I will pay, I just
want to see some sort of return on it. And
I you know, like, look, I think that there's some
adjustments to me what you're like, don't label me. I
actually believe in the death penalty, but not for most
cases because I don't think it's cruel and unusual, considering

(28:29):
there are murderers who were cruel and unusual in the
way in which they murdered other people. Right, so you're
a conservat like, no, No, I actually believe in infirmative action. Well,
you're a liberal. No, I'm Doug Gottlieb. Right, I have
my own beliefs. So the point is that you can't

(28:51):
label people, and you can't necessarily label things because there's
a The reality is the world is gray. It's not
black are white, it's just not. I'll give you an example.
Bob Blesby told the Night Commission on inter Collegiate Athletics.
I don't think they're amateurs. They're college athletes. But he

(29:13):
also said, I don't think they're professionals. And you're like, what,
I'm not going to get into that. You could write
the book on that. But professionals are being paid and
amateurs are doing what they love for the love of
the game. But those are different than the college athletic environment.
We typically characterize athletes as professionals or amateurs. Right, I
don't think college athletes are either. I think it's a

(29:34):
completely different genre of its own, doesn't exist any place
else in the world where higher education and sports participation
are linked are co curricular and that makes it different.
That's that's like a wicked smart word where you're just like,
what the hell is co curricular? Okay, curriculum is what
we do in school. Co curricular somehow means co is

(29:54):
tying together? All right? I got the general gist of
the word, right, Like, that's what you're all doing right now.
Let's not act like we have to use co curricular
in in a sentence. And then he goes on to
say kind of like I just said, Oh, I never
I never know who shares my views and who doesn't, right,
Like I don't either. I don't either. And people ask
about like I've been asked like, what do you think

(30:17):
about abortion? I think it should be I think it
should be legal. I think it's it's an incredibly difficult decision.
I don't think the government should decide what a woman
does with her body. I just don't um If that
doesn't align with your political views, that's okay. That's kind
of the basis by which our country is based upon,
is we have different views. But I don't ask for
you or anybody else to align with my views. I

(30:40):
don't and no where do I want to be labeled
because of them? Are they professionals? No, they are not.
You know why because they don't pay taxes on any
of the benefits in which they received, and they can't
be fired from their job for poor uh, for poor
um performance can. Matter of fact, everything the n c
A has created is so that you have a higher

(31:02):
recividous rate, so that you have people coming back to school,
coming back to college. They want to create an environment.
They they have the the a p R which grades
out every school based upon are you are your student
athletes progressing towards graduation and if so, we reward you,
and if not, then we're gonna punish you. That has
nothing to do with athletic performance. It's really hard to run.

(31:25):
It's harder and harder now to run players off. But
I also would tell you it's not like you're there
the rowing team and it's simply for the pure love
of the game. Now, look, if you ask me, do
I think college athletes should be paid? The answers no,
because they kind of already are. It's it's not a
fair trade. It's an unfair trade. And excuse wildly in

(31:46):
the favor of the student athletes, it just does. Having
lived that because all of all of us who went
to high major university, high portion us couldn't get into
the school. Forget about whether we could pay for it,
couldn't get it. And do you know how hard it
is to get into school. It is ridiculous because, for example,

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in the state of California, this is where international students
love to come, and schools would rather have international students.
You know why, because they will pay more money. So
you're not just competing with the best students in your state,
You're competing with the best students in the world. They
have more money, it's more valuable to them, and oftentimes
they have better UH test scores coming in. So just

(32:30):
getting in is a financial benefit which there is no
there is no compensation for. Then, once you're in school,
you're getting training in your athletic field as well as
in your academic field. Like you don't crack use textbooks.
When you're a student athlete, you have unlimited tutoring. You
have they give you an iPad, they give you a

(32:51):
computer that you can use at your disposal. I'm not
even talking about the dorms, the food. And then you
have the coaching side of the training staff, and the
fact that they're promoting you as well, which is like
a marketing department, all all which is trying to grow
your personal brand if you know how to use it.
So I think it's not even a fair trade. I
think athletes benefit far more from it. But I also

(33:14):
understand that there's the realities of the revenue generating sports
men's basketball more than anything football that is not the
same as the rowing team or the cross country team
or the rugby team, you know, which is like a
club support or whatever like but you know, or it's
not like any other scholarship. It's different. Well, let's be honest,

(33:34):
you're not a professional. Well they should, they should show
they should have a union. Well what what would they
want if they had a union. They would want fewer hours, Well,
you can only practice twenty hours. They want medical insurance.
You already get that, You already have all the benefits
of you you know, you don't do you don't pay

(33:55):
union dues. So I think it's actually a really smart conversation.
The problem is like we just we shuffle people to
the your liberal, your Democrat. You gotta be a pro
or an amateur and Bob Bowles, who's like, hey, it's
kind of in the middle of the world is gray

(34:15):
and I think it's gonna get lost in the headline.
I really do. I do. Manny Machado was mad as
hell and he's not gonna take it anymore. Boy crazy weekend,
Boston and Baseball. We'll cover it next. Doug Ala Joe Rosan, God,
is that spicy Fowler just came in and he does

(34:38):
a great job on our social media Follow us on
Twitter at Gotlip Show or go to the Facebook page
which he is personally assigned with fixing ah ah. He
brought in um tacos, which, uh, we don't know each
other all that well, guys, but if the answer is like,
there's two things to which you get me, you got

(34:59):
me every time, Well the napp is the but I'm
talking about food items actually make it three? Um wow?
Is that spicy one is? Um? Like? Look, if you're
ever you're like single guy, you're bacheloring it because your
wife's out of town. You go to the store, you
need something to eat. What do you do like, there's

(35:22):
never a time when you walk past the cooked rotisserie
chickens to which you're like that's a bad decision. That's
always a good decision. That's a really good go to.
It's it varies, like you got a whole foods is
like most places a lot like it's seven whatever, the
rotisserie chickens at a grocery store, that's a that's just
a great option, great option. Uh. But my personal favorite

(35:45):
home cooked meal is tacos because there's a million different
we can go turkey, meat, you can go pork, you
can go um, you can go beef. Obviously we will
do the pulled pork as well, poor pulled pork tacos,
which you can then put some barbecue sauce on. You
don't have to go Mexican style and go like Southern
style whatever. Like there's a bunch you can do fishes, well, well,

(36:06):
you can cook some salmon on the grill and then
make fish taco like tacos are always a good like
you got me with tacos and then like if you're
gonna take me out to eat, you go like, hey sushi,
I'm in, So there you go. Now we're starting to
know each other. But like I eat anything. Last night
I went to a great Italian place or of mind
took me there was amazing, um, and like nobody can
actually turn down like good pizza, Like let's be honest,

(36:28):
like no, no, man, It's like, look, honey, I'm just
not strong enough to turn down that. If your wife
is ever negotiating with you, you can't ever turn that down, right,
you can't turn and you can't turn down pizza. And
I don't think you turn down tacos. So Fowler comes
in and uh, he's like, hey, I brought you tacos,

(36:48):
which is like, okay, I'll do whatever you want. And
he brought me a bacon stuffed jalapeno taco which sounds
about as bad for me as it looks for me,
but I took a bite and it's the list just
and then the kick said it, who I love tacos?

(37:10):
Wild Week in Boston, Uh, Yankees. Yankees are the best
team in the American League. The Red Sox, of course,
kind of again continue to remake their pitching staff, and
they did so by acquiring Chris Sale in the off season. Right, so,
Chris sales first pitch to Manny Machado was at least

(37:33):
four ft behind his back. This, of course, is the
day after Adam Jones was called names that to which
I don't even know how these human beings actually exist
in this unearthed Like Boston don't play down to every
negative stereotype about Boston sports fans. Huh, why don't you?

(37:55):
But the Manny Machado, the fact that they always throw
up Manny Machado, and Manny has had just absolute enough
hit me, hit me, Go ahead and hit me. You know,
I don't let this keep lingering around and you know,
keep trying to hit people. Now, MOBI should do something
about hit the pictures out there with balls in their hands,
throwing a hundred months power trying to hit people, that's

(38:17):
who I could go up there and and and crush somebody,
but I wanted to. But you know what, I'll get
suspended for the year, and the pitchers don't get suspended
for two games. That's that's that's that's not that's not
cool as hell. And I'm not trying to take this anymore,
Like I really like many with Chadley is one of
like my five or six favorite players to watch play
in Major League Baseball, and uh, he obviously did not

(38:37):
mince words should be pointing out like Chris Sale, who said,
like whatever, man like Mookie Betts is the same guy
in the same spot in the batting order. So Chris
Tale got it, got hit. So Chris Tale went and
through it like it was. It was low, it wasn't
at head level. It didn't hit him. And then by
the way he struck out man with child but Chiddle
did hit a home run later in the game, kind

(38:57):
of made his point. But like he's kind lost his mind.
They're in is there clearly in his kitchen? They just are,
Which is the whole idea with the two things you
want to accomplish when you're throwing at people is one,
you gotta stand up for your guys. That's what Chris
Sale did. And if you can get into the head
of somebody who's really good, also also great. I love

(39:18):
this part of baseball. Baseball's police itself quite well for
a hundred years. I'm fine with it as long as
it's waste or below. And if you don't hit him,
even even better. Robert Kraft wait to hear what he
said about other NFL teams. That's next. Boom Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio, What Up to You? Doug gottlib Show

(39:40):
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Robert Craft is confident, isn't he. He's Robert Kraft right,
like he's got Belichick, got Brady. They won the Super

(40:03):
Bowl without Gronk. They meet some stellar offseason moves and
stop that drafting stuff because they're bad at drafting people.
We actually cover that for you yesterday or maybe the
day before. What day is today? Tuesday or Wednesday? I'm
really today's Wednesday? So Monday? I think Monday. I think
I talked about that, right did I talked about Tuesday?
And I talked about Monday? I thought, But that would
have been two days ago to two days ago? Two

(40:23):
days ago? Yes, I do, I really get I get
caught up. Tomorrow I'll be hosting guest hosting The Herd
with Colin cowherd rama's do you get to come? Do
you get to come to the studio and press the buttons? Now?
They only uh, let Ryan go? They keep me here. Bryan,
You're coming. I'm coming with man, are you I am?
That's awesome. I had no idea. There we go. I'll
hold the fort down here for you. Doug. Alright, cool,

(40:44):
someone's got to make sure the building doesn't come so okay, well,
but hold I got I need a little update here. Um,
Jonas Knocks is in tomorrow? Correct? I I've heard only
good things? Um? And then but Dan Buyer usually co
host with Jonas Knox. But because Dan is on second leave,

(41:04):
it uh prenant. That's wedding wedding leave? Is there? There's
a marital leave. I don't know what it's called. He's
getting married, mad, mad mad? He's getting married. That's a
sixteen candle's reference. He's getting married this weekend. So he's
also is Jonas solo tomorrow? Jonas is flying solo? And
then who's hosting the show tomorrow? I mean who's producing

(41:29):
the show tomorrow? It would be Michael Mayer, who I
don't believe you've met yet. I have not. Now is
he gonna do the their version of The Doug Gottlieb
Show or is he going to do his version of
The Jonas knock Show. We the jury is out on that.
Do you want to do you want to discuss this
right now on air or not? Okay, what do you
want him to do? The Jonas Knock sitting in for

(41:50):
Doug Godly, Like, let's give people this is what people
are going to hear for the next three years. Uh
when I'm here, Like, it's not not incredibly resume up
to date for three years from now. You can leave.
You can leave right now. I don't said this is
what we're gonna do for three years. Pretty definitive timeline there.

(42:12):
I mean length of contract is three years. Like so
I'm just saying for three at least at least three years, right,
for at least three years. That's what every three to
six Eastern twelve to three Pacific is gonna sound like.
It's not like the template like he can say what
I don't care is takes is awesome? Or or do
you or do you want him to like what do
you think is better? I'm doing I'm going to do

(42:35):
Cowherd show tomorrow. Uh so, like we haven't discussed this,
like are we doing any of our stuff? Are we
doing our opens? Are we doing there opens? Okay, I
can tell you that because it's calling Cowherd show right
even for calling cowherd. Wouldn't you do the same thing here?
I agree? There you go, John, Like agree with you. Yeah,
I will put it in your opens tomorrow. But it

(42:57):
may say so that's it should say Jonas stocks like
I'm not trying to not promote him, like I want
to be like again, get up and like, look, this
is not like a I don't feel like this is
a constrictive, like there's no script for this thing, like
you have to say this or you have to have
this take like, look, do what you wanna do. But
just if you want to use some devices, we got

(43:18):
devices for you, right, we got we can reach into
Jonas is sec right, we can if he if he's
got somebody wants to call him, he's got a guy,
you know, if he's if he's got a randing going
to rent and you know, we'll we'll make it sound pretty.
That would be my preference. But consider it done. No, No,
it's not necessarily done. And it's an open discussion to
have if somebody thinks it's a better idea elsewhere. Anyway,

(43:40):
apologize to the folks, and I can't. I'm not gonna
apologize to serious X and we're not on right now
because as a Champions League Premiership? What is what soccer
is on the Champions League? Champions League? Okay, I've got
Robert Craft. Anyway, let's get to Robber Craft. So Robert
Craft won another Super Bowl, although he didn't really win anything, right,

(44:01):
his money to his program. Uh. He was the guy
smart enough to get the new stadium, to keep Bill Belichick,
to to pay all these guys whatever. But he violated
the rule. I kind of think this is an unwritten rule.
Whatever I think I'm good at, I can think, but
I can't say. Whatever I think people think about me.

(44:24):
I can think, but I can't say, especially when it's
a positive. You can be self deprecating, but you can't
be self appreciating, right, you can't be self aggrandizing. And
I thought that Robert Craft, though some of his comments,
maybe all of his comments are accurate, I also think

(44:45):
that it ends up in an effort to give us clarity.
It it makes him sound like a dB it just
does all right, Here's what happened. So Robert Craft believes
that his team is disliked by others in the league,
and he told he's at a Bloomberg event. He said
that he thinks opposing teams jealous of the Patriots success

(45:08):
lobbied NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to come down harden the
paths over the flategate, not because they deflated football's, not
because the deflated footballs were serious business, but because they
wanted to gain advantage over the Patriots. Quote, well, I
don't hold any grudges, but I also don't forget anything.
Isn't that kind of a grudge. Envy and jealousy are
incurable diseases. That's actually not true. If I had never

(45:32):
won a Super Bowl. I'm going into my twenty four
season as an owner. I'm passionate about owning a football
team in my hometown. If I hadn't won, I wouldn't
be so angry at our uh. I would be so
angry at our folks and think about what I can
what what can I do to do it so our competitors.
I understand how they brought pressure on the league office

(45:54):
to be very strong and not compromise on the issue.
That was nonsense and foolishness. As it turned out. Of course,
the Patriots won the Super Bowl. Craft doesn't think that
Tom Brady's four games suspension hurt the team. Quote, he
didn't play our first four games, which is the season.
The good news is he did not take wear and
tear on his body. In other words, he's like, look,

(46:15):
the only reason that they came down on us so hard,
or to flake gate, was because if they hate us
because they aint us, right, That's what he said, they
hate us because they ain't us. And I I do
think that's true. I don't think it's simply because they

(46:35):
won Super Bowls. It was because of Spygate, right. It
was because there was the thought that hey, spy gate
had got that thing, stuff had gone on, that they
operate in the gray area with some of this other stuff.
They've always been able to kind of get away with
a thing or two here are there. They had the
Illegal four, they had the legal slash illegal formation going

(46:57):
back to the year before against the Ravens. So they
had all these things going for them. And he's like, look,
the only reason they came down on us was because
of because of the Super Bowls. Like, that's not accurate,
just not now. I think the whole thing was a
bunch of nonsense too. I just do. But I will

(47:18):
also point out that Robert Kraft accepted the punishment of
the league, which undercut Tom Brady substantially. And he can
sit here and go like, hey, we didn't do anything wrong,
then why did you Why did you Robert Kraft accept
the punishment? If nothing went on, if all of this
was nonsense, then why didn't you fight it? Like if

(47:40):
a guy is is over sentenced for a crime that
he didn't commit, that's one thing. But if a guy
is over sentenced for a crime that he didn't commit
and he pled guilty to it, now you're like, wait,
what right, Like go back and look before Brady. This
is a year before the first Brady ruling. He's like,

(48:04):
all right, fine, what is it? Five grand here you go?
Or million? First round draft pick? Fine, Like, we just
want this to be over with. I don't I just
don't buy that as a defense for innocence. You're innocent.
You don't go like, yep, you got me, but I'm
just doing this to make this go away. Like and

(48:25):
I only buy that. Like maybe if you were in
jail and they caught you with a with a shiv
and you just picked up the ship at the wrong time,
is the guy bleeding it? You're like, as where I
didn't do anything, but the evidence is really really alarming.
Like maybe, but in this particular case, like don't proclaim
your innocence and say people hate us only because we've
won super Bowls when there's a lot of other stuff
to it. But the other part that he violated is

(48:48):
you can't say that. What you have to do is
you have to allow us to make that next step.
I don't know why other teams would pressure Roger Gardell.
All I can tell you is I believe that other
teams pressured Roger Goodell, and that's why Goodell felt compelled
to make this decision. That's the smart thing to say.
It's like, I can't tell you that I have the
better radio know on Earth, but if I can say, like, look,

(49:12):
i can't tell you why I've been afforded the opportunity
to to be in this time slot at three different
networks for the last decade, but I'm incredibly grateful to
continue at this opportunity, continue to kind of grow the
radio brand. And that allows somebody else to go like,
hey man, maybe he's pretty good or maybe he's real
paying the AXT I don't know. That's why I keeps

(49:33):
you like that there's you know, you have to allow
other people to make that next step. And when you say,
like they hate us because they hate us, and because
we have super trophies and they don't. You know, we
have scoreboard and they don't. That's why they came at us. Boy,
you just sound you sound frankly like your fans. You

(49:54):
sound obnoxious. And I don't believe Robert Craft to be obnoxious,
but he's he is allowing himself to be portrayed as
obnoxious based upon how he contextualizes this argument. You had something?
Is that similar to the arguments that an athlete cannot
claim that they're the greatest of all time? You should

(50:16):
just let people tell you that you're the goat. Yeah,
Like that's what they would say about Michael Jordan's right,
Like he never had said that he was the greatest
of all time. He said he said he said it
with his play. You know, you have to you have
to on something. You don't have to necessarily be always
be self deprecating. But you can't be you can't be

(50:39):
self You can't be self aggrandizing at all time. You know,
that just doesn't what's the point. Let other people let
other people make that take that next step in their
minds without you saying it. Rick Buker is gonna join
us up coming next man. Buker, we used to work
together the old place. He's covered obviously, Uh, the league

(51:00):
for years. We're watching the future be now. It's not
just small ball, versatile players spreading the floor, three point
shooting and layups. The future is now. So does that
mean the Spurs are done? And does that mean that
traditional ball is over? We'll discuss with buke up coming
next Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. My have chance

(51:30):
of working a phone call sometime this hour eight Fox
eight seven seven nine six six three six nine six
three six times reach into my sack plus up. What
did the Fox say? What do you at? Clay Travis
had to say about the Celtics and the Cavaliers. Mike
Conley point guard? Um, I would I believe either best

(51:51):
or second best true point guard in the NBA Chris
Paul the other one. Uh. Mike Conley of the Grizzlies
gonna join us next hour. He's been awesome every time
he's been on with us. He had an incredible season
that carrying the burden of the new contract Uh, we'll
talk to him about what the Grizzlies have to do
if they have to kind of evolve as a team,
if you can play the traditional style they've they've played
and still be competitive atop the NBA. That's actually the

(52:14):
question that I want to ask too. Our are you
a fo D? No one knows what it means, but
it's pos time to find out. It's a friend of dos.
Rick Bucker is a longtime friend of the show, personal friend.
At one point in time, we were supposed to go
to Mexico together and go on a surf trip. Remember

(52:34):
that bukle I do I do? It's still waiting there
for alright. So like, look now we're we're west coast bound,
like you let me know, you say, Mexican beer, surfing
and hanging out and uh eating fish during the day.
I'm in. I'm in. So let's let's let's let's do it.
Let's let's plan it. Um. Okay, So the Grizzlies are out,
the Clippers obviously are out, and the Clippers have other issues.

(52:59):
I watched this the other night, and I think it's
two factors. I think one it's age and that they
just couldn't cover the ball. But I also think it's
matchups in all the teams that are successful are playing
similar sorts of same style everybody out around the three
point line except maybe one rebounder. Can you compete playing
traditional basketball anymore? In the NBA? Certainly, this this playoff

(53:23):
run looks to be a referendum on that, because while
the three point shot has increased in its importance and value, UH,
it wasn't the be all in the end all. And
I can't help but looking at the variety of games
and the differences in styles, and the one constant has

(53:44):
been whether it's Boston or it's the Warriors, or it's
the Houston Rockets, it's that the team that is hitting
and either making the most three point shots or getting
to the foul line off of plays and fouls created
at the three point line are the teams that are

(54:06):
ultimately getting it done. And uh, defenses have have to
change now and as a result, so you get either
open three point shots or you get driving lanes that
that weren't there previously and are especially there now because
you're the tendency is you're gonna go a little bit
smaller as a result of of wanting to have more

(54:27):
three point shooters out there, so it is. Yeah. I
don't want to jump to a conclusion based on the
first round and a half or a round in a
couple of games, but yeah, it's certainly looking like three
point shooting. Having three point shooters and having an array
of them is uh is a is the most valuable

(54:50):
element that a team can have right now. It's also
fair to say that the San Antonio Spurs have to
be at least a little bit underwhelmed by LaMarcus Aldridge,
and not just I'm like, look, defensively, he's not what
other stars they've had is, but like he was soft
on offense, he's being guarded by Patrick Beverley. That that's

(55:13):
a bucket every time, am I am? I Again, I
don't want to jump to conclusions, but this is like
two years now, we've seen him in the playoffs. Are
they at least a little bit underwhelmed by what they're
getting in the most important part of the season from
LaMarcus Aldridge. I don't know that they're underwhelmed because I
think that the San Antonio Spurs when they signed him,
knew what they were getting and and and I'd be

(55:35):
surprised that they looked at and expected he was going
to be different with them, Because you're saying two years,
I'd say this goes back to the Blazers. The Blazers
never got out of the first round with LaMarcus Aldridge
as save for a Damian Lillard buzzer beater against the
Houston Rockets, and and LaMarcus was underwhelming in in in
that series for the most part too, So I believe

(55:57):
that they they knew what they were getting. I just
did a piece with Draymond Green talking about UH defending
stars at every position, and we use LaMarcus Aldridge as
our our case in point at the power forward position,
and and he said, he said, he he won't fight
you for position. You know, normally you with most guys,

(56:18):
you want them to live on their mid range. Well,
that's where LaMarcus is gonna go. That's his go to shot,
and you don't want him to get into a comfort
zone where he's he's okay, he's he's feeling that shot.
And so there's certain things that you want to do
to disrupt it. But I just thought it. I found
it extraordinary that Lamarcuses go to is a shot for

(56:39):
the most part that Uh, the teams are defenses are
gonna push you to take and as far as what
he is or he isn't defensively, this is I mean,
this is who he has been. And that's why I
looked at their signing him San Antonio, that is as
an act of desperation to just as somebody they weren't

(57:01):
going to get marcusol LaMarcus Aldridge was the next most
valuable big, quality big on the market. Tim Duncan was
still there, and they were like, let's take another run
with Tim here and we'll worry about the other stuff later.
But the combination of LaMarcus Aldridge and Kawhi Leonard, who
is also very quiet now terrific player, but your two

(57:24):
best players. I have somebody this the other day, I said,
who's the vocal leader of this team? Sean elliott I
asked him who, who's the vocal leader of the team.
He said, Monto Genogli. That's not a good place to
be where a guy coming off the bench who doesn't
play every night is your vocal leader. That there there's
a hole in your game. That's why I never considered
the Spurs, no matter what they did during the regular season.
I never considered them a true title contender because they

(57:47):
are the kind of team that, uh that is always
going to have a great regular season record because they're
gonna play close to their potential. But I didn't see
their ability to go levels up in the host season,
and I think that's what we're seeing. Uh So, if
we're assuming that this bodes well for the Rockets, how

(58:08):
competitive can the Rockets be in a seven game series
against the Warriors. Uh, It's just it's a matter of
consistency and and that goes for both of these teams.
I mean, they can be competitive because the Warriors have
demonstrated a tendency to sometimes play too fast, or to
fall in love with the three, or to get careless

(58:29):
with the ball, and that will certainly open up open
up opportunities for for the Rockets to take advantage of.
Then again, the Rockets have also demonstrated where there are
times where they they can sort of lose their way
and play too fast. So it's really going to be
a matter of who who is able to stay the

(58:51):
most disciplined in a what appears to be a very
free wheeling, open type of of offense. I will say
this the way the Warriors are playing defense right now
is just it is a thing to behold and I
can't help. But whether it's Steve Kerb being ill or
it's still the memory of being down three one last year,

(59:14):
there's a there's a mentality and an eye of the
tiger that if the Warriors are able to maintain that,
I still think the Cavaliers have a good shot of
beating them if it ends up those two teams in
the final. People are making a fat accompany that the
Warriors are gonna win it all. I I don't you look. Matchups.
Matchups change everything and the Calves. Calves can go into

(59:36):
that with confidence. They know they know how to beat
the Warriors. Uh, and so I think that that understanding
is very valuable. But the motivation that the Warriors have
right now, they can maintain this sort of focus, particularly
at the defensive end. Man, it's gonna be tough for
anybody to knock them off or or just give them

(59:57):
a give them a tough series. Rick Buker Falm on Twitter.
Rick Buker, of course, reach his work in Bleach Reports
Bleach Reports. Senior NBA writer buke what's most likely to
happen with the clippers. You know what it's really if
you have to have a conversation with Steve Baluma, because
it all starts with what are you gonna do with
Dr Rivers? Dr Rivers has said I'm going to keep

(01:00:18):
the band together. I'm gonna see, you know, an attempt
to keep Blake and Chris and and the whole group together.
I don't know that you can afford to have everybody.
And the problem is like, okay, so if you let
JJ Reddit go, I think for the money was a
great value, but it's probably gonna have again we're talking

(01:00:38):
about three the value of three point shooting. Can they
afford to keep him for what he's going to be
able to get? Uh? And how are those other pieces
going to get the monsterly better? To me, it's a
flawed team and keeping it together is not the answer.
I also and I never I never want to see
anybody get fired. But uh, I don't, I don't, I don't.

(01:01:02):
I never believe that Doc Rivers should have control as GM.
He certainly hasn't demonstrated since receiving that authority that he
can do the job. And my great question is can
you take that away from him? Can take that roll
away from him and still retain him as head coach
and have him have the same presence and command in

(01:01:24):
the locker room. Uh, if he's if he's been basically demoted,
I don't think you can. So it really starts with
Steve Balmer making a decision on Doc Rivers. If he
stays and they keep it as is, well, then you
can forget about the Clippers being any anything worth taking
note of in the Western Conference for the foreseeable future.

(01:01:46):
If they make a dramatic change, then it's a matter
of what what direction do they go? I keep Chris Paul,
I make sure I keep Chris Paul, and everybody else
is negotiable. Paul George plays where at the start of
next season. That's a great question, I I I The
question is what will the Lakers give up? And would

(01:02:06):
the Lakers give up the number one pick to give
Paul George m I'd say they give up everything, but
all those young guys can be had. Uh, you know,
probably Ingram would be the guy they would least want
to give up. But they're they're still not really sold
on Ingram based but they but no one, no one
really knows what that will be. I think they know
what the others will be. I just I can't see

(01:02:29):
them giving if they get number one, no chance number
two if they have a chance at Lonzo Ball, I
don't think so either. But but but what are the
Pacers like, what are the Pacers options in terms of
moving Paul George, you know, secondary pieces from the Celtics, Like,
I don't think Celtics are't gonna do that because he's
he's only under contract for one year, you well. And

(01:02:50):
the other part is that the Lakers have already that
Paul George has already said, you know, I want to
play for the Lakers. So if you're if you're if
you're making a deal for him, and you're giving up
any sort of ask as you want to know that
he's going to stay beyond next season, and there's no
guarantee of that unless you are the Lakers. H you know.
The the Ingram piece is interesting from both ends. One

(01:03:16):
can Ingram play with Paul George? Can Ingram play with
Miles Turner? Uh? Does? Does that? Does that fit work?
But if I'm the Indiana Pacers and I know where
the Lakers are right now, I'm trying to get everything.
I'm Brandom Ingram is the starting point. I have to
at least get Brandom brandon Ingram and I And ultimately

(01:03:40):
I'd say, let me see if I let me, let
me see if they'll let go of that pick. How
desperate are the Lakers to turn this ship sooner rather
than later? Do you? Great stuff? Has always love your
work and Bleach Report, and of course I know you've
got your own show. Thanks for being our guest on
Fox Sports Radio. You got it. You sound so much happier.
I am so much happier. I appreciate you. Notice I am.

(01:04:00):
I am so much happier to find. I hope you
found that happy place. To man, it's all about all
about It's all about fit a man. Rick Puker joining us.
It's funny how many people have said that I can't
see the smile on my face. Does help? That it's
any degrees outside doesn't. And I get to stay at Ramos,
which you know enough, said Doug. I mean, listen, if

(01:04:21):
you guys only knew, you guys only knew what that did,
what that does for a man. I mean, I'm I'm
man enough to admit it's a good thing every day. First,
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(01:04:44):
Rodgers previously on The Doug Gottlieb Show. Uh, all right,
so Dan buyers out on what is? Is it marital leave?
Is it weddingly? What is the is? There's gotta be
an actual two. We have terms for everything. There's this
vacation vacation is none of it? Getting married is not
a vacation. He Uh, he's out. So Steve Sager instead

(01:05:09):
joins us. As we reach into my sack, let's reach
into god leaves sack. I got all kinds of silliness
in there. Uh, Steve, what do we have in there? Today?
A formal? Good afternoon? And I will assume it is
marital leave. That sounds good. Sure. And by the way,
from the news desk, you were just talking NBA. The
lead on ESPN is that the Hawks have parted ways

(01:05:30):
with their GM Wes Wilcox. But the Hawks beat writer
Atlanta Journal Constitution says, not saying that reports untrue, but quote,
I've spoken to two sources who have no knowledge of it.
And now the Hawks themselves saying there are no changes
to report at this time and any reports indicating otherwise
are inaccurate. So they're well, look, they picked up Dwight Howard.

(01:05:51):
Dwight's not happy with his role, and of course the
team is worse because they have Dwight Howard the national.
Dwight Mayor continues, he is the He has the opposite
it of the Midas touch, because you guys remember the
minus touch. Everything touches turns to gold, right, Uh, Dwight Howard,
it turns to poop. Well, with that, we go to
the overproduced segment with John Ramos. What do we have?

(01:06:11):
What it's going on with the sack today? Big deal,
little deal, no deal? Well, listen, it's not always a
little deal. Sometimes it's just cold outside. It's right, it's
all right, what's the story? Number one. Tony Romo is
among nearly golfers who signed up for the US Open
this year. Monday, he plays in an eighteen whole local

(01:06:32):
qualifier thirty minutes west of Fort Worth. Big deal, little
deal or no deal no deal. Tony Romo likes to
play golf and now he's retiring and he's playing golf.
That that to me is a nine other guys. He's
he's a very very good golfer. He's a scratch golfer.
But the idea that he's gonna get to the US
Open like that would be weird though for Nance to

(01:06:53):
be when Nance actually win't calm with the US Open
to beat Joe Buck calling him with the US Open
because the US Open, well, speak of scratch. Story Number
two the Cubs title trophy damaged at a concert recently
fans attending a charity concert in Boston put on by
theo Epstein's Foundation. This was last weekend. While two of

(01:07:14):
the trophies, a Boston Title Trophy and a Cubs World
Series Trophy, actually made their way into the crowd like crowdsurfing.
Damage for the Cubs World Series trophy had to be
repaired before it was put on display at Fenway last week.
Look with your eyes, not with your hands, right, and
now you tell your kids little flags. I would I
would tell I would tell Cubs fans to act like

(01:07:34):
they've been there before, but they haven't been there before.
So little deal. Big deal. That's a big deal. It's
a big deal. Hey, it's a big deal. They want
it's a big deally. Do you remember anybody else damaging
the trophy? No trophy, no Cubs title over a hundred years.
Story three. Running back Justin for Sett retires from the
NFL today after nine season, six teams. He did play

(01:07:57):
with the Baltimore Ravens quite well over twelve yards Russian
was a little deal. No deal. It's like a little deal,
like thirty one. Right. He was an undrafted free agent,
and of course he was seventh maybe seventh, but but
five ft eight. You talked about Isaiah Thomas today. He
was draft in the seventh round, So so it is listed.
Yes he was, Oh, he he was. He wrote the

(01:08:17):
letter to undrafted free agents about making and he also
had uh. I believe he was the guy who UH
claimed that the Ravens had him in the friend zone.
He didn't want to be in the friend zone with
the Ravens. They game a long term deal, and then
of course he wasn't good after he got out of
the friend zone. He got to a long term relationship
with them. I like justin four set. I think like
look for his uh you know, the average NFL careers

(01:08:41):
what four years? He went at the most right um
and he finished fifth in the NFL in rushing in
fourteen yards. So like, I think he hit the over
and whatever people thought his potential be. So that's big deal.
It's a little deal. I mean, it's like Justin for
Nett was Did you know Justin Fordette was still in
the NFL? Did you know that Justin Forsette did you

(01:09:06):
know he was fantasy guys? Like, yeah, he won of
my fantasy league like two years ago. But for one
season exactly other than that he was in the league,
which is, as you say, an accomplishment next to nowhere.
Synder Guard, the Mets pitcher who's getting a second opinion
on his torn right lat muscle. According to the New
York Post, they say conservative estimates are that he could
miss three months. He scheduled to visit a surgeon in

(01:09:30):
l A Kobe Bryant's doctor. Is this big deal, little
deal or no deal? Well, this is a big deal.
And hold on Ramos to stop the music for a second.
All right, this is important. Okay. I have some sayings
that you will hear repetitively here over the next at
least three years on Fox Sports Radio. You're ready for
this one, uh, Ramos and music and Steve, you guys

(01:09:51):
ready for this one. No one gets a second opinion
on good news. There's never been a person who sat
there and met with their doctor and the doctors like
good news. Mr Gottlieb, you don't have cancer. Doc. I
appreciate that, but I'm gonna have to get a second opinion, right.
So if somebody says they're getting a second opinion, you know,
the first opinion was a bad one. So we're talking

(01:10:12):
three months or maybe four or five months. Yeah, they
was really bad news. Like torn lat muscle. You hear torn,
You hear muscle? You have a lat muscle. That's something
you throw with. Uh yeah, that's yeah. Uh, you know
obviously like Achilles achilles achilles achilles heel was actually his
achilles heel, or Thor's achilles heel appears to be his

(01:10:34):
lap and the hammer is coming down on him from
the doctor tomorrow to Steph Curry, tweaked his ankle in
the win last night of Game one against the Utah Jazz.
He says he's gonna be just fine, but a moment
of concern when he tweaked the ankle on a layup
second half. Big deal, little deal or no deal. I'm
gonna say it's a little deal. Stepha also said that, uh,

(01:10:56):
he's not gonna try and dunk anymore. That's when he
that's he heard it play. He's wearing those under arm
or nursing shoes. That's probably not a good idea. When
he got bad when he got bad dogs, I'll say
it's a little deal. Like, look, he's got bad feet,
he's got bad ankles. Remember that limited him his first
couple of years in the NBA. Of course last year
he had the knee. But they do have Kevin Durant
and he said it was routine maintenance. Uh, the trainer

(01:11:19):
working on his foot on the bench. Uh, it's hard.
You can't fix feet, you can't fix hips, you can't
fix the back. That's actually an NBA guy tell you
they can fix knees. They can't fix those things. It's
a little deal, but one more tweak and it becomes
a big one. That was Scott lead Sack, Steve a
Seger then coming filling in quite nicely for Dan Byre.

(01:11:41):
He's he might get Wally pipped here might just might
keep buyer. Buyer gets fyer gets mighty, he gets married,
and like then he comes back in what is a
week from Tuesday or a week from Wednesday? I think
he's out through Tuesday. Yeah, he'll be he'll be here
next Tuesday or things go well, maybe Wednesday, That's what
I'm saying. Then he'll come back and go. Steve, you're
still here, Like, oh, you didn't know. You didn't know.

(01:12:04):
ESPN not the only one making cuts there, Uh, the
main cause we were were brutal. We're brutal here with
our man Dan Fire. What did the Fox say? Wait?
Do you what? Clay Travis said after It's pretty obvious
he watched his first NBA game of the postseason. What
did the Fox say? Find out next? In the Doug
Gotliep Show Doug Gotlip Show rolls on Fox Sports Radio.

(01:12:25):
Strong Man, that's strong. That's one of those things that
you've got to be listening to your you're in the
uh in the studio listening to that when they were
recording that, Like that's a hit, that's hit. That's something
about music when you have to say wait for it,
that means that's exciting. Yes, people love to hear that
quote on hold on here comes no listen, there's yeah
when the when the hook comes and you're waiting for it,

(01:12:47):
it's uh, it's it's frankly like the song from Blues Travelers,
you know song hook, one of my one of my
favorite songs. Um, I do like hook because it's completely true.
And um, John what's his name? Was the crazy guy
with all the guns? John? Um, what's with the fact
guy who who used to be fat now he's skinny,

(01:13:08):
but he's still crazy. He's the lead singer Blues Traveler
Pop Popper. John Popper, a friend of mine used to
represent him and Blues Travelers and uh who my friend
passed away. He was famous record producer whatever anyway, and
uh he he was actually a tour producer and he
told me all these stories about John Popper's amazing. But

(01:13:29):
when I first got to college in this is ninety five,
like I came from Orange County as a basketball player,
live hip hop and then like Pearl Jam and some
of the Seattle stuff, right, that was that was kind
of that was that was my jam. And I never
forget walking into my dormitory and the two things that
I learned most Dave Matthews Blues Travelers the two things,

(01:13:51):
and then the other was every guy on my dorm
floor was learning to play a guitar, it seemed like,
and they were all learning on Yellow Leadbetter. I don't know,
Oh no, no, whoam? And I don't know anybody who
actually knows the words to the Yellow Lead Better? Nor
am I convinced that words actually existed? Oh hold on,
wait a no where? Yeah right, That's what I have

(01:14:17):
to say every day. We'd like to bring back what
somebody else on Fox Sports Radio has to say. Clay
Travis up early in the morning six to nine am
Eastern Time on FSR. He had this take on the
Celtics dramatic winning over time last night. Say, winning six
playoff games in a row, the Boston Celtics have really

(01:14:42):
served notice that potentially they're gonna put Lebron and the
Calves a little bit nervous, because I think the Calves thought, oh,
the Celtics aren't any good. We don't even care if
we have home court in that series in the event
that they even get to the Eastern Conference finals. And
I don't think the Calve was really thought that the
Celtics were going to get to the Eastern Conference Finals.

(01:15:05):
Uh No, that's that's I don't believe that to be accurate.
Love Clay Love his show outkicked the coverage six and
nine am Eastern Time on Fox Sport Tradey can download
the podcast as well. Uh that sounded really that sounded
like a six am or six fifteen am. That was
before he got the pipes kind of going. He got
the energy kind of going, didn't it, And also before
he kind of got some of the common sense going

(01:15:27):
late in the season. Late in the season they didn't
have Tristan Thompson. Both sides claimed the game didn't matter
that much and Lebron James completely and thoroughly dominated Because
the the Celtics are a j V version of the Varsity,
which is the Calves. Right, both teams play small ball,
but the Calves are bigger and more athletic at every spot,

(01:15:47):
and even though they will struggle to defend more athletic players,
they able to make up for it with their some
of their length at the rim. They've always limited Isaiah
Thomas and or even go back to Derrick Rose when
he was when he had it going with the with
the bull. Eventually Lebron James would end that. I think
it's a terrible matchup for the Celtics just because they've
won six and row and they're playing on this raw

(01:16:08):
motion of the turnaround. I don't believe that strikes any
fear into the calves hearts. So much so, I just
got an email from Nike. Nike is has now has
a campaign called Flip the Switch, like everybody's getting into
the fact that the Calves are are switch flippers. There
you go. I want to make sure I said it right.
There's a chance for some switch flippers because they've kind

(01:16:32):
of flipped the switch and the matchup. They match up
worse with the Wizards and John Wall than they do
with the Celtics. That's why I believe they kind of
manipulated the things so that they can be the opposite
bracket of the Wizards. They still may get the Wizards,
or they'll get the Celtics, but I don't think the
Celtics have are striking fear in the Cavalier's hearts after

(01:16:52):
they already dominated Toronto once and they'll probably do so
again tonight. That's what the Fox said. Now, all right,
we I love doing that Mike Conley is gonna join
us next hour, isn't he Mike Conley of the Memphis Grazzilies. Plus,
we're gonna take you to Baltimore. Crazy series with the
things awful things yelled at him Jones and then the

(01:17:13):
thing's thrown at Manny Machado between the Oh's and the socks. Uh. Plus,
we're gonna take you to Toronto. Do the Raptors have
any hope after? They did make a comeback in game one,
but it never felt like that game was in doubt
at all. It was a complete no doubter in game one,
And as Chris Persari joined us earlier this week, said, like, hey,

(01:17:34):
last year Toronto won two games, and the margin of
victory for all the games combined with still fifth more
than fifteen points. And it feels like the Calves are better.
Like what do you do if if you're Toronto when
you have all these bad matchups all over the floor
and it feels like the Calves are rested and fully
engaged in these games. We'll take you to Toronto and

(01:17:54):
to Baltimore as well as Mike Conley next hour. What
we saw last night though from the ball us in
Celtics was the stuff of movies only, I'm not sure
it would ever be greenlit as a movie. The most
unbelievable part will share with you. Plus, what's the best
porn performance you've ever seen? That's next to the Dug
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(01:18:41):
excited to catch up with Mike Conley. Great dude who
carries the the heavy burden of the the Parade magazine,
the Parade magazine effect. Right, he signed at the time
the biggest contract in the history of the NBA's on
the second biggest lebron has the biggest contract in the
n b A. And you were like, they judge you differently,
let you know how much you may right, It's no

(01:19:02):
different than people taking shots at Skip bayless Richard Diets
from Sports Illustrated covers the media, and he constantly takes
shots at Skip Bayless. Why he knows how much Skip
Bayless makes and Skip Billis makes it a lot, a
lot of money. Okay, that's the apparently that's the burden
that you carry. Well, now Mike Conley has finished a year,
did he did he feel that like that burden was heavy?

(01:19:23):
And what can the Grizzlies do too to evolve to
two thousand eighteen basketballs two thousand and seventeen basketball seems
to be much more, much more perimeter oriented, much more
permimeter oriented. Uh Man, we got a lot to get to,

(01:19:44):
So Mike Conley a little bit plus will take you
to the Oo's take to the Raptors. We got the
Spurs too. On the Spurs to find out what the
Spurson who Mike Taylor from down there covers the Spurs
is gonna join us at just before half past the hour.
Bunch of things to get to. I saw this. I
found it kind of interesting and kind of proves the
point of why Tony Romo has a job as lead

(01:20:06):
at CBS. Look, I think that Pittsburgh Steelers could make
the case of being close to America's team. If you've
ever been to an NFL game, And when I killed
NFL season ticket holder two days ago, I wasn't killing
people that buy tickets to go to an NFL game.

(01:20:27):
It wasn't what I was talking about, Kay. What I
was talking about is people who buy season tickets. If
it's me and I'm going to an NFL game, I
picked the one or two you know my If my
company buys it, fine, like whatever in my company, right, Um.
But if I'm gonna buy it, like I get my
the best game of the schedule and I put I
would overpay for that game and spend that Sunday at

(01:20:51):
an NFL game. Don't get me wrong. For that Sunday,
you can't watch other games, you can't watch red Zone,
you can't do anything with your kids. You're gonna overpay
for parking, overpay for seats, whatever. But it's worth it
in comparison to all of the not just money, but
the time spent in going to games that you don't
care about, or just even finding somebody to take the tickets, like, well,

(01:21:17):
I'll be giving away the tickets. It's a it's a
good deed, no good deed. Goes unpunished, trust me, And
like if you had see if you bought season tickets
to the Rams, like, dude, you couldn't give those away
at the end of the season. I love it's the
old I left two tickets to the Rams on the
front of my dash. Somebody broken in my car, and
I found I found two more when I got packed. Right,

(01:21:37):
that's like that that old joke. But look, I can
make the case that when you you go around the country,
there's a ton of Packers fans, there's a ton of
Steelers fans. Steelers fans probably more so even than Packers
fans um because not only there are a lot of
people from western Pennsylvania who move away from Pittsburgh, but
they've also had success in the seventies, success in the eighties,

(01:22:00):
success in the nineties, and success in the twenty in
both decades of the century. And look, we love our
teams because they're from our area, but we also love
our teams from our area when they win, right with
the exception of course, to the Dallas Cowboys. They won
three Super Bowls when most grown ups now we're kids.

(01:22:22):
Lebron is a Dallas Cowboy fan. Why when he was
a kid. The Cowboys were awesome, they were loaded, they
were awesome. I mean, Barry Switzer won a super Bowl.
That's how good they were. You're like, Barry Switzer, what
a super Bowl? Like? He doesn't seem like a pro coach,
Like exactly, that's how good they were. So um, I

(01:22:46):
saw this and I just I felt like it spoke
volumes for people, like why does the league seem to
want former Cowboys? Michael Irvin has been involved in the
NFL networked and he was an ESPN before and he
survived many of off the field issues, right. Troy Aikman
is the lead analyst for Fox and now Tony Romo

(01:23:08):
is half as accomplished as as Troy Aikman, Like I
love to Tony is a friend of mine. I've hung
out with Tony Romo at some point. I hope to
play hoop at his house. He's got a hoop courted
his house. Like, that's a that's on the bucket list
forgot leave next time I'm in the DFW. But like dud,
Troy Iigman was the dude, incredibly accurate and incredible leadership.

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Of course he won those three super Bowls. He's a
hall of Famer. He's also number one overall pick in
the NFL draft turned that franchise around, but um Ezekie
Elliott and Dak Prescott topped the NFL's player merchandise product sales.
That part of this is they're new players, right, so
he didn't have to go back to the Welt. Like,
look the most popular NFL players, And I judge popularity

(01:23:52):
by well, my own kind of guide, which is kids
most popular play in the NFL. Who do we think
it is? I have a good sense of who it is.
Who do you think it is? Music? Odell Beckham Jr.
I mean kids love Odell. Everybody loves Odell Beckham Junior.
You guys know my dog's name is Odell Beckham Junior Junior.

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You guys know that. So I mean they love Odell
Beckham Jr. J. J. Watt is more Middle America, Uh,
grown women, kind of grown men, Like he's like a
He's like a G I. Joe figure, right. But the kids,
the younger generation, the ones who people buy jerseys for,
it's Odell Beckham Jr. It's J. J. Watt, and it's

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probably Cam Newton like those are probably one two in three. Um,
I don't think Tom Brady is super popular. I don't
think he's There's always gonna be a portion of people
who don't like the Patriots. But I think he's really popular.
Um he's. I don't think I'll ever be as popular
as Peyton Manning, for example. Just I don't. I think
Aaron Rodgers is very popular the quarterbacks the Green Bay Packers.

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He's the best quarterback I've ever seen. Aaron Rodgers the
best player I've ever seen play the quarterback position. There
are guys that have had better seasons at times, there
are guys that can be, I don't know, more efficient. Whenever,
Aaron Rodgers is the best. You when you you do
the what do you have to do to be a quarterback? Right?
You have to lead, You have to have great feet

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in the pocket, extend the play out of the pocket,
have great arm strength, great accuracy, intelligence for defense, play
well in big games like check check check, and you
can go like, well, he didn't play well against the
Atlanta Ful because, like dude, his team sucked this year.
Let's just be honest. His defense was pitiful, pitiful, and
they're playing on the road in Atlanta and it just,

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uh it, it just snowballed on, snowballed on. But I
mean what he was able to do, for example, the
week before in Dallas. This is one of the things
that I hate, Like how good is the under pressure?
Look at how they played in Atlanta, Like there wasn't
pressure playing in Dallas on the road the week before.
It was awesome. They had to win all of their
games when they started out five and and he said,

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I think we might be able to go undefeat and
they went undefeated, Like there was a certain amount of
pressure there. Suddenly Atlanta was didn't know the Lanta just
destroyed their offensive line and their and their Atlanta's office
is too good for the defensive backs who won't be
in the league who were starting for the Packers in
the postseason. But the point is that Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton,

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Odell Beckham Jr. They hadn't changed teams and the uniforms
hadn't changed between last year and this year. Ezekie Elliott
and uh and Dak Prescott were both new to the league,
plus their Dallas Cowboys, and they were really good like
check check check. But there is also something to the
idea that whether you say you cowboys are one of

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those things that, like you say you hate them, but
people don't really hate them. They like for them. They
think it's funny when they lose in the play offs,
like they thought it was funny when Tony Romo would
lose in the playoffs, which seemed to happen every year,
or not make the playoffs because of some late game debacle.

(01:27:09):
But it's one of those things to which, uh, it's
it's they still like them, They'll still watch them. They
still there are still a ton of Cowboy fans, which
is interesting because they haven't seen any success in what
fifteen years or more more. It's crazy. Whereas Steelers great colors,

(01:27:30):
right like black an yellow, black, like Steelers great logo.
They've been good a bunch of different and they kind
of it's not who we are as a country, but
it's kind of who we want to be, right Like
we see the Steelers as grindy, gritty, Midwestern, hard working, right,

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but the Cowboys are still a glamour team in the NFL.
And I understand. There's some other factors which helped Zeke
and Dak Prescott moved to number one and two in
merchandise sales, like the fact that their rookies, but the
fact that they're cowboys. I think Trump's even that. It's
like a TV show that's been on for a long

(01:28:11):
time and you're like, why is this still on? Who
watched It's frankly like the w w E. Do you
guys watch the w w E? You don't watch raw
not anymore? When do we know anymore? Like when this
stuff well, like a while ago. Probably once I was
like a teenager, yeah, yeah, yeah, like yes, yes, O
could at one point, do you scared me there? I

(01:28:32):
never watched it. I used to really not even when
you're a kid. My dad was into it. My dad,
my dad used to try and convince us that it
was real. That's real. You can't fall off, you can't
throw a guy onto a table, and that might be real,
Like dad, the table breaks as he lands on it,
Like it's a it's a stunt. Those are just stunt.
Even when you were a kid, you knew it was fake.
I've totally thought it was real at any point. I

(01:28:55):
never thought it was real. I mean, they're like they
sit there, they punched. He says, like, like, dude, what
are we doing here? Now? I thought the holds were
real because my brothers four years older than me, and
we go like, hey, let me try this figure four.
You know, I gotta stop. What are you gonna do?
So I we wrestled. He would try and imitate what

(01:29:17):
he saw on TV. But this is like one of
those like I don't know anybody who watches WW but like,
look at the numbers people watch. It's a lot like
the Pro Bowl, right, people who say I don't like
the Cowboys, I don't watch the Cowboys or whatever, like
they're not America's team. That's like people go like, I
don't watch the Pro Bowl. Somebody does? Somebody people watch

(01:29:42):
the Combine. They definitely watched the Combine. There are very
very few. It's a dying breed. The traditional true point guard.
Mike Conley is arguably the best or definitely the best
young version of that dying true traditional point ink card.
Will that rule come back? How do the Grizzlies have

(01:30:04):
to evolve to get back to the Western Conference finals
or even to the NBA Finals. We'll last the second
highest paid player in the NBA. Mike Conley joins us
up coming next. This is a B side. Again. You
have to explain to the kids what a B side
was where is the B side? Now? They didn't have

(01:30:26):
a record with Pearl Jam, but it was considered a
B side. It was like an extra release when they
had they had the single for Jeremy. Remember the single
for Jeremy? Do you mean the crazy thing? Was like Jeremy,
the whole Jeremy thing has become a thing, right, Like
it's crazy and sad. But man, Pearl Jam, I've never

(01:30:48):
seen Pearl Jamie concert. That's shocking. Yeah, ive never seen
Pearl Jamy concert. I'm sure it's awesome. Um, it kind
of lost me, Like there's some other songs after after
the album ten it, I just I kind of moved on.
I became more kind of hip hop guy. Mike Conley
Junior Joints is on the Doug Gotlip Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Are you a concert guy? Um? Somewhat I'll

(01:31:11):
go to a few a year, like what, like what's
your Is there one that man? I really gotta go
out and I gotta go see this guy in concert? Um,
you know, not really. I think I just kind of see,
you know, if it's convenient or if you know whoever
it's hot, like I go see Drake or you know
those guys perform, and um, I would love to see

(01:31:32):
like Beyonce or something. I've never been to one of those,
but take my family there or something, you know, do
something like that. Yeah, are you a sneat seat snob?
I'm kind of. I'll be honest with you, I'm a
seat snob, like once you and you've accomplished a lot
more in your life than I have. But like, if
you want me to go to an event, I gotta
be either in a box where you know, like because
I'll get a d D and I gotta pay I
can't pay attention to it, or it's got to be close,

(01:31:53):
so whether it's backstage or really close to backstage so
I can actually experience it. What about you, Um, I'd
have to agree. Yeah, I'd like to be is, you know,
as comfortable as possible where I can at least enjoy it,
and um, you know, not being the thicker things that
I say, you know, with all the crowd and stuff.
You know, one of the great things about being you

(01:32:14):
is that you're not you know, you're not lebron in
terms of your size, right, Like you're you're even smaller
in many ways than than like Steph and so if
you have a hat on, right, like, you just look
like a dude. You just like like a good looking dude.
So you can can you still go into places, maybe
not in Memphis, but other places and just be a
regular guy and not have people go hey, isn't that

(01:32:35):
Mike Conley? Oh yeah, I can get away with it
a lot easier than a lot of a lot of
those taller guys. Man, and all you said, just put
a hat on or a hood or something, and um,
I can make my way through a lot of a
lot of events. Mike Conley Junior join us from the
Memphis Grizzli Stuck Gotlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. There are
people that are giving you guys credit for beating the Spurs,

(01:32:56):
for Houston beating Expursion Game one. I don't know if
you've read any of this hurting this people are like, look, dude,
you came off the type of series which the Grizzlies
can't beat you, but the Grizzlies will beat you up
so much so the next series there's still kind of
that lingering effect. Do you buy into that? Um? You know,
I think that, uh, it's just a contrast of styles

(01:33:20):
more than anything. I think when you're you play against us,
we're you know, you're gonna be physical, it's gonna be
slower paced, and um, it's a different style of game.
And then when you have to switch gears to a
team like Houston, Um, I just think that they, you know,
just caught him, caught him still in the you know,
the hangover planning against us a little bit and just

(01:33:41):
a different styles, you know, kind of caught him off guard.
When you watch, when you as a six two point guard,
watched last night what Isaiah Thomas did? First? What what
just what he did? What goes through your mind? Man?
Um Man, that's I don't know how he how he
how he did it? And that's as unbelievable that he's

(01:34:01):
even playing. Um with everything that's going on with him
and his family and they know things that they're going
through kind of imagine, but to do the things that
he did last night, I mean, that's those those those
that's a story you'll tell you know, your your children,
your grandkids and stuff like that. I mean that that
was that kind of a performance. Mike, I I said
this to start the show. I I don't think like

(01:34:23):
we're broadcasting from Los Angeles actually just from the valley
right real close to Hollywood. I don't know if that
script gets greenlit in Hollywood. You're like, alright, five, Like
his sister dies, like tragedy, It gets his tooth knocked
out in the oral surgery, Like okay, that's a cool twist. Um,
he has twenty four and the first uh what the
three quarters? We twenty nine? The fourth quarter in overtime,

(01:34:44):
I come on, like, I get that he made some
game winning shots, but like that part is just ridiculous.
I'm not sure that that becomes We all know Hollywood
scripts have a happy ending. I'm not sure that one
gets greenlight. Well, I don't see how. I don't say how.
I can't, but I mean I love to love to
see something you know about that, because that's really, uh

(01:35:06):
was a sight to see, didn't you know? Live was
was unbelievable. Mike Conley Jr. Joining Us Doug Gotlip Show,
Fox Sport TRADEO. But then you look at the the
roster composition. Obviously they've tried to get bigs. But you
look last night and you got Avery Bradley, who's about
your size right playing the two. Then they got either
Marcus Smarter Terry Roscher playing like small forward Jalen Brown

(01:35:28):
who's like six six six seven rookie playing the four,
or Jay Crowdy who's like six five playing the four,
and then Al Horford playing the five like and then
you compare like the juxtaposition to which how your team
is built right with Zebo at the four and Mark
at the five, and you see so many of these
teams that are spreading it out and playing small ball
or playing from three point uh three point and then layups,

(01:35:50):
you know, the the new style of basketball. I guess
my question you is, do you think ultimately you guys
can win big in the NBA with the traditional lineup?
You guys have thrown out of here for almost a
decade now. Well, you know, we we believe in ourselves
with the roster we have and the guys that we
as long as we played through our strengths, um, as

(01:36:11):
long as we have our big fellows, you know, we
gotta play throw the man um and for us, you
know it's it's more so can we make ourselves a hybrid?
You know with our roster, can we find a way
to get a little bit faster? Can we find a
way to spread the court or find different lineups where
we can create more space and shoot more threes and
and play a little bit more like today's game because

(01:36:33):
as we're staying around the league, that's where everybody's headed
and um they're at now and uh and has caused um,
you know a lot of teams to jump on board
and be playing at all time levels because of it.
Can can I give you a personal assessment, like, like
you live this life so you can tell me a
lot of people point out, well, you can't touch a
guy in the perimeter that that's really hard. But it's

(01:36:55):
made even more difficult because the NBA officials are allowing
that big guy who sets the high ball screen to
move and it's called twisting right to to switch the
ball screen angle at the very last moment, which is
what really makes it impossible to guard, isn't it. Isn't
that more part of what's creating these angles for for

(01:37:15):
the downhill drives than anything? UM. I have to agree, Man,
it really is tough as a defensive players trying to
guard um. You know these quick, fast athletic guards who
already you know don't meet no need much help to
get open um. You know, they're able to get screens
that you know, the big man can go from side

(01:37:35):
to side or you know, kind of roll you into
the pain as there is. They're you know, setting the
screen and a bunch of different things in ways that
they've become really good at setting screens that um, you know,
makes it very difficult for teams to defense. For the
first time in franchise history. To Memphis Gruzlies players Mike
Conley Jr. Who of course is joining us right now
and Zebo. Zach Randolph had been named finalist for the

(01:37:56):
two thousand sixteen two thousand and seventeen season Long and
b A Care's Community Activist Award, which is presented by
Kaiser Permanente. Uh fans can vote on Twitter through May five,
So that's through I think Friday hashtag Zach Randof for
hash hashtag Mike Conley, Like, couldn't you guys just pull
your votes right like you like Listen, We're on the

(01:38:17):
same team. We're both trying to win the same award,
like Lambia will pull our votes. We're both doing good
deeds here in Memphis. We both want to win the award.
I think that's the best idea I've heard. Man. We
we should have thought that from the beginning, and uh,
we might have a chance. So no, but it's great
to uh to be a Monks one of the finalists,
and peopoth say the same, and um, you know we mean,

(01:38:38):
you know, we we do a lot in our communities
and we're here. You know, it's excited to represent them
and and hopefully one of us to get it. You
signed that huge offseason contract. You and I've caught up
on this before, but did you feel like people other
guards came at you harder because of that contract that
you signed? Uh? You know, not really. I honestly was

(01:39:00):
in too much of my time trying to go at them,
you know what I'm saying. Like it was like, um,
I was trying to you know, just my responsibility was different,
so I was trying to adjust to it and and
concentrate on solely on that, not much you know what
other people were trying to do in regards to coming
at me. So you know, it made it a little

(01:39:22):
bit easier than trying to worry about other people. You
had this great sentence and I'm and I'm kind of
paraphrasing stuff, and I butcher it. Forgive me my Conley Jr.
Joining us. Um, after you played so well against the Spurs,
even in the loss, even the losses, you said that
I'm not trying to prove people wrong. I'm trying to
prove the people who believe to me right. Is that

(01:39:42):
Is that accurate? That was that what you said? Yes? Yes, yeah,
you know it's it's true. You know that that's you
know that that statement is something that, um, I've just
tried to live by, you know really And and because
I just after I signed a contract me as much
a negative things that came along with it, as far
as criticism and all the things that's going on, and

(01:40:05):
I kind of set back in and you know, made
me realize that all the people who have you know,
went on a limb for me of help me, UM
grow mature, you know, have believed in me. And and
those are the people that matter the most. Why would
I waste my energy on the people who I don't
even know, who are negatively trying to affect me. So

(01:40:26):
that was the way I looked at it. Well, that
that that that leads me to this last thing, miken
Ley Jr. Joining US, which is like value Like I
think I think Russ is gonna win the m v P.
I think he had an incredible season, but he also
led the NBA in field goal attempts right like he
shoots a tunny, led the NBA in turnovers as well.
Whereas the style by which you play point guard, I
kind of feel like it's only you and Chris Paul

(01:40:47):
who are more the true point guards. And I know
you're called on to score and you have to lead
your team. How do we how should we have assessed
like your value, whether or not you're whether you're not
you're playing well, because the the stats excuse so much
in the favor of guys who shoot more and dominate
the ball more than a guy like you or a
guy maybe to a lesser stent like Chris Paul. Right, Um, yeah,

(01:41:10):
you know, to the end of the day's game, everybody
looks at the stat sheet and if you don't have
thirty or fifty or forty or whatever and a triple double,
you you're you're not worth anything, or you didn't play
well or whatever it is. And um, I think for
guys like me and Chris, who um are you know,
facilitators mainly first and and and we can score the ball,
we can do whatever. But I think this our efficiency.

(01:41:33):
You know, the way we go about the game. You
know there'll be games where um, you know, you can
will shoot fifteen times total or you know ten of
fifteen and uh, you know just this, you know this
and steals and you're playing defense and all the things
that you didn't help to win win the game. Um,
and you're able to dominate without you know, even filling
up stat sheet. And I think that's the difference. You know,

(01:41:56):
guards can still dominate games without um having to you know,
put up monster numbers. Yeah, I always thought, and maybe
it's because I couldn't score. You can dominate a game
without even taking a shot. Case maybe that's that's a
little too much so, but boy, you had an incredible season.
Whatever concert you get out to enjoy it. Enjoy the
fact you can still be incognito and then crushed dudes
during the the NBA season. Appreciate all you've done in

(01:42:17):
the community. Was she the best of luck in the
Community Service Award? And thanks me A guest on Fox
Sports Radio, All right, that's Mike Conley Jr. Joining us.
A lot of the the the interesting basketball talk to
me is that it's really really hard to guard these
guys who are very talented, crazy athletic have the green
light and you don't know where that screen is coming from,

(01:42:40):
and it can move behind you. It's nearly impossible. Can
the Spurs do the what appears to be nearly impossible?
Can they turn around this series even though they only
down one game to done? Take it to San Anton,
Take it to Orio, to to the Orioles after a
crazy series with Boston, and we'll take you to Toronto
where they got an uphill climb in their series against
Cleveland that after We doubt What's trending? D G Show

(01:43:03):
Rose on Fox Sports Radio tomorrow. You can check me
out on Fox Sports One as well as your Fox
Sports Radio fill it. I'll be fill in for Colin Calherd.
M M. Take my boy Ryan Music up to the
big time music. We gotta talk about this orange dresser.

(01:43:26):
We gotta, we gotta, we gotta talk about this orange
dresser because my my first time doing TV. I'll tell
you this story a second I got I got a
first time doing TV story. I'll tell you at the
at the at the bottom of the hour. That's a
that's a radio term. You shouldn't ever use radio terms
on radio. But I'll tell you about it upcoming in
ten minutes. First, though, let's find out who are guys are.
They're going to get us updated on the stories of

(01:43:46):
the day. We don't know everything, but we know people
that know what you want to know. You know, it
sounds like you meet a guy. I got a guy,
all right, I got a guy in San anton Mike
Taylor's got his own show six nine am on seven
sixty a m in San Antono. That's an I Heart

(01:44:09):
radio affiliate at my Taylor show? Is his Twitter handle?
Mike how fixable or the defensive issues for the Spurs
in Game two? Not real fixable? I don't. I don't
think that they have any answers. I mean, they're gonna
try and work on things, but I don't know what
the heck they're going to do differently from the other night.
They gotta pray that Houston doesn't play as well. I
think that's the bottom line and how they look at

(01:44:30):
it going into this game night. Um, is there buyer's
remorse with the Marcus Aldrich. Yeah, And honestly, man, I said,
I know what this is a quick hit segment. I
don't have you don't have twenty minutes with me. But
I would better paycheck Doug that if he could get
a do over and go to Phoenix. I think he
really would. I just it's just it's not a fit.
We're two years into this thing here and he has
not gotten any better. And the other night that was

(01:44:52):
a huge regression. Yeah, yeah, so, I mean I was looking.
I actually tweeted out of there's what substances are softer
than Lamarcu Soldridge and you don't want to be seen,
you don't want to be seen as as as soft.
What about the idea that, in addition to having a
personnel disadvantage because of age and LaMarcus struggling, especially defensively,

(01:45:14):
the idea that the way Houston is playing, the way
San Antonio is playing, the way Boston Cleveland is playing,
that's kind of the way of the future. Will we
see pop maybe maybe move Kauaie to the four and
try and go smaller ball and adjust uh to the
to the to the mismatch that Houston has right now,
Well he's gonna have to because you know, you know

(01:45:34):
as well as anybody how top maybe this league has
gotten maybe more top maybe than ever, and it's these
teams that they can't keep up with anymore. They can't
keep up with these track stars, so they're gonna have
to adjust. Now Pop can do it, and he's adjusted
a couple of times in the past. Used to be me,
as you know around here, the first to eight wins,
and then they started getting slowly, slowly but surely smaller
and started the lying on three point shots like everybody

(01:45:56):
else is doing. He can adjust. From the question for
us seeing the gganization is how the hell are they
going to do it? Who are they going to bring
in here? Who are they gonna ship out and bring
in here in the next two years. Gonna be fascinating
to see. Mike Taylor hosts his own show on seventy
seven sixty a m in San Antonio. They'll have a
bunch to talk about after tonight's game, I'm sure, Mike.
Thanks for being our guy in San anton Bid. Thanks,

(01:46:16):
I got a guy in Baltimore. John Eisenberg is at
Baltimore sports columnists and author of The Streak, lou Garrett
cal Ripken Jr. And Baseball's Most Historic Records. Uh. John,
how would you characterize this series with the Boston Red Sox? Uh?
It is a little too hot for my taste. I'll
say that, Uh, it just goes on and on with

(01:46:37):
all these controversies and off field stuff and who's throwing
at home and uh, certainly the awful racial stuff on
Monday night in Fenway Park, and uh, it's just uh ugly.
I think that's the word to describe it. Ugly. And
I think that there's been uh some phone conversations today,

(01:46:58):
and I think baseball really wants the tone the thing
down and get everybody back to playing baseball, because uh,
it's just not going away. And certainly the situation and
the stands with the racial epithets, I don't know, that's
a that's a much much larger, almost a social question there,
and I don't know what you do about that. But
in terms of baseball, they're just trying to calm down

(01:47:19):
the throwing at people and get back to baseball. Yeah,
I'm I'm with you, Like I I can't do you know,
we can't get into like you have evil in your
heart if you're yelling saying those things about other people,
like I have no no room for you in any
stadium or any part of this conversation. But in regards
to the baseball feel like, isn't many overreacting here, like
they hit Mookie Betts and so they threw behind him

(01:47:42):
below the waist and many end up hitting a home
run later in the night. Anyway, why is he still
so upset? Well, I think both. In a situation like this,
everybody feels like they're getting short changed. It just goes
I think, why Manny is upset as this? He feels
like it all at all traces back to the slide

(01:48:02):
into Dustin Pedroia, which is, gosh, almost a couple of
weeks ago, and whish Pedroia absolved him and said, uh,
you know, I don't think it was intentional Pedroia from
the beginning, he said, I just don't think he was
trying to hurt me. And so I think he feels
that two weeks later, he's still almost two weeks later,
he's still getting thrown at, and he's feeling like, why

(01:48:25):
why is this still going on? You know that that's
really where Manny is coming from, said, He's continually getting
thrown at for something that a player in the pose
imposing clubhouse said was was not intended with malice. John Eisenberg,
Baltimore Sports calumnist at Bamore Eisenberg. He's he's so be
more that he actually started in the wire. That's how

(01:48:47):
that's how be that's how be more. I wish John
thanks so much for joining us being our guy, and
b Moore I got a guy, Josh Lewisburg joining us
beat reporter for the Toronto Sun News. Um the Toronto
Raptor is. They did make a game of it after
a sluggish start, but it never really felt that competitive.
And you looked back to last year. There are the

(01:49:07):
two wins for Toronto back up in the in the North,
in the in the sixth, but but for the most part,
it wasn't really that competitive a series. Josh, what type
of adjustments do you think they're gonna make to make
the make this series closer? I think, first of all, Dog,
you you gotta do something with the line up here.
The margin for error, as you know against the Cavaliers

(01:49:31):
is so small. The Raptors have to be close to
perfect right out of the gate, so they can't afford
to be giving up whatever it is eight ten points
up right out of the gate. Uh. Damari Carroll is
a guy who has been up and down all postseason long.
They went out at the trade deadline and acquired p J.
Tucker for in part matchups like this against Lebron James.

(01:49:54):
So that's something that they could do right out of
the gate. But I mean, they've just got to be
better tighten things up on both ends of the floor.
Whether they will or they won't is sort of unpredictable
in the game. The game basis with the team. We've
seen some good, some bad, and some ugly from the
Raptors here in this postseason. But I think they were
reminded in Game one they're not gonna be able to

(01:50:14):
get away with the ugly against this cast team. No, No,
they really won't. Um who do you think, like, who
do you think it most falls upon to perform better
for for them to be more because you know lowry
statistically de Rosen he has nine team but he was
a minus thirty two and there were spots which I've

(01:50:36):
seen him take over games this year. Is it a
bad matchup for him or was he just not playing well?
The other night Cavaliers trapped them, which I mean that's
something that he should be used to seeing after facing
a long athletic Bucks team for six games that did that,
UM and are more equipped to do that, better equipped
to do that. So I mean he's got to do

(01:50:57):
a better job of adjusting to that that he shouldn't
be seeing anything from this uh ranked Cavaliers defense. At
least they were twenty nine ranked after the All Star break. UM,
that is going to be much better and much more
intimidating than what he saw from the Bucks. I thought
his two best games in the first round were actually
sort of subdued offensive performances from him, but games in

(01:51:20):
which he was making quicker reads of the double teams,
finding guys and setting them up for good looks. That's
something I didn't think he did very well in Game one,
and he's got to do that because it's other guys.
I think they need to step up and contribute. If
they're not getting good looks, that's not gonna happen. Listen,
if the Raptors want to make this a best player
versus best player type of series, or even two best players,

(01:51:43):
are three best players versus three best players type of series,
They're gonna lose. The Raptors. Uh. They believe they're the
deeper team, they believe they're the more versatile team. And
unless they show that here in game two and for
the rest of this series, I don't think they have
a shot at repeating. Josh Louisburg, beat reporter for Toronto Raptors,

(01:52:03):
beat reporter for the Toronto Sun News. Josh, enjoy the game.
Thanks much for joining us. Alright, well, so you need
a guy. We got you a guy. Teams are trying
to trade up for Mitch Drabinski as high as five.
Do we buy that? That part of the press, which
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That up coming in moments. First, let's get to the press.
The press the idea is everything you might have missed

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and some things you might not have cared that you missed.
We're gonna kind of put together here in the next
five minutes. Here's Steve the Singer, good afternoon, once again,
some rapid fired headlines for you. The full details in
on the Marshawn Lynch contract from Mike Florio, not only
the base salary and the roster bonus, but also Lynch
can make another five point nine million beyond that with

(01:53:09):
incentives rushing yards, touchdowns, etcetera. Yeah, he's got to get
to what uh, four hundred thousand dollars for four four
hundred yards. At five hundred yards he gets to or
another four hundred thousand, so like, look two point four
million if you get to a thousand yards rushing, and
then he would be making in the four to five

(01:53:30):
million dollar territory, which is that's a reasonable contract um,
especially for a guy who hasn't played. This is a
great test case for age as opposed to wear on
the tires after taking a year off. I should point
out he was injured and he wasn't particularly good in
his last year with with Seattle. My expectations are he
won't be seeing much of much of these bonus. Teams

(01:53:51):
are trading up for Mitchell trying to trade up for
Mitchell Trabisky before the Bears actually got him. The Titans,
for example, said on Sirius X NFL Radio they were
fielding calls at number five Chicago was just the only
team that you know, they traded all the way up
to two to get Rabinsky. Yeah, but look, fielding calls
is different than we made a legit move right. So

(01:54:14):
again it's the point is it's not crazy. The Chicago
trading from three to two isn't crazy. Chicago trading from
three to two when they probably would have gotten him
at three is a little nutting. Not telling their head
coach is bizarre. And having signed Mike Glennon and not
told Mike Glennon, not told their home head coach and

(01:54:36):
drafted Rabinsky when they have so many other needs, that's
a little bit crazy. Start running back say Kwan Barkley
of Penn State already will not rule out skipping the
bowl game for his team's coming season. James Franklin said,
I don't mean this is a knock to these guys,
but especially at running back, you you don't get there
by yourself. Those offensive lineman big part of your success,

(01:54:58):
those tight ends, quarterbacks big part of your success. I
think this is a misreported story. Um. I would say
hundreds of guys were helped out by playing in bowl
games as a showcase. There's a couple of guys that
sat out running backs really hard because the attrition of
that can hurt you. My guest, though, is what James
Franklin's like. It's not about you, It's about everybody else.

(01:55:20):
We're all blocking for your all season. You're gonna play
in that Bowl game. This headline came as a result
of a Peter King colin this past week. But quote
Jed York wants to sit down with Jim Harboy's not
against a dinner with him, just not in front of cameras. Yeah.
I don't see that ever happening. They're not. You don't.
You don't have to be friends with people who you've

(01:55:41):
fired or you've let go. Like he's more successful, You're
in a better place. Time to move on. Last night's
in St. Louis, a Cardinals fan was grazed by a
stray bullet seated at a ball game at Bush Stadium
near the dugout. Treated at first aid and release. See.
I thought the Cardinals taught us how baseball was played.
I didn't know they was the weird. This is St. Louis,

(01:56:03):
not East St. Louis, where I asked for directions once
on a family vacation Utah, Jazz, responding to Matt barnes
insult about Utah's nightlife with a new T shirt for sale,
says hashtag nightlife with the jazz symbol. Well, the thing is,
Matt Barnes has to have something to do a nightlife
because he's not getting that much action when the game
is being played. And that's that's the press. Get out

(01:56:26):
there and pressed that the press. All right, we appreciate
that from Steve Sag. All right. So my wife, in
my first year of trying to do some television, Oklama City,
got me an orange shirt. So did somebody important to
you get you that orange button down dress shirt because
you've got orange socks like you've got a lot of oranges.
I love orange. I'll tell you. The most important woman
in my life, my mother got me this shirt. All right,

(01:56:48):
Well she list she listened to the show. No she
is not Okay good Uh. In the future like tomorrow
when you might get on TV, okay blues or whites
blues or whites blues or wise, it's not. I like
the color orange. It's refreshing. I'm a spring. You're a spring.

(01:57:08):
It is, in fact spring, and you have the matching socks.
As well, so you're coordinating. Do you have this you
have the mushroom belt as well? Is that what you have?
The mushroom belt, so you can coordinate, coordinate. I'll be
on the Herd tomorrow. Check me out, and I think
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