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Which shocking Lee, nobody's actually watching? All right, Let's let's
get to this story. It's actually two stories combined in
one story, in that George Kittle has a new deal,
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biggest deal ever for tight ends the National Football League
five years, seventy five million dollars. Excuse me. Kittill received
forty million dollars guaranteed for injury, thirty million dollars guaranteed
at signing. The forty million guarantees more than twice that
of any other tight end. When that deal was in
fact signed, the Chiefs are closing in on uh signing
tight end Travis Kelsey to a long term extension at
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least five years. That keeps him in the Kansas City
uniform catching passes from Pat Mahomes for the foreseeable future.
I believe it's actually been reported as a six year
deal now, so uh, Pat Mahomes has his guy and
Jimmy Garoppolo Jimmy Garoppolos, actually the quarterback has his guy,
Kelsey's deal. So Kelsey's deal is four years fifty seven
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point to five million dollars um as opposed to the
five year, seventy five million dollar deal Kelsey gets. Uh
had two years remaining on the forty six million dollar
deal he signed with the Chiefs in two thousand sixteen,
So it's five plus two four plus two. You do
the math. There's in fact the six years. Look, they're
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both going to make a lot of money in the
fifteen million dollar a year range, and this brings them
on par with not the very top level wide receivers,
but the second level wide receivers. And what what what
should be pointed out what should be pointed out is
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how underpaid tight ends feel like they've been for a
really long time. Now. That doesn't mean everyone was underpaid, right, Like,
one of the first fights I can remember in the
past ten years, over payment of a tight end was
with Jimmy Graham when he was in New Orleans. Remember
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he was had the franchise tag, and they're like, wait
a second, he catches just as many balls as a
wide receiver. Why isn't he viewed as a wide receiver
even though he's a tight end. And Jimmy Graham is
supposedly a horrific blocker right play basketball as you know
in college, and he's he's the opposite of the the
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traditional blocking tight end and he's not close to being
the two way threat that Rob Gronkowski was best at
and Kittle's probably the best at it now, right, Like
I get people who trolled me all the time I
was on Cowherd. We were talking about Gronk and when
I said Kittle is not really a blocker, I probably
could have said Kelsey's no blocker at all. But the
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idea is the ten best blocking tight ends the Nashuball
League you've never heard of before because they're not fantasy
football guys. Kittle, for how they use him, has really
embraced the idea of being able to get onto people
and to to bully smaller people. But Rob Gronkowski is
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one of the few star tight ends in the history
of the league, especially in the last twenty years, where
you could leave him man up on one of the
talent to defensive ends in the league and not feel
like it was just a sieve and that Tom Brady
is gonna be checking is, you know, looking at his
earhole every time Gronk was man up on a defensive end.
He's a great blocker as a tight end, essentially a
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sixth offensive lineman. But this, this today makes me think
of that Parade magazine that comes out once a year
in your Sunday newspaper. And I know you're like, I
don't get Sunday newspaper anymore, but when you did, you'd
open it up and Sunday newspapers like big. Right. You
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open up and it's got the coupons. Anybody cut couponspons.
I'm a coupon guy. Coupon guy. Did your mom have
a coupon book growing up? Hold on, I have something
for that. Oh here it is Craft Macaroni and cheese
fifteen cents off. But I also have a double coupon.
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Oh mom, double coupons. This is my childhood right, go
to the grocery store. And Mom's sitting there's a whole
line of people and she's like, wait, second, I have
a coupon for that. Anyway, but in the parade magazine,
you get the funny section, right, you get the and
then inside the funny section is all the coupons. And
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then there's a little magazine that pops out and says
parade across the front, and once a year it says
how much people make, and they'll have pictures of like,
I don't know, forty people, what do people, and of
those forty people to all have what they make per year,
and you'll look at me like, wow, librarian Sonoma seventy,
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I'm in the wrong line of work. Now. It may
not say that they've been a librarian for thirty years
and they work for the city, but still seven grand
with benefits and all you gotta do is s it
seems like a pretty good gig. Right. That's where tight
ends are. You know, tight ends are when we were kids,
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When we were kids, and I grew up in a
city called Orange, California. Okay, And if you want to
look at the map of southern California, if you know
where Anaheim is, where Disneyland is, that's in Anaheim. The
city directly to the right or to the east of
Anaheim is a city of Orange. Pretty big city. It's
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got the Orange Circle, which is famous for the Orange
Circle Street Fair every Labor Day. I don't know if
that's been canceled yet, but probably will be a good
way place to pick up a beer and abroad. Um
Chapman University is there. The Orange Circle is where that
thing you do is film when it's supposed to be
in Erie, Pennsylvania. It's like a throwback. That's actually the
Orange Circle. So that's what my home city is actually
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known for. But what borders Orange. There's these big hills
unincorporated Santa Ana, North Tustin, these massive houses that overlook
all of Orange County. Is a restaurant up there, and
I'll never get like you're a kid it and you're
playing on the playground at Jordan Elementary and you're looking
out at the hill and you're looking at these gigantic
houses right and to to me at the time, like
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I've never been to Beverly Hills. I didn't go down
to Laguna Hills. I didn't go down to where the
beach and all the huge money was I just thought,
those are the richest human beings on the face of
the earth. The president must live up there, right, But
in reality, when we were kids, that's where doctors lived
and that's where lawyers lived, right, That's who made the money. Now,
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I mean, the most expensive place in the country live
in San Francisco. Why because of all the tech money.
And if you've ever been in a really nice neighborhood
in a really nice city, it'll always be somebody who
owns their own business and then sold it, owned a
something that developed in tech and then sold it, or
they do some sort of something in finance. Yeah, he's
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a fun manager. He's got his own fund. Those are
the gigantic houses. Now, that's what's happened in the NFL.
That's a tap. Look, there's still doctors and plastic surgeons
and the best of the best of the best. They
still live really, really good lives. But it takes a
long time to become a doctor. You carry a lot
of debt, you have to carry a lot of insurance.
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There's a lot that goes into it. And not every
doctor lives some glamorous life up on a hillside in
the city of Orange. Right in the National Football League.
You know, it used to be quarterback and running back.
Running back was the guy. Running back is the the
doctor of the eighties. They used to make all the cash,
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they used to make all the loot, and now it's
I mean, look, quarterbacks still make a killing a killing.
And you know, quarterbacks are kind of like banks, you know,
where they're in the financial sector. They're just always they're
they're too big to fail. They're always gonna make a
ton of money. It feels like that's where quarterbacks are.
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And all the new money, the tech money is in
these hybrid players. Running backs that can catch it, run it,
and block right. I mean, that's Christian McCaffrey. And tight
ends that can block some and that can catch and
they're too big for the defensive backs and they're too
fast for the linebackers. And if you can become a
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guy who can do both, you can live up on
that hill. And today is one of the first days
I can recall where suddenly tight ends are starting to
be recognized among the league's elite wide receivers based upon
what they based upon what they make. Because this blows
the Hooper contract in in Cleveland. This blows it out
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of the water and it should Kittles better than Hooper.
Is he that much better? I don't know, but it's
a lot better. And this feels like the Parade magazine
where everybody's like, man, tight ends only make like nine
million dollars a year. That doesn't seem right. And George
was like, yeah, that's gonna change, and that just did.
And there's also kind of a run on guy is
there's some others that have to be resigned. So we
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already have two. They'll probably be a run on four
or five. And it does feel like ted tight ends
are finally being recognized as being multiple guys and guys
that you have to sometimes bracket coverage. Like the old
the old the saying to me or the the way
to look at it is if you if you're an
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offensive player and you occupy more than one defensive player,
you're much more valuable than somebody who you know, you
got one guy spying on you, go, one guy looking
at you, quarterbacks, he got all eyes on you. Obviously,
that becomes the most valuable. But can you as a
defensive end, can you occupy more than one guy? That's
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why safeties that can that can play at the line
of scrimmage and that can play all the way back
and that can be into coverage. That's why those guys
have more value than the true box safety. Sure you
come up and you're a thumper, but can we get you?
Can we trust you in coverage? Or are you gonna
look really really bad coming up next? Do we really
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think that spring football will work? Um, let's discuss that one.
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Doug Gotlip Show Fox Sports Radio. I saw this. This
was really interesting from Jeff Brown was the head coach
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of Perdue. Remember you got that huge rays going back
a couple of years ago when they had a big
season um and and fell off a little bit last
year with with a ton of injuries. He was offered
the job at Louisville, where he had played and he
had coached, and he turned it down to stay at Purdue,
and so he has this. He like took the legit time.
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This is one of my my biggest frustrations is where
people shout out ideas and they don't like flush him out,
which is it's okay, right, there's no brainstorming sessions. Brainstorming
sessions like hey, let's get some ideas out here. Everybody
throws out an idea, like hey what if gotlib does
a five hour radio show. What do you think? Okay,
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that's a lot of hours. After three, you start to
you start to get like francessa, uh yeah right, you
just do um. And so when people say like playing
in the spring, like okay, well like flush out the idea.
So he did. So here's this thing he wants Saturday January.
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That would be a long weekend. Martin Luther King weekend
until Friday, January twenty nine. Two week training can't build
up six weeks prior to game one. Sixteen hour week
has got the whole like because you're not allowed to
do twenty hour weeks unless you're in season. He's got
the break down. Four days a week, eight hours of
strength and conditioning, four hours a walk through, four hours
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of meetings. In film, it's a build up week, build
up two weeks, then four weeks of actual training camp.
Two weeks off per week, two days off per week,
maximum to practices and full pads per week. So you're
getting in great shape. You're only hitting twice a week,
and then Saturday February through April and eight game season,
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no bye week, two week prep before postseason begins, and
then you play some sort of post season. He's got
the whole postseason all lined out, and then you're done. Um,
where's the championship? You know, you could have the Rose Bowl,
the Big Ten Championship. Plan A. You gotta plan B
as well for sixteen playoff that's May one, So you're
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done in May all right, Now April to July, full
discretionary period up to three months off, no mandatory workouts
at this time. So in other words, in other words, yes,
you are playing football later, and you're gonna come back
and play in the fall. And you wouldn't actually start
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based upon his schedule until October, right, so you have
plenty of time off, which fights the narrative of well,
you know, you can't have guys play, you know, two
seasons in one calendar year, when the truth is you're
still playing into January of the next year. So you're
gonna have roughly five or six months off, which is
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really good. And I think it's interesting, you know, I
think it's interesting he cuts down a number of padded
practices he has that lined out, the number of meetings
he has, the hours, there's there's real thought that goes
into it. And and then the other part and this is,
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this is the argument I've had for people who are
in the bubble. So there's lots of eyes in the bubble.
I talked to and now obviously some of their families
have arrived from their friends have arrived, some others have arrived,
and they're like, well, it's gonna be better. But it
was really hard because it super boring. And if you
have a young family or kids are starting school, you know,
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unless they're doing virtual learning, you can't have them go
in the bubble when you know you're working. They you
know they had to be in school. And my point
to them, what is is the same like, look, I
get it, it sucks, but you did have three months
at home with nothing else to do, so you've got
to be a better parent for three months and you
ever possibly could have. You usually travel all around. This
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is excessive amounts of travel in terms of being gone,
but it does kind of balance out right. That's the
same argument you make for college football. Is this a
lot of football in a fairly short period time. Yes,
but you're actually having less hitting and practices, more conditioning,
and many of these guys if you're in college, like look,
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if you were a college freshman last year, you had
no spring football. This year, you have no in this
particular case for the Big Ten, you have no fall
football this year. So you're going a full calendar year,
full calendar year without hitting anybody, without being hit. And
if you're managing how much contact you're taking, there's a
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pretty good chance, based upon Jeff Broms set up, that
you're not taking nearly the same amount of physical contact
that you did previously, So it kind of even could
even out. Um, I think some sort of plan like
this will in fact work. I think it will. It's
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it's one of the big things that's gonna have to
happen for college football to work, for all the stuff
to work. And by the way, all the stuff runs
in at the exact same time of college basketball. And
that's where it gets really really tricky because the n
c A doesn't have oversight into college football, but they
do have oversight into college athletics, and the one place
that they raise money every year and make money every
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year is college basketball in the n c A Tournament.
And though college basketball programs don't bring in nearly the
same revenue as college football teams do, the schools do
get a bunch of revenue from the n c A
Tournament and from the TV entities. And I don't know
how that would be affected. So I like the idea
in theory in practice basketball makes it really really tricky,
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really tricky. Um My guess is he's sitting here saying
that you have training camp up until February, You're getting
in a lot of basketball then, and then the game
start February April. I guess you're gonna play the basketball
season then, And I guess the question becomes how many
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stars opt out for the NFL Draft and what kind
of team do you have left? And how do you
navigate that with your scholarships. I think that the the
answer would be this, that you know, you may end
up granting more eligibility to guys who play in the
spring season. You know a senior who wants to come back,
or a way of backfilling, or you know the high
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school seniors who normally graduate early and then go play
in college, but they play in the spring. Now would
they be eligible to play in in this spring season?
If you did that, you could have better numbers and
better development and a better depth if you lose your stars.
That makes sense. Amy making sense there because like take
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justin fields for example, right, those type of guys usually
play their high school senior season, graduate or they don't
go to prom or do any of that stuff, and
then they go right to campus and then they train
and they do spring football and they don't lose any
eligibility that that that's that starts their clock, you know,
with are those guys? Are those freshmen eligible because they
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would be on campus, you know, January when they first
start their walk thors. Now, does that mean they'll be
great players? Notes that mean they would be ready to play?
Probably not, But it does give you more bodies that
are available, especially if you're down your top four or
five players because they think they're gonna be pros. Be
sure to catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb
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Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific Doug
Otlip Show, Fox Sports Radio. Charles Robinson joins his Yahoo
Sports covering the National Football League. UH, it feels like
that profession that's finally getting recognized. Like man, I like
mat when we were kids, I said, this, Charles Matter,
we're kids doctors and lawyers. Those are the ones that
owned the big houses, right and and and that's like
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like running backs whereas now all of a sudden, tight
ends getting paid in the National Football League? Um, why
did it take so long? Because the position had to change? Um?
You know, I think I remember there was a time
when you and I watched tight ends, and the version
of tight ends that we watched for a long time.
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These were guys that, you know, we're gonna catch fifty passes,
they're gonna put up six hundred yards, and there's you know,
a four touchdown season, and that was going to be
potentially a Pro Bowl level tight end if he could block,
you know. And this isn't you know, Vasanti Shanko. This
is these are guys that frankly, they're they're closer to wideouts,
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you know, um in terms of the passing scheme now
than ever before. Um. And if they can be those
guys who can be massive mismatches, but then they're physical,
they can block, They especially love to run block. If
they're just special players they're gonna get special money, and
I think Gronk was probably you know, Antonio Gates, Gronk.
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You know, there have been a couple of guys that
have come down the pipeline where you're like, you know, uh,
Tony Gonzalez, like that is a Hall of Fame caliber
tight end. Now we're starting to see some of those
guys come through the pipeline, and I think Kelsey and
and George Kittle both fall in that mold doug otlip
show here on Fox Sports Rader that's the voice of
Charles Robinson, senior NFL reporter for Yahoo Sports. Fall on
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Twitter at Charles Robinson, check out his Yahoo Sports NFL podcast. Um,
you know, you know, I'm watching Hard Knocks and obviously
there's not a lot of buzz to it. But I
do think that because there are so many limitations in
place with how much these guys have been able to
get get together, how much work has been it will
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be done. It does. If I use that on the macro,
it feels like the teams that have the most remaining
from last year are going to be the most successful.
I eat the canc City Chiefs and the forty nine.
It doesn't it feels like a year in which teams
that stayed the same will stay the same, and see
in terms of the standings, well veterans, I mean, there's
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there's something to be said about an off season in
which teams don't get ahold of guys. You know, you
don't get them in for the O t s, you
don't get them in for the mini camps. Um you cannot.
You know, they're not in lifting. You know, these different
things and even from a you know, a schematic standpoint, um,
you know, even the classroom work. I know guys are
doing it over zoom and all this stuff, but I
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don't think it's the same um, you know, because look, guys,
guys can be competitive in meeting rooms. You know. One
of my favorite stories ever told was when you know,
Jacoby Brissette was a backup to Tom Brady and he
got to ask the question in a meeting and he
didn't answer it fast, and I like, he literally paused
and tom Brady just answered it like ran over him
in a meeting room. And basically tom Brady's message to
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him was, you know, get to let out beyond it
either answered or don't like if you can't answer it.
I'm gonna answer it for you. I don't care for
the questions to you. And you know, players lose some
of that over zoom meetings. You know, you're not you know,
some guys are very competitive in the classroom. Drew Brees
was historically like they drafted Garrett Grayson to replace Drew Brees,
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and Drew Brees ruined him in in the classroom because
he he was like, look, I'm gonna be competitive in here,
and if you don't keep up, oh well, and you know, so,
I think some of that's lost. And I do believe
that teams with veteran rosters, guys who have been there before,
gone through the monotony of certain parts of preparing, are
going to be a lot easier to deal with. And
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that's why, frankly, I'm not surprised that the Seattle Seahawks
you run into an undrafted rookie is the guy who's
trying to sneak a woman, you know, into the hotel
um in Seahawks here. I mean, it's a ridiculous story,
but that doesn't surprise. It's an all let's let's let's
take a little second though. It's an all timer right now,
mean story It's like in terms of this, like this
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is like a who wasn't had the Wisonator. I remember
who was as the running back for the Vikings. Oh man,
I can't believe I'm not going to remember this. We'll
get back to it. We'll get back to rest though.
Was up there right, Wisonator was? Was was down there?
But up there? Yes, um Kima Severan who played at
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A and M and Oklahoma State. He tried to sneak
a girl in. It was Ontario Smith. There you go
on tereo. Smith is all that's he's always good to
have a producer in your ear, ye yes, and the
Internet and the Internet, the network. Um so. So he
tries to seek her in and she dresses with seahawks
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gear in an effort to be thought of as a
as a seahawk player, which I mean, I would hope
she doesn't look like a seahawk player. I guess that's
actually the good takeaway from it is she was attractive
enough to not be you know, misconstrued with Sam Gash
right like, she didn't she didn't look like a dude.
She didn't have traps popping out of her ears like
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some of these NFL dudes yeah, she she didn't have guns.
You know, she's not walking in with the you know,
the Aaron Donald's guns. But yeah, look it's it's definitely
an all timer. But I'm also like, yeah, this this
doesn't blow my mind in terms of knowing, you know,
this is a young I'm sorry, but young guys. Not
that not that veterans don't make stupid mistakes, but I
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think this is one of those seasons knowing what a
lot of those NFL p A calls were like, you know,
knowing you know who got involved in this process and
you know, being concerned. In a way, it mirrored um,
Weirdly enough, I think it mirrored society. Like when I
when I would talk to people, you know, with the union,
they would say like, yeah, you know, you don't hear
a lot of concern from the two year olds, Like
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most labor situations, you don't hear a lot of concerns
from the twenty four year olds. But it's the guys
that are in their thirties who know how hard it
was to stick in this league. Um, who know that
hey grinding out five, six, seven years and a pension
and you know, you know, providing for your family while
playing football as long as you possibly can. Those tend
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to be the guys that, um, don't make a mistake
this stupidness early. Now that's not to say that a
vet won't do it in November, you know, that's not
to say there won't be a Clevinger situation or you know,
a Miami Marlins situation where people just start to do
stupid stuff out of the sheer boredom of what this
is going to be like. But I mean, come on, man,
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we're like right on the doors that we just got here.
We just got here. You know, they're not even pads yet,
there's not there's no contact, like and for this to
happen now is just absolutely you know, it's foolish. But
you you have a lot of teams around the league
that their hotel situations are set up and the rookies
are in the hotel. So like the Los Angeles Charges
a good example. I was talking to somebody with the
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Chargers and he said, yeah, man, you know we we
do have a hotel set up and he said, that's
where the rookies are. And he said, and there are
rooms available for the veterans that they want them. And
they're like, but you know, that's where where we're putting
our rookies. And I sat there and I thought, man,
I you know, if if there's gonna be something dumb
that happens, it's probably gonna be with the rookies in
the hotels because they're not completely cordoned off, and um,
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you know, those are the guys that are probably gonna
be least responsible up front, even though that you know,
some of them clearly need jobs and you know are cutible.
But it's yeah, this is just I'll tell you what.
It is. Another one of these moments though, and Major
League Baseball has provided most up to this point. But
it's another one of those moments that other teams are
gonna seize upon. And I'm telling you, I guarantee the
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next couple of days, and I wouldn't I wouldn't even
be surprised we saw it on Hard Knocks. I guarantee
you're gonna see um coaches or or personnel, you know,
tms who are saying two players, Hey, look at what
just happened, Like desorbed that? Because that's real, and that's
gonna happen here if this happened. Doug Otli Show here
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on Fox Sports Radio Charles Robinson joining us that said,
it did it felt like a lot of quick opt
outs before the guys really knew what the protocols looked like.
I know that was how that that was how the
deal worked. Um yeah, you know when I saw hard knocks,
was like, yeah, I mean they got like legit protocols.
It feels like they'll be prepared. I do understand. You
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know that that this this hard condition is is a
real possibility if you contract COVID, And that's the that's
the big fear. My thing is I actually think you're
just as likely not more likely to contract COVID at
home as you are, uh in a facility. You're playing football.
The only differences you're being tested daily in the National
Football League. That said, like, how badly hurt was Kansas
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City Damian Williams. Obviously they replaced in the draft, but
he was there. It might have been their best player
for most of the Super Bowl. And then you lose
a really talented offensive lineman. I know that New England
was badly hurt, but it feels like Kansas City was
as well. Yeah. You well, Kinscy, you lose, you lose
a veteran offensive lineman. You lose a rookie offensive lineman.
So that's that's depth right there. I mean, so you're
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you're seeing depth lost. You know, you talk about losing
a running back who is a veteran, multi talented. Not granted,
you did take a running back in the first round
and who's going to be extremely talented in Clyde Edwards Hilaire.
But um, this the problem is with rookie running backs.
Those are typically unless they're really special guys, those are
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people who teams don't trust until you're halfway through a
season because they have to prove that they can protect
a quarterback. And um, you know, so yeah, from a
death standpoint, it it definitely isn't great. But Kansas City
is just I mean, they've loaded. It's ridiculous. Like you
look at the roster and you just sit there and
you go, they kept everybody, didn't lose Chris Jones. They
extended them, you know, they they extended um, the you know,
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the the quarterback, they extended the tight end, they extended
all these special players. And they didn't suffer yet. And
I think next year's really we're gonna see this moving forward.
They didn't suffer. The gutting that happens to a lot
of Super Bowl teams where all of a sudden in
free agency, a lot of like mid tier guys seem
very attractive because they're coming off of super Bowl teams. Um,
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I think that's still a year away for Kansas City.
But to me, yeah, I think I think even though
they lost a little bit, I just don't see how
Kansas City didn't walk like walk out of this offseason going, man,
it's it's here for us, like we we could we
could very easily repeat um as as champions this year.
You know, We've got all these pieces in that offense
is just it's absurd. And this may actually be one
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of the few years where off the bat offenses should
be way ahead of you know, usually it's opposite defenses
are way ahead. But I think if you haven't a
veteran offensive group knows the scheme, knows and you have
a quarterback who has a cannon like you know, Patrick
Mahomes and who who can be um creative, which is
where the league is with quarterbacks, defenses are gonna have
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a hell of a time with Kansas City already, and
I think this is going to be one of those
those seasons where not having the hitting, not having all
that continuity in the offseason is going to hurt the
defenses that faced them right away. I would not the
f C West is good luck in ten years you're
going to be drafting to deal with Pat Mahomes for
ten years. Um. But last thing, Charles Robinson joining us
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Dog Gotli show here on Fox Sports Radio. Charles a
senior NFL reporter for y'all Who Sports has a great podcast,
y'all Who Sports NFL podcast. You do talk to lots
of people in the league. What's the level of confidence
that this thing will go off on time? I think
it's better, I really do. I think it's improved because
I think the fear was when the COVID testing began
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and guys started getting the facilities. The fear was that,
you know, there could be a huge spade of positives
that they just don't know we're there and um, or
that there would be some asteroids like just like maybe
some big time quarterbacks would would have it, or in
the opt outs there would be some you know, just
mind blowing opt outs. Now you know there were there's
some good players that opted out, there's no doubt, But
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I mean, like you know, people are like, oh, c J.
Mosley opted out. I'm like, all right, c J. Mosley
wasn't really on the field for the Jets last year.
I mean, um km, hey, where's that guy could have
opted out? You know, for for the Pittsburgh Stealers, didn't.
Von Miller's guy could have opted out for the Broncos.
So like even some of these guys, I think we're
sort of expected stars who could have opted out didn't. Um.
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I think teams were optimistics that it wasn't this huge
run of of super above board guys. The pat it's
for surprising with the number, but and then beyond that,
the testing, the overall testing. Even the union's like, hey,
it's well below one for everybody, Like you throw everybody
in it, and and that matters. You've got to have
the cauldron of personnel, people, support staff, every everybody there
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for it to be well below one percent. And you're
just starting here. Um. And and it hasn't really gone
in the opposite direction, you know, in the early going,
I think people feel a lot better about it. And
now they're let me put it this way, right now,
teams are struggling with like, hey, if we're gonna have fans.
How do we figure that out? It's less of an
operational you know, football standpoint. We'll shift a little more
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toward that when they hit each other and they start
hitting each other, um, you know, the third week of August,
you know, so about ten I think we're like ten
twelve more days from that. We'll see then if if
the dynamic changes a little bit. So I said, I
see it was good. Yeah, I said it was the
last one. I lot, I got one more. Joe Montana
told USA Today that that Tom Brady said they live
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into him and then didn't take any of his suggestions.
How much of that is because we always operated under
the premise that him Andy Daniels were boys, were close,
you know, and and that McDaniels and his relationship was
like like brothers. Um I was. I was a little
bit surprised. I'm not surprised in terms of it's based
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upon personnel, but in terms of what they did and
how they did it, that's kind of surprising him. Yeah,
and and I actually think it's a little bit of both. Like,
you know, I'll give you example, like he he was
upset about Antonio Brown, Like he really was upset that
that they, you know, just washed their hands of Antonio Brown,
particularly because Tom was such a big part of getting
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him in there, getting him on the right page, accepting
him like I mean, Brady brought him into his home,
like all these different things, and then you know, the
Patriots pulled the plug and and frankly, you know, Tom's
pretty cutthroat, and I think part of his thought process
was you just took awig. I could have been the
difference from like you know, and then he said out
there and you saw they struggled offensively. I think that
was part of it. Um. I would like Joe to
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be a little more specific. You know, I've heard only
put it to this way. You've heard a lot of
stories over the years over what was frustrating Brady and
and it's been a you know, myrated different things. And
I think those things are all going to bleed out
over the years and maybe someday there's a you know,
the Big Last Dance documentary or the Lance document whatever
it is. And it was obviously it's coming because Tom's
cut that deal, um, and I think some of that
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stuff maybe eventually might get out. It's it's gonna be
been coming upon Tom though to actually say, like here
a couple of things that really pissed me off. And
I'll say this about what Montana said. Don't don't think
that there weren't some legitimate frustrations on on Tom's part
in terms of he felt he always felt like he
deserved a bigger seat at the table, and in terms
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of the decision making and or at least the input
and feeling like he was heard not uncommon with quarterbacks.
I mean, there's so many of these, Aaron Rodgers another
guy I want to be heard, They want to be
well look look it's it's it's actually a lot like Aaron,
I want to be heard. And yeah, by the way,
don't be drafting somebody to replace me, right, Like, I mean,
I was told Peyton Manning, who's like the best. But
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every time someone's drafted Indianapolis, he'd called the g M
be like who is this guy? Like what why are
we taking the Well, you know, it didn't it could
be seventh round, it didn't matter. They all are kind
of wired the same. Charles, we gotta run great stuff.
Can't wait to hear the next pod. Yeah who Sports
NFL podcast? Charles Robinson FALM on Twitter as well. Thanks
so much, Charles. Unfortunate news for one championship contending the NBA.
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there won't be any fall championships because they don't have
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to compete since they already had their season canceled last spring.
Not just coming down from Mark Emmerts. Okay, fascinating stuff.
Uh So, Mark Emmert says, look, do we ain't get
the teams? It is happening everywhere. It's gonna be interesting. Well,
what's I think most interesting is do you see this
(36:40):
story where big ten schools are having inter murals? They
don't have they don't have a sports that they got intermurals. Anyway,
I'd love to see some of these football players show
be like you guys got a flag football game? Justin
Fields is out there, just diamond dudes up. I got
some bad news for the Spurs fans. They needed either
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Memphis or Phoenix two of the three, or Portland to
lose two of those three. Phoenix right now taking it
to Dallas seventy four, three minutes left in the third
Grizzlies beating Milwaukee as they're about to wrap up the
third quarter ninety two to seventy four. Now, if these
scores hold, Phoenix would need Portland to lose tonight to
the Nets to get into that eight nine playoff. Memphis
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with a victory would lock up their spot in that
eight nine. So Memphis wins and Phoenix is out, even
though they're undefeated in the bubble. If Portland wins tonight, yes,
and Portland plays who the Nets, which is really a
wild card right because the Nets have been playing hard
for no apparent reason. Yes, it's it's absurd that that
with with nobody right, like the best players aren't playing
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and yet the nets are still playing and playing pretty well.
And us opened one of Raphael and dolland Roger Federer.
We knew that. But Novak Djokovic will play or remember
he tests depositive for COVID nineteen in June, but he
says he will compete with the Grand Slam event starts
August thirty one in Queens. I mean imagine if he wins,
it's like, okay, one, but the other two, you know
(38:06):
grades aren't playing, they'll just leave the trophy on the
court for him to get by himself. That's yeah, that
would be weird. Right backing out there and pressed that
the press. I check out my all new All Ball
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people's money. Uh, tight ends got paid and rightfully. So
it's it's an evolving changing of the times and we'll
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