August 22, 2020 • 48 mins
Playoff festivities have officially started inside in the NBA and shockingly enough Ben and his battered wingman chew on it. The Lakers and Clippers had drastically different starts to their postseason runs and predictably, the guys have different feelings about the debut.
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and yet again, right over there, coming in from west
of the four oh five crossing, just across the four
oh five David gascon. It's a pleasure to be here,
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as as always a little rough to get off the
freeway and head eastbound off the four oh five freeway,
but unlike my counterpart, I actually drive to work. I
take the extra step. I don't have a luxury of
ten thousand dollar equipment in my house that I can
do from my happy beds. So I am here. I'm
loud and proud. It's gonna be here. And before you
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diff gold, Now, is it difficult for you to pull
the victim card out right away from the bottom of
the da you had at the top? You know, because
today today's society, it's profitable to be a victim. And
that is true. It's profitable to say that I am
a victim of Back in the old days, I heard
that society used to say, no, just suck it up
and don't be a victim. But now they don't want
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you to suck anything up. They don't want you to
just let you know, it's like water off a duck's back,
or they don't want that. No, No, you gotta you
gotta have everything soaking and be angry. You need to
be angry, triggered whatever it maybe lie in the middle
of the road. Um, before we get into any kind
of nonsense, Wheeler, yesterday was was fantastic. That is a
(02:39):
great get for you from you appreciate that a lot
of fun to I. I just rolled through my phone list.
Here another big name that happens to be in my
phone book on my iPhone, and we'll have to go
through that and find there's plenty others though I look
at my context here, big name after big name. I
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never talk to any of these people actually, because why
would I do that? But but I have them in
my phone now or any of them. Do any of
them have a title like an EP or CP which
stands for executive producer or coordining producer, because no other
people i'd be interested and talking to you. Well, they
don't want to talk to you. Well, maybe we can
range something like a cocktail or you know, having some
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cold one. You know, they don't they don't know you
are a pimple on an elephant's ass, which you are.
That's just the way it is. Well, let's before me
getting any of that, I must say, since we did
that fun talk down session with with Wheeler yesterday, one
of the guys that we work with, Brian Finley, comes
to mind. Oh, here we go. It's fainly right away.
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Pull out your pull out your fifth hour Bingo card.
If you had not in there. It's not on that's
not on the No, it's not And the reason why
I bring this's not on there? Really I gotta go
back and check. I thought it was on there. You do,
you have to go check real quick. And why you
go check? I will say Brian did. Brian did something
pretty fun a few days, like, oh uh, he does
stuff that are is a little bit off the beaten
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path with Fox Sports Radio and he does some some
vlogs and he interviewed our colleague of ours, Jonas Knox,
and it was for a good fifty two minutes, I believe,
And if you get the chance anyone that can do this,
I recommend you you go over to Brian's Twitter account
and you look up the interview with with Jonas, because like,
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we work with a lot of people here, colorful people,
some that are black and white, some that are vibrants,
some that are flat, and there's some guys that are dogs.
And like you talk about the Clippers a lot because
they got that dog mentality, Like Jonas has that dog
mentality and and he talks about it during during the
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q and A between him and Brian, So you know,
we've worked with him for a long period of time,
and so seeing him like he works some stupid hours,
like you work stupid hours, and and to see guys
like that drive it's it's always good because he obviously
comes in for you when when you have like the
rare days off, well, when I have my furlough days, yes,
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the rare day is off. Yes, those coming up in September,
by the way, right right, So I'm just saying, like,
before we get into any of our amateur hour stuff, Um,
you can always go over to Brian's social media. Noticed
that Finley they're locally locally do hasn't had me on
his podcast? He hasn't had you on the podcast. That's
a little bit different. We've come from different you know,
(05:29):
from different passages and pathways. Oh is all right, So
you're like a rival of his and he doesn't want know,
it's nothing like that. I just think that, you know,
for that kind of content and that kind of audience
that he has, I think you need to have someone that's, uh,
that would actually be riveting. I don't know, I'm not
gonna talk to me and I got nothing good. That
is true. You are not riveting. You prove that every
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week here and our podcast. Yes, It kind of reminds
me of You're you're ode to Fox Sports Radio and
the happy birthday, happy anniversary. Whatever you gave, Well, I celebrate.
You know, if you ever worked somewhere for twenty years,
you can celebrate. Also, is all right, you can celebrate.
We'll get We're gonna get to that come down one.
I can jumped the gun all of a sudden, you
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bad at a bad job by you. You got to promote,
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Cameo dot com about Cameo dot com. You want a
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We've had a lot of members of the militia that
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shout outs and birthday messages and weddings and all kinds
of stuff. UH even had people call UH call up
cameo and say hey, or actually on the website and
I call up and say, hey, you, I want to
hear male do a rant about team X or Team
Y or Team Z, and Uh, I will do that. Still,
nobody has requested that I do a cameo with Bella
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that is not has good. So we're still waiting for
that to break Bella's cherry in the cameo world. I'm
surprise angry Bill hasn't called up so cameo dot com
Ben Maller for that. Yes, guess what happens if someone
puts in a request for you to do some live
play by play of them having sex with their significant other?
Would you do that? Well? My rate would be higher
on that. My rate would be higher on that. But
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unlike Joe Buck, I'm open mind. If the every everyone's
got a price. Every man has a price, So if
they reached my price point, it could be six figures.
I'm good. I'm good on that. I'll do it. Why not?
Who do I have to live? Nothing at all? That
would be some great content. Yes, could go all the
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what all right now? Also, if you want to get
us on a social media Twitter, Ben Mallard, just's my name, Instagram,
Ben Mallor on Fox and Facebook Ben Mallard Show. So
those are the ways you can hit us up on
hit me up on social media and Gascon. You are
(08:21):
also available on all those different and Twitter odd stuff
at David J. Gascon Instagram is is that Dave Gascon?
No Facebook, though I've successfully divorced that back in two
thousand eleven. You're on TikTok though, so that no, I
am not on Chinese propaganda TikTok I, and I am
not no, so you're on Parlor? Are you on Parlor?
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I did create account and account, but I haven't like
used it at all. Have you have you done? I
did create one too, but I have not. I went
on there and I don't quite know how to use
it. It It doesn't seem like there's as much it's obviously
not not as many people on there. And uh, yeah
I was on there like one time. I created account
because we told me to do it and I didn't. Yeah,
(09:03):
I didn't see a lot of activities, so I was like,
you know, all right, speaking of activity, I will ask
you this since we mentioned it last week on a
couple episodes. Um. Our colleague Mike Harmon sent me a
text a few days ago about this, So I want
to ask you, did you take the plunge into Tesla?
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Oh with the uh? You know I I did not.
And and here's the thing, Like they cracked to two thousand,
I understand. I understand that they cracked it. We're talking
at those like fifteen nine year or something like that. Well,
you know, I talked to a real financial adviser this week,
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guestcon who actually was like, you know, if you actually
look at the economics of the like Tesla and how
they Tesla is a great company. I think they'll be
around forever. But they don't actually make a lot any
money on the cars, which is the meat of their business.
You know what I'm saying. There's a lot of a
lot of things that plus it's just so expensive. I
did not get in, but I'm I'm I'm thinking about
(10:05):
getting some more Apple. Uh. You gotta diversify, though, you
gotta diversify the biggest It is tempting with all these
big companies that are having stock splits not that I
am a stock market expert, because I'm not. No, but
I'm more I like the real estate, but I can't
afford the real estate. At least I can afford the
Wall Street. I can afford a little bit to buy
some stock. And it's great now on a lot of
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these apps, you can you don't even have to buy
the full stock if you can't afford that, you can
buy part of a stock. That's great, even like a
dollar you know the app that I use, I sent
you which you used one time and then that was it.
But they they set it up where you can, you know,
buy five bucks worth of you know, pick your favorite company, Apple, Tesla,
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uh Google, which I get, Alpha bet or whatever. You're
gonna pick your favorite companies and go for it. That's
pretty nice, Pretty nice. So we've we've got the Bingo,
the Roaring Twenties and popcoy is Slash Study Survey this alright,
So let's start with the Bengo card here and we
referenced it already. This is great. Big props to our
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guy Greg and Iowa who has put together the Fifth
Hour with Ben Mallord Bingo card. Because there's certain things
that just happened every freaking time. We cracked the microphones
on the fifth hour every weekend. And I'm looking at this.
I got my big board up here, my big bingo board.
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Now unfortunately put my logo right there in the middle. Yeah,
can we you need to update your fucking head shot? Man.
I know I take the worst photos, man, but you look,
you look bloated here. No I was. I Here's what
happens the company. I've been here for twenty years and
I think there's been about five times that they've had
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photo shoots to promote the talent. Every time. I don't
even know when these things are happening. But about three
months before the photo shoot, not knowing there's a photo shoot,
I fatten up like a turkey before Thanksgiving and uh,
or a cow before going to slaughter and uh. And
so I take the worst freaking photos in the world
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and uh, and it sucks. It's terrible and lot. But
but yeah, that's a bad photo, man, That's a bad
that's all over the internet. That's what the company sends
out to these affiliate you know, the stations that put
on their website. So it's disgusting. Yeah, which is weird
because you have an old photo that I heart and
Premiere promotes. I think it was on the fourth or
fifth floor. But as with you in a black blazer
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and you looked and you yeah, you looked like fifty
pounds lighter in that one. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am
Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Yeah, there's one one time they
took a photo. Is that actually on the fourth or
foot floor? Really? Yeah, they had, Yeah, because they it
was on one of the flat screen TVs. They was
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gonna say I was not an actual photo because I
I'm not that level. There are if you walk around
the hallways of the Premiere Networks where the legends of
broadcasting work, you know you've reached elite status when they
have your your photo up like Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Steve Harvey,
these type of people, um and there are you know,
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Clay's got one, Gottlieb. But some of the guys at
Fox Sports Radio I did not make the cut, did
not make the cut. There's no photograph of me anywhere.
I walked. All those floors in the building, they are
the different floors. The Premiere Networks was on did not
see a photo. Uh, I'm sure that was an oversight
and I know they will correct that right away unless
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we go so so and it's the Bengo card. Uh,
this was Greg and Iowa great idea, very creative and
so some typical Bengo card. Now some of the items here,
and you gotta play Fifth Hour with Ben Mallard bingo.
You've got starting from left to right, you've got Tomahawks
steak Mrs Mallard Houston asterisk l A Dodgers. Mallard mansion
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is on there. You've got the stock market. We already
talked about the stock market, so you've already won that.
Moving man matt Our guy from Boston. Uh, surgeries, which
is a popular topic here. That's good weasel words. I
love my weasel words. Narcissist gascon. That's a good one.
Can you really spell it right? Oh? Who cares? You
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know what he meant? Dummy, narcissist gascon. You've got high
school football broadcast, the Seattle Flight. That's right. Gascott is
so jealous of the Seattle Flight. He brings this up
every week because you had a caller pay for a
first class. Here we go, see I mean we go.
You're neurosis is popping up, your ross is popping up.
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You've got a free space kaboom. Uh, David Gagon, which
is great baseball hats. That's right, baseball hats. I love
my baseball hats. The militia has been great, man. I
got the Mad Hatter of sports Jeder. You guys have
been wonderful size eight. By the way, if you want
to send one in and I need, I still haven't
gotten my first like to support law enforcement. I'm not
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None of the police guys that listen have sent me
one of the hats, so I don't have one of those.
Be or not to be? Well, that's every week we
did the b or not to be? Uh, the apocalypse,
which is popular third rail rail politics, Well that's Gascon's baby. Man.
He dragged me. How do you figure it's me? You
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dragged me down, and then you blindfold me and gagged
me and dragged me down in the sewer of politics.
Justin in Cincinnati his name popped up. Here do we
talk about Justin and Cincinnati? Never like, unless you're talking
about someone flying across the country to get coronavirus to
get laid like you know, like if you're not working
like you know, let me know. One brings up that
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So we could take we could take Justin out and
put Finley, Brian Finley in there. No, because we barely
talk about Brian well every week recently we've talked about
that knucklehead over We talked about him one time and
another time was when you have you allowed him to
do ten in it updates? That's like a little bit
I don't allow him to do. Of course you do,
it's your show. You have no control over any of
these people. You think I have control over these people? No,
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I don't. I have no They do what they want.
I do what I want and hopefully it works. Uh,
here's another box west of the four oh five. Well
that's a big one. Yeah, that's a money box, but
it's in a weird spot, like down at the bottom line.
That should be center square. Yeah, that should be center square.
You've got l a Clippers. Shout out the People's team.
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Tito's tacos. God, I love titos. I gotta get the
titos like I've been to titos in a while. If
Greg experienced titos tacos, he might really appreciate that. Yeah,
you would want us to have mentioned titos, tacos more
show prep that's also popular food pictures. Well, that's Gascon's
baby and Laker hate. No, it's not Laker hate Gregg,
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it's Laker reality. Is what now that that's seasonal thing? Anyway,
that is a available if you want to check that out,
if you want to update your own fifth Hour Bingo board.
That came from Greg and Iowa is Twitter handle is
g M twenty four web. So Greg and Io was
Twitter handled GM twenty four web. Our guy Fats in
Philly said that was brilliant. So if Fats said that
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the most die hard Philadelphia Delaware Valley sports guy and
he was impressed by that fifth Hour bingo board, Uh,
that's that's pretty good and that that does mostly sum
up the show. That mostly sums up what we do
for an hour a day on the weekend. And you
can't have beer not to be and not include like
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study this or that's fine? No, no, no, you being
be or not to be is your little thing. Were
you upset when the and we'll do beer b be
or not to be tomorrow? But were you concerned when
Twitter shut down Twitter account? Twitter put beer not to
be a satire website on time out? Why did they
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get what are they get in trouble for? For being satirical?
So stupid, so so ridiculous. It's the world we're in
the world we live in. A sign of the time,
it's a good beingo card. Does this rival the Lebron
James Bingo card? Oh? The Lebron one is great? Yeah,
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theve I love that one. That will become a staple.
Now I'm gonna say that Lebron every time the Lakers lose,
I'm gonna go to my Lebron Bingo card and the excuse,
Yeah Lebron. Who's the one of our co workers? Is
a several big Lebron fanboys? Uh, we have a lot.
The guy he does a weekend show here to some
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podcasting stuff, did TV? Oh Jason McIntyre, Yeah McIntyre. I
don't really know him. I've met him a few times,
but he's got to be like the biggest Lebron fanboy
that I know that works in the company. Right, I
think he would admit to it, right, I think he
would admit to it based on his comments. He is
really right there, and I think he cares more about
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Lebron and Lebron's family. Now, I think so Berard's up there,
brus Sorry, it is another one he's on. They like
him a lot, fortunately me and like Rob Parker, we're
the truth tellers here. You guys are way on the
other side of the fence on this one. Yeah, we're
are the truth tellers on that. But yeah, the Lebron
If you didn't see that, a listener actually sent this
to me. I guess a big one around the internet.
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But it's excuses for Lebron by bronze sexuals Bingo. Now
did you that's good? Did you get the athletic reporter
to respond to your tweet about him just foaming at
the mouth? Did he respond to me? I don't know what.
I was curious if he did. Oh, I I don't know.
I didn't check. I mean, yeah, that guy was. He's said,
Lebron's got nothing to play for now because the fans
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aren't at the games in Orlando. He's explained that's why
he lost. That's that's good. But that the Lebron Bingo card,
the one that the ones that are my favorite on
that are Uh, he had a triple double? What more
couldn't I love that, or thirty five years old, seven
year seventeen, that's why gron was hurt. You know, all
those things are hilarious. Uh, just just great. Uh. You know,
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I'm grateful that someone came up with this because this
at least gets to distract you from from attacking every
good athlete in the value of the sun, like you've
gone on this onslaught of the last, like you've taken
unnecessary shots at Kyler Murray and Devin Booker. Not unnecessary.
I just report the facts. When when Pro Football Focus
(20:32):
comes out and says Kyler Murray was the thirty second
ranked quarterback and I got guys like you, they're giving
him a shoulder rub in a bubble bath, and I'm like,
wait a minute, it's a disconnect between reality and how
this guy played. He played like his height, He played
small small ball in Arizona. Kyler to be playing second
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base in baseball somewhere. I would have taken him last
year over at Jared goth That's for sure an idiot.
Um that's j Goff let a team to a super Bowl.
Jared Goff beat Drew Brees and the Saints in their
building in the playoffs. What is Kyler, little Man Murray
the Garden him done. He's a Heisman Trophy winner. Um,
that's not a gimmick offense. At Olklohol the place back.
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Everyone was winning the Heisman at Oklahoma in those days.
He had Baker May that was heisman. You please, boy,
when you got against Devin Booker. By the way, the
guy runs some some gravy treans and I know the guys,
guys puts up empty stats. I'm like the NBA. See.
This is why I try to tell you, because you're
you're like this, You're the low information, low information fan.
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You don't understand the nuance, right, you don't understand the
nuance of breaking down an NBA game. And I learned
from the legends back in the day how to properly
break down an NBA game. But you can't handle that.
You can't handle the truth. Man, as Tony Bruno would
say back in the back in the old days of
Fox Sports Radio. But but no, I mean you don't
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get that just because you have the gaudy stat line
does not mean that you have played a complete game
and deserve to be fond O. I'm well aware of that.
There's no you are not. There's guys like Kevin Love
and Alex Rodriguez when he was in Texas and in
Seattle to come to mind that the stat stuff for
his I get that. I don't think you do, but
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I don't think so you failed to acknowledge that Booker
led a Phoenix team. Ain't no in the bubble. They
covered the spread eight times. That's a young played the schedule.
Schule be as soft as it is right now. I
merely pointed out that the Sun's does not prove that
they're they're on the come and they're gonna be a
great team next year. It's nothing. It was a it
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was a one off situation until they do it again.
They played such shitty basketball the first part of the
year that even going eight no, they still couldn't get
in the playoffs. Well, how about that because Damian Lillard
didn't even want to go to the bubble. How about that?
Like quite a remarkable turnaround. The guy did not want
to go into the bubble and play because he didn't
think they qualified for the playoffs. They found a way
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to get in, and he was lighting it up prior
to the postseason starting. And now they've gotten off to
a good start in round number one. So yeah, yeah,
well Lillard was he raised hotly hell and all that.
He was complaining and you know, listen, everyone complains. Yeah,
he was complaining. I thought that whole thing was ridiculous.
And the Blazers they're not a good team. They should
(23:29):
beat the Lakers. And we hope they will beat the Lakers.
What I mean, we we hope they will. Like Who's
the Wei, be sure to catch live editions of The
Ben Maller Show week days at two am Eastern eleven
pm Pacific. Um. The people like Wheelers. Majority of Wheeler's
not rooting for Portland to beat l A. Wheelers is
a Wheelers not on this, But I'm talking about the hard,
(23:49):
hard working, salt to the Earth people. I want to
go back to the box score thing because and I say,
the low information fan. Yes, you know. One of the
problems with people they tend to think in extremes like oh,
you put up the great status and he was a
great game moment because that's easier to understand because you're
not that bright nuance. It kind of messes with your understanding.
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Can be frustrating and say, oh, how could you say
you didn't play well, well the last three minutes of
the game when it was anyone's game and he puked
all over the court. That's that's the nuance. You can't
handle that. You gotta complete the mission. Like when you're
when you're flying a battle plane in combat. There you're flying,
you're flying a fighter jet and you have you know,
(24:32):
seven or eight great bombing runs and then you get
shot down because you made a mistake. Are you gonna
say that was a wonderful day. No, you gotta complete that.
You gotta get back safely. How about that? Comparing Lebron
James to a fighter pilot, Yes, successful fighter pilot touching down. Yes,
it is the comparison. So why would you First of all,
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there's four quarters in the game. So I I understand
the how the game is amplified and the closing it's
of a game, But to get the game to where
it is, where it's competitive or clothes, I mean, you
said it yourself. That's like, you know, let me run,
me run the New York Marathon. I'm going twenty five miles,
maybe I'll even go twenty six miles, but that last
point two miles, you know what I took you there? Finish,
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eat yourself. I'm done. No, but I'm gonna wash my
hands with it. That's when you're you're enmurging that this
is what a loser you are to lose his mentality. Guests,
I'm a better fan than you. I'm a better fan
than you. High standards, you have, low standards I have.
I have big expectations. That's why I have brought you.
Know you don't. That's why you sound like I've carried
(25:37):
you from terrestrial radar to the digital realm. So I
have expectations, the feelings, the the ideas we gotta carry.
We gotta put that on that fifth hour Bingo card. Greg,
you gotta update the baby card. You gotta get rid
of Justin. Put that on there, get one of these
other things. Put Finny on there. Yeah, you can do
that way, Like, come on, Mattie, you can't say you
just said the other night with Philadelphia and Boston like
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they looked so disinterested after they at a six point
lead at the end of the first quarter. The ideas
to get and the ideas to get out of the
blocks and then progressively get to where you want to
be in the fourth quarter. You can only do so
much if you're one guy not you can only do
so much. Let me get my violin, the smallest violin.
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You're a Lebron family I didn't really know Alebron fan boy. No,
I I agree that he should be maxing out more
as opposed to defer in every other guy that he's
gotten that roster because those guys can't shoot for Dick
from outside, and so he needs to take over games
like he could when he was with Miami or Lebron
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can't shoot from the outside. I know that you have
you seen. Well, there's a great hold on. I say,
there's a great stat and I got it. Now you're
gonna make me go to my archive here. I didn't
even use this on the air. That's a bad job
by me. Why not? Uh? What's that? Why not? Were
you stand backing it for another show? No? No, you
know we ran out of time because I overprepared guests.
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I know this is something you're not familiar with. Do
you When do you over prepare? You run monologues longer
when the Lakers lose than you do when the Clippers lose,
Like you cut your monologues and I did a great monologue.
You know, I don't get credit for it when I
ripped the Clippers and I tore into Paul George and
the Clippers when it was it was a two possession
game or whatever. Actually not even it was a one
score it's eighty three. The other night in Game two
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against Dallas, with two minutes and thirty eight seconds to
go in the third quarter, and they got outscored by eleven.
That was the game. They just stopped playing and instead
of being a one score game going to the fourth quarter,
the Clippers played like dog food and ended up uh
ended up down by thirteen and they never got back
in the game. But Lebron check this out. Now, this
is not including the game on Thursday night, So this
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is only Lebron through the first part of the bubble
and the first game against the Blazers. Lebron has become
Ben Simmons. Lebron James has become Ben Simmons. Here's my evidence. Okay, alright, Lebron.
Outside the restricted area, you know what the restricted area
guests going. You're a basketball guy, do you know what
restricted areas? Tell the guy in Fargo what a restricted
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areas because he might not know the restricted areas. The
paint and yes, the lane right near the basket. Right,
Lebron outside of the restricted area, outside the paint is
shooting twenty eight percent. Inside the bubble, he's a less
than thirty. That's Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons is fine if
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he's in the paint. If he's outside the paint, forget
about it. Forget about it. Well, you know what it
could be. It's great. You know what that is. That's
solid NBA information. That's what Tony Bruner would say back
in the day. Now I think he said knowledge. He
would say knowledge. I think I think there's a good
explanation for the lack of shooting efficiency that Lebron's sustaining
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or last you know, to three weeks. It's because there's
no fans in attendance. There's no there's no there's no
there's no juice. There's no juice in the building. Obviously. Now,
do you feel embarrassed by the fact that the Clippers
lost game to to No, no, no, no, there's inferior team.
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That's what the media, the mainstream media, your colleagues, were
looking for a sweep or a five game series between
the Clippers and the Mavericks. This I'm not I'm not
concerned because it'll just make it that much more enjoyable
when they finally win. Like you have the best players
in the NBA, and they were nullified, like they were
nullified on the fourth, but it wasn't really. Patrick Beverley
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did not play. And he's really he's the glue guy.
Patrick Beverley learned his name, learned his name son, Patrick Guy.
Never Junkyard Dog, the guy guys that Junkyard Dog. He's
the heart and soul. He's the motivational guy out on
the court. Now he's junk of it. That you got
that right, that's you know, you got the guys and
everyone loves he's old school Patrick Beverley. He's the instigator.
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And those those punk guys on the Maverick, those thugs
like Porzingis on the Mavericks got who got reacted, and
they reacted to the to the instigator, the Patrick Beverley
and some of those other guys there. Beverly sparks the fuse.
That's what Pat Patrick Beverley does. I love those pesky guys.
Every championship team has to have some agitator on it,
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and Patrick Beverley is one of those guys. Clippers have
a lot of them. Fortunately, Uh, these these guys that
work as lighter fluid, and I like. I like those
kind of guys on my team. I like. I don't
like him on the other team, but I like him
on my team. I think they got pushed around in
Game two. Did get pushed around all they weren't interested.
I didn't take the Mavericks seriously. And if you don't
take an opponent seriously, you gotta compete. You gotta play
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with energy the team. Remember the great Bill Fitch, Bill Fitch,
Hall of Fame coach. When I was covering the Clippers
and those morbid days, and Coach Fitch whould coach Larry
Bird and Elijah Want all these greats in his NBA
career with the Celtics and the Rockets, and they had
to coach dog teams like the Clippers and the Nets
at the end. They were terrible in those days. But um,
(31:10):
but Bill Fitch, he he used to talk about the
fact that to win in the NBA, and this is
years ago before all these gayzy statistics and all that,
he said, you win the hustle stats in basketball, but
just play with more energy. And if you play with
more energy, you're gonna win the hustle stats and and
hustle stats. If you're not familiar, if you don't know
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what that means, that is essentially, um, you know, drawing charges,
deflecting loose balls, getting rebounds, setting screens, getting the fifty
fifty balls, all that kind of stuff, all that that stuff.
In fact, the Clippers were so bad they never actually
won the games in those days very often, so they
put a hustle board up in the arena. It was
(31:52):
the most cheeseball thing at the sports arena. But I
remember they put a hustle board up because Fitches, like
his mindset was, we're probably gonna win the game, but
if we hustle, we'll have a chance and uh, and
so maybe we'll win the hustle board. Yeah, it's painful.
It was. It was, but it is true if you
watch an NBA game, even if you know nothing about
the teams that are playing, the team that is deflecting
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passes and Phil Jackson and Kobe Bryant say hands on
balls right, hands on balls right. That is the key blocks, steals, rebounds,
uh and all that contested shots, charges drawn. That's the
kind of stuff that frustrates frustrates the opponent, and you're
tipping passes away that bothers them, that cuts under their skin.
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And and when you're on defense and you're able to
do that, and that sets the tone. You fight through
screens and all that stuff, all those little things. Yeah,
and that reminds me of the early two thousand Lakers.
I mean, you have like Derek Fisher, and Ron Harper
and Glenn Rice, and Rick Fox and Ori and Kobe
and Shack. Like I could see that this is this
equates to why they were so successful. You know, I
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can only hope that Clippers can be reminded of something like, Yeah,
little Clipper hater, you were. You know, why don't you
clean up your own house? The Lakers went out and
puked all over in Game one. Now this is a series,
and we don't know what happened in Game two as
we're doing this, but I promise you the Trail Blazers
are not intimidated by the La La Lakers. I didn't
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have them getting out of the second round. To be
frank with you, I have Houston the Clippers in the
Western Conference finals. Players is showing some basketball knowledge, all right,
So let's get to the roaring twenties, if you will
here so as a Fox Sports Radio celebrating this week
it's twenty anniversary, twenty years of continuous network sports radio
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broadcasting doing God's work here behind the microphones of Fox
Sports Radio. Now. I have been asked guestcount by several
Brigadier generals about the early days of Fox Sports Radio,
and I'm one of the few that experienced that in
the first first part of the run of Fox Sports Radio.
And I've been fortunate to be you with the company
(34:00):
for most of the time except for six months and
twenty six days. Not that we're counting, No, I didn't.
I didn't count. I just just just random. Um. I
could have said seven months, but it wouldn't be correct.
Six months and twenty six days is not seven months.
It's six months in twenty six days. It's not six
months because it's twenty six days. More than six months
is closer to seven months. So it's twenty it's six
(34:20):
months and twenty six days. So anyway, I I I
will give you what I remember. Gonna give a brief
for a synopsis of what I remember. Alright, So when
the network launched, now, the network started, I was hired
about a month after the network originally launched. And this
when it When Fox Sports Radio launched, it was a
big ESPN Radio was like the only real game in town,
(34:44):
I think was it One on one sports and Sporting
News Radio were around still in those days, I believe,
but they were secondary operations. It was ESPN Radio at
the time was the eight hundred pound guerrilla in this
worts radio game. And so this was a originally and
it still is a conglomeration between Fox Sports Television and
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at the time it was Clear Channel, which has become
I Heart Media. That's how long ago this was. And
and so obviously I was a low man on the
totem pole. But I remember meeting with Tom Lee, who
was the programming man behind Fox Sports Radio when it launched,
and and e Z and all these people, and they
were filling out the lineup card much like a bingo card.
And they had no weekend programming past like six o'clock.
(35:33):
I don't even think they had weekend programming for part
of the day part on the weekend. They only had
shows during the week and they didn't have a full lineup,
and so that worked to my advantage. They hired me
originally at Fox Sports Radio. I was hired as a
utility guy. I was an update guy. I would do
weekend fill in hosting and uh, you know, plug and
(35:55):
play guy, plug and player. I play me anywhere I
can play. I got a million glaw was and and
all that. So that's what they hired me for originally,
and in fact it was it was so early on
the studios that are now twenty almost twenty years old.
We didn't have they weren't completed. They were still doing construction.
I remember when i'd go down to take a tour
and I had to wear a hard hat because they
(36:16):
were still doing construction because it used to be at
Denny's and they were putting the thing together when it launched,
and we were broadcasting from the Michael Reagan studios, the
adopted son a president, Ronald Reagan, and he had a
syndicated show at the Premiere then Premiere Radio Networks, and
so I remember that. I also remember my first shift,
(36:37):
my first update shift. The person that showed me the
ropes at Fox Sports Radio was a just an update
guy that occasionally worked on the morning show named Andrew Siciliano,
who has gone on and done some big things for
himself at the NFL Network and Direct TV and all that.
But Siciliano was the guy that showed me the ropes
and how to do the updates and work the equipment
(36:59):
and all that stuff. So so I remember that, and uh,
and then you know, I randomly remember some of the
early shows. UM. The first person I did a talk
show with it Fox was Jason I. We we did
a weekend show together, myself and Jason Smith. We had
a weekend show we did together, and I remember that.
And also I remember like one of my early update
(37:20):
shifts UM was in like January of oh one, so
it was a couple of months after I had started,
but it was a Saturday, and I remember it. It
was sometime in January of twenty one. But the the
plane carrying the Oklahoma State basketball team, one of the
planes and with a couple of like players and a
broadcaster crashed and they all died. And all I remember
(37:41):
having to I was like, I was going, I don't
want any breaking news to happen, you know, I was
have smooth shift, And I remember the U having to
report on that. How that's like then obviously been working
on nine eleven was another one, the Boston Marathon bombings,
and a couple of years ago. I used to have have
been more than a couple of years now, So I
have been random things that you were on the radio
for that you remember. But it's been it's been interesting,
(38:03):
and uh it's been it's been fun. A lot of
people that Gascon does not respect that worked here, like
Tony Bruno, Bruce Jacobs, Mike North. We have had North
on the podcast. Bruno, We gotta get Bruce Jacobs on
the podcast. You know who need to get on is
Craig Kitchen. Yeah, that was you get him on. We
get Craig on, Yeah, Mark Patrick. Craig Kitchen was the
(38:26):
executive at Premier Networks who ran the joint and is
a big powerful radio executive, which I think is why
you want him on. I believe that's why you wanted
I met him once. Um, I actually met him once,
and I think I asked I met him several times
at parties. Well, yeah, I've never met him like in
that setting, but I met him here once and I
think I either asked you or Tom Looney about him,
(38:47):
and uh, one of you were speaking glowingly about it. Oh,
he's great. Craig Kitchen is wonderful. Yeah, I don't know
how even most I say most, but a lot of
these radio executives, like higher really higher up corporate muckety monks,
just they don't get the business. Like Craig got it.
He got it. He was relatable to talent. He looked
(39:08):
out for the people that are on this side of
the microphone. A lot of the people that are in
management only care about the people that are in the
sales department. I don't really care about the people on
the air that much. But yeah, Craig was wonderful. And
the one guy I wish I could have met and
obviously is not around, is the one that you speak
about highly is was Andy Andy Ashwood Andrew Ashore wish Yeah,
(39:31):
Andrew Ashwood, who was legend in San Antonio radio. And yeah,
he was great. I was upset I every once so
while I go back, and there was a memorial that
they put on somebody put on YouTube from his when
he passed and it showed his career and he was
a d J I think in Phoenix or Milwaukee. I
(39:52):
think it was Phoenix though, and his on air name,
Andrew Ashwood was b J. Hunter. Was his on their name,
and uh, it was just funny, you know, obviously as
different times. Now, of course, oh you know, I'm offended
by that. We can't have that. But back in those days,
in the wild days of radio in the seventies or
the early eighties, you could do that. And he ended
(40:14):
up becoming a radio executive. And uh, and you know
there's another guy. He started on this side of the
microphone and then crossed over. So you're like, you have
a different perspective than if you don't have that that experience.
There are some that you know, So there's some people
I've worked for that didn't get on the air that
still get it, but they're far a few between. Now.
I was reading I was reading something, um a few
(40:36):
days congratulations, you were reading something this is a big
accomplish a few days ago, and uh, I was. I
was shocked at the individual that said this. But this individual,
talking about the network and Fox Sports Radio said I'm
a big believer that a chain is only as strong
as its weakest link. It's a team effort at Fox
Sports Radio, from management on air, behind the scenes, support staff,
(41:00):
all the above, and it goes that is an absolutely
profound statement a great statement. What a fucking liar you are.
What a fucking you're talking about it. That's an accurate call.
You're saying that was that was taken out of context.
Is that what you're saying? Yeah, I think you. I
think I was looking out for the little guy. If
not my theory, but people I work with it, they
(41:22):
work hard and they have desire and ambition. I'm a
big ambition guy. I believe an ambition. Now, show up
Coughlin standard time, right when you coach the giants, you know,
show up early, work hard, take pride in your work right,
have a little fire in your belly all that. Uh.
It's like the old quote from the Sports of Story
(41:42):
and who we had on Fox Sports ready years ago
he passed away I think a year ago, Harvey former
fromer Rather. He said, you've got to outwork the horse,
and if you do that, I will defend you. I
will have your back no matter what. You have that determined. Now,
unfortunately there's a lot of people who don't have that,
and uh, for that I just attacked. But but the
(42:04):
rest of the people that many of them do the
hard work. I like the people that are maniacal, that
want to be great, want to improve. I'm all about that.
I'm still waiting for you to get my back. Um, Well,
when you started showing perseverance, when you starting that right,
when you start having a little moxie and all that,
and then then I'll do it. I got plenty of moxie,
I got crisp, I got grit, and I showed the
(42:27):
verse all. Now you say those words, but you don't
know what those sweat equity, sweat equity, no days out.
I walked the other day it was a hundred and
fourteen degrees coundred and fourteen degrees where I live out
of the desert here. And you you, of course you
were those real photoshopped or whatever. It's fake and all that.
(42:51):
But I was trying to teach you a lesson on
what you fail the lessons I was teaching the lesson
about grit. I was teaching lesson about toughness, backbone, fortitude,
all of that having having resolved, and you just spat
in my face. You've failed the test. Guess you've You've
only taught me a few things. You've taught me. One
(43:14):
never used the company phone, Um to never let a
falling star fall on you. That is right. That's a
great line. Thank you for that. Three, um never trust
anybody and uh and four do not fall under the
wrath of Ben Malley. Otherwise you'll turn out to be
like like Jake Warner or Bob gillra what's wrong with
(43:36):
Jake Warner Bob Garrett? Those are fine people. Both have
done great things. Take Warner, you've got the lead engineer
for the Los Angeles Clippers and the l A. King's
a great job. He's gone on to bigger and better things.
Bob Garrets on a day part during the day, which
is more important. Nobody cares about overnight or night radio,
but Bob Garret works on a day part that's important.
TV guys. He's working with, not some lowly radio overnight guy.
(43:59):
When did we need to have the Mallard tree blossom
a little bit? The Mallard tree is great. Many of
these people have gone on and done wonderful things. I
don't know what you're talking about, but try to try
to get a little resiliency in your game. Plenty. I
tried a little bit, a little bit, a little bounce
back ability we like to call it. There. It's like
my man Victor Break used to say back in the day,
(44:20):
the bamboo that bends is stronger than the oak that resists.
Oh boy, it's Japanese haiku from Vic the Brick. It's true.
Be like the bamboo, bend like the bamboo. And I'm
I'm like a prize fighter. I got a tough chin.
They call me guest on Bamboo Benny. That's what they
call me, Bamboo Benny. You're fucking embarrassing right now. I
(44:42):
don't think twenty years that's a long time to be
out of network. That's h that is. I am stunned.
I can't believe it. I don't know. I you know what,
it's it's great. Somebody was asking me about that too,
and I was like, I don't know. I never even thought.
I was like, I just believe in that cliche day
by day and all that in by inch, which is
your philosophy. But yeah, just you know, one step at
(45:05):
a time, keep your head down. Yeah, apparently it works.
I remember this network from when I was when I
was a teenager because I was stopped. I was a
big friend of job Jim Rome stop. Because Jim Rome
would have his his show. It would be played on
repeat in San Diego, so whenever I drive down with
my family had listened to Rome in the morning time,
and then when we drove back from San Diego it
(45:27):
was on in the afternoon time. So well, Rome would
in the early days, Rome was on the network, but
wouldn't say Fox Sports Radio. Why um, because he had
he was on ESPN affiliates and things like that, and
so there was a conflict. So even though Fox Sports
Radio carried the Jim Rome Show, he would say Premier Networks.
So he never I don't he ever said Fox Sports Rade.
(45:51):
Here's another fun fact. This is the twentieth anniversary. Fox
Sports Radio had a deal with w f A n
SO for weekend programming with Mike and the mad Dog
doing shows, not together. But one day Russo would do
a show and the other day Francessa would do a show.
And as I remember, and maybe I'm wrong on this,
those guys Russo showed up to do the show several times,
(46:14):
but Francessa almost never did. It was always like, you know,
Jody McDonald or somebody was filling in for him, and
uh yeah, so he he didn't really do that very often. Uh,
we've we've wasted most of our a lot of time.
Now we have a decision make. We could do pop
quiz here briefly and do some of those have a
lot of those questions. We could save that for the
(46:34):
next podcast. So it's really your discretion here, guests. That's
beautiful turning it over to the pilot. I haven't I
haven't talked to I'm a pilot in a long time.
Where has he been on on the social media? That
reminds men, I've not talked to a few people. I
don't know what happened to him. I don't he vanish?
Has he gone? And maybe he finally realize you're a
fraud and he distanced yourself, distanced himself from you because
(46:55):
you're bad news. I don't know about that. Hopefully he's
flying across the country or across the world. Even was
flying all over the place sending us photos of random
city braggadocious about how look at look who where I am?
Look at where I am right in a long time?
But anyways, I digress. Uh, yeah, let's turn it over
to tomorrow. Let's go to Sundar, right, so we do. Man,
(47:15):
That means tomorrow is gonna be jam packers. We've got
the pop quiz. We got study. Uh, this will do
some of that. The b or Not to Be mail bag.
That's a lot of content. We'll just have to get
right into that tomorrow. Yes, that's fine. They're dicking around
by you. I don't mean you spent I didn't not
plan on talking about the bingo, but we that I
didn't bring it up. We actually started talking about sports,
(47:38):
so I know we did a sporty this is a
sporty podcast. We did some XS and os NBA type
of broadcasting. You know someone's gonna picture about that, right, Well,
you're talking about sports, talk about the politics. What's wrong
with you? Yes? All right? Uh, anyway, listen, I have
a great rest of your day. Remember cameo dot com.
(47:59):
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(48:19):
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and yet again, right over there, coming in from west
of the four oh five crossing, just across the four
oh five David gascon. It's a pleasure to be here,
(01:31):
as as always a little rough to get off the
freeway and head eastbound off the four oh five freeway,
but unlike my counterpart, I actually drive to work. I
take the extra step. I don't have a luxury of
ten thousand dollar equipment in my house that I can
do from my happy beds. So I am here. I'm
loud and proud. It's gonna be here. And before you
(01:53):
diff gold, Now, is it difficult for you to pull
the victim card out right away from the bottom of
the da you had at the top? You know, because
today today's society, it's profitable to be a victim. And
that is true. It's profitable to say that I am
a victim of Back in the old days, I heard
that society used to say, no, just suck it up
and don't be a victim. But now they don't want
(02:15):
you to suck anything up. They don't want you to
just let you know, it's like water off a duck's back,
or they don't want that. No, No, you gotta you
gotta have everything soaking and be angry. You need to
be angry, triggered whatever it maybe lie in the middle
of the road. Um, before we get into any kind
of nonsense, Wheeler, yesterday was was fantastic. That is a
(02:39):
great get for you from you appreciate that a lot
of fun to I. I just rolled through my phone list.
Here another big name that happens to be in my
phone book on my iPhone, and we'll have to go
through that and find there's plenty others though I look
at my context here, big name after big name. I
(02:59):
never talk to any of these people actually, because why
would I do that? But but I have them in
my phone now or any of them. Do any of
them have a title like an EP or CP which
stands for executive producer or coordining producer, because no other
people i'd be interested and talking to you. Well, they
don't want to talk to you. Well, maybe we can
range something like a cocktail or you know, having some
(03:20):
cold one. You know, they don't they don't know you
are a pimple on an elephant's ass, which you are.
That's just the way it is. Well, let's before me
getting any of that, I must say, since we did
that fun talk down session with with Wheeler yesterday, one
of the guys that we work with, Brian Finley, comes
to mind. Oh, here we go. It's fainly right away.
(03:42):
Pull out your pull out your fifth hour Bingo card.
If you had not in there. It's not on that's
not on the No, it's not And the reason why
I bring this's not on there? Really I gotta go
back and check. I thought it was on there. You do,
you have to go check real quick. And why you
go check? I will say Brian did. Brian did something
pretty fun a few days, like, oh uh, he does
stuff that are is a little bit off the beaten
(04:04):
path with Fox Sports Radio and he does some some
vlogs and he interviewed our colleague of ours, Jonas Knox,
and it was for a good fifty two minutes, I believe,
And if you get the chance anyone that can do this,
I recommend you you go over to Brian's Twitter account
and you look up the interview with with Jonas, because like,
(04:24):
we work with a lot of people here, colorful people,
some that are black and white, some that are vibrants,
some that are flat, and there's some guys that are dogs.
And like you talk about the Clippers a lot because
they got that dog mentality, Like Jonas has that dog
mentality and and he talks about it during during the
(04:46):
q and A between him and Brian, So you know,
we've worked with him for a long period of time,
and so seeing him like he works some stupid hours,
like you work stupid hours, and and to see guys
like that drive it's it's always good because he obviously
comes in for you when when you have like the
rare days off, well, when I have my furlough days, yes,
(05:08):
the rare day is off. Yes, those coming up in September,
by the way, right right, So I'm just saying, like,
before we get into any of our amateur hour stuff, Um,
you can always go over to Brian's social media. Noticed
that Finley they're locally locally do hasn't had me on
his podcast? He hasn't had you on the podcast. That's
a little bit different. We've come from different you know,
(05:29):
from different passages and pathways. Oh is all right, So
you're like a rival of his and he doesn't want know,
it's nothing like that. I just think that, you know,
for that kind of content and that kind of audience
that he has, I think you need to have someone that's, uh,
that would actually be riveting. I don't know, I'm not
gonna talk to me and I got nothing good. That
is true. You are not riveting. You prove that every
(05:50):
week here and our podcast. Yes, It kind of reminds
me of You're you're ode to Fox Sports Radio and
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got a price. Every man has a price, So if
they reached my price point, it could be six figures.
I'm good. I'm good on that. I'll do it. Why not?
Who do I have to live? Nothing at all? That
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thousand eleven. You're on TikTok though, so that no, I
am not on Chinese propaganda TikTok I, and I am
not no, so you're on Parlor? Are you on Parlor?
(08:42):
I did create account and account, but I haven't like
used it at all. Have you have you done? I
did create one too, but I have not. I went
on there and I don't quite know how to use
it. It It doesn't seem like there's as much it's obviously
not not as many people on there. And uh, yeah
I was on there like one time. I created account
because we told me to do it and I didn't. Yeah,
(09:03):
I didn't see a lot of activities, so I was like,
you know, all right, speaking of activity, I will ask
you this since we mentioned it last week on a
couple episodes. Um. Our colleague Mike Harmon sent me a
text a few days ago about this, So I want
to ask you, did you take the plunge into Tesla?
(09:24):
Oh with the uh? You know I I did not.
And and here's the thing, Like they cracked to two thousand,
I understand. I understand that they cracked it. We're talking
at those like fifteen nine year or something like that. Well,
you know, I talked to a real financial adviser this week,
(09:44):
guestcon who actually was like, you know, if you actually
look at the economics of the like Tesla and how
they Tesla is a great company. I think they'll be
around forever. But they don't actually make a lot any
money on the cars, which is the meat of their business.
You know what I'm saying. There's a lot of a
lot of things that plus it's just so expensive. I
did not get in, but I'm I'm I'm thinking about
(10:05):
getting some more Apple. Uh. You gotta diversify, though, you
gotta diversify the biggest It is tempting with all these
big companies that are having stock splits not that I
am a stock market expert, because I'm not. No, but
I'm more I like the real estate, but I can't
afford the real estate. At least I can afford the
Wall Street. I can afford a little bit to buy
some stock. And it's great now on a lot of
(10:27):
these apps, you can you don't even have to buy
the full stock if you can't afford that, you can
buy part of a stock. That's great, even like a
dollar you know the app that I use, I sent
you which you used one time and then that was it.
But they they set it up where you can, you know,
buy five bucks worth of you know, pick your favorite company, Apple, Tesla,
(10:48):
uh Google, which I get, Alpha bet or whatever. You're
gonna pick your favorite companies and go for it. That's
pretty nice, Pretty nice. So we've we've got the Bingo,
the Roaring Twenties and popcoy is Slash Study Survey this alright,
So let's start with the Bengo card here and we
referenced it already. This is great. Big props to our
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guy Greg and Iowa who has put together the Fifth
Hour with Ben Mallord Bingo card. Because there's certain things
that just happened every freaking time. We cracked the microphones
on the fifth hour every weekend. And I'm looking at this.
I got my big board up here, my big bingo board.
(11:30):
Now unfortunately put my logo right there in the middle. Yeah,
can we you need to update your fucking head shot? Man.
I know I take the worst photos, man, but you look,
you look bloated here. No I was. I Here's what
happens the company. I've been here for twenty years and
I think there's been about five times that they've had
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photo shoots to promote the talent. Every time. I don't
even know when these things are happening. But about three
months before the photo shoot, not knowing there's a photo shoot,
I fatten up like a turkey before Thanksgiving and uh,
or a cow before going to slaughter and uh. And
so I take the worst freaking photos in the world
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and uh, and it sucks. It's terrible and lot. But
but yeah, that's a bad photo, man, That's a bad
that's all over the internet. That's what the company sends
out to these affiliate you know, the stations that put
on their website. So it's disgusting. Yeah, which is weird
because you have an old photo that I heart and
Premiere promotes. I think it was on the fourth or
fifth floor. But as with you in a black blazer
(12:36):
and you looked and you yeah, you looked like fifty
pounds lighter in that one. Be sure to catch live
editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am
Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Yeah, there's one one time they
took a photo. Is that actually on the fourth or
foot floor? Really? Yeah, they had, Yeah, because they it
was on one of the flat screen TVs. They was
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gonna say I was not an actual photo because I
I'm not that level. There are if you walk around
the hallways of the Premiere Networks where the legends of
broadcasting work, you know you've reached elite status when they
have your your photo up like Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Steve Harvey,
these type of people, um and there are you know,
(13:17):
Clay's got one, Gottlieb. But some of the guys at
Fox Sports Radio I did not make the cut, did
not make the cut. There's no photograph of me anywhere.
I walked. All those floors in the building, they are
the different floors. The Premiere Networks was on did not
see a photo. Uh, I'm sure that was an oversight
and I know they will correct that right away unless
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we go so so and it's the Bengo card. Uh,
this was Greg and Iowa great idea, very creative and
so some typical Bengo card. Now some of the items here,
and you gotta play Fifth Hour with Ben Mallard bingo.
You've got starting from left to right, you've got Tomahawks
steak Mrs Mallard Houston asterisk l A Dodgers. Mallard mansion
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is on there. You've got the stock market. We already
talked about the stock market, so you've already won that.
Moving man matt Our guy from Boston. Uh, surgeries, which
is a popular topic here. That's good weasel words. I
love my weasel words. Narcissist gascon. That's a good one.
Can you really spell it right? Oh? Who cares? You
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know what he meant? Dummy, narcissist gascon. You've got high
school football broadcast, the Seattle Flight. That's right. Gascott is
so jealous of the Seattle Flight. He brings this up
every week because you had a caller pay for a
first class. Here we go, see I mean we go.
You're neurosis is popping up, your ross is popping up.
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You've got a free space kaboom. Uh, David Gagon, which
is great baseball hats. That's right, baseball hats. I love
my baseball hats. The militia has been great, man. I
got the Mad Hatter of sports Jeder. You guys have
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to send one in and I need, I still haven't
gotten my first like to support law enforcement. I'm not
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None of the police guys that listen have sent me
one of the hats, so I don't have one of those.
Be or not to be? Well, that's every week we
did the b or not to be? Uh, the apocalypse,
which is popular third rail rail politics, Well that's Gascon's baby. Man.
He dragged me. How do you figure it's me? You
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dragged me down, and then you blindfold me and gagged
me and dragged me down in the sewer of politics.
Justin in Cincinnati his name popped up. Here do we
talk about Justin and Cincinnati? Never like, unless you're talking
about someone flying across the country to get coronavirus to
get laid like you know, like if you're not working
like you know, let me know. One brings up that
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So we could take we could take Justin out and
put Finley, Brian Finley in there. No, because we barely
talk about Brian well every week recently we've talked about
that knucklehead over We talked about him one time and
another time was when you have you allowed him to
do ten in it updates? That's like a little bit
I don't allow him to do. Of course you do,
it's your show. You have no control over any of
these people. You think I have control over these people? No,
(16:08):
I don't. I have no They do what they want.
I do what I want and hopefully it works. Uh,
here's another box west of the four oh five. Well
that's a big one. Yeah, that's a money box, but
it's in a weird spot, like down at the bottom line.
That should be center square. Yeah, that should be center square.
You've got l a Clippers. Shout out the People's team.
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Tito's tacos. God, I love titos. I gotta get the
titos like I've been to titos in a while. If
Greg experienced titos tacos, he might really appreciate that. Yeah,
you would want us to have mentioned titos, tacos more
show prep that's also popular food pictures. Well, that's Gascon's
baby and Laker hate. No, it's not Laker hate Gregg,
(16:52):
it's Laker reality. Is what now that that's seasonal thing? Anyway,
that is a available if you want to check that out,
if you want to update your own fifth Hour Bingo board.
That came from Greg and Iowa is Twitter handle is
g M twenty four web. So Greg and Io was
Twitter handled GM twenty four web. Our guy Fats in
Philly said that was brilliant. So if Fats said that
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the most die hard Philadelphia Delaware Valley sports guy and
he was impressed by that fifth Hour bingo board, Uh,
that's that's pretty good and that that does mostly sum
up the show. That mostly sums up what we do
for an hour a day on the weekend. And you
can't have beer not to be and not include like
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study this or that's fine? No, no, no, you being
be or not to be is your little thing. Were
you upset when the and we'll do beer b be
or not to be tomorrow? But were you concerned when
Twitter shut down Twitter account? Twitter put beer not to
be a satire website on time out? Why did they
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get what are they get in trouble for? For being satirical?
So stupid, so so ridiculous. It's the world we're in
the world we live in. A sign of the time,
it's a good beingo card. Does this rival the Lebron
James Bingo card? Oh? The Lebron one is great? Yeah,
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theve I love that one. That will become a staple.
Now I'm gonna say that Lebron every time the Lakers lose,
I'm gonna go to my Lebron Bingo card and the excuse,
Yeah Lebron. Who's the one of our co workers? Is
a several big Lebron fanboys? Uh, we have a lot.
The guy he does a weekend show here to some
(18:42):
podcasting stuff, did TV? Oh Jason McIntyre, Yeah McIntyre. I
don't really know him. I've met him a few times,
but he's got to be like the biggest Lebron fanboy
that I know that works in the company. Right, I
think he would admit to it, right, I think he
would admit to it based on his comments. He is
really right there, and I think he cares more about
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Lebron and Lebron's family. Now, I think so Berard's up there,
brus Sorry, it is another one he's on. They like
him a lot, fortunately me and like Rob Parker, we're
the truth tellers here. You guys are way on the
other side of the fence on this one. Yeah, we're
are the truth tellers on that. But yeah, the Lebron
If you didn't see that, a listener actually sent this
to me. I guess a big one around the internet.
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But it's excuses for Lebron by bronze sexuals Bingo. Now
did you that's good? Did you get the athletic reporter
to respond to your tweet about him just foaming at
the mouth? Did he respond to me? I don't know what.
I was curious if he did. Oh, I I don't know.
I didn't check. I mean, yeah, that guy was. He's said,
Lebron's got nothing to play for now because the fans
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aren't at the games in Orlando. He's explained that's why
he lost. That's that's good. But that the Lebron Bingo card,
the one that the ones that are my favorite on
that are Uh, he had a triple double? What more
couldn't I love that, or thirty five years old, seven
year seventeen, that's why gron was hurt. You know, all
those things are hilarious. Uh, just just great. Uh. You know,
(20:11):
I'm grateful that someone came up with this because this
at least gets to distract you from from attacking every
good athlete in the value of the sun, like you've
gone on this onslaught of the last, like you've taken
unnecessary shots at Kyler Murray and Devin Booker. Not unnecessary.
I just report the facts. When when Pro Football Focus
(20:32):
comes out and says Kyler Murray was the thirty second
ranked quarterback and I got guys like you, they're giving
him a shoulder rub in a bubble bath, and I'm like,
wait a minute, it's a disconnect between reality and how
this guy played. He played like his height, He played
small small ball in Arizona. Kyler to be playing second
(20:53):
base in baseball somewhere. I would have taken him last
year over at Jared goth That's for sure an idiot.
Um that's j Goff let a team to a super Bowl.
Jared Goff beat Drew Brees and the Saints in their
building in the playoffs. What is Kyler, little Man Murray
the Garden him done. He's a Heisman Trophy winner. Um,
that's not a gimmick offense. At Olklohol the place back.
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Everyone was winning the Heisman at Oklahoma in those days.
He had Baker May that was heisman. You please, boy,
when you got against Devin Booker. By the way, the
guy runs some some gravy treans and I know the guys,
guys puts up empty stats. I'm like the NBA. See.
This is why I try to tell you, because you're
you're like this, You're the low information, low information fan.
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You don't understand the nuance, right, you don't understand the
nuance of breaking down an NBA game. And I learned
from the legends back in the day how to properly
break down an NBA game. But you can't handle that.
You can't handle the truth. Man, as Tony Bruno would
say back in the back in the old days of
Fox Sports Radio. But but no, I mean you don't
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get that just because you have the gaudy stat line
does not mean that you have played a complete game
and deserve to be fond O. I'm well aware of that.
There's no you are not. There's guys like Kevin Love
and Alex Rodriguez when he was in Texas and in
Seattle to come to mind that the stat stuff for
his I get that. I don't think you do, but
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I don't think so you failed to acknowledge that Booker
led a Phoenix team. Ain't no in the bubble. They
covered the spread eight times. That's a young played the schedule.
Schule be as soft as it is right now. I
merely pointed out that the Sun's does not prove that
they're they're on the come and they're gonna be a
great team next year. It's nothing. It was a it
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was a one off situation until they do it again.
They played such shitty basketball the first part of the
year that even going eight no, they still couldn't get
in the playoffs. Well, how about that because Damian Lillard
didn't even want to go to the bubble. How about that?
Like quite a remarkable turnaround. The guy did not want
to go into the bubble and play because he didn't
think they qualified for the playoffs. They found a way
(23:07):
to get in, and he was lighting it up prior
to the postseason starting. And now they've gotten off to
a good start in round number one. So yeah, yeah,
well Lillard was he raised hotly hell and all that.
He was complaining and you know, listen, everyone complains. Yeah,
he was complaining. I thought that whole thing was ridiculous.
And the Blazers they're not a good team. They should
(23:29):
beat the Lakers. And we hope they will beat the Lakers.
What I mean, we we hope they will. Like Who's
the Wei, be sure to catch live editions of The
Ben Maller Show week days at two am Eastern eleven
pm Pacific. Um. The people like Wheelers. Majority of Wheeler's
not rooting for Portland to beat l A. Wheelers is
a Wheelers not on this, But I'm talking about the hard,
(23:49):
hard working, salt to the Earth people. I want to
go back to the box score thing because and I say,
the low information fan. Yes, you know. One of the
problems with people they tend to think in extremes like oh,
you put up the great status and he was a
great game moment because that's easier to understand because you're
not that bright nuance. It kind of messes with your understanding.
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Can be frustrating and say, oh, how could you say
you didn't play well, well the last three minutes of
the game when it was anyone's game and he puked
all over the court. That's that's the nuance. You can't
handle that. You gotta complete the mission. Like when you're
when you're flying a battle plane in combat. There you're flying,
you're flying a fighter jet and you have you know,
(24:32):
seven or eight great bombing runs and then you get
shot down because you made a mistake. Are you gonna
say that was a wonderful day. No, you gotta complete that.
You gotta get back safely. How about that? Comparing Lebron
James to a fighter pilot, Yes, successful fighter pilot touching down. Yes,
it is the comparison. So why would you First of all,
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there's four quarters in the game. So I I understand
the how the game is amplified and the closing it's
of a game, But to get the game to where
it is, where it's competitive or clothes, I mean, you
said it yourself. That's like, you know, let me run,
me run the New York Marathon. I'm going twenty five miles,
maybe I'll even go twenty six miles, but that last
point two miles, you know what I took you there? Finish,
(25:16):
eat yourself. I'm done. No, but I'm gonna wash my
hands with it. That's when you're you're enmurging that this
is what a loser you are to lose his mentality. Guests,
I'm a better fan than you. I'm a better fan
than you. High standards, you have, low standards I have.
I have big expectations. That's why I have brought you.
Know you don't. That's why you sound like I've carried
(25:37):
you from terrestrial radar to the digital realm. So I
have expectations, the feelings, the the ideas we gotta carry.
We gotta put that on that fifth hour Bingo card. Greg,
you gotta update the baby card. You gotta get rid
of Justin. Put that on there, get one of these
other things. Put Finny on there. Yeah, you can do
that way, Like, come on, Mattie, you can't say you
just said the other night with Philadelphia and Boston like
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they looked so disinterested after they at a six point
lead at the end of the first quarter. The ideas
to get and the ideas to get out of the
blocks and then progressively get to where you want to
be in the fourth quarter. You can only do so
much if you're one guy not you can only do
so much. Let me get my violin, the smallest violin.
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You're a Lebron family I didn't really know Alebron fan boy. No,
I I agree that he should be maxing out more
as opposed to defer in every other guy that he's
gotten that roster because those guys can't shoot for Dick
from outside, and so he needs to take over games
like he could when he was with Miami or Lebron
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can't shoot from the outside. I know that you have
you seen. Well, there's a great hold on. I say,
there's a great stat and I got it. Now you're
gonna make me go to my archive here. I didn't
even use this on the air. That's a bad job
by me. Why not? Uh? What's that? Why not? Were
you stand backing it for another show? No? No, you
know we ran out of time because I overprepared guests.
(27:03):
I know this is something you're not familiar with. Do
you When do you over prepare? You run monologues longer
when the Lakers lose than you do when the Clippers lose,
Like you cut your monologues and I did a great monologue.
You know, I don't get credit for it when I
ripped the Clippers and I tore into Paul George and
the Clippers when it was it was a two possession
game or whatever. Actually not even it was a one
score it's eighty three. The other night in Game two
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against Dallas, with two minutes and thirty eight seconds to
go in the third quarter, and they got outscored by eleven.
That was the game. They just stopped playing and instead
of being a one score game going to the fourth quarter,
the Clippers played like dog food and ended up uh
ended up down by thirteen and they never got back
in the game. But Lebron check this out. Now, this
is not including the game on Thursday night, So this
(27:49):
is only Lebron through the first part of the bubble
and the first game against the Blazers. Lebron has become
Ben Simmons. Lebron James has become Ben Simmons. Here's my evidence. Okay, alright, Lebron.
Outside the restricted area, you know what the restricted area
guests going. You're a basketball guy, do you know what
restricted areas? Tell the guy in Fargo what a restricted
(28:13):
areas because he might not know the restricted areas. The
paint and yes, the lane right near the basket. Right,
Lebron outside of the restricted area, outside the paint is
shooting twenty eight percent. Inside the bubble, he's a less
than thirty. That's Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons is fine if
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he's in the paint. If he's outside the paint, forget
about it. Forget about it. Well, you know what it
could be. It's great. You know what that is. That's
solid NBA information. That's what Tony Bruner would say back
in the day. Now I think he said knowledge. He
would say knowledge. I think I think there's a good
explanation for the lack of shooting efficiency that Lebron's sustaining
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or last you know, to three weeks. It's because there's
no fans in attendance. There's no there's no there's no
there's no juice. There's no juice in the building. Obviously. Now,
do you feel embarrassed by the fact that the Clippers
lost game to to No, no, no, no, there's inferior team.
(29:21):
That's what the media, the mainstream media, your colleagues, were
looking for a sweep or a five game series between
the Clippers and the Mavericks. This I'm not I'm not
concerned because it'll just make it that much more enjoyable
when they finally win. Like you have the best players
in the NBA, and they were nullified, like they were
nullified on the fourth, but it wasn't really. Patrick Beverley
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did not play. And he's really he's the glue guy.
Patrick Beverley learned his name, learned his name son, Patrick Guy.
Never Junkyard Dog, the guy guys that Junkyard Dog. He's
the heart and soul. He's the motivational guy out on
the court. Now he's junk of it. That you got
that right, that's you know, you got the guys and
everyone loves he's old school Patrick Beverley. He's the instigator.
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And those those punk guys on the Maverick, those thugs
like Porzingis on the Mavericks got who got reacted, and
they reacted to the to the instigator, the Patrick Beverley
and some of those other guys there. Beverly sparks the fuse.
That's what Pat Patrick Beverley does. I love those pesky guys.
Every championship team has to have some agitator on it,
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and Patrick Beverley is one of those guys. Clippers have
a lot of them. Fortunately, Uh, these these guys that
work as lighter fluid, and I like. I like those
kind of guys on my team. I like. I don't
like him on the other team, but I like him
on my team. I think they got pushed around in
Game two. Did get pushed around all they weren't interested.
I didn't take the Mavericks seriously. And if you don't
take an opponent seriously, you gotta compete. You gotta play
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with energy the team. Remember the great Bill Fitch, Bill Fitch,
Hall of Fame coach. When I was covering the Clippers
and those morbid days, and Coach Fitch whould coach Larry
Bird and Elijah Want all these greats in his NBA
career with the Celtics and the Rockets, and they had
to coach dog teams like the Clippers and the Nets
at the end. They were terrible in those days. But um,
(31:10):
but Bill Fitch, he he used to talk about the
fact that to win in the NBA, and this is
years ago before all these gayzy statistics and all that,
he said, you win the hustle stats in basketball, but
just play with more energy. And if you play with
more energy, you're gonna win the hustle stats and and
hustle stats. If you're not familiar, if you don't know
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what that means, that is essentially, um, you know, drawing charges,
deflecting loose balls, getting rebounds, setting screens, getting the fifty
fifty balls, all that kind of stuff, all that that stuff.
In fact, the Clippers were so bad they never actually
won the games in those days very often, so they
put a hustle board up in the arena. It was
(31:52):
the most cheeseball thing at the sports arena. But I
remember they put a hustle board up because Fitches, like
his mindset was, we're probably gonna win the game, but
if we hustle, we'll have a chance and uh, and
so maybe we'll win the hustle board. Yeah, it's painful.
It was. It was, but it is true if you
watch an NBA game, even if you know nothing about
the teams that are playing, the team that is deflecting
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passes and Phil Jackson and Kobe Bryant say hands on
balls right, hands on balls right. That is the key blocks, steals, rebounds,
uh and all that contested shots, charges drawn. That's the
kind of stuff that frustrates frustrates the opponent, and you're
tipping passes away that bothers them, that cuts under their skin.
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And and when you're on defense and you're able to
do that, and that sets the tone. You fight through
screens and all that stuff, all those little things. Yeah,
and that reminds me of the early two thousand Lakers.
I mean, you have like Derek Fisher, and Ron Harper
and Glenn Rice, and Rick Fox and Ori and Kobe
and Shack. Like I could see that this is this
equates to why they were so successful. You know, I
(32:58):
can only hope that Clippers can be reminded of something like, Yeah,
little Clipper hater, you were. You know, why don't you
clean up your own house? The Lakers went out and
puked all over in Game one. Now this is a series,
and we don't know what happened in Game two as
we're doing this, but I promise you the Trail Blazers
are not intimidated by the La La Lakers. I didn't
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have them getting out of the second round. To be
frank with you, I have Houston the Clippers in the
Western Conference finals. Players is showing some basketball knowledge, all right,
So let's get to the roaring twenties, if you will
here so as a Fox Sports Radio celebrating this week
it's twenty anniversary, twenty years of continuous network sports radio
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broadcasting doing God's work here behind the microphones of Fox
Sports Radio. Now. I have been asked guestcount by several
Brigadier generals about the early days of Fox Sports Radio,
and I'm one of the few that experienced that in
the first first part of the run of Fox Sports Radio.
And I've been fortunate to be you with the company
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for most of the time except for six months and
twenty six days. Not that we're counting, No, I didn't.
I didn't count. I just just just random. Um. I
could have said seven months, but it wouldn't be correct.
Six months and twenty six days is not seven months.
It's six months in twenty six days. It's not six
months because it's twenty six days. More than six months
is closer to seven months. So it's twenty it's six
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months and twenty six days. So anyway, I I I
will give you what I remember. Gonna give a brief
for a synopsis of what I remember. Alright, So when
the network launched, now, the network started, I was hired
about a month after the network originally launched. And this
when it When Fox Sports Radio launched, it was a
big ESPN Radio was like the only real game in town,
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I think was it One on one sports and Sporting
News Radio were around still in those days, I believe,
but they were secondary operations. It was ESPN Radio at
the time was the eight hundred pound guerrilla in this
worts radio game. And so this was a originally and
it still is a conglomeration between Fox Sports Television and
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at the time it was Clear Channel, which has become
I Heart Media. That's how long ago this was. And
and so obviously I was a low man on the
totem pole. But I remember meeting with Tom Lee, who
was the programming man behind Fox Sports Radio when it launched,
and and e Z and all these people, and they
were filling out the lineup card much like a bingo card.
And they had no weekend programming past like six o'clock.
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I don't even think they had weekend programming for part
of the day part on the weekend. They only had
shows during the week and they didn't have a full lineup,
and so that worked to my advantage. They hired me
originally at Fox Sports Radio. I was hired as a
utility guy. I was an update guy. I would do
weekend fill in hosting and uh, you know, plug and
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play guy, plug and player. I play me anywhere I
can play. I got a million glaw was and and
all that. So that's what they hired me for originally,
and in fact it was it was so early on
the studios that are now twenty almost twenty years old.
We didn't have they weren't completed. They were still doing construction.
I remember when i'd go down to take a tour
and I had to wear a hard hat because they
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were still doing construction because it used to be at
Denny's and they were putting the thing together when it launched,
and we were broadcasting from the Michael Reagan studios, the
adopted son a president, Ronald Reagan, and he had a
syndicated show at the Premiere then Premiere Radio Networks, and
so I remember that. I also remember my first shift,
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my first update shift. The person that showed me the
ropes at Fox Sports Radio was a just an update
guy that occasionally worked on the morning show named Andrew Siciliano,
who has gone on and done some big things for
himself at the NFL Network and Direct TV and all that.
But Siciliano was the guy that showed me the ropes
and how to do the updates and work the equipment
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and all that stuff. So so I remember that, and uh,
and then you know, I randomly remember some of the
early shows. UM. The first person I did a talk
show with it Fox was Jason I. We we did
a weekend show together, myself and Jason Smith. We had
a weekend show we did together, and I remember that.
And also I remember like one of my early update
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shifts UM was in like January of oh one, so
it was a couple of months after I had started,
but it was a Saturday, and I remember it. It
was sometime in January of twenty one. But the the
plane carrying the Oklahoma State basketball team, one of the
planes and with a couple of like players and a
broadcaster crashed and they all died. And all I remember
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having to I was like, I was going, I don't
want any breaking news to happen, you know, I was
have smooth shift, And I remember the U having to
report on that. How that's like then obviously been working
on nine eleven was another one, the Boston Marathon bombings,
and a couple of years ago. I used to have have
been more than a couple of years now, So I
have been random things that you were on the radio
for that you remember. But it's been it's been interesting,
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and uh it's been it's been fun. A lot of
people that Gascon does not respect that worked here, like
Tony Bruno, Bruce Jacobs, Mike North. We have had North
on the podcast. Bruno, We gotta get Bruce Jacobs on
the podcast. You know who need to get on is
Craig Kitchen. Yeah, that was you get him on. We
get Craig on, Yeah, Mark Patrick. Craig Kitchen was the
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executive at Premier Networks who ran the joint and is
a big powerful radio executive, which I think is why
you want him on. I believe that's why you wanted
I met him once. Um, I actually met him once,
and I think I asked I met him several times
at parties. Well, yeah, I've never met him like in
that setting, but I met him here once and I
think I either asked you or Tom Looney about him,
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and uh, one of you were speaking glowingly about it. Oh,
he's great. Craig Kitchen is wonderful. Yeah, I don't know
how even most I say most, but a lot of
these radio executives, like higher really higher up corporate muckety monks,
just they don't get the business. Like Craig got it.
He got it. He was relatable to talent. He looked
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out for the people that are on this side of
the microphone. A lot of the people that are in
management only care about the people that are in the
sales department. I don't really care about the people on
the air that much. But yeah, Craig was wonderful. And
the one guy I wish I could have met and
obviously is not around, is the one that you speak
about highly is was Andy Andy Ashwood Andrew Ashore wish Yeah,
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Andrew Ashwood, who was legend in San Antonio radio. And yeah,
he was great. I was upset I every once so
while I go back, and there was a memorial that
they put on somebody put on YouTube from his when
he passed and it showed his career and he was
a d J I think in Phoenix or Milwaukee. I
(39:52):
think it was Phoenix though, and his on air name,
Andrew Ashwood was b J. Hunter. Was his on their name,
and uh, it was just funny, you know, obviously as
different times. Now, of course, oh you know, I'm offended
by that. We can't have that. But back in those days,
in the wild days of radio in the seventies or
the early eighties, you could do that. And he ended
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up becoming a radio executive. And uh, and you know
there's another guy. He started on this side of the
microphone and then crossed over. So you're like, you have
a different perspective than if you don't have that that experience.
There are some that you know, So there's some people
I've worked for that didn't get on the air that
still get it, but they're far a few between. Now.
I was reading I was reading something, um a few
(40:36):
days congratulations, you were reading something this is a big
accomplish a few days ago, and uh, I was. I
was shocked at the individual that said this. But this individual,
talking about the network and Fox Sports Radio said I'm
a big believer that a chain is only as strong
as its weakest link. It's a team effort at Fox
Sports Radio, from management on air, behind the scenes, support staff,
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all the above, and it goes that is an absolutely
profound statement a great statement. What a fucking liar you are.
What a fucking you're talking about it. That's an accurate call.
You're saying that was that was taken out of context.
Is that what you're saying? Yeah, I think you. I
think I was looking out for the little guy. If
not my theory, but people I work with it, they
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work hard and they have desire and ambition. I'm a
big ambition guy. I believe an ambition. Now, show up
Coughlin standard time, right when you coach the giants, you know,
show up early, work hard, take pride in your work right,
have a little fire in your belly all that. Uh.
It's like the old quote from the Sports of Story
(41:42):
and who we had on Fox Sports ready years ago
he passed away I think a year ago, Harvey former
fromer Rather. He said, you've got to outwork the horse,
and if you do that, I will defend you. I
will have your back no matter what. You have that determined. Now,
unfortunately there's a lot of people who don't have that,
and uh, for that I just attacked. But but the
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rest of the people that many of them do the
hard work. I like the people that are maniacal, that
want to be great, want to improve. I'm all about that.
I'm still waiting for you to get my back. Um, Well,
when you started showing perseverance, when you starting that right,
when you start having a little moxie and all that,
and then then I'll do it. I got plenty of moxie,
I got crisp, I got grit, and I showed the
(42:27):
verse all. Now you say those words, but you don't
know what those sweat equity, sweat equity, no days out.
I walked the other day it was a hundred and
fourteen degrees coundred and fourteen degrees where I live out
of the desert here. And you you, of course you
were those real photoshopped or whatever. It's fake and all that.
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But I was trying to teach you a lesson on
what you fail the lessons I was teaching the lesson
about grit. I was teaching lesson about toughness, backbone, fortitude,
all of that having having resolved, and you just spat
in my face. You've failed the test. Guess you've You've
only taught me a few things. You've taught me. One
(43:14):
never used the company phone, Um to never let a
falling star fall on you. That is right. That's a
great line. Thank you for that. Three, um never trust
anybody and uh and four do not fall under the
wrath of Ben Malley. Otherwise you'll turn out to be
like like Jake Warner or Bob gillra what's wrong with
(43:36):
Jake Warner Bob Garrett? Those are fine people. Both have
done great things. Take Warner, you've got the lead engineer
for the Los Angeles Clippers and the l A. King's
a great job. He's gone on to bigger and better things.
Bob Garrets on a day part during the day, which
is more important. Nobody cares about overnight or night radio,
but Bob Garret works on a day part that's important.
TV guys. He's working with, not some lowly radio overnight guy.
(43:59):
When did we need to have the Mallard tree blossom
a little bit? The Mallard tree is great. Many of
these people have gone on and done wonderful things. I
don't know what you're talking about, but try to try
to get a little resiliency in your game. Plenty. I
tried a little bit, a little bit, a little bounce
back ability we like to call it. There. It's like
my man Victor Break used to say back in the day,
(44:20):
the bamboo that bends is stronger than the oak that resists.
Oh boy, it's Japanese haiku from Vic the Brick. It's true.
Be like the bamboo, bend like the bamboo. And I'm
I'm like a prize fighter. I got a tough chin.
They call me guest on Bamboo Benny. That's what they
call me, Bamboo Benny. You're fucking embarrassing right now. I
(44:42):
don't think twenty years that's a long time to be
out of network. That's h that is. I am stunned.
I can't believe it. I don't know. I you know what,
it's it's great. Somebody was asking me about that too,
and I was like, I don't know. I never even thought.
I was like, I just believe in that cliche day
by day and all that in by inch, which is
your philosophy. But yeah, just you know, one step at
(45:05):
a time, keep your head down. Yeah, apparently it works.
I remember this network from when I was when I
was a teenager because I was stopped. I was a
big friend of job Jim Rome stop. Because Jim Rome
would have his his show. It would be played on
repeat in San Diego, so whenever I drive down with
my family had listened to Rome in the morning time,
and then when we drove back from San Diego it
(45:27):
was on in the afternoon time. So well, Rome would
in the early days, Rome was on the network, but
wouldn't say Fox Sports Radio. Why um, because he had
he was on ESPN affiliates and things like that, and
so there was a conflict. So even though Fox Sports
Radio carried the Jim Rome Show, he would say Premier Networks.
So he never I don't he ever said Fox Sports Rade.
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Here's another fun fact. This is the twentieth anniversary. Fox
Sports Radio had a deal with w f A n
SO for weekend programming with Mike and the mad Dog
doing shows, not together. But one day Russo would do
a show and the other day Francessa would do a show.
And as I remember, and maybe I'm wrong on this,
those guys Russo showed up to do the show several times,
(46:14):
but Francessa almost never did. It was always like, you know,
Jody McDonald or somebody was filling in for him, and
uh yeah, so he he didn't really do that very often. Uh,
we've we've wasted most of our a lot of time.
Now we have a decision make. We could do pop
quiz here briefly and do some of those have a
lot of those questions. We could save that for the
(46:34):
next podcast. So it's really your discretion here, guests. That's
beautiful turning it over to the pilot. I haven't I
haven't talked to I'm a pilot in a long time.
Where has he been on on the social media? That
reminds men, I've not talked to a few people. I
don't know what happened to him. I don't he vanish?
Has he gone? And maybe he finally realize you're a
fraud and he distanced yourself, distanced himself from you because
(46:55):
you're bad news. I don't know about that. Hopefully he's
flying across the country or across the world. Even was
flying all over the place sending us photos of random
city braggadocious about how look at look who where I am?
Look at where I am right in a long time?
But anyways, I digress. Uh, yeah, let's turn it over
to tomorrow. Let's go to Sundar, right, so we do. Man,
(47:15):
That means tomorrow is gonna be jam packers. We've got
the pop quiz. We got study. Uh, this will do
some of that. The b or Not to Be mail bag.
That's a lot of content. We'll just have to get
right into that tomorrow. Yes, that's fine. They're dicking around
by you. I don't mean you spent I didn't not
plan on talking about the bingo, but we that I
didn't bring it up. We actually started talking about sports,
(47:38):
so I know we did a sporty this is a
sporty podcast. We did some XS and os NBA type
of broadcasting. You know someone's gonna picture about that, right, Well,
you're talking about sports, talk about the politics. What's wrong
with you? Yes? All right? Uh, anyway, listen, I have
a great rest of your day. Remember cameo dot com.
(47:59):
Check that out. Type my name in Ben Maller. Also
all the social media and if you want to send
questions for the mail bag, obviously this week's out, but
next week go to our Facebook page. Wednesday, typically in
the morning, I will post on Facebook requesting questions. And
you can also email the show if you want to
do it that way and contact us the email address
(48:19):
Real fifth Hour at gmail dot com or Ben Maller
Show at gmail dot com. Either one of those will work.
But just make sure you have a question in the headline.
To have a great day today. Appreciate it. We will
catch you tomorrow. Tomorrow
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