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March 22, 2025 • 32 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:23):
with Ben Mahller starts right now.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
In the air everywhere.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
The Fifth Hour with Me, Ben Maller and Danny g
Radio A Happy Saturday to you.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's the twenty second day of March.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
We're hanging out here early on a Saturday morning, and
normally we start out with some dope holiday and kind
of start yapping about that, but I think we should
start with the loss of a legend an icon, Danny.
We learned last night that George Foreman has gone by

(01:00):
behind the Pearly Gates, one of the great boxing stories
from back when we were younger, and a lot of
people it reminds me of she was like seventy six,
but it reminds me of the John Madden thing, where
there's people that thought John Madden was just a video game.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
There's people that think George Foreman.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Was just like a grill that you get at Target,
Balmart or something like that. But he was a big
time boxer for many, many years back in the day.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Not only was he a legendary boxer, but you're right,
his business acumen was on point. He got a grill,
and as the story goes, hul Cogan, what did he get,
like a blender or something like that that sucked.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah, the famous story Hulk Hogan. They supposedly contacted hul Cogan. First,
there's a couple of different versions of the story. One
of them was they called hull Cogan, he didn't answer
his phone because he was picking up his kids or
something like that. And then there's another version where they said,
all right, you can either do the grill or you
can do like a meatball maker, and he he chose

(02:01):
the meatball maker, the whole Comania meatball maker which never which.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Never made it.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
And then they called George Foreman up, and Foreman's like, yeah,
but Foreman had done a lot of commercials, like he
was a as you mentioned, he was a big time
sales guy.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
He was in a lot of different crap back.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah, he was a great hitch Man.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, he did a lot of like McDonald's, and he
used to point at the camera. Yeah, he had that
infectious smile too. And did he name all his kids
George and what.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
He sure did? Yeah, George one through fourteen.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah he had. He had a lot of kids.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
I'm not sure how many, but yeah, they were all numbered.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
There were a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
No it was I don't think it was fourteen. But
he definitely enjoyed himself. And then he ended up making
because of that George Foreman grill. He ended up making
hundreds of millions of dollars. I think I remember the
story in the late nineties he wrote over the use
of his name, and at the time, I think it

(02:57):
was like one hundred and thirty something million dollars that
George Foreman got.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
In fact, you do a little type here this sake.
No no no, no, no, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
I actually somewhere in the garage, I have a deluxe
George Foreman grill.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Oh not just the basic bitch.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
You've you've gone above and beyond, all right, so it
says here, Yeah, Foreman got one hundred and thirty seven
million dollars in nineteen ninety nine, he got. So let's
do some malar math on that. Let's see, so I'll
basically hold on sic. So if inflation since nineteen ninety nine, uh,

(03:40):
it's gone up ninety one percent essentially, so uh it
was one hundred and thirty seven it's like or two
point six million in today's dollars.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
He got.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Now, is that is that Foreman grill you have still
in the box, Danny? Or is that is that game used?

Speaker 5 (03:58):
It's still in the box, but it's light used. When
I lived alone, I made a lot of turkey burgers
with it.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Okay, that was your go to back in the day.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
I burned out the original and I remember finding that
bigger George Foreman grill the top like pivots pivot Hey,
those were great because remember they drained the grease out
into the grease catcher.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah. And the guy that actually invented him. I was
reading a story about it.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Last night when we found out that George Foreman had died.
And the guy that actually came up with it was
this guy named Michael Baum.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
I believe was his name A b O.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
E Hm, I'm not trying to pronounce that, but he
was the creator of it and he was just like
a gadget guy. But he didn't get any kind of
money out of it compared to what George Foreman got
out of it. But he this guy would just futs
around with like lawnmowers and snowmobiles and all that stuff,
and he's the guy that actually created the product, and
then George.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Foreman ended up taking it to the new level.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
The other thing that I learned about that Danny, which
is great, is this is a testimonial now that we've
lost George Foreman. Though it's a testimonial to the power
of the infomercial because according to what I was reading,
the Foreman Grill when it came out was not really selling.
It wasn't all that popular when they first debuted back

(05:18):
in the day. And what had happened was Foreman popped
up on QVC.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
I think that's still around. It was a.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
Shopping QVC still there. You could make like five payments
for an item.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, exactly, So early on people were on buying the
Foreman Grill. And then Foreman made his first appearance on
television on the Shopping that We're QBC and just did
the pitch and all that, and he's.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
So perfect for that with his smile, and all the
old ladies watching around the country.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
They say the aha moment was they actually used the
grill on the TV show and the hosts were mosing
with each other and then Foreman just grabbed. At one
point he picked up the burger and ate it. I
rotate nuts right out. Yeah, as it was, We've been
made and that apparently lit up the phone lines and
people could not get enough of them ever since then.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
So there's actually an indoor outdoor electric grill by Foreman.
Oh yeah, there's there's all nonstick grill griddle and it's
on a stand.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Oh is that right? Okay, that's like the next generation.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
That's a next yeah exactly. Yeah, that's cool though. I
want one of those from my patio.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Now.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
You remember the original name was the Lean Mean Fat
Reducing Grilling Machine.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
Uh yeah, it was came in that white box I remember.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, the George Foreman Lean Mean, Lean Mean Fat Reduced
seeing Grilling Machine, and they just shortened it to the
George Foreman Grill. It's estimated not here, it's dead. He
made over five hundred million dollars off that grill. Oh
my gosh, five hundred million and hal Cogan maybe sold
like seven meatball makers, but does you know, maybe a
blender or something.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
But five hundred million off that grill? God, how about that? Wow?

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Wow? That crazy? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
And you know, George, I don't know what did him
in George at age seventy six. But how about the
fact Don King is still kicking at ninety three and
we lost George here at seventy six. But Don King
still out there doing his thing and these as far
as I know, he's in decent. Hell, he lived in
Florida and all that. But yeah, George Foreman, rest in peace.

(07:32):
One of the great characters back when boxing matted right.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Just was a big deal.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
And he was in some massive five We're mostly talking
about the Grill because you know, it's the grill, but
there were some amazing moments there. And he fought Joe
Frazier in the Fight of the Century in nineteen seventy one,
and it was also he was the guy who fought

(07:57):
Muhammad Ali.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
And you know, a.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Bunch of these guys back in the day, so two
of the most iconic boxing events of all time. Joe
Frazier in the Fight of the Century and then Muhammad
Ali in the Rumble in the Jungle. Has there been
a better name for a fight than the Rumble in
the Jungle? That has got to be top top five,
top three, top two all time boxing.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Yeah, And this was years before Tom Brady and some
older players, other older players who were still starring on
the field. I remember my grandmother pointing at him out
all the time, saying, see, just because you're old, doesn't
mean your life's over. He was kind of known as
the old guy that could still do it.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah. I remember when he came back.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
I was just starting my bloviating career and people were like, oh,
he mean, he's been out of boxing for too long
form and he's not gonna be able to come back.
He sat out like ten years and then came back
and became the heavyweight championship. A toss up question. Toss
up question, Danny g better fight name the Rumble in
the or the Thrilla in Manila, But that those gotta

(09:03):
be the top two, right, have to be the top.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Ah Thrilla in Manila. Just I could see the poster
in my mind.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
I know.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
But Rumble in the Jungle, you know, it's like the
Jim Rome Show from nineteen ninety.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
That one sounds racist.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Racist.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Back then, you could get away with that.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Back when was that nineteen seventy four or whatever that
fight was back in the day.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
Man rip Man definitely a huge, huge legend there.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I did chat with mister Foreman a few times my
back in my younger days when I'd go to Vegas
for fights or whatever, back when boxing was still big,
and they'd fly everyone in and it was like a
big spectacle and they'd bring it back all the boxing
legend would be a wandering around and all that, and
so I do. I did run into Forman a few
times back in the day, and very nice man. Not

(09:51):
quite the same impact on me as Don King, though,
And I've told the Don King story many times. The
boxing promoter, well I remember that story. Yeah, he just
butted my biscuits.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Man.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
I thought I was the greatest thing in the world
and he just couldn't say enough things about me. And
then he walked over to the next booth and said
the same exact thing about the other gas. So it's like, okay,
on this fifth hour podcast we have well, we just
did the whole tribute to the grill Master, George Former.
We got the Merry Go Round, the Catered Affair, pulls

(10:22):
cats and kittens, and we'll see what else we have
time for, but we'll start with the Merry Go Round.
And did not have the live radio show overnight into
Saturday morning here because it's a day of rest other
than this podcast, So we missed out. I missed out
on a great, great Merry Go Round, just a wonderful
merry go round of quarterbacks, just wonderful and quarter and

(10:46):
then nothing really happened other than Jameis Winston going to
the Giants. And I'm a big Jameis Winston fan. Do
I think Jameis Winston's good?

Speaker 6 (10:55):
No?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Do I like Jameis Winston.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, he's thirty one, he's He's what I've said you
want to have. If you're a team like the Giants,
you want at least fun bad. You don't want bad bad,
you want fun bad. He's f b He's fun bad.
Jameis won.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
He doesn't want a guy that's going to tease you
all the way to the start of the fourth quarter
before he throws two back breaking interceptions.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, he'll throw his two pick sixes at some moment
and break your heart, but they'll be games. Jameis Wins
is a one man band. He'll have some games where
he throws five touchdown passes. He'll have some games where
he throws five interceptions.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Now, it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Guarantee just because he's signed with the Giants obviously does
not guarantee that they're not gonna go out. And that's
some other other quarterback. And the big story from yesterday
was Aaron Rogers actually visiting western Pennsylvania, breaking the silence.
Rogers leaving the beaches of Malibu to go hang out

(11:51):
at the confluence there in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
Yeah, supposedly he had thumbed his nose at Pittsburgh, but
then the Vikings told him not interesting, and suddenly he's
on a plane over to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yeah, so he met with some of the big shots
in Pittsburgh. The I read it was a six hour situation.
What do they talk about for six hours? They have
lunch for that lunch is about thirty five mine?

Speaker 5 (12:15):
Right, when you did like a radio interview in your
early years, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Well could that go one hour? Two hours at the most?

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Normally what would happen is you'd meet with the program director,
they'd walk you around the station, to show you the station,
and then you'd meet with them for whatever and that
was it. Or maybe you'd go to lunch with them
and then you wouldn't even see the station and that's that,
you know. Ben I had one program director. He brought
me to his house after the lunch because he had
to pick something up. And then he was like in

(12:45):
there forever and he came back out at his front
door and he said, come on in for a little bit.
His wife was in there, and maybe early twenties, he
was a young program director.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
They were in there smoking weed.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Smoke weedy day, just chilling man, just having a good time.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
And I was like, man, this, uh, this interview is
going to go.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Long app after he is done. But yeah, there was a.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
That would have been Kooper Op's dream job.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
God, he'd be like the assistant PD if he worked there.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
But I remember the Uh.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
There was one station I worked at my early days
before Fox Sports Radio, and in the afternoon, the program
director interviewed a guy who was on television in LA
for a job while the host was on the air
down the hall, like interviewed his replacement to take his

(13:40):
job while he was in the building.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
That was very ouch.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
He would have gotten away with it, but somebody spotted
the guy who he was interviewing and put you know,
two and two together and realized what are we doing here?
So yeah, Rogers, I mean that would have been a
great monologue.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
I mean, we'll see. He hasn't signed yet, so we'll
see if he's signs.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
You got to think he wants to play that it
makes a lot of sense. Played season number twenty one
in Pittsburgh and they say that.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah deal.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
I was going to say, just to back up to
the Giants. You're right, they're going to draft a young quarterback.
So whether or not that young quarterback is ready to
play or not, Jamis is a really good commodity to
have as your backup.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
If that's how it's going to roll.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, I like Jamis will be great and the New
York media will embrace him and he'll be wonderful for
the tabloids.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
And oh yeah, you saw him at the super Bowl
with that microphone.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
And another win for Sequon Barkley.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Remember Barkley at the Super Bowl at that opening night,
which used to be Media Day before it was bastardized
by the NFL. They Barkley asked or James Winston asked
Barkley where he should go, and Barkley said, yeah, or
so he was a Southsayer even before winning the Super Bowl.
And I you mentioned the Viking's not interested in Aaron Rodgers.

(15:01):
Did you see they had discussions with Ryan Tannehill. I
thought he was tired. I didn't even realize.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Oh, I thought that that was an old post from
Jordan Schultz from three years ago.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, what is that, Ryan Tannehill? I mean, you go
down to the cemetery and dig his ass up. My god,
Ryan tanne are you kidding me? Ryan Tannehill is the guy.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
What are you doing? I mean, it's very bizarre.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
It's like, well, George, the Vikings are like, well, JJ
McCarthy's a guy.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
But then yeah, well that's why they don't want an
enigma like Rogers sucking all the air out of that
stadium there in Minnesota. They'd rather have, like, you know,
somebody steady and maybe reliable. That's not Santa Hill, but
somebody just like a steady Joe Flacco type backup for
a young McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Hey, well, Joe Flacco's available if you want.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
And there was a rumor one of our listeners in
Minnesota emailed me a story from some Viking website fan
website I've never heard of that claimed, oh the Chargers justin.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Herbert Supply the deal was done according to two sources.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, I don't know about that one. Methinks probably not.
Methinks unlikely.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
The deal was if.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
As somebody who like anonymously emailed into that Vikings show.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Oh well, those are always good clickbait. Hey, you know,
every once in a while, they're right, right, every once
in a while, the right. There was a guy the
other day this week who was on a flight to
Boston and said, Hey, Stefan Diggs is on my flight.
He's going to New England to meet with the Patriots.
And the Internet was like, oh, yeah, you're full of crap,
what a loser, you're trying to get cloud. And then

(16:45):
like two hours later it was yeah, Stefan Diggs is
going to meet with the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
You know. So I really do get that.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Stuff right every now and again, but I would be
be surprised. However, we know Jim Harbaugh, a Michigan man,
loved loved him some JJ McCarthy, and it's not outrageous
to think that the Harbor after spending a year coaching
Justin Herbert might think this guy is like more of
a surfer than a quarterback, and that maybe I should

(17:13):
go get my guy who I know and J J.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
McCarthy.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
It would be fun. Do I think it's going to happen. No,
but it's fun to think about. Those kinds of things
are kind of cool to toss about. But turning the
page on that, I didn't want to mention. You know,
this is the Saturday Pod Life of Malar, Life of
Danny g. So we had a small shindig last weekend,
small shindig family, family, no friends, just family and a

(17:38):
good little get together at Malor Mansion. Good to see
people hadn't seen in some times. Some people hadn't seen
in many many months. And uh and it was a
catered affair and what catering company did? We use craft
services the same as the movie studio, though we use
the Malar craft services. The menu cheese, steak, and the

(17:59):
I was a lie cook. I was a line cook
that it made the food for a lot of people,
and I had my I was enjoying it because I
didn't have to socialize because I was on the griddle
so I just worked the griddle and uh, and the
people did come out try to talk to me. I
think they wanted bigger portions of food. That's why they
came out to talk to me.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
And what are you? What are you making? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (18:21):
But that I felt a little bit like this guy
named blind Willy. Remember blind Willie called from Florida.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
Oh, I do remember Brian blind Willy. He used to
call Klay Travis's show too.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah. I don't know what happened to blind Willy.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
But I want to say, unfortunately, he's probably not with us.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
You think blind Willy's checked out whom.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
Yeah, he was older back when he used to call.
That was right before COVID, So yeah, I don't know
what happened.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
But he I think he worked at like an Applebee's
or something like that.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
It was some restaurant and he was We always thought
it was funny because he's a cook and he couldn't see,
you know, he was liked he was legally blind, and
he he would make food for people. But I felt
like blind Willy. It was a busy, busy night, mission accomplished.
Everyone seemed to eat, drink and be merry. So we
did that.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
I picture you looking like that cook on You can't
say that on television.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, it's it's a little dice. The thing.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
The thing about this Danny that I've noticed is that
my wife thinks it's like we're at a steakhouse and
everyone's gonna eat at the same time, and I'm like,
I gotta you know, I.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Gotta put everything together.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
You know, I got a whole there's a whole routine,
and I try to get the food out as quick
as I can't.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
But I'm not I'm one person, you know, So everyone's
gonna eat at the same time, you know that whole reule.
I'm like, well, no eat when the food comes out,
they can eat.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
In reality, You're right, people eat at all different times.
So there needs to be a tip jar in front
of you.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yeah, or hire another chef or something like that, and
you can work with magic there.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
My goodness. So that was part of the weekend. Last weekend, just.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Kind of hanging out and had a had a fine
time chilling. And of course the last couple of days
is watching a lot of the college basketball and I'm trying.
I'm trying to focus, Danny. I am, I mean, these
are some tough watches. These are just a lot of
tough games. You know, a couple of g.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Oh yeah, forty point blowouts are no fun.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
They do generally make for a better tournament down the line.
They make for a better tournament down the line, but
it's painful. It's a lot of mislayups, a lot of
missed wide open shots and.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Well, you know that mcnee's game a few days back, Yeah,
that wound up being a lot of fun because they
had to hold on and just watching the team celebrate
and the coach jumping up and down on the court.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
I mean you see some of these games, like the
coaches come out and they're just like, oh man, we're terrible.
You know, I do I do enjoy And I said
this the other day when I was filling in on
the locally in LA. I enjoy Mick Cronin like I
I don't know that we appreciate the UCLA coach because
he's it's kind of a straight shooter as much as
you can be. Like and they early on they were

(21:05):
get UCLA on Thursday was getting smoked by a Utah
State or they were it was just no, they weren't
playing very well.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
And Mick Cronin.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
You know, somebody had kicked his kitten or something like that,
and then and they.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Had one of my thirty points.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Anyway, so I'm worried Cronin's gonna leave. I think I
think he's gonna go somewhere else, But who knows. Then
we'll see what happens this weekend and later today. Right,
we've got Rick Patino and John Calipari. That'll be a
game to circle right college basketball today And I watched that.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
That'll be a that'll be a fun one.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
And maybe you can go hang out with some cats
and some kittens and just kind of hang out and
watch the game.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
What do you say?

Speaker 5 (21:42):
Yeah, you remember that catchphrase? Hey are you cool? Cats
and kittens?

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Oh yeah, oh yeah?

Speaker 5 (21:50):
Five years ago? What was the anniversary on Thursday?

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (21:56):
What was the five year anniversary? Uh?

Speaker 1 (22:01):
I have no idea.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
That was Carol Baskin. We all got to look into
her feud with Joe Exotic, oh Man Figer King, Yes.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Hey are you cool? At Katthain Kittens?

Speaker 4 (22:13):
And the week.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
Prior on March eleventh, five year anniversary of Rudy Gobert
starting COVID, rubbing all the mics.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Oh yeah, patient zero, right, patient zero, and.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
Yeah, yeah, and you remember Tom Hanks had it and
that's when everybody was like, oh my god, and the
world shut down. We thought it was going to be
two weeks, you know, for the curve and all that,
and so we got into the same discussion.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Can you believe it's been five years?

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah, it's pretty pretty wild man. We're just in a
hot tub time machine. We are zooming and Joe was
it Joe exotic?

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Isn't he in jail still? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (22:53):
Carol Baskin I think sold the property that she was on.
She was an interesting lady. I remember I booked her
on Clay Travis's I.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Remember you trying to track her down. I do remember.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
Yeah, she was hard to track down. She wasn't as
hard to track down as I thought. What was really
hard was convincing her to go on the air because
a lot of people burned her in the media because
everybody assumed that she was a murderer.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Remember, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
Yeah, a lot of people thought and assumed she murdered
her ex husband because that's the way she was portrayed.
And so she didn't want to get blindsided by media
so I had to exchange email after email with this
lady for weeks, sent her pictures of my cat true story,
and got to talking with her about pets and everything.

(23:42):
She finally felt comfortable enough with me to go on
the air. It was awesome and of course the first
question Klay Travis asked her was, so, did you kill
your ex husband?

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Did he did it?

Speaker 5 (23:56):
He alluded to the media problems that she had, but
he didn't come out and say it, Thank goodness.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
I thought she would have hung up. For sure.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Who was who was more impressive to talk to him
that time? Her?

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Or Donald Trump? President Trump?

Speaker 5 (24:10):
Definitely Trump on his cell phone. Yeah, that is on
his personal cell phone.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
I still I'll run into people and in conversation, you know,
Trump's name will come up, and I'll be do you
know he he's the president and he calls on.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
His own phone.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
He calls on his own I still like, I remember
when we were kids, and it was like Ronald Reagan
would call the Washington Redskins to congratulate, remember the team
that won the Super Bowl?

Speaker 5 (24:36):
Oh yeah, for sure, I remember. I remember him talking
to Al Davis.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Remember, yes, yes, but you remember how it would work.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
It would be the White House called stand by for
the President of the United States, you know, some some
dues from the White ye.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
It was like the official secretary of the White House.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, and then you got President Trump. All right, let's
go to Don online three from d C. Don you
just it was like texting.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
Me and calling me off his cell phone. It was amazing.
I'm still mind blown by that. It's such a weird time, man,
when you think back to all that and us having
those FEMA passes, the producers and driving in every day
when nobody, absolutely nobody was on the road, to the
point where I got pulled over, not once, not twice,

(25:21):
three times during all that and had to show them
my THEMA car. Twice in Burbank. Once in Sherman Oaks,
I was pulled over because I was literally the only
car driving on the road at four am. Now, I
know that's early, but you know, with normal business, there's
still quite a few cars on the road at that
time in southern California.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah, no, there are.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
And I remember we started doing the shows from home
around that time, but I would go in early.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
On the first couple of.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Weeks we were going in and everything was shut down
because it was that two weeks, you know, stop the
thing and you'll be back. And I remember driving was
it flatten the curve? Flatten the curve? Yeah, yeah, I
remember that was the thing. But I remember driving on
the highway on the you know I five near Dodger Stadium,
and I thought I was in the twilight zone. I'm
in the second largest city in America and You're the only.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Car on the road. It was unreal.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
I was like crazy, and I'm like I'm going, I'm
doing like Circle eight C and all.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I'm driving around like a yeah crazy with dude.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Dude.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
It's one of my most vivid Yeah, you're you're dead on.
It's one of my most vivid memories of all that.
And for our Throwback Thursday topic, Covino and Rich for
an hour talked about the biggest memories with sports in
our network, things that were going on in general in
life at that time and how weird everything was. And
there were a lot of callers calling in and saying

(26:46):
what they remembered the most about it, and one caller
in particular thanked our network because he said, and by
the way, he called you out by.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Name, Oh a good way.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
Yeah, he said, that the hour and a half he
got to listen to Ben Mallor on his commute to work,
because he was still one of the essential workers. That
was the only thing at the time that made him
feel normal.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Well, there's nothing normal about my show, but I appreciate
I appreciate his kindness. Yeah, it was to think about
now in hindsight, because I remember when I first came
into sports radio in you know, I was a kid,
and every year, the one month people bitched about was
the month of late from like mid June to late July,

(27:34):
before NFL training camps kind of got going.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
And the worst was the All Star break.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
In Major League Baseball because there were no Yeah, and
this was before social media and all that. So to
think that we as as sports gas bags, did one
hundred and thirty four days of sports radio without sports
like the whole thing shut down. It was March March eleventh,
twenty twenty, all the way till July two third.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
There were no sporting events in America.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
There was no There was like Korean baseball we got
to watch on TV and stuff, but.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
There were the stupid NASCAR simulation races that games of
horse on zoom on ESPN.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Remember, Yeah, I was bringing up Marble racing, is what
I Hey.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
I brought that up on Covino and Rich. I talked
about how I'll never forget you doing the monologue on
the Marble Race Championship.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, And I gave the.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
Hosts a lot of props because I remember our boss
Scott Shapiro getting all of us on a zoom saying,
and not sure how long this is going to last,
but without games, we really you know, this was when
we knew there was going to be no tournament and
the NBA said no more, and we thought, oh is
this going to go for a long time. Nobody was

(28:50):
really sure, and I remember Scott Shapiro telling all of
us producers, this is when you got to dig down
deep and find some really entertaining content that's not on
the surface. You're going to have to dig and work hard. Yeah,
and I'll never forget that zoom call. Everybody was nervous.
We didn't know if there were going to be a
lot less listeners, and it turned out there were so

(29:11):
many more because people had all this extra time on
their hands and they were trapped and they wanted some comfort,
just like that caller was alluding to.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, no, it's true.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
We had the most listeners we've ever had in the
history of the network. Twenty five years now and the
network's been on and the most listeners were during the pandemic.
Which does that say that we're not good at talking
about sports.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
I don't know. But it was crazy and I have
and we still.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Get I get letters today from people that started listening
during the pandemic that have been with me and with
Fox Sports Radio ever since then, just kind of hanging
out with us because they were just people couldn't sleep,
they were up at night, they couldn't know deal with life.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
You know.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Been The memories of this bothered Covino so much that
during the segment he had to stand up and talk.
As he was standing in right when we went to commercials,
he went outside and did a lap. He had COVID
to the point where he was in the hospital and
a priest came in and gave him a rosary and
prayed over him. So he thought he was a goner

(30:13):
during COVID.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
It's it was a wild time, and you know it's
you think you're we don't do list as you know, Danny,
We're not to a list show, but on Big Ben's
big board that COVID, And then I remember driving I
was at the Fox lot on nine to eleven doing
updates when then that happened, and then driving past Lax
with no flights because all the airports were closed. I

(30:38):
remember remember that had actually been in New York two
weeks prior to nine to eleven in the World Trade
Center and the famous story September I was. I was
there in like late August, like the last couple of
days of August, in before nine to eleven, and we
were in the lobby of the World Trade Center, the

(31:00):
observation deck, and it was about four fifteen in the
afternoon or something like that, and they were charging an
ungodly amount of money to take the elevator up to
the observation deck. And they said at five o'clock you're
gonna have to leave. So I said, screw that, I'm
not paying that money. I'll come back. I remember I
tell my brothers, I said, oh, I'll come back. You know,

(31:24):
these things aren't going anywhere, and I'll come back next
time I'm in New York.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
And they did go. They were gone. But so after
that I.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Did learn that lesson to always even if you only
have a few minutes, ye know't do it.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
You never know what's going to happen and all that.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
But anyway, on that note, I think we will put
the baby to bed here enjoy the college basketball today.
So I know by the end of the weekend we'll
be down to the sweet sixteen. So we down to
by the end of the day today, is it the
twenty four? Are we down to twenty four teams?

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (31:51):
I think you're right.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, okay, so we go to twenty four today and
then by the end of tomorrow it'll be down to
the sweet sixteen. Anyway, all right, well we'll do the
math on that. The math ain't math, and I think
I'm writing into that though I'm not a numbers guy,
but that doesn't seem to add up.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
How dare you?

Speaker 1 (32:07):
All right? Have a great rest of your day today.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
We'll have a mailbag podcast, a brand spanking new mailbag
podcast obviously tomorrow, and we'll catch you then later.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
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