March 2, 2021 • 28 mins
Would you rather: Colin discusses which events he would rather see happen in the NFL
Guest: Darius Leonard
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security camera. So I love stories like this. This is amazing,
and I always think, you know, we always talk about
joy quarterbacks who have a chip on their shoulder because nobody,
you know, thought they were going to be good. I
think about Darius Leonard. So, Darius Leonard plays in the
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shadow of Clemson and South Carolina and he goes to
South Carolina State. So I'm gonna ask him in a second,
did they even recruit you? So I never saw him
playing college. I guarantee a ninety percent of the players
never saw him playing college. He not only goes to
the Colts as a rookie, and he's good. This is funny.
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He led the NFL in tackles as a rookie. There's
this old term sleeper, like a guy's a sleeper. Darius
is one of the last sleepers that was literally a
star NFL player that like nobody saw playing college. We
usually hear about I remember t Y Hilton played, and
I remember hearing about t Y Hilton. I didn't even
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hear about Darius Leonard. And he has a new foundation.
He is joining us live that he's gonna be a
Hall of Famer four years, three time All pro. So
let me ask him, So, did Clemson or South Carolina
even recruit you? Clemson? Yes, South Carolina No. So did
you always have a little chip on your shoulder about that?
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Did you want to prove him wrong? Of course, because
you know my brother went to Clemson and my cousin
went to Clemson, So I was thinking, you know, I
was gonna follow in that same same, that same road
to go to Clemson. And you know, me and my
brother had the same frame. So I mean, I don't
understand what was what was the what was the thing there?
And then so it came out to my very last
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test score to be qualified to play at the mess level.
And once I made it, you know, I called them, hey,
you know I made the score. They said they had
they had no more scholarships. I called every college, every
college that you know, we had interest in me. Nobody
had scholarships and nobody wanted me. So I called South
Carolina State. I asked him, hey, I made the score,
which I got. They said we got to a PARTI scholarship.
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So I went up there on on a PARSI scholarship
and the rest of seasty. Oh my god, so that's
even worse. You're both your brothers played at Clemson. It
was crazy, man. I mean I stayed every weekend I
was in clemsons. I just knew that was the only visit.
I mean, the only camp that I went to was
Clemson camp. And then luckily, you know, on the way
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back from Clemson, I went through South Carolina day had
camp and you know, I stopped there for like an hour,
and then after that that was that was it. Oh
my god, isn't an amazing story. So you go to
the NFL and nobody knows who you are, and then
the even Darius Leonard, who's there, so how many practices
did it take before the cold players were coming up
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to you and like they knew your name, they knew
who you were, Like, how long before you're like, okay,
I'm gonna be good? How long it take? Oh? Well,
you know I came in on the with a quad injury,
so that first that first day of practice, I reinjured
my quad, so I didn't do anything all OTAs and
you could tell the looks on the guys faces like, wow,
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we just really drafted this guy. He's hurt. I don't
know what he's gonna bring to the table. And then
the first day of training camp, I picked off Andrew
luck and this, and you knew everybody's coming up to
miss congratulating mere talking about it. You're gonna be pretty good.
And that was it. And then the game that I
really think that stood out to everybody was Week two
against the Washington risking with the Washington football team now
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and I ended with nineteen tackles, two sacks, And that's
when they were like okay, yeah, okay, now now we
realize who we have nineteen tackles in an NFL game.
That is insane. So now you know it's interesting. Um,
you had doubters and now you have Carson Wentz and
Darius he has doubters. Um, how did cult players look
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at a guy that was really good and they really
struggled because there are a lot of people out there
right now that are like, man, you guys want a
lot of games with Philip Rivers? How do you Is
the team all in on Carson? How does it feel
right now? Are we all in it? You know? Every
everything you know, we trust and believe in everything. Chris
Baller and coach fr and Je Mercery doing all in
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the front office. And if you get brought into the
coach organization, I mean that they believe in you. And
if they believe in you, we believe in them, and
we're gonna stick behind you no matter what. And I
do think you know, I played against Carson in twenty
eighteen his first game back from his injury, and he
played very well on it when he came back. I
haven't seen too much film after that, but he was
actually a pretty good quarterback when we played him, So
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we know what talent talented he is, we know what
type of leadership that he brings in. So we're definitely
looking forward to it. And I just prayed that he
takes every doubt or just like Philip Rivers did. They
doubted Philip Rivers when he came to the Innneapolis Coat
and he proved them doubters wrong. So I hope that
Carson Wentz could come in and proved every doubter wrong.
And hopefully the end of season, when he's holding up
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that Lobardi Trophy, hopefully he gonna hopefully get some kind
of some kind of some kind of good feedback instead
of all this negative feedback that he's getting now in
the media, which which definitely sucks because he's been playing,
he's been playing well. He's in the NFL, and everybody
talk trash. He's playing at the highest level that he
can possibly play that and he gets so much criticism
for being an NFL quarterback. So I'm definitely looking forward
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to it. By the way, Philip Rivers, I'm not sure
Philip Rivers could outrun my microphone. He's an old man,
and he came in last year and Joy and I
were sitting here and we're like, this guy, We thought
he should hang it up, were you, sir? I mean,
he's not the most athletic guy. The first time you
played with him, you know, he didn't run very well.
He's got that crazy side arm stuff. Were you kind
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of surprised how effective he was at his age? Oh? Well,
you know last year, well the year before last, we
played him and we won, so I knew what he
was capable of. And my brother played with him since
my brother got drafted there at two thousand and seven.
So I watched Philip for a long time. And then
when he got here, you know, everybody was talking down
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about him, you know what, saying he wasn't there, saying
it wasn't bad. And then you see him in practice
and you see him many games. How he how he's
taking over the whole offense, he's running it, he's talking trash,
and he's such a competitor. And I don't think it
surprised me because I believed him since since he came
from San Diego. But you know, just happened him. The
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only thing that surprised me was he retired. I really
do think that uncle Phil has some left in the team,
and that was the only surprise to me. But he's
been playing well up ever since. I every since I
knew him, knew about them. Yeah, you know, you guys
didn't have a preseason last year obviously the pandemic, but
it didn't hurt the team. The team played great. When
you look back at the pandemic here and the changes
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you had to make, And now you're gonna have OTAs
I would guess, and you're gonna have camp. You know,
it's funny. I was never a huge fan of preseason football.
I don't think Darius Leonard needs four warm up games.
I don't want to see you get hurt. Like preseason
to me is me crossing my fingers that star players
don't get hurt. How valuable do you believe, Darius? Because
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you didn't have preseason last year and you were good
this morning. Do you think preseason is valuable in the NFL?
It is valuable for rookies. I would think so, just
because of the day they're coming in and they're coming
into a loose system, and you would hate to see
that first game going full speed is a real game
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that really counts, and they really and complete shouting with
the lights. So when it comes down to preseason games,
I think for rookies, that's the best top of them
to come. So now they're getting all the jitters out. Okay,
now I'm in the NFL. I'm learning this new system.
They're gonna build them confidence. But I think that's about it,
because when it comes down to the best, the BET's
only playing. Maybe five the team plays, and then we're
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standing on the sideline. So I just think it's good
for good for the rookies to learn the system and
learn exactly how fast the game changed from college to
the NFL level. You guys, I'm reading stories over the
last week Darius Darius Leonard joining us from the Colts
as good as any linebacker in the NFL. I mean,
simply put seventeen game schedule. I don't know. I don't
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like to I mean to me, I don't like leagues
when they get greedy. I feel like, God, you guys
play them enough. I don't. I don't love the extra game.
Even though I join, I benefit from it more. Football
is good for us as a player in the NFL.
What do you think about an extra game? Are you good?
Beast up? You don't like it? No, I don't. I
don't like it at all. I mean, we're putting our
body on the line for sixteen weeks already and then
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we're gonna had another game. That's nine times out of
teen and not even a meaningful game, and you're putting
everything at risk. So I personally don't like it. The
other guys voted for I think the sixteen season UM
sixteen game season was has been good for what fifty
years now? So why, I mean, why change it now?
So I honestly, I mean, I don't like it at all.
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This They're gonna give us another another bottle week because
it's already a long season, So why I had another game? Yeah? No,
I totally agree with that. I totally agree with that.
All right, you have a Today, Darius Leonard announced the
establishment of his Maniac Foundation. And you're obviously a guy
that cares about your community. I know, Chris Ballard, you're
one of the good guys. So what's this foundation about?
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Tell me? You know, it's the Maniac Foundation. It's based
off you know, just helping every every family and kids
and needs. We have our three three pillars that we
definitely want to touch. The first one, our first pillar
is you know, helping families get food on the table
for their families. Uh. The second pillar, you know, we
want to talk about kids, you know, helping kids in
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the educational programs UM try to try to initiate our
first math maniacs. Try to get domb just enjoying during
school work again, especially in the pandemic where you're sitting
on the computer all day, you're not in the classroom,
you're not around friends. And then the third one is,
you know, just helping on what the fitness. You know,
you want to get kids more active now because you
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know a lot of video games and everything everybody's inside,
So we want to we want to try to get
kids to kind of get active again. Um, making sure
that they know that there's so many people that's out
there that's going to help them on their way and
they're not alone. So just definitely trying to find a
way to get kids more involved, get you know, help
families out that's in need, and you know, just trying
to be a lemming head a hand to people in need.
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By the way, this could be a dumb question, so
don't make fun of me. But you hit hard? You
you you? I mean you hit hard? You are you are?
Are you? Two thirty five? By two thirty two? How
about how much you way? I probably finished the season
probably around two fifteen. You hit hard when you if
you ever hit a guy and you just you hear
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him WinCE like something after a guy. After you hit
a guy, you've you've sacked Ryan Tannehill a lot. When
you hit Tannehill, can you just hear does he ever
talk to you and say can you slow down a
little now? Because? Um, you know when I when I
talk with quarterbacks, you know that's not on it's time to,
you know, it's trying to celebrate, it's time to. You know,
it's trying to have fun. So I don't I don't
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even give them an opportunity to really say too much. Um.
I think the only person that I ever hit and
he talked trash to me was the old man, Frank Gore.
Frank Gordon talk trash the whole entire game, which which
makes the game so so much fun. Um, that's the
only guy that I really feel like that talk that
talk trash when when you hit him, because you know
he for him to be his age, he still runs
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the ball very very well. He runs hard, he runs
beyond his pads, and so he has the right to
talk trash whenever you do hit him because he didn't
have company so much in his his career. Can you
imagine talking trash to Darius Leonard and you know he's
gonna tackle you. I would not recommend that for anybody. Hey,
good luck to you and the Colts. You're a credit
to the game. You're a good dude, and I love
having you on again. Thanks man. Yeah, so no problems.
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Can you imagine that his brothers went to Clemson, he
went to the camp, they called him up and we're
not have any space for you. I mean, I mean, listen,
that just shows you you can make mistakes. Clemson made
a mistake Clemson, and that's that is. I never forget
the story on DeMarcus Ware. DeMarcus Ware went to like
Auburn High school and Auburn didn't offer him. Can you
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imagine that? Literally the coach could see the field, you
could watch him practice from your office. Right, you're not
good enough to play here? And that just so. First
of all, some kids developed later, right, like some athletes
just get bigger later. But yeah, no, no Jonathan Ogden
in high school. Yeah, they're not all. Do we show
that picture? Yeah, they're not all Jonathan Ogden. Hey, what's up, everybody?
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You know. Sometimes being overlooked and being doubted as part
of the process. Hey, listen, quarterbacks aren't the only one
with a chip on their shoulder, nothing wrong with that.
Darius is like, oh yeah, I do's gonna want to
be on the receiving end of the shoulder from Darius Leonard.
He's like Philip Rivers is always so fascinating because he
would always talk trash. It's like, I don't know to
see the mentality behind that. So he said he weigh
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two hundred and fifteen at the end of the year.
If you watch him play, he wrecks people. That's why
I thought, like two thirty. He blows guys up. Built different,
like there's a there's like a two fifteen. It's like
tall and lean and a little you know, and then
there's like he caused In fact, I don't have the
stats in front of me, Darius Lener I think caused
the most fumbles in the NFL lush year. He blows
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guys up and he's two fifteen. Well, speaking of all
of that, Russell Wilson's desire for an improved offensive line
in Seattle is only going to be heightened now that j. J.
Watt is with the Cardinals and Chandler Jones showed some
sympathy for Russell Wilson with what he now has to
face in the division. After the Watt news drops, he tweeted,
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also feel bad from my guy RW three Hello. One
of the last nine winners of the NFL Defensive Player
of the Year of the last six of them are
split between JJ Watt and Aaron Donald, who are in
the division now. Well. Also Moosa is coming back. Yeah, No,
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it's rough. I don't I really don't know, I whatever,
we don't know what's gonna happen with Russell Wilson. But
I just I can't visualize him leaving like I can't either.
I just can't see it. I do think when Albert
Brewer said yesterday five shocked by that stays. So that
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means forty five. Listen, Pete's got all the power. If
Pete feels you're trying to humiliate him, Pete may just
move off it. That's why I gotta tell you. The
whole Raider thing is fascinating. So Pete and Gruden or
two of the most two of the three most powerful
coaches in the sport, they can make any move happen. Yeah,
you give me four first round picks or three first
round picks and Derek Carr and I get. And by
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the way, Derek can spin it. Derek's a top twelve quarterback.
I don't know that that one is just right now.
Those Seahawks have the best quarterback in the division. I know.
But if you again, Pete's got power, you're humiliating me.
My boss is like me, if I'm humiliating them too long,
I'm gonna get rid of me. What's more humiliating Russell
Wilson saying he wants a little more power. Are you
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losing coming in the last in the division every single
season because you don't have a quarterback? Well, I think
you Derek Carr. Maybe I don't know, Maybe Pete Carroll
think Derek Carr's good Derek Carr. How what is the
gap between Derek Carr and the next best quarterback, assuming
Jimmy d can play, which is an assumption, Well, no,
it would be Russell's the best. Yeah, I'm just say
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if you start calling out management, Pete's got all the power. Now,
John Snyder doesn't make all the moves. Pete, I want
all the power, all the devisions. Power. Don't get anywhere
by yourself called a power launch, Okay, power Martin, I
don't want to hear about it. You're not Serena Williams.
You're not. Tiger Woods is a team sport, and if
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you're a coach or an executive, you're not on the field.
It's a collaboration when it's when it happens. When you
do that, Look what can happen? Tom Brady Man, those
two Tampa man like power. We would just we like
trucks and we like big meat sandwiches, and you know
what it makes we like power tools and powerful. It
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makes for a great documentaries and great content. So okay,
I guess it's fine. So there's been a lot of
speculation about the Niners moving off of Jimmy G this offseason, possibly,
but his teammate Kyle us Check doesn't think that Jimmy
G will be affected by all the trade talk. He says,
I don't think I think would be naive to say
he doesn't hear any of it. But the guy really
doesn't hear a lot of it. He's not super active
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on social media. I know he keeps things really close
in house, so he's not really putting himself out there
and letting himself listen to that kind of stuff because
I think he knows how toxic it can be and
what it can lead to. If I was somebody in
a situation like Jimmy G, I would stay off social
media and probably avoid it shows. We'll just put filters on.
The filters are helpful, they're everything. I don't even see
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all the trolls anymore. They're very helpful. And Twitter can
be a place where well, Twitter is a place where
everybody has an opinion and no one is wrong. So
if I'm in a situation like Jimmy g where there's
constant speculation about the future of my job, I probably
would avoid it as well. There's no way to say
it doesn't affect people. Everything affects people in some way
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or another. If someone tells you something negative about yourself,
even if you don't care about the source of it,
you've heard it, which is why I do think it's
very important to filter those things out. Like we talked
about Derek Jeter all the time, Derek Jeter wanted yes
guys around him during the season because he wanted to
remain positive. There's something to that mentality. Now. I do
think that constructive criticism is helpful, but what is constructive criticism.
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Constructive criticism that is helpful comes from places where people
either no more than you do about a particular subject,
or they are your peers who have had a different
experience or have a different perspective on your shared experience,
right or the people that sign your checks. Twitter doesn't
fall in that category. So I do think that avoiding
social media if you're in that spot is very helpful.
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So Mac Jones has been climbing as we get closer
to the draft, too, got to see him play when
the two of them were at Alabama together, and he
expects Jones to be very successful in the NFL. I
would say, he's he's a sly kind of athletic person.
He's a more mobile Tom Breed, you know, he's he's
very athletic, I would say. But he's very smart too,
you know, not just on the field, he's smart off
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the field as well. But he's a great person. I'm
thinking whatever team gets him, I mean, they're going to
be very lucky. He's a great player. All those Alabama
guys are wide open. I don't know about Mac Jones.
I can be if you go to New England, nikkil
Harry can't separate. He's sixty three to fifteen. He has
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he has the body type and we've seen him playing
big games. It's just hard to evaluate Alabama quarterback. I agree,
everybody's wide open. I agree. It's you're you're throwing to
the best, you're being protected by the best, and you
have the best by the best. And even there when
you see they're not wide open, they're way better players.
And the guys defending, I mean, look at it. You
just tell it is possible to play on a great
team and still look like the best player on that team,
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Lawrence Joe Burrow. Yeah, so you can play for a
great program, right with a good to great coach and
great pieces around you, and still shine the brightest. No,
I don't necessarily feel that way about about Mac Jones. No,
I'm rooting for him. I hope he gets to the
NFL and does well. But we all have to make
our evaluations in our picks. That's what we do for living,
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is give our opinion. And I also get Alabama. You
always play with the lead most teams. When you're a
rookie and you go a top ten pick, you're playing
from behind. That's a whole different ball game. Everybody knows
you're gonna throw. Mac Jones throws. It's play action because
they always have a great run game. So he's always
throwing on like second and two. Well, you're just gonna
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have with the best receivers in the NFL, it's third
and eleven, and everybody in now knows you're throwing in
the ball in front of you with no pressure. So
I don't know. Joy with the news. Well that's the news,
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Agency's been wild so far, it's not even official, and
we got players moving all over the place. We're gonna
play the game called would you rather So? What would
I rather see? Considering? Is it good for our show?
Is it entertaining? Is it good for the player there's
a lot of variables here, joy Let's play would you rather?
Would you rather have the Shawn Watson traded to the
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Jets or stay in Houston? I would rather have him
traded to the Jets for two reasons. One it would
save his career because nobody should have to play in
Houston right now. And two, frankly, Sam Darnold, although as
a GM I would keep him. It's a fresh start.
He can kind of start over at twenty three years old.
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So I would rather have Deshaun traded to the Jets.
Would you rather have Russell Wilson traded to the Cowboys
or stay in Seattle? For the benefit of our show,
I'd rather have him traded to the Cowboys. It would
be ratings gold. Also, he's on pace to be the
most sack quarterback ever. Also, I don't think he has
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the respect of his head coach as much as I
would like. And frankly, I'm from the Pacific Northwest, so
I have benefited from it. But it would be fascinating
to watch Pete Carroll watch Russell Wilson flourish somewhere else.
Would you rather have Justin Herbert or Trevor Lawrence for
the next fifteen years. That's too I can't even answer that.
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That's too tough. Can I go back to that one
or something? I make the rules and you must answer.
I can't. I can't answer that. I don't know. I
don't know. Seriously, I'm that's how you know what? Right now?
I would say, justin Herbert, because we have not seen
Trevor Lawrence play one snap in the NFL. Yeah, I can't,
and I love I can't say that right now, I
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really don't. I don't know. How would you rather have
Sam Donald traded to the Niners or stay in New York? Oh?
If that would be my dream? Yeah, it goes to
the Niners. That's my dream is that he goes to
an offense that can be run centric and he's a
physical quarterback. Niners. They he fits the Niners. I think
he fits Shanahan. He's a like Kittle's top and Deebo Samuel.
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They're a physical football team. He's a physical quarterback. He'd
be out West and I'd just he'd win a lot
of games and I would win a lot of arguments.
This isn't on the list, but of all the quarterbacks
we're talking about moving He's the one you'd want with
the Niners the most, right, Yes, yeah. Would you rather
have the Dolphins trade for Watson or stick with Tuah?
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I'd probably want the Dolphins to get him. I like
Brian Flores. I'm good God. They got close to the
playoffs last year, and I think he's exciting. Nothing against Tuah,
but I think he's excited. And and I'm the one
that said right before Tua started, I had massive reservations,
and so I would be right on this argument, which
isn't the biggest thing, but it is nice occasionally. Would
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you rather have Tom Brady win his eighth Super Bowl
or Russell Wilson win his seconds? Next season? Oh, I
would rather have Russell win a second either in c
Adler Dallas. Yeah, I mean stuffing against Brady, but I've
seen this story and I think Russell Wilson, like Aaron Rodgers,
kind of needs a second to be a I mean,
they're both gonna make a Hall of Fame, but I
think if you gave Aaron a second and Russell a second,
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it puts him in a really high end class. Would
you rather have Dak planned the franchise tag with the
Cowboys or secure a long term deal with a different team. Oh,
I would rather have him secure a long term deal
with a different team because if he played for a
different team, I wouldn't have to talk about his contract.
I mean, now, let's be honest, if Dak played for
the jag if he played for ninety percent of the
teams in the league, we wouldn't talk about him, not
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as contract. No, so'm I am so fatigued over this
story that well, because it's tough to talk about people's money.
We don't lose any money if Dak Prescott gets paid.
We're not paying him, and he's nobody to make money.
He's not a polarizing like personality. So it's just like
I'm done with it. So if he went to somewhere else,
it's like, Okay, I've talked Dak enough for four careers.
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I'd be over it. Would you rather have Drew Brees
orsi or come back for one more season? Yeah? Retire?
He's already signed up for Sunday Night Football or NBC
or something. Yeah, like we've seen this right, like this
he is the perfect example. Still competitive, good, not special.
You see some physical deterioration like Drew is how you
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should retire. He's lost his fastball, but he can still
he can still throw it about three times a game,
not twelve, and so you stop and he's and they
got no cap space. So it's a mass. I also
feel like and Drew doesn't care about this, nor should he.
He's do what he wants. But I feel like the
fans and the league have emotionally mourned and moved on
(26:39):
from Drew Brees. Yeah, so that makes sense. So like
we saw that, we felt it. We saw him on
the field with Brady, we saw his look back, like
we enjoyed his career. I don't know what doesn't care
about that. I don't know what I do with Trevor
Lawrence and Justin Herbert. I really don't. Yeah, you ducked
out of that one. That was too difficult. See, I
just don't want to put that one on tape and
(27:00):
it comes back, I know, because they always clip it
and like don't have any context with it. I don't
see you guys clipping making those uh you know, montage
videos when we're right about everything. Yeah, you never see those,
But I got filter. I don't see anything anymore. I
remember I used to be part of a little Twitter
Anger community. Now not anymore. I go home and eat
mats of ball soup every day. I have mots of
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and I always think, you know, we always talk about
joy quarterbacks who have a chip on their shoulder because nobody,
you know, thought they were going to be good. I
think about Darius Leonard. So, Darius Leonard plays in the
(00:44):
shadow of Clemson and South Carolina and he goes to
South Carolina State. So I'm gonna ask him in a second,
did they even recruit you? So I never saw him
playing college. I guarantee a ninety percent of the players
never saw him playing college. He not only goes to
the Colts as a rookie, and he's good. This is funny.
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He led the NFL in tackles as a rookie. There's
this old term sleeper, like a guy's a sleeper. Darius
is one of the last sleepers that was literally a
star NFL player that like nobody saw playing college. We
usually hear about I remember t Y Hilton played, and
I remember hearing about t Y Hilton. I didn't even
(01:28):
hear about Darius Leonard. And he has a new foundation.
He is joining us live that he's gonna be a
Hall of Famer four years, three time All pro. So
let me ask him, So, did Clemson or South Carolina
even recruit you? Clemson? Yes, South Carolina No. So did
you always have a little chip on your shoulder about that?
(01:49):
Did you want to prove him wrong? Of course, because
you know my brother went to Clemson and my cousin
went to Clemson, So I was thinking, you know, I
was gonna follow in that same same, that same road
to go to Clemson. And you know, me and my
brother had the same frame. So I mean, I don't
understand what was what was the what was the thing there?
And then so it came out to my very last
(02:10):
test score to be qualified to play at the mess level.
And once I made it, you know, I called them, hey,
you know I made the score. They said they had
they had no more scholarships. I called every college, every
college that you know, we had interest in me. Nobody
had scholarships and nobody wanted me. So I called South
Carolina State. I asked him, hey, I made the score,
which I got. They said we got to a PARTI scholarship.
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So I went up there on on a PARSI scholarship
and the rest of seasty. Oh my god, so that's
even worse. You're both your brothers played at Clemson. It
was crazy, man. I mean I stayed every weekend I
was in clemsons. I just knew that was the only visit.
I mean, the only camp that I went to was
Clemson camp. And then luckily, you know, on the way
(02:55):
back from Clemson, I went through South Carolina day had
camp and you know, I stopped there for like an hour,
and then after that that was that was it. Oh
my god, isn't an amazing story. So you go to
the NFL and nobody knows who you are, and then
the even Darius Leonard, who's there, so how many practices
did it take before the cold players were coming up
(03:16):
to you and like they knew your name, they knew
who you were, Like, how long before you're like, okay,
I'm gonna be good? How long it take? Oh? Well,
you know I came in on the with a quad injury,
so that first that first day of practice, I reinjured
my quad, so I didn't do anything all OTAs and
you could tell the looks on the guys faces like, wow,
(03:37):
we just really drafted this guy. He's hurt. I don't
know what he's gonna bring to the table. And then
the first day of training camp, I picked off Andrew
luck and this, and you knew everybody's coming up to
miss congratulating mere talking about it. You're gonna be pretty good.
And that was it. And then the game that I
really think that stood out to everybody was Week two
against the Washington risking with the Washington football team now
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and I ended with nineteen tackles, two sacks, And that's
when they were like okay, yeah, okay, now now we
realize who we have nineteen tackles in an NFL game.
That is insane. So now you know it's interesting. Um,
you had doubters and now you have Carson Wentz and
Darius he has doubters. Um, how did cult players look
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at a guy that was really good and they really
struggled because there are a lot of people out there
right now that are like, man, you guys want a
lot of games with Philip Rivers? How do you Is
the team all in on Carson? How does it feel
right now? Are we all in it? You know? Every
everything you know, we trust and believe in everything. Chris
Baller and coach fr and Je Mercery doing all in
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the front office. And if you get brought into the
coach organization, I mean that they believe in you. And
if they believe in you, we believe in them, and
we're gonna stick behind you no matter what. And I
do think you know, I played against Carson in twenty
eighteen his first game back from his injury, and he
played very well on it when he came back. I
haven't seen too much film after that, but he was
actually a pretty good quarterback when we played him, So
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we know what talent talented he is, we know what
type of leadership that he brings in. So we're definitely
looking forward to it. And I just prayed that he
takes every doubt or just like Philip Rivers did. They
doubted Philip Rivers when he came to the Innneapolis Coat
and he proved them doubters wrong. So I hope that
Carson Wentz could come in and proved every doubter wrong.
And hopefully the end of season, when he's holding up
(05:27):
that Lobardi Trophy, hopefully he gonna hopefully get some kind
of some kind of some kind of good feedback instead
of all this negative feedback that he's getting now in
the media, which which definitely sucks because he's been playing,
he's been playing well. He's in the NFL, and everybody
talk trash. He's playing at the highest level that he
can possibly play that and he gets so much criticism
for being an NFL quarterback. So I'm definitely looking forward
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to it. By the way, Philip Rivers, I'm not sure
Philip Rivers could outrun my microphone. He's an old man,
and he came in last year and Joy and I
were sitting here and we're like, this guy, We thought
he should hang it up, were you, sir? I mean,
he's not the most athletic guy. The first time you
played with him, you know, he didn't run very well.
He's got that crazy side arm stuff. Were you kind
(06:09):
of surprised how effective he was at his age? Oh? Well,
you know last year, well the year before last, we
played him and we won, so I knew what he
was capable of. And my brother played with him since
my brother got drafted there at two thousand and seven.
So I watched Philip for a long time. And then
when he got here, you know, everybody was talking down
(06:30):
about him, you know what, saying he wasn't there, saying
it wasn't bad. And then you see him in practice
and you see him many games. How he how he's
taking over the whole offense, he's running it, he's talking trash,
and he's such a competitor. And I don't think it
surprised me because I believed him since since he came
from San Diego. But you know, just happened him. The
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only thing that surprised me was he retired. I really
do think that uncle Phil has some left in the team,
and that was the only surprise to me. But he's
been playing well up ever since. I every since I
knew him, knew about them. Yeah, you know, you guys
didn't have a preseason last year obviously the pandemic, but
it didn't hurt the team. The team played great. When
you look back at the pandemic here and the changes
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you had to make, And now you're gonna have OTAs
I would guess, and you're gonna have camp. You know,
it's funny. I was never a huge fan of preseason football.
I don't think Darius Leonard needs four warm up games.
I don't want to see you get hurt. Like preseason
to me is me crossing my fingers that star players
don't get hurt. How valuable do you believe, Darius? Because
(07:31):
you didn't have preseason last year and you were good
this morning. Do you think preseason is valuable in the NFL?
It is valuable for rookies. I would think so, just
because of the day they're coming in and they're coming
into a loose system, and you would hate to see
that first game going full speed is a real game
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that really counts, and they really and complete shouting with
the lights. So when it comes down to preseason games,
I think for rookies, that's the best top of them
to come. So now they're getting all the jitters out. Okay,
now I'm in the NFL. I'm learning this new system.
They're gonna build them confidence. But I think that's about it,
because when it comes down to the best, the BET's
only playing. Maybe five the team plays, and then we're
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standing on the sideline. So I just think it's good
for good for the rookies to learn the system and
learn exactly how fast the game changed from college to
the NFL level. You guys, I'm reading stories over the
last week Darius Darius Leonard joining us from the Colts
as good as any linebacker in the NFL. I mean,
simply put seventeen game schedule. I don't know. I don't
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like to I mean to me, I don't like leagues
when they get greedy. I feel like, God, you guys
play them enough. I don't. I don't love the extra game.
Even though I join, I benefit from it more. Football
is good for us as a player in the NFL.
What do you think about an extra game? Are you good?
Beast up? You don't like it? No, I don't. I
don't like it at all. I mean, we're putting our
body on the line for sixteen weeks already and then
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we're gonna had another game. That's nine times out of
teen and not even a meaningful game, and you're putting
everything at risk. So I personally don't like it. The
other guys voted for I think the sixteen season UM
sixteen game season was has been good for what fifty
years now? So why, I mean, why change it now?
So I honestly, I mean, I don't like it at all.
(09:20):
This They're gonna give us another another bottle week because
it's already a long season, So why I had another game? Yeah? No,
I totally agree with that. I totally agree with that.
All right, you have a Today, Darius Leonard announced the
establishment of his Maniac Foundation. And you're obviously a guy
that cares about your community. I know, Chris Ballard, you're
one of the good guys. So what's this foundation about?
(09:40):
Tell me? You know, it's the Maniac Foundation. It's based
off you know, just helping every every family and kids
and needs. We have our three three pillars that we
definitely want to touch. The first one, our first pillar
is you know, helping families get food on the table
for their families. Uh. The second pillar, you know, we
want to talk about kids, you know, helping kids in
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the educational programs UM try to try to initiate our
first math maniacs. Try to get domb just enjoying during
school work again, especially in the pandemic where you're sitting
on the computer all day, you're not in the classroom,
you're not around friends. And then the third one is,
you know, just helping on what the fitness. You know,
you want to get kids more active now because you
(10:21):
know a lot of video games and everything everybody's inside,
So we want to we want to try to get
kids to kind of get active again. Um, making sure
that they know that there's so many people that's out
there that's going to help them on their way and
they're not alone. So just definitely trying to find a
way to get kids more involved, get you know, help
families out that's in need, and you know, just trying
to be a lemming head a hand to people in need.
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By the way, this could be a dumb question, so
don't make fun of me. But you hit hard? You
you you? I mean you hit hard? You are you are?
Are you? Two thirty five? By two thirty two? How
about how much you way? I probably finished the season
probably around two fifteen. You hit hard when you if
you ever hit a guy and you just you hear
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him WinCE like something after a guy. After you hit
a guy, you've you've sacked Ryan Tannehill a lot. When
you hit Tannehill, can you just hear does he ever
talk to you and say can you slow down a
little now? Because? Um, you know when I when I
talk with quarterbacks, you know that's not on it's time to,
you know, it's trying to celebrate, it's time to. You know,
it's trying to have fun. So I don't I don't
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even give them an opportunity to really say too much. Um.
I think the only person that I ever hit and
he talked trash to me was the old man, Frank Gore.
Frank Gordon talk trash the whole entire game, which which
makes the game so so much fun. Um, that's the
only guy that I really feel like that talk that
talk trash when when you hit him, because you know
he for him to be his age, he still runs
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the ball very very well. He runs hard, he runs
beyond his pads, and so he has the right to
talk trash whenever you do hit him because he didn't
have company so much in his his career. Can you
imagine talking trash to Darius Leonard and you know he's
gonna tackle you. I would not recommend that for anybody. Hey,
good luck to you and the Colts. You're a credit
to the game. You're a good dude, and I love
having you on again. Thanks man. Yeah, so no problems.
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Can you imagine that his brothers went to Clemson, he
went to the camp, they called him up and we're
not have any space for you. I mean, I mean, listen,
that just shows you you can make mistakes. Clemson made
a mistake Clemson, and that's that is. I never forget
the story on DeMarcus Ware. DeMarcus Ware went to like
Auburn High school and Auburn didn't offer him. Can you
(12:32):
imagine that? Literally the coach could see the field, you
could watch him practice from your office. Right, you're not
good enough to play here? And that just so. First
of all, some kids developed later, right, like some athletes
just get bigger later. But yeah, no, no Jonathan Ogden
in high school. Yeah, they're not all. Do we show
that picture? Yeah, they're not all Jonathan Ogden. Hey, what's up, everybody?
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You know. Sometimes being overlooked and being doubted as part
of the process. Hey, listen, quarterbacks aren't the only one
with a chip on their shoulder, nothing wrong with that.
Darius is like, oh yeah, I do's gonna want to
be on the receiving end of the shoulder from Darius Leonard.
He's like Philip Rivers is always so fascinating because he
would always talk trash. It's like, I don't know to
see the mentality behind that. So he said he weigh
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two hundred and fifteen at the end of the year.
If you watch him play, he wrecks people. That's why
I thought, like two thirty. He blows guys up. Built different,
like there's a there's like a two fifteen. It's like
tall and lean and a little you know, and then
there's like he caused In fact, I don't have the
stats in front of me, Darius Lener I think caused
the most fumbles in the NFL lush year. He blows
(14:21):
guys up and he's two fifteen. Well, speaking of all
of that, Russell Wilson's desire for an improved offensive line
in Seattle is only going to be heightened now that j. J.
Watt is with the Cardinals and Chandler Jones showed some
sympathy for Russell Wilson with what he now has to
face in the division. After the Watt news drops, he tweeted,
(14:41):
also feel bad from my guy RW three Hello. One
of the last nine winners of the NFL Defensive Player
of the Year of the last six of them are
split between JJ Watt and Aaron Donald, who are in
the division now. Well. Also Moosa is coming back. Yeah, No,
(15:03):
it's rough. I don't I really don't know, I whatever,
we don't know what's gonna happen with Russell Wilson. But
I just I can't visualize him leaving like I can't either.
I just can't see it. I do think when Albert
Brewer said yesterday five shocked by that stays. So that
(15:23):
means forty five. Listen, Pete's got all the power. If
Pete feels you're trying to humiliate him, Pete may just
move off it. That's why I gotta tell you. The
whole Raider thing is fascinating. So Pete and Gruden or
two of the most two of the three most powerful
coaches in the sport, they can make any move happen. Yeah,
you give me four first round picks or three first
round picks and Derek Carr and I get. And by
(15:46):
the way, Derek can spin it. Derek's a top twelve quarterback.
I don't know that that one is just right now.
Those Seahawks have the best quarterback in the division. I know.
But if you again, Pete's got power, you're humiliating me.
My boss is like me, if I'm humiliating them too long,
I'm gonna get rid of me. What's more humiliating Russell
Wilson saying he wants a little more power. Are you
(16:06):
losing coming in the last in the division every single
season because you don't have a quarterback? Well, I think
you Derek Carr. Maybe I don't know, Maybe Pete Carroll
think Derek Carr's good Derek Carr. How what is the
gap between Derek Carr and the next best quarterback, assuming
Jimmy d can play, which is an assumption, Well, no,
it would be Russell's the best. Yeah, I'm just say
(16:26):
if you start calling out management, Pete's got all the power. Now,
John Snyder doesn't make all the moves. Pete, I want
all the power, all the devisions. Power. Don't get anywhere
by yourself called a power launch, Okay, power Martin, I
don't want to hear about it. You're not Serena Williams.
You're not. Tiger Woods is a team sport, and if
(16:46):
you're a coach or an executive, you're not on the field.
It's a collaboration when it's when it happens. When you
do that, Look what can happen? Tom Brady Man, those
two Tampa man like power. We would just we like
trucks and we like big meat sandwiches, and you know
what it makes we like power tools and powerful. It
(17:12):
makes for a great documentaries and great content. So okay,
I guess it's fine. So there's been a lot of
speculation about the Niners moving off of Jimmy G this offseason, possibly,
but his teammate Kyle us Check doesn't think that Jimmy
G will be affected by all the trade talk. He says,
I don't think I think would be naive to say
he doesn't hear any of it. But the guy really
doesn't hear a lot of it. He's not super active
(17:32):
on social media. I know he keeps things really close
in house, so he's not really putting himself out there
and letting himself listen to that kind of stuff because
I think he knows how toxic it can be and
what it can lead to. If I was somebody in
a situation like Jimmy G, I would stay off social
media and probably avoid it shows. We'll just put filters on.
The filters are helpful, they're everything. I don't even see
(17:54):
all the trolls anymore. They're very helpful. And Twitter can
be a place where well, Twitter is a place where
everybody has an opinion and no one is wrong. So
if I'm in a situation like Jimmy g where there's
constant speculation about the future of my job, I probably
would avoid it as well. There's no way to say
it doesn't affect people. Everything affects people in some way
(18:15):
or another. If someone tells you something negative about yourself,
even if you don't care about the source of it,
you've heard it, which is why I do think it's
very important to filter those things out. Like we talked
about Derek Jeter all the time, Derek Jeter wanted yes
guys around him during the season because he wanted to
remain positive. There's something to that mentality. Now. I do
think that constructive criticism is helpful, but what is constructive criticism.
(18:37):
Constructive criticism that is helpful comes from places where people
either no more than you do about a particular subject,
or they are your peers who have had a different
experience or have a different perspective on your shared experience,
right or the people that sign your checks. Twitter doesn't
fall in that category. So I do think that avoiding
social media if you're in that spot is very helpful.
(18:59):
So Mac Jones has been climbing as we get closer
to the draft, too, got to see him play when
the two of them were at Alabama together, and he
expects Jones to be very successful in the NFL. I
would say, he's he's a sly kind of athletic person.
He's a more mobile Tom Breed, you know, he's he's
very athletic, I would say. But he's very smart too,
you know, not just on the field, he's smart off
(19:20):
the field as well. But he's a great person. I'm
thinking whatever team gets him, I mean, they're going to
be very lucky. He's a great player. All those Alabama
guys are wide open. I don't know about Mac Jones.
I can be if you go to New England, nikkil
Harry can't separate. He's sixty three to fifteen. He has
(19:40):
he has the body type and we've seen him playing
big games. It's just hard to evaluate Alabama quarterback. I agree,
everybody's wide open. I agree. It's you're you're throwing to
the best, you're being protected by the best, and you
have the best by the best. And even there when
you see they're not wide open, they're way better players.
And the guys defending, I mean, look at it. You
just tell it is possible to play on a great
team and still look like the best player on that team,
(20:04):
Lawrence Joe Burrow. Yeah, so you can play for a
great program, right with a good to great coach and
great pieces around you, and still shine the brightest. No,
I don't necessarily feel that way about about Mac Jones. No,
I'm rooting for him. I hope he gets to the
NFL and does well. But we all have to make
our evaluations in our picks. That's what we do for living,
(20:25):
is give our opinion. And I also get Alabama. You
always play with the lead most teams. When you're a
rookie and you go a top ten pick, you're playing
from behind. That's a whole different ball game. Everybody knows
you're gonna throw. Mac Jones throws. It's play action because
they always have a great run game. So he's always
throwing on like second and two. Well, you're just gonna
(20:46):
have with the best receivers in the NFL, it's third
and eleven, and everybody in now knows you're throwing in
the ball in front of you with no pressure. So
I don't know. Joy with the news. Well that's the news,
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Agency's been wild so far, it's not even official, and
we got players moving all over the place. We're gonna
play the game called would you rather So? What would
I rather see? Considering? Is it good for our show?
Is it entertaining? Is it good for the player there's
a lot of variables here, joy Let's play would you rather?
Would you rather have the Shawn Watson traded to the
(22:18):
Jets or stay in Houston? I would rather have him
traded to the Jets for two reasons. One it would
save his career because nobody should have to play in
Houston right now. And two, frankly, Sam Darnold, although as
a GM I would keep him. It's a fresh start.
He can kind of start over at twenty three years old.
(22:40):
So I would rather have Deshaun traded to the Jets.
Would you rather have Russell Wilson traded to the Cowboys
or stay in Seattle? For the benefit of our show,
I'd rather have him traded to the Cowboys. It would
be ratings gold. Also, he's on pace to be the
most sack quarterback ever. Also, I don't think he has
(23:00):
the respect of his head coach as much as I
would like. And frankly, I'm from the Pacific Northwest, so
I have benefited from it. But it would be fascinating
to watch Pete Carroll watch Russell Wilson flourish somewhere else.
Would you rather have Justin Herbert or Trevor Lawrence for
the next fifteen years. That's too I can't even answer that.
(23:23):
That's too tough. Can I go back to that one
or something? I make the rules and you must answer.
I can't. I can't answer that. I don't know. I
don't know. Seriously, I'm that's how you know what? Right now?
I would say, justin Herbert, because we have not seen
Trevor Lawrence play one snap in the NFL. Yeah, I can't,
and I love I can't say that right now, I
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really don't. I don't know. How would you rather have
Sam Donald traded to the Niners or stay in New York? Oh?
If that would be my dream? Yeah, it goes to
the Niners. That's my dream is that he goes to
an offense that can be run centric and he's a
physical quarterback. Niners. They he fits the Niners. I think
he fits Shanahan. He's a like Kittle's top and Deebo Samuel.
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They're a physical football team. He's a physical quarterback. He'd
be out West and I'd just he'd win a lot
of games and I would win a lot of arguments.
This isn't on the list, but of all the quarterbacks
we're talking about moving He's the one you'd want with
the Niners the most, right, Yes, yeah. Would you rather
have the Dolphins trade for Watson or stick with Tuah?
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I'd probably want the Dolphins to get him. I like
Brian Flores. I'm good God. They got close to the
playoffs last year, and I think he's exciting. Nothing against Tuah,
but I think he's excited. And and I'm the one
that said right before Tua started, I had massive reservations,
and so I would be right on this argument, which
isn't the biggest thing, but it is nice occasionally. Would
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you rather have Tom Brady win his eighth Super Bowl
or Russell Wilson win his seconds? Next season? Oh, I
would rather have Russell win a second either in c
Adler Dallas. Yeah, I mean stuffing against Brady, but I've
seen this story and I think Russell Wilson, like Aaron Rodgers,
kind of needs a second to be a I mean,
they're both gonna make a Hall of Fame, but I
think if you gave Aaron a second and Russell a second,
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it puts him in a really high end class. Would
you rather have Dak planned the franchise tag with the
Cowboys or secure a long term deal with a different team. Oh,
I would rather have him secure a long term deal
with a different team because if he played for a
different team, I wouldn't have to talk about his contract.
I mean, now, let's be honest, if Dak played for
the jag if he played for ninety percent of the
teams in the league, we wouldn't talk about him, not
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as contract. No, so'm I am so fatigued over this
story that well, because it's tough to talk about people's money.
We don't lose any money if Dak Prescott gets paid.
We're not paying him, and he's nobody to make money.
He's not a polarizing like personality. So it's just like
I'm done with it. So if he went to somewhere else,
it's like, Okay, I've talked Dak enough for four careers.
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I'd be over it. Would you rather have Drew Brees
orsi or come back for one more season? Yeah? Retire?
He's already signed up for Sunday Night Football or NBC
or something. Yeah, like we've seen this right, like this
he is the perfect example. Still competitive, good, not special.
You see some physical deterioration like Drew is how you
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should retire. He's lost his fastball, but he can still
he can still throw it about three times a game,
not twelve, and so you stop and he's and they
got no cap space. So it's a mass. I also
feel like and Drew doesn't care about this, nor should he.
He's do what he wants. But I feel like the
fans and the league have emotionally mourned and moved on
(26:39):
from Drew Brees. Yeah, so that makes sense. So like
we saw that, we felt it. We saw him on
the field with Brady, we saw his look back, like
we enjoyed his career. I don't know what doesn't care
about that. I don't know what I do with Trevor
Lawrence and Justin Herbert. I really don't. Yeah, you ducked
out of that one. That was too difficult. See, I
just don't want to put that one on tape and
(27:00):
it comes back, I know, because they always clip it
and like don't have any context with it. I don't
see you guys clipping making those uh you know, montage
videos when we're right about everything. Yeah, you never see those,
But I got filter. I don't see anything anymore. I
remember I used to be part of a little Twitter
Anger community. Now not anymore. I go home and eat
mats of ball soup every day. I have mots of
ball soup every day. At my hotel, they have great
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mats of every day soup is excellent, but my hotel
crushes it. I love a good soup. I can eat
super for lunch every day. Yeah, you know, I'm very
probas every Wednesdays because this Jersey Mike's day. Tomorrow'll eat sandwiches.
You know, here's the thing about the mark Jersey Mike's Wednesdays.
It makes Tuesday and Thursday sad. Seriously, I can come
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to work on Tuesday. I'm like, I get nothing for
free today. It's not that great of a day. It's
red Jersey Mike's has made all the other days sad days.
People ask me about how fast you eat yourself. Oh,
I devour it it. I looked like Popeye, those old
burgers things that you just tilt your head back and
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