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It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you
may be listening Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio FS one. Joey
Taylor is joining me. A lot of dack today. We
don't live on days like this. Dacks the tree and
we just build branches off it. You know, We've we've
got a lot of dack angles, a lot of dack stories.
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I mean, we were joking this morning. This is two
of the quietest days of the year in American sports
are the two days after the NBA all start in.
There's no games, there's nothing going on, and I don't
think it's coincidental Jerry then owns the world. I mean
that Jerry's very calculated. If you look at when he
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signed the big contracts. There's usually a lull in the
sports world, and Jerry kind of owns him. Listen, he
likes his Dallas Cowboys being talked about. I don't know
that this is this Jerry story, And as much as
it's the Dak and the Cowboys story, it still benefits
him because I mean, Dak got everything. You want to
know everything, everything you got, a guaranteed money, the money,
the no trade clause, the years. What am I missing?
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I mean if if you if literally you were getting
a divorce and it went for three years and then
at the end he or she got everything, You'd be like, well,
what's the point? Why why make attorneys rich? It should
have said exactly, just settle like you're not winning anything,
didn't get anything you wanted? Like Dad got everything, which
God love him, But why did you wait two years
if he's gonna get everything? I don't know? All right, So, um,
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here's the highest paid quarterbacks now in the NFL. And
our television audience will see this, and I'll read it
for our radio audience. Mahomes won, Dack two, Deshaun Watson three,
Russell Wilson four, Aaron Rodgers five, Jared Goffs tied for five,
Kirk Cousins seven, Carson Wentz eight, Matt Ryan nine, and
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Ryan Tannehill ten. So I said, okay, let's take those
ten and who do I think are the most talented?
Now the top of us in the bottom are pretty easy,
and then it gets really tight. But here's who I
would say this, this is my opinion if you ranked
them of the ten highest paid quarterbacks just on talent
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what I've seen. Number one's in the easiest one. Patrick Mahomes.
He's perfect, great arm mobile, good kid, coachable, appreciative grinder.
There's no downside he is. I mean, he's got the
highest passer rating in NFL history. He's the youngest quarterback
to lead his team to multiple Super Bowl appearances. This
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is a once in a generation player. You know, Kansas
City will never ever get a quarterback that good. That
will never happen again. That that is Brady to New England.
It happens once. Don't try to duplicate it. You're never
gonna Tom. They're never gonna be a six round player
like Tom Brady. That is Mahalms is number one. Easily
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number two, you can argue, I'd say Aaron Rodgers, who
I think has the quickest release since Dan Marino, the
ball comes out like a seed. It's incredible. He also
led the NFL last year in virtually every statistical category.
I may have issues sometimes his personalities a little condescending
or prickly, but in the end, again, you know, lucky
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Green Bay is to go from far too Rogers, That's
not the way it works. It's like when the Colts
went Peyton Manning the luck could That's not the way
it works. Aaron's a remarkable talent. You cross your fingers.
He's had a couple of injuries, but he's got good
four or five years left. Number three in it's close,
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I'd say Russell Wilson. To me, he's just a winner.
It's not as artistic, it's not as beautiful as Aaron Rodgers.
But he's been in the league nine years. He's been
in the playoffs eight first quarterback in history with a
winning record in his first nine seasons. He's the ultimate playmaker.
Go Hawks. He's pushed back a little in recent years,
but I think if you look, Aaron Rodgers has had
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much better offensive lines on average. Russell has been running
for his life for five years. So I give you
could make an argument Russell's too because He's had to
overcome more, which is bad protection. But these three I
don't have any argument with. And four, I think it's
hard to argue. Two would be Deshaun Watson. Listen, man,
the guy led the NFL in passing yards. How they
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traded DeAndre Hopkins. The offensive line was bad outside of
left tackle. He's just a special player. I don't think
he throws a football that's as pretty as Mahomes or
as pretty as Aaron and I don't think. I mean
he's he went four and twelve. He's not Russell Wilson
in terms of he just doesn't have losing seasons. But
I think the first four this is really not really arguable.
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You're just trying to be obnoxious to argue. Now we
go to five. Now I would put in Carson Wentz
and here's why hit a bad year. But then I
start looking at that nonsense in Philadelphia and I think, okay,
who would have won there. The other thing is Chris Ballard,
the Colts. GM is one of the shrewdest guys in
the NFL. He doesn't pay big money for anybody, and
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he went and got him. That tells you Ballard's are
pretty smart. Cookie. He doesn't want to pay big money.
He's paying big money at quarterback now. By the way,
Wentz was the first quarterback in league history that had
over twenty touchdown passes seven or for your interceptions his
first three years in the league. I've never been done.
He is a raw talent. He had a bad year.
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It happened Peyton Manning, and year four had a bad year.
It happens number six. You're gonna scoff at this, but
we gotta reboot how we think about Ryan Tannehill, folks.
Not only is he a big, strong, mobile guy and
had the second highest passer rating in the NFL since
becoming a Titan second day like Mahomes right, the guy
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led the NFL last year with six fourth quarter in
overtime game winning drives. He's been a really clutch winning
quarterback and he's led his team to the playoffs. So
he wins. He's clutch. His passer rating is good. You
gotta take those Adam Gaish years out. I was never
a fan of Tannehill, never a fan. But what doesn't
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he do? He wins, he's clutch, he's mobile, he's productive.
By all accounts, he stays out of the news I'd
put him at six. Now we get tight and you're
not gonna like seven. I'd put Matt Ryan. Folks, he's
been an MVP, he's been to a Super Bowl. I
know he's not much fun to watch. I would argue that,
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and this is inches not feed, but he is. He
has the most passing yards by any quarterback through the
first decade of their career than anybody in NFL history.
Maddy Ice gives you the same numbers virtually every year.
Atlanta's problem is their defense is horrific. He ain't the issue.
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So now again it gets close. Now a lot of
people preferred Dak Deck's got one playoff win. Maddy's been
to a Super Bowl. By the way, it's not like
he's ever had quote a great coach. His coaches old
Bowl has been fired. Dan Quinn got run. The other
defensive guy he had before him got run. But Mike Smith,
I think, so it's not like he's had you know,
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he had Kyle Shanahan's coordinator. But I would put Matt
Ryan seven. Eight. I would put Dak dependable, doesn't throw
the prettiest football, but he's only got one playoff win,
so he has not been good in the last two
years against winning teams, in playoff teams. He doesn't have
a lot of playoff pelts. But I think he's a leader.
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I think he's liked. I think despite that injury, he's durable.
I think in the last couple of years he's productive.
There's just certain things. He's kind of the anti Baker Mayfield,
where I just kind of he'll say the right stuff.
You know, it doesn't matter what the controversy is, the loss.
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They just put him at the podium. He'll just say
the right thing. With Baker, I'll buy home the Browns.
I've been crossing my fingers. So the other thing about
Dak he had the second highest passer rating but any
quarterback in his first five years, so you generally get
a very stable player at quarterback. Next is Jared Goff,
who I had much higher years ago, but he's become
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a turnover machine. I don't think there's much to say here.
I think he's gonna regress because I don't think he
has the coach now, So the offensive line won't be
as good, the receivers won't be as good, the coach
won't be as good. And I like Jared Moore than
everybody else. I always said he was Matt with a
better deep ball, but over the last couple of years
he has a turnover issue that you just can't deny.
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It's gotten bad and the Rams moved off and number
ten not a shot. But I think Kirk Cousins has
a very low ceiling. I think he's a nice guy,
he's productive, but he feels like he always shrinks to
me in big games, where I don't think Dak does.
I don't think golf shrinks in big games. I saw
golf out dual Patrick Mahomes in a big game. Goffed.
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You know, he won a playoff game this past year
in Seattle, all banged up, So Goff to me doesn't
shrink in big games. He has a turnover problem. Kirk Cousins.
I feel like, if I really in a big game
need him to carry us a little, I don't think
it's capable. So I showed you the ten highest paid quarterbacks,
the ten most talented, and again every Cowboy fan's gonna
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argue on Matt Ryan and Ryan Tannehill. But at some
point I got an MVP with Ryan and a Super
Bowl with Ryan and Kirk Cousins. Last two years, he's
been great. I mean, I don't get it. I never
got it. Not a fan of the college, not a
fan of Miami. But at some point you got to
be honest about some times you have to take an
argument and reboot it and go, Okay, this is the data.
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Tannehill's data of the last two years is great. He's
great late, he starts every game, he's mobile, he gets
him to the playoffs, he beats good playoff teams. He
you know, he stays out of the news. There you go.
So again, Ideally, you wouldn't want the eighth most talented
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quarterback to be the second highest paid. That's my takeaway.
Ideally you wouldn't want that. Dack's a little overpaid. But
but that's also the market. Yeah, I mean I'm not
I'm not listening the market. Is this happens as it is.
We've freaked out with Jared Goss contracts. Yeah, and I
think everybody liked it for a year. It's funny about
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like Dax. I think das contract. I think for the
first year we're not going to talk much about it
because the defense is going to get better. It's a
bad division, and he was gonna get thirty seven this year. Anyway,
they franchise action, so I think for the first year.
I mean it's if you told me this morning, a
Dallas gonna go nine and seven, that feels right. The
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defense is gonna better, They're gonna they're gonna take their
draft this year. They're gonna go mostly defense. The fifteen
million they save on him, they're gonna go deep. They
have to be better than they were last year. And
they had backup quarterbacks for half the season. Yeah, and
by the way, it was Mike McCarthy. Nobody bought in
until about week seven, So they're gonna be a better
football I don't think anybody will talk about his deal
year one. But I also people say, well, they're getting
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a cat break in year one. Yeah, but they're not
a super Bowl team. They're they're not. They're that fifteen
million dollars doesn't change them as dramatically as it needs
to be. I mean, if you told me right now
the team's in the super Bowl bubble, Dallas doesn't even
come to mind. I mean, there's there's I don't even
put Seattle in my top eight, and I think they're
better with a super Bowl winning coach, with a better coach,
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a better general manager, and frankly at the end of
last year about our defense. So James Later is gonna
stop by Jimmy Johnson too. It's fun. Everybody's going crazy.
Yesterday it was so funny. When the story first came out.
I had just taken a killer nap. Love this, Oh
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this fantastic. You gotta live in a hotel. You gotta
take advantage of the quiet and hotel. You know, hotels
are dead Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday nights at this hotel. No,
it's people go to hotels to party, but Monday through
Thursday thinks of the Oh, it just get unbelievable. So
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I woke up from a nap and I saw the
Dack deal and I thought to myself, Oh, this is
one of those fake blue check things, because I'm like,
you gotta be kidding me, right. It felt like it
was never gonna happen, and then it happens and he
gets everything. So the first story I read, I'm like,
we got everything. That that Jerry cave done. I didn't
get everything, and you got everything. Jane Player talked about
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and the Fox Sports Up. You know, it's interesting when
Dak signed his contract, I saw a lot of people saying,
Oh my gosh, what's Josh Allen gonna make and what's
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Lamar Jackson gonna make but every player is different. So
Patrick Mahomes signed a very team friendly deal. Why my
guess is Patrick Mahomes viewed himself as an all time
talent and thought to himself, I saw what Brady did.
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I want to get to ten super Bowls and win five.
So Mahomes did not take the most money because my
belief is Patrick Mahomes views himself he has so much confidence.
And you can tell Patrick Mahomes has like inner confidence,
not fake confidence, you know what I mean. He's not
one of these guys that needs to be accepted on
the internet. But Patrick Mahomes could have taken the biggest
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deal ever, and he's like, now I'm gonna take a
team friendly deal because he viewed himself with Andy Reid
in those weapons as we're gonna do this about seven
different times. Now, Kirk Cousins, you know what you are
knows he's not Brady or Mahomes. Kirk Cousins, I'm taking everything,
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and that's how he views it. I'm taking everything on
the market, which means I can't get surrounded by as much,
which means I can't beat good teams, which is now
Kirk Cousins career. So the idea that you know, a
prime examples Lamar Jackson. Lamar's very competitive, like like like,
gets like angry. There's a rage when he struggles in
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a game. To me, Lamar Jackson's about the doubles. He
wants to win games. I could see Lamar Jackson saying,
I've got a great coach, I want to keep getting
better and I want to win games. I'm not going
to take every penny offered. I could see Lamar Jackson
doing that. He feels like, to me a winning player.
And now it's not a knock at Dak, but you know,
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Dak probably says, guy made nothing for all these years.
I'm gonna belly up to the financial bar. But the
idea that every player views it the same, every person
doesn't view anything the same, So you know it's I
could see Lamar Jackson signing a very friendly team deal
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because he's tired of hearing how he can't win in
the playoffs and he's done. I mean, he's gonna get
rich either way. Is he gonna get super rich or
buy one hundred million dollars yacht rich? Lamar's gonna get rich.
But I could see Lamar's internalizing saying, I am so
over hearing I can't win in the playoffs. I'm gonna
take a little less so I can have better players
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in playoff games. I could see that. I could totally
see that. Or I could see Josh Allen saying, Man,
Stefon Diggs, it's fun to play with Stefon Diggs. What
if I had two Stefon Diggs. I'll take a little less.
I mean seriously, I mean you Tom Brady having all
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those wide receivers. Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson may look
at that and thing, damn, could I get Mike Evans
and Chris Godwin? Just take like four million less a
year or whatever it is. You don't know how these
young guys react to this stuff, but Josh Allen literally
went from kind of okay to superstar. Why Stefon Diggs?
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And then he watches Tom and the super Bowl? Has
got the got like three Stefan Dicks. You don't think
Josh Allen goes I got great coach. If I just
take a little less, we can always be viable in
the free agent market. I absolutely think now Aaron Rodgers,
by the way, I don't blame Aaron Rodgers for taking
big money. I'll tell you why, because green Bay historically
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doesn't land free agents. So Aaron's think, of the hell,
we're not getting Stefon Diggs anyway, Like like they don't
get free agents. So he's like, we built through the draft.
Green Bay tends to be built through a draft, don't
get free agents developed players, and Aaron saying, I'm gonna
take pay cuts. We're never gonna land these free agents
anyway I want to. I don't want to go play
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in green Bay. So maybe that's how we views it.
But I don't think there's a guarantee that every player
is just gonna say, give you this, this, this, it
just it what matters to you. I mean, Dad could
very well be thinking, you guys didn't pay me. For
four years. I'm the quarterback of America's team. I was
getting into playoff games, I was winning the division, and
I was making less than talk show hosts in some cities.
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I could see him saying, I'll give you a cut
in four years, but for the next four I'm gonna
get mine. I get it. Everybody sees it different. I
don't think every player is gonna say back up the
Brinks truck. Mahomes could have. He didn't because he saw
I can win six of these. I think I'm an
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all time great. And also Kansas City. You know, every
player that's ever played in Kansas City loves Kansas City.
They get free agents, it's a great NFL town. They've
they've they've gone out my life. They've landed all sorts
of great coaches, great quarterbacks, great free agents. And maybe
Mahomes is like, hey, we have a history of landing
big stars. I'll take a little lesson get stars. Also,
maybe Mahomes looks at it and thinks to himself, he
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came into the league with all these great skilled people.
He's probably like, it was way more fun when Sammy
Watkins is my fourth target. He may have just looked
at it and said, this is fun I'd rather have.
I mean, by the way, why did they get blown
out in the super Bowl because his left tackle got hurt.
So Mahomes is looking at that thing, and I need
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left tackles. I couldn't score a touchdown in the Super Bowl.
So everybody viewed it differently. Joy with the news, no
nourt on the news. This is the herd line news. Well,
Jack finally got his long term contracts with the Cowboys,
four years, one hundred and sixty million dollars deal. To
be honest, I did not think this was going to happen.
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Like that's the point where it's just this is gonna
go on forever and he's never gonna actually sign a
long time deal with Cowboys, you know after today, Well
maybe tomorrow will do a little more. But we're we
basically we we took that sponge and we just rang
out for years. We're done with this story. Isn't it amazing?
By the end of tomorrow show, we're probably officially don't
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do you remember? Do you remember? I think it was
it would have been last year, like maybe a year
and a half ago, and you were like, I declare,
I am not talking about da duck contract anymore. It
was like, I don't know, You're probably gonna have to
but it's finally signs. And after the news broke, his
brother Tad showed a photo of them celebrating with a
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big hug and added the caption, when your little brother
gets the call, let's go Zach. Time to win the
Cowboys a super Bowl. That's an emotional picture. I love
it that is a good That is a good hug.
That's a double a double arm hugs, a tuck under
the shoulder. Who want to feel to embrace. I like
this picture and I like it, he tweeted it because
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this does put everything into perspective for the fact that
Dak is a human being. This is what he does
for a living. We all have jobs. Dream came true,
dream came true. He held strong, he did whatever like
everyone in the business was telling him, just take a deal,
take less money, and he got everything that he wanted
in the contract. I'm surprised that he was able to
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get it done with the Cowboys. I always knew Dak
was going to get paid, but I didn't know that
the Cowboys were ever going to budge because it went
on for so long. It was like, what are they
What are the cowboys really trying to do here? Like
what are they gonna do without Dad? Also, well, that's
why when the story, when I woke up from my
nap and saw the story, I thought it was fake. Yeah,
when I saw the numbers, I thought, Okay, this is
one of those fake glazer, fake chefty blue, somebody trying
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to pretend they're Jake. It tweeted a me M account
and it went viral. Yeah. I mean I thought, okay,
it's one of these people trying to be a fake
reporter because I thought he got everything the first story
I read. I'm like, he got a ring, he got out,
the years, the money to guaranteed everything. Good for him.
And I think at the Cowboys, well, there's always talk
about what they're going to do with the defense, and
you know, how do they get better? Their offensive line
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ranks twenty seven by Pro Football Focus last year twenty seven. Well,
so they're living off reputation. Think of the Dallas offensive line,
we still some of us still think of them as
that unit that was in place when Dak was a
rookie and Zeke was a rookie. Not so anymore. So
that's really the unit that needs to be focused on
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by the Dallas Cowboys this offseason. Yeah. I mean, the
best offensive line is the Colts. Cleveland's probably in my opinion,
second Green Bay is up there. Green Bay, Yeah, Green Bay.
They always have a good old line. I think New
England's old line, they're they're young and a couple of spots.
I think New Englands old line is pretty good. I
think the Raiders is underrated. I think when it's healthy,
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Kansas City with Mitchell Schwartz and Eric Fischer is really good,
but Dallas is not. I don't think Dallas is near
the top five anymore. I mean Football Focus has in
twenty seven like they're very far down one of the
worst in the league actually, and that's something that that
the Cowboys need to focus on. A lot of people
don't feel like Dak is over the top talent sit
to deserve this money, and what's happened with Zeke. It's
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very easy pay attention to the offensive line. That's why
Russell Wilson is such a unique situation. It's difficult for
quarterbacks to have successful they have a bad offensive line.
It's almost Andrew Locke Rushell Maholmes is the best quarterback
in the league and couldn't get anything done in the
Super Bowl because his offensive line wasn't intact. That's that's
what exactly what happened. That's been that. I mean, that
tells you everything. Patrick Mahomes couldn't score a touchdown on
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the Super Bowl because they were missing a good not
a superstar left tackle, a good left tackle. That's that
tells you about what you need in this league, and
to tell you that Dak does have the ability to
win and play at a high level in this league,
but he can't do it. He can't do a Russell
Wilson does, and Russell Wilson can't even do a Russell
Wilson doesn't. Russell Wilson is upset. He wants an offensive
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line too, So Carson Lentz is getting a fresh start
with the Colts Yere, who have a great offensive line.
He's already familiar with his new coach, Frank Wright from
no long time together, well from the time together in
Philly and his former teammates Jason Peters. Thinks that teaming
up with Rich again is exactly what Wentz needs to
get back to his MVP level of play. One thing
I do know about Frank, He's gonna put Carton in
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the best position. He's not gonna let him just go
out there have bad mechanics are just go out there
and throw bad balls. So I think Plank gonna bring
the best out of Carson because I've seen it when
he's on the Super Bowl run. You know them two
that was great together, and that's the fitful casting. I
think he gonna get back to his MT Tweens housebook
of play. You weren't You and I both shocked how
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good Philip Rivers was last year. Yes, not to me.
So my takeaway as Philip Rivers, who was so slow
he quit, he retired. He loves football, He's like, okay,
I'm done one eleven and five. I mean so, between
Rich and that offensive line, it is mystifying to me
how many people are like, oh, I don't know if
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it's gonna work. It's gonna I think it's going to work. Hi,
how much? How much? And I think it's on. I
think it's on Carson Wentz. All the pressures on Carson Wentz.
You have everything that you need now to be successful.
It's not a dysfunctional situation. You have Frank Wright, you're
comfortable with him. You have a great offensive line. I
just this idea that Carson. No one has ever gotten
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more credit for winning an MVP that they didn't win,
like everyone harkens back to this season, like Carson Wentz
was the runaway MVP through thirteen games, but Tom Brady
won the MVP that season. His numbers were better through
thirteen games, and Carson Wentz in every statistical category, not
every statistical category, but like to had better completion presentage,
more yards. He didn't have as many touchdowns twenty seven
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touchdowns of six interceptions, and a higher pass rating through
thirteen games tom Brady did. So this this like elevation
of Carson Wentz too, like as if he won the
MVP he did not. He did not. Tom Brady won
it and had better numbers through thirteen games. And I
think that this is the moment that Carson Wentz has
to prove that he is, like you just listed, he's
more talented than these other guys than Dak and Matt
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Ryan and Kirk Cousins and Ryan Tannehill. Go do it, y.
I want to see what happens now. Yeah, I mean,
he had a really bad year. I'm giving him a
chaos pass. But listen, there's no excuses. I mean that
that offense has a star back now, Jonathan Taylor, great
old line wide receivers. Yeah, Michael Pittman's end being a star.
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Maybe they need a tight end. But if you can't
and that divisions, Kookie, it's not like it's not a
winnable division. I don't have to face Rogers or Mahomes.
Nobody besides Tampa Bay in Kansas City has pretty much everything. Yeah,
those two teams well, and Tampa Bay might not this
year because they have a lot of free agents to sign.
So Joe Burrow looked great in his rookie year before
suffering a season ending knee injury in Week eleven. The
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Bengals are very confidence they have their franchise quarterback, as
they should be, and Director of player Personnel Duke Tobin
is working to bring in players to support Burrow going forward.
He said, I think we have one of the premier
best young quarterbacks in the game, and we're going to
do everything we can to build around him. It's going
to start with him. I liked their receivers. I'd go
old line again. They have the fifth pick in the
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draft and they have forty one million dollars in calf space,
which is the fifth most in the NFL. So Jonah
Williams is a good old alignment. Go get. I would
go get the kid from Northwestern Slater that can um.
Why am I forgetting his name for Shawn Slater. He
can do guard or tackle, so I and to me,
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this league isn't complicated. Find a quarterback, protect quarterback. Draft
guys who can get their quarterback, so I would go
back to the old line. I liked their receivers. Actually,
I thought, you really like the Bengals. Next year, for
the first time in my life, somebody is gonna shock
us in the league. Year every year it happens. Okay,
you tell me the team. I don't know. I don't
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know that. I'm ready to dip my toe in the
Bengals water. I love Joe Burrow, Love Joe Burrow. Before
the draft, team Joe Borrow one hundred percent. Okay, they
had the fifth pick in the draft. They had the
thirtieth ranked offensive line according to Pro Football Focus last year,
and he was sacked thirty two times, at the third
most in the NFL through Week eleven. So obviously the
offensive line is the number one priority for the Cincinnati Bengals.
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Sign a veteran offensive lineman that's available drafts. That is
your should be your focus, because you are still a
few years away from actually contending. The only reason why
I have hesitation, other than all the work had to
do on offensive line, is that division is so tough.
Baker Mayfield another year with Kevin Savansky bringing back essentially
the same team. I don't know what the Steelers are
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going to do. I don't have a lot of confidence
in them, but they did win the division last year
with Ben Roethlisberger. So and you have the Ravens. Like so,
I look at the division first when I start talking
about what team is going to surprise us? And that's
the only thing that gives you. That's gonna be one
of those dorky things on Twitter where you have those polls.
I want to do that this week, which you think
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somebody's gonna shock this. Okay, So who's it gonna be? Well, okay,
so what's what's shocked? They shot make the playoffs last
year and they went this year? Yeah, like like so,
I think Arizona, but they were eight and eight if
they wanted, but they didn't make playoffs. That doesn't feel shocking.
That feels improving. Okay, So it's gotta be that's your
home tomorrow. Okay. Who's Cincinnati? Is my early leader in
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the Oh my god, they made the playoffs. No, you
think it the Vengs gonna make the playoffs? I think
if they show up the offensive line. When I watched
that shootout with Cleveland, I sat there and I was like,
Holy crap, they just gotta protect this kid. Everybody like,
everybody's like, oh Cleveland won peoplan should they got wave
our players. When I watched that shootout against I sat
and watched that whole thing. I was just like, oh
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my god. I mean, by the way they blew out Tennessee.
They had these moments last year. You were like, they
had moments. They don't have any players. How are they
doing this. I want to see what they do in
the off season because they do have a lot of
cap space. If they're aggressive and bring in some a
couple veterans, I gotta think about it. Let me let
me give me some Harwark time. Joy with the news.
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Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by third line.
It is interesting. There were two stories yesterday in the
last couple of days that I think have changed the
top of the draft. One is Jalen Hurts, the owner
for the Eagle, said he's our guy. So Philadelphia has
not taken a quarterback at six. That's the right move
in my opinion. A lot of people had them taken
a quarterback. They'll take a receiver. The second thing is
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Dak's contract to me, Dallas now has to go defense
because they got too much money on offense. You don't
you don't like you get into a problem in this
league when you got like Cleveland's got all their money
on offense. Cleveland's defense thinks you want to balance it out, right, Dallas.
Remember when Russell Wilson signed that big deal in Seattle,
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Seattle suddenly started trading down and getting more picks. When
Aaron Rodgers signed that big deal in Green Bay, they
went and got more picks. Well, Jerry moved down in
the draft is not his history. He doesn't like moving down.
He wants to be up top of the draft or
make a splash. But Dallas needs defense. Dak now that
means Amaris getting paid tyron Zach Martin Zeke Amari. That
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is a lot. You don't want to be Cleveland where
you're in shootouts every week. If I'm Dallas, I that
tenth pick is at ten, I would consider trading down.
The other thing that benefits Dallas The top ten to
fifteen picks in this draft are mostly offensive stars. It's
a great quarterback draft or receiver draft, and an offensive
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line draft. So Dallas where this draft has good defensive
players late, first, second, and third, you can get great
defensive players. The stars of this draft are all on offense. Okay,
Dallas is at ten. They can get who they want
on defense at twenty and below. Then that's when you
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get into the second, third, fourth, best corner, second best linebacker, third,
fourth best edge rousher. That's what Dallas needs. So to me,
I look at this and I think Jalen Hurt story
and Dax Contract story. I'm Dallas what you need right now.
You need to get better and inexpensive on defense. You
gotta get better on that side of the ball. So
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the NFL Network cover the Cowboys for a long time
has the Boys and Girls podcast? iHeartRadio got about eight
minutes here. I want to get to it with Jane
Slayer covering the Cowboys. All right, let's I was taking
a nap. I woke up. I went to my phone
and thought, okay, this is fake. Dak got everything you
wanted everything, So how did it come together? You just
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tell me how did it come together? You know, I
think we're gonna have more defendive answers to whow and
Hello CHOI, Hello Colin when Dak Prescott is actually supposed
to and is expected to have a press conference tomorrow.
I've still got questions, quite frankly, you know, I'd reported
last week that the tone felt better this year. The
two sides were actually talking, which was meaningful, and it
was encouraging that he was rehabbing nearly every single day
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at the facility, So it couldn't have been that bad.
You know, if you're worried about running into your owners
that you feel are so disrespectful or are going to
tag you for another year you can rehab other places.
So that felt meaningful. Yeah, and then we got to Monday.
I checked in a couple of times. Still nothing got done,
but I was told this was very much Stephen heavily
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involved with Todd France trying to get this thing done.
Jerry Jones didn't get involved at one point to what extent,
I don't know. But this thing finally got wrapped around
the four o'clock hour. So that's how quick it happened.
So you know, there was a Russell Wilson insert here
a couple of days ago. Did that? Did you buy
any of that stuff? Well? It was so funny that
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everybody ran with it. Of course it's the off season.
Of course, it's reported that Russell would entertain a trade
to Dallas. There was never anything meaningful about that, And
when I reached out to my people, they considered it laughable.
And that was because they've been all in on trying
to get Dak Prescott here. They wouldn't have used the
costly exclusive tag last year. They wouldn't have been moving
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towards a tag if they couldn't get this done. This
was their guy. Now, I think that they realized that
they had been doing this staredown contest with Todd France.
And I don't know this for a fact, but I
think just the psychology of it all. Jerry Joe, which
has been a guy that's always bet on himself, and
I've got to think he respected the way that Dak
Prescott and only bet on himself, but continued to do
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things the right way. He didn't hold out. He you know,
he showed up to the facility with the exception of
not participating in an OTA's virtual at the time, he
still had guys working out on his football field getting
ready for the football season. And you got the sense
that Dak Prescott wanted to be part of the Cowboys.
The Cowboys have learned over the years how hard it
is to find a franchise quarterback. I've covered this team
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long enough to you can go down the list of
any test of ardis the Kyle Orton's, the Brandon Whedon's.
I mean, it's an extensive one. And then we saw
this year what happened. You know, we had sort of
talked about this notion of what would the Cowboys be
if Andy Dalton was under center. When we saw that
it didn't work, we also thought the Cowboys looked like
with Benda Nucci and Garrett Gilbert, and so look at
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just some of the tweets from the players, looked the
way the locker room responded when this deal got done.
There was a reason why Tony Romo was not able
to compete for his job back Dak's rookie season. This
fourth round compensatory pick was so impressive, not only to
the Jones family, but his performance on the football field
and his team around him and his would GM and
another agent kind of pointed out to me, Yeah, they
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both could have gambled on the open market next year
because that tag at fifty four point three was ridiculous.
The Cowboys are going to always overvalue their players. Now
there will be a team that would likely talk themselves
into whatever Dak was asking for. But ultimately these two
wanted to make it work. I'm glad that they were
able to get themselves a couples therapy. And you know,
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the kid is no longer being hurt by some of
the media out there accusing him of being greedy. He
just wanted some respect and he wanted to get paid,
and that's what happened here. Does it change Dallas's free
agent plans or draft plans? Not necessarily. Now. It is
a good question, because as I was looking to see
how serious they were about getting this thing done, I
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had the tag deadline. I did reach out to a
few agents of players to see if they've pulled the lever,
In other words, had they restructured deals that had not happened.
In fact, they hadn't even really had any meaningful free
agency meetings. I was told they were all in on
getting this Dak deal done. Now, will they be frugal shoppers?
Will they be looking for guys that they can get
on Veederan minimums? Absolutely? You know they always say or
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do in talent evaluation three sixty five seven days a year,
and they will do that. But they aren't gonna have
a lot of money to do some meaningful spending. But
I do think they'll have enough to leave at least
give you some depth at certain positions and get you
some veterans in the locker room. But I don't think
you're going to see them make us splashing. Quite frankly,
they really haven't made a splash in free agency since
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Brandon car And then if you want to consider Maury
Cooper mid season when they went out and got a
wide receiver and gave up a one pick, they just
they really haven't gambled on free agents in recent years. Yeah,
it's interesting. How is it about a minute and left?
Minute too left? How is it landing? I mean, have
you listen to talk radio in Dallas or if you
can connect with fans, how is the contract landing deck
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energizes this fan base? I mean, I to your point,
I cover this team. I hear from a lot of
Cowboys Twitter. Cowboys Twitter is absurd. As you know, when
you make comments about Dat Prescott in question whether he's
an elite quarterback, I'm sure you hear it. No, Daker
no different than your criticism a Baker Mayfield. He is
a lightning rod here. And of course there's still what
we call the Romo camp that the people that feel
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like Romo should have been the quarterback, he should have
not been able to walk away from this team and
they should have competed. But a lot of people see
who Dak is both on and off the field. Is
the same guy. The way that he finds ways to
win when in the past we've seen quarterbacks find ways
to lose. I think this is good for everyone. And
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when I've talked to people both around the facility and
of course the fans, I think we're all just tired
of this storyline. It was his market value. Just pay
the guy, let's move on. I think it helps the
team sentiment. I think it helps the attitude and to
your point, and allows them to now'll start putting some
pieces around Dak in order for them to be successful.
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And quite frankly, this is the best way for Mike
McCarthy to gauge whether he's going to be a successful
coach in Dallas or not, because he's sure had to
weather a lot of challenges as it related to the
offensive line and then going through four quarterbacks last year
in his first season with COVID. All right, Jane Slater,
NFL and NET, we're great, seeing you. A nice job
on this. Always good seeing you guys. Thanks coming me on. Yeah, yeah,
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it's it's. This is a fascinating time because the salary
caps coming down. That doesn't happen much in the NFL.
It'll bounce back up the following year. It's going to
be a lot of good players on the market, so
you will be able to do some value shopping. Carlos
Dunlap yesterday, let go buy Seattle. You know, he was
just a cap casualty. I've talked to a couple of
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people in the NFL and they're like, you're you're not
gonna believe what you're going to see in the next
two or three weeks. You're gonna see like really good
players available. So it doesn't happen very often in the
National Football League where they come down a little bit.
In my lifetime, it's gotten more popular, more lucrative. Now
you got the gambling money in there, there's gonna be
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some players out there. If you have to upgrade your defense,
you'll you'll you'll you'll have opportunities to and the players,
let's be honest, won't have a ton of leverage because
teams won't have a ton of money. There are some
teams that have. Washington's got thirty seven million dollars, the
Bengals have forty one. Most most of the teams with
cap space are bad. The Jacksonville Washington's good and it
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has cap space jets, So keep your eye in Washington.
I'm just really fascinated. I'll say it again, that's a
good team. Super Bowl Coach Championship defense five and one
with Alex Smith gave the Buccaneers a fight with Taylor
Hennike Heineke's like, what are they gonna do? I don't know.
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